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Fantasy Football Draft Q&A: Biggest Risers, Sleepers, & Busts for 2026 (Ep. 2146)

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1 hr 6 min

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Aug 21, 2026

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Fri, August 21, 2026

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Topics

Alec PierceAlvin KamaraAmon-Ra St. BrownBijan RobinsonBlake CorumBryce LanceBryce YoungChase BrownChris OlaveChris RodriguezChristian McCaffreyColston LovelandHarold FanninJalen Coker

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Alec Pierce

PositiveRole9:55

Derek Brown moved Alec Pierce down to WR46, noting that the addition of Keenan Allen and Pierce's ongoing injury recovery make his role uncertain; he may be relegated to a field-stretching role rather than a primary target.

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Alvin Kamara

NegativeInjury42:00

Kamara is dealing with health issues dating back to last year; there is a risk he could miss the entire season or never return to 100% health.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

NegativeInjury6:52

Derek Brown highlights that Amon-Ra St. Brown played through a rib injury and hand-foot-mouth disease last season without it appearing on the official injury report, illustrating that teams frequently hide injury information.

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Bijan Robinson

PositiveValue65:17

Robinson is a recommended keeper in a $250 budget league, despite his $85 cost, alongside Devonta Smith.

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Blake Corum

NegativeUsage60:39

The source notes that while they previously made a 'hot take' that Blake Corum could reach 200 carries, they are skeptical because the Rams may not be a pace-up offense with enough play volume to support two fantasy-relevant backs.

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Bryce Lance

PositiveSleeper46:51

Lance is viewed as the clear WR2 for the Saints and a must-draft with the last pick of drafts. Despite being 'bubble-wrapped' during preseason, he is healthy and performing well in practice.

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Bryce Young

NegativeProjection35:26

The source expresses concern regarding Bryce Young's passing volume, noting that in weeks 13-18, he surpassed 35 attempts only once and had only two games over 225 yards, while directing an offense that ranked fifth in neutral rushing rate.

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Chase Brown

PositiveValue48:46

The source ranks Chase Brown as their RB5 and prefers him over other round two running back options like Kenneth Walker or Devon Achane, citing high conviction in his role.

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Chris Olave

NegativeProjection43:29

Following news regarding Jordan Tyson, Olave has been bumped up to WR7. He is a confident draft pick, as he finished as the WR7 in fantasy points per game last year and is not considered a major health risk compared to other players.

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Chris Rodriguez

PositiveValue50:30

Rodriguez is not worth keeping in a sleeper keeper league as he lacks the necessary upside to justify the draft equity cost.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeDepth Chart57:41

The backup situation behind McCaffrey is murky, with Jordan James and Caelan Black competing for touches. It is expected to be a committee approach if McCaffrey were to miss time.

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Colston Loveland

NegativeValue54:07

Drafting Loveland in the third or fourth round is viable, but it requires a specific roster construction where the manager aggressively targets wide receivers in the following rounds to compensate.

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Harold Fannin

PositiveValue5:29

Derek Brown notes that Harold Fannin is looking like an attractive option in the sixth round of drafts given the current landscape of tight end injuries.

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Jalen Coker

PositiveSleeper31:45

Derek Brown is high on Jalen Coker as a late-round PPR sleeper, noting that he outproduced Jonathan Mingo in per-route metrics during the latter part of last season.

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Jalen Hurts

PositiveProjection26:56

Derek Brown ranks Jalen Hurts as his QB3 for the upcoming season, emphasizing his elite rushing upside as a key differentiator.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveBreakout57:31

Williams is a player the source is 'all in' on for the upcoming season, noting his potential for a breakout performance.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveProjection57:12

Waddle is highly regarded, ranked as a top-tier wide receiver, and is preferred over other options like Jameson Williams in draft scenarios.

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Jonathan Mingo

NegativeValue33:17

Derek Brown notes a significant ADP gap between Jonathan Mingo and Jalen Coker, suggesting Mingo is overpriced as a WR3/4 compared to the value offered by Coker.

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Jonathon Brooks

PositiveProjection61:27

Brooks is a strong target who could provide a solid floor of 10-13 PPR points per week, with potential for 800-900 yards and 6-7 touchdowns. He is viewed as a potential league winner if he performs at a high level.

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Jordyn Tyson

NegativeInjury46:49

Tyson is being avoided entirely due to a recurring history of knee and hamstring injuries dating back to the pre-draft process. The Saints are expected to be slow in ramping him up, making him a non-factor for the early season.

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Josh Allen

PositiveProjection62:17

In 2QB formats, the source recommends prioritizing Josh Allen as the QB1 before addressing the QB2 position, noting that specific draft room dynamics should dictate the subsequent strategy.

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Josh Downs

NegativeRole12:03

Derek Brown dropped Josh Downs to WR56, projecting that once Alec Pierce returns, Downs will be relegated to a part-time slot role, similar to his usage last season.

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Josh Jacobs

NegativeBust29:56

Derek Brown expresses concern regarding Josh Jacobs, citing his age (28), high career carry volume (1800+), and recent injury history, suggesting he is a risky asset compared to David Montgomery.

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Juwan Johnson

PositiveValue45:38

Johnson is ranked as the TE14 but is considered a wonderful bet at his current cost, serving as a solid late-round tight end option that provides a mix of floor and upside.

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Keenan Allen

PositiveValue11:59

Derek Brown ranks Keenan Allen as WR55, ahead of Josh Downs, citing Allen's high route win rate (14th among qualifying WRs) and efficiency as a perimeter receiver (18th) last season; he remains a strong value at his current ADP.

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Kyren Williams

NegativeUsage58:42

The source views Kyren Williams as appropriately priced, noting that while there is speculation about Blake Corum potentially taking touches, Williams has proven he can retain his role and remain a top-15 back.

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Puka Nacua

PositiveBreakout45:33

The source argues Puka Nacua has the upside to be the first wide receiver to average 26 PPR points per game, noting that if his touchdowns were flipped with Davante Adams' last year, he would have already hit that mark.

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Sam LaPorta

NegativeInjury3:59

Sam LaPorta is dealing with an injury that has created uncertainty regarding his Week 1 availability; Dan Campbell's comments were described as nondescript, leading to significant concern.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeValue56:21

When choosing between keeping Higgins or Malik Nabers, Nabers is the clear and superior choice.

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Travis Etienne

PositiveRole67:25

The source bumped Travis Etienne up to RB18 following the news of Alvin Kamara's injury, projecting Etienne to serve as a workhorse back for the Saints.

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Tyler Warren

PositiveProjection5:19

Dr. Deepak Chona expects Tyler Warren to play in Week 1, despite the ongoing injury concerns surrounding the Colts' tight end room.

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Episode Transcript

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0:21All right, and welcome into Fantasy Pros live on Twitch.

0:24And what a time it's been in the NFL world as of late as training camp continues to unfold.

0:30And with the injury stacking up on the players you might want to draft in your league, so we're firing up another

0:36Q&A coming your way right here on twitch.tv slash fantasy pros to answer your burning questions.

0:41I'm your host Seth Wilcock, joined by a man who we found out last episode plays the role of Mr.

0:47Belding around these parts. That's right. He's bald, he's sarcastic, and sometimes a little cranky if he doesn't get his energy drink in the morning.

0:55He's downtown, Derek Brown. D-Bro, thanks so much for taking time out of the busy schedule of wrangling the kids all day

1:02to hang out with me and the Fantasy Pros family.

1:05Cranky, huh? All right, that's how we're starting it off?

1:08Okay. All right. You chose violence today, Seth. I'm here for it, man.

1:12I'm here for it. But actually, it's been a little bit more productive and efficient around these parts.

1:17Kids are back into school, so now I'm just playing the role of unpaid Uber driver every single day.

1:23I've got another meet-the-teacher thing tonight. So lots of fun in the afternoons on a daily basis, fighting the Texas heat and picking up kids.

1:30It's definitely trying not to let the road rage get the best of me.

1:35Hey, that's why you probably have a cupboard of number one dad mugs, if I had to guess.

1:40I don't know if you use mugs so you don't drink coffee really, but I bet you have a cupboard full of them no matter what.

1:48This was last year's... There you go. That's last year's...

