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0:04Grainger, for the ones who get it done. I'm going to need some support as we are going to look at accuracy from week two.
0:11It is not Erickson, it is not Fitz, it is not me, it's someone else that we have to give some love to.
0:18But we'll go through, we'll give some shout outs to the top three.
0:22We're going to talk about the top 36 running backs for the week.
0:25We're going to look through all the interlying deep sleepers, the plays.
0:29What we're not going to be doing, guys, is talking about Jonathan Brooks.
0:33Unfortunately, Fitz, Jonathan Brooks is going on the IR, just to pop this at the top of the news.
0:38Not the best thing for everybody's favorite sleeper. I remember the term people were using.
0:42Remember the industry plants? I think I've talked about this.
0:45There were people out there that are like, there's a couple of industry plants that are out there.
0:51Parker Washington was one, Jonathan Brooks was the other, and unfortunately Jonathan Brooks isn't working out.
0:55It's going to affect Chuba Hubbard, but that's our big piece of news before we jumped into this recording, Mr.
1:01Pat Fitzmaurice. At least it's not another torn ACL, but it is a groin injury that's going to be severe.
1:07And you just wonder if Brooks is going to be one of these guys who can never get it back on track.
1:13Maybe this is some sort of cascading injury from like the knee not being what it had been pre tears.
1:19So yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what they do behind Chuba Hubbard because they've got AJ Dillon.
1:25I guess they brought in Austin Eckler for a workout.
1:28So it sounds like they're maybe not expecting Jonathan Brooks back anytime soon.
1:31I love Austin Eckler. That would be a lot of fun.
1:35But Jonathan Brooks Erickson, the only player that people get excited when he's out for six weeks and not for the season
1:41that you're just like, you're like, oh, this is great news, but looks a little bit of a disaster.
1:46So we didn't really have it on the sheet today, but just a quick little summary.
1:51Like what do you think Chuba Hubbard looks like rest of season for you?
1:55Is he just a staunch top like 20 RB?
1:58Do you think he's gotten to have RB one upside now that there is just no like person that's going to be
2:04battling or take away any significant carries? I think top 20 is probably appropriate for Chuba Hubbard.
2:09The team trusts him. He's had heavy workloads in the past, 2024 and 2025 before he was dealing with some injuries.
2:15So yeah, he is slated to be the best pick that you could have made at running back late in drafts because of the Jonathan Brooks hive.
2:23That I was definitely on the bus driving people to draft Jonathan Brooks.
2:27So it's a big L on my part. And I was making the joke that Tom Strachan, who I did the best
2:33ball drafts with, maybe Jonathan Brooks is actually the guy you need because his advance rates can be really low because you drafted him so high.
2:40But if he comes back, makes 14, 15, 16, 17 in the playoffs has a bunch of big weeks.
2:46Well, maybe he is the guy that you actually needed.
2:49So that's the spin positive take on Jonathan Brooks.
2:51But in reality, this is probably a washed season for Brooks.
2:55Another one, unfortunately. Yeah, like maybe you needed that.
2:57You didn't need to draft that. You could have probably picked that above the wire would probably be a little bit more of the take.
3:04Yeah, go ahead. Would you guys rather have Cam Scadaboo or Chuba Hubbard rest of season?
3:09Ooh, I would go Chuba, but so we're split.
3:12All right. We're a house split here. So, Fitzy, you have to bring it home.
3:16Which one? I have Scadaboo one spot higher in rested season rankings.
3:19Really close though. Virtual tie. Okay. Well, we're going to be talking about all those rankings.
3:24By the way, Chuba 19 on the ranks for this coming week.
3:28But we are going to go through a top 36, what ECR is looking like through the expert consensus ranks, where we've
3:34got some of these guys, some of the big plays.
3:37But every single week, we are ranking these and we have an accuracy contest.
3:41And on this episode, the running back episode, we do like to give a shout out to what the top three looks like.
3:48And shout out to Muntradamus, finishing number one in accuracy this week.
3:51I believe, if I saw this correctly, I think he finished one in two of the main categories.
3:56So like monster week. Coming in at two is Kev Wheeler.
3:59And number three, Mike Mayer from betting pros. Like how he changed the betting pros off from fantasy pros to betting pros.
4:06Mike Mayer finishing three. Erickson, would you like to give a speech to our dear Mike Mayer for finishing top three here?
4:12I mean, if he puts up another top three finish, I may not be back on the show next week for week four rankings.
4:19And maybe Mike Mayer filling in for Andrew Erickson.
4:22So shout out to you, Mike. Crushing it as always.
4:25Our Eagles, Homer and Truther. Let's see if you can repeat week three.
4:28He gets a go birds for that. Good job, man.
4:31Mayor's mayor's beast, man. If we want to give, I put shout outs, I guess.
4:36But Fitzy and I did finish inside the top 50.
4:38We were both inside the top 50. So I guess that's like something, nothing to write home about or anything like that.
4:45And Erickson, we'll check in. No, no. Read the sheet.
4:48What does the sheet say? I think you really like the, you're in the 100 range.
4:52Like, no, no. What does it say in the sheet?
4:55Read the sheet. 146. Read the sheet. Exactly what it says.
4:58Oh, oh, I see. I see. Erickson. Buns. Yep.
5:01Buns. Buns. Sorry. Apologies. You are right. That way.
5:04We actually should have like anything under like 125.
5:06It's just like buns. It'll just be levels of buns.
5:09So it happens. I was trash last week. So, you know, we move on.
5:13It was a weird week. There's actually like a lot of kind of chalk at the top levels of all the positions that performed.
5:20And then there were just, you know, a couple outliers that really jumped in.
5:24But shout out to those guys. Those guys kill it.
5:27You can go and check how they've individually got these set up when you're checking out the ranks.
