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Week 5 Fantasy Football Key Questions: Must-Start Players, Risky Rankings & Predictions (Ep. 2252)

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1 hr 15 min
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Oct 9, 2026
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Fri, October 9, 2026
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Drake MayeMike EvansAntonio WilliamsBraelon AllenBrian RobinsonBucky IrvingCarnell TateChris OlaveChristian WatsonChuba HubbardDak PrescottDK MetcalfEmanuel WilsonEmeka Egbuka
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Antonio Williams

PositiveUsage40:52

With injuries to other Commanders pass catchers, Antonio Williams is expected to be the unquestioned WR1 for the team, making him a viable high-end WR3 to low-end WR2 start.

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Braelon Allen

NegativeUsage29:20

Allen is a high-end to mid-range RB2 who maintains a massive snap share (94% last week). He is in a good position due to the Browns' poor run defense.

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Brian Robinson

PositiveUsage16:52

Brian Robinson Jr. is coming off four touchdowns in two weeks and is considered a superior start to Will Shipley.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveBreakout4:55

Bucky Irving has looked very good, highlighted by a 70-yard run against the Cowboys where he navigated through traffic.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeUsage37:17

Tate has elite usage metrics (7th in target share at 26.9%, 3rd in air yard share at 50.1%), but his fantasy output is capped by Cam Ward's struggles with accuracy.

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Chris Olave

PositiveUsage25:27

Olave is a confident start despite the tough matchup. He has elite metrics against zone coverage, including a 31% target per route run rate and 3.43 yards per route run.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection42:42

Watson is ranked as a mid-WR2 (around WR11-13) and is preferred over Matthew Golden due to his superior efficiency against single-high safety looks, which the Bears run frequently.

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Chuba Hubbard

NegativeUsage0:39

Chuba Hubbard is on a bye week, which is impacting fantasy lineups following his recent strong games.

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Dak Prescott

NegativeProjection12:06

Dak Prescott struggled in the first half but played well in the second half; his two interceptions were largely due to tipped balls and drops by Jake Ferguson.

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DK Metcalf

NegativeValue35:00

Metcalf is ranked too high at WR21. The source notes recency bias in his rankings and points out that the Colts are better against outside receivers than slot receivers.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection20:14

Maye is a high-end QB1 and a must-start; his ability to make elite throws and his rushing floor (54 yards vs. Bills) make him a reliable fantasy asset. The panic from a week ago was unjustified.

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PositiveValue20:51

The source prefers starting Maye over Joe Burrow if both Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins are out. Maye is ranked as QB7 in consensus, closely valued against Jacoby Brissett.

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PositiveProjection30:46

Drake Maye is trending upward as a QB1 after a strong performance against the Bills, aided by improved play-calling (increased motion and play action).

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Emanuel Wilson

PositiveValue30:42

Wilson is undervalued in ECR; the source ranks him higher than both Quinshawn Judkins and Braylon Allen for Week 5.

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Emeka Egbuka

NegativeUsage9:03

Emeka Ebuka did not have a strong fantasy night, recording six catches for 36 yards, though he made a key third-down conversion.

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George Pickens

PositiveUsage8:09

Derek Brown highlights George Pickens' performance on Thursday night, where he recorded nine catches for 130 yards and a touchdown.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeInjury26:38

Ja'Marr Chase is dealing with a concussion; he has a coin-flip chance to play, with his status dependent on clearing protocol by Saturday.

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Jacoby Brissett

NegativeValue21:08

Brissett is ranked as QB6 in consensus, one spot ahead of Drake Maye, due to a favorable matchup against the Lions' secondary.

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Jake Ferguson

NegativeUsage13:15

Jake Ferguson is criticized for failing to secure catches, contributing to Dak Prescott's interception total.

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Jalon Daniels

PositiveProjection8:29

Jalen Daniels is providing competent quarterback play for the Bucs, utilizing his legs and benefiting from a strong game plan by Zach Robinson that simplifies reads.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeProjection41:13

Jayden Daniels is ranked as a low-end QB1 (QB10-11), but there is concern regarding his rushing upside and ball security due to an arm brace.

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Josh Allen

PositiveProjection111:14

The analysts expect a massive performance from Josh Allen on Monday night, with Fitz predicting a Bills win and Allen potentially reclaiming his status as the MVP favorite.

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Josh Downs

NegativeProjection32:28

Downs is ranked too high at WR23. The source is concerned about Daniel Jones's poor play and the Steelers' defensive strength against slot receivers.

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Kenneth Walker III

NegativeUsage0:39

The source notes that Kenneth Walker is on a bye week, which is impacting fantasy lineups alongside his recent strong performance.

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Keon Coleman

PositiveBreakout109:59

Fitz predicts Keon Coleman will score another touchdown on Monday night, noting he is effectively the wide receiver handcuff in the Bills' offense.

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Kyle Juszczyk

NegativeInjury47:21

Juszczyk is ruled out for Week 5 with a knee injury, which is viewed as a significant blow to the 49ers' offensive scheme.

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Kyren Williams

PositiveUsage110:24

Debro projects Kyren Williams as the overall RB1 for the week, citing his elite usage over the last two games: 76.1% snap share, 23.5 touches per game, and 152.5 total yards per game, mirroring Christian McCaffrey's workload.

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Mark Andrews

PositiveValue107:16

Mark Andrews is a four-star prop bet to go over 30.5 receiving yards, as the Falcons have struggled significantly against tight ends and the Ravens are expected to pass frequently.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

PositiveBust45:33

Harrison is considered a major disappointment with a 7.2% target share and sub-1.0 yards per route run. He is only recommended as a desperation start in deep leagues or due to extreme injury/bye week issues.

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Matthew Golden

NegativeProjection42:42

Ranked as a mid-WR2 (WR16-17), Golden is less efficient than Watson against single-high safety looks, which the Bears utilize on 63% of snaps.

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Mike Evans

PositiveProjection48:04

Despite not being 100% healthy, Evans is viewed as an 'iron man' and a necessary difference-maker for the 49ers' offense against a tough Seahawks defense.

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PositiveUsage102:09

Despite health concerns, Mike Evans remains a high-upside play against Seattle's two-high coverage, boasting a 33% target per route run rate and 3.1 yards per route run this season.

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Mike Gesicki

PositiveProjection22:16

Mike Gesicki is a strong start against the Dolphins, who have struggled against tight ends; he is ranked as a TE1 or high-end TE2 depending on the status of Chase and Higgins.

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Quinshon Judkins

PositiveUsage29:20

Judkins is preferred over Braylon Allen due to his involvement in the passing game, having recorded 15 receptions. He is a high-end to mid-range RB2.

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RJ Harvey

PositiveUsage44:00

Harvey is preferred over Hampton by some analysts due to his consistent pass-catching role, having recorded at least four catches in every game this season.

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Roman Wilson

PositiveBreakout33:08

Wilson is a strong start with Michael Pittman Jr. out. He has been efficient on a per-route basis (3.83 yards per route run) and benefits from Aaron Rodgers' aggressive deep-ball approach.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeInjury28:15

Tee Higgins is unlikely to play this week as he has been listed as a DNP in practice despite some individual side work.

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Tyler Huntley

PositiveValue107:06

Fitz identifies Tyler Huntley's passing yardage prop of 174.5 as a three-star bet to hit the over, noting the Falcons are a major pass-funnel defense.

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Will Shipley

NegativeValue13:37

Derek Brown advises against starting Will Shipley unless absolutely necessary, citing poor efficiency metrics (1.8 explosive run rate, 1.63 yards after contact) and a tough matchup against the Jaguars.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveProjection104:17