1:51This is basically just the junk drawer of my desk, but that was from kids last year, Father's Day.

1:57There we go. All right. All right. Hit it right on the hammer.

2:01Hit it right on the nail there. There we go.

2:04I don't know. Guys, go ahead and drop your questions below.

2:07Let us know how we can help you. Maybe we'll get some mugs in the future from you for number one fantasy football draft analyst.

2:15We'd appreciate that. And we'll be sure to get to as many as we can over the next 55 to 60 or so minutes.

2:22And also you can check out FantasyPros YouTube channel and podcast feed.

2:25Ton of great episodes out there and short form content.

2:28Derek, I'm gonna be sitting down with Dr. Deepak Chona on Monday and I've never looked forward to hosting an episode so

2:35much because it has been brutal the last seven to 14 days.

2:39It feels like in the NFL calendar. And today, Sam Laporta, does he play week one?

2:44And today? No, no, I didn't. Oh, you didn't see that?

2:47Yeah. Sam, no, I got up with a injury and they asked Dan Campbell.

2:51So do you think Sam Laporte is gonna? How does it look?

2:55And Dan's like, well, I don't know. Maybe he's out there.

2:58Who knows? It was so nondescript that I'm like, oh, that's just wonderful.

3:02So this just makes even more of a case.

3:05Get your Brock powers. Get your Colston Loveland. Tyler Warren.

3:08We don't know. Sam Laporta. We don't know. Tucker craft playing limited snaps.

3:12Oh, Titan got rough really fast for every year when we say it's deep.

3:16Yeah, we say it. We say it. That's for sure, man.

3:19I'll tell you what Dr. Deepak Chona did put out something about Warren earlier today that he is expecting him to play week.

3:26One, I'll get more information from him on Monday.

3:29But you know, Harold Fannin is looking pretty sexy all of a sudden in the sixth round.

3:34I'll tell you what. I mean, and not to push back against Deepak or anything like that.

3:39I just think the thing that we have to remind ourselves also with all those injury stuff is even with the Tyler Warren stuff.

3:47We really do not know like the sure. Oh, sure.

3:50Yeah. Yeah. Teams lie consistently all the freaking time.

3:52And if everybody doesn't believe me about this, I kindly point you go watch any one of these Netflix documentaries and you

3:59can point out multiple spots where Baker has a an entire purple arm and nobody knows that week.

4:05And he's not on the injury report because he's wearing a damn sleeve.

4:08So yeah, right. You don't know that that's the case.

4:12Amon Ross saying Brown gets hand foot mouth snaps a rib.

4:15Is that on the injury report? No. So these teams constantly lie and the NFL doesn't hold their feet to the fire.

4:22So just take all of it with a grain of salt.

4:25That's all I'm saying. Nope. Completely agreed with you there.

4:28And you know, you've been doing a great job, D bro.

4:31You're putting in our analyst chat every day. Every time an update comes through, update the rank.

4:36So, hey, you're doing a, you're doing a great job as well as our audience.

4:41Thank you guys all so much again for tuning in with us today.

4:45We got Drezzy hanging out with us. Jay Chow saying, yo, yo, D bro and Seth.

4:50What's up, Jay Chow. Great to see you. We got Cap saying, let's go.

4:54Good to see you, Cap. Miranda, one of our favorites checking in as well saying, hey, pros.

4:59Frankie love 88 saying, what's up guys. Squid wild saying, what's up drafters.

5:03We got Prezzy hanging out again as well. And yes, glad you cap were finally able to make a live show, man.

5:10It's a great Thursday afternoon here. And D bro, what do you say, man?

5:14Will you get to some questions and start helping the fine people of the world?

5:18Let's get it rolling, baby. Let's light this candle.

5:21All right. First one is from Jay Chow saying, how are we feeling about the effects of Keenan Allen signing on the,

5:28on the other members of the Colts receiving group?

5:31So take the Tyler Warren injury out of it.

5:33And let's just assume maybe he in a perfect world, he does play in week one, maybe not a hundred percent effective, but he's out there.

5:41Where are you ranking the Colts currently in redraft from a season long standpoint?

5:45I didn't move Daniel Jones and I didn't move JT.

5:49So I want to just throw that out there.

5:51Um, so the way that I'm approaching this entire situation, Alec Pierce, I moved, uh, I think I moved him down a little bit further.

5:59He's at wider C for 46 for me. Um, and I I'm pulling up right now where we're at with here.

6:05Let me see one second. I'm pulling up real time ADP so I can juxtapose this with where I'm at versus real time ADP.

6:12And if everybody, if you're not up to ADP fantasy, pros.com slash real ADP, get you there fast.

6:18Um, Alec Pierce is wide receiver 40. I am below consensus on him.

6:22I, he's at wide receiver 46 for me. I moved this down because I just don't know.

6:27When you look at the addition of Keenan Allen and into this passing attack, I think that there's an easy outcome where he plays the Michael Pittman jr.

6:35role in this offensive last year. And where he's playing a little more outside then.

6:40Yeah. Dude, he played 60%. I don't think that people understand that he Keenan Allen played 60% on the perimeter last year.

6:47And I'm not saying he's going to touch that number this year, but to the Alec Pierce point, I think with Alec

6:53Pierce coming off this injury, he could just be shoved back into the field stretching role and asking him to assume a new role in this offense.

7:02When he hasn't been there, he had, he still has not practiced people.

7:05So yeah, it's crazy. Like assuming this new role in the offense, that's great and grand.

7:10But when you're not there in the install for the offense, what are we talking about?

7:15So I'm avoiding Alec Pierce at his cost and drafts Keenan Allen.

7:19I put him at wide receiver 55. I dropped Josh Downs to wide receiver 56.

7:23So yes, I do have Keenan Allen above him because the way that I'm projecting this offense when it until Pierce is

7:30back and we don't know when that is going to be.

7:33I think it to wide receiver sets. You do see Keenan Allen and Josh Downs on the field.

7:39But once Pierce is back, I think we're going to see Josh Downs go back into this slot only part-time role that he was last year.

7:47That is the downside for him where he becomes Jaden Reed of India again.

7:51Right. And the upside is they run more 11 and he's rotating the outside in the slot with Keenan Allen.

7:57But like for me in this offense at cost in the passing game, give me Keenan Allen.

8:02If this is the same exact situation we talked about last year, Seth, where Keenan Allen signs late, his ADP isn't going

8:09to catch up and he's still freaking good at football.

8:12So Tyler Warren, I did bump him down a little bit because the injury, the Keenan Allen addition.

8:17How far are we talking? Just one or I think one spot.

8:21Like I'm still tight end for ride or die.

8:24That's right where I was last year. But okay, but the caveat of that is I put Sam Laporta above him.

8:30Now I got to put Sam Laporta back behind him because I don't know what to do with these damn injuries.

8:36Back to tight end for baby. Let's go. But I mean, let's go.

8:40So with how I'm approaching this, I don't know if that's consensus.

8:44I don't know if I'm crazy. You tell me, Seth, like where is everybody at?

8:49Where are you at on this situation? Like, am I just too high on Keenan Allen?

8:53But I do have stats that I can pull to back up my Keenan Allen love.

8:58No, I think you're right on pace, man. Like last year, we really saw him impact Ladd McConkie's production during the early part of the season.

9:06If I had to guess that this probably goes similar to that where maybe the Colts start fast.

9:12Keenan Allen is a fantasy difference maker for the first five weeks.

9:15And we're like, oh crap. We should have all drafted him some trade start going out.

9:20And if you trade Keenan, I don't mind drafting Keenan Allen, but I'm trying to trying to probably trade him after the

9:27first month or so of the season. If he starts hot just like a season ago.

9:32I'm right with you. Tyler Warren tight end for Josh Downs right now to me.

9:36I'm juggling between like wide receiver 59 and 60.

9:39Like I'm getting to a point now where it's like, am I putting Rashid Shaheed above him?

9:44Right. Am I putting, you know, Dijon Shribling's definitely above him for me now.

9:48So like Dante should be above him too. Okay.

9:51Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. Oh yeah.

9:54No, you're probably right. Actually with the, all the injuries going on.

9:58Ty Lemon not playing in camp so far. He's he, he have a Luther burden esque run out to his season that nobody wants to talk about.

