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0:09We're going to be talking through some of the adjustments, where these guys are different, couple different plays, try to help you
0:16guys make the best decisions you can for this week.
0:19And if you guys want to follow along with us, go to FantasyPros.com slash rankings.
0:23You can check out all the rankings as they change throughout the week.
0:27And they will, as more experts are going to be putting in their ranks here.
0:32But this is a really good, solid footing we've got for what wide receivers are going to be this week.
0:38Probably going to be a few changes in here.
0:40There's some quarterback changes that are going to have some effects.
0:44We've seen a few of those. So, gentlemen, are you ready to just dive straight into these wide receivers?
0:49Do we have to prep anything? I mean, here's the only negative.
0:53We don't know the status, as we're recording this, of Puka Nakua.
0:56We don't know the status of Zay Flowers. And those are both two super important wide receivers.
1:02Did you guys, actually I'll just ask you this now.
1:05Did you hedge bet both of those players? Or do you feel more confident about one or the other?
1:10Fitzy? Yeah, I don't have Puka in my rankings.
1:13I do have Zay Flowers in my rankings. Okay.
1:16Erickson, did you hedge bet? Because I think Puka actually comes in.
1:19He's kind of hedge bet. When I say that, it's like people are just like they don't want him high.
1:25They're putting him kind of low. They don't know what to do with him.
1:29Do you have a better vibe of who both or neither are going to play this week?
1:35Puka, I have in my rankings. Zay Flowers, I do not have in my rankings.
1:39Oh, so you guys are complete opposite. I mean, we'll all find out together.
1:43Grand old time. If healthy or if active, do they both players go back to where they were?
1:49Or do you have a hesitation based on snaps or anything like that?
1:53Erickson. I'm willing to eat the L if they come back and they're limited because I think the upside for them at
1:59100% is too great to leave on my bench.
2:02I'm willing to take the risk. Okay. So they're going to be close to back to where they would normally be.
2:08So that's that's the easy answer for anybody here.
2:11They just go back to where they were, which is a is a top 12, maybe top 10 Puka top, you know, two or three.
2:18Fitzy, same thing. If active, do they go right back to the rank that you had him or there's a little hesitation because I'll be honest with you.
2:27I like a slight hesitation on Puka specifically. If you were active, I know he's just such a monster, but I feel
2:33like that active could be less of a snap count and like you saw like Terrence Ferguson using some of those routes.
2:40I actually would put I don't think I would I would not start him, but I would have him from a rank perspective a little bit lower.
2:48What would you do with it? These teams have more at stake with these players than we do as fantasy managers.
2:54They are paying them millions of dollars after all.
2:57So generally, I feel like if a team's medical staff clears a player to go, they feel good about him and therefore
3:04I shouldn't worry about him that much. You know what?
3:07Great take great play. Okay, let's talk about the wide receivers and who you guys are gonna be playing this week.
3:13We are going to bring up the big board for the top 12 wide receivers and it starts with Jackson Smith-Njigba coming in at number one.
3:21Amon-Ra St. Brown Brown at two. Jamar Chase at three.
3:24Justin Jefferson is for Chris Olave jumping up. I know Fitzy was getting excited about Olave behind the scenes here coming in at five.
3:31CD Lamb at six. Then the bottom half Devonta Smith, Garrett Wilson, George Pickens, Christian Watson, Parker Washington, and then Drake London at 12.
3:38Slight little effect I suppose if you want to think of like Puka and Zay Flowers out of this maybe that pushed
3:45up London and Washington a tiny bit. But that's what the top 12 looks like.
3:49Most of these are actually really well rated matchups.
3:52The worst is Justin Jefferson, but it's Jefferson and Kyler Murray is back this week.
3:57Everything else is rated out relatively well here. All these guys are starting.
4:01The one guy I wanted to focus on and talk about is Parker Washington because Parker Washington is now kind of broke
4:07this plane of being a weekly top 12. And it's funny in the betting market we were talking about.
4:13I have two straight weeks bet his receptions over and I have smashed it in the first half each week.
4:19So it now looks like week three, like rankers, consensus, probably Vegas.
4:22Like everything is going to kind of have been caught back up with Parker Washington, but it could be a tough matchup this week.
4:30He's going up against New England. So despite the New England matchup, he is a top 12 wide receiver.
4:35You guys both have him high, but not as high as ECR right now.
4:40And Erickson, you actually are the low one. So let's talk about Parker Washington.
4:44You got him at 13. He's just, you know, borderline wide receiver one.
4:48You've obviously been a very, very big pro Parker Washington guys.
4:51A lot of us is, but let's talk about Parker Washington for this week.
4:55Yeah. So first off, Parker Washington has achieved goat status.
4:58It seems like just picking up where he left off last year on this absolute sun run.
5:03It reminds me so much of the Amon Ross St.
5:06Brown rookie season where he just is on fire.
5:09And then there's excuses where, well, he only did it because all the other guys were out of the lineup.
5:15And then two weeks into this season, it's like, oh yeah, no, he's just really freaking good.
5:20I know when I did my rest of season rankings, I had him at wide receiver eight, just looking at all the
5:27names ahead of him and looking at the names behind him.
5:30It was like, this seems like a really good spot for him.
5:34So like our boy Welsh over here, he has achieved the highest status you can.
5:38Welsh is crushing it in the fantasy pros experts platform in terms of where he has achieved Parker Washington status.
5:44Whereas me, when I look at my overall, I am in the Gino Smith tier of the fantasy pros expert profiles.
5:50Yeah. So, and what you're talking about is in the, uh, the cards that we have, I don't know if people know
5:57about this, but you now can have an entire profile built out for you based on your fantasy history.
6:03Fantasypros.com slash profile. Um, it, it's going to tell you just like all of the stats.
