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Week 6 Winners & Losers: Biggest Takeaways From Every Game! (10/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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1 hr 25 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Oct 19, 2026
Published
Mon, October 19, 2026
103
Player insights
62
Players mentioned
Topics
Aaron RodgersColston LovelandKenneth Walker IIIMarvin Harrison Jr.Nico CollinsC.J. StroudCaleb WilliamsMichael WilsonRome OdunzeA.J. BrownBryce YoungChris RodriguezCorey KinerDeVonta Smith
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A.J. Brown

NegativeProjection0:05

AJ Brown left a lot of fantasy points on the table in Week 6 despite receiving 10 targets; the source notes he shook off rust in one game but had concerning drops, describing his performance as 'gross,' indicating disappointment with his return from injury.

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PositiveValue71:31

In a rest-of-season comparison, the source selects A.J. Brown over Jalen Warren, indicating Brown is the preferred asset going forward.

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Aaron Rodgers

NegativeProjection0:04

Aaron Rodgers had a moderate game in Week 6 that required overtime to reach a decent fantasy day, despite strong target volume for his receivers Jeremy Bernard and D.K. Metcalf.

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NegativeProjection10:55

Aaron Rodgers had a slow start in his game, requiring fantasy managers to wait until the very end of the game for production, making for a frustrating fantasy outing.

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NegativeRole64:14

The source expresses concern about Aaron Rodgers' play, noting he threw 49 passes in this game (up from 38 per game average) due to fear of Tampa Bay's blitz pressure; Rodgers reverted to short, short, short passing patterns and doesn't appear to trust his offensive line, getting knocked around and taking five sacks.

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NegativeProjection65:25

Aaron Rodgers' air yards per pass attempt (ADOT) have collapsed to historically low levels: 4.6 last week and 4.0 this week, well below league-low Bo Nix's 4.9 ADOT. This extreme short-passing approach limits downfield receiver production and suggests either offensive line concerns or fear of Tampa's blitz-heavy defense. Source expects this may improve next week against the Saints but expresses concern about the trend.

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Bijan Robinson

NegativeUsage48:54

Had only 11 touches in Week 6 against Chicago after 21 touches the prior week (15.8 fantasy points); Atlanta had the ball for less than 20 minutes due to two big turnovers on special teams, limiting his volume. Source notes this is the second bad game in a row but maintains Robinson is not a long-term concern.

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Bo Nix

NegativeProjection65:25

Bo Nix holds the NFL's lowest air yards per pass attempt (ADOT) at 4.9, indicating an extremely short-passing offense that limits downfield receiver production. This metric is used as a reference point for how constrained Aaron Rodgers' passing attack has become in recent weeks.

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Bryce Young

PositiveProjection23:10

Bryce Young scored 23.8 fantasy points against Philadelphia in Week 6, finishing top 10 despite a slow start. Young has been a top-seven quarterback in all but one week through the Sunday afternoon slate and is a must-start moving forward, despite being started in less than half of CBS Sports Leagues.

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NegativeProjection23:10

The source was advised to drop Bryce Young this morning. However, Young has an elite statistical pedigree: he is one of only five quarterbacks in the last 15 years to throw for 280+ yards and a touchdown in each of their team's first five games of a season, joining Aaron Rodgers (2011), Drew Brees (2013), Peyton Manning (2013), and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Despite this elite early-season consistency, the source's co-host recommended dropping him.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveProjection9:58

Described as having an awesome shot with strong target share; the source is positive on his outlook despite concerns about Nico Collins.

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PositiveProjection15:11

Had a huge game in Week 6; the source likes him as a must-start quarterback moving forward, particularly against the Giants next week. Despite Nico Collins not being a big factor in the game, Stroud's performance and the team's addition of Marvin Harrison to the offense position him as the obvious focal point.

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PositiveProjection23:43

CJ Stroud scored 29 fantasy points against Jacksonville in London in Week 6, marking three consecutive weeks of at least 22.9 fantasy points, with at least 27 points in two of the last three weeks. The source calls him a must-start quarterback moving forward, as he is the obvious focal point of an offense that added Marvin Harrison, while the team's defense and run game have underperformed since Week 2.

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Caleb Williams

PositiveProjection9:07

Caleb Williams posted a career-high completion rate and 305 passing yards in Week 6 against Atlanta but only 18 fantasy points; source credits three rushing touchdowns by the team and expects touchdowns will come, noting it was a great day despite the modest fantasy output. Source expects one or two rushing touchdowns most games going forward.

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PositiveProjection21:49

Caleb Williams posted a career-high 83.3% completion rate (30 of 36) in Week 6 against Atlanta, dropping back and playing normal quarterback for 75% of the game. The source notes this was very encouraging and questions whether this efficient, pocket-focused approach will continue or was merely a product of his hamstring injury recovery.

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PositiveProjection51:24

If Loveland's near-miss touchdown had been scored, fantasy managers with Caleb Williams should feel great about his upside. Additionally, DeAndre Swift had two short touchdowns, and if one of those had gone Williams' way instead, managers would be thrilled with the quarterback's scoring potential.

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Cam Sims

NegativeRole32:09

Sims is listed as a loser in Week 6, though the source does not provide specific statistics or reasoning for his inclusion in the losers list.

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Carson Steele

NegativeInjury12:06

Carson Steele left the Eagles game in the first quarter with an injury, removing him from fantasy consideration for the week.

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Chase Brown

NegativeBust8:30

Considered for the all-bust team but deemed not as bad as Scadaboo and Hampton; drafted four hours earlier than Scadaboo, suggesting he was a higher-round pick with disappointing results.

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Chris Olave

NegativeRole62:39

The source indicates Olave will continue to be started every Sunday and will be asked about repeatedly, suggesting consistent volume and role as a Saints receiver.

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Chris Rodriguez

NegativeUsage43:56

Rodriguez splits carries roughly evenly with Basil Tootin, which limits Tootin's ceiling as an RB1 despite Tootin's strong receiving production in this particular game.

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NegativeUsage45:54

Rodriguez had eight combined carries across Jacksonville's last two games (against Philly and Cincinnati) while Tootin dominated with 22 and 17 carries respectively. However, in Week 6, Rodriguez was notably better running the football than Tootin and is averaging 4.3 yards per carry for the season compared to Tootin's 4.1 yards per carry, barely edging the lead back in efficiency.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveBreakout0:03

Colston Loveland is highlighted as a tight end winner in Week 6 who bounced back with strong performance; the source notes that if Loveland and Luther Burden continue producing at this level for the Bears, 'everybody's going to be happy,' suggesting sustained upside alongside Burden as the team's primary receiving threats.

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PositiveRole3:32

Colston Loveland was highlighted positively by the source in the context of the Bears' Week 6 win over Atlanta, receiving a 'kudos' callout alongside Caleb Williams' strong performance.

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PositiveRole20:34

Loveland was a primary focus of the Bears passing game in Week 6, with Caleb Williams dropping back and playing normal quarterback for 75% of the game, consistently getting the ball to Loveland and Luther Burden when executing on schedule. Loveland was very good with the opportunities he got, and while not yet a must-start, he is squarely in the starting conversation moving forward.

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PositiveProjection51:18

Loveland should have had a second touchdown in Week 6; if that score had gone his way, fantasy managers with Caleb Williams would feel great about the quarterback's upside. The source notes that touchdowns will come regularly for the Bears offense, with three rushing touchdowns in this game and typically one or two most games.

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Corey Kiner

PositiveRole30:10

Kiner received significant work in Week 6, including the Patriots' most important drive when they were trying to score or kill the clock at the end of the game. The source suspects the Patriots were specifically preparing Kiner to play in place of Trevion Henderson, suggesting he may be gaining a larger role in the offense.

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NegativeRole30:37

Kiner received 11 carries with eight coming on a single late-game drive (less than six minutes remaining in fourth quarter) where he executed well and controlled the clock; he ran effectively behind a makeshift offensive line. The source expresses concern about a potential three-headed backfield but notes Kiner's strong performance on that drive.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveUsage51:39

DeAndre Swift had two short-yardage touchdowns in Week 6, demonstrating his role in the Bears' red zone offense. The source notes that if one of those scoring opportunities had gone to Caleb Williams instead, fantasy managers would still be thrilled with the quarterback's upside.

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Darnell Mooney

NegativeInjury12:23

Darnell Mooney suffered a neck injury during the game.

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Derrick Henry

NegativeMatchup52:30

The source raised concerns about Derrick Henry's schedule, noting he had an easy first five games (Colts, Saints, Cowboys, Titans, Falcons) followed by a harder stretch including the Jaguars and Texans. Henry fumbled in Week 6 against Baltimore, though the source downplayed injury concerns and suggested his outlook improves once Lamar Jackson returns to the Ravens.

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Deshaun Watson

PositiveProjection53:00

Deshaun Watson had a bad game in Week 6 against Baltimore. Despite the poor outing, the source notes that Jerry Judy made impactful catches and Watson appears to trust Judy, suggesting the receiver may be a key target going forward despite Watson's inconsistent track record.

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DeVonta Smith

NegativeProjection41:20

Smith benefited from playing against what the source describes as 'the worst cornerback duo' in his first start of the season. The source expresses concern that the positive fantasy result may have been fortunate rather than indicative of sustainable performance, noting the opposing quarterback (Tanner McKee) played poorly overall.

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PositiveValue67:27

When asked to choose between DeVonta Smith and Jalen Warren for the rest of the season, the source prefers DeVonta Smith, citing that while Warren might be what fantasy managers need, Smith is the better player in a vacuum.

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DK Metcalf

PositiveUsage0:04

D.K. Metcalf received amazing target volume in Week 6 alongside Jeremy Bernard, with the source expressing optimism that this target distribution will continue for the rest of the season.

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PositiveUsage64:14

DK Metcalf recorded 11 catches for 93 yards on 15 targets; Aaron Rodgers stated 'Once we got DK involved, the offense shifted,' suggesting the offense improved when targeting him; the source is optimistic about him going forward despite concerns about Rodgers' short passing tendencies and lack of trust in the offensive line.

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Drake London

NegativeRole49:32

Source notes they are not worried about Drake London's fantasy outlook following the Week 6 Chicago-Atlanta game, though limited context is provided on his specific performance or role.

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Drake Maye

NegativeProjection2:15

Drake May fell just short of the 30+ PPR fantasy point threshold in Week 6, scoring 29 non-decimal points.

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Garrett Wilson

NegativeMatchup70:38

Wilson struggled in Week 6 against New England, posting 4 catches for 44 yards on 6 targets. The source attributes the poor performance to Christian Gonzalez shadowing him throughout the game, limiting his effectiveness.

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George Pickens

PositiveRole9:43

George Pickens has been performing well as a receiver; the source notes he was strong before last week's game.

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NegativeBust9:48

Was performing poorly before last week, suggesting recent improvement; the source notes wide receivers have generally been good this season.

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Hunter Henry

PositiveValue71:15

In a waiver wire priority comparison between Hunter Henry and Demario Douglas, the source picks Henry, citing position scarcity as the deciding factor.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveProjection62:28

Isaiah Likely outscored Trey McBride by four fantasy points this week, establishing him as a top tight end option; the source frames him as part of the best wide receiver-tight end duo in fantasy football.

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Isiah Pacheco

NegativeBust72:02

Isiah Pacheco is part of a three-way backfield split with no clear lead back; the source expresses doubt about whether there is even one good running back on the Chiefs at this point. The source suggests trading him away, though questions what value could be obtained in a trade.

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J.J. McCarthy

PositiveProjection11:24

J.J. McCarthy came off the bench and scored approximately 18 fantasy points in the fourth quarter alone after Jameis Winston was benched, demonstrating strong performance in limited action; however, John Harbaugh noted he is not ready to be the full-time starter yet.

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Jalon Daniels

NegativeProjection65:45

Jalen Daniels of the Bucs has the second-lowest air yards per pass attempt (ADOT) in the NFL at 6.1, indicating a short-passing offensive scheme that limits downfield receiver production.

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Jameis Winston

NegativeDepth Chart11:24

Jameis Winston was benched by the Giants during the game; J.J. McCarthy came in and scored 18 fantasy points in the fourth quarter. John Harbaugh indicated both quarterbacks made plays but McCarthy is not ready yet, suggesting Winston will likely start next week at Houston but faces uncertainty.

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NegativeRole30:24

Winston was benched in Week 6 and is 40% rostered. The source advises against starting him against Houston next week, indicating he is no longer a viable fantasy option.

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Jameson Williams

NegativeBust9:15

Mentioned as a potential bust candidate in the wide receiver discussion, though not definitively placed on the all-bust team.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeBust8:30

Identified as a wide receiver on the all-bust, non-injury team, indicating significant underperformance relative to draft expectations.