Even if Lamar Jackson is out, Zay Flowers remains a top-12 wide receiver play. Debro notes his elite talent and consistent involvement, while Fitz highlights that Tyler Huntley has historically targeted Flowers at a high rate, even if the average depth of target is lower.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hello everybody, welcome into the FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast.
0:05I'm Ryan Warmly, joined by Derek Brown and Pat Fitzmaurice.
0:08We are talking Week 5 Key Questions, previewing the slate ahead.
0:12Just a reminder for everybody, as I always give, all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at FantasyPros.com slash rankings.
0:19Also a reminder, a couple of teams are on by this week, I'm sure you remember, but just in case you didn't,
0:26it is the Panthers and the Chiefs, so we officially have fewer teams to be talking about on these episodes.
0:32Fewer players to be picking from in your lineups, and even though it's only two teams, it is really hitting me hard
0:39in a couple of leagues where I, you know, went heavy on Walker or McMillan or, you know, Chuba Hubbard.
0:45So I'm sure other people are in a similar boat there.
0:48Debra, how are you doing here heading into Week 5?
0:51Doing good, buddy. It was an interesting Thursday Night Football game, but I think we're all just collectively as a group, as
0:58a community, as a consortium, trying to just wade through what feels like Week 15, but it's only Week 5 because of
1:05injuries, and now we have bye weeks. Yeah, the injury bye week combo, particularly since guys like Kenneth Walker and Ted O'McMillan
1:12are coming, and Chuba Hubbard are all coming off such great games.
1:15It feels like a more impactful bye week, like I said already, and also all the injuries going on.
1:21That's a great call that it really does feel like a later season week here.
1:26Fitz, where's your head at right now through all this?
1:29Yeah, at least it's only two teams for this first bye week.
1:32The NFL is easing us into the boiling water rather than submerging us in a four-team or six-team bye week.
1:39So that's good, I guess. But yeah, there have been a lot of injuries to contend with.
1:44It's a lot to deal with. Patty, in this metaphor, are we all frogs?
1:48Is that where we're going with this? I think so, yes.
1:52But I tend to feel like it does feel as though the injuries – here's what I'll say.
1:57I really have always been somebody who prefers the stars approach in building a team.
2:02Like stars are what matter. Depth is kind of overrated.
2:05I want to trade my depth for stars, generally speaking, not in every circumstance, but just sort of as a high-level rule.
2:12This feels like a year where the depth might actually be what kind of carries you into the playoffs and a one-seed and everything like that.
2:20Just if you can survive this level of early injuries and bye weeks, that onslaught that's coming in the future.
2:26It might be a year where depth kind of rules things.
2:29Let's talk quickly about that Thursday game. A surprising finish, certainly based on the Vegas line.
2:3424-16 Bucs win. They get their first win of the season over the Cowboys in Dallas.
2:39And boy, Fitz, Cowboys just looked really bad. I don't even really know what else to say.
2:44They just looked – they stunk. Their defense – I thought everything on offense was fixable and there were some mistakes.
2:51But the defense was really bad and Christian Parker has not fixed things.
2:55And it's not Christian Parker failing to tackle Bucky Irving on that 70-yard run where he picked his way through all that
3:01traffic and probably should have been on the ground after like two yards.
3:05A lot of penalties like defensive backs grabbing guys when the Cowboys should have gotten off the field.
3:11Just really sloppy. And man, the NFC East is really topsy-turvy.
3:14I thought that was one of the easiest divisions to peg before the season.
3:19Probably the Eagles, maybe the Cowboys, not the Giants or the Commanders.
3:22I was totally wrong about that. Like the Giants or Commanders could win that division.
3:27I mean, is there a path to this being the worst division in football?
3:31Like I know we always think of that as like the NFC South.
3:35But man, if the Eagles are followed apart, trading way off – you know, losing offensive linemen, I should say.
3:41And they're not all trades. Cowboys just get blown out – not blown out, but like lose pretty handily at home to a winless Bucs team.
3:49Commanders have quarterback injuries. I know Jaden Daniels is coming back this week.
3:53The Giants, I'm not like a total believer in.
3:56Like it's topsy-turvy, but it also just seems really weak, D-Bro.
3:59Oh, yeah, I'm taking the NFC South over the NFC East.
4:03I mean, right now I think it kind of deserves the moniker of the NFC East.
4:08Look, they're a Jaden Daniels injury away from starting – or as Marcus Mariota's hurt – starting a late-round rookie.
4:14The Cowboys seem to have no type of defense, which – I mean, good Lord.
4:18We just need Joey Porter Jr. to actually be on the field.
4:22I know he was sick with a stomach bug last night and stuff, but this defense just looks – it's a lot
4:29of communication, a lot of blown coverage. And like Patty talked about, a lot of – just a lot of penalties, man.
4:36But to that point, the Eagles are melting down.
4:38They don't have an offensive line. Their defense hasn't come to play, and now they have injuries on that side of the ball.
4:45So, yeah, like I'll take the NFC South over the East.
4:49By the way, shouts to you, D-Bro. You were all over George Pickens this week, nine catches, 130 yards, and a touchdown on the Thursday night game.
4:57Any quick thoughts before we move on on the Bucs side of this one, guys?
5:02I mean, does this tell you more about the state of the Cowboys, or do you think there's signs of life here for Tampa Bay?
5:09I mean, obviously, Jalen Daniels is still an undrafted rookie quarterback here, kind of thrown into the fire sooner than you would expect.
5:17But he did lead this team to a road win last night, Fitz.
5:20I underestimated Jalen Daniels. He has actually looked pretty good commanding this team.
5:24And, like, he's not going to go out and throw for 300 or 400 yards.
5:29But he made enough throws, and he was kind of on target with a lot of the throws he made.
5:35I mean, there was that tough throw that he ripped to Emeka Ebuka for a first down on, like, third and 14 or something.
5:43A throw that Cowboys just cannot allow to be completed.
5:46But, yeah, he has impressed me so far. Bucky Irving has looked really good.
5:50And, you know, they're getting enough from their wide receivers.
5:53Like, Ebuka didn't really have a good night for fantasy.
5:56He made it happen with that touchdown run and six catches that went for, what, 30, 36 yards or something.
6:02But, yeah, it's the offensive line is still pretty good.
6:05And with a good offensive line, like, a lot of things can work out if you get competent quarterback play.
6:12And Jalen Daniels is giving them competent quarterback play.
6:14Debra? Yeah, I mean, my take away for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is I really want to give a shout-out to Zach
6:21Robinson here because I felt like the game plan that he handed to Jalen Daniels was very good.
6:27He wasn't asking too much out of the rookie quarterback.
6:30He used his legs. And, really, you could tell probably in the team meetings leading up to this, it was like, look,
6:36we're going to try to cut the field in half.
6:39Use your legs a good bit. Give you a lot of easy button throws.
6:44Now, I'm not taking anything away from his performance, but I really want to shout-out Zach Robinson here for the game plan
6:51that they designed for Jalen Daniels because you could also tell it was a lot of, like, okay, first, second read.
6:57That's not there. Use your legs. Take the easy yards that Dallas is going to give you.
7:02And they ran the ball well. So, the Bucs have life here.
7:06And, again, talking about the NFC South, like, if the East, we only see, like, the division winner come out of that.
7:13Could we see two wildcard teams come out of the South?
7:16I don't think it's crazy because it's not like anybody else is, like, blowing the doors off.
7:21A lot of these teams in the NFC have definitive holes as well as the Cowboys.
7:26And just quickly on their side, dude, I wish we had better context for interceptions because I know and everybody's going to,
7:33like, I'm not telling you that Dak Prescott played well because especially in the first half of this game, he was off.
7:40You could tell he was not settled in the pocket.
7:43He was ripping fastballs. And they were not on target many times.
7:46But the second half, I thought he played really good football.
7:50He gets credited with two freaking interceptions. Both of them get popped up in the air.
7:55And Jake Ferguson apparently has forgotten how to catch a football.
7:58So, I think Dak didn't play amazing. But he didn't play nearly as bad as probably what's going to be talked about
8:05considering the two interceptions, the Cowboys falling flat, yada, yada, yada.
8:08So, let's jump into the Sunday slate here. Excuse me.
8:11The London game this week. There's another one. Eagles at Jaguars.
8:15I want to ask you guys about Will Shipley.
8:17He was one of the biggest prizes on the waiver wire this week.
8:21But his reward to get the starting opportunity is an Eagles offensive line without Lane Johnson and Cam Juergens.
8:27He gets to travel to London to face a very, very strong Jaguars run defense.
8:32And he's in a game where his team is very much the heavy underdog.
8:36So, are you guys willing to start Shipley this week?
8:39Fitz, I actually asked you about this on the Thursday show yesterday.
8:43So, I want to start with Debro on this one.
8:46Debro, what do you think about Shipley this week?
8:49Not unless I am destitute and have no other options.
8:52I don't want to start him. Because I think the way it's gotten painted a lot through the week is like, okay, well, it's ugly.
9:00It's gross. Yes, the offensive line. But he's going to have touches.
9:03And he's going to be their bell cow. The team's talking up Damian Pierce a whole lot.
9:09And I'm afraid that anybody starting Will Shipley might see a lot more Damian Pierce than they choose to see.
9:15And now, could that also be in just like a change of pace role?
9:19It's definitely possible. But it's not like Will Shipley's ever been good in his NFL career, man.
9:24Like 59 NFL carries. And I know we have a small sample.
9:28He's produced 1.8 explosive run rate, 1.63 yards up to contact per attempt, and an 8% missed tackle rate.
