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2:00Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
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2:25We don't know where Heath is. We think he might be stuck in a flood.
2:30Because, man, it's crazy in South Florida, and I didn't really realize how bad it was.
2:35So for all of you listening in that area, I hope everything is okay with you.
2:40And, Jamie, you can talk about it because, man, it's like alligators are swimming around your neighborhood.
2:46There are alligators swimming in neighborhoods. I haven't seen one in my neighborhood yet, but there are alligators swimming in neighborhoods.
2:52It is flooding very badly down here. Nothing that is anything to worry about from a life-threatening standpoint, at least that I haven't seen.
3:00But please be safe. The roads are bad. They're very bad.
3:04Yeah, crazy stuff. All right, so on a brighter note, it's fantasy football time.
3:08It's time to make some trades. We can tell you who we're trading for, who we're trading away.
3:14We've got the Worryometer. On a brighter note, it's Worryometer Wednesday.
3:18We're going to talk about Parker Washington, Saquon Barkley, Chase Brown, Justin Jefferson, Ashton Gentey.
3:23Who else? Emeka Buka and others. And others. Zay Flowers, of course.
3:26You know, I didn't realize Tyler Huntley was going to miss the year.
3:31They were talking about him being, eh, I'm not sure he's going to be able to play on Thursday.
3:37That made me think maybe it'll be a few weeks.
3:40He's out for the season, so that's not so good for Tyler Huntley.
3:44We'll start with the... Obviously, I thought you were going to say it's not Superversay Flowers.
3:49I'm sorry. It's really not good for Tyler Huntley.
3:52Feel bad for him. Basial Tootin not practicing. I saw you updated the waiver wire column.
3:57Did you move up Chris Rodriguez? I did. I did.
4:01I think it's just, you know, reading some of the beat writers' reports.
4:05One in particular, you know, we talked about this guy quite a bit in the preseason.
4:10John Shipley covers the team for, I believe it's USA Today.
4:14And suggesting that, you know, Chris Rodriguez could have a big opportunity in front of him if he gets the opportunity to play.
4:21We'll see. Today's a big day. You know, so my guess is he'll be listed as questionable in terms of Tootin.
4:28And just make sure you have a backup plan.
4:31So Rodriguez would be a borderline top 20 running back if he gets the opportunity to start.
4:36Chris Rodriguez in a game that we're going to preview later today.
4:40Let me see. He has... Oh, shoot. For those of you who are part of the show, Jamie and Thomas.
4:47Oh, sorry. First time I've done that. Jamie and Sam.
4:50You're off to a great start. I sent you the notes today, and I put the wrong game in the notes.
4:57I put my Green Bay, New England preview in the notes.
5:00We're actually going to talk about Jacksonville and Baltimore.
5:03But Chris Rodriguez has like 11 catches in his career or something like that.
5:08So I wonder how... One of them came last week.
5:11Yeah. I wonder how many he'd catch this week if he were the starting running back.
5:16Other news items? I'm going to guess the over-under would probably be one and a half.
5:21What would you take? If he is the starter, I would take the over.
5:26Me too. Tyler Huntley's out for the season. Joe Fignano is going to start this week.
5:31Aaron Glenn said that Brees Hall is our guy.
5:34And then he said, I'm assuming Brees is our guy.
5:37And he said, Braylon Allen is a beast. So we'll see how that situation plays out.
5:42Do you think if you walked down the streets of New York, the streets of Manhattan, with a picture of Joe Fasano?
5:49How do you say his name? Fagnano. Fagnano. Do you think...
5:53How many people... If you ran into 100 people, you showed the picture to 100 people, how many would know who he is?
6:00Zero, including the guy holding it. I don't even know what Joe Fignano looks like.
6:05Well, I mean, he did play at UConn, so there might be some...
6:09Yeah. They don't know. They don't go to the games there.
6:13Come on. Jeremiah Love is on IR. Tyler Algier is now the most added player, up to 77% roster.
6:19Don't forget. I have a feeling we're going to get the wrong guy.
6:23Yeah. Actually, Zonovan Knight's on the most dropped list.
6:26He has gone from 55% to 49%. I know he has the concussion.
6:30That's usually a zero-to-one-week absence. And this is at least a four-week absence for Jeremiah Love.
6:36It actually could be six. Mm-hmm. Right. Because they have their bye.
6:40Yeah. But I think they said five- to six-week injury.
6:43So if I have the... Their bye is week 14.
6:46Mm-hmm. And the four-game window is week 13? Yes.
6:49He has to miss weeks 9, 10, 11, 12.
6:52So he could come back in week 13. Correct.
6:55And then their bye is week 14. So you would assume that they may just be cautious with it and he may sit through the bye.
7:03Yeah. Absolutely. And... But their playoff schedule is great.
7:06What's their record, you know? What's the incentive to bring him back if he's not 100% healthy?
7:12I mean, I think you want to see what you have in your first-round pick.
7:16But yeah, Zonovan Knight, I wouldn't say that you must...
7:20I would add him. I wouldn't let him be unrostered in any of my leagues.
7:24The way that I rewrote it in the column was that don't be surprised if not Zonovan Knight is better.
7:31You might get a one-week window of Tyler Algier being better.
7:35But for the majority of the time that Love is out, Knight averaged 10-something PPR points.
7:40Just shy of 11 PPR points in the two games that Love missed.
7:44Algier was like 7.5. 6.5. Yep. I'm going to give you the stat one last time.
7:49Second quarter, Bam Knight played 16 snaps. Tyler Algier played four.
7:53And of those four snaps, let's see how many came.
7:56I don't think any of them came after the Knight injury.
7:59But 16 snaps to four for Knight. And then Knight got hurt.
8:03Jeremy McNichols is on IR, which I think is helpful for Rashad White.
8:08Instead of it being a three-way split, it'll be a two-way split.
8:11Tell them for Eckler, too. Absolutely. I was about to say, you know, I'm very desperate for running back in a league.
8:19And I don't know if I got him. I don't know if we ran waivers last night.
8:24But I put in a bid for Austin Eckler.
8:27And the Raiders could apparently go with the hot hand at running back.
8:31You know, let's take a look before Heath gets here at the most traded list, Jamie.
8:36And Ollie Gordon is the most traded player. I'm going to give you some guys.
8:41And you just tell me, generally speaking, are you buying or selling?
8:45Ollie Gordon as the most traded player? I'd be selling.
8:48Mostly because of picking him up off waivers with the hope that I had other players on my team.
8:54Yeah. Okay. But not because we think he's going to be bad.
8:58Correct. And Chase Brown is the second most traded player.
9:02I'd be buying. Would you rather have Gordon or Brown?
9:05Brown. Josh Jacobs is the third most traded player.
9:08Understandable. Trying to get something for him before something trade or suspension happens.
9:12I had a trade offer in an analyst league.
9:15It's a dynasty league. So somebody who was tanking offered me Josh Jacobs and Jordan Mason.
9:20This was prior to last week. Josh Jacobs, Jordan Mason for Deshaun Stribbling and my first round pick.
9:26And I said no. This is an old dynasty league, you said?
9:30It's a dynasty league. At the time, I was in first place.
9:34I'm now in second place. I'm sorry. I'm now in third place.
9:37Had a terrible loss. I actually lost to the team that tried to make me the trade and was tanking and tanking very poorly.
9:45Because that set a very good lineup. I said, I rejected the offer.
9:49I said, I'll give you Stribbling for Jacobs if you'd like.
9:53I'll take the chance on Jacobs still playing. But my concern is that he doesn't finish the season.
9:59And the manager said no. I'm going to give you some actual trades that have happened in our leagues.
10:05Who wins this trade? Our leagues or CBS leagues?
10:08CBS leagues. Gotcha. Nico Collins for Josh Jacobs. The Nico side.
10:11Ali Gordon for Josh Jacobs. I'll say for now, the Jacobs side.
10:15Jordan Love for Josh Jacobs. The Jacobs side. Matthew Golden for Josh Jacobs.
10:20The Golden side. DJ Moore for Josh Jacobs. For now, the Moore side.
10:24If Jacobs doesn't get suspended any further, I'd take him over Nico Collins and DJ Moore.
10:29Sure. But you would not. It's pretty close though, I assume.
10:32I mean, I'm factoring in the potential suspension or trade.
10:36Yeah. Justin Jefferson for Josh Jacobs. Jefferson. He's the third.
10:39He's the fourth most traded player. And he's going to be on our worryometer later.
10:44Oh, you know what? I'm curious to see because Omari and Hampton is the sixth most traded player or fifth most traded player.
10:51Let me go to his trade page. What the heck are people getting for Omari and Hampton right now?
