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0:04Grainger, for the ones who get it done. I've been saying that all week, but it's a very fun feeling to kind
0:11of get back into the grind, honestly. It won't be maybe as fun by the time we get to the later parts
0:18of the season, but for now it's still quite fun.
0:21I want to ask you guys actually before we get into the key questions about the Thursday night game, I had plans
0:27last night that I stupidly made during Bill's Lions, so I was not able to watch the game.
0:33I was following along on my phone, of course, but I wasn't able to actually sit down and watch.
0:39The box score is very fun. I want to ask you guys, was this game as fun as the box score makes it seem?
0:4641-31 in favor of the Bills. Fitz, what was it like watching this fun Thursday night game?
0:51Seemed like it was going to be a blowout.
0:54The Lions defense is a real problem without Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph at safety.
0:58But credit to the Lions offense for mounting somewhat of a comeback and keeping it interesting, at least, until about midway through the fourth quarter.
1:06Seems like, D-Bro, the stars were stars for you to varying degrees.
1:10You know, on the Lions, Jared Goff, four touchdowns.
1:12Aminor St. Brown, two touchdowns, 142 yards. Gibbs caught a touchdown.
1:16Laporta caught a touchdown. On the Bills side, Dalton Kinkade continues this year for a breakout, 95 yards and a touchdown.
1:22James Cook, 135 yards and a touchdown. Josh Allen, five touchdowns.
1:25The only guy who didn't was DJ Moore, obviously, because of the injury.
1:29And J-Mo. J-Mo says hi. J-Mo with a quiet game.
1:32I guess I wasn't putting him quiet on that star level, but you're right.
1:37J-Mo, he's very much in his mind. I mean, top 24 wide receiver.
1:40Yeah, you're right. People brought back in again this year versus too high coverage.
1:45He kind of just disappears, man. You know, it just, it's always kind of weird when J-Mo has games like this because this passing attack is so consolidated.
1:53I mean, we know where the ball usually goes and then just he has these just flub games where he doesn't do a whole lot.
2:01And so, you know, it is what it is.
2:04But yeah, I thought the game was enjoyable for the most part.
2:07I mean, just in the fact of Dalton Kincaid continuing the breakout season, like he's a top two to three tight end rest of season.
2:15He keeps getting this type of route share. He's the guy that we were promised when he was drafted by the bills.
2:21And I'll just, I know we're out of draft season, but God dang it.
2:26But doesn't Amin Ross St. Brown feel like the one of the best first round picks and safest picks every single freaking year?
2:33Like we just know what we're getting, man. Like he's so freaking consistent every single week.
2:38The safest player who's never a top three pick, like despite the fact that he's safer.
2:42Like, cause you know, obviously like there's an element of safety to a guy like J-Moore Gibbs, or you know, he's gonna score a lot of touchdowns too.
2:51But Amin Ross always is in the back half or at the, at best, the middle of the first round and is always printing you money.
2:59It is really remarkable how consistent that guy is.
3:02I picked him, I picked him fourth in a guillotine league draft this year.
3:06Oh yeah. Yes. It's a good pick. Gibbs, Bichon, Chase.
3:09And I'm like, I want the guy who shows up every week.
3:12I never, ever typically go away from quarterback in the first round of super flex drafts.
3:17I had a super flex, like redraft league. Uh, one of the last drafts I had this season, I didn't have Amin
3:24Ross anywhere and I was picking eighth. And I was like, there's so many quarterbacks available.
3:29I'm just going to take Amin Ross here because I want to have him on a team.
3:34So at least I am somewhere. Um, quickly fits.
3:37Where is Dalton Kincaid in dynasty rankings for you right now?
3:40I'm just curious if you are like reacting immediately to this in terms of the longterm view as well.
3:46This breakout for Kincaid. I've not made an adjustment yet.
3:49So this is a prior to, you know, the end of the month reset on dynasty, but man, he's going to be so much higher right now.
3:57He's got, um, not even in my top 10.
4:00Uh, where's he going to go? Do you have an idea?
4:03Like, is he going to be, he will be top 10.
4:06Probably. Is he going to be top five? Like Debra says six.
4:10What are you, what are you thinking for dynasty is probably going to be more like eight.
4:15Okay. I don't with his, the knee issues he's had, he's a little older.
4:20Like I can't put him ahead of guys like Harold fan and junior Sam Laporta, but he is going to go ahead of Kyle pits.
4:27Yeah. Very fair. I feel like him, him versus Sam Laporta is the line of demarcation here.
4:32Cause both guys have had injuries and stuff like that.
4:35Sam was fricking awesome. His rookie season kind of feels like we're getting the flip side of the, the equation with Dalton
4:42Kincaid coming on like, you know, years later. So I moved up to six, but I think that the conversation starts at like eight or nine.
4:50Yeah. Um, we normally won't go as long on the Thursday night game every week.
4:54Cause we have a lot of matchups to get to.
4:57This obviously is a particularly compelling game and high scoring and everything.
5:01Final question on this game. A lot of the talk.
5:04And I just mentioned it. This draft season was how you're supposed to wait on quarterback and that's the right strategy.
5:11And a guy like Jared Goff in tonight's game might be, you know, proving that right.
5:15But then a guy like Josh Allen's maybe proven that wrong.
5:19If he has another one of these just like insane years where he's getting three to five touchdowns every week and running
5:25it and all this stuff, like next year, even if it is a very deep quarterback, you know, option in draft season, D bro.
5:33Are you going to be sitting here going, man, you know, it's really fun.
5:37It's just having Josh Allen on my fantasy team.
5:40And you know, what's really scary is going up against him.
5:43Like, I don't know what the right answer is with this because it feels like the correct decision is to wait at quarterback with how deep it is.
5:51But also, I'm like, man, I faced Josh Allen a couple of leagues last night.
5:56You know, what would have been fun is having him on my team.
6:00So what do you what do you make of just like that strategy in terms of is he that separated from the other quarterbacks here?
6:08I mean, I think he's separated from the other quarterbacks, but outside of Josh Allen, the other thing that when you draft
6:14Josh Allen where he goes, you have to correctly pick whatever, however you're making back up at running back and wide receiver.
6:21You have to nail that if you don't nail that you're behind the eight ball.
6:25And so like that differentiator doesn't become a differentiator.
6:28When you create another hole in your lineup, if you swing and miss a running back or wide receiver and stuff where
6:35it's like, yeah, Josh Allen's freaking awesome. I don't think anybody disputes that.
6:39But also, if we just want to talk about going back to week one, you could get Caleb Caleb Williams that scored
6:46him in week one and Caleb Williams went rounds and rounds and rounds later.
6:50Like Bryce Young was within three points of him.
6:52Jackson Dart scored 26 freaking points. Trevor Lawrence, 26 points.
6:56So like I will not dispute that Josh Allen is freaking amazing and he's awesome and he's gonna be a top three quarterback every single season.
7:03Not disputing that at all, but making that leap in in drafts, you're giving up something.
7:08And if you don't land the plane with picking correctly, however, you're making up at one of the running back or wide
7:15receiver positions, you still possibly digging yourself a hole that you can't get out of.
7:20What do you make of it? Fitz, I mean, those guys are very good.
7:24I don't know if emotionally they scared me to face as much as Josh Allen does.
7:29I'm not saying that's the right way to go about your draft decisions.
7:33Do you think it matters if you're a little lighter at running back or receiver if Josh Allen is scoring 35 points for you every week?
7:40Yeah, I mean, Josh Allen is awesome for sure gives you a positional advantage, but you do have to measure.
7:47So if you're drafting Josh Allen in the third round, and if you wait on quarterback, and you can conceivably get a
7:53pretty serviceable one in the ninth round, a Jordan Love type, do you get that much more of an advantage with Josh
8:00Allen over Jordan Love than the gap between, say, getting, I don't know, Emeka Ibuka in the third round versus getting Jordan Addison in the ninth round?
8:08Because that's a big gap too. So which gap is bigger?
8:11Like that's the opportunity cost that you're paying to take Josh Allen.
8:15But so far, that opportunity cost does look worth it two weeks into the season.
8:20Mm-hmm. Let's get into the games here. Reminder for everybody, all of our 2026 consensus rankings and tiers can be found for each week at fantasypros.com slash rankings.
8:28Start off with this Sunday early slate as usual.
8:31Panthers at Falcons. I want to ask about the receivers here.
8:34How wide is the gap in your guys' rankings between Tedderoa McMillan and Jalen Coker this week?
8:39When I put together the sheet, they were nine spots apart in ECR.
8:43I'm going to double check now and see if that's still the case.
8:47They're now eight spots apart at wide receiver 20 and wide receiver 28, respectively.
8:51That's still with the guys who played last night mixed in there as well.
8:56So it might actually even be smaller. I haven't sat down and removed those guys quite yet.
9:01But Fitz, when you hear that question, what do you think?