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Jaylen Warren

NegativeUsage66:32

Jalen Warren's usage disappointed significantly in Week 6 despite 74% snap share; Rico Dato outperformed him for most of the game, running better than Warren. With Aaron Rodgers throwing 49 times, Warren received only four targets and two catches, reflecting limited involvement in the passing game. The source notes this was a predictable decline once Dato returned from injury, and Warren should have been sold high when he was the clear lead back.

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NegativeProjection68:41

After a poor Week 6 performance (4 targets, 2 catches) with Tanner McKee throwing 49 times, the source expresses skepticism about Warren's consistency, noting McKee won't throw 45+ times weekly once Baker Mayfield returns. However, the source maintains Warren will still be started by most teams and can fetch good trade value despite the down week, not representing his true rest-of-season outlook.

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Jerry Jeudy

PositiveRole53:06

Jerry Judy had a good game in Week 6 against Baltimore, making the most impactful catches for Cleveland. The source suggests Judy is who Deshaun Watson trusts and is making key plays, though notes Judy's poor historical track record. Despite Cleveland's young receiver depth, if Judy continues to earn Watson's trust with performances like this, the team should keep him rather than trade him away.

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Josh Downs

NegativeBust32:20

Downs is a recurring loser despite receiving eight targets; the source attributes poor production to Daniel Jones playing poorly and an ineffective Giants offense. With Tyler Warren out, Downs and Keenan Allen were expected to benefit, but Allen caught eight of 19 combined targets between them, outproducing Downs. The source suggests Downs may be dropped in leagues and expresses uncertainty about when he can be started confidently.

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NegativeProjection44:15

The source contrasts Downs with Basil Tootin, noting that while Downs is a very talented player, he failed to deliver on the opportunities he received in this game, whereas Tootin capitalized on his chances with two touchdown catches.

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Justin Herbert

NegativeBust8:12

Listed as the quarterback on an all-bust, non-injury team, indicating significant underperformance at the position this season.

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NegativeProjection71:46

The source strongly recommends dropping Justin Herbert, noting he is entering his bye week followed by difficult matchups against the Rams and Houston, making him a poor hold in fantasy lineups.

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Kalif Raymond

NegativeRole0:04

Khalif Raymond is positioned as a secondary receiving option for the Bears behind Luther Burden and Colston Loveland, with the source suggesting he will have moments but is not expected to be a primary target going forward.

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Keenan Allen

PositiveUsage33:19

Allen caught eight of 19 combined targets between himself and Josh Downs, outproducing Downs despite expectations that both would benefit from Tyler Warren's absence. Allen is receiving more target volume than Downs in the Giants offense.

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Kenneth Walker III

NegativeUsage0:03

Kenneth Walker is mentioned as a notable running back in the context of non-PPR scoring formats, positioned just behind Malik Neighbors in the discussion.

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PositiveProjection2:15

Kenneth Walker was the top non-PPR scorer in Week 6 among non-quarterbacks, finishing just behind Malik Neighbors in PPR scoring with 30+ points.

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PositiveUsage3:04

Kenneth Walker was the lone bright spot in the Chiefs' uninspired loss to the Chargers; the source notes he played well while the rest of the team showed up as if for a preseason game. However, the source expresses skepticism about Walker maintaining his current pace going forward.

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PositiveProjection72:17

Kenneth Walker became the first player with at least 750 scrimmage yards and 8 touchdowns through the first 5 games of a season since Priest Holmes, highlighting elite early-season production and breakout performance.

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Kirk Cousins

NegativeProjection10:55

Kirk Cousins had a slow fantasy outing, requiring managers to wait until the very end of the game for production; the source led the Sleepers column with Cousins and had him in multiple league stacks, making the late-game finish particularly frustrating.

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Kyle Pitts

PositiveBreakout0:03

Kyle Pitts is identified as a tight end winner in Week 6 who bounced back with improved performance after earlier struggles.

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PositiveUsage20:47

Kyle Pitts has seen his target share increase for four consecutive weeks with Michael Penix: 8.6%, 15%, 17.6%, then 21.2% in Week 6. Pitts played a season-high 72% of offensive snaps in Week 6. While not yet a must-start, he is squarely in the starting conversation moving forward.

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Luther Burden

PositiveBreakout0:04

Luther Burden is identified as a Week 6 winner and honorable mention, with the source predicting he and Colston Loveland will be the two primary receivers for the Bears going forward; the source notes that if this production level continues, 'everybody's going to be happy,' indicating confidence in Burden as a sustained fantasy asset despite competition from Odunze and Khalif Raymond.

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PositiveRole20:34

Luther Burden was a primary focus of the Bears passing game in Week 6, with Caleb Williams consistently targeting him when executing on schedule. The source notes this was very encouraging to see, indicating Burden is a key part of the offense when plays develop normally.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

NegativeBust8:51

Mentioned in the context of wide receiver busts but noted as a sixth-round pick, suggesting lower draft capital and thus less of a bust relative to earlier-round disappointments.

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PositiveRole9:34

In his first game, Harrison Jr. ran only nine routes, significantly fewer than teammate Nico Collins (29 routes). Despite limited route participation, the source expressed encouragement about his performance and outlook, suggesting there is room for increased involvement.

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PositiveRole23:54

Added to the Texans offense; had an encouraging start in Week 6. The source notes he wasn't running downfield all the time but was having a bunch of horizontal routes and didn't play a ton, suggesting a limited but promising early role.

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NegativeRole27:01

Harrison Jr. has missed two games, and in both games without him, Michael Wilson scored under 8 PPR points despite favorable circumstances (Rams lacking shutdown corner Trent McDuffie). The source questions whether Harrison Jr.'s absence is causing coverage to shift toward Wilson, suggesting Harrison Jr.'s presence significantly impacts the Cardinals' passing game distribution.

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Michael Penix Jr.

PositiveProjection49:49

Michael Penix Jr. came alive well into the second half of the Week 6 game against Chicago, helping Atlanta mount a furious fourth-quarter comeback with two touchdowns and two-point conversions. Source notes he was good and that his strong play in the second half helped the Falcons' fantasy output.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeBust26:26

Listed as a loser in Week 6; started in 68% of leagues but produced only 4 catches for 32 yards on 7 targets for the Rams. Faces Denver next week.

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NegativeMatchup27:01

Wilson scored under 8 PPR points in both games without Marvin Harrison Jr., despite the Rams lacking shutdown corner Trent McDuffie. The source questions whether coverage is shifting toward Wilson now that Harrison Jr. is off the field, but expresses skepticism about starting him as a must-start receiver. Upcoming schedule is brutal: Denver (tough), Dallas (favorable), Seattle (nightmare), Rams again, and Chiefs. The source notes the Cardinals' overall tough schedule could make Wilson's fantasy outlook rough for a while.

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NegativeUsage28:54

Wilson was double-teamed 'pretty much the whole game' against Detroit, per his own quote. Offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur confirmed that both Trey McBride and Michael Wilson were double-teamed frequently last week. Wilson acknowledged the difficulty of getting open against two defenders but expressed confidence that Detroit's defensive respect for him as a player will lead to more double teams going forward.

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Najee Harris

PositiveDepth Chart0:06

Najee Harris received the first carries in Week 6 after Cam Scadaboo was benched, though the source notes Harris 'looks like what he's looked like all season,' suggesting he maintained his typical performance level without necessarily indicating a permanent role shift.

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Nico Collins

NegativeProjection9:54

The source expresses concern about Collins moving forward, though not calling him a bust; this suggests downside risk or role uncertainty.

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NegativeUsage9:54

The source expresses concern about Nico Collins' recent performance, noting he has posted a pretty bad target share in two straight games, which is a red flag for his fantasy value despite not being a complete bust.

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NegativeProjection24:07

Did not have a huge game in Week 6 despite CJ Stroud's strong performance; his numbers weren't significant and he wasn't a big factor in Stroud's success. However, the source expects better games ahead for Collins, particularly with the Giants matchup next week.

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NegativeProjection41:10

Three weeks prior to this episode, Collins had over 100 yards and two touchdowns; the source notes this context when comparing him to other receivers but expresses some caution about his consistency, particularly after a game against what was described as a weak cornerback duo.

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Omar Cooper Jr.

NegativeDepth Chart70:55

With Adam Mitchell potentially returning next week for New England, the source warns that this could hurt Omar Cooper Jr.'s waiver wire value and playing time, suggesting managers considering him for pickups should be cautious.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeProjection72:43

Patrick Mahomes threw 30 or fewer pass attempts in four or five games through Week 6, mirroring his early 2024 season pattern when he threw fewer than 30 passes in four of six games before averaging 39.4 passes per game over the final 10 games. The source expects Mahomes to throw more passes in upcoming weeks (Seattle, Denver, Jets, Atlanta) because those teams are better offenses than the Dolphins and Chargers, suggesting more competitive games ahead.

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Quentin Johnston

NegativeBust9:35

Mentioned as a bust candidate, though the source suggests Godwin would be a better example of a wide receiver bust.

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Rashod Bateman

NegativeInjury13:00

Rashad Bateman left the game in the first quarter with an injury.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

NegativeUsage29:36

Stevenson had 14 carries for 36 yards with no catches, averaging 3.6 yards or worse per carry in four of six games. The source suspects the Patriots were preparing Corey Kiner to play in place of Trevion Henderson and gave Kiner their most important drive when trying to score or kill the clock at the end of the game, which is troubling for Stevenson's role. Stevenson only got carries on third or fourth down scoring attempts.

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NegativeRole30:18

Stevenson saw his snap share drop to 50-50 with Corey Kiner after a fumble, down from two-thirds pre-fumble; Kiner received eight of his 11 carries on a single late-game drive. Despite the split, Stevenson dominated third downs (5-of-6) and red zone snaps (3-of-4), and the source still ranks him as a top-two fantasy running back due to high-value touches, though he's expected to average around 14 carries going forward with reduced efficiency due to offensive line injuries.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeBust4:29

Listed as a loser in Week 6; started in 58% of leagues but produced only 3 catches for 39 yards on 4 targets for the Bears at Atlanta. Had a 24-yard catch wiped out by a penalty that would have brought him to almost 10 PPR points. Faces New England next week, followed by Seattle. Through three games, he has received only 10 targets from Caleb Williams, which is not great.

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NegativeUsage23:02

Rome Odunze has received 10 targets from Caleb Williams through three games. In Week 6, Odunze benefited from a 45-yard deep ball on a scramble play, highlighting his big-play potential when Williams extends plays outside the pocket.

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NegativeRole26:56

Odunze received 10 targets from Caleb Williams through three games, which the source characterizes as 'not great.' The source positions him as a bi-week replacement or desperation play at wide receiver in a three-receiver league, not a reliable starter. Upcoming matchups against New England and Seattle are noted as unfavorable.

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Romeo Doubs

NegativeInjury12:20

Romeo Dobbs suffered a shoulder injury during the game; he caught a touchdown before leaving with the injury.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveProjection2:15

Saquon Barkley was one of only two non-quarterback players to score 30+ PPR fantasy points in Week 6 before Sunday night football, demonstrating elite week-to-week ceiling.

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NegativeBust8:12

The source suggests Barkley could be included on an all-bust team, noting he's been bad even in games where he hasn't been injured, indicating performance concerns beyond health.

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Travis Hunter

PositiveMatchup15:27

The source notes that Hunter's games before the bye week are historically strong fantasy performances, particularly in London games where he has scored more fantasy points than in American venues. Last year he had a strong London performance before suffering a practice injury.

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TreVeyon Henderson

NegativeInjury29:56

Henderson was initially expected to miss time with a high ankle sprain but ended up playing in Week 6, which reduced opportunities for Ramondre Stevenson and contributed to Stevenson's poor performance (14 carries for 36 yards).

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NegativeRole30:32

Henderson received only seven carries and fumbled, which triggered a shift in the Patriots backfield snap distribution; the source suggests he was being prepped to sit out in favor of Corey Kiner.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveProjection2:15

Trevor Lawrence was one of only two quarterbacks to score 30+ PPR fantasy points in Week 6, not projected in top 12 but delivered four touchdowns and elite production.

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Trey McBride

NegativeUsage28:54

McBride was double-teamed frequently in Week 6 against Detroit, per offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur's confirmation. This defensive attention suggests the Cardinals' offense is being keyed on McBride as a primary target.

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NegativeProjection62:28

Trey McBride scored four fewer fantasy points than Isaiah Likely this week, placing him behind Likely in the tight end hierarchy.

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Tyrone Tracy

PositiveBreakout0:06

Tyrone Tracy scored two touchdowns in Week 6, with the source noting the team appears to be feeling good about him going forward, suggesting increased role opportunity and upside.

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PositiveRole6:30

Scored two touchdowns in Week 6, positioning him as a lead option in the Giants backfield; the source notes the team should feel good about him moving forward.