5:32It's fantasypros.com slash rankings. If you guys want to play along on this episode, if you want to follow throughout the week,
5:39and just know that some of the ranks are going to change as more experts are going to be putting in their ranks at whatever period of time.
5:47So speaking of, we've said ranks a whole bunch.
5:49Let's actually go look at them. RB ranks. We're going to look at the RB ones.
5:54This is one through 12. And this is what the big board looks like this week.
5:58Jameer Gibbs has got the top spot with Ken Walker at two.
6:02I'll be honest with you guys. I was really trying to not, I was trying to figure out how do I not put Ken Walker at number one?
6:10And it's just because there's a guy named Jameer Gibbs.
6:13Uh, B. John Robinson at three, Christian McCaffrey at four, Derek Henry at five, Jonathan Taylor.
6:18And then the back half, Ashton Gentty, James Cook, Chase Brown, Saquon Barkley, Brees Hall, and a Marion Hampton.
6:23There are three five-star matchups on this. There are four, four-star matchups on this.
6:27So there's like a lot of chalk. We always kind of go through this when we're talking about the top range.
6:33What is there to talk about? This is the one I want to bring to your guys' attention.
6:38And Fitzy, we'll start with you. I just want to get your take on Saquon Barkley here for a minute.
6:44Because Saquon Barkley comes in at ECR 10. You guys are a slight house split here.
6:49Not that you're advocating to push off or anything like that for him this week.
6:53But I'm also a little bit worried. Just had the stinger.
6:56You saw Tank. You saw Shipley. They started. I wonder if they want to play it a little bit easy in this
7:03next coming matchup and not have him have this big dominant workload because of what happened last week.
7:08And we see a little bit more of those guys, which caps the major upside.
7:12And you've got him at RB 13. That doesn't really represent necessarily what I'm selling here.
7:17But I'm curious if that was your take on not having him be an RV one, if maybe there's a little version of that.
7:24Yeah, it's definitely related to the stinger. Had to leave the game.
7:27Came back in the second half, but was used kind of sparingly after he came back.
7:32And Saquon was reportedly going to get an MRI.
7:34No word on the results of that MRI as of this recording, or at least I haven't seen any.
7:40I know Jeff Mueller, the injury analyst for Fantasy Points, noted that Saquon has kind of a history of stingers and got one last year.
7:47Obviously, we like the matchup here against the Bears.
7:50It's a bad defense. But if Saquon plays, I doubt he's getting 20 carries coming off a stinger.
7:55And, like, by the way, the Eagles offensive line is not what it used to be.
8:00Like, that's the other factor here. The Eagles currently ranked 29th in the run blocking metric adjusted line yards.
8:05They had to put Landon Dickerson on IR. That forced kind of a reshuffling of some positions on the offensive line.
8:11They no longer have their O-line guru, Jeff Stoutland.
8:14He departed after last season. So things are not quite the same with this offensive line.
8:18And maybe that hurts Saquon a little, too. Yeah, what do you think?
8:22You're on a little bit of a higher end.
8:25You've got him at RB9. Your rank kind of maybe represents you're not worried about it.
8:29Or maybe this is simply maybe you are. And it's just about the Bears defense.
8:34I'll bet you it's a little bit more of that ladder there that this Bears defense.
8:38This is one of the three five star matchups for running back this week.
8:42It's really, really good. But are you concerned at all about what usage is going to look like this week with him?
8:49I think I could probably change my tune on the projected usage as we get more news and information.
8:54I think that's a lot of information about Saquon Barkley and the results of his MRI.
8:59The fact that the Bears Eagles game is also on Monday night.
9:02So it is an extra day that Saquon Barkley gets potentially to see his normal workload.
9:07I mean, the fact that he didn't really play that much in the last game in week two.
9:12If he is good to go and he's not feeling any after effects of the stinger, then he could be fresh and
9:19ready to rock and roll against this Bears defense.
9:21That's terrible. Cheeks 26 first under center runs this season in terms of EPA per rush allowed 11 of Saquon Barkley's 18
9:27carries season have been from under center. So I think that's a really good matchup for him bears 122 rushing yards allowed
9:34per game 7th in yards for contact allowed per attempt.
9:37So understandably the Eagles interior offensive line has not been as good.
9:40But man, when the matchup is this juicy, I don't even know if he needs 20 carries to score two touchdowns hit over 100 yards.
9:47He's only really had one big run all season long, and that was like the majority of his yards against the commanders.
9:54But if he rips off one or two big runs, that's maybe all he needs to be a top 10 running back.
10:00I just can't see myself not ranking him as a fantasy RB one if he's active against the Chicago Bears, especially if
10:07they're starting case Keenum and you get the Eagles in positive game script.
10:10Yeah, it's too salivating for me. It's one of those things too.
10:14It's kind of tricky because like the Eagles are also going to be without Goddard and it's like if you can just
10:20bear down on this Bears team and run, why would they not keep doing it?
10:24Even if they do bring in Bigsby and Shipley a little bit more like 18 touches by Barkley might be top five RB against this Bears defense.
10:32So it is a kind of a tricky one.
10:35I want to hear I'm kind of with Fitzy though.
10:38I want to hear a little bit more of the news as the week goes on just to feel a little bit
10:44more positive before I move him up. But I thought he was really the only major question as just one quick aside
10:50before we leave the RB ones because it's like what do we talk about?
10:55Is there anybody you feel squirrely about in this list?
10:57Erickson, we can start with you and it's okay if you don't.
11:01I just want to let you know the list we have again, you know, it's the bottom half Taylor, Jente, Cook, Brown, Barkley, Hall, Hampton.
11:08James Cook has got a theoretical tough matchup here.
11:11Jente, Jonathan, Taylor. There's a couple like less than stellar matchups.
11:14Is there anybody you feel a little bit squirrely about or do you feel very confident what these RB ones are?
11:20I don't feel confident about Hampton or anything. I was going to say Hampton too.
