0:00Whatever's holding you back, HIMSS has a real plan for it.
0:03Be confident. Be HIMSS. He's just gonna go the distance.
0:06Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.
0:10What's up everybody? Welcome to the show, Sunday Night Recap of Week 8.
0:14Yeah! Okay, here's the first question for you as we welcome you to Fantasy Football today, and it is presented by HIMSS.
0:20Whatever is holding you back, HIMSS has a real plan for it.
0:24Be confident. Be HIMSS. The Bengals were HIM. Of the top five...
0:28What? Don't... You can't say the Bengals were HIM when they were 14-point favorites and they go to overtime to beat the Titans.
0:35Dude, I'm talking fantasy here! Of the top five super flex options this week, or like any player, six point per passing,
0:42touchdown, PPR, three of them are Bengals. One, Burrow.
0:45Two, Higgins. Five, Chase. Who are the other two in the top five?
0:49Top five best players. Three of them are Bengals.
0:51Who are the other two this week? Oh, it's the names that we knew would be...
0:56Cousins? Fantasy options. Cousins is one. There's one. And Tyler Algier was the other.
1:01I feel like you cheated. It was a little too quick.
1:04I do have it open, yes. I like the honesty.
1:07Yeah, Tyler Algier. Yeah, I didn't know it was a game.
1:10Sorry. That is okay. Tyler Algier is rostered in 45% of leagues.
1:14He started in 8% of leagues. And anyway, welcome to the show and let's get going here.
1:19A couple of amazing stats. The Arizona Cardinals are 5-0 at Dallas' AT&T Stadium.
1:24I don't remember the other four wins, but this had to be the most improbable, incredible win for the Arizona Cardinals.
1:30Gardner! Heath's got to be happy. Oh yeah! Yeah!
1:33There you go. Like literally the only positive thing that happened today, but it's fantastic that we get reminded that Gardner Minshew is an NFL starting quarterback.
1:41Maybe he might... Most added player in Superflex League is coming up.
1:45Can the Ravens please trade for him? They might trade for Bursette.
1:49Anyone. Anyone. And do we have any information on it?
1:52I know Shane Steichen said they're going to evaluate everything in Indianapolis.
1:56Did we get anything post-game about Bursette versus... Not ready to make an announcement.
2:00Oh, if they start Bursette, they're idiots. Yeah. Yeah.
2:03Okay. Well, then yes, of course, we have to figure out who the Ravens quarterback is going to be because Lamar Jackson is going to have surgery.
2:11That's who the Ravens quarterback is. Not on the roster would be my guess.
2:15Yeah. Congratulations on avoiding having to squelch on a bit.
2:18Would you like me to offer you an out?
2:21I don't need any outs. I'm still winning. You are.
2:24After a zero, that is so sad that you're still winning.
2:28Heath, I texted Adam this afternoon. Oh. I said, that zero is going to really help you.
2:33And his reply was, how do you say his name?
2:36Fignano? Yes. Fignano, yeah. Fignano for president. If I hadn't voted already, I would have written him in for governor of New York.
2:43Anyway, biggest winner other than me. Who wants it?
2:46Raise your hand if you want to give the biggest winner today.
2:50I don't know. Dave's got a good one. Okay.
2:52Go ahead, Dave. I mean, it just, it's Jonah Coleman.
2:56It's gotta be him. He's the one who is, he led the Broncos backfield in the second half.
3:01Jake Dobbins had one snap in the second half of their game against Kansas City, but he, he, he looked great as a pass catcher.
3:09He had that big play that set up the game winning touchdown.
3:13He's clearly their best running back. We kind of hinted at that going into this week.
3:17We just didn't know how big his role would be.
3:21And the first domino to fall was RJ Harvey not playing.
3:24And then I still thought, well, you know, he doesn't have a lot of experience playing third down.
3:30So maybe Jake Dobbins will still have that role.
3:32Nope. Didn't happen. Broncos seem done with JK Dobbins and that Jonah Coleman has taken over as their main guy.
3:38Pretty easy winner and a pretty easy start moving forward.
3:42Yeah. And some great matchups, Carolina next week, then a by two games against the Raiders, uh, before it's all said and done.
3:49The jets, Miami's in there. Yeah. Miami's run defense is okay, but it's not one you're avoiding.
3:54There's some, some tough matchups, but overall it's a good schedule for Coleman.
3:58It was started in 44% of leagues. Uh, who's the biggest loser today?
4:02James Zay flowers. Uh, they flowers and absolutely terrible.
4:05Like we go from yay. Lamar is back to, Oh no, you don't even get the back.
4:10And guess what? Guess what? You get three days until your next game against Jacksonville.
4:15Um, Zay flowers goes from, I think a top five wide receiver in all of our rankings this week to probably not a starter next week.
4:23We're going to need that one. That one was better.
4:26That or the new one. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
4:29Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
4:31Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Sam is trying to keep his job.
4:35He's not going to replay that on air again, not to play on air, but Dave needs to hear it.
4:42Yeah. I think, uh, one of the stories, he was talking about how much he loves butterfingers and he said, I bleep in love butterfingers.
4:49Oh gosh. Anything further from the truth. He said exactly what I just said, except it was butter instead of butker.
4:56Yeah. Uh, any who, um, you know what? Maybe a storyline, a headline from today is, you know, rookie wide receivers on the rise with Mike Washington jr.
5:04And Jonah Coleman. And those are running backs. Uh, sorry.
5:07And running, running backs on the rise. Rookie wide receivers were horrible today.
5:12Dude. We said this this week, it's two games and then they fall off a cliff.
5:16Yep. I mean, Omar Cooper jr. Didn't even get close to the cliff.
5:20Like he wasn't even in the area of the cliff that he, it just, you know, zero targets today for him.
5:27He just woke up at the bottom of the cliff.
5:30Yeah. Like in the Canyon or Valley or whatever.
5:33Apparently whatever, uh, Gino and, and, uh, Garrett Wilson talked about in the shower was like, Hey, Adonis may have been in the conversation.
5:40So what, what happened? I was, that was one game that I had on.
5:45One thing they were doing in that game was targeting Eric Stokes of the Raiders.
5:49I think he came in as an injury replacement and they just went after him.
5:54And I'm assuming he didn't really line up on Omar Cooper jr.
5:58Cause you know, Cooper's in the slot a lot.
6:00So I think that we probably, we can watch the tape and find out, but I think that's what happened there.
6:07One of the reasons for it, but my gosh, man, zero targets, uh, for Omar Cooper jr.
6:12And yeah, I asked people on Twitter, who should I start?
6:15Lad McConkie or Omar Cooper jr. And two thirds of you said Omar Cooper jr.
6:20So, uh, not so easy, is it? Okay. Anyway, uh, Tuesday, we have something really exciting for you.
6:26An AMA on the bleacher. Let me just hold on before I screw up this.
6:30Let me, let me, uh, before I screw this up.
6:33I already did turn on fantasy, turn on your fantasy alerts on the bleacher report app.
6:38Cause at 11 a.m. Eastern we are doing me, Dave and Jamie Heath.
6:42I think we're going to get you on for a different one, but I know you have FFT dynasty on Tuesdays.
6:49We are doing an AMA at 11 a.m. Eastern on the bleacher report app.
6:53So turn on your fantasy alerts. This taking over.
6:56I'm really excited for this. This is going to be super cool.
7:00It's going to be waiver wire. Q and a, I assume AMA.
7:03Um, we can, I think waiver wire. I started doing my notes already.
7:07Yeah, it's right. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's a fun one for sure.
7:12I mean, I don't know which running back to what's Bam Knights injury by the way, concussion.
7:17Head. Yeah. Because it is worth mentioning that he absolutely dominated the snaps after Jeremiah loves injury and before his injury.
7:23Like Tyler Algier did basically nothing barely played, uh, before the, before Bam Knight left just before halftime.
7:29Now the snap counts will change overnight. So maybe that looks different when they review it.
7:34But from what I saw, it was all Jeremiah love in the first quarter.
7:38It was all Bam Knight in the second quarter.
7:41And then Tyler Algier had a really good game in the second half.
7:45I can tell you right, right now. Cause it ties in is the, uh, probably the number one running back is going
7:52to be the same guy I mentioned last week too.
7:55McGowan. McGowan. Oh my God. It's Dallas this week and they're probably trading Taylor.
7:59I wanted to see, you know what? Now that we're on that subject, I forgot to look up the usage after they
8:06pulled Taylor of, uh, Giddens and McGowan. I gotcha.
8:09Yeah. Cause you know, they had about the same amount of carries six for Giddens five for McGowan.
8:14Don't know if we learn anything from that, but it could be a little bit of a thorn in the side.
8:21Uh, all right. Any who, let me get to the news and notes.
8:25Lamar Jackson thumb injury on his first pass attempts could be out for the season.
8:30We'll see. He's definitely going to be on IR.
8:32He's going to need surgery. Tyler Huntry. Tyler Huntley has turf toe and they do have a, they have the Thursday game Heath.
8:39Yep. They do against Jacksonville. Um, Gardner Minshew replaced Brissett and Anthony Richardson replaced Daniel Jones.
8:44Jeremiah love left in the second quarter with an ankle injury is on a night left with a head injury later in the second quarter.
8:52James cook left briefly, but he came back. Braylon Allen limped off in the fourth quarter.
