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0:55Good times there. Andrew and I just did an episode with Fitzy about the players and teams that have the most to prove in 2026.
1:02And I'm sure some of these players we're gonna talk about today have quite a bit to prove themselves.
1:07Jake Seeley, since you are still technically a guest here around these parts, I'm gonna start with one of the players that,
1:13so far in the early mock drafts, that you feel like, I like the value, I like the situation.
1:18This is a building block guy that I'm gonna make sure that I try to draft as many shares as I possibly can.
1:25As many shares, put it that close, but I'd say that a lot of shares because I'm okay like missing them sometimes,
1:31but I just think right now, the value is supreme for what we're getting as Dave Montgomery at running back.
1:37And mostly I'm looking at David Montgomery as my RB2, or maybe I went full zero RB this year, but more so
1:43as my RB2 because of where you can get them at the value that he is.
1:47And that's a fringe RB2 of high-end RB3. And honestly, if you look at it, and I went back and looked at
1:53it, if you take 60% of the production for the Texans, you just take 60% of it last year of all those jabronis that were back there.
2:01Actually, of the past two years of the Texans, you get RB24 most years.
2:05That's his floor because you figure you're looking at what's happened for the past two years with Joe Mixon being basically volume
2:11reliant, all that mess that was back there last year.
2:14And we all talk about how unproductive Woody Marks was on a per-touch basis, very inefficient.
2:18But all the biggest things partingly in that, as I could start trying to say that properly, is that there weren't a lot of rushing touchdowns.
2:26And we know that Dave Montgomery can get into the end zone.
2:29So at RB24, you're basically getting him as his floor.
2:32And I bring up 60% because I think 60% might be a floor too.
2:36Like how much are they going to give in the passing game to him?
2:40Probably going to share it with others, but we know he can catch.
2:43We saw it with the Lions. But the biggest thing is that that 60% could be more like 65% as he nears
2:49300 touches, which they've done before with Joe Mixon towards the end of his heydays.
2:54And what that mess was back last year, if you take, I think it was, I want to say Gerard Jordan and
3:00Woody Marks and combine them, they almost get 300 touches.
3:03But the point being, the real takeaway from this is you're basically getting him at his floor.
3:07There's only upside here if David Montgomery is even 10% more productive on a per-touch basis than what we've seen for the past two years of the Texans.
3:15So that's really what it's about. Five rushing touchdowns, you can't get them more combined for that Dave Montgomery in this backfield.
3:21And that's the real thing. I think he has the chance to be a top 15 running back and you're getting him at basically bottom price.
3:29Yeah, I agree with you, Jake. I look at that Texans backfield and I definitely think that this is a team that
3:35wants to run the football, control the tempo of the game, play defense, take some pressure off CJ Stroud this year.
3:41And David Montgomery is clearly the best guy. They went after him.
3:44David Montgomery has his limitations, but also I think he has his plus size as well.
3:48And I think that he is a solid running back, even though he lacks some of the more spectacular playmaking ability.
3:54I think solid is good. And I think when you're looking for building blocks in your fantasy roster, that's definitely a good way to be looking.
4:02Yeah, plus side or plus size? Not plus size.
4:04I mean, he's not at the lane. Did you just call him David Montgomery fat?
4:08Just call him fat. No shame on the show here.
4:11Why are you getting me in trouble with David Montgomery?
4:14That was a really good point you brought up, though, too, that I forgot to mention that.
4:19They said they're going to push more to a balanced offense this year and less pass heavy.
4:23Oh, yeah, as they should. And it's funny because this from the guy who is kind of taking shots at DK Metcalf,
4:30like I'm not trying to pick a fight with David Montgomery.
4:33Andrew, on the other hand, was trying to pick a fight with DK Metcalf on tailgate the other day.
4:38I just want to put that out there. Calling him overrated, calling him out just like that.
4:43I'm not crazy, Andrew. Andrew's a little crazy. Andrew, let's put that craziness to work here with number five on your list,
4:49because on the tailgate a couple weeks ago, our Dark Horse MVP show that we did, you went out there on a
4:55limb and you said Trevor Lawrence is a guy for you you think can win the MVP.
5:00And look at you putting your money where your mouth is, or at least your wagers where your mouth is on your fantasy rosters.
5:07Talk to me about Trevor Lawrence in 2026 and why you got to have him.
5:11So all the players that I'm going to talk about today are in my draft kit featured piece, Erickson's Must Have Players,
5:17except for Trevor Lawrence, because I neglected to feature him in that piece because I hadn't done my deep diving into the Jacksonville Jaguars quite yet.
5:24And I needed to add him. He was the one player that I've now gone back and added because I think that
5:30his ceiling talking about MVP consideration, I think he could finish as the fantasy QB one overall in 2026.
5:36Last year from week five onward, he outscored every other player in half PPR, every quarterback, every non-quarterback position, 23 points per game.
5:42He was top five overall on the entire year in points per game.
5:46Number one expected fantasy points per game. Entering his second season with Liam Cohen, Baker Mayfield had a 40 plus touchdown season with Liam Cohen back in 2024.
5:54He's a dual threat quarterback, adds value with his legs.
5:56And I know that a lot of his points per game comes from the rushing touchdowns.
6:01I don't think that's going away. I think a lot of those, those attempts were designed calls.
6:06He was third in the NFL last year in terms of red zone rushes.
6:10So I don't think that's going away. And there is a possibility that this Jaguars backfield, maybe nobody is good.
6:15Maybe Chris Rodriguez is not a good player. Maybe Bachel Tewton can't step up.
6:19So what do they do? Oh, respect to law, baby.
6:22Give him the ball. He's our franchise quarterback. Let him score these touchdowns again.
