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FFPC Best Ball Tournament Draft | Hero RB Masterclass from the 1.09 (Ep. 2125)

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1 hr 27 min
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Aug 11, 2026
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Tue, August 11, 2026
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A.J. BrownAmon-Ra St. BrownAnthony RichardsonCeeDee LambChris OlaveChuba HubbardCourtland SuttonCyrus AllenDalton KincaidDeebo SamuelDenzel BostonGreg DulcichHunter HenryIsiah Pacheco
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A.J. Brown

NegativeValue4:04

While the source acknowledges the excitement surrounding the A.J. Brown and Drake Maye pairing, they are hesitant to draft him ahead of Justin Jefferson or CeeDee Lamb due to the uncertainty of a new quarterback-receiver connection.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

PositiveProjection2:23

The source has moved Amon-Ra St. Brown ahead of Jaxon Smith-Njigba in their rankings, citing his consistent production (top three in PPR points per game and top five in total points over the last three seasons) and a favorable strength of schedule for the Lions.

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Anthony Richardson

NegativeInjury51:11

Anthony Richardson's development is hindered by constant injury rehabilitation, which prevents him from learning the playbook and mastering the nuances of being an NFL quarterback.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveProjection4:02

The source views CeeDee Lamb as a high-floor, high-upside pick, noting that his production is proven with Dak Prescott and the Cowboys' fast pace of play provides a reliable offensive environment. They dismiss concerns about his ceiling, suggesting he remains a WR1 candidate even if George Pickens' presence impacts his target share.

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Chris Olave

PositiveValue16:56

The source identifies Chris Olave as a top target in the third round, noting his high ranking and the team's need for a wide receiver in their hero RB build.

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Chuba Hubbard

NegativeBust26:00

The source is avoiding Chuba Hubbard, citing holes in his profile and the expectation that he will lose his job quickly. They note he had zero explosive runs last year and argue that the Panthers' offense will likely be a bottom-eight unit, making the backfield a situation to avoid entirely.

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Courtland Sutton

NegativeProjection105:14

Cortland Sutton is viewed as a fair pick at his current ADP (WR38), though his outlook is clouded by the emergence of Pat Bryant, who is eating into his targets, routes, and red-zone usage. Sutton's value is largely tied to touchdown upside.

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Cyrus Allen

PositiveSleeper122:30

Cyrus Allen is a favorite late-round rookie sleeper with a strong prospect profile. Despite being buried in rankings, he has been buzzy in training camp and could see opportunities given the injury concerns surrounding the Chiefs' receiving corps.

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Dalton Kincaid

PositiveValue43:51

Dalton Kincaid is a strong target in FFPC formats because he is finally healthy and his high target-per-route-run metrics align perfectly with the format's reception-heavy scoring.

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Deebo Samuel

NegativeValue42:24

Deebo Samuel is considered more valuable in redraft than best ball because he typically starts strong but fades due to injuries and reduced efficiency, often catching dump-offs for minimal yardage late in the season.

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Denzel Boston

NegativeBreakout39:18

Denzel Boston is generating buzz in training camp as a potential alpha wide receiver on the perimeter. However, the source remains skeptical about how this translates to fantasy production, questioning the overall quality of the Browns' offense.

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Greg Dulcich

PositiveSleeper53:29

Greg Dulcich is a target in tight end premium formats because he has a realistic path to leading his team in targets, which provides more upside than other tight ends with higher floors but lower target ceilings.

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Hunter Henry

NegativeRole56:17

Hunter Henry is viewed as a reliable, high-floor option who will catch touchdowns, but he is unlikely to command a massive target share in the Patriots' offense given the competition for targets.

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Isiah Pacheco

NegativeInjury18:34

Isaiah Pacheco is set to miss time with an MCL sprain but is expected to be ready for Week 1.

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J.K. Dobbins

NegativeInjury18:20

J.K. Dobbins left practice with trainers, though the source notes it did not appear to be a serious injury.

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Jakobi Meyers

PositiveValue45:55

Jakobi Meyers is described as underrated every year and a consistent producer who frequently outpaces his ADP in the 10th round.

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James Cook

PositiveValue0:21

The source identifies James Cook as a preferred target for their hero RB build, noting they have been drafting him more frequently recently and view him as a strong structural fit for their roster construction.

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Jaxon Smith-Njigba

PositiveProjection1:54

The source expresses skepticism regarding Jaxon Smith-Njigba's outlook, noting that he lacks a near 30% target share and faces potential regression after a 2023 season where he relied heavily on downfield efficiency (four TDs on 20+ yard passes, 60% catch rate). The departure of offensive coordinator Kubiak to the Raiders and the potential for Rashid Shaheed to see increased integration further cloud his projection.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeProjection20:47

The source considers Jayden Daniels a high-risk quarterback following the injury to Laramie Tunsil, noting that the loss of the starting left tackle significantly impacts the offense's ability to protect the quarterback and execute downfield plays.

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Jaylen Waddle

NegativeInjury107:03

While the source acknowledges Jalen Waddle's high upside, they express concern regarding his durability, noting he is frequently battling injuries and is already dealing with an issue in training camp.

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Jerry Jeudy

NegativeValue40:28

The source suggests that being better than Jerry Jeudy is not a high bar for new Browns receivers to clear, implying Jeudy's performance or value is underwhelming.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeProjection46:41

While Joe Burrow is elite when on the field, his injury history and the Bengals' offensive overhaul create uncertainty compared to younger, more durable options like Justin Herbert.

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Jonah Coleman

PositiveSleeper37:44

Jonah Coleman is viewed as a strong long-term investment for the Broncos' backfield. The source notes that the team prioritized drafting him despite limited draft capital, suggesting he has more staying power than other rookie running backs like Nick Singleton.

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Jonathon Brooks

NegativeBust25:05

The source is fading Jonathan Brooks at his current ADP (RB26), arguing that the hype has outpaced his actual NFL production (45 total yards). Concerns include his lack of pass-protection experience, the Panthers' poor offensive line, and the potential for a timeshare with Chuba Hubbard that renders both players useless in a low-scoring offense.

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Justin Herbert

PositiveProjection47:32

Justin Herbert is favored over Joe Burrow for long-term value due to his youth, durability, and the expectation that Mike McDaniel's offensive scheme will help him reach MVP-level production.

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Justin Jefferson

NegativeProjection6:44

The source notes that Justin Jefferson's outlook is tied to the projection of improved quarterback play from Kyler Murray, which remains an uncertainty compared to the established production of CeeDee Lamb.

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Kenyon Sadiq

PositiveValue100:05

Kenyon Sadiq is a recommended tight end target to ensure roster depth, particularly in four-tight-end builds which have historically performed well in this format. He is viewed as a solid value pick at his current ADP.

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Ladd McConkey

NegativeInjury28:57

Ladd McConkey is dealing with a groin injury that will keep him out for most of training camp and preseason, though he is expected to be ready for Week 1. The source suggests this creates a 'buy the dip' opportunity for those who were previously bearish.

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Lamar Jackson

PositiveValue20:47

Lamar Jackson is a priority target in the late fifth round; the source notes he has occasionally fallen to the sixth round in single-QB drafts, but they prefer not to get cute and instead secure him to stack with Zay Flowers.

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Malik Nabers

NegativeInjury12:16

Malik Nabers is dealing with an injury that has limited him to individual drills, though he is expected to be ready for Week 1. The source expresses concern about the Giants' offense under coordinator Matt Nagy and the lack of proven passing efficiency from the quarterback position.

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Malik Willis

NegativeUsage52:20

Malik Willis offers significant rushing upside, having consistently exceeded 40 rushing yards in games where he played at least 60% of snaps, making him a viable risk as a QB2.

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Omar Cooper Jr.

PositiveValue118:21

Omar Cooper is a recommended late-round target, particularly as a potential beneficiary if Kenyon Sadiq misses time. He is viewed as a solid value at his current ADP of WR67.

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Pat Bryant

PositiveBreakout105:41

Pat Bryant is a second-year receiver who outperformed expectations during his rookie season and has received positive training camp reports. He is seen as a more natural fit for the Broncos' offense than Troy Franklin and is expected to compete for targets with Cortland Sutton.

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Rachaad White

PositiveUsage25:57

The source remains bullish on Rachaad White, arguing that a poor offensive line could actually increase his target volume via dump-off passes. They highlight his pass-protection skills (ranked 16th among RBs) as a reason he will maintain his role.

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Rashid Shaheed

PositiveUsage2:04

The source suggests Rashid Shaheed could see a larger role in the Saints' offense, which serves as a potential negative factor for Jaxon Smith-Njigba's target volume.

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RJ Harvey

PositiveSleeper33:01

RJ Harvey is a recommended target outside the top 30 running backs, particularly in best ball. The source highlights his ability to catch passes as a rookie and his double-digit touchdown production as evidence of his red-zone utility, suggesting he can provide explosive plays even if his rushing efficiency is inconsistent.

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Rome Odunze

PositiveValue30:54

The source expects Rome Odunze to potentially climb in ADP and possibly flip Ladd McConkey due to McConkey's recent injury news.

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Seth McGowan

PositiveDepth Chart125:08

Seth McGowan appears to have secured the RB2 job for the Colts, surpassing DJ Giddens in the depth chart, which was unexpected given Giddens' talent profile.

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Stefon Diggs

NegativeProjection22:08

The source expresses concern about Stefon Diggs, noting his age, his decline in the playoffs last year, and the fact that he is now on his third team in three seasons, which they view as a potential red flag.

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Tank Bigsby

PositiveBreakout99:03

Tank Bigsby is a high-upside target who has adapted well to the new scheme in training camp. He showed explosive play-making ability last year despite limited opportunities, and the source notes that experts like Sigmund Bloom are aggressively targeting him as a potential breakout candidate.

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Terry McLaurin

NegativeProjection24:16

The source is less bullish on Terry McLaurin following the injury to Laramie Tunsil, questioning if the offense will be able to hold up well enough to support downfield production.

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Travis Etienne

NegativeProjection30:56

Travis Etienne has top-12 upside due to his consistent production when healthy, but the source expresses concern regarding his red-zone efficiency and goal-line struggles. While he is a 'jack of all trades,' his value is tied more to usage and deployment than elite rushing metrics.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveBreakout22:08

Tucker Kraft is a high-upside target in the middle of the sixth round. Despite potential efficiency regression, he remains a 'yards after the catch monster' with a 26% red zone target share and elite efficiency metrics (third in yards per route run, second in yards per target). The source is bullish on his recovery from an ACL injury and views him as a potential game-changer in tight-end premium formats.