8:57I think he's fine. I haven't heard anything about that.
9:00What do you guys think is going to happen with the jets running backs at this point?
9:05And I'm sorry to ask this every week, but my gosh, uh, Heath Braylon Allen couldn't be playing much better right now.
9:12Yeah, I think it will be a heavy split.
9:15Well, first off, we'll see if Braylon Allen's on the jets the next time they play football.
9:20Um, but assuming that he is, I think it'll be a heavy split on rushing downs and Brice will be utilized heavily on passing downs.
9:28And we may have a situation where Braylon Allen and Brice Hall are both RB twos or high end flexes.
9:34And I do want to point out cause I, you know, I was going to wait to get to the game before
9:41we talked about this, but Braylon Allen credit to him.
9:44He's been, you know, one of the best waiver wire pickups in fantasy this year.
9:49I don't know what his roster percentage was in week four when after all got hurt, but you know, three of the
9:56last four games, more than 18 fantasy points. He's really had a great schedule.
10:00Yeah. Um, Chicago, that was the game. You know, he didn't have that good of a game, but they ran 32 plays or something.
10:07Cleveland is a bad run defense. New England's not that good.
10:11Miami's not that good of a run defense. And then today the Raiders, Miami's okay.
10:15Um, it's, they get a lot of tougher run defenses going forward, but they get teams that give up a lot of fantasy points to running back.
10:24So I don't really know what to make of that.
10:27Um, so like you look at the next four opponents for the jets are 31st, 23rd, 29th and 24th against running backs,
10:34but just against the run, they're not that bad.
10:36All right. A topic for another show. Sorry. Uh, let's see DJ Moore.
10:40DJ Moore did leave with an injury. I haven't seen it multiple, multiple times.
10:45Yeah. He downplayed it after the game. So. Okay.
10:47Uh, Zachariah branch left with a hamstring injury. Josh Palmer.
10:51I should have mentioned that with DJ more Josh Palmer left in the first quarter and did not come back.
10:57Caleb Douglas came back in the game after leaving with an injury.
11:00Kendrick born left in the first half with an ankle injury.
11:04Michael Wilson left briefly. He came back and really was not having a good game.
11:08He had about 10 fantasy points until the last drive of the game.
11:12And then he ends up as one of the best wide receivers this week.
11:17They're at Seattle, then the Rams, then the chiefs in their next three games, Jake Ferguson, ankle, uh, Hunter Henry didn't make Hunter Henry history.
11:25Jamie. No, very disappointing. He was off to a good start to three for 30 early in the game.
11:30With an injury and Arizona. La la la la la their left tackle.
11:34Jaden Williams left with a knee injury. Detroit Detroit.
11:37Detroit. Some as they say, and white men can't jump.
11:40Sometimes when you win, you really lose their center left in the first half and on defense.
11:46Holy cow. Did the lions get beat up? Um, and they get Miami.
11:50Did we get an update on Jack Campbell? Uh, wrestling at the hospital.
11:54Still being evaluated. We'll update in the morning was what the lines.
11:57Okay. And the Jaguars also got really beat up in this game.
12:01Their right guard, Ezra Cleveland left and they lost two defensive tackle or two defensive linemen, Javon Walker and their, uh, their
12:08big nose tackle probably for the season, at least longterm.
12:11Uh, that is, uh, Davon Hamilton left with a knee injury.
12:14That's a big one for them. Yeah. Figurally. And, you know, and for Tony Pollard, we're going to talk about as a winner.
12:21Heath, he's one of your winners. He's got two games against the Jaguars in his next four or three games, but the
12:28schedule besides those two games is fan. Tastic. And the Jaguars just lost probably their best run stuffers.
12:34So they're, uh, they're in the market for a defensive lineman, whether it's a pass rusher or a interior lineman or both,
12:41uh, in the case of Derek Brown, who's a guy that they're rumored to be looking at.
12:46So they're going to probably be very active at the deadline in the next week.
12:50All right. Uh, we'll give you a Tennessee got really beat up on defense too, and they're going into their by let's
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13:18Heath, you got Tony Pollard. You also have Harold Fannin Jr.
13:21It's just like a head scratcher here. Started in 53% of leagues, two big games in a row for Harold Fannin Jr.
13:28I think it's hard to know, like what is the head scratcher?
13:32The way the Browns have employed Harold Fannin for half of this season or the way they used him in this game.
13:39I like the way they used him in this game.
13:42He's awesome. Um, and it was good to see them recognize that.
13:45I don't, I think he's kind of in that position right now where people are going to both be scared about starting
13:52him and be scared about sitting him, but he's probably a top 12 wide or tight end most weeks.
13:58And Tony Pollard's just awesome. Five touchdowns in his last two games.
14:02Anytime that this offense can look anything close to competent, Tony Pollard's really good.
14:06I don't know. They'll be able to do that against Jacksonville after their buy.
14:10I don't know for sure that Tony Pollard will be on the Titans, but he's really good.
14:16So if he gets traded, that's great. If he doesn't, the Jacksonville games might be bad, but besides those games, you've got Dallas, Washington, Detroit Colts, Raiders, Steelers.
14:24Heath, who would you rather have rest of season?
14:27Tony Pollard or Zay Flowers? Uh, Zay Flowers. They're going to, they're going to go get a quarterback.
14:33Okay. Dave, he was a winner for you last week.
14:36And I was like, can I sell high on Tony Pollard?
14:39You know, and I don't know. I kind of, I still wonder if I should feel that way.
14:45Cause I just don't want to, I don't want to believe in the Titans offense, but what do you think about Pollard?
14:52I think you should at least hold onto him through the NFL trade deadline and knowing that he could end up on
14:58a better team where he could get a workload that we've seen for the last couple of weeks with better offensive linemen, better offense around them, better opportunity.
15:07I, I think that you'll hold onto him for that reason specifically.
15:11And then if the trade at the NFL trade deadline passes and he's still on the Titans, okay, then you could probably make a move.
15:18You won't be able to get quite as much cause it's not as sexy as, you know, if he's on the Broncos
15:25and I don't even know if the Broncos are in the market for a running back anymore, but you get my point anywhere is sexier than Tennessee.
15:34The point I want to make on the Titans is they only have one game in their last three, seven, one game in their last seven.
15:42That's been a blowout. Everything else has been a one score game.
15:45So they've been competitive despite all the problems with their defense and trading away, Jeffrey Simmons and cam war, not playing great.
15:52They're finding ways to stay competitive. And that's usually a good thing for Tony Pollard.
15:57That's a good point. I feel like both, like the Cardinals usually are competitive.
16:01The dolphins usually competitive. The team that isn't is the chargers.
16:05Yeah. And probably the Colts now. Yeah. The Colts are going to join them.
16:09Yeah. With the chargers. It's a strike against McGowan and DJ Giddens.
16:13So Jamie's got a couple of winners. Dave's got a couple of winners.
16:17We've got to take a little break when we come back.
16:20Rishi Rice and DJ Moore for Jamie, TJ Hawkinson and the aforementioned Jonah Coleman for Dave.
16:25And then we'll get to our losers after this.
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17:21Okay, Jamie, was she rice a winner for you?
17:24And he had a second touchdown call back at the end of the game on a false star penalty that basically decided the game and DJ more.
17:33Or I will, I'll dispute it a little bit with DJ more, but go ahead with Rasheed rice.
17:38I'm curious how you're going to dispute DJ more as a winner, but, um, I think the case for rice is, uh,
17:45I was very skeptical of him today. I think we all kind of were, you know, a little concerned about starting him
17:52and right from the get go, you know, really heavily involved in the offense.
17:56And like you said, should have had second touchdown there on the false start at the end.
18:01That could have won the game for the chiefs, but this was not an easy matchup.
18:06He has a terrible history against Denver. And I think if he's healthy and you see how much he means to Patrick
18:13Mahomes and the chiefs, uh, my homes was, was awesome today as well, you know, at least fantasy wise.
18:19So I'm pretty confident that I'm going to start Rasheed rice most weeks going forward, the leagues that I have him.
18:25And he's going to be at least the number two receiver, if not borderline number one guy, uh, as we see here.
18:32And in the case of DJ more, look, he, uh, big play down the field, um, to kind of get the, the
18:39passing game going a little bit, caught the touchdown.
18:42They tried to give him the touchdown on that drive when he caught the, I forget how long it was, but, I
18:49think is just a huge weapon for Josh Allen.
18:51And again, we've seen him when he's on the field, he's been very productive and important for this bill's offense.
18:58I think that's going to continue. So just hope he's healthy.
19:0149 yarder. Yeah, no, I think my only dispute was like, I was got a little lucky with the, the 49 yard or even a great catch.
19:09And, and then I think Dalton Kincaid dropped a touchdown.
19:12I mean, he dropped the ball on the play before DJ more's touchdown.
19:16I think he would have scored on it. Would have been first and goal from maybe two, if not.
19:22And then the next play, DJ more got a touchdown.
19:25So I think we've got a little lucky there.
19:28The Dalton Kincaid is better with DJ more theory is, is gaining steam.
19:32Yeah. Yeah. Could be. All right. Unfortunately is just non-existent.
19:35I just, I think I would have liked to see a little bit more of a target share for, for DJ more, but I'm not going to nitpick.
19:44It was 21% target share. You'd like for like a true number one receiver.
