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0:40Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football. It's Thursday, September 24th alongside Michael Leff.
0:44Let's say 24th. 24th? I think it did. Yeah.
0:46May the 24th be with you guys. Thank you.
0:48Thank you. Little synergy. Mike Clay, Field Yates. My name is Daniel Dopp.
0:52Very excited to be here. We're going to talk about Thursday Night Football.
0:55We're going to dive into our Week 3 Preview Part 1.
0:58But first and foremost, you look nice. Mike, did you dress yourself this morning?
1:02You don't look as nice as you usually do.
1:05No, I did. Yeah, why? What's wrong? This isn't just a standard t-shirt.
1:08It's like a slightly thicker t-shirt. It's heathered. It's like an ultra-cotton t-shirt.
1:12Yeah, so it's a little nicer than usual. Oh, is that what it is?
1:15Let's be honest. Mike is trending so far up, he is off the charts.
1:19That's the Parker Washington of fashion. Ooh, good call.
1:22Oh. Kenneth Walker, the third of fashion. It's like annoying.
1:24He's got great projections, great fantasy analysis, and he dresses like a ten.
1:28His hair always looks good now, too. Wow, wow.
1:30True. I've been told I need a haircut, so I don't know about that.
1:34Who told you that? Never mind. Okay, yep. I figured.
1:37Yeah, I assumed. When in doubt. When in doubt, that's what it was.
1:40You know who. You look fantastic. You look great as well, Field.
1:43Very excited to be here to talk about football today.
1:46Thanks, man. I'm very excited. I am the Devon Achan right now of fantasy analysts when it comes to the way that I dress.
1:53Stop! You're the tiny moving part of the show.
1:55Oh, that was a call-out to this shirt that I'm wearing.
1:58That's a band. I'm going to go see a couple bands this week.
2:01Can I ask you guys really quickly, have you ever heard of a band called Saves the Day?
2:06Of course, yeah. All right. We were just talking about a band prior to the show.
2:11Yes. And their most iconic songs. Yes. We managed to name.
2:14I named one, and I was like, isn't it this?
2:16And you named a different song. That's true. Isn't it that?
2:19We were talking about Five for Fighting. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
2:22What is Save the Day as big as well?
2:24Save the Day. They had two big records, Through Being Cool and Stay What You Are.
2:29My buddy Chris plays guitar, so I'm going to go see them this week.
2:32And then another band named Thrice, which is another pretty big band.
2:36I'm very excited to see them. Taking Back Sunday.
2:38What about, you know, Taking Back Sunday? I know that one, yeah.
2:41All right. And so is Field Day. Wait, you're going?
2:44Yeah. Yes. Let's sit together. I love that all three of us are going to shows on Saturday night.
2:49All right. That's going to be fun. We're real friends here.
2:52All right. We're going together, though. We excluded you.
2:55Yes, I know. They're too mainstream for you. I'm doing another thing.
2:58They've been heard on the radio, so you wouldn't know them.
3:01You know what I heard on the radio, unfortunately, yesterday was a quote from Sean McVay, guys, when we're talking about Puka Nakua.
3:07Let's dive into a little bit of football. That was an amazing segue right there.
3:11I appreciate that. Did you really hear it on the radio, though?
3:14I didn't. Didn't officially rule out Puka Nakua for this week?
3:17I don't like this week, by the way. Yeah.
3:20I'm going to say that in advance. There's a lot of bad.
3:23You should make plans to not have Puka. I'm just going to read this quote, and if this isn't the one that
3:29you guys were talking about, please let me know.
3:31Yeah. McVay said that Puka Nakua does not have a hernia, but when you're a skilled player and you're really trying to
3:37hit high speeds and you just really open up and you feel just, it's like some things can almost be like pre-hernia is kind of what he's feeling.
3:45So you err on the side of caution. Usually time is the best thing that allows that to heal.
3:50And then once you get to a certain point, then I think you feel pretty good moving forward.
3:55He didn't actually say how much time was going to be missed, but the idea of saying pre-hernia, taking time.
4:00What are you reading into this when you hear all of these things that he's talking about?
4:05Yeah. This morning I said to our show group text, like we should probably talk about Puka.
4:09I know we'll talk about it tomorrow because we'll have one more data point as to whether he practices or doesn't.
4:15Correct. I'm assuming he won't, but I think we should flag this now because if for some reason you have a consideration
4:21at flex that plays in tonight's game, Matthew Golden would be an example of a guy who's on that flex radar that
4:27could be your best option if Puka doesn't play.
4:29You better be prepared to play that player tonight.
4:31One thing about Sean McVay is that he doesn't, he has a pretty bad poker face.
4:36He does basically everything else great. Doesn't have a great poker face.
4:39And that's actually a good thing for our purposes when he's describing injuries.
4:43And I would say that he is telling us without telling us directly that Puka is probably not going to play this upcoming weekend.
4:49So there's the actual side of it of if you have a player that you think is good enough to be a
4:55flex, if Puka were on a buy, you should be strongly considering that player tonight.
4:59I just wanted to ask you guys, like, do you have buyer's remorse if you use a top five pick on Puka
5:05or have we not reached that point? I can't be.
5:08It's not like we saw it coming. It's not like we were like, ah, he's injury prone.
5:12He's probably going to miss multiple games or like that could have happened.
5:16I mean, anybody, I don't want to put this in the, in the word.
5:19All right. I won't, I won't say a specific name, but anybody could happen to anyone.
5:24And you can't look at it that way. If a guy busts because they're not playing well or something went wrong with the offense or whatever, fine.
5:31But like if, if they struggle because their quarterback got hurt or because they got hurt, it's hard for me to ever regret.
5:37Okay. I mean, it's unfortunate. No, I had to feel like you wouldn't feel the same.
5:42But in part, I moved Puka down. Item is wide receiver four because I felt like there were three other wide receivers
5:47in Jamar Chase and JSN and Amar St. Brown that are just like almost as safe as you can get.
5:53And at this point, if I didn't grab one of those three guys when I felt like, dang, they are the safer play.
5:59But I want the upside of what Puka can be because I think his upside was potentially the highest given what it can be in that offense.
6:06But did you think he was safer because of, for health reasons or just because we were worried about the suspension?
6:12Both. I think Puka maybe, uh, we talked yesterday about JSN and Amar St.
6:16Brown and how they're not divas at the position of wide receiver.
6:19They're just like easy players. I'm not ever worried about them getting in trouble off the field.
6:24I'm not worried about what they're going to say in like a weird, in a moment.
6:28That's fair. With Puka, there is a little bit of that and there's a little bit of the health concern.
6:33We've seen him just miss time in pockets throughout his career so far.
6:37So that's why it's just like a, it was a safe play.
6:40He's still wide receiver four and there's going to be likely a full season.
6:44So like, do I have buyer's remorse? I don't know.
6:46Okay. Last question I'll ask on this. If you're Owen too with Puka and that's possible because if you use your first
6:52round pick on Puka through two weeks, you've gotten 12.4 fantasy points.
6:56You get a pretty average week one, five catches for 74 yards and you're Owen too.
7:00Yeah. And you don't know when Puka is going to play.
7:03Maybe it's this weekend, but it doesn't sound likely.
7:05Are you actively shopping him and taking the best that you can get?
7:09Man, it's a conversation of like, where's the line?
7:11Like the line, it's like, do I trade him for CeeDee Lamb?
7:14You know, maybe. Sure. Okay. Yes. All right. But I don't know if I'm going much further than that.
7:20I don't know if I'm going outside the first round.
7:22Sometimes hesitant answers are actually very clear answers. Both of you just told me like, the answer's no.
7:27Like, I'm not like actively being like, I got to get the best I can for Puka.
7:32Yeah. But both of you would at least consider it.
7:34By the way, the CeeDee Lamb manager would trade you CeeDee Lamb right now.
7:38Yeah, probably not. But that's my point. It's kind of like, I'm not going, like, I'm not trading him for Parker Washington.
7:44As much as I like him, I'm not going that far.
7:47And Washington might be a top 15 play the rest of the year.
7:51But I don't know if he's getting to the level of Nakua.
7:54Maybe he will. But I don't know. I'm not doing that.
7:57If Puka was my only miss, quote unquote, then I would consider maybe trying to move him.
8:01But if I also had like a Devon Achan who hasn't lived up to expectations and it's like, oh shoot, now I've got two underperforming guys.
8:08Yeah, there may be like another situation or one of the injured quarterbacks that you were, you know, really in on, you
8:14know, you might have to make a move. So I think I have a team with Puka and I think this team is going to be awesome.
