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Week 9 Buy Low & Sell High TRADE Targets + Worry-O-Meter! (11/4 Fantasy Football Podcast)

STACKED extracted the fantasy-relevant player signal from this podcast and kept the full transcript here for context.

1 hr 21 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Nov 4, 2026
Published
Wed, November 4, 2026
93
Player insights
51
Players mentioned
Topics
Zay FlowersJonah ColemanBrenton StrangeChase BrownParker WashingtonTrevor LawrenceJalen CokerJosh JacobsJustin JeffersonNico CollinsA.J. BrownBam KnightBraelon AllenBreece Hall
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A.J. Brown

NegativeProjection10:00

The source mentions having A.J. Brown and Omari and Hampton on the same team and notes 'We're not doing so great,' indicating the team with both players is underperforming despite having a top-tier receiver.

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NegativeRole51:47

On the Worry-O-Meter, AJ Brown is ranked as the most worried player (0-100 scale), indicating significant concern about his performance or role.

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Alec Pierce

PositiveRole63:23

Alec Pierce's big play rate has collapsed from 14.3% last year to 4.3% this year, which is putrid; his yards after catch are inflated by a low average depth of target (dot is one), making him a limited fantasy asset despite potential target volume.

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Bam Knight

PositiveRole6:00

Primary backup to Love during his absence; averaged just shy of 11 PPR points in the two games Love missed, significantly outproducing Tyler Algier (6.5-7.5 PPR). In the second quarter of recent action, Knight played 16 snaps to Algier's four, establishing clear snap share dominance. Source recommends adding him and not letting him go unrostered.

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NegativeInjury6:13

On most dropped list after concussion; roster ownership fell from 55% to 49%; concussions typically result in zero-to-one-week absence, but this situation appears more uncertain.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveRole5:30

Aaron Glenn praised Allen as 'a beast,' suggesting he is a capable backup or secondary option in the Jets running back rotation.

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PositiveValue10:00

In a trade comparison, Braylon Allen for Omari and Hampton is evaluated as favoring Allen, with the caveat that if Brees Hall is taking over the job, the preference for Allen is even stronger. This suggests Allen has more secure usage than Hampton.

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Breece Hall

PositiveRole5:30

Aaron Glenn confirmed as the lead back, stating 'Brees Hall is our guy,' establishing him as the primary running back.

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NegativeValue34:00

The source (Jamie) identifies Breece Hall as a sell-low candidate in the trade targets segment. While limited detail is provided in the transcript, the source explicitly states 'sell... Brees Hall' as part of the recap of trade targets.

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Brenton Strange

PositiveUsage43:00

Since week four, Brenton Strange ranks second among tight ends in target per route run rate, behind only TJ Hockenson. The source recommends him as a good streaming tight end option for Jacksonville vs. Baltimore.

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NegativeUsage48:07

Getting a ton of targets except for last week when Trevor Lawrence had only 14 pass attempts; source notes Ravens gave up 4 catches, 86 yards, and a touchdown to Kincaid last week, so the matchup is not necessarily one to avoid.

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NegativeProjection48:24

Source ranks him as a decent start but not significantly different from waiver-wire options like Chico Coutinho or Eli Raridon; another source suggests there's a better outcome for him, particularly noting that Raridon faces a tough Packers matchup and Strange's low target share last week was anomalous.

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NegativeUsage49:46

The source is concerned about Brenton Strange's route volume on the Jaguars; he has as many games with two or three targets as he does games with more than five targets. The source prefers other tight ends in this matchup because they want route volume and doesn't want to use Strange given the Jaguars' uncertain pass volume.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveUsage69:18

Bucky Irving has 55% of the Buccaneers' red zone touchdowns (tied for highest in NFL with Tuba Hubbard) and a 52% red zone touch share (up to 61% over the past month); he is running back six in red zone touch share. This is a dramatic shift from last year when he had only seven touches inside the 10-yard line all season; he already has six touchdowns inside the 10 this year. He is a clear bell cow with 19 of 25 running back touches (70%+ snap share) and the offense runs through him.

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NegativeMatchup71:00

Bucky Irving has been matchup-dependent this year; his next two games are against top-five run defenses (Chicago and Detroit) with a bye in between. He has destroyed weaker defenses (Dallas, Carolina, Atlanta) recently but struggled against Pittsburgh, Green Bay, and Minnesota earlier in the season.

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Caleb Douglas

PositiveValue12:00

The source identifies Caleb Douglas as a buy alongside Jalen Coker, though the specific reasoning for Douglas is cut off in the transcript. The inclusion in the buy list suggests the source sees value in acquiring Douglas.

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NegativeBust36:00

The source expresses skepticism about Caleb Douglas and rookie wide receivers in general, stating 'I don't think there's a single rookie wide receiver other than Carnell Tate that I feel like I'm going to be confident putting in my lineup on a weekly basis.' When asked about trading Isaiah Likely for Sam Laporta and Caleb Douglas, the source is willing to make that trade, suggesting Douglas has limited standalone value. The source also notes that Douglas will only be confident to start 'two weeks every month' and those are the weeks the Lions are bad.

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Carnell Tate

PositiveSleeper36:00

The source argues that Carnell Tate could be a buy-low candidate coming off a bad game and a bye. The source notes Tate has arguably the best schedule of any player, with upcoming opponents ranking 27th, 26th, 27th, 21st, 29th, 7th, 22nd, and 9th against wide receivers. However, the source acknowledges potential fool's gold: Jacksonville has two of the next three games, and while Travis Hunter is a very good cornerback who shadowed Nico Collins well, wide receivers are still putting up numbers against the Jaguars. Detroit has been much better the last three weeks and may be healthier by week five. Despite these caveats, the source believes Tate could get 14 fantasy points per game (around RB20 production) and is 'not like don't think he's going to win you your league. But can he get 14 fantasy points per game? I think he could.' The source also predicts Tate will be the best rookie wide receiver by season's end.

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Chase Brown

NegativeProjection3:18

Listed as a Worryometer Wednesday topic for Week 9 analysis.

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PositiveValue9:00

Second most traded player; source is buying. Preferred over Ollie Gordon in a direct comparison.

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PositiveValue21:12

The source identifies Chase Brown as a buy-low candidate despite five straight games with no more than 13 carries and no touchdown since week one. The rationale: Brown is averaging six targets per game (five targets per game excluding the game Jamar Chase left with injury), and if he catches 80% of those targets, that projects to four catches per game or 68 catches per season. The source believes this is the low point for Brown's value, with Atlanta this week giving up the fourth-most fantasy points to running backs, and expects his value to only increase from here.

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PositiveProjection43:51

Chase Brown is ranked ahead of Chris Rodriguez (if Basil Tootin is out) in the source's week 9 rankings for Jacksonville vs. Baltimore.

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Chris Rodriguez

PositiveRole4:01

Moved up on waiver wire with potential for significant opportunity if Rashaad White is unavailable; beat writer John Shipley suggests Rodriguez could have a big opportunity in front of him if he gets the chance to play; would be a borderline top-20 running back if he starts.

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PositiveProjection43:44

If Basil Tootin does not play, Chris Rodriguez is ranked in the top-15 range for Jacksonville vs. Baltimore, positioned right behind Chase Brown and Jonah Coleman. The source notes he drops off pretty hard after that tier.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeValue8:00

In a trade comparison, DJ Moore for Josh Jacobs is evaluated as favoring the Moore side 'for now,' with the caveat that if Jacobs avoids further suspension or trade, the source would prefer Jacobs over Moore, suggesting Moore's current value advantage is conditional on Jacobs' risk factors.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveUsage72:08

D'Andre Swift has 27 touches inside the 10-yard line this year (compared to James Cook's 27 all of last year when he was RB9) and 9 touchdowns inside the 10; his red zone touch share has jumped from 23% last year to 53% this year—a completely different role. The source notes the Bears offense clearly feels the best among the Swift/Javante Williams/Kyren Williams group, and Swift should maintain significant work even when Mononga returns.

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NegativeRole73:25

D'Andre Swift's role may be cut into by Mononga's return; in weeks one through three when Swift played his normal snap share, he had 11 touches inside the 10 to Mononga's three, but Mononga had seven touches inside the 10 in week four when Swift was benched for fumbling. The source expects Mononga to reduce Swift's production by 10-15% but notes uncertainty about Mononga's return timeline and questions whether this is peak value for Swift given his 4.1 yards per carry efficiency.

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Dallas Goedert

PositiveMatchup49:34

In a start-sit comparison, the source prefers Dallas Goedert against the Giants over Brenton Strange, citing the Giants' potential for high pass volume (40-45 drop-backs) and Goedert's superior route volume.

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David Montgomery

NegativeDepth Chart10:00

The source notes that Montgomery could be back this week but expresses uncertainty about whether he will reclaim the lead role: 'we don't know that Montgomery is getting the lead rollback,' suggesting his return status and role are unclear.

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Derrick Henry

NegativeValue28:48

The source prefers to sell low on Derrick Henry rather than buy low on Zay Flowers. The rationale: Henry has three straight games with 60 scrimmage yards or fewer. The source argues that whoever the Ravens add at quarterback won't open up rushing lanes for him, the team will lose a lot of games (and Henry is bad in losses), and they won't score many touchdowns—all of which Henry needs to produce. The source explicitly states 'I'd be more likely to sell low on Derrick Henry, whereas I'm trying to buy low on Zay Flowers.'

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Eli Raridon

NegativeMatchup48:44

Facing one of the toughest matchups of the week against the Packers, making him a less attractive option compared to alternatives like Brenton Strange.

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Hunter Henry

NegativeInjury49:07

Hunter Henry's status is uncertain according to Mike Vrabel; his availability for the upcoming game is not confirmed, which creates uncertainty for fantasy purposes.

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Isaiah Likely

NegativeValue34:00

The source argues for selling low on Isaiah Likely, expressing concern that target volume will decline with J.J. McCarthy at quarterback compared to what it was with Jameis Winston or Jackson Dart. McCarthy has targeted Likely at a 13% and 14.3% target-per-route-run rate (translating to a 16% target share in five quarters), while also throwing frequently to Malachi Fields. The source notes the bye week is now over, providing a selling point, and suggests pointing to season-long scoring average to sell Likely as a top-four or top-five tight end. While the source believes Likely will remain a starter, he won't be the difference-maker he was early in the season.

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PositiveMatchup50:02

In a start-sit comparison, the source prefers Isaiah Likely over Brenton Strange, indicating Likely has better matchup or usage prospects.

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Jalen Coker

PositiveValue12:00

The source identifies Jalen Coker as a buy, noting he has had 'a couple of bad games recently and mediocre games recently' but scored a touchdown last week. Despite recent underperformance, the source believes 'there's plenty of love about the situation' and that Coker will 'get his opportunities as targets.' The Panthers are making offensive adjustments and the offensive line is a work in progress, but the source maintains confidence in Coker's target opportunities.

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PositiveValue34:00

The source (Jamie) identifies Jalen Coker as a buy-low candidate in the trade targets segment. While limited detail is provided in the transcript, the source explicitly states 'Jamie says by Jalen Coker' as part of the recap of trade targets.

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PositiveMatchup50:41

In a start-sit comparison, Jalen Coker against the Broncos is preferred over Parker Washington, indicating better matchup prospects.

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James Cook

NegativeMatchup44:00

James Cook had 21 carries for 80 yards and a touchdown plus two catches for 21 yards against Baltimore's defense, which allows 3.8 yards per carry (eighth-best against running backs) and second-fewest receiving yards per game. The source notes it was a very good game but not exactly the easiest for Cook given Baltimore's defensive strength.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeInjury0:00

Suffered a five- to six-week injury; must miss weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 and could return in week 13, but team may sit him through bye week 14 if not fully healthy. Playoff schedule is favorable, but unclear if team will rush him back given he's a first-round pick.

