0:00This is an iHeartPodcasts. Guaranteed Human. Welcome to Fantasy Pros.
0:03This is the Fantasy Football Podcast. Today on the show, we are talking about projections.
0:08Who do projections love? Well, we're going to be doing that.
0:11We've got Pat Fitzmaurice and the Athletics' own Jake Seeley, as they might not love all of these players necessarily, but the projections sure do.
0:19So we're going to have a discussion about some standout projected players, who these guys are excited about.
0:25We've got six names for you, and I'm excited to dig into it.
0:29I'm Chris Welsh. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us.
0:33We have the hate episode. Now it's time for a little bit of love.
0:37And when I think about love, I always think about Jake Seeley.
0:41The loving demeanor, the big smile, the happy everything, Jake.
0:44You're what comes to mind when I think about love in projections.
0:48I asked you in the last episode, as somebody that has been doing projections forever, one of the mainstays in the industry
0:55for it, what was kind of a negative or a fault since we were talking about hate?
1:00So what is something that projections in your mind has really nailed or gotten right?
1:05It could be something very simplistic. It statistically put you in the right direction.
1:09You name it. What's something that you have really loved about making projections?
1:13Helps take the bias out of it. And, you know, you go through and you have whatever formula it takes to come up with your projections.
1:21And even with the customizable projections, there's a baseline of per play opportunities and performance that we expect from all these players.
1:28I'm not saying they're going to make 100% right.
1:31They're not. But it kind of helps you take that bias out.
1:35And I reference it and it's going to sound like I'm like victory laughing here, but it's not because, you know, there
1:42was years ago in 2019, I did my projections and it'll always stick in my mind because it's such a good example.
1:49Lamar Jackson spat out as the number two quarterback and that was supposed to be his breakout year.
1:54And I'm like, whoa, that's a little aggressive. Let me personally touch his projections, manipulate them myself and push them down.
2:01And I'll push them down to a happy spot like QB5.
2:04Well, I was dumb because he was QB1 that year, if everybody remembers.
2:08And the projections were even a little bit low.
2:11But that's the point is like the bias wasn't there.
2:14The bias came in from me and saying like, man, that feels kind of aggressive to project that.
2:20So while you can go in and customize my rankings, remember like that's your bias.
2:25This is supposed to give you the baseline and kind of take all that out of the picture to kind of give you like.
2:32And again, we talked about in the last show, it's trying to give you the best estimate like this happens eight out of 10 times.
2:40They're still going to be wrong, but it kind of gives you that like, OK, your opinion doesn't matter.
2:46This is what it should be on like a historical, you know, projection basis.
2:50Fitzy, in the last episode, I did ask you kind of about like, you know, where you've used or do you use
2:57projections as like a baseline or whatever. But now let me make it a little bit different.
3:03Where do you think you side when you do look at projections?
3:06Are you looking and paying attention to the negative or more of the positive?
3:11Because I definitely think that is a common trend for people is they will use.
3:15Obviously, you could use projections as I think reference point is like the greatest use case of it.
3:21But there will be people that are more prone to be hyper focused on the negative or the positive.
3:27What do you think has a bigger impact on you, the negative or positive projection of a player?
3:33Although I'm generally looking for outliers either way, I think I am more it grabs my attention more when a player I
3:40like is projected at numbers that I feel are light.
3:43You know, when projections don't back up my enthusiasm for a player, that's what always makes me take the hardest second look at that player.
3:51OK, well, let's get to some enthusiasm then. Let's make sure we can get Pat up on the positive, not focusing on that negative, because these are projections.
3:59These are players that projections love. And this first segment is about who is exciting you this year.
4:05We had in the last in the hate it was who are you really scared about and worried about?
4:11But who is exciting you guys? If you guys want to follow along with us, go to fantasypros.com slash projections.
4:17You can see what they're looking like. We've got aggregate projections as well, which I think is super beneficial.
4:23Find the median line between different pieces. Fantasypros.com slash projections as well.
4:27Fantasypros.com slash rankings if you want to see the ECR when we kind of dig into that for some of these players.
