0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. That 1.5 points per tight end catch goes over 106.
0:05Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey all gone. Top of ADP, it's now looking like JSN, Ashton Gentry, James Cook, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee
0:12Lamb, Omari and Hampton, Chase Brown and Trey McBride.
0:14We've got 38 seconds so we can take a little bit of a breath.
0:18What do you want to do with this first pick?
0:21It's either JSN or James Cook for me when it comes to if we want to do structurally with the receiver or running back.
0:29So is there one you have less exposure to that you kind of want to lean into?
0:34I did tweet about James Cook today so maybe that's a sign that we get in the kitchen here and go the Bills running back.
0:41Well, I tweeted about Monroe St. Brown yesterday and we can talk about that in a minute.
0:46And part of that was being less high on JSN.
0:49So let's take James Cook because I don't take James Cook very often.
0:53But yeah, so firstly, Andrew, how are you doing?
0:56You doing well? There's there's no time for how are you?
0:59It's August. It's in the peak of fantasy football season.
1:02So it's all about getting to the nitty gritty.
1:05But Tom, I'm doing excellent. Great time to be alive here.
1:08This is this is the time for us to shine.
1:11Crunch time. Some people even might say so absolutely loving it.
1:14But yeah, I also did see that post that you made about JSN.
1:18And for him, it's like the perfect run out last year.
1:21You have the exchange or trade off an offensive coordinator.
1:24What's that going to do for him? And maybe you see a player like Rashid Shaheed maybe does actually take on a larger role in this office.
1:32Jason doesn't have a near 30 percent target share.
1:35Yeah, I mean, look, I'm still pretty high on JSN.
1:38I would have been comfortable taking him there versus James Cook, but it's a lot closer.
1:43The more I've drafted and part of that is I've flipped the Monrard St.
1:47Brown ahead of JSN in my rankings. Like the Monrard top three in PPR points per game in each of the last
1:53three seasons, top five in total points in each of them.
1:57The Lions defense continues to look really bad. The Lions have easy strength of schedule, according to sharp football.
2:02And that just feels like a really strong situation.
2:05Meanwhile, JSN loses Kubiak to the Raiders. And so much what JSN did well last year was on those downfield passes.
2:11Like he had four receiving touchdowns on passes, which were 20 plus yards downfield, had a 60 percent catch rate, which is really high.
2:18And if you get any kind of level of regression there, if Rashid Shaheed gets integrated more, it just feels a little bit iffy to me.
2:26But look, we're back upon the clock since our last pick.
2:29JSN did go one pick later. Chase Brown, Ashton Gentty, Kenneth Walker, Trey McBride and Amari in Hampton.
2:35I feel pretty comfortable with CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, Saquon Barkley, any of those guys you want to bang the table for the most, Andrew?
2:42I think it's probably going to be Lamb for me or I mean, A.J.
2:46Brown is tough here to kind of reach for a little bit.
2:50So and I know that you'll push back against that.
2:53So CeeDee Lamb, I think the safety, the floor with him is really, really high, even if maybe we didn't see the
2:59ceiling outcome last year with George Pickett's like we maybe wanted to.
3:03But a lot of that was touchdown based. So if Lamb just runs a little bit harder with touchdowns in an offense
3:10that we're excited about, I think Lamb is a really strong pick here.
3:13Yeah, well, let's go and lock in Lamb. If you're watching this and you haven't seen any of our fantasy pros best
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3:28We've synced this up so that we can use the FFPC draft, run it through our draft assistant in real time, gives
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3:41and ADP, all the things that matter in best ball.
3:44And Andrew, part of that is why I just didn't want to pull AJ Brown up quite that high.
3:49Like I know that as a Patriots fan, you're very much kind of all in on this AJ Brown and Drake May
3:56experience, but I'm just I'm not willing to pull him ahead of Justin Jefferson or CeeDee Lamb yet.
4:01Is that how far you're willing to push him?
4:04I'm definitely willing to push him above Justin Jefferson because I think that the quarterback concerns with the Vikings are still a projection.
4:11We're hoping that Kyler Murray can be better for Justin Jefferson.
4:14I think that that's very much possible and likely that they're going to get better quarterback play.
4:19But what if it's just a little bit better and you're then sacrificing the upside where AJ Brown and Drake May, man,
4:26I am so excited about that being a elite pairing, whereas Kyler Murray, I think I don't know if anyone's imagining it
4:32as this is going to be an elite pairing where it's like it's just going to be better than it was last year.
4:39So I do think that Lamb does kind of check off all the boxes of there's no projection in terms of, well,
4:46we've seen Lamb be the wide receiver one with Dak Prescott before.
4:49Like there's no projection there. It's just, okay, the George Pickens impact.
4:53I think that worst case scenario with Lamb is, okay, yeah, he's like a back end wide receiver one.
4:59But that's still a really, really strong investment here in round two when we know the upside with him is because last
5:05year Pickens obviously benefited from Lamb missing time. What if Pickens misses time?
5:09And then your Lamb is right back into that number one wide receiver territory.
5:13I remember looking at how old he was and thinking, man, CeeD Lamb is that young.
5:18I think he's only 26 or 27 years old.
5:21And I was actually surprised because he's obviously been in the league for a while now and just been very, very productive.
5:27So I do think if you are trying to value safety here, and I think that in best ball formats, you know,
5:34having guys that are in your lineup every single week, not busting, where I think there's way more bust profile, even with
5:40AJ Brown as excited as I am with him.
5:43It's still something new between him and his quarterback.
5:46We've seen this before with Lamb and Prescott for multiple years work out.
5:49Yeah. And when the two of them on the field, the Cowboys play at such a fast rate of play that I'm
5:56always going to be comfortable betting on that offensive environment.
5:59I know it's not for everyone, but I'm willing to.
6:02I'm Prezzy. Appreciate you hanging out with us over here on Twitch.
6:06Mr. Primetime saying CMC injured. Look, if you're wish casting or if you're just telling me something which isn't out there, I'm
6:12not going to welcome either of those things. But I appreciate you being here and shout out to 50 something, one of
6:19our new followers over here on Twitch. If you are catching the audio version every other Monday, myself and Andrew out here streaming, it's all good.
6:26So, yes, through two rounds, we have seen Brock Bowers, Trey McBride and Colston Loveland go off the board.
6:32If you're unfamiliar with FFPC, it is a tight end premium.
6:35It's a full PPR format, but that tight end premium of an extra half point per catch does really push some of
6:42the top end players up the board. We will be drafting some tight ends towards bottom of the draft who you will
6:48not see drafted in your normal leagues. It's one quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, one tight end and then two
6:55flex spots, which can be either running back wide receiver or tight end.
6:59$125 entry, $400,000 up top, second place is $100,000, third $30,000 and fourth 15.
7:03It drops off fast. So this is all about aiming for the perfect, perfect outcome.
7:07After week 14, the top two scoring teams from this regular draft will move on to the next one.
7:13Same again in week 15, same again in week 16, all the way to the week 17 final with 96 other teams
7:20where myself and Andrew, with our team, we'll be taking down 400,000.
7:23Andrew, we've drafted a whole bunch of super flex teams, but we haven't done as many in the single quarterback league.
7:29So it's nice to be in here and not having to worry about quarterbacks up at the top and really be able
7:36to just dig in on the player takes. Malik Neighbors goes wide receiver 11, just around the 2-3 turn here.
7:42And I've seen Malik Neighbors go at the 2-12 this weekend.
7:45And how high are you willing to chase him up the board as like, we've seen a bunch of different reports.
7:51Like, you know, he's looking okay. He's ahead of schedule.
7:54He might make week one, but also he's not fully participating.
7:58You know, it's still a little bit sketchy. Yeah, not participating fully in team drills, I believe, is the main report where he's doing individual stuff.
8:05He's out there running, cutting, catching passes. I think that him being on the field week one is obviously a good indication
8:12of his health being farther ahead of schedule. But there are still other hurdles that he has to overcome.
8:18Number one being, Matt Nagy is the offensive coordinator on this team.
8:21It's true. And that's not a good thing. That's not a reason to be bullish on the New York Giants in any way, shape or form.
8:29The Chiefs were more than happy to let Matt Nagy go after, again, I don't know the exact influence he had on the Chiefs offense.
8:36But the Chiefs offense has not gotten better since Matt Nagy had gone there the last couple years.
8:42So I think that's something that still has to be considered when you're talking about Malik neighbors.
8:47You have to consider, well, when does he actually get back to himself producing at a high level and going back to projections?
8:54He has played one quarter of football with Jackson Dart one like that's another projection.
8:58I know that we love Dart from a fantasy perspective because of the rushing the legs, but from a advanced passing metrics
9:05numbers last year, like, where we going out of our way to play a lot of these like Giants wide receivers.
9:11I mean, Wanda Robinson was obviously productive, but a lot of these Giants receivers were still unreliable with Jackson Dart as a
9:17passer last year where he was a little bit up and down.
9:21So I do think that there is obviously get upside with Malik neighbors.
9:25If he's healthy, we've seen what this guy can do.
9:28His rookie year was absolutely sensational. But even last year, you know, he wasn't producing at the same level that he was as a rookie.
9:35I'm a little bit more of like the low end wide receiver one territory.
9:40So I think this round three is probably the highest I would be willing to invest in neighbors.
9:45But to your point, as soon as we get closer and closer and closer, it seems like it's going to continue to
9:51go up and up and up and steam. And I think there's a price where I'm not going to be necessarily buying it.
9:58Yeah, in this draft, we've had a little bit of interest and stuff fall like Nico Collins almost made it back to us.
10:05Wide receiver 12 goes in the middle of the third round.
10:08Brees Hall goes just before us. So we can talk about a few of those guys that have fallen a little in a moment.
10:16But the top players at ADP are Chris Olave, Tyler Warren, who seems to be potentially a beneficiary from not a single
10:22Colts wide receiver wanting to play this year. Javonte Williams, Devonta Smith, Emekereg Buka, our guy Zay Flowers.
10:27Which of these guys stands out the most to you, Andrew?
10:31Andrew, on the draft assistant, it does push towards Chris Olave at the top.
10:35Is that where you want to lean? Yeah, I think that's the direction I would like to go as well.
10:41I think that he's ranked up really, really high there.
10:44And, you know, Zay Flowers did pick up a little bit of a boo-boo here that I don't actually love.
10:50But there's a chance that he might fall to us back beginning of round four.
10:54So let's go with Olave. Yeah, I'm good with that.
10:57Kind of giving ourselves a classic hero RB build.
11:00Talking about running backs, we've got to mention J.K.
11:03Dobbins did leave practice today with trainers. Like it sounded like nothing particularly serious.
11:07I mean, it wasn't on a car. But J.K.
11:09Dobbins out there. We are starting to get these injuries that are filtering through.