19:48You'd like that to be closer to 25 or higher, but that's okay.
19:52It's one game. He's had two games this year with a massive target share.
19:57So it's nice to have him back. It's nice to have him back.
20:01And, you know, Minnesota, this upcoming week, that kind of sucks.
20:04But, um, you know, other than that, it's all good.
20:07Well, I know he does have a tough schedule.
20:10I can't, I can't deny that. Like he's got the chiefs.
20:13He's got the Patriots, got the Vikings. He's got the bears who've been great against number one receivers.
20:19He's got the Broncos in the playoffs. He's got Miami twice.
20:22I think I mentioned this maybe on Wednesday, but all the Patriots just blew that Miami myth out of the water today.
20:29No, they didn't pop Douglas, big game. Yeah. Three targets.
20:32That's the whole point. Like there's been two wide receivers, more than five targets or more than six targets against the dolphins all year.
20:40It's the first time that two receivers scored touchdowns against the dolphins happened today.
20:44You know, what else he's got is Josh Allen.
20:47And as long as he's got him, I think that keeps him in play and fantasy.
20:52And sure. You could, you could certainly make a case that DJ more is a sell high candidate right now because another
20:58injury that we might have to worry about coming off a strong game when he's been on the field, he's been productive, but the schedule stuff.
21:06So you can, you can try and sell. All right, Dave, you got TJ Hawkinson and Jonah Coleman.
21:12We talked about Coleman. How about Hawkinson? 13 or more PPR points in three of his past four games, the game.
21:18He didn't do it in. He got concussed. So you kind of have to take that one away.
21:24It seems like he's Kyler's guy. Won a bunch of times on seam routes.
21:28So I don't know how many throws Kyler has down pat, but that's one he's got.
21:33And so I don't love the schedule moving forward for Hawkinson.
21:37He's got teams that have been good against tight ends, the Packers, the Niners, the Patriots, and then some other teams in
21:44the near future that are just okay. Falcons, Panthers, and bills.
21:47But I just like the fact that he and Kyler seem to have a connection going.
21:52And so as, as tight ends go, he should at least be in the conversation as a starter.
21:57And even though he doesn't always get six plus targets, I think he can certainly find games where he'll get them.
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22:37Heath, speaking of pulse pounding, what is your heart rate during a game like the Chiefs game?
22:43Like, you know, moments like that. Oh, this time of year, it's pretty low.
22:47Like it's November. Okay. It wasn't like this was, if, if the Chiefs had been in the Broncos position, it probably would have been a little higher.
22:55Yeah. But yeah, it was pretty low. Cause I get a little worried about myself in these situations.
23:01Like I am, I can feel my heart beating out of my chest when I'm watching.
23:06No, the nice thing about the whoop is that I've been able to, uh, express to my family members, like, see when you stressed me out.
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23:21Uh, all right. Losers, Dave, Omar Cooper, Jr. No catches, no targets.
23:24DK Metcalf. Of course he had a bad drop.
23:27That would have been a big gain, but even with that, it wouldn't have been that good of a game.
23:33One catch for four yards on six targets against Cleveland.
23:36And the Steelers offense is kind of weird these days, but there's six and two.
23:41Um, okay. Talk about Cooper and Metcalf. Not a lot to say about Cooper just stinks that he didn't have any targets.
23:48This was a game we already talked about a little bit where I and I Mitchell just ended up wrecking the Raiders downfield.
23:55Maybe it's just the byproduct of playing the Raiders and knowing that their pass rush, not dominant.
24:00Their pass defense hasn't been good all year long.
24:03And Mitchell was able to take advantage. And he had some like near catches slash drops along the way before he finished
24:10with over 140 yards and a touchdown. Garrett Wilson had his squeaky wheel game with 12 targets.
24:15I'm not sure what we do with Omar Cooper moving forward.
24:18And that's part of the problem. It's why he's kind of a loser here.
24:23And, uh, DK at six targets, one catch this, the Steelers look like they're much more of a running team.
24:29Rogers a dot on Sunday was 6.4 yards. That's his highest in four games.
24:33And it just doesn't feel like the downfield passing game is even needed right now from Pittsburgh.
24:38So I, I, that's really the, the best way for Metcalf can, to contribute to this team because it really isn't him a ton in the red zone.
24:47And it's really not him. Otherwise on shorter throws Steelers passing offense, just doesn't seem like it's where it was a month ago.
24:54Yeah. I think their, their pass rate has been lower.
24:57You look at three of their last four games, Rogers has had 31, 30, and 25 pass attempts.
25:03Those games have been against the Colts, the saints, and, uh, and today against the Browns, I guess maybe if you could
25:10hope they start playing better offenses, they'll have to throw more.
25:13So after their buy at Cincinnati could be one Philadelphia, no Denver, no Houston, maybe Jacksonville.
25:18Yes. Baltimore, probably not. It's kind of mixed, but I think mostly, no, I think mostly kind of not great offenses there.
25:25And now fantasy managers are going to have some tough decisions to make about what they do.
25:30I think they'll end up hanging on to DK Metcalf.
25:33I'm not sure if that's the best thing to do, but Jeremy Bernard, the tight ends, like, where do you go with those guys?
25:41You're going to hang on to the running backs, obviously, um, or at least Warren, you absolutely will.
25:46But with the sealers going into their buy, there's a lot of players on this team that have made their way onto
25:53fantasy rosters that probably are going to come off.
25:56If DK Metcalf were dropped, did you pick them up?
25:59Yeah. In a minute. If Omari, how many receivers am I, how many receivers am I starting?
26:04Three, two, you know what? I'll say two in a flex.
26:07Yeah, probably. Okay. I don't know. If I've got really good receivers, obviously I won't.
26:12What answer then could I have given you? You're starting two receivers, two receiver league, no flex.
26:17I don't know those eight, eight teams, two receivers, no flex.
26:21Dave is leaving them on the way. Right. But, but no, to your point, the smaller leagues, you're definitely going to see DK Metcalf out there.
26:29And I wouldn't race to get them. Would you pick up Omari and Hampton when I drop him in the super flex league?
26:36It's Tuesday. He was third on the team in a snapshot today.
26:40What'd you say, Jamie? The sabotage drop. Yeah. I don't know.
26:43I mean, I might drop him. I'm pretty over it at this point as we all are.
26:48Okay. Let's go to Jamie's losers. Parker Washington, one catch for 16 yards on two targets against the Colts with Trevor Lawrence
26:55having only 14 pass attempts and George Pickens, two catches for 48 yards.
26:59He had a chunk play called back, but yeah, not, I mean, he had a, he had like 12.9 fantasy points called back.
27:06he's still a loser. I know. Okay. I'm confused.
27:09So I saw that he had a 59 yard touchdown called back George Pickens, but then upon further investigation, it may have
27:16only been like a 35 yard catch. Cause he may have been down at some point.
27:21I, Dave, can you help me here? Did we, did we figure this out?
27:25Does it matter? Yeah. It was, he was down after 32 yards, but it was called back by a holding penalty.
27:32Okay. So it wasn't, cause I saw the same thing.
27:35He had a 59 yard touchdown called back and reality would have been a 32 yard reception.
27:40All right. Jamie, you can talk about Parker Washington and George Pickens.
27:44I think just for Washington, we're, we're, we're getting some down games.
27:47Not that that was, uh, that, that that should be a surprise because he wasn't going to continue to be at the
27:54pace that he was at, but you just, you know, this is a guy that we were looking at.
28:00I was looking at as a consistent top 15 wide receiver.
28:03And you're seeing just the evolution of this offense and Trevor Lawrence using other guys.
28:08And so you're still going to start Parker Washington, but it's kind of similar like Jalen Coker and some of these other receivers that we've talked about recently.
28:17Like there's just not going to be, Hey, they're going to consistently win weeks for you.
28:22Now, again, that's in a week where Drake London was terrible and Zay Flowers was terrible.
28:27And, uh, I'm sure I'm missing. Omar Cooper was terrible, you know, so chalk it up to just maybe a tough week for wide receivers.
28:34Um, but I just think you'd look at the, where, where Washington's at.
28:38To me, he's a great by low candidate. And I think if you can get him cheap at this point, because I
28:45think it's three of his last four games have been pretty disappointing.
28:49Um, for pickings, it's been a season of disappointments and another, not big game, but another quality game for Ryan Flannoy, who catches a touchdown.
28:56And you're just seeing that pickings again, disappointing. Yes.
28:59Leaving production on the field because of issues, but it's still lack of production for George pickings consistently at this point.
29:06And so he still falls in the by low category because you know what the potential is in the upside when he
29:13starts to play at a high level, but it's now eight weeks in and he's had one week where he's played really at a high level.
29:21I think one week, maybe two. Um, it's just been a very frustrating season so far for George pick.
29:26And so just a continuation for him and just a recent stretch for Parker Washington, where they're being that, where their, their performances have been disappointing.
29:35And for pickings, one of those big weeks, I think he's had two big weeks with one of them.
29:40CD lamb got hurt in that game. That's true.
29:43Yeah. That was the bucks game. I believe that's the one.
29:47And they, so this is a team that two weeks ago, uh, Brian Schottenheimer was saying, we're got, we got to run the ball more.
29:54And Dak Prescott in the last two games, including an overtime game today, fewer than 30 pass attempts.