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Xavier Worthy

NegativeRole72:22

Xavier Worthy made a couple of nice catches on bad throws from Mahomes in the Chiefs' uninspired loss to the Chargers, but the overall offensive performance was poor and the team appeared to be playing like it was a preseason game.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveProjection53:54

Zay Flowers is currently ahead of Jerry Judy by only 1.7 fantasy points per game in the Ravens-Browns matchup context. The source notes that one the source put Flowers as a first-round pick in a Wednesday show, and expects Flowers to be incredible once Lamar Jackson returns from injury, which should significantly boost his production.

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2:10He's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
2:15Well, in week five, we had 14 players at any position score 30 or more PPR fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues.
2:23Okay, quarterback running, but whatever position, 30 or more fantasy points.
2:26We had 14. That was including Sunday night and Monday night.
2:30How many do we have right now before Sunday night football?
2:33For week six? Yeah, for week six. 14 last week?
2:37Not that. Nowhere near as many as zero. Yeah, zero.
2:40No, no, no. There's at least... I'm going to say two because there's two quarterbacks that I did not have top 12 that ended up being...
2:48Oh yeah, Shuck was one. Shuck was one, and Trevor Lawrence is the other.
2:53And that is it. That is it. Four touchdowns will do that for you.
2:57I don't think Drake May got to 30. He's at 29 non-decimal.
3:01I don't think he got to 30. So yeah, it's two.
3:04It's unbelievable. And the top non-quarterback is... Kenneth Walker.
3:07Yeah. Oh, Malik Neighbors? Malik Neighbors. Malik Neighbors. Kenneth Walker just behind him.
3:11Neighbors with a... I cannot wait to just watch you the rest of the season run for J.J.
3:17McCarthy. It's Walker and non-PPR, is it not? It's Walker and non-PPR.
3:21Who cares about non-PPR? For sure. A lot of people care about it.
3:25Anyway, welcome to the show, everybody. Winners, losers, injuries, not too many of them.
3:29Knock on wood. And a recap of every game.
3:32Tight ends were interesting as Colston Loveland and Kyle Pitts bounce back.
3:36They're back. Yeah, he's going to talk about them as his winners.
3:40The Rams and the Cardinals have the same record.
3:43But let's start with the biggest winner. You know, Jamie, why don't I give this one to you?
3:48Biggest winner for Fantasy Week 6. Oh, the guy we picked up off waivers this week.
3:54Jeremy Bernard. I mean, that was awesome. Sucked that Pat Friar-Muth didn't do much today, but the other two receivers were fantastic.
4:01And despite the fact of a moderate game for Aaron Rodgers, took overtime for him to get, you know, to have a decent day.
4:08But the targets were amazing for both Bernard and Metcalf.
4:11And hopefully that's going to continue for the rest of the season.
4:15And then my other winner, just to wrap it all up since the lovely graphic is up, Luther Burden.
4:21You know, we said there's going to be two receivers for the Bears that do well this week, just based on the Falcons track record.
4:29And it was Burden and Loveland. So Odunze, I'm sure we'll have his moments.
4:34And Khalif Raymond, I'm sure we'll have his moments.
4:36But if you tell me the rest of the season we're getting this from Burden and Loveland, everybody's going to be happy.
4:43Jeremy Bernard, just back to him, 76% rostered, 51% started.
4:47I think that start percentage is going to be 80% or higher next week.
4:51I made one stupid decision. Well, I guess it wasn't stupid.
4:55Oh, yeah, I guess it was. I benched him for AJ Brown.
4:58Go ahead. You benched him for who? AJ Brown.
5:01No. Everybody would have done that. AJ Brown left a lot of fantasy points on the table.
5:07A lot. Who knew a player could shake off that much rust in one game?
5:11I hope he doesn't have any left. It was gross.
5:15Yeah, that was bad. Ten targets, encouraging stuff other than all the drops and stuff.
5:19All right, so biggest winners, Jeremy Bernard and also an honorable mention to Luther Burden.
5:24Heath, let's go to Heath. Who's the biggest loser this week?
5:28Oh, why would I get the biggest loser? I don't know.
5:31I got it if you don't. Dave, I feel like you're in the loser.
5:36Well, no. No, I've got it. I put it on the list.
5:39Cam Scadaboo. Yes. We got the heads up this morning.
5:43It was funny. At like 12.53, I told my son.
5:46Can you get that heads up? At 12.53, I said, sounds like Najee Harris is starting over Cam Scadaboo today.
5:52And he starts freaking out and going through his phone.
5:55He's like, Damian Pierce or Tyler Adjier? I said, Damian Pierce.
5:59And so he dropped Kyle Pitts to pick up Damian Pierce to start over Cam Scadaboo.
6:04Well, that worked at least. I mean, Pierce. Yes.
6:07Yeah. It worked. No, just like when I heard that he was going to be benched, I thought it was going to be benched.
6:14And yeah, Najee Harris gets the first few carries.
6:17He looks like what he's looked like all season.
6:20And he did. And then we'll see Cam Scadaboo worked back in.
6:24He did play a little bit. I saw him blocking as a fullback on one play, I believe.
6:30Just a disastrous result. And Tyrone Tracy scored two touchdowns.
6:33So they've got to be feeling okay about him right now.
6:36Did you hear Carbaugh's explanation after the game? He wasn't benched.
6:40Yeah, it was ridiculous. And even Scadaboo said, I knew I was going to play less.
6:45I didn't think I'd get zero touches. He said, but it's my fault.
6:49You know, he said, I'm getting punished and I deserve it basically.
6:53But I think the question is, right, you got Houston next week.
6:57Great run defense. And then you've got a bye.
6:59Is it even worth keeping Cam Scadaboo at this point?
7:03So ask the question. Dave does this a lot.
7:05You see Cam Scadaboo on waivers. You're going to go pick him up.
7:10I'm sure everybody's going to say yes. And just to see what happens.
7:14I think the way it works, at least in most of my leagues, is there's like three teams next week that are going to have no choice.
7:22They have to drop Cam Scadaboo and they can't pick him up if they see him on waivers.
7:28And there's probably three teams that are going to be putting in bids for Cam Scadaboo because they have the roster depth at this point.
7:36I had a lot of teams this week where my bench literally had zero projected points.
7:41It's between injuries and bids. Yep. And so if you're in that situation and you got Cam Scadaboo, you're going to have to make a move.
7:49Some Nash wave says Cam Scadaboo out Omari and Hampton to Omari and Hampton.
7:54So what's the all-bust non-injury team right now? I think you got Hampton and Scadaboo.
7:59Hampton. Sure. I mean, look, you could argue Barkley even.
8:02That's it. Yeah, but he hasn't. No, but I mean, he's been bad even when he hasn't.
8:07I'm just saying, throw it in. Yeah, we'll put the.
8:10We can't find a full team of players that haven't been hurt, Jamie.
8:14If you sucked and you're injured, that's a different team.
8:18Herbert at quarterback. Scadaboo, Hampton. So Herbert, Scadaboo, Hampton.
8:20Jalen Waddle. Chase Brown is definitely on this. Yeah, he's not as bad as the Bubs.
8:26He's not worse than those two. No, but he was drafted four hours earlier than Scadaboo.
8:31We can put Scadaboo in the flex. Who are the wide receivers, though?
8:35Waddle for sure. Yeah, he's got to be there.
8:38The wide receivers have been pretty good, huh? I guess Marvin Harrison.
8:41No, he was like a six-round pick. Man, it has been a good year for those wide receivers.
8:47My goodness. No, there's got to be one. Ibuka has basically been a bust.
8:52No, last two weeks he's been okay. Last two weeks, yeah.
8:55He's going to come back to us. That's how far you got to go because I can't say McConkie.
9:01He plays one quarter every game. Yeah. Yeah. Burden?
9:04It was basically both Burden and Odunze were busts?
9:07No, I don't think Burden. Jamison Williams, maybe? I mean, Odunze doesn't have a touchdown yet this year, and he has one game with more than 10.
9:15But Odunze wasn't drafted that much. Right. I'm just trying to fill roster spots on our all-bust team.
9:21I'm looking at the CBS ADP and Odunze and Burden were back-to-back.
9:25Burden. Did you say Quentin Johnston? I mean, if you're going to go that, I would go Godwin over Johnston.
9:31Right. We were taking – somebody was taking Godwin.
9:34Ryan Thomas Jr. Yeah. No. I'm telling you, the wide receiver has been awesome.
9:39Yeah. All right. Well, that's a topic for another show, but that's a good question.
9:43I mean, you can argue like George Pickens has been – he was before last week.
9:48Mm-hmm. Yeah, they've all been pretty good. A little worried about Nico Collins right now, though.
9:54Not that he's a bust, but a little worried about – Dude, CJ's shot's awesome.
9:58Target share. Yes, he is. Two straight games with a pretty bad target share for Nico.
10:03But anyway, our biggest winner, Jeremy Bernard, our biggest loser, Cam Scadaboo.
10:07FFT Dynasty, Heath, what's on the radar with FFT Dynasty?
10:10You know, it's trying to be a little bit more patient with all of these wild happenings in the NFL.
10:17Last week, we talked about some guys and kind of like whether they're just busts or they're by-lows.
10:22We've got a little bit of rookie talk coming up.
10:26We broke into the 2027 class just a little bit last week.
10:29The wider view. Okay. Good stuff. Also, Dylan says we need the blah from a few years ago from Heath.
10:36I don't know which one it is. I'm just going to play this.
10:40I hope it's this one. Blah. Yeah. There it is.
10:43Awesome. Thank you. It was – you know, Jeremy Bernard covers a lot of blah.
10:48Pretty good stuff for Jeremy Bernard. Now, overtime certainly helped the Steelers, but Bernard was having a very good game before that.
10:55He caught his touchdown in overtime, though. Rodgers, though, if you started Rodgers, if you started Cousins, my goodness.
11:01You had to wait until the very end of those games.
11:04Dude, I started Cousins with like seven leagues. I led the Sleepers column with Cousins and Tucker.
11:10And then I put DFS Linus in there, and one of the stacks I had was Cousins and Tucker.
11:16And it was like, this is brutal. I'm like, oh, this is pretty cool.
11:20Nice. All right. News and notes. So, the Giants benched Jameis Winston.
11:24JJ McCarthy came in and scored something like 18 fantasy points in the fourth quarter.
11:29And did they say anything about it after the game?
11:32They must have. I'm sure nobody said anything in the New York media about the quarterback.
11:37I know, but I haven't seen anything. What did he say?
11:41I even read the recap. I didn't see anything in the recap.
11:44I'm sure there's something. Right. But isn't it weird that we don't know what it is?
11:50Anyway, find it. Philadelphia running back. I guess it's Jameis is starting next week.
11:54You're not starting either one of them. No, I think Jameis probably starts next week at Houston.
11:59If he struggles, you go into your bye. You switch to McCarthy.
12:03It kind of seems like the writing's on the wall.
12:06Really no running back injuries except Carson Steele for the Eagles left in the first quarter.
12:11And maybe that gave Damian Pierce more opportunities to catch passes because he caught four of them, I believe.
12:18He did. Lad McConkie, concussion. Romeo Dobbs, shoulder injury.
12:20Caught a touchdown and left with a shoulder injury.
12:23Darnell Mooney, neck. Don't know what happened to Devontae Adams.
12:26He left at the very end of the game.
12:29I think it was a knee, but I don't know for sure.
12:33Here is John Harbaugh on who his starting quarterback is next week.
12:37I can't answer that right now. It's not up for conversation right now.
12:41Those things will be decided not 10 minutes after the game.
12:45This is from Pat Leonard who covers the team.
12:47He says, Harbaugh says he has no problem with Jameis Winston and both QBs made plays.
12:52J.J. McCarthy played a heck of a game, but he's not there yet.
12:57Okay. Rashad Bateman left in the first quarter. And Dave, did Dontavian Wicks come back?
13:01Don't know. Okay. I'm not sure if he came back.
13:05He got hurt late in the game. I'll let you know.
13:08Give me 30 seconds. Looks like a non-contact knee for Devontae.
13:12Sweet. I was just doing a little looking on that.
13:15Great stuff. Okay. I don't see any tight end news.
13:18Offensive line. Well, you know, the big one, we'll just talk about the Patriots right now.
13:23They lost three offensive linemen in this game. Is there anything that matters, Heath, when it comes to Drake May?
13:29You know, A.J. Brown drops all these balls and three offensive linemen go down and Romeo Dobbs gets hurt in the first
13:36quarter and he throws up 29 more fantasy points.
13:39Yeah. I think he's just a number one quarterback until he has a couple games where he's not.
13:45But he's playing very good football right now. And A.J.
13:48Brown's probably going to start catching the ball again.
13:51Yeah. But that is, I mean, losing three starters in one game.
13:55And I don't know how long-term the injuries could, they could be back next week for all I know.
14:01But he actually said, Mason said after the game, I don't know if he's talking about all of them, but he said, those guys are playing hurt.
14:09So, not a great situation for the Patriots. Big defensive stuff.
14:13We had two defensive linemen for the, or an edge rusher and a defensive tackle for the Eagles leave with injuries.
14:20Giants secondary is a little beat up right now.
14:22Atlanta had a lot of injuries. They get San Francisco next week.
14:26Sauce Gardner left with a calf injury. He will not be shutting down.