11:14Isaiah Pacheco is set to miss some time with an MCL sprain, but should be ready for week one.
11:19That feels more impactful. Like that feels like it's going to push the Lions potentially bring somebody else in.
11:25I think it's Sion Vakie, the backup behind Pacheco, is also dealing with an injury at the moment.
11:30So if the Lions need bodies out there, could we end up finding somebody competent?
11:35Could we end up with somebody like Najee Harris there?
11:38It's just the best time of year for news and things like that.
11:42Being on the clock, making those decisions. Andrew, we've got one pick before our last one where we took Chris Olave, Tyler
11:48Warren and Mekaregbuka, Garrett Wilson, Jalen Waddle, Ladd McConkie go off the board.
11:52And then Zay Flowers does make it back, as does Devonta Smith.
11:56I'm happy with either of those guys. So if you want to look at running back, Travis Ochan, DeAndre Swift, Josh Jacobs are all there.
12:03I don't want to do running back here. I would rather just go with another wide receiver.
12:08I mean, we've got Zay on the board, right?
12:11Let's take Zay Flowers. I'm not even going to hesitate on that one.
12:15But yes, I appreciate everybody in here. Kibbles, hanging out with us.
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12:28So, Andrew, like through the first couple of weeks of training camp, as things kind of get towards the first week of
12:34proper preseason games, what's been the most meaningful or newsworthy note that's happened for you?
12:39Well, most recently we had big news over the weekend that Laramie Tunsell, the offensive tackle for the Washington Commanders is out indefinitely with a torn triceps injury.
12:47And I think that this is massive. I think that this makes Jayden Daniels a very high risk quarterback across all formats.
12:54And it's interesting because last week or the end of last week, it was finally they got Jayden Daniels some weapons.
13:00They signed Stefan Diggs. Like, this is great. And I wasn't really moving Daniels that much in my rankings because he'd already
13:06been up there pretty high in terms of, OK, he's going to get it done.
13:11He's got the rushing. But to me, it's like if Laramie Tunsell had just stayed healthy and they didn't sign Diggs, I'd
13:17feel much better about Jayden Daniels than the reverse where you bring in Diggs.
13:22And but you take away the start offs of tackle.
13:25Like who's more important to this offense? It's Laramie Tunsell signing close.
13:28So although I appreciate what Diggs did last year with the Patriots over a thousand yards and not that many.
13:34I think it was only 20 receivers last year that actually hit a thousand receiving yards and Diggs did it on very limited route volume.
13:41He was also attached to a really high powered offense.
13:44It was a very easy schedule for the Patriots and he was highly efficient.
13:49But we also saw Diggs. He's older and he fell off the face of the earth in the playoffs where he was
13:55an absolute ghost for the Patriots and did absolutely nothing.
13:58And the Patriots were more than happy to move on from him.
14:02And I do think it's like and maybe this isn't all on field too, but Diggs is also now playing for his third team in three seasons.
14:10As an player like that is like somewhat telling of like, OK, like this is what the NFL teams are thinking about this player.
14:17Now, again, maybe this is more about his off field kind of like shenanigans that he tends to kind of get wrapped up in.
14:24So maybe that's really more of that. And he obviously got hurt playing for the Houston Texans.
14:29But this letter me tonsil thing, I mean, we saw what happened to this Chargers offense last year when they were derailed by injuries.
14:36Justin Herbert got hit and hit and hit. And look, James is not built like Justin Herbert.
14:41Like he got banged up last year because he's a much more slender built quarterback.
14:46And this concerns me for his durability in a brand new offense.
14:49They got at the Eagles in week one. Like, oh God, like that is really, really tough sledding for an offense where
14:56Terry McClure and now another player that I'm kind of concerned about to drafting him where he goes.
15:01Because if they're not going to be able to hold up in production, are they really going to be able to hit on some of these downfield shots?
15:10I'm not as bullish on now McClure and kind of bouncing back here.
15:13So for me, the commanders losing tonsil, I think is a major, major red flag for this offense overall.
15:19Yeah. And to your point, Stefan Diggs, incredibly efficient last year, ranked eighth in yards per outrun, 16th most receiving yards, despite
15:26seeing him 32nd most targets among wide receivers with 10 or more red zone targets.
15:30He ranked eighth in catch rate. Like things broke very well for Stefan Diggs.
15:34As far as the running backs, obviously losing Laramie Tunsil is a massive third bat.
15:39Like not having him there on the left hand side of the line, just creating that wall that he does.
15:45It makes things a little bit worse. Are you playing the commanders backfield any differently based on this news?
15:50Are you scared of any of the guys or are you just kind of like still leaning in the prior takes?
15:57All paths lead to Rashad White. For me, it just continues to be white.
16:01And I can always spin this positively because I'm trying because I'm making the bull case for white.
16:06Well, it's like, well, if he's less time to throw, then it means more dump off passes running backs.
16:12Right. So like technically that argument can be used.
16:14We saw it last year with Ashton Jenty, you know, how was he able to kind of like still like end up
16:21finishing as a back end RB one? It's because he got a crap ton of dump off passes behind a broken offensive line.
16:28So this is the beginning of the end to the commanders office of line, which wasn't ranked that highly even before this Tunsil injury.
16:35Like this was looked at as in a below average offensive line.
16:39Now you're taking out the number one piece of it.
16:42Now you're looking at an offensive line that can be bottom five and now you're much worried about can cross key merit
16:48overcome this type of poor blocking up front potentially.
16:51So white for me doesn't really change how I'm approaching this backfield.
16:54If the offensive line is not going to be as good, then you've got Rashad White, who ranked 16th best in pass protection last year among running backs.
17:03So you've got Jokori Kroski Merritt, who ranked 39th.
17:05And the commanders have been pretty open about the fact that his lack of pass protection skills kept him off field.
17:12Rashad White averages 51 receptions per year. Yes, he's never been the most efficient running back, but back to back seasons at
17:184.3 yards per carry over 50% success rate. Like he's added a little more to his game as he's kind of gained experience in the NFL.
17:26So yeah, very much with you there on Rashad White.
17:29But it is noteworthy that the team continues to say they do want to see Jokori Kroski Merritt have a bit more
17:35of a breakout and take the next step. Lufa Burden goes at the 501 groin injury, which is going to keep him
17:42out for the majority of training camp and preseason.
17:45But the belief is that he's going to be fine for that opening game.
17:49Andrew, are you kind of backing off Lufa Burden at all a minute based on that news?
17:54I was backing off of him very much so before this injury.
17:57So now I guess for me, it's can I get in a draft room where he does fall enough where I can get some exposure to him?
18:06Because I'm never trying to extinguish the flames of Lufa Burden, his upside case, because I do think it's very clear what it is.
18:13But the price to pay when it was early round or late round three, early round four was too much for me.
18:19So I think this injury does kind of create an opportunity where if you were a little bit bearish on Burden and
18:26you're doing a lot of these best ball drafts, I think this is probably your opportunity to get to buy the dip
18:32and get your your Luther Burden stock as Ben Johnson would always lightly put.
18:36So, I mean, I think though for redraft, though, I mean, didn't he get hurt last year in training camp and had
18:43a really slow out of the gates? I don't remember if it was a groin injury, but I think that this relatively hurts.
18:50And you're going to see a thing too. We just saw this Burden and Odunzee.
18:54They're going to go much closer together. It wouldn't be surprised if we see Odunzee flip Burden in some drafts.
19:00I don't know if it'll be completely an ADP, but I think we're going to see more of Odunzee going higher and
19:07higher as a result, obviously, of Burden's injury. Yeah, I think it would probably take another little hit of negative news to
19:13see them flip each other bit here. Luther Burden going at wide receiver 22, Roman Odunzee going two picks later at wide
19:20receiver 23, followed by Terry McLaurin with that little bit of bad news for him.
19:24Previously, he was going a few spots higher. 6MGClove, appreciate you following us over here on our Twitch channel.
19:30We are in round five with James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave and Zay Flowers.
19:35Andrew, how do you feel about that start? This is like textbook hero RB start where I feel really strong about James Cook and Zay Flowers.
19:42I think he could be the wide receiver one and we got him as our wide receiver three.
19:48Come on, like come on down. So I love this build so far.
19:51Again, talking some strategy with you. So two of the teams.
19:55So we're picking at the nine spot. So two of the other teams already have tight ends.
20:00Looks like we just got Harold Fenn off the board there.
20:03So I don't think tight ends direction. I want to go in here.
20:07I was kind of considering Harold Fenn, but he obviously just went off the board.
20:11Are you thinking anything differently? Do you want someone like Kraft Laporta pits here?
20:16Or do you feel like we're reaching a little bit here again?
20:19Because we can also push it to our six round pick because there's only one team that needs a tight end picking
20:26behind us, according to what coach is telling me after like the tier drop offs.
20:30So what do you think? Well, I'm ready to lean into the quintessential hero RB and part of that is also making sure you're stronger of a position.
20:38So, Andrew, I'm going to throw two players at you and I'll let you choose Lamar Jackson for the stack was a flowers or took a craft.
20:47Oh, oh, I will go with the with the quarterback.
20:50Let's go with Lamar. It makes too much like getting Lamar back end of round five.
20:54We could get cute there. We could push him around the corner and hope that he comes back to us and we get a bit of value.
21:02I have seen Lamar fall into the sixth round of these kind of single quarterback one to five drafts.
21:08And every time that's happened, I've not been in a position to take him.
21:12So there's no point getting cute. I'm happy to take him and maybe took a craft does make it back around.
21:18But in these contests where it's best ball and where you can fill multiple flex spots with the tight ends, maybe took a craft doesn't come back around.
21:27If he does, is he is he very much at the top of the board?
21:31You see on the draft system there, 76 percent on the pick predictor.
21:35Trevion Henderson, Jamison Williams ahead of him. Similar range to Jadarian Price, Christian Watson.
21:39What are you kind of feeling? I mean, Sam Laporte, Kyle Pitts.
21:43I'm higher on Sam Laporte, but it's a good range to take our first tight end.
21:48Yeah, we've had about six teams still need a tight end is what coach is telling me in the draft room.
21:54And that's kind of why I did feel more comfortable taking the quarterback earlier because all the teams picking behind us still needed to draft quarterback.
22:02So it made more sense for us to punt tight end.
22:05I do think that craft is is firmly in play here.
22:08If we're really leaning into that hero RB build.
22:11Look, no one can tell exactly how crafts injury coming off of it will be.
22:15I do think it is bullish for those that can.
22:18I love Tucker craft and I feel like I'm the highest on him like the last two seasons.
22:24We were I remember drafting him in best football drafts new Tom like the 18th round when everyone was still pounding the table for Luke Musker.
22:31Like not do Tucker craft is the guy and Christian Watson.
