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0:28All right. Welcome everybody to the Fantasy Pros Show.
0:31Today, it's pretty simple. We're just gonna recap everything that happened today in the fantasy football world.
0:36Unfortunately, today, tons of injuries that we're gonna talk about.
0:39But, I'm joined by Scott Bogman, Dr. Deepak Chona.
0:42Scott, we'll start with you. How did you, how'd your fantasy go with you today?
0:46Fantasy was okay. Obviously, a lot of landmines to avoid here.
0:50We're gonna have Deepak on for a while today.
0:52And yeah, that was not so much fun. My team, the Steelers, also got stomped out by the Patriots.
0:58So, not the best Sunday for me, but also not the worst Sunday.
1:02We're still watching football. It's still fun. We're still here.
1:05So, yeah, we'll say a 50-50. Yeah, there you go.
1:08We'll take it. We'll take it. Yeah. Deepak, busy day for you today.
1:12Unfortunately, Texans fan, not so much fun there. But how are you doing?
1:16How's everything going? Yeah, I'm hanging in there after a rough loss today, but a lot of injuries.
1:21So, I think, as you said, we're gonna stay distracted at the very least.
1:26Yeah. So, yeah, no dilly-dallying here. Let's just talk about some injuries.
1:29Obviously, there's a ton to talk about. But the main, the big ones here, the two quarterbacks.
1:34We got Caleb Williams. We got Jaden Daniels. I mean, Caleb Williams, you would have thought that his leg got shot off.
1:41But it looks like just a hammy injury. We'll talk about that.
1:45Jaden Daniels, obviously a little bit scary with his elbow.
1:48Nico missed the week with a hammy. And then tomorrow night, a little bit scary with a Puka Nakua groin hip issue.
1:54And then Jonathan Brooks exited with a groin injury.
1:57So, we'll start with the quarterbacks. And we'll start with Caleb Williams, just because, you know, that Bears offense, 59 points last week, six points this week.
2:05What are we thinking about Caleb Williams and his injury?
2:08Yeah, Caleb Williams. So, hamstring is kind of, truthfully, like a best-case scenario here.
2:12He, in general now, it looked like he was walking without much of a limp afterwards.
2:17And they were reassured. These hamstring injuries, they average about two weeks.
2:21So, very likely he'll at least be out one to two weeks.
2:24If you rush him back, the re-injury risk is pretty high.
2:28Now, his initial reaction made me think this is at least on the, like, moderate grade severity.
2:33His later reaction makes me think this didn't sort of pull off the bone and rupture altogether.
2:38That last situation is where it could be a season-ending surgical type of injury.
2:42So, most likely he's getting an MRI tomorrow. We would get a little more clarity based on grading of the injury.
2:48Now, if they say grade one, you're usually looking at two weeks out.
2:52Grade two, which is where I would suspect this lands, is closer to the four- to six-week range.
2:58Now, I would lean four weeks, and I think they would be conservative on their young star quarterback.
3:03Usually, you would see a dip in rushing production, not so much effect on passing when he does come back.
3:09And the key here is really re-injury risk. Up to about a quarter of players do get injured with these more severe injuries.
3:16So, we'll get a little bit more clear of a look on what it really is after tomorrow.
3:22Yeah, makes sense. And, Bogman, hearing hamstring, hearing maybe not severe, it's got to be best-case scenario when you consider, like, how it looked when he went out.
3:30Yeah, when he went just down running, I was like, is this an Achilles, right?
3:35That's what everyone... Yeah. Most people's brain went to first, please don't be an Achilles.
3:39Please don't be an Achilles. You know, the weather was nasty.
3:42The whole... The Bears as a whole were not doing well before this injury either.
3:47So, yeah, just an unfortunate situation. Bajan isn't a bad backup, but of course, no one is Caleb.
3:52So, not good for production moving forward. But like Deepak said, hopefully only a little bit here.
3:58And they do have an extra day to rest because they plan on Monday next week.
4:02Yeah, yeah. So, obviously, we'll talk about the Bears a little bit later.
4:06So, we can move on now to Jade and Daniels, probably the more concerning of the two considering the re-injury.
4:12So, Deepak, what do you got there? Yeah. So, it looked like a dislocated left elbow, which is the same elbow he dislocated last year.
4:20Last year was treated without surgery. And with that in mind, you know, this can be treated again without surgery.
4:26But the more dislocations you have, the higher the re-injury risk goes.
4:29So, at this point, my suspicion is he would probably opt for surgical stabilization.
4:34Now, that would put him out for the year.
4:36Otherwise, you would probably expect an IR stint and he come back.
4:40But again, probably with a high re-injury risk. So, my leaning on a young player is probably they go the almost, you
4:47could say, more conservative route, which is surgery here.
4:49And sorry, you said surgery could be the year.
4:52Surgery very likely would be a year-long situation. Got it.
4:55That's tough. So, what does that do for the commanders?
4:58I mean, all of them. McLaurin, Diggs had a great game today.
5:02What does that do to them? Everybody gets lowered on your weekly starting list.
5:06And this just really stinks. Like, you saw Krosky Merritt, 3.6 yards per carry, 12 carries for 43 yards.
5:12Way more of Rashad White out of the backfield.
5:14And obviously, when he's in, they think they're passing.
5:17So, he had a little bit more running room and had 6.1 yards per carry as well.
5:22So, just not a good situation overall. It lowers our Terry McLaurin.
5:26It lowers our Stefan Diggs shares as well. So, Diggs and McLaurin, obviously a big step down.
5:31Everybody has stepped down without Jaden Daniels and going to Marcus Mariota.
5:35We've seen this circus before. It's not that much fun to watch.
5:38Yeah, it's just brutal. I mean, after his rookie year, you thought this is the next Josh Allen and then just two
5:45years in a row where he can't stay healthy.
5:48But does... So, do you think Mariota becomes like a streamable option as a quarterback himself?
5:52Superflex, yeah. I mean, always going to be in there based on matchups.
5:56And he has so much starting experience. He's not...
5:59It's not like going to... Not like if Baker got hurt and you're going to Jalen Daniels.