9:04What's the gap for you in your mind between these two receivers?
9:08When I hear that question, I think you're trying to instigate a fight between Debro and I because...
9:13Social media has been trying to do it all week too, Fitzy, and I'm not having it.
9:18I addressed it yesterday on a live stream. I'm not having it.
9:22I'm going to get plenty wrong throughout the entirety of this season, and you've already gotten a bunch right in week one.
9:29Then I've got to give you flowers later in this show.
9:32So, no, I'm not having it. You're the guy in the top 20 of the week one ranking, so I've got to...
9:39Yeah, if we could stop, can we stop the vote?
9:42Can we stop it now? I'm totally fine with it.
9:45But yeah, and I've been a Coker advocate, so I do have a bigger spread this week, and maybe that is a mistake.
9:52I've got Ted Arone, McMillan, wide receiver 20, Jalen Coker, wide receiver 31.
9:56But I do have to acknowledge, over the last nine Panthers games dating back to week 11 of 2025, and including the
10:03Panthers' playoff loss to the Rams last year, Jalen Coker, 43 catches, 600 yards, 6 touchdowns over the same span.
10:09Ted Arone, McMillan, 34 catches, 552 yards, 5 touchdowns.
10:11So, Coker has bested him in all three categories over a nine-game stretch, not by a huge amount.
10:17And, like, I do... Look, McMillan was the eighth overall pick of the 2025 draft, and I don't think he's done anything
10:23to make anyone question that he was worthy of that draft spot.
10:27But, like, Coker is definitely outplaying being the undrafted free agent from Holy Cross.
10:31Like, he is a find for the Panthers. It helped last week that the Bears were without slot corner Kyler Gordon.
10:38But then again, they kind of used McMillan and Coker interchangeably.
10:41I know McMillan ran a lot of routes from the slot last week, too.
10:45So, yeah, I mean, Coker's the real deal. Debra, you've been the Coker guy.
10:50What do you, you know, make... Where are they ranked for you?
10:53I've got Ted Arone, McMillan, at wide receiver 24.
10:56I've got Jalen Coker at wide receiver 29. So, I mean, Fitzy and I are not that far apart.
11:02Like, one's a back-end wide receiver 2. One's a high-end wide receiver 3.
11:06Where are we going to split hairs here is totally fine.
11:09And I'm not going to, you know, differ on Fitzy with any of these points, man.
11:14Like, I said throughout the entirety of the draft season that, like, the difference and the disparity in their rankings and where
11:21they were getting drafted and all that kind of stuff shouldn't exist because there's not that wide of a gap.
11:27We saw that in week 1. And I think, like, as we run through the season, both of these guys are going to have their weeks.
11:34And it's going to be like every other wide receiver tandem where it's a roller coaster.
11:39It's up and down. Like, one time, like, one week, one guy balls out.
11:44And especially when you go back to the Bryce Young of all of this and the passing volume, Bryce Young getting thrown
11:50the freaking ball that often every single game. So, you know, and they don't get to play the Bears every single game.
11:57So, I love Jalen Coker. I love Terrell McMillan.
12:00But they're going to have their moments and stuff.
12:02So, I think, like, right now they're both appropriately ranked.
12:05And it's a good matchup. Like, after one week, I'm not scared of the Falcons secondary.
12:10Maybe that's a take that gets proven wrong after we get a few more games under our belt.
12:16But I'll start both of them with confidence this week because the Atlanta corners don't put the fear of God in me at all.
12:23Yeah, Fitz, I was going to ask on the matchup specifically.
12:26Like, I know it's not the Bears, but Bryce Young has been very good against the Falcons in his career.
12:32Do you expect this to be the type of game where both of these guys, you're very comfortable starting?
12:38Or do you think it maybe will be a little, I mean, it will be a little less scoring in this one than the last week for sure.
12:47But, you know, to what degree do you think this will be a lower scoring game?
12:52I think both guys are in start range because they're both inside wide receiver three range pretty comfortably.
12:57I mean, I've got Coker as a mid-range wide receiver three.
13:00Might be a little trickier a matchup. So the Falcons could get Billy Bowman Jr.
13:05back from, he tore his Achilles last year. Had been really good early in the year before the injury.
13:11I don't, still not a matchup to be feared though for anyone, any of the coke heads out there.
13:16Let's go to game number two, Saints at Ravens.
13:19I guess it's kind of hate week for me and Debra, although Debra, you know, seem to get that.
13:25You're not quite as enthusiastic about the Saints as I am about the Ravens.
13:29Ravens offense was completely dominant in week one, yet they looked far less explosive through the air after Zay Flowers tweaked his hamstring.
13:36Is quarterback two maybe too high a consensus ranking for Lamar Jackson if he goes into this game down two of his
13:43top three wideouts as he definitely will be missing Jacoby Lane?
13:46I expect him to miss Zay Flowers. Debra, what do you think about that ranking for Lamar?
13:51It feels a tad aggressive. Like, I mean, only for the instance of, okay, is Lamar probably going to run?
13:57Sure. I think Baltimore also is just going to run the ball a crap ton.
14:02Like, I think Derrick Henry's in for a really, really huge workload in this game.
14:07I don't think Zay Flowers plays. So yeah, to your point, his top two wide receivers are going to be Rashad Bateman and Devontez Walker.
14:14Chris Moore, I would guess, would be maybe number two.
14:17I mean, it's not going to be good, man.
14:20So like, and then we're talking about he's throwing the ball to whatever version of Mark Andrews we have in front of us now.
14:27So I don't feel great about Lamar this week.
14:30But like, ECR has him up at QB2. I'm still sifting through where I want to rank Lamar this week.
14:36I don't want, I'm probably not going to end up at QB2 like ECR.
14:40Because I think Jalen Hurts has a fantastic matchup.
14:43Dak and Jaden Daniels, I think that game goes off.
14:46Do we see Caleb? Like, I'm probably going to have Lamar somewhere around QB5 or QB6.
14:51But again, this is, I'm still kind of wrestling with this one.
14:55I really think Derek Henry is going to finish higher amongst running backs than Lamar will finish amongst quarterbacks.
15:00Oh, I agree with that. And I thought watching that Ravens game closely, the offensive line was better at run blocking than pass blocking.
15:08Like, I just, it just feels to me like, hey, there's not a lot of receivers.
15:12This is what the strength of the team is right now.
15:16I think the Ravens think they can run all over the Saints and probably will.
15:20I just don't know. Again, that receiving room fits is just, it scares me off when I'm saying, okay, besides the guy
15:27who already played last night, Lamar's now number one quarterback for the rest of the week in the ECR.
15:33It just feels aggressive given who he's thrown into.
15:35Well, here's the thing. Who's a better candidate for quarterback two?
15:39Like, Jalen Hurts. We still don't have proof of concept that the Philly passing game is going to be significantly better with
15:45Sean Mannion as the offensive coordinator than it was last year with Kevin Petillo.
15:50And Lamar is a better runner than Hurts. Dak Prescott, I do expect better numbers than he gave us in week one.
15:56But, you know, if we don't get the passing numbers, he doesn't run.
16:00Brock Purdy might not have to do a lot with the 49ers favored by almost two touchdowns.
16:06Caleb Williams, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, all those guys have tough matchups.
16:09So, yeah, and it's not an easy matchup for Lamar.
16:12The Saints have allowed the fourth fewest passing yards since the start of last season.
16:17So the expectation for passing yardage with Zay Flowers out and right now the fantasy pros, are they starting or are they playing to all?
16:24Only a 12% chance for Flowers to come back from this hamstring injury.
16:28Probably not playing. But, like, Lamar could absolutely still throw two or three touchdown passes.
16:33And it's the running we're always excited about with Lamar.
16:36Like, we were concerned about Josh Allen last week against Houston.
16:39Turned out we were wrong to be concerned about the passing numbers.
16:43He went over 300 yards. But even if he hadn't had such a good game as a passer, Josh Allen had two touchdown runs against the Texans.
16:51And Lamar can give you 50-plus rushing yards and a touchdown to matter the opponent.
16:56But, yeah. Yeah, that's fair. That's the only differentiator a little bit for me, Fitz.
17:00Like, where Lamar hasn't been as prevalent at the goal line.
17:04Like, he scored a rushing touchdown last week. But it's not like he's had that massive roll on a week-to-week basis.
17:10Like, so where it's like, if he gets one touchdown through the air and only throws, like, one, maybe two touchdowns.
17:16Like, that's probably enough. But, like, if he throws two touchdowns and Derrick Henry gets all the rushing scorers at the goal line, then we're like, you know.
17:25I do concede the point also. It's like, who else are we putting at QB2?
17:29I just – I think that QB is kind of – There's not an obvious QB2.
17:34QB is kind of tough to rank this week, to be honest.
17:38Worm should be giddy about what the Declan Doyle offense looked like last week.