22:35The fact that he came off his ACL injury last year and just immediately produced.
22:39I mean, they got to know something about these ACL injuries to suggest a target craft.
22:44Hey, this is what you need to do. He's also a freak freak of nature.
22:48And when he hits if he gets back up to speed in the second half of this season.
22:54Well, he could be a big game changer for us.
22:57So I'm always going to try to swing for the fences with some boom rust.
23:01I think craft has a little bit of that, but where he's going now in the middle of the sixth round.
23:07I think that he would be the pick if he's there.
23:11And of course, he'll probably end up getting one pick before us naturally because that's always what happens.
23:16Yeah. So since our pick on the turn, we're picking from a nine slot, Mike Evans, Parker Washington, Jameson Williams, Christian Watson,
23:22Drake May goes to the 111 team, Carnell Tate.
23:25And we're back up on the clock with our choice of Tucker craft, Kyle Pitts, Sam Laporte, Jadarian Price, Trevion Henderson, Andrew
23:32with 49 seconds left on the clock. Is there anyone you'd like to make a case for before we click Tucker craft?
23:38I know ECR likes Trevion Henderson, Warren, Jadarian Price.
23:41I feel like a lot of these running backs are also kind of falling in a similar like boom or bust type of build.
23:48And if I'm going to take a shot on a boom or bust player, it's like, well, let's take a shot on
23:55the format as well with tight end premium. So if craft hits in a big way, it's a massive swing in our favor.
24:01So let's go with craft singles. Yeah. Like Tucker craft, potentially we see like regression from an efficiency point of view.
24:08Like he has been an absolute yards after the catch monster for the last two seasons.
24:13Like if you sort by any kind of stats database and look at yards after the catch, he is out there massively ahead of everybody.
24:20And it's been that way for two years, but he's also had a 26% target share in the red zone last year.
24:26He was third in yards per out run, second in yards per target.
24:30Like I think that we can afford a little bit of regression with this Packers offense condensing around him a little bit more.
24:37I've been ahead of Kyle Pitts with Tucker craft all off season.
24:41I would take him as my tight end five ahead of Harold Fanning.
24:45It feels inevitable that maybe when he gets the contract bump and if he's ready for week one, then people are going
24:51to be pushing him a little bit higher as drafts close after that.
24:55Trevor and Henderson does go RB 25. He has fallen a little bit recently.
24:59And then Jonathan Brooks goes several spots before we'll see Tuba Hubbard taken.
25:03I mean, Tuba Hubbard's ADP is down at 87 and we just saw Jonathan Brooks go at 67.
25:08I mean, are we just getting a little too mean worthy there, Andrew?
25:12Man, the Jonathan Brooks hype train hasn't just left the station.
25:16It's 75% of the way there to its destination, which we're just hoping is, Hey, can this guy be a productive NFL running back?
25:23So I do think that the Brooks train there reaches a point where you're no longer benefiting from a potential breakout.
25:29I don't think this is going to be the case in more home leagues where I think Bronathan Brooks is still going to be a marquee sleeper.
25:37So I do want to be clear with that in best ball, the Brooks Hubbard conversation is going to be much different
25:44where when one of my more casual friends will ask me like, who's a running back sleeper?
25:49Jonathan Brooks is always my first guy I list because he will be a sleeper in these ESPN CBS more casual leagues in best ball.
25:56I think the market is just opening up to yeah, we really would rather bet on the upside case with Brooks as
26:03a pass catcher highly drafted out of Texas versus Hubbard who had zero explosive runs last year.
26:08And Tom, I know that you're always scooping a value.
26:11No, you haven't also, but you have not been the highest on Brooks, but does this make you want to draft more to the Hubbard?
26:18Exactly. Just kind of like looking at his, it doesn't make it.
26:22So like for me, it's like, again, just because you're low on, it doesn't just because I don't want to necessarily chase all the steam with Brooks.
26:30It doesn't mean I wanted to start drafting Cuba Hubbard because I see a lot of holes in his profile as well
26:36where it's like, maybe I just don't touch the Panthers backfield.
26:40The Brooks becomes too expensive and Hubbard is a player that I think is a running back who is not going to
26:46have his job for very, very long. Like we saw last year when he lost to Rico Dowdle.
26:51Yeah. In general, I've just kind of cooled on the Panthers offense in general.
26:56I'm not taking as much terror on McMillan as I expected to be.
26:59You know, I like Jalen Coker, but his price is getting fairly expensive compared to what it was when we started drafting these best ball teams.
27:07Like, you know, I was doing best ball teams in February this year.
27:11So now to look at the price that we're paying, it's a little more difficult.
27:16And ultimately, I just don't think that the Panthers are going to score a huge amount of points per game.
27:22I think that by the end of the season, there'll be bottom eight in points per game and arguing over two running
27:28backs who have a lot to prove isn't probably going to be the most useful point of our time.
27:34Like Jonathan Brooks has what, 45 total yards in the NFL, had one good season in college.
27:39And then there's a lot of projecting assuming what he could turn into.
27:43And I'm not denying there's upside there. I'm not denying that it's great to see him healthy, great to see him catching passes.
27:49But much like J'Kory Krosky-Meritt, Jonathan Brooks isn't somebody that we've ever seen good pass protection reps from.
27:55And if you get out there with a fragile quarterback like Bryce Young, with an offensive line which is banged up, they're
28:01missing both their tackles to start training camp. And now you're in the fire consistently with a head coach who's probably gone
28:08if he doesn't get a good season out of the Panthers.
28:11It's not hard to believe that at times he just wilts and ends up putting Tuba Hubbard in there.
28:17I mean, Tuba Hubbard was somebody they believed in.
28:20And obviously last year he was bad to start the year, but he was banged up.
28:24Rico Dowdle was playing well and beating up on bad run defenses.
28:28But they wanted to keep bringing Tuba Hubbard back into the fold.
28:31I mean, you go back to the playoff game against the Rams.
28:35Tuba Hubbard played 62% of the snaps that game.
28:38So I just think it's not as clear better as some people.
28:41RB 26 for Jonathan Brooks is too high for me.
28:44An interesting comparison talking about these environments. What if the Titans from last year is what the Panthers are this year?
28:50Where you have a backfield where Hubbard is in that Pollard role.
28:54You're seeing Brooks operate on passing downs. But both guys just eat into each other's workload so much that it makes them both useless.
29:01And because the offense itself can't... It's not the Rams that we're talking about where you have Kyron and Blake Quarrenble.
29:07The offense is good enough where they can support two running backs, especially in terms of positive game scripts.
29:13The Panthers have one of the toughest schedules in the NFL this season because they came in first place in their division last year.
29:20So I think, again, that is still more the pro case for Brooks because you expect him to be catching passes out of the backfield.
29:28Which makes it, again, even that much harder bet to make on Tuba Hubbard.
29:32But I do think that your point is really astute talking about how maybe there isn't just a league winner potentially from this Panthers running back.
29:40If Jonathan Brooks, all he does is overcape Tuba Hubbard.
29:43At this point now, it's like he has to not just overtake Tuba Hubbard.
29:47He also has to produce. Be a top 20 running back.
29:50Be a top 15 running back. Which, again, we still don't know because he really hasn't played that much.
29:56Well, look at it here. He goes ahead of Jadarian Price.
29:59Like, Jadarian Price had round one draft capital. Has a really impressive profile apart from the fact that he hadn't caught a lot of passes.
30:06But everything we're seeing out of Seahawks training camp is that they try to integrate into the passing game as much as possible.
30:13Well, Zach Charbonnet's injury, it sounds like he's going to be back sooner than people expected.
30:18But it still is a serious one. He could end up needing, you know, follow-up surgery.
30:23He could regress once he gets on the field.
30:25He could struggle with the mental side of it.
30:28Jonathan Brooks, we've seen literally nothing from. And he's going ahead of Jadarian Price.
30:32I think that's quite a difficult bet for me to make.
30:36But yes, we've spent a lot of time talking about Jonathan Brooks this year.
30:40So, at this point, I'm going to let the chips fall where they do.
30:44Shout out to Longrod Von Mengel and CanyonCoyote29. New followers over here on Twitch.
30:48They know what's up. We've got a couple of picks before our next pick.
30:52So, quickly, Andrew. Entman Sam, what do we think about Travis Echan in New Orleans upside or remains to be seen?
30:58I liked him a lot more earlier this offseason before digging into more of his red zone woes.
31:04I know that Rich Rebar has done a lot of great research on it, and he just was horrible at the goal line last year.
31:11So, that concerns me about a little more than I initially had a read on where they paid him.
31:17Yeah, he'll probably get the red zone opportunities. I'm not as confident that that's the case anymore.
31:22He is kind of the start of the running back tier, kind of in that 15 to 20 range, where I'd rather
31:29not be picking those running backs, to be totally honest, because I feel like I see problems in all of them, and I don't want to overinvest.
31:37So, I am a coward and just pick a wide receiver instead, besides picking one of these running backs.
31:42I do think that there is still top 12 upside, because Echan, when you just look at when he's been healthy, he
31:49always finishes as a top 17 type of running back.
31:52So, he has been productive, even though he's never been the perfect in terms of rushing metrics, in terms of a pass
31:58catcher, master of none, jack of all trades type of running back.
32:02I think that kind of summarizes Echan a little bit up this point in his career, but he has slashed a high
32:08ceiling, and I do think he can at least be more efficient rushing this year, maybe in a better system that's more suited to his skill set.
32:16I think the Saints got him for a reason for killing more of his offense, and Alvin Kamara is a declining rusher.
32:23Like, I don't want to not draft Echan because of Kamara as a skill player.
32:27It's more about just usage and deployment than anything else.
32:30Yeah, and Echan's going to be on the field a lot, and playing fast, up-tempo stuff, you tend to stay on the field.
32:37He should be fine, but perhaps kept. We're back on the clock.
32:41We have James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft.
32:45Feels like running back might be the play here, or potentially another tight end, if we want to really juice that position.
32:52The top of the draft assistant is pushing towards Chuba Hubbard.
32:55Andrew, anybody else you like here with 17 seconds left?
32:58I like RJ Harvey, especially if this Dobbins thing starts to linger.
33:01He already got banged up, so he's not going to get healthier as the season progresses.
33:06I mean, okay. Like, I'll give you that one.
33:09I'll be 31. The price kind of feels fine.
33:12I'm not an RJ Harvey fan. I think with Jonah Coleman and JK Dobbins, the combination probably caps him slightly.
33:17So sell me on him, Andrew. He was a running back who did one of the toughest things that rookie running backs
33:24did was catch passes as a rookie. He also scored over double-digit touchdowns.
33:28I think he scored 12 touchdowns last year. So that, to me, suggests, hey, that this guy they like to use around the red zone.