10:06Um, but just to give Keenan Allen some love last year amongst 109 qualifying wide receivers, he was 14th overall in route win rate.

10:13He was 22nd and slot yards per route run.

10:16And as a perimeter wide receiver, Keenan Allen 18th best in route win rate.

10:20So he's just cause he's old doesn't mean he's dust.

10:23Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I appreciate that. And J Tao great question, man.

10:27And I, I, well, let's see, let's see what kind of year it is for Indianapolis players.

10:32I tried to avoid all of them, but Tyler Warren a year ago.

10:36Um, and it bit me not having JT early on, but we'll see what 2020 brings.

10:41Um, and a real quick reminder as well, that if you guys are enjoying the stream, please, uh, follow us, consider following us.

10:48So you don't miss the next year. I'm seeing a lot of first time streamers in here tonight, um, who are joining us for the first time live.

10:56So we really appreciate that. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're running on my man.

11:01It's a, it's like dark out today. So it's just like one of those, when I heard you say tonight, I'm like,

11:07grandpa, what time are you going to bed? Dude?

11:10It's like, it feels dark. It's been like dark out all day.

11:14Are you about to make dinner right now? Seth?

11:16No, not yet. I actually eat dinner. Like traditionally late.

11:19I probably won't eat dinner. I got like a late show tonight.

11:23So I probably won't eat dinner until like 10 or so, which I know isn't good for you.

11:29I've been trying to be better at that. That's sad.

11:32It's past Paul's bedtime. Okay. Yeah. Logger, Logger standouts first live show for him as well.

11:36Thank you so much, Logger. Great to see you here.

11:39We appreciate you joining us. Um, also shout out to a couple of these new friends here as well.

11:45Uh, Heiserton. We also have joining us a first time follower.

11:49Thank you so much for that. And age, I, as well, age, I hanging out with us right here.

11:54So let's go ahead and get to the next question.

11:57Starting with thought to miss prime saying trade at 20, 27 top.

12:01There he had to go. Pop the energy drink.

12:04Get it ready. It's a liquid. That's water, man.

12:06I'm already wired for sound already. Okay. Well, I'm glad to hear that.

12:10I'm glad to hear that. They didn't believe me.

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12:16I say, hi, come say hi to us. Um, they're fantastic, bro.

12:20They're like crack. I love it. I love it.

12:23Love it. Traded 20, 27, top four pick for Loveland in a one quarterback league.

12:27Is that something you're willing to do there? That's a high price.

12:31I like holding on to my, uh, picks as much as I can.

12:35He's an elite tight end. He's elite asset and dynasty.

12:38Um, that's the price. You're probably going to have to pay.

12:41I wouldn't, I would counter that with a 28 first and second.

12:45That's what I would do that with. Yeah. I like that top top five pick in 27.

12:50I would just give your first two picks in 28 to try to give Loveland count, send out the counter and see what happens.

12:57Yeah. Cause what happens if that, that pick turns into Jeremiah Smith, you're going to feel real dumb, even though Loveland's a stud, right?

13:05So overall, but yes, to your, but to your point, if it's the one Oh one, you're going to feel like an idiot.

13:12So yes. Right. Yeah. Yep. Uh, we also got some, uh, additional followers like to shout out as well.

13:17Hey, who just followed us as outdoor and Dover block.

13:20Uh, we also have T prec. Appreciate that. T prec.

13:23Um, and awesome. Dad just restubbed for eight months straight as tier one.

13:27The queen's not going to be happy with you.

13:30Dev just saying. Devira Devira 11 as well. A little number 11 action like that.

13:35Um, hanging out with us. Let's see. We got Frankie love in a 16 man league.

13:39That's a chop league. How would you approach drafting that?

13:42I just can't finish last each week. Pick players that are going to play early.

13:47That's like my thing. Don't, don't invite injuries onto your team in this one for me, Derek.

13:52What about you? Again, going back to, this is where you get into the conversation of stripling versus like a Jacoby.

13:59Myers. Like you need the volume and you need the playing time.

14:02Like the upside. Yep. Matters, but you don't sacrifice the upside and stuff like that for guys where, you know, they're going

14:09to be getting targets and volume and things like that.

14:12You're, you're not so much. Yes. You care about being near the top of the league, but it's really more about not being at the bottom.

14:20So. Yes, completely agree. Thank you so much for that.

14:23Frankie James cook for Javante Williams, Brenton strange 2027 first and second in dynasty.

14:27It's his 10 man super flex. So again, that's James cook going for Javante Williams, Brenton strange a 2027 first and second.

14:34I think I want, I think I want, I think I want the Javante side.

14:38Yeah. Is he the Javante side? Like dude, the first and second and 27 should get you James cook just in general.

14:45All the rest of that sauce on top is way too much.

14:49Now in, in, in defense here, like Dre, if you're getting the Javante side auto accept, and you just say, thank you.

14:55You just, you just say, thank you. Yep. A hundred percent.

14:59Agree with you there. TCB checking in saying my league is going from 10 to eight people and from one flex to two.

15:05What is the biggest thing that should change in my draft approach?

15:09Half PPR auction draft. Derek, I would say it's just spending up for those ones positions.

15:14That's yeah. I think those becomes every week, bro.

15:17We're go ahead. I'm sorry. We're in concert. No ones at once.

15:20He positions, but also like you can't fall too far behind.

15:24Like I'm not going zero RB or I'm not going, you know, robust running back where I'm getting behind it receiver.

15:30Like I need a top eight to 10 guy every single position.

15:34Yeah. I think the big thing is, and the thing that I continually hammer on these smaller leagues TCB is like, sure.

15:40You could pay up for the Josh Allen's and stuff like that.

15:44For me, I think the edge is picking the quarterback.

15:47So your quarterback route to take for me, if they're available and what have you is accessing elite upside at the onesie

15:54positions, but you're not paying for top tier stuff.

15:56So like drafting a Colston Loveland instead of a Brock Bowers drafting a Jalen hurts instead of a Josh Allen.

16:02Honestly, for me, if I was in one of those consolidated leagues, it would be draft Jalen hurts and draft Malik Willis

16:09that that that would be my quarterback room rushing rushing rushing rushing rushing.

16:13Love it. We got bam, bam, Branson checking in same boys.

16:16Just wanted to say Jalen hurts top three quarterback.

16:19And preach baby. You came to the right spot.

16:22This is a safe space. Jalen hurts my QB three this year.

16:26How safe is it though? Because he's also saying and Seth congrats on finding out that it snows year round at PSU hashtag.

16:32We are Derek. You've been seeing any of the headlines coming out of state colleges.

16:37I've seen some things and some of those mug shots are very interesting.

16:41I think we threw it in the, in the FP slack.

16:44Uh, Seth, is there a warrant out for your arrest that I'm not aware of, sir?

16:49No, thankfully I did not go to Penn state.

16:52I did work there, but that was about, you know, Nick name.

16:56What was the Pablo pledge scavar or something like that.

16:59Plex cabar. It's so good. Oh man. It needs to be on a t-shirt, man.

17:03It's so good. Oh, it's on. I've already seen.

17:06There are t-shirts running around right now. With his face and just above him.

17:10We are. We are. We are Pablo. God, man.

17:13Oh, check it out if you don't know already.

17:16If you don't know, you need to know. Some stupid kids throwing away the rest of their lives.

17:21We do not condone that behavior. It's sad, but man, it's that happens every day.

17:26People making stupid choices. Including stupid choices. Here could be one from our friend, Eron Jacobs and Watson or flowers and Montgomery.

17:32I'm going to take this as a redraft question, but Aaron, let me know if this is dynasty by chance, but if

17:39you're in a redraft, Derek, what would you, what would you roll here with Jacobs and Watson?

17:44Do you want the Packers or do you want flowers and Monty?

17:48I want. So redraft wise, I easily the flowers side, um, from a dynasty perspective.

17:52Um, from the dynasty perspective, I'm, I'm still on flowers and Montgomery here.

17:56Yeah. I just, dude, I'm worried about Jacobs of the last two years.

18:00Like he's walking into this year with an MCL issue.

18:03And last year he had injuries. He was a shell of himself down the back.

18:08I think the volume is, is starting to pile up.