8:22It's in our Michigan men league. Yep. Josh Allen, Zay Flowers, Puka Nakua and Brock Bowers.
8:26Four of my first five picks. I think this team is going to be awesome.
8:30You got to hold out hope. But I am 0-2 because I've either had players unavailable or in the case of Puka,
8:36his one game he has played, he didn't play great.
8:38So I'm like, I can't do anything with Puka yet, but 0-3 would be a really difficult hole to pick myself out of.
8:45That sounds like a coaching problem. I mean, you got the pieces field.
8:48Why is the coach not putting it together on the field for the team?
8:52I got to admit. I got to admit, I had a bad travel plan for our team.
8:57That's what it does. That was the guy in the room and you make a bad travel plan.
9:01He set his lineup like minutes before the game started.
9:04Like he just wasn't prepared at all. Speaking of, let's talk about Thursday Night Football.
9:08Don't wait until right before the game to set your lineup.
9:11We're going to talk about it now so you can be all set and ready to go.
9:16Okay. Atlanta Falcons, Green Bay Packers, lineup blocks in this one.
9:19Bajon Robinson, Drake London, still lineup blocks. New quarterback.
9:21Because we've got a new quarterback. And then Christian Watson, the only lineup block on the other side.
9:26Mike, knowing that we've got a new quarterback, I do want to ask you why Kyle Pitts isn't also considered a lineup block.
9:32Or is he right on the fringe there? Guys moving up too kind of hurt him a little bit too.
9:37Because he obviously is off to a slow start.
9:40And then you have Isaiah Likely in there. And now Dalton Cade in there.
9:44And we might have Dalton Schultz in that conversation if Nico Collins doesn't play this week.
9:48He did not. I know. He did not. So we have a lot of competition for that spot.
9:53And I think you don't have to force it really with LA.
9:56Like I think he's fine. If you drafted Pitts and you want to fire him up, I think he'd have more confidence
10:02than you had during weeks one or two. But yeah, I think he misses that cut.
10:06He's more like around the top 10 than he is a cemented lineup block.
10:10As the no numbers guy. Yes. The player that we need to be discussing right now is Drake London.
10:15Yeah. That's the one that... He's a lock. He's a lock.
10:18And the upside potential. And I am just basically guaranteeing he'll go like three for 31 with what I'm about to say.
10:24Don't do it. But let's just go through some of the good things that Michael Penix Jr.
10:29brings to the table compared to what we saw over the past two weeks.
10:32Please. In 12 career starts, Michael Penix Jr. has 227 passing yards per game.
10:36Like that? Serviceable, not amazing, but serviceable. Especially when you consider the Falcons in their first two games have 247 total passing yards.
10:42So you're basically getting two for the price of one here when Michael Penix Jr.
10:46is starting versus Cooper Rush. He has started 12 games in his career as Penix.
10:50Drake London and Kyle Pitts have been available in all 12 of those games.
10:54Here's what numbers bear out. In 12 games, Michael Penix Jr.
10:57is a starting quarterback. Drake London is averaging 20.5 PPR points per game.
11:01Hallelujah. 11.1 targets. 6.8 catches. 96.8 receiving yards. Huge numbers.
11:03And a target share of 34.7. I mean, that's like what we saw last year for a while.
11:08Like top four or five wide receiver Drake London.
11:11Especially against a Packers secondary that certainly has question marks at corner.
11:14You're probably running out of time to make a trade for Drake London.
11:17It sounds like what you're saying. Today's your day.
11:20After tonight, it might be a little problematic. I've guaranteed you that it's going to be three for 31 by giving you
11:26this rosy outlook here on Drake London. But for all the frustration that we felt during the first two weeks, Michael Penix Jr.
11:32And even if the Penix experiment doesn't last that long because Atlanta, I still think, wants to get a look at Tua at some point.
11:39I think Tua gets us much closer to the numbers that I just shared for Drake London with Michael Penix Jr.
11:44than what we saw from Cooper Rush the past couple weeks.
11:47No, definitely. The Penix mightier this week than the Rush.
11:50Kyle Pitts, the numbers aren't quite as favorable. Kyle Pitts in those same 12 games.
11:548.4 PPR points per game. Field. I've got one catch for 15 yards through two weeks.
11:58I'll take 8.4 PPR points right now. I completely understand that.
12:01I'm just letting you know. Compared to what we just like.
12:04It's not like Penix returns. It's not the same as Drake London.
12:07And we're saying our confidence just skyrockets across the board for all these past catchers.
12:12It has seemingly meant the most for Drake London.
12:14So I'm very optimistic starting tonight. A little bit of a hedge in my ranking just to see it.
12:19Penix is coming off of a major knee injury.
12:21We want to see how he looks in his first start back.
12:25But I would have told you, like, before last week, I brought up Drake London.
12:29I was like, are we sure we're starting him if there is Cooper Rush under center?
12:33This week, I am not asking that same question going into tonight's game.
12:37By the way, he's my QB one in my Michael Jr.
12:40only fantasy team. Got another Michael Jr. back on the field.
12:43Love that. You've been saving that one for a while?
12:45For a minute. I mean, we have. No, we've talked about this.
12:48Michael Pittman Jr., Mike Washington Jr. There's a lot of good Mike Jr.'s out there.
12:52So, you know, we're putting a team together. What about, let's talk about Packers.
12:56Jordan Love, guys. Are we at a point now where...
12:59Do you want to start with the running backs or do you want to start with Jordan Love, actually?
13:04I think the running backs are fine because it could be really quick.
13:08Yeah. Let's do the running backs. Pass. Thank you.
13:10All right. Three guys. If you have three guys, you have no guys in fantasy, right?
13:14So with that context, with the way that we feel about it, and given that we've seen this the last little bit,
13:20is Jordan Love kind of like on that streamer, like low-end QB one conversation for this week for you guys?
13:26I'd never feel good about him in fantasy. There's not much upside.
13:29That's not the question. The question isn't do you feel good.
13:32Yes. The question is, is he like a quarterback 10 to 12, low-end QB one?
13:36I think he is. I think it's worth reminding people, like we're staring down the barrel of three quarterbacks being unavailable this week.
13:42Caleb Williams. Yeah. Jane Daniels. Yeah. Jackson Dart. All three of those guys.
13:46And Jackson Dart now officially out for the regular season.
13:48He's higher eligible, as you'd imagine. But like three of our top, I think if those guys are all healthy, on average, they're top 12 quarterbacks at worst.
13:56So if 25% of our top 12 quarterback guys are gone, like, yeah.
13:59So Jordan Love was QB 15 or 16, and now he's quarterback 12-ish?
14:03That makes sense. That's where I land. Like, is he a high-end streaming option?
14:07No. Like, the matchup is good enough, though. Bryce Young carved these dudes up last weekend that Love with a bad running
14:12game, bad offensive line, so hopefully he gets the ball out quick, and a consolidated receiver group.
14:17I actually like not just Love, but Christian Watson.
14:19And I think Matthew Golden is really viable tonight.
14:22Yeah, I think he's in the conversation this week as a streamer, but in general, I'm just like, I don't know.
14:28I don't feel, and I rarely feel a lot of optimism, because he hasn't done it for years.
14:32It's the same conversation we have with Herbert in the offseason.
14:35He just, it's been so long since he was a consistent QB1.
14:39He did it like one time, one season, like Herbert.
14:41Like, I just, I don't know. I don't feel great about it.
14:45But yeah, I mean, he's at least, I'm at 12.
14:47You're a little higher at 8. But 8, yeah.
14:50I also don't feel great about it, but I do feel like all of the things line up for things to work in his favor.
14:56There is no Josh Jacobs. The running game is atrocious.
14:59They have a very finite group of pass catchers now to funnel the ball to.
15:03I mean, for us, at least in fantasy, this is kind of like the best that we could get from Jordan Love.
15:09You're a little, you're a little lacking. You know, they had so much depth in the past.
15:14They're a little lacking a little bit right now.
15:16Now they are. On Jayden Reed. Jayden Reed's, he might be out for the season.
15:20Yeah. Sky Moore is going to get some run.
15:22Yeah. We'll talk about Sky Moore a little later.
15:25Yeah, we will. But yeah, I mean, look, Christian Watson's resume isn't great with injuries too.
15:29So if he misses time, then you're looking at Golden and Kraft and that's about it for like guys who are like legit starters in the NFL.
15:36So we have to keep an eye on that.
15:39Are you in the same spot? Do you feel the same way about Tucker Kraft that you do about Jordan Love?