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Zach Charbonnet

NegativeBust101:45

The source advises against drafting Zach Charbonnet, noting he lacks explosiveness and tackle-breaking ability. His previous production was largely driven by red-zone volume, and he is now coming off a season-ending injury in a backfield that added Jeterian Price, who is viewed as having more juice.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveValue17:02

The source is high on Zay Flowers, selecting him in the fourth round as a key piece of their hero RB build, despite a minor injury note.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. That 1.5 points per tight end catch goes over 106.
0:05Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey all gone. Top of ADP, it's now looking like JSN, Ashton Gentry, James Cook, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee
0:12Lamb, Omari and Hampton, Chase Brown and Trey McBride.
0:14We've got 38 seconds so we can take a little bit of a breath.
0:18What do you want to do with this first pick?
0:21It's either JSN or James Cook for me when it comes to if we want to do structurally with the receiver or running back.
0:29So is there one you have less exposure to that you kind of want to lean into?
0:34I did tweet about James Cook today so maybe that's a sign that we get in the kitchen here and go the Bills running back.
0:41Well, I tweeted about Monroe St. Brown yesterday and we can talk about that in a minute.
0:46And part of that was being less high on JSN.
0:49So let's take James Cook because I don't take James Cook very often.
0:53But yeah, so firstly, Andrew, how are you doing?
0:56You doing well? There's there's no time for how are you?
0:59It's August. It's in the peak of fantasy football season.
1:02So it's all about getting to the nitty gritty.
1:05But Tom, I'm doing excellent. Great time to be alive here.
1:08This is this is the time for us to shine.
1:11Crunch time. Some people even might say so absolutely loving it.
1:14But yeah, I also did see that post that you made about JSN.
1:18And for him, it's like the perfect run out last year.
1:21You have the exchange or trade off an offensive coordinator.
1:24What's that going to do for him? And maybe you see a player like Rashid Shaheed maybe does actually take on a larger role in this office.
1:32Jason doesn't have a near 30 percent target share.
1:35Yeah, I mean, look, I'm still pretty high on JSN.
1:38I would have been comfortable taking him there versus James Cook, but it's a lot closer.
1:43The more I've drafted and part of that is I've flipped the Monrard St.
1:47Brown ahead of JSN in my rankings. Like the Monrard top three in PPR points per game in each of the last
1:53three seasons, top five in total points in each of them.
1:57The Lions defense continues to look really bad. The Lions have easy strength of schedule, according to sharp football.
2:02And that just feels like a really strong situation.
2:05Meanwhile, JSN loses Kubiak to the Raiders. And so much what JSN did well last year was on those downfield passes.
2:11Like he had four receiving touchdowns on passes, which were 20 plus yards downfield, had a 60 percent catch rate, which is really high.
2:18And if you get any kind of level of regression there, if Rashid Shaheed gets integrated more, it just feels a little bit iffy to me.
2:26But look, we're back upon the clock since our last pick.
2:29JSN did go one pick later. Chase Brown, Ashton Gentty, Kenneth Walker, Trey McBride and Amari in Hampton.
2:35I feel pretty comfortable with CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, Saquon Barkley, any of those guys you want to bang the table for the most, Andrew?
2:42I think it's probably going to be Lamb for me or I mean, A.J.
2:46Brown is tough here to kind of reach for a little bit.
2:50So and I know that you'll push back against that.
2:53So CeeDee Lamb, I think the safety, the floor with him is really, really high, even if maybe we didn't see the
2:59ceiling outcome last year with George Pickett's like we maybe wanted to.
3:03But a lot of that was touchdown based. So if Lamb just runs a little bit harder with touchdowns in an offense
3:10that we're excited about, I think Lamb is a really strong pick here.
3:13Yeah, well, let's go and lock in Lamb. If you're watching this and you haven't seen any of our fantasy pros best
3:20ball streams before, this is the draft assistant. That's why it looks a little bit different to a traditional FFPC screen that you might be seeing.
3:28We've synced this up so that we can use the FFPC draft, run it through our draft assistant in real time, gives
3:34us the best available picks, lets you track roster needs, get pick by pick recommendations based on the actual room, our rankings
3:41and ADP, all the things that matter in best ball.
3:44And Andrew, part of that is why I just didn't want to pull AJ Brown up quite that high.
3:49Like I know that as a Patriots fan, you're very much kind of all in on this AJ Brown and Drake May
3:56experience, but I'm just I'm not willing to pull him ahead of Justin Jefferson or CeeDee Lamb yet.
4:01Is that how far you're willing to push him?
4:04I'm definitely willing to push him above Justin Jefferson because I think that the quarterback concerns with the Vikings are still a projection.
4:11We're hoping that Kyler Murray can be better for Justin Jefferson.
4:14I think that that's very much possible and likely that they're going to get better quarterback play.
4:19But what if it's just a little bit better and you're then sacrificing the upside where AJ Brown and Drake May, man,
4:26I am so excited about that being a elite pairing, whereas Kyler Murray, I think I don't know if anyone's imagining it
4:32as this is going to be an elite pairing where it's like it's just going to be better than it was last year.
4:39So I do think that Lamb does kind of check off all the boxes of there's no projection in terms of, well,
4:46we've seen Lamb be the wide receiver one with Dak Prescott before.
4:49Like there's no projection there. It's just, okay, the George Pickens impact.
4:53I think that worst case scenario with Lamb is, okay, yeah, he's like a back end wide receiver one.
4:59But that's still a really, really strong investment here in round two when we know the upside with him is because last
5:05year Pickens obviously benefited from Lamb missing time. What if Pickens misses time?
5:09And then your Lamb is right back into that number one wide receiver territory.
5:13I remember looking at how old he was and thinking, man, CeeD Lamb is that young.
5:18I think he's only 26 or 27 years old.
5:21And I was actually surprised because he's obviously been in the league for a while now and just been very, very productive.
5:27So I do think if you are trying to value safety here, and I think that in best ball formats, you know,
5:34having guys that are in your lineup every single week, not busting, where I think there's way more bust profile, even with
5:40AJ Brown as excited as I am with him.
5:43It's still something new between him and his quarterback.
5:46We've seen this before with Lamb and Prescott for multiple years work out.
5:49Yeah. And when the two of them on the field, the Cowboys play at such a fast rate of play that I'm
5:56always going to be comfortable betting on that offensive environment.
5:59I know it's not for everyone, but I'm willing to.
6:02I'm Prezzy. Appreciate you hanging out with us over here on Twitch.
6:06Mr. Primetime saying CMC injured. Look, if you're wish casting or if you're just telling me something which isn't out there, I'm
6:12not going to welcome either of those things. But I appreciate you being here and shout out to 50 something, one of
6:19our new followers over here on Twitch. If you are catching the audio version every other Monday, myself and Andrew out here streaming, it's all good.
6:26So, yes, through two rounds, we have seen Brock Bowers, Trey McBride and Colston Loveland go off the board.
6:32If you're unfamiliar with FFPC, it is a tight end premium.
6:35It's a full PPR format, but that tight end premium of an extra half point per catch does really push some of
6:42the top end players up the board. We will be drafting some tight ends towards bottom of the draft who you will
6:48not see drafted in your normal leagues. It's one quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, one tight end and then two
6:55flex spots, which can be either running back wide receiver or tight end.
6:59$125 entry, $400,000 up top, second place is $100,000, third $30,000 and fourth 15.
7:03It drops off fast. So this is all about aiming for the perfect, perfect outcome.
7:07After week 14, the top two scoring teams from this regular draft will move on to the next one.
7:13Same again in week 15, same again in week 16, all the way to the week 17 final with 96 other teams
7:20where myself and Andrew, with our team, we'll be taking down 400,000.
7:23Andrew, we've drafted a whole bunch of super flex teams, but we haven't done as many in the single quarterback league.
7:29So it's nice to be in here and not having to worry about quarterbacks up at the top and really be able
7:36to just dig in on the player takes. Malik Neighbors goes wide receiver 11, just around the 2-3 turn here.
7:42And I've seen Malik Neighbors go at the 2-12 this weekend.
7:45And how high are you willing to chase him up the board as like, we've seen a bunch of different reports.
7:51Like, you know, he's looking okay. He's ahead of schedule.
7:54He might make week one, but also he's not fully participating.
7:58You know, it's still a little bit sketchy. Yeah, not participating fully in team drills, I believe, is the main report where he's doing individual stuff.
8:05He's out there running, cutting, catching passes. I think that him being on the field week one is obviously a good indication
8:12of his health being farther ahead of schedule. But there are still other hurdles that he has to overcome.
8:18Number one being, Matt Nagy is the offensive coordinator on this team.
8:21It's true. And that's not a good thing. That's not a reason to be bullish on the New York Giants in any way, shape or form.
8:29The Chiefs were more than happy to let Matt Nagy go after, again, I don't know the exact influence he had on the Chiefs offense.
8:36But the Chiefs offense has not gotten better since Matt Nagy had gone there the last couple years.
8:42So I think that's something that still has to be considered when you're talking about Malik neighbors.
8:47You have to consider, well, when does he actually get back to himself producing at a high level and going back to projections?
8:54He has played one quarter of football with Jackson Dart one like that's another projection.
8:58I know that we love Dart from a fantasy perspective because of the rushing the legs, but from a advanced passing metrics
9:05numbers last year, like, where we going out of our way to play a lot of these like Giants wide receivers.
9:11I mean, Wanda Robinson was obviously productive, but a lot of these Giants receivers were still unreliable with Jackson Dart as a
9:17passer last year where he was a little bit up and down.
9:21So I do think that there is obviously get upside with Malik neighbors.
9:25If he's healthy, we've seen what this guy can do.
9:28His rookie year was absolutely sensational. But even last year, you know, he wasn't producing at the same level that he was as a rookie.
9:35I'm a little bit more of like the low end wide receiver one territory.
9:40So I think this round three is probably the highest I would be willing to invest in neighbors.
9:45But to your point, as soon as we get closer and closer and closer, it seems like it's going to continue to
9:51go up and up and up and steam. And I think there's a price where I'm not going to be necessarily buying it.
9:58Yeah, in this draft, we've had a little bit of interest and stuff fall like Nico Collins almost made it back to us.
10:05Wide receiver 12 goes in the middle of the third round.
10:08Brees Hall goes just before us. So we can talk about a few of those guys that have fallen a little in a moment.
10:16But the top players at ADP are Chris Olave, Tyler Warren, who seems to be potentially a beneficiary from not a single
10:22Colts wide receiver wanting to play this year. Javonte Williams, Devonta Smith, Emekereg Buka, our guy Zay Flowers.
10:27Which of these guys stands out the most to you, Andrew?
10:31Andrew, on the draft assistant, it does push towards Chris Olave at the top.
10:35Is that where you want to lean? Yeah, I think that's the direction I would like to go as well.
10:41I think that he's ranked up really, really high there.
10:44And, you know, Zay Flowers did pick up a little bit of a boo-boo here that I don't actually love.
10:50But there's a chance that he might fall to us back beginning of round four.
10:54So let's go with Olave. Yeah, I'm good with that.
10:57Kind of giving ourselves a classic hero RB build.
11:00Talking about running backs, we've got to mention J.K.
11:03Dobbins did leave practice today with trainers. Like it sounded like nothing particularly serious.
11:07I mean, it wasn't on a car. But J.K.
11:09Dobbins out there. We are starting to get these injuries that are filtering through.
11:14Isaiah Pacheco is set to miss some time with an MCL sprain, but should be ready for week one.
11:19That feels more impactful. Like that feels like it's going to push the Lions potentially bring somebody else in.
11:25I think it's Sion Vakie, the backup behind Pacheco, is also dealing with an injury at the moment.
11:30So if the Lions need bodies out there, could we end up finding somebody competent?
11:35Could we end up with somebody like Najee Harris there?
11:38It's just the best time of year for news and things like that.
11:42Being on the clock, making those decisions. Andrew, we've got one pick before our last one where we took Chris Olave, Tyler
11:48Warren and Mekaregbuka, Garrett Wilson, Jalen Waddle, Ladd McConkie go off the board.