9:34So, I'm worried about the volume. I'm worried about the talent of the player himself.
9:38I don't like the matchup. I don't like the offensive line.
9:42I don't like anything. Like, I think this could be like Will Shipley gets 12 touches, gets 30-something, 40-something total yards, and doesn't score.
9:49And you're hating life. He's RB 31 in consensus.
9:52Debra, some of the names behind him. J.K. Dobbins, Keaton Mitchell, Tyler Algier, Woody Marks, Marshawn Lloyd, Blake Corham.
9:58Are you considering those guys ahead of him? I would start Tyler Algier ahead of him.
10:03Because I know Jeremiah Love is not 100% with the ankle and stuff.
10:07And the rest of the guys, you're touchdown hunting.
10:09Okay. I'll give you guys a really good one here.
10:12Brian Robinson Jr. coming off four touchdowns in two weeks.
10:15He's going to sniff probably the same workload, but maybe in a better rushing attack.
10:20B-Rob or Will Shipley, guys? What do you think, Fitz?
10:23Shipley. Okay. So, Fitz, where are you at on Shipley?
10:26Again, RB 31 in consensus. We talked about this a bit with Jake on the show yesterday.
10:31Is he somebody that is a desperation play for you?
10:35Or more of a, hey, I'm okay putting him into my lineup given the expected volume?
10:39No, he's a desperation play. Because if you got him on waivers this week, it was probably out of desperation.
10:46And you probably paid a good bit of money for him.
10:49Yeah, we don't know how much of a role Damien Pierce is going to have.
10:54Could be a bigger role. I think what you're hoping for from Shipley is some production in the passing game.
11:00Because he was a pretty competent pass catcher at Clemson.
11:03And the Jaguars are tough against the run, but they've given up the second most receptions and the second most receiving yards to running backs.
11:10So, if Shipley can get you like four or five catches, you'll take that.
11:15Because, yeah, you probably were desperate. By the way, can I throw in something fun about the Eagles offensive line?
11:21Oh, please do. Which is in such disarray. Yeah, it's probably not going to be a source of fun for the Eagles fans in this game.
11:29But their new look offensive line is going to include a pair of rookies.
11:33Third round pick Markel Bell making a second start in place of Lane Johnson at right tackle.
11:38And undrafted rookie free agent Willie Lampkin is going to be making his first NFL start at left guard in place of Cam Juergens.
11:46Markel Bell is 6'9". Willie Lampkin is 5'11". I know Lampkin is the shortest offensive lineman in the league.
11:52Bell has to be the tallest, right? Yeah, because Daniel Falele with the Ravens was one of the bigger.
11:58But I think he was 6'8". I don't think he was 6'9".
12:01I don't think he got up there. That's enormous.
12:04Are we going to get the Derrick Henry and Mark Ingram meme?
12:08Is somebody going to snap the picture? I need this in my life.
12:12I need this. Please, somebody get this. I mean, the 6'9", Markel Bell.
12:16Yeah, that's interesting. But having a sub-6-foot offensive lineman is pretty crazy.
12:19And yeah, Falele is 6'8", by the way. Yeah, yeah.
12:22And he stood out on the field for how enormous he was next to the offensive lineman.
12:28And yet, this guy's even bigger. That's remarkable. Just quickly, where do you guys actually have Shipley ranked?
12:33I don't think I asked. 31. 33. 33. Injuries are still going to kind of sift out some of this stuff, though.
12:40Because, you know, we'll get to, you know, other games and stuff like that.
12:44But what happens when New England's backfield? What happens with the Green Bay backfield?
12:49If Chris Brooks misses? So, still some things to kind of be decided in rankings.
12:53Yeah. Let's get to the next game here. Bengals at Dolphins.
12:57You know, when I put this sheet together, I phrase this as with Jamar Chase and T.
13:02Higgins likely missing this week's matchup. I guess maybe there's more of a chance than I gave them credit for to be playing earlier in the week.
13:10So, let's sort of answer this as if they're not playing.
13:13Because if they are, like, you're not going to be starting guys like Dante Myers.
13:18But I think it's worth mentioning to them in case these guys end up not playing.
13:23It's Friday morning. We don't know 100% sure yet.
13:26So, with that caveat said, with those guys possibly missing this week's matchup, are you aggressively ranking Bengals like Mike Gasicki and
13:32Dante Myers since they have such a great matchup against Miami Fitz?
13:36It's... Gasicki's going to be tight end 11. Maybe even a little higher.
13:40I might try to get him up to number 10.
13:43Miami's been bad against tight ends. They got worked over by T.J.
13:47Hawkinson last week. They've been pounded by George Kittle.
13:50And then I would have Dante Myers something like wide receiver 34, 35.
13:54Like, I would probably put him just ahead of Dante Vee and Wicks, who have currently got wide receiver 35.
14:00Um, and man, the Dante Myers story is so cool.
14:03Just a quick version. Played college football at Presbyterian College in Delta State.
14:07Wasn't drafted. Wasn't signed as a UDFA. Had a tryout with the Falcons.
14:11Didn't make it. Didn't give up. Kept training and was working nights as a DoorDash driver.
14:16Paid $100 out of his own pocket to try out for the Saskatchewan Rough Riders, who gave him a futures contract, which is like practice squad.
14:24Um, got promoted late in 2024. In 2025, he has over a thousand yards and they win the Gray Cup, the Canadian Football League Championship.
14:31And then someone in the Bengals scouting department noticed him.
14:35They gave him a futures contract. He balled out in training camp and made the team.
14:39And now he's third in the NFL in kickoff return yardage.
14:43And last week he had 77 catches for 82 yards and might end up being Joe Burrow's number one receiver in week five.
14:50Yeah. Is, is Gesicki somewhat fits for you insulated?
14:53Like in terms of you will be ranking him highly regardless of sort of the ultimate game day status of Chase and
14:59Higgins, just because obviously he's playing a different position at tight end.
15:03It's still an amazing matchup against the Dolphins defense.
15:06And you would expect maybe those guys to be a little bit limited.
15:10Um, or cause that you Myers obviously would drop in the rankings if those guys were to play.
15:15Is Gesicki somewhat insulated from that? Not if those guys both play, then I would drop Gesicki probably good four or five spots.
15:22But if one of them is out, then I'm probably still going to have Gesicki ranked as a tight end one.
15:29The thing is like there are other tight ends involved for the Bengals too.
15:33Yep. There might be like people starting Gesicki. Be prepared to be annoyed when you see throws to tight ends that wind
15:40up being Tanner Hudson or, uh, drew sample because that's probably going to happen.
15:44But Gesicki should, I mean, he's kind of been a favorite end zone target of Joe Burrow.
15:50He's got three touchdowns already. Debro the, are they playing tool on fantasypros.com does give Chase a 79% chance and Higgins a 53% chance to play.
15:58Those both feel high to me. I'm still again, leaning towards them not playing.
16:02So we'll see what the practice reports say on Friday.
16:05Apparently Higgins was doing some individual route running drills, uh, on Friday, but, um, at any rate for you, if we're playing
16:12this under the assumption that those guys aren't playing, where are you ranking guys like Gesicki and Myers?
16:17So the way that I'm, I'm approaching this is I think Jamar Chase has the better chance to play if he can
16:24clear concussion protocol, DMP on Wednesday, limited practice on Thursday.
16:27So we'll see what he does on Friday. If he, if, if the news comes out that like what he did, he didn't have recurrence of symptoms.
16:35They're able to ramp him up on Friday. So we're kind of like, you know, biting our fingernails all the way to
16:42basically Saturday because it goes all the way to, to Saturday.
16:45If he wakes up feeling any worse based off of what he does on Friday.
16:50So I think Jamar Chase probably plays, but we'll see, but I give him a coin flip.
16:55I don't think T Higgins plays in this game because it, even with the side work, he's been listed as DMP for both days.
17:03So I think we're going to see maybe chase play, but TB out.
17:07So I'm kind of up in the air about Dante Myers because, um, you know, do we see chase play?
17:13The other part about this is Colby young was out last week and he had a limited practice and a full practice.
17:20So I'm not saying that Dante Myers can't play a big role, but there's a lot of other shifting tectonic plates here
17:26that we still have to see what happens now with Gusecki.
17:30I, I, yeah, I'm with Patty. Like if it's just chase and it's kind of chase Myers and Gusecki right now, projecting it that way.
17:37I have Gusecki at tight end nine. Now, if chase plays and all those other guys play, maybe T plays, then I'm dropping Gusecki a few different spots.
17:46It could probably be a high end tight end two with tight end one upside considering the matchup.
17:52I also just don't know why the Bengals would push either guy back, uh, quickly.
17:56This is a matchup against the worst team in football and they have a buy next week.
18:01It's the most obvious. Just let them rest, get in a win.
18:05Don't, you don't have to look pretty doing it.
18:08Just you can get, you can win this game without Jason and Higgins and then, you know, let them rest on the buy and come back afterwards.
18:16So my counter to that is, have you met Zach Taylor and his injury reporting?
18:21Have you, have, no, no, no, no. I, I, we don't have time in this episode to get you started on injury reporting.
18:28Oh dude, no, don't, don't. I'm going to go off from 30 minute rant.
18:32I know. Let's go to the next game. Raiders at Patriots, a really interesting game.
18:37Given the starts that both of these teams have had this season.
18:40I want to talk about Drake May as we kind of have a lot on this show.
18:46Uh, every time we talk about the Patriots, cause he's the big talking point.
18:50May had almost as many fantasy points in week four as he did across weeks one to three combined.
18:56Is he back or did he just take advantage of a struggling bills?
19:00Defense last week, D bro. I think he's back ish.
19:03Now there was still some kind of concerning stuff in the deeper analytics.
19:07Like last week amongst 32 qualifying quarterbacks, he was 20th and highly accurate throw rate.