6:04You know what I mean? Like, not someone with zero experience and barely made the team.
6:09That type of thing. We know exactly who Marcus Mariota is.
6:12So, it lowers everybody, but it completely tanked their value.
6:15Yeah, that makes sense. Cool. All right. We can move on and we'll go to a game that hasn't been played yet tomorrow night.
6:23Monday Night Football. Puka Nakua. Obviously, everyone's wide receiver one, two or three to begin the year.
6:28We heard doubtful. We heard questionable. So, Deepak, what are you hearing and what are you seeing with Puka Nakua?
6:34Yeah, I would tell you based on the objective criteria here, which is his practice reports, to end the week.
6:40Over three-fourths of players with that pattern would miss the next game.
6:43They also, the comments so far, haven't been super optimistic.
6:46Now, Puka has missed some practice and then surprised us and played in the past.
6:51And so, I wouldn't totally be shocked if he's out there, but he would be definitely beating the data.
6:57And you would expect him to have some degree of kind of a production hit or at least a re-injury risk because
7:03it sounds like a muscular type injury. They're saying it's not the same as the hip flexor that he had in the training camp.
7:10However, my suspicion is it's very likely related or compensatory type mechanics that led to this.
7:15And secondly, we do have to remember with the Rams, we've gotten some so-so injury reporting in the past from them.
7:22And McVeigh tends to be optimistic on a lot of these things.
7:25Matthew Stafford's back last year and then the couple years before Puka's knee, they called it a small bursa injury and then he missed several weeks.
7:33So, I'm taking everything from them with a grain of salt and looking more at the objective metrics would say he would probably sit.
7:40Gotcha. Yeah. And so, Bogman, if you have Puka, obviously you didn't think that he was going to be missing.
7:46You're probably scrambling a little bit. Obviously, if you have Devontae's in your lineup, Kyron's in your lineup, but where else?
7:53Are we going with anybody else on the Rams?
7:55I mean, I don't know who's going to put maybe Kanata Mumpfield, right?
7:59Like if you're really desperate, if you're in a deeper league, maybe Malachi Fields is available for the Giants in your league.
8:06Maybe pick him up. So, yeah, but there's not it really stinks to have a questionable guy from Monday Night Football because
8:13you just don't know where to pivot and what to do.
8:16So, hopefully you're not in that situation. But if you are, I mean, I think Kanata Mumpfield or Fields are probably because Jordan Whittington is doubtful as well.
8:24So he's probably down. So Xavier Smith might get in there as well.
8:28So there are some options, but they're all pretty gross.
8:31Yeah. Do you think any of the tight ends, Ferguson, all 59 of the tight ends?
8:36I mean, sure. Yeah. But who is going to be the one, right?
8:40I Higbee or Parkinson probably. Ferguson didn't do much week one.
8:43Yeah. It's questionable. Yeah. It's it's not a good spot to be in.
8:47That is one of my buddies started Jaden Reed because he didn't want to go with Puka today.
8:53And then Jaden Reed with his injury. So brutal, brutal.
8:56So, all right. Well, the last one on the graphic that got hurt today and then Nico will talk about with kind
9:02of a different group of players is Jonathan Brooks.
9:05And I know that we were talking pre-show. That one was a little bit concerning because there's a re-injury.
9:11So Deepak, what do you have for us on Jonathan Brooks?
9:14Yeah, most groin strains average about two weeks, but then re-injuries are usually a little more severe and usually a little bit
9:21more prone to further recurrence if you just keep playing through them.
9:24So I would very likely expect him to miss next week.
9:28Most of these would be multi-week absences and the average would be close to three to four weeks.
9:33Got it. Okay. So, I mean wheels up on Chuba, right?
9:36Bogman. Yeah. I mean, it, this has been difficult to deal with from the beginning, right?
9:41Like I was kind of questionable on Brooks coming in.
9:44Seth and I talked to Deepak before the season started and I felt a little better about Jonathan Brooks going in and
9:51then he had the groin injury right before the season and then re-aggravating it here.
9:55So, you know, Bryce Young is a good. So this offense has been humming a little bit.
10:00So yeah, Chuba seems like a very nice option right now.
10:04Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's been, he's been great.
10:06This offense has been good. So, I mean, there's a ton of injuries that we're going to try and just do some
10:13quick hitters just to make sure that we can kind of cover everybody.
10:17So players that left today. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
10:21If I get any of these right and didn't return Jaden Reed Rico doubt.
10:25I get he returned got hurt and then left again.
10:28Mike Evans, Jadarian price. I didn't see Dobbins. So let me know about Dobbin Dobbins Dallas Goddard David and Joku.
10:34Not that that's a huge deal, but David and Joku.
10:37Um, and then, um, yeah, I think, I think that's it.
10:40So on Thursday. Oh, good point. Yeah. DJ more on Thursday.
10:44Good point. So I know I rattled off a bunch of names there, but just kind of quick hitters on, on what,
10:50if you have anything for any of them. Yeah, let's do it.
10:54So, uh, with starting with DJ more, the average on these is one to two weeks.
10:59So it's generally a short term injury about a quarter of wide receivers would make it back the following week without missing time.
11:06And of course he has three extra days. So that kind of works in his favor as well.
11:11If he does play this week, you'd usually expect some sort of dip because it sort of hurts to reach across your
11:18body and overhead, which is a key for a wide receiver.
11:21But with that being said, uh, most players would miss one week and come back the following.
11:26Then we go to Mike Evans, uh, hip injury.
11:29He was reportedly seen jogging into the tunnel and the game was essentially in hand at that point.
11:34So hard to know what the true severity of it is.
11:38The reports early so far make me not overly concerned, but Mike Evans in general is a sort of high risk player given age and soft tissue history.
11:46So we've got to watch his practice reports. I would suspect he plays next week, but TBD on that, uh, Jadarian price, they called it a chest issue.
11:54Usually these are rib either fractures or contusions and, uh, often can be played through.
11:59Like you saw Lad McConkie today, uh, with usually a decrease in touches for running backs.
