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The Extra Point: Fantasy Football Week 8 Tough Start/Sit Calls, Trade Advice & Players to Trust! (Ep. 2304)

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1 hr
Duration
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Oct 30, 2026
Published
Fri, October 30, 2026
55
Player insights
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Players mentioned
Topics
Jonathan TaylorA.J. BrownAmon-Ra St. BrownAntonio WilliamsDeVonta SmithJa'Marr ChaseJalen HurtsJaylen WaddleKyren WilliamsLamar JacksonMatthew GoldenMichael WilsonParker WashingtonQuinshon Judkins
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A.J. Brown

NegativeRole25:25

AJ Brown is part of a caller's stacked wide receiver core in a 12-team league; he is mentioned as part of the caller's starting lineup alongside Drake London and Matthew Golden.

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PositiveProjection29:16

AJ Brown is viewed as a potential trade piece for the caller's 2-5 team; the source suggests consolidating him with other receivers to acquire a better running back, noting that if he can get healthy, he should be productive rest of season.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

NegativeMatchup28:38

Amon Ra St. Brown's bye week coincided with the caller's 2-5 record; the source notes this as part of a scheduling misalignment that contributed to the team's poor record despite having strong talent.

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PositiveValue32:30

The source recommends immediately accepting a trade offer of Amon Ra St. Brown for Quorum and Boston, describing it as a strong deal worth executing before the other party reconsiders. While St. Brown is dealing with an injury, the source expects him to be okay and advises taking the trade despite some bye-week complications on the roster.

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Antonio Williams

PositiveProjection29:11

Antonio Williams is identified as a player the source is excited about for the rest of the season; positioned as a bright spot in the caller's roster despite the team's 2-5 record.

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PositiveBreakout54:16

Source identifies Antonio Williams as the best player available in the flex decision and prefers him over Bryce Strange; however, ECR has moved him down from 36 to 30 in recent days (Tuesday to Wednesday), suggesting market uncertainty or emerging concerns.

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Blake Corum

NegativeRole48:00

Blake Corum is listed as one of a manager's running backs in a PPR redraft league, though ranked below Jonathan Taylor and Jordan Mason in value.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveRole54:01

Source recommends continuing to start Braylon Allen; caller has him as RB2 despite Eagles backfield uncertainty and availability of alternatives like Mitchell and Dylan Sampson.

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Chase Brown

PositiveMatchup6:41

Facing Tennessee Titans defense that just traded away their best defensive tackle Jeffrey Simmons to the Chicago Bears; the source expects Brown to have a big game as the lead ball carrier for Cincinnati despite recent disappointment, with the Bengals favored by 10.5 points at home.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveProjection25:25

Loveland's recent resurgence is being downplayed by the market; the source believes he is becoming the elite tight end that was drafted pre-season, with strong recent production despite some drops. If he continues his current trajectory, he could be a top-five fantasy tight end for the rest of the season, representing an upgrade over Harold Fannin.

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Darius Cooper

NegativeRole3:59

Darius Cooper is presented as a backup option to consider if Devonta Smith does not play on Sunday night football.

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Darnell Washington

PositiveProjection46:50

Darnell Washington scored a touchdown in a recent week when started in a Yahoo insiders league, demonstrating unexpected production despite being a questionable lineup choice.

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DeVonta Smith

PositiveMatchup3:59

Smith has a higher ceiling this week against the Commanders defense compared to alternatives; the source recommends waiting it out on Smith for Sunday night football to get more information before deciding whether to pivot to a backup option.

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NegativeRole51:27

Mentioned as potentially active for upcoming game; source notes caller has a connection with him but expresses uncertainty about his role, suggesting Jacobi Lane may be the better flex option if Smith is active.

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Drake London

NegativeRole25:25

Drake London is part of a caller's stacked wide receiver core in a 12-team league; he is mentioned as part of the caller's starting lineup alongside AJ Brown and Matthew Golden.

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Emanuel Wilson

PositiveRole20:54

The source acknowledges that Emmanuel Wilson 'has been good' and notes he is a viable Seahawks running back option. However, the source ultimately prefers Charbonnet over Wilson if forced to choose between the two, suggesting Wilson is a secondary option despite his recent performance.

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J.K. Dobbins

NegativeBust45:15

The source mentions JK Dobbins as a potential tanking option alongside Travion Henderson and Jalen Waddle, suggesting he is another player who will not produce competitive fantasy value.

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Ja'Kobi Lane

PositiveRole51:27

Source expresses skepticism about his target share upside despite making impressive plays; notes that Lamar Jackson will likely stare at Flowers all day, limiting Lane's opportunities, and recommends benching him in favor of A.D. Mitchell.

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Ja'Marr Chase

PositiveProjection21:49

The source describes Jamar Chase as having Randy Moss-like physicality and freakish athletic ability; from a pure physical standpoint, if building a wide receiver from scratch, Chase would be the prototype, suggesting elite ceiling and upside potential.

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NegativeRole24:07

Chase is referenced in a discussion about great wide receivers who have played for the 49ers, positioning him among elite receiver talent; the source uses Chase and JSN as a comparison point for receiver pedigree and production.

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Jadarian Price

PositiveRole20:40

The source indicates that Jadarian Price is 'almost there' and 'coming back' to the Seahawks, positioning him as the likely lead back ahead of Charbonnet. This suggests Price will be the primary back in Seattle's offense going forward.

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Jalen Hurts

PositiveProjection21:52

The source compares JSN's elite route-running and precision to Jerry Rice's all-time great skill set, positioning him as the best wide receiver in the NFL based on technical excellence rather than pure physicality; this comparison elevates JSN's fantasy value as a high-floor, consistent producer.

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NegativeMatchup51:27

Implied context in discussion of Devonta Smith's role; source notes connection between Smith and 'the key' (likely referring to Hurts) but expresses uncertainty about Smith's target share.

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Jalin Hyatt

NegativeRole24:07

JSN is referenced in a discussion about great wide receivers who have played for the 49ers, positioning him among elite receiver talent; the source uses Chase and JSN as a comparison point for receiver pedigree and production.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeInjury3:00

Jalen Waddle is currently injured and unavailable.

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NegativeBust45:08

The source repeatedly references Jalen Waddle as an example of a player to put in your lineup if you want to tank and not score points; used as a cautionary example of poor fantasy production and non-competitiveness.

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Jaylen Warren

NegativeRole8:40

Spears' availability is uncertain heading into the week, which creates ambiguity around the backfield situation and Pollard's role.

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Jonathan Taylor

NegativeProjection19:08

The source speculates that Jonathan Taylor could be traded before Sunday, suggesting this is a realistic possibility that fantasy managers should monitor. If traded, Taylor would become 'the number one in an offense,' implying significant upside in a new situation.

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NegativeRole48:00

Jonathan Taylor is considered one of a manager's two best players in a PPR redraft league, alongside Parker Washington, and is being targeted in a trade proposal.

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NegativeValue49:21

Caller considering trading him away as part of a deal for Kyron Williams, Quinshawn Judkins, and Matthew Golden; source strongly advises against holding him, stating 'I don't think you should stay with anything' given caller's 1-6 record and need to make roster moves.

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Jordan Mason

NegativeRole48:00

Jordan Mason is listed as a manager's second-best running back option in a PPR redraft league, behind Jonathan Taylor, with limited depth beyond these two backs.

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Jordyn Tyson

NegativeValue25:55

Tyson is being offered as a flyer in a trade package alongside Colston Loveland; the source acknowledges he could be nothing but frames him as a low-risk add since the main value of the trade is the tight end upgrade.

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Josh Jacobs

NegativeMatchup49:08

Josh Jacobs shares a Week 11 bye week with Kyron Williams, creating a bye week conflict that factored into a manager's decision to reject a trade proposal involving both backs.

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Kyren Williams

NegativeValue48:47

Trade target in discussion; caller considering acquiring him alongside Quinshawn Judkins and Matthew Golden for Jonathan Taylor and Parker Washington, but hesitant due to shared week 11 bye with Jacobs, which would leave caller without both top running backs during that week.

