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0:24All right, and welcome into Fantasy Pros Live on the Twitch channel at twitch.tv slash Fantasy Pros.
0:29That's the place to be. It's Thursday, July 16th.
0:31One day prior to when all NFL rookies will start to begin showing up to training camp.
0:36And with it beginning to be that time of year again, we've got another Fantasy Football Q&A coming your way right here answering your burning questions.
0:44I'm your host, Seth Woolcock. Back in the swing of things with a man who I'll get to see his big, beautiful bald head in the next week.
0:52Love him or hate him. He's going to keep it 100.
0:56He's Derek Brown. D-Bro, pleasure to be chopping up with you today.
0:59What are the vibes like on your end as we prepare for just this onslaught of reports coming out of camp in the next few weeks?
1:07Ready for it because we need actual news. I'm tired of all this like fluff and filler and BS kind of like franchise tag day.
1:14What will or will not George Pickens do? Except we know exactly what he's going to do because he's been saying what
1:21he's going to do and he did what he's going to do.
1:25So, no, I'm ready for it, man. I love this time of year because, you know, the ebbs and flows of the
1:31offseason and we're getting that much closer to finding out if all the things we think could happen in 2026 actually happened, Seth.
1:38It's great. I know all the speculation will soon be put to bed.
1:42I think we're only about maybe 50 or so days out from the actual kickoff of the regular season.
1:47So coming downhill at a very high speed and go ahead, folks, and drop your fantasy football questions below.
1:53We'll try to get to them in roughly the next 60 or so minutes.
1:57And a quick reminder, please make sure you follow and subscribe if you're already.
2:01And also don't forget to check out all the video on demand content on the fantasy pros YouTube account, as well as
2:08the audio content after this live stream. We'd really appreciate you doing that to get yourself ready for draft day.
2:14And before we dive in there, I need your help and I need the audience help to help me settle kind of an internal debate I've been having.
2:22I put it out on social media. No one to weigh in.
2:26So I'm going to bring my dilemma here. If we go ahead and bring that up, Sal, I want the people back
2:32at home to let me know what Steelers jersey should I be buying this season?
2:37What's the top? We got two options right now.
2:40This is easy. Okay, this is this is you have former Navy man, an absolute stallion out there on the field for
2:46the midshipman now returning to his hometown of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Eli Heidenreich, right?
2:50Or you have drew Aller. I am a Penn State fan.
2:53Keep that in mind. Six, five, two 30 guys got an absolute cannon drafted in the third round.
2:59What do you think here, Derek? What direction should I go?
3:02Should I go with, you know, the man who put his life on the line for our country or the man who
3:08put his life on the line for my school of choice?
3:12I think I'm with TCB when it's all said and done.
3:15I think three option three, save your money. But there is no way in hell I will put actual monetary means behind buying anything drew Aller.
3:23I know you really want like to like have that's almost kind of like one of those.
3:28Remember when remember this player kind of tweet. It's no, there's not going to be a good era.
3:33There is not going to be a drew Aller era of Pittsburgh football.
3:37It's just not going to happen, dude. So no, Eli Heiden, right?
3:41Who a player that we both really, really enjoy in the pre-draft process.
3:44Love his fit with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Hopefully we get him on the field.
3:49I think they should still transition him to slot wide receiver.
3:52That remains to be seen if that ever happens, but I think that that's the way that this should go.
3:58And this is easily Eli Heidenreich. I'm curious with the chat, please weigh in, you know, outside of options of Seth, just
4:04not throwing away and burning 50 or $60. Where does the chat go with this one?
4:09Because for me, it's clear Eli. Also a Pittsburgh native.
4:12I love how you buried all of that. You didn't even give him.
4:16I didn't. I said he returned home. It wasn't strong enough.
4:19You didn't give him the true hometown bump. Cause I feel like you're kind of shading this.
4:24You're kind of putting your thumb on the scale a little bit, Seth, for your boy drew our, am I wrong here?
4:31Cause I kind of feel like that's what's happening.
4:34Yes, you are right. I do. I am already leaning towards drew Aller and the reasons are twofold.
4:39One, if I get the white one, I can wear it to any Penn state game.
4:44Do you like pain? That's why right in. So like, you know, go, I can add to the white out.
4:50If I get to go to a white out again sometime soon.
4:53And also if that's not the case, they also have the drew Aller one in my size already in stock.
4:59I'd have to wait a couple of weeks for the, the Heidenreich one.
5:03So I was like, Oh, I kind of just want to, you know, get it now, or it's probably gonna be halfway
5:10through the season before I get it. So, you know what I mean?
5:13Oh, wow. Yeah. You got to wait for the one that I'm sure they have plenty in stock and in certain areas
5:20of Pittsburgh, they're probably just giving away our jerseys as opposed to what's the old adage, Seth.
5:25Good things come to those that, Oh, buy it immediately.
5:28But no, no, that's not it. I forget the rest of it.
5:32Who knows? All right. Well, let us know down in the comments below.
5:36We're curious. You guys have thoughts, Derek. I appreciate you helping me out and steer me in the right direction, even though
5:42I knew probably what direction you're going to head either way.
5:45Did you get a Mike McCarthy Jersey? Could you just go that go head coach and just throw everybody for a loop?
5:52No, that doesn't fit the Penn state. I don't hate it.
5:55I don't hate it. Honestly. Like he's another, he's another Pittsburgh type of guy.
5:59I could go with like, I've been thinking about getting a Joey Porter junior Jersey too.
6:04Cause then I could also wear that to Penn state games, but I'm, Oh yeah.
6:09And so they don't re-sign him and he's gone in as a free agent in a year.
6:14We're not going to have that conversation. Dude, can we ever have that be a thing by the way?
6:19Quick aside. What if head coaches had to start wearing jerseys on the sideline?
6:23Like how wonderful, how wonderful would that be to see Andy Reed in all of his glory, just rocking like a double zero dude.
6:31Like that needs to be a thing for the NFL.
6:34Would they get the pick numbers? Yes. They get the pick numbers.
6:37They get the pick numbers. Like the coaching staff should also wear jerseys, just like the players.
6:42Like, let's just go full on Jersey mode here.
6:45Like, am I crazy? Wouldn't that be entertaining? I think we might've figured something out here.
6:50I think we need to keep that in the bag and maybe we pitch that to the NFL ourselves.
6:55Like we can, we can come up with them if they need a little help on the stitching.
7:01And we got the fancy pro shop team that I'm sure.
7:04Even let them go off script, go off script.
7:07They don't have to have numbers. They could pick like, like symbols, like Andy Reed could be just rocking like an exclamation point.
7:13Or like a cheeseburger. Would that be okay? Yeah.
7:16Like an emoji. Sponsored by In-N-Out Burger. Andy Reed.
7:19Oh, we got some comments in the chat here.
7:21We got a thought to Ms. Prime saying, uh, Andy Reed in short time would be intimidating.
7:27Uh, we got metal jeans checking. Oh, what's up, James?
7:30Great to see you. Hello, James. Um, and then of course we have some people still weighing in.
7:35Uh, TCB saying, I've got kid number three on the way.
7:38Uh, I'll take your money if you really just want to get rid of it that bad.
7:43I was like, TCB's going to put like a Venmo link in the, uh, chat.
7:48Hey man, kid number three ain't no joke, dude.
7:50Daycares are, uh, whoa, baby. Yeah. These days. So there are certainly worse causes that people have been donating to online over the past.
7:58Oh man. Yeah. So GoFundMe is getting shut down for all the right reasons.
8:02Uh, yeah. We could dance and have a long conversation about all that and skeletons in closets, but, uh, you know, I digress.
8:09We'll just tiptoe past that. Yeah. Let's go to agent 45, uh, of Kappa Noah saying, uh, first time playing IDP this year.
