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Fantasy Football Advice LIVE! | DeVon Achane vs. Ashton Jeanty, Hero RB Strategy & Your BURNING Questions! (Ep, 2130)

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1 hr 5 min
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Aug 13, 2026
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Thu, August 13, 2026
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Brock BowersBucky IrvingChristian McCaffreyDrake MayeJayden DanielsJosh AllenPuka NacuaA.J. BrownAmon-Ra St. BrownAshton JeantyBaker MayfieldCarson BeckCeeDee LambChase Brown
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A.J. Brown

PositiveValue17:25

Despite some shakiness in camp, Brown is a recommended target at the turn in a hero RB build, with expectations for increased target volume in the Eagles' offense.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

PositiveValue6:53

Considered a safe first-round target from the six-spot, though George Pickens' presence on the team is noted as a potential cap on his upside.

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Ashton Jeanty

PositiveValue0:18

Ranked as RB6, Jeanty is considered the safer pick over DeVon Achane. He benefits from playing in an offense with Kirk Cousins, who is check-down friendly and capable of running a competent offense where running backs thrive.

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Baker Mayfield

PositiveValue43:56

Baker Mayfield is highlighted as being ranked too low by the market, making him a value target at the end of drafts.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveValue15:28

Bowers is identified as a tier-one tight end (1A grouping) and is worth the investment to gain a competitive edge over later-round options.

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PositiveValue26:47

In an auction keeper format with a $500 budget, keeping Brock Bowers at $41 is considered a no-brainer, providing value while allowing the manager to retain budget for the draft.

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NegativeValue58:56

Brock Bowers is viewed as a functional wide receiver for his team, but Kirk Cousins. He advises pushing his draft position back a few rounds compared to ECR rankings, as he shouldn't be taken over top-tier wide receivers.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveValue40:55

Bucky Irving is preferred over Toot as a late-round depth option, with Kirk Cousins. He expressing more comfort in his role despite having some reservations.

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NegativeDepth Chart60:51

Bucky Irving (referred to as JCM) is currently viewed as the starter in the backfield, though his role could be challenged by Rachaad White if pass protection becomes a priority.

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Carson Beck

PositiveValue51:36

Carson Beck is not recommended as a trade target in superflex leagues because the team is likely to draft a replacement unless he performs at an elite level.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveValue32:57

CeeDee Lamb is an elite dynasty asset. Trading him requires a massive return, such as a young wide receiver plus a first-round pick. Multiple first-round picks are often insufficient unless they are high-value selections.

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Chase Brown

NegativeProjection0:22

Brown is viewed as a low-end RB2 with a safe floor, but he lacks the top-five upside of Achane or Jeanty because Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins consume a high volume of touchdowns.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeInjury5:22

McCaffrey is dealing with tightness, and while not a cause for panic, his history of injuries following high-touch, outlier seasons makes him a riskier selection at the six-spot in drafts.

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PositiveProjection47:15

Christian McCaffrey is considered a lock in the top tier of draft assets, making him a player you should not pass up in the first round.

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Colston Loveland

NegativeValue62:30

Colston Loveland is featured in a promotional giveaway for the channel, highlighting his growing profile in the fantasy community.

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De'Von Achane

PositiveValue0:18

Ranked as RB9, Achane is a high-upside, riskier pick compared to Ashton Jeanty due to Miami's unstable quarterback situation, but he possesses massive talent and potential for a 100-reception season given the lack of receivers.

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Derrick Henry

PositiveValue8:25

Henry is a trustworthy RB1 and a great mid-second-round value. He is expected to have a better year than last season, provided Lamar Jackson remains healthy and the Ravens' offense improves under new coordination.

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Drake Maye

PositiveValue23:28

In a 10-team, two-keeper league, Drake Maye is a clear, high-upside play. Despite potential concerns about offensive efficiency regression, he is the preferred keeper over Jaden Daniels due to the latter's offensive line concerns.

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PositiveValue36:31

In a Superflex format, Drake Maye is the easiest keeper pick of all time. He should be prioritized in the first round of drafts.

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Jalen Hurts

PositiveValue57:44

Jalen Hurts is considered a safe-floor quarterback option; if he falls in drafts, he is worth taking over other mid-tier options like Caleb Williams or Trevor Lawrence.

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James Cook

NegativeValue13:24

While Cook has thrived in tandem with Josh Allen, it is recommended to diversify rosters by pivoting to other running backs like Saquon Barkley or Chase Brown rather than stacking him with Allen.

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Javonte Williams

PositiveValue23:58

Javonte Williams is a clear keeper play in 10-team, two-keeper formats. He is preferred over Tee Higgins, as the analysts view the two-keeper structure as similar to redraft, where Williams provides more immediate value.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeUsage8:45

Laramie Tunsil's injury may force Daniels to run more than desired, which could increase his injury risk, though his overall ranking remains unchanged.

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NegativeProjection58:04

Concerns regarding the loss of Laremy Tunsil on the offensive line have led to discussions about potentially ranking Jayden Daniels below Herbert and Trevor Lawrence.

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Jonathan Taylor

PositiveProjection43:01

Jonathan Taylor is considered a great player and a top-tier asset, though he is part of a combo that Kirk Cousins. He ranks behind Hampton and Cook.

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Josh Allen

PositiveProjection13:17

Allen is the clear, smash-pick answer for the first overall selection in a 10-team superflex league.

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PositiveValue39:08

In Superflex formats, the top three picks should be quarterbacks: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Drake Maye. Passing on a quarterback in the first round of a Superflex draft is discouraged.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveValue42:10

Kirk Cousins. He expresses no hesitation regarding Kenneth Walker's outlook this year, contrasting him with Travis Etienne, though they acknowledge that keeping him in the third round of a 10-team league is a poor value.

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Kyler Murray

PositiveValue43:56

Kyler Murray is noted as a value quarterback who can be acquired at the end of drafts, even in deeper formats, due to market mispricing.

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Malik Willis

PositiveValue43:56

Malik Willis is identified as a potential value quarterback target available at the end of drafts in deeper 16-team leagues.

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Parker Washington

PositiveBreakout50:44

Parker Washington is viewed as a comfortable WR3 target who could dominate targets in the Jacksonville offense, with Kirk Cousins. He comparing his potential role to that of Ladd McConkey.

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Puka Nacua

PositiveValue23:30

Nacua is considered one of the highest-ceiling players at his position and is a recommended keeper, even without a draft discount.

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PositiveValue29:07

Puka Nacua is the preferred keeper over Christian McCaffrey in any keeper format. Despite injury concerns, his upside and role make him the superior choice.

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Rachaad White

PositiveRole60:43

While Bucky Irving (JCM) is currently favored as the starter, Rachaad White could see increased usage due to his superior pass-blocking ability, especially if the offensive line struggles and the team is forced to play from behind.

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Raheem Mostert

NegativeUsage49:19

Kirk Cousins. He compares the current Miami backfield usage to how Mike McDaniel utilized Raheem Mostert previously, noting the potential for explosive plays but also the frustration of a multi-back committee.

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Rashee Rice

PositiveValue53:18

Rashee Rice is recommended as a keeper option in specific formats, with Kirk Cousins. He preferring him over other options in a tough decision.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveValue17:25

Barkley is recommended as the ideal start for a hero RB strategy when drafting from the 11th spot in a 12-team league.

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Terry McLaurin

PositiveValue11:47

McLaurin is considered a good value at his current ADP (WR22, pick 504), with his draft stock already adjusted for the Stefon Diggs signing.