11:24You guys both said Hampton to do that. Yeah, just the Chargers, the middle of their offensive line, their offense in general.
11:31It's just been kind of a train wreck. Erickson, you want to talk on Hampton?
11:35The Bills run defense is not the same as it was last year.
11:39And under the new defensive coordinator Jim Leonard, they're actually selling out to stop the run more than stop the pass.
11:45If you look at the way that they've given up a lot of their yards and points this season.
11:50I know Dave Montgomery scored three touchdowns, but he was not efficient.
11:54Jameer Gibbs got bottled up for a lot of that game, despite the fact that Ed Oliver didn't even play for Buffalo.
12:00So schematically speaking, they are very different than they were operating under Sean McDermott.
12:04They've allowed a league low 2.6 yards per carry on zone blocking schemes under Leonard down from 4.9 yards per carry on
12:11those attempts last season, which was ahead of the Cincinnati Bengals.
12:14They've recorded a tackle for a loss or no gain 14 of 21 carries for ball carries behind Larner scrimmage.
12:19That's number one in the NFL. They have the number one stuff right against opposing running backs.
12:24And the fact that Hampton has not had a role really at all in terms of the passing game.
12:30If you look up and it's 14 nothing is Hampton game scripted out.
12:34And if he doesn't score, man, it's really dicey potentially with Hampton, which is why I talked about him on the trade
12:40show as a sell high as someone that I'm really terrified based on what's like after this matchup for the Chargers schedule.
12:46If you look at the teams that start oh and two than the way that the Chargers have after winning a lot of games last year.
12:54I don't remember the exact teams, but none of them finished with very strong records.
12:58It's it's very scary the way that this Chargers schedule and rest of season is projecting and Hampton coming off a pretty decent game.
13:05Almost at 100 rushing yards touchdown. Man, I'm really scared for him.
13:09OK, a little bit of fear in Marion Hampton.
13:11Maybe that'll come up as we kind of get through and maybe we find a few of the RB2s.
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16:04All right, let's take a look at the RB2s.
16:07The big board coming in at 13. We've got Javante Williams.
16:10And fun fact, he is the one guy that made major movement.
16:13He was like yesterday, 11. And he moved out of the top RB spots here.
16:18Rougher matchup, Baltimore. Karen Williams is at 14. Devon A.
16:21Chan, DeAndre Swift, David Montgomery, Bucky Irving, Chuba Hubbard comes in at 19.
16:24Then we've got Cam Scadaboo, Jalen Warren, Aaron Jones, Bachel Tootin, and Jeremiah Love.
16:28So let's talk about Javante Williams. This is funny because the, you know, the original side of this is you guys were lower.
16:35You're still lower than Javante Williams, but he adjusted from 11 down to 13.
16:39You both got him at 14. Erickson, you want to start with, again, like concerns of any running back that's in the
16:45side of the top 15 is like a little bit overblown.
16:49But this is a guy that you both are lower on.
16:52So what concerns do you have on Javante Williams and maybe starting him this week?
16:56I think it's just giving credit to the Ravens defense as a significant upgrade versus the two defenses that the Dallas Cowboys have faced so far this season.
17:04They have faced the New York Giants. They faced the Washington Commanders.
17:08And in those two matchups, Williams did have the three touchdown game in week one, but he has 71 yards on 24
17:14carries 3 point or 3.0 yards per carry. The Dallas Cowboys offense could not really establish a run game consistently against the Washington Commanders.
17:21They had to keep dropping back to throw with Dak Prescott because that was only the really effective way that they could move the football.
17:28I know that Javante had a big run that was called back on a penalty, but since losing Tyler Smith, their starting
17:35offensive guard, they really haven't been able to generate a lot of blocking up front for Javante.
17:40So I think that's one of the reasons why he's just kind of at the end of that fantasy RB1 range for
17:46me, a tougher matchup against the Ravens defense who have been, I think, pretty solid against running backs.
17:51Jonathan Taylor obviously got his in week one because he is a stud, but the Saints could not do anything against this Ravens defense.
17:582.4 yards per carry allowed in week two. The chance that Ravens get some of their guys back.
18:03Matibuque was limited all last week. He could come back when they're starting linebackers, Teddy Cannon.
18:08He could come back in this week three matchup.
18:10The game's also being played in Rio, which weird things just kind of happen in some of these international games.
18:16So that's something you always want to account for.
18:19I know Wyrm has talked about how there was actually rumors that this game was not even going to be played in
18:25Brazil because of the conditions of the field being very, very, very bad.
18:29So that always kind of scares me of like, OK, like, could this be a slog if the field is just a total mess?
18:36I believe the last time we saw a team play in Brazil, it was the Eagles and Packers and guys were falling
18:42like falling down all over the place. So, again, that could generate big plays.
18:46And Javante has been involved in the passing game a little bit.
18:50But just, you know, the efficiency leaves a little bit to be desired.
18:54But the workload for Javante is obviously elite 80 percent snap share last week and obviously has touchdown upside.
18:59So I think I think this is appropriate spot for him in the RB right outside the RB one range.
19:05Forgot about the yeah, the Rio game. Not a lot of talk about the travel.
19:09I mean, I guess it's not Australia, but it's still there's some travel there for the Rio game.
19:14Fitzy, what do you think about Javante Williams? Great, great points on Ericsson and, you know, field of play and what it's
19:21going to look like for the travel. You're a little bit hesitant on the rank.
19:25Do you is this more of just a product of the rank or is there any real true hesitation for you?
19:31I mean, you're probably starting Javante Williams if you have him.
19:34And the encouraging thing, I think, with Javante is that he has been better and more involved as a pass catcher this year so far.
19:42Last year, he averaged two point two catches a game and only three point nine yards per catch.
19:47He averaged almost a full yard better on his runs last year than on his catches, which was pretty bizarre.
