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Week 8 Fantasy Football Reactions & Injuries + Early Week 9 Waiver Wire (Ep. 2310)

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54 min
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Estimated from transcript
Nov 2, 2026
Published
Mon, November 2, 2026
71
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45
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D.J. MooreJustin JeffersonMichael WilsonAshton JeantyZay FlowersDerrick HenryGardner MinshewGarrett WilsonJames CookJeremiyah LoveJoe FlaccoJordan MasonKeon ColemanKyler Murray
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Adonai Mitchell

NegativeRole47:28

Mitchell returned from a finger injury and initially did nothing, then blew up in a subsequent game, exemplifying the unpredictable target distribution in the Jets offense where any receiver can have a good or bad game in any given week.

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Ashton Jeanty

NegativeRole19:20

Jeanty was communicated to that he'll get fewer carries moving forward; the source assumes this split will continue. He moves from RB1 to RB2/RB3 borderline. Despite being fantastic through the air and keeping fantasy finishes respectable, getting only two carries is concerning. Washington is getting more goal-line work, though Jeanty may still retain some red zone touches.

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NegativeValue21:00

Jeanty was a high draft pick, so his current value likely won't allow for a cheap trade. The source would only target him if someone panics and sells dirt cheap, but doubts many owners will do so. It's worth making an offer, but don't expect to acquire him at a discount.

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NegativeUsage39:15

Ashton Jeanty saw a dramatic reduction in carries (15 fewer) in Week 8, raising concerns about his workload sustainability. The source assigns a panic meter of 5-6, acknowledging that while he may retain RB1 fantasy relevance, the days of him being a top-five running back appear over. The source suggests his reduced role may persist going forward, though uncertainty remains about whether this was a one-week anomaly or a trend.

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Baker Mayfield

NegativeProjection0:22

Baker Mayfield scored zero points in Week 8 for Scott Bogman's 16-man league, contributing to a disappointing fantasy week. The source jokingly suggests the Steelers need to run triple-option plays to help their quarterback, indicating Mayfield's poor performance.

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Bryce Young

NegativeProjection49:09

Young has played pretty bad the last two weeks; the source's biggest fear is the Panthers' offensive line, with their best lineman injured, which is exposing Young's inability to handle pressure effectively. This suggests a return to poor performance if offensive line issues persist.

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Bucky Irving

PositiveProjection50:00

Irving is the preferred rest-of-season choice over Parker Washington; the source guarantees Irving gets touches every single week, specifically with Baker playing well. This makes Irving a more reliable fantasy asset than Washington.

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Cam Sims

NegativeValue38:20

In a comparison between Cam Sims and Justin Jefferson for the rest of the season, the source would rather have Jefferson because they believe the Vikings will trade for Jonathan Taylor, which could improve the team's situation.

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Carson Beck

NegativeRole5:25

Carson Beck remains the backup quarterback for Arizona and may get an opportunity to play in the final 5-6 weeks of the season if Gardner Minshew struggles. The source notes the Cardinals may want to evaluate Beck as a potential future franchise quarterback given the upcoming QB-heavy draft class.

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Carson Wentz

PositiveProjection36:40

Carson Wentz was good with Justin Jefferson last year and in Week 1-2 this year. The source views him like James Winston—he'll throw one to three interceptions and have some crazy plays, but will provide fantasy relevance. Wentz would provide more fantasy value for ancillary weapons than Kyler Murray.

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Chase Brown

PositiveUsage33:20

Chase Brown had way more snaps than Ajay P Ryan (51 to 26 on 74 total snaps) and ran more routes than P Ryan had snaps. He had nine targets, eight receptions, 12 carries, and nearly 100 total yards. The source would buy him low, believing he'll get more touches and goal-line work moving forward. This is the fourth time the source has recommended buying low on Brown.

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D.J. Moore

PositiveProjection0:09

Had a good game in Week 8; the source was looking to trade him when injured but notes the trade window is probably closed now given his recent performance.

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NegativeInjury1:05

DJ Moore suffered a knee injury in Week 8. The source lists this among the major injuries of the week but does not provide additional details on severity or timeline.

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NegativeInjury6:48

DJ Moore suffered a knee injury in Week 8 after dealing with a shoulder injury earlier in the season; the source notes the knee injury did not look severe based on medical commentary, but severity remains unknown until official evaluation; players have played the following week with similar injuries, making his Week 9 status dependent on final severity assessment.

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PositiveProjection7:21

DJ Moore had a strong Week 8 performance with an awesome catch; the source notes he was looking to trade Moore when injured earlier, but that window is now closed after his good game, suggesting improved outlook.

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Derrick Henry

NegativeUsage0:32

Derrick Henry saw reduced snap share in Week 8 after Lamar Jackson's injury caused the Ravens game to get out of reach. Justice Hill received more snaps than Henry in the second half, suggesting the Ravens shifted to a backup quarterback game script that favored the pass-catching back.

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NegativeProjection3:21

Derrick Henry will see fewer touchdown opportunities with the backup quarterback situation in Baltimore following Lamar Jackson's injury. The source notes that the weaker quarterback play will make it harder to drive into the red zone, reducing Henry's scoring ceiling despite his volume.

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Eli Raridon

PositiveRole0:01

If Hunter Henry is out, Eli Rariton becomes a viable option; he has flashed in the past and can score touchdowns. In tight end premium or deep leagues, he's definitely on the radar as a streaming option in good matchups.

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Gardner Minshew

NegativeRole5:25

Gardner Minshew took over as the Cardinals' starting quarterback after Kyler Murray's injury, leading Arizona to an overtime win on the road against Dallas. The source expects Minshew to start for at least the next week or two, with the possibility of Carson Beck getting a chance later if Minshew struggles, as the team evaluates their future QB options.

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PositiveProjection27:00

Gardner Minshew took over for Jacoby Brissett and looked better this week. The source doesn't expect a huge drop-off with Minshew and is not too afraid of the Cardinals offense with him at QB. Minshew and Brissett are described as similar players (the Spider-Man meme), so the transition should be relatively seamless for fantasy purposes.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveUsage46:47

Garrett Wilson got much of the target volume last week when Omar Cooper Jr. was shut out, illustrating the game-to-game volatility in the Jets' wide receiver target distribution under Gino Smith.

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PositiveRole47:27

Wilson's target share has collapsed amid Jets offensive depth; he hasn't had a good game in his last three outings despite preseason expectations of heavy target volume. The Jets now have seven mouths to feed (Sadiq, Mason Taylor, Omar Cooper, Adonai Mitchell, and others), creating a whack-a-mole situation where targets rotate heavily week-to-week rather than concentrating on Wilson as anticipated.

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Hunter Henry

NegativeInjury0:47

Got hurt in the 4 PM game against the Dolphins and did not return; the source notes he is the only guy on the injury list with fantasy relevance that people would be starting.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeProjection33:30

Jamar Chase hasn't had an amazing year; he's been fine but not a true WR1. He and T Higgins blew up in Week 8, but Chase's season has been disappointing relative to expectations. He has no games this year with 100 yards, with his closest being Week 1 with 92 yards and two touchdowns.

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Jacoby Brissett

NegativeRole27:00

Jacoby Brissett was benched after a bad game. The source believes it's likely Minshew season now and doesn't think the Cardinals will go back to Brissett, as benching a high-paid QB typically signals a permanent change.

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Jake Ferguson

PositiveInjury0:38

Left with an ankle injury deemed a low ankle sprain, not a high ankle sprain, which is a more favorable injury prognosis than the alternative.

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James Cook

NegativeInjury0:57

James Cook returned from an injury in Week 8 but then got hurt again, returned again, and got hurt a third time. The source expresses uncertainty about his status going forward, saying 'we should be fine, but we'll see what we have there,' indicating concern about durability.

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PositiveInjury6:27

James Cook suffered two separate injuries in the same game—a neck injury evaluated for concussion and a leg injury—but returned to play both times; the source assumes he is fine because the game was out of reach when he re-entered, suggesting the injuries were minor.

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Jaylen Warren

NegativeInjury5:13

Jaylen Warren suffered a significant injury in Week 8, contributing to the Cardinals' offensive losses alongside Jeremiah Love. The injury impacts Arizona's backfield depth and forces more offensive reliance on passing game targets.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeInjury1:05

Jeremiah Love suffered an ankle injury in Week 8. The source characterizes this as 'tough stuff' but does not provide additional details on severity or timeline.

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NegativeInjury5:13

Jeremiah Love is banged up following Week 8, contributing to Arizona's backfield injuries alongside Jaylen Warren. The dual running back injuries force the Cardinals to lean more heavily on their passing game.