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Travis Etienne

NegativeUsage41:55

There is concern regarding Travis Etienne's fantasy outlook due to Alvin Kamara potentially siphoning receiving work, which could relegate Etienne to a mediocre low-end RB2 role focused on early-down and goal-line work.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveValue26:04

Trevor Lawrence is a mandatory keeper at $16 in a $500 auction budget format, as his price point offers significant value compared to other options.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Call 1-800-GRANGER, click Grainger.com, or stop by.
0:04Grainger, for the ones who get it done. We might have someone else pop in in a little bit, but other than
0:11that, we can go ahead and dive in, guys.
0:13Excited to be here with you because we got questions right off the bat here.
0:18You guys came ready to go. All right. SGP237 says, Hey guys, Achan vs.
0:22Jenti. Need more clarification on this? Also, if these guys are ahead of other guys like Chase Brown and Hampton, do I prioritize Achan and Jenti first?
0:30So I do have both of these guys. Right off the bat, the second part of the question, I do have both
0:37of these guys ahead of Chase Brown and Hampton, not concerned about the funny Mike McDaniel quote of, you know, who knows who it's going to be.
0:45All three guys could have a big role here.
0:48It's Hampton is the RB1, right? I do like Keaton Mitchell, obviously.
0:51And, you know, Kamani Vidal is an excellent handcuff, but at the end of the day, high powered offense, he should have the goal line touches.
0:59I wouldn't panic too much about that. So he's not moved back in rankings whatsoever, but he's more in the low end RB1 area there.
1:06And then with a guy like Chase Brown, again, also low end RB2 kind of upper mid, we feel comfortable with it.
1:13But again, he doesn't have that same massive top five upside that Achan and Jenti have just based off pure volume and touchdown opportunities.
1:20Because as you guys know, obviously Jamar Chase and T Higgins consume just the dumbest amount of touchdowns humanly possible there.
1:27So they're very safe fix. But I do prioritize the other two ahead of them.
1:31So when it comes to Achan and Jenti, it is 100% about the risk level that you want to take.
1:37Because while both of these are not excellent offenses, obviously people have the perception that Achan's offense in Miami is going to
1:44be a tear down from Jenti just because of the whole quarterback situation.
1:48And, you know, we know exactly what we're getting with Kirk Cousins.
1:51He is check down friendly. He can run a competent offense where a running back can thrive.
1:56We saw it with B. John Robinson last year.
1:59So it's not that big of a deal. We know what we're getting in terms of an upgrade and coaching, obviously.
2:05So it's more of a riskier situation, but not as risky just because we have a nice little baseline in terms of
2:12what it looks like in a bad offense and everything that surrounds it.
2:16Right. With Achan, I am very pro Achan. I personally have him ranked higher than Jenti.
2:20I do not believe that consensus in this is the same.
2:24I will double check real quick just what the gap on those two is.
2:28It is three right now. It's separating a little bit here.
2:31Jenti is at RB6, Achan at RB9. So safer pick there is Jenti.
2:35But if you do want to get risky with me, you want to get risky?
2:40Achan is my preference there, but you have to understand the level of risk you're taking on with the quarterback situation being unstable.
2:47I like Malik Willis, but it's entirely possible that it comes to a Justin Fields type of situation.
2:52So just risk tolerance there. Safer pick, higher ranking in ECR is Jenti.
2:56Riskier pick, but obviously high talent level upside there in the ability to potentially have a 100 perception season with the lack of receivers there with Achan.
3:04Very good question there. Appreciate that there from USGP.
3:07Now we've got from Jess Dabs. Love y'all. Got my premium sub three days ago.
3:11Nice. Thank you. Thank you for that. Best advice on the six spot draft order.
3:16Yes, that is a very interesting one, right? Because often that six spots comes down to whether or not you want to
3:22take one of the receivers that is not named Pukanikua and Jamar Chase, or if you want to dive into the Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor area.
3:30Christian McCaffrey dealing with some tightness, right? We're not panicking right now, but it is a good reminder that whenever he has
3:37come off of these high massive upside outlier high touch seasons, he has dealt with a lot of injuries.
3:42So I am apprehensive when you have that six spot to really lean into Christian McCaffrey there.
3:47If you want to, fine. It is just a little bit riskier in terms of not just like, you know, like when
3:54we're talking about Ash, when we're talking about Devon Achan, it's a risk of maybe his ceiling is capped because the offense is not good.
4:01When we're talking about Christian McCaffrey, the risk would be the level of elevated injury risk that we're dealing with just from him on a historical standpoint there.
4:10So I tend to avoid that one. My preference in that area is to go with either Jackson Smith and Jigba or Amunra St.
4:17Brown, whoever is available in that part right there, just because those are kind of the tier breakoffs there right there with Amon-Ra St.
4:24Brown Brown, maybe pushing out the seedy limb a little bit, right?
4:28But the presence of George Pickens kind of caps his upside.
4:31But those are the two that I feel super safe with to give me very solid type top five production.
4:37So if they're available in the first round, I'm walking away with one of the first four.
4:42And then I'll come around to the second and I'll grab a running back because we're extremely deep at running back in terms of true RB ones.
4:50So I feel very comfortable with drafting one of the guys.
4:54We talked about the potential there for guys like what we were just talking about, Achan and Jinty probably going to be gone there.
5:01Although Achan can slide a little bit, but that's an area for Hampton.
5:05You could go to a Derrick Henry. That is perfectly fine with the bounce back of the Baltimore Ravens there to lean on him as an RB one.
5:13So there are options that you can go with as an RB one.
5:17So I like to lean into receiver from that spot, that mid spot there.
5:21Good, very specific draft spot question there. Next question here from L.
5:25Dauphin 34. How will Laramie Tunsil's injury affect how you draft people like Jaden Daniels, the three-headed monster running back committee there, and even Terry McLaurin?
5:32That is a good question. I was actually just talking about, I just did a show, it would be on YouTube like
5:39tomorrow or so, with Debro and Erickson. And we were just talking about that Laramie Tunsil injury potentially affecting how things happened
5:46there, specifically with the running back position. Because I have been feeling very positive about the news that we've been getting regarding
5:52Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt, the leaps that he's been making from pass protection and receiving upside.
5:56Like, okay, I'm hearing positive news. You knew you had to work on it.
6:01I feel good about it, right? But at the end of the day, if this offensive line isn't going to be what
6:07they thought it was, did he improve enough to the level where they really trust him on a regular basis to protect Jaden Daniels?
6:14Or do they lean on the known of Rashad White and the fact that he is an excellent blocker?
6:20So I think the effect here, obviously, on Jaden Daniels will be there if the offensive line trickles down a little bit.
6:27But it might be the most dramatic effect. We're not going to move Jaden Daniels down for that, but the most dramatic
6:33effect might be that it maybe gives a little bit of a boost there to Rashad White if he needs to be on the field more.
6:41Kind of similar to what we saw last year in the NFL playoffs with Ramondre Stevenson getting the edge over Travion Henderson
6:48when they got into the tougher playoff schedule and the offensive line was struggling there and they needed somebody in there who
6:54could truly be reliable from a pass blocking perspective.
6:57So I wonder if we could see that a little bit.
7:00Don't overreact right now, but just keep your eye on that and see if that's going to be something that maybe kind
7:07of tilts the snap count a little bit. And then for Terry McLaurin, I've already seen him moving back look just a tiny bit.
7:14But I don't think we need to push him back more because of the offensive line injury, because we're getting already enough
7:21pushback because of the Stephon Diggs signing there. So he'll probably still be a good value.
7:25Terry McLaurin is currently at wide receiver 22 pick 504.
7:28It's not so bad. He's coming in, you know, just ahead of Devontae Adams.
7:33Who else is there? Mike Evans, Luther Burden. Obviously, the Luther Burden injury is probably counteracting any real big effect that we would see with Terry McLaurin there.
7:41So really, I think it might affect the running back position the most there.
7:45Maybe Jaden Daniels has to run a little bit more than they like, increase the injury risk.
