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0:52Lamar Jackson back Sunday against the Bills. But how much, Lamar, can we expect first game back from injury and multiple injuries
0:59that we need to update you on in week eight?
1:02Some of them very consequential in division races. And we look ahead to the trade deadline by looking back at some of
1:08the moves that we have seen thus far in 2026.
1:11All in the Insiders starting right now. Hey, everybody.
1:14Patrick Leibold here along with Ian Rappaport, Judy Batista and Jeremy Fowler as we get right to the start of our show
1:21where we've kind of started the show the same way the past couple of weeks.
1:25An update on Lamar Jackson's injury status. He will play Sunday in Buffalo after he missed three games.
1:31Baltimore lost 2-1-1 after weeks of not knowing whether or not the quarterback would be available.
1:35Here's the coach and the quarterback now knowing he will play.
1:39It's your starting quarterback. It's a guy that's meant a ton to the organization and a ton to the league in general
1:45and just with his success and obviously the type of player that he is.
1:50That would give any team, I think, a jolt like that.
1:53We're excited about that opportunity. Again, we don't, you know, there doesn't need to be like this crutch of Lamar, even though
1:59we know how great of a player he is.
2:02So it's like that balance. But, you know, I thought Snoop over in the last three games put us in position to
2:09be successful in a majority of those games just looking back at it.
2:13So credit to him. But again, exciting certainly to have Lamar back.
2:16You know, I'm always excited when I'm able to be back on the field with my guys, man.
2:22Put us in the wind, call them, help us get another dog.
2:25That's what I'm ready to do. And yeah, I feel like I'm no longer a statue, man.
2:30I'm able to move around a little better so I can give it a shot.
2:35And we've seen in recent history, Lamar playing through an ankle injury that really impacted his play.
2:40How do we see things as of right now?
2:43Well, the good news is Lamar Jackson is going to play.
2:46You're right. We have basically led this show. I think every sports show in America has probably led the show with the same thing.
2:53Is Lamar Jackson going to play? It has been a whirlwind.
2:56That is now over. He is good to go, is going to play a full participant all week.
3:02No setbacks. As he said, he's not a statue, so he's able to move around well.
3:07These are all good things. I just do not expect Lamar Jackson to be 100 percent.
3:12This might take some time. It has obviously been obviously been an ankle injury that was a little more worrisome, a little more bothersome than we initially thought.
3:20It was obviously not just a one-week deal. It's something Lamar has been fighting through, making sure that he can get as close to 100 percent as possible.
3:28If he doesn't run quite as much, if he's not as agile as he usually is, that is okay.
3:34That is coming. But at the least, Lamar Jackson is on the field.
3:38Well, I'm not a statue, is all that opposing defenses are going to need to hear to prepare to play the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson.
3:46Because don't forget, the threat of Lamar Jackson's mobility is enough to force defenses to honor it.
3:51He may not be 100 percent, but let's be honest, 80 percent of Lamar Jackson is still better than almost anything else you can put on the field.
3:59The offense needs him, even if he is not mobile enough to take off and run, as long as he can protect himself, move away from pressure.
4:07And, of course, he's going to be able to pass the ball.
4:11The offense needs him. They score more. They're better in the red zone.
4:15Derek Henry rushes better when Lamar Jackson is on the field.
4:18His presence elevates the entire offensive production. And to say nothing of the fact, the juice that he gives to the team
4:25in the huddle, you can't discount that when you have a two-time MVP back on the field.
4:30Yeah, Judy, both teams want to go into this with their star players healthy.
4:34And the Buffalo Bills have a few skill guys who are prominent players and are questionable for this game.
4:40You got DJ Moore with a shoulder issue, was limited in practice all week.
4:44And then Dalton Kincaid with a chest issue. I'm told that Kincaid right now is pretty confident that he should be able to go.
4:51Moore has been a question mark for weeks now, but they're coming off the bye.
4:56He did put together three straight days of practices.
4:58They feel like he's in an improved spot. Will that be enough?
5:02They will make that determination. But the Bills are hoping to have their full arsenal ready to go for Josh Allen to go at it against Lamar Jackson.
5:10Meanwhile, a significant injury for the Washington commander. Sources tell me and colleague Mike Garofalo that Deron Payne has suffered a significant foot injury today in practice.
5:18One that will knock him out for the foreseeable future.
5:21One that will likely land him on injured reserve.
5:24And one that could mean he played his last down in 2026.
5:28He was a popular trade target. I have no doubt that the commanders would have been able to trade him.
5:34Now that is all over for Deron Payne. Much better news for Jamar Chase and the Cincinnati Bengals.
5:39He has been dealing with an ankle injury and some rest this week.
5:43Was not a participant in practice or in the week.
5:46Causing some concern. No cause for concern. He is good to go off the injury report and will play on Sunday.
5:52Ian, the Lions, their star player, should be good to go.
5:56No injury designation for Jameer Gibbs despite a little bit of a shoulder issue.
6:00Missed the early week of practice coming out of last week's controversial emotional game against the Packers.
6:05Gibbs is not only good to go, but he's got 166 touches on the year.
6:09He's tracking for almost 500 touches, which would be a crazy amount.
6:13But I was told that this is what he wants.
6:16He wanted to be the workhorse back. They're giving him the ball early and often.
6:21They also got Amonra St. Brown who has a little bit of an ankle issue, but it's not considered serious.
6:27He was limited early in the week, but went full go Thursday and Friday.
6:31So he also is expected to play. So they will have their full arsenal ready to go for this one.
6:37The Eagles will not have their full arsenal ready to go.