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NegativeMatchup48:48

Kyron Williams was rejected in a trade proposal partly due to a Week 11 bye week conflict; the manager noted that both Kyron Williams and Jacobs share the same Week 11 bye, which would leave the manager without running back depth during that week.

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Lamar Jackson

PositiveProjection51:42

Expected to see a big target share when he enters the game; implies elevated passing volume and opportunity.

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NegativeUsage51:45

Source notes that Lamar Jackson will likely focus heavily on Flowers in the passing game, limiting target opportunities for other receivers like Jacobi Lane.

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Matthew Golden

NegativeRole25:25

Matthew Golden is part of a caller's stacked wide receiver core in a 12-team league; he is mentioned as part of the caller's starting lineup alongside AJ Brown and Drake London.

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NegativeValue48:47

Offered as part of a trade package alongside Kyron Williams and Quinshawn Judkins for Jonathan Taylor and Parker Washington; source recommends fighting for Kyron and Golden while removing Judkins from the deal.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeMatchup7:07

The source recommends playing Michael Wilson against Dallas despite some hesitation, describing it as a situation where you 'just kind of have to plug your nose and play him' against the Cowboys defense.

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NegativeValue25:07

Wilson is being discussed as a trade piece; the source notes that Wilson has value and should not be considered a garbage piece, suggesting he has legitimate fantasy utility despite being on a caller's bench. He is being offered in a trade for Colston Loveland and Jordan Tyson.

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Nico Collins

NegativeRole48:00

Nico Collins is listed among a manager's valuable receivers in a PPR redraft league, alongside Parker Washington and Jalen Coker.

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Parker Washington

PositiveProjection48:35

A fantasy manager is hesitant to trade away Parker Washington despite needing running back depth, citing confidence in what he believes will happen with Washington down the stretch of the season.

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NegativeValue49:18

Caller considering trading him alongside Jonathan Taylor for Kyron Williams, Quinshawn Judkins, and Matthew Golden; trade partner insists on including Parker Washington in the deal, making negotiations difficult.

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Pat Freiermuth

PositiveMatchup9:29

The source recommends Freiermuth in a tight end start/sit decision between Higbee, Chiggers, and Freiermuth, positioning him as the preferred option.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeMatchup29:05

Patrick Mahomes was forced into a bad matchup in Week 8 against the Seattle Seahawks; the source notes this was his worst possible week to draw and that the Seahawks' defense prevented him from getting into the red zone, making it difficult for the caller to win that week.

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Quinshon Judkins

NegativeMatchup4:59

Judkins faces a really tough matchup against the Steelers this week, making him a less attractive play compared to Devonta Smith against the Commanders.

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NegativeValue48:47

Offered as part of a trade package alongside Kyron Williams and Matthew Golden for Jonathan Taylor and Parker Washington; source suggests removing Judkins from the deal to make it more palatable for the caller.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveMatchup9:09

The source recommends Dowdle over Coleman, noting that Dowdle caught a lot of passes the previous week, supporting his viability despite being in a two-man committee.

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Sean Tucker

PositiveProjection46:50

Sean Tucker scored a touchdown in a recent week when started in a Yahoo insiders league, demonstrating unexpected production despite being a questionable lineup choice.

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Stefon Diggs

PositiveMatchup7:20

The source expresses confidence in Diggs as a start option, positioning him alongside Michael Wilson and Chase Brown as the recommended plays for the week.

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Tony Pollard

NegativeMatchup8:03

The source cautions against chasing Pollard's three-touchdown performance from the previous week, noting that if the Bengals blow out the Titans, Pollard may not see significant playing time; the matchup dynamics are described as 'very different' from last week's game.

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Trevor Lawrence

NegativeMatchup28:43

Trevor Lawrence's bye week coincided with the caller's 2-5 record; the source notes this as a scheduling misalignment that contributed to the team's poor record despite having a strong roster on paper.

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Trey Benson

PositiveMatchup9:09

The source recommends Dowdle over Coleman in a start/sit decision, noting that while Dowdle is in a two-man committee, Coleman is in a three-man committee with a much worse matchup; Dowdle caught a lot of passes the previous week.