11:52And then Zay Flowers does make it back, as does Devonta Smith.
11:56I'm happy with either of those guys. So if you want to look at running back, Travis Ochan, DeAndre Swift, Josh Jacobs are all there.
12:03I don't want to do running back here. I would rather just go with another wide receiver.
12:08I mean, we've got Zay on the board, right?
12:11Let's take Zay Flowers. I'm not even going to hesitate on that one.
12:15But yes, I appreciate everybody in here. Kibbles, hanging out with us.
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12:28So, Andrew, like through the first couple of weeks of training camp, as things kind of get towards the first week of
12:34proper preseason games, what's been the most meaningful or newsworthy note that's happened for you?
12:39Well, most recently we had big news over the weekend that Laramie Tunsell, the offensive tackle for the Washington Commanders is out indefinitely with a torn triceps injury.
12:47And I think that this is massive. I think that this makes Jayden Daniels a very high risk quarterback across all formats.
12:54And it's interesting because last week or the end of last week, it was finally they got Jayden Daniels some weapons.
13:00They signed Stefan Diggs. Like, this is great. And I wasn't really moving Daniels that much in my rankings because he'd already
13:06been up there pretty high in terms of, OK, he's going to get it done.
13:11He's got the rushing. But to me, it's like if Laramie Tunsell had just stayed healthy and they didn't sign Diggs, I'd
13:17feel much better about Jayden Daniels than the reverse where you bring in Diggs.
13:22And but you take away the start offs of tackle.
13:25Like who's more important to this offense? It's Laramie Tunsell signing close.
13:28So although I appreciate what Diggs did last year with the Patriots over a thousand yards and not that many.
13:34I think it was only 20 receivers last year that actually hit a thousand receiving yards and Diggs did it on very limited route volume.
13:41He was also attached to a really high powered offense.
13:44It was a very easy schedule for the Patriots and he was highly efficient.
13:49But we also saw Diggs. He's older and he fell off the face of the earth in the playoffs where he was
13:55an absolute ghost for the Patriots and did absolutely nothing.
13:58And the Patriots were more than happy to move on from him.
14:02And I do think it's like and maybe this isn't all on field too, but Diggs is also now playing for his third team in three seasons.
14:10As an player like that is like somewhat telling of like, OK, like this is what the NFL teams are thinking about this player.
14:17Now, again, maybe this is more about his off field kind of like shenanigans that he tends to kind of get wrapped up in.
14:24So maybe that's really more of that. And he obviously got hurt playing for the Houston Texans.
14:29But this letter me tonsil thing, I mean, we saw what happened to this Chargers offense last year when they were derailed by injuries.
14:36Justin Herbert got hit and hit and hit. And look, James is not built like Justin Herbert.
14:41Like he got banged up last year because he's a much more slender built quarterback.
14:46And this concerns me for his durability in a brand new offense.
14:49They got at the Eagles in week one. Like, oh God, like that is really, really tough sledding for an offense where
14:56Terry McClure and now another player that I'm kind of concerned about to drafting him where he goes.
15:01Because if they're not going to be able to hold up in production, are they really going to be able to hit on some of these downfield shots?
15:10I'm not as bullish on now McClure and kind of bouncing back here.
15:13So for me, the commanders losing tonsil, I think is a major, major red flag for this offense overall.
15:19Yeah. And to your point, Stefan Diggs, incredibly efficient last year, ranked eighth in yards per outrun, 16th most receiving yards, despite
15:26seeing him 32nd most targets among wide receivers with 10 or more red zone targets.
15:30He ranked eighth in catch rate. Like things broke very well for Stefan Diggs.
15:34As far as the running backs, obviously losing Laramie Tunsil is a massive third bat.
15:39Like not having him there on the left hand side of the line, just creating that wall that he does.
15:45It makes things a little bit worse. Are you playing the commanders backfield any differently based on this news?
15:50Are you scared of any of the guys or are you just kind of like still leaning in the prior takes?
15:57All paths lead to Rashad White. For me, it just continues to be white.
16:01And I can always spin this positively because I'm trying because I'm making the bull case for white.
16:06Well, it's like, well, if he's less time to throw, then it means more dump off passes running backs.
16:12Right. So like technically that argument can be used.
16:14We saw it last year with Ashton Jenty, you know, how was he able to kind of like still like end up
16:21finishing as a back end RB one? It's because he got a crap ton of dump off passes behind a broken offensive line.
16:28So this is the beginning of the end to the commanders office of line, which wasn't ranked that highly even before this Tunsil injury.
16:35Like this was looked at as in a below average offensive line.
16:39Now you're taking out the number one piece of it.
16:42Now you're looking at an offensive line that can be bottom five and now you're much worried about can cross key merit
16:48overcome this type of poor blocking up front potentially.
16:51So white for me doesn't really change how I'm approaching this backfield.
16:54If the offensive line is not going to be as good, then you've got Rashad White, who ranked 16th best in pass protection last year among running backs.
17:03So you've got Jokori Kroski Merritt, who ranked 39th.
17:05And the commanders have been pretty open about the fact that his lack of pass protection skills kept him off field.
17:12Rashad White averages 51 receptions per year. Yes, he's never been the most efficient running back, but back to back seasons at
17:184.3 yards per carry over 50% success rate. Like he's added a little more to his game as he's kind of gained experience in the NFL.
17:26So yeah, very much with you there on Rashad White.
17:29But it is noteworthy that the team continues to say they do want to see Jokori Kroski Merritt have a bit more
17:35of a breakout and take the next step. Lufa Burden goes at the 501 groin injury, which is going to keep him
17:42out for the majority of training camp and preseason.
17:45But the belief is that he's going to be fine for that opening game.
17:49Andrew, are you kind of backing off Lufa Burden at all a minute based on that news?
17:54I was backing off of him very much so before this injury.
17:57So now I guess for me, it's can I get in a draft room where he does fall enough where I can get some exposure to him?
18:06Because I'm never trying to extinguish the flames of Lufa Burden, his upside case, because I do think it's very clear what it is.
18:13But the price to pay when it was early round or late round three, early round four was too much for me.
18:19So I think this injury does kind of create an opportunity where if you were a little bit bearish on Burden and
18:26you're doing a lot of these best ball drafts, I think this is probably your opportunity to get to buy the dip
18:32and get your your Luther Burden stock as Ben Johnson would always lightly put.
18:36So, I mean, I think though for redraft, though, I mean, didn't he get hurt last year in training camp and had
18:43a really slow out of the gates? I don't remember if it was a groin injury, but I think that this relatively hurts.
18:50And you're going to see a thing too. We just saw this Burden and Odunzee.
18:54They're going to go much closer together. It wouldn't be surprised if we see Odunzee flip Burden in some drafts.
19:00I don't know if it'll be completely an ADP, but I think we're going to see more of Odunzee going higher and
19:07higher as a result, obviously, of Burden's injury. Yeah, I think it would probably take another little hit of negative news to
19:13see them flip each other bit here. Luther Burden going at wide receiver 22, Roman Odunzee going two picks later at wide
19:20receiver 23, followed by Terry McLaurin with that little bit of bad news for him.
19:24Previously, he was going a few spots higher. 6MGClove, appreciate you following us over here on our Twitch channel.
19:30We are in round five with James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave and Zay Flowers.
19:35Andrew, how do you feel about that start? This is like textbook hero RB start where I feel really strong about James Cook and Zay Flowers.
19:42I think he could be the wide receiver one and we got him as our wide receiver three.
19:48Come on, like come on down. So I love this build so far.
19:51Again, talking some strategy with you. So two of the teams.
19:55So we're picking at the nine spot. So two of the other teams already have tight ends.
20:00Looks like we just got Harold Fenn off the board there.
20:03So I don't think tight ends direction. I want to go in here.
20:07I was kind of considering Harold Fenn, but he obviously just went off the board.
20:11Are you thinking anything differently? Do you want someone like Kraft Laporta pits here?
20:16Or do you feel like we're reaching a little bit here again?
20:19Because we can also push it to our six round pick because there's only one team that needs a tight end picking
20:26behind us, according to what coach is telling me after like the tier drop offs.
20:30So what do you think? Well, I'm ready to lean into the quintessential hero RB and part of that is also making sure you're stronger of a position.
20:38So, Andrew, I'm going to throw two players at you and I'll let you choose Lamar Jackson for the stack was a flowers or took a craft.
20:47Oh, oh, I will go with the with the quarterback.
20:50Let's go with Lamar. It makes too much like getting Lamar back end of round five.
20:54We could get cute there. We could push him around the corner and hope that he comes back to us and we get a bit of value.
21:02I have seen Lamar fall into the sixth round of these kind of single quarterback one to five drafts.
21:08And every time that's happened, I've not been in a position to take him.
21:12So there's no point getting cute. I'm happy to take him and maybe took a craft does make it back around.
21:18But in these contests where it's best ball and where you can fill multiple flex spots with the tight ends, maybe took a craft doesn't come back around.
21:27If he does, is he is he very much at the top of the board?
21:31You see on the draft system there, 76 percent on the pick predictor.
21:35Trevion Henderson, Jamison Williams ahead of him. Similar range to Jadarian Price, Christian Watson.
21:39What are you kind of feeling? I mean, Sam Laporte, Kyle Pitts.
21:43I'm higher on Sam Laporte, but it's a good range to take our first tight end.
21:48Yeah, we've had about six teams still need a tight end is what coach is telling me in the draft room.
21:54And that's kind of why I did feel more comfortable taking the quarterback earlier because all the teams picking behind us still needed to draft quarterback.
22:02So it made more sense for us to punt tight end.
22:05I do think that craft is is firmly in play here.
22:08If we're really leaning into that hero RB build.
22:11Look, no one can tell exactly how crafts injury coming off of it will be.
22:15I do think it is bullish for those that can.
22:18I love Tucker craft and I feel like I'm the highest on him like the last two seasons.
22:24We were I remember drafting him in best football drafts new Tom like the 18th round when everyone was still pounding the table for Luke Musker.
22:31Like not do Tucker craft is the guy and Christian Watson.
22:35The fact that he came off his ACL injury last year and just immediately produced.
22:39I mean, they got to know something about these ACL injuries to suggest a target craft.
22:44Hey, this is what you need to do. He's also a freak freak of nature.
22:48And when he hits if he gets back up to speed in the second half of this season.
22:54Well, he could be a big game changer for us.
22:57So I'm always going to try to swing for the fences with some boom rust.
23:01I think craft has a little bit of that, but where he's going now in the middle of the sixth round.
23:07I think that he would be the pick if he's there.
23:11And of course, he'll probably end up getting one pick before us naturally because that's always what happens.
23:16Yeah. So since our pick on the turn, we're picking from a nine slot, Mike Evans, Parker Washington, Jameson Williams, Christian Watson,
23:22Drake May goes to the 111 team, Carnell Tate.
23:25And we're back up on the clock with our choice of Tucker craft, Kyle Pitts, Sam Laporte, Jadarian Price, Trevion Henderson, Andrew
23:32with 49 seconds left on the clock. Is there anyone you'd like to make a case for before we click Tucker craft?
23:38I know ECR likes Trevion Henderson, Warren, Jadarian Price.
23:41I feel like a lot of these running backs are also kind of falling in a similar like boom or bust type of build.
23:48And if I'm going to take a shot on a boom or bust player, it's like, well, let's take a shot on
23:55the format as well with tight end premium. So if craft hits in a big way, it's a massive swing in our favor.
24:01So let's go with craft singles. Yeah. Like Tucker craft, potentially we see like regression from an efficiency point of view.
24:08Like he has been an absolute yards after the catch monster for the last two seasons.
24:13Like if you sort by any kind of stats database and look at yards after the catch, he is out there massively ahead of everybody.
24:20And it's been that way for two years, but he's also had a 26% target share in the red zone last year.
24:26He was third in yards per out run, second in yards per target.