6:40That has been a storyline of the whole season.
6:43But they are going to have that guy, Saquon Barkley, dealing with not just hamstring injury, but also a back injury that
6:49popped up kind of mid-game last week. You can see him on the sideline.
6:54He was dealing with it. Battled through it. He's going to battle through it again this week off the injury report and good to go.
7:01So Devontae Smith, not as good to go. He has been dealing with a hamstring.
7:06It's something that has plagued him. Feels like the whole season, feels like the whole Eagles team has injured the whole season.
7:12Anyway, he is going to be out this Sunday for the Eagles.
7:16Ian Brees Hall could be out a fifth consecutive week.
7:19He is officially questionable with a quad issue that has been nagging.
7:22They didn't put him on injured reserve, hoping to get him back.
7:26He hasn't practiced in full in over five weeks.
7:29He's been limited all week. So he has a chance, hasn't talked to reporters in the locker room.
7:34So still not totally clear as to whether he's going to be ready to go.
7:39They got Braylon Allen, who's been a workhorse the last month, getting 20, 20-plus carries at times this year.
7:44So they feel like they're good to go regardless.
7:47But Hall is their deep threat out of the backfield.
7:50It gives them explosive plays. They got a big one with the Raiders trying to get off the snide, sitting at 2-5.
7:57They hope to have Hall, but not a slam dunk right now.
8:00More on that matchup later. Let's look elsewhere for some injury updates.
8:04Jeremiah Love is expected to play the rookie for the Cardinals.
8:07A.J. Brown and Travion Henderson both questionable. Mansour Delaney is questionable in the big game between the Chiefs and the Broncos.
8:13Emeka Ibuka is out. David Bailey is doubtful with a groin injury.
8:17Let's look back to how the week eight started here on Thursday Night Football.
8:21Jordan Love and the Packers playing host to Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers.
8:25Panthers up 10-6 early. A big shot to Christian Watson.
8:28He goes up and grabs it. Trouble is, he's very slow getting up.
8:32Lands awkwardly. Would be taken by the ambulance to the hospital and would return to the game.
8:37Later on, Packers up 10. It is Josh Jacobs out of the backfield with a touchdown on third and one.
8:43Christian Watson on his way back in the second half.
8:46To a loud, a roaring crowd there in Green Bay.
8:49Skimming ahead to the fourth quarter now. Fourth and three.
8:52Panthers going for it. Down 27-13. A slant to Jake Rokoker.
8:56And he goes ahead and houses this. The Carolina Panthers back in this game.
9:00They would go for two. Ultimately not get it, so they need a stop.
9:04The Packers want to get some yards. Where do you go?
9:07Why not go to the guy who's fresh out of the hospital and the ambulance?
9:12As Christian Watson seals the deal for the Green Bay Packers.
9:15They went at 27-19. So, the Watson in the story.
9:18What we can take away. But also the big story in the game, Jeremy.
9:23The way that that defense played against Carolina last night.
9:26Yeah, Patrick. They're shaping up to be a little bit of a dominant defense.
9:30And they're getting Micah Parsons back in practice as early as next week.
9:34But this defense has five straight games of 20 or fewer points allowed.
9:38And two or more takeaways. And I talked to safety Javon Bullard before the game.
9:42He told me, look, Bryce Young is one of the smartest quarterbacks I've seen on film.
9:47So, we got to confuse his picture. Mess with him post-snap a little bit.
9:51Bring some blitzes. And Jonathan Gannon did that in a heavy form.
9:55They had 22 pressures on Bryce Young. 22 dropbacks.
9:57He was under duress running around. So, it was sort of a futile case for Carolina's passing game.
10:03Packers like what they're doing. And they got the NFC North division that is open to all four teams.
10:08So, the Packers defense is going to need to continue rounding into form.
10:12And, Fowler, you mentioned Micah Parsons coming back. He is expected back at practice next week.
10:17And it has been a long road for Micah Parsons dealing with not just recovery from an ACL tear, but also meniscus.
10:24Had the full repair duty on his meniscus, which is why it has been more than nine months.
10:29The Green Bay Packers, one of the more conservative medical staffs in the NFL.
10:33So, not sure it's going to be a quick fix, a quick solve for Micah Parsons.
10:38But this defense has really, really improved over the last couple weeks.
10:42And add in one of the best defensive players in football at some point.
10:46And this is all excellent news for what is a Packers team that is looking really, really promising.
10:51Good news for the Packers. Not such great news last night for the Carolina Panthers.
10:56They lose another game. And then they fired this morning defensive coordinator Egero Averro.
11:00Not much of a surprise. The defense has really been struggling this season, particularly against the run.
11:05If you go back to week one, remember they gave up almost 300 yards on the ground to the Chicago Bears.
11:11Then a week ago, they gave up more than 160 yards to the Bucs on the ground.
11:17So, they've been struggling. This actually goes back a number of years.
11:20They had hoped that the defense was going to make a jump this year.
11:24It just hasn't happened. They've been riddled with injuries, to be fair.
11:28But the defense just was not getting better, even as this season went along.
11:32They were not making adjustments to allow them to recover from the injuries.
11:36So, there will be a new defensive coordinator right now.
11:39It is Todd Wash, who is the defensive line coach.
11:42He will serve as the interim defensive coordinator. And they are trying to break their losing streak.
11:47By the way, they are still in first place in the NFC South.
11:51Or they finished the last season with a little bit of help.
11:55When we come back, the Patriots might need some.
11:57A.J. Brown a couple of weeks back from a high ankle sprain.