18:11Like I think David Montgomery has more tread left on the tires than freaking Josh Jacobs at this point.

18:16But again, maybe I'm crazy. I don't think that's a crazy take.

18:20Like if, if everything was fair and Jacobs, we knew it was a hundred percent healthy and was a hundred percent not getting suspended.

18:27I think this is a closer conversation. That being said, I don't want to be that tied to the Packers.

18:33And like I do, I do have right now Jacobs above flowers, but I know I'm like in the minority of that.

18:40And, and Monty, I do have above Watson. So I'm, I'm cool with that.

18:44Um, what do you think about this nickname here from Bam Bam snow Paterno?

18:49Oh, that's pretty good dude. Um, but dude, like, yeah, like Jacobs, does everybody realize?

18:53Yeah, sure. He's going into his age 28 season.

18:56He's not a young 28 though. He's got 1800 plus carries on that body.

19:00It's not good, man. It's not good. What are your thoughts on Coker and Carolina Derek?

19:05We have here from a welly woo because I mean, you've kind of been on this.

19:10Yeah. You've been kind of on, on this train the entire time for Jalen Coker.

19:14It's really now just getting popular to being drafting him.

19:17But if I'm looking for a guy who can just give me a solid floor in the double digit rounds for PPR leagues.

19:24Like I am clicking the button on Jalen Coker more and more as the off season progresses.

19:29See Bam Bam knows throw it in the chat.

19:32You're talking to the leader of the coke head super train.

19:36Yes, I, and, and this is not me just like toot my own horn.

19:40Like there are tweets out there for me about Jalen Coker before he didn't go before he got drafted as a UDFA at a Holy Cross.

19:48I love the kid that the tape tells you all.

19:51I think Coker is really a massive value. Uh, and I have Bryce young concerns, but those Bryce young concerns are not

19:57being echoed in 10 McMillan's ADP, but we have this grand Canyon of ADP difference between Ted Rowe McMillan and Jalen Coker.

20:04And it's like, or the, the clear two leaders of the passing attack.

20:08Yeah. You look at weeks 13 through 19 Jalen Coker actually outproduced Ted on basically every per route metric.

20:14And even if you take the playoff game out, it is much closer than anybody wants to realize, but you pay a

20:20wide receiver to price tag for Ted McMillan and you pay a wide receiver five or six price tag for Jalen Coker.

20:27So at cost, give me Coker all day long.

20:30And I I'm drafting him everywhere. Why not both though?

20:33Because like, I feel like you want to invest that much in a Bryce young offense.

20:38I, Ted's playing the slot a lot more. So yeah, I do.

20:41I feel like, cause I feel like that just gives him the volume was kind of the issue.

20:47Like catchable targets was kind of the issue. I feel like you move him in, get him a little closer to Bryce young.

20:54That kind of makes me happier to, to invest with that.

20:57But maybe where do you add on Ted right now?

21:00I've, I've been wide receiver, I think at 11 or 12.

21:03So I'm, I'm right there. Oh, good Lord. I don't have him anywhere close.

21:08I have my, for real. Yes, dude. I have my, as a wide receiver three.

21:12Uh, I'm worried about the volume. I'm, I'm worried about the volume, dude.

21:16Like it's crazy. It really, it's that crazy. So you think that he has the upside to be a wide receiver one

21:23and fantasy this year with tied to Bryce young on an offense.

21:26They do not want to throw the ball. Like they don't dude.

21:30Like, yeah, but they have Jonathan Brooks who they can't overload and Chuba Hubbard who can't stay healthy.

21:36Like they don't really have a choice. Plus like, I don't believe the defense is that elite that they're going to be,

21:42you know, having positive game scripts, I think is where I stand on it.

21:46Okay. So let me, let me ask you, uh, if you still feel this way after I spit this at you.

21:53So weeks 13 through 18 Bryce young surpassed 35 passing attempts once he only had two games with more than 225 passing yards.

22:00And he directed an offense that was fifth in neutral rushing rate.

22:03Hmm. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'll give you, I'll give you that, but I will say out of like, if there's 30

22:10targets a game, I think that's going to have just a monster target share, dude.

22:15Like I think it's going to be very concentrated.

22:17I think they made that clear with the investment in Coker too.

22:21You don't have to, you don't have to sell me on Ted.

22:25I love Ted, the talent. I just hate the ADP on him.

22:28It has nothing to do with his talent. This is a Bryce young and a passing volume conversation.

22:34Cause I was, you, you know, both of us were talking about that at nauseam and everybody's like, well, Ted doesn't watch film.

22:41Well, Ted's kind of slow. And I was like, he's still the wide receiver one.

22:45And he's still really freaking good. Y'all need to just shut up.

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24:49Good times will be had to use the number five on that graph.

24:52I don't know these days with Jane Daniels and everybody and anybody, but I digress.

24:57You know, that's crazy behavior. It is like all dude.

25:00It is really wild. Like these are honestly like good.

25:03These are the tight. And I don't think it's Jane Daniels because you hear Jane Daniels.

25:08He's a very calm. I think it's like those are the toxic people you don't need in your life just causing drama.

25:15Like you cut those people out of your life, right?

25:18Like that's the crazy thing about like, I don't want to say it, but like I'm worried about Jane Daniels long term

25:24in this league for doing stuff like that. And then like he can't and he's a little bit of a fragile guy who's never learned to slide properly.

25:33So I don't know, man. I feel like that's all being pushed by his mom.

25:37I understand the respect narrative of like hit like them not using Joe Burrow's number.

25:42Let's let's also talk about what Joe Burrow did at LSU real quick winning a national title.

25:47Yes. Having honestly quarterbacking you arguably the best college football team in the history of college football is much different than you

25:54having a Heisman year and sitting out a bowl game.

25:57So if we're going to talk about facts and stats here, let's at least keep it 100.

26:02And I've been a GD five truther believer. I love the kid.

26:06But also, let's not go the CJ Stroud route and talk about yourself and being an elite quarterback before you arrive to that.

26:12Let's let's also be honest about that. There is a lot of CJ Stroudness to some of this stuff.

26:18Oh, 100 percent. Agreed with you there, man. It I mean, it was a good season.

26:23You got to be at least nine and three or better usually to be in the Heisman discussion.

26:29But it was not, you know, LSU was not making a run that year towards a natty.

26:34So they played in some kind of like garbage bowl that year, which was like the pop tart bowl, maybe or something again.

26:41I there you go. You said enough. Yeah, it might have been the waste management.

26:45I mean, whatever. It could have been the pop tart bowls.

26:49Cool. You ever see that they have the life size pop mascots.

26:52That's like, you know, that's a good time independence bowl in Shreveport, Louisiana, and it doesn't matter.

26:57It's whatever. I want to go to a bowl game.

27:00Never been to one. Here's Bilbo T Baggins, 22 saying sup fellas, 12 team PPR.

27:05I have the fourth pick. I'm leaning ASB. Is that is that crazy to go Monra for overall Derek?

27:11It's a little rich, but I don't I don't think it's crazy if that's a guy crazy.

27:16But at the fourth overall pick, we're assuming we're assuming Bajon and Gibbs go.

27:20So Chase. So you take an Amonra over Puka.

27:23That's really just what that says. Is Bill over Chaser Puka or JSN like yeah, like if Chase is there, you're taking chase.

27:30But if Puka is there, I get the hesitance.

27:33I'm still taking the swing with Puka, dude. Like I think Puka has upside to be the first wide receiver to ever crest 26 PPR points per game.

27:41Like going and I went all the way back to 2013.

27:44Like I don't think everybody realizes that when he was like a full time player.

27:49So if you take out like I think it was a game he played only half of.

27:54If you take that out, he averaged 24.7 PPR points per game.

27:58And if you just flip the receiving touchdowns last year, like say he got the 14 and Adams got the 10.

28:04He would have had 26 points per game. And that's not like I'm not making up like like insane hoops to jump in math streets to get there.

28:13Like that's a it's a simple case. He could break fantasy this year.

28:16So give me that upside along with the craziness and everything.

28:20And dude is like a pigeon and he can't see glass doors.

28:23You know, I understand if he's gone though. Would you take chase?

28:27Do you think? Yeah. Over over a Mon Ross?