24:30Like I think that we can afford a little bit of regression with this Packers offense condensing around him a little bit more.
24:37I've been ahead of Kyle Pitts with Tucker craft all off season.
24:41I would take him as my tight end five ahead of Harold Fanning.
24:45It feels inevitable that maybe when he gets the contract bump and if he's ready for week one, then people are going
24:51to be pushing him a little bit higher as drafts close after that.
24:55Trevor and Henderson does go RB 25. He has fallen a little bit recently.
24:59And then Jonathan Brooks goes several spots before we'll see Tuba Hubbard taken.
25:03I mean, Tuba Hubbard's ADP is down at 87 and we just saw Jonathan Brooks go at 67.
25:08I mean, are we just getting a little too mean worthy there, Andrew?
25:12Man, the Jonathan Brooks hype train hasn't just left the station.
25:16It's 75% of the way there to its destination, which we're just hoping is, Hey, can this guy be a productive NFL running back?
25:23So I do think that the Brooks train there reaches a point where you're no longer benefiting from a potential breakout.
25:29I don't think this is going to be the case in more home leagues where I think Bronathan Brooks is still going to be a marquee sleeper.
25:37So I do want to be clear with that in best ball, the Brooks Hubbard conversation is going to be much different
25:44where when one of my more casual friends will ask me like, who's a running back sleeper?
25:49Jonathan Brooks is always my first guy I list because he will be a sleeper in these ESPN CBS more casual leagues in best ball.
25:56I think the market is just opening up to yeah, we really would rather bet on the upside case with Brooks as
26:03a pass catcher highly drafted out of Texas versus Hubbard who had zero explosive runs last year.
26:08And Tom, I know that you're always scooping a value.
26:11No, you haven't also, but you have not been the highest on Brooks, but does this make you want to draft more to the Hubbard?
26:18Exactly. Just kind of like looking at his, it doesn't make it.
26:22So like for me, it's like, again, just because you're low on, it doesn't just because I don't want to necessarily chase all the steam with Brooks.
26:30It doesn't mean I wanted to start drafting Cuba Hubbard because I see a lot of holes in his profile as well
26:36where it's like, maybe I just don't touch the Panthers backfield.
26:40The Brooks becomes too expensive and Hubbard is a player that I think is a running back who is not going to
26:46have his job for very, very long. Like we saw last year when he lost to Rico Dowdle.
26:51Yeah. In general, I've just kind of cooled on the Panthers offense in general.
26:56I'm not taking as much terror on McMillan as I expected to be.
26:59You know, I like Jalen Coker, but his price is getting fairly expensive compared to what it was when we started drafting these best ball teams.
27:07Like, you know, I was doing best ball teams in February this year.
27:11So now to look at the price that we're paying, it's a little more difficult.
27:16And ultimately, I just don't think that the Panthers are going to score a huge amount of points per game.
27:22I think that by the end of the season, there'll be bottom eight in points per game and arguing over two running
27:28backs who have a lot to prove isn't probably going to be the most useful point of our time.
27:34Like Jonathan Brooks has what, 45 total yards in the NFL, had one good season in college.
27:39And then there's a lot of projecting assuming what he could turn into.
27:43And I'm not denying there's upside there. I'm not denying that it's great to see him healthy, great to see him catching passes.
27:49But much like J'Kory Krosky-Meritt, Jonathan Brooks isn't somebody that we've ever seen good pass protection reps from.
27:55And if you get out there with a fragile quarterback like Bryce Young, with an offensive line which is banged up, they're
28:01missing both their tackles to start training camp. And now you're in the fire consistently with a head coach who's probably gone
28:08if he doesn't get a good season out of the Panthers.
28:11It's not hard to believe that at times he just wilts and ends up putting Tuba Hubbard in there.
28:17I mean, Tuba Hubbard was somebody they believed in.
28:20And obviously last year he was bad to start the year, but he was banged up.
28:24Rico Dowdle was playing well and beating up on bad run defenses.
28:28But they wanted to keep bringing Tuba Hubbard back into the fold.
28:31I mean, you go back to the playoff game against the Rams.
28:35Tuba Hubbard played 62% of the snaps that game.
28:38So I just think it's not as clear better as some people.
28:41RB 26 for Jonathan Brooks is too high for me.
28:44An interesting comparison talking about these environments. What if the Titans from last year is what the Panthers are this year?
28:50Where you have a backfield where Hubbard is in that Pollard role.
28:54You're seeing Brooks operate on passing downs. But both guys just eat into each other's workload so much that it makes them both useless.
29:01And because the offense itself can't... It's not the Rams that we're talking about where you have Kyron and Blake Quarrenble.
29:07The offense is good enough where they can support two running backs, especially in terms of positive game scripts.
29:13The Panthers have one of the toughest schedules in the NFL this season because they came in first place in their division last year.
29:20So I think, again, that is still more the pro case for Brooks because you expect him to be catching passes out of the backfield.
29:28Which makes it, again, even that much harder bet to make on Tuba Hubbard.
29:32But I do think that your point is really astute talking about how maybe there isn't just a league winner potentially from this Panthers running back.
29:40If Jonathan Brooks, all he does is overcape Tuba Hubbard.
29:43At this point now, it's like he has to not just overtake Tuba Hubbard.
29:47He also has to produce. Be a top 20 running back.
29:50Be a top 15 running back. Which, again, we still don't know because he really hasn't played that much.
29:56Well, look at it here. He goes ahead of Jadarian Price.
29:59Like, Jadarian Price had round one draft capital. Has a really impressive profile apart from the fact that he hadn't caught a lot of passes.
30:06But everything we're seeing out of Seahawks training camp is that they try to integrate into the passing game as much as possible.
30:13Well, Zach Charbonnet's injury, it sounds like he's going to be back sooner than people expected.
30:18But it still is a serious one. He could end up needing, you know, follow-up surgery.
30:23He could regress once he gets on the field.
30:25He could struggle with the mental side of it.
30:28Jonathan Brooks, we've seen literally nothing from. And he's going ahead of Jadarian Price.
30:32I think that's quite a difficult bet for me to make.
30:36But yes, we've spent a lot of time talking about Jonathan Brooks this year.
30:40So, at this point, I'm going to let the chips fall where they do.
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30:48They know what's up. We've got a couple of picks before our next pick.
30:52So, quickly, Andrew. Entman Sam, what do we think about Travis Echan in New Orleans upside or remains to be seen?
30:58I liked him a lot more earlier this offseason before digging into more of his red zone woes.
31:04I know that Rich Rebar has done a lot of great research on it, and he just was horrible at the goal line last year.
31:11So, that concerns me about a little more than I initially had a read on where they paid him.
31:17Yeah, he'll probably get the red zone opportunities. I'm not as confident that that's the case anymore.
31:22He is kind of the start of the running back tier, kind of in that 15 to 20 range, where I'd rather
31:29not be picking those running backs, to be totally honest, because I feel like I see problems in all of them, and I don't want to overinvest.
31:37So, I am a coward and just pick a wide receiver instead, besides picking one of these running backs.
31:42I do think that there is still top 12 upside, because Echan, when you just look at when he's been healthy, he
31:49always finishes as a top 17 type of running back.
31:52So, he has been productive, even though he's never been the perfect in terms of rushing metrics, in terms of a pass
31:58catcher, master of none, jack of all trades type of running back.
32:02I think that kind of summarizes Echan a little bit up this point in his career, but he has slashed a high
32:08ceiling, and I do think he can at least be more efficient rushing this year, maybe in a better system that's more suited to his skill set.
32:16I think the Saints got him for a reason for killing more of his offense, and Alvin Kamara is a declining rusher.
32:23Like, I don't want to not draft Echan because of Kamara as a skill player.
32:27It's more about just usage and deployment than anything else.
32:30Yeah, and Echan's going to be on the field a lot, and playing fast, up-tempo stuff, you tend to stay on the field.
32:37He should be fine, but perhaps kept. We're back on the clock.
32:41We have James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft.
32:45Feels like running back might be the play here, or potentially another tight end, if we want to really juice that position.
32:52The top of the draft assistant is pushing towards Chuba Hubbard.
32:55Andrew, anybody else you like here with 17 seconds left?
32:58I like RJ Harvey, especially if this Dobbins thing starts to linger.
33:01He already got banged up, so he's not going to get healthier as the season progresses.
33:06I mean, okay. Like, I'll give you that one.
33:09I'll be 31. The price kind of feels fine.
33:12I'm not an RJ Harvey fan. I think with Jonah Coleman and JK Dobbins, the combination probably caps him slightly.
33:17So sell me on him, Andrew. He was a running back who did one of the toughest things that rookie running backs
33:24did was catch passes as a rookie. He also scored over double-digit touchdowns.
33:28I think he scored 12 touchdowns last year. So that, to me, suggests, hey, that this guy they like to use around the red zone.
33:35And one thing I noticed, too, while doing more research about the Broncos' season last year, they had one of the easiest
33:42schedules to start the year, which also coincided with JK Dobbins having a very strong start.
33:47So when Dobbins went down, the schedule also got much harder against much tougher run defenses.
33:51So I know everyone rips on RJ Harvey because he'd be so bad as a rusher.
33:56Well, you know what? Dobbins probably would have been just, maybe not just as bad, but his rushing efficiency would have also
34:03fell off as well in the second half of the season.
34:06But he was injured, so we never really got to see that potentially play out.
34:10So I think that the Broncos, again, they have to open up to another tough schedule.
34:15I think that just leans more into RJ Harvey as a pass catcher out of the backfield and someone that sees a lot of red zone usage.
34:23So I like touchdowns. I like catching passes. Sure, if he can just improve a little bit as a rusher, then that's just gravy.
34:30But the high value opportunities that he's going to see in year two get me excited that him as outside the top
34:3730 running back, especially in best ball, where you know he can at least rip off big explosive plays.
34:43You don't always have to know when to start him.
34:46Hey, it's a strong argument. We'll clip that, shall we?
34:49RJ Harvey was our pick. Then Justin Herbert, Isaiah Likely, Jalen Hurts, Dallas Goddard, Rico Dowdle, Quentin Johnson.
34:54The draft assistant is begging us to draft Chuba Hubbard here.
34:57Andrew, the other top players are Dak Prescott. We could stack with CeeDee Lamb.
35:01We've got Kenny Gainwell, Trevor Lawrence, DK Metcalf, Rashad White, JK Dobbins, Alec Pierce, Jake Ferguson.
35:06What do you like? My highest ranked guy, pulling up my rankings here because you can use that with the Cheat Sheet Creator.
35:13It's actually Rashad White. I know that we're probably pulling him up a little bit, but Pittman, Lennon, Metcalf, those are guys that are up there for me.
35:21I just don't want Hubbard, so. We'll go Rashad White.
35:24I've made too many picks for head Jim Vajonathan Brooks, Chuba Hubbard situation.
35:28I just don't need that negativity in my life right now.
35:31So happy to just swing a different way instead.
35:34And through eight rounds, we have James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson stacked up, Titan 1 overall, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White.
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36:08After our pick, Dak Prescott does go QB9. I was pretty tempted to stack him up with CeeDee Lamb there and just be done at quarterback potentially.
36:16Andrew, was there any kind of lean towards that from yourself?
36:20I wasn't thinking quarterback that much just because I know that there's just so much depth at that quarterback position.
36:26And we obviously went early around quarterback going with Lamar Jackson.
36:29I think too, we still have in our back pocket, someone that I know you really like a lot and someone that
36:35I continue to try to grow on is Tyler Shuck.
36:38You know, stacking this Saints offense, high flying, you have dome conditions.
36:42They played the Detroit Lions week one. I'm telling you, everyone after week one is going to be like, Tyler Shuck is
36:49him when he faces that line secondary that still has injuries from last year.
36:53Here, the best ball bags, the DFS bags will be Saints, doubles, Tyson, Olave with Jay Moe bring back.
36:58Is that even English? I don't know, but it's going to be something that people are going to be doing a lot of.
37:05Hey, look, as an English man, I will give you a pass for that one.
37:10That works fine. Entman Sam in the chat saying, Rashad White is another running back I have on my Dynasty squad.