33:35And one thing I noticed, too, while doing more research about the Broncos' season last year, they had one of the easiest
33:42schedules to start the year, which also coincided with JK Dobbins having a very strong start.
33:47So when Dobbins went down, the schedule also got much harder against much tougher run defenses.
33:51So I know everyone rips on RJ Harvey because he'd be so bad as a rusher.
33:56Well, you know what? Dobbins probably would have been just, maybe not just as bad, but his rushing efficiency would have also
34:03fell off as well in the second half of the season.
34:06But he was injured, so we never really got to see that potentially play out.
34:10So I think that the Broncos, again, they have to open up to another tough schedule.
34:15I think that just leans more into RJ Harvey as a pass catcher out of the backfield and someone that sees a lot of red zone usage.
34:23So I like touchdowns. I like catching passes. Sure, if he can just improve a little bit as a rusher, then that's just gravy.
34:30But the high value opportunities that he's going to see in year two get me excited that him as outside the top
34:3730 running back, especially in best ball, where you know he can at least rip off big explosive plays.
34:43You don't always have to know when to start him.
34:46Hey, it's a strong argument. We'll clip that, shall we?
34:49RJ Harvey was our pick. Then Justin Herbert, Isaiah Likely, Jalen Hurts, Dallas Goddard, Rico Dowdle, Quentin Johnson.
34:54The draft assistant is begging us to draft Chuba Hubbard here.
34:57Andrew, the other top players are Dak Prescott. We could stack with CeeDee Lamb.
35:01We've got Kenny Gainwell, Trevor Lawrence, DK Metcalf, Rashad White, JK Dobbins, Alec Pierce, Jake Ferguson.
35:06What do you like? My highest ranked guy, pulling up my rankings here because you can use that with the Cheat Sheet Creator.
35:13It's actually Rashad White. I know that we're probably pulling him up a little bit, but Pittman, Lennon, Metcalf, those are guys that are up there for me.
35:21I just don't want Hubbard, so. We'll go Rashad White.
35:24I've made too many picks for head Jim Vajonathan Brooks, Chuba Hubbard situation.
35:28I just don't need that negativity in my life right now.
35:31So happy to just swing a different way instead.
35:34And through eight rounds, we have James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson stacked up, Titan 1 overall, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White.
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36:08After our pick, Dak Prescott does go QB9. I was pretty tempted to stack him up with CeeDee Lamb there and just be done at quarterback potentially.
36:16Andrew, was there any kind of lean towards that from yourself?
36:20I wasn't thinking quarterback that much just because I know that there's just so much depth at that quarterback position.
36:26And we obviously went early around quarterback going with Lamar Jackson.
36:29I think too, we still have in our back pocket, someone that I know you really like a lot and someone that
36:35I continue to try to grow on is Tyler Shuck.
36:38You know, stacking this Saints offense, high flying, you have dome conditions.
36:42They played the Detroit Lions week one. I'm telling you, everyone after week one is going to be like, Tyler Shuck is
36:49him when he faces that line secondary that still has injuries from last year.
36:53Here, the best ball bags, the DFS bags will be Saints, doubles, Tyson, Olave with Jay Moe bring back.
36:58Is that even English? I don't know, but it's going to be something that people are going to be doing a lot of.
37:05Hey, look, as an English man, I will give you a pass for that one.
37:10That works fine. Entman Sam in the chat saying, Rashad White is another running back I have on my Dynasty squad.
37:16It's super flexing his RB room is Bijan, Travis Ochan, Bucky Irving, JK Dobbins, Rashad White, Jordan Mason.
37:21I think I'm happy with them, but could be tempted to draft Coleman or the other rookie in Tennessee, which would be Nick Singleton.
37:28I think that's a really nice RB room. Andrew, anything that you'd be looking at there, would you be tempted to add
37:35another rookie running back where you'd take a shot on a wide receiver in a similar range to Coleman or Nick Singleton instead?
37:42I think that Coleman would be my number one option there.
37:45JK Dobbins, we know, is not built to last, and I know that he's already a little bit banged up, so you
37:52see his value just potentially skyrocket if Dobbins has to miss extended time either this year, next year.
37:57Coleman is a potential long-term investment for this Broncos run game, whereas Nick Singleton I think is more of kind of a
38:04shot in the dark with the Titans. I think that he's more day three pick, a lot of athletic upside, but it's coming off a foot injury.
38:12Pollard and Spears are both going to be free agents after this year, but there's also a chance that this Titans backfield just looks completely different in 2027.
38:20And they draft a running back in a much better running back class next year.
38:24So I think Coleman at least has some staying power beyond 2026, whereas Singleton I don't feel nearly as bullish about for his long-term career.
38:32So I would definitely go with Coleman there. Continue to build up those running backs.
38:36Yeah, one thing I like with Jonah Coleman that seemed noteworthy is like the Broncos didn't have many picks this year.
38:43They gave up so much for Jalen Waddell. And they were very keen on making sure that they got Jonah Coleman.
38:49Like it didn't feel that running back was necessarily a massive need.
38:52Like I know we're talking about J.K. Dobbins being a bit fragile, but they seem to really love him.
38:58Like Sean Payton's talked about how much of a priority it was re-signing him.
39:02But still, they went out and they drafted Jonah Coleman.
39:05So I would agree with you on that one there.
39:08I think that makes a lot of sense. But some of the news, let's talk a couple of little bits that we're
39:15kind of getting drip fed to us this week from training camp.
39:18Denzel Boston, starter of Browns training camp. Multiple reports calling him their best offensive player, which might not be the biggest compliment.
39:25But at 6'4", 212, like kind of that classic deep X-wide receiver, jump ball player, which could work well with Browns quarterbacks,
39:31you know, putting it up there and just hoping that a player's going to make a play on it.
39:37Is that enough for you in best ball? Is he somebody that you'd be interested in redraft or are you just trying
39:44to avoid the Browns offense in general? Yeah, he's tricky.
39:47He's not tricky to get excited about because you see the highlights from his college and you see the highlights at training
39:53camp where, man, this guy looks like an alpha wide receiver on the perimeter, on the boundary.
39:58But then you run into problems of, OK, well, how does this translate to fantasy production?
40:03We actually asked the question of how does this actually get us fantasy points?
40:07Get concerned. You've seen some of these guys, Tommy O'Hell Fannin, has been kind of dealing with an injury.
40:13So he's kind of pegged as the number one target on the offense in terms of just overall targets.
40:18Casey and Concepcion, the other guy that they drafted in this year's draft, also had been dealing with a shoulder injury.
40:25And then, of course, yeah, Dunstead Boston's, he better look better than Jerry Judy.
40:29Like, come on. Like, that's not exactly like a massive bar to pass for him.
40:33I do think that in best ball, though, his skill set fits pretty well because he's a boom or bust type of player.
40:40Probably going to make some big plays, probably going to catch some touchdowns.
40:44I think in redraft and some deeper formats, I think he's worth a bench stash to kind of see how things shake out.
40:51But until we get any type of stability from this Browns passing attack, I'm not going to overpay for him because I
40:57think when push comes to shove, I don't think avoiding a Browns player is going to be the reason that you lose
41:04your fantasy football league, especially when they open the year on the road, back-to-back matchups against Jacksonville and against Tampa Bay.
41:10Bad offensive lines don't travel. And until the Browns offensive line actually plays well, they can change the names and the backs
41:17of the plates as often as they want. I got to see them actually protect their quarterback.
41:22And especially if they start Deshaun Watson to start the year, like, ugh.
41:26Like, I don't know how many points this team's going to score.
41:29Yeah. I mean, to your point about the offensive line, like the left tackle that we drafted this year apparently hasn't even looked particularly impressive.
41:37So there's still a long way to go for this Browns team for me to have even a modicum of faith in them.
41:43Patrick Mahomes goes with QB12. Both Xavier Worthy and Rashi Rice still ramping up due to the injuries they've dealt with recently.
41:50Mahomes was somebody who started training camp and it was like, oh my God, Mahomes is going to be out there week one with no restrictions.
41:58Since then, there's a little more doubt kind of being put about there.
42:02A little more doubt about, like, how healthy he completely is, which seems fine.
42:06I mean, you know, he's well ahead of where most people expected.
42:09I'm sure it won't be much time if he misses any time.
42:13Hopefully we don't see Justin Fields on the field anytime soon.
42:16Straight after him, Brock Purdy goes. The power station is yet to get Brock Purdy, but it is getting everybody else.
42:22Are you interested in Debo Samuel? I mean, not yet.
42:25We're only just in the ninth round with two picks away, but is Debo Samuel back with 49ers alluring?
42:31I think he's much more alluring in redraft than in best ball because I've done this song and dance with him before
42:38where he is great for the first month of the year, but then everything falls off the face of the earth because he gets banged up.
42:45And then when he's not at 100% or 85% and there's no more yards after the catch available to him, he's just
42:52catching dump off passes for no yards. It can only move the needle so much for you.
42:57So I do think that structurally, if you're building a roster in a certain way where you invest in a lot of
43:04rookie receivers, maybe guys that are coming off of injuries where you're concerned about the front load of production.
43:09I can see Debo Samuel making a lot of sense in those types of formats, obviously in redraft where you can use
43:16him and then dump him or trade him when he starts to hit that wall.
43:20Because last year, all I remember was betting his unders at the end of the season, like every single week, because he
43:27could never get over like 40 yards. So that's kind of my read on Debo, very structural based pick.
43:32Okay. Well, we're back up on the clock. Top players by ADP, JK Dobbins, Alec Pierce, Dalton Kincaid, Kyle Mononga, Jared Goff,
43:39Jordan Mason, Wondell Robinson, Bo Nix, JCM, Jaden Reed, Kai Lemon, Michael Wilson, Aaron Jones.
43:43The draft assistants kind of leaning towards Kyle Mononga.
43:46I don't love him. We've got 23 seconds left.
43:49Anyone you want to pitch for? I like Kincaid.
43:51I like Kincaid. I think this is the healthiest that we've seen him.
43:55And I think he fits the FFPC scoring to a tee where it's the total amount of receptions a tight end is
44:02getting that moves the needle the most. Yeah, exactly.
44:05I think a lot of time people can see guys like Mark Andrews going as tight end 14 in this format.
44:11I'm not sure he's particularly a value over here on FFPC at the minute because the volume probably just isn't going to be there.
44:18It certainly wasn't there last year. Dalton Kincaid, when he's out there, always has really high target per out run metrics.
44:24Yes, it's been a little bit disappointing that he had a 63% snap share in his rookie year and then 57% and 38% over his last two.
44:32But he hasn't played fully healthy in either of the last two.
44:36So I'm willing to take a bet on him.
44:38I mean, when you get down to this level, do you really want to be looking at someone like Dallas Goddard, who
44:45went at tight end 12, who got a lot of gimme passes around the goal line?