30:00And I think based on the early snap count that I saw Ryan Flannoy played more snaps than George pickings today, he's
30:07getting about the same amount of targets each week.
30:09I'm glad you mentioned him. Cause I'm pretty, you know, disappointed, uh, no doubt in George pickings.
30:15I think a lot of people are, but I feel like it's like chase Brown.
30:19It's like, what the hell am I going to do?
30:22I mean, I'm not sitting George pickings. I suppose in some scenarios I could buy, I think he's going to be started
30:29in over 80% of leagues next week. He's 95% this week.
30:33Right. I mean, it's hard to sit them. I mean, playing the Colts, it could just be another run game for them.
30:39Yeah. Heath, you got Ashton Gentty and Zay flowers.
30:42So Gentty, we're about to talk about also, don't, I haven't forgotten the Colts, the, uh, Falcons bucks game and Baker Mayfield,
30:49not completing a single pass all day and yet still outscoring Michael Penix jr.
30:53So we will get that. That is amazing. Um, but he, Ashton Gentty, 93% started.
30:58He had five touches. What do we do here?
31:01The incredible thing is he had five touches. Mike Washington had 25 touches and Ashton Gentty scored more fantasy points.
31:07Um, like this is a disaster. And I think you hope that the fact that Mike Washington was also inefficient as a
31:14rusher in a lead role leads to something more balanced.
31:17But there's no doubt. He's a loser. It's like so far this season, he's been a really bad rusher, but the volume
31:24and especially in the passing game was so good that he's still a borderline top 12 running back.
31:29And now I think we'll put him down in that low end RB two range where you're just kind of hoping.
31:36And sometimes those hopes turn into good starts and sometimes those hopes turn into disasters.
31:40And that's kind of where Ashton Gentty is right now.
31:43Okay. Would you rather have Ashton Gentty or Jonah Coleman rest of season?
31:47Coleman. I'm going to take Gentty. Me too. Amazing that we had to think about that, right?
31:53Yeah. Someone's asking in the chat, Chase Brown or Gentty?
31:56Brown. Probably. Brown had a long touchdown, about 30 yard or called back.
32:00Called back. Yeah. Yeah. I'll go back to, I referenced it quite a bit.
32:04Our colleague, former GM, Ran Carthon. What's the name of the podcast?
32:08I don't butcher it. With the first pick. With the first pick.
32:11I was going to say first pick. With the first pick.
32:15Podcast said that Mike Washington is a better fit running the ball for this offense than Ashton Gentty.
32:20He said that preseason. So, like, I believe that.
32:23And it seems like true objectively at this point.
32:26I kind of feel like if you take a job with a team that just drafted a, Gentty's still very talented in space.
32:33He showed that today. Yeah. And if you take a job with a team that just drafted this guy early in the
32:40first round, like, you should probably just run the system that he's best at.
32:44I don't know, man. Like, you're going to run your system, right?
32:48You're, you're Clint. Well, it didn't work with Mike Washington.
32:51Like, I know they won the game, but he, he just kept getting stuffed at the goal line.
32:57I, you know, what did he have? He had 25 carries for 83 yards.
33:01Okay. It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. I think you, you, you hope that he can adapt to your system.
33:07And we see this all the time with coaches versus, you know, star players or the potential of star players.
33:13It's just, you know, he's going to like, like he said, he's going to, what he said, he's going to run the
33:20system that he wants to run and, you know, hope that Gentty can make plays out of it.
33:26I just, this doesn't make sense why he was bench that, you know, some people were saying because of what he said in the media.
33:33I don't know. I don't think he was that.
33:36I mean, it happened to Samuel Porter. Did it?
33:39I guess. Did it happen again to Sam Laporta?
33:42I mean, I don't know. No, I mean, I think it's just like they're, they're taking the Jerry Jones route.
33:48So, Oh, you don't, you don't like what you don't like what you're being paid.
33:53We have a tweet here from Sam Gordon, you know, with a Clint Kubiak's press conference and saying that Clint Kubiak said
33:59it was his call that Ashton Gentty, you know, didn't really get a lot of work and quote Gentty's quote, still going
34:06to be a big part of our team. And then he was asked if the limited workload had anything to do with
34:13the midweek comments in the media, where Gentty said the jets have some guys who look like they don't want to tackle.
34:20And Kubiak said, it did not have anything to do with that for what it's worth.
34:25My, you know, question I had about this game, Dave is like, do you think we should be looking to sell Brock
34:31Bowers in the anticipation of Fernando Mendoza at some point getting this?
34:35Because I mean, cousins played great today. He's not going to get, he's not going to get benched because of performance at this point.
34:43You don't think, but it could happen anyway. They won.
34:46I know, but eventually, I mean, they're not there.
34:48I, I would, I would think, and I don't know the exact opponents.
34:53They have some pretty tough games coming up and I do their buy is week 11.
34:57Uh, it's 13 week 13. Yeah. So you want to throw Mendoza in there before that?
35:02No, the thing it's, it's a, it's a weird thing because if they can win even one of the next three, but
35:09definitely two of the next four, I mean, one of the next four, but definitely two of the next four, they've got
35:16three gimmies after their buy against the Cardinals, Titans, and chargers.
35:19They are the Cowboys like a word about the Raiders do not have any gimmies.
35:24Like, Oh, well, those are 100% getting, I know they're four and four.
35:28The Cardinals have beaten the Rams and the Cowboys on the road this year.
35:32And now they have Gardner Minshew. Come on. No, there's no gimmies.
35:36I don't think this team's got any gimmies in them.
35:39They have a horrible defense, but they, their next three games are the Niners, Seahawks, and Broncos.
35:44All right. Well, yeah, I think that's the first game we're talking about goal line work.
35:49Um, I don't know if there was, you know, Pittsburgh is going to use both guys.
35:54Minnesota had, uh, Aaron Jones in at the one yard line.
35:58It may have been in the hurry up. Kyler Murray threw a touchdown to Justin Jefferson on that play.
36:04What a catch. And, you know, Las Vegas was just Mike Washington for the most part, but Gentie mixed in there a little bit.
36:11They're not a ton of goal line stuff. A lot of almost touchdowns today.
36:15Garrett Wilson had an almost touchdown. She rice had one called back on a penalty.
36:20Khalil Shakir had one overturned. Justin Jefferson was open in the end zone, almost had a second touchdown, but Kyler Murray over.
36:27Oh, actually, you know what? No, I'm wrong. It was the same possession.
36:31He overthrew him and then came back to him for the touchdown.
36:34I mentioned Chase Brown had a long touchdown catch call back.
36:38Keon Coleman almost had a deep ball touchdown. He was wide open and Josh Allen missed him.
36:43That would have been a huge play. Um, Denzel Boston had an almost touchdown.
36:47Michael Wilson came up a yard short of a touchdown.
36:51Derek Henry had one called back on a hold.
36:53Um, Bucky early fumbled going into the end zone.
36:56Go ahead. Kenneth Walker got stuffed again. Mm-hmm. Maybe a Kareem hunt time.
37:00Mike Washington got stuff. A lot. Uh, let's see.
37:03Dalton Kincaid. I mentioned that Dalton Kincaid dropped, but I thought would have been a touchdown.
37:08DK Metcalf dropped a deep ball on both. Jeremiah love and Tyler Algier got stuffed at the one yard line.
37:14I think we wait. Did we take our second break?
37:17I don't even remember. I think we did. Uh, now we haven't yet.
37:21We haven't. Okay. Let's take our second break and we'll get through all the games, starting with the shootout, the jets and the Raiders after this.
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38:18What's that? Taking a break. I had a basial tootin during that.
38:21Man, we missed our Eddie Bay window on basial tootin.
38:25You can't get him now. Oh my God. You tried.
38:28You tried. I tried my hardest. You kept offering the wrong Jets running back though.
38:32I offered both. I offered both. Not to me.
38:35You didn't. Well, you don't have him. No, you offered me for DeAndre Swift.
38:39You only offered me Brees Hall. I thought I offered you Brees Hall and something.
38:44I don't know if you Brees Hall. Jordan Love, but if you had offered both Jets running backs, I might consider it.
38:51Okay. No, I offered Heath, both Jets running backs for basial tootin.
38:54Heath wisely rejected. And we go to this game here with Braylon Allen having a nice day.
39:00And the quarterbacks are really good today. Trey Tucker was really bad.
39:03I mean, Trey Tucker, geez, 84% started one target.
39:06What did I tell you earlier today? I think that theory is true.
39:10Which is what? Oh, the mayor thing. Michael Mayer and Trey Tucker will not play well on the same day.
39:16Okay. It's very possible, but they already did what did once.
39:20It did. They did not twice. Okay. And then unfortunately, like Jalen Naylor had a good game for catches, 38 yards and a touchdown for Naylor.
39:28So we've actually spoken quite a bit about this game.
39:31Dave, anything you want to say? Are you going to pick up Adonai Mitchell?
39:35You think, I think if I needed a bi-week replacement receiver, he would come into the conversation.
39:41I don't know if he's going to necessarily be the number one guy that I would add.
39:46Don't like that. He's got the chiefs next, but in week 10, it's Buffalo chargers after that Miami after that.
39:52So there are some games coming up where you can feel kind of good about this jets offense.
39:58Uh, man, I, I wish Gino were just a little more accurate and had a little bit more power on his deep
40:04balls because not every single one of them. And it's not just this week.