28:30Yeah, I would take chase or Puka like Aminra.

28:33Now and I love Aminra this year. Um, it's one of the reasons I love the 107 or 108 because a lot

28:39of times you're getting Aminra at that pick. Either Aminra or James Cook, but like at the 104 now I'm still going with chase or Puka there.

28:47Okay. Okay, but not crazy if that's you know, if that's your cup of tea, but not for us.

28:53Bill Botee a R18 or the check question saying what's up fellas?

28:57Any changes in your rankings for the RBs at the one to turn from the 12 cook Brown also, uh, who's your

29:03go-to if cook goes before 12 Derek? I think I'm higher than consensus, but like I like O'Meary and Hampton on the

29:10turn and I'll kind of stand by that. He's someone I have right there.

29:14Saquon Barkley is in that same range. Ashen Genty and Devon H and that's my tier.

29:19That's my four in that order for me. How do you see that that group of running backs if cook is gone?

29:26Chase Brown. I'm taking Chase Brown round one. If it's not there over all those guys, I've got Chase Brown.

29:32I've got Chase Brown at RB five. I love Chase Brown this year.

29:36Um, chase Brown of cook is gone. Then I'm taking Chase Brown, but definitely cook is there that I'm pressing the button on him.

29:43My tier for those round two running backs. I'm a little bit more worried about Hampton than you are, but I will concede the upside is definitively there.

29:52Uh, I would lean with Kenneth Walker, uh, or Derek Henry over him.

29:56Um, okay. A chance still in the conversation too.

29:58So any one of those guys, but I do have them above.

30:02Um, we don't have a Mario and Hampton right now.

30:05Um, I've got Kenneth Walker above him. Chase Brown above him.

30:08I've got Hampton, uh, nestled up like right next to Devon.

30:12A chance. Ashen Genty, Derek Henry. So anyway, you want to go in that tier.

30:16I'm fine with. Okay. Uh, 14 man pick eight here from Frankie love who she target in the first and second round.

30:23You laid it out. You like a Mon Ra or James cook kind of in that eight, eight tier in the first round.

30:30What about the second round? Second round. I'm looking at 14 man.

30:33I think you're looking at a, you're kind of getting into a little bit of a third round there too.

30:39In the second round. You're yeah. You're like a 20, you're like a 22 overall or so is where you're, you're sitting there.

30:46Kenneth Walker, Chris Alave, Devon H and Hampton. If they're not there, uh, Javante Williams, I'm willing to pull up the board.

30:53And he is gone because Williams is going too late, dude.

30:56Like I, I'm sorry. People are ridiculous. I am not worried about Jaden blue.

31:01I at all. None. Oh yeah. I'm not, I'm not pushing off that high, but I, yeah, I'm not worried about blue either.

31:08Um, are you, are you considering I'll throw in there too.

31:11Bowers is Bowers in that range for you. Bowers or McBride.

31:14Bowers is fine. But the problem that I have in a 14 man, I'm not, you have to give concessions in a 14 man.

31:22Yeah. My concessions in a deeper league or quarterback and tight end.

31:25I'm, I, I will build two and three people rooms in that kind of stuff.

31:30It, cause you have to give up somewhere. So in that I'm, I'm devaluing the onesie positions and I'll play matchups and

31:36I'll go late quarterback and late tight end. Yep.

31:39So it's really running back some wide receivers. I'm not paying up for tight end and a deeper league.

31:45I'm just not doing it. Okay. Here's a great question from Miranda checking in saying, uh, I have the third pick in

31:52a super flex league and I cannot decide to take Josh Allen or CMC or JT.

31:56I mean, that's a clear Josh Allen to me.

31:59Josh Allen. I don't want to hear Josh Allen.

32:02Yeah. I think it's, you know, I think it's just a little too cute.

32:06If you go with one of those running backs, like I, I imagine Drake may might be off the board if this

32:13is the case too, cause it might've gone the two running backs or Puka.

32:17Um, but I consider an elite, I would consider an elite wide receiver at the third pick.

32:22If you really didn't want to go quarterback over CMC and JT, like I'm not Len Puka or JSN or Jamar chase

32:29go before I would consider CMC or JT. It's Josh Allen.

32:32For me, you're looking at if you're pick three, one of the John Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, or Josh Allen's going to be there for you.

32:40So take whoever's there. Fantasy football is, uh, just followed us here.

32:43We appreciate that. And Miranda, thank you so much for, uh, resubbing for one month at the, uh, tier one for a two month streak.

32:51Thanks so much for that, Miranda. We really appreciate it.

32:54Full sand checking in as well saying 12 man full PPR.

32:57I'm having a hard time passing a Barkley or Walker for Jenty.

33:01Uh, I hesitate as a Raiders fan that Kubiak is going to put Washington in a position where he can take from Jenty.

33:08That's a very fair, um, argument here, Derek, Mike Washington, you know, this is a big bruising running back.

33:14Who's also lightning quick, had a huge performance out there in Indianapolis at the combine.

33:18I think we were all kind of disappointing with the landing spot of the Raiders.

33:23So how do you feel about potentially taking Barkley or Walker over the former Boise State Bronco?

33:28I will take Walker over him 10 times out of 10.

33:31I'm not taking Barkley over Jenty. I, I, I do not have Barkley ranked that high.

33:36Uh, is it more of just a conversation about the offense and the offensive line, Derek?

33:41Or is it more like you think Saquon could be like fading in his, you know, peak of his powers?

33:47I think Saquon, Saquon, the archetype of back that he is, is people.

33:51I love how people pick and choose their narratives.

33:54Like they talk about Kenneth Walker, like his success rate, and he's not a dependable player and he's always trying to hit home runs.

34:01And that's such a detriment to Kenneth Walker. I hate to break it to everybody, but Saquon Barkley is the exact same

34:08type of running back, but nobody talks about it.

34:10Like, yeah, that's fair. He is, he is incredibly talented, but a lot of what makes Saquon special is getting him into the second level of a defense.

34:19And when he's able to carve them up and break those big runs, the down to down stuff, like he literally might

34:26go like two yards, one yard minus three minus two, two yards, one yard breaks a 30 yard run.

34:31And then the stat line looks really nice, but that's a lot of what Saquon's game is.

34:36So like, I just have worries about a Philadelphia offensive line that has gotten old and hurt pretty fast.

34:42Hmm. Yeah. Okay. That's very, very fair. Um, I understand the question though, from full sending like I am shading towards Barkley

34:49right now, but they're all in a similar tier for me.

34:52So I don't blame you for going one way or the other right there.

34:56Full send, um, cap RV checking in thoughts on Kyron Williams for the season and thoughts on tank Dell with Higgins out

35:03for the year tanks kind of been on my radar.

35:06Derek is like a last round type of player.

35:09I think he's still in that conversation. I think you'll get a little more interest throughout your league now because of the Higgins injury.

35:16So thoughts on him and then thoughts on, are you taking a shot at Kyron Williams at current cost?

35:22I'll drive Kyron. I've, I've kind of always been characterized as a Kyron hater.

35:26It's, it's not that I hate Kyron. It's just, I like it when running backs are more efficient with their touches and

35:33work and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. And so Kyron is fine where he goes.

35:38I think he's appropriately priced. Like you're not going to hear me like, like slamming him or I'm not going to come

35:44on here and be like, Oh, Blake Corum, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

35:49Kyron has proven year after year after year, he's going to retain the role at this point outside of injury.

35:55Nothing is changing that. So Kyron is still going to be like a top 15 back flirting.

36:00I think it could dip a little bit. I don't think it will ever get to a 50 50, but is there

36:06a chance that the Rams are like, Hey, this is a 20 game season for us.

36:11Cause we have one goal, one goal only to use, you know, to get to the super bowl.

36:17And maybe they use Kyron a little bit less and, and just lean on Corum.

36:21That you're literally describing exactly what happened last year.

36:24And Kyron was still perfectly fine. So do you think there's a world where Corum could get to 200 touches just because

36:31their defense will also be better and they'll be running a little bit like that's a hot take.

36:36That was what we did a hot takes episode.

36:39Here recently. And that was one of my hot takes is that Corum goes for 200 plus carries, but it was spicy.

36:46But the problem with that is then you talk about to get there.