44:50Like, I can't remember how many touchdowns he scored from inside for five when he had never been a threat at the
44:56goal line previously and had never hit double digit touchdowns previously.
45:00Or somebody like Dalton Kincaid, who, as you say, sounds like he's finally healthy.
45:04So yeah, I'm probably a little behind exposure on Dalton Kade and happy to grab him here as we head into the 10th round.
45:11We feel pretty balanced here. Doesn't feel like we've got any massive needs.
45:15We're down to QB 16 already. Bo Nix going off the board.
45:18A couple of picks before us. Wide receiver 42, Wondale Robinson.
45:22JK Dobbins went as RB 37. Somebody maybe not paying attention or somebody not scared.
45:26Alec Pearce going as wide receiver 41. A couple of picks after Michael Pittman, Chris Godwin.
45:31And we are back upon the clock. Kyle Mononga goes, which I'm not disappointed about.
45:35Not somebody I enjoy clicking. Andrew, the top players are Jordan Mason, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt, Jaden Reed, Mackay, Lemon, Michael Wilson, Aaron Jones, Kyler Murray, Tyler Shook, Chigga Konkwo.
45:44What do you want to get involved with? I think we can punt off quarterback because a lot of other teams still
45:50have quarterbacks already, as you can kind of see on the board here with the purple.
45:55I like Jacoby Myers as a wide receiver, just underrated every single year and someone that I think we're going to get his points in our lineup.
46:03Pretty consistently an outpace where he's going here in the 10th round.
46:07So I like Myers. If I go running back, I like Jordan Mason.
46:10Let's go Jacoby Myers. You like Jacoby Myers over Tyler Shook?
46:14Even Shook's ahead on ADP? I don't know if anyone's going to take Shook.
46:18Where did Jordan Tyson go? I'll take Jacoby Myers.
46:21I'm fighting to bank on him. I don't take enough of Jack's wide receivers, really.
46:25In this draft, Jordan Tyson went at the 702.
46:28So it's kind of that two slot, really, that we need to keep an eye on to see where this one goes.
46:34In the chat, M-Man Sam, if you had to pick Burrow or Herbert, who would be more valuable long-term superflex formatting question?
46:41I love this question because people who roster Joe Burrow know that when he plays, it's great.
46:46But when he doesn't, it's going to be a pain to have to try and find a replacement.
46:51I mean, you can always find Joe Flacco. But Joe Burrow, I mean, the news out of Bengals training camp is that
46:58the Bengals defense looks like the more impressive unit.
47:00Obviously, I'll believe that when I see it when it comes to regular season games.
47:05But the Bengals are installing a lot more concepts, try to play under center, more play action stuff.
47:10They're really overhauling the offense in probably the most meaningful way they've done since Joe Burrow got there.
47:16Andrew, where do you fall on this, Burrow or Herbert?
47:19Because I mean, Herbert, I mean, Burrow, we've seen it consistently when he is on the field.
47:24300 passing yards, three touchdowns, more than pretty much any other quarterback.
47:27But Justin Herbert, it's always the if. Yeah, it's always the if with Justin Herbert.
47:32But I do think that this is the year for Justin Herbert where the planets align.
47:36I think that this is by far the most advanced offensive mind that he has worked with in his NFL career.
47:43And Mike McDaniel, I think, can get and squeeze an MVP season out of Justin Herbert.
47:47So I'm not trying to downplay the upside of a healthy Joe Burrow.
47:51But I think when we're talking about these guys next year, because I know that we always talk about like quarterbacks in
47:58three years who we're going to be ranking higher.
48:01All that matters is it really like when we're talking about 2027, who was better?
48:05And that's going to be the guy who has more value.
48:08And for me, I think Herbert is going to have a such a monster season where he's going to hold more value than Joe Burrow.
48:16He's also younger. He's 28 years old. Burrow is already 30, has been banged up, banged up way more than I mean,
48:22Herbert was the most hit quarterback last year and still played like the entire season.
48:27Like, like, like Burrow. I'm sorry. Like, I never want to question the toughness of any of these guys are all so, so tough.
48:34But like Burrow probably wouldn't have played as many games as Herbert did last year.
48:38Like Herbert, he was playing like games with a broken hand.
48:42Yeah. So Herbert for me. Well, Tyler Shook does go to the team who drafted Jordan Tyson out of the 102.
48:48Congratulations, Bob. Congratulations, Andrew. Shout out to NoCapMac joining us in the chat over here on Twitch.
48:53I'm actually drafting one of these teams with NoCap right now.
48:56He became the 5,000th follower of my channel, The Fantasy Sanctuary, and won himself a prize, including drafting one of these teams with us.
49:03We started among Rasen Brown, Kenneth Walker, George Pickens, Emekereg, Buka, David Montgomery, Sam Laporte, Jalen Hurts, Kenny Gainwell, Blake Curran, Jared Goff, and Juwan Johnson.
49:11So, Andrew, I'm not saying that this team isn't as good as the one with me and NoCap at drafting, but we've
49:18got to land the plane after that Tyler Shook disappointment.
49:21Have you got anything to say for yourself? You are a wise basketball drafter, Tom, and I need to listen to you
49:27more because you are, no, we've got to take Shook.
49:30He's got the higher ADP, and I'm like, no, man, I've got to get my guy, Jacoby Myers, but I'm already looking at potential alternatives.
49:38We can still take Jordan Love. We can stack him with Tucker Craft, so that's an option that we can also go into.
49:44Not as sexy as Tyler Shook, of course, but Jordan Love, hey, if they let him just throw the football a little
49:51bit more, he's got a lot of weapons to work with.
49:54The metrics, advanced numbers, love Jordan Love, very high in EPA per dropback.
49:58So I think that might be our alternative path here for our number two quarterback, if that's the direction we go in.
50:05No, and as much as I'll give you a hard time for it, I'm fine with it because otherwise we would have
50:11been entering round 11 with only three wide receivers, which feels a little bit thin.
50:16Jacoby Myers, definitely a fine option to have as your wide receiver four.
50:20We've got James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid and Jacoby Myers.
50:26So coming back up on the board, Makai Lemon's falling a little bit, obviously missing bits of training camp with injuries, missed
50:33a lot of the offseason with injuries. That starts to throw up a few alarm signals.
50:38Chico Conquo falling now because Stefan Diggs is with the commanders, whereas previously you probably would have seen him off the board
50:44around the point where our last pick was made.
50:47Brendan Strange, Joanne Johnson, Matthew Golden, Tyron Tracy, Malik Willis, Keaton Mitchell, Hunter Henry and Daniel Jones, who has been earning rave
50:54reports for reportedly being very healthy, having no limitations according to the Colts training staff, which seemed like a surprise for a guy coming off an Achilles injury.
51:02But yeah, I mean, apparently fully healthy, very good.
51:05And the more newsworthy note really is that Anthony Richardson looks like he could be the QB3 and potentially a cut candidate.
51:11Like, Andrew, obviously we haven't drafted Anthony Richardson any time recently, but it does make you feel a little bit sad, doesn't it?
51:18Yeah, it does. And I think it just goes back to this thing that young quarterbacks run into when they're injured.
51:24And instead of learning the playbook and the ins and outs of being an NFL quarterback, they're constantly rehabbing injuries.
51:30And I think that's really the biggest issue with some of these quarterbacks that have failed to fire at the next level where they're always rehabbing.
51:38And I think that you can talk about that with Trey Lance when he was banged up and Richardson has been banged
51:44up for a lot of his career. And even J.G.
51:47McCarthy, again, last year, he missed his entire rookie season.
51:50And then we had it struggled in his second year because he wasn't in the playbook all the time learning the offense.
51:57It was, oh, I get into rehab my season ending injury.
52:00And that takes away a lot of time that could be well spent learning things about playing NFL quarterback.
52:06So I think that's something that sometimes I think we as a community collectively maybe overlook a little bit when a guy's injured, especially with the quarterbacks.
52:14Well, the situation matters a lot. One guy who doesn't have a great situation, but obviously has massive upside is Malik Willis.
52:20I mean, we're staring down the barrel of QB here.
52:23It's Malik Willis, Daniel Jones is the same bi-week as Lamar Jackson.
52:27Otherwise, it's Sam Darnold, CJ Stroud. I think I'd prefer that this is probably a three QB build at this point.
52:33There's nobody I love enough to be comfortable with two QB.
52:37So we take Malik Willis and then see what happens later.
52:40Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, it's not the most comfortable one.
52:43Obviously, there's plenty of downside with Malik Willis. But when you look at what he's done in the games he's played, like
52:50I think in the games where he's played 60% or more of the snaps, he's been over 40 rushing yards in like a whole bunch of them.
52:58So I'm absolutely willing to take a bit of a risk at QB too.
53:02And then we'll lock in somebody in, you know, two or three rounds as QB three, who just gives us maybe a
53:08bit of a higher floor than Malik Willis. How are you feeling about the Dolphins training camp?
53:13Like, obviously, Chris Bell, not likely to be out there anytime soon.
53:17But it just seems like a different wide receiver that you've forgotten existed, pops up every now and again, catching passes from Malik Willis in training camp highlights.
53:25Greg Dulcich, there's not been huge amounts of hype for him.
53:29It seemed there was more hype from OTAs than we've seen in training camp.
53:33Yeah, I know that he had some positive reports, I think early in training camp, but then he got a little bit
53:39banged up, which is par for the course of anyone that's invested in Greg Dulcich over the years.
53:45He's been constantly banged up and obviously this year is no different.
53:48But we're back on the clock. Tyron Tracy, Hunter Henry, Makai Lemon, Chris Rodriguez, Sam Donald, Arunda Gadsden, Debo Samuel, Casey Concepcion, TJ Hawkinson.
53:55Anybody stand out? It's either Lemon or Higgins for me, because also, too, if that way we can maybe try to find
54:02Stroud as another quarterback option, maybe a little bit later on, we'll see.
54:06So we get the Higgins stack, that could be an option.
54:09Yeah, I'm good with that. I think Higgins is going to rise up.
54:13So that's one which I'm plenty happy to take a bit of a bet on.
54:17Sorry, just going back to Greg Dulcich, you're saying he's a bit banged up, but do you still believe in him?
54:24Because going back to some of the drafts we did, I think our guy Haynes, who was in some of our drafts,
54:30was taking him as high as tight end 18 in some drafts, and that felt a little aggressive.
54:36You were comfortable kind of taking him around tight end 20.
54:39That's the range we're kind of into. Jawan Johnson went tight end 17, Chico Concoe tight end 18.
54:44The guys coming up next at the tight end position, it is Hunter Henry, who just signed that new contract extension.
54:50Arunda Gadsden, who goes off the board, TJ Hawkinson, and then Greg Dulcich.