14:30If he doesn't play next week, he won't be shutting down Justin Jefferson.
14:34And that's it for the news and notes. Not a lot today, thank goodness.
14:39Jamie, early look at the waiver wire. Omar, any names come to mind?
14:43Omar Cooper Jr. Obviously, great game by him. Should have had another touchdown that was negated by a silly Tim Patrick penalty.
14:50Trying to think. I had a few names in mind.
14:53I didn't write it down, though. Michael Mayer. Huge game for him.
14:57Two of the last three have been huge for him.
15:00Yeah, he's, look, the Bills did a great job taking away.
15:04Bowers. Brock Bowers. Taking away Brock Bowers. And Mayer did a hell of a job.
15:08It's just a good underneath option for Kirk Cousins.
15:11Is CJ Stroud still available? Obviously, you're picking him up.
15:15Looking ahead, Kyler Murray should absolutely be picked up with his matchup coming up against the Colts.
15:20How about Demario Douglas? Two big games in a row for him.
15:24So, with Dobbs being injured, that's a good call.
15:27What about Hunter Henry? Three straight good games for him.
15:30Touchdown in two straight games. Every game that Drake May has been awesome in, Henry's had not a ton of targets, but he's had some impactful plays.
15:38Deeper leagues, Tommy Tremble. This is now the Lions game.
15:42He was getting off to a good start and then got hurt and then comes back this game and scores two touchdowns.
15:49So, that's just more of a deep league option.
15:51Yes, I do apologize to the person who asked the Tommy Tremble starter sit question this morning.
15:57And I was like, Tommy Tremble? And he goes four catches, 46 yards, two touchdowns on four targets.
16:03I think he's the number one tight end this week.
16:06Probably with two scores. Maybe Pitts. Well, Pitts had two scores too.
16:09Yeah, Pitts was better. All right. That's an early look at the waiver wire.
16:14We've got a lot more for you on that tomorrow.
16:17We're going to take a quick break. Come back with some more winners and losers for you on Fantasy Football Today.
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19:23I do want to get into the winners now, but saw this comment in the chat.
19:28I haven't said this in a while, so Frank wants to know who was the fool you this week.
19:34Who was this week's fool you? Fooled Moose. I wonder, though, how much the calf injury was a problem for him.
19:41You know, we popped up on Ninja Report Saturday.
19:44It's fair. Yeah, so I was looking. Winston. Who?
19:47Jameis? Jameis. Winston's always good for a fool you game every year.
19:51Yeah. What was I going to say? A Friar Moose.
19:54This is going to change tomorrow. It won't be this, but it says he ran 75% of the routes, which means he
20:01probably ran a lot of the routes. It may not be exactly that, but I thought maybe he just didn't play that
20:08much because Washington got some targets, whatever. But no, he was on the field.
20:12Just got three targets. He's got a fool. I think Algier in the sense that I didn't expect Bam Knight to have as many carries as Tyler Algier.
20:21Josh Downs without Tyler Warren. Yep. That's a good one.
20:24All right. Well, that's some of the negative stuff.
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20:46Join.whoop.com slash FFT. All right. So Jamie gave his winners.
20:49Heath, let's go to yours. There are a couple of tight ends who faced off against each other.
20:55Neither were started in even half of CBS Leagues.
20:57Loveland is 46% started. Pitts, 38% started. Pitts is 74% rostered.
21:01What are you seeing from these guys? First off, as far as Loveland goes, and it applies to Luther Burden as well, Caleb Williams, kudos.
21:09Like, just dropping back and playing normal quarterback for 75% of the game.
21:13So many times he got back to the last step of his drop.
21:17And just the ball came out to the guy who he was supposed to go to.
21:22And guess what? A lot of times that was Colson Loveland and Luther Burden.
21:27And so it was just very encouraging to see that they are primary focuses of the passing game when we're doing things on schedule.
21:34And hopefully that wasn't just Caleb Williams trying to avoid running too much because he's coming off the hamstring injury.
21:41And he's going to play quarterback like that a little bit more.
21:44Loveland was very good with the opportunities he got.
21:47Same for Kyle Pitts, who has seen his target share go up now four weeks in a row.
21:53First game with Michael Penix, it was 8.6, then 15, then 17.6, then 21.2.
21:57A season high 72% of the offensive snaps from Pitts.
22:01I don't think we can rank either of these guys as must-start options in their next game, but they are right squarely in the starting conversation.
22:09You know what we are? We're halfway to Pitts getting six touchdowns, too.
22:13Yes. About that. By the way, career-high completion rate for Caleb Williams today, 30 of 36.
22:1883.3% completion rate. Really impressive. I do wonder about why he didn't run.
22:22Was it because he just didn't want to, wasn't there today, or because he's not going to?
22:28He was moving around pretty good. Yeah. I don't know if he was necessarily moving around like he did in week one,
22:35but the Falcons had a hard time getting their hands on him until really late in the first half or into the second half.
22:42And honestly, nobody except for the Caleb Williams fantasy manager wants him to move around like he did in week one.
22:49It's true. That includes Ben Johnson. Maybe Rodunze does.
22:52Seriously. I don't think that would help him in week one.
22:55It did help him in week one because Caleb scrambled and threw a 45-yard deep ball to Rodunze on a jump.
23:02That's great. One of 10 targets he's gotten from Caleb Williams through three games or so.
23:07All right. So how about we go to Dave's winners?
23:10And they are a couple of quarterbacks. Bryce Young, 23.8 fantasy points at Philadelphia.
23:15CJ Stroud, 29 fantasy points in London, technically at the Jaguars.
23:18Young's been a top seven quarterback in all but one week through the Sunday afternoon slate.
23:23So he's a must start. I can't believe he wasn't even started in half of CBS Sports Leagues.
23:29He overcame a slow start against Philly. That defense is really hanging in there.
23:33You got to tip your cap to them, but you got good enough numbers to finish top 10 this week.
23:40And as for Stroud, this is three weeks in a row now.
23:44At least 22.9 fantasy points. At least 27 in two of the three.
23:48A dare I say that he's a must start quarterback moving forward on a team whose defense is letting us down.
23:54Run game has really been letting us down since week two.
23:58He is the obvious focal point of the offense that they just added Marvin Harrison to.
24:03Actually kind of like the role that they had for Marvin Harrison.
24:07He wasn't running downfield all the time. He was having a bunch of horizontal routes.
24:12Didn't play a ton. But an encouraging start for Marvin Harrison.
24:15It should be better games ahead, obviously, for Nico Collins.
24:18But think about it. CJ Stroud had a huge game.
24:21And Nico didn't have that huge. His numbers weren't huge.
24:25He wasn't a big factor for CJ Stroud to have a big game.
24:29So got the Giants next week. Can't help but like Stroud in that game.
24:33I like both these guys as must start quarterbacks.
24:36I'm just going to say a comment with no context provided and no follow-ups allowed.
24:41Okay. And then we'll move on. Heath told me to drop Bryce Young this morning.
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25:15I saw this stat from PFF or this note from PFF on Bryce Young.
25:20Can you name the quarterbacks to throw for 280 yards and a touchdown in each of their team's first five games of
25:27a season over the last 15 years? Oh, my.
25:30Mahomes? Yeah, I'll get right on that. Bryce Young.
25:33Young, yes. 280 and one touchdown? Tom Brady. 280 and one in each of their team's first five games in the last 15 years.
25:40Bryce Young has won. You have three others. Mahomes is not one of them.
25:45Tom Brady. Not Tom Brady. Not Aaron Rodgers. He stinks.
25:48Aaron Rodgers is one. Damn. Yeah, it's been the last 15 years.
25:52I don't know. The answer is no, we cannot.
25:54Yeah. We got Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers in 2011. Drew Brees in 2013.
25:58Peyton Manning in 2013. Oh, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Bryce Young in 2026.
26:02Remember when Fitzpatrick had like three straight 400-yard games?
26:05Yeah, that's not five. And I encourage you to go watch Ryan Fitzpatrick's quote-unquote conversation with Aqib Dali.
26:10It was very funny. Oh, okay. By the way, I was rostering three quarterbacks and he told me to drop Bryce Young.
26:17Who were the other two? Jordan Love, who I'm starting tonight, and Mar Jackson.
26:22I dropped Jackson. Dropped Jackson? I think you should drop all three.
26:26All right, let's go to the losers. The other two are playing better.
26:30I know. And I couldn't trade them, you know?
26:33It's like no one needed them. No one needs a quarterback in a 1QB league.
26:37All right, Michael Wilson and Romo Dunze are Dave's losers.
26:41Michael Wilson started in 68% of leagues. Four catches for 32 yards on seven targets at the Rams.
26:46Gets Denver next week. Romo Dunze started in 58% of leagues.
26:50Three catches, 39 targets, 39 yards on four targets at Atlanta.
26:53I don't think he has 39 targets all year.
26:56And he gets New England next week. Dave, Wilson and Odunze.
27:00It's not just New England next week for Odunze.
27:02Seattle's after that. He had a 24-yard catch wiped out by a penalty.
27:07That would have brought him to almost 10 PPR points.
27:10We already talked about 10 targets from Caleb Williams through three games.
27:14Not great. Odunze is someone who's like a bi-week replacement at wide receiver.
27:18Maybe a desperation play at wide receiver in a three-receiver league.
27:21Wilson, there's been two games now without Marvin Harrison Jr.
27:24in Arizona, and he's been under eight PPR points in each of the two.
27:29And the Rams were a tough matchup to begin with.
27:32But not having Trent McDuffie, that's their best shutdown corner.
27:35You would think that there would be more opportunities than seven targets for Michael Wilson.
27:40You would think that he would do better than sub eight PPR points.
27:44It has to be asked if his coverage is changing now that Marvin Harrison Jr.
27:49isn't on the field. Could that have done anything that tilted the safeties a little bit closer to him?
27:55It's something that we can look into, but it's not – I don't know if there's going to be an answer that
28:02comes out that makes me go, oh yeah, and I'm cool to start Michael Wilson and have him in my lineup as a must-start receiver.
28:10I don't know if we can do that. He's got Denver next week.
28:14That's going to be a tough matchup. And then after that, it's Dallas.
28:18You're probably going to start him then and feel really good about that.
28:22And then Seattle after that is going to be a nightmare.
28:26Then he sees the Rams again. Chiefs after that.
28:29We've already talked about how tough this Cardinals schedule is.
28:32It could be rough out there for Michael Wilson for a while.
28:36Adam, who has more fantasy points? Roma Dunze for the season.
28:39Roma Dunze or Jeremy Bernard? Oh man. Oh, Dunze.
28:42Jeremy Bernard has 1.9 more fantasy points than Roma Dunze this season.
28:46That's incredible. I didn't see this quote, Dave, until just now when I Googled it because I had seen something on Twitter about Mike LaFleur.
28:54Mike LaFleur. Mike. Saying that both Trey McBride and Michael Wilson were double teamed a lot last week.
28:59And so I just found this quote from Michael Wilson from a week ago or earlier this week or whatever.
29:06That was probably the first time in my career where I got double teamed pretty much the whole game.
29:12Definitely not fun because it's pretty hard to get open when you're trying to win against two guys.
29:18But that tells me that Detroit thought highly of me as a player and I'm sure we'll probably see that more going forward.
29:25Okay. That's pretty significant stuff. Maybe they should have given Marvin Harrison a few more targets.
29:30Maybe. Jamie, your losers are Ramondre Stevenson who had 14 carries for 36 yards, did not have a catch.
29:36And he's averaged 3.6 yards or worse per carry in four of six games.
29:40And Jameis Winston who got benched and is 40% rostered.
29:44Yeah, obviously Jameis we covered. I will see what happens next week, but you can't start him against Houston.
29:50Ramondre was, you know, look, we had very high expectations at the start of the week when we thought Trevion Henderson was
29:57going to have a high ankle sprain and not play.
30:00Then Henderson plays. And on top of that, my guess is, and I hope it's not something moving forward, but my guess
30:07is that they were prepping Corey Kiner to play in place of Trevion Henderson.
30:11He was going to get some work. They gave Kiner their most important drive when they were trying to score at the
30:18end or kill the clock at the end. And that was troubling.
30:22Now, Stevenson got in when they tried to score.
30:25I think it was third down or fourth down.
30:28The last carry of the game. But it was just troubling to see Kiner.
30:32And Kiner actually ran well. So I hope we don't have a three-headed backfield moving forward.
30:37But this was a huge letdown for Ramondre Stevenson, who had been building some nice momentum.
30:42And then again, we thought he was going to have a huge game this week.
30:47Yeah. So Kiner had 11 carries. Stevenson had 14.
30:50And Trevion had seven. And then he fumbled. And Kiner had eight of his 11 carries on that one drive, which started
30:57with less than six minutes left in the fourth quarter.
