Fantasy Football Waiver Wire Week 5: Top Pickups, FAAB Bids, Drops & Streamers (Ep. 2241)
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55 min
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Oct 5, 2026
Published
Mon, October 5, 2026
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Player insights
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Players mentioned
Topics
Keon ColemanJaylen WrightKalif RaymondKeaton MitchellKendre MillerMarShawn LloydTank BigsbyWill ShipleyChris GodwinCourtland SuttonEmanuel WilsonJ.K. DobbinsJameis WinstonKenyon Sadiq
Player analysis
Player insights
Chris Godwin
NegativeProjection43:31
Chris Godwin is viewed as a better start than Courtland Sutton due to his role as a safety valve for Jalen Daniels, despite concerns about the Buccaneers' offense and Godwin's recovery from a 2024 ankle injury.
Insight pageCourtland Sutton
NegativeValue39:06
Courtland Sutton is currently WR102 with 3.3 half-PPR points per game. While the source previously considered him a cut, the injury to Pat Bryant makes him the WR2 on an offense expected to improve, leading the analysts to suggest keeping him for now as a stash.
Insight pageEmanuel Wilson
PositiveValue13:30
Emmanuel Wilson is a priority waiver add in leagues where he is available, as he is only rostered in 49% of Yahoo leagues. He is coming off a 20-carry, 81-yard, one-touchdown performance and benefits from Jadarian Price being on injured reserve.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
NegativeDepth Chart56:58
Pat Fitzmaurice and Jake Ciely agree to keep J.K. Dobbins on rosters. While he is currently averaging low points per game in a split backfield, they view him as a viable depth piece who could see increased volume if the Broncos' offense improves or if the starter ahead of him misses time.
Insight pageJameis Winston
PositiveProjection46:12
Jameis Winston is a viable streamer for Week 5 against the Commanders. His tendency to create 'garbage time' through interceptions and touchdowns makes him a top-15 quarterback play.
Insight pageJaylen Wright
NegativeUsage13:56
Jalen Wright remains a worthwhile stash despite a poor outing (five carries for seven yards) against a tough Minnesota defense. The Dolphins' backfield behind Devon Achane is considered a fluid situation, and Wright could see increased work given his skill set.
Insight pagePositiveSleeper51:52
Jalen Wright is a recommended speculative waiver wire addition for Week 5.
Insight pageKalif Raymond
NegativeDepth Chart38:29
The source agrees that Kalief Raymond is a drop candidate because he is not a comfortable start despite having occasional productive weeks.
Insight pagePositiveUsage61:57
The analysts recommend cutting Khalif Raymond. After a brief breakout, his usage plummeted to two targets for six yards, and they note he is only a desperation play who cannot be started with any confidence.
Insight pageKeaton Mitchell
NegativeUsage16:37
Keaton Mitchell has standalone RB3/flex value in a full-blown committee backfield for the Chargers. He saw significant touches alongside O'Marion Hampton and Kamani Vidal, making him a desperation play in deeper formats.
Insight pagePositiveSleeper52:03
Keaton Mitchell is a recommended waiver wire addition for managers dealing with bye-week issues.
Insight pageKendre Miller
PositiveSleeper10:22
Kendre Miller is an intriguing stash candidate who does not necessarily need an injury to have value. He could potentially see a 55-45 split with Alvin Kamara, making him worth a flyer in deeper leagues before his Monday night game.
Insight pagePositiveSleeper51:19
Kendre Miller is a recommended waiver wire add, with the source suggesting he could see a significant role split.
Insight pageKenyon Sadiq
PositiveSleeper44:34
The source recommends keeping Kenyon Sadiq on rosters, noting that despite the volatility inherent in non-elite tight ends, he has shown upside.
Insight pageKeon Coleman
PositiveBreakout31:59
Keon Coleman is a top wide receiver waiver add. Despite a slow start to his career, Pat Fitzmaurice notes that receivers often take time to develop, comparing his trajectory to Davante Adams' early career struggles.
Insight pagePositiveValue31:59
Pat Fitzmaurice identifies Keon Coleman as the top wide receiver add for the week, noting he is a former 33rd overall pick who just had a breakout game with over 100 yards and a touchdown. While acknowledging Coleman's slow start, Fitzmaurice compares his trajectory to Davante Adams' early career struggles and notes Coleman's elite performance in the Combine's gauntlet drill. He recommends a FAAB bid of $6-$11.
Insight pageNegativeUsage35:25
Jake Ciely expresses skepticism regarding Keon Coleman's consistency, noting that he struggles to separate and may not be a great fit for the Bills' offense. Ciely ranks him inside his top five waiver adds but prefers other options, citing a lack of trust in the Bills' passing game consistency.
Insight pageMarShawn Lloyd
NegativeUsage20:32
Marshawn Lloyd has struggled as a runner early in the season. While he has shown some pass-catching ability, his overall efficiency has been poor, leaving the door open for other running backs to potentially take over.
Insight pageNegativeDepth Chart58:52
Pat Fitzmaurice and Jake Ciely advise cutting Marshawn Lloyd. Despite initial hopes, his recovery from injury has been disappointing, and he has fallen behind Caleb Johnson on the depth chart. He is no longer considered a viable fantasy starter.
Insight pageMarvin Harrison Jr.
NegativeBust42:59
Marvin Harrison Jr. is considered a cut candidate by the source, noting a decrease in snaps and a lack of production following an early touchdown catch.
Insight pageMichael Pittman
NegativeBust39:59
Michael Pittman Jr. is currently WR94 in fantasy points per game, and the source suggests his time as a fantasy-relevant player is likely over, recommending he be dropped.
Insight pageMike Gesicki
PositiveUsage47:15
Mike Gesicki is a recommended tight end streamer for Week 5, expected to play an outsized role due to the Bengals' injury situation at wide receiver.
Insight pageOllie Gordon
PositiveUsage13:50
Ollie Gordon appears to have seized the lead role in the Dolphins' backfield after a 100-yard rushing performance, including a 53-yard run. While the situation remains fluid and potentially ambiguous, he has outperformed Jalen Wright recently.
Insight pageOmarion Hampton
NegativeUsage18:30
The Chargers' backfield is a 'sticky web' of a committee, with snap counts split almost evenly between Keaton Mitchell, O'Marion Hampton, and Kamani Vidal. Pat Fitzmaurice suggests avoiding this backfield entirely, especially if right tackle Joe Alt misses time due to a neck injury.
Insight pageQuentin Johnston
NegativeBust42:26
The source advises against picking up Quinton Johnston, indicating he is not a recommended waiver wire addition.
Insight pageRoman Wilson
NegativeUsage40:12
Despite a strong start to the game against the Browns, Roman Wilson is not expected to be a consistent fantasy option. He played only 22 of 71 offensive snaps and was fourth on the team in routes run, primarily operating as a slot receiver.
Insight pageSaquon Barkley
NegativeInjury1:53
Saquon Barkley left the Rams-Eagles game early with a hamstring injury. The source assumes this could be a multi-week issue, though they are awaiting MRI results to confirm the timeline.