12:04Also typically wearing like a protective vest and sometimes getting an injection.
12:07So I would anticipate him being a short term absence.
12:10If at all, uh, with regard to, uh, Jaden Reed, that looked pretty scary.
12:15I think it was probably a precaution based on what we're hearing after the fact that they put him on the board.
12:21And, uh, I would suspect he misses about two weeks and then comes back.
12:25Um, and then, uh, sorry, I lost the list here.
12:28Rico got her. Yeah. So Rico, he re injury of the toe that he injured earlier in the day, uh, makes me
12:35think he's probably going to see very limited touches.
12:38If he plays at all, uh, more likely out, um, Dobbins, I have a little concern about given his significant history as well.
12:45They called it a hamstring. He, uh, in most cases would miss at least a game average on those is about two weeks.
12:52And we'll kind of know more about severity, uh, as the week goes on.
12:56And then, um, with regard to Goddard, it sounded like he banged knees.
13:00I couldn't really see the injury on, on the tape.
13:03So if that's the case, you would expect him to come back pretty soon here.
13:07So, uh, I think that, uh, covers that, that big list.
13:11Yeah. I mean, tough, tough week, tough week for sure.
13:14Um, and then we have some guys that got injured, came back.
13:17We have some guys that missed this week, obviously some more important than others.
13:21Uh, but let's talk about Nico. Cause I know he's had hamstring injuries.
13:25I know he was out this week. I believe he was diagnosed with a grade one strain.
13:31Correct me if I'm wrong there. So what do you think about Nico next week, two weeks?
13:36What's it going to be? Yeah. Average is two weeks and he sustained the injury on a Wednesday.
13:41So keeping that in mind as well, in addition to his very significant hamstring history, I would think he misses this coming week and then returns the following.
13:50Now there will be some degree of re-injury risk, but the production impact, if it's truly a grade one strain is actually pretty low.
13:57So you would expect him to come back at near full strength.
14:00Okay. That's good. And then, I mean, Schultz had a great game today.
14:04Uh, Bogman is, I mean, I, I can't say I was dialed into that Texans film and I don't know about their
14:11next week's matchup, but is there anybody that you're starting in place in Nico?
14:15If he's out again next week? Not really. They spread the ball around a bunch.
14:20So Dalton Schultz was the best one at Montgomery.
14:22Didn't do anything today either. So just a rough day for the Texans overall, but Schultz had a nice one.
14:28So that is probably our pivot point among a pass catchers for the Texans.
14:33Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Um, and then some, some players that got hurt and came back real quick.
14:38Um, if there's anybody I missed, let me know, but Ashton Jinty and Saquon Barkley, uh, too big, obviously big name running back.
14:45So what do you have? What do you have for them?
14:48Yeah. Ashton Jinty, he kind of limped off, but he walked off on under his own power, but he did return shortly after.
14:55So relatively low concern there. Saquon, they called it a stinger and he's getting, he did return in the game and then
15:02he's getting an MRI this probably tomorrow. Uh, typically with a stinger, the MRI is just to confirm that there's no underlying structural damage.
15:09Stingers are very short term injuries, very severe short term injuries, but, uh, they wear off pretty quick.
15:15So we wouldn't expect any deficit going into the week as long as the MRI confirms that.
15:20Got it. So hopefully we got, we got wheels up on both of them next week.
15:24Um, so just some updates on players that missed this week that maybe, maybe not have, have back next week.
15:31Uh, Zay flowers, Brock Bowers, Kyler Murray, RJ Harvey.
15:33What do you, what do you got on them?
15:36Yeah. Kyler Murray, it looks like he's trending towards clearing concussion protocol and playing this coming week.
15:41Uh, now whether they start him or not, that's kind of TBD, but, um, with regard to Zay flowers, I'm optimistic because
15:48he did return to practice in a limited fashion on Friday.
15:51So he would be also trending towards playing the coming week.
15:54Uh, with regard to his concern is really more re injury risk.
15:58This does sound mild, but it is also already a re aggravation.
16:02So a little bit prone to having a, this pop up again in season.
16:06But again, he should, when he's playing, you kind of have to start him because he should play at near pre injury level.
16:13And then with regard to Brock Bowers, this, he also returned to a limited practice.
16:17He was seen, uh, kind of warming up jogging routes essentially against air, uh, which is all pretty optimistic for his ability to play this coming week.
16:25Now he is beating average timelines by about a week to two weeks to return after this meniscus trimming.
16:31Uh, but with that being said, it's very doable.
16:34It has been done at little as, as little as two weeks after the surgery.
16:38And most players within about two weeks are at pre injury level.
16:42So I would basically consider Bob Bowers a must start if you have them.
16:46Okay. That was gonna be my question. So Bob, if you have Bowers, you're using your lineup.
16:51If he's playing next week, dude, I, so in one of my leagues, I held a, uh, I dropped my kicker and
16:58I held mayor and Bowers and I just went, okay, I'm going to pick up a kicker when they finally Mark Bowers
17:05is out or I'm going to drop. It was mayor.
17:08I'm going to drop mayor, pick up my kicker.
17:10If Bowers plays, they didn't do it until like 30 minutes before the game.
17:15So I had to pick up, I picked up will Lutz and, uh, was able to put Brock Bowers on my IR finally.
17:21But yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm holding it. If Brock Bowers plays, I am putting him in my lineup every single time.
17:28Basically. Yeah. You pretty much have to. So, all right.
17:31Was there, was there anybody that I missed? I want to make sure that we cover everybody.
17:36I know that we had a ton of injuries this week, so I just want to make sure that we don't miss anybody important.
17:43I think that's everybody for now. Right. Quick update on Sam Darnold.
17:47It sounds like he is ahead of what they expected as his pace.
17:51Uh, the overall outlook on this is probably week four to five.
17:55Um, I based on the comments, I would lean a little bit towards week four.
17:59And beyond that, I think you covered everybody. Yeah.
18:02Is this weird? This Sam Darnold thing, Deepak? Is it weird?
