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Week 8 Fantasy Football Start/Sit: Players to Trust, Risky Starts & Toughest Decisions! (Ep. 2303)

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1 hr 2 min
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Oct 30, 2026
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Fri, October 30, 2026
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Tony PollardAntonio WilliamsChristian WatsonDenzel BostonJonah ColemanJordan AddisonMakai LemonMatthew GoldenOllie Gordon IIStefon DiggsAaron JonesBlake CorumBraelon AllenBrenton Strange
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Aaron Jones

NegativeInjury48:49

Expected to miss at least one to two weeks with an injury similar to a previous injury; the source Jake assumes Aaron Jones will not play this week, which impacts the Jordan Mason versus Blake Corum decision; the source Fitz notes the decision would be tougher if Aaron Jones sits but still might favor Corum.

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Antonio Williams

PositiveRole10:00

With Terry McLaurin out for the season due to a torn patellar tendon, Williams is positioned to play an expanded role as the Commanders' receiver. He has already accumulated 205 yards on 26 targets in a limited role early in the season. The source notes Williams is a terrific athlete (4.41 40-time, 39.5-inch vertical at the combine) who was a zone beater at Clemson and is dangerous with the ball in his hands. The primary uncertainty is whether Williams or Stefan Diggs will occupy the slot role against the Eagles, who funnel targets to the slot and have struggled with coverage there.

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PositiveMatchup12:00

The Eagles defense has been a slot funnel this season, with Cooper DeGene struggling and Quinion Mitchell still tough on the outside. The source emphasizes wanting the slot receiver in this matchup. If Williams operates from the slot (as opposed to Stefan Diggs), he would be well-positioned to exploit this weakness. The source ranks Williams at WR33, well above consensus (WR40), reflecting confidence in his role expansion and matchup.

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Blake Corum

PositiveUsage48:43

Ranked RB24 in ECR (two spots behind Jordan Mason at RB22), but received a season-high 18 touches in the Rams' first game without Devontae Adams; source the source Fitz ranks Corum three spots higher than Mason and believes the Rams will lean hard on running backs without Adams, raising Corum's touch floor to approximately 10 touches; Corum has elite upside on any touch but faces volume uncertainty against a Lions defense that is 21st in EPA per rush and 22nd in DVOA against the run.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveRole27:17

Allen has essentially taken over the lead role in the Dolphins backfield with Jalen Wright dealing with recurring injuries. The source recommends starting him as a top-20 running back and enjoying the opportunity, noting he's been productive with the workload.

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Brenton Strange

PositiveProjection58:48

Brenton Strange hasn't scored a touchdown since Week 1 but has accumulated 19 catches for 207 yards over the last three weeks, ranking as tight end seven in PPR scoring without a touchdown. The source projects he gets the touchdown this week, suggesting touchdown upside despite recent scoring drought.

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Christian Watson

NegativeMatchup40:21

Christian Watson did not go off against the Lions in recent action despite the Lions being perceived as a favorable matchup for pass catchers; the source notes that Brian Branch's return to the Lions defense is a big difference maker that will reduce the Lions' vulnerability as a 'come one, come all matchup' for receivers.

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NegativeMatchup42:21

Watson failed to produce against the Lions in Week 7 despite the matchup appearing favorable; the Lions' returning safety duo of Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph (coming off IR) significantly strengthens Detroit's pass defense, making them a tougher matchup for Green Bay receivers going forward.

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Denzel Boston

PositiveRole48:18

Boston operates deeper downfield with more valuable targets than teammate Casey Concepcion; averaging 18.6 yards per catch and had his second-best yardage day of the season (four catches for 89 yards) against Pittsburgh. Higher ceiling due to explosive play potential with 40-yard plays possible; ranked inside top 30 consensus flex.

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PositiveMatchup48:18

Boston is preferred over Casey Concepcion in a start-sit decision between rookie teammates; the source cites both the game he's coming off of and the matchup as reasons for the preference.

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DeVonta Smith

NegativeInjury43:58

Smith's injury has opened up opportunities for Makai Lemon in the Eagles' passing game; without Smith's absence, Lemon would not be seeing significant volume at this point in the season.

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Emanuel Wilson

NegativeRole45:26

Wilson's appeal is diminished by the Bears' trade for Jeffrey Simmons, who is expected to play early rushing downs, reducing Wilson's role and making him less attractive than Rashad White in a start-sit comparison.

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Hunter Henry

PositiveValue49:39

Hunter Henry preferred over Travion Henderson in flex despite consensus flex rankings disagreeing; has been valuable recently despite roller-coaster production. Eli Raritan is horning in on tight end targets but Henry still offers more consistent value than Henderson who might get only four touches.

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Jacoby Brissett

NegativeProjection16:00

Brissett is mentioned as the source's streamer of the week on the waiver show, ranked higher than Jared Goff in consensus rankings for week 8. The source notes a specific stat about Brissett in games with 37+ (likely passing attempts or similar), but defers detailed discussion to later in the show. He is positioned as a viable streaming option but without full context provided in this segment.

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Jadarian Price

NegativeDepth Chart45:45

Price is expected to return to practice, signaling a potential return to action, though the exact timing and impact on the backfield rotation remains uncertain.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeRole44:06

Hurts may not have trusted Makai Lemon early in the season, similar to how Aaron Rodgers withholds trust from certain receivers; Tanner McKee's arrival at quarterback could potentially help Lemon by providing a fresh start, though this remains speculative.

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Jared Goff

PositiveProjection14:00

The source plants his flag on Goff as a QB1 inside the top 10 for week 8 against the Vikings, despite the Vikings' elite defense (league-best EPA per drop back allowed at -0.18). The key insight is that while the Vikings allow the fourth-lowest pressure rate (34.8%) against five-plus defenders, Goff has the seventh-best EPA under pressure this season and ninth-best since his second year starting with the Lions. The Lions are strong at picking up the blitz and protecting under pressure. Additionally, Goff has weapons (Amon Ross St. Brown, Jameer Gibbs, Jamison Williams, Sam Laporta) that can mitigate the Vikings' defense. In his one home game against Minnesota last year, Goff had 284 yards and two touchdowns. He is ranked QB12 in consensus, suggesting the source sees him as undervalued.

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Jaylen Wright

NegativeInjury27:17

Wright got banged up again and is dealing with another injury, though he's practicing. The source notes this recurring injury issue has essentially made him a backup to Braylon Allen in the Dolphins offense, reducing his fantasy relevance.

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Jonah Coleman

NegativeRole6:00

Coleman played 30 snaps in his first game off IR last week compared to RJ Harvey's 16 and JK Dobbins' 14, establishing him as the lead back in Sean Payton's offense. He has had almost a quarter of his runs go for 10+ yards this season (well above the 10% league average), demonstrating elite explosiveness. However, the source notes uncertainty around his guaranteed workload and passing game involvement (two targets, two receptions last week), and the matchup against the Chiefs' eighth-ranked DVOA run defense presents a challenge. Emmanuel Wilson just had 100 yards and a TD against Kansas City, suggesting the defense is beatable.

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PositiveProjection9:00

Rest-of-season, the source ranks Coleman at RB26 with potential to reach low-end RB2 territory at best case. The comparison is to Mark Ingram's RB2 version in Sean Payton's offense, suggesting upside to crack the top 18 running backs for the remainder of the season. This reflects confidence in his talent and role despite the week-to-week volatility of the Payton system.

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Jordan Addison

NegativeRole39:12

Jordan Addison is the clear third or fourth option on the Cardinals offense; Kyler Murray historically alternates between wide receiver and tight end usage and does not deploy a second wide receiver unless the tight end is irrelevant. Addison has only one top-50 PPR performance all season and is ranked as a wide receiver four, not three, due to this offensive architecture.

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NegativeProjection39:12

Despite facing the Detroit Lions defense that has given up many big games this season, the source would not start Jordan Addison in Week 8; the only scenario for starting him would be if both DeVonta Smith and Donovan Wicks were unavailable, which is not the case. The source frames any Addison touchdown as a low-probability 'Hail Mary play' requiring an unlikely high-scoring shootout.

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Jordan Love

NegativeMatchup9:21

Love and the Packers' passing game struggled against the Lions in Week 7, failing to go off despite facing what appeared to be a favorable matchup; the Lions' safety duo of Brian Branch (back from injury) and Kirby Joseph (returning from IR) makes them a significantly tougher defense than earlier in the season, reducing the appeal of Green Bay pass catchers against Detroit.

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Jordan Mason

PositiveRole48:43

Ranked RB15 by the source Jake, positioned as a potential bell cow running back against the Lions with expected 70% or more of the workload in a matchup anticipated to be a shootout; the source prefers Mason over Blake Corum due to significantly higher touch volume despite Corum's upside, assuming Aaron Jones remains out.

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Makai Lemon

PositiveBreakout39:17

Makai Lemon is coming off a mini breakout for the Eagles with seven catches, 67 yards, and a touchdown in his recent game; the source describes this as 'really encouraging' and notes he provides a discernible floor. His ranking depends on the availability of DeVonta Smith and Donovan Wicks, but the smoke around Smith's return is negative.