8:15We'll be using ESPN's default scoring. Any recommendations for preparing for this draft?
8:19I would say really Derek, it's twofold. One, it's going to fans, pros.com slash rankings.
8:24It's going to our IDP section, looking all the wonderful people and all their great rankings they've put in there.
8:30And also fancy pros, uh, mock draft simulator too.
8:32That's another great way to continue to prepare. I got option three for you too.
8:37Yeah, please do. Yeah. Head into the discord, get into the fantasy pros discord and my option three, which actually should be
8:43option number one or two is you need to message Scott Bogman.
8:47That, that, that, that is the three recommendations. Yes.
8:50Okay. Yep. And then, uh, yeah, uh, Sal in the back end, let us know that there's a new IDP articles out on the site right now.
8:58So always great resources across the board. Also we'll talk about it later, but draft Intel that can give you a little
9:04more information about your league mates if they've been drafting in this league for a little bit.
9:09So lots of great options. You came to the right place, uh, agent of Kappa Noah, Derek and I personally, we don't
9:16play in a ton of IDP leagues anymore. No, and I will not pretend to be an IDP.
9:21Yeah. I mean, we can get, we can go, you know, rose deep when it comes to our player rankings, dynasty redraft.
9:28I just put out my top 300 Debbie rankings as well.
9:31So we can go different streets. That's one street though.
9:34That is closed for us there. Um, but let's get to a thought to miss his question here.
9:39Can Chris Godwin return to his pre-injury form? What do you think here about this one, Derek?
9:44Because it's hard to say pre-injury form because because for that 2024 injury, this guy was wide receiver two on the season.
9:51Right. So like, I don't see that in his cards, but I think he's a serviceable flex, but I don't know if the upside is certainly there.
9:59Like it was a couple of years ago yourself.
10:02I mean, that, that, that's a perfect way to frame this.
10:05Like which pre-injury form are you talking about going back to?
10:08And I think the biggest bump for Chris Godwin that could happen this year is a return to the slot.
10:14Like, I think that that can definitely, and him being a slot heavy player, which last year, like you saw when he
10:21was on the field, I mean, the dude had 104 routes on the outside versus 131 in the slot.
10:26Like that needs to tip more towards the slot because, you know, separation scores were massively improved from the slot.
10:32His win rate per route looked massively different. Like from the outside, 8.7% versus 13%.
10:37And just to give context to that, 8.7% is terrible.
10:40Like we were discussing like that is wide receiver for wide receiver five, like replacement level below replacement level.
10:45So for Chris Godwin, he needs to be a slot reliant player.
10:49He needs to go back. And I think to get the most out of Chris Godwin this year, we need to see a Chris Godwin.
10:56That's probably like at least 60% in the slot this year.
11:00Now the question is, do we get that? Remains to be seen.
11:03I think looking at Chris Godwin as anything more than like a solid wide receiver three this season is you're probably asking
11:10for too much out of Chris Godwin at this point in his career.
11:14Completely agreed. Consensus right now in the Fantasy Pros ECR rankings, fantasypros.com slash rankings.
11:18You can go there and see Chris Godwin, wide receiver 36, 85 overall.
11:22I'm at 38, Derek. So like I'm kind of in that same range.
11:26Like could I move him above Michael Wilson to get him to 37?
11:29That's like the internal debate I've been having for a couple of weeks just because of the shade we've been throwing on
11:36Michael Wilson really over the last couple of weeks.
11:39But is that kind of the same range for you right there back in early four?
11:43Yeah, I've got him at wide receiver 44. There's other guys that I like there.
11:48Like I know he's behind him. Like I will handedly take Ricky Pearsall.
11:52I like Quentin Johnston more. Give me like all the rookie guys like Kyle Lemon, Jordan Tyson, Casey Concepcion.
11:57I have him. I've also got the two other guys that are in that area code, but I had them above them because they're younger.
12:05And I think you're getting more upside out of them is Romeo Dobbs and Jaden Higgins.
12:10So like I'm not drafting Chris Godwin over any of those guys I just mentioned.
12:14Like I'm just not doing it. Yeah, you're probably not getting them then because there's still people.
12:19No, I'm not. That's fine. Yeah. All good. Shout out to Van Rod in the chat.
12:24What's up? Great to see you, Van Rod. One of our many loyal listeners here.
12:28And the fantasy goat 42, baby. He's saying what round you drafted Josh Allen and a four-point passing touchdown, six-point rushing touchdown.
12:35So standard. Basically just standard QB score. Yeah. Where are you at here on Josh Allen?
12:40Because he isn't a tier by himself for me.
12:42I just don't know if I'll be getting him currently.
12:45Like where I have. I'm 27 overall in my rankings, but it's still hard for me to click the button when there's
12:52so many good quarterbacks going out of value this season.
12:55I have him at 28th overall. ECR has him at 26th overall.
12:58So we're right basically in line with ECR. Now, am I drafting any quarterback in round three of any draft this year?
13:05No, I'm not doing it. So I will have probably zero exposure to Josh Allen.
13:10Okay. I'm just not paying up for quarterbacks this year.
13:12I am all in on late round quarterback. Like there are too many really freaking good options that offer not only like
13:19top seven type of upside, but maybe like touching top five if everything works out.
13:23So I just can't pay up now. Like, is that also to say like, you know, could Josh Allen be a difference
13:30maker again at the quarterback position again this year?
13:33Sure. That could possibly happen, but you need that to happen.
13:36And him to distance himself from everybody massively for him to like truly pay off.
13:40Because if you're not going running back wide receiver or going premium tight end, you're playing catch up at one of those
13:47positions, more likely running back and wide receivers. So this is also saying with the caveat of like, and Josh Allen, if
13:54you're drafting him, you got to hit some other guys like in these middle or late rounds to make up for the fact that you're doing that.
14:02Now, underscoring all of this. If, if I were to go the Josh Allen route, this would be a particular set of
14:08circumstances in, I would have to be in an eight or 10 team format in those two more condensed formats and smaller leagues.
14:15I am at least like considering it because those onesie positions and with everybody fielding all-star lineups, I'm more likely to at least consider the proposition of that.
14:23Because if you're winning for the onesies with elites, then you're crushing everybody else because of the depth and stuff like that.
14:30That's how you distance yourself in those smaller, like eight or 10 team leagues, like to where you can build a monster
14:36that stands above everybody else's monster squads. Yeah. I feel like my strategy quarterback, probably pretty similar to yours this year.
14:43Like I'm okay with spending a six round pick on Jalen hurts.
14:46I'm okay with waiting for the seventh or eighth to go after dart.
14:50And if I don't get either one of those guys, I'm kind of just waiting until like Jared golf, Malik Willis come around.
14:57Like that's kind of been the one, two combo.
15:00I've been hitting a lot behind it. Some Patrick, my homes as well, just like late.
15:04I mean, I'm talking 13th, 14th round for these guys.
15:07You know what I mean? It's like, is that kind of how you're playing at that position too?
15:13I am. And, and, uh, I want to highlight full sins comment here in the chat too.
15:18What is late round? Uh, exactly. And to me, like I, I, I framed this out on, uh, on X the other
15:24day was if you're looking at guys that are past like the top 90 players, that to me, like we're talking about,
15:31like you're into like, like the eighth round basically is what we're kind of discussing here.
15:36That is a late round quarterback. And right now you can get, and just to illustrate our point here, you can get
15:42freaking Jackson dart, Brock Purdy, Bo Nix, um, even going down further down, like Jordan love, uh, Baker Mayfield, Tyler Shuck, Malik
15:49Willis, all of these guys out outside of the top 90 players.
15:52Like just to be kind of rewind for everybody to understand Jackson dart.
15:56If you take out the freaking game where he scored one point against the Minnesota Vikings, he averaged over 22 fantasy points per game.