37:16It's super flexing his RB room is Bijan, Travis Ochan, Bucky Irving, JK Dobbins, Rashad White, Jordan Mason.
37:21I think I'm happy with them, but could be tempted to draft Coleman or the other rookie in Tennessee, which would be Nick Singleton.
37:28I think that's a really nice RB room. Andrew, anything that you'd be looking at there, would you be tempted to add
37:35another rookie running back where you'd take a shot on a wide receiver in a similar range to Coleman or Nick Singleton instead?
37:42I think that Coleman would be my number one option there.
37:45JK Dobbins, we know, is not built to last, and I know that he's already a little bit banged up, so you
37:52see his value just potentially skyrocket if Dobbins has to miss extended time either this year, next year.
37:57Coleman is a potential long-term investment for this Broncos run game, whereas Nick Singleton I think is more of kind of a
38:04shot in the dark with the Titans. I think that he's more day three pick, a lot of athletic upside, but it's coming off a foot injury.
38:12Pollard and Spears are both going to be free agents after this year, but there's also a chance that this Titans backfield just looks completely different in 2027.
38:20And they draft a running back in a much better running back class next year.
38:24So I think Coleman at least has some staying power beyond 2026, whereas Singleton I don't feel nearly as bullish about for his long-term career.
38:32So I would definitely go with Coleman there. Continue to build up those running backs.
38:36Yeah, one thing I like with Jonah Coleman that seemed noteworthy is like the Broncos didn't have many picks this year.
38:43They gave up so much for Jalen Waddell. And they were very keen on making sure that they got Jonah Coleman.
38:49Like it didn't feel that running back was necessarily a massive need.
38:52Like I know we're talking about J.K. Dobbins being a bit fragile, but they seem to really love him.
38:58Like Sean Payton's talked about how much of a priority it was re-signing him.
39:02But still, they went out and they drafted Jonah Coleman.
39:05So I would agree with you on that one there.
39:08I think that makes a lot of sense. But some of the news, let's talk a couple of little bits that we're
39:15kind of getting drip fed to us this week from training camp.
39:18Denzel Boston, starter of Browns training camp. Multiple reports calling him their best offensive player, which might not be the biggest compliment.
39:25But at 6'4", 212, like kind of that classic deep X-wide receiver, jump ball player, which could work well with Browns quarterbacks,
39:31you know, putting it up there and just hoping that a player's going to make a play on it.
39:37Is that enough for you in best ball? Is he somebody that you'd be interested in redraft or are you just trying
39:44to avoid the Browns offense in general? Yeah, he's tricky.
39:47He's not tricky to get excited about because you see the highlights from his college and you see the highlights at training
39:53camp where, man, this guy looks like an alpha wide receiver on the perimeter, on the boundary.
39:58But then you run into problems of, OK, well, how does this translate to fantasy production?
40:03We actually asked the question of how does this actually get us fantasy points?
40:07Get concerned. You've seen some of these guys, Tommy O'Hell Fannin, has been kind of dealing with an injury.
40:13So he's kind of pegged as the number one target on the offense in terms of just overall targets.
40:18Casey and Concepcion, the other guy that they drafted in this year's draft, also had been dealing with a shoulder injury.
40:25And then, of course, yeah, Dunstead Boston's, he better look better than Jerry Judy.
40:29Like, come on. Like, that's not exactly like a massive bar to pass for him.
40:33I do think that in best ball, though, his skill set fits pretty well because he's a boom or bust type of player.
40:40Probably going to make some big plays, probably going to catch some touchdowns.
40:44I think in redraft and some deeper formats, I think he's worth a bench stash to kind of see how things shake out.
40:51But until we get any type of stability from this Browns passing attack, I'm not going to overpay for him because I
40:57think when push comes to shove, I don't think avoiding a Browns player is going to be the reason that you lose
41:04your fantasy football league, especially when they open the year on the road, back-to-back matchups against Jacksonville and against Tampa Bay.
41:10Bad offensive lines don't travel. And until the Browns offensive line actually plays well, they can change the names and the backs
41:17of the plates as often as they want. I got to see them actually protect their quarterback.
41:22And especially if they start Deshaun Watson to start the year, like, ugh.
41:26Like, I don't know how many points this team's going to score.
41:29Yeah. I mean, to your point about the offensive line, like the left tackle that we drafted this year apparently hasn't even looked particularly impressive.
41:37So there's still a long way to go for this Browns team for me to have even a modicum of faith in them.
41:43Patrick Mahomes goes with QB12. Both Xavier Worthy and Rashi Rice still ramping up due to the injuries they've dealt with recently.
41:50Mahomes was somebody who started training camp and it was like, oh my God, Mahomes is going to be out there week one with no restrictions.
41:58Since then, there's a little more doubt kind of being put about there.
42:02A little more doubt about, like, how healthy he completely is, which seems fine.
42:06I mean, you know, he's well ahead of where most people expected.
42:09I'm sure it won't be much time if he misses any time.
42:13Hopefully we don't see Justin Fields on the field anytime soon.
42:16Straight after him, Brock Purdy goes. The power station is yet to get Brock Purdy, but it is getting everybody else.
42:22Are you interested in Debo Samuel? I mean, not yet.
42:25We're only just in the ninth round with two picks away, but is Debo Samuel back with 49ers alluring?
42:31I think he's much more alluring in redraft than in best ball because I've done this song and dance with him before
42:38where he is great for the first month of the year, but then everything falls off the face of the earth because he gets banged up.
42:45And then when he's not at 100% or 85% and there's no more yards after the catch available to him, he's just
42:52catching dump off passes for no yards. It can only move the needle so much for you.
42:57So I do think that structurally, if you're building a roster in a certain way where you invest in a lot of
43:04rookie receivers, maybe guys that are coming off of injuries where you're concerned about the front load of production.
43:09I can see Debo Samuel making a lot of sense in those types of formats, obviously in redraft where you can use
43:16him and then dump him or trade him when he starts to hit that wall.
43:20Because last year, all I remember was betting his unders at the end of the season, like every single week, because he
43:27could never get over like 40 yards. So that's kind of my read on Debo, very structural based pick.
43:32Okay. Well, we're back up on the clock. Top players by ADP, JK Dobbins, Alec Pierce, Dalton Kincaid, Kyle Mononga, Jared Goff,
43:39Jordan Mason, Wondell Robinson, Bo Nix, JCM, Jaden Reed, Kai Lemon, Michael Wilson, Aaron Jones.
43:43The draft assistants kind of leaning towards Kyle Mononga.
43:46I don't love him. We've got 23 seconds left.
43:49Anyone you want to pitch for? I like Kincaid.
43:51I like Kincaid. I think this is the healthiest that we've seen him.
43:55And I think he fits the FFPC scoring to a tee where it's the total amount of receptions a tight end is
44:02getting that moves the needle the most. Yeah, exactly.
44:05I think a lot of time people can see guys like Mark Andrews going as tight end 14 in this format.
44:11I'm not sure he's particularly a value over here on FFPC at the minute because the volume probably just isn't going to be there.
44:18It certainly wasn't there last year. Dalton Kincaid, when he's out there, always has really high target per out run metrics.
44:24Yes, it's been a little bit disappointing that he had a 63% snap share in his rookie year and then 57% and 38% over his last two.
44:32But he hasn't played fully healthy in either of the last two.
44:36So I'm willing to take a bet on him.
44:38I mean, when you get down to this level, do you really want to be looking at someone like Dallas Goddard, who
44:45went at tight end 12, who got a lot of gimme passes around the goal line?
44:50Like, I can't remember how many touchdowns he scored from inside for five when he had never been a threat at the
44:56goal line previously and had never hit double digit touchdowns previously.
45:00Or somebody like Dalton Kincaid, who, as you say, sounds like he's finally healthy.
45:04So yeah, I'm probably a little behind exposure on Dalton Kade and happy to grab him here as we head into the 10th round.
45:11We feel pretty balanced here. Doesn't feel like we've got any massive needs.
45:15We're down to QB 16 already. Bo Nix going off the board.
45:18A couple of picks before us. Wide receiver 42, Wondale Robinson.
45:22JK Dobbins went as RB 37. Somebody maybe not paying attention or somebody not scared.
45:26Alec Pearce going as wide receiver 41. A couple of picks after Michael Pittman, Chris Godwin.
45:31And we are back upon the clock. Kyle Mononga goes, which I'm not disappointed about.
45:35Not somebody I enjoy clicking. Andrew, the top players are Jordan Mason, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, Jaden Reed, Mackay, Lemon, Michael Wilson, Aaron Jones, Kyler Murray, Tyler Shook, Chigga Konkwo.
45:44What do you want to get involved with? I think we can punt off quarterback because a lot of other teams still
45:50have quarterbacks already, as you can kind of see on the board here with the purple.
45:55I like Jacoby Myers as a wide receiver, just underrated every single year and someone that I think we're going to get his points in our lineup.
46:03Pretty consistently an outpace where he's going here in the 10th round.
46:07So I like Myers. If I go running back, I like Jordan Mason.
46:10Let's go Jacoby Myers. You like Jacoby Myers over Tyler Shook?
46:14Even Shook's ahead on ADP? I don't know if anyone's going to take Shook.
46:18Where did Jordan Tyson go? I'll take Jacoby Myers.
46:21I'm fighting to bank on him. I don't take enough of Jack's wide receivers, really.
46:25In this draft, Jordan Tyson went at the 702.
46:28So it's kind of that two slot, really, that we need to keep an eye on to see where this one goes.
46:34In the chat, M-Man Sam, if you had to pick Burrow or Herbert, who would be more valuable long-term superflex formatting question?
46:41I love this question because people who roster Joe Burrow know that when he plays, it's great.
46:46But when he doesn't, it's going to be a pain to have to try and find a replacement.
46:51I mean, you can always find Joe Flacco. But Joe Burrow, I mean, the news out of Bengals training camp is that
46:58the Bengals defense looks like the more impressive unit.
47:00Obviously, I'll believe that when I see it when it comes to regular season games.
47:05But the Bengals are installing a lot more concepts, try to play under center, more play action stuff.
47:10They're really overhauling the offense in probably the most meaningful way they've done since Joe Burrow got there.
47:16Andrew, where do you fall on this, Burrow or Herbert?
47:19Because I mean, Herbert, I mean, Burrow, we've seen it consistently when he is on the field.
47:24300 passing yards, three touchdowns, more than pretty much any other quarterback.
47:27But Justin Herbert, it's always the if. Yeah, it's always the if with Justin Herbert.
47:32But I do think that this is the year for Justin Herbert where the planets align.
47:36I think that this is by far the most advanced offensive mind that he has worked with in his NFL career.
47:43And Mike McDaniel, I think, can get and squeeze an MVP season out of Justin Herbert.
47:47So I'm not trying to downplay the upside of a healthy Joe Burrow.
47:51But I think when we're talking about these guys next year, because I know that we always talk about like quarterbacks in
47:58three years who we're going to be ranking higher.
48:01All that matters is it really like when we're talking about 2027, who was better?
48:05And that's going to be the guy who has more value.
48:08And for me, I think Herbert is going to have a such a monster season where he's going to hold more value than Joe Burrow.
48:16He's also younger. He's 28 years old. Burrow is already 30, has been banged up, banged up way more than I mean,
48:22Herbert was the most hit quarterback last year and still played like the entire season.
48:27Like, like, like Burrow. I'm sorry. Like, I never want to question the toughness of any of these guys are all so, so tough.
48:34But like Burrow probably wouldn't have played as many games as Herbert did last year.
48:38Like Herbert, he was playing like games with a broken hand.
48:42Yeah. So Herbert for me. Well, Tyler Shook does go to the team who drafted Jordan Tyson out of the 102.
48:48Congratulations, Bob. Congratulations, Andrew. Shout out to NoCapMac joining us in the chat over here on Twitch.
48:53I'm actually drafting one of these teams with NoCap right now.
48:56He became the 5,000th follower of my channel, The Fantasy Sanctuary, and won himself a prize, including drafting one of these teams with us.
49:03We started among Rasen Brown, Kenneth Walker, George Pickens, Emekereg, Buka, David Montgomery, Sam Laporte, Jalen Hurts, Kenny Gainwell, Blake Curran, Jared Goff, and Juwan Johnson.
49:11So, Andrew, I'm not saying that this team isn't as good as the one with me and NoCap at drafting, but we've
49:18got to land the plane after that Tyler Shook disappointment.