7:50But that would be the one that I would be primarily concerned with there.
7:54From Kyle, 5503, thank you for the super chat.
7:5710 team, super flex, one pick here. I have the first pick.
8:01Is Josh Allen the clear answer? Mox to where I keep getting Josh Allen, James Cook, Brock Bowers thoughts.
8:06Hmm. I don't know. So yes, Josh Allen is the correct answer.
8:10First pick. Take it. Smash. Smash. You know, you'll feel super comfortable all season long.
8:14I don't know that I would stack it up with James Cook because it's not a bad thing, right?
8:20Because obviously they have thrived in tandem. He has finished as a clear RB1 with Josh Allen, finishing as the overall QB1.
8:27So it's not a massive issue, right? But I do like to diversify a little bit there.
8:32So honestly, I would just pivot towards from James Cook over to a, you know, a Saquon, a, you know, Adrian, if
8:38you want, a Maureen Hampton, something like that. Chase Brown would be my preferred pivot there versus doubling up there.
8:44So I don't have a major issue with that, but just to diversify a little bit for sure.
8:50But yes, Josh Allen for sure. Brock Bowers for sure.
8:53And maybe just diversify a little bit there with James Cook.
8:56Another super chat here from Coke Butter Cheese. Oh, Coke Butter Cheese.
9:00Now I'm hungry. I haven't had lunch yet. Thank you.
9:03Thoughts on drafting an elite tight end in 10-man PPR.
9:06I agree with it. Yeah. You know, and especially as you, you know, when it comes to the kind of those onesie positions, right?
9:13As the league gets a little smaller, I know it feels like, hey, I can push it back further.
9:19And it's not always the wrong thing to do, right?
9:22But I do feel like we've got a very hard cliff in terms of, you know, tier one and two guys, right?
9:28And the 1A and 1B grouping, that being Brock Bowers, Trey McBride is the 1A, and then the 1B being Colston Loveland and Tyler Warren.
9:36I think it's worth it to invest in that just to give you an edge because the amount of output that you're
9:42getting from those guys compared to the amount of output that you will be getting if you push it back and you're
9:49like trying to go with retread Travis Kelsey, right?
9:52Or something like that, or even pushing it back further.
9:55I don't think it's necessary. I think it's worth it to invest in the high end option for sure.
10:00Let's do another super chat here from God willing.
10:03Full point PPR with pick 11 out of 12.
10:06Assuming these guys are all available. Should I go hero RB with Saquon and take AJ Brown on the turn or double up at RB with Chase Brown?
10:14They're both viable, right? My preference though, and I don't like, I don't hate doubling up on running back, but again, we
10:21are seeing those, we are seeing those kind of wide receiver 18-ish to 22-ish range getting those injuries with Luther Burden.
10:27Again, Emeka Buka got a injury, was limping off the field.
10:30Then we'll have to find out more information about that.
10:33Obviously we know that Luther Burden is going to be out for the entire preseason, supposedly ready for week one.
10:39That's a very specific timeline. We'll see. But with that getting a little bit shakier there, I'm okay.
10:45My preference is a hero RB strategy. I think Saquon is a perfect way to start off and AJ Brown is perfectly fine at the turn as well.
10:53So I'm pro that strategy. Um, but I will never tell anyone not to double up at RB just because of the level of depth that we have.
11:01I mean, you just, the upside that you're getting with both of those insane.
11:05I know people might be feeling a certain type of way in terms of worrying about AJ Brown, who is, you know,
11:12obviously been a little bit shakier in camp, but the upside is still there.
11:16We should see an increase in target volume from the Patriots in general.
11:20So I like that strategy of going hero RB with Saquon and then AJB.
11:24I do one more super chat here from Grant Carlson.
11:27Hey Tara, how do you adjust your draft strategy in an eight team PPR league?
11:32Do you still like waiting on quarterback and anybody else who gains or loses priority?
11:36So my family league has been eight team for four years now.
11:40We have some cousins we could theoretically add in, but you know, you never trust them to show up on draft day.
11:47So we keep it to our nice core eight that always shows up there.
11:51And I do 100% push quarterback back every single time.
11:54It's not even close. I will even wait. Cause you know, sometimes when you're in eight league, you can get some sideways
12:00picks that might make it a little weird if somebody starts doubling up on quarterback early, but still, I mean, we've got
12:07a nice buffer when we're talking about the fact that.
12:10I mean, even when you push back to QB 10, you're still in that Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy range, a Bo Nix, even after that, quite frankly.
12:18Um, I don't think that it is entirely necessary.
12:21Again, we've talked about, um, all of the injuries that are going on.
12:25The fact that we want to be strong at running back at the very least going with a hero RB, um, making
12:31sure that you don't fall too far off that cliff around, you know, RB 24, which is kind of like the David Montgomery area.
12:38So pushing back quarterback does allow you to kind of dip in there.
12:42And it also would allow you to kind of take an elite tight end as well.
12:47We talked about, you know, a lot of times pushing back tight end feels like the better strategy to go.
12:53I actually prefer to push back tight end in deeper leagues, but the more that the roster pushes out, you get additional flex spots in there.
13:01An additional wide receiver can make the tight end position a little bit less impactful there.
13:06So when it gets to the smaller leagues, I'm okay with, you know, shooting for the moon and going for a Brock
13:12Bowers or Trey McBride, Colson Loveland, and then pushing quarterback back.
13:15So that is how it adjusts a little bit there for me.
13:19It's definitely quarterback. That is the one that is panning back for me for sure.
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14:02All right, let's go ahead and dive back into the questions.
14:05Guys. I'm going to go here to Steven Traub, 12 team league, 15 round draft.
14:10We have two keepers from last year. Would you keep Puka Nakua and Brock Bowers in one and two?
14:16I mean, you know, we're not getting a discount there, but that's okay.
14:20That's okay. I mean, they are literally the highest ceiling players at each of the positions.
14:24So I'm perfectly okay with that. Right. It doesn't, it doesn't always have to be a clear value pick.
14:30I know we, you know, have the potential of legal action with Pukenikua, but at the end of the day, we still
14:37want to lean into our high end upside players until we know something very certain.
14:41From arrow phobia. How do we feel about Derrick Henry this year compared to Chase Brown?
14:46And should I trade Henry and Judkins for Chase and Pollard?
14:49I have Javante at RB2 in my 12 team PPR.
14:52I'm assuming that you're wanting to trade now. So I'm going to assume it's dynasty.
14:57But let's tackle the Derrick Henry portion first there.
14:59I feel good about Derrick Henry. At the end of the day, Derrick Henry is one of those guys that like, when
15:06I talk about, it's funny when I talk about like worrying about Christian McCaffrey and the increased injury risk and regression, right?
15:13A lot of people say, you always say that about him and Derrick Henry.
15:17Never once would I ever say that about Derrick Henry.
15:20I'm convinced at this point that Derrick Henry will just retire on his own after a 1500 guard 15 touchdown season.
15:26And he'll just be like, you know what? I just want to go spend some time with my family.
15:32And that'll be the end of it there. Um, so I like Derrick Henry for a better year, obviously than we had
15:38last year, because again, some of the downturn in production and really what kind of downturn was there was still an overall excellent year.
15:46We know the downturn was the fact that the Ravens offense struggled there a little bit with Lamar Jackson dealing with the injury.
15:52And, you know, unfortunately if the Ravens team is playing from behind struggling, it kind of nullifies some of the effect of Derrick Henry there, right?
16:00Because he doesn't have the passing upside when they're playing from behind, he can't get the 20 carries, 100 yards, right?
16:06But healthy Lamar Jackson, and obviously injuries do always occur, but healthy Lamar Jackson, new offensive coordinator, no offense to Todd Monk.
16:13And I love him, but I am excited to also see what Declan Doyle brings to this offense as well.
16:19So I do feel very secure about Derrick Henry.
16:22Um, kind of like I have him, I want to say RB 12 is specific.
16:26It's a 12 or 13. I can't remember the exact number, um, mid round, uh, second round pick there.
16:32Great value, trustworthy RB one, a guy that you can count on to be on the field.
16:37So I feel good about him compared to chase Brown.
16:40I do have chase Brown higher just because the, you know, passing upside there and the fact that they at the Cincinnati
16:47Bengals at the very least, we don't have to worry about the Joe burrow injury potential there because of the fact that they did retain Joe Flacco.