12:01But another injury adds more concern in New England.
12:04And a big one in the AFC West this weekend.
12:07Can a key return for Kansas City swing another matchup in their favor over Denver?
12:11That's next on The Insiders. A scary look at week eight.
12:14You want to see something scary specifically for the Broncos.
12:17If the Chiefs win, they have an 85% chance to win the division, according to ESPN Analytics.
12:23But there is a chance. There is hope if the Broncos win.
12:26They have a 53% chance to win the division.
12:29As we welcome in Jeff Judy, who's been spending time with the Kansas City Chiefs this week.
12:34Notably undermanned against the Seahawks. But they do get some help back this week.
12:38Definitely. They're excited to see wide receiver Rasheed Rice come back from a hamstring injury.
12:43That's cost him two games. And also right tackle Jalen Moore, who missed last week's game against Seattle with a concussion.
12:49Now, Rice is huge because the receivers in that game against Seattle combined for 39 total yards.
12:54Patrick Mahomes says he loves having Rice back because he provides that physical presence.
12:58A great intermediate threat. And having Moore back is big because Jonathan Cooper, the Broncos star edge rusher, did not play in his first game.
13:06He'll be out there this game. And Andy Reid says he's really concerned about that.
13:10And as far as the defense, Patrick, for the Chiefs, they've got to find a way to get after Bo Nix in this game.
13:18Because he's so mobile. And the Chiefs pass rush has been anemic.
13:21Only eight sacks. That's 30th in the NFL. And Chris Jones is a big part of this.
13:26He only has a half sack. He says he has to play better.
13:30Hopefully that can happen this week because they are not beating the Broncos without getting after Bo Nix.
13:36One of the more interesting storylines, Jeffrey, about this game is the Broncos running back usage.
13:40Now, this was not, I would say, the biggest thing about the Broncos.
13:44There's a lot of consternation about Bo Nix and the kind of regression and what he's going to end up being.
13:51And then we saw J.K. Dobbins' hilarious interview exchange with Mike Kliss, one of the local reporters in Denver.
13:56Been there a long time. Kind of one of the deans of that beat crew.
14:01And it was basically going back and forth with Kliss asking him, what does it feel like to be replaced late in
14:07game by some of these young guys? And Dobbins went back and forth and kind of mentioned that it's a long season.
14:14He's going to get some rest and all that.
14:17But it did call attention to what is kind of quietly happening inside the Broncos running back room.
14:22That Jonah Coleman is starting to get real legitimate carries.
14:25Missed the first part of the season, was injured.
14:28R.J. Harvey not going to play. Dobbins has played some.
14:31Meanwhile, Jonah Coleman has quietly come on and is really showing that if you choose wisely, you can get someone who looks
14:37like he's starting running back in the mid-rounds. This certainly is a player to watch.
14:42Not saying any of this because I grabbed him from my fantasy team, although I did.
14:47And I'm going to start him this week. Yeah, as he should.
14:50Great value there. And you want to do some of that math that Mike Kliss was doing at the behest of J.K.
14:57Dobbins. How about the Steelers, both and the Browns, with over 700 win percentage at this point in the season?
15:03It hasn't happened since 1994. The Steelers won 17-7.
15:06It happened back again in 1972. The Steelers won 30-0.
15:09There's all kinds of statistical anomalies available. Much, Judy, like the team that's in first place in the division also leading the NFL in taking sacks.
15:16Can the Browns and Deshaun Watson keep this up?
15:19That's right. We've spent a lot of the season talking about the Deshaun Watson career renaissance and how many late game drives he has led.
15:27But he's also leading the league. He's taken 25 sacks.
15:30Again, leads the league. The Pittsburgh Steelers already have 18 sacks.
15:33That's in the top 10 in the league. This is worth keeping an eye on.
15:37We know that Deshaun historically holds the ball a long time.
15:41He's waiting for plays to develop. But you can see he's also going down really fast there as well.
15:46Neither of these teams scores a ton of points.
15:49So it's going to be critical to see if Deshaun can keep the drives going, if he can hold onto the ball
15:56better than he did in that clip right there.
15:58This game is for first place. There's been a lot of question, a lot of conversation about, is this real, the Cleveland Browns?
16:05We're going to find out a lot from this game.
16:08If they can go into Pittsburgh, sweep the Steelers for the first time in ages, go into Pittsburgh, deal with that defense, and come out with a win.
16:17That would tell you that, yes, the Cleveland Browns are legitimate.
16:20Yeah, it's actually become one of the more interesting divisions in the NFL somehow, and I really can't wait to watch this one.
16:27Here's what has been interesting watching the Pittsburgh Steelers, that Jalen Warren has emerged as basically a bell cow running back.
16:33And this kind of happened randomly, right? I mean, Rico Dowdle, they brought in the free agency, supposed to be basically part
16:40of a two-headed monster, got injured, missed several games.
16:43And when that happened, Jalen Warren stepped to the forefront, actually began with his 17-carry, 127 performance, the first time against the
16:49Cincinnati Bengals all the way to last week. 18 carries, 101 yards for the Saints.
16:54You never know what player is going to seize their opportunity when an injury happens.
16:58They lost Dowdle. He has really stepped in and become one of the more productive running backs in the NFL.
17:04It was a close one the last time those two teams faced off.
17:08The Patriots lost a close one on Thursday night football on the road in Chicago.
17:13They're traveling again to take on Miami Sunday, 5-0 after a loss under Mike Vrabel, who was asked about A.J.
17:19Brown's ankle and now knee injuries this week. You come out of the game or a long week or practice on Monday, evaluate the player.