54:54Would you take Greg Dulcich ahead of Hunter Henry or TJ Hawkinson?
54:58Yes, I would. Because I think that he has a path to be the number one target on his team.
55:04I just don't think that there's any scenario where Henry or Hawkinson can fall into that bucket.
55:09I get that there's obviously opportunities where those offenses are just so good that they can outscore Dulcich, because Dulcich is a bet on volume than anything else.
55:17I think too, when it comes to Dulcich versus the other Miami Dolphins pass catchers, that to your point, it seems like
55:24every other report we get, oh, it was Malik Washington that had a big game or a big practice.
55:29And then it was Tutu Atwell, and then it was Jalen Tolbert.
55:33I think that does actually showcase, because I know that the Malik Willis reporting has been pretty positive.
55:38I think that does at least shed some light on, hey, like Malik Willis is making these guys look a lot better
55:45than we would should expect from just the names of these certain players.
55:49So I think that does paint a picture of Malik Willis pretty well.
55:53But I guess for me, it's thinking about what do I win when I win?
55:57If I'm right about Greg Dulcich being the number one pass catcher on the Dolphins, that benefits me so much in this
56:04format, because it's tight end premium, and he's gonna rack up a bunch of catches.
56:08Whereas, okay, like I hit on one of these random receivers, that doesn't help me or move me as much because it's
56:15just you hit on a late round wide receiver.
56:17I can hit on late round wide receivers that have nothing to do with the Miami Dolphins whatsoever.
56:23Whereas tight end, we're at a point in the drafts where there's only so many tight ends that can actually lead their
56:29team in targets, where it's even a possibility without a team just getting absolutely devastated by injuries across the board.
56:35So I think Henry obviously has a much higher floor.
56:38He's going to catch a, I think, a decent amount of touchdowns in this offense attached to Drake May.
56:44But to see him outpacing Brown, Romeo Dobbs, those guys are both red zone monsters.
56:48Eli Raritan has gotten a lot of hype coming out of Patriots training camp as well.
56:53So two tight end sets. I don't think Henry's gonna have this massive target chair in this offense, even if he is
57:00a good, reliable option for Drake May. I like that argument.
57:03I'm not the biggest Greg Dulcich fan. But for a guy who's only got three career touchdowns, the path is definitely going to be targets.
57:10No cap max in the nice thing about pairing Willis with Lamar is he does have the upside with rushing to outscore
57:17Lamar in some weeks when maybe it is the Derek Henry show for the Ravens.
57:21Very much like that point of view. Look, if you're enjoying this, then don't let the party stop.
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58:03So we are through 12 rounds in this FFPC $125 best ball contest.
58:07Picking out the nine slot, James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, classic hero RB build, taking
58:13our second RB in round seven with RJ Harvey, followed by Rashad White, Dolan Kincaid, doubling down on that kind of like
58:20tight end premium format, taking Tucker Craft and Dolan Kincaid in a few rounds together.
58:24Then Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, potentially setting us up for an out to CJ Stroud if we need it in the coming rounds.
58:32Andrew, how are you feeling about this squad? We're not going to get CJ Stroud.
58:36I just looked to see where Nico Collins was and he's on the team that has one quarterback.
58:41So. Fired Boss at pick seven has Jonathan Taylor, Devon O'Chan, Nico Collins, Tee Higgins, Quinshawn Junkins, Kyle Pitts, Ramondre Stevenson, Trevor
58:48Lawrence, Michael Pittman, Jacoby Krosky-Merry, Jawan Johnson, Casey Concepcion.
58:51I've been keeping an eye on this team and they're doing some stuff.
58:55They're picking good players at good prices, but not necessarily the sharpest kind of best ball picks along the way.
59:00There would have been good opportunities for them to take quarterbacks that stacked with their players and we've kind of passed it up a few times.
59:08So perhaps they're not prioritizing that sort of stuff.
59:11They're on the clock here with 60 seconds to make their pick and they do only have one quarterback.
59:17Bryce Young just went off the board. And of course, Andrew, you got this one right.
59:21CJ Stroud does go to that pick. So we're back on the clock.
59:25Tyron Tracy hit a bit of a fall there, but he doesn't make it all the way back to us.
59:31We're staring at Zach Charbonnet, Tajay Spears, your guy Greg Dulcich, Dalton Schultz, Isaiah Pacheco, Rashid Shaheed, Tyler Algier, Kenyon Sadiq, who
59:38we could always take and set up a Gino stack, Terrence Ferguson, AJ Barnett, Dylan Sampson, Tank Bigsby.
59:43What'd you like? I like Tank Bigsby. I think that he's got some pretty high upside.
59:48I think we can push him. If anything were to happen to Barkley.
59:52So if we can push him, I like Sadiq.
59:54I think he might fall too. Sampson. I like Omar Cooper a lot to take advantage of Sadiq being hurt.
60:00Maybe that means more for Omar Cooper Jr. Those are a couple of names I like.
60:05Okay. Let's take Kenyon Sadiq. You do want to make sure you've got enough tie ends in this format.
60:11Typically over the last few years, you're looking at four tight end builds have been prevalent with the best stats.
60:17So yeah, we've got Tucker Craft, Dalton Kincaid and Kenyon Sadiq here.
60:20We've got a little while before Gino goes off the board.
60:24I think that really ADP of 176, we're at pick 153 here.
60:27So Gino would probably be the hope for round 15, but I'm completely comfortable taking Tank Bigsby in the next round if he makes it to us.
60:35After our pick, it goes Dalton Schultz, Tyler Algier.
60:38The team on the turn takes Trey Harris for the first pick.
60:41And we're looking at Zach Charbonnet, Tajay Spears, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Pacheco, who's going to miss some time.
60:47We would expect him to fall. Jaden Blue goes off the board, followed by Denzel Boston.
60:51Dylan Sampson's the only other running back I really like in this range.
60:55Not taking much Zach Charbonnet. 40% of the experts are pushing towards Zach Charbonnet though.
61:00Andrew, do you want any exposure to Zach Charbonnet or are you lower than the consensus on him?
61:05I don't want Zach Charbonnet. I can't. Again, he's a player that wasn't winning because of his explosiveness or tackle breaking ability.
61:12He was just getting a lot of red zone opportunities.
61:15And now he's coming off a season ending injury in a backfield that invested a first round pick in another running back,
61:21Jeterian Price, who I think has way more juice.
61:24So for me, I would rather go with Dylan Sampson.
61:27I'd rather go with the, is Tank Bixby still available?
61:30Tank Bixby still available. Yeah, I'd rather go with Tank.
61:33I'm absolutely fine with that. I've taken a lot of Dylan Sampson and possibly should have taken some more Tank Bixby.
61:39The reports are incredibly good at a training camp that he's adapting to this new scheme very well.
61:44And I did a show recently with Sigmund Blum, the GOAT, who just couldn't stop raving about how he wanted Tank Bixby
61:51on every single team that he was drafting. Are you aggressively going after Tank Bixby or is he someone you've kind of come around based on reports?
61:59Well, it's this revisionist history thing, right? Where you look back at how great and efficient he was last year in this
62:06offense that it seemed like nobody had a good season for the Eagles last year offensively.
62:10But when you look at Tank Bixby, who again, he wasn't playing because Barkley got hurt or whatever.
62:16They just had him out on the field. And every time he touched the ball, he was ripping off explosive play after explosive play.
62:23So as one of the weirdest career arcs we've seen for a running back where rookie year, absolute nightmare, just horrible Caleb Johnson-esque.
62:30But then he bounces back year two and it's this guy's going to take over.
62:34He's going to dethrone Travis Etienne at the time.
62:37And then he gets traded to the Eagles the following season because they dropped HL Tootin.
62:42So just like a very bizarre career for him.
62:44But along the way, he has shown really big flashes.
62:47I know speaking as a Patriots fan, he destroyed the Patriots in London.
62:51Just an absolute monster. Tank Bixby, worthy of his name being Tank coming out of Auburn.
62:56So I think that right now, 14th round pick betting against Saquon Barkley, staying healthy for a full season as an older
63:02running back coming off again, still had a lot of touches last year.
63:06I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
63:09Billy Baruch saying, does Sutton go in the ninth based on last year's stats in this draft?
63:14He went at the wide receiver 38. I mean, for me, that feels completely fine for Cortland Sutton.
63:19Yes, it's touchdown upside. But Andrew, Billy Baruch is talking to two certified Jalen Waddell truthers, isn't he?
63:25Yes, for sure. I think the thing with Sutton is a lot of just forecasting because we saw the fall off last
63:31year in terms of just the second half of the season.
63:35Troy Franken was eating into this guy's targets, routes, red zone usage.
63:38And now it seems like Pat Bryant might be doing that.
63:41And Pat Bryant actually looks more like a Cortland Sutton type of receiver than Troy Franklin.
63:46And Troy Franklin, he was not good with his opportunities.
63:49Whereas Pat Bryant, at least limited time last year when he was healthy in the second half of the year.
63:55I mean, there was that playoff game where Pat Bryant had like five catches on the first drive and then he got
64:02concussed and got knocked out of the game. But I mean, Pat Bryant's a guy we're going to be talking about as
64:08we get into these later rounds of a player that second year receiver, I did not like him a lot as a prospect.
64:15He did way more than I thought he was going to do during his rookie season.
64:20And so far, the camp reports have been positive with him.
64:23And again, as much as we love Waddle here at Fantasy Pros, collectively, the guy has real estate in the blue medical tent.
64:30And it is the worst thing in the world because he seems like he's always battling or limping off the field and
64:37he's already kind of dealing with something in training camp.
64:39So again, I love his upside, but I've got to recognize that he is a bit fragile.
64:45And if he were to miss time, then the other receivers on this Broncos offense that we still expect to be prolific, they're going to benefit from that.
64:53Yeah. I think that sums it up quite nicely.
64:56We had a question in the chat. Camden season, is there any way I can leave a draft optimizer at Best Ball Drafts on DraftKings?
65:03I know thanks to producer Sal that it connects to Yahoo and BB10s.
65:07Not entirely sure about DraftKings. Andrew, do you know that one?
65:10I do believe we do not have the DraftKings optimizer set up for this year.
65:15I think it's something that we might be looking to add again in the future.
65:19But for right now, FFPC, the Yahoo, Best Ball Tens, those are the main ones that we have with the optimizer.
65:25However, I think that you can still add manually the rosters and you can get a league analyzer type of recap of it.
65:32You just won't be able to use the Draft Assistant live.
65:35However, you can still also too, but as like a side note, you can draft against the ADP in the mock draft simulator.
65:42So to kind of prepare yourself for, okay, like this is the first time I've ever done a DraftKings Best Ball draft.