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Joe Flacco

NegativeRole0:42

Joe Flacco is now the Ravens' starting quarterback with Lamar Jackson on IR and Tyler Huntley getting an MRI. Flacco is banged up and not 100 percent healthy, but will get 3-4 days of practice with the first-team offense before Thursday's game. The source notes Flacco had a strong college season at UConn (28 TDs, 1 INT) and was careful with the ball, but the Ravens offense will take a downgrade with him under center.

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NegativeProjection23:00

Joe Flacco was undrafted but the source likes him coming in as the Ravens' third-string QB. He had over 3,000 yards, 28-48 touchdowns, and one pick through six picks in his collegiate career. However, this game is coming up in four days for Thursday night football, making this week really bad. The source doesn't want to panic too much on Ravens receivers despite the QB change.

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Jordan Mason

NegativeRole44:05

Mason held on IR for weeks but disappointing so far; DJ Dallas was ahead of him in snaps this week, raising concerns about his role clarity. The source recommends holding in 12+ team leagues with deeper benches since there's limited wire talent, but suggests dumping in 10-12 team leagues with short benches. Aaron Jones' fragility and Kyler's struggles suggest the 49ers will focus more on the run game, but the depth chart usage this week is concerning.

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NegativeMatchup45:34

Mason faces a tough matchup against Detroit's improving defense, which has always been a pass funnel under Dan Campbell—they welcome the pass and stop the run. This was never a great matchup for Mason, and the source recommends giving him another week to see if the 49ers' run game focus materializes.

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Justice Hill

PositiveUsage0:32

Justice Hill saw increased snap share in Week 8 after Lamar Jackson's injury caused the Ravens game to get out of reach. The source notes the team saw 'more Justice Hill than Derrick Henry in terms of snaps,' suggesting Hill benefited from the backup quarterback game script.

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Justin Jefferson

NegativeMatchup33:37

The source expresses concern about Justin Jefferson's performance due to Kyler Murray's quarterback play, comparing Murray's current performance to Brock Osweiler's poor play and suggesting the Cardinals' QB situation is severely impacting Jefferson's fantasy viability.

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NegativeProjection33:37

Justin Jefferson's season-long inconsistency has prompted a high panic meter of 7-8 from the source. Despite his talent, Jefferson has been unreliable week-to-week (described as 50/50 to score in every game) and the source attributes much of the problem to poor quarterback play from Kyler Murray, comparing the situation to past receiver struggles under bad QB play (Larry Fitzgerald, DeAndre Hopkins). With more than halfway through the regular season elapsed, the source expresses concern that Jefferson's inconsistency may persist.

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NegativeProjection34:00

Justin Jefferson has been frustrating this year. He has five receptions on 33 yards with no games over 100 yards; his closest was Week 1 with 92 yards and two touchdowns. The source was scared to draft him this year and notes that if your quarterback isn't good, it doesn't matter how good the receiver is. Kyler Murray stinks and they don't have another option, making Jefferson a WR2 at best.

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NegativeRole34:00

Justin Jefferson and Kyler Murray are not on the same page. The source thinks they need to start viewing Jefferson as a WR2, not a WR1, despite his ton of targets. The Vikings may be on the hunt for a QB next year. The source is out on Jefferson and would trade him for a pretty good price.

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Kendrick Bourne

NegativeInjury0:47

Suffered a high ankle sprain, which is a more serious injury with longer recovery timeline than a low ankle sprain.

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Kenneth Walker III

NegativeProjection0:40

Kenneth Walker underperformed in Week 8, contributing to a league-leading team's fantasy collapse. Matt Modai had the best record and most points for in his league but saw his season 'flipped on its head' after Zay Flowers and Kenneth Walker both disappointed.

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Keon Coleman

NegativeProjection0:05

Almost had a good game in Week 8; Josh Allen just missed him on a deep shot, indicating opportunity but inconsistent execution.

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NegativeProjection7:21

Keon Coleman almost had a good game in Week 8 but Josh Allen missed him on a deep shot, suggesting missed opportunity for a strong performance.

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Kyler Murray

NegativeInjury5:25

Kyler Murray suffered an injury that forced him out of the Cardinals' Week 8 game, leading to Gardner Minshew taking over as starter. The source indicates Murray's injury is significant enough to warrant a quarterback change.

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NegativeProjection34:00

Kyler Murray stinks and is the primary reason for Justin Jefferson's underperformance. The source notes that even when Marvin Harrison Jr. left, he still sucked, suggesting the problem is Kyler, not the receivers. Carson Wentz would provide more fantasy value for ancillary weapons than Kyler.

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Lamar Jackson

NegativeInjury0:30

Lamar Jackson suffered a thumb injury in Week 8 and the Ravens coach announced he will have surgery and be placed on IR. The injury appears severe; the source notes his thumb 'looked gross' and suggests he is 'definitely not going to do the Kyler' (implying he won't return quickly like Kyler Murray did). This removes the Ravens' elite quarterback from fantasy consideration for the foreseeable future.

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NegativeInjury3:04

Lamar Jackson is on IR and likely done for the season with a severe thumb injury. The source notes his thumb 'looked gross' and compares his situation unfavorably to Kyler Murray's injury, suggesting the thumb injury is serious enough to end his season.

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Malik Willis

PositiveRole49:09

Willis has rushing upside and is being considered as a viable replacement for Bryce Young in fantasy lineups. The source is okay with the swap, noting Willis offers a different skill set with ground game potential.

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Mark Andrews

NegativeProjection22:00

With the Ravens' quarterback situation in flux due to Lamar Jackson and Tyler Huntley injuries, Mark Andrews is described as worthless at this point for fantasy purposes.

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Mason Taylor

PositiveUsage47:28

Mason Taylor scored two touchdowns last week, flashing as one of several mouths to feed in the Jets offense. He is part of the rotating target distribution that has made Jets receivers unpredictable week-to-week.

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Michael Wilson

NegativeInjury0:44

Michael Wilson suffered two broken ribs in Week 8 but played through the injury and scored a touchdown in the fourth quarter. The Cardinals won the game regardless, but Wilson's rib injury status going forward is uncertain.

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NegativeInjury4:36

Michael Wilson suffered two rib injuries in Week 8 but the source believes rib injuries are manageable through pain tolerance, flak jackets, and medical support, suggesting Wilson can mostly play through the injury despite the discomfort.

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NegativeInjury6:04

Michael Wilson's availability going forward depends on pain tolerance; the source notes he must decide whether he can play through injury like Mike Evans did or needs a week or two off before attempting to return.

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NegativeRole27:00

Michael Wilson had eight receptions on 15 targets for 111 yards and a touchdown after three down games in a row. If he's healthy, he remains a key part of the Cardinals offense. However, his health status is uncertain moving forward.

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Omar Cooper Jr.

PositiveUsage46:36

Omar Cooper Jr. played 50 snaps in Week 8 but did not see a single target, raising concerns about his role in the Jets' passing game. The source notes this is game-to-game volatility with Gino Smith's targeting preferences; last week Garrett Wilson got targets while Cooper got none, and the week before it was all Cooper and no A.D. Mitchell, suggesting the Jets' wide receiver targets are unpredictable.

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PositiveUsage47:27

Cooper has had awesome games two weeks in a row and remains a preferred target in the Jets offense despite the volatility. The source still really likes Cooper, though acknowledges the Jets receiver situation is unpredictable week-to-week.

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Parker Washington

NegativeBust50:00

Washington has been a major disappointment this season; the source ate a huge L on him after expecting him to catch passes in Jacksonville, but production has been terrible. He was bad this week and has been inconsistent throughout the year, making him an unreliable fantasy asset.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeInjury0:12

Missed a couple of weeks with a hamstring injury, re-injured it on the first play of his return when he looked great, then it nagged him the whole game; he only played 10 snaps and also has a back injury but is playing Sunday night.

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PositiveProjection46:07

The source recommends starting Saquon if he's active, as a default play. However, context matters: if you have a slight lead in your matchup and your opponent lacks high-ceiling players (e.g., only has a defense), consider pivoting to a higher-ceiling option like A.J. Brown or Devante Smith. But if your opponent has studs like Stefon Diggs or Jason Kelce, Saquon is the safer, higher-floor choice.

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Tanner McKee

NegativeRole41:50

The source suggests that a good player can perform with Tanner McKee as quarterback, but notes uncertainty about whether the Ravens will get McKee or a third-string emergency QB; McKee's recent performance is cited as a baseline for what Ravens receivers might expect if he plays.

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Tee Higgins

PositiveProjection35:00

Tee Higgins has been fantastic this year, booming in nearly every game. His only down game was when injured, but he still played his normal snaps. The source has him on many rosters because he falls in drafts due to Jamar Chase being the primary target. Higgins and Chase need each other; Chase is never as good without Higgins.

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Trey Benson

NegativeRole0:10

A third-round pick from a couple of years ago who is now a free agent; the Cardinals could potentially bring him back to address running back depth issues.