16:55All of that nonsense that we had at the beginning of the season, that was purely issues that were going on with Jake Browning.
17:02Once we got Joe Flacco in there, chase Brown was perfectly fine.
17:05So, um, I have no worry about if we were to have burrow go down with another injury, right?
17:11We'd be good with Joe Flacco on roster. So he's very safe.
17:15So I do have chase Brown higher than Derrick Henry.
17:18Honestly, they have about the same ceiling. Really? Obviously if things go terrifically, terrific on the highest extent, Derrick Henry does have
17:24the potential to finish as the overall RB one chase Brown can't quite get there, but I think we're a little past
17:31that in terms of the context of the Ravens offense in the upside that he has.
17:36So same ceiling, safer floor for chase Brown. So that's my preference there.
17:40And then should you trade Henry and Judkins for chase Brown and Pollard?
17:44And you have Javante as your RB too. I feel in a 12 team PPR.
17:48I feel like that's, I'm okay with that. My only concern with that is that we don't chase Brown is in a
17:55contract year and while he could get franchise tag, right?
17:58We don't exactly know what the future would 100% hold for him.
18:01So that does always make me just a little bit apprehensive when we would have running back switching teams.
18:07So just, I'm okay with that, but just keep in mind, um, from a long-term dynasty perspective that that can be an issue.
18:14Um, moving on here to the next question, we've got edge of wetness.
18:18Which teams are most likely to significantly raise pace of play as in percentage, which OCs are superior to elevating quarterback, passing game performance.
18:25And how real is that from Chisholm the third?
18:28Okay. Let's talk. Well, you know, real is, I don't, I don't think we're getting there with him, but when I'm looking
18:34at teams that could raise pace of play here, obviously the big one that we have to look at is the LA chargers, right?
18:41Um, and we all know that we love the potential there.
18:45Um, but yeah, the LA chargers is the one for sure that I feel will raise pace of play.
18:50We know Mike McDaniel is going to be friendly from that perspective.
18:54We also have the, um, again, it's just like we've got, um, while Keenan Allen is exiting, we've got Trey Harris coming in.
19:01So we're three deep at wide receiver. The run game should be awesome.
19:05Three deep at running back as well. So I think that one's really the one that we key in on.
19:11I mean, walk away from every single draft, um, trying to walk away with some charger in one shape or form.
19:17You want to be invested in that offense. And then one that is not, um, and this is not an OC thing,
19:24um, but just one that I want to point out in general, um, and not a change, but, um, don't forget about the new Orleans saints.
19:31The run game is, uh, potentially going to be a mess here.
19:35So not cap or like, you know, not promoting for Travis Etienne or, uh, Alvin Kamara, but specifically with the wide receivers
19:42and Tyler Shuck, we know that pace of play and just passing, uh, attempts in general is pushed aggressively by Kellen Moore.
19:48This'll be the first time that we'll have a full season here under Tyler Shuck.
19:53So that one is another one to watch out for in terms of those offensive weapons and receivers getting a good bump here.
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22:00When Welsh is actually there, I'm dumb. You're smart.
22:02You are all better than me. This is my big daddy bit.
22:06Yeah, I completely, completely was MIA, but I am here now.
22:09Great job holding down the fort. I will let you get back into the analyst chair and we can get up all the great questions for Tara.
22:17I will have my pieces in, you know, when I'm here.
22:21So shame, shame. Give me the shame. Give me the bells.
22:24You're here now. Give me the things. I am here.
22:27Great job. Thanks for everybody hanging with here. Let's get to some questions that I can present to you.
22:33I'm like, Arizona, I was booking. I was booking.
22:35Yeah. Booking to get up here. So shout out to all my people for holding you guys down.
22:41We got super chat. Let's see. This is from Cameron.
22:44Moved a late 27-1 and a late 27-2 for Tedaroa McMillan.
22:47He's my number three behind JSN and Neighbors. Humble brag.
22:50With Flowers is my four. Well, Flowers, you're third, dude.
22:53You're starting nine. Still have five more 27-1s. Dude.
22:56And two more 27 seconds. What's the question? You're amazing.
22:59You're doing an amazing job. This is like the greatest Dynasty rebuild, if that's what it is.
23:04I have questions for you, Cameron. How did you get five 27-1s?
23:07How is that possible? How did you get five 27-1s when you have JSN, Neighbors, Flowers, and Tedaroa McMillan?
23:13If you guys can find the question. I don't know what the question is.
23:17Great job. Tara, do you want to say nice things about Cameron?
23:21Yeah. I say all nice things. Congrats. Bratz, you've got Ascending Flowers there and a new contract.
23:26You got Ted there. Yeah. I mean, you're just stacked.
23:29Good on you, dude. All right. Humble brat. You're doing great.
23:32You're doing great, brother. Let us know if there's more questions in there.
23:36All right. Let's get back to the queue. 10-team full PPR, two player keeper league.
23:41Keep two of the following four. May, Drake May, Daniels.
23:44Did he say? It's not a super flex. I don't know why Daniels and May.
23:48So one of them, Higgins, Javante Williams, Eileen Daniels and Higgins.
23:51But what say you? Cheers from Regina. So two player keeper.
23:55It looks like it's between the quarterbacks. And I mean, I'm taking Javante Williams here.
23:59So I'm a little confused. What say you? Which quarterback?
24:02And then which position player are you going with?
24:05Yeah. You know, I'm opposite on it. I'm going with May.
24:08I get why you maybe you're worried about some regression there because it was a highly efficient driven year.
24:14Right. But I think there's a higher ceiling there.
24:16And as we kind of talked about a couple questions ago, you know, Washington just took a big hit on the offensive line.
24:23So it's possible that that could have some kind of negative effect for the offense.
24:28We saw how a shaky offensive line was not beneficial last year.
24:31So I still lean towards May on that one.
24:34And then I think I'm with you in terms of preferring Javante over Higgins.
24:38But also, are you beholden to have to keep a quarterback because you could just go Higgins and Javante.
24:44And then, you know. You really want to do that, bro?
24:47You really want to keep Higgins in a two key when I'm playing in like deeper, like dynasty is like a different ballgame.
24:54There's like levels to it. It's like there's dynasty.
24:57There's the versions of keeper. And then keeper can have, you know, let's say it's eight, four.
25:02When you get to two, this is my main point.
25:05When I'm only keeping two players, I play it like redraft.
25:08And like this is clearly Drake May to me.
25:11Drake May is a clear play. And Javante Williams is a clear play.
25:15You don't have like a cool young guy to kind of sit and progress over.
25:19Like why would I want Higgins is the furthest down on this list.
25:23If this were eight keepers, it's a different discussion.
25:26I'm going to play out a 10 team two keeper like redraft.
25:30And that's how I'm going to approach it. I assumed it was T Higgins and not Jaden.
25:35Oh, yeah. Well, same. Well, I guess same thing.
25:37I was going Jaden, to be honest with you.
25:40T, yeah, then I guess maybe I would go May and T Higgins.
25:44That's another me dumb situation. So I've been thinking Jaden Higgins.
25:47Well, I was, I was on Jaden Higgins because I just did the tailgate before I disappeared for a little bit.
25:54And we were talking Texans and we were talking Higgins and Higgins was in my brain.
25:58So yeah, good point. So this is why T is always in my brain.
26:02So I can't help it. My KI second pick 10 team PPR, two running backs, wide receivers, two running backs and wide
26:09receivers, tight end quarterback and a flex. Uh, if running back in round one and Bowers in round two, should I aim
26:16for another running back or a wide receiver in the early third round?
26:20The league trends to drafting, uh, running backs early.
26:22You're welcome. I get it. I know why you would want to potentially grab your other, your second running back there, but
26:29I mean, you're coming off your second pick there.
26:32So you're coming off with your preference of Jameer and Bijon.
26:35I think you can push it a little bit, get your wide receiver one there, and then push running back, back one more round there.
26:42You'll be okay. I'm with you. Uh, super chat, a steam auction, super flex PPR with additional flex.
26:48We've got a $500 budget with 175 on the keeper budget.
26:51Keep Walker at 70. Ken Walker. Ted Arroyo McMillan at 49.
26:54Bowers at 41. Or keep Trevor Lawrence at 16.
26:57Instead of walk and have more money for the draft.
27:00339 versus 394. So. So Trevor, you got to keep Trevor Lawrence.
27:04Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so I think, okay. So the real question looks like I was having a problem trying to decipher this.