15:45Basically, is that kind of like the same conversation?
15:47That's where I'm at. Yeah. We talked about him yesterday.
15:50I played every snap last week, which is a point in the right direction, but the production wasn't good.
15:55So, but with Reed out again, they're going to have to get him the ball a little bit more.
16:00And by the way, Atlanta, three touchdowns to tight ends already this season.
16:03Maybe there's something there. Maybe there's something. All right.
16:06Who are you taking to this one? Packers or Falcons?
16:09Packers get it done at home. I think I also took the Packers.
16:12You did. I can confirm that. You can confirm that.
16:15Thank you, Field. I appreciate that. Let's see Caleb Johnson in prime time tonight.
16:19We'll see if he gets a little bit more.
16:21He's got a little more last week. Maybe he'll get a little more.
16:24Good. Matt LaFleur had some positive things to say about him.
16:27So we'll see. Oh, producers took the Packers. That must be for our man Q.
16:31Big Packers fan. Yeah, big Packers fan. He came in wearing a Jordan Love jersey today.
16:36Man after my own heart. Yep. Q is definitely, he is all about his Packers.
16:40Yes, he is. He's from like the West Coast too.
16:42Is he? California and I think Oregon roots as well.
16:45Look at that. Where do you go to school, Field?
16:48Yeah, come on. Q went to Harvard. It's the Wesleyan of Boston.
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18:10Void where prohibited. Week three preview, my friends. Let's get into it.
18:13We're going to start, as we always do, kind of going around with a couple of storylines here with Panthers and Browns for the first one.
18:20Lineup locks. Chuba Hubbard officially a lineup lock. Jonathan Brooks is going to be out for a number of weeks.
18:25IR eligible. He's going to be the number one running back there.
18:29And then both Tedrell McMillan and Jalen Coker. That's beautiful to see.
18:32Jalen Coker is locked in. He belongs in there right now.
18:35Absolutely. Back-to-back weeks with nine targets for Coker. Looks fantastic.
18:37No Bryce Young. With the three quarterbacks that we have out and the way Bryce Young has played the first two weeks,
18:43is he on that fringe spot for you guys?
18:46Yeah, I think he's knocking on that door. Yeah, for sure.
18:49I'm at 10. Okay. I'm at 10. Absolutely. He's a little trappy sometimes.
18:52I don't know. I'm still not fully trusting this offense.
18:55I'm a little nervous about it going into Cleveland.
18:57And sometimes you'll just get them like 13 to 10 games in Cleveland.
19:01Like, I'm a little nervous, but we'll see. I mean, maybe this is the year for Bryce.
19:06Maybe he finally put it all together. And the Browns were way more respectable defensively last weekend.
19:10Yes. They were not good week one. They were good in week two.
19:14Trevor Lawrence lit them up in week one. 25 fantasy points, four passing touchdowns.
19:17Mike, if it's a 13 to 10 game, does that mean that Quinchon Judkins actually maybe got a lot of run in that one?
19:24Hopefully he got the touchdown. In that case, I'm hoping the Browns offense gets it rolling a little bit on the ground.
19:30You know, we were nervous about the offensive line coming into this season.
19:33That has reared its head so far because Judkins averaging 2.3 yards per carry.
19:37Deshaun Watson has faced a ton of pressure so far this season.
19:40So it hasn't been great. This is a big week for Quinchon Judkins.
19:44We talked about it yesterday. You know, it's been a while since he's had a good fantasy game tracing back to the later stages of last season.
19:51But he's playing almost 70% of the snaps. He had five targets last week, which probably isn't going anywhere with Raheem Sanders
19:57replacing Dylan Sampson in that, you know, number two role.
20:00But the key here is really the matchup. They're at home for the first time this year and they're playing Carolina, who
20:06is loud, 406 yards already to running backs through two games, Chicago week one and 148 yards to the Falcons backs last week.
20:12So this is an opportunity for Judkins to get rolling and that's going to be a huge part of this Cleveland offense.
20:18So I'm optimistic. I think he's very much, at least in the lineup lot conversation this week, I think he gets it going.
20:24Helps that he's a running back. It always pushes him up closer to the lineup lot conversation, given that.
20:29What do you guys feel about Denzel Boston? Because the first two weeks, he's looked like the only guy that has a connection with...
20:35Can I ask you what you feel about Denzel Boston?
20:38Oh, sure. I'll tell you a couple things about it.
20:41Tell me more. First two weeks, he looks like the only guy with a connection, right?
20:45With Deshaun Watson. Cell phone service? Said this? No, no.
20:48He was the only one really catching passes and being productive.
20:51Yeah. Two for 59 and a touchdown. Five for 95 and a touchdown.
20:54That's only seven catches through the first two weeks.
20:57So I recognize as a part of this, there's a little bit of chasing touchdowns here, you could say.
21:02But he's played 93% of the snaps field. I think you talked about this a bunch.
21:06He is a full-time player. He is the one that is out there.
21:10Panthers allowed many points to the Chicago Bears in week one.
21:13It wasn't to all the guys that we wanted, but it gives me a little bit of optimism that I think with
21:19what we saw the first two weeks, that Denzel Boston has creeped into the flex conversation.
21:23I'm way higher than you guys. I have him at 28.
21:26Field, you've got him at 36. Mike, you've got him at 38.
21:29Do you want to see it another week before you're in on the Denzel Boston can start for me train?
21:34With one tweak there. I'm good on Denzel Boston.
21:37It's the Browns offense as a whole that I need to see for the week before.
21:41I'm like, all right, I 100% would have added him on waivers.
21:44Or I did slash I had him on a couple teams already, which is one of those bonuses.
21:49I didn't draft him being like, you know what?
21:52By week two, I've got myself a potential flex in Denzel Boston.
21:55It was more of a long-range play. But yes, I think he was both worth the waiver wire add this week, but
22:01also a little bit of a wait-and-see. Fair. Because the offense is a wait-and-see offense.
22:05Definitely. Yeah. They could lay an egg on Sunday and it wouldn't stun me at all.
22:09Yeah, he looks good. I think he's going to be a legit player in this league.
22:14But one thing I will mention, though, is, and the reason maybe I'm not a hair higher, is Casey Concepcion's on the
22:19verge, I think, of a good game. He has handled 10% of their carry so far, which is a, that's like peak Ebo Samuel level usage.
22:26Yeah, Percy Arvin. And also, Boston and Concepcion both have a 21% target share.
22:30So, I mean, he's been busier than you realize.
22:33His role's just different, and Boston has hit a pair of touchdowns, one of which was in garbage time.
22:38But there's reason for optimism. If you look at the projection, you might be like, why is Concepcion hanging around like 10 points?
22:44That's why. Because his usage has been really good.
22:46He just hasn't converted quite yet. But that's coming.
22:49Who are you guys taking in this one? I got the Panthers.
22:52Panthers. I have the Panthers as well. I can see the Browns winning this.
22:56They just went into Tampa and won, but. No, you can't hedge like that.
23:00Carolina's playing well. You can't. It's such a hedge thing to say after it shows up on the screen.
23:05But this is like a 51-49 one for me.
23:07This is a close call. Mike has the Panthers winning this game 22.4 to 21.6.
23:11That's what it is. That's probably a little lower than that, but I don't know.
23:15I can tell you, though. No. It's okay. We don't want to know.
23:19Just give me 10 minutes to find it. All right.
23:21Next up, Jets and Lions. 21-20. Panthers. Wow. You were actually really close.
23:25Way to go. Lineup locks in this one. Jameer Yebs, obviously.
23:28I'm on around St. Brown, obviously. Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson.
23:31A couple names that are not on that list.
23:33Jamison Williams. First two weeks, guys. Hasn't been a lineup lock for our squads.
23:37Is this a week in which he finally gets back into form, you think?
23:41I am going to pretend like I'm a mirror and ask that question right back to you.
23:45You know. Do you believe that Jamison Williams gets back into form this week?
23:49Played 91% of the snaps. I mean, this is the same kind of thing.
23:53He's on the field all the time. He had nine targets in week one with like two major drops that if he
23:59doesn't have those drops, I think we would be singing a little bit of a different tune because we would feel what
24:05we saw in week two is like, oh, this is part of the Jamison Williams roller coaster.
24:09After what would have been a nice week one, this is week two.
24:13So I like that this is the third highest implied total.
24:16A lot of points are going to be scored.
24:18Yep. There's a little bit of like this revenge game narrative.
24:21I don't know if they're going to want to like run it up on Aaron Glenn.