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NegativeRole43:16

Lemon is viewed as a bye-week fill-in rather than a proactive start for the rest of the season; while first-round rookies often break out in the second half of the season, Lemon's emergence has been driven by injuries to Devontae Smith and Tamion Wicks rather than organic role growth, and Tanner McKee's arrival at quarterback may not significantly help given Jalen Hurts' apparent lack of trust in him earlier in the season.

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Matthew Golden

NegativeMatchup40:21

Matthew Golden did not produce against the Lions despite the matchup being perceived as favorable for pass catchers; he should have had a couple of catches that would have improved his and Jordan Love's day, but the Lions' defense, particularly with Brian Branch's return, is becoming less exploitable.

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PositiveBust44:49

Golden failed to produce against the Lions despite being in position to have a strong game; he leads the league with seven dropped targets on the season and had at least one end zone target he failed to convert, meaning he could be a top-five fantasy wide receiver if not for his drop issues; he's compared to Dontavian Wicks in that he excels at getting open but struggles with ball security.

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Melvin Gordon

NegativeValue47:31

Ranked RB19 in ECR, behind both Rondre Stevenson (RB17) and Tony Pollard (RB18) in same-game running back comparison.

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Ollie Gordon II

PositiveProjection22:54

Gordon has scored a touchdown in four straight games and has been RB 18 in fantasy points per game since the Devon Achane injury; the source prefers him over Tony Pollard in a Week 8 start/sit decision despite Pollard's recent 130-yard, three-touchdown performance against Cleveland, citing Pollard's inconsistency (RB 25.5 PPR before last week, only one touchdown in his first six games) and a slightly tougher Bengals running game matchup (seventh in EPA per rush, Dexter Lawrence effect making inside runs difficult) versus the Patriots (19th in EPA per rush).

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PositiveRole23:02

Gordon has been Mr. Consistency since taking over the starting running back spot; this consistency is being highlighted in a start/sit debate against Tony Pollard for Week 8.

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Omarion Hampton

NegativeRole50:31

Hampton doesn't have a good fit in the Chargers' offense; operating in a full-blown committee with a terrible offense. Even with potential bye week improvements, unlikely to reach eight to ten touches like Diggs; would need McDaniel to change running style or scheme to power-based approach for meaningful upside.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

PositiveValue28:51

Stevenson is ranked ahead of both Gordon and Pollard in consensus rankings. The source has him at RB17, ahead of Pollard at RB18 and Gordon at RB19, making him the preferred option among this trio of running backs in the same week's matchups.

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Stefon Diggs

NegativeRole12:00

Diggs has been in the slot on 63% of his snaps this season according to Fantasy Points data, but the source notes that with McLaurin gone, the Commanders' slot/outside distribution may shift. Diggs could move outside while Williams moves inside, or vice versa. The coaching staff has indicated Diggs' overall role won't change dramatically, though his route work sits around 70-80%, similar to last year but an uptick. The source ranks Diggs in the low-end WR2 range, suggesting he remains a solid option despite the uncertainty around his exact positioning.

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PositiveRole50:31

Diggs expected to have eight to ten touches per game going forward now that Terry McLaurin is gone; preferred over Marion Hampton in flex. Chargers' broken running game and terrible offensive line limit Hampton's upside despite potential bye week improvements.

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Tanner McKee

NegativeRole44:01

McKee's arrival as the Eagles' quarterback could potentially provide a marginal boost to Makai Lemon's usage, though the source expresses limited conviction in this outcome; McKee might help Lemon if Jalen Hurts' earlier lack of trust was the limiting factor.

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Tony Pollard

NegativeProjection22:54

Pollard came off an unbelievable game against Cleveland with almost 130 yards and 29 receiving yards plus three touchdowns, but the source cautions against starting him in Week 8 versus the Bengals; Pollard was RB 25.5 PPR before the touchdown spree and scored only one touchdown in his first six games, showing inconsistency; the Bengals defense ranks seventh in EPA per rush (versus Patriots 19th), making a repeat three-touchdown performance unlikely due to the Dexter Lawrence effect making inside runs difficult.

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PositiveProjection23:02

Pollard delivered an unbelievable game against the Browns with almost 130 yards on the ground, approximately 29 receiving yards, and three touchdowns; this performance is being used as a reference point for Week 8 start/sit discussions.

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NegativeValue25:47

Pollard is ranked RB19 and RB18 in consensus ECR, with the source ranking him at RB22. Cincinnati is the third-toughest defense against the run, while the Patriots are 23rd (closer to middle of the pack). The matchup analysis suggests Pollard faces a tougher run defense in Cincinnati compared to Gordon's Patriots matchup, though the difference is only about a point per game.

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NegativeValue47:31

Ranked RB18 in ECR, behind Rondre Stevenson (RB17) and ahead of Melvin Gordon (RB19) in same-game running back comparison.

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Zach Charbonnet

NegativeDepth Chart45:26

Charbonnet was activated off injured reserve but did not play last week, creating uncertainty about his readiness; his status affects the relative ranking of Rashad White and Emmanuel Wilson in start-sit decisions.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveMatchup58:42