40:09It's previous weeks too. Not every single one of them look good.
40:12I thought I'd look up what the snap counts were for Brees and Braylon from earlier this year in week one.
40:19It was Brees 60, 40 over Braylon Allen, but Braylon Allen handled 75% of the third downs week two is Brees 65% Braylon 30%.
40:26And again, Braylon Allen 10 of 19 on third downs.
40:29So I wonder if that could be what their roles go back to, um, maybe with a little bit more splitting on
40:36running downs, because how did the jets get away from how Braylon Allen has played over the last couple of weeks?
40:43So I, it, it kind of sucks because we'd like to have one great jets running back.
40:48And now we're going to have two jets running backs taking away from each other.
40:53And it's going to be really hard to figure out which one we're going to want, at least at the jump, maybe
40:59after a game or two that maybe you listen, some of those matchups coming up are great.
41:05Maybe some of those matchups will want both of those guys.
41:08But for now you, you kind of, you know, I, I don't know which one of you guys were talking about Brees, maybe getting traded.
41:16I think fancy managers would love that. See Brees go to Minnesota as an example.
41:20And so Braylon keeps the job in New York.
41:23Brees becomes the stud for the Vikings. They both end up being really good, but I don't know how much of that
41:30is tethered to reality at this point. And speaking of Minnesota, Detroit 19, Minnesota 15, Thomas Schaefer leaves and the Vikings are now winless in the post Schaefer.
41:39Oh, FFT era. The lions had the ball for almost 36 minutes in this game.
41:43And one of the big plays in this game that really changed things for fantasy was Amon Ross St.
41:49Brown having a touchdown overturned. You know, it's a, it's not a great game for Jared golf with that play.
41:55And, and who knows, maybe he doesn't even throw the touchdown of Jamison Williams at the end, but for a team that
42:02gave up four touchdown passes in their previous 14 games, they almost gave up to today.
42:07They ended up giving up one so we can move, you know, look, nothing that happens bad game for Jared golf.
42:13What happens against the Vikings stays in against the Vikings on the other side of the ball.
42:19Jamie, any takeaways from the, from Minnesota with Kyler's Kyler scored 23.9 fantasy points and he led the team in rushing.
42:25It wasn't bad. And then Jefferson was lucky to get the touchdown.
42:29I mean, watching Kyler play is rough. Like he holds the ball, holds the ball, holds the ball.
42:35Like there are so many opportunities where he's throwing it.
42:38You could see Justin Jefferson is obviously frustrated at this point.
42:41Um, nice down, throw down the field to Jordan Addison.
42:44So give him credit for that. Uh, Hawkinson, another strong games.
42:47That's clearly the guy that he's leaning on the most now.
42:51So three of the last four games for Hawkinson and the fourth one being one that he left early with a concussion.
42:58He's had, I think it's now 13 or more PPR points.
43:01So he's been very consistent. And obviously as Dave alluded to a winner coming off of, uh, game, but he also had the best matchup of the table.
43:10So just keep that in mind. I think it was with this, this offense, you're still going to start Jefferson.
43:16I had him, I think as a loser last week, if I'm not mistaken.
43:20Um, and was very concerned about the production. Like you said, you got lucky with the touchdown here.
43:26Uh, he just misses Jefferson. Jefferson's open all the time and he just does not throw it to him.
43:32I don't understand it. So, uh, still a borderline number one, number two, receiver high end number two receiver.
43:38Really the concern is, is this run game. I think with both guys being healthy, you can't start either one is anything more than a flex.
43:46Like we got excited about Mason because we thought Jones was going to miss this game with a knee injury.
43:52He ends up practicing, uh, Thursday and playing in this game.
43:55I thought he looked decent, um, on a couple of his runs, but it's just, there's too much competition here, especially against
44:02the, the, the lions still have a good run defense.
44:05Did you guys catch Jefferson really miffed on the sidelines?
44:08Yes. At one point in this game, he refused to talk after the game.
44:12Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was, so that's one problem.
44:15And so the Vikings are going to have to figure that out.
44:19Three different guys on Minnesota had at least 20% of the snaps among the running backs.
44:24It wasn't just Jones and Mason DJ Dallas got involved.
44:27He had nine of 10 snaps on third down.
44:30So that's taking opportunities away from these running backs.
44:33It's frustrating. It's weird that they're going with three guys instead of two.
44:37And that's part of the reason why we didn't get a, even like a remotely good game for many of these running backs.
44:44I would, I would hope if they trade for Taylor, Brees Hall, Tony Pollard, whoever, if they do make that move that
44:50they send would most likely be Mason, send them to the team that they trade for.
44:55So that one of these guys gets an opportunity, maybe on a different team to still be productive because if they stay
45:02with the, the, the group that they have and then they just put somebody better at the front of it, like it's just going to be annoying.
45:11Okay. I, yeah, I think it's important to know that when, when, when Mason or Jones has had the show to himself, whether it be last year, right.
45:19These are not bad running backs. So it's just, it is too much of a timeshare, especially great point, Dave with the third down stuff.
45:27Okay. Yeah. It'll, it would be Mason, by the way, his contract voids after this year.
45:32I don't think I, I don't think I should skip Sam Laporta three catches for 33 yards on five.
45:38The lions did. I mean, this is just like, this is just the life of a tight end unless you're, you know,
45:45and probably back to back weeks though. I know, but it like Travis Kelsey had a lot of targets today.
45:51I mean, this look at, we talked about Harold Fannin at the start of the show or earlier in the show.
45:57Right. I mean, like I'd be buying Sam Laporta big time right now.
46:01He's going to have great games. This is Sam Laporta.
46:04This always happens with Sam Laporta. The problem, the big problem was it was like 25 passes.
46:10Like he had a 20% target share, which is what he was at before the buy when he was awesome, but it was 25 passes.
46:17And now they play the dolphins this week. They'll probably throw 25 passes.
46:21So hope he scores a touchdown. Oh, they can't cover.
46:24They're so bad against Ted. Well, I mean, do you guys agree about buying Laporta?
46:29Oh, absolutely. Sure. Now's the time. Just the one thing I would disagree with is like Laporta was drafted to be a week in, week out, consistent contributor.
46:38Not do I question starting him? And I think there's some people questioning, starting him, but I'm not questioning, starting him.
46:44I know you're not, but people see production and they see lack of it.
46:49And they're going to question starting him. I mean, yeah, he was started in 77% of leagues.
46:54That's low for where he was drafted. I agree.
46:57I completely agree. I think a lot of that was the Minnesota matchup, but sure.
47:01Hopefully people will have more confidence next week against the dolphins.
47:05You know, there's a question. They were not. I'll, you can be honest with me if you guys agree with it, but
47:11someone said, can we stop with the, can we scrap the almost touchdown segment?
47:16It means nothing and doesn't matter. And my opinion is it's just, it's just kind of interesting to know how, how your
47:23fantasy out, how your fantasy game could have changed.
47:25If one thing had gone a certain way. I mean, again, like Dalton Kincaid drops that pass next play.
47:31DJ Moore gets a touchdown. And sometimes it's important to know that guys were pretty close to having a big game and
47:38they just got a little unlucky or they were pretty close to having a terrible game and they had a touchdown.
47:44You know, that's why I bring it up. You say segment.
47:48It's literally a minute of you just reading stuff that almost happened.
47:52We don't, we don't sit and break it down.
47:54Right. Right. Let's watch the tape on the almost touchdown.
47:57All right. Pittsburgh, 26, Cleveland, Cleveland, six. It's Judkins bad.
48:0172% started 11 carries for 25 yards. And I think this is it, right?
48:05When he faces a tough run defense, the rushing averages have been horrible and he needs the, the good receiving totals.
48:11And he hasn't gotten them with Dylan Samson healthy.
48:14By the way, Samson had eight targets in this game.
48:17Five of them came in the last five minutes of the game, but maybe next week at new Orleans could be a start for Quen Sean Judkins.
48:26Dave, what do you think? Yeah. I mean, it's a better matchup against the saints.
48:30They, uh, they should be able to move the ball on the ground there.
48:35The offensive line. I thought I didn't see enough of it to know for sure, but I thought the offensive line was way, way worse this week.
48:43And it's almost like everything that happened to the Browns last week was more about the Titans defense messing up than it was with the Browns did.
48:51Right. And you look at conception, like the targets were down for conception.
48:55His numbers were bad. Same thing with Judkins. Those were two guys that, you know, we, a lot of people gravitated toward.
49:02I gravitated toward Judkins for sure, but this week it didn't happen.
49:06Tougher defense. That's part of the game. Maybe it goes back the other way against new Orleans.
49:11Uh, man, Pittsburgh's defense is playing great right now.
49:14Last three games. They've allowed 19 points to the bucks, played an overtime in that one, 10 points to the saints, six
49:21points to the Browns, not the toughest offenses. Jalen Daniels led bucks, but their defense is playing great.
49:26Uh, okay. How would you rank the four main wide receivers in this game?
49:30Rest of season Heath, DK, Bernard, conception, Boston. Anyone disagree?
49:34No, I'd, I'd flip the Browns receivers. I would make the case that Roman Wilson will be back at some point.
49:40Michael Pittman will be back at some point. And Jeremy Bernard, Michael Pittman doesn't matter.