6:26So I think where he's going in drafts QB nine, I think he's like in that perfect late round quarterback territory for
6:32a player that showed last year that he could be a top five fantasy quarterback, if not the number one quarterback overall.
6:38So for me, Trevor Lawrence, given his upside price, second year in Cohen's system, I'm all in.
6:43For those of you who are audio only, you won't be able to see this, but Jake Seeley is wearing his buy
6:49the cake, not the icing shirt that I feel like I'm responsible for partially the creation of.
6:54Yeah. Yeah. I'm responsible for the candles. Will I see a single solitary dime of royalties off these shirts?
6:59No, of course not. I haven't sold anything. I made it for my house.
7:03Will Jake buy me one and bring it to flex when I see him in a couple of weeks and hand me a free shirt?
7:10No, probably not. It'd be nice. That's what friends would do.
7:13But Jake Seeley, regardless, Erickson is making a case to, you know, we've had so many debates about the backfield of the
7:19Jaguars, about the wide receiver of the Jaguars. The biggest cake guy, it seems out there with all the cake is Trevor
7:25Lawrence, because with so many unknowns, it does feel like he is the one piece of this offense that you should be
7:32able to count on for consistent fantasy points. Yeah.
7:34So if everybody could see the shirt, this is the one that's supposed to kind of look like Trevor Lawrence.
7:40Like, so this is supposed to be kind of Caleb Williams.
7:43It's like, yeah, there's very like, but I was trying not to get too close.
7:47I don't want the NFL to come for me for making some random t-shirt myself.
7:51You never know. So I agree with the Trevor Lawrence thing, just because we're also having this constant conversation about the Parker
7:57Washington, the Brian Thomas and Jacobi Myers and la, la, la, la, and all the type of, but the biggest part that
8:04I really like what Andrew said is that I brought this up years before.
8:07And I'm not saying like, I'm saying this and he's never said it.
8:11I'm just saying like, when you see quarterbacks get comfortable in the NFL, they run more if they are like run able,
8:17like Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, like they're not going to be running for 700 yards.
8:21Even Baker Mayfield two years ago, they run when they're comfortable because they're seeing the field so well.
8:27And they not only see when the opportunities are there to throw, they're also seeing one of their opportunities to use their legs.
8:33As we saw, we finally got Trevor Lawrence Clemson version last year, which involved the running.
8:37So I'm a lot with Trevor, Trevor Lawrence and with Andrew on this one, as I do think he can be a
8:44repeat QB one, if not at least top 10, possibly pushing that top five again.
8:48I wouldn't bet on that part of it, but for the odds of what you said, Andrew taking that shot in the
8:54bet on the odds that he's the MVP, I mean, I'm okay with that.
8:58All right. So let's move back to Jake here for number four on his list.
9:02Jake, I know you want to approach the Eagles wide receiver group.
9:05What is the approach? What pieces or piece do you prefer the most?
9:09Yeah, it's funny. I put this in here because I'm like, yeah, it's Makai Lemon time to talk about him again.
9:15No, actually at this time, I'm not talking about Makai Lemon, but here's the part.
9:19It's like, I want both of them. Like it's going to be a very funneled offense.
9:24I want Hertz and Lemon and Devontae Smith for their values.
9:27Although Devontae Smith's value is starting to creep up a little bit.
9:30I think at some point he's going to reach the breaking point because we're all behind them and we're all behind the
9:36fact that Devontae Smith, when there's been no A.J.
9:39Brown has been putting up top 10 numbers. He's actually finished as a wide receiver one twice.
9:44But again, those were with people missing games. So if you look at the points per game, he's still top 15, top 16 in most leagues.
9:51And that's the real appeal here is that Devontae Smith is going to be the one, even if I'm wrong about Makai Lemon.
9:57The one thing we can all be right about is Devontae Smith is going to be the one.
10:02Like if Makai Lemon flounders as a rookie and ends up being a collection, another one where that's the icing, it's Devontae Smith and all the rest.
10:10And maybe Dallas got it repeats his touchdown success from last year.
10:13But there's also excitement for this entire team and not just Devontae Smith just doing what he's done in the past.
10:19It's also the excitement we talked about before when I brought up Makai Lemon is this change under Mannion to have more
10:25under center play action, to have more movement along the line of scrimmage before.
10:29And we've all seen how pre-snap motion and play action, all these things, how they impact wide receivers the most specifically in fantasy.
10:36So there's a ceiling here for Devontae Smith to reach 14, 15, 16 fantasy points per game.
10:40So right now, not going as a wide receiver one, I will take him as well as taking where Makai Lemon is going.
10:47But I wanted to bring up Smith to point out the picture that like this entire past two months, it's not only Lemon I like.
10:54I actually do like Devontae Smith quite a bit too.
10:57I really like the top 10 wide receivers. I find wide receiver 11 to wide receiver 37?
11:01Somewhere around like 17. No, more like in that almost wide receiver 20 range problematic.
11:06And we use the word problematic not just because Rushdie Rice is in that group, but also because there is that question
11:12mark in my mind about Devontae Smith. There's a question mark to me about Malik Neighbors, Garrett Wilson.
11:17There's a lot of guys in that group. In that cluster, to me, it's like the Zay Flowers I like.
11:22I like Ladd McConkie and that, you know, that tier of guys.
11:26And then of course you get to Egbuka and Terry McClure.
11:29And we will. And we'll save those guys for later.
11:32But Andrew, I know you have really been steadfast about Devontae Smith.
11:35So this must be music to your eyes to hear Jake echo some of the sentiments that you've been speaking about here for the last month.
11:42Yeah. I mean, the proof is in the pudding with Devontae Smith when he's been asked to be the number one wide receiver.