17:26Just wasn't able to be able to practice or finish practice on Wednesday, and so we continue to treat him, and then we'll see where he is tomorrow.
17:34Since he's questionable with A.J., you're not worried at this point that it's like a long-term thing?
17:40I'm focused on today. I'm focused on getting the team ready to go down to Miami and win.
17:45That's what my focus is. We'll have 11 out there on offense.
17:49I hope that we do. That's our goal. And again, I appreciate all your guys' questions.
17:53Judy, they're on to Miami. A.J. Brown's injury came on week one of the season, starting to look like it might be an issue for the duration.
18:01Yeah, it looks like this is going to be a lingering problem.
18:05I'm sorry to say to Mike Brabel, I don't think these questions are going to go away anytime soon.
18:11A.J. Brown right now is officially listed as questionable for the game, so we will see if he can go.
18:17But in the two games that he has been back since he came back from the injury, he just has not looked like himself.
18:24He's certainly not running as well. He's had some drops.
18:27He doesn't appear to be playing with a normal amount of energy and confidence that you would expect from A.J.
18:33Brown. So we will see if he can go.
18:36If he can't go, they're pretty thin at their top-level wide receivers right now.
18:40Romeo Dobbs and Matt Collins are both on IR, so Drake May is going to be working with a whole bunch of depth pieces if A.J.
18:48Brown is not on the field. As for the Miami Dolphins, they're coming off their first win of the season over the New York Jets last weekend.
18:56They're feeling pretty good. The two games before that win, they were actually only one-score losses, so things actually seem to be
19:02coming together a little bit better for the Miami Dolphins, maybe performing a little bit better than their record would indicate right now.
19:09Thank you, Judy. When we come back on The Insiders, what better way to preview the trade deadline than to analyze the
19:16trades that we've already seen this season? We'll grade some trades coming up next on The Insiders.
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19:24Enjoy the NFL season while listening to NFL Cover Zero.
19:27We have storylines, predictions, and lots of silliness. Here's what you can expect from the podcast in our second season.
19:33When you meet people and you say your job's a sports announcer, it's always interesting to see what the first thing they say is.
19:40I did have one of the more difficult questions, though.
19:43He sits next to me and he sees I'm on my computer and he goes, Big sports fan.
19:49And I was like, yeah, actually, and he goes, what are you thinking about my Jaguars this year?
19:54I realized, like, no one's ever asked me that question ever about anything.
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20:05Back on the Insiders. Trade deadline coming up in a few days, but we've already seen plenty of moves.
20:11Jeffrey Simmons just moved to the Chicago Bears from the Titans to Forrest Buckner and Quentin Nelson dealt this week.
20:17Marvin Harrison, Jr. goes to the Houston, Texas to rejoin his college teammate.
20:21Cam Juergens got traded to the Baltimore Ravens. Joey Porter, Jr.
20:24joined that Cowboys defense. But only one of those teams on that graphic is currently in first place.
20:29It was a team that what didn't seem like made a blockbuster deal at the time, the Giants trading for J.J.
20:36McCarthy. Things have looked good thus far, Judy. Right.
20:38And it's only been five quarters. We should offer that.
20:41But it has looked good. And it's been everything that the Giants could have hoped for.
20:46The operation has been smooth. J.J. McCarthy's been able to use his legs to extend plays.
20:51He's shown good touch on his deep passes. And maybe most importantly, his presence and his mobility has really opened up the
20:58running game, which had been dormant for a few weeks before he got there.
21:02Again, it's a small sample size, only five quarters.
21:05But this is how the Giants hope to play offense.
21:08This is what they are looking for to look like they would have looked when Jackson Dart was playing.
21:13We will see if it can be consistent with J.J.
21:16McCarthy. I think that's what undid him in Minnesota, but certainly off to a very good start for the New York Giants.
21:23You know, Judy, there's not a great track record of successful midseason trades.
21:27That is a great example of one that has absolutely worked out.
21:30Here's another one, by the way. The Dallas Cowboys trade for Joey Porter Jr.
21:35Obviously talked his way out of Pittsburgh, was not able to get a long-term deal, felt some sort of way, ends up getting traded to the Cowboys.
21:43There's been some bumps in the road. He was sick that one game, but when he has played, he has been really, really good.
21:50Perhaps Fowler, the one piece of this defense that will help the Cowboys defense go from being very bad to good enough
21:57to win a lot of football games. And if Joey Porter Jr.
22:00helps that, this trade will be much, much, very well worth it, I will say.
22:05No doubt, Ian. Let's stay in Texas with Houston.
22:07You've got Marvin Harrison Jr. has played two games with the Texans, bit of a small sample size here because he's only
22:14played 25 total snaps in those two games. They are throwing to him, though.
22:18He's got eight targets. He's had several catches and a touchdown.
22:21So, so far, so good. I feel like the Texans feel Harrison has had a little bit of an exhale.
22:27He's been able to reset his career after some rough times in Arizona.
22:31He clearly wanted out of there. He hired an agent just to essentially facilitate a trade and start new.
22:37And so they feel good about where he's at.
22:40Also, they get the bye week now to recalibrate him, get him up to speed with the offense with C.J.
22:46Stroud. So he should be a bigger part of things moving forward.
22:49Yeah, it's already moved teams. And there's lots of speculations, as always, around the deadline.
22:54Players like Buda Baker fielding questions on whether or not they will be traded or not.
22:59Sometimes you field those questions on October 30th. Yeah, just living the present.