24:25I was like, who does Jamison have? No, no, no, no.
24:28But like Dan Campbell and the Lions and like, you know, they're playing against their former defensive coordinator kind of a thing.
24:34But a little bit extra rest. Home game, Jared Goff in a dome.
24:38You'll like all those things. I think he's still a flex option, but I have lost some confidence over the first couple of weeks in Jamison Williams.
24:45I'm a little lower. But to your point, though, snap share.
24:48Hi. Route participation. Hi. Area yard share. All basically identical to last year in the last two seasons.
24:53Correct. His target share is down a little bit, but not by much.
24:56I mean, he should be better going forward. I will say this though.
25:00Jets 4.7 yards per attempt allowed so far. That's second best in the league.
25:04That was a defense I thought was underrated coming into the year, but they're better than I thought so far.
25:09And we'll see if that continues. This is a big test for them.
25:13We're hoping Jamo gets on track, but it kind of feels like Jets wide receivers might be in for a big day field.
25:19I'll talk about them in just a moment, but don't you think at some point, this is year five for Jamison Williams.
25:25Even if you want to throw away his rookie season because he was coming off of an ACL tear, like at what
25:31point do you learn that when you draft Jamison Williams, you draft everything?
25:34You draft the good and the bad. And what you don't do is pull the plug after two games because fantasy karma
25:40then leads to a 22 point performance. That's exactly right.
25:43Like you just have to, when you draft them, when you press that button in your draft room, you have to acknowledge
25:49that no matter what happens in a two or three or even four week stretch, it can't faze you because there has
25:55been very little rhyme or reason in the past.
25:57Like they have, you mentioned the high implied total.
25:59That's going to be every game for the lions, right?
26:02They're a bad defense and a very good offense.
26:05So the, the implied total is going to be robust.
26:07There's going to be opportunities for scoring. They're going to have good matchups because of their schedule.
26:12And it may not matter for Jamo. Like that's just the nature of how this player operates.
26:16So the ranking matters for sure. But I would say, like I only have Jamo on one or two teams and I haven't thought about removing him.
26:24I've just said, you know what? I'm going to stick it out because eventually he's going to pop.
26:29And when he does, the good version of Jamo can be a very useful player.
26:33Not as much. I remember you told me this, Daniel, like there's not as much upside for Jamo as it feels like.
26:39Yeah. Like his career high is like 26 fantasy points.
26:4127.8 or something like that. Yeah. He doesn't even have a 30 point game to his name, but there's enough upside that
26:47you got to keep riding that wave. Yeah. He did have 16 points or more nine times last year.
26:52Yeah. It was season. I hope for half the season.
26:55And I would like to say, even though he didn't make it on the list, I think Sam Laporte is a lineup
27:01lock with the way he's played the first two games of the season in the tight end position.
27:06He probably could be in there. It's a close call, but yeah, he's on that borderline.
27:10So the player I wanted to discuss is Garrett Wilson as the Garrett Wilson enthusiast on this podcast.
27:15Yeah. Yes. I think Mike is going to be on the target.
27:18He never bites on it ever. I know. I was playing into it.
27:22Thank you. Look, everyone watching knows that's not true.
27:24Correct. I'm just leaning into it. That's the comedy of it.
27:27Um, Mike obviously is the Garrett Wilson enthusiast on this show.
27:30And I think this is just, I mean, if it's not this weekend for the absolute crush job for Garrett Wilson, there's
27:36never going to be a matchup where we feel as confident.
27:39Maybe he gets when they play Miami, which that will be a good one too for, for, for Garrett Wilson.
27:44But I know it's a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny sample size, but through two games, the Lions have allowed by far
27:50the most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks and wide receivers.
27:53They've even been generous to tight ends. So if you feel sort of, I don't know, a little frisky and you want
27:59to throw Kenyon Sadiq out there, sounds like Mason Taylor is not going to play.
28:03That will be a little bit too, that'd be, it would be a bridge too far for me, but a really good
28:09opportunity for, uh, for Garrett Wilson to thrive. And I'll say it in a deeper league.
28:13Like I'm not talking 10 teams, 14 team league or larger.
28:16Gino Smith, your guy, Mike on the streaming radar.
28:18We got there. Yeah. I'm not, uh, all right.
28:21All right. I'll give it to you in super flex.
28:24Probably not going further than that. I like him.
28:26I, what I like about him is not for fantasy.
28:29It's for get the ball in the hands of Garrett Wilson, who, by the way, I want a little higher target here for Garrett Wilson.
28:35It's down 24%. 23.7%. That's a solid number, but that's not a Garrett Wilson number.
28:39We need that to be a little higher. Uh, yeah, definitely.
28:42He's a shot at a huge game here. Check in on fantasy focus countdown on Sunday morning.
28:47And we will talk about a DFS lineup that has a double stack of Gino Smith with both of these wide receivers.
28:53And then Alliance come back on the other side.
28:55Double stack. Yes. I was, uh, we were, where I was, I thought my two older daughters and I were playing this
29:01morning and we were playing like, you know, we, we breakfast, uh, we were up in the playroom.
29:06We were just talking about random things and then we were, um, pretending we were casting spells on each other.
29:12Yeah. And so naturally started that first I was, I was a frog.
29:15Then I became frozen. And then I became a unicorn who had three double stuffed Oreos on his horn.
29:20Your girls know how to play. Double stuff, double stack.
29:23Double stack. Yeah. I was thinking pancakes. My, my, I went to breakfast.
29:26So it was great. Did you? Yeah. No, I mean like that's where my brain went to breakfast.
29:31Sorry. Uh, taking the lines in this one. You guys taking the lines as well?
29:35Lions as well. All right. Moving on to the next game.
29:38My friends Texans and Colts. Yeah. Guys. Nico Collins did not practice.
29:41Don't like that. Don't like that. And to sort of play it out here is like, uh, lineup blocks, by the way,
29:47Jonathan Taylor, Tyler Warren for the other side. Yeah.
29:50If Nico Collins, the only one right now. Yeah.
29:52If he plays, he plays in there. Well, if he doesn't practice today, he'll be out of the projection.
29:57So I'll keep an eye on that. Uh, just a reminder, new season.
30:01Um, Tomiko Ryans has traditionally been amongst the least likely head coaches where a player who does not practice Wednesday or Thursday actually plays on Sunday.
30:08Okay. That's good to know. So just, if he doesn't practice today, you can likely count on him being out.
30:13So if we're planning on Nico not being in there last week field, we saw Dalton Schultz.
30:18Yeah. Is this just like a rinse? Like, do you guys feel it's a rinse repeat situation or would you stay away?
30:24If, if Nico's out, Dalton Schultz would be a top 10 tight end for me.
30:28There is a very notable reservation that I have about Dalton Schultz, not to the point that he would be like tight
30:34end 20, but I want you to temper expectations because the numbers suggest this guy should be like, you know, tight end three or four, right?
30:41He's run the most routes, got the second most targets.
30:43He had a monster week last week. If Nico's out there, so, so, so, so thin.
30:48The Texans have had the most un-Texan like game script though.
30:51And that's the point that I think is important is that they've played games where they are either playing shootouts against the
30:57Buffalo Bills or playing from behind against Cincinnati and they can't run the ball.
31:00Well, I know everybody got on me, but I had the audacity to suggest that David Montgomery might be a sell high after week one.
31:07Two weeks in, like he's averaging like 2.6 yards per carry and Woody Marks is no better.
31:12He's a little better, but not much, right? So they can't run the ball, which is going to lead to more throwing,
31:18but I don't think there's going to be so much throwing that Dalton Schultz is going to consistently be amongst the most routes run at tight end.
31:25If Nico's out though, I'm still starting him. I'm just letting you know that if he goes out there on Sunday and
31:31finishes with four catches for 48 yards on five targets, don't be surprised because the circumstances have been like top five percentile
31:37for him in the first two weeks. Yeah, he tends to have games like that, but he did not have a game
31:43like that last year when Nico was out. He had a, it was worse than four for 88, four for 48.
31:48I think he had like three points or something in fantasy.
31:51So just because Nico's out doesn't hasn't automatically meant big Dalton Schultz, but I agree.
31:55He'll be up a little higher in the rankings, but I'm not, I wouldn't consider him a lineup love.
32:00I said to you guys last week, if Nico was out, I was going to watch all of these receivers just to see if anyone established themselves.
32:08The answer's no. I'm done watching. He's the only pass catcher that if Nico is out, you go into the matchup saying, I have some confidence.