49:45I don't know about that for, for Jeremy Bernard.
49:47He doesn't matter. I mean, it may not matter.
49:50I don't know. Okay. Okay. Fine. Uh, well, let's go to our next game.
49:55I'm not sure any of them are going to matter the way that Rogers is playing these days.
50:00Don't know. Washington might matter. I wish he would.
50:03It's just, he's fun. Never any consistency with his routes.
50:06Some weeks, no run in half 60%. Some weeks running 20%.
50:09What did you say before about Laporta and his production?
50:13I don't know. This is tight. This is a tight end.
50:16I mean, listen, Rogers likes him. I love him.
50:19I mean, he's the most, he's one of the most fun players in the game.
50:23Well, of course. Yeah. It's like a left tackle rumbling down the field.
50:27Well, Dave, I want to congratulate you as future Adam.
50:30You nailed the game of the week, Arizona 33, Dallas 30.
50:34So I'll let you give any major takeaways from this one.
50:37Uh, Jamie talked about George Pickens earlier. Anything else?
50:40We should probably talk about Jeremiah love and how frustrated he has been.
50:44And the fact that he got hurt again, probably means that he's going to miss more time and just maybe not have
50:51a chance until at best, the end of the season to like, I don't know, survive three quarters of a football game
50:58and maybe touch the ball 10 times. It's a mess.
51:01And we don't know if Michael Wilson's going to be ready to go for their next game.
51:06He's got some cracked ribs, but at least he came through for a big game for fantasy managers.
51:12And, and this is the time to trade them away because the matchup, tips are going to get harder.
51:17If you hung on to them, that's great. You got a good game out of them.
51:22Do not expect to get a ton in trade for him moving forward.
51:26Minshew coming into play is always fun, but we know that Minshew like two weeks from now is going to just absolutely lay an egg.
51:34And I'm not saying that just because the schedule is going to be bad for Arizona, but because that's what Minshew does
51:41is that he comes in, he provides a spark and then eight quarters later, the spark is out.
51:46So I'm sorry to be a downer on the Cardinals, but it is the Cardinals.
51:51It's nice that they came through with a, with a win against Dallas and probably should just talk about the Cowboys at this point.
51:59The only thing I would push back on is like Jacoby Brissett for the last two years has been in about the most fantasy friendly situation.
52:07A quarterback could be in is like, you have this elite tight end and Trey McBride, you have decent wide receivers and
52:13you're always down by two scores in the second half.
52:16So you get to throw 40 times a game.
52:19And I do think that's something Gardner Minshew can do successfully for fantasy.
52:23Like I don't, they're not going to win games, although he did it today.
52:28And I, I, I think he can be as good as Jacoby Brissett has been.
52:32And a guy that we want to start in matchups that look like shootouts.
52:37I think the more important thing is, is he good or bad for Michael Wilson and Trey McBride?
52:42He's good. He's, he can't be worse than Brissett.
52:45Brissett's been awful this year. Like I know it's been okay fantasy wise, but he's been not as good as he was last year.
52:52He's been terrible. And I don't know how great the offense is when you don't have, you know, we talked about this
52:59a little bit, the field stretcher and Marvin Harrison, you know, so things are very condensed.
53:04It was going to open up this week because Dallas, not bad Dallas is.
53:08So yes, you got to worry about the schedule.
53:11Yes. Dave is right. You should sell high on Michael Wilson.
53:15Yes. Heath is right. The Gardner Minshew is going to perform very similar to Jacoby Brissett.
53:19I think they're all, everything is accurate here. You know?
53:23So like you're, you're, you shouldn't be concerned to your point at your question.
53:27You shouldn't be concerned about Michael Wilson or Trey McBride because of Gardner Minshew.
53:31Gardner Minshew is Jacoby Brissett. Like they're, they're the same type of player.
53:35It's going to be the same type of situation.
53:38And you just saw it happen and fold right in front of your eyes.
53:42Everything that, that Gardner Minshew did was trailing late in game, hurry up, go throw, can't run the ball.
53:48I know Algier had a couple of big runs.
53:51They still can't run the ball. They're terrible. So it's going to be a lot of this scenario.
53:57It's just the matchups are going to get a lot more challenging.
54:00So don't expect to have great production from these guys.
54:03Don't expect them to be league winners. Don't expect them to save your fantasy season.
54:08But if you're desperate, Gardner Minshew is right there.
54:11He's going to be in these types of games all the time.
54:14I mean, I would expect it from McBride. I think he's pretty much locked in.
54:19And one other thing on Wilson is if, if the rib fractures end up being something that sidelines them, then of course you can't trade them.
54:27And then he's just sitting on your bench. Yeah.
54:30And if he's out, it's Kendrick Bourne. Like that's the guy you go get.
54:34Well, we had a high ankle sprain. No, no, I'm saying he's healthy.
54:38Same thing. He's not high ankle sprain for Kendrick Bourne.
54:41That's what I saw. Okay. All right. And then for the Cowboys, you know, not a good game for Javante Williams, but that's okay.
54:49It's surprising, but we'll go back to him. I'm sure.
54:52And a CD lamb is great. Ryan Flannoy is definitely going to be a topic on the waiver wire show.
54:58Sorry to short change it, but how many, how many Colts are you starting next week?
55:03Against the Dallas defense. Yeah. Against the Dallas defense.
55:06I mean, only one, if he's still there too, I guess Warren and, and, and Taylor, if he's still there, that's it.
55:13Maybe Keenan Allen, the three, really. I can't be excited about the Colts.
55:17They stink. Yeah. Tampa Bay 16, Atlanta zero. This was a, what a game.
55:21Yeah. Like literally, what a total mess. This game was the poster child for playing the dome.
55:26The first time since before anyone on this show was born.
55:30That a team won a game without completing a pass.
55:33What was the year? 1974. Yeah. Wow. We were like, as old as we are, you are.
55:38None of us were born. I'm the second youngest guy on this show.
55:42Yeah. But I'm the youngest. I can't even grow a beard.
55:45You're immature. Yeah. I don't think there are really any major takeaways from this.
55:50Oh, I think there's one. Penix literally could not hold the ball.
55:53He couldn't throw. He couldn't throw the ball. It was, but it wasn't even raining that much in the second half.
56:00No, it stopped in the second half. He had four interceptions and then there were like three other passes that were, that
56:07were like, should have been picked off. I know we don't do almost interceptions, but Michael Penix would have headlined that segment pretty easily.
56:14Would you like to relitigate the B. John Robinson segment from last week?
56:18I wanted to say that you're an idiot for ranking Chris Godwin in the top 36.
56:23I do think there's something like the three pass attempts is obviously LOL, but he threw 11 last week.
56:29Yeah. Like, I'm not sure I'm going to be excited about him.
56:33Even if he can play. Well, last week was a 43 to 13 win.
56:37Yeah. I mean, these are there. They, they just literally won the exact same way.
56:42Two games in a row. With the next two games are Chicago and Detroit.
56:46Yeah. They're not going to be able to win.
56:49Listen, maybe their defense is just way, way, way, way better than anybody's giving them credit for.
56:54But I'd be shocked if they won another game like this, where they just run the ball straight down the throats.
57:00God, what? That a 33% target share deal. He did.
57:04Comment of the year. But he's to your point.
57:06I think it's pretty clear. They're going to want to run the ball.
57:10It's going to be, you know, so Bucky Irving is amazing.
57:14Now on the other side of it, Dave, yes, they're the best team in the division.
57:19Yeah. What a division. B. John Robinson with his fourth straight disappointing game.
57:23Yeah. And okay, let's relitigate it. Although I never was arguing against him.
57:27I was just saying like people, his managers are disappointed this.
57:30I mean, if anyone's selling, this has got to be the most obvious by low in the world, right?
57:36Yes. Yes. But don't expect it to happen. You're still going to have to pay.
57:41I'm going to go ahead and claim that for Wednesday's show.
57:44If it's okay. Yeah. He's all yours. Thanks. Where would you, if you were redrafting today, where would you draft B.
57:51John Robinson? I'd still be tempted to take them in round one.
57:54Obviously. I don't know if I would take them as a top five.
57:58He would be behind Puka, Jason, Chase. Yep. And Walker.
58:01Well, it was awesome. Five at the episode. Two weeks.
58:04I don't know how, I don't know how you'd take him over.
58:08Kenneth Walker has been fantastic. I, he'd be at fifth at the absolute highest.
58:12Okay. Um, yeah, we got a comment from the, from Frank.
58:16Would you sell Ken Walker for B. John Robinson?
58:19Emmett Johnson arrived today. You know, I don't know if Emmett Johnson arrived today.
58:23It was a great performance, but, uh, more currently has the, uh, the chief season high and receiving yards in a game.
58:30Emmett Johnson. Really? This is hysterical. All right. Next.
58:33A hundred and 28 yards today, by the way, Kenneth game will have 25 carries.
58:3717 of them came in the fourth quarter. Bucky Irving only had one in the fourth quarter.
58:42I mean, every time I looked up, Bucky, everyone was like seven yards to carry.
58:47Yeah. He's amazing. Yep. He was fantastic. Well, the Falcons defense stumped to Buffalo 36, Baltimore, 10 Buffalo.
58:53I don't, I mean, that was this really 36 to 10.
58:56Is that the final score? Because this was this weird game where the Ravens were somehow in it for a long time.