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Trey McBride

PositiveUsage5:08

With Arizona losing multiple running backs to injury (Jaylen Warren and Jeremiah Love both banged up) and Michael Wilson dealing with rib injuries, Trey McBride is positioned to see a massive target increase. The source projects approximately 25 targets coming to McBride in the upcoming weeks as the Cardinals offense consolidates around him.

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PositiveProjection27:00

With Michael Wilson potentially missing time and Kendrick Bourne gone, Trey McBride could see triple coverage. However, the source is not too afraid of the Cardinals offense and expects McBride to be fine. If Wilson is healthy, McBride remains a strong play.

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Tyler Allgeier

NegativeRole0:10

With other Cardinals running backs hurting, Tyler Allgeier's season is effectively over; the source just dropped him in their big league due to the frustration of the situation.

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Tyler Huntley

NegativeInjury0:37

Tyler Huntley is getting an MRI after going down in Week 8. With Lamar Jackson on IR and Huntley injured, the Ravens are forced to start Joe Flacco, a significant downgrade at the quarterback position.

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Zay Flowers

NegativeProjection0:40

Zay Flowers underperformed in Week 8, contributing to a league-leading team's fantasy collapse. Matt Modai had the best record and most points for in his league but saw his season 'flipped on its head' after Zay Flowers and Kenneth Walker both disappointed.

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NegativeProjection3:06

With Lamar Jackson out, Zay Flowers' fantasy value takes a significant hit. The source projects Flowers downgrading from a borderline RB1/2 to a borderline RB2/3, noting that while he's not unstartable, the quarterback downgrade in Baltimore limits his ceiling.

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NegativeProjection22:00

With Lamar Jackson out for at least four games and Tyler Huntley injured with turf toe, Zay Flowers faces significant downside. The source recommends moving him down in rankings. In a 10-man league, cutting him is not the craziest move if Huntley misses six weeks and Lamar is out for the season, though the source doesn't recommend it outright.