4:34But let's start with some excitement. Jake, you are going to kick us off here with a running back in Quinshon Judkins.
4:41So give us the excitement and the big play on why we're so excited this year.
4:46Just like no one has ever said Jake is your favorite person and makes everything happy.
4:51Nobody's ever said I'm super excited for nobody else than a Browns player.
4:55But why not do it? Quinchan Jutkins, I thought I was going to be above the projections.
5:00I thought I was going to be one of the highest.
5:03We know what this offense should be and expected to be under similar to a Roman style with Monken and that run heavy.
5:11Bell cow heavy for his lead option, even with Samson involved.
5:14But that gap power, just everything that checks the box for Samson or sorry, Judkins.
5:19Check, check, check, check. Even some usage in the passing game.
5:22And I'm looking. Carries. I'm under. Yards. I'm over.
5:25But rushing touchdowns. Under. Receptions. Under. Receiving yards. Under.
5:28And it's not by a big gap. 177. I have him for 1136.
5:32I actually think he's going to be better on the ground on a per touch basis.
5:37But eight touchdowns. 22. 151. And one in the receiving department.
5:40There's 31. 219. Actually 220. And a half a reception there in the receiving department.
5:45But all that being said is I have him bell cow-y.
5:49Fantasy pros projections have him bell cow-yer. And I think that's the excitement here.
5:53Expect that Judkins, those flashes we saw last year, I think take a step forward this year.
5:58No matter the quarterback situation. I think that Judkins can do well either way.
6:03Especially in an offense that is expected to be one of the more run-heavier offenses in the league.
6:08Pat, what do you think about Quinchon Judkins here?
6:11I like that. Bell cow-y is definitely. That is how I would talk about these type of players.
6:17But heavy praise and heavy projections. Are you buying in?
6:20I do agree with the bell cow-y projections that Jake and fantasy pros both have.
6:25I am feeling like maybe the yardage and touchdown projections are a little bit aggressive for a guy who dislocated his ankle
6:31and fractured his fibula in week 16. And who's going to be playing in a pretty bad offense and running behind a
6:38completely remade offensive line made up of guys who've never really played together before.
6:43So, I don't know if I think the efficiency is going to quite match what the fantasy pros projections have.
6:49But I do agree that if he's able to stay healthy, he should get plenty of touches.
6:54And, again, looking at Judkins here, 294, 1091, eight touchdowns, 31 catches, 219, just under receiving touchdowns.
7:00Let me ask Fitz you a question. Jump in here real quick.
7:03Do you think their offense run game is better or worse than last year or about the same?
7:09Because my only pushback is like – same thing.
7:12It's like I saw eight rushing touchdowns projected for me and then the same thing on fantasy pros.
7:18And I'm like, wow. He ran for seven in 14 games last year.
7:22And I know he's coming off that injury. But, like, I think people forgot that he was able to get in the
7:28end zone as much as he did last season.
7:31Yeah. And I think it's probably no worse than a push for how effective that offense is.
7:37I mean, it's hard for it to get, you know, significantly worse than it was in 25.
7:4225. All right. I know this player is in the excitement range for a lot of people.
7:47Fitz, you're definitely bringing that out here and you're bringing him to the table.
7:52Colson Loveland. So, Colson Loveland coming in at 41 overall, tight end number three.
7:56And you are pretty excited about the projections and the overall run.
8:00So, talk to us about Loveland. Yeah. So, as far as where Loveland ranks in – based on ECR, the projections, my
8:07rankings, tight end three across the board. Maybe for you guys, too.
8:10But it's the projected numbers that have me pretty excited.
8:1480.4 catches, 949.4 yards, 7.0 TDs. I think those are reasonable baseline expectations.
8:18And it's exciting to think about what Loveland's numbers could look like if he outkicks those expectations.
8:23And I think he could. Because we're talking about a guy, after all, who last season from week nine on was tight
8:30end two in fantasy scoring behind only Trey McBride.