10:57Let's see. Braylon Allen for Omari and Hampton. I mean, if you fear that Brees Hall is just taking over the job, then I don't know.
11:06I'd still rather have Braylon Allen. Me too. Jonah Coleman for Omari and Hampton.
11:10No way. Take Coleman, right? No way. Romo Doonze for Omari and Hampton.
11:15No, I'd rather have Odoonze. He looks good the last two weeks.
11:18How about Woody Marks for Omari and Hampton? I'd rather have Marks.
11:22Even though Montgomery could be back this week. Yeah, I mean, we don't know that Montgomery is getting the lead rollback.
11:29I don't know who the hell I would give up to get Omari and Hampton.
11:34I can't think of a single player on my roster.
11:37I think if you picked up a Cardinals running back and you wanted to see their end of season schedule isn't as brutal.
11:45Yeah, I think if I had a backup quarterback or something, I might trade for Omari and Hampton.
11:50No, I mean, like I don't need a quarterback.
11:53Yeah, I get it. Yeah. You know, maybe something like that.
11:57All right. Let's get to you. I have two leagues where I drafted Hampton either first or second round.
12:03One, I'm in second place and one, I'm absolutely, it's a disgusting team.
12:07Disgusting bad? It's all bad. Yeah. I only have one Hampton team and it was one of my favorite teams.
12:14I have A.J. Brown and Omari and Hampton. We're not doing so great.
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12:36It was fun. Trade talk. Jamie's buys. Jamie sells.
12:39And we'll talk about Heath's whether he is able to get in or not.
12:43But, Jamie, you want to buy Jalen Coker and Caleb Douglas.
12:47And Jamie's moving away from buy low, sell high.
12:50Although, there'll be some of that. But just players he wants to acquire.
12:54Jalen Coker, Caleb Douglas. I mean, look, Coker's had a couple of bad games recently.
12:59And mediocre games recently. I know he scored a touchdown last week.
13:03But I still think there's plenty of love about the situation.
13:06And clearly the Panthers are trying to, you know, tweak some things and make things work.
13:11You know, changing defensive coaches, you know, changing some things on the offensive side of the ball.
13:17The offensive line is going to be a work in progress.
13:20So we'll see how that goes. But they've just run into a little bit of a tough stretch of games.
13:27And I think Coker's still going to, you know, get his opportunities as targets.
13:31This is a very concentrated offense where you know that McMillan and Coker are going to lead the team in targets every week.
13:39The majority of weeks, I should say. And I still think that Bryce Young can get things right, at least to a
13:46point where, you know, they're going to be heavily involved and still productive.
13:50So clearly the value is down at this point.
13:53And I think there's still a lot to love about Coker's situation.
13:57For Douglas, the schedule is just amazing coming up.
14:00And, you know, you said it on Tuesday show, I guess it had to be Tuesday show, just how good he looks.
14:07Like he just, he looks the part of what could be an alpha type receiver.
14:12And I think he's a playmaker. As we saw in the Jets game, he gets the Jets coming up in a few weeks.
14:19This week's matchup against Detroit is very favorable. And so I'm hoping that we see some shootouts for the Dolphins because like
14:26this week against Detroit, I think Detroit will put up points against them.
14:31Six targets last week in a tough matchup against New England.
14:34I think there's going to be a lot of big games coming for him.
14:39And this is a guy you can get cheap, you know.
14:42So I tried to find someone that you could probably get off somebody's bench that's not going to cost you a lot.
14:49Especially, you know, coming off a little bit of a disappointing game for a guy that missed three games early this season with an ankle injury.
14:58So I would be trying to trade for Caleb Douglas if you need receiver help.
15:03For Coker, how much does it concern you that three of his next five games are against Denver, Tampa Bay, and Minnesota?
15:10It's not ideal. But you're still going to get probably seven targets a game.
15:14So I think you just treat him as a number three receiver as opposed to a must-star guy.
15:20But again, somebody you're going to get cheap at this point.
15:24And there's the thing with this team, the Panthers.
15:27It's like they've had two pretty concerning offensive games in a row.
15:30And yeah, I'm not worried about it, right? You know, I'm a little concerned.
15:35Tampa Bay is a good defense. Green Bay is a good defense.
15:39Tenth best. And then they've got Denver this week.
15:42So if you want to believe in Coker and McMillan and maybe even Young bouncing back, you've got to be willing to
15:49accept a bad game in week nine. I'm not guaranteeing that's going to happen.
15:53But they're playing Denver. Their offensive line has been a little shaky the last couple weeks.
15:59And now you've got this pass rush. So you might have to be patient.
16:03But Coker, you would think, would be a little more immune to it because he plays in the slot.
16:09He's not going downfield as much as... He's not going to see Sertan.
16:13McMillan. Yeah. I don't even know if I want to start McMillan this week.
16:18I think I'm looking forward to talking about that one.
16:21Okay. And then you want to sell a couple of running backs, Mike Washington Jr.
16:26and Brees Hall. I think both relative to the obvious why.
16:30You know, you just gave the comment about what Frank Reich said.
16:33And clearly Braylon Allen has looked great. So he's coming back to some level of a timeshare.
16:39Whether that's 50-50, 60-40, you know, I would think in his favor.
16:43But, you know, some level of timeshare. And whatever Braylon Allen's going to do is going to impact Brees Hall.
16:49So there's also potential trade that could happen between now and next Tuesday.
16:54I'd be surprised if they did that. But that's something that could still happen.
16:58I just think you're looking at a guy whose name is going to carry some weight.
17:03And as we've said time and time again, you can trade.
17:07You can get more in trade from giving away running backs, if that makes sense.
17:12You can get more back from trading away running backs that have the potential to still be, I think, top 20 caliber guys.
17:19I think that's still within the range of possibilities for Brees Hall.
17:23I saw you put Brees Hall on the trading block in one of our leagues last night.
17:28And I was like, good luck, man. Because I haven't had any luck trying to trade him.
17:34I think people are genuinely concerned about Brees Hall.
17:37I'll look up some trades that have happened involving Brees Hall in CBS leagues.
17:41But I'm really nervous about him. I really think Braylon Allen is...
17:45I'm going to give Braylon Allen a 51% chance to be the goal line back.
17:50That's fair. Yeah. And it could also be a situation where in the first game or two, with them both playing together, Allen is even better.
17:59I think if I saw correctly, and I could be wrong, both Heath and Dave have Allen ranked ahead of Hall.
18:05This week? This week. Okay. No, I'm not there yet.
18:09But I still think Brees Hall could be a top 20 guy.
18:12You hear that sound? Is that Heath? Oh, no.
18:15I thought it was Heath. It'll be Heath. Next time you hear that, boop.
18:20He's on his way. He's on his way. He's on his way.
18:24And then in the case of Mike Washington, this is the easiest guy to try and flip if you can because everybody's trying to spend fab on him.
18:33He just had 25 carries. Don't know if that's going to happen again.
18:37And obviously, Ashton Gentry's still healthy. So whatever you can get in return for him, I would try and do so.
18:44Not giving him away, but this is an easy sell-high candidate.
18:47I want to contribute somehow to the show. So I have a couple of guys.
18:52I think it's hard to buy low right now.
18:55I'm more interested in buying high, but I think there's a couple of guys that I can make a good case for as buy lows.
19:03So I'm going to do that when we come back.
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22:36I feel like you're going to agree with me.
22:39Chase Brown has one touchdown. He doesn't have a touchdown since week one.
22:43He had one call back in week eight. I'm not saying there are no red flags here.
22:49It's five straight games with no more than 13 carries.
22:52I don't think he's going to be great as a rusher.
22:56But I also don't think that Samaj P. Ryan is the goal linebacker.
23:00Not to say that he won't mix in there at some point, but that one-yard touchdown run P.
23:06Ryan had, I'm not too concerned about it. We're also talking about a guy who's getting six targets a game in Chase Brown.
23:13If you take away the game that Jamar Chase left with an injury, it's five targets a game.
23:19That's still really good. If he catches 80% of those, which he should, four catches a game, that's 68 catches in a year.
23:26So I like Chase Brown. I think this is going to be the low point for him.
23:32You've got Atlanta this week. They give up the fourth most fantasy points to running back.
23:37I think we've passed the low point. Well, he did score 16.1 points, but I think people are still fine.
23:43I still think this is, it's only going to go up from here, his value.
23:48I don't think you're wrong in what you're saying.
23:51I just think the low point was the Miami game when Samaj P.
23:55Ryan out-snapped him. Fair enough. But you still have a chance to buy low.
24:00The other guy is Parker Washington. Wait. And, you know, my concern with Parker Washington is that he's got four touchdowns this year.
24:07They've all been like sort of spectacular. But I'm concerned about them blowing out some teams on their schedule.