Insight pageTank Bigsby
NegativeInjury0:56
Tank Bigsby left his recent game with an abdomen injury that appears serious enough to potentially keep him out for Week 5. If healthy, he would likely lead the backfield, but his status is currently uncertain and requires monitoring.
Insight pagePositiveValue50:55
Tank Bigsby is a top waiver wire priority, though his availability for Week 5 is uncertain due to injury.
Insight pageTre Harris
PositiveBreakout37:10
Jake Ciely advocates for Trey Harris as a priority add over Keon Coleman, highlighting that Harris led the Chargers in receiving and is finally hitting his potential as an X-receiver. Ciely suggests a FAAB bid of $8-$13, noting that Harris is a better bet for production while Ladd McConkey is injured.
Insight pageTyjae Spears
NegativeUsage57:31
The analysts recommend cutting Tyjae Spears in shallower leagues. They describe his role as providing 'empty calories' and express a desire to avoid the Titans' offense entirely due to inefficiency and poor performance.
Insight pageTyler Higbee
PositiveSleeper47:24
Tyler Higbee is recommended as a tight end streamer for Week 5, with the source noting that his usage would be highly valued if he were a more prominent name like Parkinson or Ferguson.
Insight pageTyreek Hill
NegativeValue48:47
The analysts discuss the potential for Tyreek Hill to sign with the Chiefs following a severe knee injury. While there is excitement, they warn that he is unlikely to return until November or later. Jake Ciely suggests picking him up for $12+ only as a 'sell-high' trade candidate if he signs, rather than expecting immediate production.
Insight pageWill Shipley
PositiveBreakout0:50
Will Shipley is a top waiver wire target if Tank Bigsby misses time due to his abdomen injury. Shipley is a versatile early-declare prospect with a strong athletic background. While the Eagles' offense and offensive line have struggled, Shipley could see 15-plus touches against the Jaguars, making him a viable RB2 play if he inherits the backfield volume.
Insight pagePositiveValue50:55
Will Shipley is a top waiver wire priority for Week 5, especially if Tank Bigsby is unable to play.
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Episode Transcript
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0:27We're talking week five waiver wire gents. And, uh, well, much like the rest of the waiver wire weeks, it's not a
0:33pretty one, but that means that we need to be more vigilant as we go through the waiver wire here.
0:39And we need to take a look at the players that we have available to us.
0:43And guys, let's just start this off with the big name of the week because this is going to be something to watch.
0:50The waiver wire ad of the week. We're looking at potentially Will Shipley running back for the Philadelphia Eagles, but this is
0:56going to be one to take note of because Tank Bigsby leaves this game with what seems to be a semi-serious injury.
1:03Pat, you wrote down Will Shipley as one of your guys for this week.
1:07How are you feeling about this one going forward?
1:09I guess it all depends. We're going to have to follow the injury news on this one, Alfredo, because we had Saquon
1:16Barkley leave the Rams-Eagles game early with a hamstring injury.
1:19And then Tank Bigsby would seem to be the first in line, at least on early downs to take that work.
1:25And Will Shipley may be more of a passing down guy, but then Tank Bigsby went down with some sort of injury.
1:31Couldn't tell whether it was groin or hip, but he was having a hard time getting off the turf.
1:37It's hard to imagine him being ready for week five.
1:39So Will Shipley could have this backfield largely to himself this week.
1:43And, you know, Shipley's interesting. Sort of an early declare guy from Clemson.
1:47Good, versatile skill set. Running, catching. He was a super athlete in high school, like a track and lacrosse star.
1:52So we might be looking at a 20-touch game for Will Shipley.
1:56But there are some concerns here, too, because the Eagles offensive line has been bad and that offense has not been clicking.
2:02Eagles fans are already losing. They're already calling for Sirianni to get fired again.
2:06It's happening early this year. Normally, that's like week eight talk.
2:10We're doing it here week four. Jake, I know that we have to wait and see what's going on with the injury here with Tank Bigsby.
2:17Is your top waiver wire ad Will Shipley or is there anyone else that you might consider here?
2:22It is if the Tank Bigsby thing is that serious.
2:25I think they called it abdomen. And so that kind of was going on.
2:29But we felt like seeing players that seem super serious and they're back out the next week.
2:34And then we've seen ones where it's like, you know, it should be only like a maybe day-to-day.
2:39And then it's all of a sudden two weeks later.
2:42Jalen Coker, by the way. So, like, there's all these concerns that, like, it might be.
2:47But I think the biggest picture, let's take it as in there is no Tank Bigsby.
2:51Yeah, Liz Shipley will be the number one. But I put him in the same bucket as the conversation we had last week with Braylon Allen.
2:59Is that volume is going to offset it. He's got the Jaguars this week, which I think is why we're going to
3:05probably know pretty soon on Tank Bigsby. Because they have to make the trip and whether or not he's even healthy enough to go through all that.
3:13But you're talking about volume against the Jaguars defense who have one of the better rush EPA defenses.
3:18Actually just have a good defense. I don't need to tell anybody that.
3:22So I think what we got out of Braylon Allen this week would be pretty much what I would expect for Will Shipley.
3:29They'd probably add somebody off the street. They'd actually maybe call up Jaden Blue is on their practice squad, by the way,
3:35for all those blue truthers out there. But I think Shipley would be like, hey, you know, 15 plus touches against the Jaguars.
3:42RB2, but we're not super excited about it. Everything Will said is kind of like what I would echo.
3:47But as in he's kind of slightly above average running back.
3:50I don't think he's going to really move the needle for this team and like fix their offense.
3:56That being said. Yeah, we just saw Chase Brown come off a performance where he had 10 yards rushing here.
4:01But he also had 10 catches. So maybe we see some sort of a Will Shipley 11 catches.
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5:00All right, guys, this coming week, we are going to have our first experience with buys.
5:04Guys, both the Chiefs and Panthers are going to be on a bye week here in week five.
5:09So there's going to be the Ken Walker manager that's looking for a replacement to the Chuba Hubbard manager looking for a replacement.
5:16And I mean, Panthers looking pretty good, but we're going to have to find a lot of replacements here.
5:22So let's start with the running backs, the top running back ads.
5:25And Jake, I'll start with you on this one.
5:28I know we talked about Will Shipley here a little bit.
5:31Anyone else that you think might be a good running back ad or you want to expand a little more on Shipley and Bigsby?
5:38Good. I like how you stuck on that word there for a second.
5:41Good. I think that's the question. I think, yeah, the tank Bigsby, Will Shipley will have to shake at.
5:47Like if it was, take the other side of it real quick because we didn't really spend a lot of time on it.
5:54But if Bigsby is OK, I would expect him to lead.
5:57But I would kind of compare this to the Steelers before Dowdle got hurt is that it should be Dowdle slash Warren
6:03as in kind of the early down Dowdle set, you know, Warren and passing it.
6:08But like they'll be pretty close in a 50-50, maybe 55-45.
6:11But the game script could change it, which is why I'd probably be frustrating on that side alone.
6:16I mean, outside of the names we've already talked about, unfortunately, one of the ones while we're recording, I think, is the
6:22most intriguing is Kendrick Miller because I think he's the one.
6:25If you look at this list, list, list, list.
6:28Keaton Mitchell of Timeshare, Chris Rodriguez. We know who he is.
