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0:11It's split into two different episodes. Erickson, how are you doing here into Week 4?
0:15Excited. Breaking down more of these buys and sells for the trade market.
0:19Interesting Monday Night Football game we're coming off of where Case Keenum, you know, that line never really made sense to me
0:25in terms of why is it only the Bears?
0:27I think it closed around three points, and this is why.
0:31Because the Bears just demolished the Philadelphia Eagles, despite the fact they were playing their third string quarterback Case Keenum.
0:36But it just goes to show that coaching matters and Ben Johnson, what he was able to cook up this week against
0:43the Vic Fangio defense that we thought was good, has not really been that good through first three weeks of the season.
0:49Even Eagles fans, I mean, Mike Mayer, how are we feeling with the Eagles through three games where I believe they're 0-3
0:55against the spread, let the Commanders hang around, they almost lost to the tight ends, and then obviously losing here on Monday
1:02Night Football against the Chicago Bears, who, man, they were able to do a lot of things offensively.
1:07Colston Loveland almost scored a touchdown, but of course he didn't, because why would we have nice things happen to us?
1:13But Luther Burden, again, very productive, and I guess Kalief Raymond is just going to be a thing all year.
1:18Worm. I guess that's like really the big main takeaway where, no, this is not a fugazi with him, because he just continues to produce in this offense.
1:26Six catches, 90 yards, and another touchdown. Obviously, Burden led the way with the Bears.
1:31So those are my initial reactions to the game we just saw on Monday Night Football.
1:35What about you? Yeah, it's interesting. Like, it's one of those, like, how long into the season until you just admit, like,
1:42you know, Kalief Raymond is a thing. Like, how long into year 10 of a guy's career do you need to decide, oh, he's actually really good?
1:49I don't know what the answer to that is.
1:52He did go to the medical tent during the game.
1:55He came back into the game, just to mention that.
1:58Yeah, this is another one of those. So, as you know, I play softball this time of year, and we have doubleheaders on Monday.
2:04So for a couple more weeks, I won't be able to watch all of Monday Night Football.
2:09I did catch most of the second half of this one.
2:12By the time we got to, like, the fourth quarter, it was basically like this game is a foregone conclusion.
2:18And it just felt like everybody was running out of the clock at that point, basically.
2:23It's funny, because if you had told me before the game that the Bears were going to win by 20, I would
2:29have said, oh, DeAndre Swift and Kamenunga ran all over them.
2:32Like, that is clearly the path to this happening.
2:35That isn't what happened. It was Case Keenum. There was a very funny post we put on our Betting Pros Instagram and TikTok.
2:41Shouts to Tyler behind the scenes who put it together of the scene in Top Gun Maverick, where Maverick, Tom Cruise's character,
2:48is kind of being the old man flying against all the young kids in the sky in the training session.
2:53And he's just absolutely toasting them in their training period.
2:56And that was basically what happened here. Case Keenum, the old vet, just kind of comes back onto the field first time
3:03in a while and just is roasting the other team.
3:05He looked awesome. That was kind of fun to see from him.
3:09And I'm sure it was really enjoyable for him and for Ben Johnson.
3:13I think the bigger takeaway for me here is just Eagles related.
3:16Like, it's less what level of excitement is there for the Bears in fantasy and more what level of concern is there for the Eagles.
3:23Like, Saquon isn't bad. He averaged five and a half yards per carry, but, like, the offensive line isn't that good.
3:29They're not scoring a lot of points, so he's not getting a lot of touchdown opportunities.
3:34Jalen Hurts obviously has been, like, pretty up and down this season and a lot of down, frankly.
3:39Like, I still think Devontae Smith is really good, but just, like, not a lot of needle movers on this team in
3:45a way that I expected there to be more of them, Erickson.
3:49Yeah, we haven't really seen this Eagles offense take off yet in the Sean Mannion era.
3:53Now it's only three games in and there's always time to improve, but we have not really seen this Hurts throwing over
3:59the middle of the field operation work, where that's something that was obviously going to be a big change with this offense and has not come to fruition.
4:07Now, do you want to layer on the kind of weird game scenario that happened last night if you didn't watch the game?
4:14So Jalen Hurts had to be checked in the medical blue tent because he took a hit and they had to double
4:20check to make sure he didn't get a concussion.
4:23Didn't look like he got a concussion, but from upstairs they said, hey, we got to protect the players.
4:28So that forced Andy Dalton into the game at, I believe, the one yard line, right at the goal line.
4:34And, of course, on his one pass attempts, he gets picked off.
4:38And Nick Sirianni is like freaking out on the sidelines because he wanted to get Jalen Hurts back in the game, obviously,
4:44because when you have Hurts and you're at the one yard line, that's the play you want.
4:49There's a certain play that you want to run more often than not that usually results in a touchdown.
4:54So I think that did kind of shift how that game was played.
4:58Obviously, what the Bears did offensively, the Eagles didn't have anything to stop them.
5:02But I think maybe we could have got a much closer game had Hurts not had to miss that play and Dalton got intercepted.
5:09But overall, yeah, Bears dominated. I think the fact that their defense was able to do this, I don't know.
5:14That's more about their defense maybe being a little bit better.
5:18I mean, two straight weeks. I get the weather was a big factor in the Vikings game, but the Vikings offense did
5:24not necessarily look amazing against the Bears. And obviously, this game as well, the Eagles offense did not take off in any way, shape or form.
5:31So maybe the Bears defense, maybe not totally buns cheeks.
5:34At least they played better the last two weeks.
5:37So those are some of the other takeaways for me.
5:40I mean, Barkley, just before we get off this game, is he a sell candidate where you're just looking at like, hey, coming off a OK game?
5:47Obviously, it's a prime time spot, but still 15 carries for 82 yards.
5:51No receiving to be like, again, another game where he's not involved in the passing game.
5:56One catch for negative two yards on two targets.
5:58I feel like he has name equity and he's not coming off like a totally terrible game.