18:05Because it's like, you know, we, we hear one report say four to six weeks and the next report says, well, he's
18:12not gonna play this week, but maybe he's going to be week three.
18:16Is this just a strange reporting? How does that work?
18:19Yeah. He also got four opinions on the injury.
18:21So you can think about this as like a relatively high severity injury.
18:25Uh, and probably the four opinions led to some degree of like a range that you're seeing there.
18:31Now my suspicion is that he tore his glute tendon and that can be something that you can play through and then
18:37maybe fix later if you need to, or maybe even not fix.
18:41But, uh, but again, the idea of, uh, why it's a, like a lot of mixed reporting is I think because he
18:48got so many opinions and it's not that common of an injury.
18:51There's not really data to go off of in this case.
18:55So they haven't given us a clear diagnosis, but that's kind of what my suspicions are reading between the lines.
19:01I feel like when you get four opinions, it's cause you're not happy with the first three.
19:06Is that, that's just my dumb brain. Is that accurate?
19:09Yes. And no, I think there are some people for which that's completely true.
19:13And then there are others for which, you know, if the first two opinions don't agree, the move is generally to get a tiebreaker.
19:20And if there's still kind of dissenting opinions or, you know, somebody who's not sure using sort of a fourth opinion would be the move.
19:28Now when it's that many opinions, it makes me think like he was considering a surgical versus non-surgical kind of decision.
19:34So a big decision. But again, it's, it's one of those that they haven't really released the full information.
19:40I think we're just lucky that one, he didn't fracture the hip until he didn't tear anything inside of it, but this
19:46is still a high energy injury to sort of have the weight of the defender drive through his hip as he did.
19:53So I think he's just truthfully very lucky in how it turned out.
19:57Got it. Yeah. Let's hope to have him back, but at least Jason was able to play well.
20:02And then some with, with drew locks, or at least there are no concerns there.
20:07Um, well, Deepak, thank you for, for joining us.
20:10Thank you for going through the litany of injuries.
20:12Um, we'll talk about sharp AI, but then, um, and then after that, we'll talk about, uh, our big takeaways for today and stuff like that.
20:20But yeah, Deepak, thank you. Thanks Deepak. No doubt.
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22:51All right. Let's talk about today. So last week, after week one, offenses are back.
22:55You know who's back? Offenses. We had averages of 49.4 points.
22:58Teams themselves averaged 24.7 through the games through four that finished by 730.
23:02So I think we're just missing one game. Average 36.2 points per game, 18.1 points per team.
23:07Scott, what do you have to say about that?
23:10So last week, the high scores this week, the low scores.
23:14I think it's training camp in a lack of preseason games, right?
23:17Like we all we all don't. I heard Trevor Sikama talking about this recently, and we all want more regular season games and less preseason games.
23:25Let's practice. Let's ramp up time. But these guys need the ramp up time that the tacklers needed it to tackle last
23:32week, which they didn't specifically the Colts. We'll see them in a little bit here.
23:36And then this week we saw the tackling was great, but the timing was off.
23:41Also, a lot of injuries, a lot of, you know, hopefully soft tissue things that don't extend as Deepak gave us, you know, mainly positive news today.
23:49So even with a lot of injuries. But yeah, man, I just I think that, you know, week one was I think
23:55both of these can be attributed to a lack of ramp up time and a lack of actual physical practices.
24:01You know, we're done. We're done with two a days, which, you know, no player wants to bring back and I don't
24:08blame them, but maybe a little more harsher practices or kick kick a preseason back game back in or something or play your guys in the preseason, right?
24:17Like Steelers offense looks like absolute garbage. Aaron Rodgers never plays in the preseason.
24:21I wonder why it looks bad, right? That and DK Metcalf has no hands.
24:25Yeah. It's spoken like a true Steelers fan. Yes.
24:28So, yeah, obviously the big theme last week scoring's up.
24:31Not necessarily a huge theme this week, but score was definitely down.
24:34But in terms of like what actually happened today, what's number one or not number number one, that's in terms of importance.
24:41But what's the first storyline that you want to talk about today?
24:45Yeah, I mean, the fantasy fallout of the Caleb Williams injury, right?
24:48And just the Bears pass catchers not looking good overall.
24:51And I know we had a lot of complaints about that in the chat here.
24:56A lot of people want to burn Colson Loveland down to the ground.
25:00Point eight points and half PPR today. Burden had four half PPR points.
25:04So do you say had 5.8? I mean, it was just it was a rough day for everybody.
25:09I think obviously the weather had a little something to do with this.
25:13But Khalif Raymond played more snaps and more routes than Luther Burden again today.
25:17We didn't see nearly as much success, but the Vikings defense might be a thing too.
25:22Like they have looked good two weeks in a row.
25:25They held the Bears to three points. That is impressive after you know, all we heard about was Ben Johnson talking about
25:32how we're going to set the scoring record and all this stuff.
25:35After last week scoring 59 points and you get held three points today.
25:39So, you know, worry. Yes, panic. No, if you want to I wouldn't panic drop Loveland.
25:44I wouldn't panic drop anybody really, but I am concerned and depending on the length of this injury for Caleb Williams.
25:50Again, I like Tyson Bajan. I think he's a good backup quarterback, but he's a backup for a reason, right?
25:56So everyone is going to take a tick down specifically if Caleb does have to miss any time.
26:02Yeah, and I think I think what's scary about about the Bears receivers is, you know, last week they score 59 points
26:08and like none of the top three guys you drafted on the receiving side.
26:13You were happy with obviously we got the goose from from Loveland burden was okay.
26:17Like he didn't kill you and then Rome and limited snaps.
26:20Yeah, it didn't do much. And then yeah this week in the rain and a good in a good defense against the
26:27Vikings, but a defense that at least saw like Christian Watson obviously had a great game last week against that same defense
26:34and Caleb got hurt deep into the fourth quarter.
26:36So it wasn't like the Sam Darnold thing where he got hurt on the first drive.