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NegativeInjury6:13

On injured reserve with a 5-to-6-week injury timeline; will miss weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 and could return in week 13 before the team's bye in week 14.

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Joe Burrow

PositiveProjection50:07

In a start-sit comparison, the source prefers Joe Burrow as a QB1 option, indicating strong projection for the week.

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Joe Fagnano

NegativeRole5:10

Starting quarterback for Jacksonville this week following Tyler Huntley's season-ending injury; relatively unknown player with limited public recognition.

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Jonah Coleman

PositiveValue10:00

In a trade comparison, Jonah Coleman for Omari and Hampton is evaluated as strongly favoring Coleman, with the source saying 'No way. Take Coleman, right? No way,' indicating high conviction that Coleman is the better asset.

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PositiveValue30:48

The source argues for buying high on Jonah Coleman, citing the Broncos' fantastic second-half schedule and a huge gap between Coleman's and J.K. Dobbins' ability with the football. With R.J. Harvey and Tyler Bidet both on IR, the source believes Coleman will be established as the clear RB1 before they return. Coleman played 66% of snaps last week, more than Harvey or Dobbins have played in any game this season. The source projects Coleman as a top-20 running back this week and rest of season, potentially moving into the top 15 within a game or two. When asked whether he'd rather have Derrick Henry or Jonah Coleman rest of season, the source chooses Coleman.

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PositiveProjection43:51

Jonah Coleman is ranked ahead of Chris Rodriguez (if Basil Tootin is out) and Parker Washington in the source's week 9 rankings. He is preferred over Parker Washington in start-sit comparisons for Jacksonville vs. Baltimore.

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PositiveUsage72:03

Jonah Coleman has 46% of the Colts' red zone touches and 50% of inside-the-10-yard-line touches in three games played (weeks two, seven, eight); he has eight touches inside the 10-yard line in just three games—more than Ramondre Stevenson, Chris Rodriguez, Cam Skadaboo, the entire Minnesota backfield, or Jalen Warren and Rico Dattel combined all year. The source believes he is an endearing running back who does everything a coach wants and won't give up the job unless injured or the team trades for Jonathan Taylor.

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PositiveProjection74:00

Jonah Coleman's rest-of-season outlook improves significantly after week 12; the Colts' schedule shifts from a brutal first half (Chiefs twice, Jaguars, Rams, 49ers, Chargers, Seahawks, Cardinals) to a much easier second half (Panthers, Raiders twice, Steelers, Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Patriots). This schedule relief should benefit Coleman's volume and scoring potential.

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Jonathan Taylor

NegativeMatchup47:10

Held to 8 carries for 23 yards by Jacksonville's defense last week, demonstrating Jacksonville's run defense effectiveness even without their interior defensive lineman Devon Hamilton playing significant snaps.

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NegativeRole51:51

On the Worry-O-Meter, Jonathan Taylor is ranked as the least worried among the four players (AJ Brown, Parker Washington, Zay Flowers, Jonathan Taylor), indicating the source is not particularly concerned about his performance.

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Jordan Love

NegativeMatchup50:44

In a start-sit comparison, Jordan Love is not preferred over Trevor Lawrence, indicating the source favors Lawrence's matchup or projection.

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Jordan Mason

NegativeValue9:30

Included in a dynasty trade offer alongside Josh Jacobs (Jacobs and Mason for Deshaun Stribbling and a first-round pick), which source rejected, suggesting limited confidence in Mason's standalone value.

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Josh Jacobs

NegativeValue8:00

The source evaluates Josh Jacobs in multiple trade scenarios across CBS leagues. Jacobs wins trades against Nico Collins, Ali Gordon, and DJ Moore; loses to Justin Jefferson. The source notes conditional preference: 'If Jacobs doesn't get suspended any further, I'd take him over Nico Collins and DJ Moore,' but factors in potential suspension or trade risk when assessing his value relative to other players.

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NegativeBust9:30

Third most traded player; source has significant concern that he may not finish the season, citing potential trade or suspension risk. In a dynasty league, source rejected a trade offer of Josh Jacobs and Jordan Mason for Deshaun Stribbling and a first-round pick, instead counter-offering only Stribbling for Jacobs to take a chance on him finishing the season.

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PositiveUsage66:06

Josh Jacobs has 88% of the Raiders' red zone touches since returning and is averaging 6 red zone touches per game with 15 PPR points inside the 10-yard line; he leads the NFL in red zone touches per game (6.0), ahead of Jameer Gibbs (5.9), Kenneth Walker (5.1), Derek Henry (4.9), Javante Williams (4.6), and D'Andre Swift (4.5).

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Justice Hill

PositiveUsage47:20

Had 8 targets last week, indicating elevated target volume; source notes he usually gets 3-4 targets per week, making last week's 8 targets an anomaly worth monitoring.

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Justin Jefferson

NegativeProjection3:18

Listed as a Worryometer Wednesday topic for Week 9 analysis.

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NegativeValue8:00

Justin Jefferson for Josh Jacobs is evaluated as favoring Jefferson. The source notes Jefferson is the third or fourth most traded player and will be discussed on the worry-o-meter later, indicating elevated trade activity and concern around his situation.

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NegativeProjection64:20

Justin Jefferson's worry-o-meter is 55, reflecting significant concern; he has posted 55 or fewer yards in three of five games (one game left early at 12% snap share), and Kyler Murray's poor play is limiting his upside. The source was less worried before week eight but notes his postgame reaction signaled urgency for the Cardinals offense.

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Luther Burden

NegativeMatchup50:23

In a five-player sit-two scenario with Parker Washington, Nico Collins, Jonah Coleman, Luther Burden, and T. Higgins, the source recommends sitting Luther Burden along with Parker Washington, indicating concern about his matchup or usage.

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Malik Willis

NegativeMatchup50:33

In a start-sit comparison, Malik Willis is not preferred over Trevor Lawrence, indicating the source favors Lawrence's matchup or projection.

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Matthew Golden

NegativeValue8:00

In a trade comparison, Matthew Golden for Josh Jacobs is evaluated as favoring the Golden side, indicating Golden is preferred over Jacobs in current trade value.

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Mike Washington Jr.

NegativeValue34:00

The source (Jamie) identifies Mike Washington Jr. as a sell-low candidate in the trade targets segment. While limited detail is provided in the transcript, the source explicitly states 'sell Mike Washington Jr.' as part of the recap of trade targets.

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Nico Collins

NegativeValue8:00

In a trade comparison, Nico Collins for Josh Jacobs favors the Collins side. The source later notes that if Jacobs avoids further suspension, he would take Jacobs over Collins, suggesting Collins is currently valued higher but the gap is conditional on Jacobs' legal/roster status.

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PositiveValue10:00

In a trade comparison, Nico Collins side wins against Josh Jacobs, indicating Collins is viewed as the more valuable asset.

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PositiveMatchup50:47

In start-sit comparisons, Nico Collins is consistently preferred over Parker Washington, indicating stronger matchup or usage prospects.

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Ollie Gordon II

NegativeValue8:30

Most traded player in the week; source is selling, primarily because he was picked up off waivers with the hope of having other players on the roster, not because of declining talent or performance concerns.

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NegativeMatchup46:08

Facing Jacksonville's defense in a game where Jacksonville's interior defensive lineman Devon Hamilton (who plays about 50% of snaps normally) played only 18% of snaps last week; source notes Jacksonville held Jonathan Taylor to 8 carries for 23 yards even without Hamilton playing much, suggesting their run defense scheme may be effective regardless of personnel availability.

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Omar Cooper Jr.

PositiveBreakout38:00

The source mentions Omar Cooper as a potential breakout candidate among rookie wide receivers, noting that 'another couple of big games from Omar Cooper. He might run away with it' in terms of being the best rookie wide receiver by season's end. When asked who is currently the number one rookie wide receiver in fantasy points per game, the source responds 'Omar Cooper,' indicating Cooper is leading the rookie WR class in per-game scoring.

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Parker Washington

NegativeMatchup3:18

In multiple start-sit comparisons, Parker Washington is consistently deprioritized. The source recommends sitting Washington over Nico Collins, Luther Burden, and T. Higgins in a five-player sit-two scenario. Washington is also ranked as the second-most worried player on the Worry-O-Meter (after AJ Brown), indicating concern about his performance.

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NegativeProjection3:18

Listed as a Worryometer Wednesday topic for Week 9 analysis.

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NegativeBust24:00

The source expresses concern about Parker Washington's four touchdowns this year, noting they've been spectacular but worrying about the Jaguars blowing out teams on their schedule. The Jaguars' next four games are Baltimore, Tennessee, Giants, and Tennessee. The source notes the Jaguars are 25th in pass rate, meaning when they pull away in games, they don't throw much. This limits Washington's upside in blowout scenarios despite his recent touchdown production.

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PositiveValue25:00

Despite recent concerns about blowout scenarios limiting his upside, the source argues Parker Washington is still a buy-low candidate. The rationale centers on Trevor Lawrence's quality as a quarterback—the source notes Lawrence has been pulled early in eight of the last 15 Jaguars games, missing a total of 89 minutes, suggesting the team will remain competitive and keep throwing. The source states 'he's too good. He's awesome. And he'll get his production' and frames this as a great opportunity to buy low on Washington despite four of the last five games not being that good.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeProjection44:04

The source has Patrick Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence back-to-back in quarterback rankings with less than a half-point apart in projections, suggesting they are essentially interchangeable for week 9.

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Rachaad White

NegativeInjury4:01

Listed as questionable; expected to be unavailable or limited, creating opportunity for Chris Rodriguez; source suggests having a backup plan.

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Sam LaPorta

PositiveValue35:00

The source identifies Sam Laporta as a good buy-low candidate. The rationale: Laporta's last two games have been against Minnesota and Green Bay, which rank number one and number two against tight ends. The source expects better times ahead. Laporta had a 20% target share in week eight after a 5% target share in week seven, suggesting increased involvement. When asked what he'd want to give up Isaiah Likely for Laporta, the source says he'd accept Laporta and Caleb Douglas for Likely, or even just Laporta and a worse wide receiver two for a better wide receiver two.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeProjection3:18

Listed as a Worryometer Wednesday topic for Week 9 analysis.

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PositiveProjection47:26

Has been great all year; Commanders held him in check last week despite missing two starting defensive tackles, suggesting the Commanders' run defense scheme is effective.

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Stefon Diggs

PositiveMatchup50:16

In a start-sit comparison, Stefan Diggs against the Rams is preferred over Parker Washington, indicating better matchup prospects.

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Travis Kelce

PositiveMatchup49:27

In a start-sit comparison, the source prefers Travis Kelce against the Jets over Brenton Strange, citing Kelce's superior route volume potential and the Chiefs' ability to drop back frequently in this matchup.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveProjection25:00

The source notes that Trevor Lawrence has been pulled early in eight of the last 15 Jaguars games, missing a total of 89 minutes. This stat is used to support the argument that Lawrence is too good and will get his production, and by extension, that Parker Washington will benefit from Lawrence's quality play and continued passing volume. The source also mentions that Lawrence is probably a top-five MVP candidate, suggesting elite quarterback play.

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PositiveProjection43:30

The source ranks Lawrence as QB6 with five quarterbacks ahead of him (Burrow, Purdy, Goff, Mahomes, Allen), making him a must-start quarterback. In Jacksonville vs. Baltimore, Lawrence is preferred over Dak Prescott at the Colts, Jaden Daniels against the Rams, Matthew Stafford, and Aaron Rodgers at New England. However, Jacksonville's tendency to throw fewer passes in blowout wins (23, 29, and 17 passes in three games won by 24+ points) could limit volume if they win by 14+ points as 10.5-point favorites.

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PositiveMatchup48:46

This is an MVP spotlight game for Trevor Lawrence against Houston; if he comes out with a big performance, it wouldn't shock the source, especially if Tune is not available. The source suggests Liam Cohen seems like the type of coach to give Lawrence a big game opportunity.