17:42But then again, the Colts might not be a good test.
17:45The Saints are probably a better test than the Colts.
17:48The one big takeaway for me when I dug into this game more, the fact that Lamar was under pressure on 50%
17:55of his dropbacks and he played as well as he did.
17:58Lamar was incredible in that game. But it did look – the offense just moved differently once they went out.
18:05Like, they were truly unstoppable when he was in the game.
18:08And they went to merely very good once he was out of the game.
18:12And it just became the Derrick Henry show. Declan Doyle is awesome.
18:16I wonder if he will run Lamar more at the goal line.
18:19If maybe we get more rushing touchdowns this season.
18:22I mean, that was their first big goal line stretch or red zone play calling opportunity he had in a real game.
18:29And he – you know, Lamar got a touchdown running.
18:32So I wonder if we maybe see more of that this season.
18:35You better hope Zay is out of this game too because if Mark Andrews doesn't catch up in the touchdown department, I
18:42don't know how that bet's going to go for you.
18:45I do want Zay to sit this game. Like, you need to keep him for the long term.
18:51He should not play. Let's go to Vikings at Bears.
18:54The Bears scored 59 points in week one. Yet none of Luther Burden, Roma Dunze, or Colson Loveland had big days.
19:00Obviously, Loveland the worst of those three. Which Bears pass catcher is most likely to break out this week, Fitz?
19:06I'm tempted to say Luther Burden because the Vikings blitz at such a high rate.
19:11And if Caleb Williams can get the ball to Burden quickly against those blitzes, like there are fewer guys left in the
19:17secondary to tackle the very slippery Luther Burden. But I'm going to say Colson Loveland.
19:22Despite the goose egg last week, highest route participation of any tight end, north of 90%.
19:27Maybe the route participation comes down a little bit this week if the Bears occasionally keep him in to help out blocking against the blitz.
19:34But the Bears are probably going to use a lot of 12 personnel.
19:38Let Cole commit help with the blocking. Get Loveland out on routes.
19:42Still the same guy he was last season when he turned into a freaking monster at the end of the season.
19:48So I'm going to say Loveland bounces back this week.
19:51I'm not sure what Ben Johnson's mindset will be in terms of Colson Loveland.
19:56I could see him going either direction on the one hand.
19:59I could see Ben Johnson being the type of guy who's like, obviously I don't care about your fantasy team.
20:05If I can keep scoring 59 points without getting these guys super involved, I'm going to do it.
20:10Fine, totally support that. But I could also see him being like, all I heard this week was, oh, he scored 59 points and Colson Loveland did nothing.
20:19Well, let me show you that I also have this guy too.
20:23And he goes out and has a huge game and dials up a bunch of stuff for him.
20:28So I'm kind of curious what direction Ben Johnson will go in terms of how much usage he has in mind for Colson Loveland.
20:35And Debro, between these three, Birden and Doonesa and Loveland, who do you expect to have a big day?
20:41I kind of already talked about this earlier in the week with you.
20:45And I'm massively in on Roma Doonesa in this game.
20:48One, he's off the injury report. So like week one, he had a 55.3% route share.
20:53I think that goes up. But to something we've already kind of talked about in this game, Brian Flores is a freaking madman, dude.
21:00He blitzed at 73% of their defensive snaps in week one.
21:04And I don't know if he does that again in week two.
21:07But we know that the Vikings, what they do, there are two staples of this defense.
21:12One, they play a crap ton of too high coverage.
21:15Two, they blitz at a top five clip every single week.
21:18And both of these things, if we look at the usage last year, makes me lean heavily in the direction of Roma Doonesa.
21:25Because versus too high coverage, Roma Doonesa was second on the team with a 24% target per route run rate, 1.89 yards per route run last season.
21:34Again, going to last season two, Roma Doonesa against the blitz.
21:37He led the team with a 27.8% target share, a 32% first read share.
21:41So if Roma is a full-time player this week and Brian Flores is dialing up the blitz on 40, 50% of Caleb
21:48Williams dropbacks, I think this is quietly a huge Roma Doonesa week.
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22:46That's J-A-S-E dot com. Those guys are all ranked between 50 and 58th in the overall flex rankings for this week.
22:52So, you know, the rankers aren't entirely sure who's going to have the biggest game here.
22:57They're all kind of clumped together. Just a very quick second question on this game.
23:02I think we have to ask, where are you ranking Aaron Jones with Jordan Mason going on IR this week?
23:08He's RB25 in ECR. I actually kind of maybe expected that to go up a little more than it did.
23:14Fitz, quickly, where are you ranking Jones? That's it?
23:17Jeez. I've got him RB20. I think he gets a pretty full workload.
23:20Yeah. I think you're – I think that's closer to where I expected him to be in consensus is more – I
23:27mean, he's not even an RB2 right now, Debra.
23:30Yeah, I've got him at RB19. I'm right with Fitz.
23:33Like, do you want to play Aaron Jones, who's getting all the work for the Vikings this week?
23:38Or do you want to play Cam Scadaboo, who had a 30% route share?
23:43Do you want to play any one of these other back-end RB2s?
23:46Like, I – there is some hesitation because I feel like this is one of those moments where, like, is this a trap?
23:53And Aaron Jones goes out there and he pulls a hammy in quarter one.
23:58I hope that does not happen. I have weird, like, gut feeling like maybe we're getting set up to fail here.
24:04But everything else says Aaron Jones should crush this week.
24:07He's going to have the backfield to himself. There's nobody really going to be there to take away work.
24:13Like, I'm not worried about DeMond Claiborne. The matchup is fantastic.
24:16The Bears' run defense was suspect walking into the season.
24:19And after one week, they gave up the eighth highest explosive run rate, second highest rushing success rate in week one.
24:25So, everything is pointing to Aaron Jones should crush as a strong RB2 this week.
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24:52All right. Bengals at Texans. Next matchup here. Pretty fascinating one.
24:55I actually feel like I don't really know what to expect.
24:59I wasn't sure what direction to go with on the question.
25:02I could see this game going in a lot of different directions.
25:06You know, obviously the Texans, I expected the defense to be excellent.
25:09They, you know, weren't that great against Buffalo, but that was against the Bills.
25:13You know, the Bengals, Joe Burrow's got this back thing.
25:16He seems to be unconcerned, though, in saying he's going to play.
25:20Jamar Chase coming off. Maybe their defense is better.
25:23It's just a lot going on here. So, I'm going to keep it kind of simple on the question.
25:29Give me one player in this game that you are above consensus on, and one player in this game that you are lower than consensus on, Debra.
25:37One player I'm above consensus on. I mean, I think he's a low-hanging fruit here is Dalton Schultz.
25:42With no Nico Collins, we know the matchup. I mean, like last year, Cincinnati couldn't stop any freaking tight end.
25:48Dalton Schultz got a 21% target share, 18% first reach share.
25:52Like, I've got him right now. In my rankings, I've got Schultz at tight end 12.
25:57Like, George Kittle, we don't know how much the 49ers are going to need him.
26:01Mark Andrews, what is left in the tank. I've got him above even Harold Fannin because, good Lord, it's Deshaun Watson 2.0.
26:08You know, like, how great do we feel about that?
26:11I think Dalton Schultz is going to be a tight end one this week.
26:15Sorry, where did you say he was ranked? I was distracted because Zay Flowers is practicing.
26:20I just saw that tweet come across the timeline.
26:23I would be shocked if he plays. I still don't think he plays, but that is worth noting that he is practicing.
26:29This feels like a little bit of gamesmanship with the media.
26:33Lamar QB2, baby. Yes. All right. He's just in the ranks, baby.
26:36Sorry, Debra, you said tight end 12 for Schultz?
26:39Tight end 12. Okay, yeah, he's 15 in consensus.
26:42Fitz, is he also somebody that you're looking at as above consensus on?
26:46Oh, yeah. Match. Perfect match. I also had Dalton Schultz as the guy I'm above consensus on.
26:51Only tight end 13, and I've been debating whether to move him ahead of Fannin, and I probably will.
26:57Yeah, I mean, the Bengals gave up the most catches, receiving yards, and touchdowns to tight ends last year, and by a
27:03pretty wide margin in all three categories. I know they've upgraded their defensive personnel, but Al Golden was the defensive coordinator last year.
27:10Al Golden, still the defensive coordinator. And yeah, CJ Stroud has to go somewhere with the ball.
27:15No Nico Collins. So yeah, did Debra give his guys above or below consensus?
27:20No, no. Who are you guys below? Either of you can go first.
27:24I'll go ahead and just lead this off, and this is somebody where I think in deeper leagues, people are going to
27:30look at the snap counts and be higher than him.
27:33I'm not saying that a lot of people are going to start this guy and stuff, but I'm telling you that I
27:40don't think he's at all flex-worthy in this game as Woody Marks.