19:52Through two games this year, though, Javante eight catches averaging a more reasonable six point four yards per catch.
19:58The issue is that he's averaging three yards per carry, like Ericsson said, and has a long run of nine yards.
20:04Just not an explosive runner has not had an explosive run yet.
20:08And also not getting a ton of rushing volume.
20:10He's had 12 carries each of his first two games.
20:13Yeah, the field like it was a skating rink when the Packers and Eagles played in Brazil the last time.
20:19I do wonder if that maybe keeps the Ravens from bringing back Matabuike in this game.
20:23They've been kind of cautious with his return. And when he's back, he's a disruptive force.
20:28Like if I know his he's playing, I might move Javante down another spot or two in my rankings.
20:34But yeah, for now, it's just high. High. High end running back, too.
20:37And I think you're playing him. But, you know, the lack of explosive runs is kind of annoying at this point.
20:43A running back that you guys both agree that is not an RB two based off of the ranks.
20:49You guys both have his RB ones is Devon H and Devon H and going up, though, against the Kansas City Chiefs to start matchup graded.
20:56He is ECR 15 Erickson, you've got him at 12.
20:59But Fitzy, you are the high man. You got him at 11 and the 49ers matchup.
21:04You know, that was another one of those tests in where he was going to go against, you know, I don't know.
21:10The 49ers just give they give up plays on the run.
21:13But, you know, how he was going to perform as the, you know, 49ers kind of dominate that team.
21:19What do you think about Devon H and as far as jumping up to 11 again?
21:24This is the last of the guys. These are kind of like, yeah, these are guys that you're starting.
21:29But if there are questions, you really seem to like Devon H and this week.
21:33Yeah, the Miami offense is bad. The Miami offensive line has been bad.
21:37But H and is averaging 19 touches a game.
21:40And we weren't sure if H and was going to get his normally robust usage in the passing game with Malik Willis at quarterback.
21:47But so far, H and has been targeted 11 times and has seven catches, which puts them on a pace for 60 catches.
21:53The rushing success rate for H and so far this season is only 32.3%, which is about 17 percentage points below his career average.
22:00I can't really make the case that the Dolphins offensive line is going to be good at some point.
22:06But I promise that a chance rushing success rate is going to come up.
22:10And the usage so far has been pretty much everything H and investors could have hoped for.
22:15Erickson, what do you think about Devon H and you've also got him as an RV one this week?
22:20You've got him at 12, three spots higher than ECR.
22:23What is your addition to H and here? You got to love the usage, at least.
22:28It's not like awesome. You know, the team doesn't fly and move or anything like that.
22:32But, you know, he's going to get his touches.
22:3593 yards from scrimmage last week. Right. In a game where Miami's offense really couldn't do nothing.
22:40Those were all hard earned yardage from Devon H and we know that he can rip off a big play, a big
22:46explosive run, a big play in the passing game.
22:49To fit this point about H and his doom and gloom projection as a receiver with Malik Willis and Caleb Douglas may not even play in this game.
22:57So you're just opening up more target opportunities for H and to eat, especially if they're in negative game script.
23:03If you look at all running backs this season, number one in routes run Devon H and so he's going to have
23:09opportunities to catch four or five, six balls out of the backfield.
23:13I would also to talk about and this is something that I want to look at across the landscape this week is
23:19you're getting certain teams playing at home for the first time.
23:22Miami is one of those teams that's played both their first two games on the road, which is a tougher place to
23:28play, especially if you're a really, really young team.
23:31Miami has a home field advantage in September at home in the heat.
23:35I think that that matters because they're used to it.
23:38So I think H and again, I think worst case scenario is a volume play, but I think this is an opportunity
23:44where he could potentially rip off a big run, catch pass out of the backfield.
23:48So I think that he is a good, you know, he's a fine play this week.
23:53Yeah, I mean, he's a he's a top dog.
23:56All right, let's move down to two guys that are in the bottom half of the RB to range again.
24:01You're probably not having to have too many questions about these, but who knows Aaron Jones actually might be one of those
24:08guys that makes it tricky because he jumped up probably not one of your top two backs.
24:13He is ECR 22 this week going up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
24:16We saw the usage last week. You both actually this is another instance.
24:20You guys are both higher. You put us pressed him as a top 20 running back.
24:25So Erickson, why don't you kick it off here?
24:27Aaron Jones, your thoughts on him being a little bit higher.
24:31He is in that like mid ish tier RB to range.
24:34What's your confidence level with him moving forward? A little shaky in terms of is he 100% healthy?
24:39I know he got a little nicked up in last week's game, and I would be very surprised if he's not on
24:45the injury report for the Minnesota Vikings this week.
24:48So that's something that with Aaron Jones as an older player, something that you always need to be aware of that this
24:54guy gets banged up and that can knock him out of the game.
24:58But if he is healthy and ready to go, I expect him to see bell cow level usage like we saw last
25:04week against the Bears 23 carries for 105 yards.
25:07That was the most carries he's ever had for the Minnesota Vikings.
25:10So it was clear that the team put their trust into Aaron Jones and not into DJ Dallas or Daman Claiborne.
25:17He was the guy that they trusted to carry the workload in a game that weather played a role.
25:22It was where they can play ball control. Now, the issue with the matchup is it's much tougher this week against the Buccaneers.
25:29Like this is a defense that sells out to stop the run had it's been that way since Todd Bowles basically took over as a defensive play caller.
25:37So it's not as easy a layup as the Chicago Bears.
25:40But when you have volume on your side, especially with Aaron Jones, who can be using the passing game wasn't the case
25:46last week because the game script didn't call for it.
25:49And I think that it does work in his favor that he ran a lot of man concepts last week, 5.1 yards
25:56per carry on man concepts compared to 3.3 yards per carry in 2026.
25:59And the Buccaneers have actually been really bad against man concepts since last year, 5.7 yards per carry.
