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2:10He's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:15Well, in week five, we had 14 players at any position score 30 or more PPR fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues.
2:23Okay, quarterback running, but whatever position, 30 or more fantasy points.
2:26We had 14. That was including Sunday night and Monday night.
2:30How many do we have right now before Sunday night football?
2:33For week six? Yeah, for week six. 14 last week?
2:37Not that. Nowhere near as many as zero. Yeah, zero.
2:40No, no, no. There's at least... I'm going to say two because there's two quarterbacks that I did not have top 12 that ended up being...
2:48Oh yeah, Shuck was one. Shuck was one, and Trevor Lawrence is the other.
2:53And that is it. That is it. Four touchdowns will do that for you.
2:57I don't think Drake May got to 30. He's at 29 non-decimal.
3:01I don't think he got to 30. So yeah, it's two.
3:04It's unbelievable. And the top non-quarterback is... Kenneth Walker.
3:07Yeah. Oh, Malik Neighbors? Malik Neighbors. Malik Neighbors. Kenneth Walker just behind him.
3:11Neighbors with a... I cannot wait to just watch you the rest of the season run for J.J.
3:17McCarthy. It's Walker and non-PPR, is it not? It's Walker and non-PPR.
3:21Who cares about non-PPR? For sure. A lot of people care about it.
3:25Anyway, welcome to the show, everybody. Winners, losers, injuries, not too many of them.
3:29Knock on wood. And a recap of every game.
3:32Tight ends were interesting as Colston Loveland and Kyle Pitts bounce back.
3:36They're back. Yeah, he's going to talk about them as his winners.
3:40The Rams and the Cardinals have the same record.
3:43But let's start with the biggest winner. You know, Jamie, why don't I give this one to you?
3:48Biggest winner for Fantasy Week 6. Oh, the guy we picked up off waivers this week.
3:54Jeremy Bernard. I mean, that was awesome. Sucked that Pat Friar-Muth didn't do much today, but the other two receivers were fantastic.
4:01And despite the fact of a moderate game for Aaron Rodgers, took overtime for him to get, you know, to have a decent day.
4:08But the targets were amazing for both Bernard and Metcalf.
4:11And hopefully that's going to continue for the rest of the season.
4:15And then my other winner, just to wrap it all up since the lovely graphic is up, Luther Burden.
4:21You know, we said there's going to be two receivers for the Bears that do well this week, just based on the Falcons track record.
4:29And it was Burden and Loveland. So Odunze, I'm sure we'll have his moments.
4:34And Khalif Raymond, I'm sure we'll have his moments.
4:36But if you tell me the rest of the season we're getting this from Burden and Loveland, everybody's going to be happy.
4:43Jeremy Bernard, just back to him, 76% rostered, 51% started.
4:47I think that start percentage is going to be 80% or higher next week.
4:51I made one stupid decision. Well, I guess it wasn't stupid.
4:55Oh, yeah, I guess it was. I benched him for AJ Brown.
4:58Go ahead. You benched him for who? AJ Brown.
5:01No. Everybody would have done that. AJ Brown left a lot of fantasy points on the table.
5:07A lot. Who knew a player could shake off that much rust in one game?
5:11I hope he doesn't have any left. It was gross.
5:15Yeah, that was bad. Ten targets, encouraging stuff other than all the drops and stuff.
5:19All right, so biggest winners, Jeremy Bernard and also an honorable mention to Luther Burden.
5:24Heath, let's go to Heath. Who's the biggest loser this week?
5:28Oh, why would I get the biggest loser? I don't know.
5:31I got it if you don't. Dave, I feel like you're in the loser.
5:36Well, no. No, I've got it. I put it on the list.
5:39Cam Scadaboo. Yes. We got the heads up this morning.
5:43It was funny. At like 12.53, I told my son.
5:46Can you get that heads up? At 12.53, I said, sounds like Najee Harris is starting over Cam Scadaboo today.
5:52And he starts freaking out and going through his phone.
5:55He's like, Damian Pierce or Tyler Adjier? I said, Damian Pierce.
5:59And so he dropped Kyle Pitts to pick up Damian Pierce to start over Cam Scadaboo.
6:04Well, that worked at least. I mean, Pierce. Yes.
6:07Yeah. It worked. No, just like when I heard that he was going to be benched, I thought it was going to be benched.
6:14And yeah, Najee Harris gets the first few carries.
6:17He looks like what he's looked like all season.
6:20And he did. And then we'll see Cam Scadaboo worked back in.
6:24He did play a little bit. I saw him blocking as a fullback on one play, I believe.
6:30Just a disastrous result. And Tyrone Tracy scored two touchdowns.
6:33So they've got to be feeling okay about him right now.
6:36Did you hear Carbaugh's explanation after the game? He wasn't benched.
6:40Yeah, it was ridiculous. And even Scadaboo said, I knew I was going to play less.
6:45I didn't think I'd get zero touches. He said, but it's my fault.
6:49You know, he said, I'm getting punished and I deserve it basically.
6:53But I think the question is, right, you got Houston next week.
6:57Great run defense. And then you've got a bye.
6:59Is it even worth keeping Cam Scadaboo at this point?
7:03So ask the question. Dave does this a lot.
7:05You see Cam Scadaboo on waivers. You're going to go pick him up.
7:10I'm sure everybody's going to say yes. And just to see what happens.
7:14I think the way it works, at least in most of my leagues, is there's like three teams next week that are going to have no choice.
7:22They have to drop Cam Scadaboo and they can't pick him up if they see him on waivers.
7:28And there's probably three teams that are going to be putting in bids for Cam Scadaboo because they have the roster depth at this point.
7:36I had a lot of teams this week where my bench literally had zero projected points.
7:41It's between injuries and bids. Yep. And so if you're in that situation and you got Cam Scadaboo, you're going to have to make a move.
7:49Some Nash wave says Cam Scadaboo out Omari and Hampton to Omari and Hampton.
7:54So what's the all-bust non-injury team right now? I think you got Hampton and Scadaboo.
7:59Hampton. Sure. I mean, look, you could argue Barkley even.
8:02That's it. Yeah, but he hasn't. No, but I mean, he's been bad even when he hasn't.
8:07I'm just saying, throw it in. Yeah, we'll put the.
8:10We can't find a full team of players that haven't been hurt, Jamie.
8:14If you sucked and you're injured, that's a different team.
8:18Herbert at quarterback. Scadaboo, Hampton. So Herbert, Scadaboo, Hampton.
8:20Jalen Waddle. Chase Brown is definitely on this. Yeah, he's not as bad as the Bubs.
8:26He's not worse than those two. No, but he was drafted four hours earlier than Scadaboo.
8:31We can put Scadaboo in the flex. Who are the wide receivers, though?
8:35Waddle for sure. Yeah, he's got to be there.
8:38The wide receivers have been pretty good, huh? I guess Marvin Harrison.
8:41No, he was like a six-round pick. Man, it has been a good year for those wide receivers.
8:47My goodness. No, there's got to be one. Ibuka has basically been a bust.
8:52No, last two weeks he's been okay. Last two weeks, yeah.
8:55He's going to come back to us. That's how far you got to go because I can't say McConkie.
9:01He plays one quarter every game. Yeah. Yeah. Burden?
9:04It was basically both Burden and Odunze were busts?
9:07No, I don't think Burden. Jamison Williams, maybe? I mean, Odunze doesn't have a touchdown yet this year, and he has one game with more than 10.
9:15But Odunze wasn't drafted that much. Right. I'm just trying to fill roster spots on our all-bust team.
9:21I'm looking at the CBS ADP and Odunze and Burden were back-to-back.
9:25Burden. Did you say Quentin Johnston? I mean, if you're going to go that, I would go Godwin over Johnston.
9:31Right. We were taking – somebody was taking Godwin.
9:34Ryan Thomas Jr. Yeah. No. I'm telling you, the wide receiver has been awesome.
9:39Yeah. All right. Well, that's a topic for another show, but that's a good question.
9:43I mean, you can argue like George Pickens has been – he was before last week.
9:48Mm-hmm. Yeah, they've all been pretty good. A little worried about Nico Collins right now, though.
9:54Not that he's a bust, but a little worried about – Dude, CJ's shot's awesome.
9:58Target share. Yes, he is. Two straight games with a pretty bad target share for Nico.
10:03But anyway, our biggest winner, Jeremy Bernard, our biggest loser, Cam Scadaboo.
10:07FFT Dynasty, Heath, what's on the radar with FFT Dynasty?
10:10You know, it's trying to be a little bit more patient with all of these wild happenings in the NFL.
10:17Last week, we talked about some guys and kind of like whether they're just busts or they're by-lows.
10:22We've got a little bit of rookie talk coming up.
10:26We broke into the 2027 class just a little bit last week.
10:29The wider view. Okay. Good stuff. Also, Dylan says we need the blah from a few years ago from Heath.
10:36I don't know which one it is. I'm just going to play this.
10:40I hope it's this one. Blah. Yeah. There it is.
10:43Awesome. Thank you. It was – you know, Jeremy Bernard covers a lot of blah.
10:48Pretty good stuff for Jeremy Bernard. Now, overtime certainly helped the Steelers, but Bernard was having a very good game before that.
10:55He caught his touchdown in overtime, though. Rodgers, though, if you started Rodgers, if you started Cousins, my goodness.
11:01You had to wait until the very end of those games.
11:04Dude, I started Cousins with like seven leagues. I led the Sleepers column with Cousins and Tucker.
11:10And then I put DFS Linus in there, and one of the stacks I had was Cousins and Tucker.
11:16And it was like, this is brutal. I'm like, oh, this is pretty cool.