8:33And who in his last four games, playoffs included, averaged 12 targets, 7 catches, 94.5 receiving yards.
8:38So, I just – I feel like he could have a big season and it's reassuring to look at the projections and
8:45see that those numbers are also projecting him for a big season.
8:49It's also kind of reassuring. And you've got to be careful about coach speak.
8:53You obviously want to, like, kind of get it in one ear out the other.
8:58But when you hear them talking about they're expanding the route tree for Loveland this year and they're just oohing and aahing
9:05about it, then you can start to do what you just said.
9:08You look at the projections and then you think about the what-ifs.
9:12And the what-ifs become a little bit more plausible when it's, like, route trees expanding.
9:17They're falling in love with him in the offense.
9:20Like, it's one of those guys where it's, like, you miss out on Bowers and it's, like, you can take a third or fourth round shot at Loveland.
9:28You're still getting the high end of tight end and maybe not having the big cost.
9:33There's just so many big positives to it. But what do you think, Jake?
9:38Are you in this same space of excitement around Colson Loveland?
9:41No, I don't have him third. And I don't have him fourth.
9:45I don't have him second. My projections said, and I'm going to leave my hands off of it, just like I should
9:52have done with Mar Jackson, but maybe that's the opposite.
9:55Now you guys should change it. Spat him out as number one at tight end.
10:00Wow. And that's, for reference point, that's with 23% of the target share going to Burden, 22% going to Dunsay, and 21.6%.
10:07Going to Loveland, because that's also including 13.6% including the backfield.
10:10This is, despite having numerous options we like, and everybody's probably seen the video by now where I say buy the cake, not the icing.
10:18If you're concerned. If you're concerned that Loveland has a risk of being the third guy or Dunsay or whatever, I just
10:25say keep buying Caleb Williams if we think this offense is going to buy out or play out.
10:30But I'm still buying Loveland. And I think there's room where you could play with this and turn him up to 24%
10:37and leads the entire team in targets. And I am for 83, 1,004 and 8.3 touchdowns.
10:42And honestly, I don't think that's a ceiling. I think there's more for that.
10:47So if you want to make the argument to let other people take Bowers and McBride and take Loveland the round after, thumbs up.
10:54Go for it. Hands where we can see them, pal.
10:57Don't you dare touch those projections. You keep them right where they are.
11:01You listen to what you said. I love that.
11:04That's awesome. That's a fun nugget there. I don't know what to do with them.
11:09Hands up. Don't touch the projections is what you're going to do with them.
11:13All right. So those are a couple of guys that you guys are excited about.
11:18We're now going to jump into projections versus ECR.
11:21So this is looking at some of the ECR.
11:24And obviously, the projections are going to be this, you know, a positive outcome.
11:28You guys also have the ability here to be negative against that positive.
11:32But these are four standout projections versus ECR. Before we do it, though, I want to remind you guys we're talking about projections.
11:39Projections can help you spot value before the draft room catches up.
11:43And that's why you guys can use the cheat sheet creator.
11:47You can build custom rankings for your league. Adjust players based on your strategy like, oh, I don't know.
11:53Colson Loveland is a must target. You can add tiers, tags, player notes, and you can move projected back targets up your board before draft day.
12:01So when one of these players falls where he should go, you're all ready to take advantage of it.
12:07Go to fantasypros.com slash sheet or download the Fantasy Pros app.
12:10And you can build these customized cheat sheets today.
12:13They're very super helpful. You can also build a couple different ones to try out those strategies when you're getting in mock drafts.
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12:24All right. Let's jump into this. We've got a quarterback, a running back, a tight end, and then we've got a flex
12:31spot here of another player that we can talk about.
12:34So we will cover each one of those. Jake, you're going to kick us off here.
12:39This is going to be a high projection. You get to take either range.
12:44You pick this player out. And he is Brees Hall.
12:47Comes in at 36 overall on ECR. He comes in as RB15.
12:51But what say you on the love of the projections of Brees Hall this year?