49:21Have you got anything to say for yourself? You are a wise basketball drafter, Tom, and I need to listen to you
49:27more because you are, no, we've got to take Shook.
49:30He's got the higher ADP, and I'm like, no, man, I've got to get my guy, Jacoby Myers, but I'm already looking at potential alternatives.
49:38We can still take Jordan Love. We can stack him with Tucker Craft, so that's an option that we can also go into.
49:44Not as sexy as Tyler Shook, of course, but Jordan Love, hey, if they let him just throw the football a little
49:51bit more, he's got a lot of weapons to work with.
49:54The metrics, advanced numbers, love Jordan Love, very high in EPA per dropback.
49:58So I think that might be our alternative path here for our number two quarterback, if that's the direction we go in.
50:05No, and as much as I'll give you a hard time for it, I'm fine with it because otherwise we would have
50:11been entering round 11 with only three wide receivers, which feels a little bit thin.
50:16Jacoby Myers, definitely a fine option to have as your wide receiver four.
50:20We've got James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid and Jacoby Myers.
50:26So coming back up on the board, Makai Lemon's falling a little bit, obviously missing bits of training camp with injuries, missed
50:33a lot of the offseason with injuries. That starts to throw up a few alarm signals.
50:38Chico Conquo falling now because Stefan Diggs is with the commanders, whereas previously you probably would have seen him off the board
50:44around the point where our last pick was made.
50:47Brendan Strange, Joanne Johnson, Matthew Golden, Tyron Tracy, Malik Willis, Keaton Mitchell, Hunter Henry and Daniel Jones, who has been earning rave
50:54reports for reportedly being very healthy, having no limitations according to the Colts training staff, which seemed like a surprise for a guy coming off an Achilles injury.
51:02But yeah, I mean, apparently fully healthy, very good.
51:05And the more newsworthy note really is that Anthony Richardson looks like he could be the QB3 and potentially a cut candidate.
51:11Like, Andrew, obviously we haven't drafted Anthony Richardson any time recently, but it does make you feel a little bit sad, doesn't it?
51:18Yeah, it does. And I think it just goes back to this thing that young quarterbacks run into when they're injured.
51:24And instead of learning the playbook and the ins and outs of being an NFL quarterback, they're constantly rehabbing injuries.
51:30And I think that's really the biggest issue with some of these quarterbacks that have failed to fire at the next level where they're always rehabbing.
51:38And I think that you can talk about that with Trey Lance when he was banged up and Richardson has been banged
51:44up for a lot of his career. And even J.G.
51:47McCarthy, again, last year, he missed his entire rookie season.
51:50And then we had it struggled in his second year because he wasn't in the playbook all the time learning the offense.
51:57It was, oh, I get into rehab my season ending injury.
52:00And that takes away a lot of time that could be well spent learning things about playing NFL quarterback.
52:06So I think that's something that sometimes I think we as a community collectively maybe overlook a little bit when a guy's injured, especially with the quarterbacks.
52:14Well, the situation matters a lot. One guy who doesn't have a great situation, but obviously has massive upside is Malik Willis.
52:20I mean, we're staring down the barrel of QB here.
52:23It's Malik Willis, Daniel Jones is the same bi-week as Lamar Jackson.
52:27Otherwise, it's Sam Darnold, CJ Stroud. I think I'd prefer that this is probably a three QB build at this point.
52:33There's nobody I love enough to be comfortable with two QB.
52:37So we take Malik Willis and then see what happens later.
52:40Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, it's not the most comfortable one.
52:43Obviously, there's plenty of downside with Malik Willis. But when you look at what he's done in the games he's played, like
52:50I think in the games where he's played 60% or more of the snaps, he's been over 40 rushing yards in like a whole bunch of them.
52:58So I'm absolutely willing to take a bit of a risk at QB too.
53:02And then we'll lock in somebody in, you know, two or three rounds as QB three, who just gives us maybe a
53:08bit of a higher floor than Malik Willis. How are you feeling about the Dolphins training camp?
53:13Like, obviously, Chris Bell, not likely to be out there anytime soon.
53:17But it just seems like a different wide receiver that you've forgotten existed, pops up every now and again, catching passes from Malik Willis in training camp highlights.
53:25Greg Dulcich, there's not been huge amounts of hype for him.
53:29It seemed there was more hype from OTAs than we've seen in training camp.
53:33Yeah, I know that he had some positive reports, I think early in training camp, but then he got a little bit
53:39banged up, which is par for the course of anyone that's invested in Greg Dulcich over the years.
53:45He's been constantly banged up and obviously this year is no different.
53:48But we're back on the clock. Tyron Tracy, Hunter Henry, Makai Lemon, Chris Rodriguez, Sam Donald, Arunda Gadsden, Debo Samuel, Casey Concepcion, TJ Hawkinson.
53:55Anybody stand out? It's either Lemon or Higgins for me, because also, too, if that way we can maybe try to find
54:02Stroud as another quarterback option, maybe a little bit later on, we'll see.
54:06So we get the Higgins stack, that could be an option.
54:09Yeah, I'm good with that. I think Higgins is going to rise up.
54:13So that's one which I'm plenty happy to take a bit of a bet on.
54:17Sorry, just going back to Greg Dulcich, you're saying he's a bit banged up, but do you still believe in him?
54:24Because going back to some of the drafts we did, I think our guy Haynes, who was in some of our drafts,
54:30was taking him as high as tight end 18 in some drafts, and that felt a little aggressive.
54:36You were comfortable kind of taking him around tight end 20.
54:39That's the range we're kind of into. Jawan Johnson went tight end 17, Chico Concoe tight end 18.
54:44The guys coming up next at the tight end position, it is Hunter Henry, who just signed that new contract extension.
54:50Arunda Gadsden, who goes off the board, TJ Hawkinson, and then Greg Dulcich.
54:54Would you take Greg Dulcich ahead of Hunter Henry or TJ Hawkinson?
54:58Yes, I would. Because I think that he has a path to be the number one target on his team.
55:04I just don't think that there's any scenario where Henry or Hawkinson can fall into that bucket.
55:09I get that there's obviously opportunities where those offenses are just so good that they can outscore Dulcich, because Dulcich is a bet on volume than anything else.
55:17I think too, when it comes to Dulcich versus the other Miami Dolphins pass catchers, that to your point, it seems like
55:24every other report we get, oh, it was Malik Washington that had a big game or a big practice.
55:29And then it was Tutu Atwell, and then it was Jalen Tolbert.
55:33I think that does actually showcase, because I know that the Malik Willis reporting has been pretty positive.
55:38I think that does at least shed some light on, hey, like Malik Willis is making these guys look a lot better
55:45than we would should expect from just the names of these certain players.
55:49So I think that does paint a picture of Malik Willis pretty well.
55:53But I guess for me, it's thinking about what do I win when I win?
55:57If I'm right about Greg Dulcich being the number one pass catcher on the Dolphins, that benefits me so much in this
56:04format, because it's tight end premium, and he's gonna rack up a bunch of catches.
56:08Whereas, okay, like I hit on one of these random receivers, that doesn't help me or move me as much because it's
56:15just you hit on a late round wide receiver.
56:17I can hit on late round wide receivers that have nothing to do with the Miami Dolphins whatsoever.
56:23Whereas tight end, we're at a point in the drafts where there's only so many tight ends that can actually lead their
56:29team in targets, where it's even a possibility without a team just getting absolutely devastated by injuries across the board.
56:35So I think Henry obviously has a much higher floor.
56:38He's going to catch a, I think, a decent amount of touchdowns in this offense attached to Drake May.
56:44But to see him outpacing Brown, Romeo Dobbs, those guys are both red zone monsters.
56:48Eli Raritan has gotten a lot of hype coming out of Patriots training camp as well.
56:53So two tight end sets. I don't think Henry's gonna have this massive target chair in this offense, even if he is
57:00a good, reliable option for Drake May. I like that argument.
57:03I'm not the biggest Greg Dulcich fan. But for a guy who's only got three career touchdowns, the path is definitely going to be targets.
57:10No cap max in the nice thing about pairing Willis with Lamar is he does have the upside with rushing to outscore
57:17Lamar in some weeks when maybe it is the Derek Henry show for the Ravens.
57:21Very much like that point of view. Look, if you're enjoying this, then don't let the party stop.
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58:03So we are through 12 rounds in this FFPC $125 best ball contest.
58:07Picking out the nine slot, James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, classic hero RB build, taking
58:13our second RB in round seven with RJ Harvey, followed by Rashad White, Dolan Kincaid, doubling down on that kind of like
58:20tight end premium format, taking Tucker Craft and Dolan Kincaid in a few rounds together.
58:24Then Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, potentially setting us up for an out to CJ Stroud if we need it in the coming rounds.
58:32Andrew, how are you feeling about this squad? We're not going to get CJ Stroud.
58:36I just looked to see where Nico Collins was and he's on the team that has one quarterback.
58:41So. Fired Boss at pick seven has Jonathan Taylor, Devon O'Chan, Nico Collins, Tee Higgins, Quinshawn Junkins, Kyle Pitts, Ramondre Stevenson, Trevor
58:48Lawrence, Michael Pittman, Jacoby Krosky-Merry, Jawan Johnson, Casey Concepcion.
58:51I've been keeping an eye on this team and they're doing some stuff.
58:55They're picking good players at good prices, but not necessarily the sharpest kind of best ball picks along the way.
59:00There would have been good opportunities for them to take quarterbacks that stacked with their players and we've kind of passed it up a few times.
59:08So perhaps they're not prioritizing that sort of stuff.
59:11They're on the clock here with 60 seconds to make their pick and they do only have one quarterback.
59:17Bryce Young just went off the board. And of course, Andrew, you got this one right.
59:21CJ Stroud does go to that pick. So we're back on the clock.
59:25Tyron Tracy hit a bit of a fall there, but he doesn't make it all the way back to us.
59:31We're staring at Zach Charbonnet, Tajay Spears, your guy Greg Dulcich, Dalton Schultz, Isaiah Pacheco, Rashid Shaheed, Tyler Algier, Kenyon Sadiq, who
59:38we could always take and set up a Gino stack, Terrence Ferguson, AJ Barnett, Dylan Sampson, Tank Bigsby.
59:43What'd you like? I like Tank Bigsby. I think that he's got some pretty high upside.
59:48I think we can push him. If anything were to happen to Barkley.
59:52So if we can push him, I like Sadiq.
59:54I think he might fall too. Sampson. I like Omar Cooper a lot to take advantage of Sadiq being hurt.
60:00Maybe that means more for Omar Cooper Jr. Those are a couple of names I like.
60:05Okay. Let's take Kenyon Sadiq. You do want to make sure you've got enough tie ends in this format.
60:11Typically over the last few years, you're looking at four tight end builds have been prevalent with the best stats.
60:17So yeah, we've got Tucker Craft, Dalton Kincaid and Kenyon Sadiq here.
60:20We've got a little while before Gino goes off the board.
60:24I think that really ADP of 176, we're at pick 153 here.
60:27So Gino would probably be the hope for round 15, but I'm completely comfortable taking Tank Bigsby in the next round if he makes it to us.
60:35After our pick, it goes Dalton Schultz, Tyler Algier.
60:38The team on the turn takes Trey Harris for the first pick.
60:41And we're looking at Zach Charbonnet, Tajay Spears, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Pacheco, who's going to miss some time.
60:47We would expect him to fall. Jaden Blue goes off the board, followed by Denzel Boston.
60:51Dylan Sampson's the only other running back I really like in this range.
60:55Not taking much Zach Charbonnet. 40% of the experts are pushing towards Zach Charbonnet though.
61:00Andrew, do you want any exposure to Zach Charbonnet or are you lower than the consensus on him?
61:05I don't want Zach Charbonnet. I can't. Again, he's a player that wasn't winning because of his explosiveness or tackle breaking ability.
61:12He was just getting a lot of red zone opportunities.
61:15And now he's coming off a season ending injury in a backfield that invested a first round pick in another running back,
61:21Jeterian Price, who I think has way more juice.
61:24So for me, I would rather go with Dylan Sampson.
61:27I'd rather go with the, is Tank Bixby still available?
61:30Tank Bixby still available. Yeah, I'd rather go with Tank.
61:33I'm absolutely fine with that. I've taken a lot of Dylan Sampson and possibly should have taken some more Tank Bixby.
61:39The reports are incredibly good at a training camp that he's adapting to this new scheme very well.
61:44And I did a show recently with Sigmund Blum, the GOAT, who just couldn't stop raving about how he wanted Tank Bixby
61:51on every single team that he was drafting. Are you aggressively going after Tank Bixby or is he someone you've kind of come around based on reports?