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Zay Jones

NegativeRole41:31

The source assigns a panic meter of 6.5 to 7 for Zay Jones (rest of season) and a 10 for Thursday night football specifically, citing dual Ravens quarterback injuries and uncertainty about which backup QB will play; the concern is not about Jones himself but about quarterback quality and whether a third-string emergency QB can perform effectively with limited preparation time.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. All right, welcome everybody to the Fantasy Pros Podcast.
0:04We are here recapping everything that happened week eight today.
0:07I am your host Matt Modai. I'm currently joined by Scott Bogman.
0:11Hopefully we will get the doc in here again.
0:13But Scott, you got your Steelers got to win.
0:16How'd your fantasy week go? Everything go well? Oh, no, not great.
0:19Had a couple donuts in my lineup from some guys.
0:22I had in one of my 16-man leagues, Baker was my quarterback.
0:25Ouch. Ouch. Yeah, yeah. We got to get the Army head coach in here to start running plays for this triple option.
0:31My God. But yeah, weird day. Lots of injuries.
0:34Yeah. Jaguars had some hideous uniforms on. Steelers beat down the Browns.
0:37I mean, it was a fun one for sure.
0:40Yeah, it was a fun Sunday. Yeah, I'm in a league where I have the best record most points for and I have Zay Flowers and Kenneth Walker.
0:48We were just talking offline about a buddy of mine in a different league, but I was feeling good about that league.
0:54And then next thing you know your season's flipped on its head.
0:57But yeah, hopefully we can get the doc in here to talk injuries or else me and you are putting our doctor
1:03hat on and we're going to try and diagnose these things.
1:06But yeah, so we'll talk injuries. We'll talk five storylines.
1:09We'll go through panic meter where we and you and you list a player or the comments list a player and then
1:15we give our panic on them and then we'll do some rapid fire questions at the end.
1:20But before we get the doc in here, I might as well go through the big injuries that we have here.
1:26Obviously, the biggest thing that we have the quarterbacks for the Ravens on the graphic here.
1:30You see Lamar Jackson thumb injury. I he's the coach came out said he's going to have surgery and be placed on IR.
1:37So we'll see what that timeline looks like if when we get the doc in here and then Snoop went down with turtle as well.
1:44And then we had Michael Wilson with a rib injury.
1:46He came out after the game and said he had two broken ribs, but got it through a sick touchdown in the fourth quarter.
1:53That should have won in the game. They won anyways doesn't matter.
1:57And then we have James Cook who returned got hurt returned and then got hurt again and then returned again.
2:02So we should be fine, but we'll see what we have there.
2:05And then a DJ Moore with a knee injury and Jeremiah love again with an ankle tough stuff there.
2:11We'll start with the Ravens because that's I mean the quarterbacks.
2:14I mean a quarterback too. You think like with that right behind Lamar Jackson right behind Josh Allen terms of quarterback to
2:20what do we do with the Ravens? I mean what's going on?
2:23Yeah, everybody asked to take a big downgrade right now.
2:26And you know, you kind of noticed that when these guys went out this game kind of got out of reach and
2:32then we saw more Justice Hill than Derrick Henry in terms of snaps.
2:36Right. So I think everybody takes a bit of a downgrade specifically because if we are down to Joe Feano who is
2:42also banged up, we didn't get a diagnosis, but they asked him at the podium and he said, yeah, I'm not 100 percent right now.
2:49And the next game is on Thursday. Look, Joe Feano was pretty good in college, right?
2:54I think this last season at UConn, 28 touchdowns, one interception.
2:57So very careful with the ball, you know, and he'll get not a full week, but three to four days of practice with the number ones.
3:04You would think here with Huntley being down and getting an MRI tomorrow.
3:07Lamar just on IR and maybe done for the season.
3:10I mean, his thumb looked gross. Yeah, not real good.
3:13He's going to be he's definitely not going to do the Kyler.
3:16No, no call of duty for him. So his thumb is shot.
3:20So, yeah, I just think everyone in Baltimore is probably going to have to take a downgrade, but it doesn't murder everybody.
3:26You know what I mean? Like it's not like Zay Flowers is unstartable at this point, but it might just be like
3:32Derrick Henry and say those are the only two that you can even trust.
3:36I would say Zay goes from a borderline RB one, two to a borderline RB two, three.
3:41And, you know, Derrick Henry is just going to see fewer touchdown opportunities with a quarterback that is going to be harder
3:47to drive into the red zone with. Yeah, it's been, you know, heading into this game.
3:51It was a tough last two weeks with Derrick Henry, but it was kind of like, all right, let's get Lamar back and then let's see what happens.
3:59And then we never really got Lamar out. I mean, we never really got Lamar back.
4:04We got to play one play. That's one play.
4:06Yeah. Yeah. He's a good sleeper. You love rookies in the second half, but if it's, even if it's, even if it's
4:12Snoop, I still wouldn't necessarily feel great about that.
4:15And then if it's, yeah, if it's your boy from, from Yukon, I definitely don't feel great about that.
4:20Um, hope, yeah, hopefully we can, we can get the doc on here just to ask about like what the prognosis is
4:26for, for Snoop with, with the turf toe. But the next one that we had was, was Michael Wilson.
4:32Now he had been kind of dealing with the rib injury heading into the game.
4:36He had been down the last couple of weeks, uh, which kind of funny last year with no Marv, Michael Wilson, that's when he ascended.
4:43It's when he blew up this year after the Marv trade, it wasn't great, but he had a great game came out
4:49after the game, said he had two rib injuries.
4:51I think what, and you can, you can feel free to disagree with me, but I think what we know about rib
4:58injuries is that it's a pain tolerance thing, but you can kind of wear flack jacket.
5:02You can get shot up and you can mostly play through it.
5:05Yeah. I mean, born got hurt too though. Right.
5:08Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is going to be like 25 targets to Trey McBride, uh, coming weeks here.
5:13And they, they lost two running backs to band night got hurt.
5:17Jeremiah love banged up as well. So yeah, man, this Cardinals offense took a massive hit.
5:21They did win after changing quarterbacks to their Minshew, but you do have to, uh, wonder, okay.
5:26So are we just straight going to Gardner Minshew?
5:28He is the backup. He's been the backup all year, or are we going to give Carson Beck a chance, right?
5:34Because this upcoming class is going to have a decent amount of quarterback.
5:38So if you want to draft your quarterback for the future, if you're picking very high, you probably need to see what you just took in Carson.
5:45Beck. So I don't think it'll be immediate. I think it'll be Gardner Minshew for the next week or two, at least.
5:52And if he doesn't keep winning, I don't know if they would go back to preset or if they would just say,
5:58all right, Beck, let's see what you got for the last five weeks of the season, six weeks of the season.
6:04So, but preset looked awful. I don't know if this is going to be a permanent move.
6:08I would assume it would be with Gardner Minshew taking over and then leading them to win the game in overtime on the road against the Cowboys.
6:16That was a really nice win there. But, um, yeah, that was, uh, we'll, we'll see what's going to happen with it, but you're right.
6:23Michael Wilson is all going to be pain tolerance.
6:25Can he do the blackjack like Mike Evans did, or does he need a week or two off before he can even try that?
6:32Yeah. Yeah. And we have, we'll talk about the Cardinals a little bit later.
6:36So I don't want to go too deep into the fantasy implications of stuff, but yeah, I think, I mean, Michael Wilson's playing, he's in your lineup.
6:43Uh, the next one that we have here is, is James cook.
6:47Now I mentioned, uh, when I brought up the recap or brought up the, the, the graphic, he had like crazy, awkward tackle.
6:53It was like one of the best examples of NFL players are, are not like the rest of us.
6:59Cause if I, I mean, I stubbed my toe and I'm out for, for three weeks, James cook got like, it was
7:05a crazy hit, but he came back in. Then he got hurt again, limped off.
7:09Then he came back in again, correct me if I'm wrong.
7:12I'm going to go ahead and guess that he's fine.
7:15The video of the second injury looked nothing like nothing crazy.
7:18Not that I'm a doctor. I'm not going to even pretend, but the fact that they put him back in, in a
7:24game that was pretty much out of reach makes it feel like, okay, it was, he got a little banked up and he's fine.
7:31Yeah. That's kind of what I'm assuming at this point, because you're right.
7:34Like that, that neck thing where he was evaluated for a concussion, he fell awkwardly on his neck and then an alignment fell on top of him.
7:42Yeah. And they were all waving for, uh, you know, the doctors to come over.
7:46He pops right back up and leaves. And then the other thing, uh, I believe was a, a, something with his leg.
7:52Yeah. So, you know, definitely nicked up, but he was in the game.
7:56So I'm going to assume he's okay until we hear otherwise.
7:59Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And if the game was close, maybe you could say, all right, that he was like, I'm going to gut it out.
8:06Um, and then the next one that we have here is DJ Moore.
8:10The poor guy just can't seem to stay healthy.
8:12I mean, he was dealing with that shoulder injury, got hurt.
8:15He missed a week. It came back. He re re injured, re injured it, missed two weeks by week, came back and out the knee injury.
8:22Um, I don't know. I didn't, I haven't seen anything on him.
8:26I don't know if, if, if you were able to see anything on DJ.
8:30I actually did. I heard the doc talking about this on his Instagram and, uh, he was saying that it didn't look too bad.
8:36Right. I luckily it's not the same thing that he's been dealing with, with the shoulder.
8:41It's a knee injury. Um, and what he had said was, look, it just really depends on severity.
8:46And we're not going to know that until probably tomorrow.
8:49So, uh, they, they didn't need him to go back in.
8:52So he didn't go back in. Uh, but this is something that guys have had and played the next week.
8:57So it's all dependent on severity. And we probably won't know that until tomorrow.
9:01Yeah. And he had a great game. I mean, he had an awesome, awesome catch.
9:05And I mean, Keon Coleman almost had a good game.
9:08Josh Allen just missed him on a, on a deep, deep shot there.
9:12So yeah, I mean, DJ Moore was somebody that I, you know, when he was injured, looking the body, I was looking