23:03You know, like today, having a great time with you guys and going to have a great Friday practice and just focus
23:09on playing against the Dallas Cowboys and trying to get a W at their stadium.
23:14But at least he does it with a smile on his face, Jeremy.
23:18Let's look at some trade markets, starting with wide receiver.
23:21It's getting spooky out there. And it could be spooky for Jacksonville and Brian Thomas Jr.
23:25Because he is a key name to watch leading up to the deadline, mostly because there is significant interest in the player.
23:32Teams are hopeful and are sort of thinking that the Jacksonville Jaguars move on from Thomas because of his declining role in the last few weeks.
23:40Now, the Jaguars play on Sunday and then Thursday against Baltimore.
23:43So they likely won't make any sort of move before then.
23:46But you got this little bit of carousel here because the Kansas City Chiefs are looking at receivers potentially.
23:52Pittsburgh Steelers, a few other teams. Thomas would be high on that list for a lot of these clubs.
23:58So Jacksonville is willing to move them. Then the dominoes could fall.
24:01And you have Indianapolis' Josh Downs, who's also requested a trade.
24:05So those two are certainly in the mix of receiver to be moved potentially.
24:09Speaking of Indianapolis, a lot have been discussions this past week about players available.
24:13What we don't know is about the availability of star running back Jonathan Taylor.
24:17Here's what we know. Teams have called. They have been interested.
24:21The Indianapolis Colts view Taylor as a player who is part of their rebuild.
24:25But we don't know if at some point the interest is going to be so much where they say, you know what?
24:31We have to do a trade. Stay tuned on that one.
24:35Let's talk about the cornerback market. Here's an interesting name.
24:38Reek Wollin from the Philadelphia Eagles. I obviously thought the Eagles did originally that he would be one of the final pieces of the really good defense.
24:46For a roster that is pretty stacked in a team that generally goes deep into the playoffs, obviously it has not worked out that way.
24:53Still in a one-year deal. A prove-it contract. He is someone who certainly, for the right price, could be a big-time piece on defense.
25:01Yeah, Ian, I feel like edge rushers are always big names this time of year.
25:05They get moved closer to that November 10th deadline, and teams are looking for help there.
25:10Now, I'll start with the L.A. Chargers. You've got Khalil Mack.
25:13Certainly there's going to be interest in Mack from what I've heard.
25:17The Chargers have held off on making any sort of fire sale declarations.
25:21They've made firm we're going to try to win games here sitting at 0-6, but if they were to fall again to
25:27another loss and get to 0-7, perhaps they move Mack.
25:30You've got Yaya Diaby in Tampa Bay. There's some interest there.
25:34They couldn't reach a deal with him this offseason.
25:36He'll be a free agent coming up. Now, the Bucs typically don't sell, but they're at 2-5.
25:41If they lose another game, they could move on from him.
25:45And then Jermaine Johnson, Tennessee, is another name to watch.
25:48The Titans are sitting at 1-6. They already traded Jeffrey Simmons.
25:51Do they make another move there on their defense to try to replenish their draft capital?
25:56So, there will be others. Minnesota Vikings, too, is a team to watch, at least on the D-line, maybe more interior D-line.
26:02But they could try to help Brian Flores to get some pressure and penetration on offenses moving forward.
26:08Which is something to imagine because they already generate plenty of it as we look in that battle in the NFC North this weekend.
26:15The unbeaten Vikings taking on the Lions. We're protecting Jared Goff, who has been one of the best quarterbacks in the league
26:22against the Blitz, against the Blitziest team in the last 20 years is the focus.
26:26And while the Lions offense may be the unstoppable force, Dan Campbell knows they're running into the immovable object that is Brian Flores' defense.
26:33B-Flo's got them playing, man. And those guys, Cashman, and I mentioned that crew of veterans, Van Ginkle and Wilson and Harrison and Metellus.
26:40And then you've got Clark coming off the edge.
26:43They understand what we're doing to you and where your outlet's at.
26:47And we will take away your outlet and force a one-on-one or a hit on the quarterback or a hit on the back.
26:54Our tackles are going to need to have a big game.
26:57On the other side, the Vikings offense has just 14 trips to the red zone thus far this season, the lowest in the NFL.
27:04Kevin O'Connell asked today if relying on the strength of that defense to win has made Kyler Murray play a bit more conservative.
27:11It's probably more so just the play call. It's how much risk are we taking with those calls.
27:16We still want to, especially in those, those could be some of the best looks we get all day to activate certain
27:23phases of our offense in the pass game. So we want to still be aggressive from a call standpoint.
27:29But there's just some dialogue about situational, you know, if we're going to be aggressive, hey, I'm going to be aggressive here.
27:35But I need you to be smart and just keep throwing completions.
27:39And what that looks like, the coverage and the look will, you know, kind of dictate where the ball ends up going.
27:46Judy, a fun coaching matchup in this one. Can't wait to see Brian Flores' defense attack the Lions.
27:51Yeah, and can they dismantle Jared Goff, who has been quite literally flawless so far this season.
27:5614 touchdown passes, no interceptions, averaging nearly 300 yards per game.
27:59Of course, Brian Flores is just destroying quarterbacks with his blitzes.
28:03They are blitzing 70% of the time. We will see how Jared Goff handles it.
28:07There has been a lot of question. Is this sustainable for the Vikings to play like this where you're so reliant on the defense?
28:14Well, we're going to find out because this is the best offense they have faced so far this season.
28:20They faced Chicago earlier in the season and they sacked Caleb Williams four times and really limited the passing attack.