61:59Well, it's this revisionist history thing, right? Where you look back at how great and efficient he was last year in this
62:06offense that it seemed like nobody had a good season for the Eagles last year offensively.
62:10But when you look at Tank Bixby, who again, he wasn't playing because Barkley got hurt or whatever.
62:16They just had him out on the field. And every time he touched the ball, he was ripping off explosive play after explosive play.
62:23So as one of the weirdest career arcs we've seen for a running back where rookie year, absolute nightmare, just horrible Caleb Johnson-esque.
62:30But then he bounces back year two and it's this guy's going to take over.
62:34He's going to dethrone Travis Etienne at the time.
62:37And then he gets traded to the Eagles the following season because they dropped HL Tootin.
62:42So just like a very bizarre career for him.
62:44But along the way, he has shown really big flashes.
62:47I know speaking as a Patriots fan, he destroyed the Patriots in London.
62:51Just an absolute monster. Tank Bixby, worthy of his name being Tank coming out of Auburn.
62:56So I think that right now, 14th round pick betting against Saquon Barkley, staying healthy for a full season as an older
63:02running back coming off again, still had a lot of touches last year.
63:06I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
63:09Billy Baruch saying, does Sutton go in the ninth based on last year's stats in this draft?
63:14He went at the wide receiver 38. I mean, for me, that feels completely fine for Cortland Sutton.
63:19Yes, it's touchdown upside. But Andrew, Billy Baruch is talking to two certified Jalen Waddell truthers, isn't he?
63:25Yes, for sure. I think the thing with Sutton is a lot of just forecasting because we saw the fall off last
63:31year in terms of just the second half of the season.
63:35Troy Franken was eating into this guy's targets, routes, red zone usage.
63:38And now it seems like Pat Bryant might be doing that.
63:41And Pat Bryant actually looks more like a Cortland Sutton type of receiver than Troy Franklin.
63:46And Troy Franklin, he was not good with his opportunities.
63:49Whereas Pat Bryant, at least limited time last year when he was healthy in the second half of the year.
63:55I mean, there was that playoff game where Pat Bryant had like five catches on the first drive and then he got
64:02concussed and got knocked out of the game. But I mean, Pat Bryant's a guy we're going to be talking about as
64:08we get into these later rounds of a player that second year receiver, I did not like him a lot as a prospect.
64:15He did way more than I thought he was going to do during his rookie season.
64:20And so far, the camp reports have been positive with him.
64:23And again, as much as we love Waddle here at Fantasy Pros, collectively, the guy has real estate in the blue medical tent.
64:30And it is the worst thing in the world because he seems like he's always battling or limping off the field and
64:37he's already kind of dealing with something in training camp.
64:39So again, I love his upside, but I've got to recognize that he is a bit fragile.
64:45And if he were to miss time, then the other receivers on this Broncos offense that we still expect to be prolific, they're going to benefit from that.
64:53Yeah. I think that sums it up quite nicely.
64:56We had a question in the chat. Camden season, is there any way I can leave a draft optimizer at Best Ball Drafts on DraftKings?
65:03I know thanks to producer Sal that it connects to Yahoo and BB10s.
65:07Not entirely sure about DraftKings. Andrew, do you know that one?
65:10I do believe we do not have the DraftKings optimizer set up for this year.
65:15I think it's something that we might be looking to add again in the future.
65:19But for right now, FFPC, the Yahoo, Best Ball Tens, those are the main ones that we have with the optimizer.
65:25However, I think that you can still add manually the rosters and you can get a league analyzer type of recap of it.
65:32You just won't be able to use the Draft Assistant live.
65:35However, you can still also too, but as like a side note, you can draft against the ADP in the mock draft simulator.
65:42So to kind of prepare yourself for, okay, like this is the first time I've ever done a DraftKings Best Ball draft.
65:49What am I getting into? Instead of, okay, burning a couple bucks, just, you know, 15 minutes, run through a couple of
65:55mocks, especially the early rounds against DraftKings Best Ball ADP, especially against the rankings, against ECR, kind of get a feel for it.
66:02And then you can jump into one of those rooms.
66:05You'll feel way more prepared. So we're in round 15.
66:08Greg Dulcich goes as tight end 28. I mean, that feels like value.
66:12Terrence Ferguson, AJ Barner, KDOT, and Pat Fryer move.
66:15Greg Dulcich and Gunnhelm go in a sea of purple over here on FFPC, but a sea of red on the Draft Assistant.
66:22Our team so far, we've got two quarterbacks, four running backs, five wide receivers, and three tight ends.
66:27Obviously, tight end will probably potentially be able to take another dart throw in the last couple of rounds.
66:33Quarterback, it'd be nice to get a third quarterback, but running back and wide receiver.
66:37We've got four running backs, five wide receivers. Andrew, how do you kind of see this team structurally and what we might
66:44need to fill it out with over the next few picks?
66:47So I think that we have been flexible enough where we can kind of go towards a BPA.
66:52I think that getting a third quarterback is obviously important.
66:55I know you talked about Geno Smith. I have no issues just kind of taking him off the board here and making
67:02sure that we get our third quarterback. We have a stacking partner with one of our tight ends, a Kenyon Sadiq.
67:08We can even look at a player like A.D.
67:11Mitchell, I think, is still available on the board as another wide receiver pairing.
67:15I mean, A.D. Mitchell, man, that guy's good at football.
67:18I don't know if he's good at anything. And sometimes that's enough.
67:21So I think getting some, again, getting Jets players, but maybe that's the direction we go to.
67:26But I do think getting that third quarterback matters a lot because do we want to do the Browns game where it's pick your Browns quarterback of choice?
67:35I mean, I'm never going to draft Deshaun Watson.
67:37I would rather just bet on Shader Sanders. But again, I feel much better about Geno than either of those guys.
67:44And then maybe we can get Dylan Sampson to fall back to us.
67:48I know the experts like him a lot here, and I know that we are both big fans of Sampson.
67:54Yeah. Well, one thing which we haven't talked about is a breakout that's happening consistently day in, day out.
67:59The beat reporters of this team can't believe this player is playing to the standard he is called here.
68:05One beat reporter who'd covered this team for 30 years said he was one of the most impressive rookies he's ever seen.
68:11That's Jacoby Lane of the Baltimore Ravens. I didn't see this come in.
68:15Geno Smith gets drafted by the team who took CJ Stroud off us as well.
68:20So it doesn't feel like an area where we should be going towards quarterback room, but Jacoby Lane would stack nicely with Lamar Jackson later.
68:27We are one pick away. Jalen Naylor goes right before us.
68:30The quarterback situation, it's not fun. It is Fernando Mendoza, Tua, Shadir Sanders, Kirk Cousins, Carson Beck.
68:36I don't want to be wasting the draft pick on these guys right now.
68:40We could take Dylan Sampson, Brian Robinson, Travis Hunter, Ryan Flournoy, Fernando Mendoza, Justice Hill, Omar Cooper, Jerry Judy, Jawan Jennings.
68:46Mylene's Dylan Sampson. What about you, Andrew? Mylene is also Dylan Sampson.
68:50So we'll get the Sampson-Shadir Sanders stack later in the draft.
68:53So let's go with Sampson here. Hey, I know this isn't a super flex, guys.
68:57We'll be okay. We'll be okay with these quarterbacks.
69:00Yeah, definitely. And Deer over here kind of does tilt towards three QB builds slightly ahead of kind of two QB or four QB builds.
69:07So we don't need a lot here. It would have been nice to have another good quarterback.
69:12But if Malik Willis goes out there, if Lamar Jackson has a QB two season, then we're probably okay.
69:18But yes, it would have felt a little more comfortable.
69:21But hey, sometimes in fantasy football and best ball, you have to be comfortable getting uncomfortable.
69:26How high are you willing to chase for Jacoby Lane train?
69:29Not that high, to be honest. I thought that Surratt was a better overall prospect than Jacoby Lane.
69:34Now the Ravens disagreed with me because they took Jacoby Lane first and Elijah Surratt second.
69:39It kind of reminds me a little bit of when Romeo Dobbs was the bell of the ball at Packers camp and nobody cared about Christian Watson.
69:47And then when they played on the field, Christian Watson was like superiorly and so much better.
69:52Now that was a little bit different because Watson was still drafted first.
69:56So, and haven't the Ravens done this before where the guy they draft first is not the best guy?
70:02And it's the guy that they draft second that actually ends it being the David again, not to make the Hayden Hurst
70:08Lamar Jackson comparison, but like they do this all the time.
70:12So I think that at least makes him draftable because I think that's something that he wasn't being drafted in every format.
70:18And because we have Lamar Jackson, I mean, I don't mind spending a 17th, 18th run pick on a rookie receiver that
70:25has some red zone juice and again, not a bad prospect in his run.
70:29I just, I thought Surratt was better personally. So we're back on the clock.
70:33Uh, Travis Hunter, Ryan Flournoy, Justice Hill, Omar Cooper, Jerry Judy, Jawan Jennings, Braylon Allen, David Njoku, AD Mitchell, Ray Davis, Malik Washington, Calvin Ridley.
70:41What are you liking this range? I mean, if we took Justice Hill, we'd be pretty good at running back for, you
70:47know, maybe one more pick at most if we needed to, but six could be potentially done.
70:52Or do you like one of the wide receivers with 14 seconds?
70:56I like Omar Cooper. That's the guy I have ranked high as either Omar Cooper or AD Mitchell.
71:01Just let's get some Jats players in here, especially if Sadiq is missing time.
71:05Then one of these receivers should pick up the slack.
71:08So I'm good with Omar Cooper. Uh, reports at training camp suggest Gino Smith has looked not, not necessarily excellent.
71:14That might be getting a little too far ahead, but Jets beat reporters can't stop talking about how good the offense looks.
71:21And part of it might be Jets defense is probably going to be pretty bad this year, but it seems like they're
71:27getting competent quarterback play, which isn't something we've always been able to say.
71:31For the Jets. I mean, we've rarely been able to say for the Jets.
71:35I know a lot of people were very down on Gino Smith coming out of Las Vegas, but so much of that
71:42came back to the bad offensive line. The Jets on paper have a good offensive line.
71:47Obviously when the tackles start flying, things can change, but getting Omar Cooper here, wide receiver 67 feels pretty good.
71:53I'm fine with that. We are starting to load up a little bit on week 13 buys, just something to be slightly mindful of.
72:00We've got Lamar Jackson, Zay Flowers, Omar Cooper, and Kenyon Sadiq.
72:03So it's not drastic, but we probably can't go too heavy with Ravens wide receivers to round things out.
72:09I mean, hey, that's fine. I'm going to be all right.
72:12So through 16 rounds, we have James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White,
72:18Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, Kenyon Sadiq, Tank Bixby, Dylan Sampson, and Omar Cooper.
72:24The quarterbacks are falling elsewhere. Andrew, at this point, I think we're probably just looking at a 2QB build.
72:29Either 2QB build or we add Mendoza because I think that he's going to start games in the second half of the season.
72:36I mean, Michael Penix too, like he goes so late where we could probably even just like grab him in like the 20th round.
72:43Honestly, it's like that he's just like a viable player.
72:46But to your point, we don't need to prioritize quarterback in any way, shape or form.
72:51And worst case scenario, we just run it with Willis and Lamar Jackson and just, hey, rushing quarterbacks.
72:56We'll see how things shake out because again, none of these other guys are guaranteed any types of longevity starting wise.
73:03Willis with Mendoza, or actually not Mendoza's, he's, no, he's already gone.
73:06So yeah, it doesn't even matter. So yeah, definitely then we're not touching quarterback.
73:10Yeah, we're through 32 quarterbacks at this point in the draft.
73:14We're through 68 wide receivers. We're through 58 running backs and 30 tight ends.
73:18So definitely getting down to the dregs as we head towards round 17.
73:22M-Man Sam, truly appreciate all your questions tonight. Do either of you have any late round rookie draft sleepers?
73:2710 team league super flex. Also, I can see a path for Beck to become this year's Tyler Shook if the cards fall right this year.
73:35I'm a lot cooler on Carson Beck. I think as a prospect, I really didn't enjoy his profile.
73:40I didn't enjoy watching his film. So I'll let you take the charge on that one.
73:45But as far as late round rookie draft sleepers, Andrew, who are some of your favorite guys?
73:50But the rookie sleepers, I know that Cyrus Allen is someone that's still ranked really, really low on a lot of these
73:57draft sites just because he didn't have a lot of, he was still someone that I was very much like, Hey, we
74:03got to keep tabs on this player. And the fact that he's been really buzzy at training camp, and maybe this is