6:03Obviously, the 82 rushing yards. But would he be a sell high candidate or just a sell candidate because you can probably
6:09get a decent chunk for a Barkley, especially to a manager that needs a running back?
6:14First of all, this is the second straight show where we're describing somebody as not being very good.
6:19You have said buns and cheeks. You keep being unable to decide between the two.
6:23I think Saquon is a very, very solidified hold.
6:26I don't know if I would rather buy or sell.
6:29And to me, that's a good sign. Like the buying will be not based on anything we've seen this year.
6:35It would just be based on the name value and the equity and trust that this organization has built up over time.
6:41They're not showing it right now. But on principle, I sort of get the case for buying Saquon low right now.
6:47I also get the case for selling off of, you know, one of the – it's basically the same game he had in week one.
6:54But, you know, pseudo best game of the season and trying to just kind of get out while there is still some of that name rent.
7:01I get that case too. So to me, I kind of split the difference.
7:05It just – I feel like he's a hold right now for me.
7:09Yeah. Other notes as well. So Burden scored a touchdown on like a pitch pass.
7:13It actually looked like a rushing attempt on first watch, but it actually was credited as a pass.
7:19Raymond ripped off a big play to score his touchdown.
7:21Loveland was down to basically the one-yard line. So he almost scored.
7:25And then Roman Dunzei dropped a touchdown where it was right in his bread basket.
7:29Case Keenan made like this great throw and Dunzei bobbled it.
7:32So those are the other updates from Monday night.
7:35Let's jump into our running backs that we are definitely looking to buy here.
7:39We'll start with whoever you have on the list.
7:41I need to pull it back up. Okay, yes, I remember now who you're talking about.
7:46Who are you looking to buy right now, Erickson?
7:49He was my buy after week one. It's Bayshel Tootin for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
7:53I just like what I've seen out of Tootin over the first three weeks of the season.
7:57Now it hasn't popped off any of these like insanely big games, but just been really, really steady.
8:03This last game against the New England Patriots, rushed 15 times for 73 yards.
8:07Also scored a touchdown. Shout out to Trevor Lawrence for taking the knee so that Bayshel Tootin's fantasy majors could get the end zone touchdown.
8:14So also had two catches for 17 yards on two targets.
8:17So we're starting to see him just continue to put together solid outings week after week, but not to a point where
8:23he's untouchable in terms of looking to acquire him with a trade.
8:27You look at this matchup on the road in week four against Cincinnati Bengals.
8:31Who do we just see just go off against Cincinnati?
8:34Jalen Warren, right? Having a career game against this type of defense.
8:37You have the Eagles. That's the week five matchup.
8:40How good are they? How good is their defense?
8:42Remains to be seen. So it's not like the schedule that is pushing the narrative for me to buy Tootin, but just
8:48the fact that I think that he's a really good player.
8:52And he's kind of checking off the boxes of what it looked like for a year to break out at the running back position.
8:58It's not perfect. Chris Rodriguez still kind of shows up when it comes to red zone and third and short.
9:04So that's going to be something that Tootin has to deal with kind of all year.
9:09But when it comes to who's ripping off big runs, who is involved in the passing game and who still does see
9:15some red zone equity in an offense that we're really excited about.
9:18I feel like Basial Tootin, not enough people are talking about what this guy could potentially be for the rest of the
9:25season as a worst, a top 24 running back, if not potentially top 15.
9:29If he starts getting some better matchups, more involved in the passing game.
9:32So again, last week, 48% snap share, top Jacksonville's running back room by a wired margin.
9:37And I just don't think I've seen anything from Chris Rodriguez that suggests to me that, oh, Tootin is like going to lose his job.
9:44Like I feel threatened by Chris Rodriguez, LaQuinn Allen, Amir Abdullah, any of these guys.
9:48It's Tootin's backfield. And I think that's been really clear for the first three weeks.
9:53And the coaches have echoed that they're continuing to see him build off strong week after strong week.
9:58And eventually that's going to end up creating and cultivating into a massive performance for Tootin.
10:03You said, you know, definitely inside top 24, possibly inside top 15.
10:06He's sort of splitting that difference. He's RB 18 right now in the consensus rest of season rankings on fantasypros.com.
10:12Um, I feel like that's a pretty fair ranking.
10:14I wonder where you have him more specifically, like the names ahead of him.
10:18Obviously, Brees Hall is injury related. So maybe he'll move down depending on how long that quad injury actually lingers.
10:24And that's like Bucky Irving or Marion Hampton. If you still want to hold out hope Jeremiah Love, who looked good last week.
10:31DeAndre Swift, Kyron Williams, Yvante Williams. That's moving up.
10:33So like, I don't feel like a lot of those names.
10:36I want to make an impassionate case for him being ahead of.
10:40And then behind him, you know, Cam Scadaboo, Chuba Hubbard.
10:43That feels like the right names to be near.
10:45And then beyond that, it's like he's clearly ahead of, you know, David Montgomery, Travion Henderson, Jalen Warren.
10:50He just mentioned, I feel like, Quinshon Judkins. So to me, like 20th is about the lowest you could have him.
10:56But I feel like maybe 16th or 17th is about the highest.
11:00The back half of that 15 to 20 range feels like the right spot to me.
11:04Where do you have him ranked? I'm trying to pull up my rankings right now, but my internet is not cooperating with me.
11:11And to help the YouTube watchers not have me go through serious lag, I have him somewhere in that range, right?
11:17Top 18, et cetera range. I think that I have him ahead of Hampton at this point because I've seen enough of
11:23this Chargers offense where Hampton has no role in the receiving game.
11:27And I would rather much take a shot on another second year running back that through the first three weeks, who's been better, right?
11:33Not even close. It's been based all to an, in my opinion, overall, Marion Hampton.
11:38So I think that's an opportunity where you could flip a player where Hampton obviously comes with higher draft equity and draft capital.
11:44And he hasn't been terrible in every single game he's played.