28:26This, though, statistically is the best offense. They are performing the best at this moment that they're going to play.
28:32So if the Vikings can get through this and defeat the Detroit Lions and hold this offense down, you have to wonder
28:39what offense could possibly break through against the Vikings defense.
28:42We will see. This is going to be a fun one.
28:45Maybe one of the best games of the year.
28:48Absolutely. And how good is this Vikings defense? We are really about to find out.
28:52Also curious about how good this Vikings offense is going to be.
28:56And Kevin O'Connell does such a good job of explaining really the state of where things are at.
29:01And he is right. Like, they have called the offense like a team that has an awesome, awesome defense.
29:07At some point, this offense and Kyler Murray is going to have to carry it.
29:11We don't know when that's going to be, but at some point.
29:15That's why it's been interesting as you call around the leagues.
29:18The Vikings are one of the teams that are interested in adding potentially a offensive skill guy, potentially a running back.
29:25Might that help take a little pressure off Kyler Murray?
29:28Might that take some of the pressure off this offensive line, which has battled some injuries this year, lost Donovan Jackson, obviously.
29:34At some point, this Vikings offense is going to have to show us what they're made of.
29:39We just don't know if it's going to be this Sunday or Sunday in the future.
29:44More to come in the NFC when we come back.
29:47The NFC South shifting as the Panthers lose two in a row.
29:51Now the Falcons travel to Tampa Bay. Sarah Walsh joins us to discuss that matchup next on The Insiders.
29:56We're back on The Insiders and the Falcons back in Tampa this weekend taking on the Bucs.
30:02The NFC South, the only division in which every team is currently under .500.
30:06Circumstances have notably shifted in the past couple of weeks as we welcome in Sarah Walsh, where this one, this specific matchup
30:12between the Falcons and the Bucs, the entire view has changed.
30:16Not only did they get a quarterback back, but the Panthers just keep losing, Sarah.
30:20Well, here's the thing. You mentioned both these teams under .500, but things are getting more interesting because the Falcons come into
30:27this having just knocked off the Niners. The Bucs come into this having totally dismantled the Panthers in what was Baker's comeback game.
30:34Now, Baker only threw the ball 11 times last week in Carolina, but that is because the Bucs' ground game racked up 258 yards on the ground.
30:42Graham Barton, their center, called it a game you don't forget ever because it never happens like that.
30:47They ran it 49 times. Now, the Bucs' new offensive coordinator, which is previously Atlanta's old offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson, told me
30:54that they've had to adjust their identity. He said if you asked him before training camp wrapped, he said they would be
31:00a high-flying 11-personnel team with Emeka and Tez and Chris Godwin and Jalen McMillan.
31:05Well, Jalen McMillan has no timetable for a return.
31:07Emeka has been ruled out once again this week, so he said now their identity is we're going to try and smash you with the run.
31:15We're going to try and compliment you with the pass.
31:18Baker was seen practicing this week without the glove that he wore last week, and Robinson told me when he dislocated that
31:25thumb in week three, he said after that game, Baker told him, oh, I'm playing next week.
31:30And then the medical staff stepped in, Patrick, and said, you're not playing.
31:34And then the following week when he had to sit out, Baker went back to him.
31:39He said, oh, no, no, I'm playing next week.
31:41And again, the medical staff prevailed, and he had to sit out the three weeks.
31:46But he is back. Robinson told me he's not 100%, but he's getting close to it, Patrick.
31:51No, the defense was making sure he didn't need to use that thumb a whole lot against the Carolina Panthers.
31:57What's the plan to handle this Falcons offense this week?
32:00Well, Vida Vea told us the Falcons offense is a headache offense, and he said that is even before you turn on the tape.
32:07You've got, obviously, Bajon Robinson. You've got Drake London.
32:10And then you've got Michael Penix, who's coming off a game in which he earned NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors.
32:16The Bucs, you mentioned it, created four turnovers a week ago, but Penix has done a really nice job taking care of the football.
32:24He hasn't thrown a pick in four straight games.
32:26The Bucs are known, Todd Bowles' defenses are, for stopping the run.
32:30But their corners have been very good this year.
32:33Jacob Parrish leads the league in pass breakups, and Zion McCollum is having his best season as a Buccaneer.
32:38He knows Drake London is going to test them, and he told me that with London, even when you got him covered
32:45up, you still have to fight him afterwards. He said, if he's going to pull you, you've got to push him back.
32:51If he's going to push you, you've got to pull on him.
32:55He knows what kind of game he's in for, and he called London, unlike any receiver he has seen so far.
33:01He said, because of how big he is, how strong, how aggressive he is.
33:06And then, obviously, there's Bajon. Zach Robinson knows him well.
33:09I said, did anybody come to you this week and ask for advice on how do you stop this guy?
33:15And he goes, yeah, well, you know what I would say to them?
33:18I couldn't tell you how to stop him because this is a guy that can break it off at any time.
33:25And he said, which we all know, he is scary.
33:28Good time for Halloween. Oh, and by the way, Patrick, not a meteorologist, but there's a 95% chance of rain here on
33:34Sunday, so you better believe that ground game will factor in even more heavily.
33:39Yeah, a little weather update, a full-ranging update on what will be the Zach Robinson revenge game from Sarah Walsh.
33:45Thank you, Sarah. Elsewhere, after a bye, the Jags play holes to the Colts, who have had significant shifts in their team in the past week.
33:52Coming off of the bye this season, everybody has won.
33:55No pressure for the Jags. Going up against a team that's traded two of its better players in the past few days,
34:02but Jags head coach Liam Cohen knows to never take a Shane Steichen coach team lightly.
