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Week 7 Winners & Losers: Biggest Takeaways From Every Game! + Early Waiver Wire, Injury Updates & More! (10/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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1 hr 23 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Oct 26, 2026
Published
Mon, October 26, 2026
105
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71
Players mentioned
Topics
Tony PollardChristian McCaffreyGarrett WilsonJustin JeffersonNico CollinsTyrone TracyAaron JonesAlvin KamaraBijan RobinsonCam WardChase BrownChris GodwinJaylen WaddleJordan Addison
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Aaron Jones

NegativeInjury21:40

Aaron Jones left the game in Week 7 with a knee injury; he has been playing with a sprained MCL, and this additional knee injury warrants monitoring going forward.

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NegativeInjury48:17

Aaron Jones has been dealing with a knee injury since week two and re-aggravated it; his status is uncertain heading forward, which directly impacts Jordan Mason's upside.

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Alvin Kamara

NegativeProjection22:25

Alvin Kamara recorded only 5 rushing yards in Week 7 for the Saints, reflecting the team's overall offensive struggles and lack of running back production.

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NegativeUsage51:42

Alvin Kamara almost caught a touchdown in an incredible sequence toward the end of the first half of the Saints game; the play was part of a chaotic red zone sequence that also involved Derek Carr fumbling and Kendrick Miller fumbling at the one-yard line.

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Bam Knight

PositiveRole25:01

Zonovan Night is the better of the two Cardinals running backs and should be rostered as a handcuff in case of lingering absence for Jeremiah Love; he should have had a touchdown after dropping one in the end zone.

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Bijan Robinson

NegativeProjection62:58

Robinson scored 18 points per game on average but has failed to reach that threshold in three straight games with scores of 15.8, 7.3, and approximately 17 PPR points; however, he remains a top-five player and trade target, still getting consistent work. Historical precedent: Robinson had a worse three-game stretch in weeks 8–10 last year before winning fantasy leagues afterward.

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NegativeProjection63:04

Scored 17.5 PPR points in Week 7, his best performance in his last three games (7.5, 15.8, 7.3 in prior three weeks). Year Up United's notes this is a respectable output and that concerns about his recent production should be put to rest.

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Bo Nix

PositiveProjection12:01

Bo Nix had a strong performance against the Cardinals, including a 60-yard rushing touchdown and benefiting from the Broncos' improved run game and the Cardinals' man-to-man coverage scheme; the source notes this performance built confidence for Nix moving forward.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveRole112:11

Allen is expected to have a bigger role than before following Brice's injury. Allen will be touchdown-dependent flex play, while Brice will handle most of the passing work as the RB2. A potential coaching change could alter offensive philosophy and role distribution.

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Brandin Cooks

NegativeProjection61:52

Cooks was a dud in the 49ers' loss to Atlanta; the 49ers offense is not looking good overall.

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Breece Hall

NegativeRole70:01

The speaker is freaked out about Breece Hall going forward, suggesting concern about his role or production trajectory, particularly in contrast to Ollie Gordon's emergence as a clear starter.

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Brock Purdy

NegativeProjection12:23

Brock Purdy was started over Malik Willis and Bo Nix in Week 7; the source notes this was the correct decision in hindsight, as Purdy was the preferred quarterback start over the other two options.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveUsage50:17

Bucky Irving saw significant goal-line work, receiving multiple carries near the goal line, suggesting he is a primary target for short-yardage opportunities.

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C.J. Stroud

NegativeProjection5:10

Took a step back in Week 7 against Giants defense, contributing to Texans' overall bad game and Nico Collins' shutdown performance.

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Caleb Douglas

PositiveBreakout25:25

Caleb Douglas had 3 catches for 2 touchdowns; showing explosive play despite limited target volume and is widely available on waivers.

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Cam Ward

NegativeBust12:59

Cam Ward is being compared to Jamarcus Russell as a potential bust; the source is responding to a hot take that Ward is the worst bust since Russell, indicating significant disappointment with Ward's performance.

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PositiveUsage20:10

Titans deployed no-huddle offense extensively in Week 7, running 18 no-huddle snaps (more than any team at that point in the day), which appeared to help Ward's performance.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeInjury22:55

Carnell Tate left the game in Week 7 but returned, indicating a minor injury.

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Chase Brown

NegativeProjection7:07

Chase Brown had an unproductive game (11 carries, 39 yards, 4 catches, 19 yards) despite dominating touches and snap share; while he retained work and played 2-of-3 snaps inside the five, the lack of explosiveness and inefficiency is concerning for a first or second round pick, and upcoming matchups against Pittsburgh and Washington (very good run defenses) may not help unlock his potential.

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NegativeRole11:46

Chase Brown is becoming difficult to start on a weekly basis; the source agrees with this assessment and notes that while Brown may be started in favorable matchups like next week against Tennessee, his role and consistency remain problematic.

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Chris Godwin

NegativeUsage66:35

Recorded 5 targets on 11 total team targets (45% target share) in Week 7 against Carolina, scoring 6.7 PPR points despite having a touchdown called back on a legal shift/formation. Analysts give the performance a pass given the weak opponent (Panthers) and note he hasn't yet played a game without Mike Evans.

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PositiveRole68:42

Godwin is preferred over Addison if Luca is out; the speaker suggests Godwin could lead the team in targets next week without Mecca Buka and would rank him in the top 36 discussions, indicating significant upside if the injury situation breaks favorably.

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Christian Kirk

PositiveUsage61:52

Kirk was started in only 17% of leagues; didn't play much and didn't get a target in the 49ers' loss to Atlanta, reflecting the 49ers' offensive struggles.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeInjury24:45

Suffered a thigh injury in Week 7 and played only four total snaps in the second and third quarters combined; has a bye week coming. Year Up United's expresses no major concern about his status going forward.

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NegativeInjury24:45

Christian McCaffrey sat for part of the game but appears to be fine; still worth monitoring for any lingering issues.

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NegativeInjury50:28

Christian McCaffrey got hurt during the game but returned and scored a long touchdown run, indicating he was able to continue playing despite the injury.

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NegativeInjury64:04

McCaffrey suffered an injury in the 49ers game and played only four total snaps combined in the second and third quarters, raising concerns about his health status.

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CJ Donaldson

NegativeInjury22:10

CJ Donaldson left early in Week 7 for the Saints; the Saints go into their bye week and hope to get Travis Etienne back in Week 9.

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Colby Parkinson

NegativeInjury23:40

Colby Parkinson was beat up in Week 7, going in and out of the game all day for the Rams.

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Dalton Schultz

PositiveRole40:55

Dalton Schultz has emerged as a clear factor in the Cardinals passing attack, establishing himself as a receiving option alongside Marvin Harrison Jr. and other receivers, indicating a meaningful role in the offense.

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Darnell Washington

PositiveUsage52:48

Darnell Washington scored a touchdown in the Saints-Steelers game; he was one of only two touchdown scorers in the game (along with Devon Vele).

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Denzel Boston

PositiveProjection27:16

Boston was a disappointment in the game despite receiving nine targets in a Browns offense that distributed targets across multiple receivers; however, the fact that he's getting consistent target volume (nine targets) suggests he remains part of the offense's plan and could improve as the season progresses.

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Derek Carr

NegativeUsage51:42

Derek Carr had a poor passing game performance in the Saints-Steelers game; the speaker noted that the Pittsburgh passing game was weak overall, with Carr fumbling on a goal line attempt and failing to convert on a tush push attempt.

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Deshaun Watson

NegativeProjection28:35

Watson posted a season-high 36 pass attempts, though not by much (he'd been at 33 attempts a couple of times previously); the volume was still significant for him but not indicative of a dramatic shift in the Browns' passing approach.

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Devin Singletary

NegativeRole24:23

Devin Singletary is a running back option to consider on waivers if you want to get ahead of the bye week; mentioned in context of Giants injury situation.

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Garrett Wilson

NegativeBust26:12

Garrett Wilson came off a bad game; his struggles may be opening opportunities for other Jets receivers like Omar Cooper Jr., raising questions about whether there is a Garrett Wilson problem developing.

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NegativeRole26:41

Wilson came off a bad game and may have a problem with quarterback Geno Smith; there was a heated argument between them on the sidelines, raising questions about whether his lack of production was due to insufficient targets or interpersonal issues; upcoming matchup against the Raiders could be telling.

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PositiveMatchup41:23

Garrett Wilson is positioned for increased target opportunities against the Texans; the source contrasts the Texans' defense (better than the Jets' but still weak) with the Jets' tendency to be in shootout situations, suggesting Wilson will see more passing volume when circumstances align favorably.

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Geno Smith

NegativeMatchup23:51

Gino Smith is on the waiver wire and gets the Raiders this week; mentioned as a quarterback option to consider for streaming purposes.

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Greg Dulcich

PositiveUsage112:48

Dulcich had a big game with five catches for 86 yards on five targets. This marks two straight games with five targets for Dulcich, indicating consistent target volume and opportunity.

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J.J. McCarthy

PositiveProjection12:00

JJ McCarthy looked awesome in the Texans' game; the source highlights his strong performance as a positive takeaway from the week.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveProjection5:10

Williams was ranked as one of the top five flex performers in Week 7, indicating strong weekly production.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeInjury12:06

Jalen Waddle had limited impact in the Dolphins-Broncos game with few targets and no huge plays; he also suffered a shoulder injury during the game, which is a concern for his ongoing availability and performance.

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NegativeInjury22:40

Jalen Waddle suffered an arm or shoulder injury late in Week 7 for the Dolphins.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveUsage53:58

Jalen Warren was awesome in the Saints-Steelers game; the speaker highlighted him as a bright spot in an otherwise poor passing game performance by Pittsburgh.

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Jaylen Wright

NegativeInjury22:00

Jalen Wright left the game in the fourth quarter for the Dolphins in Week 7.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeRole25:01

Jeremiah Love is the primary Cardinals running back; Zonovan Night is the backup to monitor in case of lingering absence.

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Joe Burrow

PositiveProjection10:06

Joe Burrow had four touchdown passes in the second half against the Bengals' opponent; the Bengals' offense was pass-heavy in the second half after a run-focused first half, with Burrow's strong passing performance contributing to the team's offensive success.

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Jonah Coleman

PositiveSleeper25:15

Jonah Coleman should be rostered in many more leagues than he currently is; identified as an undervalued waiver wire target.

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Jordan Addison

NegativeUsage46:06

Addison had only three targets in this game on 24 pass attempts by Kyler Murray, indicating limited involvement in the Cardinals' passing attack; Year Up United's is not going to start him going forward.

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NegativeDepth Chart68:21

Addison is a drop candidate for Week 7 with Detroit coming up; the speaker would hold Chris Godwin over Addison if Luca (Lucas) is out, suggesting conditional value based on injury status of competing receivers.

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Jordan Mason

NegativeRole44:47

Mason is characterized as a trap back who will not be involved in the passing game; he will have games like this one where he's not a factor in the offense's passing attack, and the team will find other backs like Clay Bourne or DJ Dallas to share touches with him.

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PositiveRole48:17

Mason is positioned to be a strong play if Aaron Jones (knee injury since week two, re-aggravated) misses time; he averaged just shy of 13 PPR points per game in games Jones missed last year and will secure short-yardage touchdown opportunities, projecting to hover around RB20 during Jones's absence.

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Josh Downs

NegativeBust67:59

Downs is a drop candidate; the speaker advocates dropping him entirely, suggesting his fantasy value is severely compromised despite earlier season context.

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Josh Jacobs

NegativeProjection11:05

Josh Jacobs owns the Green Bay backfield and is projected to be a top 12 running back for the rest of the season; the source prefers Jacobs over Chase Brown in the same backfield, though notes there is a suspension risk to monitor with Jacobs.

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Justin Jefferson

NegativeRole41:50

Justin Jefferson's role and production are in question following the Vikings' poor offensive performance in their win over the Colts; the source flags this as a concern worth monitoring despite Minnesota's 6-0 record.