26:41So yeah, I'm with you. Like you're not dropping anybody, but probably like you said about like with the commanders are probably
26:48lowering your rankings if I had to guess. Yeah, and I don't hate like if you actually are worried about Loveland and
26:54you have the room for on your roster. I don't mind picking up a second tight end and if you just don't
27:01like the matchup or you do like the matchup for whoever you pick up playing that guy while you know they work
27:08through these issues specifically if Caleb is down. I understand that I you know trade Loveland before you cut him someone will
27:14buy I would say that so if you are really upset you want this guy off your team put them on the block.
27:21I think someone will buy low on him and you'll at least get something back for him that you want or need.
27:28Yeah, I'm guessing like a Dalton Schultz if he's still on your waiver wire somebody that you can kind of throw in
27:35your lineup that that that's not going to kill you.
27:38Waller scored twice today. Yeah, there's there's options. So yeah Waller.
27:41Yeah, how about that? I know we're gonna talk about talk about Bryce Young in a little bit which which we'll do now point number two.
27:49What do you got to say about the Panthers?
27:51Bryce Young has six touchdowns in the last two games.
27:54I mean we did not expect this 23 for 37 361 and three in a pick against Chicago.
28:00He also ran for a touchdown in that game this week.
28:03Not quite as good, but they didn't need it to be as good because Atlanta is garbage 23 of 36 to 87 and three more scores.
28:11This looks like they're humming a little bit right like I'm not going to sit here and tell you that look I'm
28:18way into Carolina and that they are going to be great from this point moving forward.
28:22They do play the Browns next week though. So I mean, maybe Bryce Young can keep this humming.
28:28They did Cleveland one today. I don't really know how that works, but they did win their secondary is still very questionable.
28:35So you know, I I think that Bryce Young might have another good game and you know we're seeing even like that look good today.
28:42I mean the whole offense is looking good. I wish Brooks was healthy enough to look good in this offense.
28:48So but yeah, Bryce Young is becoming a little bit of a thing right now.
28:53And the last time we saw Bryce Young last year that playoff loss against the Rams one of the better games he played.
29:00I remember being worried about the Panthers pass catchers this year, especially tech because obviously he went a little bit higher.
29:06Bryce Young was like barely thrown for 200 yards a game last year.
29:10So if he can keep me obviously maybe not a pace of three touchdowns a game, but if you can at least
29:16put up respectable numbers weekly, then obviously you're going to be happy with with the pass catchers.
29:22So my question to you is they play the Browns next week.
29:25I don't know if their schedule tightens up or gets tougher.
29:28Are you going to sell high on anybody on the Panthers if they have another week like they had next week and another week like that?
29:36I'm willing to sell on anyone that is in Ted a role of McMillan.
29:41I'm willing to sell on Coker because of the quad issue that he had and even last week after having that enormous
29:47week ends up in a boot what he played.
29:50It's just that annoyance of the questionable, especially starting in week two, which annoys me.
29:54I don't think Waller is going to continue to score so many touchdowns and even if his role is good.
30:00He's also very old and he missed time last season after coming back as well.
30:05Chuba and Brooks. I assume the healthier Brooks gets the more split that will become.
30:09So another really good week for the Panthers. So people start to buy in.
30:14I'm probably going to be starting to sell as you alluded to.
30:17Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Cool. All right. What do you got next?
30:21How about the ugly touch split between the backs in New Orleans with Alvin Kamara coming back?
30:26Travis Sachen eight for twenty five, two catches for six yards, thirty one of sixty one snaps.
30:31Alvin Kamara only played twenty snaps, but he touched the ball fourteen times in those twenty snaps.
30:37Nine carries for fifteen yards, so not very good.
30:39Five catches for only seven yards. So not a good game overall for either one of these backs against the Ravens.
30:46But they both touched the ball and Kamara touched the ball more.
30:49I mean, this is a really ugly split for moving forward.
30:53I would assume that you gave all this money to Travis Sachen.
30:56And he is going to I assume this is going to be closer to sixty forty in Sachen's favor moving forward.
31:03But this really is not a good look. And I'm probably panicking a little bit if I'm the Travis Sachen owner.
31:09Yeah, I don't blame you. It's scary. And I think what made it at Sachen so good last year is he was so good through the air.
31:17And if Kamara is stealing all that receiving work, I'm just I'm not as comfortable with him through the between the tackles.
31:24So, yeah, it's definitely scary. It's also you love that offense.
31:27So that's like you want pieces of it. Yeah, yeah.
31:30I mean, they they looked really bad for three quarters against the Lions, but then turned it on and brought the same type of energy to this game.
31:38They looked real good. But yeah, it was 13 routes run for Travis Sachen and then eight for Alvin Kamara and CJ
31:45Donaldson even got in 20 snaps as well. So really kind of he only touched the ball once.
31:50You know, one carry and no target. So but it was really a gross three headed monster, 37, 20 and 20.
31:57So hopefully we get more towards a Chen and less towards Kamara.
32:00But we'll see how it goes. This was an ugly split to start with both of them healthy.
32:06Yeah, sure was. And I mean, Kamara is just such a legend in that city.
32:10You just don't know if he's what it's going to look like.
32:14So, yeah, not great. Not great. But what's what's point number four?
32:18How about is Trevion Henderson the lead back of the Patriots now?
32:21I don't think he is right. But what we do know is that Mike Vrabel is a hard out, right?
32:27Like doesn't want to start the young guy. But also, if you fumble, you don't fumble my football, son.
32:33You go to the bench. And that's kind of what happened to Ramondre.
32:37He did come back in the second half after fumbling.
32:40He did start this game as well. But Henderson, 33 of 55 snaps, 12 routes run.
32:45Stevenson, 20 of 55. So 13 fewer, 11 routes run.
32:48So they ran about the same amount of routes, but way more touches for Henderson.
32:5216 carries. Stevenson had six carries, two targets and one catch.
32:56And obviously that fumble loss. So I don't know how far the fumble problem is going to carry into the season for Stevenson, right?
33:03Like he could be starting next week and it would not be a shock, right?
33:07And I think I would assume that's probably what's going to happen.
33:11But I do think that this is going to be an uglier and uglier 50-50 snap and 50-50 split share.