11:48But Tootin, I think it's just the trajectory is trending up and I want to get on the tugboat before he pops,
11:54which could easily be here in week four if you get the bad Bengals defense for a second straight week.
12:00I don't disagree with Tootin as a pick here, to be clear.
12:03Just to push back a little bit, I would also just point out, like, I guess I kind of would have expected
12:09a bigger day against the Patriots with how much they were up as long in that game as they were up.
12:15Like, you would think, okay, lean on the run to wind down the clock.
12:19And, you know, if he didn't, if Trevor Lawrence didn't go down at the one, we're looking at a game where he
12:26had, like, 70 yards, no touchdown while the team was leading by a ton.
12:30Do you feel like usage-wise, like, you're talking about this being an offense that you're excited about.
12:34If this ends up being, like, if this is more of a passing game offense than a running game offense and he's
12:41sort of splitting work with Rodriguez and closing out games, then are you a little nervous that, like, he's going to be a touchdown dependent?
12:48Because he has kind of been touchdown dependent to have a ceiling so far this season.
12:52It's only three games. You know, I know you mentioned, like, the two catchers for 17 yards.
12:57He's had five total targets this season. So it's not like there's been a ton of usage in the passing game.
13:03And he has been between 65 and 73 rushing yards in each game.
13:07So the two games where he's been inside the top 12 of the position and half PPR scoring is because he's gotten
13:13into the red zone, or excuse me, into the end zone.
13:16The game where he wasn't, where he was outside the top 24 was the game he didn't score a touchdown.
13:22So, like, not that he's touchdown or bust, but does he feel like touchdown or bust relative to having a ceiling week to week to you?
13:30I think that's a good way to spin it.
13:32I don't think he's going to have these top 12 types of weeks unless he probably scores.
13:37Because, yeah, his receiving is not amazing. It's enough to kind of get by.
13:41Again, two catches here for 17 yards on two targets.
13:44But it's still clearly ahead of the other guys on the roster.
13:47Like, Chris Rodriguez is a total zero in the receiving game.
13:51Under on his catching prop is free money every single week if the books continue to post .5 reception for Chris Rodriguez because he never catches passes.
13:58So, I'm just expecting that his yardage is going to continue to be stable.
14:02I mean, the fact that he's rushed for, what, you said 65 yards in three straight games?
14:07I'd be kind of curious to see what other running backs have actually done that this season.
14:12And every single game hit at least 65 rushing yards besides probably most of the elite guys.
14:17And then Basial Tutu will probably be thrown into that conversation, which I think is kind of interesting.
14:22But I don't think the touchdowns are going to go away because he does still see chances in the red zone.
14:28And although this game he did not get the garbage time running out the clock type of usage, he did see that
14:34workload in week one with the Cleveland Browns. So, it's not like it's out of his range of outcomes or out of
14:41his role where he won't see carries in fourth quarter to run out the clock on some of these battered, you know, worse defenses and worse teams.
14:48So, I just like what I've seen from the players so far this year.
14:52And I think right now he's not viewed as this untouchable asset where so many teams need running back help.
14:58Like, this is a player I want to go for, especially if you have a lot of receivers, right?
15:03You have receivers popping off on your bench. Who can I flip to maybe get a running back?
15:09I think Tutu is that guy for me. Yeah, I think it's fair.
15:12Let's go to my running back to buy. I actually sort of had two names here, Erickson.
15:17I want you to help me pick who's the better one.
15:20One is higher up in the rankings, a bigger name.
15:23The other one is a lot lower in the rankings.
15:26The higher up ranking one is Chase Brown. And he's somebody who is ranked inside the top 10 in the consensus rest of season rankings.
15:33He's RB9. I really just wanted to kind of highlight him.
15:36And I actually messaged you last night when I was working on this sheet and said, I don't really want to buy
15:43a lot of running backs right now. I feel like, A, it's just not that exciting of a position outside of the
15:49names that nobody would be willing to trade. And B, the market prices, at least when you look at the consensus rest
15:55of season rankings, seem pretty fair to me. That's also true of Chase Brown.
15:59But the reason I want to bring him up is that I really feel like we've been seeing his floor so far this season.
16:06He's been, and this is in half PPR scoring, RB14, RB22, and RB30 in the first three games.
16:11But I'm not worried about the usage. I'm not worried about this offense long term.
16:16There's going to be, I think, some touchdown regression to the mean.
16:19He only has one so far this season. That was back in week one.
16:23I just feel like the Bengals are a good offense.
16:26And I think the touchdown opportunities are going to come.
16:29He has 16 carries in week one, 20 in week two, 13 in week three.
16:33He has 13 targets on the season, including six and five, respectively, in the first two games.
16:38I just think the point totals are going to be higher going forward.
16:42It's also been a really tough start to the season in terms of the defenses that they've been playing.
16:47Now, a team like Houston hasn't been as good as maybe as we expected them to be.
16:52But you look from a running back schedule standpoint, first four weeks, obviously the fourth one hasn't happened yet.
16:57For the first four weeks, Tampa Bay at Houston, at Pittsburgh, and then Jacksonville this week.
17:02That is as tough of a run out against, you know, a run defenses as you might have imagined any running back could have this season.
17:09And I think the fact that he has this Jags game coming up plays into your favor.
17:14If you're trying to buy him, you can say, look, he's struggled against three teams already.
17:19If you drafted him, you probably took him really high, like early second round.
17:23And therefore, he's carrying a lot of weight for your team.
17:26If your team is 1-2 or 0-3, you might be like, man, can we afford to have one of our best players
17:32going up against another really tough run defense in Jacksonville?
17:35I think that plays into your favor if you're trying to buy him.
17:39But really, this is a buy medium, right? It's not a buy high or a buy low.
17:44I just kind of think what we've seen given the usage and the offense that he's in is more of his floor.
17:50And the schedule lightens up the rest of the season after week four.
17:54Easiest schedule of all time. It's not a whole bunch of cakewalk defenses.