19:11I was very encouraged slash impressed. Like what would Josh McDaniels did because entering that week, uh, new England was, they had
19:18the seventh lowest motion rate, fifth lowest play action rate last week.
19:22New England was fourth emotion, ninth and play action.
19:25So the easy button things that we want to see a smart offensive coordinator do to make a quarterback's life easier.
19:31Drake may got those. Now those easy button, uh, pieces aren't going to go as far this week because the Raiders against
19:38motion have allowed the fourth fewest yards per attempt in the second lowest DPA per drop back, but is made back.
19:44I'm S I lean more on the positive than I do on the negative.
19:49Like it's out of 10, I'll give it a six.
19:52Like, because there's still concerning things in his film and in the analytics.
19:56Now, if we get another encouraging performance this week, yes, I'll bump that number up to like a seven, seven and a half fits.
20:03Look, man, Drake may just turn 24 years old.
20:06He's not ready to be Tom Brady yet, but last week against the bills, he was making the kind of throws that so impressed us last season.
20:14And I don't know how Drake may is 20th in a highly accurate throw rate last week because he made a lot of really good throws.
20:22And that came against the bills. And that is Drake may his superpower.
20:26He makes throws that few other quarterbacks can make.
20:29Um, and it doesn't hurt that he runs a bit too.
20:32We had 54 rushing yards against the bills. So there are going to be times when he glitches out.
20:38And he did that a couple of times last week against the bills, but yeah, he's either high under mid range QB
20:45one and everyone should be starting him. And the Drake may panic of a week ago was never justified.
20:51This isn't likely a decision somebody actually has to make, but just to put context into the rankings, would you rather start Drake may or Joe Burrow?
20:59If chase and Higgins are both outfits. If they're both out, I'd start may.
21:03Okay. I think the decision some people might have to make is Drake may versus Jacoby Brissett.
21:08And I've got those government next. Yeah. I've got may one spot higher.
21:12I've got Brissett one spot higher, just leaning into the game and the lions horrible secondary, but I think they're close for context in the rankings.
21:20Bros at QB five Brissett, QB six, may QB seven in the consensus ranking.
21:25So obviously they're all ranked very highly here. Uh, but yeah, I Brissett versus may obviously is a decision.
21:31Can I toss one more that somebody might have?
21:33Um, Drake may or tower shuck. I lean on, I lean to the may side, but that just saying that like they
21:40might have this decision because tower shuck went so late in drafts and stuff.
21:44So not, not close, not close. Yeah. No, I agree.
21:47I agree. Yeah. Before we get to the next game, it's game time.
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22:46Uh, let's go to the next game. Speaking of Tyler Shuck, how about Vikings at saints?
22:50Are you guys starting your saints with confidence or are you fading Tyler Shuck?
22:55Who's QB 13 and consensus and Chris Olave who was wide receiver eight.
22:59I'll double check to see if that's moved at all.
23:02Uh, so ranked pretty highly for both of those guys.
23:05Are you fading them relative to consensus given the tough matchup against the blitzing Vikings defense fits?
23:10Starting Olave with confidence, fading pretty much everyone else.
23:13Um, I've got shock quarterback 16, uh, Valey wide receiver 34, Juwan Johnson tight end 13.
23:18Vikings are giving up a league low 11.5 fantasy points per game to quarterbacks.
23:22I've given up the sixth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers, 12th fewest, uh, sorry, six fewest to tight ends, 12th fewest to wide receivers.
23:30So it's just, it's a tough matchup. They're going to get after shock.
23:34I think worm, we might've, um, I might've brought this up on the, the start sit show with you and Jake the
23:41other day, but someone, and I can't remember who it was on Twitter was talking about that Monday night game with shock
23:47and how the Monday night game kind of showed the country, how the sausage is made with that passing game.
23:53Like then basically the point being that shocks fantasy numbers are a little better than it looks in real life sometimes.
24:00And I don't think it's going to look all that pretty against the Vikings and what Brian Flores is going to be dialing up for him.
24:08Yeah. It's, it's funny Debro. Cause like, we know that Brian Flores is a great defensive coordinator.
24:13We know that this is a very good defense.
24:16Having said that their last three games, which is 75% of the season so far came against Chicago in horrific weather conditions,
24:23Tampa Bay with a broken Baker Mayfield and a Miami offense that has been non-functional.
24:27Didn't have Devon Achan. So, and even the green Bay game, you know, that's a really poor offensive line, not really suited
24:34to, you know, go up against a team that blitzes the way this Vikings defense does.
24:39So, you know, is there any elements to their strong start to statistically that is driven by the schedule or are you
24:46just like, Hey, this is a very, very good defense regardless and a matchup to be feared.
24:51If you're starting these saints players. I think the matchup is going to be extremely tough considering the constitution of the saints
24:58offensive line right now, like no banks. He's going to get pressured.
25:01The reason that I still think Tyler Shuck is startable and I'm not saying don't worry about him, but like low end
25:08QB one high and QB two territory. A lot of like hairs to be split between, you know, a lot of different
25:15players like him, Jordan love CJ Stroud, all those kinds of guys is that the volume is going to be there because
25:22we know the saints cannot run the ball. So the passing volume will be there.
25:26Maybe we get garbage time stuff. Like the encouraging thing about Tyler shock is we know that yes, Brian Flores is going
25:33to blitz the ever loving heck out of him.
25:36He's blitzed on 72% of the defensive snaps this year.
25:39Shuck versus the blitz. He's 14th in yards per attempt, eighth and passing success rate to Fitz's point.
25:44Like it doesn't look pretty all the time. Now I will say that like as much pressure and as many passing attempts
25:51as he's being asked to navigate all of that.
25:54I think he looks good and competent considering all of that.
25:57Now is it pretty sometimes? No, but with the volume, I think Shuck can get there as a QB one this week.
26:04Um, if that happens and to your point, worm, there is something like with the quality of opponents, Minnesota has played.
26:11There's also another Kyler Murray type of conversation that we, we were not going to have here, but Kyler Murray has played God awful.
26:18So how much is Minnesota going to move the ball?
26:21And I know the saints defense is terrible, but, uh, so Tyler shock, I think volume can carry the day.
26:27Alave I'm starting with confidence. I have no worries about him.
26:31I mean, he is shredded zone coverage. I think he's going to still get open.
26:35I know the matchup isn't great, but Minnesota 84% zone.
26:38Alave versus zone this year, 31% target per route run rate, 3.43 yards per route run.
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28:37Learn more at staples.com. Alave's wide receiver is 7 in consensus.
28:40So he actually moved up from when I put together this year.
28:44And that's actually with CeeDee Lamb locked in ahead of him in the rankings.
28:48So really, he's 6 amongst the receivers who haven't played yet.
28:52So the consensus rankings are still very high in Alave, which I think is fair.
28:56I just wanted to ask given the matchup, but I think it's totally- But to Fitz's point, I am worried more about Vele and Juwan Johnson.
29:04Like, I've got Juwan Johnson at tight in 13 with Fitzy and Vele.
29:08It just kind of depends on, like, who's healthy on your roster?
29:12And do you have to start him anyway? Let's go to Browns at Jets.
29:16Let's talk about a couple of running backs in this one.
29:20Who is the better game in this matchup? Quinshawn Judkins or Braylon Allen?
29:24They are back-to-back in ECR. Braylon Allen is RB 16.
29:27Quinshawn Judkins is RB 17. Fitz, who do you prefer?
29:30I slightly prefer Judkins. Judkins is catching passes now, which is kind of a welcome new wrinkle to his game.
29:36He already has 15 receptions. Last year, he had 26 receptions in 14 games.
29:40And the Browns have given up the seventh-fewest fantasy points to running backs.
29:44The Jets, the seventh most. So better matchup for Judkins.
29:47Both guys should get a lot of touches. Both guys do profile as high-end to mid-range running back twos.
29:53I just like Judkins a little more. Debra? Yeah, I'm with Fitzy.
29:57The receiving stuff for Judkins is what pushes him over for me.
30:01He did have a 16.7% target share in week two.
30:04Or, excuse me, since week two. But I think the pass game stuff for Judkins is what pushes over.
30:10This is a great matchup for both these running backs.
30:13But if you're telling me one of these guys is going to catch more passes, neither one of them are coming off the field.
30:20Because, I mean, Braylon Allen had a 94% snap rate last week.
30:24I actually think both these guys are in fantastic positions because both these are bad run defenses.
30:29But I will lean to Judkins just because of the checkdowns from Deshaun Watson.
30:33Do you have them in that range of RB16, RB17?
30:36I've got them. Judkins is RB17. Braylon Allen is RB18.
30:39So, snugged up right together. I feel like after them is where the cliff is.
30:44Like, after those two running backs is where we get into split backfields, grossness.
30:48Like, where you're like, ah! The next names in ECR are Emmanuel Wilson, Cam Scadaboo, Bucky Irving, who, of course, already played and was great.
30:56Ramadre Stevenson, David Montgomery, Chakor Kraske, Merritt. These are the names that come up immediately after those two in ECR.
31:02That's some serious disrespect to Emmanuel Wilson. I'm just going to throw that out there.
31:07I think he should be ranked higher. I've got Emmanuel Wilson higher than both these running backs this week.
31:13Do you agree with that, Fitz? No, I've got Wilson ranked below both of these guys.
31:18Wilson, the Seahawks basically took the lead six minutes into the game against the Chargers last week and never trailed after that.
31:24They had a really positive run script. I don't know if that happens as much against the 49ers this week.
31:30Like, it's going to be a different type of game for them.