11:49I know that sometimes this is not always the best bet to make when you're seeing a player go from number two to number one.
11:56We talked about it on the tailgate, right? Alec Pierce.
11:58If he got signed by another team, it wasn't on the Colts.
12:02It would be red flags galore. It's like you cannot invest in this player.
12:06We've seen this story before when a guy gets he's the number two is really productive.
12:10And then as asked to be now, the number one defenses are now game planning to stop you.
12:15Well, Devontae Smith has had those opportunities and he's delivered every single time.
12:19So I like Devontae Smith. I like Makai Lemon, especially just based on the draft capital, based on his talent, where he goes in drafts.
12:26He is a player that I think he's going to return on the investment that you make on him.
12:31Maybe it's not in week one because he is a rookie.
12:34Maybe take some time for this new offense to gel with the Eagles, Jalen Hurts, Sean Mannion.
12:39But I think that Makai Lemon, if anything, I think that he could compete with Dallas Goddard for that number two target.
12:45And the thing with Goddard too, as well, if he falls to the wayside a little bit, I know that he's kind
12:51of been Jalen Hurts' check down option. But last year, his red zone usage was like out of control, like a total
12:58outlier based on the rest of his career. And maybe that had to do with the specific offensive coordinator, Kevin Petula, who's
13:04now in Miami, which means, yes, Greg Dulcich is going to see a ton of red zone opportunities this year.
13:09Had to mention Greg Dulcich. But to the points, I agree with both Eagles receivers being Smith, not as much as a
13:15value anymore because he has gone up in price, but someone that can deliver as a fantasy wide receiver, wanted Makai Lemon,
13:22still a screaming value as a first round rookie wide receiver.
13:25Since you brought up the name, hold on. I just want to point out that Andrew was halfway through his list and then left.
13:31I don't know what he went and did because I could just see the Google doc we share.
13:36And two and three were empty. So I put Dulcich in both of them.
13:40And I'm actually disappointed you didn't leave Dulcich for one of those two.
13:44Well, we have a game here on the channel where every time he mentions Greg Dulcich, the fan base has to take a shot as a drinking game.
13:52So people were just getting hammered. I was going to say, how are you not passed out?
13:57It was terrible. It was terrible. People couldn't drive their cars.
14:00No heavy machinery around the farm. Just wait till week one, baby.
14:03Yeah. By the way, speaking of the Dolphins, Kevin Petula, passing game coordinator down there right now.
14:08It is the best thing you can do in life, kids.
14:11There's just a couple of things. You want to be involved in the NFL, two things I'm going to tell you.
14:17Number one, be a kicker. You can be a kicker.
14:20Best life ever. You'll see the whole country. You'll travel the world with all the international games.
14:24You'll play for 15 years, even if you're not very good.
14:27And you know, you still get all the benefits, right?
14:30You play a couple of years in the NFL.
14:33You get all the pension plan stuff. The other job is offensive coordinator.
14:36Because if you just do it once, you'll keep getting jobs all over the place.
14:41Matt Nagy is continuously hired all over the place.
14:43Kevin Petula will get hired again. It's unbelievable. Just the best.
14:46So kids, forget trying to go tackle people and put yourself at risk.
14:50Just go be an OCR kicker. You'll work forever in the NFL.
14:53All right. Let's get to Andrew's list here. Number four on yours.
14:57I'll talk about the New York football giants. And once again, Isaiah Likely.
15:00So in a world of an incredible group of top 10 tight ends this year, Andrew Erickson, D-Bro, they all continue to
15:06push and push and push for Isaiah Likely. I'm not doing it this year because I like the big time tight ends.
15:12You'll see me fighting out for Colson Loveland because I do believe he's a league winner.
15:17But talk to me about why you think Isaiah Likely could be that as well.
15:21Because he's shown an elite ceiling that can match top five fantasy production at a fraction of the cost.
15:26So every single year, late round tight ends hit.
15:29There's always some guy. Last year, Harold Fannin was that guy.
15:32A top five, top six producing tight end. So I'm just following the trends here because I can't guarantee that I get
15:38a Brock Bowers or that I get a Colson Loveland, depending on sometimes where you end up picking.
15:43And Brock Bowers was another player I thought really long and hard about of including somewhere on this list.
15:49Ultimately, I decided to go in the late round tight end conversation because I think maybe that features a little bit more
15:55of my perfect draft strategy, but more to come with that.
15:58I think for me, it's he's been a top five tight end in terms of points per game when Mark Andrews has missed time.
16:05And last year, we just didn't get a chance to see it because Mark Andrews was the one that stayed healthy for the entire season.
16:12And Isaiah Likely got injured before the start of the year.
16:15And every time he scored a touchdown, he found a way to cough up the ball before crossing the goal line.
16:21So for me, it's John Harbaugh knows Isaiah Likely spent his entire career with him with the Baltimore Ravens.
16:26And I don't think it's by accident that he immediately went to the Giants and decided, yes, Isaiah Likely, you are coming
16:32over from Baltimore to join me and boost this New York receiving room that lacks a lot of established talent behind Malik Neighbors.
16:38And Malik Neighbors is coming off the torn ACL.
16:41We don't know when he's going to be ready.
16:43We don't know how effective he's going to be.
16:46What I do know is Isaiah Likely, he's probably going to lead the team in targets for the first month of the season.
16:52And that to me seems like, hey, tight end one.
16:55Because anytime again, going back to opportunities when guys have delivered, when they've had opportunities, Likely has delivered in these spots when Mark Andrews has missed time.
17:03So for me, I think he's the perfect late round tight end if you end up going away from the Brock Bowers,
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18:17Welcome to Alaska Airlines. Jake, is Isaiah Likely the best late tight end, or do you prefer someone else over him?