6:31Caleb Johnson and Marshawn Lloyd. Wait, if Chris Brooks is hurt, maybe if you're super desperate, all of a sudden it's down to two instead of three.
6:39But the biggest one here, if you look down this list, who doesn't need an injury to really have value is Kendrick
6:45Miller coming out of the game tonight. Would it be a shock to anybody if he led 55-45 and they just kept
6:52Kamara in the role that he was in? I think that's why it's worth taking a flyer.
6:57So if you're on one of those leagues like Yahoo, where if you can drop somebody who hasn't played that was on
7:03your bench or has played that's on your bench that you didn't use, I would absolutely stash Miller before that game happens tonight.
7:10You could be throwing him right back onto the waivers come Wednesday.
7:13But this list is a lot of names that are just kind of like, yeah, I want to see an injury before I really get super excited.
7:21That's what I had to say. Is there anyone that's good to add for your team?
7:26Pat, would Kendrick Miller be the next guy up for you in the running back position here, especially because we have that Monday night.
7:33Game coming up here. I think we'll know more on Monday night and it's going to be a really good test for
7:39Kendrick Miller because you figure he might get some run on the early downs and it's going to be Kamara having the passing down work to himself.
7:47Falcons have actually been really tough against the run so far.
7:50They have been a total pass funnel. Teams are throwing on the Falcons like 72.8% of the time this year because they've had trouble running.
7:57So if Kendrick Miller is able to do any business on the ground against the Falcons tonight, that's a pretty good sign
8:03that he might be a worthwhile ad now that Travis Ichien is on IR.
8:08Let me just add two more names real quick, Alfredo.
8:10One is a not in my league bro type of guy, but we should mention that Emmanuel Wilson is only rostered in 49% of Yahoo leagues right now.
8:19He had 20 carries for what? 81 yards and a touchdown yesterday.
8:22And with Jadarian Price on injured reserve, if Emmanuel Wilson is available on waivers in any league, he's going to be a popular ad this week for sure.
8:30The other guy, all right, so Jake and I, I believe, favored Ollie Gordon over Jalen Wright last week.
8:36And that looks good after Ollie Gordon has the 100-yard rushing day, has the big 50, what, 53-yard run early in the
8:42second half, and then was kind of the clear lead guy the rest of the way after that.
8:47Jalen Wright actually started in that game. Jalen Wright, five carries for seven yards against a really good Minnesota run defense.
8:53So you would think maybe, oh, now it's open and shut case.
8:57Ollie Gordon is the guy. But it's been really ambiguous ever since last year who was the true number two behind Devon
9:03Achan, whether it was Jalen Wright or Ollie Gordon.
9:06I think that might still be a fluid situation despite what we saw last week with Ollie Gordon seemingly seizing command of that backfield.
9:13And I think Jalen Wright is still a worthwhile ad, still only rostered in 32% of Yahoo leagues.
9:18Ollie Gordon now pretty widely rostered. Yeah, I think the big thing for both those running backs is that it's not just
9:24trying to figure out who's going to be the guy for three or four games.
9:28They had the whole season here. So we're probably going to see some ups and downs with both of these running backs.
9:35Ollie Gordon, not known to be the explosive guy making long runs or being the pass catcher out of the backfield.
9:41So Jalen Wright could see a little bit more work here for the Dolphins.
9:45Guys, anyone else on this running back list here?
9:48I'm going to throw some names at you. If there's anyone else, Keaton Mitchell, Chris Rodriguez, Caleb Johnson, are any of those
9:54guys interested you on the waiver wire this week, Jake?
9:57Like I said, Caleb Johnson from Desperate. I mean, Keaton Mitchell has the standalone RB3 flex value that we thought he would
10:03when we thought that it might just be the two of them under Mike McDaniel and that he's done this before.
10:09And now that it's a full blown committee, by the way, for everybody that didn't really check or watch that game.
10:15It wasn't even 50 percent of the touches for Hampton.
10:18Like it wasn't like he got 50 and Mitchell and Vidal got 50.
10:22It was a full blown everybody got touches and Mitchell was right there alongside of him.
10:27I think I don't even know if the final count might have been one more for Mitchell or somewhere around there.
10:33But yeah, so there you go. So, you know, if you're desperate, like the only reason I bring up Caleb Johnson is
10:39because, like I said, I go back to the Chris Brooks and I'm not super excited by Caleb Johnson.
10:45I'm not super excited by Marshall Lloyd at this point.
10:47But, you know, if you want to take the chance on the highest upside and maybe because Brooks is out, you get
10:54Caleb Johnson to get 50 percent of that work, then sure.
10:57And I, you know, on the Emmanuel Wilson side of things, he's like, yeah, not my league.
11:02But also I think that you might be one more week before Charbonnet is back anyway.
11:07So that's kind of why I'm not super excited for Emmanuel Wilson.
11:10You know, I just want to pause really quick on the Amarin Hampton and the Chargers backfield there.
11:15Is Hampton at any point here, Pat, a buy low or is this like we are fully afraid of the Chargers backfield?
11:22And there was a drive late in that game where Hampton looked pretty good as sort of the lead guy.
11:27I do worry a little bit that Joe Alt, their right tackle, left with a neck injury of some sort.
11:33And they were already having issues in the middle of that offensive line.
11:37If Alt has gone for any length of time, I just want to avoid this backfield.
11:41And as Jake said, I believe the snap counts for those three backs were Keaton Mitchell, 26.
11:46O'Marion Hampton, 25. Kamani Vidal, 25. So that is as sticky a web as can be for trying to chase the right Chargers back.
11:53Just to add on Caleb Johnson real quick. So the good news, bad news for him was that the Packers went out
12:00last week in a panic and signed three offensive guards.
12:03Laken Tomlinson, Mekhi Becton, Kevin Zeitler. Tomlinson and Becton played.
12:05Their running game was actually a little better. I think they averaged four yards per carry, over four yards per carry against
12:12the Buccaneers, who are always pretty tough against the run.
12:15The bad news for Caleb Johnson, he lost a fumble near the Buccaneers goal line when the Packers were trying to pad
12:21their lead, make it a two score game rather than a one score game.
12:25So he kind of put the team in jeopardy a little bit there.
12:29You wonder if he might get thrown into fumble jail for that.
12:32But then again, Marshawn Lloyd has lost fumbles this year, too.
12:36So it's hard to penalize one and not the other.
12:38Marshawn Lloyd, man. I know he was catching some passes.
12:41He had his one play where he jumped over a defender.
12:45But running the ball has looked rough for Marshawn Lloyd here early in the season.
12:49So there may be an opportunity for another running back to take over there.
12:53It has. Before we move off the running backs, what do you guys think we should be recommending people bid on Shipley or any of these?
13:00Oh, yeah. The fab recommendation for Shipley. Are we assuming no Tank Bigsby?
13:04And that's the other thing. The Barkley, I'm assuming, is multiple weeks.
13:08But again, this is another one we haven't got the MRI to know of.
13:12Oh, OK. It's going to be week to week and he might be back in two or three.
13:17So I'll go Fitz. I'll say four and there's no Bigsby on Shipley.
13:21I think you're going to have to go into the 30s.