6:08That's the best thing about it. Like we love, like you get all the stats, but one person I mentioned this before,
6:14I may or may not have had a little hand in wanting to create the card aspect of it.
6:20So when you go and you go to fantasy, this is like the best part is the shareable piece and I'm proud of it.
6:27I built nothing of it. It was just, I was like, we should do this.
6:32And you go to fantasypros.com slash profile and it'll take in all your sync leagues and then you get your profile and
6:38then you get a card set up. So what Erickson's talking about is somehow I don't have the highest.
6:44I'm one step away, I think from the highest, but I think I have like the highest of all of us for
6:50some reason, but I also think I could play other sports.
6:54I don't know if it did put it in, but I got like a 94 of a hundred and it's kind of
7:00like when you play in Madden or whatever, and you get to see like where you're really good at.
7:06Are you good drafter? Are you good waivers? Your lineups, your record, your championships.
7:10So thank you for the love. I just so happen to have a very high status.
7:15My card looks very nice. And if you guys want to go collect your cards and your fantasy career, fantasypros.com slash profile, I highly suggest to do it.
7:24It is very fun. It's not fun when your profile doesn't look great, but it's maybe more motivation to pump that thing up.
7:30It's motivation like Parker Washington. He didn't get his contract.
7:33So he's ready to catch seven balls every single week.
7:36Yeah. I mean that 94 overall that you got $94 million coming down for Parker Washington in his next contract at least
7:43because they got to get this guy paid back to what he's done so far this season.
7:48I don't know where he is in terms of fantasy points per game.
7:52I imagine he's somewhere in the top five, but in terms of target share, he's trailing only Jackson Smith and Jigba and Amon Ross St.
8:00Brown 35% target share through two weeks. Trevor Lawrence is looking for him first, second, third, fourth read.
8:05And then if he's, if he's not open, then he'll check it up to Brian Thomas Jr.
8:10Probably incomplete. Cause that's what we saw last week against the Denver Broncos.
8:14So, so, but in this particular spot here, only slightly lower on consensus, because I do think that if I'm the Patriots,
8:21I'm sticking Christian Gonzalez on him on every single play, because why did I pay Christian Gonzalez?
8:26If he's not going to try to stop the number one wide receiver.
8:30And it's so clearly obvious who the passing game goes through in Jacksonville.
8:34It is so clearly Parker Washington. So again, that's only why I haven't wide receiver 13.
8:38It's not a, Oh, you got to bench him because also Parker Washington is really good.
8:43He's twitched up and he's going to win his fair share of reps against Gonzalez.
8:48I mean, Gonzalez got beat by Jeremy Bernard last week in certain place.
8:52Now he took DK Metcalf's lunch because Metcalf just one of the most overrated wide receivers in the NFL.
8:57So it's a matchup that I am going to be looking at every single play.
9:02My eyes are going to be glued to the screen between Parker Washington and Gonzalez.
9:06Cause I do think that he's going to match up with him a lot on Sunday.
9:11First read percentages in the NFL. Number one, Jackson Smith and Jigba.
9:15He's pretty good. Number two, a monitor St. Brown.
9:17He's pretty good. Number three, Justin Jefferson. You get it.
9:20Number four, Trey McBride. Number five, Parker Washington. Those are the four.
9:24There's only four players above him that are being seen on first reads more 39.5%.
9:28It is more than every other player in the NFL.
9:31Uh, Parker Washington is goaded and the real goat status of a fantasy pros in this show goes to Pat Fitzmaurice.
9:38So, uh, how about our true goat tells us what his feelings are on Parker Washington?
9:43You do it. I think you have one spot lower than ECR.
9:46You've got him as a wide receiver one though at 12.
9:49It's adorable that Erickson thinks, uh, Christian Gonzalez would be able to handle Parker Washington, especially if he, especially if he travels
9:56into the slot where he doesn't have the sideline to help him out.
10:00And you don't know which way Parker Washington is going.
10:03Not only does Parker Washington have that 35% target share that Erickson talked about 41.7% of the Jaguars receiving yards.
10:09So far 51.5% of the air yards, um, 4.31 yards per route run, which is just insane.
10:14Like this guy, we, we suspected over the off season, he might be a star.
10:19I think we've gotten our validation. Yeah. Well put too.
10:22I like, I like how you put that. Not one of the, we talked about it in the RB episode.
10:28Jonathan Brooks was kind of one of the, you know, the industry plants of like, and people joke about that because there's guys that pop up.
10:35And by the way, the whole idea of, of the people out there that think guys are like industry plants, it's because,
10:42you know, people do like research and they find underlying data.
10:45And then they, then they're like, why do these guys just pop up out of nowhere?
10:50And it's like, well, because people like research guys and they find them out.
10:54And Jonathan Brooks was a huge failure to that.
10:57Parker Washington is the living proof of that. Like everything that was built up, it looks like it's more and it is living through it.
11:05So I thought he was worthwhile talking about. Also, one other guy, this is a little bit more conversation we usually have
11:11than an RB wide receiver ones is Drake London.
11:14Drake London has been, you know, pretty much sat at the kiddie table last week.
11:18I think Erickson, you were putting him in like the twenties.
11:22We're back. We, we have Penix at quarterback. He is ECR 12 on this list and you guys are both higher, but Fitzy, you are the high guy.
11:30This is vintage Drake London. And it's just because Cooper Rush isn't back.
11:34I'd have to imagine, right? You've got him at wide receiver eight versus wide receiver 12 on ECR.
11:39Well, not just is it not Cooper Rush Welsh, but in the 12 games, Michael Penix Jr.
11:44has started for the Falcons in 2024 and 2025.
11:47He is hyper targeted Drake London. London has averaged 11.1 targets in Penix starts, 6.8 catches, 96.8 yards.