27:10Is he talking about not keeping Walker? So he's got a higher budget in the auction.
27:15Cause Walker, that price seems like pretty high, but you do have to like, cause what like normal auction prices anywhere from like two 60 to 300.
27:23So like a 30, $40 Walker probably does become like 60, anywhere from, I guess, 60 to 70.
27:28And like this type of a 500 budget format.
27:31I don't know. I'm a little torn. If I want to keep Walker, he seems pricey.
27:36The others seem like absolute no brainers, but what's the you?
27:39Yeah. I'm with you. I think I'm going Trevor for sure.
27:43Right. And then Brock. Yeah. Brock at 41. I don't, I don't mind that at all.
27:47I get it. You save the money there. Um, have a little bit more for your budget.
27:52Yeah. I'm okay with that. Do you think you can get Ken Walker back for around that price?
27:58Yeah. They're deep at, very deep at RB one.
28:00I can see a reality where this year your low end RB ones can come in with a little bit of more value there.
28:08So yeah, I think, I think he can make it work.
28:11Yeah. And I think like, what's the top end of running backs in this format price wise at a $500 budget?
28:1790 bucks. 90 maybe. Right. You're not going to go to like a hundred.
28:21You're not going to necessarily go. I mean, I guess like a fifth of the budget to a star running back is potential, but I don't know.
28:30I think I'm going to kick Walker back. I'm going to take some more budget and I'm going to keep a law of hours and Tedrow McMillan.
28:38So yeah, very good. Very good. Super chat. Appreciate your super chat.
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28:58You get to be first up here. But next up is Matt 10 team PPR keeper league.
29:03We are keeping Jamar chase have to pick one Nakua or CMC.
29:07Other keepers are Gibbs, Robinson, Taylor and cook to Jason St.
29:10Brown lamb and Jefferson golf Tara. I know you said Nakua, but did you see saying he has all of these and
29:17the way you guys are writing some of these is like, so it's hard to like fully follow.
29:22It sounds like you literally have every single running back in every single wide receiver.
29:27So good on you. Puka Nakua in any type of keeper format over CMC is just the play.
29:32I think regardless of the scares as far as like whatever stupid suspension would happen, he got out of the injury scare.
29:39I'm a big CMC guy, but in this format, like how do you not keep Puka Nakua?
29:44Yeah, I'm the same way there. I know. I know the information makes us a little bit nervous there, but I'm still
29:50going with Puka until we get anything more solidified there.
29:53So I'm still going with Puka on that one for sure.
29:57Okay. Going Puka, uh, SGP 18 PPR with the one Oh three Puka round one, which two running backs Barkley Walker, Henry
30:03Chase Brown Hampton and two wide receivers for rounds two through five.
30:07So let's start with the two running backs, uh, that work.
30:10I don't know if he wants us to like give the choices of which running backs to target.
30:16I mean, I'm going to target like the highest in guys.
30:19And I think probably would go chase Brown and Barkley.
30:22I think Hampton is right there. Um, I would leave Henry and Walker behind, but what say you, if you could have two of those running backs?
30:30Yeah. Like if I'm trying to imagine how this could play out, Barkley would be my first choice there.
30:36Um, and then quite frankly, you know, you could, and then my second one after that in terms of ranking would be chase Brown too.
30:43So I would be skipping over those two and go chase Brown and doubling up there.
30:48And that is probably going to mean that you more than likely miss out on Nico maybe and AJB theoretically.
30:54So if we've got to play this game where he's saying two through five, and we're going to have to start like
31:00forecasting, that's just going to make this more difficult because the wide receivers Collins, AJ Brown, flowers pickings and Devonta Smith.
31:07Like, I don't know, like everybody you just listed is a second and third round player.
31:12So I, I mean, I guess it's 18, like Devonta Smith is going to move down flowers probably moves to the fourth.
31:18So I guess I would do like either Barkley or Brown maybe in the second and then go with the best of
31:25AJ Brown or Collins in the third. And then the fourth, I think I would probably get hyper-focused on the wide receivers if flowers or pickings are there.
31:33So then assuming the fifth, if a Walker Henry is there, that's how I would take that.
31:38That, that would be my trying to forecast this.
31:41Where do you disagree or agree? Mine would be with Puka with taking Puka.
31:45I would just go ahead and do Barkley and Brown.
31:48And then I would bypass Collins and AJB and go with, you know, Devonta pickings flowers with my priority.
31:54Hopefully we, I mean, like we can't predict exactly how they're going to go, but that's the general range.
31:59I mean, if I'm ranking it, I think again, if the tier is Hampton Brown and Barkley, that's your running back tier.
32:06And then your wide receiver tier is Collins Brown and pickings.
32:09Maybe not in that order. So, you know, take it from there.
32:13Good questions. You guys are rocking that. All right.
32:16Connor Garrett Wilson, Jamison Williams and Javante or Drake London and Kyron Williams.
32:20So a little bit of depth over maybe the top flight players.
32:23London's the best receiver. Kyron's the best running back here and is giving up the two best pieces worth.
32:29Or James Williams. I would go with the high end guys personally.
32:32I would go with London and Kyron, but I don't know.
32:36James Williams is not a throwaway. Yeah. I think I lean towards the Drake London Kyron side just because I do think
32:42Kyron or Drake London ultimately probably the highest upside of this entire group though.
32:47Yeah. Good question. Good question. Connor Ben rebuilding dynasty team.
32:50What should I ask for lamb and Stafford? Probably not a ton for Stafford, but you can ask for the relative moon in a dynasty.
32:57What what's like a relative range you would try to go with, with lamb?
33:01Oh, with lamb, Sam, I roster lamb and dynasty and I have not attempted to sell him on that one, but yeah,
33:08I think that Stafford maybe adds in just a little bit of a kicker, but with lamb, if you're trying to flip
33:14and get younger, I mean, I would honestly ask for a couple of firsts and a throw in as well.
33:20In addition to that, just for five, two thousand first, like that one guy, is that what could you get?
33:26Yeah. Yeah. Could we, could we, I don't think we can.
33:30Yeah. I would say at least this is where I struggle with, um, and I've been playing dynasty for 15 years, I think in football, 20 in baseball.
33:38I struggle with the selling off of young enough elite players.
33:41Cause I tend to think in three year windows.
33:44And I think there's a big mat. The difference I think that happens in fantasy baseball, the football is fantasy football.
33:50There's a grander, uh, scope that's looked at where baseball, I think you'll get hyper focused on three year windows.
33:56When you start talking about trading a guy like lamb, who's young enough to be elite for many years still is a wide receiver.
34:03So it's going to last longer. And you talk about trades being centered around first round picks.
34:09It just doesn't get me super excited. Obviously the translation of first round picks in dynasty for football, you usually get immediate production.
34:15But if those picks are like the seventh, you know, the, the seventh and the 10th or a seven, uh, overall this year.
34:22And then like a 10, the following year, that's not, that's a nothing burger to me.
34:27So I really have a, I have a struggle dominating a trade, like, like lamb around that.
34:32Now I would love a young wide receiver and like a first round pick.
34:36Like that would get me a little bit more excited.
34:39Cause I want like a guy that I can bank on, you know, I don't know in dynasty, if you could get
34:46a Tyson or tape, but you should be able to ask for that in a first round pick.
34:51So that's like the round, that's where I'm always going to push back on these types of trades where if it's like,
34:58Hey, I'm getting two firsts and I'm getting, you know, tank Dell for lamb.
35:02That doesn't do anything for me because I want to win in the more immediate.
35:07And those picks, obviously if you get like a top two or three pick, usually in dynasty you're getting this year, it
35:13was, you know, love Tyson and tape. That's great.
35:16But outside of that, the production gets a little bit wonky.
35:19So I'm usually never going to do those multiple first round picks or a first and a second.
35:25And then like a, whatever player, uh, for a guy like lamb who is elite in his own right.
35:30Yeah. That makes sense. Okay. And you guys can disagree.
35:33I'd be curious what you guys think in the comments about that.
35:37Uh, all right. Super chat Nate, uh, super flex to running back to wide receiver tight end and a flex.
35:43We've got half PPR and a keeper pick two we've got.
35:46So this is where I'm going to get back into kind of like redraft mode a little bit.
35:52Uh, Drake may at 12. We've got, you tell me, is that Javante or Jamison Williams?
35:56There's two, a couple of J wills in the league.
35:59I'm going to assume Javante. It's Jaden Higgins. All right.