18:23Of the late tight ends, I very much agree.
18:26And we did a show right before we left for that long vacation I was on, where everybody was probably celebrating and
18:32was on the show for a while. As I mentioned, Isaiah Likely, I forget what we were talking about.
18:37But I am on Isaiah Likely, although I'm with you.
18:40I'm in both. Like, I want to try and get one of the top guys.
18:44I actually do have a lot of shares of Harold Fannin so far, because I do think he leads the team in targets.
18:51That was the show we were talking about. We were talking about, it was with Fitz, and we said teams that could
18:57have their tight end lead the team in targets, and I brought up Isaiah Likely.
19:01So if I don't get one of those top four or five tight ends, Likely is one of my most attacked tight ends later in the draft.
19:09I'm very proud of us that we didn't make a Likely pun that entire segment.
19:13I just want to say that. Well, I did on the break.
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20:54All right. Next up here, number three on Jake Seeley's countdown list.
20:57And we're going to Minnesota for this one. So Jordan Addison is the name that you've put down here.
21:02Now, Jordan Addison, certainly an enigmatic personality in many ways.
21:05He has got a new quarterback here in Kyler Murray.
21:08So why is it wheels up for Jordan Addison this season?
21:11Because of that. Because everybody's super excited about Justin Jefferson and yet seem to be forgetting Jordan Addison.
21:16And let's talk about Jordan Addison's first two season, top 24 in total points, top 30 in fancy points per game, both seasons.
21:23And then last year happened. And we're all like, well, you know what?
21:26Justin Jefferson gets a pass. That quarterback situation could not have been worse.
21:30J.J. McCarthy is what some of us expected him to be.
21:33Carson Wentz was better for what anything could be on this team.
21:36And the biggest takeaway is if you actually look at Addison, a lot of his target based things weren't that different outside
21:43of catchability and plays downfield and the biggest thing, touchdown.
21:45So is Kyler Murray going to come in and start throwing 4,000 yards and 35 touchdowns?
21:50No. But if Kyler Murray is just Kyler Murray that we just saw two years ago, the disappointment for their, and I
21:56put that in quotes, the disappointment for Marvin Harrison's rookie season and everybody's upset about what happened.
22:01And the fact that he was the number two wide receiver about 850 and eight, I think it was this year, Jordan
22:07Addison's first two seasons were at average about 950 and nine.
22:10Like he had 10 and nine touchdowns, 900-ish yards, 800-ish yards.
22:13But that's all he needs to do to get back to the top 30.
22:17And yet, where is Jordan Addison going? Fringe wide receiver four at the bottom of the wide receiver four group.
22:23And I understand it. And maybe Kyler Murray is just complete toast.
22:26And maybe he just treats Jordan Addison like he did for that first Marvin Harrison game last year where he was doing jumping jacks.
22:33Throw him the ball, throw him the ball, throw him the ball.
22:36And he didn't even see him. But I'm looking at the names around him, like Wondell Robinson and Jacoby Myers, trying to
22:42figure out that situation that we already talked about.
22:45Pittman's fit with the Steelers. Quinton Johnson, if he continues what he finally had last year.
22:49But like all these other names is like, why not Jordan Addison?
22:53Why not Jordan Addison just to bounce back to the top 30, which isn't a huge stretch.
22:57And yet, like I said, he's going at 46, 47, 48 in most drafts.
23:01Andrew, Addison's a player that I prefer in leagues where touchdowns matter a little bit more.
23:06So in the half PPR realm, I think this is a very astute pick or non even, you know, if you're still, you know, playing in 1987.
23:13I was going to say 1997. And we got the sevens.
23:16We got the sevens. Wrong decade. But to me, that's where Addison's value is actually kind of sneaky good.
23:22Do you agree or disagree? I guess for me, it's when I'm looking in the wide receiver four territory, I guess I'm
23:28trying to shoot for more of a, okay, he can finish as a wide receiver three.
23:32Like I understand like why he's a value, but in terms of this.
23:36Twice. But first two years, he actually finished as a wide receiver two twice in the first two years.
23:41But was he ever a, this guy was a difference maker.
23:44Like he made, like people remember drafting Jordan's Addison because, oh man, this guy was so good.
23:49He was undeniable. Like that to me, I mean, I guess I just disagree.
23:53Like, I don't think that Addison, a lot of it was touchdown dependent early in his career.
23:58Juwan Jennings is a new addition to the offense.
24:00He was fifth in red zone targets last year.
24:03So when you're talking about touchdowns, Juwan Jennings was a touchdown machine in San Francisco 49ers.
24:07So what if he has a role? And Addison feels boom or bust.
24:11Last two years, his average depth of target has been north of 14 yards.
24:15So one week, yeah, he blows up. Okay. I didn't, I didn't start him.
24:19Okay. I got to start him this next week.
24:21Okay. He doesn't catch the long one. Okay. Now he's a bust in my lineup.
24:25So I guess that's why I'll agree and push back though.
24:29Cause you're getting them as a wide receiver for, even if you want to reach and get them as your wide receiver
24:35three, but your threes and fours being boom or bust are totally okay.
24:38That's why they're threes and fours and not twos because then you just leave them in your lineup and you get the good and get the best.
24:46I will. So let me ask a complete sidebar.
24:48Andrew, you'd made up one point that I love to tell everybody every single year, please do not try to play this.
24:55I'm going to pick the right weeks with your threes and fours, because that's how you get more games wrong than you get right.
25:01You just need to leave these guys in your lineup and take the good with the bad because that's who they are.
25:07So I won't disagree with you on that point.
