0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hello everybody, welcome into Fantasy Pros.
0:04I'm Ryan Warmly, joined by Tara Roberts. We are bringing you some moves to make before Week 7.
0:09Got some buys, some sells, some players to shop that Tara will be bringing to the table here.
0:15A reminder for everybody as always that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at FantasyPros.com slash rankings.
0:22You can also navigate to our rest of season rankings as well.
0:25I will be referencing those on the show today.
0:28You can pick the experts, just the guys who have actually updated their rankings since the game's finished.
0:33So you can get it as up-to-date as possible.
0:36That'll be what I'm referencing when I'm referencing rankings on the show throughout today's episode.
0:41Tara, let's dive right in here with a buy.
0:43We're gonna buy, yeah, we're gonna buy Basial Tootin.
0:46We'll start with a happy buy. I think now is the perfect time to get in and get a, possibly a little
0:53lowball, but a reasonable offer in on Basial Tootin.
0:56The manager in your league might be thinking that they're selling high off of the Fantastic Game from a fantasy perspective.
1:02And I can also see why, and I have seen in terms of comments all throughout social media, that there is a little bit of panic.
1:10And that might incentivize people to sell currently on Basial Tootin.
1:13Because he did appear to be in a blatant timeshare with Chris Rodriguez in this week's game in terms of carries.
1:19Basial Tootin had 12 carries for 39 yards. The bulk of his fantasy production came through receptions.
1:25Having four receptions for 48 yards and a couple of receiving touchdowns.
1:28Chris Rodriguez did look fantastic on the ground, particularly early.
1:31This was not something that became a second half occurrence.
1:34He was involved very early. 11 carries for 55 yards.
1:37So when we're looking at the potential for buying in on Basial Tootin, we're buying out a buy week.
1:43They have a week seven buy. So whoever rosters Basial Tootin could also be maybe a little bit paranoid about a potential timeshare.
1:50There could be a need of something to help get them through the buy week.
1:55And this was a season high in terms of touches for Chris Rodriguez.
1:59So when we're comparing these backs that we were looking at during the offseason, that panic might be seeping in of people that were saying, Rodriguez, Rodriguez, Rodriguez.
2:07But here's the thing. He can't be the three down back in this offense.
2:11We know that for sure. He has not been utilized from a receiving perspective.
2:16He has one reception on the season. And then Tootin is the lead back.
2:20And this game was the fewest carries that he had had all season.
2:24So he's got no issue with overall productivity. And really the main thing in terms of why I'm willing to buy in,
2:30no matter honestly what the cost is, is that we're going to come back from the buy week with a very friendly schedule.
2:37So friendly that it should be providing tons of touchdown opportunities.
2:41And this receiving usage could inspire more receiving usage for him.
2:44Because if you look at Trevor Lawrence and Travis Etienne last season, Trevor Lawrence is not a check down heavy quarterback.
2:51It makes sense. But he's an intentional quarterback when it comes to receiving.
2:54So Travis Etienne last year got to a really nice rhythm in the back half of the season where he was having significant, meaningful receptions.
3:02He had five receiving touchdowns in the back half of the season.
3:06So I have the confidence that Tootin can replicate that production.
3:09And I think this is a nice buy-in opportunity.
3:12I think it's a really interesting stretch of the consensus rest of season rankings at RB13, Jalen Warren, RB14, Chuba Hubbard, RB15, Beyshaw Tootin.
3:19It feels to me like the top 12 is somewhat solidified.
3:22And when you get past that 13 to 15 range, I feel like it's pretty obvious to guys that we wouldn't put in that grouping.
3:30But that trio of Warren, Hubbard, and Tootin, I think you could find people ranking in different ways.
3:35Do you have Tootin at the top of that?
3:38Do you think he belongs at the bottom, which is where he is in consensus?
3:43If you had one of those guys, even if it's maybe not the biggest upgrade in the world, would you look to trade one of them for Tootin?