13:24Yeah. That's not having the full information on Barkley or Bigsby.
13:27Right now we're recommending a range of 11 to 23.
13:30Yeah. I guess desperate people are desperate right now.
13:33I actually have a bid sitting for Will Shipley in a league of mine for exactly 23.
13:37I think I'll have to up it now after this.
13:40But yeah, coming up for Will Shipley, Jacksonville, Carolina, Dallas.
13:43Could be a lot of pass-heavy game script there for Will Shipley in the coming weeks.
13:48with a decent floor running the ball if Tank Bigsby and Saquon Barkley are both out.
13:52So I like the fab recommendation there. Was that in flex, Alfredo?
13:56Is there any? No, no, no, no. Is there any other running back this week you'd be willing to bid double-digit dollars on?
14:03No. Unless we find out Kendrick Miller tonight. That's exactly it.
14:06Yeah. We'd have to see that Kendrick Miller has like a...
14:09Yeah. Miller is in play. And if you were really desperate and it's a deep league and there's just not a lot
14:15on waivers and Jalen Wright is floating out there, I might be willing to go 11 or 12 and just plunk him
14:22on my bench until maybe something changes in that back.
14:25Yeah. I'm letting my Dolphins bias hit me right now.
14:27All right. We're going to move on to... No, no, no.
14:31We're good. What do you want to say, Pat?
14:33Oh, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, and I'm, you know, I was kind of the Ollie Gordon guy,
14:40but I recognize that that might not... It's not a static situation.
14:43It's just gross, man. The timeshares on a bad offense just always just kind of gives me the ick.
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19:11All right, gents, let's go to the wide receiver ads here.
19:14Pat, why don't you kick us off? Who is your top wide receiver ad for this week?
19:19I think it's Keon Coleman, a player that a lot of fantasy managers have left for dead over the last couple of years.
19:25The former 33rd overall pick of the draft, a player that I think a lot of people thought the Bills made a mistake on.
19:32Trading back, letting some other wide receivers go in the first round of that draft, and then taking Coleman at the top of the second.
19:39But sometimes, sometimes receivers take the more traditional path to success.
19:43Back in the Stone Ages, when I started playing fantasy football, it was why Lee presumed that you didn't expect a receiver
19:49to pop until his second or third year. And Keon Coleman, two really bad years.
19:53But, you know, Devontae Adams had two pretty mediocre years to start his NFL career.
19:58Fewer than 500 receiving yards in each of Devontae's first two years.
20:01Really drop prone early with Green Bay. And Devontae Adams just went over 13,000 yards for his career on Sunday.
20:07And he's maybe an example that we should give these guys grace sometimes early in their career.
20:12So Keon Coleman really popped yesterday, goes over 100 yards, has a touchdown for the Bills.
20:16DJ Moore re-injures the shoulder that he first injured in what?
20:20Week two. So Keon Coleman might be the top outside receiver now for Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills.
20:25And, like, Coleman was good in college. Like, he was, he made some phenomenal catches at Florida State.
20:30Just true highlight reel stuff. Not super fast, but fast enough that the Florida State Seminoles had him returning punts in his first year.
20:37And I think at the Combine, where they do that drill, the gauntlet drill, where they're running sideline to sideline and catching
20:44balls thrown at him from either side. I think Keon Coleman had the fastest time running that drill of any receiver in his class.
20:51So, he's an interesting player. I wouldn't break the bank to get him, but I think he's the top wide receiver at this week.
20:58Year three breakout for Keon Coleman is not, we just had a year 10 breakout for Khalif Raymond.
21:03This is, this is child's play here. Year three breakout.
21:06Yeah, I remember that used to be the rule for wide receivers, right?
21:09It's just like, oh, they're not going to do much rookie year.
21:13Second year, they get better. Third year is when they really break out.
21:17And here we are, Keon Coleman. Jake, how do you feel about Keon Coleman?
21:21And do you have maybe a different top wide receiver ad for this week?
21:25Yeah, I do have a different one because I feel the same that I felt about Keon Coleman.
21:30Like when he came out of the, out of Florida State, I actually said he could be the best of Kenny Galladay and the worst of Kenny Galladay.
21:38But that kind of gives you the ideas. Everything that Fitz said, yeah, it was great, but he also does that against nobody.
21:45That's the biggest thing is like, I just don't, he doesn't separate.
21:48He doesn't get the space. And I don't know that he's a great fit for consistency in this offense.
21:54And that's what it comes down to is that the reason I was so in on DJ Moore is because I felt
22:00like he fit perfectly for that big slot who can still separate.
22:03And that's the one aspect of somebody I trust with Josh Allen.
22:07I don't trust Shakir. I don't trust Coleman. I don't trust the consistency of Kincaid from week to week because Josh Allen doesn't need to force it.
22:15Now there'll be games, obviously where Keon Coleman does pop and I'm not saying not go after him.
22:20He's would be inside my top five overall, but he'd be behind a wide receiver that I'm going to go a different area.
22:27And I know it's been a complete mess for this team.
22:30It's been gross. The one thing that is start starting to finally happen is Trey Harris that we talked about last year.
22:36And a lot of people were like, they drafted him.
22:39They were like, oh, they found their ex. They don't need to rely on Quentin Johnston anymore.
22:44They can just move on from that pick. That's a bust, which still looks like everything that we've hoped could possibly happen this off season.
22:51He's still a bust, but Trey Harris is hitting.
22:54Trey Harris just led this team. Well, I put that in quotes, led the team and receiving yesterday as what people thought
23:00he could be an X wide receiver. That's a really good compliment next to Lad McConkie, but unfortunately, Lad McConkie is hurt.
23:06But that's why I go for it is the fact that if they're going to get anything out of this offense and
23:13that Trey Harris, if not for having the injuries and missing most of his rookie season and not really able to catch
23:19on, this was somebody that was thought of pretty highly as second rounder last year and that everybody's like, they got their
23:26answer and they got their answer in the second round and now it's, okay, well, he missed a lot of time and
23:32Quentin Johnston, no, he's taking the job. He might even be the one going forward if Lad McConkie can't stay healthy.
23:38And again, I know this offense is a mess, but I would just take Trey Harris on a messy chargers versus Keon
23:44Coleman for what only might be two weeks anyway because apparently DJ Moore is only week to week at worst.
23:50So, I know it's frustrating for DJ Moore owners because I don't want to deal with this for the rest of the
23:57season is that this shoulder is going to have another issue every single week, but I would take Harris over Coleman.
24:03So, coming up here, I mean, these guys feel very similar as well.
24:06Keon Coleman, tough matchup going up against the Rams this next week and then Trey Harris, which would have been a tough
24:13matchup if Pat Sertan was in going up against the Denver Broncos, but still a tough defense here.
24:18Both these guys have pretty tough matchups coming up.
24:21So, let's talk Fab then. What are we, we both, both of you guys said, like, I don't really want to break
24:27the bank, but what's the idea here of what you would spend on him?
24:31Jake, how about you give us your Fab recommendation for Trey Harris and Pat yours for Keon Coleman?