25:10I will say this. I mean, the first two years of his career where he had vanilla quarterback play, and I mean
25:16that in every sense possible, uh, he did have 19 touchdowns in those two years and he was wide receiver 20 and 21.
25:23So the fact that you can even get them as a four in some formats, this is the kind of guy that
25:29I love in a flex because again, it like to Jake's point, it's going to be boom or bust, but man, some
25:35of those boom weeks are going to be great.
25:37And that's pretty much everybody's flex spots unless they're, you know, starting some kind of boring, low, you know, high floor, low ceiling running back.
25:44So to me, Addison more so in the half PPR than in the full PPR, but Jake, you make a lot of good points on here.
25:52I'll give you one more agreeing with Jake. Like I really do.
25:55Andrew, don't push me to agree with Jake. It really makes me unhappy.
25:59You're getting 2025 Alec Pierce as a wide receiver for cost.
26:02Yeah, I think that's a good equivalency. I think you're right there.
26:05Damn it. Stop it. Why do you keep pushing me into the arms of Jake Seeley?
26:10All right, let's get to a guy that Andrew, you and I are already embracing.
26:14See, let me just bring all the metaphors back together here.
26:17Omarion Hampton. I can't get enough of Omari and Hampton.
26:20We talked about it on the show yesterday with Tara.
26:23I am willing to go top 10 overall for Omari and Hampton.
26:26I do. I'm just going to put the flag out there, plant it.
26:30And I don't think I'm going to be wrong about it.
26:33And you and I see things exactly the same because you also think that Hampton is prime for a big year.
26:38And right now, he's still coming at a very good cost, in my opinion.
26:42Middle of the second round is where you can get the Chargers second year running back after a look up and down rookie year.
26:49But I think that he still flashed enough good where you can buy into a second year breakout.
26:54RB 16 points per game over nine games. Again, he missed half the season with injuries, still scored five touchdowns.
27:00And I don't need to sugarcoat all the injuries that the Chargers had to their quarterback, to their offensive line.
27:05It was a total mess. But now you're getting a healthy offensive line, hopefully.
27:09You're getting Mike McDaniel stepping in as the Chargers' new offensive coordinator.
27:13We've seen what he did in Miami and how he transformed that run game.
27:17Raheem Mostert famously scored over 20 touchdowns in this offense, despite not even being the bell cow for the Miami Dolphins spending time with A-chan.
27:24So I think that the ceiling is so high for this running back in this backfield with Mike McDaniel calling the shots.
27:30I actually pulled this stat. I was looking at the last time Justin Herbert actually had like a viable check down option.
27:36The last time he was like asked, OK, are you going to use running backs?
27:40And it was Austin Eckler. Eckler was a top two fantasy running back in 2021 and 2022 with Justin Herbert still as the quarterback.
27:47Mike McDaniels talked a lot. Yeah, we got to protect Herbert.
27:50How do we do that? Get the ball of his hands quick.
27:53How do you do that? You throw it to the running backs.
27:5720% target share all four years in Miami when Mike McDaniels was calling the shots.
28:01And Eckler had a 20% target share or the Chargers running backs had a combined 20% target share when he was the top two fantasy running back.
28:08So Hampton, again, shooting for upside must have players.
28:11That's how I do with Aaron Hampton. And when I just look at the opening schedule, Cardinals, Raiders, Bills.
28:16Yes, I get defenses change. But I mean, you can't ask for anything better than that when we're trying to project, OK,
28:22how is the first month going to go? Hampton's going to smash.
28:26For the first three weeks. Again, looking at some of the betting lines, who's the heaviest favorite in week one?
28:31It's the LA Chargers because they're facing the Arizona Cardinals and they're double digit favorites.
28:36So, again, no guarantees. A lot of things can change.
28:38But right now on paper, it's really hard to see Omer and Hampton not paying off a mid second round pick for the first month of the year.
28:46Andrew, I think he's a dark horse for AP Offensive Player of the Year, too.
28:50I'll throw that out there. He is the 15th player off the board in ADP.
28:55Jake, I think that's such a gimme. And if I'm at the turn, he's not making it out of the turn.
29:00That's my opinion on Hampton. What's yours? I'm very much in on Hampton.
29:04I think the risk with him is that because it seems like there are so many people in on Hampton.
29:10Like, I am at 18. So, actually, I'm a little bit behind you guys on this one, but not by much.
29:16And that's the issue. I think that this is going to turn into one of those players where everybody feels like they need to get him.
29:23And I'm just worried that we're going to reach the point where he's end of the, like, I'd say not end of the first round.
29:30I'd say, like, the ninth, tenth pick off the board.
29:33And then the concern is, like, he has to be everything.
29:36Like, what if this continues to be the Harbaugh, which wants to, like, there's nobody that's going to argue that Vidal is a better running back than Hampton.
29:44But we've seen this before with this offense. And I know that was Roman at the time.
29:48But we all sat there and was like, why is Gus Edwards taking away touches?
29:53Like, we've seen this before from this offense where, like, they want to use a running back alongside of him.
29:58And maybe it just keeps him at the 60% threshold and he doesn't get that elite tier.
30:03So, I'm with him where he is now. But if he reaches back into the first round, I think that's kind of pricing itself out.
30:10My counterargument to that is the offensive ecosystem of the Chargers is far more intriguing to me than some of the running backs going ahead of him.
30:17Ashton Gentry being one with the Raiders. I will agree with you.
30:21Um, and, uh, Devon HN with Miami, uh, in their current constitution.
30:24So, therefore, I'm investing in the player and the ecosystem of Hampton before I am the other two who are higher than him.
30:31So, I knew I would get back to disagreeing with Jake if I just was patient and waiting.
30:36Just barely. And I got there. Thank God. All right.
30:38Uh, let's go. Actually, you know what? I want to stay with you, Andrew.