26:05That's the second most in the lead behind only the New York Giants.
26:08So maybe the matchup is not as bad on paper.
26:11I kind of just like fading the Buccaneers in all facets just because they're a team that is totally unraveling since the second half of last season.
26:19So I continue wanting to target them as a bad team overall.
26:22So I think the Minnesota Vikings, Aaron Jones, top 20 play.
26:26No Damon Clayborne. I mean, just no, anyway, just Aaron Jones and Aaron Jones rolls Fitzy.
26:30What do you think about Aaron Jones? You got him at RB 20 this week.
26:35Yeah, Erickson framed this pretty perfectly. And maybe it would be a good idea for the Vikings to ease off the throttle
26:41a little bit with their 31 year old running back.
26:44But what choice do they have with Jordan Mason on IR?
26:47So you figure Jones will once again have a pretty substantial workload and maybe a little more work in the passing game.
26:53It was just the passing game was impossible last week because of the raw wet conditions in Chicago.
26:59And Jones has always been a pretty good pass catcher.
27:02So I'd expect him to maybe augment his rushing numbers with a few catches this week.
27:06We're going to do the last one here. I just want to take one little backtrack because I was trying to get
27:12this to pull this up while we were talking, but then you guys moved on.
27:17So I wanted to come back to it. But I just wanted to put this out with Devon H and just an
27:23interesting thing over on fantasy points as I was going through some data.
27:27If you sort by 25 carries or more, there are 14 backs that have a 40% or worse stuff rate.
27:33So getting stuffed 14 backs. Devon H has the second worst stuff rate of all 14 of those backs.
27:38He has the worst success rate as well of all of those backs.
27:42So just an interesting thing. And like we're seeing the volume, but in that offense trying to be efficient, you know, only
27:48actually only four backs, by the way, have a 50% or higher stuff rate.
27:52The other backs are really good, but the success rate that also second worst in missed tackles of that entire group is
27:59that pretty telling to defense is just not threatened.
28:01I mean, this makes sense because why would you be threatened by the Dolphins receivers?
28:06Right. A hundred percent. You stop H and you stop the Miami Dolphins offense.
28:10So I think but it does go back to we see this sometimes when teams load up the box to stop the run.
28:16Yes, they create a lot of negative plays. But if H and just makes one guy miss, there's no more guy at
28:23the second level and then it's off to the races.
28:26Which he hasn't been doing. Hasn't done yet. But you do know it's it's very much.
28:30It's not like he's never going to have an explosive run all year long.
28:34Like, yeah, he's too good of a player. So that's just something to kind of keep in mind.
28:40Eventually, he's going to have a couple big runs here, especially first home game.
28:44So maybe this could be the spot for him.
28:46Yeah. And I only brought it up because when I got to I was like, I wonder what is like, you know, getting stuff.
28:53What's the stuff percentage? And when I noticed it was number two among all those running backs and then also hit the worst success rate.
29:00I thought it was valuable to just talk about here for a second to bring us back.
29:05But let's go to the final running back of this range.
29:08And it's Basial Tootin who comes in at RB 23.
29:11You guys have a little bit of a split here because this is a tough matchup against New England.
29:17This is, I think, one of just a handful of like one star matchups that are out there.
29:22He has been efficient. Obviously, we've seen some Chris Rodriguez.
29:25Fitzy, you are the low man. You've actually pushed Tootin outside of the RB twos.
29:29It's 25. But, you know, he's always right there.
29:32But he's not a RB two for you this week when he comes in at 23.
29:36Talk to us about Basial Tootin against the Patriots.
29:39Yeah, maybe I should like him a little more than I do.
29:4313 carries 65 yards and a touchdown last week.
29:45And the touchdown came on a goal line carry from the one yard line.
29:49So that's good. Had 88 yards from scrimmage in week one.
29:52I guess my only reservations are that I'm still not totally sold on the Jaguars offensive line, even though it does currently
29:59rank seventh in the adjusted line yards run blocking metric.
30:02And the other thing, Tootin only has three targets over his first two games.
30:06Yeah, I thought he'd be way more involved in that at least.
30:09But Erickson, where are you at with Basial Tootin?
30:12I think you do have him. You actually have him.
30:15Now I'm looking one spot higher than ECR. Not that you're pounding the table for him, but you have him as an RB two this week.
30:22So a little bit more optimistic against your Patriots defense.
30:25Yeah, because I think that when you look at the strengths of the Patriots, it's Christian Gonzalez and it's their interior defensive line with Milton Williams, Christian Barrymore.
30:33That's where you want to avoid those types of rushes.
30:36Whereas Tootin, if he gets to the outside, like this is where he's off to the races.
30:41And the pass game usage has been underwhelming, but it's not for a lack of effort.
30:46Like they have been trying to get him going and he's actually had two catches the last two weeks that have come
30:52back on penalties where it looked like, oh, he's being sprung loose for a big run or a big play.
30:58But it just hasn't come to fruition because there's been a holding penalty or something along those lines.
31:03But it's clearly something they are trying to get him going with getting him outside.
31:07And that was the only thing the Steelers could do against Patriots offense was Jalen Warren, like Jalen Warren.
31:13Save us, please rip off a big play because he's good.
31:16And the same thing with week one with Jadarian Price.
31:19Like he looked really efficient shot of a cannon against his Patriots run defense.
31:23So the fact that Tootin is kind of cleared his way as the RB one that he got a wildcat carry at
31:29the one yard line suggests, OK, he's still going to get red zone opportunities.
31:33And look, I mean, I think that he's continuing to trend in the right direction.
31:38No massive explosive games. And we may need like a Miami Dolphins matchup for Tootin to really explode.
31:43I'm not saying this is an explosion spot for him, but I think that he's just going to keep chugging along like
31:49the little tugboat that could Bay shell Tootin. And I think that he's going to keep chugging along here.