24:36So, you mentioned part of it being the schedule, the other part of the schedule is we're starting to hit buys, so
24:42I might be slightly more aggressive, but for both, I'd be in the same range for both, maybe an extra dollar or
24:49two on Harris, but probably like, if I'm doing Harris, I'm probably eight to 13 max.
24:53If I'm going after Keon Coleman, I'm probably more like a six to 11 or 12.
24:58So, you can see it. They're still, I'm not breaking the bank.
25:02I might go double digits if I'm needy and in a deeper league, but after everything, I just waxed so poetically about
25:08Trey Harris is that I'm still not going crazy for either one.
25:11That's fair. Pat, what about you with Keon Coleman?
25:14Yeah, Jake read my mind on Keon six to 11.
25:17I think that's the right range. there you go.
25:20Can we, can we talk about the guy who might be a better ad for week five?
25:24Dante Myers. This is so interesting to me because if there's no, if there's no Jamar Chase and there's no T Higgins,
25:31this might be the guy that your league mates aren't even looking at because everyone's rushing out to grab Tyreek Hill and
25:37Keon Coleman and some of the bigger names that they know.
25:40But then Dante Myers might actually be the best ad of all of them, Pat.
25:45Which is understandable that people would know a lot about this guy since he was a zero star college recruit who played
25:51at Presbyterian College in Delta State, failed to try out with the Falcons, kept working to try to get himself into football,
25:57signed a futures contract with the Saskatchewan Rough Riders of the CFL after having to pay $100 to try out for the
26:04Rough Riders and was on the CFL Rough Riders practice squad for a year.
26:08Came up in 2025, had a thousand yard season for a team that won the Grey Cup, the championship.
26:13Someone in the Bengals scouting department noticed him. The Bengals gave him a futures contract.
26:18He was terrific in training camp and they decided to release Charlie Jones, their incumbent kick returner, to give Dante Myers that job.
26:24And now Myers is contributing as a receiver too.
26:27He's probably going to be their number one receiver this week.
26:30Like Jamar Chase got wrenched down on that ugly play by the face mask and has a concussion now.
26:36Who knows if there are any neck issues too.
26:38Tee Higgins with this adductor injury, which is, is what?
26:41Is that groin? Hip? Abdomen? I don't, I don't know.
26:44I don't, I failed my, I dropped out of medical school, so I don't know what adductor is.
26:49Yeah, it seems like Dante Myers, plus they had Andre Yosavash on IR.
26:53They had rookie Colby Young on IR. Like this team is out of wide receivers right now.
26:58It's basically Mitch Tinsley and Dante Myers. And Dante Myers was sort of the man of the hour in week four.
27:04So, they've got a matchup against the Dolphins who might have the worst secondary in the league this week.
27:09I think Dante Myers is going to be like inside my top 30 at wide receiver this week in the rankings.
27:15That was going to be my question for Jake here is if you do end up picking up Dante Myers, you're obviously desperate at receiver.
27:23And if you're picking him up and he does have this opportunity without Higgins and Chase, do you start him?
27:28Where do you rank him? What is he for you in your lineup going up against the Dolphins this week?
27:34I won't be that aggressive. That's all on fits for that one, mostly because they did bring in Mitch Tinsley.
27:40They brought him back. And if you saw late in that game, which I know you guys did, is that Chase Brown,
27:46the reason he had 11 for 11 is because they started using him as a wide receiver with Samaj P.
27:52Ryan in the backfield. I think this is just going to come down to what the Rams do.
27:57We're going to see Mike Kosicki be the biggest benefactor in my opinion that he turns into the one or the two.
28:04But you see like Hudson involved and Sample involved and maybe Eric All and like it's just going to be like a lot of tight ends.
28:11Did this Bryson Tremaine? Like I just, I don't want to chase.
28:15Like it's a great story. Like it is. And I hope I'm wrong.
28:18Like I really do because it's such a good story.
28:21But I just look at Donde Myers and I did not scout him in 2023.
28:26Emery Hunt did because he scouts like 8,000 people.
28:28Yeah. And he, for somebody like Emery who also loves, loves small school and no name people and he had him as like his 36th slot receiver.
28:36And I know there's been time and he's worked really hard and he looked, you know, good in the CFL.
28:42I was going to like, I'm going to take his and like maybe he would have him today, 15th slot receiver, which
28:48still means like, I just, I don't know that I'm, I'm going to ask a lot of somebody who's a great story, not a great talent.
28:56So again, I hope I'm wrong. I hope you're right, Fitz, because it would just be such a fun story, but I'm
29:02just going to, I'm going to let somebody else even spend money on him.
29:06Like if I got him for $0, cool, but I don't know that he would even get into my lineup.
29:12I'm not going to be inside the top 30 or 35 wide receiver for him.
29:16For all my enthusiasm about Dante Myers in this week's waiver article, my recommended bid range is $2 to $4 on him.
29:23I mean, crazier things have happened. Speaking of crazy things, guys, look at that transition.
29:27Tyreek Hill, thinking he's ready for some colder weather.
29:30And I have gotten this question already at least six times within the same game day of week four here.
29:35Should I drop X player for Tyreek Hill, who is now 48% rostered in sleeper leagues?
29:40Fitz, how are we doing here with Tyreek Hill?
29:43Is this someone that you want to actively pursue?
29:45And if you are, what are you throwing down for him?
29:48So it would be great if he was coming in this week, well, next week after the Chiefs get off their bye with Rishi Rice.
29:56Go ahead, Jake. I'm sorry to jump into your answer, but it legit came through as you asked the question.
30:01I don't know if this was on purpose, Alfredo, Adam Schefter developing.
30:05Rosenhaus says that Tyreek Hill is going to be negotiating a deal with teams within the next few days.
30:10Wow. So there you go. I did see here that one of the teams that has contacted Tyreek Hill and his agent against the Chiefs.
30:18Yeah. So reunited in an offense, he knows, going back to Andy Reid and he did have 4,000 yard receiving seasons over
30:24a five year stretch before going on to Miami and being even better there in his first two years.
30:29But had that terrible knee injury week four of last year.
30:33Torn ACL, no specs on the other ligament, ligaments damaged, but apparently other ligaments were torn, dislocated his knee.
30:38It was pretty gruesome. Supposedly, he's targeting a November return, turn.
30:41But I think it would be a leap of faith to assume that's going to be November 1st.
30:47It could be after we've carved our Thanksgiving turkeys that he is back.
30:50So Chiefs kind of need him now. We saw Tyquan Thornton's foot go in a bad direction last week.
30:56He's done for the season. We saw the Chiefs lose Rishi Rice through a hamstring injury early in that game.
31:02So they're down to what? Xavier Worthy? Jalen Royals?
31:04Not sure what else. Is it Cyrus Allen time?
31:07Cyrus Allen. Finally the unveiling. Yeah, like he's just not going to give the team immediate help.
31:12We don't know if at age 32 coming off this horrible knee injury.
31:15I mean, an old guy can still produce. We've seen it.
31:19I'll mention Devontae Adams again, but I think the worst injury Devontae Adams has ever had is turf toe.
31:24He has not had a reconstructed knee. So, boy, I mean, he's another two to four dollar guy only in a league where you have that roster.