31:34By the way, just in this game, I think it's interesting.
31:37Jets minus two and a half is the consensus on bettingpros.com.
31:41Who do you guys like on the side? I've already bet the Browns.
31:45I think the Browns win. Yeah, I would take the Browns money line easily.
31:49Another week of the Browns in first place, you're expecting.
31:52That's shocking. As a Ravens fan, I'm sure you're very happy about this.
31:56The big, big match of Ravens versus Browns next week in week six.
32:00That'll be exciting. Bum, bum, bum. Next game, Colts at Steelers.
32:04I didn't really have a good, compelling angle on this game, so I just want to kind of leave this pretty open.
32:10I want you guys to pick one player from this game who is too high in the week five expert consensus rankings
32:17and one player who is too low. Debra, I'll start with you.
32:21So, Worm, I need you to tell me where is Josh Downs in ECR this week because I'm just out on Daniel Jones.
32:28I'm over it. Wide receiver 23. Yeah, I'm not there.
32:31And this is not a Josh Downs thing. This is a Daniel Jones can't move.
32:36He can't throw the ball. He looks like 2025 Kirk Cousins.
32:39He looks god awful. Like in a pushover matchup last week, he looked like a mannequin, and the commanders were like, okay,
32:46we'll just push over the plastic figure here. So, Josh Downs, I've got to push him lower than ECR this week.
32:52Also, like you're looking at Pittsburgh. They haven't done a lot of things amazing, but versus slot receivers, they have been strong.
32:5914th fewest yards per target, 7th fewest fantasy points per opportunity.
33:02So, I think Josh Downs should go down in ECR, and I love Roman Wilson this week.
33:08No Michael Pittman Jr. Roman Wilson has been wide receiver 24 and wide receiver 18 in weekly scoring over the last two weeks.
33:15He's had almost an 18% target share. He's been phenomenal on a per-route basis, 3.83 yards per-route run.
33:20And we talked about this earlier in the week, but Aaron Rodgers has morphed into Jameis Rodgers.
33:25He has been going full YOLO over the last two weeks.
33:29Aaron Rodgers has just been like, I don't care.
33:31He's down there somewhere. He's top five in deep ball rate.
33:35The catchable target rate's low. But if he's chucking up, we're going to get some big plays.
33:40And, oh, by the way, Roman Wilson's going against a secondary that's given up the second-most yards per target and the eighth-most
33:47fantasy points per opportunity to opposing slot receivers. Love Roman Wilson.
33:50Yeah, if neither of you picked Roman Wilson for this, I was going to bring him up.
33:55And it's not that I'm, like, he's been a top 24 receiver two weeks in a row.
34:01I'm not saying he should be ranked inside the top 24.
34:04He's had exactly six targets in every game this season, just three receptions in each of the last two weeks.
34:10So it's not like he's completely blown things out of the water.
34:14But he's ranked his wide receiver 49. To me, that is just too low, especially knowing that Michael Pittman is going to
34:21be out against this defense the way Rodgers has been throwing it.
34:24But Fitz, where are you at on these players?
34:27The only colt I think I'm above consensus on is Josh Downs in just by, like, one spot.
34:33And Debrow has a good point about the Steelers being better against slot receivers than outside receivers.
34:38And I just—last week, Downs had three catches for 16 yards on four targets against the Commanders.
34:43A down week for sure. But in weeks two and three, he had 20 targets.
34:48And without Alec Pierce, I think Josh Downs is usually going to be a pretty big part of the Colts passing game.
34:54He just wasn't last week for whatever reason. And then someone maybe I'm lower on than consensus.
35:00DK Metcalf. I've got him at wide receiver 21, which puts me something like four spots below consensus.
35:05It just seems like rankers don't quite know how to handle Metcalf.
35:09So these—there tends to be a lot of recency bias in DK Metcalf's weekly rankings.
35:14Like, Metcalf has a bad game. He's a wide receiver three the next week.
35:18He has a good game, like he did last week against the Browns when he went over 100 yards.
35:24Suddenly his ECR is in the top 20 at wide receiver.
35:27So Colts, they've been much better against outside receivers than slot guys.
35:31So this isn't necessarily a great matchup for DK.
35:33But against the Browns last week, the Steelers sometimes moved Metcalf into the slot to get him out of Denzel Ward's coverage.
35:40And he did some damage against some of the other cornerbacks from the slot.
35:45Maybe they do the same thing this week and get Metcalf out of Sauce Gardner's coverage.
35:49Do you agree, Fitz, with DeRomey that Roman Wilson is too low?
35:53Because, I mean, there's a gap of, what, 32 spots between them in the wide receiver rankings if Metcalf's at 17 and Roman Wilson's at wide receiver 49?
36:02I would have said no until Pittman was scratched.
36:05Because last week against the Browns, Roman Wilson only played like 22 out of 71 offensive snaps.
36:10He just wasn't getting enough snaps. Still had a decent number of targets.
36:14Like he was involved when he was playing, but he was just not getting enough snaps to make him be a real bankable guy for fantasy.
36:22But now with no Pittman, he's going to play a lot more snaps.
36:26So I think he's in the flex conversation this week.
36:29Yeah, Pittman being out is a big part of that for me, for sure.
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37:13Next game, guys, Texans at Titans. A couple of winless teams here.
37:17Carnell Tate is coming off his best game. Looks like he might be breaking out early in his rookie season.
37:23What are your expectations for Tate against a Texans defense we expected to be elite but has looked pretty poor through the season's first month?
37:31Debron, I'm throwing to you. Also, I will mention Carnell Tate off the injury report.
37:35He was on there earlier this week. There was a tweet a couple of minutes ago that he is off it for this week.
37:43So just to note that on Carnell Tate. Where are you at on him this week?
37:47I mean, I feel good about Carnell Tate. Really, my Carnell Tate worries go back to it's a Cam Ward conversation.
37:54What can Cam Ward do versus pressure? Can he get him catchable targets?
37:58Because Carnell Tate's been getting this role and he's been getting the target share all freaking season.
38:03And he's been getting open. It's been a Cam Ward problem.
38:07And it's going to continue to be a Cam Ward problem because Cam Ward's still struggling.
38:11So, like, I feel good about Carnell Tate. I worry about Cam Ward.
38:15But Carnell Tate, to the point, like, dude, he's getting the Malik Neighbors role that we thought he was going to get.
38:22Like, among 79 qualifying receivers, Carnell Tate. Seventh in target share with 26.9%.
38:26He's top 20 in yards per route run. He's third in air yard share with 50.1%.
38:31He's top 20 in first downs per route run.
38:34He's sixth in first reach here at 36%. He's getting a crap ton of volume.
38:38It just comes down to, can Cam Ward give him any catchable targets?
38:42And if he does, then Carnell Tate will have a really good game.
38:46So, right now, like, I've got Carnell Tate at wide receiver 22.
38:50Now, could that crash and burn if Cam Ward crashes and burns?
38:54Absolutely. But could Carnell Tate pay off on that because of the volume that he's seeing and the fact that the Houston
39:01Texans versus perimeter wide receivers have been quite bad?
39:03Third most yards per target, fourth most fantasy points per opportunity.
39:07A wide range of outcomes for Carnell Tate. But I lean slightly on the positive side.
39:12Slightly. He's wide receiver 22 in consensus. So, you're exactly aligned with ECR here.
39:16It's kind of similar to running back again. I mean, we talked about it at the top of the show with bye weeks and injuries.
39:24It gets very quick. It gets ugly real quick.
39:26I mean, after Tate, I'm not saying that you wouldn't want to start any of these guys, but just there's not a
39:33ton of degree of confidence in some of these names who are ranked behind him.
39:38So, even if you feel like, oh, man, paired with Cam Ward going up against the Texans is like a tough situation
39:45for a guy like Tate in his fourth career game.
39:48Josh Downs, Romeo Dobbs, Stephon Diggs, Debo Samuel, Malik Washington, Denzel Bassa.
39:51Those are names that I'm interested in starting to varying degrees.
39:55But there's not a lot of like, oh, no doubt about it.
39:58These guys are stars who clearly should be way higher than him.
40:02So, I totally get the ranking. Fitz, where are you at on Carnell Tate?
40:06Wide receiver 22, like I said, in consensus. Debro basically gave my whole Carnell Tate spiel word for word.
40:12And then he had Carnell Tate rank six spots higher than I do.
40:16Oh! So, that was the crazy thing. I don't know what to do with him, Fitzy.
40:21Like, I feel like this whole low end wide receiver two, wide receiver three quadrant is an absolute quagmire this week.
40:28It's like you're parsing. And to Worm's point, I don't think Stephon Diggs plays.
40:32Like, I don't think the commanders, their only healthy wide receiver might be Antonio Williams.
40:36If he's the only man left standing, am I ranking him higher versus the Giants this week than Carnell Tate?
40:43Maybe. I don't know, man. It's a wild week.
40:45Yeah, I mean, the usage numbers with Tate have been great.
40:49But his usage was good the first three weeks.
40:52And the surface stats were still pretty bad. Like, he more than doubled his receiving yardage from the first three weeks with his big game last week.
41:00And I like Carnell Tate. And it was good to see him pop last week.
41:04But I, like you, Debro, I still have trust issues with Cam Ward and the Titans passing game.
41:10And there's that expression about the genie being out of the bottle and you can't put it back in.
41:16And with the Titans passing game, you can probably stick that genie right back in the bottle.
41:21Yeah. And even though the Texans have given up more fantasy points to wide receivers than any other defense, I still struggle
41:28to see the Texans as being a good matchup for the Titans passing game.
41:32Yeah. I mean, not when you've got Will Anderson and Daniil Hunter able to come in and terrorize Cam Ward off the edge.
41:39Like, I don't feel super confident about Carnell Tate this week.
41:43So the only thing that I was going to add to that, and I'm double checking this right now, Will Anderson popped up with a DMP on Wednesday.