12:55I love seeing it because I also love the projections for Brees Hall, similar to my Jutkin stake, is that I'm expecting
13:02to feel pretty high on Brees Hall. Mostly because I've been on this very network and Bogman just wanted to laugh himself
13:09out of the chair when I said, Geno Smith isn't the worst thing in the world in a super flex as your third quarterback.
13:17And that's all I was suggesting to say the point that Geno Smith is getting lambasted for what went wrong last year
13:24when everybody's sitting there at the same time saying the Raiders did everything wrong.
13:28And we look at the Jets and if Geno can just be a capable, he doesn't even need to be middle of
13:35the pack quarterback, but a capable quarterback for this team and this offense where Brees Hall is still one of the better
13:42running backs on a per touch basis, even with the miserable team he played for last year.
13:47Miserable offense he played for. The offensive line is still strong enough to hold them, unlike the concerns we might have for Judkins.
13:54But Brees Hall, 300 plus touches. Like I had him very close to 300 and I was expecting again to be kind of the highest on Brees Hall.
14:03And the biggest thing I think is because everybody's looking at Braylon Allen.
14:07I know Braylon Allen just said he was like the slimmest 250 he's ever been or whatever.
14:13It's best shape of your lifetime of the year.
14:15But Braylon Allen, I look as kind of like the Blake Corum to Kyron Williams, where it's fine if he sees some touches.
14:23I actually don't even think it'll be as many touches as Kyron seeds to Corum.
14:27But if Hall seeds some to Braylon Allen, it's not the end of the world.
14:32Not every running back needs to touch the ball 80% of the time.
14:36Ashton Gentty last year. How did that work out?
14:39So it really depends on the offense and the style and everything there.
14:43And Brees Hall is just still one of the best running backs in the league because of also how much he does in the receiving game.
14:51And so that's why I'm super excited to see that the projections are as excited as I am to see that.
14:58260 carries and then 47 and a half receptions tossed on top of it.
15:02For all intents and purposes, just about 1,600 yards and nine touchdowns.
15:06I think that's well in play if Geno is a capable quarterback.
15:10Yeah, 1,157 rushing yards, 415 receiving. Everything you laid out, almost 10 touchdowns.
15:14There's some pretty aggressive stuff in there. Brees Hall comes in also as the projected 13th running back.
15:19So ECR was, what did I say? 15. The projected number makes him the 13th.
15:24So there's a little bit of a battle there happening.
15:27So he might be, he's underranked technically based off of where the projections are at.
15:32Yeah, I forgot to mention that. I actually have him as my 14th.
15:36I have Jeremiah Love one spot in front of him.
15:39I think that might be the one that they're from.
15:42Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Jeremiah Love is one spot under on the projected side.
15:46So you're also higher than ECR. Pat, what do you think about Brees Hall?
15:51Quarterbacking question, big productions projected. What say you? I'm more aligned with ECR than projections, but I'm also pretty much on board with everything Jake said about Hall.
15:59He's really good. This offensive line should be no worse than average and potentially better than average.
16:05And, you know, unlike Scott Bogman, I would happily take Geno Smith as my third quarterback in the Superflakes.
16:11I'm totally fine with that. The thing that Jake said where Jake has lower volume in his projections than we have, I
16:17very much agree with that because why would you kill Brees Hall in a year that you know is you're not going to the promised land?
16:26And you've got, yeah, you've got three first round picks in what should be a loaded 2027 class.
16:31There's just really no incentive for you to beat Brees Hall in the ground, especially when you've got two potentially pretty decent
16:38backups behind him and not only Braylon Allen, but Isaiah Davis too.
16:42So I just don't see if, you know, the Jets have their wits about them, which, you know, that's always up for debate.
16:49But I just don't see the incentive to give Brees Hall 20 touches a game this year.
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19:09Slash com. Bogman taking ricochet shots in this episode.
19:12But there's one. He will never back down about his hate for Geno Smith.
19:16We've had years, a couple years ago, going on about that.
19:20He has just a built-in hate of Geno Smith.
19:23And that is never going to push it. And Omerta.