33:17And I was listening to, I cannot remember his name, the guy who owns Boston Sports Journal, one of my Steelers podcasts this week.
33:24And he was talking about, someone asked him about Henderson and he said, I'm assuming this is a fantasy question.
33:30And then went on for five minutes about how Ramondre is so much better of a back.
33:35And then he comes out and fumbles and Henderson has way more touches.
33:39So I think it is truly more split than people want to give it credit to.
33:44And I do think eventually Henderson is the lead back by the end of the year.
33:49So that's kind of my opinion on it. I've said that throughout the whole offseason.
33:53What about, what do you think, Mona? Do you think this is going to be more split, leaning towards Stevenson like most people think?
34:01Or do you think that Henderson has a chance to take this role?
34:05Yeah, it's interesting. You know, heading into the year, I was all in on Ramondre Stevenson and I was all out on Travion Henderson.
34:12You know, Travion could rip off a 70-yard touchdown run each and every week.
34:16And they are not going to take Ramondre off the field.
34:19Like, you're right. He's just a hard-o coach. And Ramondre's had fumbling problems in his career and it just hasn't seemed to matter.
34:26They just still like putting him on the field.
34:29And I don't think that's going to change. I was surprised.
34:32I would not – if you had asked, like, how I thought the split would go this week, I thought it would
34:39be predominantly Ramondre, especially like Travion's first team back from an ankle spree.
34:43I didn't start Henderson in a bunch of spots because I didn't think he was going to get many touches.
34:49Yeah, and I did start Ramondre in a team that's just absolutely in shambles.
34:53That has Caleb Williams, but that's neither here nor there.
34:56Yeah. So I do think that it's going to be an aggravating 50-50 split.
35:00And when you watch them, it feels even more aggravating because Ramondre's game isn't as sexy as Travion Henderson.
35:06Like, when Travion breaks off a run, he's like Jameer Gibbs light, whereas Ramondre just kind of plods.
35:12But he's a good pass protector. He knows where to be.
35:15They leaned on him in the playoffs last year.
35:18So I just don't think it's going to be as bad as it was this week.
35:22I think it's going to be closer to 50-50 if I had to guess.
35:27Gross. Nobody likes that. Which is gross. Which is gross.
35:30Which means, like, can you feel comfortable starting any of them?
35:33Right, right. So we'll see how it goes. But I'm clearly Camp Henderson have been since the offseason.
35:38I've probably watched too much college football. And the last point here, the Chargers, man, they look bad.
35:44Two losses in a row. I mean, everyone heard the stat.
35:470-2 for the first time for Herbert and Harbaugh in their lives, which is just kind of crazy to think about, especially for Harbaugh, who is very old.
35:56But the Cardinals and the Raiders, too. Herbert, 192 yards, touchdown and two picks.
36:00Lad, 35 yards on three targets and three receptions.
36:02Obviously a little gimpy coming in. And QJ is droppable at this point.
36:06Gadsden, even though he scored a touchdown, might be droppable depending on how bad Njoku is hurt.
36:11Because Njoku and Kohler are playing ahead of him for the most part.
36:15And Trey Harris mixed in here. This looks like a big glob of grossness in terms of who is touching the ball
36:22and the production when they have the ball. No one's been good.
36:26Hampton fumbled today. Yeah. So, you know, we're not.
36:28You don't ever want to tell people to sweep this under the rug and ignore it.
36:33But I do think that the Chargers will get better the more we have experience in this Mike McDaniel system.
36:39Right. But it looks really ugly to start the season.
36:42And I don't blame people for panicking. Yeah. And for me, it's not even like the stats, you know, we're fancy.
36:49We want the stats. They just look out of sync.
36:52Like it just nothing just looks right. They're off.
36:54They're off timing. They're off schedule. Everything just looks harder than it should be.
36:59And I mean, we just saw the Seahawks put up 31 points.
37:02We saw JSN have a huge game. Like it's this was against the Cardinals, the team that the Chargers couldn't do anything against last week.
37:10So it's scary. It's scary. And I don't. And yeah, QJ was somebody that I wasn't high on.
37:15So that makes me feel a little bit a little bit like heading into the year.
37:20So I'm at least like, all right, I'll take that victory.
37:23But I loved Ladd. I loved Hampton. I liked the Mike McDaniel offense, like what he did for for A-Chan, what he
37:30did for Waddle and Hill the years prior to that.
37:33So, I mean, I don't think you could find an analyst that wasn't excited about Mike McDaniel going to the Chargers.
37:39Everyone was excited about it, and it just has not worked very well yet.
37:43So doesn't mean it won't. We're through two 17ths of the season.
37:47But, you know, we it doesn't look good right now.
37:50I think the only one that I'm starting and feeling OK about it is a Marion Hampton, and he fumbled and looked bad.
37:57So that's probably, you know, Herbert even is a tough start right now in a one QB league.
38:02So, yeah, yeah, it's ugly. It's not great. It's not great.
38:06And speaking of ugly panicking, we're going to talk about the panic meter coming up next.
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38:58And flex on your entire league. So as I mentioned, let me just get everything up here.
39:03We're going to be talking panic meter. So I want to get everybody, get your comments in.
39:08Let us know who you want us to talk about.
39:11And we'll give you our rating on them. One to ten, how much we are panicking about them.
39:16One means we're not panicking. Ten means we're in full-blown panic mode.
39:20And we'll just go through it. So just going through here, Monty, where is your panic on Monty?
39:25Like a five. I think this offense looks way different without Nico.
39:29We heard Deepak talking about how Nico is either going to be back this week or the following week.
39:35I tell you what, I'm more impressed with the Bengals defense than I am panicking about Monty, which doesn't make me feel
39:41good because I am a Steelers fan and the Steelers play the Bengals next week.
39:46So after not looking good on offense two weeks in a row.
39:49So not wholly completely panicking, but it has to be something in there because he looked terrible today.
39:55So I would say like a four or five.
39:58So not really panicking, but he's on the watch list for the panic meter for sure.
40:02The panic watch list for sure. Yeah, he's somebody that I wasn't super high on.