24:13I mean, their next four games are Baltimore, Tennessee, the Giants, and Tennessee.
24:18Tennessee's been pretty competitive. The Giants are in first place.
24:21I don't think they blow out all of them.
24:24There could be two blowouts here. And the thing is, this team, the Jaguars are like 25th in pass rate.
24:30So something like that. So when they start pulling away, they are not throwing a lot.
24:35Do you want to hear something crazy? Heath's here?
24:38That is pretty crazy. Heath, does he swim here?
24:41Yes. It's a little wet. This is from the Action Network.
24:45Okay. I'm sorry. Action News in Jacksonville. Excuse me.
24:48His name is Daniel Griffiths. Griffiths. G-R-I-F-F-I-S. From the Action News Network in Jacksonville.
24:52Trevor Lawrence has been pulled early in eight of the last Jaguars' 15 games.
24:57Wow. He has missed a total in those times that he's been pulled.
25:01A total of 89 minutes. Man, that's wild. That's a great stat.
25:05Yeah. So I think my basic argument for him is just he's too good.
25:09He's awesome. And he'll get his production, Parker Washington I'm talking about here, Heath.
25:14And I would buy low on him, even though I know it's like four of the last five games really haven't been that good.
25:22So this is a great opportunity to buy low.
25:25Who is the NFL MVP right now? Yeah. It's funny you say that because last night I was thinking that he doesn't
25:32have the numbers right now, but Trevor Lawrence probably is a top five candidate.
25:36Oh, he's definitely in the top five. I think it's got to be Allen, Purdy, Burrow, Lawrence, Mahomes, and Burrow.
25:43Burrow. That's a good five. Yeah. I'd probably vote Purdy today.
25:46McCarthy? No? Not McCarthy? Maybe. Maybe. Is your street underwater?
25:50Parts. Parts. Not entirely. Yeah. We've got a pretty well-draining area.
25:53I think the school, like some of the schools, I guess probably you know this, canceled.
25:58My wife did not. Two of my kids' schools have been canceled, I guess.
26:03So I think my wife was kayaking through the parking lot to get to the front door of the school.
26:09Good times. Were your kids off of school yesterday?
26:12For election day, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's two days in a row?
26:16Man, that's tough. You got an election day off and then a rain day.
26:21Yeah. Like not, back in my day, we just went to school when it rained.
26:25I don't get, I mean, I never went to, I don't think I had election day off, but they vote at my
26:33kids' school, so I get why they had election day off.
26:36Tough for parents. All right, Heath, let's talk about your trade targets.
26:40You want to buy high on Jonah Coleman. Do you still want to buy low on Zay Flowers now that Huntley's out for the year?
26:48Yes. I just simply refuse to believe that they are going to go with Joe Fignano the rest of the way or
26:55anybody of these other names of quarterbacks that 75% of NFL fans have never heard of.
27:00I think that we, like, this is probably on a short week.
27:04Wasn't enough time to get anybody ready anyway, but I think after the Thursday game, they make a move and get somebody
27:11that's not good, but probably not worse than Huntley.
27:14And Zay Flowers will still be a wide receiver, too.
27:18Okay. Yeah, I have some data to support your case.
27:21Just kind of looking at wide receivers who have been on horrible offenses over the last three seasons and where they have finished and where the hell is.
27:30Okay. Best wide receivers on a team that was bottom five in gross passing yards per game last three seasons.
27:36Three years ago, we didn't really have anyone good.
27:39Well, I'm sorry. I was waiting for you to say Zay Flowers all three years.
27:44Last year, Zay Flowers. Yeah, he was he was on a team that was fifth worst in gross passing yards per game or fifth lowest.
27:52I should say any average 14.7 PPR points per game, which is good.
27:56It's not good. Probably not good enough to win the bet, but it's good.
28:01Three years ago, there was nobody really. Two years ago, we had five wide receivers average 14 or more PPR fantasy points.
28:08That would be Adam Thielen, AJ Brown, Devante Smith, Malik Neighbors and DJ Moore.
28:13And not all of them were like really great or must-start.
28:16In fact, only I would say only Neighbors and AJ Brown were must-start guys.
28:21Devante Smith got his production, I think, a lot when AJ Brown or Dallas Goddard were out.
28:26But either way, you'd say Devante Smith was close to a must-start for the full season, but it was kind of split
28:33based on who was in or out. But you did have five wide receivers average 14 or more PPR fantasy points on bottom five passing offenses in 2024.
28:42And last year, we had Garrett Wilson in his six healthy games was awesome.
28:47And the Jets were terrible. I mean, the Jets averaged 175 passing yards per game in the first six games of the year.
28:54Garrett Wilson was a top 12 wide receiver. Harold Fannin was tight end eight last year on the Browns.
29:00Justin Jefferson was bad. Zay Flowers was a good example of 14.7 points per game.
29:05And you think about the great game that he had with Tyler Huntley.
29:09It's not like Tyler Huntley did something great in that game.
29:13Like the big play, he caught at the line of scrimmage.
29:17So I am more encouraged just to transition to the other guy on the Ravens I put on the list.
29:23I'd be more likely to sell low on Derrick Henry, whereas I'm trying to buy low on Zay Flowers.
29:29It's three straight games with 60 scrimmage yards or fewer.
29:32I don't think whoever they add at quarterback is going to open up the rushing lanes for him.
29:38And they're going to lose a lot of games.
29:41He's bad in losses. And they're not going to score a lot of touchdowns.
29:46And he needs touchdowns. If Devontae Smith does not play another game, who wins the bet?
29:51Zay Flowers. Assuming that he plays in the fantasy playoffs.
29:54He's going to have to average more than 17 points per game from here on out.
29:59No. If Devontae Smith doesn't play another game, then Zay Flowers wins the total season.
30:04Devontae Smith wins the per game. The tiebreaker was the fantasy playoffs.
30:08If Devontae Smith doesn't play, then Zay Flowers wins the bet.
30:12You made too many. You are on air agreeing to that.
30:15So shut up. You just made too many of the terms here.
30:19I think the bet should be thrown out. I think we should both donate $500 to St.
30:25Jude and just throw the bet out. This is not representative of who these players are or were supposed to be.
30:31Okay. 100% is. They're both on a fair game basis having a career year.
30:36Yeah, but I mean going forward, it's not representative of what.
30:39Okay, look. I tried. It didn't work. Heath. All right.
30:43So Heath wants to buy low on Zay Flowers.
30:46Buy high on Jonah Coleman. Yeah, I just think.
30:48I mean, first off, the Broncos schedule is fantastic in the second half of the season.
30:54I don't think there is any. Like, even Sean Payton isn't going to mess this up.
30:59There's just a huge gap between what Jonah Coleman can do and what J.K.
31:03Dobbins can do right now with the football in their hands.
31:07R.J. Harvey and Tyler Bidet are both on IR, so they can't mess it up for a little while.
31:13And I think by the time they get back, Coleman will be established as just the clear R.B.
31:19one on this team. He's a top 20 running back this week and rest of the season, and he may be a
31:26game or two away from us talking about him in the top 15.
31:30Jonah Coleman played more snaps in terms of percentage last week than R.J.
31:34Harvey or J.K. Dobbins have played in any game this season.
31:38He played 66% of the snaps. Would you rather have Derrick Henry or Jonah Coleman rest of the season?
31:44Coleman. J.M. Today I would say Coleman, but I want to see what the quarterback situation is.
31:50Like, if they get Mac Jones, for example, like if they overpay the 49ers and get Mac Jones, or if they get
31:57Jacoby Brissett, I think that will be okay for the Ravens.
32:00Like, there are some scenarios here where the offense can be saved.
32:04Yeah, I agree. I just think that those, like, I might be more excited if the Chiefs are, like, have bought into
32:11their rookie and decide, let's send them Justin Fields.
32:14Then at least maybe that will help the rushing efficiency for the Ravens offense.
32:19I'm not sure Jacoby's going to help that. He was not throwing the ball down the field.
32:24It's just going to be nine guys to line a scrimmage every play.
32:28So, don't forget, though, with Jonah Coleman that the Broncos reportedly are in the Jonathan Taylor sweepstakes.
32:34That's the biggest factor is that I don't know why.
32:37I mean, you have a running back on a rookie deal.
32:41You still have J.K. Dobbins for the rest of this season who, you know, it's not like he was terrible.
32:47And they were dealing with a very difficult schedule, which was part of this.
32:52Plus, you still have R.J. Harvey coming back at some point.
32:55Like, I get Jonathan Taylor makes you better totally from an NFL standpoint.
33:00Just doesn't also make sense that you're going to overpay and, you know, ruin your future for a position that's not exactly a huge need for you.