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PositiveProjection50:04

This is an MVP spotlight game for Lawrence; source suggests he could have a big performance and wouldn't be shocked if that leads to concentrated targets for Brenton Strange.

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Tyler Huntley

NegativeInjury3:06

Out for the season; initially thought to be a few weeks but confirmed as full-season absence.

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Tyler Warren

PositiveProjection63:24

Tyler Warren is a decent PPR play as long as he stays healthy; the source projects around 10 targets per week, which supports PPR value despite a low worry-o-meter rating of 10-15.

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Woody Marks

PositiveValue10:00

In a trade comparison, Woody Marks for Omari and Hampton is evaluated as favoring Marks. The source prefers Marks even though Montgomery could be back this week, suggesting Marks has more secure usage than Hampton.

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Zach Charbonnet

NegativeMatchup51:24

In a start-sit comparison, Zach Charbonnet is not preferred over Derek Henry, indicating the source favors Henry's matchup or usage.

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Zay Flowers

NegativeProjection3:18

Listed as a Worryometer Wednesday topic for Week 9 analysis.

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NegativeRole3:23

On the Worry-O-Meter, Zay Flowers is ranked as the second-most worried player, indicating concern about his performance or role.

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NegativeValue26:48

The source argues for buying low on Zay Flowers despite Tyler Huntley being out for the year. The rationale: the source refuses to believe the Ravens will stick with Joe Flacco or unknown backup quarterbacks for the rest of the season, expecting a move for a better quarterback after the Thursday game. Supporting data shows that wide receivers on bottom-five passing offenses over the last three seasons have still produced; Zay Flowers averaged 14.7 PPR points per game last year on a team ranked fifth-worst in gross passing yards per game. The source also notes Flowers had a great game with Tyler Huntley, catching a big play at the line of scrimmage, suggesting he can produce regardless of quarterback quality. The source prefers to buy low on Flowers rather than sell low on Derrick Henry.

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NegativeUsage45:00

Zay Flowers had zero touches in the Jacksonville vs. Baltimore game, making it difficult to recommend him over running backs with 20+ carry potential. The source ranks him at WR24 and notes that projections do not compute for him. He is characterized as a boom-or-bust play with upside potential but is not preferred over Derek Henry or Jonah Coleman in start-sit comparisons.

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NegativeUsage45:37

Had zero touches in the game discussed; source notes he has a better chance of creating a long play than running backs with 20-touch potential, making him fine to start if upside is needed but comparable to Parker Washington in a boom-or-bust profile.

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PositiveProjection45:59

Source would start Zay Flowers over Henry in full PPR format, indicating preference for his upside in that scoring system.