36:02We'll say, uh, we got Mononga in the eighth.
36:05We've got Zay in the third. It is Javante.
36:08That would have been his last year. Javante in the eighth makes sense.
36:12Okay. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Zay in the third.
36:15Uh, I guess Tyler Warren in the seventh, Roman, the fifth Corum in the eighth, Dobbins in the eighth and, uh, Jacoby Myers in the 10th.
36:23So you can only pick two of these players.
36:25Where are you going? Cool. I Jake May is the easiest pick of all time, by the way.
36:31It's super flex. Yeah. Super flex. Oh yeah. Yeah.
36:34Super flex. Okay. Drake may. And the other one I was looking at was Warren in the seventh.
36:39I'm kind of, I don't hate that. I think that one, I want to say, say, but I don't like the Zay third round cost Roman.
36:47The spot. I might go back to Javante to be honest with you.
36:51It's not bad. Honestly, that was the other one I was torn between again.
36:55Like I want to play like this is redraft and you're getting like a top 15 back and you're getting, um, uh,
37:01a top three quarterback and you're not wasting your top seven picks.
37:05So that's what I think that's what I'm going to do.
37:08I just don't think any of those others are like so good where I'm like, Ooh, I'll go to form in the eight.
37:15You know, like none of those Warren is I'm, I'm, I, if you wanted to go Warren, that's okay because you are
37:22sending a tight end and you're only starting the two wide receivers with one flex.
37:26But I think I lean Javante a little bit because I think it helps you now.
37:31I think it's reasonable. Yeah. There's an agreement right there.
37:34So Javante with us and confirmation. All right. Metal James.
37:37I'm pick three out of eight in my redraft.
37:40This is superplex full PPR. I'm guessing it's either Bijan Gibbs or chase.
37:44If chase falls to me, should I go running back high in tight end next or vice versa?
37:49Yes. Yeah, for sure. I think that's the direction to go.
37:52If chase does fall to you, go ahead and grab a high end running back.
37:57And then do you like going like a Bowers or McBride after that?
38:01Yeah, I don't mind it. We had another eight team question earlier about high end tight ends.
38:06And I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it to grab one of those top three for sure.
38:12I'm like a Warren guy though. So we're talking before like, yeah, well, and also this is eight team.
38:17So there is an advantage if you get one of the elite tight ends, like the production advantage you can have on
38:24one of the top three or four over what the rest of the league is, but they're all going to have solid tight ends.
38:31So in an eight team, you can still fill out your other positions.
38:35I, I don't want to commit to tight end next because I got to be honest with you.
38:41I feel like that second round dude could be a monster.
38:44You know what I'm saying? Like that might be a monster.
38:47And by the way, here's the other thing I just realized we just glossed over.
38:52He said super flex full PPR and he says, B.
38:55John Gibbs and chase brother. That's not how super flex top three picks is going to go or should.
39:00Oh, that's right. I wasn't comprehending that the first three picks in a super flex should be Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Drake may most likely.
39:08So, uh, if you are pick three, you should get one of those great running backs if you want.
39:14And I think you can't. So let me ask you this.
39:17Can you stomach taking a B genre Gibbs, not taking a quarterback.
39:21And then in the second round in a super flex, when you could have had Lamar Drake may, you still have a
39:27great quarterback, but you're just going to have probably like Justin Herbert or, or, I mean, you might even have that by
39:34the way, but like, if you're lucky, you've got like a Herbert, maybe it's Purdy or something like that.
39:40Would you want to do that? I can't do it.
39:43Especially if I've gotten early pick because you never know with your, unless you know, no, no, your league mates, you never
39:49know if all of a sudden they'll get quarterback happy and start like just drafting quarterback after quarterback after quarterback.
39:55So now I I'm walking away with one in the first.
39:58Hat tip to you guys, by the way, the amount of super flex leagues that are being played now is crazy.
40:05Like it, like every other question is super flex.
40:07So hat tip to all of you guys. I want to remind you, we got a 20 minute, I mean, I feel obligated.
40:14I should probably stick around a little bit longer.
40:17I want to keep Seth for, for my snafu today.
40:20But as we still got some time, if you guys want to jump the line, because there is only so much time
40:27left in here, you guys can use super chats to get your questions in.
40:31If you want to make sure they get answered, because we got a bunch of in here, we got a big old queue of questions.
40:38We're definitely going to try to get to as many as possible.
40:42But in this last little bit, if you've got to have something answered, well drop that super chat and we'll make sure
40:48to get it just like Nate had done. Nate was the most recent there.
40:53So drop those in and we'll rock with you.
40:55All right, let's go to in a pinch. Keep tooting for a six or Bucky for a six.
41:01Bucky. I mean, I, and I, and yeah, and I'm like, you know, I have my feelings about Bucky, but I feel more comfortable with Bucky than toot.
41:09And I can at least admit that. Bucky answers Bucky for me.
41:13Eric, 10 team PPR planning on keeping Etienne in the eighth.
41:16But is there any reason to keep Ken Walker in the third instead?
41:20I don't love that value, but I don't love Etienne as well.
41:23You don't love the value of Walker, you mean?
41:26Yeah. Yeah, it's a horrible value. Yeah. But I'm not, I'm worried about Etienne as well.
41:31So yeah, just go ahead and go with Etienne.
41:34I just don't want to roster him. I'm getting concerned.
41:37I mean, that's fine. But like if the options are those two, like Etienne in the eighth, there's a lot more you can do.
41:44I mean, if it's 10 team. And if you guys are, I mean, I'm just assuming this, you're only keeping one.
41:50There's going to be amazing players that are going to be available and people are going to have high picks.
41:56Is it really worth it to like keep Walker at cost?
41:59Third round is like cost in the 10 team league.
42:02I would much rather take the shot on Etienne, even if you're worried at such a lower cost.
42:08Yeah. I get the hesitation on both. I'm not.
42:10And that's the funny thing. I don't have hesitation on Ken Walker this year.
42:15I have some about Etienne. Well, like what's the level of worry?
42:18Like why you think, uh, is it an offensive based thing?
42:22Is it really Camara that's making you kind of scared of Etienne?
42:25Yeah, it's really Camara. And it's not that I think Camara is going to be usable remotely for our purposes, but if
42:32he is taking away that receiving work and we've got to rely on Etienne, um, for early down and goal line.
42:38Well, I feel positive about the new Orleans offense progressing in a positive direction.
42:42How much goal line opportunities, like if that he's not going to produce Derek Henry level of production there.
42:48So I do get, I get concerned that it's just going to be kind of mediocre low end RB2 on a weekly basis.
42:55That's fair. That's definitely fair. All right. Seth in the house, which combo do you prefer Hampton and cook or JT and Brees?
43:02Give me that Hampton and cook Hampton and cook baby.
43:05I was a easy. And I mean, JT is great, but yeah, but all day one of these things is not like the other, unfortunately.
43:12And that's why we're, I'm going to say Hampton and cook.
43:15Sorry, Brees. Sorry, Brees. Uh, Martin, uh, we know to prioritize running back and wide receiver in that order and to wait
43:22on quarterback, but what would you prioritize in a 16 team league?
43:26When do you take a defense and kicker and do you take two of them?
43:30Um, that's interesting question. The one thing I'm going to give a little caveat in deeper leagues.
43:35I actually think the prioritization of quarterbacks can be a little bit stronger.
43:39Um, you said you want to wait on quarterbacks in those D because I actually play in a multitude of 16 team leagues.
43:46They're keepers though, that quarterbacks, um, it's a lot more important though.
43:50The depth at quarterback this year, the amount, you know, you're going to hear around these streets of like how Malik Willis
43:56is a value and Kyler Murray and how is Baker Mayfield ranked so low those guys you can get at the end of drafts.
44:03So you can still do it. But I do want to say the prioritization does change.
44:08I hadn't really thought necessarily about kickers in defense.
44:11That doesn't change for me a whole lot, but what about you Tara?
44:15I mean, do you bump quarterbacks up a little bit?
44:18Do you try to prioritize getting a higher end defense?
44:21Cause it's harder to stream in a 16 team league, especially with the idea of taking two.
44:26And then, I mean, I don't know if you really want to do the kicker thing, you can.
44:31Yeah, I agree with you. And what I'll also say is that in the 16 team league, there might be a lot