31:00And you're right. He had a great drive. And he really milked that clock and put away the jets.
31:06Behind a makeshift offensive line, too. Right. That's part of the problem.
31:10And I got the word incorrectly, too. What do you mean?
31:14Good job, Jamie. Oh, crap. Wait, what'd you say?
31:16You got what incorrectly? I got the word incorrectly when I said make SH something wrong last week.
31:22All right. Heath. Hold on. Wait. Do you want the snap breakdown for the Patriots running backs now or when we talk about them later?
31:30Go ahead. Before the Travion fumble, it was two-thirds in favor of Ramondre.
31:34And he dominated third downs and snaps inside the 10.
31:37After the fumble, 50-50 split between Ramondre and Kiner.
31:40But Ramondre smashed on third downs, five of six there, three of four inside the 10.
31:45I don't know if I'm panicking over this news in New England.
31:49I think that Ramondre Stevenson is still going to be the running back that we want to use.
31:55I think we'll still rank him as a number two fantasy running back because of all the high-value touches that he gets.
32:02So I don't know. He's going to share the rushing downs with somebody.
32:06It's clear that that's going to be the case.
32:09Whether it's Travion or whether it's Kiner, he's probably going to be in the neighborhood for around 14 carries like he had today.
32:16Just really crappy efficiency in part because they lost so many linemen.
32:20I just want everyone to know that in my head, every time I see Corey, every time in my head, I call him Corey Kiner-Falefa.
32:28For you baseball fans out there. Okay. And Heath, your losers were Cam Scadaboo.
32:32And the permanent fixture in the losers list, Josh Downs.
32:36This is one that's just so disgusting. And maybe a lot of it is Daniel Jones, who's playing awful football.
32:42But also, I'm kind of getting a little bit of Deontay Johnson vibes from where all of the data and the film
32:49guys say how good this guy is. And maybe it should result in better production at some point.
32:55I would assume Josh Downs is going to be dropped in a few leagues.
32:59They're playing Jacksonville and then Dallas and Miami. So, I'll probably try to hold on to him.
33:04But I don't know when you can feel good about starting him.
33:08At least he had eight targets. I mean, I don't know.
33:12I can't put a silver lining on this. He's been terrible now.
33:16Three weeks ago, I talked about him as a loser.
33:19And it was the exact same kind of tenor as Heath was, which is Daniel Jones is awful.
33:24This offense isn't great. And then you'd think, OK, Tyler Warren's not going to play.
33:29It's going to be great for Downs. It's going to be great for Keenan Allen.
33:34They'll get all the targets. Well, they got 19 combined.
33:37Keenan Allen just caught eight of his. And he had more than Josh Downs.
33:42So, Keenan Allen's the thief. Right? Isn't that what you called him, Heath?
33:46Yeah. This was Josh Downs' best game in October.
33:49Yeah. That's terrible. More catches for 40 yards. Keenan Allen, by the way, just passed what?
33:54He passed Terrell Owens on the all-time catch list.
33:57Pretty insane. Hall of Fame, Keenan Allen? No. No.
33:59Hall of Very Good. He passed T.O. He passed T.O.
34:03And Anquan Bolden. They're Hall of Fame. Hall of Very Good.
34:06If Anquan's not in, he should not be in.
34:09Is Anquan not in? No. He is not in.
34:12OK. Yeah. Fair enough then. I need another loser.
34:15Another Hall of Very Good today, by the way, with another milestone.
34:18Alvin Kamara. Yeah. Yeah. Great tackling, Giants. I think Brees Hall, to me, is a loser.
34:24I think, I really feel like Braylon Allen is going to have a bigger role than he did in those first, what, three games?
34:31Three and a half, whenever it was. Two. No.
34:34It was at least three. Week, were we in week six?
34:38Oh, you're right. Three. Week four was the Braylon Allen all-touch game against the Browns?
34:42Hopefully it's a different role and not a bit.
34:45It might be a little bigger role, but I can't imagine they're going to go back to using him on passing downs
34:52and having Reese do 90% of the rushing. Hopefully they've just flipped that up a little bit because Hall is one of
34:59the best pass-catching running backs in the NFL. You never know.
35:03They do a lot of stupid things. I feel like he has some good runs, but he also, like, he's a little choppy.
35:10Like, he's got a bunch of runs that go nowhere also.
35:13Doesn't everyone, but... Allen? Sort of. Yeah, Allen. He looked great today.
35:17I think, yeah. No, he had some amazing runs today.
35:20Last week, too. Some of his runs are great, and then some of them just go absolutely nowhere.
35:26And yes, you could say that about a lot of running backs.
35:30I think they'd have more consistency with Brees. Certainly think Brees will be the lead back there.
35:35And if Brees ends up playing like Brees should end up playing, then you're not going to see a lot of Braylon Allen.
35:43He'll be, like, on the field a third of the time.
35:46Might have eight touches. I'm not... I wouldn't expect a 50-50 split for very long once Brees comes back.
35:52I don't know if that's what you were saying.
35:55I do not expect a 50-50 split at all.
35:58Right. I don't know what you're expecting, but... I'm expecting him to be annoying.
36:02You liked what you saw from him. I'm expecting him to be annoying for fantasy.
36:07Like, maybe a... Is he the goal line guy?
36:10Could be. And by the way, he's averaging... That would be annoying.
36:14He's averaging 4.2 yards per carry, and Brees Hall's averaging 3.2 yards per carry this year.
36:19So, Brees Hall hasn't run the ball well. All right.
36:22Moving on to the games. All right. Let's get to the games.
36:26And Houston-Jacksonville. This was a fun one. Actually, wait.
36:29I forgot about the goal line work and the...
36:32I'm sorry for the... No, I know the graphics.
36:34I don't know. We'll come... Goal line work, almost touchdowns.
36:38All right. It's the same thing in Jacksonville. Both guys get used near the goal line.
36:43Kendry Miller was the clear goal line back today, although they had a kind of a...
36:48I wouldn't call it a trick play, a misdirection play where C.J.
36:52Donaldson got a goal line carry and had a touchdown overturned.
36:55But Kendry Miller was also in the backfield on that play.
36:59Audrick Estime had a goal line touchdown for Cleveland.
37:01So, Jaleel McLaughlin, I'm assuming he played a lot more than Estime.
37:05Estime had the touchdown. We saw both Steelers running backs used near the goal line.
37:10So, I imagine it'll be kind of like that going forward, but we'll see.
37:15And that's about it I got there. For almost touchdowns, A.J.
37:18Brown had an almost big day, but he had a ball in his hands in the end zone.
37:24That was a tough catch. Let's see. Puka Nakua.
37:27Puka Nakua was wide open. I mean, that could have made his day and Stafford's day right there.
37:32Stafford got hit as he threw. That was... I don't even know.
37:3660-something yard touchdown? Puka wide open. Roshan Johnson, if you started him at the very end of the game, he slid down
37:43at about the two-yard line instead of scoring. Colson Loveland should have had a second touchdown.
37:48I thought that was on Caleb. Caleb should have thrown the ball earlier.
37:52Tom Brady thought Colson Loveland didn't run his route that well.
37:56Oh, Josh Downs did come up a yard short of a rushing touchdown.
38:00So, there's that. Brock Bowers drew a pass interference penalty in the end zone.
38:04Although, I'm writing that, but I don't even remember that.
38:08Yeah, then Gentty scored. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basial Tudin for the second time this year.
38:12Not for the second time this year, he had a touchdown call back because that's happened at least three times.
38:19That's happened twice in one game. Yeah, so I think that's four times.
38:23But for the second time this year, he had a call back on what I think was a pretty dubious, if not bad, call.
38:30I thought there was one angle of that that showed it was pretty clearly a hold.
38:36Really? Okay. I think so. He had a fistful of jersey.
38:39Was there a worse holding call than Miami Forest State?
38:42No. No. A holding penalty. Yeah. Dalton Kinkade had a touchdown call back on a hold.
38:47Dalton Kinkade was back in his hometown this week.
38:50I didn't realize that. I think they were trying to get him going because he had a lot of targets.
38:57And Jamie mentioned Omar Cooper Jr. had a touchdown call back on pass interference on his teammate, Tim Patrick.
39:03Okay. McCarthy had neighbors wide open, too, on the likely pass.
39:06On the last play of the game? Yeah. Oh, no kidding.
39:10I didn't know that. Great. Now I feel better.
39:12I don't know wide open, but he was open.
39:15Well, he was under pressure. Yeah. Houston 34. Jacksonville 31.
39:18I was going to play a joke on the producers and be like, actually, but we'll leave this graphic up.
39:25Yeah. This was a great game for fantasy, and the quarterbacks played well.
39:29And do you think, Dave, that Woody Marks has forward momentum going?
39:33He didn't have a great game. He had 15 carries for 56 yards, two catches for 25 yards.
39:38Do you think he did enough to be a must-start against the Giants next week?
39:43Yes. And for now, he's still the lead back for Houston.
39:47We'll see if David Montgomery's healthy. One of my guilty pleasures is Jowar Jordan.
39:51I liked him when he played in college, and he had the touchdown run today.
39:56Did a good job just reading the blocking and cutting back.
39:59I don't think Jordan is going to make big inroads on Woody Marks' turf here either.
40:05So Woody Marks played 78% of the snaps, had every third down snap, every snap inside the five.
40:10I think he can be better than this next week against the G-Men.
40:14Is Nico Collins a buy low or a get what you can candidate?
40:18Asks. It's a good question. Eric! There he is.
40:21He asks if Nico's a buy low or get what you can.
40:25I don't think he's either. I mean, if you can buy low, sure.
40:29Go for it. So maybe he is that. But I don't think a lot of people are interested in selling Nico right now.
40:37But you see where he's coming from. I mean, first game with Marvin Harrison Jr., we have – what was the target share for Nico Collins?
40:45He had five of 34. Yeah. That's bad. Pretty low target share on 34 pass attempts.
40:50Well, Dalton Schultz led the way with six. And last week, he didn't have a very good game either, Nico Collins.
40:57So I think he did draw two pass interference penalties.
41:00One of them was in the end zone. I don't think it was a good call.
41:05But he did draw two penalties. And those don't count as targets, by the way.
41:10So I guess there's that silver lining. But what do you – okay, he was a pick right around the 2-3 turn during draft season.
41:18Where would you take Nico right now? Right there.
41:20Yeah. Why don't you – let's rank Nico, Zay, and Devontae Smith rest of the season.
41:26Zay, Nico, Devontae. Yeah. Tempted to put Zay ahead of Nico.
41:29But that doesn't mean that Nico's bad. I mean, three weeks ago, he had, what, over 100 yards and two touchdowns?
41:36I think I might take Devontae too. Over Nico?
41:39Just took advantage of what might be the worst cornerback duo.
41:42Yeah. I can't do that. I read the AP recap of that Eagles game.
41:47We'll get to that in a minute. And it was so negative because I barely saw Tanner McKee.
41:52But it was like – it made me think that he played like absolute garbage.
41:57And I'm going to watch the tape tomorrow and all that.
42:00We'll probably talk about it on Beyond the Box score.
42:04But we might have gotten pretty lucky with Devontae Smith.
42:07But then again, it was, you know, his first start this year.
42:11I thought until that drive where he threw the touchdown, Devontae Smith, I thought he was the worst starting quarterback that played today.
42:18Like worse than Jalen Daniels. Worse than – Did you watch Jameis?
42:22Yeah, right. Jameis was really bad today. Snoop. Jameis was terrible.
42:25How do we feel – a question from the chat.
42:28How do we feel about Marvin Harrison Jr. after his first game?
42:32Encouraged. Yeah. Encouraged. Yep. Okay. How many routes did he run, Dave?
42:36Do you know? I can look. Yeah. I still have the Dontavian Wicks numbers waiting for you.
42:41Oh. And – We'll get to that with the Philly game.
42:45I know we're not supposed to talk about it, but I'm just going to say it so maybe it happens.
42:51Stop running the ball, Green Bay. Just stop. Just throw every play.
42:55So last thing on this game is – I mentioned that Jacoby Myers – I hope this is a sign of things
43:02to come because he had a target share like over 20 percent, five or six years in a row.
43:08And he just had not been targeted at all.
43:11He finally got it going today. I don't think it's going to be consistent, but I do feel like there's better times ahead.
43:18They just need to play Travis Heiner every snap all the time.
43:22Well, that could happen too. It's a big discussion.
43:25It's a big discussion. What are they going to do with him?
43:29Yep. Marvin Harrison Jr. nine routes. Nico 29. Nico 29?
43:32Nico 29 routes. Marvin Harrison Jr. nine routes. Oh, Marvin Harrison Jr.
43:36I'm sorry. My mind was on Travis Hunter there.
43:39Okay. Travis Hunter. By the way, just keep this in mind for 2027.
43:43Travis Hunter's games before the bye are epic. In London.
43:46Well, yeah. I think he has scored more fantasy points in London than he has in America.
43:51Yeah. Well, last year was the one he went nuts, and then he got hurt.
43:56He got hurt in practice. Yeah. That was that.
43:59All right, we're going to take a break here.
44:02And actually, sorry, let's finish up on this game.
44:05This is a very fantasy relevant game. How about Basil Tootin?