3:51How are you approaching that range? Chuba is not someone that I would want to move just because, again, there's no committee there.
3:58At some point, supposedly, maybe we can have Jonathan Brooks back.
4:02But he's really the workhorse of that offense. So I would take the guaranteed volume, even though he does have a little bit rougher schedule.
4:09But over a guy like Jalen Warren, absolutely. That's one of the ones that I would flip with very easily because you
4:16can look at it and say, okay, two guys in a committee.
4:19One has a much higher ceiling in terms of proof of use from Jalen Warren.
4:24So you could get somebody that's really pumped about that and say, yeah, I'll take Jalen Warren.
4:29You know, better situation maybe. But Rico Dowdle's return, I think, is really just what we saw last week.
4:35It's maybe just the baseline. I think it's going to get back to a committee, even though, you know, we heard from
4:42Mike McCarthy like, hey, no, you know, Warren. We'll stick with him.
4:45I think he's flippant in terms of which direction he can go on a weekly basis.
4:50I don't think he'll stick to that. But I feel a lot more comfortable with Basial Tootin.
4:55I could even maybe go for flipping a Chase Brown, honestly, because the production has been so underwhelming.
5:01And while he's theoretically in the better offense, it's a heavy receiving touchdowns offense.
5:05So I could lean towards Basial Tootin's way on that one.
5:08Let's go to your next buy here. My buy is Garrett Wilson.
5:12I believe we talked about him, but I thought it would be nice to revisit.
5:16I think it was a few weeks ago. It's very simple with this one.
5:21And we're just putting out our feelers to see if there's any panic in some in Garrett Wilson over the emergence of
5:27Omar Cooper, Omar Cooper returning from injury rookie breakout.
5:30This is not the first rookie breakout we've seen.
5:33We saw it with Kenyon City. If we've got Adonai Mitchell that should be coming back as well.
5:38So there might be some willingness to move Garrett Wilson below his value.
5:42And quite frankly, he's one of those guys where I think he's just naturally undervalued because of the perception of the Jets.
5:49There are just times, unfortunately, when Wilson will have a dud game.
5:53It's happened a couple of times this season. Week four against Chicago, that was really just a dreadful day from Geno Smith.
5:59He quite literally completed eight passes. And then week six was just an overall, you know, underwhelming game just from a fantasy
6:06perspective because of the breakout from Cooper. But outside of those two games, we have seen excellent usage from Wilson all season long.
6:13And he's shown the ability to get it done in a wide variety of ways.
6:17Like when you think about him traditionally in previous seasons, you think about, OK, he's high volume, needs targets, needs 150 in volume, volume, volume.
6:25But we've seen him get it done in terms of having high targets and receptions, doing so by lower receptions and higher yardage, getting it with the touchdowns.
6:34So I like the varied usage that we've seen out of him this season.
6:38And I feel like he's kind of in that no man's land territory of players where it's easy to make the argument of flipping him.
6:45And he's great for a combo trade as well.
6:48When you're looking ahead towards the playoff schedule, that's really the only issue that we have.
6:53Week 15 is Arizona. Week 16 is New England, followed by Minnesota in championship week.
6:58So obviously this risk does not come without or this move does not come without risk.
7:02So you need to make this trade in terms of like having your long term vision in mind.
7:08But I think an interesting target in terms of the fantasy manager that should make this trade is someone with a losing record.
7:15You don't need to be worried about what you are doing in the playoffs.
7:19You just need to get to the playoffs. You need a player that can deliver those boom games over the next several
7:26weeks, that can get you some wins and get you on track rather than a contender that's looking to stock up for the playoff season.
7:33You started to hit on it. What is the price that feels appropriate here?
7:38Not even just like what would you be willing to pay, but what's a good initial offer?
7:43What's an offer that maybe can get you a good value, feels like, but you'd be willing to go more in the course of a negotiation.
7:51How would you start a conversation about Garrett Wilson right now, who in consensus rankings is wide receiver 16 rest of season?