36:49It's not just the positive game script for him to get there.

36:53They have to be a pace up team and the play volume too, because like when we get into these things of,

37:00Oh, this guy is going to get this or this hundred targets, this many carries.

37:04You have to have the play volume. It's not just the offensive design.

37:08If they're a slow offense or they don't hit the play play volume mark, there's no, there's not a mathematical like possibility

37:15if everybody stays healthy for him to get there.

37:18So it's possible. I just don't think they're going to be a pace up offense enough.

37:23Now with the tank Dell stuff, I'm hopeful for tank Dell, but dude, it's like we still got to see him practice

37:29in full and be out there on a full time basis.

37:33That still hasn't happened yet. So I'm going to take the last round flyer on jail and all before I am tank

37:39Dell right now, if they're both on the board, but am I against anybody drafting tank Dell, especially in deeper league formats?

37:46No, it's fine. Awesome. Awesome. Glad to hear that.

37:49And here we got you're on saying, would you draft your dairy and price cicada up three stunk in a timeshare Derek?

37:55Like I was, I think aggressively drafting dairy and price, but I also liked kind of the discount on Charbonnet.

38:01I've brought them a little bit closer together in my ranking.

38:05I think it's because of the positive reports, but I've gone from a top 20 back on price to closer to a low end RB two.

38:13I'm fine with where he's going. I wouldn't call him like a, a draft target of mine, but he's certainly not an avoid either.

38:20Just that kind of feels appropriately priced. I agree with you right now in real time, ADP fantasy pros.com slash really ADP is RB 26 61st overall.

38:28I think I'm right in line with that. Yeah.

38:31I've got your Darian price, uh, RB 26. I okay.

38:34So the, the, the worry for Jadarian price is he's Kenneth Walker of last year.

38:38He gets no red zone work. He's the in between the twenties guy.

38:42Yeah. He gets a lot of passing work. He gets crushed on touchdowns.

38:46We've already seen that like unfold and that's priced into Jadarian prices ADP right now.

38:51But the upside is this coaching staff inherited Zach Charbonnet and Kenneth Walker.

38:55This last NFL draft, they got to go out and hand pick their guy.

38:59What if he's Kenneth Walker? They use their first pick on him.

39:03I know. Like what if he's Kenneth Walker, but he gets the red zone usage.

39:07Yeah. Like that is also in the range of outcomes.

39:10Oh yeah. Like that can happen. It's a good point.

39:13Yeah. Yeah. That's why I honestly think we're kind of drafting price like a little bit closer to his floor.

39:19Yes. Yeah. So I'm, I'm super, I'm super cool with price.

39:23I think it's a, but it's a great question.

39:25Um, Iran and I don't mind the shot on sharps either with where he's going in drafts, just in case, in case

39:32sharps does get all the goal line again, you know, he's a weekly flex then.

39:36Um, a Katie and splice. Great question here, Derek.

39:39And I really want to get your insight on this.

39:42You were once a saints fan, you relieved your saints fandom and you have come your back.

39:47And where should I invest in new Orleans outside of Chris Olave, Travis, TN and Chuck, if at all, I want to

39:54start with like ETN because of the Camara injury that he's going to be out at least a month.

40:00Have you raised your rankings on ETN or HN, whatever we're freaking calling them now.

40:04Oh, and is there anywhere else that you're taking a shot in redraft?

40:08I knew you liked dealt, but Jawan Johnson does seem to still be the tight end one.

40:13So just overall opinions here on new Orleans skill players.

40:16So let me give everybody first to run through a French and Cajun pronunciations.

40:21It's not ETN. It's not a Chan. It's a Chan.

40:24If you combine both of those, you just said a Chan.

40:27No, I said a Chan. E. E. E. E.

40:30E. So I'm going to school people on a little bit of Kate here that so that that is real.

40:36So it's not ETN. It's not a Chan. If you lump them together, that's what it is.

40:41But anyway, it's each. And so I did. I did bump up Travis H.

40:45And to RB 18 with the news of Camara, because the thing about it is, dude, is this the and I haven't gotten confirmation chat.

40:53Tell me if I if you've seen this and I'm wrong here.

40:56Is this the same MCL issue he had from last year on the same knee?

41:01If that is the case, he's going to be out longer than a freaking month.

41:06Like a month is conservative. So I have bumped Travis E.

41:09Chan up to RB 18 in that, that DeAndre Swift, David Montgomery, Kyron Williams type of tier above Jeremiah Love, Josh Jacobs,

41:16Basial Toot and that whole other split backfield. We don't know what to do with these guys.

41:21I think he's going to be the workhorse. And I think that with Kamara out, Kendrick Miller can't stay healthy.

41:27See Devin Neal, I liked him as a prospect, but he really was a nothing burger for them.

41:32I'm not worried about anybody taking work away from him.

41:35He could be inefficient all he wants to be.

41:38And I still think he's going to be a strong RB2 now with Kamara dealing with this because dude, it just, he's not a young running back.

41:46He's already had any issues just going back to last year.

41:50If this persists, like Kamara might miss the whole season or never be a hundred percent.

41:54So you could be giving, getting Travis E. Chan at his floor and he could just go back to being what he

42:01was with the Jaguars and being like a borderline RB1.

42:04And you're investing in it. And what I project to be a really freaking good offense.

42:09Um, great point with the Jordan Tyson news. I bumped Chris Alave up to wide receiver seven.

42:14Everybody was like, Oh my gosh. But to everybody, do you not realize that Chris Alave was the wide receiver seven in fantasy points per game last year?

42:23So this ranking scene, there's a health risk though, right?

42:26There's a health risk. There's a health risk. Have it.

42:29Okay. To that point though, have we not learned in the last two weeks of training camp, there's a health risk for everybody playing the sport of football.

42:37We like to pick and choose that narrative when it suits us to knock down a player.

42:42But the reality is any of these guys can get hurt on any play, any practice, anytime.

42:47That reality is there. Chris Alave also last year was healthy.

42:51I'm not worried about it. Right? So I'm going to draft Chris Alave with confidence.

42:55I did bump up a Juwan Johnson with the Jordan Tyson stuff.

42:59Juwan Johnson is my tight end 14. But again, if you're going to tell me at his cost, I think he is a wonderful bet.

43:06And somebody, the perfect tight end strategy, if you're waiting on tight end draft Juwan Johnson or Dallas Goddard and George Kittle

43:13late pick one of those other guys and George Kittle, you're getting a mix of floor, probably low in tight end one

43:20production and upside with those late selections. And I saw Katie and throw this in the chat.

43:25I'm going to add this on to Bryce Lance is the wide receiver to assuming we do not get Jordan Tyson this year.

43:32And I think that that is a decent assumption to make because at this point, this is not a short term thing.

43:39Dude was hurt in the pre-draft process. He was hurt in rookie camp.

43:43He got hurt again in training camp. Yeah, this is FedEx.

43:46Like shove Jordan Tyson into a giant FedEx box box and send him to freaking see the doctor that that consulted with

43:53Christian Watson and Marshawn Lloyd, because this is all compensatory issue stuff over years and years and years of knee injuries, hamstring injuries and stuff like that.

44:01I don't know if we see the Saints are not going to be aggressive with Jordan Tyson.

44:06If they have the type of season, I think they can have this year.

44:10They are going to be slow with ramping up Jordan Tyson, because if they're winning games, they're looking at Jordan Tyson could

44:17be the stretch run bump of basically us trading for a wide receiver, but we don't have to make a trade down the back half of the season.

44:25So right now, I think it is very telling that Bryce Lance got put in bubble wrap for preseason week one with

44:32all of the rest of the starters. And yes, people came out and they said, oh, he was banged up in a scrimmage.

44:39If you want to bubble wrap a rookie, but you don't want everybody to know you bubble wrap the rookie so he

44:46doesn't go out there, but he's being looked at as a clear starter.

44:50What are you going to say to the media?

44:52What are you going to say? Because he didn't miss any practice time this week.

44:57He was immediately right back out there and routing dudes up and looking awesome.

45:01Again, this is my PSA for everybody to draft Bryce Lance with the last pick of your drafts.

45:06Like if it's Bryce Lance and Tank Dale are on the board, I'm taking Bryce Lance 10 times out of 10.