11:20Nice. All right. News and notes. So, the Giants benched Jameis Winston.
11:24JJ McCarthy came in and scored something like 18 fantasy points in the fourth quarter.
11:29And did they say anything about it after the game?
11:32They must have. I'm sure nobody said anything in the New York media about the quarterback.
11:37I know, but I haven't seen anything. What did he say?
11:41I even read the recap. I didn't see anything in the recap.
11:44I'm sure there's something. Right. But isn't it weird that we don't know what it is?
11:50Anyway, find it. Philadelphia running back. I guess it's Jameis is starting next week.
11:54You're not starting either one of them. No, I think Jameis probably starts next week at Houston.
11:59If he struggles, you go into your bye. You switch to McCarthy.
12:03It kind of seems like the writing's on the wall.
12:06Really no running back injuries except Carson Steele for the Eagles left in the first quarter.
12:11And maybe that gave Damian Pierce more opportunities to catch passes because he caught four of them, I believe.
12:18He did. Lad McConkie, concussion. Romeo Dobbs, shoulder injury.
12:20Caught a touchdown and left with a shoulder injury.
12:23Darnell Mooney, neck. Don't know what happened to Devontae Adams.
12:26He left at the very end of the game.
12:29I think it was a knee, but I don't know for sure.
12:33Here is John Harbaugh on who his starting quarterback is next week.
12:37I can't answer that right now. It's not up for conversation right now.
12:41Those things will be decided not 10 minutes after the game.
12:45This is from Pat Leonard who covers the team.
12:47He says, Harbaugh says he has no problem with Jameis Winston and both QBs made plays.
12:52J.J. McCarthy played a heck of a game, but he's not there yet.
12:57Okay. Rashad Bateman left in the first quarter. And Dave, did Dontavian Wicks come back?
13:01Don't know. Okay. I'm not sure if he came back.
13:05He got hurt late in the game. I'll let you know.
13:08Give me 30 seconds. Looks like a non-contact knee for Devontae.
13:12Sweet. I was just doing a little looking on that.
13:15Great stuff. Okay. I don't see any tight end news.
13:18Offensive line. Well, you know, the big one, we'll just talk about the Patriots right now.
13:23They lost three offensive linemen in this game. Is there anything that matters, Heath, when it comes to Drake May?
13:29You know, A.J. Brown drops all these balls and three offensive linemen go down and Romeo Dobbs gets hurt in the first
13:36quarter and he throws up 29 more fantasy points.
13:39Yeah. I think he's just a number one quarterback until he has a couple games where he's not.
13:45But he's playing very good football right now. And A.J.
13:48Brown's probably going to start catching the ball again.
13:51Yeah. But that is, I mean, losing three starters in one game.
13:55And I don't know how long-term the injuries could, they could be back next week for all I know.
14:01But he actually said, Mason said after the game, I don't know if he's talking about all of them, but he said, those guys are playing hurt.
14:09So, not a great situation for the Patriots. Big defensive stuff.
14:13We had two defensive linemen for the, or an edge rusher and a defensive tackle for the Eagles leave with injuries.
14:20Giants secondary is a little beat up right now.
14:22Atlanta had a lot of injuries. They get San Francisco next week.
14:26Sauce Gardner left with a calf injury. He will not be shutting down.
14:30If he doesn't play next week, he won't be shutting down Justin Jefferson.
14:34And that's it for the news and notes. Not a lot today, thank goodness.
14:39Jamie, early look at the waiver wire. Omar, any names come to mind?
14:43Omar Cooper Jr. Obviously, great game by him. Should have had another touchdown that was negated by a silly Tim Patrick penalty.
14:50Trying to think. I had a few names in mind.
14:53I didn't write it down, though. Michael Mayer. Huge game for him.
14:57Two of the last three have been huge for him.
15:00Yeah, he's, look, the Bills did a great job taking away.
15:04Bowers. Brock Bowers. Taking away Brock Bowers. And Mayer did a hell of a job.
15:08It's just a good underneath option for Kirk Cousins.
15:11Is CJ Stroud still available? Obviously, you're picking him up.
15:15Looking ahead, Kyler Murray should absolutely be picked up with his matchup coming up against the Colts.
15:20How about Demario Douglas? Two big games in a row for him.
15:24So, with Dobbs being injured, that's a good call.
15:27What about Hunter Henry? Three straight good games for him.
15:30Touchdown in two straight games. Every game that Drake May has been awesome in, Henry's had not a ton of targets, but he's had some impactful plays.
15:38Deeper leagues, Tommy Tremble. This is now the Lions game.
15:42He was getting off to a good start and then got hurt and then comes back this game and scores two touchdowns.
15:49So, that's just more of a deep league option.
15:51Yes, I do apologize to the person who asked the Tommy Tremble starter sit question this morning.
15:57And I was like, Tommy Tremble? And he goes four catches, 46 yards, two touchdowns on four targets.
16:03I think he's the number one tight end this week.
16:06Probably with two scores. Maybe Pitts. Well, Pitts had two scores too.
16:09Yeah, Pitts was better. All right. That's an early look at the waiver wire.
16:14We've got a lot more for you on that tomorrow.
16:17We're going to take a quick break. Come back with some more winners and losers for you on Fantasy Football Today.
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19:23I do want to get into the winners now, but saw this comment in the chat.
19:28I haven't said this in a while, so Frank wants to know who was the fool you this week.
19:34Who was this week's fool you? Fooled Moose. I wonder, though, how much the calf injury was a problem for him.
19:41You know, we popped up on Ninja Report Saturday.
19:44It's fair. Yeah, so I was looking. Winston. Who?
19:47Jameis? Jameis. Winston's always good for a fool you game every year.
19:51Yeah. What was I going to say? A Friar Moose.
19:54This is going to change tomorrow. It won't be this, but it says he ran 75% of the routes, which means he
20:01probably ran a lot of the routes. It may not be exactly that, but I thought maybe he just didn't play that
20:08much because Washington got some targets, whatever. But no, he was on the field.
20:12Just got three targets. He's got a fool. I think Algier in the sense that I didn't expect Bam Knight to have as many carries as Tyler Algier.
20:21Josh Downs without Tyler Warren. Yep. That's a good one.
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20:49Heath, let's go to yours. There are a couple of tight ends who faced off against each other.
20:55Neither were started in even half of CBS Leagues.
20:57Loveland is 46% started. Pitts, 38% started. Pitts is 74% rostered.
21:01What are you seeing from these guys? First off, as far as Loveland goes, and it applies to Luther Burden as well, Caleb Williams, kudos.
21:09Like, just dropping back and playing normal quarterback for 75% of the game.
21:13So many times he got back to the last step of his drop.
21:17And just the ball came out to the guy who he was supposed to go to.
21:22And guess what? A lot of times that was Colson Loveland and Luther Burden.
21:27And so it was just very encouraging to see that they are primary focuses of the passing game when we're doing things on schedule.
21:34And hopefully that wasn't just Caleb Williams trying to avoid running too much because he's coming off the hamstring injury.
21:41And he's going to play quarterback like that a little bit more.
21:44Loveland was very good with the opportunities he got.
21:47Same for Kyle Pitts, who has seen his target share go up now four weeks in a row.
21:53First game with Michael Penix, it was 8.6, then 15, then 17.6, then 21.2.
21:57A season high 72% of the offensive snaps from Pitts.
22:01I don't think we can rank either of these guys as must-start options in their next game, but they are right squarely in the starting conversation.
22:09You know what we are? We're halfway to Pitts getting six touchdowns, too.
22:13Yes. About that. By the way, career-high completion rate for Caleb Williams today, 30 of 36.
22:1883.3% completion rate. Really impressive. I do wonder about why he didn't run.
22:22Was it because he just didn't want to, wasn't there today, or because he's not going to?
22:28He was moving around pretty good. Yeah. I don't know if he was necessarily moving around like he did in week one,
22:35but the Falcons had a hard time getting their hands on him until really late in the first half or into the second half.
22:42And honestly, nobody except for the Caleb Williams fantasy manager wants him to move around like he did in week one.
22:49It's true. That includes Ben Johnson. Maybe Rodunze does.
22:52Seriously. I don't think that would help him in week one.
22:55It did help him in week one because Caleb scrambled and threw a 45-yard deep ball to Rodunze on a jump.
23:02That's great. One of 10 targets he's gotten from Caleb Williams through three games or so.
23:07All right. So how about we go to Dave's winners?
23:10And they are a couple of quarterbacks. Bryce Young, 23.8 fantasy points at Philadelphia.
23:15CJ Stroud, 29 fantasy points in London, technically at the Jaguars.
23:18Young's been a top seven quarterback in all but one week through the Sunday afternoon slate.
23:23So he's a must start. I can't believe he wasn't even started in half of CBS Sports Leagues.
23:29He overcame a slow start against Philly. That defense is really hanging in there.
23:33You got to tip your cap to them, but you got good enough numbers to finish top 10 this week.
23:40And as for Stroud, this is three weeks in a row now.
23:44At least 22.9 fantasy points. At least 27 in two of the three.
23:48A dare I say that he's a must start quarterback moving forward on a team whose defense is letting us down.
23:54Run game has really been letting us down since week two.
23:58He is the obvious focal point of the offense that they just added Marvin Harrison to.
24:03Actually kind of like the role that they had for Marvin Harrison.
24:07He wasn't running downfield all the time. He was having a bunch of horizontal routes.
24:12Didn't play a ton. But an encouraging start for Marvin Harrison.
24:15It should be better games ahead, obviously, for Nico Collins.
24:18But think about it. CJ Stroud had a huge game.
24:21And Nico didn't have that huge. His numbers weren't huge.