41:51He got a limited practice in on Thursday. But if he doesn't play in this game, that's a plus, obviously, for Cam Ward.
41:58Sure. Real quickly, before we move off of this, guys, do you think the Tennessee Titans are in the quarterback market in the draft next year?
42:06Because everything we've seen for Cam Ward, I fully believe that.
42:10How could they not be? I fully believe that.
42:12If Cam Ward looks the same way in December as he does right now, and they have a top five pick in
42:19a class with all these great options that we expect to have there, if they're sitting there on the clock and Arch
42:26or Dante Moore or like who, I mean, again, there's a million quarterbacks, but whoever your quarterback of choice is, is available,
42:33I think it would be a dereliction of duty by the front office to say, hey, just because we drafted Cam Ward
42:39two years ago, we have to give him a third year when he just hasn't looked like he's got it.
42:46And maybe some of that isn't his fault, right?
42:48Maybe Brian Daval is doing him no favors, the offensive environment doing him no favors.
42:53But man, I'm always going to give a guy a second year.
42:57You got to show me something to get a third year, especially if you have this natural path to getting another quarterback in there.
43:04If they were picking like 20th, different story. You're going to be picking top five in a class with great quarterbacks.
43:10I think you have to consider it. And if you're picking top five or top three, it's probably because Cam Ward has
43:17played poorly over the balance of the season. So I just, I hate what we've, I hope he turns it around, man.
43:24But it's, it's, he just looks like he's struggling on multiple, like so many different levels, like reading coverages, his mechanics, his
43:31pocket prep, like everything is just bad. I actually think this is good news for the Titans because he's making it obvious that he's not taking that step.
43:39Like if he was, if he took like a half step forward and it was like, well, maybe you can argue he's ascending.
43:46And now, uh, if he was on the Bryce Young trajectory, basically what you're laying out.
43:51Well, I'm saying like the fact, yeah, if, if, I mean, I would rather you draft a Josh Rosen than like, I
43:58don't know a Bryce Young where who's looking good this year, but like we're in year four and it's still like, is
44:05he the guy we should get the big contract to?
44:08Well, now we know. And I'm not saying that Josh Rosen is better than Bryce Young, obviously, but like I'd rather just
44:15know that he's not going to be a star and we can move on.
44:19Now he can change my mind about that this season.
44:22It's still, you know, it's only been four weeks.
44:25I'm not saying he's done, but I'm saying if he looks in December, the way he looks in September of this year,
44:32then yeah, I think you've seen enough to say, Hey, it's kind of making this decision easy for us where the decision
44:38is not easy is where it gets really tricky for franchises and they sometimes hamstring themselves.
44:43Yep. Agreed. Let's go to the next game here.
44:46Giants at commanders. How are you guys ranking key players on the commanders with Jaden Daniels returning in this game fits?
44:52Oh man. Um, well with all the pass catchers and the ambiguity about the status of Terry McLaurin and Stefan Diggs, I guess it's really hard.
45:00We have to wait and see on those guys.
45:03And if those guys are both out, I might be willing to play Antonio Williams.
45:08I still don't think I'd play Chico Conquo. Um, I've got Daniels himself, Frank QB 11.
45:13And I've got Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt, RB 23. I think I'm pretty well above consensus on him after his bad game last
45:19week, but there's such a big difference in the offensive environment when you have Jane Daniels at quarterback versus Ethan Kaliak Manis.
45:26Um, so yeah, like the volume has been pretty good for Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt.
45:31And I kind of want to lean into that, especially with all these pass catchers injured.
45:35Krosky Merritt is at RB 23. Any consensus? I'm on consensus then.
45:39I thought I was above. Debra. Uh, so how I'm projecting this currently, I don't think Stefan Diggs and Terry McCormick play.
45:46Neither one of them have practiced dealing with hamstring issues.
45:49So I think we're going to get the Antonio Williams week.
45:52Um, and if that is the case, I mean, dude, Antonio Williams, considering by weeks and all of these injuries, I could
45:59start making the case for Antonio Williams at high end wide receiver three, anywhere from high end wide receiver three to low
46:06end wide receiver two, considering there is nobody else to catch passes.
46:10That's a really sizable jump. He's wide receiver 50 right now.
46:13Consensus. I mean, there's nobody else though. Who else is going to threaten him for a target share this week?
46:19He will be the unquestioned wide receiver one. Like who's coming out of the woodwork to do that?
46:25I don't see anybody like Chig. No. Boutful. Traylon Burks has been sneaky.
46:29Uh, I don't want to say sneaky good, but like sneaky.
46:32We'll just say sneaky. I mean, like I, I get it.
46:35It's just hard for me to say like, Oh, this is a rookie who's in his fifth career game.
46:41And his last three weeks, he's had what a combined 60 yards, no touchdown.
46:46Like he had one call back. Let's give the man respect.
46:49I will call back by penalty. And also last week he was second on the team and first reach here with 24% and a 19% target share.
46:57So deep rentalics are good on him. Um, but to Fitz's point with bill, it's like, I've got him as a low end RB too.
47:05I've got him at RB 24 right now, but that's more of a state of just the position than I think any kind of belief in bill.
47:13And my, my worries about bill or more of this offensive line is horrible.
47:17Like bill doesn't even have a yard before contact per attempt.
47:21He's getting hit at or behind the lane of scrimmage on over 50% of his rushing attempts.
47:26So like he has no room to run. Maybe that changes a little bit versus the giants, but I think we already
47:33kind of played that game too, when they played the Colts and their bad run defense.
47:38And then he still didn't have any room to run.
47:41So volume, I guess rules the day, but I mean, bill could be anywhere from a low end RB two to a high end RB three.
47:49It really just comes down to, does he get a touchdown or not this week?
47:53So Debra, where are you ranking Jane Daniels? If you're expecting him to be missing his top two targets in his return,
48:00it's QB 10 and ECR right now. I've got him at QB 11.
48:04But you know, again, when we get the clarity on the injuries, do I drop him a few more spots?
48:10Do I move somebody like Jordan love above him?
48:13Maybe because I, the thing about Jane Daniels is how much is he going to run when he's got a brace on
48:20his other arm and he cannot brace himself when he goes to fall or even when he slides.
48:25And I don't know, what does his ball security look like when he has to like, can he hold the ball and grip it tightly on the army?
48:34And he has the brace. So does he actually run at all this, this week or very sparingly?
48:40Yeah, no, I, I totally agree. Fitz, where are you ranking Daniels quickly?
48:44QB 11, 11. Okay. So you guys are both just one spot behind ECR right now.
48:48Uh, next game here in the Sunday early slate bears at Packers.
48:52Speaking of bears, RIP to Mike Dick who passed away this morning, obviously just one of the all time legends of the NFL history.
48:59uh, yeah, lots of, uh, lots of folks, you know, share memories about him earlier today.
49:04So I just wanted to at least mention that, but yeah, bears, you know, Packers week too, just like, you know, very,
49:11very, it's never happy, but sad timing for sure.
49:14Bears at Packers though, uh, fits Christian Watson and Matthew golden are ranked just four spots apart in the week five wide receiver consensus rankings.
49:22Who is better suited to a big game against the bears defense?
49:25If this matchup had happened a few weeks ago, I might've tried to look and see who was more likely to line up on Jalen Johnson's side.
49:34Most of the day. And who was more likely to line up against Tyreek Stevenson and pick whoever was going up against
49:40Stevenson, but Jalen Johnson has not been good. Like he doesn't appear to be the same guy he used to be.
49:47Um, I know the bears play a lot of single high safety and Christian Watson is better against too high than single
49:54high, but Watson isn't bad against single high. Um, basically I'm, I'm not really factoring coverage into how I'm ranking these guys.
50:00I've Watson ranks slightly higher. I still think he's the better player, but I want to see what Debra has to say.
50:07I'm with Watson on this one. And to your point, Fitzy, like Watson's been better versus single high.
50:13And so the splits are very interesting. So like Watson, so by the way, Chicago runs single high on 63% of their
50:19defensive snaps, Watson versus single high, 25% target per route run rate, which is equal to Matthew golden, but their yards per route run are quite different.
50:28And Watson 1.98. Now to your point, Fitzy Watson versus too high as elite, like he's over three yards per route run,
50:34but golden is only at 1.27 yards per route run versus single high.
50:38And this has been a thing. So golden, whenever he had like the moments last year, he was green base, too high guy in the splits last year.
50:47We're also held up where he was much better versus too high than single high.
50:52So I lean on the Watson side, but this is, if you got either one of them, you're starting them this week.
50:58Do you, do you agree with both of them being inside the top 16?
51:03Yes. Because that's where they are consensus. Packers can't run the ball.
51:06The bears past defense has been improved, but I'm not scared of their outside corners.
51:11Like Fitzy's talking about like Jalen Johnson and Tyrick Stevenson.
51:14They'll put any amount of fear in me. The bears defense is coming in as well rested as you can be not
51:21coming off a buy considering the 32 snaps they played just last week.
51:25I'd been, but, but yeah, if it's, you have these guys both inside the top 16 as well.
51:30I have golden 17. Okay. I guess, but still a mid wide receiver to there.
51:35So yeah, very excited. But where's, where's Watson for both of you guys?
51:39He's, he's watching over 12 and consensus. Oh no, no, no.
51:42Sorry. 13. I'm one, one off consensus. I've got him at 11, but same area code.
51:47I've got Watson at 11. I've got golden at 16.
51:50Okay. Yeah. So four to five spots apart for both of you.