45:13Okay. All right. You drafting Jordan Tyson at all or no?

45:16No, I'm avoiding him like the plague. No. Okay.

45:19Sounds good. We're going to get some rapid fire action.

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46:01That's got to be like the greatest vanity URL all time.

46:04FantasyPros.com slash chat. That's how easy we make it, Derek.

46:07I know. And it's slash real ADP. We're trying to make it easy for people here.

46:12Yeah. That's what we do, baby. I'm going to guess Mike Mayer did not come up with that one.

46:18That seems a little above his pay grade if you ask me.

46:22Yeah. Well, you know, Mayer only has content whenever it suits him at these days.

46:26So we should. Yeah. How about it? Let's go to some rapid fire here.

46:30Okadoka wants to know, in a league where you can only keep someone in drafted in rounds 12 to 16, we call

46:37these sleeper keeper leagues, already keeping Olave as my 16th rounder.

46:40Is Chris Rodriguez Jr. worth keeping as my 15th rounder, knowing that I would lose an opportunity to draft someone where I can keep next year?

46:48Touchdowns worth extra in leagues. I'm not keeping Chris Rodriguez for any type of draft equity.

46:53No, it's not worth it. I'm not keeping him period.

46:56Nope. Yeah. Yep. Easy enough. Just not enough upside, right?

46:59Can you use one man to cover Jacoby Lane hype?

47:02To be clear, I've been on him since April right after the draft when I asked one of the pros if he

47:09could be a dollar store Mike Evans for Dynasty and they thought I was crazy, but he just went first round in one of my rookie drafts.

47:17First round is too high for Jacoby Lane. Like you're drinking all of the hype Kool-Aid.

47:22That is absolutely wild. Um, I like playing as a prospect.

47:25We talked about him on the NFL draft. Same.

47:28My comp for him was Kenny Galladay. Like I thought he was a clasher type, more of a downfield guy.

47:34I had questions about could he develop into a high volume wide receiver?

47:38Right. But also, let's also take this with a grain of salt.

47:42Like some of the Baltimore beat reports are absolutely just insane.

47:45The best prospect camp I've seen and do do do do.

47:48Like, come on, dude. Like I get you got it.

47:51I get you got to get clicks, but that's also some wildness.

47:55Like I like Lane. I think that he could have a solid rookie season.

47:59I'm still not going. I'm not drafting him in the first round of a rookie draft.

48:04That's just crazy. Same. Um, here's a question from Full Send.

48:0712 man full PPR. Has it taken Loveland in the third or fourth round?

48:12Such great wide receiver options, especially if I'm looking to take two running backs in the first round.

48:17Yeah. If you go to running backs in the first round, you can, you cannot go Loveland.

48:22You need to like your next three to four picks after that have to be wide receiver.

48:27So that is the caveat with take it at least in a 12 team league.

48:32That's how I feel. I don't want to go into the fourth round, having one wide receiver going to the fifth round, having one wide receiver.

48:40And if I took them in the third, I can't do it.

48:43I think you can take Loveland in the third, if you go RB, RB, but also this, I'm going to give this to the caveat though, Seth.

48:52You need to look at where do you sit on that tier of wide receivers?

48:56Do you like a lot of guys there? Do you think there's a lot of value?

49:01I think there's a lot of value and I think you can play catch up at wide receiver in rounds four through six.

49:08Not everybody views it that way. So it depends on what wide receivers do you like?

49:13I'm not against going Loveland after taking two running backs, but it depends on how the draft is going.

49:19What do you think about that tier of wide receivers, their floors and upside?

49:23Like I'm above consensus on guys like Parker Washington.

49:26I freaking love Christian Watson. I love Jalen Waddle.

49:28So there's a lot, Terry McLaurin, there's a lot of guys in that range that I love.

49:33So I'm comfortable doing that, but that's not the same case for everybody.

49:37So I could see it both ways. Okay. Here's one from Zaytron.

49:41Would you keep T Higgins or neighbors? This is clearly neighbors for me.

49:45Yeah. They're not close. Okay. Easy neighbors. Yep. Aaron in his draft, his options will be more Evans Watson to in, or I could take a top quarterback.

49:53Should I take the quarterback? I mean, I kind of like Christian Watson out of all those players personally, but I guess

50:00it just depends what your team looks like before you get there.

50:04Like if you're loaded at wide receiver and someone really like, I mean, if Josh Allen or something falls in, which they

50:10probably won't to this range, then I would consider.

50:13But aside from that, like I do like punting quarterback for the most part.

50:17I like all three of those wide receivers and I love that everybody's now coming around to DJ more after calling him

50:24wash off all off season after one preseason game.

50:27As the world turns my friend, as the world turns the big dance lad waddle or JMO 10 team half PPR.

50:33I like all these three wide receivers waddles the highest and okay.

50:37Yep. Waddle not close. I have Waddle as a wide receiver.

50:40One of my rankings. Woo. All right. All right.

50:43I mean, I'm high on him. I think I am about like 16 right now.

50:47So, um, very, and I also really like JMO this year.

50:51He might be my all in pick. I I'm, I'm all the way bought in, but that being said, you know, where you can get them.

50:59I would take Waddle first with CMC replaying 2024.

51:01Which running back is his handcuffed, Derek? Who the hell knows?

51:05Jordan James is back after, after popping a rib.

51:07I think you're looking at between Jordan James and Caelan black talent wise.

51:11The guy that I would, I would, I'm not in on Jordan James at all.

51:16I would take Caelan black or I would just not even touch that backfield behind CMC.

51:21Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. I don't see it being like a strong arm one person.

51:25I see it being more of committee if CMC were to go down.

51:29What do you guys think of Malik Washington and Jalen Naylor this year?

51:33Like they're not on my draft board personally. I'm like, you know me, I'm taking, I'm taking best if I'm taking anyone

51:40out of that offense and like, just give me the shot on Caelan with Douglas being something over Malik.

51:46Like I know I'll take Bryce Lance over both those guys.

51:49I'll take Keenan Allen. I'll take other guys. Like I, I just think we've seen a longer sample size of both of those guys being okay.

51:57NFL players, but not high end target earners. I'm not, I, I, I, Naylor if you got to pick between one of

52:03them, but I really don't want to draft either.

52:06See, I would almost go the, I almost think like Malik's at least going to give you maybe some PPR floor every week.

52:13See, and I think, I think they're talented rookies.

52:16Like once, if Kevin Coleman gets on the field, he's going to shove Malik into, into nothingness.

52:21Caleb Douglas, you can say the same thing. Chris Bell, who's already practicing.

52:25He can say the same thing. So I think Malik Washington is a placeholder.

52:29So. Okay. Okay. Um, here we got James saying thoughts on my draft in the next message.

52:34He's in a one quarterback, two wide receiver, two running back, two flex and one kicker league.

52:40And of course a tight end as well. I'm looking for your team.

52:43Oh, there we go. Okay. Here we go. We got Allen and Gibbs, ETN, Jalen Warren, JCM, Rashad White, Bowers, Pitts, Luther

52:50Burden, Roma, Dunze, McLaurin, Coker, Abuka, Godwin, T-Law, Dicker.

52:53Yeah. I like it. I'm with it. This is, it's a good team.

52:57Is it super? Yeah. Yeah. This is pretty, pretty nice.

53:00Actually. What are you? Metal James? Like, why'd you take T-Law after you drafted Josh Allen?

53:05Or was that a keeper or something? Like I wouldn't have taken a second quarterback if I had Josh Allen, but you know, it depends.

53:12Yeah. That is. That's one. It is a little.

53:15Okay. I mean, the team is still freaking awesome, man.

53:18So kudos. Um, A. Yeah. I know Metal James plays in a lot of eight team leagues.

53:23Let us know if that's one of those eight teams.

53:26He says one QB, just wanted a backup. I get it.

53:30I mean, but I think where you're drafting Josh Allen, you draft like you're right.

53:34You don't draft for an injury. Yeah. And like you draft like he's going to stay healthy because that's the cost you're paying in a draft.

53:42If he gets hurt, you're screwed anyway. Oh, it's an eight teamer.

53:46Got it. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

53:48That's what I thought. Then that's fine. Yes, I get it.

53:52I'm more on taking a high end backup there.