7:57So my initial thought with this was Mike Evans.
8:00I love Mike Evans. I know that everybody loves Mike Evans, and when we talk about Mike Evans, it can get a
8:07little bit touchy because he when he is on the field, he is undeniably the best receiver on the field.
8:13Like age doesn't matter. He is fantastic. But he's just been dealing with these, you know, nagging injuries that don't seem to go away.
8:20We know that for two seasons in a row, something has happened and whether or not those are age related injuries.
8:26No, you know, some of them weren't. But two seasons in a row, we've seen him not play a full season dealing with injuries.
8:34When you combine that with the age, you start to get a little bit concerned that every week we're looking at him
8:40as a potential game time decision on a team that is quite often in prime time games.
8:46So I could look at that one and make that kind of flip.
8:49I think that one is a little bit closer in value, but still a reasonable trade to make.
8:55One more buy at the wide receiver position they have for us here.
8:59It is Emeka Abuka. I went back and forth on this one because clearly the past two games could definitely be considered fool's gold on him.
9:07They've been heavy target games, and unfortunately they have not been heavy yardage games.
9:11He had one with a total of 13 receptions.
9:14The yardage in one game was 38. Yardage in the next game, 48.
9:18Obviously, he scored a touchdown in both of those games.
9:21One came via the run, but the lack of yardage is concerning.
9:24But, you know, it's not as if anybody else is lighting it up from a yardage perspective.
9:30So it's one of those situations where you've got a wide receiver one.
9:33He's finally seeing volume, and you wonder if now is the time that you buy in because the perception is still very low.
9:40You're not buying high on this guy whatsoever in terms of value.
9:44Even though he is coming off of his two strongest games, there's still a lot of skepticism around this offense led by a rookie.
9:51We're going to have Baker Mayfield come back. What do we really see when Baker comes back?
9:57Because when we had Baker on the field, it wasn't great.
10:00It was just the epitome of mediocrity, getting in PPR 10 to 11 fantasy points a game.
10:05So this shift in volume is super encouraging. But I don't think it's actually super specific to Jalen Daniels.
10:11We've got to remember that this is a new system under Zach Robinson, whose offensive coordinator tenure has been a little shaky in general throughout his entire career.
10:19So perhaps they've been working through some kinks, figuring stuff out.
10:23They did vocally state that they knew that they had to get more volume to both Emeka Abuka and Chris Godwin.
10:29So they stated it, they came out, and the result was they absolutely set more volume that way.
10:34So I think that will stick when Baker Mayfield comes back.
10:38So I don't know why they would pivot from that direction.
10:41And obviously there is that risk, but really and truly the schedule ahead is what makes this a lot easier to buy in.
10:48If you're wondering and you're on the fence and thinking, this is not something that I want to get into.
10:54They have a very injured Carolina secondary in week seven.
10:57Then they've got an injured Atlanta secondary. They've got a very beatable Chicago secondary after that by week, followed by Detroit and Carolina again.
11:04So while there's a couple of questionable matchups after that, it's an overall positive schedule and good playoff schedule with the exception
11:11of championship week, which is the Rams. So at worst, your floor is Baker Mayfield bringing them back down to 10 to 12 fantasy points.
11:19And at best, we get this offense going in a positive direction and good matchups and continue to see that volume increase.
11:25And hopefully the yardage comes along with it. Feels like a tough player to rank rest of the season.
11:31Why does he were 29 right now? The names around him, AJ Brown, Rasheed Rice, Terry McLaurin are the three names ahead of him.
11:38And then behind him, DJ Moore, Jalen Coker, Carnell Tate.
11:42Kind of a really interesting grouping there. Where is he ranked for you?
11:45Like rest of the season? What feels right? Is 29 too high, too low or just right?
11:51I think it's just like a wee bit too low, but I don't think it's egregious.
11:55Like I could have him at wide receiver 25 at max if I was being super optimistic.