27:44I think a lot of people are going to look at the snap counts from last week and say, Oh, well, I
27:50saw Woody Marks play more snaps than David Montgomery, and I'm just going to give context to this.
27:56A lot of that came on the final drive.
27:59A lot of that came in two-minute. A lot of that came in the very end of the fourth quarter.
28:05If you look at through the first three quarters, this was David Montgomery's backfield.
28:09He played over 60% of the snaps. So the final snap count is lying to people, and where people can look at
28:16it and say, Oh, the Bengals, Woody Marks. And also, David Montgomery got all five of the Houston Texans' red zone carries.
28:22So I think some people could look at Woody Marks and say, And I'm not saying in 10, 12-team leagues anybody is going to consider this.
28:30But in deeper dynasty leagues, 14, 16-teamers, people being like, I mean, what's my flex options like?
28:35And saying, Can I talk myself into Woody Marks?
28:38No, no. Fitz, you or are you lower on?
28:41All right. So not much lower, and I'm not telling anyone to bench this player.
28:45But I've got Jamar Chase at wide receiver five, which puts me below consensus.
28:50And it's a tough matchup, for sure, against a Texans' D that's probably going to be breathing fire after getting humiliated last week against the Bills.
28:57And I know the Bengals are adding some new wrinkles to their offense.
29:01Joe Burrow under center a lot more. Maybe they just needed a week to get the bugs out, and things look a
29:08lot better for Jamar Chase this week. But last week, two catches, 12 yards, four targets.
29:13It's like, are we totally sure his knee is okay after that hyperextension three weeks ago?
29:18I know he himself termed it a minor hyperextension, if that's possible to have a minor hyperextension of your knee.
29:24But yeah, so I'm just, it's a very gentle fade, and it is not in any way meant to be disrespectful of
29:30Jamar Chase, who could certainly defy a tough matchup and go out and throw up 150 yards and two touchdowns.
29:37But I am slightly behind consensus. Yeah, it's less like go sit Jamar Chase and more like, hey, maybe in DFS you're not going that direction, right?
29:45You know, that sort of thing. Or if you have him in your lineup, and you have a really, really tough opponent
29:51and stuff like that, and I'm splitting between do I take floor or ceiling with my flex play, I think you should lean towards ceiling.
29:59Yeah, I think that's a good way to frame it too.
30:02Steelers at Patriots is our next game. A couple of offenses coming off lackluster performances in week one, though the Patriots did
30:09have the excuse of playing in Seattle on banner night.
30:12With such a low total, last I checked was 41.5 consensus over under on bettingpros.com.
30:17Is there any player in this matchup you guys are actually above consensus on?
30:21Fitz, I'll start with you. This is weird. So I was team Jalen Warren all offseason in the Pittsburgh backfield.
30:27And Warren was good in week one and Rico Dowdle was not.
30:31Like Warren had 10 carries, 46 yards, five catches, 27 yards.
30:34Rico, eight carries for 15 yards, two catches for six yards.
30:37And yet Rico Dowdle played 14 more snaps than Jalen Warren and ran eight more routes.
30:42Like that I was not expecting to be seeing Rico Dowdle more involved in the passing game than Jalen Warren was.
30:49So, like, I don't know whether Warren gets more work in week two on the merits based on just looking better.
30:55And I really think he is the better player in week two.
30:59But, like, I'm kind of following the usage here.
31:01So I find myself three spots above consensus on Rico Dowdle just because he seemed to be Mike McCarthy's lead guy last week.
31:08But I just I don't know if it's going to be situational matchup thing week to week.
31:13You know, and I'm the Patriots run defense didn't look any any better than average in week one.
31:19So I'm not really fearing that matchup. I think Rico is actually a flex worthy guy this week.
31:24But I'm not excited. But I'm above consensus. Debro, I'm sure you are above consensus on Rico Dowdle.
31:30I'm not sure if he was the guy that you picked to talk about for the same question or matching with Fitz again.
31:37But I know you've been talking about Rico Dowdle this week.
31:40Yeah, I mean, again, to everything and all of Steelers fan base.
31:44I tweeted that out. I was like, Rico Dowdle is the RV one.
31:48And the entire fan base on social media is like, well, you don't you know, Jalen Warren fumbled in the first quarter.
31:54And I was like, bro, come on. I feel like we're kind of just telling ourselves some things here.
32:00But maybe again, it's only one game. So I don't want to overreact.
32:04But to Fitzy's point at Rico out snapped him, ran more routes.
32:08The productivity wasn't there, but the usage was. So does that show up this week against a Patriots lackluster run defense?
32:14So I could have picked Rico Dowdle here. I actually went with Romeo Dobbs.
32:18I've got him as a strong wide receiver three.
32:21I think he's going to be the clear wide receiver one for the New England Patriots.
32:26Looking at, you know, just what he's done, considering especially like Pittsburgh's coverage.
32:30They previous years before the start of the Mike McCarthy era, they had been a single high team, decent amount of man coverage and stuff.
32:37And week one, 57% of their defensive snaps were too high.
32:41So you look at what Romeo Dobbs has done.
32:44And I know it's a new offense, new team and stuff like that.
32:47But again, going back to the skill set, his target per route run rate last year went from 21 to 23% versus too high.
32:55Had 1.86 yards per route run. I think a lot of people are looking at like his week one performance and they talk about the drop.
33:03The dude had three freaking targets. It wasn't like he went out there and he just flubbed every single thing.
33:09And we got to sit here and understand that like with A.J.
33:12Brown out, who the hell else is going to be their wide receiver one?
33:17It should be. And I think it's going to be the guy that they paid in the offseason.
33:22And he's still very talented. So I think he's a strong flex play.
33:26Fitz, are you on board? I'm above consensus on dubs, too.
33:29But like no one really got wide receiver one usage.
33:32Well, Stefan Diggs went did when he was in the game, but they rotated receivers.
33:37I mean, Drake May is the socialist quarterback. He just throws to whoever's open.
33:41And so like with no A.J. Brown, I think it's going to be a total ensemble effort.
33:46And we might even see guys like, you know, like I picked up Matt Collins in a league where I kind of
33:53am hurting at wide receiver this week. So like Matt Collins to Mario Douglas, maybe even Kyle Williams can get involved.
33:59Fitz, I believe you beat me for Matt Collins in our guillotine league bidding.
34:04Oh, did I? Yeah, I think I think that's the league where I really need him this week.
34:09Yes, I could have used it. That just shows you the level of desperation when there's a bidding war for Matt Collins out there on the waiver wire.
34:18I just throw it out there. I wouldn't call it much of a bidding war, more of a bidding kerfuffle.
34:24We didn't spend that much money trying to get him.
34:27One dollar versus zero. That's pretty much what it was.
34:30But I still lost out. Packers at Jets. Christian Watson and Garrett Wilson are back to back in week two consensus rankings
34:36amongst receivers at wide receiver 11 and wide receiver 12, respectively.
34:40Who do you guys expect to have the bigger game?
34:43Debra, I'll start with you. This is Christian Watson.
34:46And it's not close. I love Christian Watson. The fact of, again, going to coverage specific stuff.
34:51I don't think the Jets like I'm not worried about the Jets cornerback room.
34:55Brandon Stevens does not scare me. Nashawn Wright does not scare me at all.
34:59Christian Watson looked like a freaking dude in week one.
35:02And I think he keeps doing that in week two.
35:05Looking at the Jets, their coverage structure, 59% too high in week one last year versus too high.
35:11Christian Watson, 21% target per route run rate, 2.72 yards per route run.
35:15And in week one, dude, he ripped off 4.19 yards per route run versus too high coverage.
35:20Good luck, Jets. That's all I can say. I'm not surprised that you picked Watson.
35:24I'm a little surprised you said it's not close given what their consensus ranking is.
35:29Where do you rank Garrett Wilson this week? I mean, I've got Garrett Wilson as a mid-range wide receiver 2.
35:35And I've got Christian Watson as a wide receiver 1.
35:38And this is not a Garrett Wilson problem. It's just one week of Geno Smith.
35:43I've seen enough of Geno Smith over multiple seasons to understand that that in itself is a very not fun roller coaster.
35:49Okay. How are you ranking them, Fitz? Who do you prefer?
35:53I've got Watson wide receiver 9 and Wilson wide receiver 11.
35:56So I like both. I prefer the guy attached to Jordan Love over the guy attached to Geno.
36:01But Geno might not be bad this year, Debro, behind him.
36:05He might not. He might not. The Jets offensive line is actually good.
36:09And by the way, like if anyone needs a streamer for the next three weeks, Geno gets the Packers, the Lions and the Bears.
36:16Three NFC North teams that can score and make Geno keep his foot on the gas and that have really suspect pass defenses.
36:23That's a good call. That's a good call. The Packers, their pass rush got home against the Vikings last week.