11:53And he scored eight touchdowns in those 12 games.
11:55So 82 catches, 1162 yards in Penix starts for London.
11:58Project that over a full season. 116 catches for 1,646 yards.
12:02All is all as well for Drake London. So anyone who's panic benching him in week three, that's a mistake.
12:08Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I feel like there's a little bit of hesitation because of just like Penix being healthy and being out there.
12:15But maybe back to your point you'd said earlier where it's like, well, if they clear him, you're going to feel confident about it.
12:23And you're going to feel confident that like, you know, he's we do know he does like three things.
12:28And luckily, those three things are B. John London and pits and like all of them are kind of revived a little bit.
12:35So Erickson, what do you think about Drake London this week after you literally were almost benching him completely?
12:41He's back into you. You're back into the circle of trust.
12:44You're back in the circle of trust. I retweeted Schefter after we got the Cooper Rush starting Citrake London last week.
12:51And then the minute that the panic snooze came through is like start Drake London this week.
12:56Like, I think that's the move to make. However, I do think that the fact that London has basically been not usable
13:02the first two weeks of the season and the fact that you've seen guys like Watson and Parker Washington really pop off.
13:09Those guys are all back to back to back in ECR.
13:12So I'm curious. They're going to want to ask this to Fitz because Fitz, if someone asks you, I can only start
13:19two of these receivers, London, Watson, Washington. You're going to tell them to bench one of Watson or Washington.
13:24And with Drake London coming back or with Michael Penix making his first start, I get the Packers are not a good deal.
13:31Like that's where I get kind of shaky because I'm like, I want to start Drake London in a vacuum.
13:37But Washington and Watson, those guys have been on fire.
13:40There's no reason to think that they won't continue to be on fire.
13:44I know I talked about the Gonzalez thing, but still like not enough for him like, oh, you can't play Parker Washington.
13:51So that's like my only hesitance with with being all in on Drake London because I definitely want to play him in most spots.
13:58But if you drafted a lot of strong receivers that are breaking out all over the place, is it more of a
14:05safe bet to just give it a week with London?
14:08It's Penix's first game back. And one thing, too, with London, his usage this year has not been entered, not the targets,
14:14but in terms of where he's being deployed, 19 percent slot rate this year.
14:19That's the lowest since his rookie season. So, Kevin Stefanski, are we doing a fake sharp thing here?
14:24Because the offense has looked basically horrible the first two weeks of the season.
14:28And is Penix going to be the savior, especially immediately?
14:31That's like my only pause on where I want to rank him in accordance with Washington and Watson, just as guys that
14:38you could got so much later than London. So, Fitz, what would you say to someone that they asked you that question?
14:44Right now, they're all top 15. I have Watson, the lowest justification is the Packers might as well have the three of
14:51us on the offensive line for as good as their line is right now.
14:55I'd probably be the better offensive lineman if we're being honest here between you guys.
15:00You guys would be liabilities. I might be, they might want to run Welsh side if we're being honest or pass Welsh side.
15:07But okay, that's a good answer. I'm glad you did that because that was kind of like what I was insinuating, I
15:13guess, when I'm like, there's a little hesitation and like what is the offense look like now with Penix in there?
15:19And it really is only applicable if it's a question exactly like Erickson said.
15:24So, well said. All right. We are going to talk about wide receiver twos coming up here in a minute, but this
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16:13All right. Wide receiver twos here. The big board coming in at 13 is Malik Nabors.
16:18Fun fact, yesterday he was 12. He was a top 12.
16:21Now, it might not matter to a lot of people, but the difference between a wide receiver one and two.
16:27Mike Evans comes in at 14. You've got Devonta Adams at 15.
16:31Jalen Waddle, Lad McConkie, Tedaro McMillan, Rasheed Rice, and then your final five from 20 to 24.
16:36T. Higgins, Emeka Egbuka, Zay Flowers, Jalen Coker, and Matthew Golden.
16:39Let's talk about Malik Nabors. Should we be more hesitant?
16:42Jackson Dart looks like he is out for the year.
16:45They are going to be with Jameis Winston. Didn't look great.
16:49Now, they can, with him in the offense, maybe they can install some new stuff, but that was a rough go.
16:55But it was thrust upon him a little bit.
16:58The question is, should we be more hesitant to Malik Nabors?
17:01And I think the answer kind of looks like a little bit yes, especially to you, Fitzy, where you've got him at 17.
17:08And I wonder if he free falls a little bit more now that we have affirmative news on the Jackson Dart stuff.
17:15So talk to us about Malik Nabors in week three for you.
17:18It all comes down to Jameis Welsh. And Jameis was completely dreadful on Monday night.
17:23Does he look better in week three with a full week of practice reps and a week of preparation to be the starter?
17:30Because Jameis has been a rainmaker for his pass catchers at times.
17:33He made Jerry Judy look like a star in Cleveland.
17:36But man, he was just so bad on Monday night.
17:39The one bit of good news for Nabors, he only played 52.2% of the Giants offensive snaps in week one.
17:45His snap share was up to 74.1% in week two.
17:48So they feel better about his health. He's going to be out there a lot.
17:53If we go back to like 350 yards a game Jameis, this could be great for Malik Nabors.
17:58Like I've got him in a couple of leagues and I'm going to start him, but it all comes down to Jameis really.
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19:56Additional terms apply. See website for details. Erickson, you've got them at, I think, 14.
20:01So you're like a right around line of consensus.
20:04Do you have more trust? Do you think the new, I don't know if this was a hedge at all either, because
20:10the dark news came down like, like pretty much like right as we were recording this episode.
20:15So any adjustments to that, if you were going to make any isn't out there.
20:20I agree that obviously the future of neighbors value is going to be tied to like how James Winston looks.
20:26But how do you treat that this week? And do you have a trust that they'll install enough this week?