33:08All right. So, oh, sorry. We do have a little breaking news from Adam Schefter that Brandon Ayuk has turned in his
33:15paperwork and will be reporting to the 49ers facility on Friday.
33:19They're going to let him in? That as soon as he shows up, they got to start paying him or they got to cut him.
33:27Yeah. Well, the NFL has to reinstate him or no?
33:30Yes. And they will. He's well, I don't know.
33:33I don't remember him having anything that would prevent that.
33:36Yeah. Right. No, I guess you're right. OK, so it's a recap.
33:40And we still have one more player to talk about here.
33:44To recap, Jamie says by Jalen Coker and Caleb Douglas sell Mike Washington Jr.
33:48and Brees Hall. Heath says by Jonah Coleman. Sell Derek Henry and buy Zay Flowers.
33:53And sell Isaiah Likely. Yeah, I just think. And I wish I would have said sell Isaiah Likely three weeks ago.
34:00I'm just not confident the same target volume is going to be there with J.J.
34:05McCarthy for him as it was with Jameis Winston.
34:08It looked like it was going to be with Jackson Dart.
34:11I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
34:15But the nice thing now is one, the bye week's over.
34:18So you can use that as a selling point.
34:21Two, we're a week removed from the worst production.
34:24So you can just point to that season long scoring average and hope that you can get somebody to buy him as
34:31a top four or five tight end. I still think he'll be a starter.
34:36Like, I don't think we're ever going to be replacing Isaiah Likely.
34:40But I don't think he's going to be the difference maker he was early in the season.
34:45He's had a 13% and a 14.3% target per route run rate with J.J.
34:50McCarthy. That translates to a 16% target share in about in five quarters with J.J.
34:55McCarthy, which is a super small sample size. But yeah, we did talk about this a week ago.
35:00McCarthy's been throwing a Malachi Fields a decent amount and not to Isaiah Likely.
35:05Obviously, we expect Likely to have more targets than Fields.
35:08It's not set in stone, but we expect that.
35:11But yeah, it's a little bit of a trend to watch.
35:15So you'd go Isaiah Likely for a struggle. Oh, I think Sam Laporta is a good buy low too.
35:21He has faced the last two games have been against Minnesota and Green Bay, by the way.
35:26And they are number one and number two against tight ends right now.
35:31So I would think better times are ahead. He had a 20% target share in week eight.
35:36Laporta did after like a 5% target share in week seven.
35:40Anywho, what's the difference between Likely and Laporta? What would you want with Laporta to get Likely?
35:45Or if you're giving up Likely, you'd want Laporta and?
35:48And upgrade at another position. Laporta and? I don't even need a starter at another position.
35:54I'll give you a worse wide receiver two for a better wide receiver two.
35:58Laporta and Caleb Douglas. Really? I don't think there's a single rookie wide receiver other than Carnell Tate that I feel like
36:05I'm going to be confident putting in my lineup on a weekly basis.
36:09Oh, you'll be confident about two weeks every month.
36:12And those are the weeks they're bad. Also, I'm just so...
36:16It'll be a good week for Fields because he had a good one before the buy.
36:21So he's got another one coming this week. Perfect.
36:24I'm really glad Johnny Airport. Thomas stuck around. In high school, Adam was voted most likely to back out of a deal.
36:31That's awesome. So I think I forgot to mention Carnell Tate.
36:35You could argue he's got the best schedule of any player.
36:38And I'm saying that without really knowing everyone's schedule.
36:41But here's where his upcoming opponents rank against wide receivers.
36:44Carnell Tate. 27th, 26th, 27th, 21st, 29th, 7th, 22nd, and 9th.
36:48Now, I would say that with Jacksonville, two of the next three games being against Jacksonville, I think Travis Hunter's a very good cornerback.
36:56I saw him shadow Nico Collins and do a really good job.
37:00Do they shadow Carnell Tate with Travis Hunter? It's possible.
37:03But wide receivers are putting up numbers against the Jaguars.
37:06If you look at Detroit in five weeks, they could be healthier.
37:10And by the way, Detroit's been much better the last three weeks.
37:14They haven't been the layup that we've been hoping for.
37:17So I think Tate's schedule might be kind of fool's gold.
37:21But Cam Ward is coming off arguably the best game of his career.
37:25Carnell Tate's coming off a bad game and a bye.
37:28So another guy you might want to buy. Not like don't think he's going to win you your league.
37:34But can he get 14 fantasy points per game?
37:37I think he could, which is right around RB 20.
37:40Who will be the best rookie wide receiver by the end of the season?
37:45Him. I don't even know who else it would be.
37:48Oh, there's lots of candidates. I forgot about Tyson, yeah.
37:51I say Tate, though. Well, I mean, another couple of big games from Omar Cooper.
37:56He might run away with it. Makai Lemon's emerging.
37:59No. Antonio Williams? No. I mean, you're very dismissive of these guys.
38:03I'm joking. Caleb Douglas? Is anyone in a better setup than Tate, though?
38:07Definitely not. Oh, I think Tyson is if he's healthy.
38:10He's got a lobby to deal with. Yeah, but the volume could be amazing.
38:15Who is currently the number one rookie wide receiver in fantasy points per game?
38:19Points per game? Yeah. Is this dribbling? No. Oh.
38:22Hmm. I'm going to say Tate. Yeah. Bernard? Omar Cooper.
38:26Really? Caleb Douglas is second. Carnell Tate's third. Let's go to a quick break, and when we come back, we'll talk about Jackson.
38:33Who's the best rookie running back? What would you say?
38:36Best rookie running back? Coleman? Yeah. So, looking. I mean, you have to scroll.
38:41Let's do a tease. Please. Okay. Okay. When we come back, the best rookie running back and the easiest game of the week to preview after this.
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41:08Place your bets. Jamie, who's the number one rookie running back per game?
41:12Jonah Coleman. I agree. Heath? And it's not really close.
41:15Yeah. I was trying to think. You know, at the end of the year, I do the superlatives.
41:21Like, there's no rookie quarterbacks. We'll have a couple of rookie-wide receivers that emerge and have great second halves.
41:27The receivers, I think, are okay. You know, it's funny because we were kind of downplaying this class as potentially terrible.
41:34And I think we've gotten two games, but some pockets of success for these guys.
41:39The running backs by the end of the season, my guess will be Coleman.
41:44And it's not going to be Jeremiah Love. It could be Jadarian Price.
41:48Hey, guess who's here? Could be Mike Washington. Jacob Gibbs.
41:51Jacob is here. Hello, Jacob. Hey, everybody. What's up?
41:54How are we doing? He's been reinstated like Brandon Ayuk.
41:57He's going to be in this? Welcome back. What was this Ayuk stuff?
42:01He's back. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know if I want to be compared to Ayuk.
42:07I feel like I have better work ethic. No, no.
42:10I just met. You're back. He's being traded to the Chiefs.
42:13That would be very exciting for me, actually. All right.
42:17Jacob's going to help us talk about Jacksonville and Baltimore, then the Worryometer, and then whatever the heck he wants to talk about to end the show.
42:25Let's talk Jacksonville, Baltimore. I said it's the easiest game to preview, but I actually don't.
42:30I think that's a really stupid take. Concern of the game.
42:34Does Jacksonville throw enough when they win by 14 or more points?
42:38If they win by 14 or more points. I think they're 10 and a half point favorites.
42:43Well, they haven't had a game where they've won by like 14.
42:47They have three games where they've won by 24 or more points.
42:51And in those three games, they've thrown 23, 29, and 17 passes.
42:55So, you know, you could see this being a low pass volume game for Lawrence.
43:00And then here's cool stat, Hansel. Since week four, Brenton Strange is second among tight ends in target per out run rate behind TJ Hawkinson.
43:08That is pretty cool, Hansel. All right. Anyway, Jamie, I'll give you Jacksonville.
43:12J for Jacksonville. J for Jamie. Who do you like in this game?
43:16Start Trevor Lawrence. Start Basial Tootin if he plays.
43:19Start Chris Rodriguez if Basial Tootin is out. Start Parker Washington.
43:23Brenton Strange is a good streaming tight end. If you're desperate, Jacoby Myers.
43:27Okay. Trevor Lawrence or Dak Prescott at the Colts?
43:30Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence or Jaden Daniels against the Rams?
43:33Lawrence. Lawrence or Stafford? Lawrence. Lawrence or Love at New England?
43:36Lawrence. Does anyone disagree? Not with those names. He's my QB six.
43:40So there's five guys I would start over Trevor Lawrence.
43:44But he's pretty much a must-start quarterback that hopefully gets it done.
43:47In the first three quarters. Who are your five guys ahead of him?
43:52I have Burrow, Purdy, Goff, May, Allen. I would start Lawrence over Allen this week.