24:25He wasn't a big factor for CJ Stroud to have a big game.
24:29So got the Giants next week. Can't help but like Stroud in that game.
24:33I like both these guys as must start quarterbacks.
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24:41Okay. And then we'll move on. Heath told me to drop Bryce Young this morning.
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25:15I saw this stat from PFF or this note from PFF on Bryce Young.
25:20Can you name the quarterbacks to throw for 280 yards and a touchdown in each of their team's first five games of
25:27a season over the last 15 years? Oh, my.
25:30Mahomes? Yeah, I'll get right on that. Bryce Young.
25:33Young, yes. 280 and one touchdown? Tom Brady. 280 and one in each of their team's first five games in the last 15 years.
25:40Bryce Young has won. You have three others. Mahomes is not one of them.
25:45Tom Brady. Not Tom Brady. Not Aaron Rodgers. He stinks.
25:48Aaron Rodgers is one. Damn. Yeah, it's been the last 15 years.
25:52I don't know. The answer is no, we cannot.
25:54Yeah. We got Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers in 2011. Drew Brees in 2013.
25:58Peyton Manning in 2013. Oh, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Bryce Young in 2026.
26:02Remember when Fitzpatrick had like three straight 400-yard games?
26:05Yeah, that's not five. And I encourage you to go watch Ryan Fitzpatrick's quote-unquote conversation with Aqib Dali.
26:10It was very funny. Oh, okay. By the way, I was rostering three quarterbacks and he told me to drop Bryce Young.
26:17Who were the other two? Jordan Love, who I'm starting tonight, and Mar Jackson.
26:22I dropped Jackson. Dropped Jackson? I think you should drop all three.
26:26All right, let's go to the losers. The other two are playing better.
26:30I know. And I couldn't trade them, you know?
26:33It's like no one needed them. No one needs a quarterback in a 1QB league.
26:37All right, Michael Wilson and Romo Dunze are Dave's losers.
26:41Michael Wilson started in 68% of leagues. Four catches for 32 yards on seven targets at the Rams.
26:46Gets Denver next week. Romo Dunze started in 58% of leagues.
26:50Three catches, 39 targets, 39 yards on four targets at Atlanta.
26:53I don't think he has 39 targets all year.
26:56And he gets New England next week. Dave, Wilson and Odunze.
27:00It's not just New England next week for Odunze.
27:02Seattle's after that. He had a 24-yard catch wiped out by a penalty.
27:07That would have brought him to almost 10 PPR points.
27:10We already talked about 10 targets from Caleb Williams through three games.
27:14Not great. Odunze is someone who's like a bi-week replacement at wide receiver.
27:18Maybe a desperation play at wide receiver in a three-receiver league.
27:21Wilson, there's been two games now without Marvin Harrison Jr.
27:24in Arizona, and he's been under eight PPR points in each of the two.
27:29And the Rams were a tough matchup to begin with.
27:32But not having Trent McDuffie, that's their best shutdown corner.
27:35You would think that there would be more opportunities than seven targets for Michael Wilson.
27:40You would think that he would do better than sub eight PPR points.
27:44It has to be asked if his coverage is changing now that Marvin Harrison Jr.
27:49isn't on the field. Could that have done anything that tilted the safeties a little bit closer to him?
27:55It's something that we can look into, but it's not – I don't know if there's going to be an answer that
28:02comes out that makes me go, oh yeah, and I'm cool to start Michael Wilson and have him in my lineup as a must-start receiver.
28:10I don't know if we can do that. He's got Denver next week.
28:14That's going to be a tough matchup. And then after that, it's Dallas.
28:18You're probably going to start him then and feel really good about that.
28:22And then Seattle after that is going to be a nightmare.
28:26Then he sees the Rams again. Chiefs after that.
28:29We've already talked about how tough this Cardinals schedule is.
28:32It could be rough out there for Michael Wilson for a while.
28:36Adam, who has more fantasy points? Roma Dunze for the season.
28:39Roma Dunze or Jeremy Bernard? Oh man. Oh, Dunze.
28:42Jeremy Bernard has 1.9 more fantasy points than Roma Dunze this season.
28:46That's incredible. I didn't see this quote, Dave, until just now when I Googled it because I had seen something on Twitter about Mike LaFleur.
28:54Mike LaFleur. Mike. Saying that both Trey McBride and Michael Wilson were double teamed a lot last week.
28:59And so I just found this quote from Michael Wilson from a week ago or earlier this week or whatever.
29:06That was probably the first time in my career where I got double teamed pretty much the whole game.
29:12Definitely not fun because it's pretty hard to get open when you're trying to win against two guys.
29:18But that tells me that Detroit thought highly of me as a player and I'm sure we'll probably see that more going forward.
29:25Okay. That's pretty significant stuff. Maybe they should have given Marvin Harrison a few more targets.
29:30Maybe. Jamie, your losers are Ramondre Stevenson who had 14 carries for 36 yards, did not have a catch.
29:36And he's averaged 3.6 yards or worse per carry in four of six games.
29:40And Jameis Winston who got benched and is 40% rostered.
29:44Yeah, obviously Jameis we covered. I will see what happens next week, but you can't start him against Houston.
29:50Ramondre was, you know, look, we had very high expectations at the start of the week when we thought Trevion Henderson was
29:57going to have a high ankle sprain and not play.
30:00Then Henderson plays. And on top of that, my guess is, and I hope it's not something moving forward, but my guess
30:07is that they were prepping Corey Kiner to play in place of Trevion Henderson.
30:11He was going to get some work. They gave Kiner their most important drive when they were trying to score at the
30:18end or kill the clock at the end. And that was troubling.
30:22Now, Stevenson got in when they tried to score.
30:25I think it was third down or fourth down.
30:28The last carry of the game. But it was just troubling to see Kiner.
30:32And Kiner actually ran well. So I hope we don't have a three-headed backfield moving forward.
30:37But this was a huge letdown for Ramondre Stevenson, who had been building some nice momentum.
30:42And then again, we thought he was going to have a huge game this week.
30:47Yeah. So Kiner had 11 carries. Stevenson had 14.
30:50And Trevion had seven. And then he fumbled. And Kiner had eight of his 11 carries on that one drive, which started
30:57with less than six minutes left in the fourth quarter.
31:00And you're right. He had a great drive. And he really milked that clock and put away the jets.
31:06Behind a makeshift offensive line, too. Right. That's part of the problem.
31:10And I got the word incorrectly, too. What do you mean?
31:14Good job, Jamie. Oh, crap. Wait, what'd you say?
31:16You got what incorrectly? I got the word incorrectly when I said make SH something wrong last week.
31:22All right. Heath. Hold on. Wait. Do you want the snap breakdown for the Patriots running backs now or when we talk about them later?
31:30Go ahead. Before the Travion fumble, it was two-thirds in favor of Ramondre.
31:34And he dominated third downs and snaps inside the 10.
31:37After the fumble, 50-50 split between Ramondre and Kiner.
31:40But Ramondre smashed on third downs, five of six there, three of four inside the 10.
31:45I don't know if I'm panicking over this news in New England.
31:49I think that Ramondre Stevenson is still going to be the running back that we want to use.
31:55I think we'll still rank him as a number two fantasy running back because of all the high-value touches that he gets.
32:02So I don't know. He's going to share the rushing downs with somebody.
32:06It's clear that that's going to be the case.
32:09Whether it's Travion or whether it's Kiner, he's probably going to be in the neighborhood for around 14 carries like he had today.
32:16Just really crappy efficiency in part because they lost so many linemen.
32:20I just want everyone to know that in my head, every time I see Corey, every time in my head, I call him Corey Kiner-Falefa.
32:28For you baseball fans out there. Okay. And Heath, your losers were Cam Scadaboo.
32:32And the permanent fixture in the losers list, Josh Downs.
32:36This is one that's just so disgusting. And maybe a lot of it is Daniel Jones, who's playing awful football.
32:42But also, I'm kind of getting a little bit of Deontay Johnson vibes from where all of the data and the film
32:49guys say how good this guy is. And maybe it should result in better production at some point.
32:55I would assume Josh Downs is going to be dropped in a few leagues.
32:59They're playing Jacksonville and then Dallas and Miami. So, I'll probably try to hold on to him.
33:04But I don't know when you can feel good about starting him.
33:08At least he had eight targets. I mean, I don't know.
33:12I can't put a silver lining on this. He's been terrible now.
33:16Three weeks ago, I talked about him as a loser.
33:19And it was the exact same kind of tenor as Heath was, which is Daniel Jones is awful.
33:24This offense isn't great. And then you'd think, OK, Tyler Warren's not going to play.
33:29It's going to be great for Downs. It's going to be great for Keenan Allen.
33:34They'll get all the targets. Well, they got 19 combined.
33:37Keenan Allen just caught eight of his. And he had more than Josh Downs.
33:42So, Keenan Allen's the thief. Right? Isn't that what you called him, Heath?
33:46Yeah. This was Josh Downs' best game in October.
33:49Yeah. That's terrible. More catches for 40 yards. Keenan Allen, by the way, just passed what?
33:54He passed Terrell Owens on the all-time catch list.
33:57Pretty insane. Hall of Fame, Keenan Allen? No. No.
33:59Hall of Very Good. He passed T.O. He passed T.O.
34:03And Anquan Bolden. They're Hall of Fame. Hall of Very Good.
34:06If Anquan's not in, he should not be in.
34:09Is Anquan not in? No. He is not in.
34:12OK. Yeah. Fair enough then. I need another loser.
34:15Another Hall of Very Good today, by the way, with another milestone.
34:18Alvin Kamara. Yeah. Yeah. Great tackling, Giants. I think Brees Hall, to me, is a loser.