31:32If you're someone who likes to churn the bottom of the roster, he is not for you because you would have to
31:38grab him and sit on him for probably one to two months.
31:42That's the thing here, I think, with Tyreek is that a lot of people are going to run out to add him
31:48and they're going to find out that he's not ready to play for another four to five weeks and then they're just
31:54going to drop him anyways and it becomes just a waste of a roster move here.
31:59Jake, anything you want to add to the Tyreek Hill stuff?
32:02I mean, you left out the other wide receiver.
32:05They have a Nico Romigio. So, you know, that's a funny name to say.
32:09I'm so sorry. I'm so unprofessional. Romigio. Like Rufio?
32:12I know. Moving on. It's a good pull. Like, here's why.
32:15Like, I'm saying yes to Tyreek Hill because of what you started this with, Alfredo.
32:19You said, I've been asked blank times already. I've been asked a multitude of times even last week when this rumor first started floating out.
32:26The biggest thing is what Fitz said is that it sounded like hopes to get out there by November which is like,
32:33okay, why are we doing this if hopes to get out there by November?
32:37But you bring up the need. The reason I say yes is because you throw some money on them.
32:42Probably have to go into the double digits because of the excitement but that's why.
32:47It's because if I could pick him up for even 12 bucks and he signs with the Chiefs on Friday and people
32:53start wondering like, oh, does that mean that he could potentially come back after their buy?
32:58You're going to be able to flip him into trade immediately and that's what would be my move is to immediately flip
33:04him and sell high because the excitement is similar to Cyrus Allen in the beginning of the season before we even hit.
33:10It's like all this excitement for rookies, the excitement for these names.
33:14It's like the excitement takes over the reality and that's where you could get kills being able to pick him up essentially for free.
33:21I say that in quotes because of how much fab you have to spend but be able to turn him into something
33:27that's actually going to be usable before November. Well, if we're going to make room for all these players we want to
33:33add, we're going to have to drop some players.
33:36Sorry to say it but it's the dirty part of fantasy football.
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34:08That's fantasypros.com slash plan. All right, gents, let's do a keep or cut rapid fire segment here.
34:13I got some names. We'll go by position here and you guys tell me keep or cut.
34:18Pat, let's start here with J.K. Dobbins, the running back 48 on the year, averaging just under five half PPR points per game.
34:24Keep or cut, Pat? I'm going to say keep.
34:27I think the Broncos offense is going to improve and there might be more meat on the bone for Dobbins, but, you
34:33know, I don't want to be starting him every week.
34:36I think he's a decent enough fourth running back.
34:39Keep. It's a split backfield, but if something were to happen to R.J.
34:42Harvey tomorrow, you know, we have volume reliance, so he's clear in that aspect.
34:47Well, we're going to have a theme here because there's some other split backfields.
34:51Next one up, TyJ Spears running back 63 on the season.
34:54He does have a role in the passing game.
34:56We are seeing that he's getting snaps, but it's a lot of empty calories, it would seem.
35:01Jake, keep or cut TyJ Spears? Yeah, you can move on in a shallower league because I really want, and I've been
35:08saying this the entire time, nothing to do with the Titans outside of stashing Colonel Tate on my bench and we finally
35:14got the Colonel Tate game, but I don't know if you can even put him in your lineup next week given the matchup.
35:21So, yeah, look, Tony Pollard needed 8 billion touches and a touchdown to save his day because it was so inefficient.
35:27I want nothing to do with this team. Agreed.
35:29Cut. All right, last running back on here, Pat.
35:32I'm sorry to do this to you. Marshawn Lloyd, Green Bay Packers, running back 45 on the year, averaging 5.5 points per game roughly.
35:39He did look good on the ground. He did catch some passes and made a few plays here and there.
35:45The Packers coaching staff does seem to still have confidence in him.
35:48Are you keeping or cutting? I'm going to say keep.
35:51We still have no word on the fate of Josh Jacobs and how long he's going to be on the commissioner's exempt list.
35:58We don't know about the Chris Brooks injury, which maybe winnows this down to a two-man backfield with Lloyd and Caleb Johnson.
36:04So, I say for now you keep him. Deuces.
36:07See ya. Like, I said see you later last week.
36:10I'm still saying see you later. I know I brought up the Chris Brooks thing, but like, of all these running backs
36:16and I'm going to have, I think like, I already looked like 13 or 14 in my waiver article because I try to go super, super deep.
36:24Lloyd is still at the tail end of it and he's behind Caleb Johnson just because of how bad it's looking.
36:30You brought it up. All the hope that we have Marshawn Lloyd who look like pre-injury Marshawn Lloyd, that's out the window.
36:36He's 80% pre-injury Marshawn Lloyd. It's bad. I think just as a fantasy manager, I always like to ask myself, do I
36:42have a possibility of starting this guy in any given week?
36:46What is the best case scenario on which I start this player?
36:49And if I tell myself it's probably not happening, then cool, I think it's time for me to cut bait.
36:55He is a tourniquet for those 14 bye weeks when you have two of your running backs injured.
37:00Don't forget, we still have 16 bye weeks because the NFL can't figure that out.
37:04I know. This is true. Eight, four game weeks.
37:07Like, it's so easy. Stop messing with us. Jake, you should write a letter.
37:11I have. I think I'm writing a letter. Strongly, dear Mr.
37:14NFL. That's the commissioner's name. Let's go to wide receiver here.
37:17We got some interesting names. Let's go with last week's darling right off the top rope here.
37:22Khalif Raymond, wide receiver 27 in fantasy, but then this past week, two targets, two catches, six yards.
37:28Granted, it was with Tyson Bajit, and maybe that's not what we see for the rest of the season, but this is so fantasy football.
37:35As soon as everyone buys into the Khalif Raymond 10th year breakout, Ben Johnson's like, no, that's you idiots.
37:40Jake, how do we feel about Khalif Raymond? I picked him up in my home league and started him and I'm going
37:47to send him right back to the waivers. You can cut him because here's the thing, you bring it up, it was Bajit.
37:53If you watch that game, this is what we wanted the Bears to be.
37:57Target, Adunze, Burden, Loveland, and that's it. Like, okay, cool, if you need Raymond on desperation, the biggest thing too is, and
38:04that's against, like the Jets aren't an amazing defense, but it was a good enough defense for me to sit there and
38:10watch that game and say, you know Raymond was benefiting from is that there was no time and he was the escape valve.
38:17So if this team is starting to gel, also on defense, question mark, if it's starting to gel all around and you're
38:23getting some time in the pocket, like we saw the game that we expected the Bears to be, and I think you
38:29can throw Raymond back in, which just means, as you said, Alfredo, you know what's happening next week?
38:35Kalief Raymond, seven catches, 90 yards, and a touchdown incoming.
38:38I was going to say, we got some very beatable secondaries coming up, Green Bay Packers and the Atlanta Falcons, likely without AJ Terrell as well.
38:45So Pat, Kalief Raymond, is he a keeper cut?
38:48I agree, you can cut him. He's good of his weeks, you just can't ever start him comfortably.
38:53Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that was kind of always the case.
38:57We just finally bought in. Let's go to some bigger names here that it's going to feel weird to have on this
39:03list, but we have to have the talk, boys and girls.