31:55So I like him as a back end RB too.
31:58By the way, just keep it. I have my same sorted out filtering by 25 carries.
32:02Bay shell Tootin fifth best success rate of running backs with the second best missed force tackles per attempt.
32:08So the Ken Walker is number one forcing the most missed tackles.
32:11Bay shell Tootin is number two and he's got a top five success rate.
32:15So pretty solid for Tootin there. All right. We're going to go to our final set on the RBs here.
32:21The flex RB threes, 25 through 36. And we start with quinch on.
32:25Jutkins coming in at 25. Travis H in at 26.
32:28We've got Travion Henderson. There's our new addition there.
32:30Tony Pollard at 28. Ramander Stevenson at 29. Blake Corm at 30.
32:34And the bottom half is common on guy. Jonah Coleman at 32.
32:37Corey cross. Kimeric, Kalon Black, Woody Marks, Marshawn Lloyd.
32:40Quinch on Judkins. You guys are split on this guy.
32:43You guys are both higher, but one of you really, really likes Quinch on Judkins this week.
32:48And that's the undertaker. Andrew Erickson, not with an under.
32:50You've got him at 15 versus the ECR of 25.
32:53Fitzy's in the twenties here. So we should probably just start with you Erickson simply because this is your guy this week.
33:00Yes. He was by sit of the week. The last two weeks.
33:03He, I bet the under on his rushing yards two weeks in a row.
33:07Not the case in week three. It is Judkins overs.
33:10It is Judkins start of the week because this is a whole different projection for him for me because first two weeks
33:16of the season, brutal matchups on the road for the Cleveland Browns facing at Jacksonville, who was one of the best run defense in the NFL last year.
33:25Still is. And then Tampa Bay, we just talked about again on the road, bad offensive lines.
33:29Don't travel. The Browns don't have a good offensive line.
33:32They have a young offensive line, but things are starting to gel for them a little bit.
33:37Now they get their first home game. Now with the Sean Watson starting, is it really a home game remains to be seen.
33:44It seems like they're a little bit more open to it after they finally won a game, but I don't expect the
33:50crowd to always be on the side of the Browns offense.
33:53That being said, it is a little bit easier for that offensive line to communicate when they're playing in Cleveland and Judkins
34:00has a bell cow role without Dylan. Samson in a lineup 67% snap share last week.
34:04He had five catches for 27 yards on five targets.
34:07So obviously the rushing efficiency has been brutal, but I think that's really been more to the matchups that he's had.
34:13He's probably faced the two toughest run defenses on the road to start the season.
34:18And that's why I was talking about avoiding him as a draft target all season because you're going to draft him and
34:24he's gonna be a landmine for the first two weeks.
34:27But now he gets the Carolina Panthers, who arguably one of the worst run defenses in the NFL.
34:32They're playing at home. Judkins is a three down skill set without Dylan Samson in a lineup and Deshaun Watson is coming off a good game.
34:40So honestly, when I'm looking at my rankings, I feel better about Judkins this week than Omerion Hampton.
34:45Ooh, maybe make that change. I already did. Maybe I moved.
34:48I moved Hampton down to RB 15 again, like they're both bell cow guys, but Judkins projects to have a better role in the passing game.
34:56He's got a better matchup. He's playing at home and he can't get game scripted out.
35:00So and like from a talent perspective, who was better last year?
35:04I don't I don't think it was. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it was Hampton like Hampton was hurt though.
35:10So yeah, it's tough to say. I know what you're I know what you're getting at.
35:14But Judkins like I mean, dude, he was a Junkins with beast mode.
35:18It's weird. It's weird being where we are with Judkins now versus last year.
35:22We were very pro him. I actually do agree with you that this is his opportunity to break back out.
35:28Like I think it would behoove the Browns after, you know, that efficiency that they were able to get out of Deshaun
35:34Watson to come out and just bang the ball on the ground for a little bit.
35:39Set up some play action. Let Watson be efficient with his, you know, two new weapons and Casey and Denzel Boston.
35:45So I agree with you. I think they want to get Judkins going.
35:49And this seems like a get right spot fits.
35:51You agree not to the level of like top 15, but you are higher than ECR on Judkins.
35:57So what do you want to add on him?
35:59It does seem like a good spot. I just wonder about the offensive line, like because right now Judkins is averaging 2.3
36:06yards per carry behind this totally rebuilt offensive line that ranks dead last in adjusted line yards.
36:10But Cleveland's adjusted line yards number 2.40. Next worst number is 2.88, which, by the way, belongs to Erickson's New England Patriots.
36:17Oh, we just lost our offensive starting guard. Yeah, let's go.
36:20Oh, and by the way, weird statistical oddity like Javante Williams.
36:23Quinch on Judkins has had exactly 12 carries in each of his first two games and has not had a run of 10 or more yards.
36:31Hmm. Well, going to break that this week, hopefully.
36:33Streaks for meant to be broken. Speaking of speaking of Travion Henderson and or the Patriots, and we go to Travion Henderson in here.
36:40He comes in and he jumps over Ramondre Stevenson after last week, the fumble Travion gets the usage.
36:45He's 27. You guys are pretty lockstep. Fitzy, you are an ECR.
36:49Erickson's one spot lower. What is your confidence level in Travion Henderson going into this week?
36:54Do you think I kind of feel like based on your rank, Fitzy, and I'm not seeing Ramondre's where you have him.
37:00But are you thinking this is going to be a split that has the slight favor to Travion?
37:05Do you think there's an opportunity where Travion can can break out?
37:09What's your take on him for week three? I mean, I'm team Travion and it seemed wild to me that the majority
37:15of the fantasy intelligentsia had Ramondre ahead of Travion in their draft rankings when Travion has so much more juice than Ramondre.
37:21I mean, just I can't get that three week stretch out of my head from last year when Stevenson was out and
37:28Henderson had like 330 scrimmage yards and five touchdowns over those three weeks.