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2:46There are alligators swimming in neighborhoods. I haven't seen one in my neighborhood yet, but there are alligators swimming in neighborhoods.
2:52It is flooding very badly down here. Nothing that is anything to worry about from a life-threatening standpoint, at least that I haven't seen.
3:00But please be safe. The roads are bad. They're very bad.
3:04Yeah, crazy stuff. All right, so on a brighter note, it's fantasy football time.
3:08It's time to make some trades. We can tell you who we're trading for, who we're trading away.
3:14We've got the Worryometer. On a brighter note, it's Worryometer Wednesday.
3:18We're going to talk about Parker Washington, Saquon Barkley, Chase Brown, Justin Jefferson, Ashton Gentey.
3:23Who else? Emeka Buka and others. And others. Zay Flowers, of course.
3:26You know, I didn't realize Tyler Huntley was going to miss the year.
3:31They were talking about him being, eh, I'm not sure he's going to be able to play on Thursday.
3:37That made me think maybe it'll be a few weeks.
3:40He's out for the season, so that's not so good for Tyler Huntley.
3:44We'll start with the... Obviously, I thought you were going to say it's not Superversay Flowers.
3:49I'm sorry. It's really not good for Tyler Huntley.
3:52Feel bad for him. Basial Tootin not practicing. I saw you updated the waiver wire column.
3:57Did you move up Chris Rodriguez? I did. I did.
4:01I think it's just, you know, reading some of the beat writers' reports.
4:05One in particular, you know, we talked about this guy quite a bit in the preseason.
4:10John Shipley covers the team for, I believe it's USA Today.
4:14And suggesting that, you know, Chris Rodriguez could have a big opportunity in front of him if he gets the opportunity to play.
4:21We'll see. Today's a big day. You know, so my guess is he'll be listed as questionable in terms of Tootin.
4:28And just make sure you have a backup plan.
4:31So Rodriguez would be a borderline top 20 running back if he gets the opportunity to start.
4:36Chris Rodriguez in a game that we're going to preview later today.
4:40Let me see. He has... Oh, shoot. For those of you who are part of the show, Jamie and Thomas.
4:47Oh, sorry. First time I've done that. Jamie and Sam.
4:50You're off to a great start. I sent you the notes today, and I put the wrong game in the notes.
4:57I put my Green Bay, New England preview in the notes.
5:00We're actually going to talk about Jacksonville and Baltimore.
5:03But Chris Rodriguez has like 11 catches in his career or something like that.
5:08So I wonder how... One of them came last week.
5:11Yeah. I wonder how many he'd catch this week if he were the starting running back.
5:16Other news items? I'm going to guess the over-under would probably be one and a half.
5:21What would you take? If he is the starter, I would take the over.
5:26Me too. Tyler Huntley's out for the season. Joe Fignano is going to start this week.
5:31Aaron Glenn said that Brees Hall is our guy.
5:34And then he said, I'm assuming Brees is our guy.
5:37And he said, Braylon Allen is a beast. So we'll see how that situation plays out.
5:42Do you think if you walked down the streets of New York, the streets of Manhattan, with a picture of Joe Fasano?
5:49How do you say his name? Fagnano. Fagnano. Do you think...
5:53How many people... If you ran into 100 people, you showed the picture to 100 people, how many would know who he is?
6:00Zero, including the guy holding it. I don't even know what Joe Fignano looks like.
6:05Well, I mean, he did play at UConn, so there might be some...
6:09Yeah. They don't know. They don't go to the games there.
6:13Come on. Jeremiah Love is on IR. Tyler Algier is now the most added player, up to 77% roster.
6:19Don't forget. I have a feeling we're going to get the wrong guy.
6:23Yeah. Actually, Zonovan Knight's on the most dropped list.
6:26He has gone from 55% to 49%. I know he has the concussion.
6:30That's usually a zero-to-one-week absence. And this is at least a four-week absence for Jeremiah Love.
6:36It actually could be six. Mm-hmm. Right. Because they have their bye.
6:40Yeah. But I think they said five- to six-week injury.
6:43So if I have the... Their bye is week 14.
6:46Mm-hmm. And the four-game window is week 13? Yes.
6:49He has to miss weeks 9, 10, 11, 12.
6:52So he could come back in week 13. Correct.
6:55And then their bye is week 14. So you would assume that they may just be cautious with it and he may sit through the bye.
7:03Yeah. Absolutely. And... But their playoff schedule is great.
7:06What's their record, you know? What's the incentive to bring him back if he's not 100% healthy?
7:12I mean, I think you want to see what you have in your first-round pick.
7:16But yeah, Zonovan Knight, I wouldn't say that you must...
7:20I would add him. I wouldn't let him be unrostered in any of my leagues.
7:24The way that I rewrote it in the column was that don't be surprised if not Zonovan Knight is better.
7:31You might get a one-week window of Tyler Algier being better.
7:35But for the majority of the time that Love is out, Knight averaged 10-something PPR points.
7:40Just shy of 11 PPR points in the two games that Love missed.
7:44Algier was like 7.5. 6.5. Yep. I'm going to give you the stat one last time.
7:49Second quarter, Bam Knight played 16 snaps. Tyler Algier played four.
7:53And of those four snaps, let's see how many came.
7:56I don't think any of them came after the Knight injury.
7:59But 16 snaps to four for Knight. And then Knight got hurt.
8:03Jeremy McNichols is on IR, which I think is helpful for Rashad White.
8:08Instead of it being a three-way split, it'll be a two-way split.
8:11Tell them for Eckler, too. Absolutely. I was about to say, you know, I'm very desperate for running back in a league.
8:19And I don't know if I got him. I don't know if we ran waivers last night.
8:24But I put in a bid for Austin Eckler.
8:27And the Raiders could apparently go with the hot hand at running back.
8:31You know, let's take a look before Heath gets here at the most traded list, Jamie.
8:36And Ollie Gordon is the most traded player. I'm going to give you some guys.
8:41And you just tell me, generally speaking, are you buying or selling?
8:45Ollie Gordon as the most traded player? I'd be selling.
8:48Mostly because of picking him up off waivers with the hope that I had other players on my team.
8:54Yeah. Okay. But not because we think he's going to be bad.
8:58Correct. And Chase Brown is the second most traded player.
9:02I'd be buying. Would you rather have Gordon or Brown?
9:05Brown. Josh Jacobs is the third most traded player.
9:08Understandable. Trying to get something for him before something trade or suspension happens.
9:12I had a trade offer in an analyst league.
9:15It's a dynasty league. So somebody who was tanking offered me Josh Jacobs and Jordan Mason.
9:20This was prior to last week. Josh Jacobs, Jordan Mason for Deshaun Stribbling and my first round pick.
9:26And I said no. This is an old dynasty league, you said?
9:30It's a dynasty league. At the time, I was in first place.
9:34I'm now in second place. I'm sorry. I'm now in third place.
9:37Had a terrible loss. I actually lost to the team that tried to make me the trade and was tanking and tanking very poorly.
9:45Because that set a very good lineup. I said, I rejected the offer.
9:49I said, I'll give you Stribbling for Jacobs if you'd like.
9:53I'll take the chance on Jacobs still playing. But my concern is that he doesn't finish the season.
9:59And the manager said no. I'm going to give you some actual trades that have happened in our leagues.
10:05Who wins this trade? Our leagues or CBS leagues?
10:08CBS leagues. Gotcha. Nico Collins for Josh Jacobs. The Nico side.
10:11Ali Gordon for Josh Jacobs. I'll say for now, the Jacobs side.
10:15Jordan Love for Josh Jacobs. The Jacobs side. Matthew Golden for Josh Jacobs.
10:20The Golden side. DJ Moore for Josh Jacobs. For now, the Moore side.
10:24If Jacobs doesn't get suspended any further, I'd take him over Nico Collins and DJ Moore.
10:29Sure. But you would not. It's pretty close though, I assume.
10:32I mean, I'm factoring in the potential suspension or trade.
10:36Yeah. Justin Jefferson for Josh Jacobs. Jefferson. He's the third.
10:39He's the fourth most traded player. And he's going to be on our worryometer later.
10:44Oh, you know what? I'm curious to see because Omari and Hampton is the sixth most traded player or fifth most traded player.
10:51Let me go to his trade page. What the heck are people getting for Omari and Hampton right now?
10:57Let's see. Braylon Allen for Omari and Hampton. I mean, if you fear that Brees Hall is just taking over the job, then I don't know.
11:06I'd still rather have Braylon Allen. Me too. Jonah Coleman for Omari and Hampton.
11:10No way. Take Coleman, right? No way. Romo Doonze for Omari and Hampton.
11:15No, I'd rather have Odoonze. He looks good the last two weeks.
11:18How about Woody Marks for Omari and Hampton? I'd rather have Marks.
11:22Even though Montgomery could be back this week. Yeah, I mean, we don't know that Montgomery is getting the lead rollback.
11:29I don't know who the hell I would give up to get Omari and Hampton.
11:34I can't think of a single player on my roster.
11:37I think if you picked up a Cardinals running back and you wanted to see their end of season schedule isn't as brutal.
11:45Yeah, I think if I had a backup quarterback or something, I might trade for Omari and Hampton.
11:50No, I mean, like I don't need a quarterback.
11:53Yeah, I get it. Yeah. You know, maybe something like that.
11:57All right. Let's get to you. I have two leagues where I drafted Hampton either first or second round.
12:03One, I'm in second place and one, I'm absolutely, it's a disgusting team.
12:07Disgusting bad? It's all bad. Yeah. I only have one Hampton team and it was one of my favorite teams.
12:14I have A.J. Brown and Omari and Hampton. We're not doing so great.
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12:36It was fun. Trade talk. Jamie's buys. Jamie sells.
12:39And we'll talk about Heath's whether he is able to get in or not.
12:43But, Jamie, you want to buy Jalen Coker and Caleb Douglas.
12:47And Jamie's moving away from buy low, sell high.
12:50Although, there'll be some of that. But just players he wants to acquire.
12:54Jalen Coker, Caleb Douglas. I mean, look, Coker's had a couple of bad games recently.
12:59And mediocre games recently. I know he scored a touchdown last week.
13:03But I still think there's plenty of love about the situation.
13:06And clearly the Panthers are trying to, you know, tweak some things and make things work.
13:11You know, changing defensive coaches, you know, changing some things on the offensive side of the ball.
13:17The offensive line is going to be a work in progress.
13:20So we'll see how that goes. But they've just run into a little bit of a tough stretch of games.
13:27And I think Coker's still going to, you know, get his opportunities as targets.
13:31This is a very concentrated offense where you know that McMillan and Coker are going to lead the team in targets every week.
13:39The majority of weeks, I should say. And I still think that Bryce Young can get things right, at least to a
13:46point where, you know, they're going to be heavily involved and still productive.
13:50So clearly the value is down at this point.
13:53And I think there's still a lot to love about Coker's situation.
13:57For Douglas, the schedule is just amazing coming up.
14:00And, you know, you said it on Tuesday show, I guess it had to be Tuesday show, just how good he looks.
14:07Like he just, he looks the part of what could be an alpha type receiver.
14:12And I think he's a playmaker. As we saw in the Jets game, he gets the Jets coming up in a few weeks.
14:19This week's matchup against Detroit is very favorable. And so I'm hoping that we see some shootouts for the Dolphins because like
14:26this week against Detroit, I think Detroit will put up points against them.
14:31Six targets last week in a tough matchup against New England.
14:34I think there's going to be a lot of big games coming for him.
14:39And this is a guy you can get cheap, you know.
14:42So I tried to find someone that you could probably get off somebody's bench that's not going to cost you a lot.
14:49Especially, you know, coming off a little bit of a disappointing game for a guy that missed three games early this season with an ankle injury.
14:58So I would be trying to trade for Caleb Douglas if you need receiver help.
15:03For Coker, how much does it concern you that three of his next five games are against Denver, Tampa Bay, and Minnesota?
15:10It's not ideal. But you're still going to get probably seven targets a game.
15:14So I think you just treat him as a number three receiver as opposed to a must-star guy.
15:20But again, somebody you're going to get cheap at this point.
15:24And there's the thing with this team, the Panthers.
15:27It's like they've had two pretty concerning offensive games in a row.
15:30And yeah, I'm not worried about it, right? You know, I'm a little concerned.
15:35Tampa Bay is a good defense. Green Bay is a good defense.
15:39Tenth best. And then they've got Denver this week.
15:42So if you want to believe in Coker and McMillan and maybe even Young bouncing back, you've got to be willing to
15:49accept a bad game in week nine. I'm not guaranteeing that's going to happen.
15:53But they're playing Denver. Their offensive line has been a little shaky the last couple weeks.
15:59And now you've got this pass rush. So you might have to be patient.
16:03But Coker, you would think, would be a little more immune to it because he plays in the slot.
16:09He's not going downfield as much as... He's not going to see Sertan.
16:13McMillan. Yeah. I don't even know if I want to start McMillan this week.
16:18I think I'm looking forward to talking about that one.
16:21Okay. And then you want to sell a couple of running backs, Mike Washington Jr.
16:26and Brees Hall. I think both relative to the obvious why.
16:30You know, you just gave the comment about what Frank Reich said.
16:33And clearly Braylon Allen has looked great. So he's coming back to some level of a timeshare.
16:39Whether that's 50-50, 60-40, you know, I would think in his favor.
16:43But, you know, some level of timeshare. And whatever Braylon Allen's going to do is going to impact Brees Hall.
16:49So there's also potential trade that could happen between now and next Tuesday.
16:54I'd be surprised if they did that. But that's something that could still happen.
16:58I just think you're looking at a guy whose name is going to carry some weight.
17:03And as we've said time and time again, you can trade.
17:07You can get more in trade from giving away running backs, if that makes sense.