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NegativeRole42:05

Jefferson should be treated as a high-end number two receiver rather than a top-tier option; Year Up United's notes that there are at least eight receivers they would rather have than Jefferson, and his production is heavily dependent on other Cardinals receivers being unavailable, as evidenced by his one good game with Kyler when nobody else was there.

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NegativeProjection47:10

Jefferson remains in the top 12 receiver conversation, but the speaker expresses concern about his current trajectory; while one good game against Detroit could restore confidence, he's no longer in the top six conversation and the recent performance is not encouraging.

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Kaelon Black

NegativeRole50:22

Kalon Black received a goal-line carry but was stuffed; the speaker suggests this was his opportunity and he failed to capitalize, indicating limited future goal-line role.

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NegativeRole50:22

Kalon Black got a goal line carry and was stuffed; the speaker indicated he had his chance but didn't convert. Kendrick Miller is the clear goal line guy for the time being until Travis Etienne returns, and the speaker expressed uncertainty about Black's role when Etienne does come back.

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Keenan Allen

PositiveUsage68:08

Allen's target share has deteriorated sharply; he received only 3 targets on 22 pass attempts in a recent game, down from 9, 9, and 11 targets in the previous three games, indicating a significant decline in offensive involvement and role.

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NegativeValue114:53

Keenan Allen was offered in a trade for Braylon Allen by a fantasy manager seeking running back depth while holding excess wide receivers. The trade was accepted after Brice's injury report, creating a timing-dependent value scenario.

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Kendre Miller

NegativeProjection22:25

Kendry Miller recorded 6 rushing yards in Week 7 for the Saints, part of a historically poor rushing performance by the team.

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Kyler Murray

NegativeProjection45:11

Murray had 39 rushing yards in this game, marking back-to-back games with approximately 40 yards per game on the ground; his career average coming into the season was 36 yards per game, so the rushing floor is a positive development.

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Laviska Shenault

PositiveValue53:33

Laviska Shenault is a stud and should be held through the bye week; the speaker recommended holding him despite the Saints' bye week approaching.

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Malik Willis

NegativeProjection12:23

Malik Willis was not started in Week 7, with Brock Purdy being the preferred quarterback option over Willis and Bo Nix.

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PositiveProjection69:14

Willis had a great fantasy day with over 30 fantasy points, ran the ball well, and now has his full receiving core healthy; he is entering the streaming conversation as a potential quarterback option going forward.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

NegativeMatchup20:40

Underperformed in Week 7 against Carolina despite Year Up United's Dave Richard's strong pregame recommendation to start him over Chris Godwin. Both receivers struggled in the blowout loss, though Harrison did catch a touchdown.

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PositiveRole40:40

Marvin Harrison Jr. is expected to become increasingly comfortable and integrated into the Cardinals offense; the source notes he's been featured back-to-back weeks and will continue to see target opportunities as he settles in, suggesting his role and upside are expanding.

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Mason Taylor

PositiveProjection113:15

Mason Taylor is the number one tight end in the Jets-Dolphins matchup context, establishing him as a top-tier tight end option.

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Michael Carter

NegativeRole32:32

Michael Carter received significant work in Week 7, filling the role typically held by Tajay Spears, who was inactive.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeProjection114:07

Wilson had a not-great game with four catches for 55 yards. He is expected to fluctuate between wide receiver three and flex depending on matchup and bye weeks. Upcoming schedule includes Dallas (favorable), then Seattle, Rams, and Chiefs (less favorable).

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Mike Evans

PositiveProjection61:28

Evans has a touchdown in four straight games and all but one game this year; 50% roster ownership; had one target in the most recent game but in non-PPR formats might be a good starting option going forward.

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Nico Collins

NegativeBust5:10

Massive Week 7 disappointment with 2 PPR points after being shadowed by Deontay Banks in a Giants box-one defensive scheme. Consecutive weeks of shutdown coverage (Travis Hunter last week, Banks this week) have raised questions about must-start status. Only 10 targets over last two games. Docked at least one round from 2-3 turn draft position; now projects as number-two receiver going forward. Bye week follows, then faces Chargers and Cleveland.

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NegativeValue6:19

Nico Collins, drafted at the 2-3 turn, should be docked at least a round in current redraft valuations due to recent underperformance and role concerns.

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PositiveRole40:52

Nico Collins' target upside is diminishing as the Cardinals diversify their passing attack; with Marvin Harrison Jr. becoming more comfortable, Tankdale returning to health, and Dalton Schultz emerging as a factor, Collins is no longer dominating targets back-to-back weeks, limiting his fantasy ceiling.

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Ollie Gordon II

PositiveBreakout70:22

Gordon is a winner going forward; the speaker initially misjudged him as part of a timeshare in a weak offense, but Gordon has emerged as a starter and is helping elevate Miami's offense. He is a legitimate RB2 option for fantasy managers with strong play and a healthy receiving core around him.

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NegativeProjection110:52

Gordon is a winner this week; fantasy managers can start him as a number two running back. He performed well against Minnesota a few weeks ago. Preferred over Tony Pollard in a direct comparison, though upcoming schedule against high-scoring teams (New England, Detroit, Bills) presents a concern. Gordon runs many routes but lacks significant passing-game involvement, which could become problematic if Miami falls behind in games.

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Omar Cooper Jr.

PositiveBreakout26:12

Omar Cooper Jr., a rookie wide receiver, had 5 catches for 115 yards and a touchdown on 5 targets; he was started in 46% of leagues and benefited from Adnan Mitchell being active and Garrett Wilson coming off a bad game.

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Peyton Barber

NegativeRole7:07

Peyton Barber continues to receive occasional high-value touches and goal-line work alongside Chase Brown; while he is not expected to take over the backfield, he remains the more physical back and will continue to be annoying in PPR formats by stealing some of those touchdown opportunities.

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Quinshon Judkins

PositiveMatchup9:09

Quinchon Judkins is positioned to have a strong matchup against Tennessee, which recently lost a good run stopper; Judkins ran all over them in a recent game, suggesting the Bengals' upcoming matchup against Tennessee could be an easy run-game opportunity.

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PositiveBreakout29:08

Judkins was great in his game, started in 63% of leagues, and posted just over 100 total yards with two touchdowns despite playing only 52% of the snaps; this suggests there's room for him to carve out a larger role with the 5-2 Cleveland Browns, who are finding ways to win games and stay competitive; he's basically locked in as an RB2, though it might take two consecutive poor performances against Pittsburgh to reconsider the early investment.

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RJ Harvey

PositiveProjection12:12

RJ Harvey had a 50-yard receiving touchdown in the Broncos' game against the Cardinals, contributing to the Broncos' offensive success and confidence-building performance.

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Sam LaPorta

NegativeBust5:10

Listed as a big loser from Week 7 Panthers game, part of Panthers' across-the-board poor performance.

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Samaje Perine

NegativeRole50:05

Samaj Perine scored a one-yard touchdown run, but the speaker clarifies this does not establish him as the primary goal-line back; the touchdown was an isolated opportunity rather than a role indicator.

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Sean Tucker

NegativeUsage50:17

Sean Tucker saw some goal-line work in the game, though the speaker did not identify him as the primary goal-line back.

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Tee Higgins

PositiveProjection5:00

Higgins was ranked among the top five flex performers in Week 7 with six catches for 140 yards and a touchdown, demonstrating strong production despite a slow start.

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Tony Pollard

PositiveProjection2:24

Pollard was identified as one of the top five flex performers in Week 7, indicating strong weekly production and fantasy relevance.

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PositiveProjection20:40

Tony Pollard had a strong Week 7 performance for the Titans, going 'crazy' according to the broadcast commentary.

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PositiveBreakout28:47

Pollard delivered his first game with more than 13.6 PPR fantasy points despite being started in only 49% of leagues; he carried 25 times with three targets and three catches for 26 yards, totaling 155 yards; the source respects the Cleveland Browns defense and liked what Pollard showed leading into the game, and now with this performance against a competitive Titans team, he's locked in as an RB2.

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PositiveUsage29:44

Pollard recorded 25 carries with 3 targets and 3 catches for 26 yards, totaling 155 yards in Week 7 against Cleveland. The source notes Cleveland has a weak run defense (4.8+ yards per carry allowed in 5 of 7 games), ranking among the five worst in the league. Pollard could have added another touchdown but lost one. If Tennessee continues losing and trades him to a contending team, he could regularly receive ~20 touches and perform at a high level.

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PositiveProjection30:09

The source expresses confidence in Pollard's long-term outlook, stating 'if I've got Pollard on my team, I'm pretty happy long term.' This reflects optimism about his sustained performance and potential trade value.

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NegativeValue111:17

In a direct comparison with Ollie Gordon, Pollard is ranked lower unless he gets traded, which is not an expected outcome. The source prefers Gordon over Pollard in current circumstances.

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Travis Etienne

NegativeInjury50:33

Travis Etienne is currently out, with Kendrick Miller serving as the interim goal-line back until his return.

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NegativeInjury50:35

Travis Etienne is injured and may return; Kendrick Miller is the clear goal line guy for the time being until Etienne comes back, though the speaker expressed uncertainty about the role situation when Etienne does return.

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Trey McBride

PositiveUsage2:45

Hawkinson had five targets in this game and scored a touchdown, making him a candidate for streaming consideration going forward; he was the primary beneficiary of the Cardinals' passing game struggles.

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PositiveProjection4:05

McBride was ranked third among Week 7 flex performers with a big game, demonstrating strong tight end production.

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Tucker Kraft

NegativeUsage23:26

Craft played 57 of 65 snaps and scored an early touchdown; the Rams kept running him back out there to avoid throwing to Tyler Higbee, signaling heavy involvement and red-zone opportunity.

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PositiveUsage24:00

Tucker Craft played 57 of 65 snaps for the Rams in Week 7, indicating significant playing time and role in the offense.

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Tyler Higbee

NegativeRole23:55

The Rams were running Tucker Craft repeatedly to avoid having to throw to Tyler Higbee, suggesting limited offensive role for Higbee.

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Tyrone Tracy

NegativeInjury3:59

Left game in first half and did not return in Week 7. Injury timing coincided with Cam Saquon Barkley's increased workload and snap share.

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NegativeInjury20:47

Tyrone Tracy Jr. suffered an injury in Week 7 but it did not appear to be serious.

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NegativeRole24:23

Tyrone Tracy is a running back option to consider on waivers; mentioned as a potential long-term beneficiary if Scott's hamstring injury is serious.

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Woody Marks

NegativeInjury21:30

Woody Marks left the game in Week 7 but returned, indicating a minor injury concern.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveProjection3:36

Flowers was ranked as the second-best flex performer in Week 7, indicating strong weekly production and fantasy performance.