51:54Same with consensus. Uh, fits are the Packers going to pull out a win in this one.
51:59I don't know, man is the spread. I actually, I took the bears on the money line last week when they opened
52:06as an underdog, because I thought that was messed up as, as do betters everywhere.
52:11Cause they bet it over to the bears being a two and a half point favorite.
52:16So, um, I don't know. I, I feel like it's going to be a close game.
52:20I think it's going to be a close game.
52:23Packers are probably going to lead and blow it again.
52:26That seems to be their MO against the bears.
52:29If you believe in any sort of like, you know, karma of this being the week that, you know, we lose Mike
52:36Dick, then maybe, uh, you would want to lean towards the bears as well as some sort of spiritual, uh, you know, victory there too.
52:44I think the bears win, but I do, I'm agreeing with it.
52:47See, like, I think it's a close game. Yeah.
52:50Yeah. I mean, the line suggests it's a close game.
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53:22Let's get into the late slate here, guys. Broncos at chargers.
53:25It took me a while to come up with a question for this one because boys, this just an unfun game.
53:31Just two teams that have very much disappointed to offenses that are very much disappointed.
53:36Uh, uh, just really not like sitting here super excited, looking forward to this one.
53:41Um, I did put this together before Sean Payton.
53:43It was kind of announced that he was going to be taking back over play calling duties as many of us expected was going to happen eventually.
53:52So I didn't take that angle with this. I really just asked about the running backs here, which are RB from this game.
53:59Do you guys rank higher for this week? Oh, Marion Hampton or RJ Harvey, you know, and you can take into consideration of course that shot.
54:07Payton is now calling those plays again. D bro.
54:10I'm going with Hampton in this one. Um, McDaniel, but please, this, this is, let me talk to you for a second here.
54:17Please, please give the ball to a Marion Hampton.
54:19Please stop doing idiotic things. Please stop running out.
54:22Keaton Mitchell. Please stop playing. Come on with it.
54:25L please stop this three headed running back nonsense.
54:28Please. I, I, I, I, I'm begging you because the Murray and Hampton on a per touch basis has not been bad guys.
54:35Like 46 qualifying running backs. He's 18th in explosive run rate.
54:38He's eighth best in yards of contact per attempt.
54:41This feels like a game where if the chargers want any semblance of hope to beat the Broncos, you lean on Hampton
54:48and you run the freaking ball because the Broncos run defense is God awful.
54:52They're giving up the fifth highest explosive rate, explosive run rate, and the highest missed tackle rate.
54:57Give the ball to Hampton. Please. Please. Mike McDaniel heard your request and he responded with the pond stars meme of the
55:04guy going best I can do is eight carries in one target.
55:08I wouldn't get your hope. That's going to be a tweet from the fantasy pros account, by the way, that did that
55:14definitely needs to be a thing, by the way.
55:17Oh, I'm sorry. Where, where'd you say you actually have these guys ranked, D bro?
55:22Oh, I've got Hampton right now at RB 20 because there's so many injured running backs right now.
55:27He could be anywhere from a low end RB two to a high end RB three.
55:32I do have him over RJ Harvey and I will have him over RJ Harvey just because of how I'm projecting this
55:39game and what I'm hoping the chargers do. Now, does that mean that they're going to do it?
55:44No, doesn't mean they're going to do it at all because last week I ran Hampton dealt with like a three headed community.
55:52He was third amongst the three backs in that backfield in snap share.
55:56So there's volatility here. So maybe I'm just wish casting guys.
55:59Hampton is RB 24 and consensus fits RJ Harvey is RB 27.
56:03How do you see it? I've got Harvey RB 25 and Hampton RB 31.
56:07I've no interest in playing Omerian Hampton. Last week it was 26 snaps for Keaton Mitchell, 25 for Hampton, 25 for Kamani
56:14Vidal three-way committee running behind a terrible offensive line.
56:16That's once again, really bad in the middle. And now the tackles are both hurt again.
56:21Rashawn Slater is going to be out with a high ankle sprain.
56:25And I don't know if Joe all has a chance to play, but he hurt his neck last week.
56:31The offense is just kind of broken for the chargers.
56:34And I know the Broncos statistically have missed a lot of tackles, but didn't most of those come against the chiefs and Kenneth Walker in week one.
56:42Like, I don't know if that's been a necessarily a run defense.
56:46I want to pick on at least not since that first week.
56:50Like Harvey has 20 catches in three games and he had 10 last week.
56:54Now 10 is an anomaly, but he's at at least four catches in every game.
56:59His pass catching is more bankable than Omerian Hampton's touchdown scoring.
57:02And Hampton's three TDs are the only reason he's RB 22 and fantasy scoring.
57:06Like he has been touchdown dependent. He's totally uninvolved as a pass catcher, which is really kind of a drag because he
57:13was a good pass catcher last year. Mike McDaniel, not involving him at all in the passing game.
57:19So yeah, I'll just, I'll take Harvey. We know Sean Payton running backs catch a lot of passes and Harvey has caught a lot of passes.
57:27I don't want to waste any more time on that game.
57:30Let's go to the next one. Lions at Cardinals.
57:33We've seen enough this season to know that the Lions defense is very much worth picking on in fantasy.
57:38So even though he's been one of the biggest disappointments in the league this season and across recent seasons, are you at
57:45all open to the possibility, D bro, of starting Marvin Harrison Jr.
57:49this week? No, no, I'm not doing it. He is a 7% target share.
57:53His yards per route run is not even eclipsing one.
57:56No, I'm more likely to start Isaac Tesla this week than I am Marvin Harrison Jr.
58:01No, Marvin Harrison Jr. caught a touchdown last week and still was wide receiver.
58:06But he still was wide receiver 53 on the week.
58:09Yeah, which is, I don't know. That's all he did.
58:12I saw. I can't, I know it's the only catch he had, of course, but I just can't remember the last time
58:18I saw a player with a touchdown in the game outside the top 50 amongst receivers.
58:23Ryan Thomas Jr. Probably says hi versus the Bengals.
58:26Yeah, probably. I should look that one up. Same, same stat line, basically.
58:30Yeah. Fitz, Fitz, are you at all? Open to, I mean, Marvin Harrison, he's wide receiver 42.
58:35I should say consensus. Oh, I'm starting him in a league where you have to start a lot of flexes.
58:41I am starting him in one league and it, there are some injuries and I might have like a buy or two in that league.
58:49It's kind of out of necessity more than wanting to.
58:52But, you know, on one hand, you've got this lion's pass defense.
58:56That's been awful. Giving up 327 passing yards a game.
58:59But on the other hand, yeah, Debro mentioned that the 7.2% target share, 0.62 yards per route run is the number, which is so bad.
59:07Jacoby Brissett's passer rating on throws to Marvin Harrison this season is 55.0.
59:11Just to put that number into perspective, JJ McCarthy's passer rating last season was 72.6.
59:15Wow. 17.6 points higher than the Jacoby Brissett passer rating on throws to Marvin Harrison Jr.
59:20So it's been really bad. And if Marvin Harrison Jr.
59:23bricks against the lions, you'll know that all hope is lost.
59:27Yep. It's already gone. I'm starting him in two leagues.
59:30One, just absolutely hammered by injuries at the position and, and by weeks this week to the other league is a 16 team league.
59:37Those are the two scenarios that I am starting Marvin Harrison Jr.
59:41this week fits Marvin Harrison Jr. or Roman Wilson.
59:44Oh, because I know, I know Debro's answer, but I'm curious.
59:47It'll, it'll be Roman Wilson for me. Okay. Yeah.
59:50I think that's correct. I just want to double check.
59:53Uh, all right. That's sad. Uh, let's go to the last game in the late afternoon slate here.
59:5849ers at Seahawks. The 49ers offense has looked absolutely terrific this season, but they have historically struggled pretty consistently against Mike McDonald defenses.
60:05That dates back to when McDonald was the Baltimore defensive coordinator.
60:09It's also carried over to his time in Seattle, of course.
60:12So I'm asking you this, who wins the battle between the San Francisco offense and the Seattle defense this week fits the Seattle defense.
60:20Um, Seahawks past defense continues to be amazing. Their opponent passer rating this season, 67.6, also lower than JJ McCarthy's passer rating
60:26from last season, but higher than Jacoby Brissett's passer rating on throws to Marvin Harrison Jr.
60:31Um, Seahawks are only giving up 3.6 yards per rush attempt.
60:35Seahawks have the NFL's best defense. Um, and fullback Kyle use check out for the 49ers with a knee injury.
60:41He's kind of an unsung hero of the 49ers offense.
60:44Just a big part of so many of the things Kyle Shanahan wants to do.
60:48So I don't think the 49ers offense is going to click the way it has against this defense.
60:54The first time McDonald faced the Niners offense with Seattle, he allowed, I think it was like 36 points in that first time they faced him in 2024.
61:03Every other matchup since then, it's been 17 points, 17 points, three points, and six points.
61:07He has really shut them down. D row. Do you expect that to happen again this week?
61:13Yeah, I think this is going to be a low scoring game.
61:16I think it's going to be gross. Uh, the only thing where I think the 49ers have a little bit different composition of weapons.
61:24And I know that he's not a hundred percent, but the man is, he's an iron man.
61:29And in, when he's been on the field, even last week, he was freaking awesome as Mike Evans.
61:34Like Mike Evans is going to have to be a difference maker in this game.
61:39And his, his numbers versus two high coverage, uh, which Seattle runs at almost 60% of the defensive snaps have still been awesome this year.
61:4733% target per route run rate, 3.1 yards per route run.
61:50So for the 49ers to show anything different than what we have seen previously versus Seattle, Mike Evans is going to have to play up big here.
61:58And I just, I don't know if he's healthy enough to do that, but I'm also not going to discount it because
62:05that man is a, he's a gladiator. He's awesome.