74:10just Justin Ross or Jalen Royals, like it's like the same thing with the Chiefs and his rookie receivers that always bomb.
74:16As someone astutely pointed out to me on X, and I'm thinking, man, you're not wrong here, but I'm still going to
74:23do it again anyway, because I liked Cyrus Allen's prospect profile a ton.
74:27I thought it was really, really cool. I did a thread on him.
74:31So go check out on my X account at Andrew Erickson underscore.
74:34But I thought that it was really intriguing. And the fact that the opportunity is there for him, man, like Rice banged
74:41up, Worthy's banged up, Kelsey's 37 years old. They got to throw the ball to somebody, right?
74:46And if he's out there, maybe he can make the most of it.
74:50So I know this means type one Thornton season breakout is most guaranteed going to happen.
74:54But Cyrus Allen to me is someone that I like getting in late in some of these rookie drafts, especially because he's
75:01just buried in a lot of those rankings. Yeah.
75:04Adam Randall worth considering for the Ravens slightly Seth McGowan for the Colts seems like he's completely taken the RB2 job away
75:10from DJ Giddens, which wasn't something I expected. I thought DJ Giddens had enough talent that he would be able to win
75:17that one, but it doesn't sound like it's happening.
75:19Jacoby Lane, who we already mentioned, Eli Raradon, who's had really good reports throughout training camp and even going back to earlier in the offseason at OTA.
75:27So I like all of those. Haynes, good evening.
75:30Appreciate you catching up with us and watching tonight.
75:33Haynes, this is our team. Let us know how we are doing.
75:36James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis,
75:43Jaden Higgins, Kenyon Sadiq, Tank Bigsby, Dylan Sampson, and Omar Cooper with four picks left to go.
75:48And DashRiotX, appreciate you too. We are having a great time over here on Twitch and make sure you let the people
75:55at Fantasy Pros know if you want to see more Best Ball content, if you want to see it on the YouTube channel.
76:01If you want to see it on the website, you've got to let them know.
76:06Tell them that you need me and Andrew drafting more teams in your life and we will try and make it happen.
76:12I think the next time that we're going to be drafting myself and Andrew, are we going back head-to-head in the Superflex streets, Andrew?
76:20Oh yeah. We've got to end it on a high note.
76:23Going head-to-head. None of this team crap. Yeah. So all I hear there is Andrew's taking Drake May at 102.
76:29Basically. Got to stay on brand. So one thing I think that some people don't consider is the shift from Best Ball to Redraft.
76:36Like around this time of year, do you find it a little bit of a mind melt to go from, okay, I've drafted so many Best Ball teams.
76:44We've drafted so many different teams where the ADP is completely different to home leagues.
76:49How do you kind of like readjust to those different settings?
76:52I think that taking a break from Best Ball drafting is actually really helpful in terms of like shifting your focus into redraft.
76:59And I think that the mock draft simulator helps a ton with that, especially when you sync up your league and you
77:05practice drafting from the slot that you know you're going to be in and you're drafting two weeks.
77:11We just pulled the draft slots for one of my buddy's leagues.
77:14I'm picking the 11th spot. So, you know, whenever I'm doing any of these mock drafts on the Fantasy Pros podcast, YouTube
77:21feed, I'm picking from that 11th spot. I want to know to a T exactly who's going to be there based on the ADP.
77:28And I think that's a lot different from Best Ball where it's a little bit more of building your portfolio.
77:34Also too, you got to remember, you got to start these guys.
77:38You got to make start sit decisions. It's not just you take the best weeks and you don't have to worry about
77:44the bad weeks, waiver wire options, and early season schedule.
77:47I think that matters a lot. Starting out the season on a high note is very, very important.
77:52I think because that's what you remember the most.
77:55You draft a busted player. Usually that's because they were just bad to start the year the first four weeks of the season.
78:02Even if they improve in the second half, nobody remembers that.
78:05Everyone just remembers how bad they were to start the year and they get labeled bust.
78:10So those are a couple of things I look at when kind of making the shift from Best Ball into redraft.
78:16Yeah, I like that. I think that makes a lot of sense.
78:20I write a series for fantasypros.com on how to draft from each slot, which pretty much you go on the website, you'll
78:26find one of them most days of the week.
78:29And I haven't started writing that from June. In June, we're kind of talking more Best Ball ADP because the data is just not there.
78:36There's not a lot of redraft going on. By the time we get to this point in the offseason, I can go
78:43back and look at my June versions of how to draft from the 106 versus August 106.
78:48And the changes are massive because people drafting at this time of year, they just want to move towards different things.
78:54So it's worth zooming out, looking at the ADP trends, looking at the ADP for your platform in particular.
79:00And like Andrew says, using the draft assistant. So plenty of good stuff there.
79:04We're two picks away and we're in a pretty good position.
79:07I like a lot of what we've done so far.
79:10AD Mitchell is available to us. Malik Washington, Calvin Ridley, Emmitt Johnson, Isaac Tesla, Kalen Black, Keishon Booty, Antonio Williams, Rashad Bateman,
79:17Katron Fatman Allen, Jake Tongs, Kamani Vidal, Jordan James, Zachariah Branch.
79:20You said plenty of smoke about him. Andrew, what do you see?
79:24What do you say? I like Singleton. If we want to go running back here, just, you know, taking a shot on a rookie running back receiver.
79:32We saw Mitchell went off the board. Malik Washington's off the board.
79:35Yeah. I mean, we can take one of your Ravens guys as, as your, uh, if you want to just continue to
79:42build into that Raven stack, uh, James Conner is too good and running back.
79:46Maybe he gets traded. Yeah. I think James Conner will make it back for a little while.
79:51Let's go Nicholas Singleton. I think that works. That's fun.
79:54And then I think we're definitely done at running back there.
79:57We've now got a running back room with James Cook, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Tank Bixby, Dylan Sampson, Nicholas Singleton, after only
80:04taking one in the first six rounds. So maybe, maybe I'll let you talk me into one more running back.
80:10Uh, DashRiteX saying, Raradon, a dart throw for me.
80:13Not into him this year, but going forward, he's a mad interesting prospect.
80:16Absolutely. Yeah. I think that that's a, particularly for Dynasty League is going to be interesting.
80:21Keep watching though, cause there's a good chance that Andrew's going to try and talk me into taking him in the 20th round.
80:28Well, I, I, I will, I won't be, I won't be doing that cause I'm going to have to run soon.
80:34So, cause I got another show I'm going to be doing.
80:38So Tom, you're going to have to steer the ship with the final picks here.
80:42So I know, so I know it's going to be a lot of Ravens to, to finish up here, but we'll make
80:49this one last pick together and then, uh, you'll have to bring us home.
80:53Well, Cyrus Allen goes two picks before we're on the board, three picks before we're on the board.
80:58Since our last pick, it was Michael Mayer, Samarji Piran, Isaac Tesla, Calvin Ridley, Catron Allen, of course, Cyrus Allen.
81:04Do you want James Conner as your last pick here before I completely put the finishing touches on this team?
81:10I don't think so. Cause I think you just made a good point about how many running backs we already have.
81:16And we're probably in a good spot there. So like in the James Conner thing seems like such a wild card of,
81:23okay, like maybe he gets on a new team, but the Cardinals seem like they're obsessed with his like leadership and they
81:29want to keep him on the roster. Yeah. So, uh, maybe that's not the direction to go.
81:34If we wanted to go with another wide receiver here, let's see.
81:38Uh, so looking at wide receiver with eight seconds left, Kayshawn Booty, Antonio Williams, Richard Bateman, Zechariah Branch, Donovan, Keenan Al.
81:44Let's just do Jacoby Lane. Jacoby Lane. Let's bring him home.
81:48Let's bring him home. James Conner. I don't pick.
81:50Andrew, that wasn't the note we wanted to wear this draft on, but he was to clear value.
81:56That's fine. Getting him at RB66. James Cook, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Tank Bixby, Dylan Sampson, Nicholas Singleton, James Conner.
82:02Andrew, you get out of here and I will steer the ship all the way home on this one.
82:07And I guess I'll just have just an extra $20,000 more of the $400,000 that we leave here with.
82:13So chat, I'm going to give you guys an opportunity to make a pick here.
82:17I'm going to let one of you in the chat make a pick.
82:21If you can tell me, first person to tell me what team Van Jefferson is on gets to decide who we pick with the 19th round pick.
82:29Van Jefferson. What team is he currently on? Because I was surprised.
82:33I was surprised he was signed to a team.
82:35We get down with the dregs. It's a lot of fun.
82:39And Ed Manson going with Titans, which is incorrect.
82:41Although he did a tiny bit of success there a couple of years ago.
82:46Haynes has got it. The Washington Commanders. Van Jefferson currently wide receiver four behind.
82:50Traylon Burks, I guess. Haynes, let me know where we're going with the 19th round.
82:54Give me a couple of guys to queue up.
82:57I'll let you know some of the guys we've got at ADP at the minute.
83:01It is. Caelan Black, Keishon Booty, Antonio Williams, Rashad Bateman, Kamani Vidal, Zachariah Branch, George Helani, Donald Mooney, Eli Stowers, Keenan Allen,
83:08Cooper Cup, Jeremy Bernard, Ted Hurst, who's having a really strong camp.
83:11Tyquan Thornton, Ty Johnson, Torrey Horton, Imari Di Mercado.
83:14Let me know. Ed Manson saying Ted Hurst is an intriguing pick.
83:18Haynes wants Keenan Allen and Ted Hurst in the queue.
83:21So let me get those put in there. I've drafted a lot of Keenan Allen, just assuming that he's going to end up with somebody.
83:28It sounds like the links with the Colts sooner or later it's going to happen.
83:33I mean, obviously Josh Downs missing a bit of time.
83:36Alec Pearce, the news today that he's not even particularly close to being back out there.
83:40Ted Hurst goes off the board. Well done, Haynes.
83:43You jinx yourself on that one. So now we're hoping that Keenan Allen makes it back to us as what we have six wide receivers already.
83:51We have CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Jacoby Myers, Jaden Higgins, and Omar Cooper.
83:55So we could do with wide receivers here. I'll potentially look at the tight end position in the final round since our
84:02last pick where we took James Connor, Andrew's final pick, as he panicked and shouted about Jacoby Lane.
84:07Jake Tongs, then Jacoby Lane, Demon Claiborne, Mason Taylor, Darnell Washington, Jordan James, Emmett Johnson, Caelan Black, Antonio Williams, Zachariah Branch, George
84:14Alani, Ted Hurst, Kamani Vidal, Malachi Fields. Anybody drafting much Malachi Fields with the Giants situation, what it is?
84:19Obviously if Malik Neighbors gets out there fairly early, that really caps, I think, the ability for anyone else to be relevant of the wide receiver position.
84:27Isaiah likely I still feel pretty good about. Yeah, M-Man Sam saying Stribbling is another wide receiver that he feels good about in this draft.
84:35Let's see, where did Stribbling go? 13-02, all the way up here.
84:38Like, that is definitely a big jump based on the Ricky Peircell news of last week.
84:43Mike Evans did fall slightly down to wide receiver 27 in this one due to, I think it's a quad strain or
84:50something mild, but expected to be back out there soon, so that should work out all right.
84:55Haynes, as the winner of the inaugural best ball question Q&A, we're back on the clock.
85:00I'm going to assume that you want Keenan Allen and take him for you.
85:04I'm just glad you went with somebody good there.
85:06So, with one more pick in this $125 entry best ball draft, James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zae Flowers, Lamar Jackson,
85:13Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, Kenyon Sadiq, Tank Bigsby, Dylan Sampson, Omar Cooper,
85:19Nicholas Singleton, James Conner, and Keenan Allen. This feels like a pretty good roster to me.
85:24I would have liked if one of Jacoby Lane or Rashad Bateman was stacked with Lamar.
85:29I think that we're going to see plenty of fun players, fun games for the Ravens under this new offense.
85:35A lot of tight ends going off the board on the corner.
85:39Eli Raradon, Elijah Royal, Charlie Kohler, followed by Demario Douglas.
85:41Plenty of fun for him. And Week 17 bring back Haynes to say it in the chat for Eric Hall.
85:47Finish this draft out with Eric Hall. Why not?
85:50We need another tight end, really, this format. Quite often you need four tight ends.
85:55So, we finish with a $400,000 team that looks like James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, paired with
86:01Eric Hall for the Week 17 matchup. Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, Kenyon
86:08Sadiq, Tank Bigsby, Dylan Sampson, Omar Cooper, Nicholas Singleton, James Conner, Keenan Allen, and Eric Hall.
86:12It's this year that he stays healthy. This was a lot of fun.
86:16Truly appreciate the fact that everybody hung out. Appreciate everybody who stuck around, even after Andrew Erickson had to bail.
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