12:01If that was like a super optimistic ranking, wide receiver 25 would be where I would put him.
12:06So I think it's an appropriate range. I don't think people are overreacting, which again, you know, helps us with credence in
12:13terms of buying in on him off of these good games and it not actually being a buy high.
12:19Because where he is valued is still extremely reasonable for the upside of him being the wide receiver one in that offense.
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12:42I am selling Josh Downs. Like every now and then, guys, I hit you with one of those.
12:48You're just going to sell to get out. Everything can't be a sell high.
12:52Wait on it. I mean, we talked about it with Jalen Waddell last week.
12:56Like you might miss your window if you keep on waiting in what happened.
13:00Like now he, you know, subpar game as expected, got banged up.
13:04Does that carry on through? Does it feel a little bit worse as he, you know, goes throughout the week?
13:10We'll see. But everything can't be wait for the high game and get out.
13:14Sometimes you just have to get out when it's clearly a really detrimental situation.
13:19Unfortunately, we got the news of the changes that they're making.
13:22Chris Ballard got fired. But we're selling Josh Downs on this one.
13:26Look, the Josh Downs experiment in terms of hoping for this upside has been a nightmare.
13:30Failing to hit double-digit fantasy points in a game where there was no Tyler Warren was really the last straw of any
13:37kind of hope that we can have. Do whatever you can to get out of that situation.
13:42And it probably means you can't do a one-for-one trade.
13:45It's probably going to have to be a package situation.
13:48We have had more than enough evidence that this ceiling is not just there.
13:53It's not. We've seen him in difficult matchups where they're chasing points and easy matchups where they're chasing points and games where
13:59everyone is healthy and games where players are missing.
14:02We've seen it all. And no matter how you cut it, he's just not succeeding.
14:07The upcoming schedule is Minnesota and Jacksonville. After that, there are some layups, but again, we're really waiting for the layups to
14:13be able to get out of this. We just saw him in a layup match against Tennessee, and it is what it is.
14:20And really and truly, his role doesn't seem to benefit no matter who is out, unfortunately.
14:25And I think Philadelphia is a good comp, right?
14:28We saw Devontae Smith go down, and we did not see a role change for Makai Lemon, right?
14:33We didn't see a role change or a shift in volume for Dontavian Wick.
14:37So sometimes players don't benefit in the same way that you see a Jeremy Bernard benefit because players go down, right?
14:44They just are what they are, unfortunately. And Josh Downs is what it is at this point.
14:49Keenan Allen is the one that is really benefiting specifically from Alec Pierce's injuries.
14:53So short and sweet, guys, just get out while you can for whatever you can.
14:58Yeah, this one's interesting too because it's not even just the timing of what they most recently do.
15:03It's also the schedule facing the Vikings this week and how difficult a matchup that is defensively.
15:08I can't imagine this Colts offense performing too well against them.
15:12And so then I almost wonder if it's like waiting a week to sell him, not because you think he's going to
15:18have a good week, but then you can just point to the schedule like, well, of course he did badly.
15:25It was the Vikings. Now look at what's coming up with Dallas and Miami and the Giants coming up soon and everything.
15:31So that's me just kind of grasping at straws here.
15:34Obviously, it's not going to be that easy to sell him for a huge return at this point regardless.
15:40But yeah, I don't disagree philosophically at all with the idea of just get out of it, right?
15:45Like you don't want to ride this roller coaster.
15:48It's not very likely to get much better and just take what you can get.
15:53But it's always hard to know what these types – I think these are sometimes the most important traits to make is like the sell lows, right?
16:01But it is hard to know what the right value is to get back.
16:05Yeah. The good thing is that there's a lot of guys that are roller coaster guys, but at least they're roller coasters and better offenses.
16:13Like can you scam someone out of a Roma Dunze?
16:16I would rather have that 10 times over because at least he's attached to Caleb Williams.
16:21You can even attach to someone that's a sketchy quarterback.
16:24Try a Casey Concepcion. He continues to get volume.
