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0:28What's up friends and welcome into FantasyPros. This is the Fantasy Football Podcast, Week 2 Ranks for Running Backs.
0:34I'm Chris Welsh, Pat Fitzmaurice, Andrew Erickson here. We are going to be going through the Top 36 RVs, some of the biggest questions.
0:41What does the expert consensus ranks look like? Maybe a couple deeper plays.
0:45It's a full breakdown of Week 2 for the RBs.
0:48Glad to be here with you guys. Both of you fine gentlemen ranking very well.
0:53We are going to be talking as we always do in the RB episode every single week.
0:58We give a shout out to the Ranks contest.
1:01Here's how this is going to go this week.
1:03Erickson is the boss. Fitzy was respectable. We don't need to talk about where I ranked.
1:08It's not important. Nobody cares. I'm just a dumb host here.
1:11So nobody cares. So don't even bring it up guys.
1:14But Erickson, we're going to do it here in a second.
1:18But just a shout out to you. You did have a Top 25 finish in the Ranks contest this week.
1:24So you get the captain. You get like the crown.
1:27You get to be like the captain of this episode.
1:30So congratulations, my friend. Thank you. I'm excited about the Top 25 finish, but I have to give Pat Fitzmaurice his flowers
1:36for being correct about our Derrick Henry versus Javante Williams conversation.
1:39The big dog continued to eat and feast against the Indianapolis Colts.
1:43So that's what I was thinking about. Not about anything I got right about say flowers running wild and basically being a
1:50wide receiver one in a half of play that I was just too low on Derrick Henry because that's all that matters, right?
1:57It's just what did you get wrong? How can you improve?
2:00So shout out to Fitz. He was right. I am so with you.
2:04I mean, I'm way more. I'm a lot worse about that than any of you guys.
2:09Like I am the total like you 10 things can be right.
2:12And if one is really bad, it's all I'm going to think about and it's all I'm going to think other people are thinking about.
2:20Like I did that. Remember what was my big thing this week, Erickson?
2:23Just garbage on Quinch on Judkins or this last week.
2:26It's just Judkins is going to stink. Judkins. And he did stink.
2:30And I was right. And there's just like 30.
2:33There's like two other things that was wrong that I cannot let go of.
2:37Your Xavier Worthy prop was the lock of all locks, though.
2:40The other. Not even a sweat, dude. He had no shot.
2:44But Fitzy, is there anything super positive or super negative that you're carrying over into this week from ranking last week?
2:50Is there an RB that you think you rank too low that is just killing you?
2:55Or is there like a positive take you want to have on?
2:58I mean, there weren't like a crazy amount of running backs that had like awesome value like they did at wide receiver this week.
3:05That's representative in the waivers, by the way. Waivers were depleted outside of Kalon Black were depleted at running back.
3:11But any carryover from week one into week two?
3:14Jackson Dart, I may have been too low on.
3:17I might have given the new look Dallas Cowboys defense too much credit.
3:21And Dart was just so inconsistent play to play last year.
3:24And he looked really professional in that game against the Cowboys.
3:27Like they had a lot of long drives. I think they had four scoring drives of 10 plays or more.
3:33He just played like a poised veteran. And that was not something we saw a lot of from Jackson Dart last year.
3:40So I might have to start reassessing my stance on Jackson Dart.
3:43Okay. We'll take that. And as a shout out again to the ranks contest, that is a little behind the scenes thing for us, of course.
3:51What you as the listener consume is just what the ECR is.
3:55When you go and check out the ranks on Fantasy Pros, it's powered by all the experts.
4:00But each week, you know, we've got the who was the most accurate.
4:04And this week, looking at the top three, we got a shout out.
4:08Pete Nova was number one from FF Faceoff. Number one in the accuracy rankings.
4:12Brad Evans from Valley Sports was number two. And Jacob Gibbs.
4:15Jacob Gibbs has definitely been a mainstay on this.
4:18Finishing three. That's your top three. Jacob Gibbs, Brad Evans, and Pete Nova.
4:22Big shout out to Pete Nova. And then the Fantasy Pros shout outs.
4:26Erickson got 22nd. Fitzy, you were solid in there.
4:28You almost had that crack that top 50. But Debro, Debro was the winner of all of us with a 17th overall finish.
4:35So a top 20 finish in there. So very, very good from the analysts.
4:39Very bad from the hosts. But again, that's not our concern.
4:43We're not worried about any of those things. If you guys want to follow along, go to fantasypros.com slash rankings.
4:49You can type in fantasy football, football rankings. You'll find it.
4:52And you can check out the ECR on all the different positional stuff and all of the other formats.
4:58Standard half PPR, PPR. We will be referencing half PPR on this.
5:01But if you want to follow along, go to the ranks.
5:05And that is going to take us to jump right into this.
5:08So let's get into the running back ranks. And that will take us to the RB big board.
5:14Let's look at the big board of the top 12 this week on half PPR over on Fantasy Pros.
5:19Coming in at number one, Jameer Gibbs, of course.
5:22B. John Robinson, Christian McCaffrey at three. Derek Henry at four.
5:25Jonathan Taylor at five. And Ken Walker coming in at six.
5:29The bottom half of the top 12 running backs are Gentty, Cook, Barkley, Javante Williams, Devon Aitchin, and O'Marion Hampton.
5:35So these guys are all locked. There's not a ton of questions.
5:38Anything that we're going to be focusing on is going to just be more semantics about where you rank them.
5:44Unless someone out there just had the most amazing running back draft.
5:48But I think there are a few things that we can discuss on the value here.
5:53And I think Ken Walker is a really interesting one.
5:56The Chiefs went Ken Walker, Ken Walker, and a little bit more Ken Walker.