44:08You know, he splits carries basically even with Chris Rodriguez, but he gets two receiving touchdowns when he had 11 targets, I
44:15think, coming into the game in five games. So, Heath, what does that mean to you, Basil Tootin's game?
44:21He's a very good RB2. Not an RB1? No.
44:24No. I don't think he's – no, there were still too many Chris Rodriguez carries for me to say he's an RB1, but he's a very good RB2.
44:33You know what? Heath just kind of touched on this a little bit.
44:37Like, Josh Downs is a very talented player, and today he got opportunities and he doesn't deliver.
44:43Basil Tootin's a very talented player, and he delivers on his opportunities.
44:46Like, this is what we love about fantasy guys like this, is that when they find a way in some way, shape,
44:53or form – because he wasn't running the ball very well today at all, but he catches two touchdowns.
44:59Like, that's, to me, the sign of like, okay, you can see that there's so much more available to him because he's really good.
45:07And if Jacksonville would just say, you know what?
45:10Like what John Harbaugh said, we're waiting for somebody to be the guy.
45:14Like, it's pretty clear for Jacksonville, Basil Tootin's the guy.
45:17Let him be the guy. Get Chris Rodriguez out of there until you need him in an emergency situation.
45:23Like, give Basil Tootin 80% of the touches. Let's see what he can do.
45:28But he was the guy each of their last two games.
45:3122 carries last week against Philly, 17 against Cincinnati.
45:34Chris Rodriguez in those two games combined was eight carries.
45:37It's just not consistent. That's the problem. Right. And so I don't know what it's going to take for Liam Cohen to
45:44commit all the way to Basil Tootin every week instead of one week he's got it and then the next week he doesn't.
45:52He committed five weeks in a row. This was the first game that was like this.
45:57No, no, no, no. He's obviously the lead guy, but it's not like what we want to see, which is we want
46:04to see him be the only guy. Right. That's not going to happen.
46:08And that's what it was last week against Philly.
46:11Go ahead, Heath. In fairness, Chris Rodriguez was quite a bit better running the football today.
46:16Yeah, he was awesome. He's probably averaging more yards per carry for the season than Basil Tootin is.
46:21It's probably true. All right. It is true. Barely.
46:244.3 to 4.1. We'll be right back. We'll talk about the rest of the games after this.
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48:54We are back. Let's talk about game number two, and that is, in my notes, Chicago 31, Atlanta 23.
49:00Atlanta had the ball for less than 20 minutes in this game, and they had a furious comeback in the fourth quarter.
49:07And B. John Robinson had a horrible fantasy game because they barely had the ball.
49:12I don't think we're worried about him, but it is two bad B.
49:16John games in a row. Last week, you know, 15.8 fantasy points, 21 touches, whatever.
49:21This week, only 11 touches. Just to get it out of the way, we're not worried about B.
49:26John, right? Nope. You can try making offers for him, but I don't think you're going to get anywhere.
49:32I'm not worried about it. Would you rather rest of the season, Ken Walker or B.
49:37John Robinson? I'm going to go B. John and PPR and Walker and...
49:42I don't know, man. I think Walker is just rolling right now.
49:45Kind of hard to say B. John. I think I'm taking Walker.
49:49Yeah, he's pretty good. It's been awesome. Not worried about London.
49:53We talked about Pitt. So, anything on the other?
49:56Anything on the other? I would like to see the Falcons trailing more.
50:00Michael Penix was good. Yeah, he kind of came alive well into the second half.
50:04And that really helped him. The Bears defense, like, turned to crap when it was 31-7.
50:10It's almost like they figured the game was over and the Falcons were like, oh, not so fast.
50:15And they started to get moving a little bit.
50:18And then the Pitt's two touchdowns and two-point conversions after that gave Atlanta a chance.
50:23But they had a B. John holding penalty late in the game.
50:27The Bears' pass rush was actually a lot better this week.
50:30They got to Penix a lot in the second half and certainly toward the end of the game.
50:36And that made a huge difference. Kyler Gordon was back for them.
50:40He had three sacks. So, they were sending the nickel blitz quite often.
50:44And just too little too late for Atlanta, who two big turnovers on special teams just absolutely killed them.
50:50And that's a huge reason why they barely had the ball.
50:53And does anybody have anything to say about Caleb Williams?
50:57Because career-high completion rate, 305 passing yards, only 18 fantasy points.
51:00Heath, what are your thoughts on Caleb? I think I said at the beginning of the show, kudos.
51:06Fantastic. They like that all the time. The touchdowns will come.
51:09Like, it was a game where they had three rushing touchdowns.
51:13They'll probably have one or two most games. Great day.
51:16And Loveland. Kudos. Oh, go ahead. What's that? Isn't there a cereal kudos?
51:20No, it was a candy bar. Yeah. Candy bar.
51:23Snack bar. Snack bar. It was really a candy bar disguised as a snack bar.
51:28Those are really good, though. The cookies. Does Thomas have any idea of kudos?
51:32Because that's. Yeah, I do. I do. Okay. Thomas is good.
51:36I figured that that was around in the 90s.
51:38Not that young. Okay. Okay. Loveland should have had that second touchdown.
51:42And if he has that, then we're going crazy for Caleb Williams.
51:46If you've got him, you should feel great about him.
51:49Plus, two short touchdowns. For DeAndre Swift. If one of those goes Caleb's way, you're thrilled.
51:54Dave. You have your handy laminated schedule. Who do the Bears have next week?
51:59Next week, the Bears have New England. Then Seattle.
52:02Because that's the game of the week. Yeah. A Thursday night game of the week.
52:06It's the Patriots and the Bears, baby. I think it's a great call.
52:11The early game of the week. Hey. I love it.
52:14It's a great call. The way that Drake May has been playing.
52:18I did love that Patriots defense. We can talk about that when we get to that game.
52:23But that should be a fun one on Thursday.
52:26No question. Next game. Cleveland 13, Baltimore 10. Is anybody worried about Derrick Henry?
52:30I brought this up on Beyond the Box score.
52:33That he had a pretty easy schedule in his first five games.
52:37Colts, Saints, Cowboys, Titans, Falcons. And he had a pretty hard schedule after.
52:41I don't know. It was some hard games. You have the Jaguars on there and the Texans.
52:47I guess it's not that hard. It depends on Cincinnati.
52:50But I don't know. He fumbled today. Never. No one's worried about him.
52:54Forget it. Once Lamar comes back, he's going to be great, right?
52:58Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any takeaways for Cleveland? Bad game for Denzel Boston.
53:01Bad game for Deshaun Watson. Bad game. Yeah. Bad game.
53:05It was. It was just absolutely. Good game for Jerry Judy.
53:08Yeah. He had the most impactful catches. Played some good football today.
53:12He did. You wonder if some team offers him more than he's worth, but try to trade for him.
53:18Would you want to? I don't know. Cleveland's 4-2.
53:21Cleveland is 4-2, but you could still maximize your team's potential by moving on from somebody who might be replaceable from a production standpoint.
53:28And you have two really good young receivers that Jerry Judy's not part of the future.
53:34I get it. And I'd be surprised if Judy was a part of the future for the Cleveland Browns.
53:40But if he's who Deshaun Watson is trusting and he's making catches like he did today, look, I don't know.
53:46I'm a bi-week replacement at wide receiver maybe because his track record has just been so gross.
53:51But if that's who Watson has trust with, then I think they've got to keep him.
53:56Where's the bet at after today? It is closer.
53:59I checked earlier. So I think Zay Flowers is currently ahead only by 1.7 fantasy points per game.
54:05That's amazing. That's amazing. So you guys, one of you at least, put him as a first-round pick when we did our show on Wednesday.
54:13You have to guess which one? Lamar should be back.
54:16Lamar should be back. And Zay Flowers is just going to be incredible.
54:20That's probably going to be what happens. But this was two sides for you that happened today because the Giants lost a
54:27little bit of their – well, potentially a little bit of their lead.
54:31And so it could fall out of the playoff contention sooner.
54:35But no, he's already changed those terms as far as when it starts.
54:39Yeah, forget about that. All right, back to fantasy real quick here.
54:43Speaking of moving on, someone said moving on like a minute ago.
54:47And I thought, speaking of moving on, would you move on from Harold Fannin Jr.?
54:51I think you can. I think similar to what we've seen from Loveland and Pitts because Fannin had two good weeks.
54:58Like we're going to get these type of performances from these guys where they'll have a good week or two and then
55:05they'll disappear for a week or two and then they'll bounce back.
55:09So depending on what your tight end situation is, he's probably one that you should carry too.
55:14Yeah. Oh, yeah. Carolina 25, Philadelphia 14. So then what do we think about the – Wait, should we discuss the Browns backfield if there's no Judkins again?
55:23Sure. Who would you prefer? Still McLaughlin. But he's available in a bunch of leagues.
55:28I mean, we'll talk about him Tuesday. I'm going to guess Judkins plays though just based on how close he was to playing this week.
55:36How close was he? Well, I mean, he worked out pregame.
55:39He practiced on Friday. So that's a sign I'm sure that he was close to playing.
55:44McLaughlin led the way. 62% of the snaps. Half the third down snaps.
55:49Estime, of course, the big boy had two of three snaps inside the 10.
55:53It's ugly. McLaughlin had a couple. He had the nice run, nine-yard run and good average in the game.
55:59I don't really want to trust either one. Carolina 25, Philadelphia 14.
56:0314, Philadelphia 14. So, yeah. How freaked out should we be about the Eagles offense right now based on this game?
56:10This was what I was expecting from Dallas Goddard.
56:12This was great for their skill players. What are you talking about?
56:16Yeah. Well, I think the final numbers were. I saw almost nothing.
56:20But like I said, what I read was very discouraging.
56:23It seemed like Tanner McKee was horrible. He said he was horrible.
56:27There's how the sausage gets made and then what you're seeing as the finished product.
56:32Like, it's probably not going to be pretty with a second backup quarterback.
56:36It's probably not going to be consistent in an offense that clearly has got a lot of issues with Jalen Hurts or without Jalen Hurts.
56:44But if you were to say, again, by the end of the game, the running back had, what, 15 PPR points.
56:51The two receivers or the receiver in the tight end, both north of 12 PPR points, like a billion targets for Devontae Smith.
56:58Like, you'll take that. And I think like the asterisk is this is one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
57:05And the answer to that is they play the Commanders and the Giants the next two weeks.
57:10They get the Cowboys soon, don't they? The Cowboys, Commanders and Giants?
57:14Yeah, it's three straight NFC. How dare you? Yeah.
57:17So, like I said, it's probably going to be okay for the next three weeks.
57:21And I'd be worried if they start playing good defenses and Jalen Hurts isn't back.
57:26And I don't know if Jalen Hurts is coming back.
57:29So maybe if you can stack one or two of these and then you can trade Devontae Smith.
57:35They have the Eagles have one good defense until the fantasy playoffs.
57:39Right. And then it gets there at home for a big stretch of games.
57:43Through Thanksgiving. The fantasy playoffs is brutal. Seattle, Houston at San Francisco.
57:47But the schedule leading up to that is amazing.
57:50I can't imagine there's a team with a better schedule than the Philadelphia Eagles for the next two months, basically.
57:56Minnesota's up there. Okay. Good to know. There is some...
57:59I saw a few publications. And I'm curious your thoughts on this, Adam.
58:04Saquon Barkley to the Giants. How cool would that be?
58:07I would love that. That would be really cool.
58:10Because, like, Mike, both of my kids... Both of my kids have Barkley jerseys.
58:14So that would be just very convenient. Hand-me-downs. So, anyway, Devontae Smith...
58:18I'll ask what I asked about Nico. He was like a mid-third-round pick on draft day.
58:23Where would you take him now? Later than that.
58:26A little later. Mid-third round, yeah. Yeah, like... If he's getting double-digit targets every week, you're going to be thrilled.
58:32He's not going to get double-digit targets every week, though.
58:35Oh, if you're getting eight-plus. Excuse me. Well, that's...
58:38Yeah, that's good. All right. Let's go. I think the Panthers are pretty self-explanatory.
58:43I just wanted to see which... I just wanted to see who...
58:47Just stay healthy, Jalen Coker, please. I wanted to see which tight end ran more routes today.
58:52And it was Tremble, just barely. He ran half the routes.
58:55Waller, 45%. I'll have updated numbers for you tomorrow.
58:58Darren Waller's all about that base. Tennessee... Not sure I get that.
59:02Oh, no Tremble. Tennessee, 26. Indianapolis, 20. That was good.
59:05Colts had the ball for 38 minutes and 32 seconds.
59:08The Titans won this game somehow. They had a defensive touchdown.
59:12Turnovers. It was a special teams touchdown. A blocked punt.
59:15Yeah. They also had a big interception. Oh, gosh.