59:03Yeah. And then it's steamrolled in the fourth quarter, 36, right.
59:06And, uh, yeah. Ravens are in some trouble here.
59:09You mean their third string quarterback was not good, but the, but the bills kept let it, keeping them in the game.
59:16It was like, how is this still a game?
59:19Oh, the bills offense was bad for most of the game.
59:22Yeah. And Josh Allen ends up with a, with more than 30 fantasy points, of course.
59:27So we talked about Zay flowers and who, who'd you rather have rest of the season?
59:32Derek Henry or Zay flowers? Still flowers. I think I'd say flowers too.
59:36I'm, I'm really worried about Henry. Me too. Yeah.
59:39Go on. I mean, I know why, but why?
59:41Uh, the rushing average sucks when Lamar is not there.
59:45That was kind of the case for part of last year too.
59:48He's not a pass catching running back. He's better when they win.
59:52They're not going to win anymore. I think it really comes down to what they do, what they have a quarterback.
59:58And if they, I can tell you, go ahead.
60:01Don't forget Jacksonville guy going, are they playing in Jacksonville?
60:04No, it's in Baltimore. Oh, nevermind. What were you going to say?
60:08He's going back home. Yeah. He always kills the Jaguars.
60:11but he's, he's going to have a hard time doing it this week.
60:15Short week, no quarterback. They're not playing this week.
60:18Yeah. The defense is played 72 snaps. I believe today, 76.
60:21Excuse me. This is a, this is a tough spot for the Ravens.
60:25I don't, I don't think they'll score next week.
60:28What's your interest in Khalil Shakir? 57% rostered. He had five catches for 64 yards.
60:33It's been an almost touchdown. And an almost touchdown.
60:36Great. There's only two teams on a buy next week.
60:39Right. Khalil Shakir is 11 PPR. But it's four straight games.
60:42Like this is what you're getting. He's, he's Buffalo Malik.
60:45Yep. I think actually Malik is Miami Khalil. Okay, sure.
60:48Shakir was doing it first. Yep. Big, big distinction there.
60:51Okay. Next game. Oh, no, wait real quick. Sorry.
60:54Throw it. You can throw the stats back up.
60:57How much do you trust Dalton Kincaid on a weekly basis on it?
61:01On the trust-o-meter on a scale of one to 10, zero to 10, five.
61:05It'll be tight end 10. Yeah. I'm going to say four or five.
61:09Like I'm not ready to rush right back into his arms and say that he's my must start tight end.
61:15You can't get that answer. Jamie. Oh, wait, they play Minnesota next week.
61:19Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a, probably a one next week and a five after that.
61:25Jamie, I say on a scale of zero to 10, how much do you trust them?
61:30And you say he's tight. He's going to be tight end 10.
61:33You said the number 10 AI would be so confused right now.
61:37If it were transcribing, you can't. So is AI trying to make Keith happy.
61:41I'm trying to make Keith happy by screwing up AI, Cincinnati, 43, Tennessee, 36 overtime thriller.
61:46And Cam Ward had a great game, 30 fantasy points.
61:49I don't think. He really did. He looked good at times.
61:53He looked completely lost a couple of times, but this is the best.
61:57He's played in a long, long time. The broadcast had a really good note, like in the fourth quarter of games.
62:03And granted, some of this is garbage time. His metrics.
62:06The fact that you listen to the broadcast in this game is amazing.
62:10What? What's wrong with that? This is the game you watch on mute.
62:14No, I saw it on the screen. Okay. And Robert Turbin does the broadcast.
62:19Oh, okay. I think we actually had it. We actually had it on in the room for a little bit.
62:25What did they say? That Cam Ward in the fourth quarter has much improved metrics.
62:30Oh, compared to the first three quarters. Look, man, like if he keeps putting together, probably.
62:35Yeah. Listen, it's probably a garbage time stat for sure.
62:38But if he keeps playing well, we already talked about how the Titans are at least staying in games.
62:43Maybe there's something to ward. Maybe he'll have some matchups toward the end of the season where we'll be like, all right,
62:50maybe we, no, I can't even say the, dude, he's at this schedule.
62:54Dallas. I know. I know. Colts Raiders. It's got some great games.
62:58I, he really has to prove it though. Like I get that.
63:02He had a great game today against Cincinnati and we probably should, we should probably to write.
63:07And we should probably talk about that Bengals defense and whether or not that's a tough matchup anymore.
63:13Cause it's clearly not. It's Dr. Jekyll and Mr.
63:15Hyde. Yeah. Like every time we think they're good, they're, they're bad.
63:19And every time we think they're bad, they're good.
63:22I think they lost three starters on their defense in the second half, including DJ Turner, who I talk about every day of my life.
63:30They lost. Who did he shadow today? I don't think he shadowed.
63:33I don't think he shadowed Cardinal Tate. Shut down Cardinal Tate today.
63:37Cedric Johnson and Cassius Howell and DJ Turner all left in the second half.
63:41They got out of Atlanta next week on Cincinnati side of the ball.
63:45I think someone wanted us to talk about T Higgins.
63:48Like T Higgins has always been a great, you know, very good receiver.
63:52He's never been this good. Who has more fantasy points this season?
63:56T Higgins or Puka Nakua? Oh, Higgins. Yeah. It's got to be because Puka missed two games.
64:01Didn't he? Total fantasy points. Not per game. Total.
64:04Higgins. Higgins. Higgins has one more point. I thought you were going to say who's averaging more per game between Higgins and Chase.
64:11The Bengals really need to stop trying to run early in the game and just throw the ball from the jump.
64:18Because when they throw the ball, they're unstoppable. Yep.
64:21So would you rather have T Higgins or Derek Henry rest of season?
64:25Higgins. T Higgins. T Higgins or Justin Jefferson? T Higgins.
64:28Higgins. Jamie? Clean sweet? Higgins. Okay. All right. Jacksonville, 42 Indianapolis.
64:31Chase Brown. I mean, we got to talk about Chase Brown, man.
64:35Go ahead. Go ahead. Jamie, Chase Brown with, we got his stat line for you.
64:3912 carries, 55 yards, but thank goodness for PPR leagues.
64:42He had eight catches for 46 yards. Usage was great again.
64:46And like you said, should have had a touchdown.
64:49Why in the world would you want Chase Brown?
64:51Because of games like this. Yeah. I mean, he's dominating snaps for a team that just scored 36 points in regulation.
64:58And he ran the ball. Okay. I mean, the average was pretty good until the end of the game.
65:04Yeah. Like, okay. It's been disappointing, but he just, he scored.
65:07I think he has one touchdown this year. I think you're right.
65:11So we got to get that going. Jacksonville 42, Indianapolis seven.
65:14Jamie talked about Parker Washington. I think we've spent enough time in the Colts.
65:19Obviously Josh Downs caught a touchdown today. When no one wanted to play him, 19% started.
65:24Tyler Warren had 10 targets. You can at least be encouraged by that.
65:28Terrible game. We'll see what happens at the quarterback.
65:30If Anthony Richardson takes over, then I don't think I'm going to want to start anyone other than Taylor.
65:36Trevor Lawrence, Jamie, great call. 87% started. He only scored 25.4 fantasy points, but he was, I mean, not only, but he
65:43was, you know, so good on 14 pass attempts.
65:46So this team is really good. And yeah, I mean, I think, I don't know.
65:50There's any big takeaways here. Nobody on the team had more than three targets.
65:55Basial Tootin's phenomenal. And I wouldn't panic about Washington just yet.
65:58I wouldn't panic about Brent Strange just yet. I think you see that they could still be great.
66:04The Jags DST is going to be a league winner if they get the, this Ravens office on Thursday again.
66:10And then I was trusting them against the Titans.
66:13Also, you see their next four games, Ravens, Titans, Giants, Titans.
66:16Yeah. Don't, don't give up on them. Yeah. Don't give up on them.
66:20DJ Giddens led the Colts and snaps after Jonathan Taylor left in the fourth quarter is basically the entire fourth quarter.
66:27Giddens, eight snaps, McGowan, five snaps. It's I think any, anything that happens for the Colts that does not bring a running back back in return.
66:35So let's just say it's Minnesota and they don't get one of the backs back or the giants, whatever, whoever, whoever takes on Taylor.
66:42If it's McGowan against, it's going to be split.
66:45No one is telling you to pick up either of these guys to say, they're going to save your fantasy team.
66:51These are flex options at best, but they're going to be given opportunities to have a workload that hopefully could lead to 10, 11 PPR points consistently.
67:00And if you're getting that, that's great. Yeah, definitely from a waiver wire pickup for sure.
67:05And it's not bad that they averaged in the first half, Taylor averaged 4.4 yards per carry McGowan average four yards per carry.
67:12This is Indy's first game without Quentin Nelson at left guard.
67:15And so I actually look at that as a small positive for Indianapolis, that they were able to be moderately efficient running the ball without Nelson.
67:23But don't you think that, do you think that maybe they were running against the backups for the Jaguars at that point
67:30in the first half of the game? No, I thought you said McGowan and, uh, well, they were because Hamilton got her early.
67:37Yeah, sure. So he was out and that might've helped a little bit too.
67:41Let's go to what has to be one of the worst movies ever, even though I've never seen it.
67:47Battle Los Angeles Rams, 24 chargers, nine, uh, note here, lad McConkie.