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1:45That's just gonna go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
1:50Welcome to your Week 7 Recap. It's Sunday night, October 25th.
1:54Counting down the days to Halloween. Very exciting. I love Halloween week.
1:57But before we get to that, let's recap Week 7 and what we saw.
2:02The good, the bad, the hot takes. We have a new segment today, guys.
2:06Listener hot takes. Yeah. All right. I'm glad we found something to fill the extra time we have on Sunday nights.
2:13It's gonna be a quick one. I'm gonna give you guys like a five-minute maximum for this segment.
2:18It's gonna be fun, fast-paced, good old-fashioned fun. Okay, who are the top five flexes for Week 7?
2:24Non-quarterbacks this time. Tony Pollard's gotta be up there.
2:27Non-quarterbacks Pollard is gonna be up there. That one.
2:29Judkins is probably gonna be up there, I would think.
2:33No, he had two touchdowns, almost 100 yards. Zay Flowers?
2:36Zay Flowers is two. Zay Flowers is two. Nice, Heath.
2:39Yeah. He had a good day. Tied for two.
2:42Tied. Probably actually three. Puka? No. Puka would be close.
2:45He had a pretty good game. McBride had a big game.
2:48McBride is three. Let's keep it going. Two wide games.
2:51J-Mo had two touchdowns. I'm not sure I'm the yardage.
2:54J-Mo's four or five. Keep it going. We need one more.
2:58Oh. Oh. Did he score T. Higgins? T. Higgins?
3:01Oh my gosh. Unbelievable. But did he score? That was, I know he had a crazy second half.
3:06Yeah. He didn't score. He did. Six catches, 140 yards and a touchdown.
3:10He did score. So it's Pollard, Flowers, McBride, Higgins, Jamison Williams.
3:14Those are five great players from week seven. Heath, who's the biggest winner today?
3:18The biggest winner of the day was the biggest loser of last week, and that's fantasy football.
3:23Cam Scadaboo got his job back. Played fantastic. Maybe pulled up a little lame on his last run.
3:29Hopefully not. He did. He said he felt his hamstring.
3:32Yeah. But he said, thankfully, we have a bye next week.
3:35Yes. I think he'll be fine. I think he will be.
3:39Listen, it's still a little bit of a three-headed backfield.
3:42All three of the Giants running back scored in this game, but Cam was the clear lead rusher.
3:48Doesn't have the passing game role that we would like, but he's back in that low-end RB2 mix on a weekly basis.
3:54That's great. He was not the only running back that got banged up in the game.
3:59Tyrone Tracy left in the first half, did not come back in.
4:03And the schedule moving forward is not bad for the Giants.
4:06It's Philadelphia, Washington, Jacksville. Okay, I lied. Two of those games are pretty bad.
4:11Indy, San Francisco. Seattle, Cleveland. This is a bad schedule.
4:14This is not an easy thing. You know, I looked at the Philadelphia matchup, and I went, oh, that's not so bad.
4:21And then I just kept on reading, and I was like, oh, I guess I shouldn't have stopped reading.
4:27Well, listen, Dave. Houston's supposed to be a bad matchup, too.
4:30Now, the theory is that the move to J.J.
4:33McCarthy opens up the run game, and that's why they went to him to begin with.
4:38I don't know that Scadaboo was much of a winner before the Tracy injury.
4:42At the time of the injury, they had basically the same amount of touches.
4:47So that's just something to keep in mind. But I do think, yeah, Heath, like, we could have been looking at a
4:53situation where we were dropping Cam Scadaboo. It's nice to know we don't have to do that.
4:59It was 56% of the snaps, both their snaps inside the five.
5:02That was after the Tracy injury for Scadaboo. Okay.
5:05Dave, biggest loser. Same game? We could look at that game and see some big losers.
5:10Nico Collins is definitely on the list with two PPR points.
5:14That's weird. The Panthers, pretty much across the board, are big, huge losers.
5:18Derek Henry, Sam Laporta. I don't know where he went.
5:21I think you can make the case for Nico to be a pretty big loser.
5:25And now people are going to start questioning just how much of a must start he is with Houston having so many
5:32other options and really a step back, I thought, for CJ Stroud against the Giants.
5:37Bad game for the Texans. And what happened to Nico Collins last week?
5:41Travis Hunter followed him around the field. What happened this week?
5:44Deontay Banks shadowed him in a game where the Giants basically played.
5:48I don't know how much they did it, but they played like a box in one where their defense played zone except Deontay Banks.
5:56He played man coverage on Nico Collins for a lot of this game, and it was weird.
6:01And that's not an excuse. Like, you can't be getting shut down two weeks in a row by Travis Hunter and Deontay Banks.
6:08That's 10 targets over his last two games. 2.6 fantasy points today.
6:12It's a bye week. And then at the Chargers at Cleveland, I guess we've got to call him, what, a number two receiver going forward?
6:19Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I think I asked you last week, hey, Nico Collins was drafted at the 2-3 turn.
6:26Where are you drafting him now? And a week ago, we all said, yeah, same, 2-3 turn.
6:31Yeah. I think you can dock him at least a round now.
6:35Okay. And his schedule, you can rate the schedule, Adam, since I'm bad at it tonight.
6:40Chargers, Browns, Colts, Ravens, Steelers. It's fine. I think it's fine.
6:43It's fine. But do we have, you know, what's the deal here?
6:47Is it that they're spreading the ball around too much?
6:50Is it the match of the last two cornerbacks he's faced?
6:53You know, what's the tie? I would say if, like, those are good corners, but those aren't, if those guys are shutting
7:00him down, then a lot of guys are going to shut him down.
7:04All right. Well, we have another loser, and it's an email of the day.
7:09This is not the loser. The emailer is not.
7:11I'll determine that. Email of the day is from?
7:14Eric! And he says, I have a friend who will trade me a five-pound bag of candy corn for Chase Brown.
7:21Should I go for it? Is it PPR? Didn't he get a little dinged up in this game also?
7:27I didn't think he did. I think he got twisted up on a tackle, and he was kind of dominating touches at that point.
7:34And then that was right before P. Ryan scored the touchdown.
7:38I mean, it wasn't a good game, but I don't think this was quite an even split before that happened.
7:44No. And the playing time was heavily in Chase Brown's favor.
7:47Two of three snaps inside the five. You know which snap he was not on.
7:52And what happened on that based on the box score?
7:55They both played six of 10 snaps on third down.
7:58I don't think there's going to be a P.
8:01Ryan takeover here, but there's still going to be a lot of P.
8:05Ryan being annoying, occasionally getting some of those high value touches, certainly is the more physical back.
8:10And there really wasn't a lot of evidence of Chase Brown's explosiveness.
8:14And I know that the Bengals are trying to get that out there and find ways to get it moving.
8:20The space where that offensive line made improvement is in pass protection in the second half because Joe Burrow had all day.
8:27They need to find something in the run blocking that can help unlock Chase Brown a little bit.
8:33Jamie, did you think this was a good day or a bad day for Chase Brown?
8:37Because on one hand, production was bad. 11 carries 39 yards, but four catches 19 yards.
8:42On the other hand, he dominated, as we just said, he dominated touches and snaps and all that stuff.
8:48So how do we look at this game for Chase Brown?
8:52Bad. I mean, look, you don't walk away from a performance from a first or second round pick that was unproductive and say, oh, that was good.
9:00So I know, I mean, it's encouraging that he didn't lose work, but it's not encouraging that he was unproductive.
9:06One more time, Adam. Tennessee, Atlanta. That's in Spain, I believe.
9:10Pittsburgh and then Washington. Those are the next four games for the Bengals.
9:14I mean, look, Tennessee might be an easy matchup, right?
9:17They get rid of a good run stopper and then Quinchon Judkins runs all over them.
9:22Atlanta. I think they're like a decent run defense.
9:25Pittsburgh and Washington are very good run defenses. Matchups shouldn't matter, really, for Chase Brown.
9:29And yet they are. I don't think that they're not a good run offense.
9:34Right. And so I think it's more that he needs to play in games where the other offense is pushing them so he gets more catches.
9:42So in watching the game, it felt as if they were trying to force...
9:46Themselves to run the ball in the first half.
9:49And then it was just throw the ball the second half.
9:52And again, you know, watching games with Pete Prisco, Rand Carthorn, you know, some pretty knowledgeable football.
9:58Pete just said, they should just go a whole game without just running it at all.
10:03Like, just don't even try. Yeah, they stink at it.
10:06All right. Well, Joe Burrow had, what, four touchdown passes in the second half.
10:10And I would love to see the time. I mean, they only had the ball for 25 minutes.
10:16They didn't run a lot of plays. The first half was a joke.
10:20But anyway, those are some of our winners and losers.
10:23Sunday. I want to talk to you about Sunday because we're having a great time with these Sunday morning Q&As.
10:29And we, you know, we either, depending on whether or not there's a Europe game, alters our schedule.
10:35When there is one, we're live at 8.30 a.m.
10:37until 9.30 a.m. and then again, 12.15 to 1.
10:40But next week, there is no game in Europe.
10:43So it's probably, it's either going to be 11 to 1 or like 11.30 to 1.
10:48We'll figure that out. But we'll be back to our normal schedule there.
10:52But join us to get your questions, answers on Sunday morning.
10:55At youtube.com slash fantasy football today. Okay. Ready for some hot takes from the audience.
11:00We've got five minutes on the clock. And your reaction to these hot takes.
11:05This one is from Nick Drum. Josh Jacobs owns the Green Bay backfield and will be a top 12 running back rest of season.
11:12Is this believe it or not? Or buy it?
11:15Buy sell? Yeah, just your thoughts. Just, you know.
11:18Yes. Yes. Dave, you don't think it'll be top 12 rest of season?
11:22Uh, it's going to be close. Okay. Uh, he did.
11:25Josh Jacobs or Chase Brown rest of season? Jacobs.
11:28Yeah. Jacob. I think if you're going to say the other guy other than Jacobs, you have to feel pretty confident in
11:34the tape because there is a chance that, that he gets suspended.
11:38Always. Please remember that everyone with Josh Jacobs. Uh, Ben Mizerra says, oh, it's becoming difficult to start Chase Brown on a weekly basis.
11:46We agree with that. Yes. Yes. Yep. I'll probably start him next week.
11:50Next week's Tennessee, we said? Yeah. Mm-hmm. It is.
11:52From CJ, hot take. Texans defense sucks. Yes. Yeah.
11:55Yes. I don't agree. Sucks is too far, but they don't really matter.
11:59Apparently not. JJ McCarty looked awesome. He really did.
12:02Kind of crazy. Yeah. Yeah. From Jacobs. The Dolphins won the Jalen Waddle trade.
12:06Yes. Yes. Yes. This was the best game for the Denver offense.
12:10And in the game, Jalen Waddle only had so many targets, didn't have any huge plays, and then hurt his shoulder.
12:17What do you think it was that the Broncos really figured out this week, Dave?
12:21They were able to run the ball a little bit better.
12:25That's it. I think Jamie's right. Sure. And the Cardinals couldn't get pressure on Bo.
12:29I mean, they got like a 60-yard rush touchdown to Bo Nix.
12:33Yeah. They were playing man-to-man. And a 50-yard receiving touchdown to RJ Harvey.
12:37Yeah. That was great. It's a bad combination. You know, at bare minimum, they've built some confidence, Heath.
12:43And Bo Nix could use that. By the way, Heath, we started Brock Purdy over Malik Willis and Bo Nix, basically.
12:49I mean, we should have sat Bo Nix. So did everybody.
12:53Jacob Williams. Oh, no. He just read his. TM42 says, Cam Ward is the worst bust since Jamarcus Russell.
12:59No, there's been worse ones since. No. Since Jamarcus Russell?
13:02Josh Rosen? Josh Rosen was pretty huge. Paxton Lynch.
13:04But these guys weren't number one overall. I would just remind everyone that at this point in Bryce Young's career, where Cam
13:11Ward is, Bryce Young was on the bench for Andy Dalton.
13:15So it's not over yet. But God, it looks bad for Cam Ward.
13:19Oh, here's what I get to play the music here.
13:22Hot take from Dark Link. He says, Coleman is taking over in Denver.
13:26I don't think that's a hot take. I don't.
13:29I think Coleman will take over in Denver. I will.
13:32I would still expect J.K. Dobbins to be their lead running back in the near future.
13:37Yeah. Good luck trying to figure out which one to use.
13:40Right. You got to wait a little bit for things to shake out.
13:44But Sean Payton, after the game, was ecstatic over how Coleman played and said he wants to get him more touches.
13:51Caleb says, Blake Corum is better than Kyron Williams.
13:54No. No. No. He's going to look better four weeks out of the year.
13:58This might have been one of them, but he's not at all.
14:02Bill Van Sickle says, Malik Neighbors is a top three receiver rest of season.