62:08So I, I, I lean on the side of the Seattle defense, but I do think this game is going to be gross.
62:15And I still think the 49ers have a chance to win it.
62:19So what do you like on, on the, against the spread?
62:22Cause it's, uh, right now. It's laying a field goal for Seattle at home.
62:26I don't think, I think this should, if this wasn't in Seattle, it'd be closer to a pick them.
62:32I think, I don't think Seattle covers. I think it's going to be whoever has the ball last.
62:38So if it, if it had gotten as high as three and a half, I would like the Niners.
62:44I think even just sitting at three, I like, I like Seattle again, just historically what McDonald's done to Shanahan offenses.
62:50What do you think fits about that spread? Seattle.
62:53and, uh, Seattle's just Niners fans won't want to hear this, but Seattle has had their number in this series over the
63:00last couple of decades, last 45 games between these two teams, Seattle 30 and 15 against the Niners.
63:05Yeah. Really fun game. Honestly, what's the game of the week?
63:09Is it 49ers Seahawks or is it Rams, uh, bills?
63:12It's Rams, bills, bills, I mean, Rams, bills is the more fun one, but this is obviously you get the divisional matchup here.
63:19It's teams with a lot of history. Rams bills, because you're like, everybody's like, okay, is this a Superbowl preview?
63:25Now Ramsville. Yeah. I, I see what you're doing worm.
63:28I'll still say it. I think divisionally makes it a, yeah.
63:31If you watch a rock fight, that's like 13 to six.
63:35Now both fantastic games. That's real football though. Uh, all right.
63:38Sunday night football Ravens at the Falcons. Obviously this would have been, I think a very fun matchup as well.
63:44If Lamar was healthy, he of course is not, not practicing on Friday either.
63:48historically when Lamar doesn't practice at all during the week, he does not play.
63:53Uh, Jesse Minter did say that like he's capable of playing without practicing.
63:57I don't think he's going to play this, this Sunday, even though the Ravens haven't yet ruled them out as of the time of this recording.
64:05So if we're assuming that Lamar doesn't play, how far are you knocking down Zay flowers in your rankings?
64:11Uh, we talked about this a bit on the Thursday show fits.
64:14So, um, I'll, I'll start with Debro again here.
64:17Uh, Debro, Zay Flowers is ranked where for you under the assumption Lamar does not play.
64:22He's wide receiver nine right now, and he's still going to be a wide receiver one.
64:27Cause he's fricking amazing. And I think Tyler Huntley can be good enough versus this Falcons defense.
64:32I just, I believe in the talent and Zay flowers.
64:35I believe in everything that he's done so far this year.
64:39So I, I, wherever people want to put him in the top 12 is where I'm going to be at.
64:45Like, I still think he's a top 12 wide receiver.
64:48He is wide receiver nine in, uh, by the way, he's listed technically in like on our rankings as questionable with a foot.
64:55That does not, that seems to be a non-factor.
64:58And I'm with you though. I don't think Lamar plays.
65:01I, I, yeah, Lamar, I don't give Lamar any shot to play this week.
65:05I don't think he's playing at all. No fits wide receiver eight.
65:09When Huntley has played with flowers in the past, um, he's still targeted flowers at a really high rate.
65:15It's just been a lower average depth of target than it's been with Lamar.
65:19So plus with the way this Declan Doyle offense has operated the first few weeks, it's clear that say flowers is going
65:26to be heavily involved in the passing game. And I don't see any reason that's going to differ this week.
65:32Yeah. He's the dude. I do worry a little bit about, and I said this on an earlier show, actually, I might've
65:38said this with shows with both of you guys this week, just that I'm worried that Tyler Huntley isn't quite the fit
65:45with the Declan Doyle offense that he was with the Todd monkey and or Greg Roman offenses previously.
65:51And like Lamar has a skillset that I was very excited about his pairing with Declan Doyle.
65:56I don't feel that same way about Tyler Huntley.
65:59So I do worry that the offense will look a little different this week, but Debra, you made this point on the
66:06Thursday starts it live stream that, you know, we're not going to have a whole week of Doyle game planning around Tyler Huntley and his strengths and skillsets.
66:14So my dog is barking right next to the, my desk right now.
66:18So he clearly disagrees with me fading Zay flowers.
66:21It hurt me all summer. Maybe it'll hurt me again this week, but just, I'm just a little nervous for that reason
66:28in, in terms of what, but, but again, I also don't want to overreact to the second half of, of the game
66:34against the Titans where that was a pretty unique situation.
66:37He came in cold, just trying to hang on to a big lead already.
66:42So like, I do think it will look different in this than it did in that one.
66:47Before we get off this game, I want to ask you guys about your favorite prop bets this week.
66:53We have the prop bet cheat sheet at bettingpros.com.
66:56Every week we talk about our favorite three or four star bets in this segment of the show.
67:01Fitz, I'll start with you. What's your favorite prop bet cheat sheet bet this week?
67:06Tyler Huntley's passing yardage number is really low. 174.5.
67:09I'll take the over on that. Like it. Like it.
67:12That's a three star, by the way. Mark Andrews over 30 and a half receiving yards.
67:16It's a four star bet. Atlanta has been quietly shredded by tight ends.
67:20They gave up 15.6 PPR points to Pat Fryermuth.
67:23They gave up 18 plus PPR points. Darren Waller.
67:26Juwan Johnson could have got a touchdown and been in the 18 range too.
67:30So I think Mark Andrews, who's quietly been very good on a per route basis, hits the over here.
67:36The Falcons are opponents are throwing on the Falcons like 72.8% of the time.
67:40They are the biggest pass funnel defense in the league.
67:44Now, of course the Ravens are not going to completely abandon Derek Henry.
67:48They're not going to throw 72.8% of the time this week, but they're going to throw enough to get Huntley over his
67:54number and probably Andrews over his number too. Yes, sir.
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68:17At betting pros.com slash props. All right, guys, Monday night football, the big one this week, as you guys decided bills at
68:24Rams, obviously one of the best games of the weekend.
68:27One of the highest totals we've seen this year at 54 and a half to battle between the top two teams in
68:34current Superbowl consensus odds, not to mention the league's two most recent MVP winners.
68:38There's a lot of reasons why this is an awesome game.
68:41So simply give me a final score prediction here, along with the projected player of the game zebra.
68:47Oh, 31, 28 bills. I, I just think Josh Allen has one of those Josh Allen games, man.
68:52And I, I don't, I don't think DJ Moore is going to play in this game, but I think this could be
68:59like, we've seen Keon Coleman is the Rashad Bateman of this offense.
69:03So he's the, you know, the wide receiver handcuff.
69:06They're going to be able to run the ball.
69:08Uh, so yeah, I'll take bills 31, 28. Um, and I think the player of the game for this prediction also happen.
69:15I think James Cook's going to need a big night.
69:18So I'll go with James Cook. Fitz. Bills 34, Rams 31.
69:22And who else? But Josh Allen could be the player of the game.
69:26If the bills went. Yep. It's a good call.
69:28I didn't put together a final score prediction or projected player of the game, but it will tie in to my fresh from the oven.
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69:54Takes brought to you by DiGiorno. Fitz. What is your bold prediction for Monday night football this week?
69:59Another touchdown catch for Keon Coleman on the heels of his touchdown catch last week.
70:04Touchdown catch for Keon Coleman. As the bold prediction for you.
70:07I don't know. I didn't. I meant to look it up what that number would be anytime touchdown.
70:13We checked online. I didn't check that, but I would imagine you get halfway decent odds on that.
70:18D bro. What's your bold prediction? Right now. My bold prediction is that Kyron Williams will be the RB one in fantasy,
70:25the overall RB one in fantasy this week. And for anybody that has Kyron, this doesn't sound bold to you because you're
70:32saying, well, he was the RB one overall and all of fantasy land.
70:36And last week, I just want to give some numbers to everybody out there real fast and tell me who does this
70:43sound like in terms of usage over the last two weeks?
70:46This running back has had a 76.1% snap share.
70:49He's averaged 23.5 touches, 152.5 total yards, had an 18% target share in 2.14 yards per route run.
70:54If your mind immediately goes to Christian McCaffrey, you're right.
70:57Kyron Williams has been used like CMC over the last two weeks in a big game.
71:02I think that can happen again. And it's not like the bills run defense is any good.
71:08My bold prediction for this one is I didn't, again, I didn't put an actual score prediction on this like we did
71:14in the segment, but I think the bills not only win, I think they win by double digits.
71:20And that is not intended to be a knock on the Rams.
71:24I just love Josh Allen as an underdog and Josh Allen has not played his greatest the last couple of weeks.
71:30Obviously lots of turnovers against the Chargers. He didn't finish strong against the Patriots.
71:34I think that he comes out primetime Monday night football in LA against the other Super Bowl favorite as an underdog.
71:41I think he absolutely shows out. And I think we finished this game and the bills are now going to be Super
71:48Bowl favorites coming out of this one. And I think it'll be them and whoever wins nine or Seahawks will be sort
71:54of the clear two favorites in those odds. And Josh Allen will be the clear favorite and MVP again.
72:00I'm not saying it'll pan out that way the rest of the season, but I think coming out of this game, that's where we'll be at.
72:08I think he has an amazing game and the bills win by at least 10 points.
72:13That is my bold prediction. By the way, Debro, thank you for looking it up.
72:18You drop it in the chat. He on Coleman plus two 50 on the, on the touchdown odds there for Fitz's bold prediction.
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72:36Super fun. Week five slate. Really excited for this one.
72:39Best of luck. Everybody setting your lineups for the week for Debro and Fitz.
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