17:57But it's a lot easier compared to, again, Bucs at Houston, at Steelers, Jacksonville.
18:01I don't know why I was mixing up mascots and city names there.
18:05But the point is that I think the schedule does look a lot easier going forward.
18:10And I think it's just a good player who's going to continue to get really good usage.
18:15So that's my Chase Brown case. Why don't you react to that before I give you the case for the other player?
18:21I love this call by you. I'm glad that it came to you last night when you're putting the show sheet together
18:27that, oh, I need to advocate for buying Chase Brown.
18:30I talked about Chase Brown on the trade live stream last week for a lot of the reasons you outlined where he's
18:36had tough matchups to start the year. But he has still been productive.
18:40The touchdowns have not been there for him. But we know this offense, especially as the season progresses, starts to cook.
18:46So I think that Chase Brown is definitely one of these medium buy players where he's just not super top of mind.
18:52And I think for me, it's always going back to players that we know can achieve top tier fantasy status, which we
18:59saw from last year with Chase Brown. But they're not top of mind because the production hasn't been there so far this year.
19:05So if the Chase Brown manager in your league isn't happy with what Chase Brown's been doing, then yeah, I think that
19:12there's definitely a case to be made where he can be bought.
19:15Not buy low per se, but hey, he's acquireable.
19:18Like he's attainable, which a lot of times when if you try to strike up a trade for like Jameer Gibbs or B.J.
19:24Robinson, they're just going to be like, no, I don't want to trade my elite player.
19:29So Chase Brown obviously has not ascended to that elite status so far this season, but you kind of laid out the
19:35reasons why things are going to improve as the season progresses, which I could not agree with more.
19:40The Bengals have one of the easiest schedules in the NFL remainder of the season.
19:44That was what when we were looking at a lot of the betting stuff in the offseason, that was something that really pointed out to me.
19:52But we knew that it was going to be more backloaded than frontloaded after we looked at the opening schedule.
19:58So I also would add in to that's much of hearing did get banged up towards the end of the last game the Bengals played.
20:05And if for some reason this injury is worse, then you could see Chase Brown's role really skyrocket because we know that
20:11he's kind of stuck in this 70 percent, 30 percent snap share split with P.
20:15Ryan plays on third downs. But to your point about listing off how good Brown has still been and involved, he's been in the passing game.
20:23It's because they throw it to him on early downs.
20:26So it's not really hurting him that he doesn't play every single snap, doesn't play on third downs.
20:31But it would be a major boost if P.
20:33Ryan were to miss time or something along those lines.
20:36So I agree. Chase Brown, always a bye. Hey, it's Ashanti Plummer from Futter Round and Find Out.
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22:50Also, just his fantasy playoff schedule, weeks 15 to 17, Carolina, Indianapolis, and Baltimore.
22:54Those aren't the three easiest running defenses in the world, but those are teams you can run on.
22:59Also, too, I would say this might be the last chance you can buy him because who do the Bengals play in week five for him?
23:06Dolphins. Yep. Because, again, if he has any semblance of a good game, the door is shut to buy Chase Brown.
23:12So this is probably your last week. So this is why we brought it up.
23:16This is why we had to come to the table with Chase Brown because next week it's going to be like, well,
23:23you can't get Chase Brown when he's facing the Dolphins.
23:26That's not going to work. So the other name that I was thinking, just kind of looking lower as like even more
23:32acquirable just because they'll be a lot cheaper, is Jordan Mason.
23:35It looked like he was going to get some pretty good usage on the ground.
23:3915 carries, you know, in week one. Obviously, injury pops up and he's on IR.
23:44Didn't seem like it's going to be like a super long-term IR issue, right?
23:48It's a thumb issue. It's not like it's a knee or, you know, anything in the legs that should impact his running too much.
23:54And Aaron Jones is fine. He's doing okay stepping in.
23:57But like I almost consider Aaron Jones as a sell for today's episode.
24:01Like so if I'm – and I didn't pick him as that.
24:04But if I am thinking of him in that lens, well, somebody on this team is probably worth buying then.
24:10And to me, that's Jordan Mason. When he comes back, I expect him to get most of the work on the ground.
24:16And this defense is really, really good. So even if the offense is up and down with Kyler Murray and, you know,
24:23when Carson Wentz is in there, obviously they traded away J.J.
24:26McCarthy. McCarthy, I do think this will be a team that wants to rely on the ground game.
24:31And the defense might keep them in a lot of games to the point where whoever is leading the, you know, backfield,
24:37not even committee, just whoever is leading this backfield, I think could get a lot of pretty, you know, compelling usage.
24:43So I want to throw him out because he's still injured.
24:47So if you're trading with a team that has him on IR and that team is 1-2 or 0-3, they're like, well, listen, we need wins now.
24:54So we're willing to move a guy who's hurt right now.
24:57You know, deal, I think you can get him.
25:00Unfortunately, he's not going to play this week because they get Miami hit this week.
25:04That would be a nice one. But they have a really, really nice schedule throughout the rest of the season in terms
25:11of, you know, rushing defenses that they're facing. So I do think Jordan Mason, as a guy, you could maybe get him
25:17added into part of a larger trade. Or if you just want to throw something cheap for a manager who needs a
25:23win this week and can't use him because he's still injured, I think that's, it's more on the margins than Chase Brown
25:29is, but I think it's a smart move. I agree.
25:32And I think that the nuance behind acquiring someone like Mason or selling Aaron Jones is also very dependent on what your team needs, right?
25:39If you're 0-2, it doesn't make a lot of sense to trade away Aaron Jones when he's facing the Dolphins this week, right?
25:46Because you need his production. Whereas if you are 2-0 and you're looking towards the long game here with Jordan Mason as
25:52I would expect him, I agree with you, that he's going to be the bell cow running back when he returns from his injury.
25:59And I think, too, buying players when they're injured is always kind of risky business because you never know what's going to happen with these types of players.