30:42I'm going to do a little third round reversal here on Jake because this is my ideal turn.
30:47If I'm at 12 and you give me Omari and Hampton at the 12th overall pick and the 13th overall pick, I can take AJ Brown.
30:55This is how I'd love to start my team, Andrew.
30:57And I, I'm, you know, looking for those KDS starts, right?
31:01And if I could pick somewhere, I'm picking 12 because I think this is a very easy thing to pull off, especially early on.
31:07Yeah, it's going to be an issue in drafts that we're together in if we're both picking at the end.
31:13It's like, oh, we're all like. In which case, I want to pick 11 and I want Andrew to pick 12.
31:19Well, the good news is you don't have to worry about that at flex, Joe.
31:23Oh, why? Did we get our draft order? No.
31:25Or Andrew's not coming? Andrew's not coming. I'll just throw that out.
31:29I thought you were still considering coming. We'll talk about this off show.
31:32You tipped that at the end? Nobody wants to hear it.
31:36I just wanted to, I just want to take that little shot at Andrew when I could.
31:40That's fair. I committed and I had to, I had to pull the commitment.
31:44So I deserve to be thrown under the bus.
31:47I thought you were trying to like do the, the 24 hour turnaround.
31:50I thought you were going to come in hot and then leave on Saturday.
31:54It just wasn't going to work. It just wasn't going to work.
31:58So you're going to leave me alone with Derek Brown at my house for two straight days without you?
32:03Oh no. Make Fitz come. Yeah. I need a, yeah, yeah.
32:06Let's make Fitzy come. We're Bogman. Let's get somebody else there.
32:09I need a buffer. That's what people usually say about me.
32:12I love you, D bro. That's why I need Andrew too.
32:15Would I go to New York? Anyway, Andrew, let's talk about AJ Brown some more.
32:20I just don't know if I can see myself watching the Patriots every single week and not having AJ Brown on my fantasy team.
32:26I just, I just, I just can't envision enjoying my football season.
32:30If I'm going to subject myself to watching him just go absolutely nuclear in this offense with Drake may and me not
32:36have exposure to him in all of my fantasy leagues.
32:39I think that what AJ Brown showed last year, again, some of the numbers fall off.
32:43I think that's just totally based on the environment that they were in with Kevin Patool as the office coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles.
32:50Again, a down year for AJ Brown was wide receiver, 11 points per game at 27.5% target share, seven touchdowns and a
32:56thousand yards again for the sixth season. Talking about the red zone usage.
33:00He had three end zone targets last year and was still a top 12 fantasy wide receiver.
33:04I don't even know how that's possible. He was outside the top 30 in red zone targets again, Dallas got it.
33:10We talked about him earlier. He was the one that was backing up a lot of those red zone looks.
33:16And when the Eagles finally decided to commit to AJ Brown is, oh yeah, like this guy's really good.
33:21Like we should probably use him a little bit more weeks, 11 through 16, 32% target share 88 receiving yards per game,
33:272.8 yards per route run, nearly 20 points per game in full PPR.
33:31That is the number that we're shooting for when it's, Hey, can this guy be the number one wide receiver in football?
33:37Are you getting 20 points per game? Yeah. AJ Brown was very, very close to that 19.6 expected points per game.
33:43That pace would have been fantasy wide receiver three overall last season.
33:46I think that he just fits again. Drake may the downfield shots that he was getting with Matt Collins and Kayshawn booty last year.
33:53Oh, now we're going to get that with AJ Brown against man coverage, which he was fourth best.
33:58I don't think that he's cooked at all whatsoever.
34:01And I think that if Josh McDaniels really leans into him as this true number one alpha wide receiver, like he did
34:07with Brandon Marshall, like he did with Devontae Adams, with the Raiders.
34:10I mean, this guy could see north of 150 targets and just smash.
34:14So for me, AJ Brown is a guy that I want as much as humanly possible.
34:18I believe, Jake, that AJ Brown is still being undervalued and underranked.
34:22Andrew and I agree on this. People say that we're seeing the world through the red, white and blue Patriot glasses, but I disagree.
34:28This is pure analyst stuff here. I love what I saw at Drake May last year.
34:33And it's not because he plays for the Patriots, because he does all the right things at the position at such an
34:39early age that I think he can only get better and better the more he gets those reps at that NFL level
34:45and giving him a true alpha, which Stefan takes was not at the stage of his career.
34:50I think AJ Brown's got a couple of years left in the tank at this level of play.
34:55Where do you have AJ Brown in your rankings?
34:57Just curious. Alongside Marian Hampton as a mid second rounder.
35:00So if you and that mid second round, it's like if you want to say, hey, I'm going to take him a few spots early at the turn.
35:08That's fine, because the names he's alongside of Hampton, Walker, Bowers, Derek Henry.
35:12So loaded. So loaded. It's basically like there's a ton of great names there.
35:16And if you want your poison to be the wide receiver because you took running back first or you want to start
35:22wide receiver, wide receiver, I'm OK with it. Like, it's just basically he's separated more for me because I did a little
35:28bit of a tear break for the wide receivers.
35:30That's all. All right. Fair enough. Jake, we can go back to you for your next pick now that we've done the reversal.
35:37And it's somebody who annually kind of gets overlooked because every year is another year older and every year everyone says, well, he can't possibly do it again.
35:45And then he does it again. And everybody looks like a schmuck except me, because I always draft him.
35:50Basically, wherever I can get him in the one league that I didn't draft him last year was Flex and he'll beat
35:56me in the finals of Flex last year. Derek Henry.
35:59So actually, it was Derek Henry and Bijan. So at least I got pounded into oblivion that day.