The source projects Zay Flowers to dominate in his Week 8 matchup.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hello everybody welcome into the FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast I'm Ryan warmly joined by
0:06Pat Fitzmaurice and by somebody we can't really tell who it is with their costume and their mask specifically here today it's
0:13Thursday morning we're talking week 8 buys and sits before we get to our masked friend Fitz let me just like give
0:19you a moment here I'm a classy guy your team won the World Series last night I know that's not why people
0:26are here but come on let's celebrate a little.
0:28Oh thanks man yeah I guess championships in pro sports aren't just a celebration of that team and it's accomplishments kind of a celebration of fan culture.
0:36And like when the Brewers got swept by the Dodgers in the NLCS last year I like sat there and wondered whether
0:43the Brewers were ever going to win a championship in my lifetime.
0:46Like they've got a great young nucleus and the best farm system in baseball but Milwaukee is the smallest market in MLB
0:53and the Brewers are always going to be outspent by the big market teams.
0:57And I don't know when I was reckoning with that possibility that I'd never know the feeling of winning a championship I
1:03realized it kind of didn't matter because being part of the Brewers fan culture is it has enriched my life regardless.
1:09And time spent watching games and listening to Bob Uecker call games on the radio when I was a kid and going
1:16to games and tailgating in the parking lot beforehand talking about the team debating friends about who should or shouldn't be in the starting rotation.
1:23It's all been time well spent like it has enriched my life and deepened my relationships with friends and family like memories
1:29of riding Milwaukee County buses to Brewers games with friends when we were kids like those are priceless.
1:35So is the memory of taking my kids to their first Brewers game like we had a text chain going last night
1:41with me and like five or six friends and we were like someone said that a championship was our reward for having watched.
1:48And then he named like three lousy Brewers from the past and for the next 20 minutes the text thread was just
1:54filling up with the names of God awful players.
1:57We had watched where the Brewers uniform over the years but fan culture is something man and like there are fans of
2:03terrible NFL teams out there fans of like the Tennessee Titans.
2:06There are Titans fans are going to plan this coming Sunday around the Titans game and it's going to be a big
2:13event with their friends and family and some Titans fans are going to go to church early just so they can get
2:19home and watch the game that the Titans are bad doesn't matter.
2:23And it's actually going to make things that much sweeter when the Titans finally are good again.
2:28Like the Titans came within a foot of winning the Super Bowl and I can totally relate to that because the Brewers
2:34were up three to two in the 1982 World Series when I was a kid to the St.
2:39Louis Cardinals lost in seven games. I know what it was like to come close and fall short and maybe those Titans
2:46fans are wondering if they're ever going to get a Super Bowl in their lifetimes.
2:50I hope they get one someday but even if they don't man like those people's lives are going to have been they'll
2:57be better off for having watched Steve McNair and Eddie George and even some of the worst players in franchise history and
3:03having shared that experience with friends and family. So I'm babbling now but I'm just emotionally wrung out.
3:08Thank you for letting me spew and thanks to everyone watching and listening for putting up with me for a few minutes.
3:15You're out here making everybody emotional on a Thursday morning thinking about fandom and what it means to fall into.
3:21You're making me think about being an Orioles fan.
3:23I've never seen the Make-A-World Series in my lifetime and thinking about what those memories you know mean for me.
3:29So no it's wonderful. And there's I mean I was joking before the show there's no better feeling than opening day.
3:35You've actually are probably proving me wrong. There's probably no better feeling than seeing your team win the World Series.
3:41And of course we want to give you that moment to celebrate because you were the person I was thinking of last
3:47night for sure as the biggest Brewers fan in my life.
3:51And I was very happy for you that they won.
3:54Thanks buddy. Yeah of course. Jake did you enjoy hearing all that through your mask?
3:58I'm not going to do the entire because this is what I would sound like the entire show.
4:03I can't get the mic in here. But yes that was a let me sit there with the mask or should I
4:10just do the entire show like this? It's the only good thing to come from the Acolyte Star Wars TV show by the way.
4:17And it looks so good for that actually it looks really good for like a whole mask.
4:22It is a great looking mask. Yeah. It is.
4:24So like but yeah it's a little heavy but I like I wish I could have got the mic under there.
4:30I did the athletic show if anybody wants to go watch it.
4:34I did the full segment with it on because I had the little mic that I threw inside of it but I
4:40can't get this mic inside of it. So anyway back just to the Darkwing hat to represent last year.
4:46I was on here for Darkwing last year right?
4:48I should just do Darkwing. I think so. Yeah.
4:51Yeah. I think I remember that. Yeah. But anyway congratulations Fitz.
4:54Thanks Jake. Yeah. Yeah. Enjoy that. By the way it's probably extra awesome Fitz like that the Brewers were the best team in the regular season too.
5:02It just feels like a coronation of like this is a particularly great group of players.
5:07Like it wasn't like oh you snuck in as an 85 win team and then went on a run.
5:12Those are still amazing of course and you would celebrate it just the same.
5:16But you won 103 games in the regular season.
5:19Best regular season record this year. And also then had this awesome playoff run.
5:23It's got to be pretty special to pair those two together.
5:26I got a little evil on Twitter last night.
5:29I was like I hope people you know everyone thinks Milwaukee is a great story now.
5:34But I hope people start to hate us because we've got this great young nucleus and then we've got all these great farm players coming up.
5:41Like I hope we get to be like the Dodgers where people are just sick of us.
5:46You will not find me hating you because on my Dynasty Baseball League team I have both Jackson Churio and Jesus Mate.
5:53So I will be very invested in the Brewers future going forward here.
5:56Let's get into some football talk. You know it's not a bandwagon team so that's the good thing too.
6:02Yeah for sure. Let's get into some football talk here.
6:05Reminder for everybody all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com.
6:10Slash rankings. Guys we're going to start off as we always do with some popular waiver ads this week.
6:15And I will ask you if you are considering starting these guys this week.
6:19There were some names here that were at the top of waiver list that we had already talked about in the section a week ago.
6:27Like Omar Cooper was still on there depending on if he was available in your league or not.
6:32I didn't want to repeat it. So these are a couple of different names here.
6:36The number one though I felt was a pretty clear choice Jake.
6:40Jonah Coleman as a waiver ad this week if he was available in your league.
6:44He was you know one of those top priority guys.
6:47Are you interested in starting this Broncos running back this week against the Chiefs?
6:51No. But I mean you might need to and he'd be of the Broncos running backs the highest.
6:56I would rank them. I do have him rank the highest but I am at 30.
7:01I'm behind like Rico Dowdle in a timeshare. I'm behind Blake Corum in a timeshare.
7:05Braylon Allen that's with Brees Hall in my rankings.
7:08And it just comes down to the fact that it's the Sean Payton offense for one.
7:13We talked about on the waiver show Fitz and I did and I agree with him that Coleman has the highest upside.
7:19But we just don't know the guarantee that it's actually here yet.
7:23We think it is. It should be here. He has the best talent.
7:26He's more explosive than J.K. Dobbins. But what's the passing game like he did have two targets two receptions in that game.
7:33But is it still going to be that kind of workload or is this a game against the Chiefs where maybe it's more R.J.
7:40Harvey. The Chiefs run defense is something to be concerned about in general.
7:44So it comes down to the fact that like if this was the Broncos going against even the Chargers with how bad
7:50they've been or the Colts or somebody like that.
7:53I actually have Coleman higher. It just really comes down to the uncertainty of Sean Payton and then to the matchup is playing a part.
8:00Yeah, he is RB28 in consensus rankings. So just a couple spots ahead of where Jake has him.
8:05Fitz, where are you at on Jonah Coleman for this week?
8:08I'm at RB28 and I'm maybe where Jake is where I don't think he's like a proactive start.
8:14But in a week with four teams on bye and injuries, maybe you have to play him.
8:19And yeah, like it was I guess it was encouraging to hear Sean Payton sort of talk about.
8:24Yeah, we need to use him more, although I ran his comments through the Sean Payton translator.
8:29And that means he's getting six carries this week.
8:32But yeah, you would think that he's going to play the most of the Broncos backs like it was his first game
8:38off IR last week and he played 30 snaps and RJ Harvey played 16 and JK Dobbins played 14.
8:43And he's just better than JK Dobbins. You can see it.
8:47I mean, it's only been a couple of games, but Jonah Coleman has had almost a quarter of his runs go for 10 or more yards this season.
8:55And the league average is like 10 percent. So the Chiefs, not an easy matchup, but I also don't think that the Chiefs run defense is impregnable.
9:03They're like eighth in DVOA against the run and 13th in EPA per rush.
9:07And Emmanuel Wilson just had 100 yards and a touchdown against them last Sunday night.
9:11And I think Jonah Coleman's better than Emmanuel Wilson.
9:14Yeah, he's in that range where it's it's like you're maybe not ecstatic to be starting him, but eventually you just run out of other options.
9:21I mean, there's four teams on by injuries of the position, you know, like the two names right after him in ECR, like Saquon and Jeremiah Love, right?
9:30Like you can feel the injuries impacting these rankings if you're here for week eight.
9:34So, yeah, Jonah Coleman, I think, is really interesting one.