36:29But I'd say their pass rush still a question until Micah Parsons gets back and their cornerbacks are not good.
36:35And and yet that's the second best defense in the division.
36:38We've seen what the Lions and Bears defenses look like.
36:42Yeah, that's a good call. Good shout. Second question quickly on this game.
36:45Marshawn Lloyd became a very hyped sleeper near the end of draft season with all the Josh Jacobs stuff.
36:51He had just 37 yards on 13 carries in week one.
36:55Debro, where are you ranking Lloyd this week? I talk about giving Fitz flowers.
36:59I'm going to lead this off with going and telling like I I was very aggressive on Marshawn Lloyd in week one.
37:05I thought he was going to be a clear RB, too.
37:09I thought he was going to get all of the work and it was going to be very marginal.
37:15Chris Brooks usage should have listened to the Packers guy should listen to Fitzy.
37:19He was right, man. Chris Brooks was out there more than I ever wanted to see.
37:24But what I will say about Marshawn Lloyd, he got 61.9 percent of the design carries in the offense.
37:29So he was the early down rusher. We could see his his role grow a little bit this week.
37:35And I think it's a good matchup in the sense of if the Packers can jump out to a lead, Lloyd is
37:42going to have running room against this defense. Like the Jets run defense was not good last week.
37:4712th highest explosive run rate, fourth highest rushing success rate.
37:50So I think Lloyd can get going this week as a flex play.
37:54I've got him at RB. I got him at RB 28.
37:58So just I mean, you know, a decent flex play, but like in a similar vein of like Bill, like I think
38:04his stat line could look very similar to what your core cross team merit did in week one.
38:10Just to kind of put some context to it.
38:13Those guys are actually back to back in consensus.
38:15Cross. I've got Bill right ahead of him. Yeah, he's 29.
38:19And Marshawn Lloyd's RB 30. RB 28 for D bro.
38:22Fitz, where are you at? RB 35. The incompetence of the Packers offensive line hurts Marshawn Lloyd in two ways.
38:28One, it's not going to open a lot of holes for him.
38:31Two, it's going to necessitate a good blocker to help with blitz pickup.
38:35And Chris Brooks is better at that than Marshawn Lloyd is.
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39:37Next game on the slate here. Fitz, Browns at Buccaneers.
39:40Nobody was surprised by the inept Cleveland offense in week one, but some might have been surprised by the poor defensive performance.
39:47Is this a bounce back spot for the Tampa Bay offense, or do you think better days are ahead for the Browns defense?
39:54Better days ahead for the defense, but not a bounce back spot for the offense.
39:59The Browns do have talent on defense, but the offense stinks with Deshaun Watson at quarterback.
40:03And the Browns just aren't going to be able to keep the chains moving and give the defense time to rest.
40:10And for a second straight week, the Browns are going to lose the time of possession battle and have that defense out there baking in the Florida sun.
40:18In Jacksonville last week, now they're in Tampa. It's going to be hot, and they've got a quarterback who can't move the chains.
40:25Like, it's just a bad spot for the Cleveland defense.
40:28Fitz, I can't believe I was, I specifically didn't mention this because I wanted you guys to mention it, but I can't
40:35believe you didn't bring up the Baker Mayfield revenge spot here, too, just in thinking about this game for the Tampa offense.
40:42I mean, I'm about to. Okay, okay. I spoke too soon then.
40:45Debra, go ahead. I think Baker Mayfield is going to wake up dangerous and go full savage mode, man.
40:51I think that he's going to open the Spite store.
40:54I think he's going to absolutely just going to let, they're going to let him cook, dude.
40:59I think Baker Mayfield goes off in this game.
41:02Like, especially after going to the podium this week and Baker being like, all right, Todd, I get it.
41:08Michigan won. I'm going to wear the tank top.
41:10I'm going to do the thing. We're cool. We're cool.
41:13You're going to let me chuck it and rub it in their faces on Sunday though, right?
41:19We're cool. We're cool. All right. I'm, I'm, I'm so here for it.
41:23And Baker outside of like, okay, he had butterfingers.
41:25He got lost the three fumbles and stuff like that.
41:28Outside of that, he was healthy. He ran the ball.
41:31He had a rushing touchdown. He has the third highest passing success rate and catchable target rate.
41:37He is healthy right now. I think Baker Mayfield is going to cook in this week.
41:41And I think it's going to be a good week for a Mecca.
41:45Buka, where the targets go after a Mecca. We shall see.
41:49I still want to have faith in Chris Godwin.
41:51Although Chris Godwin's week one performance really let me down and his per route metrics kind of were, I still, I got
41:58to see it for at least two more games before saying Chris Godwin has cooked.
42:03So I, I'm, I'm in on Baker in on a Mecca in on Chris Godwin.
42:07And again, I'm just going to continue to give a Fitzy flowers here, bro.
42:11Bucky Irving and week one had the fifth best miss tackle rate.
42:15He is healthy. 38% miss tackle rate. I, but yeah, Bucky looks like he could have been one of the like best values you drafted this summer.
42:23If he keeps up with this type of role and usage and, and performance fits, where's Baker ranked for you this week?
42:30He's QB 17 in ECR. QB 13. 13. Okay.
42:33Yes. You are expecting a Fitzy's in on the spite store.
42:36I'm here for it. Oh yeah. Here for it.
42:39Baker's big for Baker's a spiteful cat. No, he is.
42:42And I'm maybe the most spiteful quarterback in the face.
42:45Yeah. I can't think of who I can't think of who I would more buy into a revenge game narrative with besides Baker.
42:52Honestly, nobody. Yeah. He is end of list. Number one.
42:55And his Baker may. Let's go to Eagles at Titans.
42:58Dallas Goddard is tight and seven in ECR coming off of his two touchdown performance in week one.
43:03Is that too high, too low, or just right against Tennessee?
43:07Debra. That's disrespectful. To be honest, man, I've got him a tight end for like that.
43:12I just, I just think that is massively disrespectful.
43:14Like he operated last week with a 23% first reach here, a 20% target share.
43:19Makai Lemon is getting a low a dot gadget usage and he's going against the defense.
43:24They gave it the fourth most fantasy points per opportunity to tight ends as well as you, you know, I don't think
43:30he walks out of this with two touchdowns again this week, but he got two red zone targets and a deep target.
43:37So it's like, what box is Dallas Goddard? Not checking that anybody wants him to check versus a lot of these other tight ends.
43:44Fantastic matchup. He's a top two option in the passing attack.
43:48He gets high cholesterol usage. We, we don't think that Tennessee's offense is going to do much of anything in this game.
43:54I, yeah, I love Dallas Goddard this week. He is tight end seven, but Dalton Kincaid and Sam Laporta are ahead of him.
44:01Like just if you look at ECR from where they have been ranked, so he's tight end five amongst the remaining tight ends.
44:08Just wanted to kind of clarify that on the rankings in case anybody was confused.
44:13Fitz, too high, too low, just right. I'm going the other way on this.
44:17I've got him tight end 10. Like the surface stats were good in week one, but I wasn't like dazzled with the
44:24performance the way I was by like Dalton Kincaid and Isaiah Likely in week one.
44:28Like he had four catches for 77 yards, two touchdowns.
44:31I think what only like five or six targets.
44:34But those two touchdowns were such comically bad instances of defense by the Washington commanders.
44:39The first one, like he catches a ball in the middle of the field, has three guys around them.
44:44Two of them immediately fall down after Goddard turns upfield.
44:47And I think the third trips over one of the guys who fell down and Goddard just like waltzes into the end zone.
44:54And in the other one, they just like music killed to be a cue up the Benny Hill.
45:00It was totally Benny Hill stuff. And then the other one like there they drop into some zone coverage and no one
45:07just bothers to move towards Goddard, who's just running wide open down the seam.
45:11So, I mean, it was really bad defense leading to those two touchdowns.
45:15Like I wasn't just like, oh my gosh, Dallas Goddard looks amazing.
45:18No, it was just two complete gaffes by the Washington defense.
45:22So I like he's a fine play. I have no issues with I'm starting him in a league this week, but I
45:28just don't see him as being at the top of the tight end one group.
45:33Like I, my counterpoint is we did see the Titans defense week one, right?
45:37That they're, they're not, they're not great. They're not great.
45:40I mean, like I still have faith in Robert Sala to cobble something respectable together out of that group, but we'll see.
45:47Maybe that's, maybe that's a leap of faith. I shouldn't be making fits.
45:51Do you, you have Isaiah likely ranked higher than Dallas Goddard?
45:54Is that right? I do. Okay. Yeah. They're, they're back to back in ECR.
45:58Goddard is ahead. I was just curious because they both had big games in week one.
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46:21All right. Sunday late slate here. Jags at Broncos.
46:24The Jags dropped 34 points in Denver late in the 2025 season.
46:28Now the Broncos defense is coming off a horrific week one performance.