16:03That was better than even Josh Allen. That would have been the QB one in fantasy.
16:08Like that's what I term as a late round quarterback.
16:11Brock Purdy is being drafted at this point, although he just consistently rolls out of bed and he's a top 12 quarterback every single season.
16:19Bo Nix, the same thing. Patrick Mahomes is going in that rain range.
16:22If you want to go down that road with Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield has top 12 history, uh, on his resume, same thing for Jordan love.
16:30Tyler Shuck was a top 12 quarterback in weeks 12 through 18.
16:34Malik Willis is free Konami upside. You get a QB freaking 21.
16:37Like all of these are, I know draft two of these guys.
16:41Hell you got deep benches draft three cut one by week four.
16:44I don't care. You're getting top 12 quarterback play out of possibly one of those guys.
16:49And good Lord. If you want to play the matchups, if you hit Yahtzee every single week and you play the matchups
16:56perfectly, you might be getting top five quarterback play when it's all said and done out of these guys.
17:01I'm with you there. There are more and more reasons to continue to just kind of fade the quarterback position at the
17:08top of the draft, unless you get an insane value.
17:11But, uh, we, we appreciate the question. Nonetheless, uh, in the fall up there from full send, uh, TCB has got a
17:17great question here for actual fantasy questions here. My league is in an auction draft.
17:22How does your strategy differ there versus the snake drafts that dominate most of our content?
17:27Derek, I love auction drafts. This is another format.
17:29It's been a few years since I've been in one.
17:32I would love to do one of these in person specifically though.
17:36I remember we, we would do this in our league when we first started playing against football back in the day.
17:42And it was so much fun. So I would love to do an auction draft, but for me, my strategy with the,
17:49this has always kind of been simple. I'm going to offer up when it's my part, like time to put someone on the block.
17:56I'm offering a player. That's going to get a ton of money going his way that I have no interest in taking
18:02almost kind of like a Josh Allen, right? Put Josh Allen on the block, put someone else that I'm kind of fading
18:09at one of these, you know, higher end, uh, draft capital type of players.
18:13That that's kind of how I like to go about these auction drafts.
18:17Do you have a specific, uh, uh, you know, just recipe for success when it comes to auctions there?
18:23So Sal toss us into the chat. I actually just gave the link.
18:27So on fantasy pros.com, we do have auction values and we have an auction value calculator that it kind of like also
18:33goes toward if you're half point, uh, your half point, your standard or your PPR scoring, you can also change the league size.
18:40You could change, uh, what your budget is for anything from a hundred dollars to all the way to a thousand and hit calculate.
18:47And it's going to help you spit out all of that.
18:50So kind of giving you a roadmap. So that should be a really, a good North star or a compass for you.
18:57The other part about this with, with auction drafts is if you've been doing it for multiple years, then you kind of
19:03understand your league and where they're going to go guys that pay up for certain players and stuff like that.
19:09There's a lot of different ways to attack an auction and stuff.
19:13I'd say my 100 foot view about all of this.
19:16I would punt quarterback. I would again, go with the late round options because right now, even in our salary, um, calculator right now, you're looking at Malik.
19:24Willis is at $0. Bo Nix is at five.
19:27Jared golf is at three. He's another top 12 option.
19:30Tyler shuck. All these different guys are cheap punt quarterback.
19:33Don't pay unless you're like, you're in an eight or 10 team format.
19:37Do not pay up for the quarterback. Like garner two guys that are super freaking cheap.
19:42And a lot of times it goes down to like, are you going to try to build a stars and scrubs type
19:48of lineup and a team where you're paying up for certain guys that you can be the fulcrum of your team?
19:54For me, I'm going to do that, but I want to do it in a price conscious kind of way.
20:00Like I'm always shooting for upside. So like, I look at all these kinds of like values and I'm like, okay, I
20:07just stare at the sheet and I say, okay, look who is mispriced?
20:11Who do I feel? I don't, when I, I quickly look at this can outkick their price.
20:16Um, so just to give a few names here, like if you're looking to mine values or you want to build a
20:22real well-rounded team while paying up for guys, I think the secret sauce is again, when you go back to in state
20:29content is like, who could be the upside guys that swing leagues for me?
20:33And I'm, if I'm getting them while also paying up for certain guys, then that's how you win the league, you know?
20:40And that's how you were able to extract extra value out of guys and also add some of these elite stars to your roster.
20:47So some guys just going down the list here, like Basial Tootin at RB 23, I think is a value David Montgomery,
20:53even, uh, RB 25 at $15 on our sheet.
20:56The two biggest RV values that I could say like for upside and volume right now are David Montgomery and Tony Pollard for me and Jonathan Brooks.
21:04I'll bring up here. Okay. Um, as well as going to the wide receiver position, man.
21:09Jalen Waddle is a screaming value at $15 at wide receiver 27.
21:12Christian Watson wide receiver 29 at $15 as well.
21:15Going further down the map, Parker Washington wide receiver 35 at $7.
21:19Quentin Johnston, who I think is going to be the real wide receiver one for the chargers this year, wide receiver 36 at $7.
21:26Romeo Dobbs is another guy. Ricky Pierce solid $4.
21:28I can continue on and on tight end again.
21:31If you're not getting, I don't want to pay up for the Brock Bowers and the Trey McBride at the very, very top of the heap.
21:39Yeah. So for me in an auction strategy, I'm going to go with Colston Loveland if he is, but if he starts
21:45getting super pricey and people are pushing him up into the range of a Trey McBride or a Brock Bowers that I'm
21:52out on Loveland and I'll either garner Tyler Warren or I'm going to kick the, the, the can down the road further
21:59and I'll take a George Kittle if he falls or I'm really just going to punt it all the way down the road.
22:05I'm going to go with Isaiah likely Dallas Goddard, Greg Dulcich for possibly nothing in your draft.
22:10Um, so yeah. And, and this is also saying like you're playing in a league in an auction that doesn't have defensive kickers.
22:17If they do have defensive kickers, you don't pay any freaking money for a defensive kicker.
22:22I don't give a crap. Not doing it. Okay.
22:25Great information. That's kind of like the, the auction breakdown, uh, auctioneer style.
22:29We need to, yeah, we should, we should rip like a, an auction mock draft might be tough, but something, something fun
22:35like that, you know, maybe a little auction content we can get on the schedule here for August.
22:40We'll, we'll talk to the people who make those decisions.
22:43Um, another quarterback question here from a C not saying a 12 team league.
22:48They tend to draft quarterback really early to the point where they're drafting backup quarterbacks around six.
22:53Should I also draft early or accept lower tier quarterbacks while stocking up at another position?
22:57If this is a one quarterback league, I'm just fading the quarterback position.
23:01Let everyone else burn. Let other people sit there and step on the rake, dude.
23:06You're going to, you're going to, even if you don't have a great quarterback going into week one, like if you're throwing
23:12out someone that you're not super proud of that.
23:15Yes. D notice this one QB. Yeah. Yeah. I'm guessing it is.
23:19I'm guessing it is too, but like someone's going to have a surplus of quarterbacks at some point and you're going to
23:25be able to charge them an arm and a leg because you have running backs and receivers that they don't have.
23:31So a hundred percent. Or you just hit only around quarterback and you go on a more running back receiver and tight end valuing.
23:39You just crushed the rest of the league. That's idiotic and went heavy quarterback.
23:43So, you know, it gets one quarterback. So yes.
23:45Wait, C note. A couple of things from the chat here.
23:49First, the Jersey pool 50 50. So nobody was any help today.
23:52Oh, so that's pro E by Heidenreich. I get to put my thumb on the scale.
23:57I guess so. I guess. Yeah. You are the man of the people.
24:01If I don't see you wearing an Eli Heidenreich jersey in Canton, I will call you on your BS, Seth.