6:00That first drive, that statement drive where Andy Reid was just like, we're just going to give it only to Ken Walker.
6:06Really showed out to all the Ken Walker truthers.
6:09But Emma Johnson looked really good. But you can see in his rank here, not only is this just like a good
6:16matchup against the Colts this week, we have matchup grades next to all of our RBs on the ranks if you want to check it out.
6:23We also have the actual like matchup stars, grades, projected points, how they perform average to like their projection.
6:29All that really great stuff is out there. This is a four-star graded matchup Ken Walker has against the Colts.
6:35But also it's that overall volume that I think has people excited.
6:39When we look at the ranks, ECR 6 here, Fitzy, you are at consensus.
6:43But Erickson, you're dropping a four bomb here. Top four overall RB for you this week.
6:48So why don't you kick us off with Ken Walker?
6:51What else is there to add? We all watched what happened on Monday Night Football when he was the complete engine to the Chiefs offense.
6:58And I don't see why that would change. Even on a shorter week, you have a great matchup against the Indianapolis Colts who could not stop Derrick Henry.
7:07Fitz pointed out that, yeah, their interior defensive tackles are older and they could not stop the Baltimore Ravens from running the football.
7:13So I think the Chiefs are going to see that and think, well, we're just going to feature our guy once again.
7:20Forced 14 missed tackles against a Denver Broncos defense.
7:23Absolutely insane. And he was operating on all three downs, right?
7:26Goal line. No Zach Sharp night to be found.
7:29I bet for a second he was going to sit on the bench and be like, oh, we're in the red zone.
7:35Time to take a break because usually I don't get red zone carries.
7:39But that's not a problem anymore because he's in Kansas City and he's catching passes as well.
7:44So given the lackluster performance from the Chiefs passing game, I think they're going to continue to lean on Ken Walker as
7:51things get kind of ramped up with Mahomes off the ACL injury with this passing game.
7:56Because that clearly is a work in progress, whereas this run game looks like it's going to be a top five unit all season.
8:03Fitzy, this is a tough one because I think there's like a we're focusing on week two.
8:08I think it's hard to disagree. I mean, you have him at six.
8:12That's fine. But like he's a relative top five RB.
8:15And I think from that perspective of starting, you just kind of lock into it.
8:19But is there anything for you from the long term perspective, especially a dynasty guy where you stare and we all know like what is it?
8:27Ken Walker hasn't gone over like what, 225 or whatever carries it is.
8:31We know he doesn't last in the season. You saw that usage.
8:35And then you also saw Emmitt Johnson, who Emmitt Johnson looked great.
8:38We had a couple of these young rookie backs that looked really good in some of that short usage role.
8:44Is there any part of you that stares at Emmitt Johnson and or the ability for Ken Walker to stay healthy and
8:51just gives you just pause or hesitation when ranking him on any week to week basis?
8:56I mean, again, you're high, you're ECR, so you're not low or anything like that.
9:00But is there anything in the Emmitt Johnson world or the injuries that pauses you for Ken Walker?
9:05I think they're going to be glad they have a competent tag team partner with Kenneth Walker because they're going to need it.
9:12I think the Chiefs offensive MO is just going to be so different this year now that they can run the ball.
9:19And we had talked about that on this show before, how Patrick Mahomes has never had a thousand yard runner since he became the Chiefs starter.
9:27And now he's got a guy who, if he stays healthy, is absolutely going to get there.
9:32And yeah, I moved up Kenneth Walker to RB5 as we were doing this.
9:36I bumped him ahead of Jonathan Taylor. The matchup with the Colts is great.
9:40Colts could not stop Derrick Henry last week. Their linebackers just looked like they were in a maze of confusion dealing with the Ravens blocking schemes in that.
9:49And I don't know how many times Derrick Henry was like one-on-one with safeties trying to tackle him last week.
9:55So, boy, things look good again for Kenneth Walker this week.
9:58They sure do. On the other end, Devon A.
10:01Chan, the Dolphins offense, it was something. And it's pretty much around.
10:04I mean, Caleb Douglas is fun and everything. But Devon A.
10:07Chan has a rougher matchup. You know, hand up to me thinking the 49ers defense was not going to be great this year.
10:14They have a poorish front line, which in theory is going to work well for A.
10:19Chan here. But they got a great running back core.
10:22Their secondary played well, like, you know, even though they lost Collins.
10:26Like, on paper, I don't know how either one of you guys kind of view this matchup A.
10:31Chan against the San Francisco 49ers. On paper for Fantasy Pros, this is given a four-star grade.
10:36He comes in as RB11. Erickson, you've got him at 10.
10:40Fitz, you've got him at 12. So, you both have him still as a RB1.
10:44But, Fitz, let's go to you. Is there any concern?
10:47Like, it's going to be – this offense is the thing that you stare at with Devon A.
10:52Chan. But it's like, even the bad offenses, they're still going to move through him.
10:57He's still going to get volume. It's going to be hard for him to not put up some type of an RB1 performance.
11:04But where does the hesitation lie maybe with Devon A.
11:07Chan against the Niners this week? I don't love the matchup as much as Artul does.
11:12It's hard to see any defense with Fred Warner as a four-star matchup for a running back.
11:17And, like, granted, the 49ers were better against the pass than they were against the run in that first game against the Rams.
11:24But still, it's not an easy run game matchup.
11:26And the Dolphins' offensive line seemed very much like a work in progress in that first game against the Raiders.
11:32The Raiders weren't playing heavy boxes or anything against the Dolphins.
11:36And there were just still no explosive runs to be found for A.
11:39Chan. I don't think A. Chan has a lot of touchdown upside in a road game against the 49ers where Miami's implied point total is 16.