26:07But when it comes to Mason and his specific injury, he's a thumb injury, right?
26:12So you're not worried about like, oh man, he's got the soft tissue thing, like he's going to re-injure his hamstring, etc.
26:18That's not really the case. It's like, he's fine.
26:20He just can't squeeze the football right now because he has an injured thumb.
26:24So I think that he's going to get back to his bell cow duties that we were being sold in the offseason
26:31that Mason was going to be the leading rusher for this team.
26:34And the only reason they're overloading Aaron Jones right now is because they know they're getting Jordan Mason back in a couple weeks.
26:41So I think that this Aaron Jones workload is not sustainable whatsoever, especially for a player like Aaron.
26:46I mean, he barely made it through the first game last week before hurting his knee.
26:50Obviously had another productive outing in terms of his raw touches.
26:54I think that the production itself may be left a little to be desired like you kind of alluded to.
26:59So yeah, I think that Mason and Jones should be viewed kind of similarly in terms of their rest of season ranking.
27:06But it's all about what do you need now with your specific roster in terms of I need to win today.
27:12I need to win this week. Give me Aaron Jones.
27:14But if I can shelf some trade to get a player like Jordan Mason for the long term, I think that makes a lot of sense.
27:22So who's the better by Chase Brown or Jordan Mason?
27:25Who should have been my choice? I mean, I think that Chase Brown is like the sexy name, of course.
27:30But Jordan Mason, I think, is like that sneaky by low that no one's going to like bat an eye about like
27:37if that trade goes down on the wire, right?
27:39No one's going to be like, oh, which no one's going to post a social thing about massive trade.
27:45Jordan Mason just went down in my league. What's going to happen?
27:48That won't happen. But if Chase Brown gets dealt.
27:51Oh, yeah, that's going to that's going to generate some clicks.
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28:30Erickson, who is your running back to sell? We're going to go with a generic price running back for the Seattle Seahawks.
28:36So we've seen some good from price over the first couple of weeks of the season.
28:41We've also seen some bad from Jerry Price over the first couple of weeks of the season, most notably with the fumbles.
28:47So he is clearly showing a fumble issue. It happened in the most recent game for the Seattle Seahawks, which they lost due in part to turnovers, right?
28:55That was a big role in the collapse that they had against the Washington Commanders.
28:59Price fumbled early into that game. And we really didn't see him that much after he fumbled.
29:04So I know the coaches have been kind of playing coy about like, was this disciplinary that we benched Jerry and Price
29:11that he wasn't seeing as many touches? I think it's pretty self-explanatory that that's exactly kind of what they did.
29:16If you look at after his fumble, he had two carries.
29:19He finished with a 27% snap share. The lightest workload of the Seattle running backs between Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani.
29:25And the whole thesis on the Jerry and Price play was Zach Charbonnet is on the shelf with this injury.
29:31Price as a rookie, a first round pick has the opportunity to carve himself out the role as, hey, I'm the RB1
29:37in this offense, given the opportunity to start the year.
29:40And through three weeks, it's really just been the committee nonsense, even though Price has looked good when he's actually been rushing the football.
29:47But everything else is not helping us for fantasy football purposes.
29:50So it feels like Groundhog Day again with the Seahawks offense where, yeah, Price is definitely the best running back in terms
29:57of rusher of the football on Seattle. But he's not getting the opportunities to score fantasy points.
30:02Specifically, just like last year with Ken Walker and Zach Charbonnet is who's not on the field and red zone opportunities for the most part.
30:09It's not Jadarian Price, whether it's Emmanuel Wilson, George Helani, these other guys are eating into that red zone work.
30:14This is according to next gen stats. If you look at the carries for running backs, he has three of the 18
30:21red zone carries for the Seahawks backfield this season, Jadarian Price.
30:24And that number is not going to increase when Zach Charbonnet eventually comes back to the lineup.
30:29So that's what I look at with Jadarian Price play, where he's been struggling to hold on to the football.
30:34He's already in a committee. And so even though he has looked good at times running the football, I just don't see
30:41that it's not translating to the fantasy success that we'd like to see from our RB2s.
30:45So that makes him a sell for me. I wonder, like, what do you think you can get for him?
30:51Because I feel like a lot of what I have seen online is panic isn't quite the right word, but something adjacent
30:57to panic of fantasy managers basically seeing what you're seeing and wanting to get out of the Jadarian Price business.
31:03And I'm wondering, like, does that mean he doesn't carry enough value to be worth selling and is therefore more valuable as just a hold?
31:10And say, I am hoping that as a rookie, he kind of gets more and more involved in the offense later on.
31:16And, you know, if Charbonnet takes longer to come back from the injury than we expected, then this is OK.
31:22Like, I wonder if that's just the best approach, because I wonder what you could actually get back for Price right now.
31:28And I also do kind of laugh. Like, is Mike McDonald watching what Ken Walker is doing now that he has been unleashed?
31:35Like, maybe that should be a sign of, like, a lesson learned.
31:39Oh, maybe we were wrong to have this guy in a committee.
31:42And not that Jadarian Price is Kenneth Walker, but, you know, I like him.
31:46I think he's a good runner. I wish they would kind of learn their lesson there.
31:51But yeah, what do you think you can actually get for Price right now?
31:55You can get Blake Corum. Especially after Blake Corum's bad game.
31:58Who has more upside, right? Right. We've seen the Seattle backfield before is capped, right?
32:02It takes an injury to a player like Zach Charbonnet to unleash Kenneth Walker.
32:06That's where the ceiling play was last year. You can make the same argument where if Kyron were to go down, Blake
32:12Corum would be smash to a top five type of fantasy ceiling.
32:16There'd be no hesitation. Whereas he'd be like RB8 the first week of as a starter.
32:20Exactly. And although this last game for Corum was not great, they relied a lot more on Kyron Williams.
32:26The first two weeks of seeing him, Blake Corum was excellent.