32:15Correct. Obviously one of them could, like it's a Colts defense that got shredded by Patrick Mahomes.
32:19They are not a good team period right now.
32:22Definitely not a good defense right now. So somebody could have a big day, but we're not forecasting that going into the game.
32:28Yeah. Yeah. He was busy. It was unbelievable. Honestly, we're going to be without both of the top two wide receivers in
32:34this one, both wide receiver ones for each team, because we know that unfortunately, Alec Pierce, another one placed on IR.
32:39So he's going to be out there. Does that give more target share to Josh Downs, to Tyler Warren?
32:45How did it break out in your projection? How dare you disrespect Laquan Treadwell like that?
32:49Is that what it is? After Pierce led, after Pierce left last week, he actually led the Colts and routes run after that point did Laquan Treadwell.
32:56But Treadwell actually hasn't had a game with double digit fantasy points since 2021.
33:00It's kind of wild. He's just hung around, but that's five years ago somehow.
33:04It's been, it's been quite a while. So he'll probably play more this week, but Darius Slayton's on the roster and he
33:10should be in game shape because obviously he was with the Giants until late August.
33:14So actually might've made it till September. Like the final cut.
33:17Yeah. Yeah. It was after that, I think, but he, he could have a role here too, but the guy is obviously Josh Downs.
33:23He had a 30% target share after, or in, in last week's game, which obviously Pierce, I missed most of that seven for 72 on nine targets.
33:30So if you think about how the Colts are going to operate their offense now going forward, obviously Jonathan Taylor's number one, but then it's Downs and Warren.
33:38You're going to run through those three guys moving forward.
33:41And to your point about Houston, they've really struggled so far.
33:44The most touchdowns and fantasy points allowed to wide receivers already three.
33:47They have already hit 14 and a half points against them in just two games.
33:51You have to think they're going to get that straightened out at some point.
33:55I think back to like Baltimore, was that a couple of years ago?
33:58Remember Baltimore? The first month was just unbelievably terrible defensively.
34:01And then they were really good the rest of the year.
34:04So maybe Houston does the same thing and figures it out.
34:07But so far, they have been just torn apart.
34:09Tyler Warren hasn't been the disappointment that Colson Loveland, the other tight end has been, but he has not been.
34:15But he has. He's not been good. He's had a touchdown in both games, hasn't he?
34:19He's been only by touchdowns. He's got nine catches for 34 yards.
34:22Not what we thought it was going to be.
34:24Yeah. Short range roll. Yeah. No, I'm just saying like...
34:27Field knows what I want to say. Yes. Like if Colston Loveland had had two like even average games, we'd be talking about Tyler Warren, I believe.
34:34He's averaging under four yards a catch. He's averaging like fullback yards per catch.
34:38He has a unique role for sure. I mean, he's going to get goal line carry.
34:43I still feel okay about him just because, especially with Pierce out, I mean, he's going to be so busy.
34:48I think I have... I don't exactly know what to make of the Colts right now.
34:52This is sort of a real life conversation more than a fantasy conversation.
34:56Well, I think the Texans are going to be an elite defense that will hang their hat on that and being, you
35:02know, CJ Stroud can be good enough. Like I thought about the Texans in my AFC Super Bowl pick coming into this year.
35:08Yeah. There was a lot. I did. There was a lot of...
35:11Everyone was higher than me on the Texans. Yeah.
35:14I did not understand that, but... Okay. Well, who has more championship equity in your guys' opinion?
35:18The Texans or the Colts? The Texans. Texans. Yeah.
35:21I would agree. The Colts are such an interesting team because it's like...
35:24I feel like they've got a healthy number of solid players, but it's like the ceiling just feels a little capped for this franchise.
35:30Yeah. Jonathan Taylor is obviously amazing, but like Daniel Jones is like a solid quarterback, not a great quarterback, you know, like...
35:36Sauce Gardner, they traded for him and traded two first-round picks.
35:39Like that's a hefty price for a guy that plays a position that...
35:43And by the way, like they're playing a lot of zone.
35:46Yeah. If I said to you in today's past...
35:48This is nothing that's not fantasy, but like in today's passing league that the leaders of your passing squad were going to be Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce.
35:56Yeah. That's got to rank towards the lower end.
35:58And by the way, they're both getting paid. That's the thing.
36:01They're getting paid. So... I think where I land on the Colts is like, I think they are a good team.
36:07I think they can be a good team. I said earlier they're a bad team because they have been through...
36:12I mean, they hung with the Chiefs, but like they're 0-2, right?
36:15They can stay... They can hang tough on occasion.
36:18Just don't feel like this team has... They kind of...
36:21Sort of like where the Steelers have been for the last decade or so.
36:24It's like they can find their way to Frisky.
36:27It's an 8-9 team or a 9-8 team. When it really matters...
36:30When it really matters... That middle is just a dangerous place to be in the NFL.
36:34Yeah, but it's... They're both 0-2. Huge divisional game.
36:37Huge game. Huge game. Whoever loses this game is in deep trouble.
36:40Must win for both teams. Well... Texans fans would say, if we lose, we'll be exactly where we were last year.
36:46That's 0-3. You're right. I got the Texans. Ooh!
36:48I'm taking the Colts in this one, Phil. Yeah, I have the Colts as well.
36:52Oh, look at that. They're at home. Go with the Texans.
36:55Yep. I like it. I like it when we get the split.
36:58All right. Another one. Vikings and Bucs. We're going to go to the mailbag after this, but first, we want to dive into one more game.
37:05Bucky Irving and Emeka Abuka. Both still technically on the radar.
37:08Yep. Both on the lineup block list. Aaron Jones.
37:11Justin Jefferson as well. Aaron Jones is officially iffy for the game on Sunday.
37:14He is. He's had soreness though, right? So, I'm not panicking on that one yet.
37:18Also, I don't know when it's soreness, how often, and you really need to read into this with veteran players.
37:24Is it like, we're just going to be like, soreness, we're giving him rest?
37:28This one was like a legitimate, like, let's make sure we keep our eyes on this.
37:32Okay. Okay? So, I'm telling you guys now. And if he's out, sure, like you'll see DJ Dallas move up in our
37:38rankings, but not to the point that he'll be in the top 20.
37:41I also think... Jerome Ford. Yeah. Yeah, he'll probably be activated.
37:44And I was less optimistic than you guys were on Aaron Jones last week.
37:48Like, his role was really good. Well, he had zero targets, but he saw a lot of carries, but just 10.4 fantasy points.
37:54I don't think they'll do that again. Like, if he's banged up after one game of getting 20-ish carries, I think they're
38:00going to be much more judicious with him for the next three weeks or longer if Jordan Mason isn't available after his IR period officially comes to it.
38:08That was a tricky one. And it was a surprising game script, first of all.
38:12Remember, I mean, they were ahead anyway, but then Caleb got hurt, so they couldn't really take the lead from them.
38:17The Vikings couldn't score, but the Bears couldn't take the lead.
38:20So, Minnesota just ran the ball into the ground.
38:23We did not see that coming. But it was also...
38:26It's a really important divisional game. So, like, they wanted Jones out there.
38:29They just don't have good options. So, I'm not surprised it went that way.
38:33But I agree, in general, that's not going to be the point.
38:36I think they'll be far more judicious. But the thing that I wanted to talk about before this Aaron Jones news yesterday is Kyler starting.
38:43Kyler Murray is starting. Yeah, huge. And I don't really think...
38:46And we had this conversation, I think it was Monday or Tuesday.
38:49I believe it was Tuesday. My ranking for Justin Jefferson didn't move up or down.
38:53Nope. Same with any other Minnesota skill player. Don't know.
38:56But as we just mentioned a few moments ago, 25% of our top 10 or 12 quarterbacks are going to be out this weekend, right?
39:02So, is Kyler... Can he resurrect himself enough that in future weeks we're talking about Kyler as a weekly starter?
39:08Because Jackson darts out for the year. We've had no timeline on Jaden Daniels, but it sure sounds like he ain't going to play for multiple weeks.
39:15Caleb Williams sounds like he's going to be multiple weeks as well.
39:18So, if Kyler balls out on Sunday, then next week when we're going down this same path, are we going to be saying, yeah, Kyler's my QB8?
39:26I don't even know they play next week. But Kyler is definitely talented in the ways that you need to be talented to be good for fantasy, right?
39:33He's still a very effective runner, even if he's not the same level of athlete as he once was.
39:38And he's got, I would say, good weapons around him.