24:07Just letting you know. I told you that the Heidenreich one was out of stock.
24:11I could get the other one here, I think before the expo, but I don't, I don't think the Heidenreich one was going to get it.
24:19Ugly jerseys to Canton. That's a weird choice, dude.
24:22That's a really weird choice. I can still go in the bag.
24:25I got quite, I got a, quite a few, uh, weird ones.
24:29I got a Friar. Do you wear a Jersey to the golf scramble every year?
24:33Is that how you work it? No, I can't do that.
24:37You cut the sleeves off of one of the jerseys and you roll in there, you know, like program style.
24:43I never thought about that. You look like a Latimer.
24:46I kind of like that idea. I like that.
24:48Have you ever seen the program, by the way?
24:51I'm guessing. I have seen it. Yeah. I actually have it on DVD, but I, it's been years and years though, since
24:57I've seen it to be honest with you. It's so good, dude.
25:01For everybody out there, go watch the program. It's wild.
25:04Yeah. It was any given Sunday before any given Sunday came out.
25:08Okay. Okay. Um, the great, the great man three and Crandig new followers to the channel.
25:12We appreciate that very, very much. And, uh, also Lynn single, a new follower to the program as well.
25:18So thank you for that. And, uh, before we move on, I was talking about it earlier.
25:23I want to tell you guys about draft Intel.
25:26This is by far one of the coolest, most integrated tools we have here at fancy pros.
25:31If you have players you want and you need to know what your league thinks of them, right?
25:36Will they fall? Will they be drafted early with draft Intel?
25:39You can see your league mates past draft tendencies spots on who reaches for what positions.
25:44You can know, uh, whether you need to wait or whether you need to move early on certain players.
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26:05I know who's going to overdraft rookies. You know, one of the good things I learned last year, Derek, about my tendencies
26:12is that I tend to overdraft running backs in the mid rounds.
26:15And I pulled off of players like Tony Pollard and Travion Henderson.
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26:51So it's kind of like when you're playing the game of, can this guy get back to me in the next round?
26:58Oh, I don't know. Can I push it? All right.
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27:45Prezi was like an alternative to PowerPoint maybe 10 or 15 years ago.
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29:53Maybe the question of the day here from Jay Moxay.
29:56Is BTJ going to be back or is he washed already at the young age of his third season in the NFL?
30:03I think he's maybe only 24 years old still, Derek.
30:06So is BTJ washed or what's your opinion on him going into year number three?
30:10He's not washed. I think the better way to frame this, is he going to get back to a high volume role?
30:17Because of the constitution of the wide receiver room this year?
30:20No. No. I don't think he's going to get back to being their clear wide receiver one.
30:25My bet on that is Parker Washington. And the way that I'll look at it is, Brian Thomas Jr., like, Trevor Lawrence
30:31was crushing last year down the back half of the season.
30:35With Myers and BTJ and Parker Washington being his guys in three wide receiver sets.
30:39And look at the roles that every one of them played.
30:42Parker Washington was the clear wide receiver one. He was the go-to.
30:46He got basically all of their high leverage usage.
30:49You're like at the final four games, including the playoffs.
30:52Dude had six red zone targets and 13 deep targets.
30:55So it's not just like there was this underneath manufactured stuff.
30:58He was basically their Amon Ross St. Brown. And so I think that that rolls back into this year because, like, why would they change that?
31:06Why would they go away from it? And the other part about it is you just look at the skill sets of these guys.
31:13Brian Thomas Jr. has the speed. And he has the size to stretch the field.
31:17And he was the high A dot guy last year.
31:20So I think he's going to be right back in that low volume, high A dot role.
31:25Now, in saying all of that, is Brian Thomas Jr.
31:28Somebody that I think can have spike weeks and be very productive?
31:32And when we flip over the cards at the end of the season, be a guy that has 1,000 yards and seven or eight touchdowns?
31:39Sure. But we talk about, like, redraft and managed leagues versus best ball and stuff.
31:44And a lot of this stuff kind of gets wild and hairy in between where it's like, you know, I think a
31:50lot of the lines get blurred in the way that people talk about players.
31:55Parker Washington, I think, is fantastic in both formats because I think he's going to give you the high volume guy and give you spike weeks.
32:02Brian Thomas Jr. is only somebody that I really just want to draft in best ball formats because I think the spike weeks will be there.
32:10But the question is, when are they going to happen?
32:13And that's more of a wide receiver three or flex profile of, like, you're playing the matchups.
32:18And if he goes off of the 120 in a tutty in a week, like, fine, like, we hit Yahtzee.
32:24But if he's in that low volume, high day, a dot roll, it's much like a Jameson Williams or other players that
32:31could bring up for days and days and days.
32:33Or a Kayshawn Booty where you're like, okay, but if I don't play him, he's getting two for 20 and it's nothing.
32:40So that's kind of like, I will draft a lot of BTJ this year with T-law teams and best ball.
32:46But in a managed formats, I'm going to go other directions.
32:49Okay. CoNeedle, new follower to the channel as well.
32:52Thank you so much for that. We really appreciate your support there.
32:55And C-note. How do you say that? How do you say that?
32:59It starts off, it literally says C-note-ATL. Okay. It has been months since we've been on a show.
33:04The screen names, man. How are you still this bad at this?
33:08To be honest, I've been got before in the past with some weird names.
33:12Oh, preparation? Yes, I was afraid I was going to get got on that and I didn't know what it meant.
33:18So I just kind of... You're like, wait, wait, is there a secret member joke in this?
33:23Yes. What am I missing? Uh-oh. You don't want to step on the rake.
33:27I appreciate that. The tough part about this, Derek, is I'm the young one on the staff, so I should be more
33:34in tune with these jokes that people make with their handle names.
33:38When I get to your age, I don't even know.
33:41I don't even... These screen names are good, and I won't be able to see them either.
33:46When you get to my age, is that going to be in a few years in a very close time frame, Seth, or are we talking about decades?
33:54Be very careful with your words. I'm going to say we're a dozen years apart, so I'm going to say decade plus.
34:00I think that sounds about right. Yeah, that sounds about right.
34:04I'm not going to ask your age on live camera here, but I'm going to take a shot in the dark.
34:10So, yeah. Yeah. Hopefully, you have a good beard by your age.
34:14The grays give me away. The grays give me away of being past 40, if this doesn't either.
34:19You know? When I go into places now, and they go to card me, we literally went to a concert with the
34:25family last week, and the lady had a card me, and she was like, you know, for the bracelet and stuff.
34:32And I was like, here. Got you. It's right here.
34:35She goes, no, sir. I need to actually see your license.
34:38And I was like, okay, well, it's not going to tell you that I'm lower than 21.
34:43So, what are we talking about here? Yeah. The one thing I love about being in a small town is once you
34:50go somewhere once, they remember your face. So, I don't get carded much anymore, despite my young appearances.
34:55The locker breweries, they're just like, Seth, what's up, man?
34:58Hi, IPA? Yeah. We have a brewery. I don't go to the brewery.
35:02That beer's too expensive. Too many calories. I'm not.
35:04I'm not. Now, will you give me a drink your bush apples from the comfort of your couch, huh?
35:10Exactly. Yeah. I'm a dive bar type of guy.
35:13You know that, Derek. TCB, Seth looks 16. Chad is always sad.
35:16I haven't shaved in like a week, too. So, that sounds disrespectful.
35:20Wow. That's all you got in a week? Yeah.
35:23It's coming. I love you, but. You know, it's funny, too, because like I could be Andrew Erickson, who's just enjoying his
35:29vacation, just slugging IPAs on his front porch, playing Pokemon this morning, posted on Twitter.
35:34Yeah, yeah. Playing on his Game Boy, just sipping IPAs.
35:37What a life, man. What a life, man. Hey, dude.