43:57Allen at Minnesota Monday night. Okay. Jacob, if Basial Tootin doesn't play, where are you going to rank Chris Rodriguez against the Ravens?
44:04Yeah, pretty high. Heath, what do you think about Patrick Mahomes over Trevor Lawrence?
44:09I think I have them back-to-back in the rankings and less than a half a point apart in the projections.
44:15And so flip a coin. Okay. Yeah, so I have Basial Tootin easily as a top 10 guy.
44:21Actually, I'm a top five guy if he plays.
44:24I think if he's out, Chris Rodriguez pushes up into that top 15-ish range.
44:28I think it drops off pretty hard after that.
44:31So he'd be like right behind Chase Brown, Jonah Coleman for me this week.
44:36Okay. Baltimore's got a good run defense. I will give them that.
44:403.8 yards per carry to running backs. Eighth best against the position.
44:43Second fewest receiving yards per game allowed. James Cook just had 21 carries for 80 yards and a touchdown and two catches for 21 yards.
44:52He had a very good game, but it wasn't exactly the easiest game for him.
44:56And then for Parker Washington, would you guys start Parker Washington or Jonah Coleman this week?
45:02Coleman. Yep. Fair enough, yeah. Parker Washington or Chris Rodriguez if Basial Tootin were out?
45:06Washington. Yeah. Yep. Where do you have Washington? 20?
45:09Round 18? Yeah, I have him very high again.
45:1216. Where do you have Zay Flowers? I have Zay at 21.
45:1624? I think I couldn't get the projections to work on Zay Flowers.
45:20It does not compute. It does not compute. So I just put him at 24.
45:25All right. Would you start someone like Quinchan Judkins at the Saints over Zay Flowers?
45:30Not in PPR. Okay. Would you start Derek Henry or Zay Flowers?
45:34Henry. Yeah, I mean, Zay Flowers had zero touches.
45:37So it's hard to say to start him over any of these running backs that could have 20.
45:43I think that he has a better chance of creating a long play than these guys.
45:48Like, he's fine to start if you need upside.
45:51But yeah, I do see him kind of similar to Parker Washington where it's like kind of nothing or a big play and that's it.
45:59I would start Zay over Henry and full PPR Henry in the other two formats.
46:04How would you rank Ollie Gordon? This is just for the Henry conversation.
46:08This is the first game without Jacksonville's interior defensive lineman.
46:11Yeah, right. Devon Hamilton. He plays about 50% of the snaps.
46:15He played 18% of the snaps last week. They rotate guys a lot.
46:19That's a potential problem when everybody's healthy. It's not a problem when you're missing guys.
46:24But like that's a big piece of their defense.
46:27Yeah, I mean, last week they played the Jaguars.
46:30I mean, yeah, they played the Colts and held Jonathan Taylor to eight carries for 23 yards.
46:35And Hamilton barely played in that game. So it is possible that they're going to have a very good run defense even without him.
46:43You know, you look at the Commanders, for example, and I'm not sure I buy it going forward.
46:49But the Commanders played last week against Barkley, who's been great all year, did a great job against him.
46:55They did that without two starting defensive tackles. So it might be a scheme thing.
47:00You know, it might be more than just one.
47:03It's just like I'm not so down on Derek Henry just because of the Jacksonville run defense.
47:08Like it's been three bad weeks in a row, and I just don't think the team can.
47:14The offensive line is awful. Well, he scored last week.
47:17He scored 14 points. He has 60 yards from scrimmage or fewer in three straight games.
47:22He's not going to. I mean, they're 10 and a half point underdogs.
47:26He's not going to run that much. Well, he might not run that much.
47:31I agree. I'm terrified. I give you four points.
47:34And by the way, one thing that might help him.
47:37Joe Fignano had a 33% running back target rate last week.
47:40That's was eight flowers in the backfield. Yeah. And Justice Hill had eight targets.
47:45So I know you got to be super desperate, but I just want to throw him out.
47:50He's like a worse version of Dylan Sampson. He usually gets three to four targets every week.
47:56And then he had eight last week for Fignano, you know, and again, they're going to be probably trailing.
48:02You know what? We could probably we got to talk about Brenton Strange here.
48:07Brenton Strange getting a ton of targets, except for last week when Trevor Lawrence had 14 pass attempts.
48:12Ravens are, you know, they gave up four catches, 86 yards and a touchdown to Kincaid last week.
48:18So it's not like a matchup to avoid necessarily.
48:21Jacob, where do you have Brenton Strange? Behind Eli Raridon?
48:24Oh, wow. I think he's a decent enough start, but I don't see him as like significantly different than a lot of
48:32these guys you could pick up off the waiver wire like Chico Conqua or Raridon.
48:36Anyone have him high? Yeah. I think there's a better outcome for him.
48:41I mean, Raridon is taking on one of the toughest matchups of the week with the Packers.
48:46You know, so I think Strange to hope to see a little bit more concentrated targets for the Jaguars last week was,
48:53you know, somewhat of a no pun intended Strange outcome for them.
48:57So this, you know, look, you never like to attach these type of intangibles because you don't know what's going to happen.
49:04But this is an MVP spotlight game for Trevor Lawrence.
49:07So if he comes out and has a big performance here, which he could, wouldn't shock me if that's something Liam Cohen does.
49:15He seems like that type of coach. So I wouldn't be surprised if it's, you know, hey, go have a big game, especially if Tune's not there.
49:24Like this is going to be a Trevor Lawrence game.
49:27All right. Would you start Brenton Strange or by the way, it's just the other thing on Raridon is we don't know
49:34that Hunter Henry is going to be out. So his status is uncertain, according to Mike Vrabel.
49:39So it's just something to keep in mind here.
49:42Would you start Travis Kelsey against the Jets or Brenton Strange?
49:46Kelsey. Kelsey. Strange. Dallas Goddard against the Giants or Brenton Strange?
49:49Goddard. The difference for me is all these offenses could drop back 40, 45 times.
49:54And that's, I just, I tied in particularly. I want route volume and it just bothers me to use Strange on the Jags.
50:02He has as many games with two or three targets as he does more than five.
50:07I just don't know if the Chiefs in particular, since we did Kelsey, have very much of a potential to drop back 40 times against the Jets.
50:16All right. They're almost as big a favorite as the Jags are.
50:20All right. Let's get some chat questions here real quick.
50:23Strange or Isaiah Likely? Likely. Burrow or Prince? Burrow.
50:26Burrow. QB1. Parker Washington or Stefan Diggs against the Rams?
50:29Washington. Washington. Parker Washington, Nico Collins, Jonah Coleman, Luther Burden, T.
50:33Higgins. You need to sit two. Parker Washington, Nico Coleman, Luther Burden, T.
50:37Higgins. I'm going to sit Washington and Burden. I would sit Washington.
50:41Burden, that's fine. Yeah. I think that's right. All right.
50:44A lot of great players. I would sit Washington and Burden.
50:47Malik Willis or Trevor Lawrence? We're going Trevor Lawrence.
50:50Parker Washington or Jalen Coker against the Broncos? Washington.
50:53Yeah. I'm going Coker. I asked this one about 10 minutes ago, but it's been a while.
50:59So Lawrence or Jordan Love? Lawrence. Yeah. Yep. Parker Washington or Nico Collins?
51:03You guys basically just pick Nico Collins. Mm-hmm. Parker Washington or Luther Burden?
51:07You guys just pick Parker Washington. I have Luther.
51:10Oh. No, Washington wasn't part of the previous one.
51:13Yeah. I have Burden also. Yeah. Burden over Washington.
51:16My bad. Oh, who was it then? Yeah, it was.
51:19It was Nico. I thought you guys said- We picked Coleman over both of them.
51:24We said sit Washington and Burden. Sit Washington and Burden.
51:27Okay. My bad. Gentier Flowers? Gentier. This is one where I think I would go with Flowers because we don't know if Gentier's getting 20 plus touches.
51:36They may have the same amount of catches this week.
51:39Yeah. Ravens or Giants? Giants. And Derek Henry or Zach Charbonnet?
51:43Oh, gosh. Henry. Henry. Yeah. All right. That's it for Thursday Night Football.
51:47Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Oh, it starts the Jaguars DST. Let's get out the Worry-O-Meter.
51:51Zero to 100 on the Worry-O-Meter. The first one is four players.
51:55All on Eli's team. Eli says Worry-O-Meter on AJ Brown, Parker Washington, Zay Flowers, and Jonathan Taylor.
52:00I will ask you to rank them most worried to least worried.
52:04AJ Brown, Parker Washington, Zay Flowers, Jonathan Taylor. Most worried is easily AJ Brown.