14:06You buying that yet, Adam? No. Top three? No.
14:09You buying top five yet? Maybe. He's up there.
14:12But I still, what I said last week, Drake London over Neighbors said, you know, London's got better this week.
14:18Barely. Barely. Yeah, I would still take JSN. I would still take Puka.
14:22I would still take Amon Ross St. Brown. Jamar Chase?
14:25I would still take Jamar Chase. CeeDee Lamb? No.
14:28I would. I would. I would still take Zay Flowers, obviously.
14:31I would. And Drake London. Okay. From Sky, Derek Henry is officially washed.
14:35No. Oh, dude. I think any time he stops and starts his feet, you could, I don't know what you could do.
14:42Count to five. Off the line was really bad.
14:45Yeah. They took on another injury on top of it.
14:48That was problematic. But it all adds up to where if he's not getting a lane to run through, he's going to get hit.
14:55Here comes Buffalo. And Lamar, hopefully. Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully that up.
14:59Lamar's playing next week. I think so, too. Lamar's playing.
15:02DJ Moore's playing next week. Mecca Buka's playing next week.
15:05I looked at it. Wow. I looked at it.
15:08I went through his game log twice. I think this is the first time in Derek Henry's career that he has gone
15:15six straight games in the same season without averaging more than 4.3 yards per carry in any one of those games.
15:21So he's not washed, but what is it when he's no longer one of the best rushers in the NFL, I don't think.
15:28He's still, like, he lost a step. Maybe he lost a step and a half.
15:33He still has a lot of steps on most of the running backs.
15:37Would you rather have Derek Henry or Jalen Warren rest of season?
15:41That's a good one. Still Henry. Unless Rico's hurt.
15:44Probably. The way that Warren played today, it's an easy call for Warren.
15:48I just don't know if he's going to play like that every time.
15:52That's why we have to. And I know that Derek Henry at some point, Lamar back, line gets figured out.
15:58So? I don't know that they can figure that line out.
16:01Oh, man. All right. A few more here from Dan.
16:04Hot take. For just 75 cents a day, you can help the best male podcast.
16:09Oh, by the way. What? What happened? We're at five minutes and 45 cents.
16:13Okay, fine. I'm just going to read the last two then.
16:17From Naptime takes. Zay Flowers is so good, you shouldn't be able to shave from now until the draft.
16:23And from Jesse. Dan Campbell is a good tactical coach.
16:26Really bothers me that the Lions won. They did not deserve to win with that nonsense.
16:31This is the worst game I've ever seen. Bad game.
16:34Ever? Both teams and the refs were atrocious. The refs were awful.
16:38The red zone decisions were terrible. Well, Jameer Gibbs taking a knee was terrible.
16:42And almost like destroying his leg in the process.
16:45Yeah. Not throwing to Sam Laporta on National Tight End Day.
16:48Yeah. No good. Okay. We're going to take a break.
16:51We'll give you the news and notes. Not a ton of them, thankfully.
16:55And we'll do some more winners and losers. We'll go through the early waiver wire, the goal line work, the almost touchdowns,
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20:14Get started today. Welcome back, folks. News and notes.
20:17Just wanted to note that the Titans, I was watching Red Zone, happened to catch this little snippet.
20:22The broadcaster said the Titans have been in no huddle a lot today, and it seemed to be helping Cam Ward.
20:29They ran 18 no huddle snaps. That was more than anyone at that point in the day.
20:34That was before the 4 o'clock game started, but maybe they're trying something a little bit different here.
20:40Certainly helped that Tony Pollard went crazy today. At running back, both Giants, two Giants running backs got hurt, Tyrone Tracy Jr.
20:47and Cam Scadaboo. Tracy's apparently didn't seem to be too serious.
20:50Scadaboo was the last play, second to last play of the game, his last play, and he said he felt something in his hamstring.
20:58He said, thankfully, we have a bye next week.
21:00Jameer Gibbs, Dan Campbell said he should be fine.
21:03Woody Marks left but came back. Aaron Jones left.
21:06Remember, he's been playing with a sprained knee ligament.
21:09MCL? PCL? MCL. MCL. So he did hurt his knee.
21:12We got to keep an eye on that one for Aaron Jones.
21:16Boy, I am nervous about just even previewing the Detroit-Minnesota game.
21:19Like, I don't even know. That's going to be a lot of tough calls in that game.
21:24Um, Jalen Wright left in the fourth quarter for the Dolphins and CJ Donaldson left early for the Saints.
21:30Uh, they go into their bye and hopefully get Travis A.
21:34Chan back in week nine. Why? He'll solve all their running problems.
21:37Yeah. Well, I mean, I said it on the Sunday morning show, but it just unbelievable.
21:42The stat line there was Tyler Shuck led the team with seven rushing yards, followed by Kendry Miller's six rushing yards, followed by Alvin Kamara's five rushing yards.
21:51Uh, Jalen Waddle, it was either an arm or a shoulder.
21:54It was late in the game. Carnell Tate left but returned.
21:58Jalen Noel hurt his toe and he's got a bye in week eight.
22:02Uh, RJ White said it was turf toe. Yeah, I read that it was turf toe too and sent it to the host of the show.
22:10You sent me that? Yes. Sorry. In a walking boot.
22:13I saw the walking boot thing. I didn't see the turf toe thing.
22:17Okay. You didn't even say the walking boot thing.
22:20Well, I mean, guys are in walking boots like literally all the time.
22:24They sleep in them. If I, if I had a player that was in a walking boot after the game, that's information I would want to know Adam.
22:33If Adam had a walking boot, it'd have a hole in it.
22:36It would. They all do. They have a hole at the front.
22:40Uh, it was bad news by the way. Uh, my socks came today and I got the wrong size.
22:46So I got to go a little bigger. Uh, and on the offensive line, Carolina writes how he was asleep.
22:52Then Taylor Moten, he was going to go through his garbage and find the old socks.
22:57All right. Taylor Moten for the Panthers. He broke his leg and he's going to miss a lot of time.
23:03Uh, Venga Yohane, the rookie offensive guard for the Ravens left in the first half.
23:08Did you say Tucker craft? No, he got hurt.
23:11He was hurt during the game. I didn't see whether he returned.
23:15Oh, I thought I saw him in there late.
23:17I'm sorry, but also I, he may have returned.
23:20I wasn't sure. Colby Parkinson got very beat up in this.
23:24He was in and out all game long. Parkinson.
23:26Yeah. I'm going to put Tucker craft. They just had to keep running him back out there to make sure they didn't have to throw to Tyler Higbee.
23:35I'll look up crafts last nap. Okay. And I'll leave it at that.
23:39Uh, let's go to the early waiver wire here.
23:42Oh dude, he played 57 of 65 snaps. All right.
23:45Tucker craft. He came through with an early touchdown.
23:48Jamie, anyone come to mind for early waiver wire?
23:51Gino Smith and Michael Penix. Uh, Smith gets the jets this week and Penix or the Raiders.
23:56Um, Gino Smith does not get the jets this week.
23:59Gets the Raiders. Excuse me. Um, and, uh, Penix, not an easy matchup against Tampa Bay, but he's played well now back to back games.
24:07Okay. Tampa Bay is like, I think they might be a terrible matchup.
24:11Yeah. Right. Wow. He's playing well. So, um, just someone to consider, uh, bone X if you want, but they get the chiefs.
24:18That's not going to be easy. I think there's several running back situations to look at.
24:23You mentioned the giants injury. So it could be Devin Singletary.
24:26If you want to just get ahead of the bi-week, it could be Tyrone Tracy.
24:31If this is going to be a long-term injury for Scott, a bit with the hamstring, it might not be any of them.
24:38So just keep that in mind. Um, I think if you looked at it and you saw what, uh, transpired for part
24:45of the game, you better make sure Klon Black is rostered because Christian McCaffrey, uh, sat for a little bit.
24:51And we know what that could mean. If there's anything that lingers there, he seems to be fine, but still, uh, just
24:58in terms of handcuffing it, uh, Zonovan night, just in case there's still a lingering absence for Jeremiah love.
25:04He's the better of the two running backs there for the Cardinals should have had a touchdown drop one in the end zone.
25:11Um, Jonah Coleman obviously should be rostered in many more leagues than he is right now.
25:16Uh, wide receiver is, uh, I'm sorry. Casey. Yeah.
25:19Concepcion for sure is, uh, probably gonna leave the column.
25:22Another rookie for the third straight week. Um, trying to think of anybody else receiver wise.
25:27That's widely available. Caleb Douglas. Yeah. Douglas is going, um, three catches, right?
25:31You know, not a crazy amount of targets. No, but two touchdowns and just, you know, you see the explosive.
25:37Yeah. Okay. We'll get into more. Yeah. We'll have for you.
25:41We'll have a little preview on Monday and then the full show twice on Tuesday.
25:45Once on, uh, our podcast and then one on CBS sports network.
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26:12Jamie, Omar Cooper, Jr. Five targets. He caught all of them for 115 yards and a touchdown.
26:17He was started in 46% of leagues. That's almost about the amount of leagues that Casey Concepcion is rostered in.
26:23He's 50% rostered. He had eight for 129 on 10 targets.
26:27I think you said something earlier in the week, maybe the week before, I don't know.
26:32You said like, it feels like a big game is coming and here it was for Casey Concepcion.
26:37So Cooper and Concepcion. Yeah, great to see for both these guys.
26:41I think for Cooper, just, you know, the fact that Adnan Mitchell was active and Garrett Wilson was coming off a bad game.
26:48We may have a Garrett Wilson problem. You know, if this is going to be, you know, these other guys.
26:54Garrett Wilson has a Geno Smith problem. I'm sorry, what?
26:57Garrett Wilson has a problem with Geno Smith. Yeah.
27:00Yeah, you know, I don't know how much of that was not enough targets or if that was just a particular play.
27:07They got into a heated argument on the sidelines.
27:10So we'll see what happens moving forward. Maybe there's a squeaky wheel game coming.
27:14Again, good matchup coming up against the Raiders. But for Cooper, you know, I don't think you have to worry about Adnan
27:21Mitchell to the point of not considering him in the starting conversation, especially with four teams on a bye and still the injuries at the position.
27:29For Concepcion, you know, the targets had been there for him.
27:33We just had not seen him have this breakout game.
27:36And here it comes. And I think the thing that's encouraging, if you're just looking at the entire picture of the Browns
27:42offense, it was still nine targets for Denzel Boston and I think eight targets for Harold Fenn.
27:48And I might get that confused, but eight plus for all three of them.
27:52And so the fact that they're all potentially going to be involved, they're not all going to produce.
27:58Boston was, you know, the disappointment today. But if they're all getting chances, you like that for these guys.
28:04So I think Concepcion now moves into the starting conversation in three or zero leagues because, again, the targets had been there
28:10for him aside from the game where he left the concussion.
28:14It's been basically six plus. So just, you know, continuing to see strong performances from these guys as they as we always
28:21say, they get better usually as the season goes on.
28:24And so we're hitting that point in the season where you'd like to see the jumping off point for maybe some more just consistent numbers.
28:32Season high and pass attempts for Deshaun Watson, but not by much.
28:35He had 36. He's been at 33 a couple of times.
28:39So it wasn't like a crazy pass volume game, but 36 was still a lot for him.
28:44All right, let's go to Dave's winners. Tony Pollard, man.
28:47First game with more than 13.6 PPR fantasy points started in only 49% of leagues.
28:52Quinshawn Judkins started in 63% of leagues and he was great today.
28:56And so it's Pollard and Judkins for you. Just over 100 total yards, two touchdowns.
29:00And he only played, this is Judkins, and he only played 52% of the snaps.
29:05So there could be some opportunity for him to carve out a little bit of a larger role for the five and two Cleveland Browns.
29:13This is a team that's finding ways to win games, stay in games.
29:17They're not getting blown out. It's the Steelers, the Saints, and the Texans in their next three games.
29:22I think as far as RB2s go, he's basically locked in.
29:26And maybe that changes if he has a stinker against Pittsburgh.
29:29I think it might take two games of him having a stinker for me to back off and say, okay, maybe we rushed into Quinshawn Judkins.
29:37With Pollard, I respect the Cleveland Browns defense. And I really like what I've been seeing from Pollard leading up to this game.
29:44And then obviously he goes out there. This is a game where the Titans are competitive.
29:49And they've been competitive in a bunch of their games this year.
29:53And now here he is with 25 carries. He also had three targets, three catches for 26 yards.