53:54Again, winning for the onesie positions. Slatatui with his next comment saying, uh, Ratatui is great movie, by the way.

54:00Um, any, any tips for a dynasty startup draft, Derek?

54:03What do you have here for Slat? For me, it's like, I'm not afraid to trade and move around the board.

54:10And like, I like the productive struggle personally the best.

54:13I want to target young guys. I want the old heads.

54:16So if Slat's asking us for tips, I'm guessing you're more new to dynasty.

54:20So a lot of things like you need to be using the dry, the dynasty trade value chart and stuff.

54:27The hardest part about anybody getting into dynasty new is trading during a draft because if you're not familiar with it, you

54:33can get railroaded really quickly and make some really bad trades.

54:37I'd say the most usual trade structure in a dynasty startup is I'll just use this like tiered kind of stuff.

54:43And you said, you already know where I'm going.

54:46Like, just say you gave up your first round pick and your fourth round pick and you get a second round pick and a third round pick back.

54:54A lot of people will use that type of like trading strategy and like, just say like, just juxtapose that with like, just to give examples.

55:02Like, uh, I give up my fifth and eighth round pick and I get your sixth and seventh round pick or something like that.

55:09Like, so for dynasty startups and you know, I would say, um, be very mindful of where you sit with players, like

55:16getting guys that at the end of a tier, if you're more hesitant about trading up, trading back in the early parts,

55:23do it in the later parts in the middle rounds when it's more cost prohibited to do it.

55:28Um, where it's easier to do that as well, to go up and get a guy that's the last of a tier.

55:35But the other thing I'll say slat is head to discord, hit me up in DMS.

55:40We can have a much longer conversation, uh, in that forum that we can have here.

55:44Also check out the fancy pros dynasty YouTube channel as well.

55:48Right now, we just did a startup mock draft a couple of weeks ago on the channel.

55:53Uh, so you can check that out slatter to me.

55:56And then also, uh, keep in mind, I think we just did rankings episodes maybe within the last five to six weeks.

56:03So some things have changed, but, um, I would certainly check those episodes out as well.

56:07That's a great resource that Pat and, uh, Boggs and the boys are taking care of over there.

56:13Lambreezy, uh, in a standard league, full PPR with one quarterback, two running back, two wide receiver, one flex, one tight end defense and a kicker.

56:21Is it better to prioritize the onesie position or get depth at running back and wide receiver and focus later?

56:27This is going to depend. Like I'm just going to give a general rule for this, which we've talked about.

56:33Yes. If you're in an eight or yeah, eight or 10, you're going to want to prioritize those onesies.

56:39If you're 12 or 14, the bigger, the league, the less you prioritize it.

56:43That's how we would say that. Exactly. Good set of them.

56:46Um, here we go. We got Hayes checking in saying, uh, is it crazy to draft Josh Allen and James Cook in

56:53the first two rounds at the nine spot too early for Josh, uh, or having quarterback running back from the same team.

57:00I just can't take a quarterback and round two.

57:02I can't, I can't endorse you taking Josh Allen that early taking, taking a running back and a quarterback for the same team is totally fine.

57:10I think the best at cost bet you could probably make with that right now is Murray and Hampton and Justin Herbert,

57:17um, or Devon H and Malik Willis. Uh, but no, I'm not drafting Josh Allen that damn early.

57:22No way. No, no way. Can't do it. Can't get more to get Tyson.

57:27Fair is what you get accepted. That's the rule in dynasty.

57:30I'd fair is what gets accepted. Yeah. I would, I don't think that's going to be gets, if you can get that accepted, especially, and that's not crazy.

57:38It depends on if somebody's like, okay, fine. I give up.

57:42I'm out on Tyson. If you can get that accepted, do it and do it for Tyson.

57:47Totally fine with that. Yeah. I just got three first round picks in a, in a rookie draft for someone to move

57:53up four spots to take Jordan Tyson before that injury.

57:57So yeah, every, everything's fair, but I think you're going to probably need to add more to RJ Harvey to get Tyson.

58:03But, um, are you guys in on Panthers? RB Jonathan Brooks.

58:07I'm RB 26 right now. Derek. I've made the train baby.

58:10Okay. Let's go. Yes. I've been in on the Brooks since freaking January people.

58:14Yes. I'm still in. Yes. Do you want to know like the type of season I think we're going to get out of him?

58:21Please remember Chris. Do you know Chris ivory with the jets?

58:25Do you remember that? Uh huh. It's not going to be sexy, but I think you could get, you know, somewhere between

58:3110 and 13 PPR points a week with Jonathan Brooks.

58:34Like, I don't think, I think he's going to be out there.

58:38I think he's, you know, not going to be a thousand yard rush or anything, but I think he could have eight, 900 yards.

58:45And I think you could have six to seven touchdowns and have some passing game involvement.

58:50Where are you at right now on, on, on Brooks D bro.

58:54What if he has a season that is akin to Quen Sean Judkins, but he's actually really freaking good at football.

59:00I mean, then be crazy. Then it's a league winner.

59:03And he's in a better offense. It's a league winner then.

59:07Yeah. RB three price tag. He's going to be a strong RB two.

59:10I do not care about Hubbard. I do not care.

59:13I do not. Okay. So you, you see the ceiling maybe a little bit higher than I do, but I think it's a great floor play.

59:21Either way. 15 running back this year. When we flip over the cards, we're in the middle of the season.

59:27I think Jonathan Brooks could be top 15. So loggers and touts checking in or stouts actually loggers and stouts.

59:33I thought you were talking about touts, but talking about stouts, I'm not a stout or really a logger guy personally.

59:40But that's just me. It's never. I like light beer, but you know, you and your, you and your bush apples are pretty good.

59:47Pretty good. Which side do you like more AJ Brown and a mid to early 27 first?

59:52Or Odunze, Lad, and Concepcion? Oh, so this is a compete versus a rebuild conversation.

59:57I think it's fair either. I think it's fair.

60:00I'm probably taking. Again, this depends on your context of your team.

60:03If I'm competing for a championship, give me the AJ Brown part.

60:07If I am middle of the road or, or punt it down the road, then I'm taking the Odunze side.

60:13Okay. Keeper League here for Bach asking, he's got a Keeper League.

60:17We need to keep two players for $10 more than last year.

60:20I put the sleeper projections next to them for my specific leagues.

60:24$250 budget, 12-man full PBR. Options are Bucky Irving, $21.

60:27You can do Bijan Robinson, $85. Devonta Smith, $32.

60:30Who should I keep? Bijan and Smith. Let's just not overcomplicate this.

60:33Yep. Agreed. Hayes. Oh, we already got to Hayes' question.

60:36Hayes is crazy. We know this. A little spammy action.

60:39Okay. We've gotten to a couple of these. Come here.

60:42Come on down. Trey Peck asking, two quarterback league, first round, Josh and Lamar.

60:47Second round, a running back or two quarterbacks round one and two?

60:50Two. If it's a straight two quarterbacks, so a little bit different than Superflex two.

60:55I would take Josh and a running back. This also depends how you're...

60:59Okay, so the problem with stuff like this is in 2QB or Superflex, every room is totally different.

61:04That's why Superflex rankings do not matter, honestly. You need to...

61:07My approach with this, with two quarterback or Superflex leagues, understand who do you like as far as quarterbacks, where they're going

61:14in drafts, and being open, depending on how the draft goes, to building a variety of different quarterback rooms.

61:20Like, are you in on late quarterback? So are you comfortable going with, like, a Tyler Shuck, Malik Willis, Jared Goff, 3QB type of room?

61:27Are you more like, I got to get one, like, awesome quarterback and then punt QB2?

61:32This is a philosophical question, but also understanding that, like, none of those drafts...

61:37No two rooms are the same when we're talking about 2QB.

61:40So, like, I think it's Josh and then figure out QB2.

61:43But again, it depends on your room, dude. Yeah, it certainly does.

61:47Derek, great stuff today, man. Appreciate all your hard work you're doing to, you know, updating the rankings every single day.

61:53You look at someone who's spending the most time on the expert platform.

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62:44Sally, yeah, I like that. There we go. Ship it.

62:47Okay. Ship it. Also, I will bring up a comment from earlier.

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