40:07So I'll probably go like a three or four, but not a full-blown, not a full-blown panic.
40:12What about Marvin Harrison Jr.? Nine. I mean, how high can we get on this without absolutely being ridiculous?
40:18But the dude couldn't get anything going today. I didn't see if he even finished with a catch.
40:23I saw he had two targets with nothing when we fired up here.
40:27So a terrible day for him. Everything's going to McBride.
40:30Everything's going to Wilson. Love and Algier getting theirs.
40:33He's getting nothing. Yeah, he needs a change of scenery.
40:36They got to get him out of there. I will feel way, way, way better about Marv if they get him out
40:42of Arizona and trade him for a bucket of footballs or whatever it is.
40:47Like, just get him out of there and get him to a different scenario because he doesn't fit anything in Arizona.
40:53They're not even looking his way. Everything looks bad.
40:56And I'm genuinely surprised by this. I get it both ways because on the Dynasty show, I made a comment about, you
41:02know, this might be the last year. I'm done if he doesn't have a good year, but I expect him to have a good year.
41:10Well, I might just be done because a good year doesn't seem to be happening.
41:14Yeah, 10 out of 10 for me. I don't know what happened.
41:18Like, one of the best wide receiver prospects we've ever seen coming out of Ohio State.
41:23He was just – he checked every single box.
41:26Who the heck knows? Doesn't – just lesson learned doesn't always translate.
41:29And let's just hope Jeremiah Smith is not another Marvin Harrison Jr.
41:33I guarantee he's not Marvin Harrison. No, I'm with you.
41:36I'm with you. I'm with you. What about the Bucs?
41:39I mean, two gross games, a loss to the Browns.
41:42Where are we at on the Bucs? Yeah, I don't know if it's wholly the Bucs.
41:47I think this panic needs to be placed on Baker, right?
41:50Like, you can't beat the Browns. And we know Baker is the ultimate ship-on-your-shoulder type of guy.
41:55He wants to go – anyone who has wronged him in the past, he needs to go after.
42:01Now, he is the machine that drives the offense.
42:03Of course, everybody takes a down tick if Baker is just going to, you know, not live up to his potential this season.
42:10But I do think this will get better. But it has to be on our radar because it's been bad two weeks in a row.
42:18So I'd say five and a half. Like, there's definitely worry there.
42:21I do think this will get better. You know, Bucca will be working away from this toe thing that he's had.
42:28The rest of the wide receiver core will get a little bit healthier as well.
42:32Well, Buc-ee's looked good. So there's that. But, yeah, I think this mainly – this mainly stands on Baker's shoulders.
42:38And I think everyone is surprised that he didn't have a great game against the Browns.
42:43Yeah, I agree. I'm concerned. Seven, eight for me.
42:46Mostly because, like, Bucca had a fine fantasy performance today.
42:49That was just because he caught a touchdown off.
42:51That was a nice play by Baker. I'll give him that.
42:55But, yeah, we'll do a couple more. Then we'll answer real questions, not just the panic stuff.
43:00Where are we at on Drake May? Great fantasy year last year.
43:04Obviously lost to A.J. Brown two bad games in a row.
43:07Yeah, I'm not panicking quite yet on Drake May.
43:10That's two really tough defenses to face week one and week two, right?
43:13The Steelers' defense, they're as good on defense as they are bad on offense.
43:18So if you want to watch the offense and see how ugly that is, they are really, really good on defense.
43:24And Seattle's defense is still top-notch as well. So that's two really bad matchups in a row to start the season.
43:30So I think it will get better. Obviously, it'll be best when A.J.
43:34Brown comes back. Yeah, we got maybe six weeks to...
43:37Yeah, sure. If I didn't put a number on that.
43:40So, like, a three. Like, I'm not too worried right now.
43:44Yeah, I would probably go closer to, like, a five.
43:47I'm not, obviously, dropping him. But I would like to see if I could start somebody else and just at least let
43:53him get some good games under his belt. We talked about the Bears.
43:57We'll do these both back-to-back. Burden and Loveland. Um, Loveland is...
44:01It's got to be over a five, right? Like, because I'm personally not panicking.
44:05But the guy hasn't done anything two weeks in a row.
44:08And Caleb is banged up now. So it has to be, like, a six.
44:12A five or a six. Like I said before, pick somebody else and bench him if you possibly can, if you have that room on your roster.
44:20If not, I'm probably still going to roll him out there.
44:24I'll take another third dud in a row before I really start to panic.
44:28Uh, but I do think that'll get better. Burden, uh, Burden, you know, we had some Bears fans in here talking about
44:35how he was getting targeted by Bajan. So, uh, maybe a little less on Burden, but he was probably your wide receiver
44:41three anyway, or your flex option as a borderline guy.
44:44So we want to start him. But if you have to bench him and start, you know, Chuba or somebody else in
44:51that range at your flex spot, I would be okay with that for sure.
44:55Cool. All right. Well, appreciate everybody in the comments and get your questions in because we'll do a quick Q&A at the
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45:36We got a fun game. I starred some up there for you.
45:40Oh, there we go. I did not see it.
45:42There we go. Thank you. What do I do with A-chan and is Malik Willis a drop?
45:48I think in a 1QB league, Malik Willis is a drop in Superflex.
45:51I'm not dropping him yet. But obviously, you know, first time starting for this team, new offense, everything, and also bad wide receivers.
45:58So I'm giving him a little grace if I'm in a Superflex league.
46:02A-chan I think is going to be okay. I think we'll see improvements from this offense as we go forward.
46:08They're not going to be a great offense this year.
46:11I don't think anyone expects that. It's a borderline of are the Dolphins going to take Jeremiah Smith one overall or a
46:18quarterback one overall if Malik Willis is terrible this year.
46:21I think that's kind of where we're all sitting.
46:24So, you know, 1QB league, Malik Willis is absolutely a drop in a Superflex.
46:28I'm still holding him. And A-chan, there's not a lot you can do with.
46:32I'm still rolling A-chan out there. Yeah, you can.
46:35Yeah, maybe you're trading him high, but I'm not sure how many people would even do that.