9:18to trade and I'm guessing that window is probably a little bit closed now that he had a good game.
9:24Um, and then the last one on the graphic here, share my love.
9:27We can kind of loop him in. Cause bam night got hurt as well.
9:31I mean, love, I mean, amazing prospect sprains his ankle in the preseason.
9:35And it looks like it's just going to be a lost rookie season.
9:38Yeah. I mean, this is, um, this is getting to be very frustrating, right?
9:42Like, and it seems like they probably should have just stuck them on IR and sat them out for six to eight
9:48weeks and then let them recover because that's, you know, the, the, it seems like the ankle sprains are now on a spectrum, right?
9:55It's not just like, okay, you're hurt. You're out three to four weeks.
9:59That's it. Come back. Uh, so this is one where it just, it's really unfortunate.
10:03Uh, I think you're right. But with all these other backs hurting, I know this Tyler Algier season right now.
10:09And I just dropped him in my big league, just dropped him.
10:12So, uh, very, very frustrating, but yeah, I think it's, uh, it's wheels up for Tyler Algier right now.
10:17Yeah. And whatever the quarterback situation is, I know there's so much unknown there.
10:21There's so much, and a Trey Benson's a free agent, just like a third round pick just a couple of years ago.
10:27Maybe they can bring it back. Um, and then there's some, some, some other names that we have here that we can
10:33just kind of do some, some quick hitters. So, uh, we mentioned the Cardinals running back.
10:38So Jake Ferguson left with an ankle injury. It just came out right before we hit record that it, um, it was
10:44deemed a low, uh, ankle sprain, not a high ankle sprain.
10:47Um, Kendrick Bourne, that one was a high ankle sprain, a Hunter Henry in the 4 PM game against the dolphins got hurt and he did not return.
10:55Um, I mean, uh, in terms of fantasy relevance, probably only, the only guys on that list you're starting is Hunter Henry.
11:01But my question is I've, I liked Eli Raritan.
11:04I mean, it used to be, they, they never did anything, but that's kind of changed the last couple of years.
11:09He's flashed if Henry's out. And I mean, we need to talk about like Trig on Henderson and AJ Brown, there's a ton of stuff with the Patriots.
11:17But if, if Hunter Henry's out, is Eli Raritan in your lineups?
11:21I, I, in my lineup, I don't know, but he's definitely an option, right?
11:25You're in a tight end premium. I have a league where we start two tight ends.
11:29Uh, you're in a deep league. He's definitely an option because he can score a touchdown, right?
11:34That, that is the whole reason you would put him in kind of the same reason why we're starting Hunter Henry, to
11:40be honest, not like he's racking up a hundred yard game.
11:43So, uh, yeah, I, he could definitely, he's on the radar.
11:46That's for sure. Yeah. And if, you know, at tight end, if you don't have one of the big names, you're kind
11:52of streaming the matchups and he's definitely somebody that in a good matchup, you can stream.
11:57Um, and then for Sunday night football tonight, we have Saquon Barkley.
12:00Um, I mean, just a weird situation going on with him.
12:03Uh, he, he missed a couple of weeks at the hamstring injury, re-injured it on the first play when he looked where he looked great.
12:10And then he was nagging at the whole game.
12:13I think he only played 10 snaps and then he had a back injury, but he's playing tonight.
12:18The Eagles are a mess. Um, I mean, it's Sunday night, so I'm guessing people already decided if they were going to start him or not.
12:25I decided not to in the league. Um, but you know, if you're, if you're facing that decision between like Roshon Johnson
12:31or something or Saquon Barkley, obviously you're starting Barkley there, but just curious, like from a fantasy perspective, what you think about Barkley?
12:37I mean, I'm very frustrated with it, right? Like, um, I don't like this half in half out stuff, like either just
12:44rule them out and place it, but they're so banged up at the, the running back.
12:48I know. And so he's, he's playing through it.
12:51And he said after the game, my hamstring was actually okay.
12:54It was my back that was bothering me, but I'm going to play through it.
12:58Don't know how much I believe that. Right. And I feel like some of those, we need, we need the, uh, we need the player injury index.
13:05Like we have the coach speak index, right? Yeah.
13:08Um, uh, I, he's going to be on a pitch count.
13:11It's going to be frustrating. So I think you probably made the right decision based, you know, depending on who you put in over him.
13:18Yeah. And I mean, like, um, Mitchell, you know, Elijah Mitchell, I'm assuming you're not messing with him even if sick, like if sick.
13:25Yeah. Nah, no. Like I like Will Shipley, you know, but he got hurt too.
13:29So I know Shipley was kind of my guy and tank was in there as well.
13:33Like they had viable guys, but these guys are all gone right now.
13:37So yeah, it's, uh, it's a tough scene to be an RB in Philly right now.
13:41I know tank, um, Damian Pierce even was, was looking good.
13:45And then players that missed this week, you know, we'll, we'll have to see, um, what, if the, we can get some,
13:51some thoughts on the doc, but come a nun guy.
13:54I, you know, I thought he was going to play, you know, he got hurt.
13:58You kind of, it seems like turf turf toes about a three week injury, but they keep listing turf slash thumbs.
14:04I wonder if the thumb is, is bothering him more.
14:06Uh, Jordan Tyson, who, um, looked like who obviously has missed the entire season, looking like he might return, uh, AJ Brown
14:13and a Trayvon Henderson with the Patriots and then Bruce Hall.
14:16Um, I, yeah. Anything you have on those guys or just, I think all those guys are pretty close to playing this week.
14:22So I would expect them to go next week.
14:25Now I'll start AJ Brown. I'll start Brie saw.
14:27I don't like what they're doing with the running back scenario, new England.
14:31So until we see Tray Henderson get in there and go off, I'm, I'm just, unless I'm absolutely desperate and to have
14:37injuries and by weeks and all that stuff, and only two teams on a bi-week next week, you should be better in
14:43a better position or have better options out there.
14:45I don't want to roll Henderson and I love him and I loved him coming in, but I might have to take the L on that one.
14:53He's been banged up and they do not know how to use him.
14:57And you know, he came out of Ohio state like praise for his past blocking and he's been terrible as a, as
15:03like a blitz pickup pass blocker and stuff. And he's, he's just not going to play for, for Rabel and not many
15:09teams are going to want to play. Um, the interesting name, uh, is Jordan Tyson because I mean, he's dealt with the hamstring injuries throughout his entire career.
15:17I mean, he looked incredible in training camp and every, all the talk out of new wing or out of new Orleans
15:23was how good he looked and then he re-injured it.
15:26He missed a couple months. I'm assuming you're probably not starting him in his first game back, but I mean, I'm, I'm intrigued.
15:32Yeah, you should be. He's a supremely talented, right?
15:35Yeah. But he is Mr. Glass. This dude has been injured in college for the last two seasons, his initial NFL season.
15:41He gets hurt right before the season and he came in and didn't do a lot of the stuff in the combine
15:47with the hamstring injury and then got almost all the way through it.
15:51And then another hamstring injury. So, uh, very intriguing prospect.
15:53It could be very, very high end, but whoo, you are rolling the dice starting Jordan Tyson.
15:58Like, let's see him first. Yeah, for sure. And I mean, Bailey's look good.
16:02Uh, Jawan Johnson's kind of, kind of, um, he's fallen off after a hot start.
16:06So there's a shock has looked terrible too recently.
16:09Like ever since that, the broken hand thing, he's looked bad.
16:12So, uh, yeah, that's, you know, this can work out really well.
16:15If you have a spot on your bench, go ahead and grab him and stash him.
16:20But, uh, starting him as a different story. Yeah, for sure.
16:23Yeah. He's been sitting in my IR and I'm going to, I'm going to see how he does for a week before
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17:13So, all right, let's talk storylines. Um, like you mentioned that not a big bi-week, which is good.
17:18Only two teams on by Pittsburgh and Tennessee, not a ton of fantasy relevance there.
17:22Aside from maybe Tony Pollard just being the best running back in the NFL.
17:26Um, but we can talk, um, feeling Warren wrong, but I understand.
17:29And Rico Dowdle. I mean, all the running backs.
17:32Um, but the first one that I wanted to talk about, and again, these aren't necessarily in order of importance, but what's
17:38going on with the running backs in, in, uh, Las Vegas.
17:41Cause I, you talked about, um, dropping, uh, I think it was Algier right before I dropped Mike Washington jr.
17:47Like right before, because I wasn't going to start him and I forget what I think I picked up, uh, Seth McGowan
17:53or somebody like just to any trade anyways. But so Ashton Jinty, two carries four targets.
17:57Now he did a lot, especially, I mean, it was one big target within Mike Washington jr.
18:0225, pretty inefficient, but still 25 carries. Ashton Jinty said that it was communicated to him before the game that he would get fewer carries.
18:09That was per Ryan McFadden, the snap count 38 out of 63 for Washington.
18:13Jinty had 25 out of 63. It seems like this is punishment for what he said about the jets, but any, what are your takeaways here?
18:20Yeah. I mean, it is the dreaded split, right?
18:23Which we hate in fantasy. And that's kind of where I think we're going to carries for Jinty.
18:28I know they've been trying to baby him a little bit.
18:31Maybe this is one of those games where like, we're just going to see what we have more with Mike Washington and
18:37give him more carries and let Jinty eat it up.
18:40So it was 38 snaps for Washington to 25 for Jinty.
18:43But obviously I would still say that Jinty is more valuable specifically in PPR leagues, right?
18:47And, you know, before this game, I don't know.
18:50I don't know what it looked like yet. I don't have numbers for it yet.
18:54But in terms of carries inside the five, it was over 80% for Jinty still.
18:58So I think he's more likely to score a touchdown.
19:01He's more likely to catch passes. So specifically in a PPR league, he is more valuable in a standard.
19:06They're probably pretty even at this point. I would still lean towards Jinty a little bit.
19:11I don't think that this is going to repeat.
19:13I don't think it's going to be 25 to two.
19:16Anyway, I do think it'll probably be like, you know, 17 to 14.
19:20And then Jinty catches more passes, something like that moving forward.
19:23I don't think this is permanent, but apparently they're saying it was communicated to him that he'll get fewer carries.
19:29I don't know if that's for a week or for moving forward, though.