65:49What am I getting into? Instead of, okay, burning a couple bucks, just, you know, 15 minutes, run through a couple of
65:55mocks, especially the early rounds against DraftKings Best Ball ADP, especially against the rankings, against ECR, kind of get a feel for it.
66:02And then you can jump into one of those rooms.
66:05You'll feel way more prepared. So we're in round 15.
66:08Greg Dulcich goes as tight end 28. I mean, that feels like value.
66:12Terrence Ferguson, AJ Barner, KDOT, and Pat Fryer move.
66:15Greg Dulcich and Gunnhelm go in a sea of purple over here on FFPC, but a sea of red on the Draft Assistant.
66:22Our team so far, we've got two quarterbacks, four running backs, five wide receivers, and three tight ends.
66:27Obviously, tight end will probably potentially be able to take another dart throw in the last couple of rounds.
66:33Quarterback, it'd be nice to get a third quarterback, but running back and wide receiver.
66:37We've got four running backs, five wide receivers. Andrew, how do you kind of see this team structurally and what we might
66:44need to fill it out with over the next few picks?
66:47So I think that we have been flexible enough where we can kind of go towards a BPA.
66:52I think that getting a third quarterback is obviously important.
66:55I know you talked about Geno Smith. I have no issues just kind of taking him off the board here and making
67:02sure that we get our third quarterback. We have a stacking partner with one of our tight ends, a Kenyon Sadiq.
67:08We can even look at a player like A.D.
67:11Mitchell, I think, is still available on the board as another wide receiver pairing.
67:15I mean, A.D. Mitchell, man, that guy's good at football.
67:18I don't know if he's good at anything. And sometimes that's enough.
67:21So I think getting some, again, getting Jets players, but maybe that's the direction we go to.
67:26But I do think getting that third quarterback matters a lot because do we want to do the Browns game where it's pick your Browns quarterback of choice?
67:35I mean, I'm never going to draft Deshaun Watson.
67:37I would rather just bet on Shader Sanders. But again, I feel much better about Geno than either of those guys.
67:44And then maybe we can get Dylan Sampson to fall back to us.
67:48I know the experts like him a lot here, and I know that we are both big fans of Sampson.
67:54Yeah. Well, one thing which we haven't talked about is a breakout that's happening consistently day in, day out.
67:59The beat reporters of this team can't believe this player is playing to the standard he is called here.
68:05One beat reporter who'd covered this team for 30 years said he was one of the most impressive rookies he's ever seen.
68:11That's Jacoby Lane of the Baltimore Ravens. I didn't see this come in.
68:15Geno Smith gets drafted by the team who took CJ Stroud off us as well.
68:20So it doesn't feel like an area where we should be going towards quarterback room, but Jacoby Lane would stack nicely with Lamar Jackson later.
68:27We are one pick away. Jalen Naylor goes right before us.
68:30The quarterback situation, it's not fun. It is Fernando Mendoza, Tua, Shadir Sanders, Kirk Cousins, Carson Beck.
68:36I don't want to be wasting the draft pick on these guys right now.
68:40We could take Dylan Sampson, Brian Robinson, Travis Hunter, Ryan Flournoy, Fernando Mendoza, Justice Hill, Omar Cooper, Jerry Judy, Jawan Jennings.
68:46Mylene's Dylan Sampson. What about you, Andrew? Mylene is also Dylan Sampson.
68:50So we'll get the Sampson-Shadir Sanders stack later in the draft.
68:53So let's go with Sampson here. Hey, I know this isn't a super flex, guys.
68:57We'll be okay. We'll be okay with these quarterbacks.
69:00Yeah, definitely. And Deer over here kind of does tilt towards three QB builds slightly ahead of kind of two QB or four QB builds.
69:07So we don't need a lot here. It would have been nice to have another good quarterback.
69:12But if Malik Willis goes out there, if Lamar Jackson has a QB two season, then we're probably okay.
69:18But yes, it would have felt a little more comfortable.
69:21But hey, sometimes in fantasy football and best ball, you have to be comfortable getting uncomfortable.
69:26How high are you willing to chase for Jacoby Lane train?
69:29Not that high, to be honest. I thought that Surratt was a better overall prospect than Jacoby Lane.
69:34Now the Ravens disagreed with me because they took Jacoby Lane first and Elijah Surratt second.
69:39It kind of reminds me a little bit of when Romeo Dobbs was the bell of the ball at Packers camp and nobody cared about Christian Watson.
69:47And then when they played on the field, Christian Watson was like superiorly and so much better.
69:52Now that was a little bit different because Watson was still drafted first.
69:56So, and haven't the Ravens done this before where the guy they draft first is not the best guy?
70:02And it's the guy that they draft second that actually ends it being the David again, not to make the Hayden Hurst
70:08Lamar Jackson comparison, but like they do this all the time.
70:12So I think that at least makes him draftable because I think that's something that he wasn't being drafted in every format.
70:18And because we have Lamar Jackson, I mean, I don't mind spending a 17th, 18th run pick on a rookie receiver that
70:25has some red zone juice and again, not a bad prospect in his run.
70:29I just, I thought Surratt was better personally. So we're back on the clock.
70:33Uh, Travis Hunter, Ryan Flournoy, Justice Hill, Omar Cooper, Jerry Judy, Jawan Jennings, Braylon Allen, David Njoku, AD Mitchell, Ray Davis, Malik Washington, Calvin Ridley.
70:41What are you liking this range? I mean, if we took Justice Hill, we'd be pretty good at running back for, you
70:47know, maybe one more pick at most if we needed to, but six could be potentially done.
70:52Or do you like one of the wide receivers with 14 seconds?
70:56I like Omar Cooper. That's the guy I have ranked high as either Omar Cooper or AD Mitchell.
71:01Just let's get some Jats players in here, especially if Sadiq is missing time.
71:05Then one of these receivers should pick up the slack.
71:08So I'm good with Omar Cooper. Uh, reports at training camp suggest Gino Smith has looked not, not necessarily excellent.
71:14That might be getting a little too far ahead, but Jets beat reporters can't stop talking about how good the offense looks.
71:21And part of it might be Jets defense is probably going to be pretty bad this year, but it seems like they're
71:27getting competent quarterback play, which isn't something we've always been able to say.
71:31For the Jets. I mean, we've rarely been able to say for the Jets.
71:35I know a lot of people were very down on Gino Smith coming out of Las Vegas, but so much of that
71:42came back to the bad offensive line. The Jets on paper have a good offensive line.
71:47Obviously when the tackles start flying, things can change, but getting Omar Cooper here, wide receiver 67 feels pretty good.
71:53I'm fine with that. We are starting to load up a little bit on week 13 buys, just something to be slightly mindful of.
72:00We've got Lamar Jackson, Zay Flowers, Omar Cooper, and Kenyon Sadiq.
72:03So it's not drastic, but we probably can't go too heavy with Ravens wide receivers to round things out.
72:09I mean, hey, that's fine. I'm going to be all right.
72:12So through 16 rounds, we have James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White,
72:18Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, Kenyon Sadiq, Tank Bixby, Dylan Sampson, and Omar Cooper.
72:24The quarterbacks are falling elsewhere. Andrew, at this point, I think we're probably just looking at a 2QB build.
72:29Either 2QB build or we add Mendoza because I think that he's going to start games in the second half of the season.
72:36I mean, Michael Penix too, like he goes so late where we could probably even just like grab him in like the 20th round.
72:43Honestly, it's like that he's just like a viable player.
72:46But to your point, we don't need to prioritize quarterback in any way, shape or form.
72:51And worst case scenario, we just run it with Willis and Lamar Jackson and just, hey, rushing quarterbacks.
72:56We'll see how things shake out because again, none of these other guys are guaranteed any types of longevity starting wise.
73:03Willis with Mendoza, or actually not Mendoza's, he's, no, he's already gone.
73:06So yeah, it doesn't even matter. So yeah, definitely then we're not touching quarterback.
73:10Yeah, we're through 32 quarterbacks at this point in the draft.
73:14We're through 68 wide receivers. We're through 58 running backs and 30 tight ends.
73:18So definitely getting down to the dregs as we head towards round 17.
73:22M-Man Sam, truly appreciate all your questions tonight. Do either of you have any late round rookie draft sleepers?
73:2710 team league super flex. Also, I can see a path for Beck to become this year's Tyler Shook if the cards fall right this year.
73:35I'm a lot cooler on Carson Beck. I think as a prospect, I really didn't enjoy his profile.
73:40I didn't enjoy watching his film. So I'll let you take the charge on that one.
73:45But as far as late round rookie draft sleepers, Andrew, who are some of your favorite guys?
73:50But the rookie sleepers, I know that Cyrus Allen is someone that's still ranked really, really low on a lot of these
73:57draft sites just because he didn't have a lot of, he was still someone that I was very much like, Hey, we
74:03got to keep tabs on this player. And the fact that he's been really buzzy at training camp, and maybe this is
74:10just Justin Ross or Jalen Royals, like it's like the same thing with the Chiefs and his rookie receivers that always bomb.
74:16As someone astutely pointed out to me on X, and I'm thinking, man, you're not wrong here, but I'm still going to
74:23do it again anyway, because I liked Cyrus Allen's prospect profile a ton.
74:27I thought it was really, really cool. I did a thread on him.
74:31So go check out on my X account at Andrew Erickson underscore.
74:34But I thought that it was really intriguing. And the fact that the opportunity is there for him, man, like Rice banged
74:41up, Worthy's banged up, Kelsey's 37 years old. They got to throw the ball to somebody, right?
74:46And if he's out there, maybe he can make the most of it.
74:50So I know this means type one Thornton season breakout is most guaranteed going to happen.
74:54But Cyrus Allen to me is someone that I like getting in late in some of these rookie drafts, especially because he's
75:01just buried in a lot of those rankings. Yeah.
75:04Adam Randall worth considering for the Ravens slightly Seth McGowan for the Colts seems like he's completely taken the RB2 job away
75:10from DJ Giddens, which wasn't something I expected. I thought DJ Giddens had enough talent that he would be able to win
75:17that one, but it doesn't sound like it's happening.
75:19Jacoby Lane, who we already mentioned, Eli Raradon, who's had really good reports throughout training camp and even going back to earlier in the offseason at OTA.
75:27So I like all of those. Haynes, good evening.
75:30Appreciate you catching up with us and watching tonight.
75:33Haynes, this is our team. Let us know how we are doing.
75:36James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis,
75:43Jaden Higgins, Kenyon Sadiq, Tank Bigsby, Dylan Sampson, and Omar Cooper with four picks left to go.
75:48And DashRiotX, appreciate you too. We are having a great time over here on Twitch and make sure you let the people
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76:01If you want to see it on the website, you've got to let them know.
76:06Tell them that you need me and Andrew drafting more teams in your life and we will try and make it happen.