34:24I think, I really feel like Braylon Allen is going to have a bigger role than he did in those first, what, three games?
34:31Three and a half, whenever it was. Two. No.
34:34It was at least three. Week, were we in week six?
34:38Oh, you're right. Three. Week four was the Braylon Allen all-touch game against the Browns?
34:42Hopefully it's a different role and not a bit.
34:45It might be a little bigger role, but I can't imagine they're going to go back to using him on passing downs
34:52and having Reese do 90% of the rushing. Hopefully they've just flipped that up a little bit because Hall is one of
34:59the best pass-catching running backs in the NFL. You never know.
35:03They do a lot of stupid things. I feel like he has some good runs, but he also, like, he's a little choppy.
35:10Like, he's got a bunch of runs that go nowhere also.
35:13Doesn't everyone, but... Allen? Sort of. Yeah, Allen. He looked great today.
35:17I think, yeah. No, he had some amazing runs today.
35:20Last week, too. Some of his runs are great, and then some of them just go absolutely nowhere.
35:26And yes, you could say that about a lot of running backs.
35:30I think they'd have more consistency with Brees. Certainly think Brees will be the lead back there.
35:35And if Brees ends up playing like Brees should end up playing, then you're not going to see a lot of Braylon Allen.
35:43He'll be, like, on the field a third of the time.
35:46Might have eight touches. I'm not... I wouldn't expect a 50-50 split for very long once Brees comes back.
35:52I don't know if that's what you were saying.
35:55I do not expect a 50-50 split at all.
35:58Right. I don't know what you're expecting, but... I'm expecting him to be annoying.
36:02You liked what you saw from him. I'm expecting him to be annoying for fantasy.
36:07Like, maybe a... Is he the goal line guy?
36:10Could be. And by the way, he's averaging... That would be annoying.
36:14He's averaging 4.2 yards per carry, and Brees Hall's averaging 3.2 yards per carry this year.
36:19So, Brees Hall hasn't run the ball well. All right.
36:22Moving on to the games. All right. Let's get to the games.
36:26And Houston-Jacksonville. This was a fun one. Actually, wait.
36:29I forgot about the goal line work and the...
36:32I'm sorry for the... No, I know the graphics.
36:34I don't know. We'll come... Goal line work, almost touchdowns.
36:38All right. It's the same thing in Jacksonville. Both guys get used near the goal line.
36:43Kendry Miller was the clear goal line back today, although they had a kind of a...
36:48I wouldn't call it a trick play, a misdirection play where C.J.
36:52Donaldson got a goal line carry and had a touchdown overturned.
36:55But Kendry Miller was also in the backfield on that play.
36:59Audrick Estime had a goal line touchdown for Cleveland.
37:01So, Jaleel McLaughlin, I'm assuming he played a lot more than Estime.
37:05Estime had the touchdown. We saw both Steelers running backs used near the goal line.
37:10So, I imagine it'll be kind of like that going forward, but we'll see.
37:15And that's about it I got there. For almost touchdowns, A.J.
37:18Brown had an almost big day, but he had a ball in his hands in the end zone.
37:24That was a tough catch. Let's see. Puka Nakua.
37:27Puka Nakua was wide open. I mean, that could have made his day and Stafford's day right there.
37:32Stafford got hit as he threw. That was... I don't even know.
37:3660-something yard touchdown? Puka wide open. Roshan Johnson, if you started him at the very end of the game, he slid down
37:43at about the two-yard line instead of scoring. Colson Loveland should have had a second touchdown.
37:48I thought that was on Caleb. Caleb should have thrown the ball earlier.
37:52Tom Brady thought Colson Loveland didn't run his route that well.
37:56Oh, Josh Downs did come up a yard short of a rushing touchdown.
38:00So, there's that. Brock Bowers drew a pass interference penalty in the end zone.
38:04Although, I'm writing that, but I don't even remember that.
38:08Yeah, then Gentty scored. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basial Tudin for the second time this year.
38:12Not for the second time this year, he had a touchdown call back because that's happened at least three times.
38:19That's happened twice in one game. Yeah, so I think that's four times.
38:23But for the second time this year, he had a call back on what I think was a pretty dubious, if not bad, call.
38:30I thought there was one angle of that that showed it was pretty clearly a hold.
38:36Really? Okay. I think so. He had a fistful of jersey.
38:39Was there a worse holding call than Miami Forest State?
38:42No. No. A holding penalty. Yeah. Dalton Kinkade had a touchdown call back on a hold.
38:47Dalton Kinkade was back in his hometown this week.
38:50I didn't realize that. I think they were trying to get him going because he had a lot of targets.
38:57And Jamie mentioned Omar Cooper Jr. had a touchdown call back on pass interference on his teammate, Tim Patrick.
39:03Okay. McCarthy had neighbors wide open, too, on the likely pass.
39:06On the last play of the game? Yeah. Oh, no kidding.
39:10I didn't know that. Great. Now I feel better.
39:12I don't know wide open, but he was open.
39:15Well, he was under pressure. Yeah. Houston 34. Jacksonville 31.
39:18I was going to play a joke on the producers and be like, actually, but we'll leave this graphic up.
39:25Yeah. This was a great game for fantasy, and the quarterbacks played well.
39:29And do you think, Dave, that Woody Marks has forward momentum going?
39:33He didn't have a great game. He had 15 carries for 56 yards, two catches for 25 yards.
39:38Do you think he did enough to be a must-start against the Giants next week?
39:43Yes. And for now, he's still the lead back for Houston.
39:47We'll see if David Montgomery's healthy. One of my guilty pleasures is Jowar Jordan.
39:51I liked him when he played in college, and he had the touchdown run today.
39:56Did a good job just reading the blocking and cutting back.
39:59I don't think Jordan is going to make big inroads on Woody Marks' turf here either.
40:05So Woody Marks played 78% of the snaps, had every third down snap, every snap inside the five.
40:10I think he can be better than this next week against the G-Men.
40:14Is Nico Collins a buy low or a get what you can candidate?
40:18Asks. It's a good question. Eric! There he is.
40:21He asks if Nico's a buy low or get what you can.
40:25I don't think he's either. I mean, if you can buy low, sure.
40:29Go for it. So maybe he is that. But I don't think a lot of people are interested in selling Nico right now.
40:37But you see where he's coming from. I mean, first game with Marvin Harrison Jr., we have – what was the target share for Nico Collins?
40:45He had five of 34. Yeah. That's bad. Pretty low target share on 34 pass attempts.
40:50Well, Dalton Schultz led the way with six. And last week, he didn't have a very good game either, Nico Collins.
40:57So I think he did draw two pass interference penalties.
41:00One of them was in the end zone. I don't think it was a good call.
41:05But he did draw two penalties. And those don't count as targets, by the way.
41:10So I guess there's that silver lining. But what do you – okay, he was a pick right around the 2-3 turn during draft season.
41:18Where would you take Nico right now? Right there.
41:20Yeah. Why don't you – let's rank Nico, Zay, and Devontae Smith rest of the season.
41:26Zay, Nico, Devontae. Yeah. Tempted to put Zay ahead of Nico.
41:29But that doesn't mean that Nico's bad. I mean, three weeks ago, he had, what, over 100 yards and two touchdowns?
41:36I think I might take Devontae too. Over Nico?
41:39Just took advantage of what might be the worst cornerback duo.
41:42Yeah. I can't do that. I read the AP recap of that Eagles game.
41:47We'll get to that in a minute. And it was so negative because I barely saw Tanner McKee.
41:52But it was like – it made me think that he played like absolute garbage.
41:57And I'm going to watch the tape tomorrow and all that.
42:00We'll probably talk about it on Beyond the Box score.
42:04But we might have gotten pretty lucky with Devontae Smith.
42:07But then again, it was, you know, his first start this year.
42:11I thought until that drive where he threw the touchdown, Devontae Smith, I thought he was the worst starting quarterback that played today.
42:18Like worse than Jalen Daniels. Worse than – Did you watch Jameis?
42:22Yeah, right. Jameis was really bad today. Snoop. Jameis was terrible.
42:25How do we feel – a question from the chat.
42:28How do we feel about Marvin Harrison Jr. after his first game?
42:32Encouraged. Yeah. Encouraged. Yep. Okay. How many routes did he run, Dave?
42:36Do you know? I can look. Yeah. I still have the Dontavian Wicks numbers waiting for you.
42:41Oh. And – We'll get to that with the Philly game.
42:45I know we're not supposed to talk about it, but I'm just going to say it so maybe it happens.
42:51Stop running the ball, Green Bay. Just stop. Just throw every play.
42:55So last thing on this game is – I mentioned that Jacoby Myers – I hope this is a sign of things
43:02to come because he had a target share like over 20 percent, five or six years in a row.
43:08And he just had not been targeted at all.
43:11He finally got it going today. I don't think it's going to be consistent, but I do feel like there's better times ahead.
43:18They just need to play Travis Heiner every snap all the time.
43:22Well, that could happen too. It's a big discussion.
43:25It's a big discussion. What are they going to do with him?
43:29Yep. Marvin Harrison Jr. nine routes. Nico 29. Nico 29?
43:32Nico 29 routes. Marvin Harrison Jr. nine routes. Oh, Marvin Harrison Jr.
43:36I'm sorry. My mind was on Travis Hunter there.
43:39Okay. Travis Hunter. By the way, just keep this in mind for 2027.
43:43Travis Hunter's games before the bye are epic. In London.
43:46Well, yeah. I think he has scored more fantasy points in London than he has in America.
43:51Yeah. Well, last year was the one he went nuts, and then he got hurt.
43:56He got hurt in practice. Yeah. That was that.