34:07Unless you can get some turnovers, right? I mean, they're not going to just screw it up by scheme or screw it
34:13up by poor coaching or something like that. That's not happening.
34:17So you listen to Jonathan Taylor's comments and all that stuff throughout the week.
34:21Like, this is going to be a team ready to go.
34:24I mean, it always stinks to lose players without a doubt, but these guys are pros.
34:29They know what's on the line. They know it's a division game, and I know Shane and their group are going to be ready to play on Sunday.
34:37Judy, the last time the Colts won in Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence was a freshman in high school.
34:43This one seems like it would be as unlikely as any of those matchups if the Colts were able to pull it off.
34:49Yeah, I think one of the big storylines of this game is how do the Colts look?
34:55Do they look like they're still playing hard for Shane Steichen, who is coaching for his job after all?
35:00Or does it look like they've thrown in the towel?
35:03It's been a rough week for the folks in Indianapolis.
35:06Two franchise pillars already traded. Josh Downs, one of their teammates, has already requested a trade.
35:11He's going to play as for the Jackars. They are in the lead of the division.
35:16They just need to clean up the errors they've made early in the season.
35:20They are a team that is poised to make a run into January.
35:24Let's look elsewhere in week eight. The Cardinals visiting Dallas on Sunday, and despite a three and four record, the Cowboys have
35:31the best chance to win the NFC East, according to ESPN Analytics, at 62% over the last three games.
35:36George Pickens has 260 yards and two touchdowns. Ian, but he came under some fire from his head coach last week.
35:43What's the Pickens discussion this week? Now, Pickens took the high road here, basically saying that he was only focused on the team.
35:49But, of course, Pickens is in the contract here, again, similar to last year.
35:54A lot of eyeballs on him, again, similar to last year.
35:57And really what he did last year is what he hopes to do this year, which is wear it all and then have a breakout game.
36:05And so we don't know if it's going to be this game.
36:08We just don't. But Pickens certainly seems to be at least trending in the right direction over the last several weeks after
36:15taking some of that shrapnel from his head coach.
36:18The Cardinals have had some tough times. One big win against the Rams, but some tough times.
36:23You do wonder, is this the game George Pickens announces himself again?
36:26Elsewhere, the Eagles and the Commanders this weekend in the DMV in the division.
36:31Key injuries there. Saquon Barkley expected to play as he fights through that hamstring injury.
36:35Nolan Smith expected to play back from a concussion.
36:38Devonta Smith is out with a hamstring. Javon Kinlaw is out.
36:41Traylon Burks is questionable with a foot injury. And we heard from Ian on De'Ron Payne earlier.
36:46The fight against pediatric cancer extends beyond hospitals and research labs.
36:49It takes entire communities stepping up for children and families facing unmanageable challenges.
36:53Inspired by the legendary Hogettes, a new group of Commander superfans have become a lifeline for children fighting cancer.
36:59We just wanted to kind of bring that face of the fan back.
37:03We knew that if we were going to do this, we had to do it right.
37:08We would do fundraisers, raising money for children and their families going through pediatric cancer.
37:12Hog Farmers, thank you for the hat, the piggy, and the piggy.
37:16What's it like as a parent seeing people who aren't related to him show up for him in a major way?
37:22That's a really good term, like showing up for him, because that's exactly what they've done.
37:27You good? I like your outfit. Thank you. These are kids.
37:30They shouldn't have to go through this. See the full story.
37:34Tune in to Game Day Morning this Sunday on NFL Network.
37:37And to learn more about ESPN's Pediatric Cancer Research Initiative and help support the goal of raising $10 million for cancer research
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37:48Coming up, it is the battle for SoFi Stadium.
37:50It's a sunset over SoFi. The Chargers taking on the banged-up Rams.
37:54Can the Chargers win their first game of the season?
37:57We preview it next on The Insiders. Football's back.
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38:47The Chargers will be without Derwin James, but they will have Trey Harris and Ladd McConkie, who are both expected to play.
38:54The Rams' injuries get a little bit of news.
38:56Nate Landman is expected to play back from the concussion, but Trent McDuffie and Colby Parkerson are questionable with a rib injury,
39:03as Taylor Bishotti was there at the Rams' facility today.
39:06They had a lot of injuries last week. They were able to overcome them and get the win.
39:11They did get that much-needed win, but Sean McVay told me today that they've had to adjust the offense and adjust his
39:18play calling without key players on the field like Devontae Adams and Terrence Ferguson.
39:22And we saw that firsthand in the game against the Raiders last week, starting with the run game.
39:28Both Blake Corum and Kyron Williams rushed for a combined 192 rushing yards.
39:32Kyron Williams had 16 carries. Blake Corum had 17 carries, by far the most that he's had all season.
39:37And also the Rams ran the ball more than they passed the ball for the first time all year.
39:43And this is significant considering this is such a pass-heavy offense.
39:46Matthew Stafford leads the league in passing yards. I asked Blake today, what's been different?
39:51And he pointed to the volume that the running back room is getting.
39:55He said the additional work in the red zone.
39:57Now, the red zone is an area where Stafford usually looks to Devontae Adams for.
40:02A player that we did see step up in the red zone last week was Davis Allen, who had a career high two touchdowns.
40:09But Patrick, this is what we're going to continue to see more of, is Sean McVay getting creative with the players that
40:16he does have on the field and also relying heavily on the run game because it does not look like help is coming.
40:23McVay said this week they are not expecting to make a trade at the trade deadline.