39:41One of the best ever in Justin Jefferson, but good enough around him with the good offensive mind that he can resurrect his fantasy career.
39:48Agreed. Next week, they play the Miami Dolphins. Oh, baby!
39:50So, think about that. I mean, even better. Sure.
39:53Like, if Kyler shows, if he gets you 20 fantasy points this week, then I bet Mike will have him as projected as like the fifth quarterback.
40:00I was going to say he'd be five. He'll be in that vicinity.
40:04And keep in mind, if you had Jackson Dart or you had Jaden Daniels, he was out there in waivers in quite
40:10a few, like 10, 12 team leagues. So, you might definitely be.
40:13Because he was out. So, I scooped him up as a replacement for Dart.
40:17I think I have Lawrence in that league. It might be the FFC league.
40:20He's on my bench now. So, now I'm going Lawrence, Kyler.
40:23And that might work out just fine. So, Kyler's still available in 43% of ESPN leagues right now.
40:28So, if you need a quarterback, go out and think about it.
40:31At least for these next two weeks. Mike, what do you want to talk about here from this game?
40:36By the way, we just had Justin Jefferson up on the screen for those that are watching.
40:41We were talking about Amon Ra and JSN being low maintenance.
40:44Shout out Justin Jefferson. He is. You're awesome. He's the best in that regard.
40:48100%. Another receiver. We'll go from Jefferson to the number one, we hope, wide receiver for the Buccaneers and Emeka Abuka.
40:53Stick him with him as a lineup lock. You drafted him as such.
40:57He should stay in lineups. He hasn't been horrendous.
40:59He does have double-digit fantasy points in both games.
41:02We haven't gotten to that high ceiling. Obviously, he was bailed out by a touchdown last week.
41:06But he is leading the wide receiver room in snaps so far.
41:10The problem has been Baker Mayfield has been spreading out targets.
41:13You talked about this yesterday, Daniel. Yes. Four Bucs have exactly 10 or 11 targets so far.
41:17Abuka, Kaydun, Bucky Irving, and Ted Hurst, of all people.
41:20Jalen McMillan will probably play a little more in this one as well.
41:23That's been a miss by me. I thought they were going to get Jalen McMillan more involved.
41:28I mean, he was out. He was clearly limited last week.
41:31They just said, we'll give you a few snaps.
41:33Yeah. Yeah. That could change this week. So I wouldn't say miss yet.
41:37But the target share is too low. 18%. He was at 24% last year was Abuka.
41:41So that number needs to go way up. If it does, he'll be just fine.
41:45And I'm optimistic that it will. This is a tricky match.
41:48And Minnesota was so good against the pass last year.
41:51They shut down Chicago last week, even before the Caleb injury, obviously.
41:54But remember, they gave up 55 points to the Packers receivers in week one.
41:58So maybe they can be had by at least one receiver.
42:01And if you're picking one from this group, obviously it is Emeka Abuka.
42:04They're at home. They're 0-2. Huge game. Huge. They should be the best team in this division.
42:09Over under .5 weather delays on Sunday. Under. I would say under as well.
42:13That's the longest one I can remember in a long time last week.
42:16That was crazy. You guys going with Vikes? Wallfield looks this up.
42:19You going with Vikings? I'm going with the Vikings.
42:22What did I? Yeah, I picked Tampa. I thought so at home.
42:25I took the Vikings as well. You took Tampa?
42:27Yeah. They're getting it. They're at home. They're going to get it strained out.
42:31Sunday, 84. Oh, beauty. Beauty down there. That's going to be nice.
42:34We have crazy weather coming our way here. I'll skip tomorrow's show and head down.
42:38And head down there? Okay, thanks. Just to report on Kyler.
42:41See what's going on with Emeka. I mean, we're supposed to get like three inches of rain here in Connecticut this weekend.
42:47Yeah, it's supposed to be a little stormy, windy and all that kind of stuff on Saturday.
42:52Third straight washout. Be safe out there. My wife taking care of three kids for a gigantic portion of Sunday.
42:57I just loved three straight rainy Sundays to start the season.
43:00Eric Moody's basically taking care of three kids when he handles chat because he's holding it down for us.
43:05That was a tough one. I didn't let that transition as much.
43:09I tried. I don't know. Red Pants Brigade. Thrice is not a band.
43:12It's the number of losses I will have come Tuesday.
43:15Hey, with that attitude, it's a positive swing. That's right.
43:18I appreciate that, though. Anthony Bubba 200 wants to know Waddle or Kyron Williams in the flex.
43:22That is a good one, but it's hard to argue against Kyron Williams.
43:26I think right now I'd still go with Kyron, but that's a good flex consideration.
43:30I have them both projected for 13. That's a really close call.
43:33That is amazing. I'll give it to Kyron just because Denver's been slow against the run so far.
43:38I'll lean that way. Do your projections not go to decimals?
43:41They do, but I have to... Oh, okay. What did you want to know?
43:44I got it. No, no, no. I understand that the guy got it.
43:48It would be funny if they are the same number, though, but let's see.
43:52How many decimals do your projections go? They go to a bazillion.
43:55That's not a real number. 13.1 for Waddle. 12.6 for Kyron.
43:58Or for Kyron. So it actually leans that way.
44:00Leans Waddle a little bit. All right. I'd go with Kyron still in that way.
44:04Yeah, the running backs are generally a little safer.
44:07Matt wants to know, Dak in a potential shootout or Mahomes in a potential second half run game script?
44:12Wait, both of them are good? But I'm going with Mahomes.
44:15I am a Mahomes ire, yeah. I would also do Mahomes.
44:18I don't think we're talking... We're not talking the game in Brazil today, but worth noting that the Ravens for sure travel today.
44:24So we'll know on Zay Flowers by now. Yes.
44:26Burt Macklin wants to know from the FBI, if Bowers doesn't play, would you two Kyle Pitts or third and Juwan?
44:32Juwan Johnson. Do you know Burt Macklin fell into a pit one time?
44:36He did. He fell into a pit. No Kyle Pitts.
44:38Wow. You're going Juwan? Is that your logic? Because honestly, I'd be so proud of that.
44:43That's pretty good. That's not my logic. My logic is I have him rank 10 spots higher.
44:47I would do Kyle Pitts just with hopefully the rise in the offense with the new quarterback.
44:52Last one. This one's from Tony Nardelli. Oh, this one's painful.
44:55Colston Loveland or Oronde Gadsden? All right. So first of all, Gadsden obviously on the rise because David Njoku's on IR and
45:01Charlie Kolar is going to be out for a while.
45:03So this is a shot for Gadsden to have a big role at tight end because they signed Hayden Rucci off the practice squad to be there too.
45:11They just don't have anyone there. I believe from somebody else's practice.
45:14Exactly. That's what I mean. He knows Mike McDaniel.
45:17Trust me. I looked at their practice squad immediately and was like, I don't see anyone.
45:21I recognize a tight end. They have some trouble there.
45:24So Gadsden should play a big role. If they're throwing to a tight end, if it's a passing down, you need a
45:29tight end in the field most of the time.
45:32It's going to be him in this game. So he's on the rise, but I'm sticking with Loveland.
45:37I can't do it. I have to leave him in there.
45:40I'm leaving him there as well. So do they only have two?
45:43Because Charlie Kolar was previously announced as going to IR.
45:46Jim Harbaugh said they ended up getting some good news.
45:48So maybe, you know, probably not four weeks missed, but probably multiple weeks for him.
45:52Right now, are there only two healthy tight ends on the roster?
45:56Yes. They also have Alec Ingold who can do some things as an H-back fullback.
46:00But on the practice squad, they have two guys that I was not familiar with.
46:04So they have a problem at that spot. But again, it's good news for Gadsden to get a look here.
46:09It's always bad when you're a player in our ESPN fantasy database and Mike says, I was not familiar with your game.
46:15They were not active in the fantasy game. Let's put it that way.
46:19They have not played in the NFL quite yet, I believe.
46:21The problem is it's my subject. So I'll figure it out in a little bit.
46:26All right, let's talk about Patriots and Jaguars. Yep.
46:28Pats and Jags. Lineup locks in this one. Drake May at the low end of the QB radar.
46:33In part because, again, we have three quarterbacks missing this week.
46:36Trevor Lawrence also. And then Parker Washington obviously has absolutely crushed so far this year.
46:40I don't see any running backs for the Patriots on there, guys.
46:43You don't. And there shouldn't be, Daniel. But I did want to go back and check out what we saw last year
46:49because the Patriots are an interesting running back conversation for this week.