52:09Yeah. Two would be Zay. Yeah. I'm not really worried about the other two, but I think I'm more worried about Parker Washington than I am Jonathan Taylor.
52:18Yeah. I mean, look, Taylor's just such a wild card right now.
52:22I'd be a little bit worried if he stays with the Colts just because that team are going to be awful.
52:28But they've been awful all year, and he's still averaging 18.8 PPR.
52:32Yeah, but they were awful with Quentin Nelson, and who knows what the quarterback situation may be, which could get worse.
52:39Yeah, that's true. I mean, he struggled at the end of last year.
52:43It wasn't like a must-sit guy or anything, but yeah, he could definitely be worse.
52:48Oh, he's never going to be a must-sit guy.
52:51You know, I mean, maybe when he's just facing an absolutely terrible matchup, if he goes through a stretch of games where he's awful.
52:59But if he stays with Indianapolis, what's the motivation for him and the team?
53:03Do they shut him down at some point? They've got a great schedule.
53:07Mostly great. All right, this one's from The Mayor.
53:10What is your worry-o-meter on the guy in our league that doesn't watch football, only made two moves all year, hasn't touched
53:17his fab, and is crushing the league? And there he is on the worry-o-meter.
53:22Looks familiar, huh? That's Thomas? Yeah. I was like, yeah, just put a picture of Thomas.
53:27Um, worry-o-meter for the guy who doesn't deserve to be winning, but is crushing the league.
53:32No worries at all. No, zero. He's going to continue doing this.
53:36Yeah. All right, let's go to Brett. He says, worry-o-meter on Emeka Abuka.
53:40Baker Mayfield can't complete a pass, literally. 72. I think this could be like one of the biggest week-to-week turnarounds we see all year.
53:48I'm very curious what it'll look like. Um, on the road against Chicago, Jeffrey Simmons, like, are they just going to try
53:55to run the ball every single play? Um, what happens if that doesn't work?
54:00Oh, we've got big news here, by the way.
54:03I'm more worried about Abuka's toe than I am about the offense.
54:07Yeah. I agree with Jacob. Like, they're not going to do this every week.
54:11They can't. And they're not going to do it this week.
54:15Like, so, I'll say 40%. Uh, Deshaun Watson is in the concussion protocol.
54:19FYI. Ooh. Yeah. They, who do they play this week?
54:22They play at Saints. One o'clock on Sunday. All right, so what did you say, Jamie?
54:2740? 40. We got a number, guys? Uh, I don't think Jacob gave a number.
54:32I think I'm about where Jamie is. So it'd be 51.7.
54:36Okay, I didn't hear Heath's number. Otherwise, I would have done the math faster than Heath.
54:41Next up is Corey Green. Worryometer on Omar Cooper Jr.
54:44Two straight games with more than 22 fantasy points and then zero fantasy points.
54:49What's your worryometer on Omar Cooper Jr.? I always find this funny, like, when we get questions about guys like this because, like, he's a bonus.
54:57Like, what are you worried about for somebody that you picked up off waivers that could clearly help your team, but you
55:04shouldn't have to be forcing him into your lineup?
55:07And I'm not saying that to be, you know, condescending.
55:10It's just, like, these type of players that just kind of come out of nowhere, and I only say that because he
55:18missed so much time early in the season. Like, I'm not worried at all.
55:22If he plays well, I'm going to be thrilled about it.
55:26If he doesn't, I understand what I'm getting. So let's, let's, let's change it.
55:30Five percent. Like, 100% would be I'm dropping him right now.
55:34It's like the percentage chance I'm going to have to drop Omar Cooper.
55:3850 for me. That you're going to drop him?
55:41Yeah. Yeah. Uh, 30% that I'm going to drop him.
55:44I'm worried that I actually think this is a really good matchup for him against the Chiefs.
55:50Um, I think that's a spot where he could get a lot of slot targets and I'm going to advise people to
55:57start him and they're going to get zero again.
56:00That does worry me. I thought he looked awesome on film.
56:03I went and watched every route. Um, I think that it could be a lot better than this.
56:09And I think they'll go back and watch the film and see how often he was open and probably getting the ball more.
56:16But, um, yeah, I'll say 50 is about right.
56:19Maybe more. There's so many options here. Heath, we're at 130 divided by three.
56:24What are we doing here? Oh, I'm at 45.
56:2745. Oh, come on, man. One 75 divided by four is 46 ish.
56:31No, I would not five and four. I would not want to drop him to be honest.
56:36Like he's really good and can play in and out of the slot, can do a bunch of different stuff, can win with the ball in his hands.
56:46Like if anything were to happen to Garrett Wilson, this is someone who could actually like take a wide receiver one target share.
56:53So like if you're comparing him to Makai Lemon or Antonio Williams or Ryan Flannoy or any of the guys that we
57:00talked about to pick up this week, like it feels like it's just making a lateral move because like you're going to
57:07have these weeks where these guys are good. Now clearly Williams has a path to consistent production because of McLaurin's injury and
57:14Lemon could have that same thing if Wicks and Smith remain out.
57:18He's going to compete with two pretty talented guys and Garrett Wilson and, and I Mitchell, but I don't know.
57:25I think you're just kind of, you'll drop him one week.
57:28He'll have a big game against the chiefs. You'll regret dropping him.
57:32You'll drop Williams the next week to pick up Cooper again.
57:36Like it's just, that's the type of player. It's so annoying.
57:39And it's not just the type of player he is.
57:42I'm, I'm stunned that Jeremy Bernard has had two bad games in a row.
57:47Like it really felt like that was so easy.
57:50He was going to get his targets every week along with DK Metcalf.
57:54This is just what we're dealing with here with this rookie class.
57:58We're not going to get consistent performances. That's why I put a 50 on the worry that I might have to drop him.
58:05So, uh, all right. Anyway, yeah, he's 44 on that scale for Saquon Barkley though.
58:10Let's put Saquon Barkley on the worryometer giants this week.
58:13Then a buy. How worried are we about Saquon Barkley?
58:1737 40. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm more like 70 or something.
58:21This guy can't get through a game. Stop using your calculator.
58:24I'm not using it. He has an abacus there.
58:27No, it's gotta be, let's see, 70, 140 divided by three.
58:31That's, uh, about 45 ish. I don't know. 49.
58:34Yeah, whatever. That's what I said. I mean, come on.
58:3745. What a terrible guess. Um, yeah. What's the concern here, Jacob, about Barkley?
58:41Just look at him. It's like the Mike Evans thing.
58:45It's like, he's just constantly laboring through every single moment of every single game, except his team's not the 49ers who have Superbowl aspirations.
58:52Yeah. The Evans, the Evans stuff lasted like two games of where it looked like that.
58:57And then it was just like, okay, we have to stop this.
59:01This is obviously insane. But he's coming back this week after his buy.
59:06And so Barkley's got the Giants this week, which I think would be good if he can stay healthy and then a buy.
59:13Hopefully he can get him. Like, just sit him this week.
59:17Give him a nice two-week break. No, I don't, I'm not, I'm not saying that for the Giants.
59:22We're like, we can, we can beat them with Saquon Barkley or lose to them.
59:27But, uh, no, I think it'd be nice to get him healthy.
59:31Wouldn't it? It'd be great to get him healthy.
59:34I mean, I, I like the fact that he's trying to play for a team that's clearly struggling.
59:40I like the fact that, you know, he's, he's, uh, says he doesn't want to be traded, you know, so this game
59:47I'm sure is pretty important to him. So I'm sure he's going to try and do the best he can to be
59:54out there and perform at a high level. You should be stashing Tank Bixby at this point.
60:00He's 19% rostered. Okay. And let's go, let's, we'll go a little faster here so we can save time for, um, for
60:07Jacob's thoughts at the end of the show. The real Luke wants to put George Pickens on the worry-o-meter.
60:13George Pickens, zero to 100. 25. 26. See, I've been 25, 26 all year, but the vibes are getting so weird in Dallas.
60:20Um, Jerry said you gotta get him the ball.
60:23Yeah. Jerry says a lot of stuff. I don't feel great about it.
60:27Their schedule is pretty brutal for the last like five games.
60:31They have a week 14 by, which is also not something I like for fantasy.
60:36I'm going to say like 55 or 60. Okay.
60:39That's somewhere in the thirties. I'm not the 31.
60:42Uh, 36. No, it's 31. Uh, did you use 55 or 60?
60:46I don't, I think I did 50. I don't think.
60:49All right. So some takes there on George Pickens who, who played a season low ran a season low 65% of the routes.
60:56He's dealing with some injuries. Also, the Cowboys have been pretty run heavy the last two weeks.
61:02They have the fourth lowest pass rate in football the last two weeks, but they've played Philadelphia and Arizona.