46:31Is this a start all Jags type of game or are you worried about a bounce back performance by the Denver defense this week?
46:39Fitz? I just don't think it's a start all Jags type of offense for them.
46:43It's kind of too much of an ensemble cast.
46:46Like even Basial Tootin is not getting I've got Tootin ranked as like a low end RB2.
46:51You're probably at least getting him into a flex spot.
46:54You're absolutely starting Parker Washington who did cook last year against the Broncos in that game where Trevor Lawrence had two 279 yards, three touchdown passes.
47:02Parker Washington, six catches for 145 yards and a touchdown.
47:05So you're starting Parker Washington. I don't know about Jacoby Myers and Brian Thomas.
47:09That's very roster related. I don't know about Brenton strange, but Parker Washington for sure.
47:14Basial Tootin probably Trevor Lawrence probably. He's like back into the top 10 for me.
47:18Debra, what do you think? I mean, yeah, Trevor destroyed this defense last year.
47:23We'll see if that happens again. I've got Trevor Lawrence at QB 10 again, like Fitzy, like backing QB one.
47:29I'm not starting Jacoby Myers. I'm not starting Brian Thomas Jr.
47:32The outside corners for the Denver Broncos are good.
47:35Patrick's retained. If Brian Thomas Jr. The other thing we need to talk about here left last week's game, he's, he's already got a shoulder injury.
47:43We're one week into the season and he's already hurt.
47:46So I'm assuming that he plays. And if he plays Brian Thomas Jr.
47:50Got shadowed into oblivion last year by Patrick's retained.
47:52So he followed him on 78% of his routes, held him to one reception and nine receiving yards.
47:58So I'm not starting Brian Thomas Jr. I do not want to play Jacoby Myers.
48:02I am very bullish that Parker Washington, and I'm not saying that he's going to go for, you know, a buck 45,
48:09but I think that he can have another really strong game because he is their clear wide receiver.
48:14One, we saw that in week one with a 26% target share.
48:18So starting Parker Washington with confidence. Also feel pretty good about Basial Tootin going against this run defense.
48:24I'm not saying that the Broncos run defense is going to look as terrible as they did in week one.
48:30But if you're looking at archetypes of running backs and stuff like that, and trying to put the pieces together, Basial Tootin
48:36is not Kenneth Walker, but he's also really, really good at forcing missed tackles.
48:41Denver had a problem tackling guys in week one.
48:43Basial Tootin, 20% explosive run rate, 33% missed tackle rate in week one.
48:47I think Tootin could have a really good game.
48:50Um, the guy I do want to bring up here is Brenton strange.
48:54I'm very high on him because I think when you're just looking at the nuts and bolts of this matchup, you're going
49:01to stay away from the outside corners of the Denver Broncos.
49:04Like we, I just talked about this. Like, so Jacoby Myers, Brian Thomas Jr.
49:08have down games in this Brenton strange in this very same matchup last year was tied in nine for the week.
49:15He had a 19% target share, three reds on targets in that game.
49:19Um, week one, um, he had, I mean, the usage was fine.
49:22I mean, really like the, the touchdown got him over, but I think this is a spot where if we're looking at
49:29anybody outside of Parker Washington that emerges from the Jacksonville passing attack, I think it's Brenton strange because they're staying away from the outside corners.
49:36And he's really the guy that can put Trevor Lawrence over the top this week.
49:41Fitz on the other side of this one, what do you make of Jalen Waddle's poor debut with the Broncos last week?
49:48I'm worried that Bo Nix is a below average starting quarterback and that Waddle is kind of going to get lost in
49:54the shuffle of the always, it's always like an ensemble cast with the Sean Payton offense.
49:59It seems I shouldn't say always. I mean, there were the Michael Thomas years, uh, with the saints, but I don't know.
50:06I'm a, I'm a little concerned. Debra, you were very high on Waddle this summer.
50:10Are you like dialing down your enthusiasm? Are you saying, eh, it's just week one.
50:15Let's not overreact with your headspace out on Jalen Waddle right now.
50:19So I had to go to the film for this one.
50:22I went back and last night and prepping for this show because again, trying to make sense of what the heck happened
50:29with the Broncos in week one, there was so much to unpack in that game.
50:33First of all, Bo Nix was pressured at the highest rate in the entire freaking NFL on 54.5% of his dropbacks.
50:40That's an unsustainable rate for any quarterback to, to make sense and live in.
50:44But number two, Bo Nix played bad. And I'm just zooming out the offensive line for the Broncos played horribly.
50:50Like there were multiple spots. Jalen Waddle was fine in the game.
50:54He had one drop on a, on a, on a slant, which was more of a concentration drop.
50:59But I watched every route by Jalen Waddle. There was a lot of Bo Nix.
51:04There was a lot of, he got pressured. There was a lot of Waddle wasn't the first read in the play design,
51:10or if he was the first read in the play design, Bo Nix came off of it because he had a defender in his face.
51:18There was a quick out or a speed out to where Waddle got a bad target.
51:23He had room to work, but Bo Nix like didn't hit him in stride because he had a defender that he had
51:29to throw it around to get it to him.
51:32So it turned into a contested catch. Which Jalen Waddle was perfectly fine though, on a ton of his routes.
51:38Like I went through every one of his routes and I was like, okay, he's open on a deep out.
51:44Okay. He's open on a slant. Okay. He's open on an over route.
51:48And Bo Nix got pressured, wasn't looking for him or what have you.
51:52I think that there's a lot of things to, again, to talk about with that game and how it played out.
51:58I think if Davis Webb continues to struggle as a play caller, Sean Payton's going to take over play calling.
52:05And if that's the case, like, I think there are better days ahead for Jalen Waddle because everything that was wrong in
52:11week one, wasn't really a Waddle problem. It was an offensive line problem.
52:15It was a Bo Nix problem. I'm not saying that Bo Nix is going to turn into one of those accurate quarterbacks in the entire freaking NFL.
52:23But I think that there are better days ahead because things are going to change.
52:28I think the offensive line will not play as bad as it played in week one.
52:33And if the play calling keeps like looking like what it looked like in week one, Sean Payton, whether they announced this
52:39to the media or not, Sean Payton will take over play calling duties.
52:43Let's go to Raiders at Chargers. Are you guys giving a second chance to the Chargers offense after their week one dud?
52:50Or are you fading them in the rankings this week against the Raiders?
52:54Fitz, what do you think? Another chance, but I'm a little lower than consensus on Justin Herbert.
52:59Um, and what are you having that bit scene?
53:02I have got him at, I think quarterback. Let me see.
53:05I think quarterback 12. Okay. Cause consensus is at QB eight and I'm with you.
53:10I'm actually sorry. QB 11. Um, yeah, I just, the interior of the offensive line looks like it's going to be a problem again.
53:17And they thought they had center solved with Tyler Biotic and now he's out for the year with the knee injury.
53:23So like Justin Herbert seems like he is not himself when there's pressure up the middle, which understandable.
53:29A lot of quarterbacks aren't themselves when they're consistently getting like a gap pressure against them.
53:34Debra. I'm not fading them. Um, I mean, I am, I guess like mild fades versus consensus.
53:39I mean, I've got Justin Herbert, a QB 11.
53:42I'm looking at where, where does he ZR have a Marian Hampton 12 RB 12.
53:46I've got Hampton at RB 12 as well. So like with those guys, like I'm at, or maybe like maybe like a shade below.
53:54I do think it's kind of funny after an entire summer of off season hype and might be Daniel and everything.
54:00It took one game for, for everybody to hop off the hype train.
54:04Like, wow. Like we must've not been that convinced.
54:07Like I had questions the entire summer. Like I was like, dude, the splits with Mike McDaniel with and without Tyree kill or not great.
54:14Are we are, is all the Mike McDaniel stuff really just Tyree kill stuff?
54:18I'm like, I've got worries about the offensive line.
54:21I got worries about this passing attack. I got worries about a Marian Hampton's fit with this run scheme.
54:27And it took one game and everybody's like, Oh, I don't know about the chargers.
54:31And I'm like, damn, just one game. And everybody's like, just like shook to their core after an off season of summer
54:38of hyping to hell and back this entire offense.
54:41Like your guy, Brett Whitefield at fantasy points though, has been making that case that like Mike McDaniel is not Mike McDaniel.
54:48Like the, the numbers on his offense when Tyree kill is not on the field, they're not all that spectacular.
54:54No, they're really, really bad. Like the EPA splits are massive with when, and this wasn't just one year.
54:59It was all four years of like with the dolphins.
55:02It was like with Tyree kill in the field, EPA per drop back, EPA per play, EPA per pass top 10 out
55:09with Tyree kill off the field 23rd or worse in every single metric that you pull up and people like, Oh, that's a two of stat.
55:17I'm like, okay, maybe that's a two of stat.
55:20It can also be a Mike McDaniel stat. So that's what makes it hard.