35:40You can't wake up early, get the grass mowed, and then just tip back a little Pokemon Emerald.
35:45And, you know, for me, it'd be a bush light, but the IPA works, too.
35:49I can't go outside today, Derek. I was actually outside earlier.
35:53My throat started hurting because we have like the wildfires from Canada kind of coming down on us.
35:58Oh, geez, dude. Yeah. So stay safe out there, folks.
36:01Stay safe. Back to the big dance, though. Great question.
36:04One of my favorite types of formats as well is keeper leagues.
36:08I love answering these questions for you guys. Keep two here for the big dance.
36:12Ten team head-to-head standard. AJ Brown in the fourth.
36:15Waddle in the fifth. Pits in round 12. Dart in round 16.
36:18For me, it's simple, Derek. It's AJ Brown in round four because he's going, you know, late round one, early round two sometimes now.
36:25And Jackson darts the other one because he's going seven, eight, nine, sometimes rounds higher than this.
36:30So round 16 for Jay Dart and AJ Brown at round four.
36:34Do you see it different? No, I don't see it different because the simple fact of, and I'll just keep it short and sweet.
36:41You're playing standard. You're touchdown hunting. Who has the highest touchdown ceiling out of all these guys in the Patriots offense?
36:47It's AJ Brown, dude. He could score 14 touchdowns this year, and that's no shade of Waddle.
36:53But no, it's AJ Brown easy. Here's a really fun one from Thotamus, too, saying, what do we think about KOC's Vikings
36:59squads on an even year division winner? I didn't realize this might be the first time.
37:04Are the Vikings good on even years only? Because there's something like this in NASCAR where in odd years, there's a driver named Joey Logano.
37:11Is that a thing? Is that really a thing?
37:14I got to go look at now. Yeah, I don't know.
37:17That's the Thotamus. Add a little more detail here.
37:20Like, are they? Is this a trend you've noticed?
37:23Because like I said, over in NASCAR, Joey Logano, odd year Logano.
37:26No, you won out. Oh, my Lord. That's actually a...
37:29Well, it's been a thing the last few years.
37:32Okay, so 2022, they won 13 games. 2023, seven games.
37:352024, 14 games. 2025, they won nine games. Okay.
37:37Okay. Okay. I mean, I don't think that that really holds a lot of water, to be honest.
37:43Like, I thought... Like, we're kind of rolling down this.
37:46I think it's more noise than anything. Yeah. I think it's more of like a war of attrition with injuries and all
37:52that kind of stuff and what have you in quarterback play and things like that.
37:57But... 100%. I'm not in on the Vikings winning the division, like, at all.
38:01I think... I was a year ago. I thought last year they were set up pretty well.
38:06And like, the defense has gotten worse. I think the Lions are going to run away with it this year, dude.
38:12I think they're running away. I think the Bears come back because there was so much like...
38:17There was so much to the Bears season that felt very Commander-esque last year.
38:22Vibes. Every... Everything turned up right for them. And their defense is still quietly god-awful.
38:26Yeah. I think the Bears come back to earth.
38:29I think the Packers are probably the second team in that division.
38:32I think the Vikings... I'm just not in on Kyler, too.
38:36I'm really not. Like, I think that that could go possibly well.
38:39It also could be just an abject disaster. And they've got a lot of questions to answer on their D-line, their defense.
38:46I think it's in the cards. Maybe Harrison Smith comes back.
38:49But maybe not. That would be a good bump to them.
38:52Yeah. When it's all said and done, I just think the Lions are the most complete team, even with the defensive faults.
38:59It's like, they go out and they sign like a Jadavian Clowney or they sign another cornerback off the street that like,
39:05you know, can provide like more depth and stuff like that.
39:09Then, you know, the problem with the Lions has always been health.
39:12You know? So like, if they finally stay healthy and stuff, like Aiden Hutchinson stays healthy.
39:17He has a real running mate. I just think the Lions are set up to run away with the division.
39:23Yeah. I mean, their strength of schedule is super approachable, right?
39:26Like, the third best, I think. Yeah. I know it's top five or top six, but that's a fun division.
39:32If you want to play like the exact order market there, or just like, you can also pick like Lions to be
39:39first and just Packers to be second or either one of those two teams to win the division.
39:44There's a lot of fun I think you can have over there.
39:48I know the score has a lot of those markets.
39:51Hard Rock has some of those fun markets for those divisions too.
39:54So make sure you're checking those out. Where do you have Drake May in your rankings right now?
39:59Like, I do have him quarterback too, Derek, but like, but it's not like, I'm way below, I'm way below ECR though, in his overall ranking.
40:07Like I have him right now at player 40 overall, and I even have trouble taking him there.
40:13I guess I'm not way below ECR right now, player 35 overall.
40:16So QB three, where are you at here on Mr.
40:19May? I am QB two. So we are riding in the same party bus.
40:23Plus he's 35th in ECR. I've got Drake May at 29th.
40:27Like I've got him hugged up right next to Josh Allen.
40:30Okay. Okay. Wow. I think, I think Drake, I think Drake may cook a Pete with Josh Allen this year for QB one.
40:37I'll throw that in there. Is part of that the upgraded receiving options he has?
40:41Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's, he has the Russian component.
40:44He has the upgraded receiving. They added freaking AJ Brown and Romeo Dobbs to the collection of characters they already had.
40:50They added Eli Raritan who could give them more flexibility on offense.
40:54If the offensive line could be as good, if not better.
40:57If Elijah Vera Tucker can stay healthy and Will Campbell doesn't get hurt as well as they're playing a better schedule.
41:03So the big part about Drake may is last year, it was like, okay, in the first half, we're blowing out a team.
41:10The second half, it's almost like the college game where it's like, eh, we can take our foot off the gas.
41:16Bro, if they're pressed this year, pressed from start to finish to have to put up points and really press the gas pedal down the entirety of games.
41:25It's the same conversation we had about like the, the Patriots last year and the Eagles of yesteryear when they were crushing opponents too.
41:32It's, it's, it's, they're getting, they're piling up all of these yards and touchdowns and then they get the luxury of taking their foot off the gas.
41:40We might not get that to happen this year.
41:42And if the Patriots are forced to just push the pedal to the metal, Drake may could just absolutely crush.
41:48Great point. Love it. Um, here's another one from metal James, but for that, a real quick reminder that if you can't
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42:32And, uh, metal James with the question. What's up, James?
42:35Hope we're having a great day today, man. Saying four, four man, full PPR keeper pick four.
42:40Is he just saying he gets to keep four or are you saying four teams in this?
42:45I'm thinking, okay. I think he's saying four. No, no.
42:48He gets to keep four. Okay. Okay. Okay. Gotcha.
42:51Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. So it is an 18 league.
42:54We're reading James, right? And James, if I'm reading that wrong, throw it into the chat.
42:58Um, yeah. So keep four from James. Isn't an 18 league James.
43:02Also, James, let us know if this is one that, um, you keep for what round they were drafted in, or if
43:09you just keep them regardless and the draft capital doesn't matter.
43:12I'm guessing it's just, you keep them regardless or you could have thrown some round, round, uh, stuff in here.
43:18But Bucky, but Bucky, TN, O'Brien Hampton, Drake, London, a Mecca, a book, a Terry McLaurin, Chris Olave, Brian Thomas, McBride hit Burrow, Caleb, Trevor Lawrence.
43:25So, man, that's stacked to stack to pick here, Derek.
43:28And any early leans you have here for James?
43:31Yeah. I got a lot of early leans because this, this comes down to it.
43:36If it is an 18 league, I want league winning upside.
43:39Absolutely. League winning upside. Um, uh, Sal said, whoever's flipping through.
43:42Yeah. Stay on this for a second. Let me go through these names.
43:46Um, Bucky is an automatic. No Travis, HN automatic.