43:59All right, we're going to take a break here.
44:02And actually, sorry, let's finish up on this game.
44:05This is a very fantasy relevant game. How about Basil Tootin?
44:08You know, he splits carries basically even with Chris Rodriguez, but he gets two receiving touchdowns when he had 11 targets, I
44:15think, coming into the game in five games. So, Heath, what does that mean to you, Basil Tootin's game?
44:21He's a very good RB2. Not an RB1? No.
44:24No. I don't think he's – no, there were still too many Chris Rodriguez carries for me to say he's an RB1, but he's a very good RB2.
44:33You know what? Heath just kind of touched on this a little bit.
44:37Like, Josh Downs is a very talented player, and today he got opportunities and he doesn't deliver.
44:43Basil Tootin's a very talented player, and he delivers on his opportunities.
44:46Like, this is what we love about fantasy guys like this, is that when they find a way in some way, shape,
44:53or form – because he wasn't running the ball very well today at all, but he catches two touchdowns.
44:59Like, that's, to me, the sign of like, okay, you can see that there's so much more available to him because he's really good.
45:07And if Jacksonville would just say, you know what?
45:10Like what John Harbaugh said, we're waiting for somebody to be the guy.
45:14Like, it's pretty clear for Jacksonville, Basil Tootin's the guy.
45:17Let him be the guy. Get Chris Rodriguez out of there until you need him in an emergency situation.
45:23Like, give Basil Tootin 80% of the touches. Let's see what he can do.
45:28But he was the guy each of their last two games.
45:3122 carries last week against Philly, 17 against Cincinnati.
45:34Chris Rodriguez in those two games combined was eight carries.
45:37It's just not consistent. That's the problem. Right. And so I don't know what it's going to take for Liam Cohen to
45:44commit all the way to Basil Tootin every week instead of one week he's got it and then the next week he doesn't.
45:52He committed five weeks in a row. This was the first game that was like this.
45:57No, no, no, no. He's obviously the lead guy, but it's not like what we want to see, which is we want
46:04to see him be the only guy. Right. That's not going to happen.
46:08And that's what it was last week against Philly.
46:11Go ahead, Heath. In fairness, Chris Rodriguez was quite a bit better running the football today.
46:16Yeah, he was awesome. He's probably averaging more yards per carry for the season than Basil Tootin is.
46:21It's probably true. All right. It is true. Barely.
46:244.3 to 4.1. We'll be right back. We'll talk about the rest of the games after this.
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48:54We are back. Let's talk about game number two, and that is, in my notes, Chicago 31, Atlanta 23.
49:00Atlanta had the ball for less than 20 minutes in this game, and they had a furious comeback in the fourth quarter.
49:07And B. John Robinson had a horrible fantasy game because they barely had the ball.
49:12I don't think we're worried about him, but it is two bad B.
49:16John games in a row. Last week, you know, 15.8 fantasy points, 21 touches, whatever.
49:21This week, only 11 touches. Just to get it out of the way, we're not worried about B.
49:26John, right? Nope. You can try making offers for him, but I don't think you're going to get anywhere.
49:32I'm not worried about it. Would you rather rest of the season, Ken Walker or B.
49:37John Robinson? I'm going to go B. John and PPR and Walker and...
49:42I don't know, man. I think Walker is just rolling right now.
49:45Kind of hard to say B. John. I think I'm taking Walker.
49:49Yeah, he's pretty good. It's been awesome. Not worried about London.
49:53We talked about Pitt. So, anything on the other?
49:56Anything on the other? I would like to see the Falcons trailing more.
50:00Michael Penix was good. Yeah, he kind of came alive well into the second half.
50:04And that really helped him. The Bears defense, like, turned to crap when it was 31-7.
50:10It's almost like they figured the game was over and the Falcons were like, oh, not so fast.
50:15And they started to get moving a little bit.
50:18And then the Pitt's two touchdowns and two-point conversions after that gave Atlanta a chance.
50:23But they had a B. John holding penalty late in the game.
50:27The Bears' pass rush was actually a lot better this week.
50:30They got to Penix a lot in the second half and certainly toward the end of the game.
50:36And that made a huge difference. Kyler Gordon was back for them.
50:40He had three sacks. So, they were sending the nickel blitz quite often.
50:44And just too little too late for Atlanta, who two big turnovers on special teams just absolutely killed them.
50:50And that's a huge reason why they barely had the ball.
50:53And does anybody have anything to say about Caleb Williams?
50:57Because career-high completion rate, 305 passing yards, only 18 fantasy points.
51:00Heath, what are your thoughts on Caleb? I think I said at the beginning of the show, kudos.
51:06Fantastic. They like that all the time. The touchdowns will come.
51:09Like, it was a game where they had three rushing touchdowns.
51:13They'll probably have one or two most games. Great day.
51:16And Loveland. Kudos. Oh, go ahead. What's that? Isn't there a cereal kudos?
51:20No, it was a candy bar. Yeah. Candy bar.
51:23Snack bar. Snack bar. It was really a candy bar disguised as a snack bar.
51:28Those are really good, though. The cookies. Does Thomas have any idea of kudos?
51:32Because that's. Yeah, I do. I do. Okay. Thomas is good.
51:36I figured that that was around in the 90s.
51:38Not that young. Okay. Okay. Loveland should have had that second touchdown.
51:42And if he has that, then we're going crazy for Caleb Williams.
51:46If you've got him, you should feel great about him.
51:49Plus, two short touchdowns. For DeAndre Swift. If one of those goes Caleb's way, you're thrilled.
51:54Dave. You have your handy laminated schedule. Who do the Bears have next week?
51:59Next week, the Bears have New England. Then Seattle.
52:02Because that's the game of the week. Yeah. A Thursday night game of the week.
52:06It's the Patriots and the Bears, baby. I think it's a great call.
52:11The early game of the week. Hey. I love it.
52:14It's a great call. The way that Drake May has been playing.
52:18I did love that Patriots defense. We can talk about that when we get to that game.
52:23But that should be a fun one on Thursday.
52:26No question. Next game. Cleveland 13, Baltimore 10. Is anybody worried about Derrick Henry?
52:30I brought this up on Beyond the Box score.
52:33That he had a pretty easy schedule in his first five games.
52:37Colts, Saints, Cowboys, Titans, Falcons. And he had a pretty hard schedule after.
52:41I don't know. It was some hard games. You have the Jaguars on there and the Texans.
52:47I guess it's not that hard. It depends on Cincinnati.
52:50But I don't know. He fumbled today. Never. No one's worried about him.
52:54Forget it. Once Lamar comes back, he's going to be great, right?
52:58Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any takeaways for Cleveland? Bad game for Denzel Boston.
53:01Bad game for Deshaun Watson. Bad game. Yeah. Bad game.
53:05It was. It was just absolutely. Good game for Jerry Judy.
53:08Yeah. He had the most impactful catches. Played some good football today.
53:12He did. You wonder if some team offers him more than he's worth, but try to trade for him.
53:18Would you want to? I don't know. Cleveland's 4-2.
53:21Cleveland is 4-2, but you could still maximize your team's potential by moving on from somebody who might be replaceable from a production standpoint.
53:28And you have two really good young receivers that Jerry Judy's not part of the future.
53:34I get it. And I'd be surprised if Judy was a part of the future for the Cleveland Browns.
53:40But if he's who Deshaun Watson is trusting and he's making catches like he did today, look, I don't know.
53:46I'm a bi-week replacement at wide receiver maybe because his track record has just been so gross.
53:51But if that's who Watson has trust with, then I think they've got to keep him.
53:56Where's the bet at after today? It is closer.
53:59I checked earlier. So I think Zay Flowers is currently ahead only by 1.7 fantasy points per game.
54:05That's amazing. That's amazing. So you guys, one of you at least, put him as a first-round pick when we did our show on Wednesday.
54:13You have to guess which one? Lamar should be back.
54:16Lamar should be back. And Zay Flowers is just going to be incredible.
54:20That's probably going to be what happens. But this was two sides for you that happened today because the Giants lost a
54:27little bit of their – well, potentially a little bit of their lead.
54:31And so it could fall out of the playoff contention sooner.
54:35But no, he's already changed those terms as far as when it starts.
54:39Yeah, forget about that. All right, back to fantasy real quick here.
54:43Speaking of moving on, someone said moving on like a minute ago.
54:47And I thought, speaking of moving on, would you move on from Harold Fannin Jr.?
54:51I think you can. I think similar to what we've seen from Loveland and Pitts because Fannin had two good weeks.
54:58Like we're going to get these type of performances from these guys where they'll have a good week or two and then
55:05they'll disappear for a week or two and then they'll bounce back.
55:09So depending on what your tight end situation is, he's probably one that you should carry too.
55:14Yeah. Oh, yeah. Carolina 25, Philadelphia 14. So then what do we think about the – Wait, should we discuss the Browns backfield if there's no Judkins again?
55:23Sure. Who would you prefer? Still McLaughlin. But he's available in a bunch of leagues.
55:28I mean, we'll talk about him Tuesday. I'm going to guess Judkins plays though just based on how close he was to playing this week.
55:36How close was he? Well, I mean, he worked out pregame.
55:39He practiced on Friday. So that's a sign I'm sure that he was close to playing.
55:44McLaughlin led the way. 62% of the snaps. Half the third down snaps.
55:49Estime, of course, the big boy had two of three snaps inside the 10.
55:53It's ugly. McLaughlin had a couple. He had the nice run, nine-yard run and good average in the game.
55:59I don't really want to trust either one. Carolina 25, Philadelphia 14.
56:0314, Philadelphia 14. So, yeah. How freaked out should we be about the Eagles offense right now based on this game?