39:06Courtland Sutton, wide receiver 102. Holy jump scare. It's October.
39:09I looked this up and I just could not believe 3.3 fantasy half PPR points per game.
39:14Wide receiver 102. Pat, you keeping or cutting? I would have said cut, but Pat Bryant got carted off with a leg
39:20injury yesterday, so he's number two, back to being number two on an offense that I think is going to be better going forward.
39:27So I'm going to keep Courtland Sutton for now.
39:30You are incredibly right. I just think it's so funny that we're at the point where it's like, well, you know, Pat
39:36Bryant's gone, so now maybe we're going to get some more Courtland Sutton.
39:40It's just this is where we are, man, five weeks in.
39:43Jake, how about you? Copy-paste, exact same thing. It's just he was gone.
39:47I actually cut him in a few leagues last week, but Pat Bryant would maybe just go stash him just in case.
39:53But we knew Courtland Sutton was touchdown and bigger play reliant.
39:57It's just we weren't expecting it to be this bad.
39:59All right, Steelers here. Michael Pittman Jr., currently wide receiver at 94 in fantasy points per game.
40:04Are you cutting Michael Pittman Jr. keeping? And then one of the hot trending players right now to add on waivers is also Roman Wilson.
40:12I think Jeremy Bernard is another guy to consider here, but how do we feel about this Steelers wide receiver room, Jake?
40:18Yeah, I would actually make the switch, though I'm not expecting this to be continued.
40:22You said earlier in the show, I forget which player was like, you're holding on the Dolphins bias.
40:27And maybe this is me holding on to my Roman Wilson bias of the fact that I liked him as a player
40:34and I have liked him as a player. He got the off season, but let me make this clear.
40:39He got the off season buzz. You guys saw it.
40:42Everybody did. And even I was like, at this point, I was like, yeah, I'm kind of over it.
40:48I've done this. I've tried to root for Roman Wilson.
40:51I've tried to like him, but I've heard this before.
40:53But everything was like, oh, he's having the best camp.
40:56He looks great and everything like that. And then last week, he had that pass that went through his hands that led
41:03to an interception, essentially benched, which I thought, like, that's it.
41:06He's done. Aaron Rodgers hates his guts and Mike McCarthy benched him.
41:09And then we come right out from the gate.
41:12And who is Aaron Rodgers going to nonstop to start the game is Roman Wilson.
41:16Do I expect this to be consistent every single week?
41:19Absolutely not, because it's Aaron Rodgers. I don't expect Aaron Rodgers to be a top 10 quarterback every single week.
41:25That's two weeks in a row, which is a bit shocking.
41:28But I will say that Michael Pittman's time looks like it's done.
41:32I would make this swap. Roman Wilson will not make my top five, but he in the top five wide receivers, if
41:38only receivers only on Rod Burgundy, then yeah, he might be there.
41:41He might be like fifth. Oh my, the Colts have the chance to do the funniest thing.
41:46Just trade a day three draft pick for Michael Pittman to get him back onto the roster.
41:51They have Darius Slayton now, they don't need him.
41:54Yeah, yeah, said no one ever. How do we feel about the Steelers situation?
41:58Agree on getting rid of Pittman. I just, I'm not enthusiastic about Roman Wilson because the Steelers had 71 offensive snaps against the Brown.
42:05Roman Wilson played 22 of them. He was fourth on routes in the team.
42:09Behind Jeremy Bernard and Roman Wilson is kind of primarily a slot guy.
42:13They spent a day two pick on Jeremy Bernard who's primarily a slot guy.
42:17Just, you know, Wilson will have his moments, but again, a guy I don't think you can ever feel comfortable starting.
42:23All right, we got three more wide receiver names here.
42:26We'll run through these pretty fast. Quinton Johnston, wide receiver for the Los Angeles Chargers.
42:30Pat, I think we kind of gave this answer earlier, but I just want to reaffirm for everybody.
42:35That's a thumbs down for you audio folks. Pat won't even give him words.
42:39Jake, how about you? Two weeks ago, Quinton Johnston, Marvin Harrison, Brian Thomas, I am not picking any of them up, even
42:46Brian Thomas and Marvin Harrison coming off. By the way, Marvin Harrison decrease in snaps, even though he caught that touchdown on
42:52his one giant reception against the Giants, by the way.
42:55No, don't go back to any of them. So that leads me to the next guy, Marvin Harrison Jr.
43:00sounds like he's a cut for you and leave him off.
43:04It was great that he shushed everyone. He gave everyone the shush after he had the touchdown catch early in that game,
43:10and then he was hushed the rest of the game and didn't have another pass.
43:14Yeah. I want to see Marvin Harrison go somewhere else, man.
43:17I really do. I think he could be good on the Raiders, perhaps, at least in fit-wise, him and Fernando Mendoza.
43:24Chiefs. Chiefs. I mean, there's teams that need people.
43:26Go to fifth first on the last one while I grab this bone from the dogs.
43:31Last receiver here, Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We've been seeing more Ted Hurst.
43:35We know Jalen McMillan is out, but the Bucs offense just looks rough.
43:39I know we knew this was going to be the possibility with Jalen Daniels.
43:43He was an undrafted quarterback coming out of Kansas.
43:45Turnovers were a plenty. Running was a plenty. Not a lot of passing success there, Pat.
43:50So Chris Godwin, environment, and I just don't think he's the same guy he was before that gruesome ankle injury in 2024 he had.
43:57We're potentially looking here reportedly seven weeks of no Baker Mayfield as well, which is kind of nuts.
44:02Yeah, but so you go to Cortland Sutton, I'd start him over Cortland Sutton against Cowboys this week because at least the
44:08one thing that we did see is Daniels treating like a safety valve, the veteran over the middle that needs to be
44:15like, again, I'm not super excited about it, but going back to Cortland Sutton, which we were both so hesitant to do,
44:21versus Godwin against Dallas Cowboys secondary on a short week, I'd take that, just to give you a comparison, this is down
44:27the list, but I would keep Godwin over Sutton.
44:30Last guy on here, Kenyon Sadiq tied in for the New York Jets.
44:34We've seen the ups, we've seen the downs, we've seen him with and without Adonai Mitchell.
44:38Jake, are you keeping Kenyon Sadiq on your roster after picking him up?
44:42Yes, 100%. To go back to the snap count for Roman Wilson, I think that was the entire snap count for the offense of the Jets.
44:50That was just as bad as it could possibly get.
44:53I know Adonai Mitchell could be back this week, but if he's going to be playing through the hand-thumb thing with a
44:59wrap or whatever, you saw the upside of Sadiq and we saw it.
45:03It's just what happens. These are tight ends. I did this on my podcast three weeks ago.
45:08I said, understand tight ends outside of the elites, you're probably going to get 40% really bad games because they're tight ends.
45:14This is what happens. By Monday night, the advice is in, your lineups are locked, and all you can do is watch.
45:20Maybe you're protecting a one-point lead. Maybe you need 12 out of your flex.
45:24Or maybe your opponent has one kicker left and now every field goal attempt feels personal.
45:29Make one part of the night perfect. Get DiGiorno pizza ready for kickoff.
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45:39You don't want to step away when one target one touchdown or one unnecessary point can decide your week.