20:32He will get the main targets. Winston can look, I mean, even 10% better will be a plus here.
20:38But what's your take on neighbors this week? Yeah, Winston looked so bad.
20:41I mean, it was horrible how bad he looked against the Rams.
20:45So I think that's what's being baked in here to neighbors rank.
20:49Not the fact that to Fitz's point, he played 74% of the snaps.
20:53And that was despite the fact that he missed time because he was getting work on his shoulder slash arm.
20:59So he probably would have had an even higher snap share had he not banged up his arm during the game.
21:05So he's back to a full time role locked and loaded as the alpha in this passing game.
21:10If you were to pull back the cards of the ECR and people had him at wide receiver five.
21:16And I was like, James Winston is a quarterback.
21:19I'd be like, I can see that. So so like there's still a such a ceiling play with him, because if you
21:25just look at last season in one game against the Lions, I believe James Winston threw for over 350 yards and two
21:32touchdowns in one of his two spot starts. Now, his other spot start was bad.
21:36So it's definitely a wide range of outcomes. But in terms of neighbors delivering a week winning performance, that is very much in play.
21:44And I know that we want to downgrade neighbors because he doesn't have Jackson Dart.
21:48The majority of NFL of his NFL career has not come with Jackson Dart.
21:52All of his production entire rookie year. No Jackson Dart before he got hurt in 2025.
21:57He played one game with Jackson Dart and that's the game he got hurt in.
22:02And we saw him play one more game in full with Jackson Dart.
22:05So it's a shame that we don't get to see these two talented players play together.
22:10But to neighbors credit, he'd been really good without Dart.
22:13So I feel like I want to be higher on neighbors just overall because of the upside case that we do get
22:20James, especially if everybody believes, oh, we're just going to get bad James again.
22:24When full week of install. I don't know exactly what the combination of Matt Nagy and Bill Callahan and Greg Roman are
22:31going to cook up for someone like James Winston.
22:33But I think they got to look and be like, dude, we just got to let him sling it, man.
22:39Like, like, like, like we're going to have any shot at doing any of this stuff.
22:44Just unleash James Winston. I remember seeing on the Monday night broadcast how James Winston after he threw an interception is like
22:51he still like leads the NFL in interception since 2015, because even though he hasn't been a starting quarterback for like the
22:57last four years because he threw so many picks with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
23:02So I think they just got to let sling it.
23:05So I'm like really teasing with the idea of just like screw it.
23:09Moving neighbors up pretty substantially because, dude, I would not.
23:12Is anyone going to be surprised? Oh, yeah, he's a top five wide receiver or he's the number one receiver on the
23:18week because James Winston just went full JMO mode and neighbors just absolutely feasted.
23:22So, I mean, and people are going to be the Titans, too.
23:26It's like, no, this isn't a bad matchup. This is Tennessee Titans.
23:30We're talking about here. So people are going to be panic benching him, too, because of the bad stat line for Monday night.
23:36And that's like you could bench him and he goes for one hundred eighty yards and two touchdowns.
23:42Yeah, my only problem is just James Winston. You guys ever seen the little sass meme where he gets drafted?
23:48James Winston, when he came in and played, he was just like me.
23:52Like it was it was like the most like, oh, are you being serious?
23:56Like I'm coming in. Like, that's how he played.
23:59Like, that's the only thing. He was not ready.
24:01He was not ready. I think they even said on the side, like he was like he was not feeling it.
24:08Yesterday or on Monday night. Yeah. Obviously, if you watch him play, clearly he was not in his element.
24:13But yeah, with the full week leading up to it, I mean, he's going to be he has to be better.
24:20He can't 11 of 27. Well, it's like, oh, my God, you say he has to be better.
24:25It's the Titans. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. Let's talk about the both of the Panthers wide receivers.
24:31Really interesting here. Teddero McMillan comes in at 18.
24:33You guys have a little bit of a split.
24:36But then Jalen Coker also shows up as a wide receiver, too.
24:40And there's a kind of a rough agreement, I suppose.
24:43But I guess what the key marker here is, is Fitzy, you are the lower man.
24:47So let's start with you. You're low man on both.
24:50So I don't know if for you this is matchup based against Cleveland.
24:54It's actually graded out relatively well. I actually would.
24:57I don't know. I kind of think this might work be beneficial to Jalen Coker, frankly, in the same idea of like
25:04Parker Washington week one playing out of the slot.
25:06But you've got Coker outside of a wide receiver, too.
25:09And you have Teddero McMillan just holding on as a wide receiver to Fitzy.
25:13So down on the Panthers wide receivers. Talk to us about them against the Browns.
25:18I feel bad about having this because I feel like I'm the Teddero McMillan truther.
25:22And I know a lot of people think Jalen Coker is this thorn in his side.
25:27And Coker has thus far put up better numbers than T-Mac.
25:31But like I would contend it does help Teddero McMillan have a good complementary receiver.
25:35I think it's worth noting that McMillan has a bigger air yard share than Coker right now.
25:4039.2% air yards for T-Mac. 27.8% for Coker. I see that as kind of a bellwether where this is going to end
25:47up as far as the fantasy value of Teddero McMillan versus the fantasy value of Jalen Coker.
25:52But this is very much kind of Cleveland related for me.
25:55Welch. Erickson always talks about Ford Field as the core's field of the NFL.
25:59Welch, you are the baseball guy. What field now currently most suppresses run creation in MLB?
26:04Oh, Mariners. What is it? It's the Mariners. It's the Mariners.
26:08I'm not thinking of whatever their home, but it's Seattle.
26:11I know it used to be Oakland with their like three square miles of foul territory in the heavy Bay air.
26:17But yeah, Seattle's got a big park too, right?