17:12You can get more back from trading away running backs that have the potential to still be, I think, top 20 caliber guys.
17:19I think that's still within the range of possibilities for Brees Hall.
17:23I saw you put Brees Hall on the trading block in one of our leagues last night.
17:28And I was like, good luck, man. Because I haven't had any luck trying to trade him.
17:34I think people are genuinely concerned about Brees Hall.
17:37I'll look up some trades that have happened involving Brees Hall in CBS leagues.
17:41But I'm really nervous about him. I really think Braylon Allen is...
17:45I'm going to give Braylon Allen a 51% chance to be the goal line back.
17:50That's fair. Yeah. And it could also be a situation where in the first game or two, with them both playing together, Allen is even better.
17:59I think if I saw correctly, and I could be wrong, both Heath and Dave have Allen ranked ahead of Hall.
18:05This week? This week. Okay. No, I'm not there yet.
18:09But I still think Brees Hall could be a top 20 guy.
18:12You hear that sound? Is that Heath? Oh, no.
18:15I thought it was Heath. It'll be Heath. Next time you hear that, boop.
18:20He's on his way. He's on his way. He's on his way.
18:24And then in the case of Mike Washington, this is the easiest guy to try and flip if you can because everybody's trying to spend fab on him.
18:33He just had 25 carries. Don't know if that's going to happen again.
18:37And obviously, Ashton Gentry's still healthy. So whatever you can get in return for him, I would try and do so.
18:44Not giving him away, but this is an easy sell-high candidate.
18:47I want to contribute somehow to the show. So I have a couple of guys.
18:52I think it's hard to buy low right now.
18:55I'm more interested in buying high, but I think there's a couple of guys that I can make a good case for as buy lows.
19:03So I'm going to do that when we come back.
19:06We will be right back, hopefully with Heath, on Fantasy Football today.
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22:36I feel like you're going to agree with me.
22:39Chase Brown has one touchdown. He doesn't have a touchdown since week one.
22:43He had one call back in week eight. I'm not saying there are no red flags here.
22:49It's five straight games with no more than 13 carries.
22:52I don't think he's going to be great as a rusher.
22:56But I also don't think that Samaj P. Ryan is the goal linebacker.
23:00Not to say that he won't mix in there at some point, but that one-yard touchdown run P.
23:06Ryan had, I'm not too concerned about it. We're also talking about a guy who's getting six targets a game in Chase Brown.
23:13If you take away the game that Jamar Chase left with an injury, it's five targets a game.
23:19That's still really good. If he catches 80% of those, which he should, four catches a game, that's 68 catches in a year.
23:26So I like Chase Brown. I think this is going to be the low point for him.
23:32You've got Atlanta this week. They give up the fourth most fantasy points to running back.
23:37I think we've passed the low point. Well, he did score 16.1 points, but I think people are still fine.
23:43I still think this is, it's only going to go up from here, his value.
23:48I don't think you're wrong in what you're saying.
23:51I just think the low point was the Miami game when Samaj P.
23:55Ryan out-snapped him. Fair enough. But you still have a chance to buy low.
24:00The other guy is Parker Washington. Wait. And, you know, my concern with Parker Washington is that he's got four touchdowns this year.
24:07They've all been like sort of spectacular. But I'm concerned about them blowing out some teams on their schedule.
24:13I mean, their next four games are Baltimore, Tennessee, the Giants, and Tennessee.
24:18Tennessee's been pretty competitive. The Giants are in first place.
24:21I don't think they blow out all of them.
24:24There could be two blowouts here. And the thing is, this team, the Jaguars are like 25th in pass rate.
24:30So something like that. So when they start pulling away, they are not throwing a lot.
24:35Do you want to hear something crazy? Heath's here?
24:38That is pretty crazy. Heath, does he swim here?
24:41Yes. It's a little wet. This is from the Action Network.
24:45Okay. I'm sorry. Action News in Jacksonville. Excuse me.
24:48His name is Daniel Griffiths. Griffiths. G-R-I-F-F-I-S. From the Action News Network in Jacksonville.
24:52Trevor Lawrence has been pulled early in eight of the last Jaguars' 15 games.
24:57Wow. He has missed a total in those times that he's been pulled.
25:01A total of 89 minutes. Man, that's wild. That's a great stat.
25:05Yeah. So I think my basic argument for him is just he's too good.
25:09He's awesome. And he'll get his production, Parker Washington I'm talking about here, Heath.
25:14And I would buy low on him, even though I know it's like four of the last five games really haven't been that good.
25:22So this is a great opportunity to buy low.
25:25Who is the NFL MVP right now? Yeah. It's funny you say that because last night I was thinking that he doesn't
25:32have the numbers right now, but Trevor Lawrence probably is a top five candidate.
25:36Oh, he's definitely in the top five. I think it's got to be Allen, Purdy, Burrow, Lawrence, Mahomes, and Burrow.
25:43Burrow. That's a good five. Yeah. I'd probably vote Purdy today.
25:46McCarthy? No? Not McCarthy? Maybe. Maybe. Is your street underwater?
25:50Parts. Parts. Not entirely. Yeah. We've got a pretty well-draining area.
25:53I think the school, like some of the schools, I guess probably you know this, canceled.
25:58My wife did not. Two of my kids' schools have been canceled, I guess.
26:03So I think my wife was kayaking through the parking lot to get to the front door of the school.
26:09Good times. Were your kids off of school yesterday?
26:12For election day, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's two days in a row?
26:16Man, that's tough. You got an election day off and then a rain day.
26:21Yeah. Like not, back in my day, we just went to school when it rained.
26:25I don't get, I mean, I never went to, I don't think I had election day off, but they vote at my
26:33kids' school, so I get why they had election day off.
26:36Tough for parents. All right, Heath, let's talk about your trade targets.
26:40You want to buy high on Jonah Coleman. Do you still want to buy low on Zay Flowers now that Huntley's out for the year?
26:48Yes. I just simply refuse to believe that they are going to go with Joe Fignano the rest of the way or
26:55anybody of these other names of quarterbacks that 75% of NFL fans have never heard of.
27:00I think that we, like, this is probably on a short week.
27:04Wasn't enough time to get anybody ready anyway, but I think after the Thursday game, they make a move and get somebody
27:11that's not good, but probably not worse than Huntley.
27:14And Zay Flowers will still be a wide receiver, too.
27:18Okay. Yeah, I have some data to support your case.
27:21Just kind of looking at wide receivers who have been on horrible offenses over the last three seasons and where they have finished and where the hell is.
27:30Okay. Best wide receivers on a team that was bottom five in gross passing yards per game last three seasons.
27:36Three years ago, we didn't really have anyone good.
27:39Well, I'm sorry. I was waiting for you to say Zay Flowers all three years.
27:44Last year, Zay Flowers. Yeah, he was he was on a team that was fifth worst in gross passing yards per game or fifth lowest.
27:52I should say any average 14.7 PPR points per game, which is good.
27:56It's not good. Probably not good enough to win the bet, but it's good.
28:01Three years ago, there was nobody really. Two years ago, we had five wide receivers average 14 or more PPR fantasy points.
28:08That would be Adam Thielen, AJ Brown, Devante Smith, Malik Neighbors and DJ Moore.
28:13And not all of them were like really great or must-start.
28:16In fact, only I would say only Neighbors and AJ Brown were must-start guys.
28:21Devante Smith got his production, I think, a lot when AJ Brown or Dallas Goddard were out.
28:26But either way, you'd say Devante Smith was close to a must-start for the full season, but it was kind of split
28:33based on who was in or out. But you did have five wide receivers average 14 or more PPR fantasy points on bottom five passing offenses in 2024.
28:42And last year, we had Garrett Wilson in his six healthy games was awesome.
28:47And the Jets were terrible. I mean, the Jets averaged 175 passing yards per game in the first six games of the year.
28:54Garrett Wilson was a top 12 wide receiver. Harold Fannin was tight end eight last year on the Browns.
29:00Justin Jefferson was bad. Zay Flowers was a good example of 14.7 points per game.
29:05And you think about the great game that he had with Tyler Huntley.
29:09It's not like Tyler Huntley did something great in that game.
29:13Like the big play, he caught at the line of scrimmage.
29:17So I am more encouraged just to transition to the other guy on the Ravens I put on the list.
29:23I'd be more likely to sell low on Derrick Henry, whereas I'm trying to buy low on Zay Flowers.
29:29It's three straight games with 60 scrimmage yards or fewer.
29:32I don't think whoever they add at quarterback is going to open up the rushing lanes for him.
29:38And they're going to lose a lot of games.
29:41He's bad in losses. And they're not going to score a lot of touchdowns.
29:46And he needs touchdowns. If Devontae Smith does not play another game, who wins the bet?
29:51Zay Flowers. Assuming that he plays in the fantasy playoffs.
29:54He's going to have to average more than 17 points per game from here on out.
29:59No. If Devontae Smith doesn't play another game, then Zay Flowers wins the total season.
30:04Devontae Smith wins the per game. The tiebreaker was the fantasy playoffs.
30:08If Devontae Smith doesn't play, then Zay Flowers wins the bet.
30:12You made too many. You are on air agreeing to that.
30:15So shut up. You just made too many of the terms here.
30:19I think the bet should be thrown out. I think we should both donate $500 to St.
30:25Jude and just throw the bet out. This is not representative of who these players are or were supposed to be.
30:31Okay. 100% is. They're both on a fair game basis having a career year.
30:36Yeah, but I mean going forward, it's not representative of what.
30:39Okay, look. I tried. It didn't work. Heath. All right.
30:43So Heath wants to buy low on Zay Flowers.
30:46Buy high on Jonah Coleman. Yeah, I just think.
30:48I mean, first off, the Broncos schedule is fantastic in the second half of the season.
30:54I don't think there is any. Like, even Sean Payton isn't going to mess this up.
30:59There's just a huge gap between what Jonah Coleman can do and what J.K.
31:03Dobbins can do right now with the football in their hands.
31:07R.J. Harvey and Tyler Bidet are both on IR, so they can't mess it up for a little while.
31:13And I think by the time they get back, Coleman will be established as just the clear R.B.
31:19one on this team. He's a top 20 running back this week and rest of the season, and he may be a
31:26game or two away from us talking about him in the top 15.
31:30Jonah Coleman played more snaps in terms of percentage last week than R.J.
31:34Harvey or J.K. Dobbins have played in any game this season.
31:38He played 66% of the snaps. Would you rather have Derrick Henry or Jonah Coleman rest of the season?
31:44Coleman. J.M. Today I would say Coleman, but I want to see what the quarterback situation is.
31:50Like, if they get Mac Jones, for example, like if they overpay the 49ers and get Mac Jones, or if they get
31:57Jacoby Brissett, I think that will be okay for the Ravens.
32:00Like, there are some scenarios here where the offense can be saved.
32:04Yeah, I agree. I just think that those, like, I might be more excited if the Chiefs are, like, have bought into
32:11their rookie and decide, let's send them Justin Fields.
32:14Then at least maybe that will help the rushing efficiency for the Ravens offense.
32:19I'm not sure Jacoby's going to help that. He was not throwing the ball down the field.
32:24It's just going to be nine guys to line a scrimmage every play.
32:28So, don't forget, though, with Jonah Coleman that the Broncos reportedly are in the Jonathan Taylor sweepstakes.
32:34That's the biggest factor is that I don't know why.
32:37I mean, you have a running back on a rookie deal.
32:41You still have J.K. Dobbins for the rest of this season who, you know, it's not like he was terrible.
32:47And they were dealing with a very difficult schedule, which was part of this.
32:52Plus, you still have R.J. Harvey coming back at some point.
32:55Like, I get Jonathan Taylor makes you better totally from an NFL standpoint.
33:00Just doesn't also make sense that you're going to overpay and, you know, ruin your future for a position that's not exactly a huge need for you.
33:08All right. So, oh, sorry. We do have a little breaking news from Adam Schefter that Brandon Ayuk has turned in his
33:15paperwork and will be reporting to the 49ers facility on Friday.
33:19They're going to let him in? That as soon as he shows up, they got to start paying him or they got to cut him.
33:27Yeah. Well, the NFL has to reinstate him or no?
33:30Yes. And they will. He's well, I don't know.
33:33I don't remember him having anything that would prevent that.
33:36Yeah. Right. No, I guess you're right. OK, so it's a recap.
33:40And we still have one more player to talk about here.
33:44To recap, Jamie says by Jalen Coker and Caleb Douglas sell Mike Washington Jr.
33:48and Brees Hall. Heath says by Jonah Coleman. Sell Derek Henry and buy Zay Flowers.
33:53And sell Isaiah Likely. Yeah, I just think. And I wish I would have said sell Isaiah Likely three weeks ago.
34:00I'm just not confident the same target volume is going to be there with J.J.
34:05McCarthy for him as it was with Jameis Winston.
34:08It looked like it was going to be with Jackson Dart.
34:11I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
34:15But the nice thing now is one, the bye week's over.
34:18So you can use that as a selling point.
34:21Two, we're a week removed from the worst production.
34:24So you can just point to that season long scoring average and hope that you can get somebody to buy him as
34:31a top four or five tight end. I still think he'll be a starter.
34:36Like, I don't think we're ever going to be replacing Isaiah Likely.
34:40But I don't think he's going to be the difference maker he was early in the season.
34:45He's had a 13% and a 14.3% target per route run rate with J.J.
34:50McCarthy. That translates to a 16% target share in about in five quarters with J.J.
34:55McCarthy, which is a super small sample size. But yeah, we did talk about this a week ago.
35:00McCarthy's been throwing a Malachi Fields a decent amount and not to Isaiah Likely.