19:26Yeah. It doesn't matter. You could just put, you know, prime Barry Sanders, prime Jerry Rice around him.
19:31And Geno's going to ruin everybody. That makes me laugh.
19:34All right. Pat, you've got a guy here. Projections versus ECR.
19:38It's Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart with a 78 overall on the ECR.
19:42Just kind of consensus overall board. But QB 10, that is not where projections end up putting him out.
19:48As a matter of fact, I'll let you give the numbers.
19:51But he comes in at quarterback six based off of the consensus fantasy pros projection.
19:56So this is a very big ECR versus projected number.
19:59You can talk about the numbers and what you think about this.
20:03But let's hear about Jackson Dart. Yeah. And the projections have Dart for about 3,600 passing yards.
20:0823 and a half touchdown passes. 542.6 rushing yards and 6.8 touchdown runs.
20:12And I could actually get on board with those projections if Dart makes 16 or 17 starts.
20:17And if Malik Neighbors plays at least, say, 15 games.
20:21But as we all know, the vibes on Neighbors recovery from a torn ACL and torn meniscus, not great.
20:26All offseason. Kind of running around like Fred Sanford at some team charity softball game.
20:31And, you know, young ones go see the reruns of Sanford and Son if you want to understand that reference.
20:37A lot of reruns being watched these days too there, Pat.
20:41But yeah, I got you. Yes, exactly. And then Dart.
20:44Like we can all agree. I think that Dart had a pretty reckless style of play his rookie year, you know, and
20:51took some hellacious hits, including one against the Bears that gave him a concussion that knocked him out for a couple of games.
20:58And maybe even if Dart stays mostly healthy this season, I'm not going to lie.
21:03I'm not feeling all that great about Dart taking a big leap forward in year two with Matt Nagy as the Giants offensive coordinator.
21:10All right. So Pat's a little bit negative against this.
21:13So this is a big positive projection that not necessarily buying probably closer into the ECR.
21:18Real quick, Pat, are you closer to ECR range like QB 9 or 10?
21:23I'm QB 13. Okay, even more. I'm ECR too.
21:26So yeah, these projections are definitely, you know, rosy.
21:28Definitely rosy. I mean, it's the sixth QB. But Jake, what do you think here?
21:33ECR versus projections versus Pat. Where do you lie?
21:36It's funny is I'm on both sides. So ECR, I'm higher because once I miss on the top six quarterbacks, I'm chasing the upside.
21:44Like I go back to the conversation we had on the other show is between Brock Purdy, Dart, Lawrence and all those type of guys.
21:51I'm going to chase to one because of the rushing upside.
21:55That's the biggest push for Dart is that I'm actually above on consensus in his rushing yards and touchdowns.
22:01Not by a lot, but a bit. I actually mostly in the touchdowns.
22:05I'm from eight rushing touchdowns just because I don't think that's going to change a lot.
22:10And of course, if he gets hurt, there's the major risk.
22:13I'm actually under in the passing and the projections are under.
22:17I'm at QB 12. I have him at QB 9 in rankings because I would take that chance.
22:22Like I don't want QB 12. I don't really want QB 9.
22:26I want the guy in that range that I think has the chance to finish top six.
22:31So I'm going to take that shot. But I do agree a lot with Fitz.
22:36The one pushback I always give with everybody talking about Nagy is I actually like what Harbaugh did.
22:42He brought on Nagy and Roman. Nagy sucks in the run department.
22:46Roman sucks in the pass department. He's giving them one job to do and said, stop trying to do both.
22:52You focus on the pass. You focus on the run.
22:55And he might get the best out of both of them.
22:58But it all goes back to the part that I agree the most and why my projections are actually under on the
23:05passing department from what Fancy Pros has. It's because I don't think he's necessarily going to pass 505, 510 times.
23:12I have him for 479. Mostly because of this offense and the health of Malik Nabors and the question marks at wide receivers.
23:19There's a lot here that maybe we're saying next year we should have seen it coming.
23:24Or maybe it's the second part of the year when Nabors is 100%.