32:29And he was, I would say, producing just alongside a player like a Janarian Price, despite the fact that he was operating as the clear-cut RB2.
32:36So I feel like Corum is an interesting guy that you could potentially flip for Price because he's not the starting running back on his team.
32:44But the contingent upside with him is very good.
32:46And obviously he has shown at least through two of three games that he does have some standalone value as well.
32:52Whereas with Price, I feel like we're just trending in the wrong direction with him.
32:57And even though his stock has suppressed a little bit, I don't see the path at the end of the tunnel where,
33:03oh, well, now he's just going to take over all the red zone opportunities.
33:07I don't think that's going to happen. That doesn't seem like it's going to be happening here in 2026 because they love Charbonnet.
33:13And if they did trust him in the red zone, I feel like they would already use him there.
33:19Whereas they have been electing to play guys like Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani.
33:23So that's where I look at Price as. That's the Price probably.
33:26Or you just do one of these running back wide receiver type of trades where you can flip them to a team that really needs a running back.
33:34Again, Devon H.N. The Brees Hall manager. Maybe Jadarian Price is one of these teams that you can use as a trade target.
33:41My running back to sell David Montgomery. And I'm kicking myself for not selling him after week one.
33:46Honestly, when he had the three touchdowns, that would have been the time to do it.
33:51It just is not. This run game is totally non-existent for Houston right now.
33:55You know, he has averaged yards per carry in his three games.
33:58Three, 1.7 and then three again. He has not topped 60 yards in a game.
34:02That was week one. He hasn't topped 33 yards in a game since then.
34:06Obviously, he hasn't scored a touchdown since that week one explosion too.
34:10It just feels like this offensive line is not working.
34:13This running game is not well designed. And he looks older and less efficient.
34:17And I don't know that he's totally cooked. But I mean, he is 29 and has been in the NFL for a long time.
34:24So I just want to kind of get out and hope that the combination of it's only been two games since he
34:30was just RB6 on the week in week one.
34:32And maybe that's still in the back of the mind of the manager you're talking to.
34:37And also, anybody you're trading with can look and say, oh, well, his next two games are Dallas and Tennessee.
34:43So you can sort of use that as part of a selling point in trading him and say, hey, look, he's getting these two choice matchups coming up.
34:51And I can't deal with that anymore. But I'm willing to give them up and you can take advantage of these two matchups coming up here.
34:58I think Dallas, too, like might be a sneakier, worse matchup than you think just based on the defense.
35:04Their secondary is so banged up. They don't have like enough players to be in their defensive backfield right now that I
35:10would just like if I'm a team facing them, I would try to throw.
35:14Not that the run defense is anything special. But like that pass defense is going to be like a nonstarter for them until they start getting healthier.
35:22So like I don't know that he's going to that this is going to be some great rushing matchup for him anyway.
35:28But somebody can look at that matchup when you're trying to trade away David Montgomery and say, oh, Dallas, that's a great matchup coming up.
35:35I don't even think it's that good relative to what this reputation might be.
35:39So I say all that to say, even if you're selling a little bit low here, I think it's just time to cut bait with David Montgomery.
35:47David Montgomery is the guy you sent in the trade with the paragraph about, hey, by the way, you know that they're
35:53facing the Dallas Cowboys and this other choice matchup here.
35:56So this is definitely why you want to take them off my hands, the Tennessee Titans.
36:01So I think that's the spirited way to do it.
36:03Worm, we'll see if it actually pans out in terms of trying to sell David Montgomery.
36:08I agree with you. We should have been more bullish on the got to sell him after the three touchdowns because it
36:14was the proof is in the pudding, right? With 20 carries for 60 yards in that game.
36:19The efficiency for him has been putrid. 2.8 yards per carry, third lowest mark among qualified rushers this year.
36:25It's actually worse than Woody Marks, which is also a three yards per carry, which also signals this offensive line is not
36:31creating opportunities for these running backs to get yardage.
36:33So both guys are struggling in terms of efficiency.
36:36Montgomery has a 24.3% rushing success rate. That is the second lowest among all running backs this season.
36:41And one thing to note as well, the one saving grace with Montgomery has been, well, he's the goal line back.
36:47He's the red zone guy. Well, last week, Woody Marks was the guy that got the opportunity at the goal line and not Dave Montgomery.
36:54So, Marks, you didn't really mention him, but he's a thorn in the side of Dave Montgomery.
36:59Like, he's involved a lot, especially as a pass catcher out of the backfield with the Texans playing in some negative game scripts.
37:06So, we have not gotten the Dave Montgomery workhorse role like maybe some people thought we were going to see in Houston
37:12this year after they signed him or traded for him from the Detroit Lions.
37:16Because it's a committee. It's a split. And even if he is on the 60-40 side of that, clearly that has not
37:22been enough if he doesn't have the touchdown. So, yeah, I think that you're just putting him on the block.
37:28You're seeing what you can get. If you can't get anything, you wait.
37:32You hope he pops off against Dallas. But then you remind yourselves like, no, I'm still looking to try to trade Dave
37:38Montgomery, even if he has another three touchdown game against Dallas, if that's in his range of outcomes.
37:43So, I agree with you that maybe we missed the boat, but hey, we still want to be sellers of Dave Montgomery.
37:50I want to make a point here before we move on that me selling Dave Montgomery is not me endorsing buying Woody Marks.
37:56I just – I would stay away from this backfield in general.
38:00Woody Marks has 65 total rushing yards this season.
38:02And outside of week two, he has two total targets.
38:05Like, yes, he did get the touchdown this week.
38:08And I'm glad you brought him up. I'm not saying that it was bad to do that.
38:12But to me, that's more what he's taking away from Montgomery and less like, oh, go out and buy Woody Marks.
38:18That to me would not be worth it. Let's get to the quarterbacks here, Eric.
38:23So, you've got one to buy and one to sell.
38:26Why don't you do them together here and move through them a little quickly?
38:30Yeah. So, Kyler Murray is going to be my quarterback to buy here.