19:32So I assume that is going to continue in this type of split, which is gross.
19:37It just moves both of their, you know, Washington moves way up.
19:40But Jinty moves from a, you know, RB1 to maybe an RB2, RB3 borderline guy now.
19:44Yeah. And it's, I mean, Jinty, you can forgive last year being inefficient because that team was just a mess.
19:50But I mean, this Raiders team is not nearly as bad.
19:53Their offense hasn't been bad and he has been so inefficient on the ground.
19:57You wonder if this was always going to happen.
20:00Like he's been fantastic through the air. So his fantasy finishes, he hasn't killed you.
20:04He's not been in a Mario and Hampton, obviously, or anything like that because he's been so valuable through the air.
20:10But yeah, I mean, if he's getting, he's getting two carries.
20:13That's, I mean, you can't have that. It's worthless.
20:15Yeah. Yeah. He was in near the goal line.
20:18I saw him in on some of those sets.
20:20I don't know. No, I see the snap count, but I don't see the goal line, the third down, all that stuff.
20:26Right. All that information available quite yet, but it's, it's 100% concerning.
20:30So I will be, if we look in, it was Washington way more in at the goal line than it was Jinty.
20:36Then I'll be more concerned, but I do think it was still Jinty when they got down there.
20:41Yeah, I believe, I believe you're right. I had red zone on, so I wasn't dialed into that game specifically, but I believe you're right.
20:48I remember seeing him on the field. I mean, so do you think that it's possible that whoever has Ashton Jinty is
20:54going to be panicking and that he's a trade for target?
20:57Are you kind of just washing your hands clean and saying, I don't want any part of this?
21:02I, I, you know, if someone is really panicking and wants to sell him dirt cheap, then yes, I would go after him.
21:09I just don't, he was such a high draft pick.
21:11I don't think his value is going to allow someone to trade him that cheap.
21:16And I don't think you're going to want to pay up what the current cost is for Jinty.
21:21So like I said, if someone is panicking, yes, but I doubt there's too many people that will sell him too cheap.
21:27Yeah, you're probably right. I mean, it's worth an offer.
21:30The only thing here is that let's not forget that, that this Raiders coaching staff came from Seattle where they were taking
21:36Kenneth Walker off the field for Zach Charbonnet. So it wouldn't be that shocking if it ended up being closer to a 50, 50 carry.
21:43But like you said, if, if Jinty is getting a ton of passing work and he's getting the goal line work, he'll,
21:49he'll still be very good for fantasy. He might just not be the Charbonnet.
21:53Yeah, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. How funny is that? So, all right.
21:56The next one, and we did talk a lot about the Ravens in the injury segment, but I do, I did want
22:02to spend more time here because moving forward, we just need to know what to do with the Ravens.
22:07But Lamar Jackson out, uh, not looking good, at least out for four games, probably more than that.
22:12Tyler Huntley injured turf toe. The third string quarterback injured with some sort of a banged up knee injury.
22:18We saw Zay flowers goose. Uh, Henry didn't kill you 11 carries 53 yards and a touchdown.
22:22But what do we know about Derek Henry is that he's much better when the team is winning and when the team
22:28has leads and they can just feed him carries on the third string quarterback.
22:32You know, I don't know if necessarily that's going to be the case.
22:36So you're probably not benching these guys. You're definitely moving them down.
22:39And like you said, is there anybody else worth starting on the team?
22:43There isn't. I mean, I don't know that on a week to week basis there was, there was anyway.
22:48Yeah. At this point, like lane is a deep league play for a touchdown upside.
22:52Right. Uh, Mark Andrews is worthless at this point.
22:55So who cares? Uh, so it was just Zay and Derek Henry anyway.
22:59So like you said, you're probably still going to keep those guys in your lineup.
23:03I completely understand if you want to avoid Zay, if you want to try to trade him, uh, in a 10 man,
23:09uh, you know, I don't think, I don't think there's any scenario where I cut Zay, but I wouldn't think it's the craziest move.
23:16If they say that, Hey, look, Huntley is going to miss six weeks and Lamar's out for the season.
23:21So it's just this, this third string guy, right?
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25:28Yeah, definitely not drop. I'm with you there. I think that's a little too much.
25:32I mean, people are going to see that he goosed and say, well, if this is what's going to happen every time
25:38this quarterback plays, he's not worth it. But that's, I mean, when two quarterbacks get hurt, you kind of just have to throw that game away.
25:45Not every quarterback is Brock Purdy and could come in as a third string quarterback and be good.
25:50We saw the commanders. He honestly wasn't bad. I call him Zach Galifianakis.
25:54I forget his actual name, but he actually wasn't bad.
25:57So maybe we should be giving Fiano a little bit more heat here.
26:01But the question I have is, is anything like, so just as Hill, they're going to be losing more.
26:06They're going to be passing more. And it's, it's an easy check down for young rookie quarterback.
26:11Does he become, you know, flex worthy in your eyes?
26:13Flex worthy? Probably not. Just because with a quarterback this young, specifically this week, like how much, how much are you going to even be on the field?
26:21It might be a lot of three and outs.
26:24Jacksonville is pretty hot right now. So that's going to be, it's, that's difficult.
26:28I mean, in a deeper league, sure. Right. I take him over some Ajay P Ryan at this point, but not too many other guys.
26:35Cool. All right. That makes sense. Here we can move on to the next team with a bunch of injuries and a
26:41quarterback that started that didn't finish the game. But so Jacoby percent benched and a ton of situation, like just a ton
26:47of stuff going on with the Cardinals. We lost two running backs.
26:50Tell her a year just blew up 147 yards on 11 carries and a touchdown five receptions for 44 yards and a touchdown through the air.
26:58Just amazing game. And then Michael Wilson, after having three down games in a row, eight receptions on 15 targets, 111 yards touchdown team McBride.
27:05You know, he ho-hum seven receptions, eight targets, 75 yards and a touchdown.
27:08A lot of this was with, um, not Jacoby Brissett, but with, um, Gardner Minshew.
27:12So, I mean, what the heck are we doing here?
27:15I don't even know where to start. I mean, look, if Wilson's going to be okay, we know Trey McBride's going to be fine.
27:22It's just figuring out, like, I don't know. I kind of feel like in terms of fantasy, Gardner Minshew and Jacoby Brissett are the Spider-Man meme.
27:29You know what I mean? Fair. Like pointing at each other.
27:32They're kind of the same guy. I don't expect a huge drop off with Minshew.
27:36And in fact, he looked better this week when he took over, obviously.
27:40So I'm not too afraid of this offense. Now Kendrick Bourne being gone.
27:44And then if, uh, Michael Wilson's going to miss some time, we might get triple coverage on Trey McBride because who the hell else did they have?
27:51They just put Brooks on IR last week too and traded Marvin.
27:55So they're not like Simi Fayoko or somebody like, I don't even know who it is on the roster.
28:00It would be a Fayoko. I think Reggie Virgil got hurt as well.
28:03And then Devin Duvernay. So on the practice squad, they have my guy, Trey Wallace, a third from Ole Miss, uh, Shedrick
28:10Jackson and they did sign Zay Jones back. So, uh, they have some guys on there, but also what's going on with the, the running backs here.
28:17So I think Tyler O'Gear, it's wheels up for him.
28:20Currently it's wheels up for Trey McBride. I, I think it's going to be Minshew, but like we kind of mentioned before,
28:26what are we doing with Carson Beck? Right? Yeah.
28:29Is Carson Beck going to get a look? Is it just straight to Gardner Minshew?
28:33Is it, let's see how many games Minshew wins in a month and then go to Carson Beck.
28:38Uh, and then, and then we really don't know what we have when Carson Beck comes in.
28:43But for now I'm okay with these guys as long as they're healthy.
28:46It's just who is healthy. Yeah. The health is obviously a big thing.
28:50Yeah. I mean, you're right. That's Kobe were said in Gardner Minshew are probably similar to your quarterbacks.
28:55The, I just don't like change. Like we knew with Jacoby Brissette, he was going to, he was going to hyper target these guys.
29:02I don't like it when things are different, you know, give me, give me status quo.
29:06Give me, I don't care if in the first half they don't do anything.
29:10Cause you know, they're going to get those garbage time points.
29:13And they didn't let Jacoby Brissette do that this week.
29:16They, they benched him and he was bad. So I'm not saying that they made a mistake.
29:21Gardner Minshew won them the game, but. I mean, they might go to Brissette, you know, it would not be that shocking
29:27if they go right back to him and, you know, just say, Hey, look, we just paid this guy.
29:32It was a bad game. Uh, so we went to Brissette and we won, but, uh, or we went to Minshew and
29:38we won, but, uh, I'm so used to saying we went to Brissette.
29:42I know. But, uh, but we're going back to our guy.
29:45I just don't think that happens. I think once you bench him, uh, you know, it's probably Minshew season right now.
29:51And I know a lot of people are happy about it because he's helped people before.
29:55Yeah. And they want, like they came back and they want, so it's like, yeah, if he, if he looked bad, then, then maybe not.
30:02But yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of weight.
30:05We'll have to see. So the next one, um, I want to talk about the bangles of like every week.
30:11It's the same story. Jamar chase and Jamar chase hasn't had an amazing year.
30:15He's been fine, but he hasn't had like the Jamar chase wide receiver one type year.
30:19Him and T Higgins absolutely blew up roughly disappointing game from chase Brown.
30:23Again, he didn't kill you, but he went lower than I know he's got it.
30:27I mean, he had one called back, of course.
30:29Um, but he, like I said, he didn't, he didn't kill you.
30:33He went lower than his projection, but he had a bunch of targets, a bunch of receptions and he had a rock
30:39like just under a hundred total yards. But, but still, I mean, I keep saying, I keep coming on here saying it's going to come for chase Brown.
30:47It's going to come for chase Brown. And it, and it hasn't yet.
30:50Is this, you think this is just what it's going to be the rest of the season for him?
30:56Um, no, I like, I, I think that he had, he had way more snaps than P Ryan and way more touches this week.
31:02Right. Uh, 51 snaps to 26 on a 74 snaps.