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Treylon Burks

NegativeRole54:37

Source expresses concern that Traylon Burks could receive the Quinion Mitchell treatment (sacrificial role similar to what Cardinals did with Jalen Brooks), which would limit Antonio Williams' upside; this is identified as a likely scenario but not certain.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Guiardo. There's no plan.
0:03There's no stuff. There's no things. It is just Erickson and I patiently waiting for you guys to ask us questions and
0:10when you do so, we're gonna bring you up and we do this in our Fantasy Pros Discord at FantasyPros.com slash chat.
0:17That's how you can get there. It's a free Discord.
0:20I think you just gotta have like a free Fantasy Pros account.
0:24All the things are free. And you can get a premium account if you want to have access to literally everything.
0:31All the AMAs and stuff are the private channels, but join the chat.
0:35You guys can come and hang out with us every single week when we're in here, and we'd love to talk to
0:42you, and we'd love to hang out and answer your questions.
0:45That is the plan, fantasypros.com slash chat. Join today.
0:48You can catch me and Erickson usually at 2 p.m.
0:51Eastern on every Thursday. We've got some Fitzy and Boggs, like the third Tuesday of every month, and then I think it's
0:58Worm and Fitzy the first Tuesday of every month.
1:01There's a multitude of different things, but come and hang out.
1:05Be a part of the show. Andrew Erickson. Hello, friend.
1:08Are you excited? You're about to go through a s'mores party that's going to happen?
1:12That's why we're going early. There's like a fantasy process running.
1:16I don't even know what to call it. It's like a s'mores party, literally.
1:20It's a virtual s'mores thing. Yeah, we're making some s'mores beverages to celebrate during the festivities of the holidays coming up so
1:27you can showcase your abilities of, oh, let me make you a nice cocktail, mocktail type of thing.
1:33You get some s'mores materials, and they're going to think, what are you doing?
1:37But you'll be like, I know exactly what I'm doing because I took a class.
1:42So I have a degree that says s'mores maker when it comes to beverages.
1:46So I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully it can come out good.
1:50I have been experiencing a lot of L's lately in my life, just doing dumb things, breaking things.
1:56What did you break? Making food that tastes bad.
1:59What did you make bad? So I made a very peppery dish of risotto last night because I accidentally dumped pepper in,
2:06and I tried to salvage it, and it just tasted terrible.
2:09Like standard pepper? Just like standard pepper, but I meant to season it.
2:13Instead, I dumped it because the cap. Yeah, and I'm like, okay, maybe I can work around this.
2:19No, no. Okay, what did you break? No. One of those, something that you put on, it's like on your stove top
2:26where if you're like using a spoon to mix something around, you will place the spoon in between mixes.
2:32One of those, I don't know what the exact word for it is, but it's like decorative.
2:37But it's something that my wife had, and I broke it because I was trying to wash it in the sink, and
2:44it slipped out of my hands, and it broke.
2:47And it's one thing when you feel like a lot of accidents happen around you, they're probably not accidents.
2:53It's probably on you. So that's something that I've been experiencing the last couple days, taking a lot of L's.
2:59So today the goal was let's just neutral. Okay.
3:02Don't need to get some dubs. All you're defending Jalen Waddle's coming back to you, is what you're saying?
3:08Yes. Oh, of course. Who's injured again, of course.
3:11But hopefully W today when we go to do these drinks, that'll be kind of fun, and the s'mores and making all that stuff.
3:18And W's for the people, talking to the extra point, answering questions.
3:22And yeah. Excited to talk to everybody. Okay. Let's do that.
3:26Yeah. No more L's. Let's get you some dubs.
3:29You get to drink in the midday and eat s'mores and talk to people.
3:33You're living the life, man. Don't worry about some ladle getting broken and some peppered risotto.
3:38Things are going to be – I'm going to tell you this.
3:42Those are your only problems. Lavish life. Yes. Exactly.
3:45Exactly. That is the big takeaway. When I unload the things that are going on here, it ain't about peppered risotto.
3:51So I can only dream that those are mine.
3:54What are your guys's? We're excited to talk to you.
3:57Hands are raised. We're going to get to it.
4:00No Thursday night football stuff because we're going to keep Erickson in a really good mood.
4:05And let's start with Aztec. First up on the show.
4:08I think first timer on the show. I don't recall this name.
4:12Aztec, what up? Hey, guys. How are you doing?
4:15Can you hear me all right? Yeah, we got you good, man.
4:19All right, cool. Thank you for taking me long time, listener.
4:22Perfect. So I posted my team in the chat, and it's actually the wrong team I have.
4:27So I'll delete that, and I'll try to get back on.
4:31But on that team, I have Devonta Smith, and I also have Darius Cooper.
4:35It's a one-point PPR. And I also have Quinshawn Judkins.
4:39I was wondering if you guys will, like, hold out for Devonta Smith on Sunday night.
4:44And if he doesn't play, then play Darius Cooper or just roll with Quinchon.
4:48Ooh, that's a pretty good question. Erickson, what do you think on that?
4:52I think I'd wait it out. Honestly, it's a really good matchup for the Commanders, and they're playing on Sunday night football.
4:59So we should get at least more information on Sunday leading up to the games where Judkins has a really tough matchup against the Steelers.
5:07Is that me or Erickson that's going out there?
5:10Are the s'mores already getting to him, or is that my internet, Erickson, or is that you?
5:15I think it was me. Okay. All right, it's Erickson.
5:18That's what it was. I was just chilling, just waiting.
5:21Erickson. Oh, man. This is actually Erickson put Pepper on the Wi-Fi.
5:25Who said that? Who said that in the chat, iDevo?
5:28Erickson got Pepper. Oh. This is one of the...
5:31There are things that I love in life, and it is things like this.
5:36When you monologue the open about L's that you're taking, and then literally internet craps out on the first question.
5:42Sometimes I love this stuff. Pepper. And Pepper in the Wi-Fi is an all-timer.
5:46If we were really pressing merch, too, I would need some Pepper in the Wi-Fi.
5:51I would need Pepper in the Wi-Fi hats, shirts, all of it.
5:55Oh, give me more of it. All right. So, I'm sorry.
5:58Repeat just like the last part of it. You said, would you wait it out because you got Darius Cooper?
6:05Yes. I would wait it out. I think Smith has a higher ceiling this week against the Commander's defense versus Judkins facing the Steelers.
6:12Tougher matchup for him. Okay. Perfect. Let's go... Hey, it's our friend Salt.
6:16Salt's in the house. What up, Salt? What's up, guys?
6:19Well, Erickson, I don't think we'll be taking an L on Sunday against the Dolphins unless I'm crazy.
6:25So, you got something to look forward to. All right.
6:28So, chopped league. Dig, we're down to 11. Behind Gibbs and Drake London, I got to pick one more running back, one
6:35more wide receiver, and one more flex. And I got some depth these days.
6:40So, for the running backs, it's Chase Brown, Tony Pollard, or Hampton.
6:43And then wide receivers, you got Emeka, Ladd, Diggs, Michael Wilson, and DJ Moore.
6:48So, it's pick one running back, pick one wide receiver, and then pick one flex.
6:52Okay. Perfect. Thank you, Salt. I already know where the running back is going to be.
6:57So, let's give us the Chase Brown sell for the week.
7:01Chase Brown's facing the Tennessee Titans defense that just traded away their best defensive tackle in Jeffrey Simmons to the Chicago Bears.
7:08So, the Browns rushing attack run all over Tennessee Titans last week.
7:12Ten and a half point favorites at home. Chase Brown, I know he's been disappointing, but he's still the lead ball carrier for the Cincinnati Bengals.
7:20So, I'm expecting him to have a big game here.
7:23So, I would roll with him as my running back play.
7:26And I think the receivers, Michael Wilson feels like you just kind of have to plug your nose and play him against Dallas.
7:34I think it would be probably him and Diggs, right?
7:37Maybe those are the two wide receiver and flex.
7:40You like Diggs? Oh, dogs. Yeah. I like Diggs.
7:43You know the reference to that movie? What's the movie?
7:46So, it goes... The reference sounds familiar. It goes, Diggs.
7:49Like, yeah, Diggs. Oh, dogs. Yeah. I like Diggs.
7:52Nothing? Dogs. What movie is it? It's... I've never heard this before.
7:55Yeah, the movie Snatch. I'm forgetting the director now, but it was like one of his first, but it was like Pitt
8:02was in it and a bunch of other good people.
8:06But that's the line that I, anytime anybody ever says like dogs or Diggs, I immediately think of that line.
8:12Oh, yeah. I like Diggs. I like Diggs. Yeah, I think you are right.
8:16I think it is... Oh, man. I kind of want to say Ladd like a tiny bit, but you don't also...
8:23Yeah, Ladd is tough, man. Salt could go with Tony Pollard after...