56:10This was what I was expecting from Dallas Goddard.
56:12This was great for their skill players. What are you talking about?
56:16Yeah. Well, I think the final numbers were. I saw almost nothing.
56:20But like I said, what I read was very discouraging.
56:23It seemed like Tanner McKee was horrible. He said he was horrible.
56:27There's how the sausage gets made and then what you're seeing as the finished product.
56:32Like, it's probably not going to be pretty with a second backup quarterback.
56:36It's probably not going to be consistent in an offense that clearly has got a lot of issues with Jalen Hurts or without Jalen Hurts.
56:44But if you were to say, again, by the end of the game, the running back had, what, 15 PPR points.
56:51The two receivers or the receiver in the tight end, both north of 12 PPR points, like a billion targets for Devontae Smith.
56:58Like, you'll take that. And I think like the asterisk is this is one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
57:05And the answer to that is they play the Commanders and the Giants the next two weeks.
57:10They get the Cowboys soon, don't they? The Cowboys, Commanders and Giants?
57:14Yeah, it's three straight NFC. How dare you? Yeah.
57:17So, like I said, it's probably going to be okay for the next three weeks.
57:21And I'd be worried if they start playing good defenses and Jalen Hurts isn't back.
57:26And I don't know if Jalen Hurts is coming back.
57:29So maybe if you can stack one or two of these and then you can trade Devontae Smith.
57:35They have the Eagles have one good defense until the fantasy playoffs.
57:39Right. And then it gets there at home for a big stretch of games.
57:43Through Thanksgiving. The fantasy playoffs is brutal. Seattle, Houston at San Francisco.
57:47But the schedule leading up to that is amazing.
57:50I can't imagine there's a team with a better schedule than the Philadelphia Eagles for the next two months, basically.
57:56Minnesota's up there. Okay. Good to know. There is some...
57:59I saw a few publications. And I'm curious your thoughts on this, Adam.
58:04Saquon Barkley to the Giants. How cool would that be?
58:07I would love that. That would be really cool.
58:10Because, like, Mike, both of my kids... Both of my kids have Barkley jerseys.
58:14So that would be just very convenient. Hand-me-downs. So, anyway, Devontae Smith...
58:18I'll ask what I asked about Nico. He was like a mid-third-round pick on draft day.
58:23Where would you take him now? Later than that.
58:26A little later. Mid-third round, yeah. Yeah, like... If he's getting double-digit targets every week, you're going to be thrilled.
58:32He's not going to get double-digit targets every week, though.
58:35Oh, if you're getting eight-plus. Excuse me. Well, that's...
58:38Yeah, that's good. All right. Let's go. I think the Panthers are pretty self-explanatory.
58:43I just wanted to see which... I just wanted to see who...
58:47Just stay healthy, Jalen Coker, please. I wanted to see which tight end ran more routes today.
58:52And it was Tremble, just barely. He ran half the routes.
58:55Waller, 45%. I'll have updated numbers for you tomorrow.
58:58Darren Waller's all about that base. Tennessee... Not sure I get that.
59:02Oh, no Tremble. Tennessee, 26. Indianapolis, 20. That was good.
59:05Colts had the ball for 38 minutes and 32 seconds.
59:08The Titans won this game somehow. They had a defensive touchdown.
59:12Turnovers. It was a special teams touchdown. A blocked punt.
59:15Yeah. They also had a big interception. Oh, gosh.
59:18Great catch. Heath, what the hell should we talk about with this game?
59:22What do you think? Carnell Tate's awesome. Keenan Allen apparently matters a little bit.
59:27We'll see how long that Tyler Warren's injured. But Keenan Allen maybe have to be ranked like right behind Josh Downs or maybe ahead of him.
59:35So three straight games Allen has played since Alec Pierce's injury.
59:38Nine, nine and 11 targets. Right. He's their best receiver.
59:41Yeah. On the Titans side of the ball, Tony Pollard is such an interesting player.
59:46I mean, this guy, 14, 17, 16, 19 carries in his last four games.
59:51And I don't know. He's been good in two of them.
59:54He's been kind of meh. He's been bad from PPR in two of them.
59:59He almost never scores. He has one touchdown. But he's a nice guy to have on your...
60:04They're not throwing to him either. Yeah. Right. One game he had four catches.
60:09Other than that, he has combined four catches, I think, in the other five.
60:13I might be missing one. Okay. All right. That's good enough for this one.
60:17Is he a trap back because he's not getting the high value touches?
60:22Or is he a trap back because he's trapped in Tennessee and they don't get near the goal line enough?
60:28Would you take Tony Pollard on the Giants? Yeah.
60:31He is not a trap back, though, because he is the goal line back.
60:35Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. But he doesn't score.
60:38You have to score. That's the trap. Speaking of the Giants, they lost 34-27 to the Saints.
60:43It was a 24-point game in the fourth quarter, and it became a pretty fun one at the end.
60:49You know, they benched Shuck at one point. They pulled him from the game.
60:54They didn't bench him. Right. They thought that they had the game in hand and Spencer Radley came.
61:00I said the wrong term. Yeah. Yeah. Kellen Moore, I think, regretted that after the game.
61:05They asked him about it. Shuck didn't really play very well, right?
61:09No. Okay. So I don't know how much you guys watched the game.
61:13I watched it almost in entirety. He had a lot of...
61:16Not a lot of drops. He had a few drops.
61:19He had some errant throws. He should have had better numbers passing.
61:23Yeah. I don't know. That wasn't really my impression.
61:26I mean, I'm sure that is true, but I didn't think he played well, regardless.
61:31He only threw for 144 yards. Actually, to be quite honest with you, I don't think the Giants defense is the layup
61:38that I thought it was going to be. They're playing fairly well.
61:42They were today. They blitzed the crap out of people.
61:45They give up touchdowns to quarterbacks. It's now five games in a row with multiple touchdowns to every quarterback they face.
61:51Right. I was buying into this Giants defense a little bit too much, too.
61:56But then you see them. They've got a fourth down, fourth and short, right at the end of the half.
62:02And Bryce Lance is running wide open at the post.
62:05And then the Alvin Kamara play is just crazy.
62:08I think four guys got their hands on him.
62:11And you've talked, Adam, about how slow he is and how he doesn't have explosive plays.
62:16And here he is getting an explosive play for a 31-yard touchdown on a screen pass from Tyler Shuck.
62:22And then you throw in the tush push on top of it.
62:26But the numbers are going to be great for Shuck.
62:29And everybody who started him is thrilled. And everybody who benched him is mad because they probably started Mahomes or Jameis or something like that.
62:37But I hear what he's saying. And I kind of agree.
62:41I don't think this was a particularly great game.
62:44And what you're saying, Adam, I don't think it was a great game for Shuck.
62:48Adam, who has more fantasy points? Isaiah Likely or Trey McBride?
62:52Likely. Likely. It is Isaiah Likely by four. And I think just to wrap it up on the Saints here, you know,
62:59you're going to keep starting Olave and Vele will be asked about every Sunday.
63:03I get it. But, you know, Shuck has Pittsburgh and Cleveland next.
63:07So, you know, you think he's going to be top 12?
63:11Probably around 12th this next week? I don't think he'll be top 12 for me this week.
63:16Next week. He'll be in that range. And then, yeah, Kendrick Miller appears to be the best.
63:21He'll be ranked behind the guy he's starting against.
63:24Behind Rodgers? Yeah. Of course. There's something. We'll talk about that game very soon.
63:29But something that I'm not liking at all about Aaron Rodgers.
63:32And, yeah, who do you think would be a better quarterback for Neighbors and Likely?
63:37McCarthy or Jameis? I mean, that's a Spider-Man meme.
63:40They're both. Yeah, right. It's just give them opportunities to make plays.
63:44And both have done that. I think McCarthy might have the stronger arm.
63:48And they're both not particularly accurate. And McCarthy can move a little better than Jameis.
63:53I would lean toward McCarthy. But it's not a good pick.
63:56Okay. I mean, this is easily the best wide receiver tight end duo in the NFL.
64:01In fantasy? Who's better in reality? Evans Kittle. Go on.
64:04Monroe LaPorter. Also go on. Yeah. Fan in. No.
64:07I would take these two if they had Purdy or golf.
64:11All right. Pittsburgh. That was a joke. Pittsburgh 26, Tampa Bay 19.
64:14Quote of the game from Aaron Rodgers. Once we got DK involved, the offense shifted.
64:19Maybe we can get that going a little earlier next time.
64:23DK Mech have 11 catches, 93 yards on 15 targets.
64:26Are we optimistic about him going forward? You have to be.
64:29Heath, good job by you to stick with him.
64:32Yeah, it didn't feel very good in the first half.
64:35No. Too tough. I think what you're going to say, Adam, that I'm a little bit worried about for DK is you
64:42mentioned that last week Rodgers started to go short, short, short again.
64:46And holy cow did he do that in this game.
64:49Even several of the DK targets were just right at the line of scrimmage.
64:54I don't think he really trusts his offensive line right now at all.
64:58But listen, one of the things we talked about this morning, he was throwing 38 passes per game coming into this game.
65:05Yeah, I know it was overtime. Threw 49 passes in this game.
65:09If he's going to throw it 40 times a game, then DK is probably going to be a low-end number two wide receiver.
65:16Is it that he didn't trust his offensive line or he was scared to death of the blitz that the Bucs bring pretty much every single play?
65:25He got knocked around. Thursday or Friday, whenever we broke down this game, this could be another week of that.
65:31Yeah. Five sacks by Tampa. I think Tampa's defense is good.
65:35Yeah. Yeah, I think we went into the season, I at least thought this was an easy matchup for quarterbacks, whatever, and wide receivers.