26:20Yeah. T-Mobile Park. You guys can call that. It's the T-Mobile Park of the NFL if you want to do that.
26:26That's your run suppression place. Yeah. And Cleveland is the T-Mobile Park of the NFL with its, you know, winds off Lake Erie gusting unpredictably.
26:33It just seems like we get slogs in the dog pond a lot of the times.
26:38That's kind of where this is coming from. And if the wind is blowing like you want a strong armed quarterback who
26:45can like knife spirals through that strong wind. I don't think that's Bryce Young.
26:49Erickson, you're not like pounding the table for these guys, but you're essentially ECR on both.
26:54So Fitzy was just kind of like backtracked on both of these Panthers wide receivers.
26:58You have almost both of them at ECR again.
27:01Ted Rowe is at 18 where you have him.
27:04Jalen Coker is 23. You have met 24, both wide receiver twos.
27:07Both these guys are really good. I think that's like the main takeaway I've seen from the first two weeks of the season.
27:14They have basically combined for 50% of the entire passing game for the Carolina Panthers.
27:19That has low key been one of the highest pass rates in the NFL under their new offensive play caller, Brad Isik.
27:25Like fourth highest pass rate over expectation. So I do want to give the flowers to the Panthers coaching staff to we
27:32don't know if Bryce Young's our franchise quarterback. Let's let him sling it.
27:36Let's figure out if he can be our franchise quarterback.
27:39So whether he sinks or swim so far, he's been swimming and it's been really great.
27:44I think that this is a good litmus test for him because it's not the Falcons.
27:48It's not the Bears. It's going to be the Browns on the road, which is a much tougher matchup.
27:54They play a lot better at home like Fitz alluded to.
27:57But I just I've been so impressed by both of these wide receivers this season in terms of what they've been able to do.
28:05Jalen Coker has been so absurdly efficient. He's got 89% of his passes 16 for 18 for 204 yards and two touchdowns.
28:11So maybe that means, okay, he's going to get hit with regression at some point.
28:16Obviously, if a player had an 89% catch rate all season, that would be absolutely absurd.
28:21But if you look at Coker's career, it's got a really high catch rate.
28:25So this is going to be something that's going to continue to happen.
28:29He's going to continue to be efficient. And then T-Mac still really strong peripheral numbers.
28:33The area chair has been really strong for him.
28:36And among all receivers, he has the most combined red zone targets and zone targets without a touchdown yet this season.
28:42And I do want to talk to about Bryson or excuse me, Tyson Campbell, one of the Browns perimeter cornerbacks is banged up.
28:49So if he doesn't play, it's just Denzel Ward.
28:52They can pick on the slot cornerback for the Cleveland Browns.
28:55I still think that these Panthers receivers are in that wide receiver to conversation because I just think they're both really good.
29:02So and especially if T-Mac hits on some positive touchdown regression, which eventually he is going to find pay dirt.
29:08And it will not be Darren Waller scoring more touchdowns for the third straight week in a row, it seems like.
29:14Yeah. And that's why I like Jalen Coker. Jalen Coker, 44% out of the slot.
29:19Ted Oroa is 27%. Fun fact, you said, and this is a little bit of the thing, like a positive regression point for Ted Oroa McMillan.
29:26You said 89% catch rate essentially for Coker, only 58%, 59% if you round it up for Ted Oroa McMillan.
29:32So there's a lot of unrealized gains there. But Coker, higher first read share than, than McMillan in the offense.
29:38And you're talking about passer rating as well. It's around like a, the passer rating when going to Ted Oroa McMillan, it was 90.
29:46I just went away from it. It was like 96 something, 127.
29:49Here it is 94.2 to McMillan, 127.8 to Coker.
29:52So efficiency has just been there. He's a main target.
29:55Coker's pretty exciting. He's a wide receiver too. I want to pose a question to you guys.
30:00We talked about on the trade show. Would you rather have either of these Panthers wide receivers or Terry McLaurin?
30:06Rest of season. McMillan. I'm going to make people mad.
30:09I would rather have Coker than McMillan. I think.
30:12Dude, it's Coker than McMillan or Coker than McLaurin?
30:14I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Then McLaurin, McLaurin, McLaurin. I'd Coker.
30:17I'd rather have both Panthers receivers than Terry. I would.
30:20Just because he's boomer bus. I don't like the boomer.
30:23I'm not a big like cool. I'm with you guys.
30:26That's why I settle too. I get wide receiver two.
30:29Yeah, you get wide receiver two overall in week one and then you get like three weeks of absolutely nothing and then he goes off again.
30:37That's not my cup of tea without Daniels. Yeah, and Marcus Mariota doesn't stink as a passer, but he's no Jaden Daniels like that.
30:44This is a downgrade for McLaurin. And I think that's a deal you can.
30:49I mean, if you send Terry McCorn to get Jalen Coker, I think that deals getting done.
30:54That's a really good one. I think you can make that.
30:57You look the rest of his rankings. It's got Terry ahead.
31:00I'll bet you the Coker stakeholders are pretty happy right now with the hand there.
31:05That is fair. You're not wrong, but I would bet you if you had 10 offers go out, I'll bet you at least 40% of those.
31:13I have four out of 10 are at least getting accepted.
31:16So I think that's actually worth exploring in leagues.
31:19I like that a lot. All right. Final one here.
31:22Matthew Golden, maybe maybe a surprise for people jumps in as a wide receiver to this week coming in at 24.
31:28That would be when you're talking about target shares of what Golden has been able to do in this offense going up against Atlanta.
31:35You guys are both not quite there, but you're not haters.
31:38You got a more as a wide receiver three this week, but he is a wide receiver to Fitzy.
31:44Why don't you kick us off? You're a little bit lower.
31:47You're 27. So you're a couple spots off of ECR.
31:50But again, still a wide receiver three for you.