23:28But with Fitz, I'm more wary on it all connecting and hitting this season.
23:32Despite the fact I will take the chance because, again, I want to chase that top six upside, even with the risk
23:39that I might be looking for a new quarterback come week four.
23:43But the thing is replacement value is so high this year that if you decide you can't deal with Jackson Dart, the
23:50guy you pick up off waivers might be like Jared Goff.
23:53Jared Goff is my quarterback 19, and I think Jared Goff is terrific.
23:57I feel like this is like the tail as old as time type of thing where it's like, oh, you missed out on the top tier quarterbacks.
24:06And it's like, who wants to mess with that middle range?
24:09Who wants to mess with that cost when it's like the variance between QB7 and QB14 is like super low?
24:15And then everyone starts – the only time that those guys become values is when everybody's playing the same dance.
24:22Who's going to break first and take the quarterback six, seven, eight or whatever, and everybody's waiting at the latter part of it?
24:29Then maybe you can find a deal, but it's just like – it's just not worth it.
24:34So very interesting break. You have to go from – It was basically QB8 to QB18 last year to get two points per game difference.
24:42I mean, yeah, that's a well said. Great point to the reason behind it.
24:46Love to see people's takes on Jackson Dart here because I think you're going to have a variance across the board here.
24:53Big ECR differences, especially from U2 versus what the projections are looking like.
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27:15Final two, we're going to a wide receiver. We actually have a couple wide receivers to talk about.
27:21Jake, you are looking at the high projections of Jameson Williams, who is wide receiver 25 on ECR, 50th overall, but his
27:28projections on Fantasy Pros put him as wide receiver 22.
27:31So the 22 highest projected wide receiver. What say you, my friend?
27:35I say I was trying to be mostly positive from the last show, even though we were hating on projections, to mostly
27:41positive so far on this one to now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
27:46I do not like this at all. Mostly we've already seen this story.
27:50And, you know, I even made the joke on Twitter like a bunch of people did.
27:55And I used the thing from Thanos and I said, you know, we got the breakout from Jamison Williams.
28:01What did it cost you? It cost you Sam Laporta.
28:04Well, Sam Laporta is back in play. Sam Laporta is 100%.
28:08Sam Laporta also has an offensive coordinator who is strictly under that Stefanski tree of loving tight ends, loving their usage, loving 12 and 13 sets even.
28:16And it just makes me get this feeling to my stomach of remember Jamison Williams before we saw Dan Campbell take Dan
28:23Campbell take back over the play calling that we're going back to that Jamison Williams or basically Jamison Williams for two years
28:30ago when it was back to that Jamison Williams, where he's a great third option, but it's going to be Laporta as the two.
28:38And that's look, there's a world where that doesn't happen.
28:41And Jamison is still the number two on this team.
28:44And Laporta is the three and I'm talking about opportunity sharing all that type of stuff.
28:49But to put him here locked into a top 24 wide receiver, not accounting for that risk, especially with the offensive style
28:56and a healthy Laporta, 100% healthy Laporta. I just you got to factor some of that in my opinion.
29:02I think Jamison Williams needs to be further down into the wide receiver threes, similar to old school Deshaun Jackson, where you know what?
29:09You're going to get eight great games, but trying to predict when those are going to happen is going to be the most frustrating part of Jamison Williams.
29:18And I don't want a wide receiver with that kind of inconsistency as my two as my three.
29:24I'll take them all day long, but I do not love how aggressive these projections feel.
29:29I know they're not super aggressive, but 1050 yards and six and almost six and a half touchdowns feels like a lot
29:35for somebody who could be the third option behind Laporta.
29:39Yeah, 63 catches, as you said, 1053, 6.3 on the touchdowns.
29:42He is above Alex Pierce, Alec Pierce, Ladd McConkie, Cortland Sutton, right below Terry McLaurin, Devontae Adams, Ted O'Reilly McMillan.
29:48He is within one. Above McConkie is bananas to me.
29:51Let me make that clear. But even if he hits those numbers, let me make that clear.