59:18Great catch. Heath, what the hell should we talk about with this game?
59:22What do you think? Carnell Tate's awesome. Keenan Allen apparently matters a little bit.
59:27We'll see how long that Tyler Warren's injured. But Keenan Allen maybe have to be ranked like right behind Josh Downs or maybe ahead of him.
59:35So three straight games Allen has played since Alec Pierce's injury.
59:38Nine, nine and 11 targets. Right. He's their best receiver.
59:41Yeah. On the Titans side of the ball, Tony Pollard is such an interesting player.
59:46I mean, this guy, 14, 17, 16, 19 carries in his last four games.
59:51And I don't know. He's been good in two of them.
59:54He's been kind of meh. He's been bad from PPR in two of them.
59:59He almost never scores. He has one touchdown. But he's a nice guy to have on your...
60:04They're not throwing to him either. Yeah. Right. One game he had four catches.
60:09Other than that, he has combined four catches, I think, in the other five.
60:13I might be missing one. Okay. All right. That's good enough for this one.
60:17Is he a trap back because he's not getting the high value touches?
60:22Or is he a trap back because he's trapped in Tennessee and they don't get near the goal line enough?
60:28Would you take Tony Pollard on the Giants? Yeah.
60:31He is not a trap back, though, because he is the goal line back.
60:35Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. But he doesn't score.
60:38You have to score. That's the trap. Speaking of the Giants, they lost 34-27 to the Saints.
60:43It was a 24-point game in the fourth quarter, and it became a pretty fun one at the end.
60:49You know, they benched Shuck at one point. They pulled him from the game.
60:54They didn't bench him. Right. They thought that they had the game in hand and Spencer Radley came.
61:00I said the wrong term. Yeah. Yeah. Kellen Moore, I think, regretted that after the game.
61:05They asked him about it. Shuck didn't really play very well, right?
61:09No. Okay. So I don't know how much you guys watched the game.
61:13I watched it almost in entirety. He had a lot of...
61:16Not a lot of drops. He had a few drops.
61:19He had some errant throws. He should have had better numbers passing.
61:23Yeah. I don't know. That wasn't really my impression.
61:26I mean, I'm sure that is true, but I didn't think he played well, regardless.
61:31He only threw for 144 yards. Actually, to be quite honest with you, I don't think the Giants defense is the layup
61:38that I thought it was going to be. They're playing fairly well.
61:42They were today. They blitzed the crap out of people.
61:45They give up touchdowns to quarterbacks. It's now five games in a row with multiple touchdowns to every quarterback they face.
61:51Right. I was buying into this Giants defense a little bit too much, too.
61:56But then you see them. They've got a fourth down, fourth and short, right at the end of the half.
62:02And Bryce Lance is running wide open at the post.
62:05And then the Alvin Kamara play is just crazy.
62:08I think four guys got their hands on him.
62:11And you've talked, Adam, about how slow he is and how he doesn't have explosive plays.
62:16And here he is getting an explosive play for a 31-yard touchdown on a screen pass from Tyler Shuck.
62:22And then you throw in the tush push on top of it.
62:26But the numbers are going to be great for Shuck.
62:29And everybody who started him is thrilled. And everybody who benched him is mad because they probably started Mahomes or Jameis or something like that.
62:37But I hear what he's saying. And I kind of agree.
62:41I don't think this was a particularly great game.
62:44And what you're saying, Adam, I don't think it was a great game for Shuck.
62:48Adam, who has more fantasy points? Isaiah Likely or Trey McBride?
62:52Likely. Likely. It is Isaiah Likely by four. And I think just to wrap it up on the Saints here, you know,
62:59you're going to keep starting Olave and Vele will be asked about every Sunday.
63:03I get it. But, you know, Shuck has Pittsburgh and Cleveland next.
63:07So, you know, you think he's going to be top 12?
63:11Probably around 12th this next week? I don't think he'll be top 12 for me this week.
63:16Next week. He'll be in that range. And then, yeah, Kendrick Miller appears to be the best.
63:21He'll be ranked behind the guy he's starting against.
63:24Behind Rodgers? Yeah. Of course. There's something. We'll talk about that game very soon.
63:29But something that I'm not liking at all about Aaron Rodgers.
63:32And, yeah, who do you think would be a better quarterback for Neighbors and Likely?
63:37McCarthy or Jameis? I mean, that's a Spider-Man meme.
63:40They're both. Yeah, right. It's just give them opportunities to make plays.
63:44And both have done that. I think McCarthy might have the stronger arm.
63:48And they're both not particularly accurate. And McCarthy can move a little better than Jameis.
63:53I would lean toward McCarthy. But it's not a good pick.
63:56Okay. I mean, this is easily the best wide receiver tight end duo in the NFL.
64:01In fantasy? Who's better in reality? Evans Kittle. Go on.
64:04Monroe LaPorter. Also go on. Yeah. Fan in. No.
64:07I would take these two if they had Purdy or golf.
64:11All right. Pittsburgh. That was a joke. Pittsburgh 26, Tampa Bay 19.
64:14Quote of the game from Aaron Rodgers. Once we got DK involved, the offense shifted.
64:19Maybe we can get that going a little earlier next time.
64:23DK Mech have 11 catches, 93 yards on 15 targets.
64:26Are we optimistic about him going forward? You have to be.
64:29Heath, good job by you to stick with him.
64:32Yeah, it didn't feel very good in the first half.
64:35No. Too tough. I think what you're going to say, Adam, that I'm a little bit worried about for DK is you
64:42mentioned that last week Rodgers started to go short, short, short again.
64:46And holy cow did he do that in this game.
64:49Even several of the DK targets were just right at the line of scrimmage.
64:54I don't think he really trusts his offensive line right now at all.
64:58But listen, one of the things we talked about this morning, he was throwing 38 passes per game coming into this game.
65:05Yeah, I know it was overtime. Threw 49 passes in this game.
65:09If he's going to throw it 40 times a game, then DK is probably going to be a low-end number two wide receiver.
65:16Is it that he didn't trust his offensive line or he was scared to death of the blitz that the Bucs bring pretty much every single play?
65:25He got knocked around. Thursday or Friday, whenever we broke down this game, this could be another week of that.
65:31Yeah. Five sacks by Tampa. I think Tampa's defense is good.
65:35Yeah. Yeah, I think we went into the season, I at least thought this was an easy matchup for quarterbacks, whatever, and wide receivers.
65:42And they seem to be doing a pretty good job.
65:45And then they fell apart at the end of the Dallas game a little bit.
65:50They fell apart in overtime of this game. But to give you some reference here, the lowest air yards per pass attempt,
65:57or let's just call it ADOT for syllable simplicity.
66:00The lowest ADOT for any quarterback in the NFL is Bo Nix at 4.9.
66:04And that is so unbelievably low. Second lowest is Jalen Daniels.
66:08Of the Bucs at 6.1. The last two games for Aaron Rodgers have been lower than Bo Nix.
66:14It was like 4.6 last week. And unofficially, I'll say, because these things can change, 4.2.
66:19No, 4.0 intended air yards per pass attempt this week.
66:22I bet it's higher next week. Yeah, he's got the Saints.
66:25I hope so. But I don't love seeing that.
66:28But what did you guys think of Jalen Warren's usage, Jamie?
66:32Sucked. It was good at the end of the game, good in overtime.
66:36But it was not great. Certainly largely disappointing by what we saw the previous three games without Rico Dato there.
66:42So Dato ran better than him the majority of the game.
66:46So you just still start him as a number two running back.
66:50But this was the concern is that when he gets competition, he's not going to be as great.
66:55And you should have sold high when you had the chance.
66:59What? That's not fair. We were talking about how great he was all week.
67:03Like he wasn't really a sell high. No, he was definitely a sell high.
67:08Only if you were going to get what? We were even nervous about giving him up for like Chase Brown, I feel.
67:15I think we were much more high. You could certainly be.
67:18I mean, I'll go back and listen to Wednesday's show.
67:21I think it was either Dave or Heath said he was a sell high, if I'm not mistaken.
67:27There was going to be a change. You had to expect a change.
67:31We didn't expect it to be this bad of a change, but there had to be a change.
67:37And so this was one of the more obvious sell high candidates.
67:41I don't know. I think we felt like he was a...
67:44I'm going to think, I'm going to guess what we said was you don't give him away.
67:50Well, I think we thought it was like a top...
67:53And yes, you have reservations about Chase Brown level player, but if you could have turned him into something great, you should have tried to do so.
68:01I think you could say that about, yeah, most guys, but I feel like we felt like he was going to be
68:08a real fantasy asset, like basically a must-start guy.
68:11Agreed. Agreed. But there was going to be a decrease in production, a decrease in playing time, and we saw it play out today.
68:19Well... It wasn't that bad. It was 74% of the snaps, so...
68:23I don't know if I'm going to say a huge decrease.
68:26It's a little bit... Yeah, that's fine. Still percentages, I mean...
68:30I don't like the efficiency at all. Right. He had two-thirds of the carries.
68:34Right. Aaron Rodgers throws 49 times, Warren has four catches, and Rodgers is throwing short, and Warren has four targets, I should say.
68:41Excuse me. Four targets, two catches. All right, so give me Devontae Smith or Jalen Warren, rest of season?
68:47Devontae. It's probably what you need, but I would say in a vacuum it would be...
68:52I kind of... Devontae. I'll say Warren. Warren, I'm not buying the Tanner McKee's going to throw 45 times every week.
68:59Did you see the start of that game? I don't think they had a design rush attempt their first two drives.
69:06Would you? If you had Damian Pierce and Carson Steele as your running back?
69:10If I had Tanner McKee throwing the ball, I would.
69:13I'd throw in at least one run. I think we're going to get Baker Mayfield back next week, hopefully.
69:20And at least if you had the guts to start Ibuka the last two weeks, it's worked out.
69:25He was 68% started this week. Seven catches, 48 yards, and a touchdown on 16 targets.
69:30He's still not playing as well as I would like to see him play.
69:35Like, I know it's Jalen Daniels, and it's an undrafted rookie, and he's not...
69:39Like, he's not a regular NFL quarterback. But it seems like Ibuka leaves yards and catches on the field every game.
69:46Yeah, Dave said Wednesday, sell high on Jalen Warren.
69:49Yeah. Right, but I still think we thought, like, he'd be pretty good.
69:53I think he'd be better than he was today.
69:56Nobody's saying he's going to be 9.8 PPR fantasy points the rest of the year.
70:00Everybody's still going to start Jalen Warren, unless you're just absolutely loaded at running back.
70:05And if you want to try and sell him now, you can.
70:09You're not going to be able to get what you got 48 hours ago.
70:14But you're still going to be able to get something good for Jalen Warren.
70:18I don't think this is a representation of who he's going to be the rest of the season.
70:24And as for Ibuka, like, 37% target share is real great.
70:27I don't think it's going to be that high anytime soon.
70:31If you can sell high on Ibuka, you have an out.
70:34There's an off-ramp here. All right, New England 26, Jets 19.
70:38And we talked about Braylon Allen. Yes, of course, Christian Gonzalez.
70:41I don't know if it was shadowing like he normally does, but he was on Garrett Wilson quite a bit.
70:48So not a surprise that Wilson didn't have a very good game.
70:51He had four catches for 44 yards on six targets.
70:55We could get Adam Mitchell back next week. That could hurt Omar Cooper Jr.
70:59If you're thinking about him for waivers, but that's a topic for Tuesday.
71:03Drake May is great. We talked about Ramondre. I honestly feel like we covered everything in this game.
71:09And what we haven't covered, we'll cover on Tuesday.
71:12But who's more of a priority to get on waiver wire?
71:15Demario Douglas or Hunter Henry? Henry. Yeah. It's the position scarcity for me.
71:19Would you rather have Jalen Warren or A.J. Brown rest of season?
71:23A.J. Brown. Warren. Warren. Kansas City 22, the Chargers 6.
71:26Surprise, the Chargers had 6 points. Please drop Justin Herbert.
71:29He's going into his bye. Then he has the Rams in Houston.
71:33So please drop him already. Yeah, Heath? Tweet of the game.
71:37I thought that was really cool. NFL researcher. Kenneth Walker is the first player with at least 750 scrimmage yards and 8
71:44touchdowns through the first 5 games of a season since?
71:47Danian? No. Who was it? Was it another Chiefs running back?
71:50Just guessing. DeMarco Murray. Brian Westbrook. Arian Foster. Priest Holmes.
71:54Dave got it. Well, that's because he got to guess last.
71:57That wasn't fair. I said before anybody guessed anything, was it a former Chiefs running back?
72:02Who do you think I was thinking about? I could have been thinking about Jamal Charles, I guess.
72:08Poor Lad McConkie. Tough year. Yeah. What would you do if someone dropped Omari and Hampton?
72:13Congratulate them. This backfield is a three-way split all the way through.
72:17And I don't know if there's even one good running back on this team at this point.
72:22Trade him. Trade him? What are you going to get for him?