29:59So over almost 150, no, 155 total yards. Thank you.
30:02My math is good. I didn't need Heath's help.
30:05And now more importantly than that, if Tennessee keeps losing, they might trade Pollard.
30:09Pollard could end up in a situation where he's on a contending team and he's going to regularly get in the neighborhood of 20 touches.
30:17And he'll be good because he showed us today that he can be good.
30:21So if I've got Pollard on my team, I'm pretty happy long term.
30:25Can I claim Judkins for Wednesdays? So high, please.
30:28Can I claim Pollard? Yeah. But no, that doesn't mean they're not winners.
30:32It's just. Oh, great. No, totally. But I think the one thing like Dave made a great case during the week about
30:39Judkins as a starting fantasy running back. But correct me if I'm wrong.
30:43The case you made was because of his involvement in the passing game.
30:47Right. And I pushed back on it a little bit just because Dylan Samson was going to be active.
30:53And I thought that was where Samson was going to get used.
30:56And that's what we saw today. So I think the fact that Judkins did what he did mostly with his rushing, we just haven't seen that.
31:05And as you alluded to, Adam, briefly, is that the Titans had a change in their defensive line.
31:10And so a good run defense went to a very mediocre one, at least based on what we saw today.
31:16And so I think we could see a situation where Judkins going up against the Steelers next week.
31:22It's not going to be this. I think we're giving Elliott a little too much credit.
31:27Who? Oh, Tennessee. Tennessee, the defensive lineman for Tennessee.
31:30If I could just say, I didn't disagree with anything you said about these two guys.
31:35How could you not? You know, look, you've got a lot.
31:38Right. Sure. If you can turn them into a better starter that you know you're going to feel great about using, then of course, by all means.
31:46The only thing I did disagree with you on.
31:49And in fact, their values went up today. Yeah.
31:52The only thing I did disagree with you on was that Cleveland actually has a pretty bad run defense.
31:58Just in terms of one metric, which is yards per carry allowed to running backs going into this game.
32:04It was Panthers, Raiders, Saints, Giants, Browns as the five worst.
32:07So that is their one Achilles heel. They're not good against the run.
32:11So was it based on is that a consistent thing every game?
32:15Because I know that they got busted up by, I think, Pittsburgh a few weeks ago.
32:20You know, look, we can go back, but I don't know if it's every game, but that's been their weakness defensively.
32:27But and look, Pollard could have had another touchdown.
32:29He lost one. Right. He lost one. Tajay Spears didn't play today.
32:33So that that helped probably the receptions, maybe a little bit.
32:37He had three receptions, but Pollard, like Pollard. No, they use Michael Carter in the Tajay role.
32:42He gets a ton of work. It's just like, you know, unfortunately, like I have powered in a league and I'm annoyed
32:49because I haven't started him all year. And I'm never going to get this performance again.
32:54And to your point on the Browns, like at least 4.8 yards per carry allowed to running backs in five of seven games.
33:01So this was obviously his best game. But all three of his like quality games have been when he's been two receptions or more.
33:08So it's almost like and I know he runs routes on or he runs routes and doesn't get opportunities.
33:14So he's been used. But it's just very clear.
33:17Like when they use him in all facets of the game, he's much more productive.
33:22Yeah. All right. And let's get to Heath's winners.
33:24Cam Scadaboo, who we talked about and Bucky Irving.
33:2792% started 24 carries, 106 yards, two touchdowns, one catch for four yards, only 11 pass attempts for Baker Mayfield.
33:33Yeah, I think that was kind of the thing I wanted to say first off.
33:38And we said it earlier in the week, like he's been awesome as a rusher.
33:43Bucky has. And I still think with Baker back, we're probably going to see five catches a lot more often than we see one catch.
33:50This is just a game where Baker didn't have to throw it because the Panthers were a complete disaster.
33:56But I think I think Bucky's a top 12 running back.
34:00I'd rather have him than Chase Brown. I'd rather have him than Josh Jacobs.
34:04Cool. All right. And losers. Heath had. Yeah, we got to talk about the Panthers.
34:09I can't believe we've gone a half hour. I haven't talked about them.
34:13Bryce Young, 14 of 27, 163 yards, one touchdown, two picks for 7.4 fantasy points.
34:18They got blown out in this game against Bucky Irving's Buccaneers.
34:21Tampa Bay, 43, Carolina 13. So you have Bryce Young as a loser and Sam Laporta, who had one catch for 18
34:28yards on two targets on National Tight Ends Day.
34:31Yeah, the Bryce thing's weird because it was obvious today that the pressure really bothered him.
34:36And a lot more of the pressure is turned into sacks than they have throughout the year.
34:41It wasn't the offensive line injury because he was getting sacked and pressured and harassed from the very get-go in this game.
34:48He has a 44% pressure rate, which is well above average.
34:51And he's getting pressured in like 2.5 seconds, which is faster than average.
34:55But every, like half of the games, he still has a high pressure rate.
34:59It doesn't really seem to bother him. And he has a good game.
35:04So it's clear that if a defense can get in his head early and get to him early, it's having an impact
35:10on how he plays, which isn't that abnormal for a maybe slightly above average quarterback.
35:15You have to feel nervous. The Laporta thing, like I saw some people joking about this is what he gets for talking about his contract.
35:23And I hope that the Lions are not petty enough to do that.
35:27But what I worry about is they had the bye week and they come out of the bye week and it was
35:34everything they could do to get the ball to Jamison Williams.
35:37And I think it was about the bye week last year when Dan Campbell inserted himself in the conversation and wanted to
35:44get the ball to Jamison Williams more. So you're still probably, you're going to start Sam Laporta again next week.
35:50He's still a top six tight end for the year after this complete dud.
35:54But I'm at least a little bit nervous that they're making another move towards more Jamison Williams.
36:00Yeah, it's a good point. And it is exactly, I think, yeah, you're right.
36:04The bye week each of the last two seasons now.
36:07We'll see if this continues. Okay. Love, by the way.
36:10Love, absolutely love. He's trying to reverse mush this by sending Sam Laporta as a loser after the first quarter.
36:17Yeah. I will neither confirm nor deny that was my intention.
36:20Just to put it out there, Laporta played all but two snaps in the game.
36:25So that makes it even more sus. I do think that it's a little bit of a different situation this year compared to last year.
36:32Lions were really unhappy with their play calling going into the bye.
36:36Campbell took over after that. I think they like what they're doing with Drew Petsing.
36:41And Drew Petsing knew kind of a lot of the schematics that he was going up against because he worked with Jonathan Gannon for years in Arizona.
36:49And Gannon's the defensive coordinator now for the Packers.
36:52And so maybe he just figured that this was a better game for J-Mo to get targets and to get utilized rather than Laporta.
36:59It would be hard, and I don't know if there's a stat for this to find somewhere.
37:05Because Laporta did run routes on a lot of plays.
37:08Yeah. But he was blocking beforehand on a very high percentage of those.
37:12And Gannon and the Packers the last few weeks have just been sending a bunch of guys to the line of scrimmage and getting after the quarterback.
37:20And it kind of seemed like the plan was, you know, if we use Laporta to chip, they can't cover both Amunra and Jamison for long enough.
37:29And with these guys all at the line of scrimmage.
37:32It's a good thought. Unfortunately, if that was the plan, it's quite likely to be the plan against Minnesota also.
37:38Just something to keep in mind also. The Packers are top five in fewest fantasy points allowed to the position.
37:44And this is who they've shut down so far this season.
37:48It was Kyle Pitts in the first game with Penix.
37:51We've seen what that's looked like since then. Loveland in week five.
37:54So that was no Caleb, right? Yeah. No Caleb.
37:57And then last week, Jake Ferguson for what that's worth.
38:00So they've done a really good job on tight ends so far this season.
38:05Okay. Also, I want to share a quote from the Carolina game.
38:08It was from Yaya Diaby. He had three sacks for the Bucs today, three of their five.
38:14And he said, it's just that we know this Carolina offense so well.
38:18They know us and we know them. So we just came with a game plan and attacked.
38:23We just got after Bryce and tried to take away his first read and just be aggressive.
38:28It's pretty interesting kind of candid quote there. All right.
38:31Losers from Dave. Kind of talked about him. Garrett Wilson with his four PPR points.
38:36The only thing I'll add to what we've already said is look at his schedule from week 14 on.
38:42Again, it's Denver. And then after that, Arizona, that's a good one.
38:46New England and Minnesota. Minnesota in the fantasy championship.
38:49And Christian Gonzalez, who just shut him down last week in the finals.
38:53So this is you almost want to wait for Garrett Wilson to have a good game and then try and flip them for whatever you can.
39:01And you might get the good game next week.
39:03It's not a terrible matchup for the Jets next week.
39:07So I think let me ask you this. Who are you more concerned about?
39:11Because they have basically the same thing going on right now.
39:14Nico Collins or Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson. Yep. Why?
39:17Because I think the threats to his treasure chest of targets is legit.
39:21The receivers that they have, Brees Hall coming back.
39:24Again, discussed earlier in the show. I was just going to say we have a longer track record of Nico being elite than we do Garrett Wilson.
39:32Yep. And I'm not ready to say that CJ Stroud's turned back into a pumpkin just because he didn't have a great game this week.
39:40Nine targets in two games for Garrett Wilson is kind of crapola though.
39:44So not feeling near as smart about my CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, super flex strategy.
39:49One week, one week. Right. So far. I think it's the same.
39:53It's a great question for Nico and Wilson because you're seeing other players around them develop.
39:58And so you can make the case obviously CJ Stroud's a more competent quarterback than Geno Smith.
40:03But at the same time, Geno Smith's probably going to throw a few more passes most games than CJ Stroud.
40:09So there might be a few more opportunities. They're probably going to be chasing points more often than not.
40:15So that should lead to the Jets throwing a little bit more.
40:19So I think it's pros and cons for both.
40:21But they're both in a little bit of a bad situation right now.
40:26It's one of the reasons I gave you Nico as a loser for this week is that tanked out plays.
40:32Marvin Harrison's there. Maybe the Jalen Noel toe injury is going to be a benefit to them.
40:37But they're going to their bias. So we'll see what happens.
40:40But part of the reason why we've always loved Nico Collins has been him and maybe something else.
40:46You know, now there's well, there is something else.
40:49And so we'll see just how much that matters.
40:52But I would imagine Marvin Harrison's only going to get more comfortable.
40:55Tankdale's only going to get more comfortable and healthier.
40:58And so it just may not be Nico dominating targets.
41:01There's going to be those games. But, you know, we've now seen it back to back weeks with just Marvin Harrison.
41:08And, you know, they're using Hutchinson here and there.
41:11Dalton Schultz has been, you know, a factor clearly.
41:13And it's just the upside is not there for Nico right now.
41:17I would add one key difference between the two is that the Texans still can't run the ball.
41:23And so as long as that's the case, you don't have to worry about them having games where, oh, they're just going to run down.
41:30Sure. But everybody's a bad run defense. And that'll be the end of that.
41:35Again, the counter stat would be as bad as the Texans defense has looked.
41:39That's a much better defense than the Jets. And the Jets are going to be in more shootout situations.
41:45So I think we get more target opportunities for Garrett Wilson when things are right for him.
41:50All right, fellas. We're going to take a break and get to Jamie's losers.
41:55One was Nico Collins that we discussed earlier. And the other is the Vikings.
41:59Horrible performance offensively for them with the Colts in town.
42:02And they do get the win. They go to 6-0.
42:05But it wasn't pretty. And what does it mean for Justin Jefferson?
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44:32Jamie, you want to talk about the Minnesota Vikings as a loser this week?