37:31You know, and then Henderson also had two other two touchdown games when Ramondre Stevenson was playing.
37:36So I do think just we saw in week one when Henderson wasn't playing against Seattle like the Patriots offense just felt kind of constricted.
37:44They needed that running back with like breakaway potential.
37:46And I do think it's going to be high variance with Henderson week to week.
37:51Some games you're going to get the big runs.
37:53Some games you won't. And some games he's going to really let you down in some games.
37:58He's going to have some pretty good results like he had in week two.
38:02So, you know, I just so I'm right on ECR.
38:05I think he's viable RB to flex play this week, but it could be really boomer bust.
38:10Yeah, I mean, I guess I mean your take there was a little bit like overarching if you were to pick a
38:16defense like this might be one of those where it's a little bit more bust.
38:21But it's a Jaguars defense. So like this might not be the matchup that you love, but he also has the ability
38:27to just in one play make the big thing happen.
38:30Is that kind of what you're with Erickson that like I would imagine you I mean, you know, we've talked to the
38:36beat writers and everyone said it was kind of Ramondre at least early on.
38:40This isn't a great matchup. Travion had his breakout.
38:43Like, how are you piecing this situation together? You're one spot lower than ECR on him.
38:47I think that fits kind of outlined it perfectly where Henderson is going to be kind of boomer bust because you don't
38:54know exactly what his workload is going to be like.
38:57We don't know if Stevenson is going to fumble again.
39:00And obviously last week, that's what really helped Henderson get additional touches because Stevenson fumbled on the first drive.
39:05But then the team went back to him a little bit in the second half of the game, even though there was
39:11a time when it was all Henderson and Henderson paid off because he had that massive run.
39:16But in terms of who had a higher success rate, it was Stevenson on a down to down carry basis.
39:22Stevenson was a little bit more consistent than Henderson was, but Henderson is the guy that can hit the home run.
39:28So neither of these guys, I don't think you're feeling super great about in a relatively bad matchup.
39:33The Jaguars have been good against running backs, but if you're banking on one guy to rip off the big plates, obviously
39:40going to be Henderson that does it. So that's why he should be ranked higher than Stevenson.
39:45But to the point of the Jaguars defensive line, the fact that the Patriots offensive line is banged up.
39:50They're playing on the road. Stevenson's still trusted more in pass protection like he's going to be out there.
39:56So I think it's going to be a 60 40 type of split in favor of Henderson, but game script can dictate how that potentially could change.
40:03Stevenson fumbles again. What happens there? Does Henderson get more work?
40:07And also Henderson didn't get really any work in the receiving game last week either, which was also kind of bizarre, even
40:13though we know that's part of his skill sets, part of Stevenson skill set, too.
40:17So, yeah, these ones are flex plays at best.
40:20And I think that you're definitely feeling way better about Henderson this week.
40:24I think that's going to be reflective in consensus where he's ahead of Stevenson.
40:28I cannot get out of you guys saw it.
40:30Get the interview out of my head of Travion and we could play it.
40:34I would love to play it where like he doesn't understand the concept of efficiency.
40:39And it's just the reporter asked him, like, you want to work on being more consistent with, you know, efficient running?
40:45He's like, what? And he does it again. And he's just like, what?
40:49It's like, dude, where's my car? And then like, then the guy breaks it down.
40:53He like breaks it all the way down. And then he's just like, I guess it's just like, OK, like that.
40:59Trust that moving forward. Henderson was eight carries for 11 yards.
41:02Yeah, that sounds about right. But don't tell him he's not going to.
41:06He's not going to understand. In one ear and out the other.
41:09Yeah, I don't know. All right. We got two more.
41:12Let's do kind of quick hitters on this because then I want to get to your deeper options, though.
41:18I do think this one maybe specifically deserves a tiny bit more of the attention.
41:22Jonah Coleman. Jonah Coleman is tricky. I think for a lot of people, I think he'll be on the fringes.
41:28And I imagine there's going to be a lot of questions about him this week.
41:32He comes in at ECR 32. And yet again, you both have him higher.
41:36Fitzy, you are the high dog, too. You've almost got Jonah Coleman as an RV to at 26.
41:41So talk to us about what you saw to Jonah Coleman and what you think we're going to see this week.
41:48So this ranking did assume that J.K. Dobbins wouldn't play after reportedly tweaking his hamstring last week.
41:52And I did think it was odd that a source told Tom Pellicero that Dobbins was, quote unquote, good despite the tweak.
41:59Now we're getting reporting that it was leg cramping and possibly not a hamstring.
42:03So if Dobbins plays, I'm going to have to drop Coleman into the area where Erickson and ECR have him ranked like
42:09mid range to low end RB three. But I do think he's going to be flex worthy with RJ Harvey, presumably still out with an actual hamstring injury.
42:17If Erickson, do you feel confident that he's still going to be flex worthy?
42:21If one of those backs is back, if it's Dobbins or it's Harvey likely to be Dobbins, you still feel comfortable in the flex range?
42:29What like was your rank reflective of him? I can't imagine this is reflective of him.
42:33Just both of the other backs being out that this was with Dobbins in there.
42:38But what do you think? I think it was kind of like a hedge ranking in terms of trying to gather more
42:44information about what other Broncos running backs are going to be involved.
42:47Because even if, for example, Harvey was out, Dobbins is out.
42:51Coleman's not going to play 80 percent of the snaps for the Denver Broncos, right?
42:55They're going to involve some of the guys like Tyler Bidet.
42:58You saw he was still involved, especially as a pass catcher for the Denver Broncos in week two with RJ Harvey not in the lineup.
43:05I do think it's interesting that Coleman among running backs in week two, 1.3 yards after contact per attempt.
43:11That was actually the worst among all running backs.