72:26Chargers. Trade him. Oh, the Chargers trade him. Sure.
72:29That's what they're going to do. The Chiefs, other than Kenneth Walker, played an awful, uninspired football game today.
72:35It was gross. Were you at least okay with what Xavier Worthy did?
72:39He made a couple of nice catches on bad throws for Mahomes.
72:43It was like they just knew they showed up for a preseason game.
72:47And I watched this team play the Dolphins. The Chargers are the worst team in the NFL.
72:52Oh, yeah. Mahomes has thrown 30 or fewer pass attempts in four or five games.
72:57He started out the 2024 season similarly. He threw fewer than 30 passes in four of six games.
73:03And then in the last 10 games of the year, he averaged 39.4 passes per game.
73:08Pull up that handy-dandy laminated schedule, Dave. Sure. Let's talk about what's coming for the Chiefs.
73:13I think he's going to throw a few more passes in the upcoming weeks.
73:18Seattle next week. Denver after that. Jets after that.
73:20Atlanta after that. Why? Why do you think he's going to do that?
73:25I think they're going to be in more competitive games.
73:28I don't see a lot of good offenses on this schedule.
73:31Seattle is fine. Denver, they're basically the Chargers. Jets?
73:34Falcons? They're basically the Chargers. What? They are? I don't know.
73:38I mean, they run the ball. Every offense you said was better than the Dolphins and the Chargers.
73:43They run the ball so well. I mean, I don't think Walker can keep this pace up.
73:49But didn't the Chiefs lose a couple of linemen?
73:52You said that about Bauer going into the weekend and he sucked.
73:55Yeah, that's true. Didn't the Chiefs lose a couple of linemen in this game?
74:00Yep. One to a concussion. I don't remember what the other one was.
74:04But yeah, they were playing third string linemen. So were the Chargers.
74:08They were very comfortable in this environment. Those guys have played a lot of preseason games against opponents like this.
74:14If you knew that Joe Ault and Rashawn Slater were going to play next week, it's not going to happen.
74:20One's on IR. But whenever they come back and they're going to play, would it make you feel better about any of the Chargers players?
74:28No. They played at the start of the season.
74:31Ault was really bad at the start of the season.
74:34All right. Serious question here. Serious question. They're going to their bye.
74:38Do you think they'll get something sorted out and Amari and Hampton will be good after the bye?
74:44No. If interim offense coordinator Adam Gase decides to run Amari and Hampton more, and if you're still not laughing with what
74:51I'm saying, no, there's nothing that's going to get better.
74:54I'm not laughing. The biggest disappointment and bust in maybe the last 10 years.
74:59Okay. Second question. Second question. The most hilarious thing is that Adam Gase is the backup plan.
75:04Unless they just decide we're going to just fire everybody except Harbaugh.
75:08And he just coaches everything. Second question is, do you think Xavier Worthy will continue to be good when Rasheed Rice is back?
75:15No. Nope. Okay. Let me ask a third question.
75:18No. Can we go to the next game, please?
75:21Do you think the Chiefs go full nuclear and move Justin Herbert?
75:25If a team like the Giants, Chargers, yes, that's what I meant.
75:28I was thinking Howie might try to pull the Goff-Stafford deal.
75:32Team loads up with first-round picks to the Chargers for Herbert.
75:35I mean, he sounds like the next Andrew Luck based on the things he's saying.
75:40And, like, again, again, I know the situation's awful and I feel bad for him.
75:45Every week, it's one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen.
75:48I know. What is happening? It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Like, there was not – Mahomes threw a terrible interception, but there were at
75:55least other players from his team in the general vicinity of the bowl.
76:00I would like Jameis Winston and Justin Herbert to have an interception competition.
76:04All right. Let's go to Buffalo 33, Las Vegas 30.
76:07If you're wondering what happened with Brock Bowers, Christian Benford did not shadow him, but he was on him a lot, and
76:14he did a great job to the point where J.J.
76:17Watt said on the broadcast, like, don't take Christian Benford off of Brock Bowers.
76:21Bowers had a few catches on one possession, and he said, put 47 back on Bowers.
76:27I would put him on him for the rest of the game.
76:30That's what J.J. Watt said. It's pretty clear Keon Coleman is good without D.J.
76:35Moore. They're going into their bye. I assume D.J.
76:38Moore will be back. Do you guys think Keon Coleman or Khalil Shakir is worth holding through the bye?
76:44You should try to, especially in the case of – I think Coleman, but I'm not 100% sure.
76:49There's no guarantee that Moore returns. I mean – Right.
76:53There's not. He got into practice on Friday. He was questionable.
76:56So that's just what – So he did the same thing two weeks in a row, essentially.
77:02He practiced Friday in a non-contact jersey. Yeah. And I agree with you.
77:06He's probably getting closer. My guess is they saw their bye coming up and maybe felt they could beat the Raiders without him.
77:13I'm not going to say that's what they said, but who knows.
77:17But getting him healthy is a priority. If they do have Baltimore and Minnesota after the bye, how good are you going
77:24to feel starting those guys if D.J. Moore is playing?
77:27No. No. They're droppable. I don't think that they're like must drops by any stretch.
77:32Heath – Keon Coleman looks great though. Yeah. He really does look like a much better player than he did last year, yes.
77:39Heath, if you had Ashton Gentry, 10 carries, 22 yards and a touchdown.
77:43Four catches, 36 yards. Are you happy? I mean, I'm happy with the fantasy production.
77:48I'm going to be a little bit nervous every week.
77:51I think I would probably rather have Chase Brown than Ashton Gentry and I'd rather have Ashton Gentry than Jalen Warren.
77:58A.J. Brown or Ashton Gentry rest of season? I'll take Gentry.
78:01Gentry. As long as they're throwing him the ball.
78:04Gentry. Arizona, 18. Rams, 16. Thomas points out that the 2026 Chargers are the biggest disappointment since the 2026 Rams.
78:10It's unbelievable. That was fantastic. This is my favorite stat related to this game.
78:15The Arizona Cardinals have won more games at SoFi than the Rams and Chargers combined.
78:20Yeah. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah. It wasn't a great game for the Chargers, for the Cardinals though, from a fantasy standpoint.
78:26But yeah, go ahead, Jamie. We may have an unhappy player here.
78:30Kyron Williams after the game. Do you hear what he said?
78:34Yes. Great quote. Great quote. What did he say?
78:37He was asked why he thought the team couldn't sustain the energy drive to drive.
78:41Can't tell you, bro. Probably because I'm not out there.
78:44Meanwhile, he played 71% of the snaps, all but one of their third downs.
78:49They didn't get inside the 10, except for one snap.
78:52He was on it. It was just, this is going to be one to go back and watch and figure out what the hell happened.
79:00They just went hard. It was kind of like what the Bears did to Penix, I thought, early in that game, which
79:07was like, we're going to come at you really, really hard every play.
79:11And the Rams offensive line didn't handle it very well.
79:14They were missing one or two guys. Yeah, their left tackle, right?
79:18Right. But they just, they pressured him a lot and hit him a lot early in the game.
79:24I mean, to be honest with you, I don't think Stafford has played that well this year.
79:29No. Agreed. Missing open men. And he's, he threw two.
79:32He's got almost as many interceptions this year as he had all of last year.
79:37So I don't know, but this was surprising for sure.
79:40And we'll see what the Devante Adams injury is.
79:43And one of the risks with starting a Rams tight end is always the Colby Parkinson thing.
79:49Parkinson had more targets. He had the touchdown. Just very strange, you know, and you just never know which tight end is going to be the guy.
79:57So unfortunately for those of you who started Higby, he was started in 54% of leagues.
80:02It was a Parkinson day today. Parkinson had five catches, 31 yards and a touchdown on six targets.
80:08How good is Sean McVay going to be on Monday Night Football next year?
80:13If Jeremiah Love is out next week, are you going to go with Tyler Algier or Zonovan Knight?
80:18Bam Knight. Neither if I can help it. Yeah.
80:21Still Algier. It's Denver? Yeah. It looked to me like they didn't really change Algier's role and that they just kept him
80:28in that same passing downs type role. Why did that Mike LaFleur screw this up?
80:33I don't know if he screwed it up. They won.
80:36Nope. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was just better.
80:39He had the bigger run. Knight hit a couple of big runs early in the game and they just stayed with the hot hand.
80:47I think if, if next game Algier has a couple of big runs early in the game, you'll get a lot more carries.
80:54And on that note. And on that note. I'm disappointed he only had one catch.
80:59I'd like to end by saying that I understand riding the hot hand.
81:03I understand fumbling, you know, punishing people for fumbling.
81:06I think that John Harbaugh cost the Giants a game today by benching the only guy who has like any capability of running the football.
81:14Tyrone Tracy scored two touchdowns. Yeah. He scored, he scored a receiving touchdown and then fine.
81:19You know what? Give him the ball. Don't give Devin Singletary and Najee Harris the ball.
81:24Singletary looked great at the end. Oh, whatever. And every time the Giants, you know who led the team in rushing?
81:30JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy led the team in rushing with like 26 yards.
81:34And every time the Giants were in third and eight on every possession because they couldn't run the freaking ball.
81:41They're terrible on first down. So you proved your freaking point.
81:44Congratulations. You proved your point. What'd you prove? That you had a terrible running game and you cost yourself a game because
81:51you couldn't do jack crap on first down? Way to go.
81:55Don't you remember the preseason quote? And you said we were making too much of it.
82:00No. I just don't think they don't. They were talking about Cam Scadaboo starting a fight.
82:05Oh, yeah. At training camp and Harbaugh was all pissed off at them.
82:09They don't like this nonsense. No, that was one reporter who over- It's Dable's fault, really.
82:14I think what today showed us is they could trade Jackson Dart to the Eagles for Saquon Barkley.
82:20And JJ McCarthy is your future starter. There you go.
82:23Yep. Love it. I think this is a perfect time to plug Dan's podcast, Big Blue Banter.
82:29Yeah, watch me. It's going to be a great episode tonight.
82:32I don't know. We just got a lot of banter from a Big Blue fan just now, and that was pretty good.
82:39Oh, man. All right. Well, we'll talk soon. Is this the first time you've worn that schmata the entire day?
82:45On the show? Yes. This Giants hoodie? No, I've worn it before, I think.
82:50It's a very nice hoodie. Very comfortable hoodie. But you mushed them.
82:54I didn't mush them. They suck. Everyone knows they suck.
82:57They're just in the sucky division. They're clearly the best team in the division.
83:01By the way, Heath and Dave, you have to watch Adam's rants on the mailback.
83:06What was it about? What did he do? Oh, my God.
83:10I was broadcasting with the two biggest hypocrites in fantasy football history.
83:13Wrong. Wrong. We explained ourselves perfectly clear. Adam's shoulders.
83:16If you see where the draft board is, where our names are, that's how high Adam's shoulders were.
83:22He was so, so upset. Oh, man. It was great.
83:25And honestly, reading the comments, there are so many people that are like, Adam, you're so wrong.
83:30And so many people are like, Adam is right.
83:33It was a really great argument. I encourage you to listen.
83:37So I had a buddy of mine that I didn't know listens to our show.
83:42And he's like, it was a question about a husband and wife making a trade.
83:46And he just texted me 100% collusion. And so then his wife was like, and so I mentioned his name on the show.
83:54And then his wife was like, oh, what's the part where you said his name?
83:58And I said, it was between the husband and wife cheating and the alligator story.
84:03Like, it's just so crazy of a show. That's the mailbag for you.
84:07All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow. I'll be on the show.
84:11Oh, one more thing. One more thing. Somebody on the show is turning 50.
84:16Oh, yeah. That tomorrow? Somebody else on this show knew that somebody was turning 50 and decided until right now to even bring it up on the show.
84:24Oh, that's a failure on my part. Heath, happy 50th birthday.
84:28I got a couple years. Jamie, Monday is Jamie's 50th birthday.
84:31Holy cow. Happy birthday, dude. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you.
84:35How are you celebrating? How am I celebrating? Doing rankings?
84:38Writing a waiver wire column? Yep. Doing beat the waiver wire with Adam?
84:42Running somebody to somewhere to practice? Driving something? No, I canceled basketball practice.
84:46I actually canceled basketball practice. Wow. I'll write the column for you, Jamie.
84:50What do you think? Let's see. Then you'll lead the column with J.J.
84:54McCarthy and Tyra Tracy and check out my big loose Martha.
84:58I don't even know what that word means, but it can't be good.
85:02Oh, man. All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow, everybody.
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