67:51If you're just seeing the box score, you might be like, damn, 86 yards.
67:55That's awesome. Get a 54 yard. Completely lucky catch on a deflected hail Mary.
68:00And he almost scored a touchdown. He almost scored a touchdown.
68:03Yeah. Other than that, I mean, what's subtract 54 yards.
68:06It's other than that, Justin Herbert threw for 203 yards, which, which isn't like God awful, but it ain't, but those interceptions weren't his fault.
68:14No. Oh goodness. Always playing so hard against him.
68:17I just don't, it's not fair. So any, any, any positives here for the chargers?
68:21One step closer to Jeremiah Smith. RJ, RJ White said, if I'm not mistaken, he, Dave was there.
68:27Um, the last time, the last two times that the chargers have started, Oh, and six, they've actually gone to own 11 both times.
68:34Wow. This is crazy. I mean, December 27th, circle it on the calendar.
68:38Chiefs game. No chargers dolphins in South Florida. I, I, I, I, do you want to make a bet on the, on
68:45the, on the game right now, Adam? I'll take the dolphins.
68:48No, I'm taking the dolphins. Okay. All right. So a couple of things here, Matthew Stafford, bad game, 10.3 fantasy points.
68:55Any concerns there? And Blake Corum, four straight games with at least 14 PPR fantasy points.
69:00Four straight games with a touchdown. Yeah. It's been cool.
69:03Buying it or selling it. He's, he's a very good flex.
69:06Great flex. If Kyron Williams got hurt, he would be probably a first round pick.
69:11Like it'd probably be as good as Kyron Williams has been this year.
69:15You know what? Kyron Williams would be a Blake Corum got hurt.
69:19Yeah. Right. Either way. All right. I think it's, I think if I saw on the broadcast, probably it's the sixth game
69:26this season that they both, scored touchdown. It's amazing.
69:28It's amazing. Denver. Oh, sorry. It's especially amazing. Cause Kyron had almost 70% of the snaps.
69:33Now he played a lot in the fourth quarter, but this was the first time where there had been a Rams blowout
69:40game and Corum didn't split reps in the second half, 50, 50.
69:44Why don't you go ahead and look up the first quarter numbers.
69:47Cause I think it was mostly Corum. I think they had three and outs on the first two Kyron drives.
69:54Cause that's what Lucas was saying to me. He was like, Corum has like three times as many carries as Kyron Williams.
70:00And it's because the Corum drives worked in the Kyron drives.
70:04Didn't by the way, Lucas is Heath's assistant. Get some coffee.
70:07Yes. Yes. It's my AI agent who has a fantasy team that started Lamar Jackson, Jeremiah love and Ashton Gentry today.
70:14So we were about 20 minutes into the early games and he went upstairs and didn't watch any more football with me today.
70:21Kyron had seven of nine snaps in the first quarter.
70:24Second quarter. It was still, it doesn't matter. A lot of Kyron.
70:28He had a lot of more carries though. Corum had more.
70:31And congratulations to the Rams and chargers. They now have more combined wins in their home stadium than the Cardinals do.
70:38Hey, all right. Can you name chief chiefs and Broncos here?
70:41Broncos with the dramatic 28, 24 win. Can you name the two quarterbacks who have scored the most points against the Broncos this year?
70:48Patrick Holmes. And Patrick Holmes. Correct. You scored about 30 points, about 26 points against 31 points and 26 points roughly against the Broncos this year.
70:56So nicely done. And he was only started in 35% of leagues.
71:00Do we have any Ken Walker concerns here? 21 carries for catches, but not a very good game after a terrible game last week.
71:08By low next three games, jets, Falcons, Cardinals bills after that.
71:11Love it. Let's go. Uh, we talked about Rasheed rice earlier.
71:14Travis Kelsey had a nice bounce back game, five catches for 67 yards, and he had a bad drop.
71:20Um, but one thing I want to point out about Kelsey, and this is a trend over the last three years now
71:27is they just like Noah Gray had a touchdown today.
71:30This used to be Patrick Mahomes is guy near the goal line.
71:34But so far on the year, Travis Kelsey has three red zone targets, zero green zone targets, which is the 10 yard
71:41line and in and two end zone targets. And it is a continuing trend for Travis Kelsey.
71:46He also limped off the field at one point.
71:49Thankfully he was okay. He did. He's been battling an ankle injury for the last two weeks.
71:54He said before the game that he was, uh, it wasn't going to keep him out of the game, but he wasn't going to be 100%.
72:02And that might just be the case for a little while.
72:05Hopefully it doesn't give him trouble, trouble, trouble. Um, Bo Nix.
72:09I thought that he was kind of fluky to get to 28 fantasy points in week seven against Arizona.
72:15I thought that this was a much, much, much better game for him.
72:19Um, getting to 23.3. It's starting to look like this offense is resembling like an actual NFL offense now.
72:24Yeah. I felt the same way. I feel like the, I don't know.
72:28I have to guess I have to go back and watch it.
72:32I felt like the line played pretty well today.
72:35Yep. All right. Good stuff. Jalen Waddle scored a touchdown and, uh, Cortland Sutton had his best game.
72:41I think his best game. Um, no, he has yet to stop.
72:44He had 9.3 PPR. Bo Nix is 61% rostered.
72:47He's at Carolina next week. So, uh, it's good for Coleman too.
72:51Oh my gosh. Jonah Coleman's the start of the week next week.
72:54I just, I was thinking that when he scored.
72:57I was thinking that when he scored. All right.
73:00New England, 24, Miami, 19. Somehow, some way, Drake may puts together 26, and a half fantasy points.
73:06This guy's incredible. That's his worst game in his last five.
73:09Yeah. Six point five. It looked ugly early. It sure did.
73:12His, how about his little fake on the option?
73:15Yeah, it was great. Run. It was worth six points.
73:18I know Ramond J Stevenson wasn't great for fantasy, but he had over 20 touches.
73:23So, you know, you can't really, I just, I can't get upset about that stuff.
73:28Um, I don't know any, any, I mean, you do if it's Bijon.
73:32No. Uh, I was, yeah. Well, anything else to say about this game?
73:36Any big takeaways here? I thought Malik Willis was okay too.
73:39I mean, he had the bad interception that bounced off the helmet, but you know, it was like bounced twice.
73:45Um, his upcoming schedule is very nice too. We've talked about this on Tuesday.
73:49Like you're getting now, this is what three straight games over 18 fancy points.
73:54Yeah. So he's not a bad streamer. He and Ollie Gordon were getting into it on the sideline.
73:59Yes. Ollie Gordon started like chirping at the Patriots defenders.
74:02And I think everybody was pissed at Ollie Gordon for doing that.
74:06He got a personal foul. So I was listening to that portion of it.
74:10So Ollie Gordon is apparently a hothead on the field and he's always talking smack.
74:15And they warned him not to do it from what I gathered from the broadcast.
74:20And he did it. And he got a personal foul penalty.
74:23And, and Malik Willis, from what I saw and what I understand was calming him down.
74:28And I think I saw Ollie Gordon say, I screwed up.
74:31I butter fingered up. Uh, so I think Malik Willis, that was like good leadership.
74:36That's what the broadcast was saying on his part.
74:39And this was a little bit what I was concerned about.
74:42Cause the dolphins did get behind, but with Ollie Gordon, cause they just don't throw to him.
74:4819 carries 69 yards. And zero catches. But like, what are you going to do?
74:52I mean, you want running backs. We're getting all that work.
74:56Caleb Douglas got a little bit banged up in the game too.
74:59Yeah. Yeah. He got hurt. And like came back in.
75:02Yeah. Like limped right to the bench. Uh, he, you know, look, not a terrible game for, for rookie wide receiver today.
75:09Caleb Douglas was a hall of famer, four catches, 43 yards on six targets.
75:14And Greg Dulcich continues to get targeted. That's, five to six targets in three straight games.
75:18And, uh, what do they have next week? They have the lions.
75:22Oh, Ooh. Ooh. Start of the week. Greg Dulcich.
75:25Yeah. And, uh, what's the name? The safety got hurt again.
75:28Brian branch. Yeah. Yeah. Branch and want them ran into each other.
75:32Although Kirby Joseph could come back. Branch might come back.
75:35Yeah. But Jack Campbell's probably going to be, you know, the funny thing with those scary neck injuries and the knock on
75:42wood here, but sometimes they're like not bad at all.
75:45Right. Kendall Daniels had, I think Daniels is his last name.
75:48The Falcons linebacker. Right. Right. Right. Got carted off the field and he was back the next week.
75:54Yeah. So we'll keep our fingers crossed for, for Jack Campbell.
75:57All right. Beyond the box score tomorrow morning. We'll recap, uh, this.
76:01I'm going to go out on a limb and say, not a thrilling game between the commanders and Eagles in the second quarter right now, but we'll recap.
76:10It looks good. Who does? Barkley. Barkley has looked good all year, right?
76:14I mean, what a, he's been so good. Like this hasn't necessarily translated a fantasy points.
76:19He had a big catch in this game and he had a touchdown runs.
76:23Yeah. All right. Um, have a great, it's just nice that he's getting carries near the goal line.
76:29That's a good point. Have a good day, everybody.
76:31Good night. Whatever, whenever the heck you're listening. And, we'll talk to you tomorrow on fantasy football.
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