11:47And it was good that he got five targets and had four catches for 30 yards in week one.
11:53So maybe the pass... I was worried that maybe the passing upside was not going to be there with Malik Willis at quarterback.
12:00It was there. They just couldn't do anything in the running game.
12:03Yeah, and this is one of those ones, too, where, like, you can...
12:07They can move Warner around. They can have him cover tight ends.
12:11Sometimes they can have blanket coverage and wide receivers down the middle.
12:14Well, against this Dolphins team, it's just Warner line up on A.
12:18Chan. You would take... Like, they could just have that.
12:21He can quarterback spy or A. Chan so he can be playing short middle.
12:25So it's a little bit tougher. Erickson, let me ask you this.
12:29You do have him slightly higher. You've got him at 10.
12:32Is there any part of either of you guys...
12:35And maybe this is not going to work for you, Erickson, because you have him at 10.
12:40But when I'm staring at the RBs, I know these are all the top 12.
12:44But it does feel like there might be a tier difference.
12:48But for me, it's at 10 when you look at the ECR and you look at Javante Williams.
12:53And then you go down to A. Chan and Hampton.
12:56And it's like, they're good. They're fine. Maybe matchups are a little bit less.
13:00I kind of feel like there might be a real RB tier break from the top 10 then moving on.
13:06But what say you? Because you have him at 10.
13:09So I'm guessing who got bumped? Did Javante Williams get bumped out of the top 10 for you?
13:15So I have Javante at 12. Hampton at 11.
13:17A. Chan at 10. And A. Chan played 88% of the snaps.
13:21Like he is a full-blown workhorse. I get that the offense is underwhelming.
13:25But you knew that when you drafted A. Chan that the Miami Dolphins had a chance to be a bottom offense.
13:31So that was part of the thesis of the play.
13:34But also that he was going to play basically every single snap.
13:38See every single opportunity in this backfield, which was basically the case in week one, even though he didn't have a big performance.
13:45But we know that he can rip off an explosive play at any given moment against any defense.
13:50He didn't have that marquee big explosive rush or receiver or reception against the Raiders.
13:55That's something that could always be part of his projection any given week.
13:58And the 49ers matchup, yep. Fred Warner is obviously the biggest part of why the defense was improved, I think, compared to last year.
14:06However, we did see the Rams before their offense really kind of fell off a cliff, ripping off some pretty big runs between Blake Corum and Kyle Williams.
14:14Blake Corum had one of the highest explosive run rates in week one at 20%.
14:18So he looked, he was shot out of a cannon.
14:21So I think that HN actually has the opportunity to rip off some of these big runs against, like you alluded to
14:28Welsh, that front four that is a little bit lighter on the 49ers defensive line that I think the Dolphins offensive line can actually create some space.
14:36If you look at the 49ers in last week, both Corum and Kyle Williams had a success rate over 45%.
14:42So I think the matchup is okay, especially when it comes to HN maybe ripping off a big run or two.
14:48He ran the second most routes among all running backs in week one.
14:52So they can be getting killed, dump off passes.
14:55Here we go. Like you're going to see him catch up a bunch of receptions, which I'm happy that we saw him
15:02not basically get totally eliminated in the receiving game with Malik Willis under center.
15:06And you brought this up, Welsh, how they could spy HN.
15:09And are they going to be able to do that with Willis too, if he's using his legs?
15:15Like wouldn't they just spy Willis? Well, yeah, that's funny that you said that too, though, because I think this is an
15:21opportunity for Willis to maybe run more. It seemed like they put the blocks on him a little bit in this last matchup.
15:28I would kind of think that Warner might be in that space where he's playing early front middle.
15:33And if HN is going out, he's going to follow him.
15:37But then to your point, that's going to lead to Willis running a little bit.
15:41So actually, from a prop perspective, I think Willis is a little bit more interesting.
15:46Niners don't have the pass rush that the Raiders had.
15:49So maybe there's a little bit more time in the pocket and for him to make a move.
15:54But at the same time, you know, he showed relative efficiency.
15:57Relative efficiency is actually adjusted completion percentage. Malik Willis was pretty garbage.
16:01But if he wants to just be super low and efficient and get the ball to age, this might be a really high.
16:08I think what we're alluding to is this actually might be a really high volume game to HN.
16:13Just what does it look like? That's the big question.
16:16I think my last point, too, with this particular matchup, and this is a little bit more of narrative street, which sometimes you got to include with rankings.
16:25Weird things happen. I know last week I was lower on Matthew Stafford, really more because of the narrative, because of the game environment.
16:32Not because because Matthew Stafford, as Fitz pointed out, destroyed the 49ers defense twice last year, which made it really scary to be lower on consensus versus.
16:40But then he went out and had a complete dud because the Rams showed up to Australia and decided, hey, we're not going to adjust our body clocks.
16:48We're just hoping that it works out. And it did not work out for them.
16:53The 49ers have to readjust their body clocks back to Pacific time because they spent an entire week in Australia.
16:59So as heavy home favorites, weird things happen, especially when you're traveling completely across the country.
17:04So I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the 49ers don't come out and dominate maybe right from the get-go.
17:09And maybe you could see Miami at least sticking around a little bit more in the matchup.
17:14So, yeah. Low-key might be a little Keelan Black involved in there as well, too, if they don't want to like overdo Christian McCaffrey.
17:22We might see some more of him if they want to keep the ball on the ground.
17:27But topic for later, I suppose, if we want.
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20:07RB2s. This is the running back 13 through 24, the big board.
20:11We've got Chase Brown at 13. Tough matchup, theoretically, I guess, after watching.
20:15Everyone talked about Houston's defense last week and then, well, that is the 13th RB.