44:38of people that are in the same track as you in terms of I'm going to push quarterback back.
44:44And what that can do is mean that you can actually get a discount on those low end QB ones.
44:50If you just prioritize them a little bit more, they're going to fall back in the ADP.
44:55You'll get a little bit of a discount on them and you'll still get a strong high end quarterback there.
45:01So yeah, I might prioritize it a little bit more there.
45:04And then yeah, with defense and kicker, I wouldn't.
45:07Um, I know it makes it harder to stream, but, um, especially with kicker, maybe if you want to in defense and
45:13it's super deep, but kicker, I wouldn't just because injuries happen and you can always figure out streaming on that end.
45:19Yeah. And in 10 and 12, you can stream quarterbacks and defense and you can win a hundred percent, but 16 is limited to the ball game.
45:28I have to do this question because like, I just have to shame myself.
45:32Uh, Hampton and Tyson are key targets for me drafting at the one Oh five and a 12 PPR mocks have my
45:38pick number one as Jason, uh, I'm on our St.
45:41Brown mocks. Okay. Oh, H is usually, I mean, Hampton is usually gone at two eight.
45:46Should I reach for him? He's essentially asking, should he reach for at one five and a 12 PPR?
45:52I know that's tough. It's painful. I hate that when that happens, when you have someone that you want the second round,
45:58but physically you can't get to them. I just don't know if I can do it.
46:03Um, you can't do it. Like only thing I will advise is join another league and allow yourself to, um, get Hampton that way.
46:10How about trade, try to trade down. We've had people do that.
46:14Try to see if there's so many interests because ceiling has said this a lot on, and I kind of agree with
46:21it, but we, we altered it where he had said, you know, the draft starts at five, but we've altered it to say, you know what?
46:28The draft maybe starts at six because the top three running backs you've got in.
46:33Or if you just want to say chase and Puka, and then you've got Gibbs, you've got Bichon and then JSN.
46:39If you don't even want to put McCaffrey in there, JSN is kind of a lock in there.
46:45So five is valuable. Five is not something I want to give up because I want Hampton.
46:50But if you really do, and it's really important to you, see if there's someone in your league who has like the
46:56ninth pick or the eighth pick wants to move down and you could just do a straight swap.
47:02That's the best way to approach it. I don't listen, go, go get your guys.
47:06Don't let us be the one that stops you to do it.
47:10I ain't doing it. There's not doing it. And there's, I don't think there's anybody on this network.
47:15That's going to be like, yeah, you know what?
47:18You should pass up JSN and Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor from Aaron Hampton.
47:22No one's going to tell you that. But if you want to do it, go ahead.
47:27But I would, the best thing I would do is just keep mocking.
47:31Use a draft simulator. You can keep playing around with that.
47:34I don't know where you've been doing your mock drafts, but just as a, as a point here, one of the best
47:41things you can do, um, obviously you can go to any site.
47:44You can go to your site that you draft on, but if you sync your leagues on fantasy pros, it will do your format.
47:51You can also get draft Intel. You can get Intel about what your league mates do, and you can simulate based on
47:58your league settings and some of the data of, of how your league mates have drafted before.
48:03And then you can experiment a little bit more and see if it keeps happening.
48:07And if it keeps happening, why don't you also mark where you need to be and where you could trade down from and try to do that.
48:16And if you want to check those things out, um, you know, go over to fantasy pros.
48:21You can do that. Fantasy pros.com slash draft Intel.
48:23Um, you can also, you know, sync your leagues, uh, draft assistant fantasy pros.com slash draft assistant.
48:28Go check a couple of those out. We got free trials to test a few things and get a premium, make your season better.
48:36I highly suggest doing that. Any other thoughts? No, no, I completely agree.
48:40Um, if you want to find another way to get him trade thing possible, add another league.
48:45It's never, it's never a bad thing to add another league.
48:48Thank you. I only use fantasy pros mocks. That's right.
48:51Edge. Right. Um, yeah. And if you're top five, you need to take advantage.
48:55Very, very good on the chat. I agree here.
48:58All right. Uh, it's okay with the super chat.
49:00Could keep Mitchell be this year's where he most dirt McDaniel specifically wanted him loves using two running backs and Mitchell's six
49:07plus yards per carry speed seems perfect in their system.
49:10Why are we not fading Hampton? As we just talked about that.
49:14Funny enough, I think I've seen this comp a whole lot to how McDaniel had used Raheem Mostert in previous, like keep
49:20Mitchell in the big explosive plays kind of be in that it's fair question.
49:24McDaniel just apologized to fantasy owners like, Hey, sorry guys.
49:27Um, you know, this, you're going to have three guys and we're not going to tell you when.
49:33So has that seeped into, it doesn't really sound like it cause you didn't say it before, but that doesn't seeped into
49:39you at all of like wanting to fade Hampton on the theory of the usage of a guy like Keith Mitchell.
49:46No, it hasn't because while I would expect, you know, I was counting for some check downs for Amari and Hampton, not an egregious level.
49:53And really the value that we're getting here is early down work in goal line opportunities.
49:58I expect the offense to operate at such a high level that yeah, we can have production from a change of pace back like Mitchell.
50:05So I'm not discounting Hampton for that. He'll still get his.
50:09And then I also do like Mitchell as a later round target as well, because of the fact that it's not going
50:15to take a lot to get him there. Also, he's got us down the field.
50:20Love you, but you got us down the field, bud.
50:23Yeah. All right. Lightning round. We are going to do a little bit of lightning round here.
50:28We got just under 10 minutes. We are going to get as many questions in as we can.
50:33So strap in. Let's see if we can, uh, rock as many of these for you guys.
50:38And I might have to jump around to find easier questions.
50:42Like when is your cutoff on Parker Washington hype?
50:44So let's just do positional. What is the positional wide receiver spot where it's like, you're, you can't do anything different.
50:51There is no cutoff. No, uh, wide receiver 30, 30.
50:54Yeah. Wide receiver 30 is the, that's as, that's as high as I would push it.
50:58Okay. I'm okay. Going to like the 25, 26 range.
51:01If you really want to do it, we had this long conversation.
51:05If you want to listen to it, uh, Pat Fitzmauris, Jake Sealy and I were talking about Parker Washington and how I
51:12was like a little bit hesitant on it, but what we settled on was make him a wide receiver three.
51:18Like he, if he's a comfortable starting wide receiver three, cause we were having a conversation of what does he need to return?
51:25So anywhere in that range of what you need to do just as a wide receiver three, uh, whatever that number looks
51:31like is Carson Beck worth moving for Dolchich, uh, in a super flex tight end premium league.
51:36Erickson would say, yeah, yeah, I would do it.
51:39Super flex quarterback though. So they're going to have a high end pick unless Carson Beck comes out there looking like the second comment of Steve young.
51:47They're going to, they're going to draft somebody. Okay.
51:50Uh, keep Bijan for the last pick of round one or JSN for the last pick of round three.
51:55Yeah. I hate that. Uh, I mean, JSN that's good, but you know what?
52:00I'm going to say, Jason, that's like top five or six overall pick and you're getting two rounds of value.
52:06You have to consider the round value. Yeah. That's where I'm going to go.
52:10All right. 10 team PPR, two running back, two wide receiver, tight end flex one 10.
52:15Who are you taking? I mean, right there, you're probably going running back.
52:18So it's my choice. Uh, you know, Saquon cook a chance, something like that.
52:23Uh, maybe say Jefferson, Jefferson on ECR is 11.
52:25Yeah. So like Jefferson or Jefferson or cook are the two that stand out to me.
52:30Yeah. That's probably where I'm looking at. All right.
52:33Uh, how much do you guys still have trust in Derek Henry?
52:36Do the wheels fall off this year? I think it's hard to, I'm just not going to play falling knife with Derek Henry.
52:43Just they're going to beat him into the ground.
52:46He's going to score touchdown. So I'm, I'm just going to say, oh, and it looks like you agree.
52:52So, all right. Dope. Um, I don't think we got this super chat.
52:56Did we? I think we got a couple in here.
52:59Phillip 10 team, two keeper, two quarterback, two point, uh, PPR.
53:02All right. One point. Uh, what is it? PPC.
53:05Points for catch. Oh, for carry. Yeah. I think that's carry IDP league.
53:08Which two are you keeping McBride, Scadaboo rice? Um, they've got some rounds, 14 running backs are being kept.
53:14So we got two keepers here. McBride easy. And I'm torn on this one.