55:24Right. It's like, you don't know is that, is that more because he's limited by two and Tyree helps unlock those limitations versus Mike McDaniel.
55:32Isn't all that in a bag of chips. It's, it's hard to kind of know where the blame and credit lie in those situations.
55:39But I think that makes it a smart call by you to have been questioning it and saying, let's not be so
55:46certain about what the charges look like. But again, also, this is just one week.
55:50We'll see what they look like. I mean, just pointing back to week one, two though.
55:55It's like lad goes out. Like, should that entire offense have cratered?
55:59Like QJ does nothing. Amari and Hampton does nothing.
56:01We don't use the running backs at all in the passing game.
56:05Keaton Mitchell gets more usage than freaking Amari and Hampton.
56:08Like all of it. You're just like, okay, like fine.
56:11But still like real versus the Cardinals. Oh yeah.
56:14I mean, it was a dud. Like there's nobody's defending that week one performance for sure.
56:19Yeah. I just quickly, quickly fits. Where are you ranking Quentin Johnson?
56:22If lad isn't playing. If lad isn't playing. Right now I've got QJ, I think wide receiver 32.
56:28It's going to come up, but it's not going to come up that much.
56:32No, I'm sorry. I've got him wide receiver 30.
56:35I probably move him up to maybe just a couple of spots.
56:38Like wide receiver 28. Okay. I've got him at 28 and I'll move him up to probably like wide receiver 26-ish.
56:45I mean, similar to what Fitzy's saying. And I will point out with QJ, this is a really good matchup for him.
56:51Raiders in week one, 62% single high. QJ last year in his 11 healthy games versus single high.
56:5721% target per route run rate, 2.07 yards per route run.
57:00So this could be a sneaky, like really, really good spot for QJ.
57:04So Seahawks at Cardinals. Jadarian Price and Jeremiah Love are close to back-to-back in ECR amongst running backs this week.
57:10I'll double check, see where they're at right now.
57:13They were two spots apart when I put this together.
57:16Oh, they are now back, actually back-to-back RB23 and RB24.
57:19Which player would you rather start in this game, Fitz?
57:22I guess I'm a little higher than consensus on both.
57:25I've got Jeremiah Love, RB21. Jadarian Price, RB23. Easier matchup for Price, for sure.
57:29But like, I think Jeremiah Love is special. And we're getting little flashes of it.
57:34And I think it's only a matter of time before he starts getting more snaps and more carries than Tyler Algier.
57:40Like, Algier ahead of Love is not going to last very long.
57:44Debra, who do you prefer? I don't disagree with anything Fitz he just laid out there.
57:49I think Jeremiah, dude, when you spend a top five pick on a running back and you're running Tyler Algier out there more than your top five pick.
57:57It's high ankle sprain related. Yeah, he's coming back.
58:00That's what I hope. That's what I hope. I really, really hope.
58:04And I hope it's not just hubris and rookie stuff and make him earn it and all that kind of crap.
58:10I really, really hope. Okay? I hope that's the case.
58:13To Fitzy's point, Jeremiah Love is amazing. I just wanted to see him unleashed in a full-time role, bell cow role.
58:19Like, just run your offense through this dude. For this week, though, because I am worried, like, we get another week of
58:26Tyler Algier playing more than Jeremiah Love. I have Jadarian Price ahead of him.
58:30I got him an RB 23, Love at 24.
58:33But with both those guys, like, again, like, hoping a guy gets more work, anybody with two eyes could see that Jadarian
58:40Price and George Helani are not cut from the same cloth in week one, man.
58:44Like, one guy had insane juice. Like, you give him the ball and, like, we need to take the number and the
58:51name off the back of the jerseys. Nobody would question, okay, well, that's Jadarian Price.
58:56Okay, there's George Helani. If they just give Price the freaking ball, I think that he's going to have a really strong outing.
59:03Again, I know that, like, we saw this play out last year.
59:06Seattle probably doesn't do that. I'm hoping they do.
59:09But I'll just lean on the matchup and the talent of Price in this one.
59:13Commanders at Cowboys. Are you guys ranking Commanders players as if the Cowboys defense is as terrible as they looked against the Giants?
59:20Or do you think that, in hindsight, that performance was more about New York and that the Dallas defense can still be improved?
59:27How are you approaching this game, Debra? I think the Dallas defense looks like it's going to suck again.
59:33That was just god-awful. I mean, like, if you watch the broadcast, like, the Giants are spamming screens and checkdowns to the
59:40flat because Dallas will not cover it. Are we serious?
59:43Is this an NFL defense or is this a junior high program?
59:47Like, what are we doing here? Are you... Huh?
59:49Huh? Yeah. So, I'm ranking... Like, I think it's a big bounce back game for Jaden Daniels.
59:54I'm starting Terry McLaurin specifically out of this game with confidence.
59:58I've got him as a top... I've got him at wide receiver 21.
60:02Where's ECR at on him right now, Worm? ECR on...
60:05Terry McLaurin. He is at... Sorry, I'm switching over to receivers.
60:08Oh, he's 25. Yeah. 25. Yeah, like, I'm going to continue to be above consensus because the thing that I did take
60:15away from week one with Dallas is 54% single high.
60:18Terry McLaurin has roasted single high in his career.
60:2128% target per route run rate. 2.49 yards per route run last week.
60:24I think you start McLaurin confidently as a wide receiver, too.
60:28I'm not going to be moved off of it when they played the freaking Eagles last week.
60:33Like, we know that secondary is good. Like, McLaurin was never going to have a big game, but also, like, Stefan Diggs starting with confidence.
60:41Strong flex play. I think that the commander's offense bounces back in this game.
60:45I think this game is going to shoot out.
60:48I hope that, you know, Dallas can look like...
60:50Again, talking about teams that forgot how to play offense.
60:53Like, what did the Cowboys do in week one, man?
60:56Like, Dak, the receivers, everything just looked off. So, I think this is more of a...
61:01Okay, we need to see Dallas bounce back in this game more than I'm worried about the commanders, to be honest, man.
61:08Fitz, Debra, and I got a lot of Terry McLaurin questions on the stream yesterday.
61:12So, he seems to be a player that folks aren't really sure what to do with.
61:17This commander's offense in general, do you think they're going to bounce back here against the Cowboys defense?
61:23And do you think that defense was about the Cowboys and less about the Giants offense looking good?
61:28Yeah, I'm ranking the commanders as if it's a neutral matchup because I do still have some hope for the Dallas defense.
61:35Or even if they're still working their kinks out in the Christian Parker system, I think the commander's offensive line is capable of making them look good.
61:43Even though the commander's offensive line held up reasonably well against Philly in week one.
61:48Yeah. Let's go to Dolphins at 49ers. Fitz, this is the biggest spread of the week by far.
61:53Deservedly so. But do you think there's any chance that the 49ers disappoint?
61:57A little bit relative to expectations. I'm not saying they're going to lose the game.
62:02Just based on their Australia trip, we talked a lot about how the Rams were sort of gaming this out with the
62:08idea of weeks two and three in mind. And the Niners maybe didn't do that as much, but maybe that won't matter with the talent disparity here.
62:16What do you think? Yeah, we talked about this, Andrew Erickson, Chris Walsh and I on the tailgate show yesterday.
62:23How, to me, one of the more interesting storylines of week two is how the Rams and 49ers look after handling the
62:29travel to Australia so differently with the Niners getting there well ahead of the game.
62:34The Rams just kind of parachuting in at the last minutes and, you know, the Rams supposedly doing that to keep their
62:40circadian rhythms intact and felt like it would affect them less in week two.
62:45They better be less affected by it in week two after the egg they laid in Australia.
62:50So they better be ready for that game against the Giants on Monday night.
62:54And we'll see if there is an Australia hangover for the 49ers against the Dolphins.
62:59I mean, it's a nice soft landing for them coming back to America.
63:03At home, almost two touchdown favorites. But wouldn't surprise me if they were a little sleepy in this one.
63:08I'm so tempted to take the Dolphins plus 13 and a half just based on like just thinking about the travel and
63:15the sleep and all of that just on principle almost.
63:18But like, man, are the Dolphins bad. I just can't like I'm too much of a coward to actually do it.
63:24I'm not doing it with my own money, but in a pool I'm in where you have to pick every game against the spread.
63:32I took the points with Miami. Yeah, that's that's how I do it, too.
63:36I wouldn't go out of my way to bet it.
63:39And I wouldn't bet it if it was like in like in a survivor pool type of spread scenario, something where it's
63:46like, you know, but if you're picking every game I like and I had to make a pick, I think I would go with plus points there.
63:54Debra, what do you think? Any chance the 49ers disappoint in their return to the U.S.?
63:59I don't think they do, man. They look so sharp in week one.
64:03Like they look like they were just ready to go.
64:06Christian McCaffrey looked like he was shot out of a cannon.