65:42And they seem to be doing a pretty good job.
65:45And then they fell apart at the end of the Dallas game a little bit.
65:50They fell apart in overtime of this game. But to give you some reference here, the lowest air yards per pass attempt,
65:57or let's just call it ADOT for syllable simplicity.
66:00The lowest ADOT for any quarterback in the NFL is Bo Nix at 4.9.
66:04And that is so unbelievably low. Second lowest is Jalen Daniels.
66:08Of the Bucs at 6.1. The last two games for Aaron Rodgers have been lower than Bo Nix.
66:14It was like 4.6 last week. And unofficially, I'll say, because these things can change, 4.2.
66:19No, 4.0 intended air yards per pass attempt this week.
66:22I bet it's higher next week. Yeah, he's got the Saints.
66:25I hope so. But I don't love seeing that.
66:28But what did you guys think of Jalen Warren's usage, Jamie?
66:32Sucked. It was good at the end of the game, good in overtime.
66:36But it was not great. Certainly largely disappointing by what we saw the previous three games without Rico Dato there.
66:42So Dato ran better than him the majority of the game.
66:46So you just still start him as a number two running back.
66:50But this was the concern is that when he gets competition, he's not going to be as great.
66:55And you should have sold high when you had the chance.
66:59What? That's not fair. We were talking about how great he was all week.
67:03Like he wasn't really a sell high. No, he was definitely a sell high.
67:08Only if you were going to get what? We were even nervous about giving him up for like Chase Brown, I feel.
67:15I think we were much more high. You could certainly be.
67:18I mean, I'll go back and listen to Wednesday's show.
67:21I think it was either Dave or Heath said he was a sell high, if I'm not mistaken.
67:27There was going to be a change. You had to expect a change.
67:31We didn't expect it to be this bad of a change, but there had to be a change.
67:37And so this was one of the more obvious sell high candidates.
67:41I don't know. I think we felt like he was a...
67:44I'm going to think, I'm going to guess what we said was you don't give him away.
67:50Well, I think we thought it was like a top...
67:53And yes, you have reservations about Chase Brown level player, but if you could have turned him into something great, you should have tried to do so.
68:01I think you could say that about, yeah, most guys, but I feel like we felt like he was going to be
68:08a real fantasy asset, like basically a must-start guy.
68:11Agreed. Agreed. But there was going to be a decrease in production, a decrease in playing time, and we saw it play out today.
68:19Well... It wasn't that bad. It was 74% of the snaps, so...
68:23I don't know if I'm going to say a huge decrease.
68:26It's a little bit... Yeah, that's fine. Still percentages, I mean...
68:30I don't like the efficiency at all. Right. He had two-thirds of the carries.
68:34Right. Aaron Rodgers throws 49 times, Warren has four catches, and Rodgers is throwing short, and Warren has four targets, I should say.
68:41Excuse me. Four targets, two catches. All right, so give me Devontae Smith or Jalen Warren, rest of season?
68:47Devontae. It's probably what you need, but I would say in a vacuum it would be...
68:52I kind of... Devontae. I'll say Warren. Warren, I'm not buying the Tanner McKee's going to throw 45 times every week.
68:59Did you see the start of that game? I don't think they had a design rush attempt their first two drives.
69:06Would you? If you had Damian Pierce and Carson Steele as your running back?
69:10If I had Tanner McKee throwing the ball, I would.
69:13I'd throw in at least one run. I think we're going to get Baker Mayfield back next week, hopefully.
69:20And at least if you had the guts to start Ibuka the last two weeks, it's worked out.
69:25He was 68% started this week. Seven catches, 48 yards, and a touchdown on 16 targets.
69:30He's still not playing as well as I would like to see him play.
69:35Like, I know it's Jalen Daniels, and it's an undrafted rookie, and he's not...
69:39Like, he's not a regular NFL quarterback. But it seems like Ibuka leaves yards and catches on the field every game.
69:46Yeah, Dave said Wednesday, sell high on Jalen Warren.
69:49Yeah. Right, but I still think we thought, like, he'd be pretty good.
69:53I think he'd be better than he was today.
69:56Nobody's saying he's going to be 9.8 PPR fantasy points the rest of the year.
70:00Everybody's still going to start Jalen Warren, unless you're just absolutely loaded at running back.
70:05And if you want to try and sell him now, you can.
70:09You're not going to be able to get what you got 48 hours ago.
70:14But you're still going to be able to get something good for Jalen Warren.
70:18I don't think this is a representation of who he's going to be the rest of the season.
70:24And as for Ibuka, like, 37% target share is real great.
70:27I don't think it's going to be that high anytime soon.
70:31If you can sell high on Ibuka, you have an out.
70:34There's an off-ramp here. All right, New England 26, Jets 19.
70:38And we talked about Braylon Allen. Yes, of course, Christian Gonzalez.
70:41I don't know if it was shadowing like he normally does, but he was on Garrett Wilson quite a bit.
70:48So not a surprise that Wilson didn't have a very good game.
70:51He had four catches for 44 yards on six targets.
70:55We could get Adam Mitchell back next week. That could hurt Omar Cooper Jr.
70:59If you're thinking about him for waivers, but that's a topic for Tuesday.
71:03Drake May is great. We talked about Ramondre. I honestly feel like we covered everything in this game.
71:09And what we haven't covered, we'll cover on Tuesday.
71:12But who's more of a priority to get on waiver wire?
71:15Demario Douglas or Hunter Henry? Henry. Yeah. It's the position scarcity for me.
71:19Would you rather have Jalen Warren or A.J. Brown rest of season?
71:23A.J. Brown. Warren. Warren. Kansas City 22, the Chargers 6.
71:26Surprise, the Chargers had 6 points. Please drop Justin Herbert.
71:29He's going into his bye. Then he has the Rams in Houston.
71:33So please drop him already. Yeah, Heath? Tweet of the game.
71:37I thought that was really cool. NFL researcher. Kenneth Walker is the first player with at least 750 scrimmage yards and 8
71:44touchdowns through the first 5 games of a season since?
71:47Danian? No. Who was it? Was it another Chiefs running back?
71:50Just guessing. DeMarco Murray. Brian Westbrook. Arian Foster. Priest Holmes.
71:54Dave got it. Well, that's because he got to guess last.
71:57That wasn't fair. I said before anybody guessed anything, was it a former Chiefs running back?
72:02Who do you think I was thinking about? I could have been thinking about Jamal Charles, I guess.
72:08Poor Lad McConkie. Tough year. Yeah. What would you do if someone dropped Omari and Hampton?
72:13Congratulate them. This backfield is a three-way split all the way through.
72:17And I don't know if there's even one good running back on this team at this point.
72:22Trade him. Trade him? What are you going to get for him?
72:26Chargers. Trade him. Oh, the Chargers trade him. Sure.
72:29That's what they're going to do. The Chiefs, other than Kenneth Walker, played an awful, uninspired football game today.
72:35It was gross. Were you at least okay with what Xavier Worthy did?
72:39He made a couple of nice catches on bad throws for Mahomes.
72:43It was like they just knew they showed up for a preseason game.
72:47And I watched this team play the Dolphins. The Chargers are the worst team in the NFL.
72:52Oh, yeah. Mahomes has thrown 30 or fewer pass attempts in four or five games.
72:57He started out the 2024 season similarly. He threw fewer than 30 passes in four of six games.
73:03And then in the last 10 games of the year, he averaged 39.4 passes per game.
73:08Pull up that handy-dandy laminated schedule, Dave. Sure. Let's talk about what's coming for the Chiefs.
73:13I think he's going to throw a few more passes in the upcoming weeks.
73:18Seattle next week. Denver after that. Jets after that.
73:20Atlanta after that. Why? Why do you think he's going to do that?
73:25I think they're going to be in more competitive games.
73:28I don't see a lot of good offenses on this schedule.
73:31Seattle is fine. Denver, they're basically the Chargers. Jets?
73:34Falcons? They're basically the Chargers. What? They are? I don't know.
73:38I mean, they run the ball. Every offense you said was better than the Dolphins and the Chargers.
73:43They run the ball so well. I mean, I don't think Walker can keep this pace up.
73:49But didn't the Chiefs lose a couple of linemen?
73:52You said that about Bauer going into the weekend and he sucked.
73:55Yeah, that's true. Didn't the Chiefs lose a couple of linemen in this game?
74:00Yep. One to a concussion. I don't remember what the other one was.
74:04But yeah, they were playing third string linemen. So were the Chargers.
74:08They were very comfortable in this environment. Those guys have played a lot of preseason games against opponents like this.
74:14If you knew that Joe Ault and Rashawn Slater were going to play next week, it's not going to happen.
74:20One's on IR. But whenever they come back and they're going to play, would it make you feel better about any of the Chargers players?
74:28No. They played at the start of the season.
74:31Ault was really bad at the start of the season.
74:34All right. Serious question here. Serious question. They're going to their bye.
74:38Do you think they'll get something sorted out and Amari and Hampton will be good after the bye?
74:44No. If interim offense coordinator Adam Gase decides to run Amari and Hampton more, and if you're still not laughing with what
74:51I'm saying, no, there's nothing that's going to get better.
74:54I'm not laughing. The biggest disappointment and bust in maybe the last 10 years.
74:59Okay. Second question. Second question. The most hilarious thing is that Adam Gase is the backup plan.
75:04Unless they just decide we're going to just fire everybody except Harbaugh.
75:08And he just coaches everything. Second question is, do you think Xavier Worthy will continue to be good when Rasheed Rice is back?
75:15No. Nope. Okay. Let me ask a third question.
75:18No. Can we go to the next game, please?