29:57Like, even if he has those numbers, because my projections aren't that far off, but I just have him down at wide
30:04receiver 27 in my projections, is it's going to be an inconsistent ride to get there.
30:09Yeah, I'm staring at this, too. It's like, is this Stanis?
30:12It's half PPR. It's weird, because McLaurin is projected for, like, 10 more catches, a touchdown and a half more, and a
30:19little bit less yards, but they're within, like, one point of each other.
30:23Waddle's behind him. Boudle is behind him. McLaurin, as you said.
30:27Devontae Smith is behind. Like, this is... There's a little bit of projected rushing yards, because they like to do that with
30:33Jameson Williams, so that's kind of factored in, like, slightly.
30:37But, Pat, what do you think? Like, Jameson Williams, are you on the opposite side of this?
30:42Are you maybe a plus on Jameson Williams in this offense, or do you agree this is overinflated for someone that is...
30:49I mean, you guys are saying three. I'm going to just be four.
30:53I think it's probably more fourth than the offense behind...
30:56Gibbs included. Not just Laporta. Yeah, yeah. We're throwing Gibbs in there with Laporta and Amonra.
31:01I'm kind of on the side of the projections, and that's sort of where I am as far as my rankings.
31:08I think Jake makes a solid point. Like, part of the reason Laporta has sort of underperformed the last couple of years, no doubt it's health-related.
31:16But I also think part of it is related to the breakout we've seen from Jameson Williams the last couple of years.
31:23And the breakout was largely Jameson Williams staying healthy.
31:25As far as the play-calling thing, so I think part of the reason that Campbell yanked play-calling duties away from John Morton,
31:32was that he wasn't using Jameson Williams the way Campbell wanted him to be.
31:37We started seeing Jameson on more crossers, and he was killing it on crossers.
31:41He was averaging... But then why bring in Petsing?
31:44That's what's so baffling to me, Fitz. Right. But don't you think, though, Jake, when Petsing was interviewing, part of it was
31:51like, okay, how are you going to use Jameson Williams?
31:54What is your plan? And if that plan didn't jibe with what Dan Campbell thinks is best, I don't think Petsing would have gotten the gig.
32:02It could be. It could have been like, I saw what you did with McBride.
32:07So maybe Laporta can take that next step. Don't disagree.
32:10For everybody listening right now or watching, I don't want to get too hung up in you versus me on this one.
32:17I think the biggest takeaway I want to make clear is that where he's at is too aggressive overall.
32:23Because it's just not factoring any risk. For him to be what you say, wide receiver 24, 25, that's him clearly being
32:30the number two and Laporta being the four, like you were saying.
32:33So that's my issue. I agree. And the final point I'll make is that I just don't think Jameson's value is not necessarily volume based.
32:41He averaged exactly six targets a game last year, which isn't that much.
32:45But for his career, he is averaging 10.3 yards per target.
32:49Like he is highly efficient because of the big plays he makes and all the damage he can do after the catch.
32:56This guy is like a home run waiting to happen.
32:59So that's why I can kind of get down with the projections here.
33:03Okay. Boy, I'll tell you though. Look at the overall.
33:06And I see Bucky Irving below him. I see Mike Evans below him.
33:10And I'm like, all right. Like, I don't know how much we're going to vibe on it.
33:15But yeah, he's a big explosive play. That's actually also my weird take of like McLaurin and him.
33:21I look at that and it's like McLaurin makes his, you know, a lot of his weight off of like big plays as well.
33:29I just think there's a better chance of volume for a guy like him over Jameson Williams.
33:34And Williams being over him just stands out. The last one, fireworks here, you know, or police sirens, however you want to look at it.
33:42Pat, you picked Rasheed Rice. Rasheed Rice comes in at 27 overall.
33:45Wide receiver 12 here. His projections, I know this is going to be part of your tell here.
33:51He is the sixth highest projected wide receiver. So there is a clear stance here of people having just overall concerns about
33:58what the hell is just going on with him in general.
34:01The projections are high. The ECR, it's still high, but it's like quite a big difference between like what the projected numbers are.