44:37Yeah, I mean, look, give the Colts credit. Their defense played, I think, better than at least I expected.
44:43But, you know, coming off the bye week, mostly it's the passing game.
44:47Because, look, Jordan Mason is going to do these type – he's going to have these type of games.
44:53He's not going to catch – he's not going to be involved in a passing game.
44:57We'll see what happens with Aaron Jones. But they'll find somebody else, I think, to share touches with him, whereas Clay Bourne or DJ Dallas or whoever.
45:06It's – Mason is what he is. He's, to me, a definition of a trap back.
45:11You're going to have Kyler Murray. The positive is 39 rushing yards, so it's now back-to-back games with, you know, basically he's
45:18averaging 40 yards per game on the ground. That's awesome.
45:21His career average coming into the season was 36.
45:24So you like that at least. You know, it's a little bit of a safe floor.
45:29It's just what we saw from the passing game here against a defense that had been pretty bad at stopping passing games.
45:35No sauce Gardner on the field. I was hoping to see not necessarily like a 350-yard game from Kyler Murray, but, you
45:42know, maybe 250, we get 150, and it's bad for everybody but Hawkinson, and Hawkinson only benefits because he scored the touchdown.
45:49So I'm hopeful going into next week as they play Detroit.
45:52Most teams have had success against Detroit. Green Bay not so much this week.
45:57But if we have to see Kyler get these guys involved, can they be successful?
46:02So it's almost to the point where – I shouldn't say it's to the point.
46:06It's coming off this game with the intent of I'm not going to start Jordan Addison.
46:11Hawkinson is going to be in the streaming conversation.
46:14And Justin Jefferson, I think you just have to treat him as a number two, high-end number two receiver.
46:20We could list a bunch of guys. I'm sure, though, we would all feel comfortable starting over Jefferson right now.
46:26But the one good game that he's had with Kyler, it was when nobody else was there.
46:31Yeah, but it's not like the other guys did a lot today.
46:35It's just that Kyler was terrible. I mean, he threw for 150 yards.
46:39Hawkinson had five targets, but Addison only had three.
46:42So what is that, seven targets on 24 pass attempts.
46:45That's a very good – that's a pretty good target.
46:48It's not great. Oh, no, it's a great target share.
46:51What the hell am I talking about? But, yeah, this is, I think, a concern that everybody had about Justin Jefferson.
46:58It's like Kyler Murray runs a lot. So he had only five carries, but 39 yards, and then he only threw 24 passes.
47:05He had one big run, Kyler. Yeah, he had a 35-yard run of his 39.
47:10I don't know. I mean, I feel like Jefferson's still a top 12 receiver.
47:14Can we name 12 guys we'd rather have than Jefferson?
47:17Yes. I'd be willing to try. I mean, we named like eight before with the Malik Naverst conversation.
47:23Yeah, that's where it gets difficult after that. Yeah, JSN, Puka, Chase, Lamb, St.
47:27Brown, Neighbors, Flowers, Olave. Yeah, London. London. That's nine.
47:30This is where it gets rough. And you got the Packers guys.
47:33You got Luther Burden. Yep, yep, yep. No, I'm not taking Luther Burden over Justin Jefferson.
47:38Jamie, we will make the bet you can name the terms.
47:42Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I mean – I can't get a haircut for a month.
47:47Ted Rowe, McMillan, like – He's going to look like the caveman.
47:50Bro, one good game. For three months. One good game from Justin Jefferson next week against the Detroit Lions, and everybody's going to be just fine with it.
47:59Yeah, again, that's why I was on the fence.
48:02Like, he's in the top 12 conversations still, but it's not encouraging.
48:06Yeah, right. Now, we're hoping he's in the top six conversation, and right now it doesn't look that way.
48:11Also, yeah, somebody asked if – I don't – you really think Jordan Mason is a trap back?
48:17Yeah, I was going to just – I'm not going to push back hard on it, but especially if Aaron Jones is
48:24out, like, that's who's going to be working near the goal line.
48:28He's not going to catch passes, though. That's fine.
48:30That just means he's not going to be in a bunch of passing downs.
48:35That doesn't mean he's a trap back. Right. He's going to work.
48:38He's not – I don't want to sit here and say that I love Jordan Mason and you should go and trade
48:45for him, but I think he'll get his fair share of short yardage touchdowns.
48:50I think he's going to be awesome if Aaron Jones, who's been playing with a knee injury since week two and re-aggravated
48:56it – it seems that it's a re-aggravation, but regardless, he has a knee injury.
49:01If he's hurt, I think Jordan Mason is going to be great.
49:05He was very good last year. He averaged just shy of 13 PPR points per game in the games that Jones missed.
49:12He's got his core touchdowns. Yeah, I probably should have said great.
49:15That's fair. Yeah, you're good. When you say great, you mean – We're about landing in the same place now.
49:22Yeah, he's going to be good. He'll hover around RB20 for the time that Jones misses if he's out.
49:28Yeah, you're going to want to have him on your team.
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50:01W-H-O-O-P. Whoop. Didn't really see a ton of super interesting goal line stuff.
50:05It was disappointing that Samaj P. Ryan got the one-yard touchdown run.
50:09It doesn't mean he's the goal line back. You're going to see, like Jordan Mason was in goal to go, but they weren't at the goal line today.
50:17There was some Sean Tucker, but a lot of Bucky Irving near the goal line.
50:22Kalon Black got a goal line carry, and he got stuffed, and I said, you had your chance, bud.
50:28But then McCaffrey got hurt, came back in, and he had a long touchdown run.
50:33Kalon Black. Yeah, I don't know. Nothing really changed.
50:35Kendrick Miller, for the time being, until Travis HN is back, is the clear goal line guy, and I don't know what
50:42the deal is going to be when HN does come back.
50:46A lot of almost touchdowns today. Jameer Gibbs. I'm not going to really give Jameer Gibbs the almost touchdown thing because they
50:52were letting him score, so I think they kind of cancel each other out.
50:57He didn't deserve the touchdown is what I'm saying.
51:00It's probably very close to my least favorite non-injury part of football.
51:03Is what? The sliding inside. I know the math works, but it's just one of those things where analytics makes the game less fun.
51:11But he screwed it up, though, because they had a first down.
51:14If he just goes two more yards, he gets a first down.
51:18He got the first down. No, he got it eventually.
51:21Oh, the second time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he got the first down when he slid the second time.
51:27Twice they tried to let him. I don't think we can call that a slide.
51:32Basically letting him go, he stopped short. He stopped short!
51:35That's my move! I stopped short. There was such an incredible sequence toward the, I think it was the end of the
51:42first half of the Saints game, where like Kamara almost caught a touchdown, and then Shuck ran, tried to run for one,
51:49and he fumbled out of bounds, and then Shuck didn't get in on a tush push, and then Kendrick Miller fumbled at
51:56the one, but he was ruled down, and then Shuck threw a touchdown pass to Devon Vele.
52:01It was crazy. All right, anyway, speaking of that game, which I actually thought was a good game until the second half
52:08was pretty crappy, but Pittsburgh 16, New Orleans 10.
52:10This is a good game. It was awful. It was not a good game.
52:15That's what everybody said. It was a terrible game.
52:18It was not even a top five game this week.
52:21The first half was good. What are you talking about?
52:24What's, what are you, you said that, that Jeremy Bernard was going to be good, I think, probably.
52:29We all did. What are you talking about? What happened here with the Pittsburgh passing game, Heath?
52:35That's part of the reason it wasn't a good game.
52:38Nobody was, like, Jalen Warren was awesome. Yeah. Yeah.
52:41Everything else sucked. We had two touchdowns in the game.
52:44Two. Yeah. Two. That's good. I like that. Devon Vele and Darnell Washington.
52:48Better than one. Yeah. At least, at least Devon Vele was good.
52:51Not as good as three. Good day for Chris Boswell.
52:55Well, it was until the end. Even he got screwed because they had that penalty that took away a field goal at the end.
53:02They just need, took a knee. Um, yeah, I, uh, I don't know any major takeaways from this game.
53:08I'm just going to throw that to you guys.
53:11I would say that if, I don't know if there's good reason to hold many of these saints players through the buy,
53:18the running backs obviously make some sense to hold onto them, but Travis, a 10 could come back.
53:23We don't know for sure. Oh, Lave. Obviously you're going to hold.
53:27He's a stud, but Vele, even with the touchdown and, and the good game shock with a good stat line.
53:33It's, it's almost like the inverse of last week where his, his stats were kind of wonky and, and he didn't play
53:40well last week, but the stats ended up being great this week.
53:44He didn't, I don't think he particularly played great and his yardage was great and he only missed on eight throws.
53:50You could let him go to, I think you could either pick them back up in a week if you wanted to, or just find another quarterback.
53:59Do you think Jordan Tyson is going to make Tyler Shuck more of a must start?
54:04If he ever comes back. Yeah, but we don't know when that's going to happen.
54:08I mean, we all got excited because Jordan Tyson was on their flight to France and was out there with them.
54:15And I don't even know if he practiced. I don't think he did.
54:19Okay. No windows are being opened. Yeah. I'm just, we're waiting.
54:22I'm happy to have him stashed. You're going to, you're not going to drop Jeremy Bernard though, right?
54:28We'll give him another week for sure. Yeah. All right.
54:31And Jalen, I'm also tired of watching DK Metcalf run down the sideline and then like, like jump in vain for a pass.
54:38It's just not catchable. That's not what happened on his, on his deep reception, but I've seen it so many times this
54:45year where they're, they're trying to nail down the fade and, and I don't know if they're going to necessarily get it nailed down until like week 15.
54:54All right. And yeah, that's, that'll do it for that game.
54:57Although there was a really cool quote about linebacker Peyton Wilson and his interception, intercepted Tyler Shuck in the red zone.
55:04It was a huge game. And he said, quote, that's honestly just a credit to our coaches and what we do every day in practice.
55:11I've repped that play. No lie. More than 20 times now, just gambling a little bit and undercutting it.
55:17So that was really cool. Roger said he, he pulled that off in practice this week against him.
55:23Rogers. Yeah. Yeah. Out'll play at 46% of the snaps.
55:26I think that's notice. That's worth noticing too. All right.
55:29Cleveland 27, Tennessee 24. This was a good game.
55:32Yeah. It was a fun game. Yeah. I think if you have Carnell tape, be excited, keep starting him.
55:38Is there any thoughts and maybe Casey Concepcion being better than Denzel Boston rest of season?
55:43Who would you rather have? Still Boston, but it's close.
55:46Yeah. Coin flip. Maybe I want to watch the film before I make a call.
55:50Yeah. Boston plays more. That's, that's for sure. He's out there pretty much every snap.
55:55Um, Fannon is Boston. Boston had a very bad game.
55:58Um, I pretty sure that first interception was the only interception to Watson throw to anyway.
56:03The first one was the, the broadcast was saying it was Boston's fault.
56:07He ran a pretty sloppy route, um, and ran behind the defender and then he had a drop on the very next drive.
56:14Okay. And, uh, Fannon, I think is just going to drive people crazy.
56:18Mm-hmm. This year. We talked about Pollard. I think we're any, Jamie, give me a final thought on, uh, Harold fan and
56:25junior six catches, 91 yards on nine targets after two straight games with, I think fewer than two fantasy points.
56:32Yes. He was under two. Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to start him against Pittsburgh.
56:36We'll see what happens after that game, but I think he's just going to be in that 10 to 15 range most weeks, probably where we'll rank him.
56:45And if you need him and he's playing well, you know, this is you, who do we lose next week?
56:51We lose. Giants, Texans, Niners, and so Kittle and likely someone else.
56:55If, if he's available on waivers or he's on your bench, then there's nobody else available.
57:00Right. Yeah. All right. Speaking of the giants and the Texans giants win 27, 21 in overtime.
57:05And, uh, JJ McCarthy played well, even though the stats weren't good, but had four different giants score rushing touchdown, which was weird, including Jameis Winston.
57:13Uh, we talked about the backfield here. Neighbors looks great.
57:16Any concerns? Oh, I'll give you a stat here.
57:19Um, crap. I sent it to Dave. Let me see if I can find it.
57:24Uh, it's about Isaiah likely and JJ McCarthy. And summary is likely, since McCarthy took over, likely he's got something like a 17% target share.