43:49No. Um, I don't want anything to do with those guys.
43:52Brian Thomas, Jr. Cut him. Let him go back.
43:55Kyle pits. Let him go back. Um, Burrow is incredibly like it's a high floor.
43:59I, he doesn't have the ceiling to be like QB one or QB three or like to get into that rarefied era because he's not going to run.
44:07Um, I would cut Burrow cut Caleb for me.
44:10And then, okay. So you have three quarterbacks. So the big thing about this James is too, is when, when we get
44:17into the keeper conversations, what is the, what is the, the pool of players look like for you?
44:22Like if this is a lot of people are keeping quarterbacks and you want to go absolute upside, I'm clean.
44:28I'm keeping Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow. Trevor Lawrence was like, dude, if he, if he picks right back up where he
44:35went left off last year, dude, he was the runaway.
44:38Like he, he was putting up insane numbers. I just feel like you're going to get a quarterback later, maybe depending on,
44:44but again, we don't know what the pool is.
44:47We don't know what that pool is. He's got three quarterbacks on his roster.
44:51What if everybody's keeping one or two quarterbacks? Yeah.
44:54So, you know, and, and we could have a long conversation about true ceiling of T law versus Burrow.
44:59The average, the conversation here is I would look at keeping one of those quarterbacks depending on what the quarterback pool looks like.
45:06The standouts for me in this list, you're keeping McBride because I'm guessing the other elite tight ends and you have to do that.
45:13Yeah. So McBride is a definite Amari and Hampton is also a definite because he has top three to five upside.
45:20So that's two. So just going down the list.
45:22Two. Um, I would look at a Mecca Buka over somebody like a Drake London only because of a Mecca dude.
45:28Emeka Buka was a wide receiver three in fantasy points per game.
45:32I like a Mecca. If, if a Mecca Buka gets the Drake London role in the Buccaneers offense with better quarterback play
45:39than freaking Drake London, what are we talking about here?
45:42Yeah. Like I'm going all upside of league winners here, dude.
45:45So this is Amarion. This is a Mecca. This is Trey McBride.
45:48And depending on what the quarterback pool looks like, it's one of those quarterbacks Burrow or T-Law.
45:53If the quarterback pool is just incredibly sound, I'm also going to throw a haymaker here.
45:58It's Chris Alave, dude. Chris Alave in weeks 12 through 18 last year.
46:02Just take a guess, Seth. Where do you think Chris Alave was last year when Tyler Shuck was dealing?
46:08Where do you think Chris Alave was in fantasy points per game last year in weeks 12 through 18?
46:13Give me a guess. I promise you, you're going to be too low.
46:17Wide receiver 13. Wide receiver three tied with Jamar Chase.
46:20Yeah, but that's pre Jordan Tyson, you know, that's pre Jordan Tyson.
46:24Okay. But if Tyler Shuck takes the step, if Jordan, if Chris Alave continues to produce at a similar clip, you're also
46:30expecting Jordan Tyson to be fully healthy in his rookie season and hit the ground running.
46:35That's fair. I don't think any of us can truly project that too.
46:39Yeah. No, I think health is actually the reason I just couldn't keep Alave over these other players.
46:44Just I know injuries can. Metal James. Yeah. That forward.
46:47That's where I'm at. Okay. Now, if you wanted to go London and James, this is where I'm at.
46:53If you wanted to go London over Alave, I'm not going to push back on you.
46:58I love Drake London. Again, this is me in an eight team format.
47:02Going all absolute upside and not caring about the damn floor because if the upside hits, that's how you hit.
47:08And the other thing about this, if you don't keep those guys, this is not to say you couldn't draft Drake London
47:14in the first round and get him back on your team or Chris Alave.
47:18So, you know, your league as well. If you're using draft Intel to James, then that can also help kind of siphon
47:25off like who you're looking at and all kinds of things like that.
47:29I do think that like, it's a clear, like three pack for me of a Marianne, Trey McBride and Emeka Ibuka.
47:35And we could dip, you know, we could talk about the fourth player and then quarterbacks and all that kind of stuff.
47:42So it's everyone's favorite segment of the show. Rapid fire.
47:44That's not really rapid fire, but we're going to try to do rapid fire.
47:49I'm going to try. I'm going to try. I know I talk too much.
47:53I just want to try. There we go. A little J Seth in the house as well for those longtime listeners who know what that's all about.
48:01Which rookie running back and wide receiver are you high on?
48:04And would you draft them in early round two to four in a one quarterback league?
48:09They're the highest rookie I'm drafting right now is like Jeremiah Love.
48:12And I'm not drafting him versus the other guys around him.
48:16You're not? Where do you have him? Where do you have him?
48:19In RB16. So I'm behind ECR and I'm behind ADP.
48:22RB16? Holy cow. You think the Cardinals are going to be a good offense?
48:26You think they're going to have good quarterback play?
48:29Not necessarily. I wouldn't say that. Okay. You think they have an elite offensive line?
48:34No. You think Tyler Algiers are going to vulture some touchdowns this year?
48:37Can't say that either. Okay. Then why are we worried about Jeremiah Love?
48:41I'm not high on any of the rookie running backs for redraft purposes, Pats.
48:46Okay. I'm just. Yeah. So I'm not that worried about them.
48:49The wide receivers that I'd be high on. I got Tate at 41.
48:53What do you have? What do you have Tate at?
48:56Oh, I've got Tate a lot higher than that.
48:58I've got Tate. 41 overall. Sorry. Oh. Yeah. Where are you at in wide receiver rankings then?
49:03I think I am at 21 and I could be tall.
49:07I could be. It's. And I am high and I think.
49:10No, I'm fine with that. Tate was the guy that I was going to mention here.
49:15He is the clear rookie wide receiver to draft and you could draft them aggressively.
49:19There is a run out where Carnell Tate is Malik neighbors of Tennessee this year, but there is a definitive run out where that can happen.
49:27Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The other guys, Makai Lemon and Jordan Tyson.
49:30I'm above ECR on both of those guys. You want to go further down the list as far as the rookie guys
49:36last round, the last round flyer or pick him up off of waivers.
49:40If like, you're like, I'll pick up like two more bench stashes and I won't draft a kicker in a defense.
49:47Keep an eye out for my guy, Kevin Coleman Jr.
49:50I think he's gonna be the wide receiver one in Miami this year.
49:53Wow. I like Antonio Williams and Elijah Surratt in that tier, but like, you know, those have kind of been my guys since day one.
50:01You and your Antonio Williams love. I was high on Antonio Williams before it was cool.
50:06Like before he got the draft. Yeah, I know you were.
50:09I know you were. We've got draft receipts out there.
50:12We got the NFL draft show receipts to prove, you know, to go back to the entire conversation.
50:17I was not in on him. Shout out to EJ Snyder was also not in on him, but Seth was holding.
50:23Seth was left holding the bag. So one of us will be red and one of us will be wrong.
50:29I was. And Elijah Surratt still 92 to one in the offensive rookie of the year market right now, folks at those prediction markets.
50:37So check it out. Thought to miss here. How to tackle this Jaguars wide receiver group.
50:41Seems like they would have never signed Myers if they knew how good Washington is.
50:46I mean, that's a potential. We did hear last year here, but like when Parker gets a four year, a hundred million
50:52dollar extension, are we going to be saying the same thing just because it hasn't happened yet when he gets Christian Watson money, which I think is coming.
51:01And Jacoby Myers was the type of player who they said when they brought him in, he changed their whole passing offense and he really did.
51:08So like, how do you rank these guys? I mean, obviously, like for me, I think this year, like I think I
51:15have Myers and Parker Washington, like the same tier, like, but like, I don't have a preference over them.
51:21I know you're probably leaning Parker. Then it's BTJ another little bit down, but still in kind of a similar tier.