36:04It wasn't close. But still, Derek Henry. We're in that same situation again in 2026.
36:08I know eventually it will slow down. Yeah. Father time is undefeated.
36:12But so far, he has the same record as Derek Henry.
36:15Discuss. And it really comes down to the value because the value keeps going down.
36:19Like if we were still talking the turn of the first, second round picks, I would say, yeah, OK, now the risk is starting to get there.
36:26But he's at the two, three turn and he's pushing.
36:29And you've seen some drafts, especially basketball. And I know we're not talking like basketball, blah, blah, blah.
36:34But I mean, we're seeing mid third round, late third round.
36:37And it's really just come down to the value.
36:40And shout out to Ryan Heath. He put this out a few weeks ago.
36:44And I retweeted it today so people could see it if they want to go because I had to pull it back up.
36:50But he was talking about what we all know.
36:53What we sit here and argue for running backs every single year is game script.
36:57We want game script, game script, game script, because wins we know influence.
37:01And it's not the biggest telltale, but it helps a lot when we're talking about the volume of touches, the opportunities and wins versus losses.
37:08And the example he gave, and I couldn't agree anymore, is everybody wants to take Jonathan Taylor in that eighth, ninth pick
37:14of the first round, which, by the way, their win total is seven and a half and ignore a round and a half to two rounds later.
37:21Derrick Henry sitting there with 11 and a half win total.
37:24So I even went into this and I looked the difference of points per game from wins to losses.
37:30Jonathan Taylor averaged 19 more fantasy points per game and wins 30 points per game in those wins than he did in losses.
37:3611. Derrick Henry is one of the flattest alongside Saquon Barkley at a 2.9 gap.
37:40He was averaging 17.6 in wins. And you can do the math that he was still very close and very productive as a fringe RB1, even in losses.
37:48And again, we're still talking wins anyway, when he's putting up a ton of touchdowns and yards and everything like that.
37:54So it's not the fact that I like, I just want Derrick Henry.
37:58It's the fact that I'm willing to invest one more year.
38:01Maybe this is the year it falls off. We're all, you and I are left holding the bag, Joe, and we look like idiots.
38:08But the value is still there. And the value is there.
38:11Like as a second, third round pick, like late second, early third, and it misses, it's a lot more palatable than missing on Jonathan Taylor at the eighth.
38:18And Jonathan Taylor has a mid-season because the Colts struggle.
38:21Erickson, what's your stance on Derrick Henry this year?
38:24I think he's appropriately valued. I think that he's a good pick where he goes.
38:28So again, I'm not kind of going to the show and be like, oh, you can't draft Derrick Henry this year.
38:34I've done that battle before. I don't want to do it.
38:37So I think that he's a good pick where he goes.
38:40And I think that he's one of these running backs that not viewed as a first round, early second round pick, but
38:46is a reason why you can start wide receiver heavy if you want to, because you have Derrick Henry in your back
38:52pocket with a couple other running backs. I also get running backs are in vogue, right?
38:57Like running backs are back, baby. Like the two-eye shell, it's all we needed for the running backs to come back and just some good health.
39:04So yeah, I'll get no pushback at Derrick Henry.
39:07Quarterback play has been poop for the last couple of years for the most part.
39:11It's getting better, I think. So my other big curiosity also going into this year with Derrick Henry is that I look at the Ravens roster.
39:18Had they brought in more competition for him or better backup scenarios, I would be more concerned.
39:23Okay, maybe everybody's starting to look at Derrick Henry, even the Ravens, saying we should be figuring things out.
39:28They gave him an extension last year, so that dude's just built different at the end of the day.
39:33All right, Andrew Erickson, let's go back to you for your number one.
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40:46Andrew Erickson, give me your number one guy that Mr.
40:49Erickson is not leaving drafts without. Oh wait, it's also a raven.
40:52Zay Flowers This would be my flag plant player.
40:55I want to attach my name to Zay flowers for the 2026 fantasy football season, because I think that we still haven't
41:01seen the best of Zay flowers, a player that former first round pick drafted by the Ravens that has improved every single year of his career.
41:08All he's done is just get better and better and better.
41:11Last year, over 1200 receiving yards, 86 catches, six touchdowns, wide receiver, seven, 2025.
41:15He was wide receiver, three overalls last five games, four plus catches in 13 of his 17 games and can't get past how cheap he's going in drafts.
41:23When Lamar Jackson was healthy last year, he was a top 10 wide receiver in terms of receiving yards per game.
41:29So I think that if Lamar is just healthy, okay, you're going to get top 10 production from Zay flowers.
41:35And then the one thing that is missing from his profile is just the touchdowns, right?
41:39Will he ever see an expanded red zone role?
41:42I can't guarantee that we do have a new offensive coordinator.
41:45So it's always a possibility with Declan Doyle coming in and I expect him to run a faster paced offense than what
41:51we've seen from the Ravens over the last two years coming from the Chicago bears offense with Ben Johnson, very high in pace last season.
41:58Ravens red zone offense was bad last year, 27th and red zone scoring.
42:02So this is something that they need to address and change heading into this year.
42:06If they want to score more touchdowns, we know Lamar Jackson can throw a ton of touchdowns.
42:11He had a 6.5% touchdown passing rate. And I know that he had this big touchdown season two years ago and Zay
42:17flowers didn't benefit from it, but Zay flowers is better now than he was two years ago.
42:21So for me, where he's going in this mid wide receiver to range, I think that that's his absolute floor.
42:27Again, he was fourth in yards per route run behind Puka Nakua and JSN last year and Luther burden on a small sample size.
42:34Those guys are drafted inside the top five and every single draft Puka Nakua and JSN.
42:38And now I have another receiver that was just as efficient as those players going pick and rounds after.