9:37Rest of season, just very quickly. How are you guys ranking Jonah Coleman in terms of just like the upside for over
9:43the course of the rest of the year? Do you think this will be his backfield moving forward fits?
9:49I do. I mean, it's going to it's a Sean Payton backfield, so it's going to be a two or three man operation the whole year.
9:56I've got Jonah Coleman RB 26 in rest of season rankings.
10:00Jake, rest of season for you. It sounds like a fair spot because I was going to say fringe low end RB 2 is the potential.
10:07I think best case is you get the RB 2 version of Mark Ingram, not the RB 1 version, but like the
10:14RB 2 version of Mark Ingram and Sean Payton's offense.
10:17So I think that potential is still there. Like there's the upside to get inside the top 18 at best, I think.
10:23The other guy I wanted to ask is Antonio Williams, rookie receiver for Washington.
10:27Washington, obviously not somebody who played last week, but we had the Terry McLaurin really bad injury out for the season the week before.
10:34This is the first opportunity to start a guy like Williams if you picked him up off waivers after that injury.
10:40Ranked a little bit lower than the guys we usually talk about in this section.
10:45He's wide receiver 40, so that's not typically as much of an obvious potential guy to start.
10:50But given that he was a popular waiver pickup in the last two weeks with the McLaurin injury, I did want to bring him up.
10:57Fitz, are you interested in starting Williams at all against Philly this week?
11:01I actually am. I'm pretty well above consensus. I've got him wide receiver 33.
11:05You just figure with Terry McLaurin out with the torn patellar tendon that Antonio Williams is going to play an expanded role going forward.
11:12And he's already got 205 yards and kind of a limited role early in the season on 26 targets.
11:17Only 1.54 yards per run, but kind of a small sample size.
11:21And he's a terrific athlete. 4.41 speed, 39.5 inch vertical jump at the scouting combine, return kicks in college.
11:26He's just dangerous with the ball in his hands.
11:29And he was a zone beater at Clemson. So the only thing holding me back here a little bit, I feel like
11:35Antonio Williams is the logical slot guy for the commanders now.
11:39But so far, Stefan Diggs has been in the slot on 63% of his snaps this season, according to Fantasy Points data.
11:45Antonio Williams only 49%. But they also haven't played a ton of those snaps together.
11:49So I don't know. Maybe Diggs mostly plays outside now with McLaurin gone, or maybe it's Williams who moves outside.
11:55They're both sort of versatile as far as whether they can play inside or outside.
12:00And you want the slot guy against the Eagles because they have been a slot funnel.
12:04Cooper DeGene not having a good year. Quinion Mitchell still tough.
12:08So I want the slot guy for the commanders.
12:10And if I knew it was going to be Williams, I'd feel a little bit more confident in this ranking.
12:16Would you rather Fitz star Antonio Williams at receiver or Chick Oconqua at tight end?
12:20I like both. Relative to position, probably Oconqua. Jake, what do you think?
12:24What are you expecting from this offense this week?
12:27Echo a lot of what Fitz said with the situation.
12:30And that's kind of why we already heard, I think, Quinn and some of the others, the coaching staff, have said that
12:36Stefan Diggs' role isn't going to change a ton.
12:39And that also included not necessarily 90% of the route works, kind of similar.
12:43It's still an uptick from last year, what we saw with Diggs.
12:46But where Echo, like what Fitz was saying is that, yeah, you want to target that.
12:51I was going to say, you want to target this against the Eagles.
12:55You always do want to target this against the Eagles.
12:58But because it's more of like that 70% to 80% route work is that maybe he just comes off the field.
13:04Williams stays on with Burks and then they rotate back off and then all three of them are on the field.
13:10But I think that as much as Burks is behind both of them by far, like I have Diggs pushing.
13:16He actually is in the low-end wide receiver twos.
13:19I'm slightly behind Fitz on Williams, but I still have him in the mid-30s.
13:23But Burks is way behind both of them just because of the talent of those two.
13:27So I really think they fit better, especially, again, this matchup.
13:30I don't want Burks going against Mitchell or anything on the outside.
13:34I mean, Mitchell might spend some time on Diggs just because who the hell cares about Burks.
13:39But all that being said is I think that it's a valid concern.
13:43At the same time, it might not be as bad as people might think because they replicate each other so much that
13:49it just might be a share and that Diggs stays Diggs, which is fine.
13:53He's a fringe wide receiver too, but that actually helps Antonio Williams.
13:57And I would – I actually differ on that one part.
14:00I would take Williams definitively over Okonkwo. Okay. Where is Okonkwo ranked for you at tight end this week, Jake?
14:06We're not talking about him later in the show.
14:0815th. 15th. I'm sorry, Fitz, did you give me a ranking on Okonkwo?
14:12Where is he for you? Oh, I did not.
14:15I think he's inside of the top 15. I've got Okonkwo at – I think he's 14th in ECR.
14:20Oh, he's exactly 15 for me. Sorry. Sorry. Okay.
14:23So you guys are both just one spot behind.
14:26All right, Jake. Let me stick with you here to plant your flag on a player for this week.
14:31Yeah. I'm going to go quarterback because a lot of people are getting a lot of questions in the comments.
14:37I just did the live chat over the athletic and a lot of people are like, ooh, I don't feel so good about it.
14:44This quarterback – and it's Jared Goff, which by the way, I tweeted – so two things.
14:49I tweeted out earlier this week. There's only two quarterbacks that have hit 16 plus fancy points in all their starts.
14:55Josh Allen and Jared Goff. Those are the only two.
14:58The other part about it is that the defense for the Vikings has been great.
15:02They are the league best EPA per drop back allowed at 0.18.
15:06They're ridiculous pressure rate. But here's why I say I'm planting my flag on Goff and not being concerned.
15:12They allow the fourth lowest pressure rate, 34%, against five plus defenders coming.
15:15Not four, not three, five. As in there's always an extra man and they're still only allowing 34.8% rush rate.
15:21Also, Jared Goff went under pressure, seventh best EPA for drop back this season, and ninth best since his second year starting
15:28with the Lions to go back that far. So he's good under pressure.
15:31The Lions are good under pressure. We've seen the Lions last year.
15:35They know floors. They pick up the blitz very well.
15:38I say all to say like I'm just not concerned about Jared Goff this week.
15:42I have him solidly as a QB1 inside the top 10.
15:45Yeah, let me double check to see where he is in consensus.
15:49Yeah, he's outside the top 10. I'll just note that in his one home game against the Vikings last year, Goff had 284 yards and two touchdowns.
15:57Yeah. He's QB12 in consensus. Yeah, I think it's a good call.
16:00Sorry, I was going to say to reference back our waiver show, my streamer of the week was Jacoby Brissett.
16:06I would start him over Jacoby Brissett. And Jacoby Brissett, by the way, in games with 37 plus, I'm going to jump hit.
16:13I'll save that. I think, did you put Jacoby Brissett?
16:16We will have Brissett later in the show, yes.
16:18I'll save that. Yeah, I'll save that one. Brissett is ranked higher than Goff, though, just to your point about you'd rather start Goff.
16:25Because I knew that part. So I didn't realize.
16:28I wasn't sure if you ended up putting him in there.
16:31No, I did. 37 might come up again. Yeah.
16:34Yeah, I mean, Goff, I think it's an interesting call, too.
16:37Like, especially Fitz, like, to the point of, I think the reputationally, Jared Goff, you think of, like, oh, he's a statue back there.
16:44If you can pressure him, knock him off his spot, then you can take advantage of it.
16:49But those numbers Jake are throwing out is kind of showing that actually they are doing pretty well against pressure, both in
16:55terms of just when they are getting blitzed and also when he actually is under pressure, which would be the big concern in a game against the Vikings.
17:04So where are you at in ranking Goff this week?
17:07Yeah, he gets the ball out quick. And he's also got weapons that can help mitigate the effect of the Vikings defense with Amon Ross St.
17:14Brown and Jameer Gibbs and Jamison Williams and Sam Laporta.
17:17I've got him ranked 12 right now. And I could maybe come up a little bit on that.
17:22Like, that feels too low. Goff was my most drafted quarterback.
17:26And in all the leagues where I have Jared Goff, I am playing him this week.
17:30Okay. Yeah. I think it's a good way to put it.
17:33Fitz, you have a slightly smaller name for your Flant Your Plag player this week.
17:38Yeah, I'm pandering to you and Jake. It's Jacoby Land.
17:41Because Jake and I... Oh, he just said Flant Your Plag.
17:44Did he? Oh, did I? I didn't even notice.
17:47Just, David, go ahead. It threw me off because that is Flant Your Flag Player.
17:51And so the P's and the F's kind of, sorry, the PL's.
17:54It just said Flant Your Plag Player. I didn't even notice I did that.
17:59Go, go, Fitz. Leave it in there. That was amazing.
18:01Yeah, for sure. Leave it in. Yeah. So I know Worm is excited about this guy.
18:06I know Jake and I have been talking about him on the Waver Show for weeks.
18:11And I think Jake and I will be talking about Jacoby Lane as one of our top ads on next Monday's show.
18:17So he's been back from a wrist injury that he sustained in week one for a couple of games now.
18:23And Jacoby Lane has had seven catches for 65 yards on 10 targets in those two games.
18:28Modest numbers, for sure. But he was playing with Tyler Huntley.
18:31And the encouraging thing in his most recent game, Lane played 68.7% of the Ravens' offensive snaps.
18:36Basically about as many as Rashad Bateman. But he's going to play.
18:40And he is now going to get to play with Lamar Jackson.
18:43I can't wait to see what these two can do together against the Bills in a game with a Vegas total of 54.5.
18:50And Jacoby Lane was drawing rave reviews in training camp.
18:53It's kind of been forgotten since he's off the map because of that wrist injury.
18:57But I know Ravens' longtime beat writer, Jameson Hensley, said that Lane had one of the most impressive training camps he can
19:04ever remember from any rookie at any position. And so, like, I don't know.
19:08I was not especially high on Jacoby Lane in pre-draft season.