8:27Do you think there's a huge letdown after the Pollard game?
8:30I think so. This is just a totally different spot for Pollard where if the Bengals are blowing out the Titans, you
8:37could see Tony Pollard not even really in the game.
8:40Spears, we don't know if he's going to play or not.
8:44So, I just wouldn't chase Tony Pollard's three touchdown monster performance from last week because I think that was very specific to the optics of last week's matchup.
8:52And this week's matchup, I think, is very different.
8:55Yeah. I think you might have said it best just earlier.
8:59Just maybe plug your nose, Michael Wilson, Diggs, and Chase Brown.
9:02Those would be the plays. Also, I think I took Salt off, but Salt also had a question of these.
9:09Concepcion or Omar Cooper? I'll just go through these.
9:11Concepcion. Dowdle or Coleman? I feel like I should say Coleman and it should be easy, but the Browns run defense is not good.
9:19And Dowdle is in a two-man committee, whereas Coleman kind of in a three-man committee in a much worse matchup.
9:25So, I feel like Dowdle is the right answer.
9:28He caught a lot of passes last week, but I feel like this is not consensus, though.
9:33Yeah, I don't trust Dowdle. I'm going to go Coleman there.
9:37And then tight end Higby, Chig, or Friermuth? Or Chig.
9:40All right, oh, Higby. There are Higby on this one.
9:43All right, so we're a little bit torn on those because I think I might legitimately be the opposite of everything you said on that one.
9:51Like, Omar Cooper and Concepcion, I think, is really tough.
9:55I think they're close. I could give you the Concepcion one.
9:58The other two, I'm going to go on the other side.
10:01So, there you go, Salt. There you go. We got lots of them for you.
10:06All right, let's get another one over here. Here, this is Overcome.
10:10What's up? What's up, dudes? What's up, dude? What's going on?
10:13What do you got? How much? May I ask two questions?
10:17Please. As long as it's not Thursday Night Football related.
10:20Yeah. All right. What's up, man? Freaking, do I hold on to Minnesota's defense or drop them for Kansas City against Denver
10:27or the Lions, I think, could be sneaky against Minnesota?
10:30What do you think? What do you think, Erickson?
10:33I think I saw all the Vikings defense. I mean, also, I just kind of don't want to put the Vikings out there.
10:40Like, you don't really care about defenses that much and I can stream them, but that's the one where it's like, I'd
10:47like to kind of like keep them forever because they're just monsters.
10:51So, probably go them still. All right. Awesome. Let's do it.
10:54And now my second question. I got to make room on my bench to pull Charbonnet off?
11:00Do I, off of IR, do I drop? I don't think I can get a two for one to make room.
11:06But do I drop Stephen? I'm not dropping Stevenson.
11:09Emmanuel Wilson, Henderson. I'm not dropping Jeremiah Love. McGowan, that's pretty much it.
11:13So, to make room. Or do I drop Charbonnet and hold on to one of these guys?
11:19Oh, yeah. Emmanuel Wilson. Emmanuel Wilson. Henderson. Trevion Henderson.
11:21Or McGowan. Oh, man. Thank you for the questions overcome.
11:25That is the tough one there. I kind of wish you could not have to, by the way, activate him because I think he's going to...
11:33I just don't know if he plays again. Wait as long as...
11:37Well, I would first of all wait as long as possible to actually have to make a drop.
11:42Even if you have an illegal lineup, as long as you don't get penalized for until Sunday comes.
11:48I mean, because you could see Jonathan Taylor get traded before Sunday.
11:52So, I would, number one, wait as long as you can before you feasibly have to make the roster move.
11:58That being said, I'm going to probably cut McGowan.
12:01I don't want to, but... You can't cut Wilson and then...
12:04I mean, I guess Wilson you could cut if you just are confident that Charbonnet is going to come back because if
12:11Charbonnet does come back, then you would... Then Wilson's going to be a guy cut next week, right?
12:17So, yeah. But it's obviously risky, so... Actually, wait, no, no.
12:20Sorry, go ahead. No, I just hate it. I, like...
12:24I got to be honest with you. There's a part of me that thinks maybe the answer is Charbonnet at that point
12:30just because, like, I mean, McGowan is a nothing burger if Taylor doesn't get traded.
12:35Really feels like he does. And then he becomes the number one in an offense.
12:40Charbonnet's not going to... I just don't think Charbonnet with the health stuff is going to be the number one on that
12:47team at any point this season because Jadarian Price is almost there.
12:51At any point this season? I think Jadarian Price is coming back.
12:54Emmanuel Wilson has been good. Like... Well, so... Maybe it's then you got to pick a Seahawks running back, right?
13:01Yeah. Who do you want to ride with, Charbonnet or Wilson?
13:04I would ride with Charbonnet because the team just is overly obsessed with him.
13:09You're probably right. And... If Charbonnet comes back this week...
13:12Because, again, if he's out again, you don't have to move him off his injured reserve.
13:17You still don't know if he's going to actually play.
13:20So, again, going back to wait as long as you can before having to actually make a move because there's a chance
13:27that Charbonnet still doesn't play and you don't actually have to drop any of these guys.
13:32Which is the best case scenario. Best case scenario, but it's good to talk through it because if that's not the case,
13:39then I would just dump Emmanuel Wilson because if Charbonnet comes back and Jadarian Price comes back, who are you going to be dumping next week?
13:47Yeah. Emmanuel Wilson versus McGowan where there's a chance that his value just skyrockets if Taylor gets moved.
13:53And Wilson, I think that his value can only go down, right?
13:56Because these running backs are going to come back at some point.
14:00So, I think I would try to get ahead of it.
14:04So, even though you could get burned if Wilson ends up getting the bell cow workload against the Bears, who, again, now
14:11they have Jeffrey Simmons, so the matchup's not as good.
14:14So, I want to point that out as well.
14:17That's kind of my lead there. No, I think you worked it out really well.
14:21Like, in an ideal world, we would just say McGowan, but like, you just can't.
14:26I've been advocating since the Waver Show. The Waver Show on Monday with Fitzy and Seeley, I looked and McGowan was 7.5% rostered.
14:33Everybody should have picked him up. Everybody should, like, actually, I think we were talking about this on the Rank Show when
14:40Wavers had run, so maybe that was it, where Wavers had already run, and you would potentially have open moves.
14:47You should just pick up McGowan just for the sake.
14:50You just can't cut him right now. It's just, I think you said it best.
14:54Yeah, that'll win, yeah. You did a really good breakdown.
14:58It really is a tough one, and it's an, I mean, it's the best case scenario.
15:03Be thankful that you're dealing with those type of situations where it's just all the moves, they just hurt you instead of just, they're all gross.
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16:04There you go. How do I say this name?
16:07I got it. Majestic Rhino? Oh. There you go.
16:09You got it. I've just brain dumb sometimes when we're doing this.
16:13And as I said it, I'm like, oh, it's Majestic Rhino.
16:17I'm an idiot. What's up, dude? What do you got?
16:20Well, I got two for you. One's a quick one.
16:23This week, do I start in a flex spot?
16:26Coker or Michael Wilson? Sorry. There's a question. Oh, yeah.
16:29It's Thursday. Yeah, sorry. In the chat. My bad.
16:32It's all good. All right. All right. Now, here's the fun one.
16:36I'm a part of this super flex league that has a rule that you're only ever allowed to hold two quarterbacks at one time.
16:43Unless one is officially on IR, not just eligible for your IR spot.
16:47Can't be out. Has to be physically on IR.
16:50Kind of stupid. Anyway, I rode Bryce Young in the beginning of the year as my QB2.
16:55And looking at his schedule upcoming and his last performance, I dropped him for Sam Darnold, who has a decent schedule moving forward.
17:03But also Malik Willis is available. So, essentially, my question is, do I just continue streaming with the always at all times eight quarterbacks available?
17:11Or do I pick one Malik Willis or Sam Darnold rest of the season?
17:15I know you love you, Sam. Thank you for the question.
17:18I know you love you some Malik Willis this week, Erickson.
17:22I do like Malik Willis. I do like Sam Darnold, though.
17:25His rest of season schedule is really good. And they upgraded the offensive line, bringing Quinton Nelson.
17:31So, can he only have one of those guys?
17:34I think the streaming thing might work, to be honest.
17:37Like, I think that if those guys are available and you can play matchups, there's a lot of quarterbacks that are kind
17:44of in that fringe QB1, QB2 tier that you can kind of piecemeal together productive outings.
17:49I like Malik Willis this week as just like a rusher in general.
17:53But, like, he's got a lot of good matchups coming up after this week.
17:57But Darnold has the Bears this week. So, if you don't want to, like, worry about is Malik Willis going to run or not, I think he will.