53:18I really am. I'll go with the unpopular one.
53:21I'm going to go with rice. I'm just going to lean rice.
53:25Yeah. Yeah. That's good. I'll do that. That's an interesting format.
53:28Sorry. I was like, I'm like two point. It's just like how it read.
53:32I didn't process my brain. Um, do we trust Kyler as a quarterback one this year?
53:37We know he can potentially produce as a quarterback one now that he's been named starter, but would you trust it?
53:43Would you do it? Yeah, I would. I'm okay with it.
53:47Now just be aware. You might have to, you might have to stream at some point if he falls victim to the
53:53injury, but yeah, I'm fine with it. I want to say yes, but I'm going to be like, no, be like, like, what are you saying?
54:01Like Brock Purdy is not enough. Like Kyler Murray, obviously with his legs and having Jefferson, like he can produce at that level.
54:08But do I want to pass on 15 quarterbacks so I can keep taking, I don't know, the 55th wide receipt.
54:14Like, I just want like a really good quarterback.
54:17Like I like the idea of pairing him with somebody.
54:20If I'm in a 16 team league, I'm going to answer that as a yes.
54:24I am comfortable doing it in a 10 or 12 team.
54:28The answer is just no, because it's like, how many times have you gotten to the end of the draft and you're
54:34like, well, it's Bo Nix and Patrick Mahomes still sitting out there.
54:38Like, I'm not going to take Kyler over those guys right now.
54:41So I guess I'm going to blanketly say no in that respect, because there's just too many good ones.
54:47I understand. But you know, you could also say yes.
54:50Um, double running back for the 12th pick in PPR.
54:53Yeah, do it. I'm down with it. What does it look like for you?
54:57I mean, for me, it's, oh my gosh, I love H.
55:00I always feel like a nut when I'm saying H and somebody, it can be H and Saquon.
55:06It can be, um, chase Brown and Saquon. It can be any combination of that.
55:10Any combination. If you're looking at ECR expert consensus ranks on fantasy pros, if that's your thing, it's not your thing.
55:17That's cool. Uh, gente is 12 and chase Brown is 14.
55:20So you could go gente chase Brown. Why not?
55:23Why not? Or H and is still there. 18 H and is actually, hold on.
55:27Yeah. I'm looking at half PPR. H and is at 18.
55:30So you could have your pick of any of those three.
55:34Jacoby Myers lead the team in targets. Why so low in Jacksonville wide receiver ranks?
55:38I don't know if that's a blanket statement or to one of us, but.
55:42I don't think he will. I don't think he will.
55:45Um, it's, it's the, it's the upside thing, the big boom upside of BTJ.
55:50And then the reliability of Parker Washington. Yeah. Yeah.
55:52I think Parker Washington, I think Jacoby Myers is like super cool in this offense, but I'm not going to be surprised
55:59when he's third in the team and targets. So I just think Parker Washington is going to dominate that.
56:05And I think Brian Thomas is going to have his moments.
56:08He's going to have some big plays. Like Jacoby Myers is just going to be like, I see Jacoby Myers, like Keenan
56:14Allen in that chargers offense, you know, where he has a couple of those games where you're just like, Whoa, you're like, look at this.
56:22But then you're going to have your big explosive Quentin Johnson slash Brian Thomas games.
56:26And then, I mean, last year didn't work quite as much, but like Parker Washington is my lad McConkie.
56:32So that's how I see it. Mm-hmm. Let's see.
56:35Achan or Achan. I think it's pretty easy. Achan.
56:38Yeah. Achan. No Achan. We already talked about the concerns.
56:4110 team league pick nine. Kept Bijan around one.
56:43Should I target Neighbors or Hampton around two? Or is there another suggestion?
56:47Kind of tough because we don't know the other keepers.
56:50So let's stick to Hampton or Neighbors. Pick nine.
56:53So you theoretically probably, because Neighbors is rising, so you're probably not going to be able to get him in three.
56:59And remember, he kept Bijan around one. Yeah. Probably also going to have 10.
57:03If there's only one keeper, I'm just not sure here.
57:06If there's only one, there's probably a decent amount of those top end picks that have already been kept.
57:12So I might go with Hampton and just double up at running back.
57:16I want to say Neighbors pretty bad. I get it.
57:19I say Hampton and then draft because it should be a decent pull there left.
57:23Yeah, that's a good point. You know what? Hampton, you get the two running back set.
57:28There's a chance Neighbors could be available in the second.
57:31I'm okay with that. This is going to hurt.
57:34So I was at the 12th pick and got Cook and A-Chan.
57:37Then I traded A-Chan and Aaron Jones for Saquon Barkley.
57:40Humble brag. If Hertz drops far enough, would you take him over Caleb, T-Law, or Dak?
57:45Yeah. You know, I tried to find every single reason to fade Hertz.
57:49And as I went back there and looked, really and truly, it's a super safe floor.
57:54So, I mean, if it falls, it's worth it.
57:57Yeah, I think it's fine. The interesting one is, let me ask you this real quick.
58:01Would you rather Jalen Hertz or Jaden Daniels right now?
58:04Over on the tailgate, the episode I was doing earlier today, me, Fitzy, and Erickson.
58:09Just talking real football. If you guys have never checked that out, go and check out a tailgate NFL fun channel.
58:15It'll divide into betting and a little bit of fantasy, but it's main football talk.
58:20We were talking about the loss of Tunsil on their offensive line is a real scare.
58:24And there was a real conversation those boys were having about maybe Jaden Daniels needs to be going below Herbert and Trevor Lawrence at this point.
58:32So Hertz or Jaden Daniels? Hertz, but again, those are two guys who I was skipping over regardless and taking from that, you know, T-Law, Herbert, Caleb area.
58:41So if they fall, then yeah, it's still going to be Hertz over Daniels now for me.
58:46But again, they got to fall. Okay. Let's do two more little overtime ones.
58:50Uh, here let's go to, uh, carts. Any tips on when to draft Bowers and McBride in, in no tight end 12?
58:56Uh, okay. So this is just like the wide receiver spot.
59:00So no tight end 12 team, half PPRs are cut off of draftable tight ends for flex.
59:05So since you were talking about not being afraid of them before, you know, how do they stack up against comparable wide receivers?
59:12And what would you do if you, if you have like one of those like wide receiver spots instead of tight end?
59:18Yeah, they are functionally a wide receiver. There, but I would push it back a couple of rounds there.
59:24At least one. I'm not going to go with Bowers in the second there just because you don't have to make that.
59:31But Bowers is essentially operating as the clear wide receiver one for that team.
59:35So it's the same thing. Once you get into an area where you feel uncomfortable with the wide receivers because they have
59:41quarterback situations or something, that's where I would dive into it.
59:45So let me ask you this real quick. Cause this is interesting.
59:48When we, when you look at ECR, ECR has got Brock Bowers at 16 overall, but that's above Nico Collins and George Pickens.
59:55And in that type of format, I just don't think I'm still doing that.
59:59Make bride is above a lava and rice. So like where, and that's having to have the tight end position.
60:05If you don't have the tight end position, who do you think you move them under rice?
60:10Uh, and obviously your ranks are kind of relative here, but you've got guys like flowers, Devonta Smith, Tedro McMillan.
60:16Like what's the wide receiver range? It's the Tedro McMillan cutoff for me.
60:20Um, and I, yeah. And you know, once we figure out what it has going on with the injury thing for Emeka
60:27Abuka, maybe that would come function in there. Emeka would be a line for me too.
60:32It sounds like he's okay. Uh, from a report a little bit earlier that it was a little bit more of a scare than anything.
60:39Yeah. Yeah. I think that, yeah, that Tet line and beyond is the line.
60:43Okay. Beautiful. And then, uh, last one here in Rashad white might start.
60:47Uh, is it true? Do you trust? Are you Rashad white guy?
60:51Uh, I heard the opposite there, uh, that we were leaning towards, uh, JCM as the, the starter there.
60:57But I will say in relation to the Jeremy or Jeremy Laramie Tunsil, um, injury there, um, was talking with Debro and
61:03Erickson earlier, made a very good point. Perhaps if we need some more secure pass protection, that could push wide up a little bit more.
61:11So it could be more favorable to him, but I still favor JCM there, but just be aware.
61:16We could see that shift of needing a more reliable pass blocking back more often than not.
61:21I really like that too, because also if that offensive line is trash and you're playing from behind and you're struggling, uh,
61:28making any headway in the first quarter, whatever running Rashad white's a guy you're going to want to have out there more.
61:34So even though it has been kind of a JCM, uh, drafting process for shot white might be coming a little bit more sneaky without offensive line struggle.
61:43So that's a really, really, really good take there.
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