16:26He ascends. Yeah, Deshaun Watson is occasionally matchup dependent, but we're talking about young talent that is on the field for a
16:33very high amount of snaps and can ascend in the back half of the season.
16:38Yeah, there's things that you can flip down to potentially that are roller coastery but better chances.
16:43Roma Dunze and Josh Downs are back-to-back in consensus for the rest of season rankings so that based on those rankings at least feels doable.
16:50For me, that's easy. I'd rather have a Dunze.
16:53Yeah. You've got a couple players to shop before we get out of here.
16:57Yes, we are going to shop around some tight ends.
17:00Tight ends are not always the easiest because their value is just going to naturally be lower.
17:06But we're going to shop around Dalton Kincaid and Colston Loveland just to call it an exploratory sell on these guys to
17:12try and figure out how your league is looking at them and whether or not you can move them right now.
17:19Or is it a situation where, okay, let me give it a second, get a couple of, you know, maybe get another good game.
17:26Because this is different than, these two guys are very different than a Josh Downs situation or even like a Jalen Waddle
17:33situation where it's like, okay, I'm genuinely sketched out, right?
17:36These are two guys where you can realistically hold this week and see if they hit one more time next week because it's not matchup dependent.
17:43It's not really situational. You can just say, okay, let me just put it out there, see what I got, see if anyone is interested.
17:51Maybe one more good game happens and then I make that move.
17:55So it's not a panic sell here. The difference with these guys is that they do have high ceilings and we know that.
18:02We've seen that in the past. So you can hold if you need to, but put it out there just to see.
18:08Kincaid is on a buy, so he's not really usable right now.
18:12So again, you know, when he returns after the bye week, we're probably going to see him with DJ Moore.
18:18So there's inherent risk in terms of him being a high ceiling guy and a super low floor guy and inconsistency on
18:25a week to week basis, inconsistent pass volume in the Buffalo offense.
18:28You can use him, but honestly, there are times where you're just going to feel super uncomfortable and get a goose egg in your lineup.
18:36Unfortunately, same deal with Loveland. Again, lots of bodies in that offense.
18:40Pass volume is definitely more consistent with Caleb Williams, but at the end of the day, he can send it anyone's direction on a given week.
18:48And you're hoping that we'll get to what we had last season, but we don't, we might not necessarily do that for all we know next week.
18:56Again, it could be a Roman Dunez eight week.
18:58We could have a higher target share to an ascending Luther burden.
19:02That could be someone who is pushing forward and Loveland remains a week to week kind of question mark for us.
19:08So, Hey, look around, see if you can leverage guys that are emerging.
19:12Some of those younger players, rookie players emerging, see how people feel.
19:16I think the rest of season rankings are appropriate because really and truly the guys that are behind them are just as inconsistent.
19:23It's just that these offer more name value that you could potentially get something out of.
19:28What's the offer that you get back where you go, okay, this is like enough for me.
19:33Like I was open to it and now this is a no brainer.
19:37I'm definitely making this trade. What comes to mind?
19:40I could do it. So let's say that someone offered you a Dallas Goddard and paired it up with an actual usable asset.
19:47I could, I could get on board with that for both guys.
19:50Yeah. For yeah. For both guys. You know, I, I think about the Pittsburgh receivers, like let's say that someone picked up
19:57Jeremy Bernard and we feel good about him ascending his role sticking rest of season.
20:02Honestly, I could think about that if we were pairing it up with someone else as well.
20:07So yeah, it's going to be a situational thing where it's just about what works for your roster.
20:12But I think there are logical moves out there that you could make to move off of these volatile assets that you
20:19would just be streaming with other options that are ranked after them, like Harold Fannin Jr.
20:24and whatnot, and move on to something at another position that could help you out.
20:28We'll go ahead and wrap things up there. Thanks everybody for checking out our moves to make before week seven for Tara.
20:35I'm Ryan Wormley. We'll see you again next time.
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