61:08You know, you're hoping now we've got the Colts coming in now, but then San Francisco, Tennessee, Philadelphia, Seattle, maybe they'll have
61:15to throw more in some of these games. I don't know.
61:19All right. From fantasy football, worryometer on Ashton Gentry.
61:21Hmm. 48. I'm going to say that it is a 32 in full PPR and 75 and everything else.
61:28Yeah. Yeah. I'll say about 40. He wasn't getting that many points running the ball anyway.
61:33Yeah. He just lost like two points a game.
61:36I like the end of season schedule. It is 40, uh, one 20 divided by three.
61:41I got that one 40 on the worryometer for Ashton Gentry.
61:44Uh, like I said earlier in the show, the Raiders is going to apparently play the hot hand.
61:50If you look at them, Gentry versus Mike Washington side-by-side EPA success rate yards before contact after contact, avoid rate.
61:57Washington hasn't beat in most categories and Gentry is basically terrible in all of them.
62:02Um, he's just truly, you know, been one of the worst rushers, at least efficient rushers.
62:07Uh, yeah. I don't know what we got here with, with Gentry.
62:11If we're drafting again today, what round do you think he goes in, in a 12 team league?
62:16PPR? I just did this on beyond the box score last week.
62:20And he went in round two. Round two? Well, that was last week before this week, of course.
62:26Yeah. I think it's, yeah, not way different than Jeremiah Love.
62:30That might be a bad take, but you're truly just hoping that he gets healthy out of the bye week late in
62:37the season and then crushes for like five weeks into the playoff.
62:41So really the only team where I'm holding or trading for Gentry is a team where I can afford to wait on
62:48that and not get any points in the future.
62:51Cause I don't know if you can start him this week.
62:54Where do you guys have him ranked this week?
62:57I'm running back 25. He's like 20. Uh, yeah.
63:00Full PPR. I think he's 19 and non PPR.
63:03I think he's 30 something. Gentry is facing a team that gives up the most receiving yards per game to running backs.
63:10So hopefully, um, they're going to be chasing. So that's to help him.
63:14All right. Austin wants Tyler Warren on the worryometer.
63:17Speaking of inefficient, he is 31st out of 32 tight ends with 25 or more targets in yards per target, yards per
63:24catch and a dot for what that's worth. Tyler Warren is 35.
63:28Is Alec Pierce going to play again? Who? Pretty easy to get yards after catch when your a dot is one.
63:35Um, it feels like a decent enough PPR scam as long as he stays healthy and we might get 10 targets every week.
63:42So for fantasy football, PPR purposes, my worryometer is like 10, 15.
63:46What'd you say, Jamie? I said 35. I mean, we could have Anthony Richardson starting soon, which is just bad for all the pass catchers.
63:54That's fair. And, and he's not getting a lot of yak right now, which you would think would change, but his big play rate is putrid.
64:03It's good. Catches for 18 yards. Yeah. I mean, his big play rate was 14.3% last year.
64:08It's 4.3% this year. You would think that would change me.
64:12I don't know how it could be that low.
64:15Um, to be fair, if they trade Taylor, he could be their best running back.
64:20And last one is Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson. Five.
64:23Wow. I mean, when's it start? If, uh, if it's relative to the people who drafted him in round one, I would say it's probably like 28.
64:31Yeah. I've been kind of nervous all year. Um, I'll say 20.
64:35Okay. It's not that low. It's not that high then.
64:38It's not like he's a 70 or anything like that.
64:42Nobody's going to be sitting him. It's pretty bad, but what is it?
64:46It's 55 or fewer yards in four of six games.
64:49No, three of six games. He left one of those games early or three of five games, I guess.
64:55Yeah. Oh, wait. Yeah. He's played six games. We left one of them after 20, 12% of the snap.
65:01So I don't know. It's been rough. I was less worried before week, week eight.
65:06He had the touchdown, but Kyler's playing so poorly.
65:09Yeah. I think Wentz would help. And it seems like his postgame reaction was basically a signal and everyone got it.
65:16Like we got to get Justin Jefferson, the Buffalo this week.
65:20Come on. We got to get going here. All right.
65:23Great. Uh, now we're going to, we can't do grade the trade today.
65:27Sorry, folks. Let's do a grade. The Jacob Jacob, you are going to be graded on a, uh, yeah.
65:33F to a, uh, scale here, which is just being graded.
65:37I don't know why I said that. So go for it.
65:40Give us, drop us some fantasy knowledge. Yeah, I came prepared.
65:44So I, I feel confident that I can do okay here.
65:47Um, grade out pretty well. I've got five running backs I want to talk to you about.
65:53Um, and if you want, I can dig into even more.
65:56I'm looking at red zone data. Um, so I do this every week on beyond the box score where I dig into rest of season rankings update.
66:05Um, and then look at the usage notes for every team, every backfield.
66:09I want to talk about Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs has 88% of the whole team's touches inside the 10 yard line since returning.
66:17He already has 15 PPR points inside the 10, three and a half touches per game inside the 10, six red zone touches per game.
66:25So those are all monster numbers for reference. There are five running backs averaging over four red zone touches per game on the year.
66:33He's averaging six. Those five running backs are Jameer Gibbs, 5.9.
66:36Kenneth Walker, 5.1. Derek Henry, 4.9. Javante Williams, 4.6.
66:39And John, Jerry Swift, 4.5. Red zone touches per game.
66:42Uh, I want to talk about Henry first here.
66:45I'm pretty nervous about what we've got, um, going forward.
66:49If this is, I mean, they're implied for the fewest points of any team this week.
66:54If that's what we're going to have, uh, consistently for the Ravens.
66:58I think that that is a huge, huge change.
67:00Obviously we worry about playing from behind and just that affecting his, um, total touches, his playing time and all that.
67:07Um, he's been game script sensitive, but also he's just been very touchdown dependent.
67:12He has 66% of the Ravens touches and 47% of the Ravens touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line over the past two seasons.
67:20Those are by far the highest rates in the NFL.
67:23Um, and the Ravens have been 35% less likely to produce touchdowns with Lamar Jackson off of the field on a per play basis.
67:31Um, I think over the course of like full games, it's probably even wider discrepancy than that.
67:36Right. We all feel how much different it is.
67:39Yeah. Um, I've got to run back 20 this week.
67:42I haven't running back 18 rest of season. I don't really know what to do with him.
67:48Um, I would, people are like trading for tooting.
67:51I would be so thrilled if I could do that.
67:54Like there's, I would, there's a lot of running backs.
67:57I would trade him for him. I know. Um, I'd trade him for chase Brown.
68:02You know, like there's a lot of guys I would flip Henry for easily.
68:06I'm, I'm curious what y'all think about. Oh, I mean in a heartbeat, if, if somebody said, here's Derek, here's chase Brown
68:14for Derek Henry, I'd, you know, couldn't hit except fast enough.
68:17I think just looking at the situation, like, yeah, it's, it's, it's bad.
68:21Now again, they, they may find somebody that is Tyler Huntley level or better.
68:26And I, I say that obviously very hopeful that that's the floor.
68:30It's not easy to find quarterbacks. So, you know, Jacoby Brissett is, is a easy player to sort of peg and say
68:37that's somebody that they're, that they're looking at as a, as a trade target.
68:41Mack Jones would be a, uh, I think a dream.
68:45Um, you know, you, you've heard, uh, I think it was our, our former colleague who's very tied to the Baltimore area and the Ravens, Jason La Confora.
68:54He suggested Tyson Bajant because of the tie in with Declan Doyle when they were on the bears together.
69:00So like, this is what we're looking at here.
69:03Like, did those guys excite you for Derek Henry or even say flowers?
69:07I don't know that if that could be the case, you know, those guys were good with Huntley to a degree.
69:14They weren't Lamar Jackson. They weren't producing like they were with Lamar Jackson.
69:18So yeah, I mean, if you could unload Derek Henry, as he said, you know, you're selling low, but you're selling low for a reason.
69:26Just to say one thing about Henry here. He has a season in his somewhat recent history, 2022, where he averaged about 19 PPR points per game.
69:35He was RB four. This is in full PPR on the 28th ranked offense in the NFL.
69:40And this wasn't even like vintage Henry. This was a year where he averaged 4.4 yards per carry.
69:46This year, he's averaging 4.0. So that is actually a big change.
69:50But he was but he averaged 22 carries per game.
69:53Almost. He's also 26 then. Yeah, 28. No, it's not the same.
69:57It's probably not the same player, but he does have a history of being on a terror.
70:03He's one of the only running backs who's been on a terrible offense in the last like decade and been a top
70:10five running back on a per game basis. He and Brees Hall are the only ones I could find, really.