31:0533. He ran chase Brown, ran more routes than P Ryan had snaps in this game.
31:10So I hope we get exactly what we saw this week.
31:13It's just chase Brown gets a little more and gets in the end zone moving forward in because this is the bangles I know.
31:19And I'm used to uncomfortable with, right? Yeah. The ones that suck on defense are really good on offense and they have
31:26to go point for point with the Titans. Right.
31:28Like that, this is what we want from these guys.
31:31So I hope we see much more of this.
31:33It looked better for chase Brown. I would buy him low right now.
31:37I still think I would, I know he's been frustrating, uh, but if you can get him cheap, I think I'd go do that.
31:44I agree with you. I just feel like the boy who cried wolf at this point.
31:48Cause I've, I've, this is my fourth time coming on here.
31:51And this is the fourth time I'm telling you to buy low on chase Brown.
31:55It's like, we're going to be week 18 and I'm going to like, but it's expected fantasy points, but in dynasty, you're going to buy him.
32:03You're right. Right. I understand. No, that's actually where I'm not in dynasty, but, um, yeah, I, I agree with you.
32:09It's, it's really easy to be frustrated about what's happening and hard to remove yourself when you have him on your team.
32:15But like you said, he, I mean, you get nine targets, eight receptions, still got 12 carries to, I think what, four from P Ryan.
32:22P Ryan had one reception on one target. Like it wasn't anything close to a 50, 50 split.
32:27You're a hundred percent right. That look, we're halfway through the whole season at this point, not even just the regular season.
32:33Yeah. And we're still saying buy low, buy low because it's been bad.
32:36But this, this type of a game is a very good sign for, for the bangles, right?
32:41Like just bad defense, good offense. Burrow has to throw and Burrow being upright.
32:45It's just a big deal at this point. So I think it is going to be moving forward.
32:50I would bet on it. Yeah. And then with, with Jason T Higgins, the biggest surprise is that, I mean, T Higgins
32:56has been so boomer bus his entire career. He's pretty much just boomed this year.
33:01Their only bus game was when he was, when he was injured and he, I mean, he played the game.
33:06He played basically his normal snaps, but he just wasn't a hundred percent.
33:10Other than that, I mean, he's been, he's been fantastic.
33:13Yeah. He's, I got, I have T Higgins on a lot of spots cause he, he falls in every draft I do.
33:19He falls cause everyone's a wild chases. They're T Higgins.
33:21And getting, they're both ones. They're two number ones on the same team.
33:25Chase is better, but Higgins still really good. Yeah.
33:28And they need, they need each other. Like when, when like T Higgins has always been somebody that's missed three to five games a year.
33:35And Jamar chase is never as good without T Higgins.
33:37They need each other. Um, and then the last one, so you know, this, this fifth and final one, I have written down Justin Jefferson.
33:44I also wanted to talk about like a Blake Corum versus Kyron Williams split.
33:48Uh, and then Kyron Williams got like 10 carries to, to salt that game away.
33:52So the, the carries ended up evening out. So we'll stick with Justin Jefferson, but he was somebody that I was scared to draft this year.
34:00I mentioned that on a lot of shows and he was frustrated after the game.
34:04I think, you know, commented, he didn't want to talk to the media.
34:08He had a, I mean, amazing touchdown catch that just reminds you how good he is, but five receptions on 33 yards,
34:14no games this year with a hundred yards. The closest he came was in week one with Carson Wentz where he had
34:2092 and he, I think had two touchdowns. And he's got three games this year with 50 plus yards.
34:25Now he did get injured early in a game and then he missed a week and they had a buy.
34:31So it hasn't been a full season for him, but still we saw this last year.
34:35Like we know how good Justin Jefferson is, but we also know that if your quarterback isn't good, it doesn't matter how good the receiver is.
34:42So what are we doing with Justin Jefferson? Yeah, I think this is this one.
34:47I can't sit here and tell you like, Oh, I'm still super flowering on him.
34:51Like, uh, chase Brown or, or, uh, others. It's so frustrating because Kyler stinks and they don't have another option.
34:56Carson Wentz is not any better than Kyler. Uh, this is the guy that they decided to go with.
35:02It might've been better if they stuck with McCarthy.
35:04I know, I know. It's just so frustrating. And, um, I mean, I think we just need to start viewing him as a wide receiver too.
35:12At this point, not a wide receiver one, he's still going to have a ton of targets, but him and Kyler are not on the same page.
35:19This is what, this is what I thought was wrong with Marvin, right?
35:23Was Kyler. And then Kyler leaves and Marvin still sucks.
35:26So I was like, okay, well maybe that's good for Kyler.
35:29It's not, they, they were both not good. Yeah.
35:31So, uh, I think, I think the Vikings are going to be on the hunt for a quarterback again next year.
35:37You kind of hope that this would turn out like, okay, well Sam Donald and we give him an extension and he
35:43looks good, but he, it's just, uh, he doesn't fit and they're not adjusting.
35:47They should go get a running back. They should go get a running back and run the ball way more.
35:53I just don't know if they're going to end up doing it.
35:56Yeah. I, if you can, I, I'm out on Justin Jefferson.
35:59I had him last year and I ended up trading him for a pretty good price.
36:04Once McCarthy came back, cause Justin Jefferson was actually pretty good with Wentz.
36:07Like I agree with you that if your goal is to win a game, if you're the Vikings, that's what you're trying to do.
36:14Then they're probably equal. But I know from a fantasy perspective, Carson Wentz will provide more fantasy value than Kyler Murray for the ancillary weapons.
36:21He was good with Justin Jefferson last year. He was good in week one week two.
36:25Wentz started and played that whole game, but that was the monsoon against the bear.
36:30So nobody really performed well from a fantasy perspective, but once I view is like James Winston, where he's going to throw
36:36one to three interceptions, he's going to have some, some crazy plays, but I think you will get fantasy relevance.
36:41That's why I was kind of happy that the Vikings lost because you know, they're going to go 18 and Oh, with
36:47the, with the worst team, like worst 18 and a team in 17, no team in NFL history.
36:52So at least they lost. Maybe they go to Wentz if they keep losing games.
36:57And that's, I think what you want. If you have Justin Jefferson, I would much rather have Carson Wentz as the quarterback for Justin Jefferson than Kyler Murray.
37:04If you're okay at wide receiver, would you flip Jefferson for chase Brown?
37:08Oh, I would do that in a, I would do that in a heartbeat.
37:12I, I, yeah, I, I'm in a league with, with chase Brown and the manager who has Justin Jefferson's good at receiver and I I'm, I'm good.
37:20No, thank you. I'd much, I'd much rather have chase Brown, which is like, I feel like like Tony Pollard.
37:25I mean, yeah, I, I feel like rest of season rankings.
37:28I'm right there with you. I, I, yeah, you're, you're probably right because I mean, he was still a borderline first round pick, right?
37:35He's picked at the end. So, but like here, here's one more.
37:38Would you rather have Cam Scadaboo or would you rather have Justin Jefferson for the rest of the year?
37:44At that point, I'd probably rather have Justin Jefferson because I think they're going to trade.
37:48I think they're going to trade for Jonathan or yeah, Jonathan Taylor.
37:51That's my prediction is that the giants are going to trade for him.
37:55Ooh. Okay. They're going to, they're going to see that in the first year with John Harbaugh, they can win the horrible NFC East.
38:02But anyways, uh, we got to move on. I, we, we got some questions and panic meter and stuff to get to,
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38:41And what I want to do here for those of you watching and listening, a, we love you.
38:46Thank you for watching and listening. Uh, put in the comment, comment, somebody that you want us to answer, whether we are panicking on them or not.
38:53One means we're not panicking at all. 10 means that we are in a full blown panic mode.
38:58So get all of those in the chat. Uh, while we, while we're waiting on you guys, I wrote some down here
39:04just to kind of get me and you started Scott.
39:07Um, we already talked about him, but Ashton Janty scale of one to 10.
39:11How much are you panicking on him? I think it has to be over a five.
39:15So I'll say six, right? Like if you're going to take away 15 carries from him, basically, I'm pretty panicked about that.
39:22Now I do think I'm trying to be measured and think that, okay, maybe we didn't know this.
39:27We was going to be this lopsided going in and we'll change it moving forward.
39:31But I, I'm, I think that's what's going to happen.
39:34Can I guarantee it? Absolutely not. So I, I think this has to be a six.
39:38Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to go with a five.
39:41I'm definitely not. I'm definitely not, not panicking. I'm definitely not full blown panicking.
39:45So I'm going to go ahead and sit right on that fence and go with a five, because I still think that
39:51you will have fantasy relevance from Ashton Janty. I think the days of him, like, could he be a top five running back?
39:58Yeah. That that's not, that's not going to happen.
40:00But I think it could still be a running back one.
40:03And like, like I said, I think if you, if, if the manager has him and is freaked out, I mean, you,
40:09you tout those two carries you're saying like, look, this guy only got two, like when you're massaging that trade offer, you
40:16talk about how few carries he had and see if you can get him for cheap.
40:20Um, but we can, uh, but we'll, we'll see.
40:23And that's why we play the game. We'll see.
40:25Uh, we just talked about him. Let's get an official panic meter on Justin Jefferson.
40:29Um, that one's gotta be higher. Like a seven.
40:32Like I, I, it just hasn't worked at any point.
40:35Like he's still, I don't know, probably 50, 50 to score in every game.
40:38And I, we'd look real dumb if, you know, he just goes off for the rest of the year.
40:44But, um, uh, it's, it's looked bad. And like I said, we're way more than halfway done with our regular season and
40:50close to halfway done with the whole season here.
40:52So, uh, yeah, I think it's gotta be at like a seven.
40:56I, I'll agree with you on seven. I would even go as high as eight.
41:00Um, and I mean, we saw Larry Fitzgerald have some down years.
41:03We saw, um, uh, the, the, the Texans receiver, um, Hopkins Hopkins.
41:07Yeah. Thank you. Hopkins. We saw him have some bad down seasons with bad quarterback play.