18:06But no one on the Bears can cover JSN.
18:09No one on the planet can cover JSN. Nobody can cover JSN.
18:13And it's crazy because you think Sam Darnold would put up better fantasy numbers because JSN is just dominating every single week.
18:20But then he's not. That being said, I think that Darnold feels, like, pretty safe.
18:24So, I'm cool with that. I'm not sure we answered the question exactly.
18:28I'm glad that this is the direction that they're going in.
18:32Yeah, I think you answered the question. By the way, I asked Bogman this the other day.
18:37If I ask you who is the best wide receiver in the NFL, do you answer without question JSN?
18:43Yeah. Okay. I'm just interested if people will accept that.
18:46Is Scott Bogman not? No, no. He said it instantly.
18:50And, like, I guess I think people get caught up in, like, the Jamar Chase stuff and the physicality and how incredible he is.
18:57And you think of Puka. But it's just like, JSN is in another world.
19:01And I just am curious when he asked that question if people are comfortable saying JSN.
19:07And that's now two people that have, like, who's the best wide receiver in the world?
19:12And you're like, JSN. Yeah, I don't have to think much about it.
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20:52Yeah, and I don't know. Obviously, there are going to be people that disagree, and we'll have arguments for some of the
20:59other guys, because there are a lot of really good and elite wide receivers in the NFL, but what is Jason not
21:06doing in terms of the numbers say he's the best?
21:09You know what it reminds me of? I just say he's the best.
21:13I'll change the tone of it. It reminds me, and it's definitely like it shows my age a little bit, and then
21:20it also shows an age gap of like I think people in their 30s.
21:25If you go like who's the best wide receiver in the world?
21:29If you're smart and you have a brain, you say Jerry Rice.
21:32But if you're under 35 and you didn't watch Jerry Rice and you're a little bit stupider, you say Randy Moss.
21:39And joking aside, one of the reasons you also say that is like from a physicality standpoint, you look at a guy
21:46like Randy Moss and you're like, this guy's a freak.
21:49He could do anything. He could jump one hand.
21:52But like Jerry Rice didn't have some of those.
21:55He was an incredible route runner. He got open.
21:58He made the plays, catches, da-da-da. I think like JSN has the Jerry Rice feel to Jamar Chase having the Randy Moss feel.
22:05In that like Jamar Chase is just an absolute – like from a physicality, if you were building a wide receiver, you would probably build Jamar Chase.
22:13But JSN is the best wide receiver. The route running is insane.
22:17That's what that reminds me of. What is your brain level when I ask you Jerry Rice or Randy Moss, greatest receiver of all time?
22:25That's usually the order I would go in is Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, and then my number three is T.O.
22:31I put T.O up there. Really? I don't know if I know who my number three is.
22:37Monster. I think it's also the order of the amount of touchdowns they scored because Jerry Rice has, I think, over 200 touchdowns.
22:44No position player will ever catch – Which is literally insane.
22:47And then you have Moss and T.O. who are in like the 150 range, which is ludicrous to think about that.
22:54These guys are second and third in my all-time receiver rankings, and there are more than 50 touchdowns behind the guy that's first.
23:01Yeah. I mean, someone said Calvin in there. I think Calvin is like part of that discussion.
23:07It's not Chris Carter, but that's I guess a little bit my era of thinking like Chris Carter was freaking dominant when
23:14he was out there, but he's not in that range.
23:17I don't know if I know who the number – I mean, I grew up watching T.O, and I like T.O, but
23:24I just don't know if I put him in the third best receiver of all that.
23:29By the way, a crazy thing about T.O, he looks like he could go play right now.
23:34Have you seen him recently? He is so physically locked.
23:37And he has a place in my brain, one of my core memories.
23:41My core is of football. I've got a few like insanely core memories, and one of them is in my bedroom.
23:48I had a Niner blanket on me, and he catches that pass in the end zone and gets slammed by three Packers or whatever, and he's crying.
23:56He gets a touchdown, and I just jump up and freak out.
24:00Like that is a core memory of mine. I just don't know if I can put him at number three overall.
24:07All three of those guys played for the 49ers.
24:10They did. It's wide receiver you. All the greats, you play for the Niners.
24:14But, yeah, that would be maybe like a way I would describe the Chase and JSN thing.
24:19Sorry, I took us off on a tangent, but always curious.
24:23And I know that people have some thoughts on it.
24:26I'm actually way more interested in talking about the third best receiver of all time, who that is.
24:32I think that's a really fun discussion, but for another time.
24:35Devo. What's up, I Devo? Didn't you have my favorite line, Pepper, in the Wi-Fi?
24:40Yeah, I was going to say I'll take my 2% royalties on that T-shirt.
24:44Brother. All time. Thank you, man. Thank you, thank you.
24:47Okay, I got two questions, a trade question and a bit of an overall strategy question.
24:52Trade question, in talks to the guy, do I trade away Michael Wilson and Casey Concepcion for Colson Loveland and Jordan Tyson?
24:59Both those guys are on my bench, by the way.
25:03My current tight end is Harold Fannin. Wait, who are you trading again?
25:07I'm getting rid of Michael Wilson and Casey Concepcion.
25:09And you're getting Tyson Loveland? Tyson and then Colson Loveland.
25:13And then what would your wide receiver core look like?
25:16My current receiver core for that team is, it's pretty stacked.
25:19It's AJ Brown, Drake. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I wasn't starting them.
25:23I have AJ Brown, Drake London, and then I have Matthew Golden.
25:27I just don't love it because of the pieces you're giving up.
25:31But I guess if you're not starting them and you're doing a big upgrade at tight end, I think that's interesting.
25:37What do you think, Harrison? Yeah, I think the upgrade at tight end.
25:41I think we as a market, the Royal We, maybe we're downplaying Loveland's recent resurgence.
25:46Sure. Because think about this before the season started.
25:49You'd be looking at Loveland. You're getting him for two bench receivers.
25:53Great point. Elite tight end. And this is it.
25:55Leia. It was a smash. So, and again, I'm not trying to say that I'm different from the market because I think
26:02we're all kind of like, what is Loveland, right?
26:05Is he an elite tight end or is he a matchup tight end?
26:09But he's been really good over the last couple games.
26:12Even though he had a bunch of drops against the Patriots, he still ended up having a really productive game.
26:19You're starting to see him become that elite tight end that we were drafting, even though it was a slow start to the season.
26:26So, yeah, I think I can get behind this.
26:29And the fact that you get Tyson thrown in as a flyer where, look, he could be nothing.
26:35But worst case scenario is you're upgrading your tight end with bench players, right?
26:39So I think this kind of goes back to the idea behind a lot of these trades where are you improving your starting roster?
26:47And that works for both ways because the team that's getting these receivers might actually, I mean, I think it's good that
26:54you're not just trading like garbage pieces, right? Wilson has value.
26:57Concepcion is coming off a monster game. Like he's, he's fun.
27:01You want to have him on your team, but you're getting Loveland, who I think is an upgrade over Fanon.
27:07And if he continues on this trajectory, then he could be a top five fantasy tight end the rest of the way.
27:14Yeah. And I think the main point too is the construction of like, this is around the time where you really want
27:21to start consolidating to make that best starting lineup.
27:24That you possibly can so you can trade from depth.
27:27What was your other question? Yeah. So I'm two and five in my 12 team.
27:32I keep just facing the high week every week.
27:34I'll, I'll drop my team in the chat. What are your guys' thoughts?
27:39Just kind of an overall tough luck with your schedule, but you feel like your team's good on paper.
27:44I mean, do you think I should try to move some pieces?
27:48Do I just hold on and kind of hope the high week stop?
27:52You're not really lying. He's got Trevor Lawrence, Kyron Tootin, and then Amandra Watson, AJ Brown.
27:57I mean, your tight ends kind of stink or whatever, but they're doable.
28:02Yeah, I kind of agree. This is one of those where I look and I'm like, well, that should not a two
28:08and five team, but things just didn't work out.
28:11Any thoughts on something you would do? I mean, doesn't have like, he has no running back depth whatsoever.
28:17Um, you've got a little bit of plethora of wide receivers.
28:21I guess if you could consolidate and maybe take like an AJ Brown or a Watson and then get a better running
28:28back and then just maybe like a little slight uptick on wide receiver, that would be good.