51:27And then like, I still don't hate a flyer on Travis Hunter, honestly.
51:31I'm not driving. I will not draft Travis Hunter this year.
51:34Are you drafting the cake then rather than the icing that we've said in the past?
51:39Like, like, obviously you like Trevor Lawrence. You were kind of just advocating that maybe he does have QB one upside.
51:45So is that kind of your approach or how do you, how do you tackle this group for, for thought to miss?
51:52Um, in that offense, I've got four players I'm in on.
51:55I'm in on T law. I'm in on basial toot.
51:58And I'm also in on a Parker Washington as their clear wide receiver one.
52:02And, and again, I'll take BTJ in best ball formats or things like that.
52:06Or if he slips, uh, like, you know, past ADP, a large amount, I'm not drafting Jacoby Myers and I'm not drafting Brendan strange this year.
52:14I'm just not. Okay. Uh, staying with that team here, would you guys keep BTJ for a 10th round pick?
52:20Like I'm okay. It's not a huge value to me, but I'm not in love with it.
52:25It just kind of depends on what are your other options.
52:28Like he's fine there. But again, it's like, I don't, I don't see BTJ winning you a league.
52:34I just don't. Certainly. Um, and then football panda 12, Kyle pits.
52:37Uh, do you see any opportunity for him to be tight end one?
52:41The tight, the tight end one. No, no. Uh, go look at my notes, uh, football panda on fantasy pros.com right now.
52:48If you go to Kyle pits, like search them on the site, go to the player card and stuff.
52:53The splits between when Drake London was on and off the field, Kyle pits basically Russian.
52:58And he was an elite wide receiver one. I get, we're going back to like, okay, they should be the fulcrum of the passing offense.
53:05Like they should be the guys they lean on.
53:08I kind of look at that passing offenses. It's Drake London.
53:11It's B John Robinson. And then it's Kyle pits.
53:14Yeah. And the issue is like to, like I said this on a betting pro show recently, like two is a liability
53:21when he gets near the goal line because of how small and short he is.
53:25He can't see over the offensive line. Like B John Robinson, I think is going to have a ton of touchdowns this year, dude.
53:32We're high in touchdowns this year. And that 18, 18 to one right now, Derek to lead the NFL into Russian touchdowns.
53:39No Tyler Algeier, snipe him like Brian Robinson's there.
53:41But like, I think that's a really good number for, for B John.
53:45So yeah, good call. Very good call. Um, here's one from full send I'm drafting in person.
53:50Nice. You think the boys would be roasting me for using the live draft assistance?
53:55I had a hard to use in paper. And if they roast him, who cares?
53:59If they try to roast you, you roast them back at the end of the year when you win the whole freaking league.
54:06Yeah. I have live draft assistant while I'm doing the draft as well in person.
54:11And like more than anything, I get people trying to like creep on my screen.
54:15Right. So maybe like bring a little divider, like with a cardboard box or something, put your laptop in there.
54:21So they're not, I want them peeking, man. I want them.
54:24You're like the guy, you're like the kid in the shame box.
54:28Like the shame. You just drop the cardboard box and everybody's like, where's Seth?
54:32I mean, he's over there. Like usual. It's the goat box.
54:35It's the boat, goat, uh, box for goats. The goat boat.
54:39Is that what you're going with? The goat boat.
54:41There you go. A little goat boat action. Jeez.
54:44We need to have that. We need to get that on the, uh, on the, the draft assistant for sure.
54:50But no. Speaking of goats. Uh, yeah. Fancy goat 42 back in there saying thanks for the help.
54:55Yeah. There's a screen name that, that, that you're not going to get led astray by.
55:00Yeah. 42 Jack, Jackie Robinson, baby. Awesome. Was Peyton Hill is 42.
55:04Is he 41? Let me know. Let me know on that.
55:07I am curious. Your thoughts on Isaiah likely like, so ECR right now, I think it's higher on likely than I am,
55:13but same range tight end 13 right now. I think that's a fine price tag for a guy who he's someone I
55:20don't mind drafting early and then trying to flip Derek before Malik neighbors comes back.
55:24I'm 15 overall, but same tier as Chig, Gadsden and Mark Andrews.
55:28Uh, it's kind of where I'm at. Unlikely. What, what about you?
55:32My two low have him in the same tier as Gadsden based off of what?
55:36Like Isaiah likely is a, is tight end eight for me.
55:39I'm much more unlikely. Yes. Yeah. Tight end eight brew.
55:42Like, okay. So Malik neighbors, when do you think he's actually playing football?
55:46Seth. I say he starts on the top. I say he starts on the pop and then, then he's back after that.
55:53Okay. Then he's back. Do you see a fully healthy Malik neighbors at any point in 2026?
55:58Deepak said by like, we just did a show with him on the fancy pros YouTube channel.
56:03And he said, I'm professionally teasing that by the way.
56:06Yeah. Yeah. I figured, uh, like late October, maybe November is kind of when we're.
56:10So we're talking about maybe it's a 95%. So October or November, just to put context for everybody with that, that would be.
56:17Oh, nine. Nine pride. 10. I'm looking. I'm looking.
56:20I'm looking. I'm looking. The, the back end of October is week seven.
56:24We October 25th is week seven. If it's not till November, we're talking about week nine.
56:28So you're. Gonna. You're. Malik neighbors might not be a hundred percent until the back half of the season.
56:34Who the hell you think Jackson darts throwing the freaking ball to is the number one target then until Malik neighbors is healthier on the.
56:42Yeah. I agree. It's Isaiah likely, but I just don't trust him to put up.
56:46You don't think he's a top 12 tight end, but he's going to be the top two target on the team.
56:52Seth. Make, make it make sense. My man. Come on.
56:55Yeah. But there's other, there's other guys who could step up.
56:59Theo Johnson is not a dud there. That's. Oh yeah.
57:01They love Theo Johnson so much that the brand new coaching staff said that we need to go out and add Isaiah likely.
57:08John Harbaugh's boy in free agency. Yeah. I mean, Kim Scadaboo can catch more, more than people think too.
57:14So like, I don't know, like, it's not going to be great.
57:18I'm not caping up for Calvin Austin or anything like that, but.
57:21Oh, you shouldn't be. Yeah. Or Jerry Slate. My thing is if you draft likely, I think you hold him until Malik neighbors comes back.
57:29And then I think you flip him immediately because we have not seen sustained long-term production from this guy.
57:34Every year he starts off kind of hot. He wasn't the starter.
57:38He's going to be the clear starter this year.
57:40Yeah. I still think it's a, you know, a snap share by some extent.
57:45I think your Steelers love and your Ravens hate is coloring this.
57:48It's like the end of last year. They were pretty good.
57:51And he still wasn't doing a dang thing. He had a foot injury.
57:55He had a foot injury last year. And Mark Andrews couldn't breathe.
57:59And he, that's who he was sharing the field with, you know, come on.
58:03And Lamar Jackson couldn't throw a capable pass. We can keep going down.
58:07I agree. I agree. Yeah. I agree with that one.
58:10I agree with that one. There you go. There you go.
58:13Here's one from ghosty. That's all we were doing rapid fire, brother.
58:17Yeah, I know. That was my fault. Ten main league, half PPR.
58:20My league is very RB heavy. I have a third round pick debating between Chase Brown and CMC, assuming Gibbs and Bijon are gone.
58:28I want to, oh, not Chase Brown. I guess Chase, Jamar Chase.
58:31Oh, okay. I want to go chase, but I feel like I need to force a running back there.
58:37I'm not. You don't have to force anything. Yeah.
58:39Zig while other zag, man. Or zag while other zig.
58:42Yeah. Go chase. Everybody's all in an RB this year because of what happened last year.
58:47What if this is the year that a bunch of people get hurt again?