38:33And that's because he faces the Miami Dolphins this week.
38:36I mean, it's really as short and sweet as that gets the New Orleans Saints in week five.
38:41So, you have some positive matchups coming up for him where he is not coming off a game that I think many of us were impressed by.
38:49But it has to go with the context that he did lose his number one wide receiver seven snaps into the game.
38:55So, he didn't have Justin Jefferson. He did able to pop off some big plays with Jordan Addison as the number one
39:02wide receiver in the Vikings offense after Jefferson left.
39:04It looks like Jefferson still has a chance to play in week four against the Miami Dolphins.
39:09So, I don't think it gets easier than Kyler Murray as a streaming quarterback.
39:13As a quarterback you can acquire really, really cheap versus a player that I want to get rid of.
39:19And that would be Justin Herbert. Right? I'm still holding on hope because Drake May was my buy low last week.
39:25So, I'm not going to put him on the sell.
39:27You can also listen to the tailgate show where we kind of just talk about how bad Drake May has been.
39:33Trust me. I know how bad he's been. Watched all the games.
39:37And yeah, it's as bad as the numbers would suggest.
39:40But Justin Herbert has also been equally as buns cheeks, however you want to describe it, as Drake May.
39:45Maybe not technically as bad, but in terms of fantasy production, it has been non-existent.
39:49And we talked about this on the tailgate show, but I am more hopeful that the Patriots can turn it around based
39:56on their schedule versus the Chargers that we've talked about on a number of different shows.
40:00Just an absolute gauntlet. And it starts this week against the Seattle Seahawks where I just don't know how the Chargers offices
40:07can get on track, especially with Justin Herbert. So, considering how many different quarterbacks you can access right now in your fantasy
40:13leagues, whether it's through trade or through waivers, I think right now Herbert needs to go to the waiver wire.
40:19So, he's my sell for me. Not even a sell that you can trade him.
40:23It's more just you just got to drop him because there are just so many other quarterbacks.
40:28You can't continue to keep playing him, hoping that things will turn around when there's no proof of concept that he's actually
40:34going to work in this Mike McDaniel offense, which has just been outright putrid for the first three weeks of the season.
40:40Yeah. You know, it's like a lot of there's been a lot of talk about could the Chargers go 0-9?
40:46Look how tough the schedule gets. To me, I had always kind of felt like, well, if they're losing a lot of
40:52these games, that might mean some garbage time points.
40:55It actually might not be the worst thing for fantasy for Herbert.
40:58He's going to be forced to throw more. But it's not just that they're facing teams that you think they're going to lose to.
41:05You're facing really good defenses, man, at Seattle this week, home against Denver, at Kansas City.
41:10Then after the bye week, they're at Los Angeles Rams where the Rams, like maybe Miles Garrett is back in that game.
41:16And then you get Houston. Maybe they figured it out by then.
41:20Then Baltimore, I mean, like, again, everybody knows how tough the schedule is.
41:23But specifically the defenses on this schedule are brutal.
41:26So would you, I was going to say, would you trade Herbert straight up for Kyler?
41:30Do you think that is doable? I don't know.
41:33I mean, Kyler's not coming off a monster game.
41:36So perhaps there is a window where you could potentially buy that.
41:39And Herbert has more of that name cache. Obviously a quarterback that people drafted in their fantasy drafts.
41:44But I mean, most of the time quarterback for quarterback trades don't.
41:48I don't know. A lot of leagues I'm in, you don't usually see quarterback trades really that often.
41:53So for me, this was just like go through the jugular, just cut Herbert, pick up Kyler Murray.
41:58I know that he's still floating around on some waiver wires.
42:01And because again, you can't always trade quarterback. So for me, this sell advice for him is more like just cut him
42:07because I don't see a scenario where you're going to feel confident about playing Justin Herbert anytime soon.
42:12Whereas Kyler, dude, you're starting this week, man. Week four.
42:15And then if he plays well, you'll feel confident playing him against the Saints in a dome setting.
42:21And then they have a week six bye week.
42:23So especially with the Jefferson thing trending in the positive direction, having him is a big boost for Kyler because dude, this Dolphins defense, man.
42:30Dude, the secondary is so bad. Just up and down the entire roster.
42:34Any quarterback can do anything against that defense. And then that's going to include Kyler Murray on Sunday.
42:39Yeah, it's it's a non-functional NFL defense. Yeah, Herbert is looking like maybe my probably my single biggest miss of the entire.
42:45Yeah, I liked Herbert a lot, too. So that's definitely something that I right now.
42:50So my three my three main quarterbacks were Herbert.
42:52I know exactly what you're going to say. It was Herbert, Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence.
42:57And those are my three most targeted quarterbacks by a mile.
43:00And Trevor is looking like the best of the bunch by a mile.
43:04I mean, Caleb, obviously just the injury, but yeah.
43:06I mean, where is where's Herbert in the rest of the season rankings?
43:10He is driving to QB 15. Would you rather have him or.
43:13Bryce Young. I think I think I think I think on principle, I'd rather have Herbert.
43:18Herbert also like Bryson appears to be fine, but he is like he did undergo imaging yesterday.
43:23Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah. That as well. Just to mention that I would still rather have Herbert.
43:28I don't love saying it. If I'm being honest.
43:31Bryson plays the lines this week. So buy seller hold do a couple of running back ones here quickly and then get out of here.
43:38And again, reminder for everybody, these are not ranking these three.
43:41It is you have to pick one that you're treating as a buy at their current market value.
43:46One is a sell. One is a hold. Bucky Irving, Chuba Hubbard, Jeremiah Love.
43:50Again, Bucky Irving, Chuba Hubbard, Jeremiah Love by seller hold.
43:53What are you doing? I want to buy Jeremiah Love just coming off a his best game as NFL pro really kind of dusted Tyler.
44:00I was year in terms of the backfield usage and he looked great.