28:33Because if Ladd bounces back, you cover yourself. He could be better than AJ Brown in theory.
28:38So that's probably the move that I'm making because of your running back depth.
28:43But what do you think, Erickson? I think I agree with you.
28:47I think trying to add a running back, because you only have two guys that you can really rely on in any capacity between Kyron and Bashaw Tootin.
28:55So that's the angle I would look at. But you just had some bad luck, right?
29:00Trevor Lawrence had his bye week. You lost Amon Ra during his bye week.
29:05You lost Tootin during his bye week. Like you lost.
29:08I'm sure that this person lost last week probably, right?
29:11Because the Jaguars were on a bye. That's your starting quarterback in your RB2.
29:16And you had Mahomes. So you had to play Mahomes in his worst week that he could possibly draw against the Seattle Seahawks.
29:23So it's going to be hard to combat when your quarterback doesn't get into the red zone.
29:28So it's tough for you to win those types of weeks.
29:32But Antonio Williams we're excited about. Rest of season.
29:34AJ Brown, you know, if he can get healthy, he should be able to be productive.
29:39Ladd, if he's healthy, he can produce a little bit here.
29:43So I think that you don't blow it up.
29:46But if you want to trade one of those receivers for a running back, I think that's probably the move.
29:52I'd be open to like an AJ Brown for equivalent running back.
29:56Or like I said, if you had to take a Watson, you could probably get like good-ish running back.
30:02And then maybe like another solid wide receiver and a two for one.
30:06So those would be the two pieces I would do.
30:09You also, if you're two and five, be a little bit, you can be a little bit more comfortable like blowing things up a little bit more.
30:18Probably don't want to trade him on our St.
30:20Brown, but like you wanted to trade off a running back and a wide receiver and a two for three.
30:27Like I'm probably playing around. You got to make a move now.
30:31Like I don't know if you can go two and six or any more.
30:35So those would, that would be the direction that we would be looking at.
30:39All right. Get some more question from Dub Bears.
30:42Premium member on the Fantasy Pros Discord. Must be feeling pretty, pretty good after the Jeffrey Sims trade that just happened.
30:49But disappeared. So I don't see it. All right.
30:52Let's see if this works again. Let's invite you back up.
30:55Dub Bears. Going once. Dub Bears. Dub Bears. Dub Bears.
30:58Dub Bears. Do you remember that? Did you ever see that in Dub Bears?
31:03Who was in that? My dad. Name me one person.
31:06Name me one person that was in one of those skits.
31:09His name is escaping me. I'm sorry. Well, there's multiple hims.
31:13I'm bad with names. Me too. Me too. All right.
31:16The Bears, we can't hear you. Yeah, we can't.
31:19We can't. You're not. You have to accept coming up on the stage.
31:23Try it again. Oh, Farley. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:26There you go. There you go. See, see, see.
31:28I knew it was in. It was in there.
31:31Yeah. I know it. You have it. There's so much pepper up here, man.
31:36All right. Vinny. What's up, Vinny? I'm a premium member on the Discord.
31:40What you got? No dice? Well, DeBear, if you request to come up again, I will accept it.
31:46But you have to accept it. And Vinny is also having issues.
31:49Some of the newer people are having issues. So, Vinny, come back up.
31:53Re-raise your hand. And I am noticing when I try to invite DeBears, it looks weirder.
31:58It doesn't look like normal. Let me see if I can do this.
32:03Invite to speak. I just right clicked it. Let's see if that works.
32:07If not, there must be a setting in there that's not working for you, brother.
32:11You might have to change that, which I don't think it is.
32:15All right. Let's go to Ronan. What was that, Ronan?
32:18Hey, gentlemen. What you got? Nope. I got a twofer.
32:21So my team's in the chat. The first one is I got a last place team appears to be pretty desperate, and they're offering me St.
32:30Brown for my quorum and Boston. I've got a lot of bi-week stuff to get through, but should I just go ahead
32:37and scoop this up or just hold my depth?
32:39I would take it. I would immediately take it.
32:42I would send him in edible arrangements after, too.
32:45Those are the ones where you don't... You do a quick double check to make sure.
32:50Did Amon Ra St. Brown get hurt or something?
32:53Just to double check. I know he actually is dealing with an injury.
32:57He should be okay, though. But yeah, I would take this before they take it back.
33:02Yeah, before they stop drinking. Before they leave the s'mores party that we're about to have.
33:07So all right. What's that? That was a good deal.
33:10Yeah. Take it. The second one is I was able to pick up the Minnesota defense, and they did well for me
33:17last week, but the rest of the schedule is pretty badged.
33:21Do I just hold on to them no matter what, or do I try to offer them to somebody for assets?
33:27If you can trade a defense to get anything, do that.
33:31I don't think I've ever seen a defense get traded in the league that I play in, so...
33:36Well, there was that one year where the Patriots defense was just unreal to start the season, and you saw it.
33:43It was like a top 10 score for the first nine weeks of the season.
33:48And people were trading legitimate players to get the Patriots DST, and it was because they had a really easy schedule.
33:54They just totally annihilated every quarterback that they faced.
33:57But yeah, flip the defense for anything. Because as we talked about on a couple different shows this year, or this week,
34:04they have had a really easy schedule to start the season.
34:08So the Lions are the best offense they've faced.
34:10Obviously, it doesn't mean that they can't still deliver.
34:13There's still a really good defense with Flores calling the shots, but it may be tougher sledding, as Ronan alluded to, with tougher matchups coming up.
34:21Yeah. I love the idea of trading a defense, but yeah.
34:25All right. Let's try a few of our friends again.
34:28Let's try Vinny. Let's see if this works for Vinny.
34:31Oh, I see Vinny. What's up, Vinny? How are you guys doing?
34:35Good. I've been a big fan. I always catch you guys on the YouTube Wednesday channel, so I appreciate you taking my invite.
34:42Oh, thanks, brother. I'm glad you came over and hung out with us.
34:46That's a good support. Yeah, exactly. Appreciate it. So I have two questions for you.
34:51First one might be an easy one. I lost Dylan Hurst to the injury, of course, and the medical issue.
34:57So I've been streaming. This week, do you start Kyler Murray, or should I just go pick up Kirk Cousins or like a Gino Smith as we start?
35:06I was more Kyler than you this week on the Ranks episode, Eric, and I feel like I couldn't get you going
35:13a little bit, but everything seems to be in a really good spot for him to jam.
35:18Kyler? Kyler. But I feel like he's been in good spots to jam, and he hasn't turned on the mic.
35:25He has not sung the songs that we want him to sing and jammed out.
35:30So you try, but you would go cut. I'm not, you know, I'm not doing I would go Cousins.
35:36I'm not doing Cousins. I think I think Cousins are not in the game.
35:40I told you we did this on tailgate. I think I think Mendoza could be the quarterback next week.
35:46I think Cousins can't finish. That's not this week.
35:49But I don't think I think Mendoza could play some this week.
35:53I'd rather I would go Gino before I go Cousins.
35:56But I'm going Kyler rushing upside is still there.
35:59So, I mean, he should be better. He 100% should be better.
36:02I agree. He's he's rushed for 39 yards, at least in the last two games.
36:07And he still has not been a top top 12 quarterback.
36:10I just Kirk Cousins leads the NFL in passing touchdowns.
36:14He's chasing the Jets. Oh, yeah, it is a six P six point touchdown.
36:18Oh, OK. That changes it a little bit. But I don't know.
36:22I'm that's a really tough one. Go with Erickson on.
36:25I like Kirk. I mean, I like Kirk. OK, he's bottom of my list there.
36:30Would you would you keep I also have Tyler Shuck.
36:33Would you even keep him going forward or would you just dream all the way with Sam Darnold or Bo Nix's of
36:40the world or even Cousins, I guess? Well, to Welsh's point, Kirk Cousins doesn't he may not have a lot of value rest of season.
36:48So, again, if you're looking for an answer rest of season, I think Darnold would actually be the best answer here because
36:55he's facing the Bears, which is a good matchup this week.
36:58And then you can kind of keep rolling with him.
37:01Whereas Cousins, you run to the issue of, OK, he was great this week, but now I need a new quarterback again
37:08because I I do agree with Welsh that this could be the last game that he plays.
37:13And if he does play bad, then Mendoza is going to be in the game.
37:18And once they go to Mendoza, there's no going back to Kirk Cousins.
37:22So if you want more of a long. Oh, yeah.
37:25Yeah. Sorry. I didn't jump on you. But yeah, Darnold.
37:29Yeah. Darnold, Gino, Gino has some tougher matchups, I think, after this week.
37:33But yeah, I wasn't going to long term Gino.