46:40And that question was from PandaOfLove7724. Thank you for the question.
46:43Thank you, Panda. We got one from Bunting74D. Is Daniels a buy in a Dynasty rebuild?
46:48This is a difficult question to answer, Bunting. I would say yes, because he's probably going to be unbelievably cheap right now.
46:55You're going to have someone, a manager that is super frustrated holding this guy last year, holding him through the whole offseason,
47:01and then he gets hurt immediately again. So I'll say yes, because his price should be pretty much at an all-time low right now.
47:09So I'll say he is a buy currently yes.
47:11Wouldn't go much more than a second-round pick from 2027, though.
47:15I don't even know if I'd trade a 27 second.
47:18You definitely can't give up a first. No way.
47:20No way. Not in this class. Absolutely not. I'm with you.
47:24Throw an offer. I'm the type of person in the fantasy league.
47:27I'll send you 15 to 35 offers, and you can tell me if you don't like it.
47:32That's the kind of fantasy player I am. Next question from MFJones1988.
47:36So we just talked about MHJ. Do you think he's a safe drop in a 10-teamer?
47:41In a 10-team keeper, too. Yes. Oh, keeper. Yeah.
47:44Yeah, even in a keeper. I think in a 10-man, 100%.
47:47In a 10-man keeper, yeah. I mean, even if he's a really good deal, who cares?
47:52He's getting nothing. So there's got to be someone on the wire better than him right now.
47:57So maybe it's a little hyperbolic to do this in week two, but I'm done.
48:01I think I'm all the way out. I'm with you.
48:04I would try to trade him. There's got to be somebody and nine other people in your league that might just want to buy in on the talent.
48:13Maybe a rebuilder throwing a dart with like a fifth-round pick.
48:16So you can get a late pick or something instead of flat-out straight-up dropping him.
48:21But yeah, try that first. But if there's someone on the wire that's really good, I'm not holding them.
48:26Yeah, and if you have to drop somebody and nobody else is even worthy of a drop, then yeah, totally fine to get to drop him.
48:34Dash with J-Mo. If this is Jameis and Williams, I lost some money on you the last couple weeks, my friend.
48:41How much fab should I spend on Coleman if I have RB depth needs?
48:45Ooh, this is a good one. I would say like maybe 20 to 25%.
48:49I think Coleman's going to be a stud. I think he might be the best back on the team currently.
48:55He showed out a little bit today, but it doesn't mean that he, like if Harvey is back next week, like Deepak
49:02kind of alluded to, and Dobbins' injury isn't major, he's still going to be third.
49:06I think he might have been fourth coming in here because I saw Bidet get a little bit before him.
49:12But after this performance today, I think he has pushed himself past Bidet.
49:16He should. And I think he has pushed himself into this rotation moving forward.
49:20He looked pretty good out there today. So I would say a decent, you know, 20-ish percent somewhere in that neighborhood.
49:27Is that too much, Moe? Are you in agreement?
49:29No, I was thinking 25. If you have running back depth needs, I mean, if like Harvey, I think nobody's kind of
49:36super in on and Dobbins, you're kind of almost just like waiting for the injury.
49:41And I love the talent of Jonah Coleman. I made the comparison that like I would not be shocked if he's a
49:47league winner like Alvin Kamara was his rookie year.
49:50If you remember like heading into that year, he was behind Ingram and Adrian Peterson and like third-round pick coming out of Tennessee.
49:57Like nobody thought he was going to be what he was.
50:00And Sean Payton just loved him. And I would not be shocked if Jonah Coleman, he's not going to be Alvin Kamara.
50:07I wouldn't be shocked if he puts up some numbers even in his rookie year.
50:11So I'm good with 25%. Amen. Amen. I like it.
50:14All right. Well, a couple more before Sunday Night Football starts.
50:18Jedi Steve. First of all, I love the name.
50:20As a Jedi mode, I create name. Jedi mode.
50:23Jedi Steve 50. How much will Williams injury affect Swift?
50:26So obviously this is Caleb Williams and DeAndre Swift.
50:29I mean it will, right? Because they'll have eight, nine-man boxes on a lot of plays for him.
50:34But I think Bayesian can sling it a little bit.
50:37So maybe 15% somewhere in that neighborhood. Not as much as it probably should, but he still will be affected, of course.
50:44Yeah. And I still think that they're going to be a good running team.
50:48Like we like that run scheme with Ben Johnson.
50:51I don't think that offense is just going to go off of a crater.
50:55I know they play the Eagles next week. I know that because I'm an Eagles fan on Monday Night Football.
51:01So we'll kind of have to see what that matchup is.
51:04Revenge game for DeAndre Swift. But the last question here, then we'll go ahead and get on out of here.
51:10Thank you, everybody, for joining in for the questions.
51:13From Daniel Kimbrin-B7X, do you think Hamptons gets hurt after the fumble you had at the end of the game?
51:19I know I don't. But it's not going to be ineffective, right?
51:23Like I also don't think – I think Fidel should be their backup.
51:27But I'm just not a Keaton Mitchell guy. But Keaton Mitchell is their guy.
51:31But I don't think – when you have Stevenson and Henderson who are both really close to each other, then it affects it big time.
51:38But you don't have anyone that's anywhere close to what O'Marion Hampton offers you as an RB, in my opinion.
51:44So I don't think it will affect him too much.
51:47You know, fumbles stink. They really hurt your momentum and your team, which is why we saw Stevenson get benched.
51:53But I don't think you can afford to bench Hampton with your offense already looking bad.
51:58You need more reps for those guys out there and for everybody to get better, not just Hampton.
52:04Yeah, I think it sucks. I think he'll get the same work that he would have gotten if he didn't fumble.
52:10It's kind of how I feel. And if people are worried about that in your league, send a trade offer.
52:16Like I said, the worst they can say is no.
52:19But that's going to do it. Bogman, thank you for joining me.
52:23This was fun. I love talking fantasy. I mean, you get to do this on a Sunday night.
52:28What's better than that? Thank you for spending time with us tonight.
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