76:12I think the next time that we're going to be drafting myself and Andrew, are we going back head-to-head in the Superflex streets, Andrew?
76:20Oh yeah. We've got to end it on a high note.
76:23Going head-to-head. None of this team crap. Yeah. So all I hear there is Andrew's taking Drake May at 102.
76:29Basically. Got to stay on brand. So one thing I think that some people don't consider is the shift from Best Ball to Redraft.
76:36Like around this time of year, do you find it a little bit of a mind melt to go from, okay, I've drafted so many Best Ball teams.
76:44We've drafted so many different teams where the ADP is completely different to home leagues.
76:49How do you kind of like readjust to those different settings?
76:52I think that taking a break from Best Ball drafting is actually really helpful in terms of like shifting your focus into redraft.
76:59And I think that the mock draft simulator helps a ton with that, especially when you sync up your league and you
77:05practice drafting from the slot that you know you're going to be in and you're drafting two weeks.
77:11We just pulled the draft slots for one of my buddy's leagues.
77:14I'm picking the 11th spot. So, you know, whenever I'm doing any of these mock drafts on the Fantasy Pros podcast, YouTube
77:21feed, I'm picking from that 11th spot. I want to know to a T exactly who's going to be there based on the ADP.
77:28And I think that's a lot different from Best Ball where it's a little bit more of building your portfolio.
77:34Also too, you got to remember, you got to start these guys.
77:38You got to make start sit decisions. It's not just you take the best weeks and you don't have to worry about
77:44the bad weeks, waiver wire options, and early season schedule.
77:47I think that matters a lot. Starting out the season on a high note is very, very important.
77:52I think because that's what you remember the most.
77:55You draft a busted player. Usually that's because they were just bad to start the year the first four weeks of the season.
78:02Even if they improve in the second half, nobody remembers that.
78:05Everyone just remembers how bad they were to start the year and they get labeled bust.
78:10So those are a couple of things I look at when kind of making the shift from Best Ball into redraft.
78:16Yeah, I like that. I think that makes a lot of sense.
78:20I write a series for fantasypros.com on how to draft from each slot, which pretty much you go on the website, you'll
78:26find one of them most days of the week.
78:29And I haven't started writing that from June. In June, we're kind of talking more Best Ball ADP because the data is just not there.
78:36There's not a lot of redraft going on. By the time we get to this point in the offseason, I can go
78:43back and look at my June versions of how to draft from the 106 versus August 106.
78:48And the changes are massive because people drafting at this time of year, they just want to move towards different things.
78:54So it's worth zooming out, looking at the ADP trends, looking at the ADP for your platform in particular.
79:00And like Andrew says, using the draft assistant. So plenty of good stuff there.
79:04We're two picks away and we're in a pretty good position.
79:07I like a lot of what we've done so far.
79:10AD Mitchell is available to us. Malik Washington, Calvin Ridley, Emmitt Johnson, Isaac Tesla, Kalen Black, Keishon Booty, Antonio Williams, Rashad Bateman,
79:17Katron Fatman Allen, Jake Tongs, Kamani Vidal, Jordan James, Zachariah Branch.
79:20You said plenty of smoke about him. Andrew, what do you see?
79:24What do you say? I like Singleton. If we want to go running back here, just, you know, taking a shot on a rookie running back receiver.
79:32We saw Mitchell went off the board. Malik Washington's off the board.
79:35Yeah. I mean, we can take one of your Ravens guys as, as your, uh, if you want to just continue to
79:42build into that Raven stack, uh, James Conner is too good and running back.
79:46Maybe he gets traded. Yeah. I think James Conner will make it back for a little while.
79:51Let's go Nicholas Singleton. I think that works. That's fun.
79:54And then I think we're definitely done at running back there.
79:57We've now got a running back room with James Cook, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Tank Bixby, Dylan Sampson, Nicholas Singleton, after only
80:04taking one in the first six rounds. So maybe, maybe I'll let you talk me into one more running back.
80:10Uh, DashRiteX saying, Raradon, a dart throw for me.
80:13Not into him this year, but going forward, he's a mad interesting prospect.
80:16Absolutely. Yeah. I think that that's a, particularly for Dynasty League is going to be interesting.
80:21Keep watching though, cause there's a good chance that Andrew's going to try and talk me into taking him in the 20th round.
80:28Well, I, I, I will, I won't be, I won't be doing that cause I'm going to have to run soon.
80:34So, cause I got another show I'm going to be doing.
80:38So Tom, you're going to have to steer the ship with the final picks here.
80:42So I know, so I know it's going to be a lot of Ravens to, to finish up here, but we'll make
80:49this one last pick together and then, uh, you'll have to bring us home.
80:53Well, Cyrus Allen goes two picks before we're on the board, three picks before we're on the board.
80:58Since our last pick, it was Michael Mayer, Samarji Piran, Isaac Tesla, Calvin Ridley, Catron Allen, of course, Cyrus Allen.
81:04Do you want James Conner as your last pick here before I completely put the finishing touches on this team?
81:10I don't think so. Cause I think you just made a good point about how many running backs we already have.
81:16And we're probably in a good spot there. So like in the James Conner thing seems like such a wild card of,
81:23okay, like maybe he gets on a new team, but the Cardinals seem like they're obsessed with his like leadership and they
81:29want to keep him on the roster. Yeah. So, uh, maybe that's not the direction to go.
81:34If we wanted to go with another wide receiver here, let's see.
81:38Uh, so looking at wide receiver with eight seconds left, Kayshawn Booty, Antonio Williams, Richard Bateman, Zechariah Branch, Donovan, Keenan Al.
81:44Let's just do Jacoby Lane. Jacoby Lane. Let's bring him home.
81:48Let's bring him home. James Conner. I don't pick.
81:50Andrew, that wasn't the note we wanted to wear this draft on, but he was to clear value.
81:56That's fine. Getting him at RB66. James Cook, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Tank Bixby, Dylan Sampson, Nicholas Singleton, James Conner.
82:02Andrew, you get out of here and I will steer the ship all the way home on this one.
82:07And I guess I'll just have just an extra $20,000 more of the $400,000 that we leave here with.
82:13So chat, I'm going to give you guys an opportunity to make a pick here.
82:17I'm going to let one of you in the chat make a pick.
82:21If you can tell me, first person to tell me what team Van Jefferson is on gets to decide who we pick with the 19th round pick.
82:29Van Jefferson. What team is he currently on? Because I was surprised.
82:33I was surprised he was signed to a team.
82:35We get down with the dregs. It's a lot of fun.
82:39And Ed Manson going with Titans, which is incorrect.
82:41Although he did a tiny bit of success there a couple of years ago.
82:46Haynes has got it. The Washington Commanders. Van Jefferson currently wide receiver four behind.
82:50Traylon Burks, I guess. Haynes, let me know where we're going with the 19th round.
82:54Give me a couple of guys to queue up.
82:57I'll let you know some of the guys we've got at ADP at the minute.
83:01It is. Caelan Black, Keishon Booty, Antonio Williams, Rashad Bateman, Kamani Vidal, Zachariah Branch, George Helani, Donald Mooney, Eli Stowers, Keenan Allen,
83:08Cooper Cup, Jeremy Bernard, Ted Hurst, who's having a really strong camp.
83:11Tyquan Thornton, Ty Johnson, Torrey Horton, Imari Di Mercado.
83:14Let me know. Ed Manson saying Ted Hurst is an intriguing pick.
83:18Haynes wants Keenan Allen and Ted Hurst in the queue.
83:21So let me get those put in there. I've drafted a lot of Keenan Allen, just assuming that he's going to end up with somebody.
83:28It sounds like the links with the Colts sooner or later it's going to happen.
83:33I mean, obviously Josh Downs missing a bit of time.
83:36Alec Pearce, the news today that he's not even particularly close to being back out there.
83:40Ted Hurst goes off the board. Well done, Haynes.
83:43You jinx yourself on that one. So now we're hoping that Keenan Allen makes it back to us as what we have six wide receivers already.
83:51We have CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Jacoby Myers, Jaden Higgins, and Omar Cooper.
83:55So we could do with wide receivers here. I'll potentially look at the tight end position in the final round since our
84:02last pick where we took James Connor, Andrew's final pick, as he panicked and shouted about Jacoby Lane.
84:07Jake Tongs, then Jacoby Lane, Demon Claiborne, Mason Taylor, Darnell Washington, Jordan James, Emmett Johnson, Caelan Black, Antonio Williams, Zachariah Branch, George
84:14Alani, Ted Hurst, Kamani Vidal, Malachi Fields. Anybody drafting much Malachi Fields with the Giants situation, what it is?
84:19Obviously if Malik Neighbors gets out there fairly early, that really caps, I think, the ability for anyone else to be relevant of the wide receiver position.
84:27Isaiah likely I still feel pretty good about. Yeah, M-Man Sam saying Stribbling is another wide receiver that he feels good about in this draft.
84:35Let's see, where did Stribbling go? 13-02, all the way up here.
84:38Like, that is definitely a big jump based on the Ricky Peircell news of last week.
84:43Mike Evans did fall slightly down to wide receiver 27 in this one due to, I think it's a quad strain or
84:50something mild, but expected to be back out there soon, so that should work out all right.
84:55Haynes, as the winner of the inaugural best ball question Q&A, we're back on the clock.
85:00I'm going to assume that you want Keenan Allen and take him for you.
85:04I'm just glad you went with somebody good there.
85:06So, with one more pick in this $125 entry best ball draft, James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zae Flowers, Lamar Jackson,
85:13Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, Kenyon Sadiq, Tank Bigsby, Dylan Sampson, Omar Cooper,
85:19Nicholas Singleton, James Conner, and Keenan Allen. This feels like a pretty good roster to me.
85:24I would have liked if one of Jacoby Lane or Rashad Bateman was stacked with Lamar.
85:29I think that we're going to see plenty of fun players, fun games for the Ravens under this new offense.
85:35A lot of tight ends going off the board on the corner.
85:39Eli Raradon, Elijah Royal, Charlie Kohler, followed by Demario Douglas.
85:41Plenty of fun for him. And Week 17 bring back Haynes to say it in the chat for Eric Hall.
85:47Finish this draft out with Eric Hall. Why not?
85:50We need another tight end, really, this format. Quite often you need four tight ends.
85:55So, we finish with a $400,000 team that looks like James Cook, CeeDee Lamb, Chris Olave, Zay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, paired with
86:01Eric Hall for the Week 17 matchup. Tucker Craft, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Dalton Kincaid, Jacoby Myers, Malik Willis, Jaden Higgins, Kenyon
86:08Sadiq, Tank Bigsby, Dylan Sampson, Omar Cooper, Nicholas Singleton, James Conner, Keenan Allen, and Eric Hall.
86:12It's this year that he stays healthy. This was a lot of fun.
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