37:36I was going to Gino for this game. They got their pieces back.
37:40Bruce Hall does good in the passing game. They've got three viable receivers right now.
37:44Mason Taylor. Like, I think they're in a stride and the Raiders defense.
37:48Not great. And I mean, Gino just put up 200 plus and touchdown.
37:53Like, I actually think Gino is like a decent streaming option, but he's not a guy that I want to hold on to.
38:00I just have a hard time letting go of like a Kyler in this, even though he can be disappointing because the rushing up.
38:07It's the same vibe of like, you know, you have Malik Willis at like 12 this week.
38:13It's like, well, against Detroit, why can't Kyler, you know, run those little legs all around?
38:18I think rest of season, if you want to answer both those questions, Darnold has the Bears, Cardinals, Raiders next three weeks.
38:25Yeah, it's pretty beautiful. That is. So if we're kind of negligible on this week where like cousins, like Gino, like Darnold,
38:32I don't think any of us would be like, oh.
38:35No, this guy is clearly so much better. I think that they're all in the same tier.
38:40Welsh, would you agree? Kind of like pocket passer, streamer guys.
38:44But with Darnold, you have the additional more of a long-term asset.
38:47I think that would be the move to just get Darnold in there, ride him for the next couple games and then
38:54figure out quarterback in a couple of weeks. Did you have another one?
38:58I don't remember. I just had Shuck on my bench.
39:02So like, do you hold on to Shuck after his bye week?
39:05He could be a starter going forward or just pivot to a Darnold, which I was thinking of pivot to Darnold.
39:12Yeah, I think I'd pivot to Darnold. I think with all those guys, you just pivot.
39:17That was it. Okay, last question for you guys.
39:20Sorry, last question. If you had to cut a player, because I have Firebarn on.
39:25I need a kicker in this one. This league has a kicker.
39:28So I was trying to hold on to Firebarn.
39:31People say I'm crazy. But I need to cut a player to add a kicker this week.
39:37Would you cut Kamara? Who else do I have?
39:39Kamara, Marv, or just... Who was it? No, you got to cut the kicker.
39:44Like, I had the same thing. I had like Bates in a bunch of leagues.
39:49Just caught him. You got to cut the kicker.
39:51Doesn't matter who it is. A lot of times these kickers don't even get picked up anyway.
39:57Or I can cut Shuck. Because he's on bye anyway.
40:00That's actually funny. If it's important to you to keep the kicker, then, Chuck, we've already kind of determined.
40:06And if you're already going to let loose, you could do that.
40:10But like, I just let everybody know, I cut the kicker.
40:13Doesn't matter what high equity I've got. I mean, maybe in the Aubrey days of a couple years ago, that was a little bit of a different discussion.
40:22But there's nobody that I'm going to hold on to on a week-to-week bid.
40:26Please let somebody use a waiver wire priority on a kicker.
40:30Yeah, and a lot of the times, too, you can just cut them back.
40:34Yeah, I did. Because you may feel that you're prioritizing this kicker, but no one else in your league is actually paying
40:41attention to, oh, they dropped Will Riker. And I got to pick him up where he's just, people, no one has picked him up yet.
40:49Or something along those lines. So yeah, don't sweat over holding on to the kicker.
40:54But if you're going to dump Shuck anyway, then I think he'd be the guy that you can just dump off.
41:00Peace out, Shuck. All right, a couple more questions.
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41:48All right, let's try DeBears again. Yeah, see, DeBears, when I try to hit invite you to speak, it doesn't click.
41:55So I don't know if there's a setting and it's only you.
41:58So you must have a setting you've got to change to accept.
42:02We want to speak to you, but we cannot.
42:05So let's go to Catalyst. Hey, guys. Thanks for having me on.
42:09And I got to say, as far as the three wide receiver to be, I have it as Jerry Rice, Calvin Johnson, and Larry Fitzgerald.
42:17Larry. Oh, my God. No. Catalyst. Thank you. That, I knew there was, and you know what's so disgusting about that?
42:23Is Larry just got like inducted into the Arizona, you know, Cardinals Hall of Fame.
42:28And like, I used to work at Sports Radio out here in Phoenix when Larry was just coming up.
42:34And one of the most like graciously nice people, and he is still to this day.
42:39That's my number three. And I could not register it.
42:42Thank you. I mean, that's interesting. You don't have Randy in the top three.
42:47Larry is without question. My number three, because he was a great blocker early year.
42:51I mean, he really fell off in the later years on his route running and separation, but he was a great route runner.
42:58He was a great block. He was a complete wide receiver.
43:02No doubt. Number three. Good. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great hole.
43:05Larry Fitzgerald. I can't believe I didn't even, I'm just looking.
43:09Cause I didn't even know. I didn't even realize.
43:12So he is second all time in catches. He's second all time in yards.
43:16And he played for one team the entire time.
43:19Arizona Cardinals. He was absolutely incredible. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a great call out.
43:24Yeah. I just wish he had that ring. Gosh.
43:27Yeah. I mean, I'm Niner fan. I'm glad. Hey, Moss doesn't have a ring.
43:31Fitzgerald doesn't, or a T.O. doesn't have a ring.
43:34So Jerry Rice has like a million. You know, who's got quite a few rings.
43:39You know, who could, you know, who could give everybody a ring?
43:42Jerry Rice. He could give them all a ring and he'd still be flush with his, uh, with his four.
43:49Cause he, I think in 82 was the one.
43:51Yeah. So he's got four rings. Sorry, go ahead.
43:54Oh yeah. But thanks. So I wanted to touch base on as far as my, uh, rebuild dynasty.
44:00Um, so our drafts is decided by our max, uh, points for, and so far I'm at the bottoms, but I'm worried
44:07because my, uh, the second place is trending down really hard.
44:10And I feel like by end of year, he's going to get, um, one-on-one and I just, uh, stuck with one or two.
44:18So as far as things are right now, like, um, if it turns out like it's, I get one Oh two, one
44:25Oh six and one 11 for next year's draft.
44:27And I just want to know what's the best way to carry myself.
44:31Cause I just can't, I'll take, I'll take this guy.
44:35No, wait, what? I got lost on it. What, what's the best way to what, how to carry myself through the rest
44:42of the season, just cause this is a guy I can't out tank.
44:46Oh, and also I'd rather. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
44:48Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know you're totally, you're, you're tipping, you're tipping, towing around this issue of like, you want to
44:55suck bad, but you can't like tank. You can't like not set your lineups and stuff like that.
45:01I mean, I would say the best way is to put guys like Travion Henderson and Jalen Waddle in your lineup.
45:08That's the best way to not score points and, and, and not be competitive whatsoever.
45:12Maybe guys like JK Dobbins, but yeah, I mean, I don't like, that's a really, really tough one.
45:18You gotta, you gotta make the wrong decisions. You gotta go in the crazy streaming stuff.
45:23How could you tank without like showing your tanking Erickson besides getting Jalen Waddle?
45:28Just tune into the rank show with me, Welsh and Fitz.
45:31We'll take your team right away. Um, obviously just joking around.
45:34I would say, man, I hate this mindset where you're trying to lose, but he wants to feel so one, one baby.
45:41I know, but is the one, one, is it just Jeremiah Smith?
45:45Is that, is that the lock? But aren't there like a lot of quarterbacks in this class?
45:51What if it's super flex, baby? Jeremiah Smith, Jeremiah Smith.
45:54Sorry, Jeremiah love. I don't want Jeremiah love. Then stank.
45:57Well, then maybe trade the one Oh two then for Jeremiah love right now.
46:01I don't know. We can't. He wants, he's trying to get the one on one.
46:06Or did he say, and you gotta lose harder.
46:09I don't, I don't really know how to give advice here where maybe trade all your best players to the teams that
46:16the other team is facing and try to get their teams better.
46:20Oh, maybe look at like really tough matchups for like the playoffs, like the next run and try to get those players out there.
46:27That's a tough one. I mean, I gotta be honest with you.
46:31That's a very unique question of like, how do I suck more without showing that I'm doing it?
46:37And it's just like, you gotta, you gotta put out the questionable lineups, but you gotta start your line.
46:43You got, you gotta have a good league. I do it.
46:46No, it's funny too, because you could probably put up a lineup.
46:50Like I did last week in the Yahoo in our insiders league, where I had to start Darnell Washington and Sean Tucker.
46:57Guess we both scored touchdowns last week. You didn't quite do on that.
47:01That's our, the tags league. Yeah. Tags league. Yeah.
47:04Yeah. Where? I think. Yeah. I beat Alan. I beat Alan.
47:07I have to say Alan. Alan. I think you and I are both, because I won last week too.