58:51And I'm not projecting it that way, but what if that happens?
58:55And this is the year where zero RB comes roaring back.
58:58Could be completely agreed. Jay Chow saying in the Colts offense, who do you gents think gets an uptick with Pierce being out?
59:05I know where you're going with this. So just go ahead and cook Seth.
59:09I know where you're going with this. We are Penn state baby.
59:13Maybe the Tyler animal, Tyler Warren, manimal, former quarterback, just all around goat.
59:17The precious locks that Derek or I cannot grow.
59:19It's home. But I also don't mind Josh Downs' current price either, to be honest with you.
59:24No, but Tyler Warren is going to absolutely crush, dude.
59:27He is going to be a massive ADP winner, I think.
59:31It comes down to my tight end strategy this year is Brock Bowers, Loveland, or Warren.
59:35And if I don't get any of those three guys, I'm just punting the position.
59:40I love all three of those guys. I think that's the bucket of what you could see as being difference makers last
59:46year, much like I was having a conversation last year that nobody wanted to hear about training pride.
59:52Sweet Caroline. Let's go state. Do you ever do that with any of your teams?
59:56No, I don't. Your teams have the, you know.
59:59No. Let's go. No. My Saints have hoot at, and I'm sorry all Bengals fans out there.
60:04Hoot day is not really a thing. You just stole it from the Saints.
60:08I was wondering. That always confused me. Okay. Glad to know you.
60:12It's a cheap. It's cheap. Sorry. The conversation for a different day.
60:15Properly, it's good to be back. I hope you all in summers and off seasons have been well.
60:21They absolutely have, my friend. Question. Lad McConkie is sticking out to me in the third, fourth round.
60:26Since he has McCarthy and Keenan Allen is gone, is it wrong to project that he might produce 70 to 80% of Tyreek Hill's 1.7K season?
60:34I'm very high on Lad this year. Cheers. Properly, I'm sorry, man.
60:37I am not in on Lad at his current call.
60:40I'm not, man. I just, I put a tweet out about this a few weeks ago, where if you look at and
60:47you stack up Lad's target earning ability over the last two years, target share, target per route run rate, first read rate,
60:53all of those things, then you just like juxtapose that with the top 12 wide receivers of last year.
60:59He's nowhere close into that market share, first read share, any of that kind of stuff.
61:04And so I just have a lot of questions about Lad from a target earning potential.
61:09And if I'm taking a guy as a top 20 wide receiver, I want him to have in some way, shape, form,
61:15or fashion wide receiver one upside, like to get into the top 12.
61:19And I just don't see it with Lad. Like, could he be a strong wide receiver two this year?
61:25It's possible. The other side of this coin is if you go back and I put this tweet out there and I
61:31discussed this on a show this morning with Welsh and Jake Seeley, which will be out later on YouTube today or tomorrow,
61:38is that if you look at all the metrics that really matter, when he was healthy last year, Quentin Johnston was the
61:44Chargers clear wide receiver one in every single freaking metric that I care about.
61:48So I'm not paying up for Lad. I'm going to be drafting Quentin Johnston everywhere and not Lad McConkie.
61:54And the other thing outside of this is two big things that nobody knows the answer and everybody tells you they know the answer to.
62:02They're honestly lying to you. Is which version of the McDaniel offense do we get this year?
62:07You got two or four years of Miami, two of which he was run heavy, two of which he was pass heavy.
62:13I don't know if we're going to get pass heavy McDaniel or we're going to get run heavy McDaniel and nobody, if
62:20anybody tells you they know that, like absolutely. Again, they're lying to you.
62:24And the other side of this is what happens with this offense?
62:27Like if McDaniel's numbers outside of previous years without Tyree kill in the field have not been great from an EPA standpoint and all that kind of stuff.
62:36Like, so like I just think for a lot of different reasons, it's like we don't know what we're going to truly get out of the Chargers offense.
62:44And everybody's projecting like this is the the sexy offense to buy into this year.
62:48You got to pay up for it and stuff.
62:51And we don't even know if Vlad McConkie, like truly Seth, if this is going to be a team and I'm just curious your thoughts on this.
62:59If this is going to be a team that uses multiple tight end personnel in 12 and 13 personnel with Rondé Gadsden,
63:06David Njoku and Shari Kohler all there. Could be.
63:08Yeah, is Vlad McConkie. Here's my thing. Is Vlad McConkie going to be in every two wide receiver set?
63:14Yes. As a 60% slot player. Is he going to be in two wide receiver sets?
63:19I just don't think we know that yet. No, we don't know.
63:22We know that. Do we definitively know that it is going to be lad and QJ or Trey and it's not going
63:29to be a rotation or maybe is a Trey Harrison, Quentin Johnston.
63:32Does anybody truly know the answer to that? I don't think so.
63:36Yeah, I would bet it would be lad, but I wouldn't put a ton of money on it.
63:41But I just think Trey Harris a little bit raw still, but we shall see last couple of things here.
63:47What draft strategy should be from the two spot again, state, state water.
63:51I think, you know, it's good to have some strategies going in, keep it in between like, but at the same time,
63:58go after some of Gibbs in round one. I mean, like, don't be afraid to draft more onesie positions a little bit earlier because of that.
64:05So in a 10 team or pay up for an elite quarterback, or at least the idea of the guy that's the falling value in that is G.
64:14One hurts. He has all the same risks as Lamar Jackson, new play caller.
64:18But I can tell you that G. One hurts has a better setup than even Lamar Jackson does both have elite running backs.
64:25G. One hurts has the better pass catchers hand down.
64:28It's not even close and the better offensive line.
64:30Derek rate this mock draft from Van Rod did my first mock yesterday.
64:34How did I do from the 11th spot? Felt like I didn't do terrible, but not good either.
64:40Jackson, dark, Kenneth Walker, O'Marion Hampton, Zay Flowers, Jamison Williams, Christian Watson, Ronda Gadsden, Cam Scadaboo, Baker Mayfield, Malik Washington, Kenneth Gainwell, Makai Lemon, Bebo Samuel, Hunter Henry.
64:48I just don't like Zay Flowers being your one personally.
64:51That's kind of my issue with it. Yeah. I like this team a lot.
64:55I think it's really, really good. I think the only part that when you got Kenneth Walker and O'Marion Hampton, I probably
65:02would have gone wide receiver at the Cam Scadaboo spot.
65:05But again, I'm just kind of shooting in the dark of like, I don't know what your options were there.
65:11Yeah. I'm also nodded on Jamison Williams this year.
65:13I'm guessing that's not because you, where you, how you going to, you know, stack this up.
65:18I'm guessing that's not Javante and obviously Jamison Williams.
65:21But if you felt better, like I don't feel great about Jamo.
65:25If you felt better about, better about Jamo, then you feel better about those wide receivers than I do.
65:30But overall, it's a solid team. I give it a B plus.
65:34Okay. Last thing here from Sean draft strategy for pick one 12 in a dynasty super flex startup.
65:39So what I'm going to tell you, Sean, is we just recorded yesterday, a fancy pros dynasty episode, myself, Fitz, Worm and Boggs.
65:46And we had Worm and Fitz both drafting on different strategies.
65:49One was doing more of a rebuilding type of approach.
65:52And then one of them was doing a win.
65:55Now that video should be up on the channel later today, I believe.
65:59So make sure you're checking that out and that can help answer those questions.
66:03I also kind of did a productive struggle build from the six pick.
66:07If you're interested in that Boggs would win now as he usually does from that one spot.
66:12So make sure you're checking that out at fancy pros dynasty YouTube channel, as well as all the great content we have over there.
66:19Derek Brown. Great to see you again, man. Great to be back in these Twitch streets with you as always, man.
66:25And that's going to do it for us alive right here on the fancy pros Twitch channel.
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