19:11But everything I heard about him, all the reporting coming out of Ravens' training camp was like, yeah, this kid is a player.
19:18So couple him with Lamar Jackson, and I can't wait to see what happens.
19:22I think he could have a big game this week.
19:25As you might recall in that week one game before he hurt his wrist, they did throw him a touchdown, and it got called back on penalty.
19:33But the first time they got in close and through, because obviously they had big plays to Zay or ran the ball with Derek Henry.
19:40But the first time they decided to throw near the end zone in that week one game, first game of his career, they were targeting Jacoby Lane.
19:48And I think you notice, too, like, not that most leagues are, you know, point-per-first-down leagues.
19:52There are some of those types of leagues out there.
19:55If you're in any sort of league like that, like, it is clear when you're watching these games that on third down,
20:02they want to throw the ball to Jacoby Lane and give him a chance to make a play to move the sticks.
20:08Like, they have a level of trust in him in those scenarios that I think is, like, really kind of screaming through
20:15the TV when you watch these games even right away.
20:17Obviously, the overall usage is still not that high.
20:20Just quickly, Fitz, before we go to Jake, where is he ranked for you?
20:24Because obviously he's ranked pretty low overall. He's wide receiver 48 at the position.
20:28Yeah, I am at wide receiver 39. Okay, so about, you know, 10 spots higher-ish.
20:33Jake, what do you think about Jacoby Lane this week?
20:36Yeah, I would take credit for having Fitz come around on this because when we did the waiver show, I went Coleman
20:42Cooper Lane as my top pickups of the week.
20:45I'm obviously saying that tongue-in-cheek. But I think that if you look at Lane, when he came out, I don't know if
20:51this makes me higher than you coming out of college, Fitz, or not.
20:55But just the comparisons, I want to give these.
20:57I said best-case scenario, T. Higgins. Worst-case scenario, Donovan Peoples-Jones.
21:00The middle of the road and what probably is the most likely outcome but might even still get to T.
21:06Higgins' level is Torrey Smith of what he used to be with the Ravens.
21:10I think that's what we're looking at right now.
21:13So everything that Fitz says completely echoed. If you want to go back and watch the waiver show, we both talked about him on there.
21:20But the biggest thing, too, is he actually, to the stat that Fitz threw out, he also ran one more route than Bateman in his first game back.
21:28The real concern was, like, is it going to take time?
21:32And it was the first game back, as Fitz said, with Huntley and not even Lamar Jackson yet.
21:37So I actually have him, like, 37. He's almost a wide receiver three for me this week.
21:42So, like, he's facing Buffalo. And I got to tell you, Fitz, like, my rankings, I'm going back and forth and back
21:48and forth of whether I would start Lane or I'm not going to just go off one game of feeling good about it, a Dunze facing the Seahawks.
21:56Yeah. Yeah, they're four spots apart for me. But same tier kind of range?
22:01Yes. I think that's a big testament just to say even the same tier as a Dunze.
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22:51Guys, let's go to some start sit player debates here.
22:54I want to start with one at running back.
22:57Ollie Gordon versus Tony Pollard. Pollard, of course, coming off of an unbelievable game against the Browns.
23:02Almost 130 yards on the ground. Another 29 or so, I think it was.
23:06Receiving three touchdowns. Huge day for Tony Pollard. Ollie Gordon has been Mr.
23:10Consistency since taking over the starting running back spot.
23:12For Miami has been just in that kind of RB 13 to RB 17 range.
23:17I think pretty much every single game the last four times he's played.
23:21Who are you guys going with here? Fitz, I'll start with you.
23:24Ollie Gordon or Tony Pollard? I would have to.
23:27Man, I'd hate to have to make this call.
23:29I'd probably just flip a coin, honestly. After great consideration, I'm going to go with Ollie Gordon because he has scored a
23:36touchdown in four straight games, whereas Tony Pollard scored three touchdowns last week, but it scored only one touchdown in his first six games.
23:43And Pollard was running back 25 and a half point PPR before the touchdown spree against Cleveland.
23:48Ollie Gordon has been RB 18 in fantasy points per game since the Devon Achan injury.
23:52And I think the Bengals are maybe a slightly tougher running game matchup than the Patriots, which would have seemed completely inconceivable a year ago.
24:00The Bengals defense is one spot ahead of the Patriots in EPA per rush.
24:04And the gap's a little bigger in DVOA. Bengals are seventh, Patriots 19th.
24:08It's the Dexter Lawrence effect. It's really hard to run inside against the Bengals now.
24:12And I don't think you're going to see Tony Pollard get three touchdowns against the Bengals this week.
24:17So I'll go with Gordon. This is Pat Fitzmaurice.
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25:55I love hearing that you are kind of aching over making a pick like this.
25:59That means that I did a good job picking these players.
26:02I always worry I'm going to come in and you go, what are you, stupid worm?
26:07This is the easiest one ever. Why did you even ask this?
26:10There are a few of those every week. Don't worry.
26:13I'm sure they pop up as always. I do the best I can.
26:17But yeah, these guys are back-to-back in ECR for what it's worth.
26:21RB18 and RB19 respectively. Gordon has moved up a couple of spots in the last two days to bridge that gap.
26:27For you, Jake, who would you prefer? What are you, stupid?
26:30I have Gordon at 19 and Pollard at 22.
26:33Actually, so adjusted points allowed that I have over the athletic.
26:36Actually, Cincinnati's third toughest against the run. And if you jump up to the Patriots, they're 23rd.
26:41But it's a point-per-game difference in the fact that Patriots are more close to the middle of the pack.
26:46And to what he said about Dexter Lawrence and everything is running up the middle, they continue to get pressure and getting hit in the backfield for opponents.
26:55And it just comes down to – I brought this up on the podcast.
26:59It's like Olly Gordon when he came out of college was like, are we going to get sophomore Olly Gordon?
27:04That was like, we're talking first-rounder. After the sophomore season, everybody was like, in two years, Olly Gordon's going to be a first-round draft pick.
27:12And then his junior season happened, everybody was like, no, he's not.
27:15And then it went so bad that we saw what happened.
27:19And since he's been in the NFL, it's been basically his junior season.
27:22But we're starting to see some flashes. I'm not going to say he's fully on with his sophomore year.
27:28But I had some hesitancy because of what we saw in that final year and what we've seen in the NFL.
27:34But it's really turned the corner. Jalen Wright got banged up again.
27:37I know it sounds like he's practicing, but he's banged up again, which is just like – He's essentially turned into Braylon Allen for the Dolphins.
27:45So just start him as a top-20 running back and enjoy it.
27:49Olly Gordon, I'll point out here, in half PPR scoring – I was even underselling him a bit.
27:54He's been RB13, RB12, RB13, and RB14 in his four games getting the workload.
27:58He's actually got – he's inside the top five in explosive run rate since he's been starting.
28:03Which is also like – that's even better than Braylon Allen.
28:06Like, as in – he's got that going for him too.
28:09Why do you think, Jake, that he's ranked as RB19 in this week's consensus rankings if he's been five spots plus ahead
28:16of that every week he's been the starter? It's twofold.
28:19It's the hesitation of – people don't want to trust Olly Gordon.
28:22It's the same thing we did with Bryce Young at the beginning of the season.
28:27It's like we've seen enough that it's like you really have to pull back into getting that faith into what's been productive on the field.
28:34And then two, it's still the Dolphins. Yeah. Like, it's the Dolphins offense.
28:38Like, you could get 18 touches in the Dolphins offense and not even get a touchdown or half a decent day just because the offense is falling apart.
28:46Fitz, if I had asked you Gordon or Ramadre Stevenson, who would you have said in this same game?
28:51Stupid. I've got Ramadre ranked higher. Ramadre is ahead of both of these two.
28:55He goes, Ramadre at 17, Pollard at 18, Gordon at 19.
28:59So that's why I went – Where do you have Stevenson?
29:0217. Where do you have Stevenson? 17? 17. Okay.
29:04And at 16. So. Okay. Yeah. So, again, stupid question.
29:07Let's go to another running back debate here. A little bit further down in the rankings.
29:12How about Jordan Mason or Blake Corum? This is when these guys are two spots apart in ECR.
29:17One's RB22. One's RB24. So both back end RB2s.
29:20Jake, who do you prefer between Mason or Corum?
29:23Tired of these stupid questions. Now, this one I think should change to kind of closer where I have it because I've gone into these rankings.
29:30This entire week assuming no Aaron Jones because it's at least a week if not two according to Twitter doctors and everything like that.
29:37But even so, they said it's similar to the injury from before.
29:41It's related at least. And I just don't think he's playing.
29:44So, I have Jordan Mason at 15. I'm starting a potential bell cow running back against the Lions.
29:49I know it's not as great as passing it is against the Lions.
29:53But Jordan Mason, as soon as Aaron Jones got hurt in that game, was basically the bell cow.
29:58And then Jones came back in a little bit.
30:01But I think that you're just looking at potential 70% or more of the workload in a match that we expect and
30:07hope to be somewhat of a shootout. Maybe the Vikings and Kyler Murray side of things can do a little bit better than this one.
30:15But that's just really what it comes down to.
30:17I like Blake Coram a lot and we know what he can do.
30:21But if it's a six-touch game and he just doesn't happen to break one off, which I know he's always a threat to do.
30:28But if he doesn't, six, seven touches still is going to be a very mediocre day.
30:33He can do it on any of those touches.
30:35But I'm going to take almost three times the touch volume any day of the week over somebody with as much upside as Coram has.
30:43You told me Coram and Mason were both going to get 15 touches.
30:46I take Coram 10 times out of 10. It's just the volume.
30:50Sure. This was one where I did look at your rankings, Jake, and I knew that you had Mason pretty high.