42:44I think that he's on the Antonio Brown trajectory in the good way where this is where he could absolutely smash entering
42:50his fourth season under a new offensive play call.
42:52He still has an elite passing quarterback with Lamar Jackson.
42:55So for me, and the other thing too, is who's his, who's he competing for targets with?
43:00He was fifth in target share last year. So JSN 35% target share last year.
43:04I think Zay flowers has a chance to lead the NFL in target share this year.
43:09I got 28% last season for shot Bateman, two rookie wide receivers, the corpse of Mark Andrews.
43:13That guy's cooked. Sorry. Zay flowers for me all day, every day.
43:17Yeah. I know. Bogman's very big on Zay flowers.
43:19I am too. I think the, the appeal of the Ravens situation is I, I'm at peace with the value of the three big pieces in it.
43:27And I like the Zay flowers value. I still like the Derek Henry value as Jake pointed out and Lamar Jackson too.
43:33So, and you have those three guys, you control pretty much all the scoring except for the off days where Mark Andrews is healthy and catches two touchdowns.
43:41So I think those days are getting few and far between.
43:44So give me flowers. Give me Henry. Give me Lamar.
43:47Give me fuel. Give me fire. Give me that, which I desire.
43:50Jake Seeley. Give me your number one guy that you just can't live without in 2026.
43:54Yeah. Another wide receiver and another player from a team we've already talked once about.
43:59And it's funny that we had the opposite size of this one and that I'm taking the wide receiver from the team.
44:05He talked about the running back and he did the same for me, but it's Ladd McConkie.
44:10I think that we're all looking at Ladd McConkie.
44:12He feels, it's weird that he feels post-hype sleeper-ish.
44:15But I think that's because of the perception of what happened as rookie season is that there weren't that many people that were super high on him.
44:22And I'm not saying this as we're like, haha, look at me.
44:26I wasn't one of the highest. I was pretty high.
44:28I was higher than most, but I wasn't to be clear.
44:31Like I wasn't even expecting it to be that good of a rookie season.
44:35I thought it was going to be more year two and beyond.
44:39But what actually ended up happening was he had a really good rookie season and then big disappointment last year.
44:44Massive. And a lot of people are now off of him and they're just like, eh, whatever.
44:49But if you look at this team and if you look at the fact that we're all talking about Mike McDaniel and
44:55what he can do for Marion Hampton, it kind of goes similar to an argument I brought up earlier in this show
45:01about if we're going to argue for this team and what McDaniel can do for this offense, all the excitement for Herbert
45:08with a healthy offensive line and all the, by the way, Herbert's supposed to be this one right here for by the
45:14kick, not the icing, but I am going to make a point for at least one piece of the icing because I
45:20know the constant of the one on this team.
45:22The others are the question mark, whether Quentin Johnson can build off what happened last year, whether rookies are going to make
45:29an impact, whether it's going to be Gadsden seeing more from the tight end position, whatever it might be.
45:34What do we know? We know McConkie is the one.
45:37And if you look at back at McDaniel with the Dolphins and average out the number one, because sometimes it was Hill,
45:43sometimes it was Waddle because they were hurt at different times, but the on average, the number one target in his offense
45:49is somewhere between 30 and 31% of the target share.
45:52That's what we want from Andrew was just bringing this up.
45:55You tell me 30% from the lead option. Maybe it's only 28, but even 28 for Lad McConkie in this offense with
46:01a healthy Herbert, healthy offensive line McDaniel doing what he can do, which is really what the part that I like too
46:07is what McConkie fits in McDaniel style is getting those wide receivers open over the middle, that intermediate range so they can
46:13do more after the catch as well, including some shots downfield.
46:16But that's really where the heyday comes for his wide receiver style.
46:20And I think McConkie just fits McDaniel so perfectly.
46:22And the advantage of having him potentially get near 30% of the target share, McConkie will get that wide receiver one position
46:28that we thought he could possibly build off of his rookie season and get last year, this year.
46:33And guess what? He's going back into the top 20 wide receivers.
46:37So that's the big, if he put up a crystal lobby season this year would not shock me in the least.
46:43Who would you rather have everybody? I'm going to put the question to you because Lad McConkie and Zay Flower is going
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47:14Speaking of full service, great job here by Jake Seeley.
47:17Fresh off, I don't want to say vacation. He was gone for a couple of days.
47:22Was it vacation really? I mean, it was family vacation.
47:24So it was a lot of relaxing going to movies with the nieces and nephews.
47:29Yeah. See, vacation is me sitting on a hammock on an island and someone bringing me a cocktail.
47:34That's vacation. And I haven't had one of those in a long time.
47:37A lot of trips. When you need a vacation from the people you're around because the screaming and yelling, then that's not really a true vacation.
47:45No, no. And Andrew Erickson, who never takes vacation, but is going to take a vacation from Plex this year.
47:50And I'm going to yell at him right after the show about it.
47:54That's going to do it for us. But the story of the game goes on.
47:58For Jake and Andrew, I'm Joey P. We will see you next time, kids.
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49:16When Kohler, global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, asked me to be their ambassador for timeless, elegant, durable cast iron, I said, I'm in.
49:24Soon after, I was in their Kohler Wisconsin foundry, watching molten iron poured, enamel applied by hand, and the beautiful finished pieces ready to ship.
49:31Since 1883, Kohler cast iron has been crafted by incredible artisans, and seeing it firsthand gave me a whole new appreciation for their craftsmanship.
49:37Now, I'm proud to lend my stamp of approval to my favorite Kohler cast iron products for their durability, beauty, and enduring style.
49:44Shop my curated picks at Kohler.com. As the Kohler cast iron ambassador, I say, long live cast iron.
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