31:53Talk to us about Matthew Golden. And I'm still pretty positive.
31:56I might have to come up on him because Golden has lined up outside on 88% of his snaps so far this season.
32:03And AJ Terrell, the Falcons best outside cornerback just went on injured reserve.
32:07And I've not yet accounted for that in my ranking.
32:10Huge. So yeah, Golden's going to come up a little bit.
32:1418 targets so far, as many as Christian Watson.
32:16They're both tied for eighth in the league in targets.
32:19And Golden's average depth of target is what I really like so far.
32:23Only 10.4 yards. Not just a field stretcher. Not just a go-route scarecrow who's meant to open up stuff underneath for Watson and Tucker Craft.
32:31Like, Golden has been good so far. And like, with no AJ Terrell, solid outlook for week three.
32:36Top 15 in the league in target percentage at 25.4 with Watson.
32:40Erickson, what do you think about Matthew Golden? You're 26.
32:43Again, wide receiver three. You're not any haters or anything like that.
32:46You're still advocating in a start. What are your feelings on Matthew Golden this week?
32:51I think that he's a good back-end wide receiver two flex play.
32:54Similar to the reasons that Fitz laid out. He's playing really well.
32:58I mean, similar to Jalen Coker where you have these two top wide receivers that are both guarding the majority of targets in their offense.
33:06Now, the only caveat indifference is Tucker Craft is going to continue to get ramped up.
33:10He played all the snaps last week for the Green Bay Packers.
33:14So, he's going to continue to see volume in this offense.
33:17But if I just look at how the Packers are going to attack the Falcons defense, they can't rush the passers.
33:24I can get their Packers off as a line is not good, but at least they're playing at home.
33:29And I think that's an advantage for them and they just can't run the football.
33:34So, I think this is an opportunity for Jordan Love to cook with his top two receivers with Tucker Craft.
33:40And that obviously means Golden has the opportunity for a spike week, especially with Terrell out.
33:45All right, let's take a look at our wide receiver threes.
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34:03Get started at fantasypros.com slash start sit. Wide receiver threes 25 through 36 for the week.
34:08We've got Puka Nakua coming in at 25. Again, I would point out Zay Flowers is 22.
34:13Puka was 25. I think these are kind of hedge ranks right now.
34:17Jamison Williams comes in at 26. DK Metcalf at 27.
34:20Deebo making top 30 this week at 28. We've got Josh Downs, Romeo Dobbs, Stepon Diggs, Terry McLaurin.
34:25So Diggs over McLaurin for this week. Adonai Mitchell at 33.
34:28Chris Godwin, Luther Burden, and Ontavian Wicks. Josh Downs is a really interesting space here.
34:33Obviously Pierce is out. We've seen separation from Downs.
34:36We just haven't seen like insane volume. You two are split.
34:39ECR is 29. It almost splits the upright for you guys.
34:42Erickson, you are higher fits. You are lower. Erickson, why don't you talk about a positive case here for Josh Downs?
34:49You have met like wide receiver 27. Of the Colts last week with a 27.3 target share, which more than doubled what he saw in week one.
34:57Seven catches for 72 yards, played 83% of snaps, was a team leader and routes run for the second straight week.
35:03This is what we wanted, right? Josh Downs in a full time role in this offense.
35:08I know that the Colts offense from a passing perspective hasn't been all there with Daniel Jones coming off his Achilles injury.
35:14But I just still think that the fact the Colts defense can't stop anybody.
35:19I think that there's going to be a game script where the Colts are going to have to throw at least a decent chunk.
35:26And I think Josh Downs is going to be their guy.
35:29I mean, throughout his entire career, all he has done has been really efficient and commanded targets at a high rate.
35:35And I think we saw that on display in week two.
35:39I think that's just going to continue in week three against the Texans.
35:43I get that they have very strong cornerbacks between Derek Stanley and the rest of the gang, but the Texans defense this
35:49season has also given up a ton of explosive passing plays.
35:52The bills were ripping off big plays last week.
35:55The Bengals were ripping off big plays. So if the Colts offense is going to have any chance of keeping up here
36:02and winning this game, I think it's going to be involving Josh Downs as one of their low key explosive playmakers.
36:08So that's why I like Downs as a wide receiver three this week.
36:12Yeah. And according to fantasy points, fantasy points, he is a number one in separation score.
36:17Average separation score is number one in the NFL.
36:20He's also running more routes than he's ever done before.
36:23Just the ball hasn't gotten to him yet. So I think that's one of those things where you start to look at you like incredible separation numbers.
36:31You know, he's running all the routes. He's out there consistently.
36:34They're not taking him on the field. Got to got to break out soon.
36:38We got to have the Josh Downs game, but it has not happened yet.
36:42Fitzy, your take on Josh Downs this week. You are lower.
36:46You have him at 35. So you still have him as a, again, it's picky here.
36:50You have him as a wide receiver three, but barely.
36:53So quite a bit lower than ECR. I really struggled on where to rank Josh Downs this week.
36:59And Erickson just sort of touched on it. Like the Texans defense has not been elite so far this season.
37:05But they were going against Josh Allen in week one and Joe Burrow in week two.
37:10Allen just completely diced them up and Joe Burrow did a fair amount of business against them.
37:15So the Colts passing game, just not on the level of the Bills or Bengals passing games.
37:20And that's kind of the concern. So I don't know what we're going to get from Downs if it's sort of low
37:26calorie PPR production in this game or if he can actually make some plays downfield.
37:31I do feel good that he is, he's been in the slot like three quarters of the time.
37:36And I worried that with Keenan Allen around, maybe the Colts might have Downs line up outside more often.
37:42And they, they tried some of that in the preseason.
37:45Just didn't seem like it was really working. Like Downs is kind of a little guy and if cornerbacks can get their
37:52hands on him on the snap, it just kind of throws him off.