45:44Buy DiGiorno pizza on the weekend run so you at least know Monday night dinner is covered.
45:49Rankings can guide you, waivers can save you, but once the game starts, fantasy brings the chaos.
45:54Dinner doesn't have to. It's not delivery, it's DiGiorno.
45:57Let's move on to the top streamers that can be picked up off the waivers this week.
46:02We'll go position by position. Jake, I'll have you start.
46:05Fitz, I'll have you go next. quarterback, Jake, who are you getting as a streamer?
46:09We got what we wanted from this quarterback. We had two excuses.
46:12He came in mid-game and then bad weather, but then we got the full Jameis experience.
46:17Three touchdowns, two interceptions, everything we want in fantasy because, as I said two weeks ago, you can't have garbage time unless you help create the garbage.
46:25And that's what Jameis Winston does. And he gets to face the commander's secondary and that defense.
46:30I know the Colts didn't show up, but that was more of a Daniel Jones thing than anything.
46:35I think that the Jameis experience is going to be what the Jameis experience is.
46:39And as long as Malik neighbors and that shoulder doesn't scare the crap out of you, as long as that thing holds
46:46on against the commanders, he should be in play as a top 15 quarterback.
46:50Yeah, Bortles Wilson out here creating his, or Winston, excuse me, making his own garbage time.
46:54Fitz, who are you going with here at quarterback?
46:57Everyone wrecks the Lions pass defense. It's Jacoby Brissett's turn this week.
47:00Jacoby Brissett kind of remains underrated streamer weekend week out here for the Cardinals.
47:04Let's go to tight end. Fitz, I'll have you kick this one off.
47:08Who's your tight end streamer this week? Jake mentioned him in passing earlier, Mike Gusecki with the Bengals troublesome injury situation and wide receiver.
47:15Gusecki is going to play an outsized role this week.
47:18Jake, what about you at tight end? I'm going to a situation where they're forced to go one tight end because everybody
47:24is hurt and then Tyler Higbee in the matchup for this week.
47:28I think if you saw what happened with Higbee last week, if this was Parkinson or even Ferguson, people would be going crazy.
47:35If you look at the Rams this week for the matchup situation, it's on top of that as well.
47:40I'm chasing the Higbee. Again, this is streamer territory though, as we know.
47:44And my favorite position to stream every single week is the DST.
47:47Jake, kick us off here. Who's the DST that you're looking to start this week?
47:52So, interesting. I said, you know, the Bears sneaky best young player they trade away and it's like, hey, our defense is somewhat good?
47:59But the one thing is that they got after the backfield and the quarterback that got pressure in that game against the Jets.
48:05Well, they are surprisingly inside the top 11 for pressuring the quarterback.
48:09You know who's higher than them at seventh? The Browns going against the Jets.
48:13So, I'm going to chase the Browns in this matchup.
48:16And I think that's surprising too because you get rid of Miles Garrett.
48:19Oh, by the way, you're still a top 10 pressuring defense.
48:23So, I'll just go against. And then Gino's been playing good football, but we saw how bad it could be when it's bad.
48:29When it's bad, it's bad. Fitz, your DST. I'm going to go with the Cowboys because they play the Buccaneers.
48:35Jalen Daniels, the undrafted rookie free agent quarterback for the Buccaneers, was not a total disaster against the Packers in week four
48:41and yet, he threw two interceptions and was sacked three times.
48:45It could be worse than that. The Cowboys, not a good defense to this point, but against the undrafted rookie free agent
48:51quarterback, I will take my chances with them. And then, probably the biggest moment of the show here, guys, which kicker are
48:57you looking to stream in the coming week that you can grab off waivers?
49:01That's all. Yeah, I'm going to, Jake does not do kickers, so I'm going to give you one for Jake.
49:07Jake would want us to have Cairo Santos because even with backup quarterbacks, the last two weeks, the Bears offense has put
49:13up 27 and 23 points with backup quarterbacks. Cairo Santos, for a team that's going to score a lot of points this
49:20week against the Packers and you know that Ben Johnson is not going to take his foot off the gas against the team he hates.
49:27And the other one would be, I'm going to go with Matt Gay of the Raiders.
49:32The Raiders are averaging 28.8 points a game and have scored at least 26 in all four of their games and Matt
49:38Gay booted his 10th field goal yesterday, so he's been one of the better fantasy kickers so far.
49:43Here's the only one I know of and I don't even know how to say his last name starts with a Z
49:50or something like why don't you bring up the Giants?
49:52Yeah, isn't he like the best rookie start to kicker or something?
49:5610 for 10 or something kicking. I don't want the kicker on a Jameis Winston team because he's going to throw those interceptions that short circuit.
50:03It's either a touchdown or interception because there's no one between.
50:07And by the way, as far as the Matt Gay thing, kicks in New England last week, I even checked the weather for people.
50:14Everything looks good in New England. Don't have to worry about a Northeaster blowing through them.
50:18There you go. This is Jake's favorite part of the podcast.
50:21Talking kickers. He loves it. Talking kickers and weather.
50:24Sticker weather. All right, guys, this is the time we put a bow on this episode here and we put in order our top overall waiver wire ads.
50:32Jake, who's your number one waiver wire ad for this week?
50:35Yeah, it goes back to it. Like I'm actually, so I originally said who would be six, but I'm going to combo
50:42the first one and actually bring up who would be six, which is the exact sneak preview, the exact same one that Fitz has.
50:49But the Bigsby-Shipley thing. It's Bigsby if we knew he was okay, which it doesn't sound like it will be by the
50:55time or we'll know by the time you have to run waivers.
50:58So if not, it's Shipley. And let's just get the rest of your top five here.
51:03You said it's Stankinsby and Will Shipley up at the top.
51:06Who finishes out that list for you at the top?
51:09Tendro Miller because I'm just going to take the chance that he shows up somewhat tonight even in a 50-50 split and that would be intriguing for me.
51:17Trey Harris, I said that before, I would take him, but Keon Coleman right after him and then Keaton Mitchell would be
51:24fifth because everybody needs running backs and I think the only difference is we have one player that's different in our list
51:30between Fitz and I and Harris, he doesn't have and the running back, I'm like, nah, yeah, the lists are the same, just a different order here.
51:38So Fitz, why don't you give us your top five overall Wave of Wire as for the week?
51:43Well, it's Will Shipley at the top. I'm assuming Tank Bigsby won't play this week.
51:47Jalen Wright is actually number two for me. Still think he's a good speculative ad.
51:52Keon Coleman, number three. Kendra Miller, number four. He could be number one depending on how Monday night goes and then kind
51:58of a big drop off to Keaton Mitchell at number five, kind of in any port in a storm running back for people who've got bi issues.
52:06Well, there you have it, everybody. We gave you our top Wave of Wire ads going into week five, man.
52:12It feels like the season is going so fast but still slow at the same time and kind of ridiculous.
52:17But listen, if after Monday night you still have more questions about the Wave of Wire, don't forget, we've got our weekly
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52:30We'll be with you there every Tuesday at 3 p.m.
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52:36I think I'll double check who my partner is for that but for those listening on the podcast, just go to youtube.com
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