46:52Obviously, most people realize that Ramondre Stevenson fumbled last week, his first fumble of the season.
46:56You're glad I wasn't here for that show. Yes.
46:59You thought about it a little bit. His first fumble in a while by his own standards, right?
47:04Ramondre has been a very turnover-prone player. But it's been a while since he fumbled.
47:08He fumbled in two separate games last year, did Ramondre, including two fumbles in one game.
47:12So he had three fumbles lost in 2025, but two of them were in a single game.
47:17So I went back and I checked to see in the two games following his fumbles, how much was Ramondre Stevenson's role
47:23impacted, if at all, relative to Travion Henderson? Great exercise.
47:25Well, it turned out that he ended up playing more than Travion Henderson the following week, and he still had more carries
47:31than Travion Henderson in each of the following weeks.
47:34Now, it's worth noting that Ramondre kind of got hot at the end of last year.
47:38And that did coincide with where ball security was not really an issue with him at all.
47:43So those two games following fumbles, he was ineffective, but he was still the Patriots' lead back.
47:47And I have him ranked as running back 27.
47:50Travion Henderson I have ranked as running back 29.
47:52If you ask me which one of these guys is more likely to handle, if they split up 25 carries and one
47:58gets 14 and one gets 11, I'll put my money on Ramondre Stevenson getting the 14 and Travion Henderson getting the 11.
48:04So it's certainly much narrower than where we thought it would be, like where we were last week going into that game with Travion healthy as well.
48:11But I still think Ramondre is the Patriots' running back that is more likely to have a fantasy-relevant role.
48:16Yeah, I'm kind of projecting it how I did leading up to the season.
48:20Now, after what we saw last week, Henderson did double up Stevenson in snaps after the fumble in that game.
48:25I do expect that to even out. I think it is what it is.
48:29I think Stevenson, to your point, is just that guy that's reliable.
48:32He's going to be out there in passing situations, out there to pass block.
48:36He's going to be the starter. But Henderson's going to – yeah, he's an effective player, but he's not quite as explosive for Henderson.
48:43And that's going to be Henderson's role. Well, remember, during the regular season last year, Henderson did hold an edge in carries.
48:49So even if there's some garbage time there, it was fairly even in terms of carries.
48:53But Stevenson had the edge in passing situations, and that's what it's going to be.
48:57So you might be looking at 10 carries and maybe one target from Henderson for the time being.
49:02Keep in mind, he had zero targets, even though he played such a big role last week.
49:06So I don't feel great about Henderson as a starter, but I don't feel great about Stevenson's fantasy upside, which he also did not have last year.
49:14It's kind of where we – as you said, it's kind of where we were coming into the season.
49:19And Henderson, by the way, and this has been brought up by several people, is yes, he had that 39-yard touchdown run,
49:25but his other 14 or 15 carries were very ineffective.
49:27I always feel like that's kind of a tough bit of analysis to do because through 18 – I guess, yeah, 18
49:33games of his NFL career, like Travion Henderson is about as good of a bet as any player, maybe other than Jameer
49:39Gibbs, to have a long touchdown run. I'm going to say Jameer Gibbs is – if you were to ask me who
49:45is the best bet this weekend, have a 30-plus-yard touchdown run, I'm going to go Gibbs one.
49:50Gibbs definitely one. I would, yeah, at the running back spot.
49:53Who's number two for you guys? Is it Bijan?
49:55I would say him. Jonathan Taylor? I was going to say Ken Walker would be up there.
50:00Jonathan Taylor's in the top five. I would still – you know what?
50:03Derek Henry would still be up there. Yeah, that's totally fair.
50:06I would still include Devon Achan. I think he has a shot at a big play this week.
50:11Okay, so Devon Achan. The point is that Travion Henderson ranks a lot higher on that list than he does our running back rankings for the week.
50:18Oh, yes. So I have, again, Ramondre at running back 27, Travion at running back 29.
50:23Big game for the Patriots and Jaguars. Both teams are one and one here.
50:26Anything for the Jags? No. I think I know who we're starting, and I am passing on the running backs if I
50:32can help it, unless I have literally no other options, and Basial Tootin is the only guy I have.
50:37So until further notice, it is the Parker Washington show here.
50:40That's it. Parker Washington. You can start Lawrence. You can start too, but you're definitely starting Washington, and you're definitely – and that's it.
50:47Just to – That's pretty strange. For those that may wonder, we don't expect Christian Gonzalez to shadow Parker Washington.
50:52No, Washington is in the slot about half the time.
50:55He might see a lot of Brian Thomas, though.
50:57I was kind of curious if they would put him on Myers or Thomas or just have him play his side or
51:03go on Washington when he's on the outside, but it's nothing to worry about because they move around too much.
51:09Yeah, that's right. The Patriots faced a more elite receiver in week one in Jackson Smith and Jigba, who had a monster game, obviously.
51:15He did see some of Christian Gonzalez, but just with the way they move him around and him playing the slot, it's
51:21hard to shadow that guy for a full 60 years.
51:24That's why your guy I'm on, Ron, never gets shadowed.
51:26That's right. So he's in the slot. Always moving around everywhere.
51:29I'm on an island. I am on Foxborough Island team.
51:32Yeah, you are. I am taking the Patriots. I took the Jags.
51:35Mike took the Jags. Our producers took the Jags.
51:38Yeah. We'll see how this one works out. Next game up, Titans and Giants.
51:41You can do the Titans, Daniel, after you give us the lineup.
51:45That's what makes me sad a little bit. Lineup blocks here.
51:48Cam Scadaboo, Malik Neighbors, and Isaiah Likely. Quick analysis on the Titans.
51:51Still a lineup? Mike, over to you. Yeah. We're not starting any Titan.
51:54Both of the wide receivers are outside the top 50 of the wide receiver position right now.
51:59There's just no chemistry. You can't see any. Both the running backs are hurt now.
52:03They're both bad. Neither one of them practiced. Both Tajay and Tony Pollard did not practice this week or on Wednesday.
52:09I'm not playing Cam Scadaboo. Sorry, Cam Ward. I am not playing a tight end.
52:13We are just unfortunately passing on all Titans. But we have a lot to talk about for the Giants because without Jackson
52:19Dart, how are we looking at the offense different?
52:21By the way, I just want to say, Carnal Tate does have a 24% target here.
52:25So maybe. Maybe it happens at some point. At least he's getting the usage.
52:29We'll see if that translates at some point. But yeah, I mean, it's hard to believe, but I still feel like you're
52:35locking in three Giants, even with Jameis Winston out there.
52:38We talked about this yesterday. We know he can put up big passing numbers, and that's what we're going for.
52:43The guy averaged 20 fantasy points per game the last time he was a full-time starter, which was about six or seven games.
52:49So I feel like he can still get the ball to Malik Nabors and Isaiah Likely.
52:54Nabors had a dud last week, but he obviously got hurt early in that game, and Dart left.
52:58I kind of shook things up. I'm not too worried about that.
53:02The Titans have struggled against wide receivers so far.
53:04They've allowed at least nine fantasy points to five different receivers already, and the opposing number one receiver had a good game both times.
53:11Garrett Wilson at 13.9, which is fine. And last week, Devontae Smith at 27.7 in that game.
53:15So some optimism for him. Isaiah Likely has 18 targets already.
53:18We can't bench him at this point. No way.
53:21He's been too good. He's third at tight end in targets and catches.
53:24And then Cam Scadaboo, 18 for 81 and a touchdown in week one.
53:28Last week, didn't run it as well, 12 for 36, but had four targets in that game and caught them all for 19 yards.
53:34So we need to kind of combine those, give us the good rushing and also a handful of targets, and then it'll
53:40be the full package for Cam Scadaboo. Played 60% of the snaps in both games, even with Najee Harris and Devin Singletary involved last week.
53:47And again, I think this is an exploitable defense.
53:49So I think all three belong in lineups. The Giants amongst the interesting options for streaming defenses this week.
53:54Facing the Titans, obviously. The Panthers also in that category.
53:57Facing the Browns. A couple of options to sift through.
54:00Yeah, Brian Burns out for the Giants hurts, but otherwise.
54:02They have no pass rush right now. It's wild.
54:05How do you guys feel? I know it's not a good offense.
54:08Are the Titans a highly rostered defense? No. And I'm saying this, is this silly?
54:12I don't think it's silly. I hear you coming from him.
54:15You know what I mean? He could throw for 400 yards.
54:18He could throw for four touchdowns. Yeah. For the other team.
54:21Yeah, he'll throw two of those touchdowns to the wrong team.