41:11I love Justin Jefferson as a player. I just, it's a Kyler Murray thing for me.
41:16Uh, God is Kyler really as bad as Brock Osweiler.
41:18Do you think it's pretty bad at this point?
41:21It's, I mean, as bad as nine was last year, it seems like it.
41:25Um, yeah, get, get your, uh, your, your, your questions on panic meter.
41:28I have some more that we have in the chat.
41:31We talked about him as well. Zay flowers gave you a nice big goose.
41:35Um, we have dual injuries to the Ravens quarterbacks.
41:38What's your panic meter one to 10 on Zay flowers.
41:41I think this is another seven, right? And it's not, it has nothing to do with Zay.
41:45It's all about what quarterback are you getting? And is this quarterback going to be good enough?
41:50Like, you know, if we get the performance that we've seen from Tanner McKee recently, like I think a good player can
41:56perform with Tanner McKee, but we've also seen Max Prosper in the NFL, right?
42:00And that was Max Prosper was not an NFL level quarterback at any point.
42:04Right. So if that's what we're going to get from Fayano, what we saw today was pretty bad.
42:09But again, he's third string. He's the emergency QB did not expect to play zero reps with the number ones.
42:15So let's see him with a little more time to adjust, know that he's going in, you know, work with the coaching
42:21staff and the receivers really diligently this week. And, uh, I think he's going to be better and definitely better than Bros.
42:27So, uh, I would say six and a half, seven, somewhere in that range.
42:31Yeah. I think for the rest of season, um, I'd probably go five, six, but for Thursday night football, that that's like
42:37a 10, like you can't really get your third street quarterback, um, acclimated that quickly.
42:41So I think if you're, if you're looking at trade form, I, I would wait out until after this week and then,
42:47and then send some offers because, um, if you, and if you have a better option, I would not be super excited
42:53to start him again on Thursday night football, even though the matchup should be pretty good.
42:58It's just, it's such an unknown, but all depends on who you can start in his place, but we can move on.
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44:05And like I mentioned, the last thing we're doing here is a quick Q and a.
44:09Um, so we, we, I, we, I saw that you guys put in some questions as we're going on.
44:15So we have some that will answer, but yeah, any questions that you have that you want Scott and I to answer
44:21and I'll just go through the ones that we have starred.
44:24So, and I think this is a pretty good question for Michael Sullivan.
44:28Um, what are we doing with Jordan Mason? Held him on IR for weeks.
44:32Same disappointed so far, not to mention JT could be traded to Minnesota.
44:35So what are you doing with Jordan Mason? I think I'm in a hold right now.
44:40Cause I've done the same thing. I actually had to start him this week.
44:44Obviously didn't work out very well for me, but I'm in a hold right now to see what they do.
44:49Right. Um, it cause Aaron Jones is fragile. Kyler's not working.
44:52So you've got to think that they will focus more on the run game moving forward.
44:57And I think it's going to be more Jordan Mason, but I really hate what they did this week.
45:02I don't know if you saw it, but DJ Dallas was ahead of Mason.
45:06So I don't, if you're in a short league, dump him, right?
45:09Like if you're in a 10, a 12 with short benches, I'm fine with dumping him.
45:14Uh, but I think in most leagues where I'm in there, 12 with deeper benches.
45:18So there's not a lot on the wire that I'm going to add.
45:22That's going to be better than Jordan Mason or they're 14 or 16.
45:25And there's just nothing out there right now. Uh, I, I think for the most part, I'm going to be in a holding pattern.
45:32Yeah, I agree with you. I'm, I'm holding him.
45:34Uh, it, the, the, the lines, a, the defense is getting better.
45:38Like maybe they're not going to be quite the bad defense that we saw at the beginning of the year.
45:43And they've always had a good run defense. Like ever since they've had Dan Campbell, they're, they're a pass funnel.
45:49They welcome the past. They stopped the run. And this was never a great matchup for Jordan Mason.
45:54So I would give him another week, but yeah, if they trade for Jonathan Taylor, then, then you can drop them.
46:00Then you can, then, then, then he's toast. Um, good question for wise guy with the game starting in just a couple of minutes here, slight lead.
46:07He has lemon and Saquon. I'm guessing, I'm guessing the question here is who do you start?
46:12I'm still going to Saquon. Uh, if he's starting, I'm putting them in my lineup for the most part.
46:17Okay. Knowing that you have a slight lead makes me lean towards lemon, to be honest with you, because no Devante Smith lemon had a good game.
46:25His first good game last, last week, scored a touchdown, six reception, seven targets, good matchup against a not great Washington commanders defense.
46:31So I guess it depends on who your opponent has.
46:34Like if your opponent has digs or they have like, you know, Jason or somebody tomorrow, then you need a higher performance.
46:40Then I would probably go Saquon. If you're projected to win and they only have like a defense or something, not super,
46:46that's going to score a lot of points. I'd probably go lemon.
46:50So I guess it just depends on the matchup.
46:52Um, here's a good question from Tanner, Tanner olive, six, six, five, seven.
46:56What in the world happened to Omar Cooper jr?
46:58I don't have an answer for this because he played 50 snaps in this game.
47:03Didn't see a target. Uh, so I'm guessing this is going to be just like Gino from game to game and who he likes to target.
47:10Uh, but Garrett Wilson did get much last week and it was all Omar Cooper and no ad nice.
47:15So, um, yeah, I mean, this is, this might be playing whack-a-mole with the, uh, jets wide receivers.
47:20Now they all should get targets every week, but it's been heavy to one guy over the last three weeks.
47:26So, uh, yeah, I, I just don't like the situation as a whole.
47:29So I still really like Omar Cooper, but this was a very weird instance specifically with so many points scored.
47:35This feels like the Colson Loveland game from week one.
47:38This makes no sense. Yeah. But I, you know what I, I really liked Garrett Wilson heading into, I know this is
47:44not a question about him, but I'll get there.
47:47I really liked Garrett Wilson heading into the year, but cause I thought that he was going to get all the targets like he always did.
47:54And now you, you, you look and there's like seven mouths to feed in this jets offense.
47:59Somehow you're like, how, how the heck did we get here?
48:02Didn't even play. Exactly. Brees didn't play, but like Sadiq has flashed Mason Taylor at two touchdowns last week.
48:07Omar Cooper had an awesome games two weeks in a row.
48:10And then he goosed Adonai Mitchell came back from a finger injury, did nothing.
48:14And then he blew up and Garrett Milcher or Garrett Wilson.
48:17Hasn't had a good game in like a month.
48:20Like his last three games have not been good.
48:22So what in the world happened to him is other mouths got fed.
48:26And I think, like you said, it's good. I think it's going to be frustrating owning any of these guys, any given
48:32week, any one of them can have a good game, but any given three weeks, they could have three bad games in a row.
48:39So it's not an offense that we love. They play super slow.
48:42Yes. They scored a bunch of points today, but they play the Raiders.
48:45They played the Raiders. So, I mean, I don't, I think you just got to hold them, but I think you thought
48:52you struck gold the last two weeks and now you're kind of like, okay, maybe not.
48:56Yeah, I agree. All right. From hammy to hamster.
48:59Should I drop Bryce young from Malik Willis? I'm okay with that.
49:02Like, I think Bryce has played pretty bad the last two weeks.
49:05This game was on Thursday though. Yeah, I'm, I'm okay with that.
49:09Willis has a lot of rushing upside. So it's kind of a coin flip.
49:13It's kind of a, by who the opponent, I would say for the most part, but I'm fine with that move.
49:18I would agree with you. I, you know, the, my biggest fear with Bryce young is their offensive line.
49:24Their best offensive lineman got hurt. And it looks like we're seeing old Bryce young.
49:28And the fact like he's not somebody that can handle pressure every second.
49:32So if this is what's, we're going to, this is what we're going to see.
49:36I'm also okay with that. Um, from mmgaming136. I'm guessing this is the rest of season question, which I, I, I like it.
49:42Bucky or Parker Washington? It's Bucky for me. And I, you know, obviously I I'm eating a huge L on Parker Washington this year.
49:49Cause I was like, well, who's going to catch the ball in Jacksonville?
49:53Parker Washington. Yeah. It turns out. It's just part of Jacksonville.
49:56Right. Yeah. So Parker, but you know, terrible this week.
49:58Uh, I don't, was it the week before two weeks ago where he was bad?
50:03Obviously I don't roster him anywhere. So I haven't been paying attention, but who are we guaranteed touches with Bucky every single
50:09week, specifically with a Baker playing the way he did today.
50:12Uh, that was in a monsoon and a, you know, they're loading up animals two by two, but, uh, that, that was a crazy game that they won.
50:20Not since 1974 to team one without the pass, by the way.
50:23Uh, so just a crazy occurrence to happen, but Bucky is being fed the rock right now.
50:28You're just guaranteed so many touches with him and he makes explosive plays still.
50:32So if he's going to get 20 carries, one of those is going to be huge.
50:36It might go to the house. So, uh, for me right now, it's Bucky.
50:40All right. Last question that I have for you.
50:43And this isn't, this is from me now from the audience, but rest of season, Bucky or Ashton Janty Bucky.
50:48See, I, I worry that, I mean, he's been really good for like four.
50:52Three out of the last four weeks, but monsoon this week, last week, the crazy Panthers game where next, like you blink
50:58and their Panthers are down 33 to eight. And then the Cowboys three, those were like 27 touch games.
51:04I'm not expecting that for the rest of the year, 18 to 20.
51:07That's still way too many for me to, to go to somebody else, specifically somebody who just got there, their carries cut to two, right?
51:14Like, and he had fewer snaps than Mike Washington.
51:17So for me, it's gotta be Bucky. Yeah, that's fair.
51:19And I think that you could probably get that maybe not after this week, but you might be able to get that trade done.
51:26If you, if you offered, um, if you had Janty and you offered him for Bucky, but anyways, that's all we got.
51:32You guys got some Sunday night football to watch.
51:35I'm just really excited to watch my egos play football.
51:38So I need to get out of here very quickly so I can do that.
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