34:09There's just all this, you know, stuff in the offseason.
34:12You tell us. Do you love? Do you hate?
34:15Are the offseason things worrying you that there could be more to come?
34:19What do you make of this very, very high projection on Rasheed Rice?
34:23Yeah. If we're using AI for these projections, are we feeding the AI some of these police reports and news stories?
34:29Are they pulling Jerry Rice numbers? Yeah. I mean, here's the projected stat line we have for Rasheed Rice.
34:35100 catches, 1,090 yards, 8.1 touchdowns. All right. If we get— It's actually 11 touchdowns.
34:408.1 is the rushing attempt. It's 11 projected touchdowns.
34:43Oh, 8.1 is receiving. We have him down for a couple of rushing.
34:47I didn't even see the rushing. So, yeah, are the projections factoring in Rasheed Rice's terrible personal judgment?
34:52Are they factoring in the fact that he recently had a cleanup surgery on his knee and has been having to do
34:59his rehab work in a Texas jail? Like, I just don't feel the projections are baking in the injury risk and the poor judgment risk here.
35:07Simple as that. What about— Like, this one baffles me.
35:11Yeah, go ahead, Jake. Just jump right into this Rasheed Rice.
35:14I was going to say, what about Patrick Mahomes being 100% Patrick Mahomes week one?
35:19Like, I know everything's— Thank you. It's also that time of the year.
35:23Like, Patrick Mahomes, I'm going to be ready 100% for week one.
35:27George Kittle, I'm going to be ready 100% for week— Like, it's that time of year.
35:32Everybody's 100%. And we look back in the history and how many times did we get to week one?
35:38Hell, this time last year— No, completely different player.
35:40But at this time last year, it was Chris Godwin, 100% ready week one.
35:45And we didn't see Chris Godwin until the middle of the season.
35:49And now even probably 100% until this year. So I just bring it up to say is, like, I think— I can't agree with Fitz anymore on this.
35:57I don't even have him as a wide receiver, one of my projections, because I just think there are way too many
36:04factors at risk and in play here to have Rasheed Rice looking that optimistic.
36:09Jake, where do you have him? I have him for 87, 975, and 8.
36:13Oh, I meant rank. I meant— Oh, rank? That's probably like 15.
36:17Well, that's two different stories, too. So, like, he checks in as a top 20 in projections rank, I think.
36:23Let me go back, and I will tell you in one second as I fill time and air to say, like, I
36:30will tell you— I see how I did there.
36:33I'm wide receivers. Go ahead. Where do you have him?
36:36No, no, no. Where do you have him as— This is what I wanted to know.
36:4116. Okay. I'm actually higher than my projections because this goes into play of where I'll take the risk because he still
36:48has to— Similar to the dark conversation. I have him 12 because once I get past in my ranks, I feel like A.J.
36:55Brown was now the drop-off. Initially, I would say C.D.
36:58Lamb at 7 was the drop-off, but now Brown at 8.
37:01After that, with, like, the Nico Collins, Alave, McMillan, Flowers, Higgins, Rice, they could all finish as wide receiver ones and all could finish as wide receiver 18.
37:10But if he's a healthy—Mahomes is healthy. He stays on the field.
37:14He gets the target share. I mean, we know Rasheed Rice has top-five upside, and that's why I would take the chance
37:21once I get into that conversation in names. Again, the number is 100.1 projected receptions, 1,089 yards, 11 receiving touchdowns, plus 8
37:28carries 38 yards, and another rushing touchdown. So that is a projected 12 touchdowns out of Rasheed Rice this year.
37:34That could happen. He's got 14 for his career.
37:37Show me the projected games. Right, he's averaged basically half a touchdown per game over his career.
37:42That seems pretty aggressive. I would say I think the most important projection is games played, is what I want to see
37:49before I start diving into the waters there. So very interesting stuff.
37:53Again, projections. Lovin' Quinchon Jutkins, Colson Loveland, Brees Hall, Jackson Dart, Jamison Williams, and Rasheed Rice.
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