70:16Okay, go ahead, Jacob. Sorry. So if you're watching on YouTube here, you see on the screen, this is there are six
70:23running backs who have accounted for at least half of their offenses touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line.
70:29So the whole team, not just the backfield. And you can see here the percentage of the touches, the percentage of the
70:37snaps and the percentage of the touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line, along with the fantasy points that they've scored from inside the 10.
70:45So Henry's up there at the very top, 50% of Baltimore's total touchdowns inside the 10 yard line.
70:50I want to talk about Bucky Irving, man. Bucky Irving has 55% of the Bucks touchdowns from inside the 10, which is
70:58tied with Tuba Hubbard for the highest rate in the league.
71:01Um, he has a 52% red zone touch share, which is up to 61% over the past month.
71:07So running back six and the percentage of the team's touches inside the red zone sandwich in between Jonathan Taylor and Javante Williams.
71:14This is not at all what we got from Bucky Irving last year.
71:19Uh, he had seven touches from inside the 10 all year long.
71:23He already has six touchdowns from inside the 10.
71:25Oh, wow. This year he's been so good. Like he's completely turned this season around like shout out Jalen Daniels, of course,
71:33but like Bucky really has just been the heart of this team and has turned them around.
71:38And now they're actually competitive in their division and it's all been through him.
71:43I mean, before, uh, the, the second half last week where it just, I mean, it was just a weird game, but
71:50like he was clearly the start at 19 of 25 running back touches over a 70% snapper.
71:55And I think that they went to gain one more so the Bucky didn't die.
72:00Like he's an absolute bell cow locked in the offense runs through him.
72:04Okay. I don't know what to do with that information necessarily.
72:08Cause I don't know how good this office will be.
72:11Um, but to me, like I see him and Jalen Warren sort of similarly with a clear distinction that there's no funny business happening in the red zone.
72:20There's no Rico daddle. It's clearly Bucky in that area as the main difference between those two.
72:26Yeah. He's had a very light schedule lately. You go back to his last bad matchup week six against Pittsburgh.
72:32He had a terrible game before that terrible game against green Bay, terrible game against Minnesota.
72:37So he's, he's destroyed Dallas, Carolina, and Atlanta recently.
72:40His next two games are against teams that are top five against running backs at Chicago and at Detroit.
72:46And there's a buy in between there too. Sounds like I'm telling you to sell high on Bucky Irving, but I don't
72:53think I would because I mean, I tell him for like Bijan, but, uh, you know, he, he should be involved in the passing game.
73:02If Baker Mayfield throws footballs, you know, that's kind of been a thing and seven, four and four targets and three games with, with Baker Mayfield.
73:10But I can't, I love Bucky Irving. I can't let go.
73:13I can't not mention the fact that he's been very matchup dependent this year.
73:18Sure. Yeah. After that stretch, I'm sorry. Week 12 on it's a great schedule for him.
73:23Go ahead. Yeah. Two of the guys I want to talk about are Deandre Swift.
73:28Clearly, um, 58 points inside of the 10 yard line this year.
73:32You see here on the screen, like the leading score inside of the 10.
73:36Deandre Swift has 27 touches inside the 10 this year.
73:40Last year, James Cook had 27 all year. He was the running back nine with 27 touches inside the 10.
73:46Javante had 31 from that range. He had 12 touchdowns inside the 10.
73:50Those are like top three numbers. Uh, Swift already has 27 touches inside the 10 and nine touchdowns inside the 10.
73:57He had 23% of the team's touches inside the 10 last year.
74:01That's up to 53%. Like it's just a completely different role.
74:05I think Mononga will cut into that some. Um, but I also think that they're just prioritizing him differently than they did last year.
74:12They're like designing targets to him way more than they did last year.
74:17I'm curious where you're at on like Swift. I feel like Javante, Swift, Kyron Williams always just kind of get lumped into one group.
74:24Um, but to me, the bears offense right now clearly feels the best of that group.
74:30Any thoughts on Swift rest of season? I think the big question is what is the split when Mononga is 100%?
74:36And cause he has like that. It seemed like that very, the first two games, it was a pretty even split with
74:43Swift and Roshan because they were kind of blowouts.
74:46And then the last two, it hasn't been at all.
74:50If he has this share of the work that he's had the last two weeks for the rest of season, then I
74:57think he's probably ahead of all those guys you said.
75:00Well, the Kyron comp is the best one because of Corum, you know?
75:04So you're, you're seeing what it looks like for a guy that loses work to a pretty talented backup.
75:10And I think that's the case. I just feel like in the case of what we're seeing with Swift now, and clearly
75:17that speaks more to Roshan, I think than anything else, because he's just not as talented as Mononga guys.
75:24They're just not going to trust the second guy like they would when Mononga is healthy.
75:29That being said, we don't know when Mononga is going to be healthy.
75:33They could have, and probably should have, put him on IR to free up a roster spot, and they decided not to do so.
75:41So they have this week, then they go into their bye, and we'll see what this looks like for them rest of season.
75:48But at this point, like, you've got to feel pretty confident in DeAndre Swift and just hope that Mononga doesn't ruin him
75:55more than 10% or 15% of the production you're getting.
75:58So for what it's worth, weeks one through three, DeAndre Swift had 11 touches inside the 10, and Mononga had three.
76:05And then the next week, Swift got benched for fumbling.
76:08Mononga ended up with seven touches inside the 10-yard line.
76:12But in the first three weeks of the season when Swift played his normal snap share, he was dominating touches inside the 10, 11 to 3.
76:20He feels like, I don't know, maybe a little fluky.
76:23I wouldn't expect it to be that lopsided with Mononga.
76:27Mononga's run really well this year, and Swift really hasn't.
76:30I mean, is he under four yards per carry at this point?
76:34I know he just had a terrible efficiency game against the Seahawks, but it was 4.1 going into that game.
76:40I'm wondering if this is the peak value for DeAndre Swift.
76:44But again, just like Jamie said, I have no idea when Mononga is coming back.
76:49Swift or Bucky, rest of season? Swift. I do have Swift.
76:52Swift. I just have so much more confidence in this Bears offense.
76:56The Bears offense, to your point, hasn't even run the ball like they did last year and still looks unstoppable.
77:03I think Caleb has tapped into a different level of play than we've seen from him in the past.
77:09More consistent, a little bit more accurate. He's obviously always had the top-end tools, but just the little things are coming together
77:16where it's like, this offense is going to be really hard to stop.
77:20All right. Anything else? A few more minutes? Jonah Coleman.
77:23Obviously, this could get thrown off by a trade or something if Jonathan Taylor goes to Denver, but 46% of the red
77:30zone touches and 50% of the inside the 10-yard line touches have gone to Coleman in the three games that he's played, weeks two, seven, and eight.
77:39Those are really high rates, and it's only a three-game sample, but it's also a rookie who only until recently was just fighting for extra playing time.
77:48To me, the fact that even in those games, he got a lot of touches inside the 10-yard line is really notable,
77:55and it isn't like 50% of two touches. He had eight touches inside the 10-yard line on the year in three games.
78:02He has eight touches inside the 10-yard line. That's more than Ramondre Stevenson has all year.
78:07That's more than Chris Rodriguez or Cam Skadaboo have all year.
78:11That's more than the entire Minnesota backfield has all year.
78:14That's more than Jalen Warren and Rico Dattel combined all year inside the 10, going to Jonah Coleman in three games.
78:21I think he is an endearing running back. I think he does every single thing that a coach wants.
78:27He's a great pass protector. He fights for extra yards.
78:30He gets what's there. I don't think he's giving this job up unless he gets hurt, or I guess they just decide
78:37to trade for Jonathan Taylor or something like that.
78:40Why? Just don't do it. And just for the team, they've had such a tough schedule.
78:45Chiefs twice, Jaguars, Rams, Niners, Chargers, Seahawks, Cardinals. I mean, the rest of their schedule is Panthers, Raiders twice, Steelers, great defense.
78:53Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Patriots could be a very good defense.
78:56I'm not saying every single week is a layup, but the difference between the first half of the Broncos schedule and the
79:03second half of the Broncos schedule is immense. It is so much easier on paper.
79:08Good stuff. Cool. Anything else? You good? Got any red zone splits you want to know?
79:13You want me to look up Basial Tootin's stats for you?
79:16No. I think we know how you feel about Basial Tootin.
79:20He's good. He's good. I hope he plays on Thursday.
79:23I really, really hope we can start him again.
79:26Jacob, thank you for joining us. For sure. Thanks for having me.
79:30It was fun. How about that? A plus. No.
79:33You got to make... Yeah, keep them hungry, Heath.
79:36We'll be complacent next time he comes on the show.
79:39Thanks for watching and listening, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
79:43Start or sit for the AFC home game. See ya.
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