64:09Like that looked like a version of Christian McCaffrey we haven't seen in the NFL over the last like two to three years.
64:16Like he looks spry. He looks explosive. I think that he has a monster game in this one.
64:22And I don't I agree with y'all. I when we get totals that get up into like the mid 50s or low
64:28like like 52, 53, 54, or we get these massive spreads that are like 12 and 13, 14 points and all this kind of crap.
64:36I stay away from those because I just look at always like play volume, garbage time, whatever.
64:41Like things can go sideways if I was forced to make a pick.
64:45Yeah, I think that the 49ers cover this. But in the betting streets, like I'll stay away from that just because there's
64:52so many outs to like things going sideways with that.
64:55But am I projecting like the 49ers to be sleepy in this game?
64:59No, I think they roll. Sunday Night Football Colts at Chiefs.
65:02I think I'm going to go quickly on this one because I'm talking about two stars.
65:07So everybody's gonna be starting these guys, but they are ranked back to back.
65:11Jonathan Taylor and Kenneth Walker in ECR. They are fifth and sixth, respectively, in the consensus rankings in this game.
65:17So who has a better week? Jonathan Taylor or Kenneth Walker, Debra?
65:21Kenneth Walker. I Kenneth Walker. Like I'm worried about Daniel Jones, their ability to move the ball.
65:26Casey's defense looked outstanding in week one. I think Spags is in his bag.
65:30Kenneth Walker. Dude, I just got to throw this out.
65:33I have never seen a running back performance like what he put on film in week one.
65:38I've never seen this in the numbers. And I'm going to probably go in the way back machine later today to see
65:45if I can find anything close to this. I want everybody to understand with 23 carries in week one, Kenneth Walker forced 16 missed tackles.
65:53He had a 70% missed tackle rate. He had 6.39 yards after contact per attempt.
65:57I've never seen a one game performance like that ever, ever since I've been doing this job ever.
66:03So I'm just leaning on Kenneth Walker still doing some amazing stuff in week two here for it.
66:08Interestingly fits. When I put the sheet together, Jonathan Taylor was fifth and Kenneth Walker was sixth.
66:13They have now flipped. Now Kenneth Walker is fifth and Jonathan Taylor.
66:17They're still one apart, but it has reversed. Who is ahead?
66:20Who do you like to have a bigger game?
66:23I too prefer Kenneth Walker. Just the matchup. Like Debra was saying, Walker just has the softer matchup.
66:28Like the Chiefs run defense looked really good last week.
66:31And the Colts run defense did not. Like I think the Colts run D is going to be one we target with running backs all season.
66:39Because their defensive tackles to Forrest Buckner and Grover Stewart.
66:42Once great run stuffers. Those guys are 32 now.
66:45And the Colts linebackers, one of the worst linebacker groups in the league.
66:49And it kind of reminded me of like the Bengals linebacker group last year.
66:53And that was just like that short circuited their entire defense.
66:57And I worry that might be the same for the Colts this year.
67:01Plus, I think you want to run on the Colts and not throw at Sauce Gardner and Charverius Ward.
67:06Like that's how you attack the Indianapolis Colts. So yeah, give me all of Kenneth Walker this week.
67:12Yeah. And to add some numbers to everything Fitzy laid out there beautifully.
67:16Absolutely. Indy gave up the third highest explosive run rate in week one.
67:20And had the 10th lowest rate of hitting the running back at or behind the line to scrimmage.
67:25Yeah. To all Fitzy points, I think Walker eats in this game.
67:29Every week for Sunday Night Football, we are going to go through the prop bet cheat sheet.
67:34And give our favorite three and four star bets for that game.
67:38So Fitz, I'll start with you. What is your favorite prop bet for this week from the cheat sheet?
67:43Well, I do love Kenneth Walker. But the Chiefs probably don't want to work him into the ground just two weeks into the season.
67:51So I've got Emmitt Johnson over 25 and a half rushing plus receiving yards.
67:55That's a four star bet on the betting pros prop bet cheat sheet.
67:59Again, the Colts are a team we want to target with running backs.
68:03Emmitt Johnson looked really good given his opportunities in relief of Kenneth Walker in week one.
68:08And Emmitt Johnson, really good dual threat last year in college at Nebraska.
68:12So he can get home with the rushing and the pass catching.
68:15So 25 and a half pretty low bar against this bad defense.
68:19Debra. Kind of like Emmitt Johnson shouldn't have been a fifth round pick in the NFL draft.
68:24Huh, Fitzy? Kind of weird. Interesting. Hmm. Who knew?
68:27Anyway, moving on. Patrick Mahomes. I'm taking a three star bet with him.
68:31I'm taking the over three and a half rushing attempts.
68:34I feel like this line is just wrong. We haven't projected for 4.3 rushing attempts.
68:38I was very surprised how willing he was to run.
68:41Ran the ball seven times in week one. And you pair this also with Indy.
68:46Again, going back to it had the second highest pressure rate in week one, 50%.
68:50So I think Mahomes showed the willingness to run whenever pressure came in week one.
68:55I think he's going to do the same thing in week two.
68:59Those were our top prop bets for Sunday Night Football.
69:02Courtesy of the Betting Pros Prop Bet Cheat Sheet.
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69:19All right, guys. One last game. Monday Night Football.
69:21I think we can be quick on this one because it's kind of a similar question that I asked about the Niners.
69:28This is Giants at Rams. How much are you taking away from the terrible Rams performance of week one?
69:34Are you adjusting ranks for week two? Or are you largely ignoring week one given the weird travel stuff surrounding the trip to Melbourne?
69:41How are you approaching this one, Debra? I'm just kind of ignoring it.
69:45I'm just pretending like it didn't happen. I mean, I've got Devontae Adams.
69:49Maybe I'm low, but I don't know where he's at in consensus.
69:53I got him at wide receiver 25. But if you were to tell me anybody has him as a wide receiver 2, fine with that.
70:00I'm ranking Puka. He's wide receiver 23 in consensus, by the way.
70:04Yeah. And so, again, I'm like similar area code.
70:07It's just splitting hairs between guys. But like I'm ranking everybody with the Rams like I usually would.
70:12I just they look so discombobulated. I don't think that that's how they continue to work.
70:17And the other part about this is they're going to be forced to put points on the board, man.
70:23Like their defense was not great in week one.
70:25They had the ninth lowest pressure rate in week one.
70:28And Jackson Dart looked really, really sound. And so I think the Giants are going to push them in this game.
70:35I'm not saying the Giants are going to go out and win this game.
70:39I'm not saying they're going to post 30 versus this defense.
70:42But Miles Garrett is not walking in that door to help this pass rush.
70:47Aaron Donald, if he does play in this game, is not going to be a full-time player if they can't rush Jackson Dart.
70:54The other thing about it is like for all the things, and I'm not saying that he's a bad player after one game.
71:01But Trent McDuffie did not make his presence known in week one.
71:04Hope he shows up in week two. But if that doesn't happen, I think the Giants can put up points and they're going to push the Rams.
71:13So the Rams are going to be forced to put up some points in this game.
71:17But I think they will. Fitz, are you ignoring week one as far as how you're approaching ranking the Rams this week?
71:24Or are you taking into consideration that they looked pretty bad?
71:27I think so. I've got most of the Rams ranked like I'm right with consensus on all.
71:33But I'm a couple spots behind on Matthew Stafford.
71:35Oh, that's a good call. I have him lower.
71:38It's not so much that he looked bad, although he did look really bad and threw a lot of turnover worthy passes in week one.
71:46It's more that he's an immobile quarterback going up against a defense that can send Abdul Carter, Brian Burns, Kayvon Thibodeau, rookie Arvel Reese after him.
71:53Like, I feel like that could be a potential problem.
71:57And it'll be interesting to see how Sean McVay counters that.
72:00Maybe it's just a real run heavy approach. But I'm thinking it's probably not going to be like some 350 yard passing day for Matthew Stafford.
72:08That's a really good call. Fitzy. Like, I'm a few spots behind consensus on Stafford.
72:12And I think like as a consensus in week one, we had Stafford all kind of ranked as a top 12 quarterback.
72:19So I think Stafford's a really good call on this one because I don't want him as a QB one.
72:25Like, I've got Baker Mayfield, Jordan Love ahead of him.
72:28I had Jared Goff last night ahead of him.
72:31I you could give me a case where maybe Tyler Shuck outscores him this week.
72:35We shall see how that, you know, the Ravens game goes.
72:39But so, yeah, Stafford's a good call for this one because, yeah, there's just other quarterbacks I like more.
72:44And we know Stafford, while he might throw a lot in this game, he ain't going to run.
72:50So we'll go ahead and wrap things up there.
72:53Thanks, everybody, for checking out our key questions ahead of week.
72:56Week two for Debro and Fitz. I'm Ryan Warmly.
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