47:13I think we're both near the top or not the top, but like we're both in like the playoff hunt, which is very, very important.
47:21We, unfortunately, I don't think worm is with us.
47:24All right. Uh, let's, we got a couple more here.
47:27I'm going to save the bears for last to see if he's got that fixed.
47:32Let's go to Scott. Scott's been waiting. What's up, Scott.
47:35Hey, how's it going guys? How are you doing?
47:38No, I'm all right. Um, I should be worse than I am actually probably based on my records.
47:43I'm one in six. Uh, it's a redraft league.
47:46It's PPR. And I'm kind of having a hard time getting around this, uh, trade that I was thinking about offering to the guy.
47:54Uh, he wants JT and Parker Washington. I have just to lay out my, my running backs and receivers.
48:00I have JT, Jordan Mason, Blake Corum, Kaylon brought black as my running backs.
48:04And then Nico Collins, Parker Washington, Jalen Coker, and Latin McConkie.
48:08I have a couple other ones on the bench, but, uh, they're more further down the line.
48:13Those are the valuable ones. I want your two best.
48:16He wants, he wants, yeah. So he won't, well, not my two best players.
48:20He wants, well, actually it depends on who you ask.
48:24Cause I would consider them my two best players.
48:26He wants JT and Parker Washington. Yeah. And I'm really hesitant to give up Washington because of what I think is going to happen down the stretch.
48:35Um, but I do need some running back depth because I have zero pretty much beyond Jordan Mason, JT.
48:41Uh, so he was thinking about, he, he offered me Kyron Williams, Quinshawn Judkins and, uh, Matthew Golden.
48:47And I said, no. And then I told him afterwards, I'd think about sending another offer.
48:52My only issue is after I looked at, uh, Kyron Williams and Jacobs by week, they both have 11 or week, 11 by weeks.
48:59So my two best running backs were, would be on by, and then probably my second best receiver would be on by, and I can't lose another game.
49:08You can't afford another game. So I'm really wrapping my head around whether I should actually send it to him.
49:14Or should I just stay with JT and Parker Washington?
49:18I mean, I don't think you should stay. You're one in six.
49:21I don't think you should stay with anything, but you get, I've been trying to make trades the whole time.
49:28Oh, could you? No one will. Could you trade JT for Kyron and Golden?
49:32No, he wants Parker Washington too. He's selfish. Well then, but you won't get, you won't get, take Judkins out of the deal.
49:39So like, he's not a partner anymore. Right. Right.
49:42He, he wants Parker Washington in that trade. Does he have another running back or is he just, those are his two starters.
49:49There's baseball too. He's got baseball tootin, but I doubt, I really doubt he would trade him because he traded for him a couple of weeks ago.
49:58I mean, screw this guy. He, he needs to trade.
50:01If he wants Parker Washington and JT, I think Kyron tootin and Golden is what you should fight for.
50:07You say, this is what I'm doing. Yeah. Erickson.
50:10All right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Uh, the bears.
50:13Oh, did that work this time? No, I don't think it works.
50:16Poor the bears. What's, what is your question to bear?
50:20Put it in the chat so we can answer it before.
50:23I think that they did. Okay. Let's where, where is it?
50:27It's getting sad now that we can't get trying to figure out what to do with wide receiver and flex attaches.
50:33Which is my roster league context, trying to figure, waivers, Kendrick Bourne, Chris, Chris Rodriguez, Lloyd, Samson.
50:38Okay. So this is just like a theory question.
50:41Um, he's starting Jameson. He's saying lane and lemon.
50:44So two rookie receivers that are in it. Wide receiver and flex because his bench, he's got a dunes.
50:50A bench and Coleman on his bench. Um, I get benching a dude.
50:54I mean, he's facing the Seahawks. So I don't, I would have a dunes over to Kobe lane though, but that's me.
51:01Um, I mean, I'm, I, I'm pretty indifferent with, with that in particular, Jonah Coleman on the bench.
51:07Yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, actually, you mean, yeah, like, Oh, dunes, they probably want to start over lane.
51:13That's what the star system is also saying to play a dunes.
51:17They over lane lane. And no, dunes is definitely gonna be ranked higher than lane is.
51:22So I think I'd probably change that. You're also the bears.
51:25You're going to fade your own team with Roma dunes.
51:29Hey, after all those great catches he made again, the drop in the end zone was terrible, but then he should be locked.
51:36They should be paying attention to burden, heavy attention to burden.
51:39This is a good, a dunes a spot. Yeah.
51:42So a dunes a in at receiver. Would you do a lemon or lane then?
51:47And in the, a flex. If Devonta Smith is active, I, I, I mean, it seems like he's got a little connection
51:54going with the key, which is not nothing. I think it's probably a job.
51:58I'm not a hundred percent sold. Like Jacobi lane makes these awesome, cool plays, but I'm not a hundred percent sold.
52:05Like because Lamar Jackson's going to go in, he's going to see a big target share.
52:10Like the Mars going to just stare at flowers all day.
52:13And that's going to be, I would agree. And then no one on waivers is doing it for you.
52:19Born Rodriguez, Lloyd, Samson, QJ Bateman, born. It's interesting, but not more than the guys that you have.
52:25So that's, I think who's a starting tight end.
52:28He's got Goddard in there. That's yeah. It's a high strength tight end.
52:32So yeah, I think, yeah, it could be a lemon and a doon.
52:36Okay. Final one here. Frankie. What's up, Frankie. Come on down.
52:39Maybe. All right. What's up, dude. How you doing guys?
52:43Hold on. I have a question. Why is your logo, the Cowboys, the Rams and the Seahawks, like meshed painting together?
52:49So I do a, that's from Chad, Chad TVC.
52:52I, I run two Madden leagues and I'm in a third.
52:56So I kind of like have it all meshed together.
52:59So they know who I am. Oh, okay. So it's not an only franchise.
53:03I just needed to know. I'm like, what's the connection with the, I saw the Rams and the Seahawks.
53:09I was like, I'm a Cowboys fan personally. You see, I am a Cowboys fan personally, but I hate to say it out loud, but yeah.
53:17All right. Sorry. So now, now that I have your question.
53:21So I got two questions in my, my, you know, my standard PPR, a big league, I call it.
53:27And I have a super flex question as well, but my standard league, people, it's not standards PPR, but it's my big league.
53:34I have Braylon Allen. Do I keep riding Allen or do I, I'm not sure the Eagles backfield situation.
53:40I do have Mitchell. I picked up just for, to get to giggles.
53:44And then I also have Dylan Sampson. But besides that, that's all I have at running back this week.
53:50Cause Scott of booze out on by, but he's like literally my number two right now.
53:55Scott of boo. But, and then the next question would be, would you, would you start bright and strange?
54:01I flex or Antonio, it's Antonio Williams from the, the rookie receiver from, you know, the commanders.
54:06Yeah. The Frank, Frankie dropping like Frankie, this is early.
54:10I absolutely would have dumped you from this call.
54:12Frank, you absolutely cursed on this, which you cannot do.
54:16But that's Braylon Allen. Yeah. That's easy. And strange this week.
54:19You don't, you have my father. I do love strange this week.
54:23Colts are terrible against tight ends. He's been more involved the last couple of games.
54:28I also really like Antonio Williams too. So I am slightly torn here, but I think I will go with strange.
54:34I think Antonio Williams is my play this week.
54:37No, I have questioned myself that I do wonder if Traylon Burks, yeah, if Traylon Burks is going to do the McLaurin
54:44thing, and then nothing really changes with Williams. That's what I'm a little bit concerned about.
54:49That couldn't Burks. Does that mean just he gets the Quinion Mitchell treatment and just gets kind of like sacrificed?
54:55Yeah, no, a hundred percent. Yeah. Like what the Cardinals were doing, like Jalen Brooks and stuff like that.
55:01A hundred percent. I think that is a likely, but I just don't know.
55:06I just, I'm not a hundred percent sure, but Antonio Williams is like the best player there.
55:11So I kind of want to vibe on him.
55:14Has he moved in ECR since we did our show?
55:17Cause I know he was really, really well. I'm just kind of curious.
55:21He was 36 at one point. He is now, gee, he moved down, dude.
55:2640. He moved down to 30. Why does he keep moving?
55:29What are we missing here? He just keeps going down.
55:32Yeah. Are we missing something here? On Tuesday, he was 36.
55:36Wednesday, he went to 39. Now this is Thursday.
55:38He's 40. He keeps going down. I, why? I don't get it, man.
55:43I don't either. Am I, are we misreading the situation?
55:46Are we taking crazy bills? I don't know. I'm going to go Antonio Williams.
55:50All right. That's going to be. This is, this is how we get all in the top threes.
55:56We all rank Antonio Williams. Williams top 24. We just lock and load.
56:00There we go. All right. Matt, how's stuff? Reminder.
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