44:04So I think that he's now on track to kind of finish as that back end fantasy RB one, like we traditionally
44:10see from guys that are taken with his type of draft capital.
44:14And finally, the Cardinals are kind of like, hey, enough of this Algiers stuff.
44:18Let's unleash our first round top five pick and Jeremiah Love.
44:21So he's going to be my buy. I think Chuba Hubbard is just a really solid hold right now.
44:26Again, I was wrong. That was my biggest L from week one of the trade show was selling Hubbard high because of Jonathan Brooks.
44:33Right now, Hubbard is just like a locked and loaded bell cow.
44:36And it's funny, the last two weeks, this dude has run so cold when it comes to penalties.
44:42Like he's had like a bunch of extra production that has just been evaporated into the ether because of plays being called back through penalty.
44:49So his production has actually been much better the last two weeks.
44:52And that's not to say it hasn't even really been that bad.
44:56Like he's seeing all the backfield touches for the Carolina Panthers gets the Lions this week.
45:00So Chuba Hubbard is going to be my hold.
45:03And then Bucky Irving is my sell. I think that the Buccaneers in general, in the beyond the waiver wire piece that
45:09I wrote for week four, I just said sell bucks because I think that this ship is taken on Waterman and there
45:15is nowhere in sight of this boat being rescued because Baker Mayfield's out for three weeks.
45:20They were already the worst offense in the NFL EPA per play.
45:23Buccaneers dead last in the entire NFL. Bottom 10 and yards per play, passing yards per game.
45:28Just a lot of the advanced metrics. Bucky has been the one kind of like silver lining with the offensive hole.
45:34But even last week, split snaps closer with Kenneth Gainwell.
45:37So I just have no faith that Zach Robinson and what they're doing with this offense is going to be anywhere near productive.
45:44Even if Baker comes back, it doesn't matter. They were bad when he was there.
45:48And now you have JL and Daniels as the quarterback.
45:51So jump ship for the Buccaneers players. And yes, of course, I'm going to make that pun because Buccaneers, Pirates, et cetera.
45:57But yeah, jump ship. Yeah, the ship has sailed.
46:00So we are selling something there. Let's do another buy seller hold here.
46:03Blake Corum, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, Aaron Jones. You mentioned a couple of these guys earlier in the show.
46:08Blake Corum, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, Aaron Jones. Yeah, I think for me it's going to be to sell high on Aaron Jones, presuming
46:15that you don't need wins right now. I think that just this work that he's seeing is very unsustainable and Jordan Mason is going to come back.
46:22So in a vacuum, Aaron Jones is a pretty typical sell high candidate.
46:26Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt would probably be my hold. I was impressed by the way that he was used last week.
46:31And he was another one of these players that had a really big play that was wiped off the board because of a penalty.
46:38And if you put that penalty or if you put that run that he had, it was like a big, I remember exactly how many yards.
46:46It was like 48 yards or something like that.
46:48But it like dramatically changes his final box score, which was otherwise just garbage, right?
46:53Where he did not see a lot of production.
46:55I think that he actually averaged under two yards per carry by the final stat line.
47:00But when you add that big play in that was really due to a legal shift, it wasn't one of these penalties
47:06that was, oh, it was a holding penalty that opened up the run.
47:10Like, no, like the penalty had nothing to do with the play, but just a bad run for Krosky-Merritt and the fact
47:16that he was still working ahead of Rashad White against the Seattle Seahawks defense.
47:20So I think that he would be my hole for me because he's got some good matchups, I believe, coming up.
47:26Okay, he's got the Colts this week. So that's a great matchup.
47:29The Giants are the next two for him. So he's definitely the hole for me.
47:34So just don't worry about like the lack of production this past week.
47:37He'll he'll bounce back. And then Blake Corham would probably be my buy, right?
47:41Just been a player that the first two weeks of the season, really, really good coming off a game week three.
47:48Not so good. It's the Broncos defense. But we know his upside if something were happening to Kyron and he had his
47:54own standalone value the last two games. He's just a really good running back and a really good player.
47:59And you just want to get those types of players on your team.
48:03So Corham would be my buy for cheap. I think you could make the case for switching Krosky-Merritt and Corham and saying
48:09Corham's the hold because you do need the injury for him to really hit his ceiling.
48:14Whereas Krosky-Merritt, like what would we be saying about him if that running counted?
48:18He'd be at 20 carries, 80 plus yards and a touchdown against the Seahawks.
48:22Like I think we'd be really impressed about Bill.
48:24So I'm not saying that like that one run should just change how we view him entirely.
48:29But I think that stat line would obviously look way different if he had gotten that.
48:34And again, particularly against the team that it came against.
48:37I think he's worth buying because I think anybody looking at his production this year would say, oh, he's been under four yards per carry in every game.
48:45He only has one touchdown. We're not that big believers in the offense.
48:48We think this is more of a fluky win against Seattle than something sustainable long term.
48:53I think that's the type of thing you might hear people say.
48:56So to me, he feels like pretty affordable. Whereas Corham is like such an upside play that like I actually don't know.
49:03Like I feel like I feel like Krosky-Merritt might be cheaper, but he can help you sooner than Corham because Corham is
49:09like Corham will contribute without an injury, but he won't be a superstar without an injury, if that makes sense.
49:15I would agree with that. And to a note that you had made earlier when we were talking about Hampton in the
49:21last couple weeks, I did have I did list Bill as my sell last week.
49:25So I could not just capitulate and be like, well, now he's a buy, even though that is I kind of agree
49:32with everything you were saying about his price. And that's why I went to hold because it's like week to week, right?
49:38It's like one week is a buy. Next week we hold.
49:41And then in the week three, we capitulate and sell.
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50:47That kind of thing really moves the needle. And now that AZ is starting a new life in Dallas, we don't know
50:53what next season is going to bring, but we know that we're all on the same team and it's been amazing to feel the love and support.
51:01So keep showing up for our girl, show up for each other.
51:04Thanks to Geico and our listeners. Hey, what's up?
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