57:31And I think it's even lower. Yeah. Malachi fields was what around 22, 23%.
57:36I don't remember the fields one. I know that he had five targets today.
57:40I hear it is. It's a 15.9% target share for likely.
57:44And a 22.7% target share for fields. And that wasn't all today.
57:47That's since McCarthy has come in, uh, any long-term concerns about likely?
57:51Maybe a touch just because if, if this is going to be McCarthy's tendency to, to throw downfield and to give his
57:58receivers a chance to make plays, then that, that obviously hurts Isaiah likely.
58:02Again, I think I'd really prefer to double check the film and make sure that that's what it is before we go with it, but it makes fields.
58:11And if it does come down to it being McCarthy, just has eyes to, to hit to the sideline and where these
58:17receivers are going 10 plus yards downfield. And he had some amazing throws in this game.
58:22Then by all means, Malachi fields will be somebody that we could end up adding off of waivers, not this week.
58:29Cause they're on by, but the week after just to see what happens.
58:33Yeah. Uh, the, um, likely got dinged up as well, right?
58:36Like he, he played, he finished the game, but he was, he was hurting the game.
58:41Right. But the ding happened late in the game, late, but it happened.
58:45Yeah. He's, he's a very good sell high candidate because he's going into a bye week.
58:50So you got to replace him this week. And he's what went into the week is tied in two, tied in three.
58:57I did one overall two per game. Okay. So somebody might have interest in that.
59:02If you're concerned, not Heath turned down my trade.
59:05I did. That was what a barn burner of a trade.
59:08That was, you know, those guys combined to score four fantasy points this week.
59:12Yeah. Laporta and likely it was bad. Uh, yeah.
59:15And I, I, you know, I gave that stat about Woody marks and it haunted me all week, but four times last
59:22year, he had 16 to 19 carries and he failed to score nine fantasy points.
59:27And now you can make it one time this year.
59:30Disappointing. Uh, Cincinnati first time the giants, uh, held a running back under 12 PBR points.
59:35Yeah. It just took them missing like three starters from week one.
59:39I know it's crazy. Yeah. Cincinnati 30, really bad game for the Texans.
59:43Like they just didn't play well. Cincinnati 35, Baltimore 13.
59:46Speaking of halves, this game was a tale of two halves.
59:49The Bengals looked like a total mess in the first half.
59:53And then apparently Jamar chase yelled at everybody in the locker room and they came out and scored 35 points on Baltimore.
59:59And it's 35 unanswered. It was just an amazing smack down of a half by the Cincinnati Bengals with T Higgins at
60:06zero catches at halftime and finishing with seven, six, one 48 and the touchdown.
60:11Just awesome performance by burrow. He said after the game, he gave the credit to his offensive line.
60:16It's deserved. That line did a great job protecting for him.
60:20And they, they didn't really, they threw a good amount.
60:23I don't have the second half numbers. I can pull them up, but he's, he's just awesome.
60:28He continues to mess with the Ravens and, and, and Baltimore desperately needs to get Tyler Huntley off the field.
60:34They, other than the great play to Zay flowers, where he just speeds away on, on a short throw and just turns
60:41into a big yak play for a touchdown. Like there really wasn't a lot to feel good about Tyler Huntley, even though he had almost 300 yards.
60:49Like if you had the completion of his career, it was 48 yards longest.
60:54If you had to guarantee like for your life, that Zay flowers was not going to catch a pass on a given play.
61:01How many defenders would you feel like you needed to put on him?
61:05Oh, just whatever. I don't know. Some of those routes today.
61:08And it wasn't like, yes, the one where he caught the screen and just ran real fast.
61:14That was cool. But like the, the one over the middle where he came back to get the ball between two defenders.
61:21Oh yeah. He's so, he's really great. He's awesome.
61:23Like he's like, when Doyle's good too, he's like a worse version of Malachi, Tony.
61:28You know what I mean? I don't know about a worse version of Malachi.
61:32Very, very similar. We don't have to really, I mean, look, we talked a lot about chase Brown.
61:38You know who the bangles are, although I, and you know what the Ravens are, right?
61:43But, and Henry, we already discussed earlier. We're hoping Lamar Jackson gets him going.
61:47And also Buffalo next week. But Mike, is sick.
61:50He has a touchdown in four straight games and all, but one game this year.
61:55He's 50% roster. He had one target. We can't, we can't go to the Cickey, right?
62:00It's too lucky. Nope. Okay. In non PPR. He might be a good starting option.
62:04Bye. Weak tie then. All right. At best. Next game.
62:07Atlanta 29, San Francisco 20. Oh, by coming at a great time for the San Francisco 49ers.
62:13Brandon cooks was a dud. Christian Kirk was started in 17, 17% of leagues.
62:17Didn't play much. Didn't get a target. So we know what the Niners are right now.
62:22I can't look good. He was almost good. Yeah, you're right.
62:26You know, three catches, 56 yards and had a touchdown reversed.
62:29Six targets. What's that? It was a bad call.
62:32No. He got his feet in, but his elbow hit the, he went to the ground on his side and his elbow
62:39hit the ground and the ball came loose. But two feet and one elbow should be a catch.
62:44The elbow was out of bounds. I was joking.
62:47Oh, well, that was the second one of those.
62:50He had, he had won like three plays before that.
62:53Now, 18 points per game is, is good for most players, but for Bijan, it isn't.
62:58And he didn't get there today. It's three straight games where he has failed to score 18 PPR fantasy points.
63:04And he had 15.8, 7.3. And then today somewhere in the 17s, I think for Bijan, um, Jamie, do we have concerns about Bijan Robinson?
63:12Are you kidding? It's light, but you know, not, not that you're ever considering benching him.
63:17I think if you're trying to trade him away, you're trading him at a terrible time.
63:22If there's a Bijan manager that's frustrated and we'll take a package for him of some, some less significant players, you should try to explore that.
63:30But look, he's still getting work. He's still going to be very good rest away.
63:35You know, I don't have any, like, legitimate concerns that are going to make me change my opinion of him.
63:41There isn't a human on the planet that would say, Oh, this is the end of Bijan Robinson.
63:46That's what I said. I said, yeah, Jamie, is this the end of Bijan Robinson?
63:51I forgot. I said that. No, I'm just saying he was the number two player in fantasy.
63:56What are we looking at here? Are we looking at the number two player?
64:01We're looking at a guy that everybody's starting every week.
64:04Let's talk about somebody. We're talking about trade value here.
64:07Is he a top five? Bijan Robinson. It's not going to change much.
64:11Everybody still loves him and thinks he's awesome. He's, we, he's not Jameer Gibbs.
64:15Okay. I would guess that not every Bijan manager loves him right now.
64:19He was better than Gibson. He wasn't he? He was, I think he was a little bit better.
64:25Gibbs had five catches also. It was close. Oh, Gibbs had the fumble.
64:29So yeah, no, Bijan was definitely better. I would, he had a three game.
64:33Bijan had a three game stretch last year, weeks eight through 10 that were considerably worse.
64:38Worse than this three game stretch. And if history is any indication, man, you're in for some good stuff.
64:44Cause he basically won fantasy leagues after that. Is there a worry about Christian McCaffrey?
64:49Because he had an injury today and he played four total snaps in the second and third quarters combined.
64:55Well, I mean, he came back and he's got the bi-week.
64:58It was a thigh injury. You know, I don't know.
65:01What do you think? I'm not that concerned. I think he's fine.
65:05I think he'll be fine too. But if you're going to make people wonder about whether or not they should trade a
65:12superstar running back with unbelievable upside, McCaffrey is the one you should talk about and not Bijan.
65:17I think that is so unfair what you're saying to me right now.
65:21I think it was absolutely appropriate of me to bring up the last three games for Bijan Robinson.
65:27They have been, what are the numbers in those last three games again?
65:31They were 7.5 fantasy points. 15.8, 7.3. And today was, I think somewhere around 17.5.
65:35Right. So his best game in his last three was today.
65:39Everybody is going to be satisfied with that from Bijan Robinson.
65:42He has the 7.1. No, one's going to be satisfied about it.
65:46Of course not. What's satisfied with 17 points from Bijan Robinson?
65:49Then you've got very high standards, sir. I think that's okay.
65:53Let's say, I think you're okay with that from Bijan Robinson.
65:56I don't think you're going to say, Oh, he, he stinks.
66:00No, I didn't. I think we spent way too much time.
66:03I agree. Dave Richard. Okay. Let's move on. I'll just wait till next week.
66:07Tampa Bay, 43 Carolina, 13, a blood bath here.
66:10We talked about Bucky. There was a, you know, I asked Dave this morning, should I start Chris Goblin or Marvin Harrison Jr.
66:17And he was so emphatic about that. It should be Marvin Harrison Jr.
66:21And I didn't pay any attention to him. And there was a point in this game where Chris Goblin had a touchdown
66:28called back on a legal shift or a legal formation.
66:31And then moments later, Marvin Harrison, I think caught a touchdown.
66:35I was like, I, I hate Dave Richard. The correct answer was literally anybody else because they were both terrible, but Godwin at least did have that.
66:43Well, I don't, I don't think it's great that he had a touchdown that was taken away from him, but at least you had that going for you.
66:52So wait, he had five targets. Yeah, that's five of 11.
66:5511 targets. Yeah. Great. That's great. Almost 50%. Great.
66:58You know what? You still got 6.7 PPR points.
67:01Okay. I'm going to finish. He almost had as many targets as PPR points.
67:05We're going to, that'll be amazing for his metrics.
67:08We're not going to say we're completely unconcerned because this is not the lions.
67:12This is the Panthers after all, but we're pretty much going to give them a pass and we're going to start the big four next week.
67:20And for Chris Godwin, the, if the Buka misses another game, the fact that he had almost a Jamie already said he was back next week.
67:29Oh, okay. Well, if Jamie happens to be wrong, um, no, we could consider him against the Falcons.
67:34Is that fair? We good with that summary? We're considering Chris Godwin against the Falcons.
67:39That's a number three receiver. Yes. I think, I think you love names.
67:43Oh my God. You're so personal today. What is your problem?
67:46What's your problem? I love names. You're making statements that are a little difficult to justify.
67:51This dude doesn't have 10 PPR points this year.
67:54He had a 45% target share. He hasn't played his first game without a Mecca Buka.
67:59He had a 45% target share and I can't rank him.
68:02He's going to be in the top 36 next week.
68:06No, because you don't do rankings. Well, that's true.
68:08All right. Minnesota 16, Indianapolis 10, drop or hold Josh downs and Keenan Allen.
68:13Hold Allen drop down. You can drop, kick them both squarely into the sun.
68:17Okay. I personally don't care at all about what happens against Minnesota.
68:21Um, but so like Keenan Allen, you know, he's been nine, nine and 11 targets the previous three games.
68:27What was his target share? Not good. He only had three targets on 20, on 22 pass attempts.
68:32Ugh. Horrible game. I think I said 115 yards or something for Daniel Jones and he went under.
68:38Uh, all right. Jordan Addison, drop, hold, drop. It's Detroit next week.
68:42I'll probably hold Jordan Addison or Chris Godwin. If Luca's out, I'd rather have him.
68:46Godwin. I would too, but we don't know if that's going to be the case.
68:51You'd rather have Chris Godwin. Okay. And yet what's wrong with me for you kidding me?
68:56I said, if a book is out, that's what I said.
68:59That is also what I said. That was the whole point of my thing.
69:04I can't help it that you are the number one fan of Chris Godwin.
69:08I'm not. There's not a lot of you left.
69:11I'm not, man. I'm just looking for some opportunities.
69:14Miami 28, New York 25. You're thrilled with Godwin 6.7 PPR points, but you're ticked off at B.
69:19John Robinson getting 17 PPR. I'm thrilled with Chris.
69:22Malik Willis had a great fantasy day. I'm through 30 fantasy points.
69:26Ran the ball. Well, he was awesome. He now has his full receiving core.
69:30Is Malik Willis somebody who might get into the streaming conversation again?
69:34I think so. Why are, why are you changing the subject?
69:37I think we should compare Malik Willis to Josh Allen, since they're the same, just like B.
69:43John Robinson and Chris Godwin are the same. That's what I think.
69:46You're the one creating topics for the show that are difficult to defend.