20:19DeAndre Swift at 14. Kyron Williams, Brees Hall, David Montgomery.
20:22Bucky Irving comes in at 18. The bottom half of the RB2s, Cam Scadaboo, Ramondre Stevenson coming in at top 20.
20:29Jeremiah Love, Travis HN. Chuba Hubbard and Jadarian Price at 24.
20:32Let's all take a little stop at Bucky Irving, guys.
20:35Bucky Irving comes in as the ECR 18 on this list.
20:38The matchup grade is a one star. So it is a theoretical really bad matchup against Cleveland.
20:43Maybe not as bad as thought before, but it's still, it's giving a bad grade here.
20:48You guys are both higher on Bucky Irving than what the ranks have.
20:52Let's go to Fitzy, the resident Bucky Irving manifester from all draft season.
20:56What did you think of the usage? What did you think of the production?
21:00What do you think of this matchup for this week with Bucky Irving fits?
21:04I thought the usage was great. Bucky Irving out snapped Caney Gainwell 36-25.
21:08Ran more routes than Gainwell 21-13. Last season, Bucky only had six carries from the opponent's 10-yard line or closer.
21:14Got one on Sunday. Ran it in for a 10-yard touchdown.
21:18No Sean Tucker, though. We'll see what it looks like in future weeks at the goal line.
21:23But yeah, really encouraging. Only eight carries, 45 yards a touchdown.
21:26But Bucky had seven targets, caught all of them for 48 yards.
21:30So a really good day in PPR with Bucky.
21:32And on one hand, yeah, the Browns run defense, not a pushover.
21:36And they did a respectable job against the Jaguars running game last week.
21:40But at the same time, the Buccaneers are eight and a half point favorites.
21:44So we expect them to have a run-friendly game script.
21:47And look, Bucky Irving was banged up last year.
21:50The Tampa Bay offensive line was banged up last year.
21:53Baker Mayfield was banged up last year. Things didn't look as good as they had in 2024.
21:58Everyone's healthy now. Things looked a lot like 2024 in week one of 2026.
22:02Something I'll throw out. It's pretty interesting about Bucky.
22:05When you go and look via fantasy points, you look at success rate.
22:08He had technically, you have to do a filter here.
22:11He comes in at 16. But when you take out the guys without like, you know, there's like one or two carries.
22:18And you look at actual volume. He comes in with the 11th best success rate of RBs at over 62%.
22:24And also a low stuff rate. So if you can correlate those two things together where, you know, he is having positive
22:31production out of runs and not getting stopped behind.
22:33And he's catching balls. Like that's a, that's, it's one week one.
22:37It's only one week, but that's like a really good start.
22:40I mean, it's, it tracks similarly to like what, I mean, Javante Williams had a 61% or no, I'm sorry, 66% success
22:47rate, but he was stuffed at the line a lot more.
22:50Bucky wasn't. It was one of the lowest rates.
22:53Only DeAndre Swift. It looks like had a true lower stuff rate on there.
22:57So I'll throw that back out just as a fun stat.
23:00Erickson, uh, Fitzy's got him at 15. You got him in 17, both higher.
23:04Any, anything to add any thoughts, any excitement on Bucky Irving for this week?
23:09He looked healthy. He looked like his rookie year form, his pre-injury sophomore form, eight carries for 45 yards, right?
23:15So if he can get more volume on the ground, which you're expecting as a heavy home favorite against the Cleveland Browns,
23:21who talked about it all last week with the Jaguars, Jaguars are going to destroy the Cleveland Browns because their defense is not near.
23:28It's overrated when they play on the road every single year, it's been overrated.
23:33And where are they playing this week? On the road in Tampa Bay, in Florida, where they just got their, the doors blown off of them.
23:40They're going back to Florida, but it's going to happen all over again.
23:44So especially when you look at who's the quarterback for the Tampa Buccaneers, Baker Mayfield.
23:49Do you think he's not going to put up a 40 burger on his old team that decided to let him go and bring in Deshaun Watson?
23:57Yeah. I think the Browns, or I think that the Buccaneers are in for a good offensive day.
24:02You just almost got like John Wick. You're like, yeah, I'm thinking Baker's back.
24:06That's what you just turned into there. I'm thinking Bucky is good.
24:10Let's go to the next RB here. I think this is where things like really start to get trippy.
24:16It's Jeremiah Love. So like I've been kind of negative.
24:19You have all draft season about Jeremiah Love. I would say in the usage that you saw, there was, you know, obviously the goal line carry early on.
24:27That was kind of exciting. That looked like that's Algiers' role.
24:30But there was an obvious limitation. He is ECR 21 on this list.
24:34And this is the first time you guys are kind of like really split.
24:39And that split happens where Fitzy is slightly higher than ECR.
24:42And Erickson, you have moved him outside of a top 24 running back.
24:46So he's not an RB2 for you. So Erickson, let's go and talk with you for a second on the negative here.
24:52You have him at 26. So non-RB2, non-startable, obviously flex range.
24:56You could probably get him in there. But what did you think about?
25:00I know they're easing him into the offense. But what makes you push him off of being a top 24 RB?
25:06Seattle Seahawks defense. That's really the only reason why I'm pushing him down.
25:10Because I, what I saw in week one, exceeded my expectations for a player that suffered a high ankle sprain in the preseason.
25:17The fact that he looked so efficient running the football, six missed tackles for us on just 11 carries.
25:22And the fact that he was still produced, got that red zone carry over Tyler Algier was really positive for his season long outlook.
25:29I just don't think this is the week where you can expect two running backs in a committee to be productive against
25:36arguably the best defense in the NFL, especially heading after week one when the Broncos we thought were good.