35:05Obviously, we expect Likely to have more targets than Fields.
35:08It's not set in stone, but we expect that.
35:11But yeah, it's a little bit of a trend to watch.
35:15So you'd go Isaiah Likely for a struggle. Oh, I think Sam Laporta is a good buy low too.
35:21He has faced the last two games have been against Minnesota and Green Bay, by the way.
35:26And they are number one and number two against tight ends right now.
35:31So I would think better times are ahead. He had a 20% target share in week eight.
35:36Laporta did after like a 5% target share in week seven.
35:40Anywho, what's the difference between Likely and Laporta? What would you want with Laporta to get Likely?
35:45Or if you're giving up Likely, you'd want Laporta and?
35:48And upgrade at another position. Laporta and? I don't even need a starter at another position.
35:54I'll give you a worse wide receiver two for a better wide receiver two.
35:58Laporta and Caleb Douglas. Really? I don't think there's a single rookie wide receiver other than Carnell Tate that I feel like
36:05I'm going to be confident putting in my lineup on a weekly basis.
36:09Oh, you'll be confident about two weeks every month.
36:12And those are the weeks they're bad. Also, I'm just so...
36:16It'll be a good week for Fields because he had a good one before the buy.
36:21So he's got another one coming this week. Perfect.
36:24I'm really glad Johnny Airport. Thomas stuck around. In high school, Adam was voted most likely to back out of a deal.
36:31That's awesome. So I think I forgot to mention Carnell Tate.
36:35You could argue he's got the best schedule of any player.
36:38And I'm saying that without really knowing everyone's schedule.
36:41But here's where his upcoming opponents rank against wide receivers.
36:44Carnell Tate. 27th, 26th, 27th, 21st, 29th, 7th, 22nd, and 9th.
36:48Now, I would say that with Jacksonville, two of the next three games being against Jacksonville, I think Travis Hunter's a very good cornerback.
36:56I saw him shadow Nico Collins and do a really good job.
37:00Do they shadow Carnell Tate with Travis Hunter? It's possible.
37:03But wide receivers are putting up numbers against the Jaguars.
37:06If you look at Detroit in five weeks, they could be healthier.
37:10And by the way, Detroit's been much better the last three weeks.
37:14They haven't been the layup that we've been hoping for.
37:17So I think Tate's schedule might be kind of fool's gold.
37:21But Cam Ward is coming off arguably the best game of his career.
37:25Carnell Tate's coming off a bad game and a bye.
37:28So another guy you might want to buy. Not like don't think he's going to win you your league.
37:34But can he get 14 fantasy points per game?
37:37I think he could, which is right around RB 20.
37:40Who will be the best rookie wide receiver by the end of the season?
37:45Him. I don't even know who else it would be.
37:48Oh, there's lots of candidates. I forgot about Tyson, yeah.
37:51I say Tate, though. Well, I mean, another couple of big games from Omar Cooper.
37:56He might run away with it. Makai Lemon's emerging.
37:59No. Antonio Williams? No. I mean, you're very dismissive of these guys.
38:03I'm joking. Caleb Douglas? Is anyone in a better setup than Tate, though?
38:07Definitely not. Oh, I think Tyson is if he's healthy.
38:10He's got a lobby to deal with. Yeah, but the volume could be amazing.
38:15Who is currently the number one rookie wide receiver in fantasy points per game?
38:19Points per game? Yeah. Is this dribbling? No. Oh.
38:22Hmm. I'm going to say Tate. Yeah. Bernard? Omar Cooper.
38:26Really? Caleb Douglas is second. Carnell Tate's third. Let's go to a quick break, and when we come back, we'll talk about Jackson.
38:33Who's the best rookie running back? What would you say?
38:36Best rookie running back? Coleman? Yeah. So, looking. I mean, you have to scroll.
38:41Let's do a tease. Please. Okay. Okay. When we come back, the best rookie running back and the easiest game of the week to preview after this.
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41:08Place your bets. Jamie, who's the number one rookie running back per game?
41:12Jonah Coleman. I agree. Heath? And it's not really close.
41:15Yeah. I was trying to think. You know, at the end of the year, I do the superlatives.
41:21Like, there's no rookie quarterbacks. We'll have a couple of rookie-wide receivers that emerge and have great second halves.
41:27The receivers, I think, are okay. You know, it's funny because we were kind of downplaying this class as potentially terrible.
41:34And I think we've gotten two games, but some pockets of success for these guys.
41:39The running backs by the end of the season, my guess will be Coleman.
41:44And it's not going to be Jeremiah Love. It could be Jadarian Price.
41:48Hey, guess who's here? Could be Mike Washington. Jacob Gibbs.
41:51Jacob is here. Hello, Jacob. Hey, everybody. What's up?
41:54How are we doing? He's been reinstated like Brandon Ayuk.
41:57He's going to be in this? Welcome back. What was this Ayuk stuff?
42:01He's back. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know if I want to be compared to Ayuk.
42:07I feel like I have better work ethic. No, no.
42:10I just met. You're back. He's being traded to the Chiefs.
42:13That would be very exciting for me, actually. All right.
42:17Jacob's going to help us talk about Jacksonville and Baltimore, then the Worryometer, and then whatever the heck he wants to talk about to end the show.
42:25Let's talk Jacksonville, Baltimore. I said it's the easiest game to preview, but I actually don't.
42:30I think that's a really stupid take. Concern of the game.
42:34Does Jacksonville throw enough when they win by 14 or more points?
42:38If they win by 14 or more points. I think they're 10 and a half point favorites.
42:43Well, they haven't had a game where they've won by like 14.
42:47They have three games where they've won by 24 or more points.
42:51And in those three games, they've thrown 23, 29, and 17 passes.
42:55So, you know, you could see this being a low pass volume game for Lawrence.
43:00And then here's cool stat, Hansel. Since week four, Brenton Strange is second among tight ends in target per out run rate behind TJ Hawkinson.
43:08That is pretty cool, Hansel. All right. Anyway, Jamie, I'll give you Jacksonville.
43:12J for Jacksonville. J for Jamie. Who do you like in this game?
43:16Start Trevor Lawrence. Start Basial Tootin if he plays.
43:19Start Chris Rodriguez if Basial Tootin is out. Start Parker Washington.
43:23Brenton Strange is a good streaming tight end. If you're desperate, Jacoby Myers.
43:27Okay. Trevor Lawrence or Dak Prescott at the Colts?
43:30Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence or Jaden Daniels against the Rams?
43:33Lawrence. Lawrence or Stafford? Lawrence. Lawrence or Love at New England?
43:36Lawrence. Does anyone disagree? Not with those names. He's my QB six.
43:40So there's five guys I would start over Trevor Lawrence.
43:44But he's pretty much a must-start quarterback that hopefully gets it done.
43:47In the first three quarters. Who are your five guys ahead of him?
43:52I have Burrow, Purdy, Goff, May, Allen. I would start Lawrence over Allen this week.
43:57Allen at Minnesota Monday night. Okay. Jacob, if Basial Tootin doesn't play, where are you going to rank Chris Rodriguez against the Ravens?
44:04Yeah, pretty high. Heath, what do you think about Patrick Mahomes over Trevor Lawrence?
44:09I think I have them back-to-back in the rankings and less than a half a point apart in the projections.
44:15And so flip a coin. Okay. Yeah, so I have Basial Tootin easily as a top 10 guy.
44:21Actually, I'm a top five guy if he plays.
44:24I think if he's out, Chris Rodriguez pushes up into that top 15-ish range.
44:28I think it drops off pretty hard after that.
44:31So he'd be like right behind Chase Brown, Jonah Coleman for me this week.
44:36Okay. Baltimore's got a good run defense. I will give them that.
44:403.8 yards per carry to running backs. Eighth best against the position.
44:43Second fewest receiving yards per game allowed. James Cook just had 21 carries for 80 yards and a touchdown and two catches for 21 yards.
44:52He had a very good game, but it wasn't exactly the easiest game for him.
44:56And then for Parker Washington, would you guys start Parker Washington or Jonah Coleman this week?
45:02Coleman. Yep. Fair enough, yeah. Parker Washington or Chris Rodriguez if Basial Tootin were out?
45:06Washington. Yeah. Yep. Where do you have Washington? 20?
45:09Round 18? Yeah, I have him very high again.
45:1216. Where do you have Zay Flowers? I have Zay at 21.
45:1624? I think I couldn't get the projections to work on Zay Flowers.
45:20It does not compute. It does not compute. So I just put him at 24.
45:25All right. Would you start someone like Quinchan Judkins at the Saints over Zay Flowers?
45:30Not in PPR. Okay. Would you start Derek Henry or Zay Flowers?
45:34Henry. Yeah, I mean, Zay Flowers had zero touches.
45:37So it's hard to say to start him over any of these running backs that could have 20.
45:43I think that he has a better chance of creating a long play than these guys.
45:48Like, he's fine to start if you need upside.
45:51But yeah, I do see him kind of similar to Parker Washington where it's like kind of nothing or a big play and that's it.
45:59I would start Zay over Henry and full PPR Henry in the other two formats.
46:04How would you rank Ollie Gordon? This is just for the Henry conversation.
46:08This is the first game without Jacksonville's interior defensive lineman.
46:11Yeah, right. Devon Hamilton. He plays about 50% of the snaps.
46:15He played 18% of the snaps last week. They rotate guys a lot.
46:19That's a potential problem when everybody's healthy. It's not a problem when you're missing guys.
46:24But like that's a big piece of their defense.
46:27Yeah, I mean, last week they played the Jaguars.
46:30I mean, yeah, they played the Colts and held Jonathan Taylor to eight carries for 23 yards.
46:35And Hamilton barely played in that game. So it is possible that they're going to have a very good run defense even without him.
46:43You know, you look at the Commanders, for example, and I'm not sure I buy it going forward.
46:49But the Commanders played last week against Barkley, who's been great all year, did a great job against him.
46:55They did that without two starting defensive tackles. So it might be a scheme thing.
47:00You know, it might be more than just one.
47:03It's just like I'm not so down on Derek Henry just because of the Jacksonville run defense.
47:08Like it's been three bad weeks in a row, and I just don't think the team can.
47:14The offensive line is awful. Well, he scored last week.
47:17He scored 14 points. He has 60 yards from scrimmage or fewer in three straight games.
47:22He's not going to. I mean, they're 10 and a half point underdogs.
47:26He's not going to run that much. Well, he might not run that much.
47:31I agree. I'm terrified. I give you four points.
47:34And by the way, one thing that might help him.
47:37Joe Fignano had a 33% running back target rate last week.
47:40That's was eight flowers in the backfield. Yeah. And Justice Hill had eight targets.
47:45So I know you got to be super desperate, but I just want to throw him out.
47:50He's like a worse version of Dylan Sampson. He usually gets three to four targets every week.
47:56And then he had eight last week for Fignano, you know, and again, they're going to be probably trailing.
48:02You know what? We could probably we got to talk about Brenton Strange here.
48:07Brenton Strange getting a ton of targets, except for last week when Trevor Lawrence had 14 pass attempts.
48:12Ravens are, you know, they gave up four catches, 86 yards and a touchdown to Kincaid last week.
48:18So it's not like a matchup to avoid necessarily.
48:21Jacob, where do you have Brenton Strange? Behind Eli Raridon?
48:24Oh, wow. I think he's a decent enough start, but I don't see him as like significantly different than a lot of
48:32these guys you could pick up off the waiver wire like Chico Conqua or Raridon.
48:36Anyone have him high? Yeah. I think there's a better outcome for him.
48:41I mean, Raridon is taking on one of the toughest matchups of the week with the Packers.
48:46You know, so I think Strange to hope to see a little bit more concentrated targets for the Jaguars last week was,
48:53you know, somewhat of a no pun intended Strange outcome for them.
48:57So this, you know, look, you never like to attach these type of intangibles because you don't know what's going to happen.
49:04But this is an MVP spotlight game for Trevor Lawrence.
49:07So if he comes out and has a big performance here, which he could, wouldn't shock me if that's something Liam Cohen does.
49:15He seems like that type of coach. So I wouldn't be surprised if it's, you know, hey, go have a big game, especially if Tune's not there.
49:24Like this is going to be a Trevor Lawrence game.
49:27All right. Would you start Brenton Strange or by the way, it's just the other thing on Raridon is we don't know
49:34that Hunter Henry is going to be out. So his status is uncertain, according to Mike Vrabel.
49:39So it's just something to keep in mind here.
49:42Would you start Travis Kelsey against the Jets or Brenton Strange?
49:46Kelsey. Kelsey. Strange. Dallas Goddard against the Giants or Brenton Strange?
49:49Goddard. The difference for me is all these offenses could drop back 40, 45 times.
49:54And that's, I just, I tied in particularly. I want route volume and it just bothers me to use Strange on the Jags.
50:02He has as many games with two or three targets as he does more than five.
50:07I just don't know if the Chiefs in particular, since we did Kelsey, have very much of a potential to drop back 40 times against the Jets.
50:16All right. They're almost as big a favorite as the Jags are.
50:20All right. Let's get some chat questions here real quick.
50:23Strange or Isaiah Likely? Likely. Burrow or Prince? Burrow.
50:26Burrow. QB1. Parker Washington or Stefan Diggs against the Rams?
50:29Washington. Washington. Parker Washington, Nico Collins, Jonah Coleman, Luther Burden, T.
50:33Higgins. You need to sit two. Parker Washington, Nico Coleman, Luther Burden, T.
50:37Higgins. I'm going to sit Washington and Burden. I would sit Washington.
50:41Burden, that's fine. Yeah. I think that's right. All right.
50:44A lot of great players. I would sit Washington and Burden.
50:47Malik Willis or Trevor Lawrence? We're going Trevor Lawrence.
50:50Parker Washington or Jalen Coker against the Broncos? Washington.
50:53Yeah. I'm going Coker. I asked this one about 10 minutes ago, but it's been a while.
50:59So Lawrence or Jordan Love? Lawrence. Yeah. Yep. Parker Washington or Nico Collins?
51:03You guys basically just pick Nico Collins. Mm-hmm. Parker Washington or Luther Burden?