30:56So I did expect there to be a bit of a gap for you on this one.
31:01Fitz, I'm curious, where you come down on Mason versus Coram?
31:04Right now I've got Coram three spots higher. And I have Aaron Jones playing.
31:08It's going to be a tougher call for me if Aaron Jones sits.
31:12But it's still going to be close and I still might actually go Coram.
31:16So last week in the Rams' first game without Devontae Adams, Blake Coram had a season-high 18 touches.
31:21And I don't think that's a coincidence. The Rams need to lean hard on their running backs with no Devontae.
31:27They just can't, you know, let Stafford drop back 40 times.
31:30So I think the touch floor is raised for Coram.
31:33I don't know if there's... I guess he could get a six-touch game, but I would like to think the floor is more like 10.
31:41Also, the Rams just have a far better offense than the Vikings.
31:44Like, not even close. And as for the matchup, I know the Lions' run defense hasn't been as good as it's been
31:51in the past when they were kind of a must-avoid matchup.
31:54But this year, they're 21st in EPA per rush, 22nd in DVOA against the run.
31:58But they've been better at home against the run at Ford Field.
32:02They're giving up 69.7 rushing yards per game at home.
32:05So this is kind of a different beast. And I just think the defense overall is a different beast when Brian Branch is in the lineup.
32:12So slight edge to Coram here. I do wonder, Fitz, to your point, like, if we might sort of discover very quickly
32:19that Blake Coram is entering into that borderline must-start territory as long as Devontae's out.
32:23Like, if that sort of volume continues, I do think he will end up being very regularly ranked in an area where it's not even really...
32:31I'm not saying he's going to be top 10 every week when Kyron is healthy.
32:35But, like, I think he might get into an area where it's, like, becomes less and less of a question of, you
32:41know, like, how can you possibly sit this guy if this volume really does keep up as long as Devontae's out?
32:48Because I kind of anticipated playing out something close to that way as well, Fitz.
32:52I love watching him play the way he just takes a handoff, kind of pauses for a second and takes the measure
32:58of the, you know, what the defense is showing.
33:01And then just explodes into whatever lane he's aiming for.
33:04Another guy, too, who, you know, he's ranked, like I said, RB24.
33:07He's been inside the top 15 three straight weeks in half PPR scoring with what he's done so far.
33:13But, of course, I think, obviously, if Aaron Jones is out, Mason makes a whole lot of sense, too.
33:18That's why I put them together. I'm sorry, Fitz, where did you say Mason will be ranked if Aaron Jones does end up out?
33:26I know you said you'd bump him up. Right now I've got Coram at running back 23, and I think Mason will
33:32either be right behind him or maybe I'll change my mind.
33:35Right there. Well, then here, I'll give you a question.
33:38Okay. Would you start Mason with no Jones or Ashton Gentry?
33:41Still. I would start Mason. Still Gentry because he's so active in the passing game.
33:46I don't care. He doesn't find the end zone.
33:48He's not even an RB1. So that's a. Well, I think you guys are reversed on this, but I imagine, Jake, you
33:55would start those guys we already discussed. Or something, you wouldn't start the guys we already discussed, like Pollard, Gordon, Ramondre over Jordan Mason with Aaron Jones out.
34:03Meanwhile. I would start Stevenson. You would start Stevenson over, but not those other two?
34:07Yeah. Okay. Like Stevenson, Hall in the ranks, Gordon, Barkley in the ranks, and then we're talking Coram.
34:13But I'd start Coram over like Judkins or even Jeremiah Love.
34:16I think that's going to be a tough. That would be a tough one if Jeremiah Love is back.
34:21And Fitz, you're starting those Pollards and Gordons ahead of Mason or Coram.
34:25Correct. Right. Even if Jones is out. Yes. Okay.
34:28All right. Let's go to a wide receiver debate here, guys.
34:31How about A.J. Brown versus Garrett Wilson? A couple of big names coming off less than big performances.
34:36Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. A.J.
34:39Brown this week or Garrett Wilson? As bad as he's looked, I'm going to go with A.J.
34:44Brown. Sort of the undisputed number one target for Drake May.
34:47And it's Drake May, one of the best quarterbacks in the game.
34:50Whereas Wilson, maybe he gets the squeaky wheel treatment this week and gets a ton of targets.
34:55But they are targets coming from Geno Smith. The quarterback disparity is a big thing for me in this one.
35:01But it's also the Jets having multiple credible pass catchers now.
35:04Like Omar Cooper looks like a budding star. Adonai Mitchell is kind of dangerous.
35:09They've got two tight ends now. We saw Mason Taylor kind of pop off last week.
35:13And Kenyon Sadiq, who was, what, the 15th or 16th pick in the draft?
35:17So that is a lot of, I hate the too many mouths to feed cliche, but that's a lot of mouths for Geno Smith to feed.
35:25And I'd rather just go for Drake May's number one receiver.
35:28They are two spots apart in ECR. Jake, where are you at on Brown versus Wilson?
35:33Yeah, so completely different. We're in a lot of disagreement so far after celebrating the Brewers.
35:37I am not starting A.J. Brown. I have him as a fringe wide receiver too.
35:42I am down with Diggs and Metcalf. He does not look 100%.
35:45And there's been, again, Twitter doctors that have speculated that he's not going to be 100% for another week or two or
35:52possibly three now that he's limited in practice on Wednesday.
35:55And I'm not too worried about Wednesday practices. Nobody really should be at this point.
35:59We've talked about it before. Fitz has mentioned. It says more, and I agree with it.
36:04It says more if you're returning from an injury and you get a limited session in on Wednesday than it does if you're missing practice.
36:11Like, look at the Lions. Like, Dan Campbell's like, yeah, they need some time off.
36:15And so, like, we're not worried about Wednesday practices.
36:18That being said, I just – I'm watching A.J.
36:21Brown. He doesn't look right. And for – like, I think – I don't know if we did it on this show.
36:27I know I made the comparison on my podcast.
36:30But I said he's essentially so far since his return, he looks like Mike Evans, which would be like, hey, you know,
36:36you don't have the burst anymore, but at least you're a big option.
36:40You'd be a red zone threat. The problem is he's not even catching the 50-50 balls.
36:45Like, he's getting out-contested by smaller corners, too. Like, it looks like – and again, hopefully it gets right this week.
36:51Actually, this is one where, like, I hope I'm wrong because I want A.J.
36:55Brown to get right. I bought low on him in some spots.
36:58And I think that's a terrific pairing with Drake May.
37:01I said that before the season. But watching him so far, it's not only the injury.
37:06It feels like we're getting the checked-out Eagles version of A.J.
37:09Brown with this injury on top of it. And I just don't want to start him until I see it get right.
37:16And the biggest thing about it, too, is, like, the matchup.
37:19The Dolphins aren't, like, fearsome in the secondary. They're good.
37:22But they're good, and their run defense is so terrible, and everybody can just run all over them.
37:27That – also, the game where if you can get up in this one where you get a lot of Stephens and everything.
37:34Like, I don't know that they need A.J. Brown in this game.
37:37So, again, I still would say, like, I hope I'm wrong because I would love to get back in on A.J.
37:43Brown and being able to start him confidently as a wide receiver one.
37:47But I have him behind Michael Wilson, who I'm concerned about.
37:50Big concern about. Luther, Byrd, and Devontis Smith if he plays.
37:54Cook or Wilson. And D.J. Moore end up from there.
37:56So, I have Wilson at 16. I have A.J.
37:59Brown at 22. Fitz, any sort of – you know, you're talking about the quarterback matchup.
38:04Any sort of thoughts on, like, Geno Smith, a bit of a revenge against the Raiders and that leading to a bigger passing game?
38:11I didn't think about that. Got to watch. He's got, like, seven teams that could be a revenge against him.
38:17Exactly. Every game is a revenge game for Geno Smith.
38:20No, nothing on that. But, like, to Jake's point, it is fair.
38:23A.J. Brown does not look great. And on the ranking show yesterday, I made some comment about, like, as far as the
38:29separation, you could not slide a credit card in between A.J.
38:33Brown and his defenders this week. Or the last two weeks.
38:36So, yeah, I'm concerned about how bad he's looked.
38:38But sometimes, like, guys get healthier and, like, it wouldn't – would it surprise you if A.J.
38:43Brown had a 150-yard game or if Ashton Gentey had a 120-yard rushing game this week?
38:48No, because they're good players. And maybe all of a sudden, you know, they start to feel better.
38:53And, like, whatever they've been dealing with starts to lessen.
38:56And Erickson made the point to me earlier this week that he felt like A.J.
39:01Brown actually looked better in his first game back than he did in his second.
39:05And in his second, he felt like he looked more injured than he did in that first game.
39:10There was more separation, I think, in the first game.
39:13And, like, this past game against the Bears, it was just – yeah, terrible.
39:17Yeah. A little bit of extra rest this week, so maybe that helps too.
39:21The other wide receiver debate I have for us is Jordan Addison or Makai Lemon.
39:26And Lemon coming off of a little bit of a mini breakout here for the Eagles.
39:30He had his first, you know, I mean, good game.
39:33Seven catches, 67 yards, and a touchdown. Jordan Addison continues to not be very good, but he is facing this Detroit defense
39:40that has given a lot of players their best games of the season this year.
39:44They are two spots apart in ECR, both back and wide receiver three territory.
39:48Jake, start with you on this one. Jordan Addison or Makai Lemon?
39:52Yeah, I'm going to celebrate. Jordan Addison this year.
39:54And now, you know what that means, though. As soon as I do that, he's going to score a touchdown this week.
40:01Jordan Addison has one top 50 PPR performance. One.
40:03And he found the end zone. And I'm pretty sure that was the no Justin Jefferson game, if I'm not mistaken.
40:10And then he missed the game, too, that being said.
40:13But the thing that I went into this year of why I have zero Jordan Addison is because Kyler Murray, for his
40:19entire career, and some of it comes down to who you play with.