69:50If you think that it's, if you think that it's, and if you think Chris Godwin is going to get a 45%
69:57target share in a game again this year, we can bet on that.
70:01I don't think he will, but if he's going to lead the team in targets next week and there's no Mecca Buka,
70:08then I think he's probably the number three discussion.
70:11And I bet you, you know what? I bet your bottom dollar you rank him in the top 36.
70:17Well, if you're going to do that, then I, you know, he's going to be exactly at 37.
70:22All right. Who are you? Are you more excited about Ollie Gordon going forward or freaked out about Brees Hall going forward?
70:29Ooh, now that's a good question. Thank you. I'm not, I guess, more excited about Ollie Gordon.
70:34He's a starter. Yeah. We, I messed up with Ollie Gordon.
70:38I really thought that that was going to be, uh, uh, like a timeshare backfield.
70:42That wasn't going to score a lot of points because the offense was really terrible to start the year.
70:48And Ollie Gordon is helping make this offense really, really good.
70:52And he's kind of started to bring it up.
70:55The receiving core is healthy for Miami. The offensive line isn't bad for Miami.
70:59Ollie Gordon has been playing great. I think we, I think he's a winner.
71:03He's somebody that fancy managers can look at and say, okay, I'm going to start him as a number two running back.
71:10I mean, and, and he did great against Minnesota a few weeks ago.
71:14Yeah. Would you rather have Ollie Gordon or Tony Pollard?
71:17The only reason why I would say Pollard is in the event that he gets traded, but that seems like something we shouldn't expect or count on.
71:26So I'll say Ollie. Dave, Jamie Heath. I'd probably go Ollie Gordon.
71:29If I had a concern about Ollie Gordon, it's that they're about to play a bunch of teams that score a lot
71:36of points, new England, Detroit, not the Colts, then the bills.
71:40And what happens? He's not, he doesn't really, he runs a lot of routes, but he doesn't have a lot of involvement in the passing games.
71:48What happens if they fall behind? I wonder, I mean, they, I guess they did against Cincinnati and he still had 18
71:55carries, 88 yards and a touchdown, but we're not getting a lot of catches, but that could change.
72:00I mean, he had five catches in the two games before the Cincinnati game.
72:05So, all right. And then, yeah, am I the only one who thinks Brie Saul's in a little bit of trouble?
72:11I feel like I am. I feel like we've talked about this for about a week and a half.
72:17And I think Braylon Allen's going to have a bigger role than he did before.
72:22Brie Saul got hurt and Brie Saul is going to handle most of the passing work and be the NRB two.
72:28And Braylon Allen will be a touchdown dependent flex.
72:31I think we may get a coaching change soon.
72:34So who knows if that's going to determine a difference in philosophy.
72:37All right. We spoke about the Jets receivers and the Dolphins receivers.
72:41Unfortunately, none of them had a lot of targets.
72:44Greg Dulcich had a big game, five catches for 86 yards on five targets.
72:48That's two straight games with five targets for Greg Dulcich.
72:51And just remember when the Jets played the Dolphins against Mason Taylor.
72:55Oh yeah. Yeah. Mason Taylor. At least I got something right.
72:59He is the number one tight end. It's not, I don't know.
73:02It's not a Kenyon city. You can cut him Denver 30, Arizona 16.
73:06Hmm. All right. We discussed the Broncos running backs.
73:09Dobbins got the goal line touchdown, but it was a three headed monster here.
73:14And on the other side of the ball, another bad game.
73:17Heath for my, I mean, not terrible, but not good for Michael Wilson.
73:21And four catches for 55 yards. And we do get Dallas next week, but then it's Seattle Rams chiefs.
73:27What are we thinking about Michael Wilson at this point?
73:30I think he's going to fluctuate between being in a wide receiver three and a flex, depending on the matchup and how
73:37many good wide receivers are on a buy. Great.
73:40Kendrick born shoppable. Braylon Allen or Jonah Coleman rest of season from the chat.
73:44That's a good one. It is. You kind of want to say Braylon until, you know, for sure.
73:50Brice is coming. I have a good fantasy, uh, etiquette situation.
73:53Um, I made a trade offer last week to a team that was very wide receiver needy.
73:58And I had a lot of wide receivers and I had no running back.
74:03So I trade, I offered Keenan Allen for Braylon Allen and didn't get the trade accepted until the report that Brice all was going to play.
74:11I forgot that I sent the trade offer and I went, Oh, I should probably rescind that.
74:16I went, look, it was accepted. Um, what was, I'm sorry, what was your offer?
74:21I offered, I sent Keenan Allen for Braylon Allen.
74:23Oh, okay. This, this, like this team was never playing Braylon Allen loaded a running back, even if he was going to start this week.
74:31And I wasn't going to play Keenan Allen. So thought it could help, help each other up.
74:37Um, and then the Brice hall report comes out and I see, okay, the trade was accepted.
74:42I was like, Oh, that's a little shady. Um, that they waited until the, that moment to see whatever my fault for not paying attention to it also.
74:51Um, and then that worked out obviously my favorite thing.
74:54Yeah, that's okay. I think that's okay. Yeah. Jamie, you're okay by me.
74:58I don't know about Dave, but you're okay. Jamie.
75:00Hey Adam, Jamie said that Kendrick Bourne is droppable, but next week they play the Cowboys.
75:05You just think he's droppable, Jamie, Jamie. Jay said that Bourne is droppable, but next week they play the Cowboys.
75:12Well, he called it Jay, but other than that, he's short your name and Bourne.
75:16Um, yeah, I mean, look, if you want to, if you, if you need a receiver, sure.
75:22Okay. Yeah. We didn't expect them to do well against Denver and Detroit 20 green Bay, 17 games.
75:27He hasn't done well. Who Kendrick Bourne? Yeah. It was bad last week too.
75:32Well, yeah, but he had eight targets each of the previous two games.
75:36It just was such a shame. They traded Marvin Harrison and went into this horrible, horrible schedule of Rams, Broncos, Cowboys, Seahawks, Rams, Chiefs.
75:43It's just a brutal stretch. Detroit 20 green Bay, 17.
75:46Oh, the hell happened to Jordan love. It seemed to me like the, the lions were just really defended the deep ball very well in this game.
75:55Um, I think it was more that his past catchers, he, he throws a very droppable ball, very droppable ball.
76:01Um, like it was just drops all over the place.
76:04Matthew golden really didn't take advantage of the opportunity today.
76:07Josh Jacobs played awesome, but also dropped a touchdown.
76:10Um, it was a terrible game, but listen, you have a terrible game where you guys got guys dropping balls all over
76:17the place and you score 21 fantasy points. We'll take it.
76:20It's two weeks in a row. Last week they dropped three touchdowns.
76:24I mean, it's not, it's, it's three seasons in a row.
76:27Yeah. He has by far the most dropped passes in the NFL.
76:31And they were different guys in the past. He throws a droppable ball.
76:35I love it. I think he throws a very droppable ball.
76:38That's really funny. Um, I don't know that there's much here.
76:42What, what is your confidence level in Tucker craft?
76:45Cause I know he, he's caught the touchdown, but it was the best matchup in fantasy.
76:50He had six targets in this game on 45 pass attempts.
76:53So it really wasn't that great of a game.
76:56What's your confidence level, uh, Dave and Tucker craft.
76:59Still startable, still a top 10 fantasy tight end, still an offense.
77:02That's going to throw a lot. I don't, I think it's going to take a specific type of matchup where green Bay
77:09just is going to be able to run the ball a lot and they can take some pressure off of Jordan love.
77:16And I don't think we're there yet. Okay. Carolina stinks against the run.
77:20There should be a big game coming for Josh Jacobs.
77:23Is that next week? Thursday. Short week. Nice. I don't know.
77:27I don't know. Rams 35 Raiders. 21. Trey Tucker has now had two good games in a row.
77:32Yeah. It's a miracle. I tried to find like the last time he had back-to-back games with 12 or more fantasy points.
77:39I think it was 2024. And, but yeah, he's had two great games in a row now for Trey Tucker.
77:45Tucker. I'm not going to lie. I'm a little annoyed by the Raiders.
77:49They didn't deserve to score this many fantasy points.
77:52Cousins and Tucker. Cousins, especially. Yeah. A little bitter.
77:55Not a great game. Your bowl prediction, though, might come true still.
77:59Oh, man. My bowl prediction this morning was the Raiders and the Colts have new quarterbacks next week.
78:04Hmm. More likely to come true that one or Andy Reid being forced to step down at the end of the year.
78:11Definitely this one. Okay. I also predicted it would be, um, Riley Leonard and not Anthony Richardson for the record.
78:17Yeah. It won't be Anthony. Um, okay. Do we have any takeaways from, from this game?
78:22Rams and Raiders. Kyron had a fumble and he did not get, he, he didn't play in the next series, but he
78:29came back into the game and finished with almost a hundred yards rushing.
78:33Not as much receiving as in previous weeks, but this was a blowout win for the Rams who were able to get
78:40by with a good run game, a whole lot of Pukinokua and not a whole heck of a lot.
78:46Also, Davis Allen had a couple of touchdowns that he stole away from Higby and Colby Parkinson.
78:51So he, he was the tight end of choice.
78:54And then Kirk cousins just continues to get by on volume and garbage time.
78:58And that's why he had the numbers that he had.
79:01And finishes a quality fantasy QB. Gentry still is terrible running the ball.
79:05The offensive line hasn't, it's better than it was last year, but nominally better.
79:10And it's, it's what Gentry does in the passing game that makes him a fantasy hero.
79:15I think that's the big story of this game.
79:17Jamie over the last three games, Ashton Gentry has 28 carries for, let's see, 49 plus 15, 60 for 28 carries for 64 yards.
79:25And one rushing touchdown all season, but it was last week, you know, can, can he, he's on pace for 83 catches.
79:32Can he keep this going? Can he be this relevant and be, be this good for fantasy and be this bad at running the football?
79:40I think it depends on who the quarterback is.
79:42Cause Mendoza is going to have some growing pains.
79:45So, you know, we're getting a little lucky here with these Kirk Bortles efforts that he's given us in the fourth quarter, second half of the game.
79:54Um, but he's just, he, he, he's not a very good runner.
79:57It's, you know, we could make the argument, the excuse that the offensive line was so bad last year, which is fair.
80:04Cause it was, but they improved it this year.
80:07And it's just, he's just not, I think taking advantage of some, some opportunities that are there where Mike Washington did last
80:14week and a couple of times this week, not as much, but this is still a good defense.
80:19I know they're missing guys. It's still a good defense.
80:22You know, Chris Shula is a really good coach and he had guys in place to make plays for the majority of the game.
80:30And then they just, you know, the turnover, um, did the staffer have interception too?
80:35No, I'm saying. Yeah, he did. Um, yeah. So it was the, I think that was the one where they, they kind
80:41of got back in the game a little bit, at least made a little bit more competitive.
80:47I said it at, in the third quarter, like, why are you playing Puka at this point after they're up 35, six,
80:54whatever with 20, 28, six or something like that?
80:56Like, you know, why are you risking his calf?
80:59Um, and then they, they kind of needed to, you know, do be a little bit more competent offensively.
81:05But I think just looking at gente, like he's giving you fancy production.
81:09We, we talked about this, I think on Friday show, like there, there are certain players, like sometimes it's just ugly how
81:16it gets, gets it done, but they're getting it done.
81:19So 83 catches, you don't want to see him have to rely solely on that, but he is relying on it.
81:26It's been productive. Okay. Well, uh, man, do we do gente or gente or Jefferson rest of season?
81:31But before you answer, I actually think the Raiders have a dreadful schedule next week.
81:36They're at the jets. That's fine. At San Francisco, Seattle, at Denver, at Cleveland by chargers, Denver.
81:41And the last two games are Tennessee and at Arizona week 16 and 17.
81:45But that's a pretty bad schedule. And Minnesota schedules, pretty good.
81:49Is it? Yeah. I mean, we were talking about it with Kyler for two weeks.
81:54Yeah. Upcoming the next three. I'll take gente. I will too.
81:57Yeah. It's harder to find running backs, man. It's just those nature of the game.
82:02Yeah, that is gentier Jacobs. I think Heath, you said you to take Jacobs earlier.
82:06I don't think I did. Sorry. I'd probably take Jacobs and non and half PPR and gentian full.
82:12Great. What about a genti versus Godwin? And he left.
82:15He left. He might drop that. Love it. Oh, man.
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