51:07You guys just pick Parker Washington. I have Luther.
51:10Oh. No, Washington wasn't part of the previous one.
51:13Yeah. I have Burden also. Yeah. Burden over Washington.
51:16My bad. Oh, who was it then? Yeah, it was.
51:19It was Nico. I thought you guys said- We picked Coleman over both of them.
51:24We said sit Washington and Burden. Sit Washington and Burden.
51:27Okay. My bad. Gentier Flowers? Gentier. This is one where I think I would go with Flowers because we don't know if Gentier's getting 20 plus touches.
51:36They may have the same amount of catches this week.
51:39Yeah. Ravens or Giants? Giants. And Derek Henry or Zach Charbonnet?
51:43Oh, gosh. Henry. Henry. Yeah. All right. That's it for Thursday Night Football.
51:47Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Oh, it starts the Jaguars DST. Let's get out the Worry-O-Meter.
51:51Zero to 100 on the Worry-O-Meter. The first one is four players.
51:55All on Eli's team. Eli says Worry-O-Meter on AJ Brown, Parker Washington, Zay Flowers, and Jonathan Taylor.
52:00I will ask you to rank them most worried to least worried.
52:04AJ Brown, Parker Washington, Zay Flowers, Jonathan Taylor. Most worried is easily AJ Brown.
52:09Yeah. Two would be Zay. Yeah. I'm not really worried about the other two, but I think I'm more worried about Parker Washington than I am Jonathan Taylor.
52:18Yeah. I mean, look, Taylor's just such a wild card right now.
52:22I'd be a little bit worried if he stays with the Colts just because that team are going to be awful.
52:28But they've been awful all year, and he's still averaging 18.8 PPR.
52:32Yeah, but they were awful with Quentin Nelson, and who knows what the quarterback situation may be, which could get worse.
52:39Yeah, that's true. I mean, he struggled at the end of last year.
52:43It wasn't like a must-sit guy or anything, but yeah, he could definitely be worse.
52:48Oh, he's never going to be a must-sit guy.
52:51You know, I mean, maybe when he's just facing an absolutely terrible matchup, if he goes through a stretch of games where he's awful.
52:59But if he stays with Indianapolis, what's the motivation for him and the team?
53:03Do they shut him down at some point? They've got a great schedule.
53:07Mostly great. All right, this one's from The Mayor.
53:10What is your worry-o-meter on the guy in our league that doesn't watch football, only made two moves all year, hasn't touched
53:17his fab, and is crushing the league? And there he is on the worry-o-meter.
53:22Looks familiar, huh? That's Thomas? Yeah. I was like, yeah, just put a picture of Thomas.
53:27Um, worry-o-meter for the guy who doesn't deserve to be winning, but is crushing the league.
53:32No worries at all. No, zero. He's going to continue doing this.
53:36Yeah. All right, let's go to Brett. He says, worry-o-meter on Emeka Abuka.
53:40Baker Mayfield can't complete a pass, literally. 72. I think this could be like one of the biggest week-to-week turnarounds we see all year.
53:48I'm very curious what it'll look like. Um, on the road against Chicago, Jeffrey Simmons, like, are they just going to try
53:55to run the ball every single play? Um, what happens if that doesn't work?
54:00Oh, we've got big news here, by the way.
54:03I'm more worried about Abuka's toe than I am about the offense.
54:07Yeah. I agree with Jacob. Like, they're not going to do this every week.
54:11They can't. And they're not going to do it this week.
54:15Like, so, I'll say 40%. Uh, Deshaun Watson is in the concussion protocol.
54:19FYI. Ooh. Yeah. They, who do they play this week?
54:22They play at Saints. One o'clock on Sunday. All right, so what did you say, Jamie?
54:2740? 40. We got a number, guys? Uh, I don't think Jacob gave a number.
54:32I think I'm about where Jamie is. So it'd be 51.7.
54:36Okay, I didn't hear Heath's number. Otherwise, I would have done the math faster than Heath.
54:41Next up is Corey Green. Worryometer on Omar Cooper Jr.
54:44Two straight games with more than 22 fantasy points and then zero fantasy points.
54:49What's your worryometer on Omar Cooper Jr.? I always find this funny, like, when we get questions about guys like this because, like, he's a bonus.
54:57Like, what are you worried about for somebody that you picked up off waivers that could clearly help your team, but you
55:04shouldn't have to be forcing him into your lineup?
55:07And I'm not saying that to be, you know, condescending.
55:10It's just, like, these type of players that just kind of come out of nowhere, and I only say that because he
55:18missed so much time early in the season. Like, I'm not worried at all.
55:22If he plays well, I'm going to be thrilled about it.
55:26If he doesn't, I understand what I'm getting. So let's, let's, let's change it.
55:30Five percent. Like, 100% would be I'm dropping him right now.
55:34It's like the percentage chance I'm going to have to drop Omar Cooper.
55:3850 for me. That you're going to drop him?
55:41Yeah. Yeah. Uh, 30% that I'm going to drop him.
55:44I'm worried that I actually think this is a really good matchup for him against the Chiefs.
55:50Um, I think that's a spot where he could get a lot of slot targets and I'm going to advise people to
55:57start him and they're going to get zero again.
56:00That does worry me. I thought he looked awesome on film.
56:03I went and watched every route. Um, I think that it could be a lot better than this.
56:09And I think they'll go back and watch the film and see how often he was open and probably getting the ball more.
56:16But, um, yeah, I'll say 50 is about right.
56:19Maybe more. There's so many options here. Heath, we're at 130 divided by three.
56:24What are we doing here? Oh, I'm at 45.
56:2745. Oh, come on, man. One 75 divided by four is 46 ish.
56:31No, I would not five and four. I would not want to drop him to be honest.
56:36Like he's really good and can play in and out of the slot, can do a bunch of different stuff, can win with the ball in his hands.
56:46Like if anything were to happen to Garrett Wilson, this is someone who could actually like take a wide receiver one target share.
56:53So like if you're comparing him to Makai Lemon or Antonio Williams or Ryan Flannoy or any of the guys that we
57:00talked about to pick up this week, like it feels like it's just making a lateral move because like you're going to
57:07have these weeks where these guys are good. Now clearly Williams has a path to consistent production because of McLaurin's injury and
57:14Lemon could have that same thing if Wicks and Smith remain out.
57:18He's going to compete with two pretty talented guys and Garrett Wilson and, and I Mitchell, but I don't know.
57:25I think you're just kind of, you'll drop him one week.
57:28He'll have a big game against the chiefs. You'll regret dropping him.
57:32You'll drop Williams the next week to pick up Cooper again.
57:36Like it's just, that's the type of player. It's so annoying.
57:39And it's not just the type of player he is.
57:42I'm, I'm stunned that Jeremy Bernard has had two bad games in a row.
57:47Like it really felt like that was so easy.
57:50He was going to get his targets every week along with DK Metcalf.
57:54This is just what we're dealing with here with this rookie class.
57:58We're not going to get consistent performances. That's why I put a 50 on the worry that I might have to drop him.
58:05So, uh, all right. Anyway, yeah, he's 44 on that scale for Saquon Barkley though.
58:10Let's put Saquon Barkley on the worryometer giants this week.
58:13Then a buy. How worried are we about Saquon Barkley?
58:1737 40. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm more like 70 or something.
58:21This guy can't get through a game. Stop using your calculator.
58:24I'm not using it. He has an abacus there.
58:27No, it's gotta be, let's see, 70, 140 divided by three.
58:31That's, uh, about 45 ish. I don't know. 49.
58:34Yeah, whatever. That's what I said. I mean, come on.
58:3745. What a terrible guess. Um, yeah. What's the concern here, Jacob, about Barkley?
58:41Just look at him. It's like the Mike Evans thing.
58:45It's like, he's just constantly laboring through every single moment of every single game, except his team's not the 49ers who have Superbowl aspirations.
58:52Yeah. The Evans, the Evans stuff lasted like two games of where it looked like that.
58:57And then it was just like, okay, we have to stop this.
59:01This is obviously insane. But he's coming back this week after his buy.
59:06And so Barkley's got the Giants this week, which I think would be good if he can stay healthy and then a buy.
59:13Hopefully he can get him. Like, just sit him this week.
59:17Give him a nice two-week break. No, I don't, I'm not, I'm not saying that for the Giants.
59:22We're like, we can, we can beat them with Saquon Barkley or lose to them.
59:27But, uh, no, I think it'd be nice to get him healthy.
59:31Wouldn't it? It'd be great to get him healthy.
59:34I mean, I, I like the fact that he's trying to play for a team that's clearly struggling.
59:40I like the fact that, you know, he's, he's, uh, says he doesn't want to be traded, you know, so this game
59:47I'm sure is pretty important to him. So I'm sure he's going to try and do the best he can to be
59:54out there and perform at a high level. You should be stashing Tank Bixby at this point.
60:00He's 19% rostered. Okay. And let's go, let's, we'll go a little faster here so we can save time for, um, for
60:07Jacob's thoughts at the end of the show. The real Luke wants to put George Pickens on the worry-o-meter.
60:13George Pickens, zero to 100. 25. 26. See, I've been 25, 26 all year, but the vibes are getting so weird in Dallas.
60:20Um, Jerry said you gotta get him the ball.
60:23Yeah. Jerry says a lot of stuff. I don't feel great about it.
60:27Their schedule is pretty brutal for the last like five games.
60:31They have a week 14 by, which is also not something I like for fantasy.
60:36I'm going to say like 55 or 60. Okay.
60:39That's somewhere in the thirties. I'm not the 31.
60:42Uh, 36. No, it's 31. Uh, did you use 55 or 60?
60:46I don't, I think I did 50. I don't think.
60:49All right. So some takes there on George Pickens who, who played a season low ran a season low 65% of the routes.
60:56He's dealing with some injuries. Also, the Cowboys have been pretty run heavy the last two weeks.
61:02They have the fourth lowest pass rate in football the last two weeks, but they've played Philadelphia and Arizona.
61:08You know, you're hoping now we've got the Colts coming in now, but then San Francisco, Tennessee, Philadelphia, Seattle, maybe they'll have
61:15to throw more in some of these games. I don't know.
61:19All right. From fantasy football, worryometer on Ashton Gentry.
61:21Hmm. 48. I'm going to say that it is a 32 in full PPR and 75 and everything else.
61:28Yeah. Yeah. I'll say about 40. He wasn't getting that many points running the ball anyway.
61:33Yeah. He just lost like two points a game.
61:36I like the end of season schedule. It is 40, uh, one 20 divided by three.
61:41I got that one 40 on the worryometer for Ashton Gentry.
61:44Uh, like I said earlier in the show, the Raiders is going to apparently play the hot hand.
61:50If you look at them, Gentry versus Mike Washington side-by-side EPA success rate yards before contact after contact, avoid rate.
61:57Washington hasn't beat in most categories and Gentry is basically terrible in all of them.
62:02Um, he's just truly, you know, been one of the worst rushers, at least efficient rushers.
62:07Uh, yeah. I don't know what we got here with, with Gentry.
62:11If we're drafting again today, what round do you think he goes in, in a 12 team league?
62:16PPR? I just did this on beyond the box score last week.
62:20And he went in round two. Round two? Well, that was last week before this week, of course.
62:26Yeah. I think it's, yeah, not way different than Jeremiah Love.
62:30That might be a bad take, but you're truly just hoping that he gets healthy out of the bye week late in
62:37the season and then crushes for like five weeks into the playoff.
62:41So really the only team where I'm holding or trading for Gentry is a team where I can afford to wait on
62:48that and not get any points in the future.
62:51Cause I don't know if you can start him this week.
62:54Where do you guys have him ranked this week?
62:57I'm running back 25. He's like 20. Uh, yeah.
63:00Full PPR. I think he's 19 and non PPR.
63:03I think he's 30 something. Gentry is facing a team that gives up the most receiving yards per game to running backs.
63:10So hopefully, um, they're going to be chasing. So that's to help him.
63:14All right. Austin wants Tyler Warren on the worryometer.
63:17Speaking of inefficient, he is 31st out of 32 tight ends with 25 or more targets in yards per target, yards per
63:24catch and a dot for what that's worth. Tyler Warren is 35.
63:28Is Alec Pierce going to play again? Who? Pretty easy to get yards after catch when your a dot is one.
63:35Um, it feels like a decent enough PPR scam as long as he stays healthy and we might get 10 targets every week.
63:42So for fantasy football, PPR purposes, my worryometer is like 10, 15.
63:46What'd you say, Jamie? I said 35. I mean, we could have Anthony Richardson starting soon, which is just bad for all the pass catchers.
63:54That's fair. And, and he's not getting a lot of yak right now, which you would think would change, but his big play rate is putrid.
64:03It's good. Catches for 18 yards. Yeah. I mean, his big play rate was 14.3% last year.
64:08It's 4.3% this year. You would think that would change me.
64:12I don't know how it could be that low.
64:15Um, to be fair, if they trade Taylor, he could be their best running back.
64:20And last one is Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson. Five.
64:23Wow. I mean, when's it start? If, uh, if it's relative to the people who drafted him in round one, I would say it's probably like 28.
64:31Yeah. I've been kind of nervous all year. Um, I'll say 20.
64:35Okay. It's not that low. It's not that high then.
64:38It's not like he's a 70 or anything like that.
64:42Nobody's going to be sitting him. It's pretty bad, but what is it?
64:46It's 55 or fewer yards in four of six games.
64:49No, three of six games. He left one of those games early or three of five games, I guess.
64:55Yeah. Oh, wait. Yeah. He's played six games. We left one of them after 20, 12% of the snap.
65:01So I don't know. It's been rough. I was less worried before week, week eight.
65:06He had the touchdown, but Kyler's playing so poorly.
65:09Yeah. I think Wentz would help. And it seems like his postgame reaction was basically a signal and everyone got it.
65:16Like we got to get Justin Jefferson, the Buffalo this week.
65:20Come on. We got to get going here. All right.
65:23Great. Uh, now we're going to, we can't do grade the trade today.