37:56But like, I wouldn't be surprised if Downs had a high volume, good game against this defense because that's one of the few things that works for them.
38:04Jonathan Taylor, Josh Downs, that's pretty much the indie offense right now.
38:08What has worked pretty well the first couple of weeks has been Adnai Mitchell and Adnai Mitchell is now showing up as
38:14a wide receiver three on this list. Very target heavy last week.
38:18He is 33 and Erickson, you have bumped him up.
38:21You've got him inside of your top 30 here.
38:24So, and just as like a little aside note, I think this is interesting.
38:28You have him higher than Luther Burden for this week.
38:31We're going to talk about Burden in a second.
38:33Or, I mean, you know what? Honestly, let's just kind of throw him into this.
38:38I think he's kind of a fun mixture as like a who'd you rather.
38:42Erickson, you've got Luther Burden at 39 and he is wide receiver 35.
38:46So in ECR, they're two spots out. You have them more than 10 spot difference.
38:51And Fitzy says, hold my beer because it is almost 15 spots higher.
38:54Burden not even in the realm of start ability here.
38:57So you're welcome to kind of intertwine them. Erickson, we'll start with you.
39:01But very pro Adnai Mitchell here and very anti Luther Burden.
39:05If it was not raining in the Jets game last week, Mitchell would have easily gone for over 100 yards against the Green Bay Packers.
39:12But because it was raining and he has what we call stone hands, he did drop a lot of his passes.
39:18So that's why I only caught six of 12 targets for 63 yards.
39:22Garrett Wilson actually outproduced him on less volume. But this is why we chase air yards.
39:27This is why we chase targets and opportunities for the following week.
39:31Because when you look at Mitchell, how he has performed through two weeks of the season, he leads the NFL in air yard share.
39:3857%. Guys, they're playing a forefield. This is where the air show happens for a guy like A.D.
39:43Mitchell. No weather to worry about. He's going to catch at least more than half of his passes this time around against
39:50the Detroit Lions secondary that they can't stop anybody.
39:53Gino Smith is going to cook here. And I think that this could be a monster game for Adonai Mitchell.
39:59I would not surprise him because he goes for over 100 yards if he sees this type of volume again.
40:05We know he can create a ton of separation.
40:07And I don't think that he's going to have as many problems squeezing the football like he did last week.
40:13So I think him and Garrett Wilson are just going to absolutely both feast.
40:18And then on the flip side of it, why are we excited about playing Luther Burden this week?
40:23He's gotten volume the last two games and diddly squat has been the result with Luther Burden.
40:28Really no production to speak of. So at least the defendants of Colson Levin can say, OK, well, he's not getting the rock like that's not his fault.
40:37Whereas Luther Burden has been getting opportunities and has done nothing with them.
40:40You actor in the Eagles matchup. Not good. The quarterback injury.
40:44Not good. I don't think there's a reason why.
40:46Oh, yeah, you got to start Luther Burden this week when a guy like A.D.
40:51Mitchell. I mean, the targets are there. The matchup is their opportunities are there.
40:55And I think Mitchell's a really talented player. Again, you just got to squeeze the football, man.
41:00Yeah, I like the I like the debate. And I actually want I want I'm thinking I just laughing because I'm thinking
41:07of the graphic our social team could do where it's Erickson and Burden and it's Luther Burden diddly squat.
41:13Like the quote I 100 percent expected you to say, like, that's just a great graphic there.
41:18Put it on a shirt. Fitzy, you're not optimistic.
41:20Now, so well, I guess you're on ECR. I shouldn't say that at all.
41:25You are on ECR. I'm at I Mitchell. So you're down.
41:28You're really lower. You're 12 spots lower than ECR and Luther Burden.
41:32So take this however you want into pro at night.
41:35Mitchell negative burden. That's the battle between these two.
41:37And you clearly are on side and I Mitchell.
41:40I'm not starting Luther Burden against the Eagles with Case Keenum at quarterback for the Bears.
41:45And I've got burden on a bunch of teams.
41:47So like I'm putting my money where my mouth is and putting burden on my bench.
41:52Also kind of concerning that burden played for fewer snaps than Khalif Raymond in week two.
41:57Like burden only had a 57 percent snap share weirdness with the weather in Chicago.
42:02Maybe that was it. But it was kind of reminiscent of early last season when burden was routinely getting out snapped by a Lama day's a case.
42:10But burden was a rookie last year and the slow ramp up then made sense.
42:14But like we seem to be getting the Luther Burden breakout late last season.
42:18So why is he playing fewer snaps than Khalif Raymond?
42:21I don't get it. Ben Johnson had a bad game and in week two, like his play calling was terrible and he
42:28made some dumb decisions and he probably cost his team the game.
42:32And I Mitchell, Mr. Erickson here is slandering the frying pan hands of Adonai.
42:36I'll have you know, sir, that a lot of those air yards came on an early deep throw covering nearly 50 yards
42:42where Keyshawn Nixon just completely ran over Adonai Mitchell for a pass interference penalty.
42:47So credit Adonai with getting the Jets almost 50 yards on that play.
42:51But yeah, so crazy stat from our friends at fantasy points.
42:54Adonai Mitchell is like currently wide receiver 25 and expected fantasy points per game.
42:58And he's 35 in half point PPR fantasy scoring.
43:01So like he could be doing even better because of some of the things we talked about.
43:06Yeah, just wild that he is leading the NFL in air yard share with 59.4%.
43:10Garrett Wilson, his air yard share for the Jets 37.5.
43:13That's like a robust air yard share. And Adonai Mitchell is just completely dwarfing him in that category.
43:19And he's going to see. Oh, I was just going to say 80 Mitchell.