75:21Do you think the Chiefs go full nuclear and move Justin Herbert?
75:25If a team like the Giants, Chargers, yes, that's what I meant.
75:28I was thinking Howie might try to pull the Goff-Stafford deal.
75:32Team loads up with first-round picks to the Chargers for Herbert.
75:35I mean, he sounds like the next Andrew Luck based on the things he's saying.
75:40And, like, again, again, I know the situation's awful and I feel bad for him.
75:45Every week, it's one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen.
75:48I know. What is happening? It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Like, there was not – Mahomes threw a terrible interception, but there were at
75:55least other players from his team in the general vicinity of the bowl.
76:00I would like Jameis Winston and Justin Herbert to have an interception competition.
76:04All right. Let's go to Buffalo 33, Las Vegas 30.
76:07If you're wondering what happened with Brock Bowers, Christian Benford did not shadow him, but he was on him a lot, and
76:14he did a great job to the point where J.J.
76:17Watt said on the broadcast, like, don't take Christian Benford off of Brock Bowers.
76:21Bowers had a few catches on one possession, and he said, put 47 back on Bowers.
76:27I would put him on him for the rest of the game.
76:30That's what J.J. Watt said. It's pretty clear Keon Coleman is good without D.J.
76:35Moore. They're going into their bye. I assume D.J.
76:38Moore will be back. Do you guys think Keon Coleman or Khalil Shakir is worth holding through the bye?
76:44You should try to, especially in the case of – I think Coleman, but I'm not 100% sure.
76:49There's no guarantee that Moore returns. I mean – Right.
76:53There's not. He got into practice on Friday. He was questionable.
76:56So that's just what – So he did the same thing two weeks in a row, essentially.
77:02He practiced Friday in a non-contact jersey. Yeah. And I agree with you.
77:06He's probably getting closer. My guess is they saw their bye coming up and maybe felt they could beat the Raiders without him.
77:13I'm not going to say that's what they said, but who knows.
77:17But getting him healthy is a priority. If they do have Baltimore and Minnesota after the bye, how good are you going
77:24to feel starting those guys if D.J. Moore is playing?
77:27No. No. They're droppable. I don't think that they're like must drops by any stretch.
77:32Heath – Keon Coleman looks great though. Yeah. He really does look like a much better player than he did last year, yes.
77:39Heath, if you had Ashton Gentry, 10 carries, 22 yards and a touchdown.
77:43Four catches, 36 yards. Are you happy? I mean, I'm happy with the fantasy production.
77:48I'm going to be a little bit nervous every week.
77:51I think I would probably rather have Chase Brown than Ashton Gentry and I'd rather have Ashton Gentry than Jalen Warren.
77:58A.J. Brown or Ashton Gentry rest of season? I'll take Gentry.
78:01Gentry. As long as they're throwing him the ball.
78:04Gentry. Arizona, 18. Rams, 16. Thomas points out that the 2026 Chargers are the biggest disappointment since the 2026 Rams.
78:10It's unbelievable. That was fantastic. This is my favorite stat related to this game.
78:15The Arizona Cardinals have won more games at SoFi than the Rams and Chargers combined.
78:20Yeah. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah. It wasn't a great game for the Chargers, for the Cardinals though, from a fantasy standpoint.
78:26But yeah, go ahead, Jamie. We may have an unhappy player here.
78:30Kyron Williams after the game. Do you hear what he said?
78:34Yes. Great quote. Great quote. What did he say?
78:37He was asked why he thought the team couldn't sustain the energy drive to drive.
78:41Can't tell you, bro. Probably because I'm not out there.
78:44Meanwhile, he played 71% of the snaps, all but one of their third downs.
78:49They didn't get inside the 10, except for one snap.
78:52He was on it. It was just, this is going to be one to go back and watch and figure out what the hell happened.
79:00They just went hard. It was kind of like what the Bears did to Penix, I thought, early in that game, which
79:07was like, we're going to come at you really, really hard every play.
79:11And the Rams offensive line didn't handle it very well.
79:14They were missing one or two guys. Yeah, their left tackle, right?
79:18Right. But they just, they pressured him a lot and hit him a lot early in the game.
79:24I mean, to be honest with you, I don't think Stafford has played that well this year.
79:29No. Agreed. Missing open men. And he's, he threw two.
79:32He's got almost as many interceptions this year as he had all of last year.
79:37So I don't know, but this was surprising for sure.
79:40And we'll see what the Devante Adams injury is.
79:43And one of the risks with starting a Rams tight end is always the Colby Parkinson thing.
79:49Parkinson had more targets. He had the touchdown. Just very strange, you know, and you just never know which tight end is going to be the guy.
79:57So unfortunately for those of you who started Higby, he was started in 54% of leagues.
80:02It was a Parkinson day today. Parkinson had five catches, 31 yards and a touchdown on six targets.
80:08How good is Sean McVay going to be on Monday Night Football next year?
80:13If Jeremiah Love is out next week, are you going to go with Tyler Algier or Zonovan Knight?
80:18Bam Knight. Neither if I can help it. Yeah.
80:21Still Algier. It's Denver? Yeah. It looked to me like they didn't really change Algier's role and that they just kept him
80:28in that same passing downs type role. Why did that Mike LaFleur screw this up?
80:33I don't know if he screwed it up. They won.
80:36Nope. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was just better.
80:39He had the bigger run. Knight hit a couple of big runs early in the game and they just stayed with the hot hand.
80:47I think if, if next game Algier has a couple of big runs early in the game, you'll get a lot more carries.
80:54And on that note. And on that note. I'm disappointed he only had one catch.
80:59I'd like to end by saying that I understand riding the hot hand.
81:03I understand fumbling, you know, punishing people for fumbling.
81:06I think that John Harbaugh cost the Giants a game today by benching the only guy who has like any capability of running the football.
81:14Tyrone Tracy scored two touchdowns. Yeah. He scored, he scored a receiving touchdown and then fine.
81:19You know what? Give him the ball. Don't give Devin Singletary and Najee Harris the ball.
81:24Singletary looked great at the end. Oh, whatever. And every time the Giants, you know who led the team in rushing?
81:30JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy led the team in rushing with like 26 yards.
81:34And every time the Giants were in third and eight on every possession because they couldn't run the freaking ball.
81:41They're terrible on first down. So you proved your freaking point.
81:44Congratulations. You proved your point. What'd you prove? That you had a terrible running game and you cost yourself a game because
81:51you couldn't do jack crap on first down? Way to go.
81:55Don't you remember the preseason quote? And you said we were making too much of it.
82:00No. I just don't think they don't. They were talking about Cam Scadaboo starting a fight.
82:05Oh, yeah. At training camp and Harbaugh was all pissed off at them.
82:09They don't like this nonsense. No, that was one reporter who over- It's Dable's fault, really.
82:14I think what today showed us is they could trade Jackson Dart to the Eagles for Saquon Barkley.
82:20And JJ McCarthy is your future starter. There you go.
82:23Yep. Love it. I think this is a perfect time to plug Dan's podcast, Big Blue Banter.
82:29Yeah, watch me. It's going to be a great episode tonight.
82:32I don't know. We just got a lot of banter from a Big Blue fan just now, and that was pretty good.
82:39Oh, man. All right. Well, we'll talk soon. Is this the first time you've worn that schmata the entire day?
82:45On the show? Yes. This Giants hoodie? No, I've worn it before, I think.
82:50It's a very nice hoodie. Very comfortable hoodie. But you mushed them.
82:54I didn't mush them. They suck. Everyone knows they suck.
82:57They're just in the sucky division. They're clearly the best team in the division.
83:01By the way, Heath and Dave, you have to watch Adam's rants on the mailback.
83:06What was it about? What did he do? Oh, my God.
83:10I was broadcasting with the two biggest hypocrites in fantasy football history.
83:13Wrong. Wrong. We explained ourselves perfectly clear. Adam's shoulders.
83:16If you see where the draft board is, where our names are, that's how high Adam's shoulders were.
83:22He was so, so upset. Oh, man. It was great.
83:25And honestly, reading the comments, there are so many people that are like, Adam, you're so wrong.
83:30And so many people are like, Adam is right.
83:33It was a really great argument. I encourage you to listen.
83:37So I had a buddy of mine that I didn't know listens to our show.
83:42And he's like, it was a question about a husband and wife making a trade.
83:46And he just texted me 100% collusion. And so then his wife was like, and so I mentioned his name on the show.
83:54And then his wife was like, oh, what's the part where you said his name?
83:58And I said, it was between the husband and wife cheating and the alligator story.
84:03Like, it's just so crazy of a show. That's the mailbag for you.
84:07All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow. I'll be on the show.
84:11Oh, one more thing. One more thing. Somebody on the show is turning 50.
84:16Oh, yeah. That tomorrow? Somebody else on this show knew that somebody was turning 50 and decided until right now to even bring it up on the show.
84:24Oh, that's a failure on my part. Heath, happy 50th birthday.
84:28I got a couple years. Jamie, Monday is Jamie's 50th birthday.
84:31Holy cow. Happy birthday, dude. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you.
84:35How are you celebrating? How am I celebrating? Doing rankings?
84:38Writing a waiver wire column? Yep. Doing beat the waiver wire with Adam?
84:42Running somebody to somewhere to practice? Driving something? No, I canceled basketball practice.
84:46I actually canceled basketball practice. Wow. I'll write the column for you, Jamie.
84:50What do you think? Let's see. Then you'll lead the column with J.J.
84:54McCarthy and Tyra Tracy and check out my big loose Martha.
84:58I don't even know what that word means, but it can't be good.
85:02Oh, man. All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow, everybody.
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