40:23But essentially, if you watch him play, too, he is wide receiver, tight end, wide receiver, tight end, wide receiver, tight end.
40:29He doesn't use a second wide receiver unless the tight end has been irrelevant.
40:33Like, I mean, we're talking like Gunnar Helm level.
40:36So that's what I say. It's like, I kind of saw this coming.
40:40I got plenty of things wrong. I got, you know, the tall Colston Loveland any day of the week.
40:45I got that wrong. But all that being said is it just comes down to as much as I'm joking about it right now.
40:52The truth is Jordan Addison is the clear third, if not fourth option on this team, if you include the backfield.
40:58And I just don't want a piece of that unless I'm looking for it.
41:02This is where you get it. The Hail Mary play.
41:05This turns into somehow a better shootout than we got last week.
41:09Somehow. That's why I say somehow. It's like ends up being 38, 35.
41:13And then Jordan Addison gets a big play for a touchdown.
41:16That's always on the table. But that's why he's a wide receiver four for me all the way down there.
41:22I'm just not going to ever put him back in the wide receiver threes.
41:26The only time I had them was when Justin Jefferson was banged up.
41:30But I just this is the just truth of what this offense is with Kyler Murray and the style and everything there.
41:36So I am never starting Jordan Addison. The only way that I would start him is that if Devontae Smith and Dontavian Wicks were both playing.
41:44But it doesn't look like that's the case. Fitz, where are you at on these two?
41:48Particularly Addison with that matchup against the Lions. I think you get a floor with Makai Lemon.
41:53And my ranking on him kind of depends on the availability of Devontae Smith and Dontavian Wicks.
41:58It doesn't sound like Dontavian or like Devontae Smith is coming back anytime soon.
42:02It just seems like the smoke around him is kind of bad.
42:06But yeah, seven catches, 67 yards and a touchdown last week for Lemon.
42:10Really encouraging. So yeah, there's a discernible floor. Just everything Jake said about Addison, I would echo.
42:15But I think that in two weeks or so, we are going to be not talking about the Lions as a come
42:21one, come all matchup for pass catchers. And we already started to see last week, did Jordan Love and Christian Watson and
42:27Matthew Golden go off against the Lions? They did not.
42:30And granted, Golden should have had a couple of snags that would have made his day and Love's day a lot better.
42:37But like Brian Branch is back and Brian Branch is a big difference maker, the safety.
42:41And now apparently Kirby Joseph is getting ready to practice coming off IR.
42:45So Lions might have the best pair of safeties in the league.
42:49And when both of those guys are back, people are not going to be picking on the Lions the way they used to be earlier in the season.
42:57So yeah, this is a pretty snap call for me, Lemon over Addison.
43:01Rest of season, Fitz. Makai Lemon, are you intrigued by, you know, we often see these first-round rookies break out in the second half of the season.
43:09Obviously, the offensive environment is not that friendly for him.
43:11Where's your head at in terms of rest of season, Makai Lemon as a target?
43:16Not with Tanner McKee. Like I just can't get excited.
43:19More like bi-week spackle than actually someone I'm proactively starting.
43:22Okay. That's very similar mindset for you, Jake. Similar.
43:24I was also kind of missed the beginning of that question, admittedly, because I was looking it up at.
43:30No, no. Because I was looking it up at.
43:32Rest of season, Makai Lemon was the question. Just sort of your head at.
43:37Like just where he is in general? Yeah, just generally as a rookie, second half of the year, we often see those guys break out.
43:44But yeah. I don't know that anybody wants my answer because they're going to say it's just clouded because I'm a Makai Lemon fan.
43:51And I like campaigned for him this entire preseason campaign and like told people to just be patient and wait for the middle of the season.
43:58And we're there. But that being said, that's the truth.
44:01With most rookies, even first rounders are second half of the first season kind of guys.
44:06It's happening because of injuries. Admittedly, that's why I say people don't want to hear.
44:10But like admittedly, it's happening. Like if no Devontae Smith injury and Tamion Wicks, probably don't want to see that much from
44:17him at this point because he just wasn't getting mixed into it.
44:20McKee actually might help a little bit just because maybe Hurts just never gave Lemon the trust and just was one of those.
44:27It's an Aaron Rodgers type thing. It's like you lost my trust.
44:31I just don't want to use you yet. But it's enough to say that like if one of the two are out,
44:37why receiver for the rest of the season? I was going to say so.
44:41I was looking up when Fitz brought it up.
44:44The most dropped targets, like actual drop, not like as in like, oh, it was a contested catch.
44:49The most dropped targets on the season, Matthew Golden was seven.
44:52Like he could, Matthew Golden could be, and this is why he could be a top five fantasy wide receiver right now if not for those drops.
45:00Weirdly, he reminds me of Dontavian Wicks and that he's great at getting open but not so great at actually catching the ball.
45:07Yeah. And one of them was an end zone target too, and it was just like he probably has another two touchdowns
45:13on the table if it's not for the drops.
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45:34How about Rashad White versus Emmanuel Wilson, Fitz? I was going to say it hinges on whether we see either Zach Charbonnet or Jadarian Price.
45:42Charbonnet activated off-fire, didn't play last week. Not sure if that means that he just isn't right yet.
45:47And Jadarian Price, I think, has been, they said he's going to return to practice.
45:51But I'm just going to go with Rashad White because I liked the matchup for Wilson against the Bears.
45:57I like it a little less now that they've traded for Jeffrey Simmons.
46:01Do you think he'll play this week? I think he'll play some, probably not a full set of snaps, but I would imagine he'd play early rushing downs.
46:09So, um, makes me like Emmanuel Wilson a little bit less.
46:12We didn't really have time to react to the Simmons trade at the top of the show because somebody wanted to talk
46:18about the Brewers winning the World Series. But, um, Fitz, what was your reaction to somebody in that division?
46:24Show starts six minutes in or whatever. Uh, I admire the chutzpah of Ryan Poles, the Bears GM, for making this deal.
46:30But they basically gave up the same, same price that the Packers paid to get Micah Parsons.
46:35And Micah Parsons was, what, three, three years younger.
46:38And I think just maybe more impactful. It's a steep price to pay.
46:42I'll say that. It's, it's a great fit for what the Bears need.
46:45And it makes them like a very, very, very serious contender in my opinion.
46:50But having said that, I pretty much as a blanket rule, don't like trading two firsts for a defensive player.
46:55Like, it's just really hard for that to look good in hindsight.
46:59The player has to be unbelievable, which maybe Simmons will be.
47:02He's a really good player. Um, Jake, where are you at?
47:05Yeah, I think this is enough of an impact.
47:08I would expect them to be out there. A decent chunk in the first game is defensive.
47:13So that's always different too, especially if somebody is like him.
47:16It's enough that we're going to start thinking about.
47:19We already were. The Bears were a better defense than expected.
47:22They're middle of the pack. But now it's one that's like, ooh, maybe the running backs.
47:27This is now a tiebreak where if you have two close running backs, you're like, well, I want to avoid the Bears.
47:33We could actually be talking about that going forward.
47:36But yeah, the steep price. Funny thing is, like, what if this happens next year?
47:40Because we're on track where the Colts could potentially be giving up the number one pick, having traded a year before after
47:47that happened the year before with the Bears doing.
47:49Like, so, and like, we're going to get, I wonder if we're going to continue to see, like, the first pick was
47:56traded the year before, which is maybe they'll stop doing that.
47:59Yeah. Does that impact how you're ranking these two against each other, Rashad White, Emmanuel Wilson?
48:03No, I had White ahead, period, already. Okay. Because the Eagles don't scare me, but I do have Charbonnet in the ranks.
48:10So if Charbonnet was out, it would be close.
48:12It'd be closer, but I would still go White.
48:15All right. Let's go to Denzel Boston versus Casey Concepcion.
48:18A couple of rookie teammates on the same team, ranked relatively close to each other in ECR.
48:23Jake, I'll start with you on this one. Who do you prefer between Boston and Concepcion?
48:28Yeah, not just because of the game he's coming off of, but because of the matchup too.
48:33Concepcion can do more things against the Steelers or should be able to do more things against the Steelers matchup with opportunities
48:39outside and getting them inside, that being Boston. Boston has the higher ceiling because all it takes is, you know, he gets those 40-yard plays.
48:46Like, he could have had two last week and we wouldn't even be like, oh, it's so disappointing in Boston.
48:52But Concepcion barely ahead of Boston. I have them both as mid-wide receiver threes, so it's not a big gap.
48:58This one's super close for me. They're both inside the top 30 on consensus fits.
49:02Who do you prefer? Yeah, I've got Boston higher.
49:05I just think he has the more valuable role and gets the more valuable targets.
49:09I mean, he's averaging 18.6 yards per catch and he just operates deeper downfield.
49:14And he had a big game, well, not a big game, four catches for 89 yards, but it was his second best
49:20yardage day of the season against Pittsburgh. And Steelers are pretty tough on slot receivers too.
49:25So I like Boston here. Teammate theme and throwing a tight end here at the flexes.
49:29How about Hunter Henry versus Travion Henderson? I actually find this to be easily Hunter Henry, but the flex rankings consensus of fantasypros.com didn't agree.
49:37So, Jake, who do you prefer between Henderson and Henry?
49:39I can't believe I'm taking a tight end over a running back.
49:43But the truth is of what Henderson is now, and for a million questions about this week, he is now a next man up.
49:50He is a next man up. You put on your bench.
49:53But if anything were to happen to Stevenson, he'd be inside the top 20.