54:24Would that be a defense if you had to stream someone?
54:27I actually am using them in one of my DFS lineups because I'm buying into the potential Jameis narrative.
54:32That's all. I'm on the Giants in this game, by the way.
54:35I am also on the Giants in this one.
54:38Yeah, Giants. All right. We are. Hold on. Big opportunity for Jameis here.
54:41Or four. Sweep. Sweep here. All right. Last game.
54:44Bengals and Steelers. Talk to me about these running backs, Daniel.
54:46I don't really want to. Yeah. Lineup locks in this one.
54:49Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, and Tee Higgins. All three of them.
54:52No? Joe Burrow. We'll talk about that. Yeah, we'll talk about it in a minute.
54:56Running backs. We had a DNP from Rico Dowdle.
54:59Jalen Warren was actually limited at practice. If we don't have Rico Dowdle out there, I think Jalen Warren's going to move
55:05up our rankings to probably more of a low-end RB2.
55:08Usable for sure. A potential flex option. Yeah, definitely usable in this one, given where we're at.
55:12If Rico Dowdle plays, then it probably eats enough into Jalen Warren that I wouldn't have him in the RB2 radar anymore, unfortunately.
55:18Yeah, he's tricky. I thought about him for a little foreshadowing.
55:21I did think about Jalen Warren as a sneaky start of the week.
55:25We'll talk about tomorrow. But Bengals might be good against the run so far.
55:29That may be a little nervous. And if Dowdle's out, I would feel better about it.
55:33But we don't know for sure. I do have him out of the projections for now.
55:37So our guy, Eli... How do you pronounce it?
55:40Heidenrick. Heidenrick, yeah. Great American. Could have a role in this one alongside Jalen Warren, which would be fun.
55:45Is that one person or is that one pick?
55:47Hyde and Rick? Eli Hyde and Rick? Realtor, yes.
55:50Eli, Realtor and Heidenrick. Okay, got it. He is the seventh-round pick out of Navy.
55:54Oh. Yeah. Great young man. I know this story.
55:56I didn't realize it from the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:59Okay, that's very cool. He made the team as a seventh-rounder, and he's had three touches already, but an opportunity to play this week, perhaps, if Dowdle's out.
56:06Yeah, we'll definitely keep an eye on this running back situation.
56:09But if Jalen Warren's the only one, we'll probably start him this week.
56:13If Rico Dowdle's out there, I'd rather not use either one of them.
56:16On the other side of this, Mike? Like DK Metcalf.
56:19Yeah, guys, we haven't done a ton of receiver corner matchup stuff because there hasn't been anything super impactful so far this season.
56:25But this one could be very impactful for DK Metcalf.
56:28First of all, I mentioned that Bengals defense is not your slightly older brother's defense.
56:32They're a little bit better. It's true. It's a little bit better this season.
56:36They have not allowed a single receiver to reach 11.5 fantasy points so far this season.
56:40They played the Bucs and the Nico Collins-less Texans.
56:42Texans, fine. But the major thing here is potential shadow coverage.
56:45DJ Turner on DK Metcalf. He shadowed him both times last year.
56:49And you know what Metcalf did in those games?
56:51Less than 10 fantasy points in both of those games.
56:54So this is a tough spot for him. It'll probably help if Michael Pittman plays.
56:58Maybe they're less prone to put Turner on Metcalf exclusively in this one.
57:01But he's going to see him a lot. So I'm definitely worried about him, especially with this atrocious start.
57:06Because, I mean, here's the thing. If I told you during draft season that Metcalf was going to be top five receiver
57:12in snaps, routes, and targets, you'd feel pretty good about that.
57:15Yeah, 19 targets. He's averaging 19 targets. He's 62nd in receiving yards.
57:18He's averaging 3.5 yards per target, which is beyond terrible.
57:21I mean, they don't have to fix that. You know how water fit.
57:25When you pause the podcast and then you go into our ratings, and next to the stat chemistry, there's the little flame next to all three of us.
57:32Yeah. Next to DK, it's like an ice cold.
57:35He has no chemistry. No flame. With Aaron Rodgers, it doesn't look like, in spite of the fact that he has 19
57:40targets, they do not look good with each other right now.
57:43It is not great. He, if, you know, this is Aaron Rodgers' last NFL season, the Steelers pivot to a much more aggressive thrower next year.
57:50DK will be one of those guys that we spend all offseason talking about.
57:54This could be the re-breakout of DK Metcalf. I'm taking the Bengals.
57:57I think we all are. I think I am too, yeah.
58:00Maybe not because of our producers. Oh, Christina. Big Steelers fan.
58:03Hey, she's got to do it. She's got to do it.
58:06That's right. This is the right way to do it.
58:09Look at the Bengals. 2-0. I mean, wow. Starting strong.
58:12Starting strong? I'm not used to that. No. Yeah.
58:14All right. Let's do our Raheem Sanders pick of the week.
58:17We missed here in week two, unfortunately, but week three, we got some new guys on tap.
58:22Guys, I'm going to go with one. A.J. Dillon.
58:24There it is. Let's go. Number two running back there in Carolina.
58:27Only rostered in 0.3% of leagues. There's a shot that maybe he can get an end zone look or a goal line
58:33carry with Chuba Hubbard being the only other running back there.
58:36Love that. Fields, where are you going? Laquan Treadwell.
58:39The aforementioned Laquan Treadwell. Had three catches for 61 yards last week.
58:42We'll see whether Darius Layton is playing as soon as this weekend for Indianapolis.
58:46Kind of a similar skill set to Treadwell. But Treadwell, as Mike said, still hanging around.
58:50Former first round pick. Wearing that number 13 for Indianapolis.
58:53Bad matchup against Houston. But crazier things have happened than Laquan Treadwell scoring in week three.
58:57I like it. I'm going to pick. I went a very similar direction here.
59:01I'm going Sky Moore, who I mentioned earlier. So guys, this is fun because it's tonight.
59:05Yeah. Maybe this ain't I player. Sky Moore, just one career touchdown.
59:08That was back in 2023. During the regular season, he had a playoff touchdown as well.
59:13But still no Savion Williams for Green Bay. Now Jaden Reed is out.
59:16And Sky Moore already has quietly four targets this season.
59:19One of which was an end zone target, which is what we're looking for.
59:23Very good returner as well. By the way, you're right.
59:25Do they count? Are we counting return touchdowns? Absolutely.
59:28Is that an anytime touchdown? Yeah. Yes. Atlanta, weirdly, has allowed four passing touchdowns already.
59:32None to a wide receiver. But maybe this will be the first one.
59:35Ooh, perhaps. I like that. There's a chance. Our producers are going to go with Colby Young.
59:40I got to admit, this is a random one.
59:42But Andre Yoshivas is going to go on to IR.
59:45So Colby Young, the third wide receiver for Cincinnati.
59:47You like it? Yeah, that's a good one. That's a great call.
59:51A guy that's going to, you know, low rostered.
59:53But they're going to play a larger role here this week.
59:56I got two others that I almost picked. Did you have others on the list?
60:00Eli Heidenrick I almost picked. But I didn't know if Dowdle was going to not play.
60:04I like Jeremy Ruckert. As the, you know, tight end, you know, Jets taking on the Lions.
60:09No Mason Taylor. Maybe not going to play. And the aforementioned Jared Wayne, if there's no Nico Collins, Jared Wayne literally was a big part of that offense.
60:16He's rostered in under half a percent of leagues.
60:19Someone else I thought about. Can you do a parlay of what?
60:22Seven names did we give you? Kevin Poulsen probably already has.
60:25You could have all of them hit. They wouldn't, but also you could retire.
60:29You could. On Monday. Like you're set. So can you just start doing those every week so we can get you to retire?
60:35That would be great. That was mean. Oh my gosh.
60:38Sorry. All right. Well, we love each other on this show.
60:41We do love this guy. We do love this guy.
60:43Even though he didn't dress up today. That was mean.
60:46That's a hefty shirt though. Thanks for hanging out with us today.
60:49I'm not sitting by Field at the concert now.
60:52Oh no. But I sing all during concerts. You're going to want to hear it.
60:56You are going to want to hear it. I don't think I'm going to want to hear that.
61:01Thanks for hanging out with us today, my friends.
61:03Make sure you come back and hang out with us tomorrow.
61:06We're going to go through the rest of our week three preview.
61:09Recap what it was that was Thursday Night Football.
61:12Make sure you set your lineups. Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
61:16You deserve it. We'll see you guys later. Bye.
61:19You're in the 0601. No.