40:27Unlike his NFC West opponents. But we did get some good news.
40:31Devontae Adams, who did have successful hamstring surgery earlier this week, he texted McVay, sent him a picture.
40:36He was actually walking around. And McVay said the initial time frame was, of course, six to ten weeks.
40:42And he expects that to be on the shorter of the two.
40:46Well, good news there. Because initially ten weeks felt like a long time for a team to be without one of its biggest red zone weapons.
40:54Taylor Busciotti there with the Rams. And with us today on the Insiders, the Raiders and the Jets both coming off of losses.
41:00It's another Geno Smith revenge game playing against the Raiders franchise where he had by far the worst season of his career as a starter.
41:08Judy Batista will be covering that game this weekend.
41:11Judy, what are we looking for there in MetLife Stadium this weekend?
41:14Well, you know, for the Jets, there's been a lot of outside noise here in New York since they have lost that game to the Miami Dolphins.
41:22But I've got to tell you, when you talk to people inside the Jets building, there's actually some optimism for the future of the New York Jets.
41:30They love the young players that they have. The last few drafts have been really productive.
41:35They love those players. They're looking ahead to next offseason when they've got three first-round draft picks and a ton of cap
41:42space projected to be able to spend. They know that there are issues that need to be cleaned up.
41:48Aaron Glenn's game management has been problematic. They've got to get the ball to Garrett Wilson.
41:52We talked about this last week. They didn't do it.
41:55They've got to get the ball to Garrett Wilson, who is frustrated by his lack of a role.
42:01But there is optimism that there has been progress at the New York Jets.
42:05As for the Raiders, they are sticking with Kirk Cousins.
42:08Clint Kubiak could not have been any clearer. There's no quarterback controversy there.
42:12He said, eventually, the overall number one pick, Fernando Mendoza, will play.
42:15But they do not have a date circled on the calendar, I am told.
42:20They are seeing how it goes. Kirk Cousins is not the reason why they have lost four games in a row.
42:26He is the least of their problems. There's a lot of other things going wrong at the Raiders right now.
42:32They have very little running game. The offensive line is struggling.
42:35The defense has really struggled. They don't want to put Fernando Mendoza on the field in a bad situation.
42:41So it is going to be Kirk Cousins for the foreseeable future.
42:45I'll swear it. Thank you, Judy. The Titans taking on the Bengals who avoided – excuse me, the Bengals taking on the Titans.
42:51The Bengals avoided having to play Jeffrey Simmons. He was traded to the Chicago Bears, making for a notable absence this weekend for Tennessee.
42:59It also makes us wonder, Ian, about the short- and long-term plans for the Titans after the trade.
43:04In the short term, let's talk about that first.
43:07Obviously, they do have a game this week, and all the players are going to have to take the field knowing that
43:13the organization just traded their best player, their face, their franchise.
43:17Now, the actual reasons for the trade are extremely sound, something that if used properly should build the Titans' future, really build
43:23the foundation for everything they're trying to do, which is good.
43:27Every GM would have done what Mike Borgonzi did and said, you know what, let's take these two first-round picks and more.
43:33But the players still have to go play knowing that Simmons got traded away.
43:37We're going to see how the coaching staff can hold them together and what kind of reaction they get on the field based on how they play.
43:46Also looking forward to a great Monday night matchup on the way in Seattle.
43:50The Super Bowl champs play host to the Bears, including a new Bear and a new Seahawk.
43:55We preview these teams after a couple of trades next on The Insiders.
43:59Back on The Insiders, Monday night, a potential NFC championship game preview.
44:02The Bears visit the Super Bowl champions in Seattle, 8 o'clock Eastern on ESPN and streaming on the ESPN app.
44:08Both of these teams active before the trade deadline in exchange for Jeffrey Simmons and a 2028 fifth-round pick.
44:14The Titans get a 2027 and 2028 first-round picks.
44:17And the Colts send Quentin Nelson to the Seahawks.
44:19They get a 2027 third-round pick and a 2028 fifth-round pick.
44:23So let's look ahead to the plan for these gentlemen, especially for Jeffrey Simmons, whose team, his game plan, and opponent all changed this week, Ian.
44:31Yeah, much to the chagrin, by the way, of Quentin Nelson.
44:34Too bad. Jeffrey Simmons, he gets to face him this week.
44:37Probably going to do one-on-one battle with each other.
44:40And, yeah, I would expect Jeffrey Simmons to come in and play.
44:43He is a professional. He handles his business in the right way.
44:47He is also one of the best players in football, regardless of position.
44:51If you acquire that guy, it probably makes sense to play him.
44:55So, yes, I would expect a lot of Jeffrey Simmons out there for his new team, the Bears.
45:00It's probably not music to the ears of the Seattle Seahawks, but that is part of the reason why they got Quentin Nelson to protect Sam Darnold.
45:08That also allows Gray's able to move over to the right guard position.
45:12Quentin Nelson will be at left guard. In addition to protecting Sam Darnold from Simmons and every other pass rusher, I am
45:19interested to see how it improves the Seahawks' run game.
45:22Because they have certainly missed Kenneth Walker in the early part of the season.
45:26They are getting Zach Charbonnet back from injury very soon.
45:29We hope on Sunday he will be back. So, I'm interested to see how that running attack looks, too.
45:34Yeah, looking forward to this game coming up on Monday Night Football.
45:38Looking forward to a great Week 8 here in the NFL.
45:41And a happy Halloween to everybody. Please celebrate responsibly and safely.
45:45For Ian Rappaport and Judy Battista, I'm Patrick Leibold.
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