43:13It was actually worse than Quijot Dudkins and in week two.
43:17So I just thought that was kind of an interesting note.
43:20Although I thought that he did rip off some explosive runs.
43:23He is like a bowling ball type of guy like that is Jonah Coleman, not the speed guy or anything like that.
43:29Rams isn't the easiest matchup in the world, and especially what their defense did to the Giants.
43:34James Winston, they did not really look that great offensively.
43:37So the fact that's also a Sunday night game is also concerning because when do we get this information?
43:43Right. Are you willing to throw out Jonah Coleman without knowing Dobbins game time decision?
43:47Because if he plays, I don't feel nearly as great about playing Jonah Coleman as an RB to or a flex play
43:53if Dobbins is out there because he's only to get the probably lion's share of the carries.
43:58But then there's also the scenario where it's also J.K.
44:01Dobbins. This guy is made of glass and he's always hurt.
44:04So he could play one snap like, oh, actually, well, the hamstring not cramps.
44:08And then Coleman smashes and you didn't play him because J.K.
44:12Dobbins was active. So a lot to unravel here and peel back the onions on this Broncos backfield.
44:17But Jonah Coleman's obviously someone you got to keep up to date with the ranks.
44:21It's going to be very fluid as we move around with more information.
44:25All right. Last one. This is a quick hitter here is is Marshawn Lloyd the trap of the week.
44:30He is listed as a top 36 RB. You guys both have them in the 40s.
44:35Erickson, you were the lowest. You've got him at like 45.
44:38Is Marshawn Lloyd a trap start if people put him in?
44:41I don't know how you can feel good about starting him when people have him at 36.
44:46So someone does. I mean, 36 is not a vote of confidence for a supposedly starting running back against the Atlanta Falcons.
44:53I mean, because I again and again, like fits as our Packers home resident here.
44:57Do you have confidence? I mean, like they're using all three different guys like Caleb Johnson got more run.
45:02He actually led the Packers in terms of the total rushing yards.
45:06He was the guy that used in overtime after Marshawn Lloyd fumbled.
45:09Now, I don't know how much blame you can put on Lloyd because everybody was fumbling in that game.
45:15It was a wet field for the New York Jets and the Green Bay Packers.
45:19But the fact that yeah, Caleb Johnson led Green Bay and carries best were coming in the overtime.
45:24So I'm going to leave it here to fits because I know we're both low on Marshawn Lloyd.
45:30And I just don't I don't think Lloyd's look that good.
45:33They're two games. Yeah, I feel good doing the waiver show with Fitzy.
45:37I knew this was coming with Marshawn Lloyd. I knew this like take in the rank was going to be there because
45:43Fitzy you were talking up Caleb a little bit on that waiver show.
45:47So let's get your take on it. He looked better than Lloyd.
45:50But whether you play Caleb different story, I would not play Lloyd.
45:54It's a three way backfield behind the worst offensive line in the league, which just lost its one good lineman.
45:59It's right tackle Zach Bacoboel, gone for the season with a torn patellar.
46:03So, yeah, and Caleb looked better. And the backfield split is just so messy.
46:07All right. Final backs then. Each of you have got a deep play.
46:11This is a running back that is not inside the top 36 listed here, but you guys have as a top 36.
46:17Fitzy, why don't you give us your deeper running back play for the week?
46:21Woody Marks. I have ranked running back 35. He's played 49% of the Texans offensive snaps, only three fewer snaps than David Montgomery.
46:28And he's had 23 touches over Houston's first two games.
46:31And they play the Colts. The Colts are a come one, come all matchup for running backs.
46:36I don't think it's possible to overstate how bad the Colts defense has been so far.
46:40Their linebackers are completely atrocious. The Colts have a lot of the second most rushing yards and the second most receiving yards to running back so far.
46:48They're giving up 202 yards per game to our bees through the first two weeks.
46:53Granted, that was against Derrick Henry and Kenneth Walker, the third.
46:56And Woody Marks is not as good as those guys.
46:59Doesn't start for his own team. But the Colts defense is a train wreck.
47:03Erickson, your deep play running back. I like this one.
47:06I have this guy higher as well this week.
47:08Rashad White for the Washington Commanders going up against the juggernaut Seattle Seahawks defense.
47:12Seattle basically stops everything you do offensively except for running backs in the passing game.
47:17That is basically the only way you can move the football.
47:20And really, it's more about schematics that they're more than happy to just let offenses check it down to opposing running backs.
47:26And for our purposes for fantasy football, that's exactly what we want if you're trying to look at Rashad White as a
47:32desperation RB2 or flex play, especially in full PPR.
47:35Through two games, Seattle ranks third in receptions allowed to running backs, 10th in targets to running backs.
47:40Last season, they ranked first in catches, first in targets to running backs.
47:44I've hit the over on both of my props for running backs against this defense from Andre week one.
47:50Jeremiah Love, I was handholding with you, Welsh, on the prop show.
47:53We got there. We barely got, we squeaked by 15 and a half.
47:57We got there. We squeaked by. And I think it's just going to continue here with Rashad White.
48:02I looked at his prop. It's actually two and a half.
48:05So that's going to be a spoiler. That's going to be one of my best bets on the betting pro show this week.
48:12Take me over. I would have had that. We were both over 500.
48:16So it was a pretty good week. I can't get a touchdown call for life for me, but check it out over on betting pros.
48:23All right, there you go. Those are the RB rings.
48:26Lots to talk about, as you guys can tell.
48:28Drop in the comments below some of your favorite running back plays.
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48:57And hopefully we can help you do that with the running backs.
49:01That's going to do it for RBs. More ranked shows coming up here.
49:04So make sure you check that out for Andrew Erickson and Pat Fitzmaurice.
49:08I'm Chris Welsh. Thank you guys for hanging out with us.
49:11Good luck in week three. And we'll talk to you next time right here on fantasy pros.
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