25:42They got boat raced. The Houston Texans we thought were good.
25:45They got boat raced. Seahawks still really good defense, elite defense.
25:48And Arizona obviously plays Seattle. They play in the same division.
25:52Seattle's very familiar with Arizona, Jacoby Brissett, and this offense.
25:55So that's what has me concerned about if he is still splitting touches with Tyler Algier on 10 to 12 touches.
26:01Is he going to be able to get there and finish the top 24 running back unless he scores against a really tough defense?
26:08That's where I get concerned. So again, I'm not trying to bury him.
26:12Really like him season long because I think eventually he's going to continue to eat neat into Tyler Algier's work in this backfield.
26:19But in a committee, in a bad matchup, I'm looking to kind of shy away.
26:23Boat raced. I like that. Fitzy, I kind of went into last week's match because I was completely wrong about it.
26:30I thought the Cardinals were just going to get stomped.
26:33And that would lead to a situation where you might see Love a little bit later on.
26:38They wouldn't be able to run. So maybe they're passing the ball to Jeremiah Love.
26:42That was incorrect. But that feels like that's what we could be in for for this one.
26:47If that Seattle defense is rough and they are up offensively, if they get into that space, I think that works maybe
26:54a little bit better for Jeremiah Love so you can get involved in the pass game.
26:59But what for you has him as a top 24 back in this really, really tough matchup?
27:04I get the concern about the matchup. But if you're playing the Seattle Seahawks, don't you have to try to run the
27:10ball against them to slow their pass rush down?
27:13Don't you have to throw some screen passes to your backs?
27:16And certainly I think Jeremiah Love is better equipped to do damage on screens than Tyler Algier is like you can't let
27:23Jacoby Brissett drop back 45 times against the Seattle defense and take seven step drops.
27:27It's just not going to go well. So I think we're going to see Love used quite a bit.
27:33Like Erickson said, I think, you know, Tyler Algier out snapped Love 44 to 32 in week one.
27:39We're going to see things start to move the other way with Love out snapping Algier slowly, but surely.
27:44And the good thing is with Love, if you're an investor on those 32 snaps, he touched the ball.
27:50Well, he got either a carry or a target on 47% of those snaps, 15 carries plus targets.
27:55So I don't think they can afford to not have him be a big part of the game plan against Seattle this week.
28:02On the other end of that same game, Jadarian Price is the last one in this range, I think, to talk about.
28:09He is given one of two five-star matchup grades here.
28:12We have like the physical grade and then we have like the five stars.
28:16This is a five-star. And I believe looking through this, now there's a couple, actually, there's a couple in the top 12 RBs.
28:23This range, it's only Kyron Williams and then Jadarian Price.
28:26Fun thing about Price. Price, he seemed really explosive, but according to fantasy points, he had zero actual explosive yards, which accounts to 15 plus.
28:33Yet he had a 70% success rate as a running back.
28:37And he accounted for four first downs for that team.
28:40So great matchup. Seems like he can explode a little bit more.
28:43We might see some of that explosive run, but you guys a little bit split on this.
28:48Fitzy, you are the higher dog. So you like the rookies a little bit more.
28:53ECR 24, Fitzy got him at 22. Erickson pushing back a tiny bit at 25.
28:57Fitzy, take on Jadarian Price for this week. You just figure Seattle is going to be run heavy with Drew Lockett quarterback.
29:04You know, play ball control. Let your awesome defense win the game for you against the Cardinals.
29:09And Arizona actually did do a pretty nice job against the Chargers in week one.
29:14Chargers only ran for 81 yards, averaged 3.9 yards per carry.
29:17But yeah, Price did look good in week one.
29:20I think he gets more than 10 carries this week.
29:23And he had a couple of catches in week one, too.
29:26They only produced six yards, but good to see him involved in the passing game.
29:30Erickson, I kind of think there might be a case that Jadarian Price might be a better play than Jeremiah Love this week.
29:37But I think you have him one spot behind.
29:40Did I have that correct? One spot ahead. One spot ahead.
29:43Okay. So maybe, yeah, there is a slight agreement there.
29:46What do you think about Jadarian Price? I think that he should definitely get more carries.
29:51Then George Helani, please. If Seattle wants to not blow this game, make sure that they give their best running back more
29:58opportunities, which they did talk about a little bit in the post presser.
30:01Mike McDonald, the offensive coordinator, talking about, hey, he looked really, really good.
30:05Looked explosive. You just listed off how successful he was running the football.
30:09And it was a night and day difference between him and George Helani, who really is just a breather back, is there
30:16to take up snaps, is not like a difference maker.
30:19They need difference making plays if Drew Locke is going to be under center.
30:23So I think I agree with Fitzy where I would take the over if his carries open up around nine and a half.
30:30I know I hit the under on 12 and a half carries in week one, but after the first drive, I was looking like, oh man, I'm dead.
30:38I'm dead in the water. They're going to keep feeding this guy because he just looks so explosive at the start of
30:45that game, but obviously, and you have to remember too, losing their starting quarterback.
30:49I think maybe that had them lean on bringing in someone like George Helani just because, hey, we have a new quarterback in there.
30:56Maybe he hasn't taken as many reps as Jarrion Price.
30:59So maybe that also played an influence on the snap count.
31:03The red zone usage does concern me as well because they liked, they used Helani there.
31:07They brought Emmanuel Wilson in for some of those green zone snaps, which does concern me, but Jarrion Price is explosive and
31:14I can't help but think, what are these Notre Dame running backs?
31:18Then going head to head, I think Price is going to want to be like, hey man, I was also pretty good at Notre Dame too.
31:25So maybe he's tabbing for a big explosive run.