65:27Sorry, folks. Let's do a grade. The Jacob Jacob, you are going to be graded on a, uh, yeah.
65:33F to a, uh, scale here, which is just being graded.
65:37I don't know why I said that. So go for it.
65:40Give us, drop us some fantasy knowledge. Yeah, I came prepared.
65:44So I, I feel confident that I can do okay here.
65:47Um, grade out pretty well. I've got five running backs I want to talk to you about.
65:53Um, and if you want, I can dig into even more.
65:56I'm looking at red zone data. Um, so I do this every week on beyond the box score where I dig into rest of season rankings update.
66:05Um, and then look at the usage notes for every team, every backfield.
66:09I want to talk about Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs has 88% of the whole team's touches inside the 10 yard line since returning.
66:17He already has 15 PPR points inside the 10, three and a half touches per game inside the 10, six red zone touches per game.
66:25So those are all monster numbers for reference. There are five running backs averaging over four red zone touches per game on the year.
66:33He's averaging six. Those five running backs are Jameer Gibbs, 5.9.
66:36Kenneth Walker, 5.1. Derek Henry, 4.9. Javante Williams, 4.6.
66:39And John, Jerry Swift, 4.5. Red zone touches per game.
66:42Uh, I want to talk about Henry first here.
66:45I'm pretty nervous about what we've got, um, going forward.
66:49If this is, I mean, they're implied for the fewest points of any team this week.
66:54If that's what we're going to have, uh, consistently for the Ravens.
66:58I think that that is a huge, huge change.
67:00Obviously we worry about playing from behind and just that affecting his, um, total touches, his playing time and all that.
67:07Um, he's been game script sensitive, but also he's just been very touchdown dependent.
67:12He has 66% of the Ravens touches and 47% of the Ravens touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line over the past two seasons.
67:20Those are by far the highest rates in the NFL.
67:23Um, and the Ravens have been 35% less likely to produce touchdowns with Lamar Jackson off of the field on a per play basis.
67:31Um, I think over the course of like full games, it's probably even wider discrepancy than that.
67:36Right. We all feel how much different it is.
67:39Yeah. Um, I've got to run back 20 this week.
67:42I haven't running back 18 rest of season. I don't really know what to do with him.
67:48Um, I would, people are like trading for tooting.
67:51I would be so thrilled if I could do that.
67:54Like there's, I would, there's a lot of running backs.
67:57I would trade him for him. I know. Um, I'd trade him for chase Brown.
68:02You know, like there's a lot of guys I would flip Henry for easily.
68:06I'm, I'm curious what y'all think about. Oh, I mean in a heartbeat, if, if somebody said, here's Derek, here's chase Brown
68:14for Derek Henry, I'd, you know, couldn't hit except fast enough.
68:17I think just looking at the situation, like, yeah, it's, it's, it's bad.
68:21Now again, they, they may find somebody that is Tyler Huntley level or better.
68:26And I, I say that obviously very hopeful that that's the floor.
68:30It's not easy to find quarterbacks. So, you know, Jacoby Brissett is, is a easy player to sort of peg and say
68:37that's somebody that they're, that they're looking at as a, as a trade target.
68:41Mack Jones would be a, uh, I think a dream.
68:45Um, you know, you, you've heard, uh, I think it was our, our former colleague who's very tied to the Baltimore area and the Ravens, Jason La Confora.
68:54He suggested Tyson Bajant because of the tie in with Declan Doyle when they were on the bears together.
69:00So like, this is what we're looking at here.
69:03Like, did those guys excite you for Derek Henry or even say flowers?
69:07I don't know that if that could be the case, you know, those guys were good with Huntley to a degree.
69:14They weren't Lamar Jackson. They weren't producing like they were with Lamar Jackson.
69:18So yeah, I mean, if you could unload Derek Henry, as he said, you know, you're selling low, but you're selling low for a reason.
69:26Just to say one thing about Henry here. He has a season in his somewhat recent history, 2022, where he averaged about 19 PPR points per game.
69:35He was RB four. This is in full PPR on the 28th ranked offense in the NFL.
69:40And this wasn't even like vintage Henry. This was a year where he averaged 4.4 yards per carry.
69:46This year, he's averaging 4.0. So that is actually a big change.
69:50But he was but he averaged 22 carries per game.
69:53Almost. He's also 26 then. Yeah, 28. No, it's not the same.
69:57It's probably not the same player, but he does have a history of being on a terror.
70:03He's one of the only running backs who's been on a terrible offense in the last like decade and been a top
70:10five running back on a per game basis. He and Brees Hall are the only ones I could find, really.
70:16Okay, go ahead, Jacob. Sorry. So if you're watching on YouTube here, you see on the screen, this is there are six
70:23running backs who have accounted for at least half of their offenses touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line.
70:29So the whole team, not just the backfield. And you can see here the percentage of the touches, the percentage of the
70:37snaps and the percentage of the touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line, along with the fantasy points that they've scored from inside the 10.
70:45So Henry's up there at the very top, 50% of Baltimore's total touchdowns inside the 10 yard line.
70:50I want to talk about Bucky Irving, man. Bucky Irving has 55% of the Bucks touchdowns from inside the 10, which is
70:58tied with Tuba Hubbard for the highest rate in the league.
71:01Um, he has a 52% red zone touch share, which is up to 61% over the past month.
71:07So running back six and the percentage of the team's touches inside the red zone sandwich in between Jonathan Taylor and Javante Williams.
71:14This is not at all what we got from Bucky Irving last year.
71:19Uh, he had seven touches from inside the 10 all year long.
71:23He already has six touchdowns from inside the 10.
71:25Oh, wow. This year he's been so good. Like he's completely turned this season around like shout out Jalen Daniels, of course,
71:33but like Bucky really has just been the heart of this team and has turned them around.
71:38And now they're actually competitive in their division and it's all been through him.
71:43I mean, before, uh, the, the second half last week where it just, I mean, it was just a weird game, but
71:50like he was clearly the start at 19 of 25 running back touches over a 70% snapper.
71:55And I think that they went to gain one more so the Bucky didn't die.
72:00Like he's an absolute bell cow locked in the offense runs through him.
72:04Okay. I don't know what to do with that information necessarily.
72:08Cause I don't know how good this office will be.
72:11Um, but to me, like I see him and Jalen Warren sort of similarly with a clear distinction that there's no funny business happening in the red zone.
72:20There's no Rico daddle. It's clearly Bucky in that area as the main difference between those two.
72:26Yeah. He's had a very light schedule lately. You go back to his last bad matchup week six against Pittsburgh.
72:32He had a terrible game before that terrible game against green Bay, terrible game against Minnesota.
72:37So he's, he's destroyed Dallas, Carolina, and Atlanta recently.
72:40His next two games are against teams that are top five against running backs at Chicago and at Detroit.
72:46And there's a buy in between there too. Sounds like I'm telling you to sell high on Bucky Irving, but I don't
72:53think I would because I mean, I tell him for like Bijan, but, uh, you know, he, he should be involved in the passing game.
73:02If Baker Mayfield throws footballs, you know, that's kind of been a thing and seven, four and four targets and three games with, with Baker Mayfield.
73:10But I can't, I love Bucky Irving. I can't let go.
73:13I can't not mention the fact that he's been very matchup dependent this year.
73:18Sure. Yeah. After that stretch, I'm sorry. Week 12 on it's a great schedule for him.
73:23Go ahead. Yeah. Two of the guys I want to talk about are Deandre Swift.
73:28Clearly, um, 58 points inside of the 10 yard line this year.
73:32You see here on the screen, like the leading score inside of the 10.
73:36Deandre Swift has 27 touches inside the 10 this year.
73:40Last year, James Cook had 27 all year. He was the running back nine with 27 touches inside the 10.
73:46Javante had 31 from that range. He had 12 touchdowns inside the 10.
73:50Those are like top three numbers. Uh, Swift already has 27 touches inside the 10 and nine touchdowns inside the 10.
73:57He had 23% of the team's touches inside the 10 last year.
74:01That's up to 53%. Like it's just a completely different role.
74:05I think Mononga will cut into that some. Um, but I also think that they're just prioritizing him differently than they did last year.
74:12They're like designing targets to him way more than they did last year.
74:17I'm curious where you're at on like Swift. I feel like Javante, Swift, Kyron Williams always just kind of get lumped into one group.
74:24Um, but to me, the bears offense right now clearly feels the best of that group.
74:30Any thoughts on Swift rest of season? I think the big question is what is the split when Mononga is 100%?
74:36And cause he has like that. It seemed like that very, the first two games, it was a pretty even split with
74:43Swift and Roshan because they were kind of blowouts.
74:46And then the last two, it hasn't been at all.
74:50If he has this share of the work that he's had the last two weeks for the rest of season, then I
74:57think he's probably ahead of all those guys you said.
75:00Well, the Kyron comp is the best one because of Corum, you know?
75:04So you're, you're seeing what it looks like for a guy that loses work to a pretty talented backup.
75:10And I think that's the case. I just feel like in the case of what we're seeing with Swift now, and clearly
75:17that speaks more to Roshan, I think than anything else, because he's just not as talented as Mononga guys.
75:24They're just not going to trust the second guy like they would when Mononga is healthy.
75:29That being said, we don't know when Mononga is going to be healthy.
75:33They could have, and probably should have, put him on IR to free up a roster spot, and they decided not to do so.
75:41So they have this week, then they go into their bye, and we'll see what this looks like for them rest of season.
75:48But at this point, like, you've got to feel pretty confident in DeAndre Swift and just hope that Mononga doesn't ruin him
75:55more than 10% or 15% of the production you're getting.
75:58So for what it's worth, weeks one through three, DeAndre Swift had 11 touches inside the 10, and Mononga had three.
76:05And then the next week, Swift got benched for fumbling.
76:08Mononga ended up with seven touches inside the 10-yard line.
76:12But in the first three weeks of the season when Swift played his normal snap share, he was dominating touches inside the 10, 11 to 3.
76:20He feels like, I don't know, maybe a little fluky.
76:23I wouldn't expect it to be that lopsided with Mononga.
76:27Mononga's run really well this year, and Swift really hasn't.
76:30I mean, is he under four yards per carry at this point?
76:34I know he just had a terrible efficiency game against the Seahawks, but it was 4.1 going into that game.
76:40I'm wondering if this is the peak value for DeAndre Swift.
76:44But again, just like Jamie said, I have no idea when Mononga is coming back.
76:49Swift or Bucky, rest of season? Swift. I do have Swift.
76:52Swift. I just have so much more confidence in this Bears offense.
76:56The Bears offense, to your point, hasn't even run the ball like they did last year and still looks unstoppable.
77:03I think Caleb has tapped into a different level of play than we've seen from him in the past.
77:09More consistent, a little bit more accurate. He's obviously always had the top-end tools, but just the little things are coming together
77:16where it's like, this offense is going to be really hard to stop.
77:20All right. Anything else? A few more minutes? Jonah Coleman.
77:23Obviously, this could get thrown off by a trade or something if Jonathan Taylor goes to Denver, but 46% of the red
77:30zone touches and 50% of the inside the 10-yard line touches have gone to Coleman in the three games that he's played, weeks two, seven, and eight.
77:39Those are really high rates, and it's only a three-game sample, but it's also a rookie who only until recently was just fighting for extra playing time.
77:48To me, the fact that even in those games, he got a lot of touches inside the 10-yard line is really notable,
77:55and it isn't like 50% of two touches. He had eight touches inside the 10-yard line on the year in three games.
78:02He has eight touches inside the 10-yard line. That's more than Ramondre Stevenson has all year.
78:07That's more than Chris Rodriguez or Cam Skadaboo have all year.
78:11That's more than the entire Minnesota backfield has all year.
78:14That's more than Jalen Warren and Rico Dattel combined all year inside the 10, going to Jonah Coleman in three games.
78:21I think he is an endearing running back. I think he does every single thing that a coach wants.
78:27He's a great pass protector. He fights for extra yards.
78:30He gets what's there. I don't think he's giving this job up unless he gets hurt, or I guess they just decide
78:37to trade for Jonathan Taylor or something like that.
78:40Why? Just don't do it. And just for the team, they've had such a tough schedule.
78:45Chiefs twice, Jaguars, Rams, Niners, Chargers, Seahawks, Cardinals. I mean, the rest of their schedule is Panthers, Raiders twice, Steelers, great defense.
78:53Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Patriots could be a very good defense.
78:56I'm not saying every single week is a layup, but the difference between the first half of the Broncos schedule and the
79:03second half of the Broncos schedule is immense. It is so much easier on paper.
79:08Good stuff. Cool. Anything else? You good? Got any red zone splits you want to know?
79:13You want me to look up Basial Tootin's stats for you?
79:16No. I think we know how you feel about Basial Tootin.
79:20He's good. He's good. I hope he plays on Thursday.
79:23I really, really hope we can start him again.
79:26Jacob, thank you for joining us. For sure. Thanks for having me.
79:30It was fun. How about that? A plus. No.
79:33You got to make... Yeah, keep them hungry, Heath.
79:36We'll be complacent next time he comes on the show.
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