43:23So 15 targets to 14 for Garrett Wilson. So yeah, man fire up 80 Mitchell this week against that bad Lions defense.
43:30You ever see those bits they do where they ask a player, they're like build the best, you know, receiver.
43:36And then they do all the parts. And it was like, Adonai Mitchell has so many of the good parts.
43:42It's like the separation, the speed. And then it's like when they got the hands, he accidentally said Vernon Davis.
43:48You know what I mean? Like Vernon Davis is stone hands.
43:51Like that's the thing that he's missing. So please redo that.
43:54The real ones remember when 80 Mitchell was cooking Christian Gonzalez on Thursday night football for the Jets last year.
44:00And he dropped all the passes, even though he was wide open.
44:04Yeah. And then the one, the, the, the famous one that he dropped, unfortunately, after he caught it last one in this group.
44:11And then we'll get a deep play from you guys is Don Tavian Wicks.
44:15He's broken the plane top 36. This is probably very heavily matchup based.
44:19You also have Goddard out buns on the secondary for the bear.
44:22You can just do stuff against the bears. He is 36.
44:26You guys, um, actually, I don't know if I have Fitzsies on here.
44:30I see Erickson at 35. Um, Fitz, I'm not sure where you have him, but Erickson, once you kick us off here,
44:36talk to us about Don Tavian Wicks this week.
44:39He's played two weeks and he has had his two of the best games he's ever had in his career over these first two weeks of the season.
44:47Three of his seven high scoring games have occurred the last two games.
44:51So he's producing. He seems to have a connection with Jalen hurts.
44:55His target share has been pretty flat across the board, 16% through two weeks.
44:59So not overwhelming amounts of targets in the offense, but given the fact that Dallas Goddard is out.
45:04I think that Wicks is going to continue to produce in a positive matchup.
45:09So 2.8 yards per run leads all Eagles receivers.
45:11This season ranks top 10 among all pass catchers, at least 50 routes, 14.7 yards per target leads the NFL.
45:17So he's showing that even on limited volume, which necessarily shouldn't be the case with Sigmund Barkley kind of banged up Dallas Goddard out of the lineup.
45:25I think Don Tavian Wicks is just going to continue to produce.
45:29So I think that if you pick them up off waivers and you need a wide receiver to play this week, I think that he's very viable.
45:37Fitz, where do you have Don Tavian Wicks this week?
45:40I'm a little lower wide receiver 43. And the two things that give me pause here are that in week one, Wicks
45:47played 90.9% of the offensive snaps down to 70.1% in week two, like played one fewer snap than Makai Lemon.
45:53And Darius Cooper also seem to be cutting into Wicks snap share a little bit in week two.
45:58So I don't know if that's an anomaly or a trend.
46:01And the other thing, although the Bears offense or defense is, as Erickson would say, buns, probably the best part of their
46:08defense is the outside cornerback duo of Jalen Johnson and Tyreek Stevenson.
46:12Like those guys are capable. The rest of the defense, terrible.
46:15But, you know, that's who Wicks is probably going to be facing.
46:19Buns counters up to like six or whatever for the episode.
46:22Very good. Final thing in here. Deep play. Let's talk about a deep play outside the top 36 that you guys might be trying to get into lineups.
46:30You guys have both of these players you're going to list inside your top 36 as wide receiver three.
46:36So, Erickson, you can kick it off here. Who is your deep play, deeper play wide receiver that is not top 36 in ECR?
46:43My deep play is Michael Wilson, wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals.
46:47He's actually had a pretty strong target share through two weeks.
46:50It was 19% in week one, actually up to 24% in week two.
46:54So he's seeing volume. It's pretty clear through the first two games that he's the number two option on this Cardinals passing attack where Marvin Harrison Jr.
47:02is just absolutely buried in terms of where Jacoby Brissett is looking to get the ball to.
47:07Last week was tough, obviously, against Seattle Seahawks, just two for seven for 18 yards.
47:12But still, seven targets led the Cardinals in routes run.
47:15So the fact that he's had a 24% target share through the first two games, obviously, it's behind Trey McBride.
47:21But in negative game script against a 49ers defense that isn't nearly as good as the Seahawks defense, I think that Michael
47:27Wilson can get you some decent PPR points. And last year when he played the 49ers, he would almost have 200 receiving yards in that game.
47:35So I think that last week is going to have people sour on Michael Wilson when he's actually been seeing steady volume in an offense.
47:43It's probably going to have to throw 35 or 40 times while playing catch up to the 49ers offense.
47:48Fitzy, you got a wide receiver you're putting at 30, but he does not make this list.
47:53This is a really good sleeper. Who's your sleeper for the week?
47:57Do you guys know who's leading the NFL in routes run at wide receiver so far?
48:02I only do because I know the name you're going to say, and I'm going to have to assume it's him, but you're going to tell us.
48:10Let's hear it. I love it. It's Devon Vele.
48:13Now, granted, part of that was because I think Tyler Shuck dropped back 189 times against the Lions in week one.
48:19But yeah, 89 routes run so far for Devon Vele.
48:22Chris Olave is tied for second in the league in routes run with DK Metcalf, and he's second on his own team in routes run.
48:3012 catches, 133 yards for Devon Vele, one touchdown.
48:32I think he's a viable start this week against the Raiders.
48:36Love it. Great stuff. Top 36, a little bit of deep play action.
48:39Make sure you guys are locked into fantasypros.com slash rankings to check out ECR throughout the week as it changes.
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49:06That is going to do it here for us on the Wide Receiver Ranks episode.
49:10Quarterbacks and tight ends still coming up, so make sure you check that out.
49:14For Andrew Erickson and Pat Fitzmaurice, I'm Chris Welsh.
49:17Thank you for hanging with us, and we'll talk to you next time right here on Fantasy Pros.
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