31:28So I like Price just like a slightly better, especially because Seattle's favored.
31:32I expect them to win this game. So give me the running back on the team that should win.
31:38It seems like Erickson hates all these Notre Dame guys.
31:41You'd think it was his school that got stopped by Notre Dame two weeks ago instead of mine.
31:46Did you go to USC or something? What's your problem?
31:49What's your problem, Erickson? I do want to do one more aside question.
31:53I know the guy I'm going to mention is going to come up later, so you don't have to talk about him
31:59and I don't want to go crazy into this, but Erickson, ECR 20, Ramondre Stevenson, if Travion Henderson is active, does that change?
32:06I don't know what your view is on him right now, but do you think Ramondre Stevenson should be pushed out of an RB two?
32:14If Travion Henderson is active, yay or nay? Hmm.
32:17I have him right now at 23 and his rank would obviously be pretty fluid if Travion Henderson is active.
32:23I just don't know what Henderson's role will be coming off of his injury and you have to look at the Patriots matchup here.
32:30They're home favorites against the Pittsburgh Steelers who gave up a lot of production to B.
32:35B. John Robinson to get that Ramondre is not B.
32:38John Robinson, but I still think that it's Stevenson's job as the RB one until Henderson shows that, hey, I'm ready to take on a bigger workload.
32:46Can he pass, bro? That has nothing to do with his ankle injury.
32:50So I think Stevenson's probably still a good volume play, even if it's not to the extent that we saw in week one.
32:56But your rank currently is relative to Henderson not being active?
33:0023? It's a hedge ranking. Okay. That's a total reasonable answer, too.
33:03What is the Star Wars quote? I don't do things in, what is it?
33:07In hypotheticals or something like that? Or a Sith?
33:10Something like that. Do you guys watch Star Wars?
33:13I'm familiar. I'm familiar with it. Someone to comment, save me, please.
33:16Fitzy, you familiar with Star Wars? I am. I can't pull the quote.
33:20So the commenters and YouTube are going to have to save Erickson.
33:24I can't bail him off. I thought you were going to do a Yoda or something.
33:29You'll find it. We'll figure it out. Fitzy, same question, just really quick.
33:33Ramondre, does he need to be hit backwards, especially relative to the ECR of 20 if Travion Henderson?
33:38And I know you're going to talk about him later, so you don't have to talk about Travion yet.
33:44But would you push Ramondre back significantly if Travion's out?
33:47Not significantly. I have him RB23 in my rankings.
33:49He probably goes down a spot or two if Henderson is back.
33:53Okay, cool. Perfect. Let's talk about those flex RBs, 24 through 36, 25 through 36, actually.
33:58Coming in at 25, we've got Quinshawn Jutkins on the big board, Basial Tootin at 26, Jalen Warren, Jordan Mason, Ja'Kory Kraski-Mirrit, J.K.
34:05Dobbins. The bottom half is Marshawn Lloyd, Kyle Monongai, Rico Dowdle, Tony Pollard, Aaron Jones, and Blake Corum.
34:10A couple of these guys that you might be dropping in at flex or, you know, I don't know if you have a bad running back situation.
34:18These might be your RB2s. Ja'Kory Kraski-Mirrit, we saw some really good usage.
34:22He comes in at ECR 29. But you both have him lower.
34:26Vitsi, you're the lowest. You've got him at 35.
34:28He is barely grasping on as a flex running back option for you this week.
34:33So talk to us about Ja'Kory Kraski-Mirrit. Good news, bad news for Bill from week one.
34:38The good news led the Commanders in snaps, 34, only 29 for Rashad White, 7 for Katron Allen.
34:43And Bill looked good. 16 carries, 63 yards, a touchdown, one catch for minus seven yards.
34:48But we don't expect to get a lot of passing game production from him.
34:52The bad news, the Commanders were down 24 to 16, down eight with under five minutes left in the game.
34:58And the Commanders had it second and two at the Eagles 22-yard line.
35:02Bill runs for the first down, fumbles, and luckily for Washington, one of their offensive linemen pounces on it to preserve the drive.
35:09Bill immediately gets pulled for rookie Katron Allen. Allen stays on the field for the rest of the drive, has the first
35:15two carries immediately after the Bill fumble, wound up having three carries for 11 yards on the drive.
35:21Commanders scored a touchdown, failed the two-point conversion, lost by two points.
35:24I'm a little nervous that we didn't see Bill after that fumble and the game was on the line and the Commanders
35:31put in rookie Katron Allen to finish the game.
35:34That's a little scary. JCM had four fumbles on 175 carries last season.
35:38Is he in danger of getting quick hooked if he fumbles again in this game?
35:42That's fair. So he's kind of moved out. Not really a good flex option if you're trying to put RVs out there when they're going with.
35:50Erickson, you're also lower. You're not as low. You're a little bit closer to ECR, but 31.
35:55So anything you want to add to that? I mean, it really did get messed up towards the back end of this
36:02with Katron Allen getting involved in here. But what are your thoughts on Ja'Cory Krosky-Merick?
36:06Only Sith deal in absolutes. That is the Star Wars quote.
36:09Because I have nothing else to add with Bill.
36:12He is very scary because it seems like they could pull the plug on him very, very quickly.
36:17The other thing with him, because he did not seem to take on a larger role in the passing game, like that was being suggested throughout training camp.
36:26Oh, we want Bill to step up, be a better pass catcher.
36:29One catch for negative seven yards on two targets.
36:32Actually, just one target is not a signal that, oh, yeah, he's going to be involved in the passing game a lot more.
36:39If they're facing more negative game script against a high-powered Dallas Cowboys offense that is looking to bounce back after a pretty
36:46poor performance on Sunday Night Football, who's in the game?