49:57RB2, probably not top three like he was last year just because he doesn't look as good this year.
50:03There's something maybe going on with Henderson. But in this case, unless there's an injury, he's sharing touches with Corey Kiner.
50:09Not that I think that continues too much. But yeah, Hunter Henry has been valuable again.
50:14Like he kind of goes through these roller coasters, but right now it's working.
50:18Fitz? Yeah, it's a little annoying that Eli Raritan is sort of horning in on the tight end targets for Hunter Henry,
50:24but I'm still taking him over Henderson who might get four touches.
50:28Let's go to another flex here. A Marion Hampton versus Stefan Diggs fits.
50:31Diggs pretty easily for me. You just figure like he's going to have eight to ten touches a game going forward now that there's no Terry McLaurin.
50:39And I just, yeah, I have very minimal expectations that the Chargers were able to fix a broken running game on their bye week.
50:46And the offensive line for the Chargers is just terrible.
50:49They could get Joe Alt back for this game.
50:52I haven't seen Alt status lately, but the middle of the line is still terrible.
50:56I'm taking Diggs. Jake, are you giving any, you know, possible credit to the Chargers maybe turning things around somewhat here in the bye week?
51:04They would have to change their running style. And that's really what it comes down to.
51:08Is McDaniel going to do that? I would actually prefer it if McDaniel got fired because maybe we'd get a little bit
51:15more power kind of scheme for Hampton. Hampton, again, doesn't have a good fit.
51:19And I snickered because when he said eight to ten for Diggs, I was like, are we even going to get that for Hampton at this point?
51:27So we hope things change and we get, but it was a full blown committee and a terrible offense before they went into their bye.
51:34I don't know if that's fixed just by having to buy.
51:37Let's stick with the theme of teammates against each other here.
51:40How about Cortland Sutton or RJ Harvey this week?
51:43Obviously, Jonah Coleman back. We talked about that earlier in the show.
51:47Sutton or Harvey. Jake, I hear you laughing. I'll go to you first.
51:50No, that was actually fist that laugh, but I was like, oh, okay.
51:54Oh, I thought it was. Mine was a silent laugh.
51:57We're both laughing. Neither, but you know what? No, Jalen Waddell.
52:00I'll take Sutton just because what's RJ Harvey's ceiling.
52:03Like, I know the touch, like take touchdowns off the table because touchdowns are like, you know, of course they score a touchdown.
52:10But the randomness and why I say take them off the table is because the randomness for Sutton or Harvey scoring a touchdown is similar.
52:17So now I go to the matchup. He's the number one wide receiver.
52:21And that volume with Bo Nix, you just go back to last year with no Jalen Waddell.
52:26And that's why I would go for it. And RJ Harvey really needs a touchdown with Jonah Coleman now being involved.
52:32Fitz, you were the one laughing. What do you think here?
52:35Yeah. What are we going to advise the fantasy manager with their two and five team that is heavily invested in the Denver offense this year?
52:43Two wins? That might be generous. Exactly. Jake makes a fair point.
52:46I am going to go with the guy who is less reliant on Bo Nix.
52:50And that's RJ Harvey. Boy, is he though? Well, he only needs Bo Nix to dump off, which Bo Nix is usually quite willing to do.
52:58So I'm taking Harvey. One more flex here. Xavier Worthy or Kenny Gainwell, Fitz?
53:02People are still rostering Kenny Gainwell. Like, why? And I know he, because the Buccaneers ran for like 300 yards on the Panthers last week.
53:09And that's not even really an exaggeration. Gainwell had a decent day.
53:13But like, Bucky Irving is just stiff arming Kenny Gainwell into irrelevance.
53:16And Xavier Worthy, still kind of the number one receiver.
53:19Maybe Rishi Rice is back this week. But I would play Worthy even in the tough matchup against Denver.
53:25It was funny. For a half second, we said people are still rostering.
53:29I wasn't sure which name you were going to say.
53:32That's true. Both of them are ranked inside the top 40 at their respective positions for this week.
53:37So this might be a decision folks need to make in a deeper league.
53:41Jake, who do you prefer? Worthy or Gainwell? I was going to say, that's got to be with a lot of people not ranking Rishi Rice.
53:49It's Worthy with no Rice. It's Gainwell with Rice.
53:51Very strong for me. Keep it simple. Jake, you alluded to it earlier.
53:55Quarterback Patrick Mahomes or Jacoby Brissett? Brissett is ranked higher.
53:58But obviously, kind of a big name versus a guy that people maybe trust a little bit less.
54:03Who do you prefer here? Mahomes or Brissett? So I had Alfredo Brown on my podcast.
54:08And I asked him to agree with the statement.
54:10Is Patrick Mahomes just a streaming quarterback? And he gave it a full five out of five.
54:15And I couldn't even bring him down to a four by saying, what if we get Rishi Rice back?
54:21And he's like, maybe a four, but probably still a five.
54:24Bring all that up. He's like, that's where Mahomes is at this point.
54:28And it's okay. I definitely think it helps to have Rice back.
54:31But the stat I was going to give, 37 or more attempts for Jacoby Brissett.
54:36He's averaging almost 21 fancy points per game. And three of those games were with mid 40 or more pass attempts.
54:42Everybody on the planet, projection wise, thinks this is going to be a situation where Brissett's throwing potentially 40 plus times.
54:48So I'm taking Brissett anytime you tell me 40 plus.
54:51If you tell me 35 or fewer, no Jacoby Brissett.
54:54Because in those games, he's not even a top 18 quarterback.
54:57It's kind of wild to me that this game, the Cardinals Cowboys game, the total is the same as the Ravens Bills.
55:04Like we have one game with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and then one has the Cardinals involved and it's the same projected total.
55:11One has no defense. I mean, that's why, but it just, it just kind of blows my mind.
55:16Shout out to Ian Harditz. He tweeted this during this game last Cowboys game last week.
55:21Their EPA allowed is the same as the Bills EPA offense.
55:24They turn every opponent into the Bills offense. That's wild.
55:27Mahomes or Brissett fits? Let's see. Top 10 all-time quarterback or career journeyman who's averaging 5.7 yards per pass attempt this season
55:33and can't complete any sort of pass downfield. I'm going to take Patrick Mahomes.
55:37Not even a question in my mind. Like, I don't want to live on volume and garbage time.
55:42And Brissett basically is terrible until you get to garbage time.
55:46He comes out and he's, he does well with whatever they script for him, like the first series.
55:51Then he stanks until the fourth quarter and then he piles up like a bunch of yardage.
55:56And maybe he'll do that again and outpoint Patrick Mahomes this week.
55:59I would be ill starting Jacoby Brissett over Patrick Mahomes.
56:02There's no way I'm ever doing it. At tight end, Dallas Goddard or Dalton Kincaid fits?
56:07This is another one. Do I want to start the guy tied to Josh Allen or the guy tied to Tanner McKee?
56:13And before the Bills went on by, like when we last saw them, seven catches, eight targets for Dalton Kincaid.
56:19I think he only had 38 yards, but he did have a touchdown wiped off the board, which was a shame because it was his birthday.
56:27And he was playing in Las Vegas, his hometown.
56:29Um, but it was good to see Kincaid get re-involved in the Bills passing attack.
56:34And, you know, Vegas total of 54 and a half for that game.
56:38Vegas total in the Eagles game is 40 and a half.
56:41So, uh, I'm going to say Kincaid here. Uh, uh, Jake for you between Goddard and Kincaid, who do you prefer?
56:47Yeah. Kincaid, even with that game last week with McKee, Goddard, it's just hasn't been as effective without Jalen Hurt.
56:53So, and I just, not that's a huge drop off, but it's enough to Kincaid to Josh Allen in that game as well.
56:59I want a lot of players in that game.
57:02Goddard is higher in consensus. You guys are against that.
57:05He's tied in four, Kincaid tied in six. Um, Fitz has got to run.
57:09So let's quickly do our touchdown calls contest. I'm at running back.
57:13I'm going Bayshall too. And I just think the Jags are so much better than the Colts.
57:18The Colts are clearly, um, calling it on their season with these trades they're starting to make.
57:23And, uh, I think the Jags are going to absolutely smash them.
57:26And when I think the team's going to win by a lot, I'm going to trust their running back to get into the end zone.
57:33I think he, I think multiple running backs could score for them in this week.
57:38So I'll go Bayshall toot in here coming off of, by the way, getting a tight end one, right?
57:43Which I don't do very often. So I was happy to get Tucker Kraft last week, uh, trying to make it a
57:50winning streak here on the touchdown calls contest. Jake, your wide receiver.
57:53Yeah, I almost, I wanted to say both Cowboys.
57:56Cause I wanted to make up for the touchdown, getting called back on my tight end pick and then not getting Woody Marks last week.
58:03He's only had back-to-back touchdown weeks twice. And they both came in the final two games of the season for him.
58:09This would be actually the first time he does it anytime in the middle of the season.
58:14It's going to happen. I know the buy was in there, but this again, the bills, Zay Flowers, by the way, who like, yeah, this.
58:22He had a huge game against him in week one last year too.
58:25Last time I faced him. It's the bills too.
58:28And it's Zay Flowers, which is by the way, taking a whole nother step to his game.
58:33There, there are no better wide receivers that stop and come directly back to the quarterback.
58:38Like he escaped, like there's two defenders and he like pops out and squirts out.
58:42Like Zay Flowers is going to dominate this game.
58:45Fitz tight end. Let's double up on Jaguars with the touchdown calls.
58:48I'm going with Brenton Strange. Hasn't scored a touchdown since week one, but he has had 19 catchers for 207 yards over the last three weeks.
58:56He's been tight end seven and PPR scoring without a touchdown.
58:59I think he gets the touchdown this week. You just ruined it.
59:02You just jinxed him. Cause the last time we doubled up on Jaguars, he got left out.
59:07Cause I had the Parker Washington two touchdowns and then Worm got screwed.
59:11So you just screwed. Worm, he just screwed you.
59:14I'm five for seven on TD calls this season, Jake.
59:17I'm not jinxing anybody, baby. Yeah. Fitz is crushing it here.
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