36:49Probably Rashad White and not JCM. So he seems like he is very, very on the fringe and very boom or bust,
36:55where I think that the bust risk probably outweighs the actual boom where, okay, gets 15 carries, 60 yards and touchdown.
37:01That's the upside case like we saw in week one against a good Philadelphia Eagles front.
37:06But the downside case, like Fitz alluded, he gets benched outright, gets game scripted outright.
37:11I think you can probably find a better flex play, considering he's someone that you probably didn't even start in week one.
37:17On the opposite end of what you guys just did, so Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt ranked higher.
37:22You guys are lower. Rico Dowdle is ranked lower, and you guys are a little bit higher, not anything crazy.
37:28He's ECR 33 for this week. Not a great matchup against New England, but you guys both have him at least a spot higher.
37:35Erickson, you're 32. Fitzy, you're 31. Erickson, why don't we start with you?
37:39This is against your Patriots team. We really didn't get the production.
37:42I think we got some of the usage of Dowdle that we were hoping to get, but then we got no efficiency.
37:49Everything I thought was going to happen just went to Warren.
37:52Warren was the efficient one. What's your take on Dowdle in this matchup for this week?
37:57I don't want to play Rico Dowdle. Last week was the smash spot for him.
38:02At home against a Cooper Rush, Falcons-led offense. Dowdle should absolutely feast.
38:05We were taking all the overs on his rushing yards props.
38:09Anytime touchdowns for Uncle Rico. Eight carries for 15 yards.
38:12Just outproduced by Jalen Warren. So even though Dowdle got the majority of the snaps, that did not translate to any type of production.
38:19And I find it hard to believe that Mike McCarthy and the staff are going to go back and think, OK, yeah,
38:25well, we got to get Rico more involved. We got to get him more usage.
38:30When you look at the strengths of the Patriots defensive line, it's the interior.
38:34So when you have speedier backs, you can get to the outside like a Jadarian Price.
38:39Those are the running backs that are going to have more success against this defense.
38:43Not the more plodding running backs like a Rico Dowdle.
38:46Not to say that he can't rip off explosive runs.
38:49He showed that in Dallas and in Carolina the last two seasons.
38:53But I think that if you're looking for running backs to get to the edge, I think that's actually more of a
38:59Jalen Warren type of game script, especially if the Steelers are trailing.
39:03I think Jalen Warren is a better pass catcher than Rico Dowdle is.
39:07So even though he was running routes, catching targets, I mean, the guy wasn't producing any type of yardage.
39:13And I thought it was really interesting, too, that the Steelers in the first game under Mike McCarthy, number one in pass rate over expectation in week one.
39:21So I think they're going to be slinging the football, trying to hit DK Metcalf downfield for a lot of air yards
39:28against Christian Gonzalez and these other Patriots defensive backs.
39:30So I think that unless we get like a total reversal where last week set up so well for Rico Dowdle and
39:37just terrible, this week sets up so poorly for Rico Dowdle and does amazing.
39:41Unless that happens, which I'm just not willing to bet on.
39:44Well, maybe I mean, maybe you, Erickson, need to rethink your rank because you're higher than him.
39:49And Fitz, you're the same way. I wonder if you have any more positive take because this is one of those cases
39:56where you guys are both ranked higher. But are you both going to have just a pessimistic outlook of wanting to even play Rico Dowdle?
40:04Or Jalen Warren, for that matter. Well, like it's just OK.
40:07Yeah, I was team Jalen Warren in the offseason.
40:10I just like I think Warren's the better player and I think he's the better fit for Aaron Rodgers.
40:15And, you know, who wants to get rid of the ball quickly and not take hits.
40:20But it was just weird. I guess I have to take the L because Rico had 14 more snaps and ran eight more routes that I don't understand.
40:28Rico Dowdle running eight more routes than Jalen Warren.
40:31So right now I've got him back to back.
40:34I'm taking the coward's way out. I've got Rico 31 and Warren 32.
40:38I want to do two quick hitters in here.
40:40One I just kind of added, but I think it's important.
40:44And we don't have to go crazy on these guys.
40:47But number one is Marshawn Lloyd. Marshawn Lloyd given one of the best matchup grades of this flex range here.
40:53Obviously, some questions with Chris Brooks getting his usage.
40:55He comes in at 31. Fitzy, yay or nay on Marshawn?
40:59Because I feel like we've got this thing where the top half of these guys feel a lot better for flex options.
41:05The bottom half, I think it's just like we don't want Datto.
41:09We want Ja'Cory Krosky merit. What about Lloyd? Where does he fit for you?
41:13Is he a yay or nay wanting to start him this week against the New York Jets?
41:18Wanting to is a nay. He's RB 34. I think maybe they get a positive game script.
41:23I mean, the Packers are favored by what? Like four points at the Jets.
41:27But Lloyd didn't look especially good against the Vikings.
41:30And I just worry that the offensive line for Green Bay was so bad that like they are going to need a back to help protect Jordan Love.
41:38And I think Chris Brooks is better at doing that than Marshawn Lloyd is.
41:43Erickson, your thoughts on Marshawn Lloyd this week? Comes down to the Packers offensive line and whether they can hold up.
41:49I don't know if Aaron Banks is even going to play in this game.
41:53Probably not. Not likely. So they're playing on the road.
41:56I get the Jets showed out defensively against the Titans.
41:59They're the Titans. But the Jets did revamp their defensive line this offseason.
42:03I think that they actually have some decent road graders in the interior.
42:07They're definitely more of a pass funnel defense where when you look at the Jets, you definitely want to throw against their
42:14defensive backs, especially when you don't have Mika Fitzpatrick.
42:16Because he's going to be out there starting stud safety who they traded for in this offseason.
42:21So I know LaFleur loves to run the football, but given that he doesn't have Josh Jacobs, given that his offensive line
42:28is banged up, I think they're just going to trust in Jordan Love and hope that he gets enough time to get
42:35the ball out to these explosive playmakers that Green Bay is littered in to take advantage of this poor Jets secondary without their starting safety.
42:42So I think Marshawn Lloyd is just kind of he's going to be out there.
42:46You're hoping that he rips off an explosive play, but I agree with Fitzy where you're probably still see a lot of
42:53Chris Brooks because of the pass protection. Now, this last guy here before we just get a deep option from each of
43:00you, this might be the guy that is like the end of a tier.
43:04Like I said, like the top half looks like fun flex options in the back half.
43:09We're just like this is a guy you guys are dramatically higher on than what ECR is.
43:14And that's Blake Corum, Blake Corum, five star matchup grade, 36 on ECR.
43:18Both of you have them inside of a top 30 running back this week.
43:22Fitzy, you have them as the highest at 28.
43:25Erickson's right there at 29. So just quick hits on Blake Corum.
43:28Do you think he fits that mold of what I said?
43:31Is he kind of like the last break of a tier that you're cool with putting them as flex because you're so much higher?
43:39Or am I overthinking that? He does take a little bit of a hit in full PPR just because he doesn't chip in much as a pass catcher.
43:47But yeah, the Giants run defense did look better against the Cowboys after being terrible last season.
43:52Still, Corum just looked great in that game against the 49ers.
43:55I love the way he takes the handoff, pauses for a second to read the blocking, and then just hits the gas
44:02and accelerates so quickly and hits the hole hard.
44:05Rams are seven point home favorites against the Giants.
44:07You know, one of their reasons for going to Australia was so late was to not disrupt their circadian rhythm.
44:13So I do think with the extra rest, this could be a get right spot for the Rams offense after the weirdness of Australia.
44:21Erickson, same thing. You got him top 30. Does he kind of break as an option you really like playing as a flex?
44:27And obviously you're into him this week. So quick thoughts on Corum.
44:31He was the one bright spot in a lackluster performance by the entire Rams offense in week one.
44:36It was Blake Corum. He was the reason why they looked good at the beginning of the game.
44:42And I think they're going to continue to feature him alongside Kyron Williams.
44:46They're going to split drives. But if Corum continues to flash this explosive upside and they have positive game script in the
44:52second half against the New York Giants, I think Blake Corum could continue to run wild, get more touchdown opportunities.
44:58So I think that he's a great flex play.
45:01So obviously this is the top 36. Your favorite outside the top 36 ECR backs.
45:05Probably you're going to have him higher is who?
45:08So Kalon Black. He is ECR RB 37. So sliding right into the threshold because we got proof of concept in week
45:15one that the 49ers, I think, want to lighten Christian McCaffrey's load so that he plays the entire season and he doesn't break down.
45:22And that comes in the form of Kalon Black, who matched Christian McCaffrey in total touches in week one, actually had more
45:29carries and looked really good with those opportunities that he got.
45:32So I know that every game script is not going to work where the 49ers are up big against a certain opponent and more closely contested contests.
45:40Yeah, it's probably going to be Christian McCaffrey out there.
45:43But when you're playing the Miami Dolphins, who have arguably the worst roster, especially on defense in the NFL and playing them
45:50at home, this is a pretty obvious spot where if Vegas is right and the 49ers just steamroll as the Death Star,
45:56again, my second Star Wars reference on this show.
45:59Kalon Black is going to get them, by the way.
46:02What? Have you even seen the Star Wars movie?
46:04Yes, of course I have. I don't believe that you've seen them all.
46:08I'm just like, Death Star, Sith, what's a Jedi?
46:11I don't know. But I do know. Yeah, that sounds like someone has seen it, but you know Kalon Black.
46:17Kalon Black, he's going to have opportunities in this matchup, or he should have opportunities, especially on the ground.
46:23So I think that as a desperation flex play, again, he's probably been added to your roster.
46:28I know that sometimes you don't always feel super confident about adding a player you just got off waivers.
46:34But if we get anything like a similar game script to week one for the San Francisco 49ers, Kalon Black should be
46:40involved a decent amount, maybe score a touchdown. Kalon Black, like the, what is it?
46:45McCaffrey's his Padawan or something like that? The Sith roll in two?
46:48I mean, there's great references that you know. I mean, you're the relative expert here.
46:53Fitzy, you're running back outside the top 36. We've kind of alluded to him a little bit here, but let's talk about this running back.
47:00Travion Henderson, RB 33 for me. I think he's worthy of at least flex consideration.
47:05Back at practice on Tuesday, and I think we saw the limitations of Ramondre Stevenson against Seattle in week one.
47:11He's a really good back, but there's just not a lot of big play juice there.
47:15Travion Henderson absolutely has big play juice, and the Patriots are probably going to need it without A.J.
47:21Brown in the lineup for the next month. Fantasybros.com slash rankings.
47:24That's fantasybros.com slash rankings. If you want to check out all of the positional ranks, you want to look at more of the RB stuff, please do so.
47:33You can use that to hang along with us in the episodes, and you can just use that throughout the week as well.
47:39If you're checking out the app, plenty of great tools that are going to help you set all of these decisions if we're not out there.
47:47But that is going to do it for running back ranks.
47:51Know that we've got wide receiver and a quarterback and tight end episode coming up here, so don't miss those.
47:57That is going to do it, though. Good luck in week two.
48:00I'm Chris Welsh. That's Pat Fitzmaurice and Andrew Erickson.
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