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0:39Week 8 people, we had shootouts, we've got new division leaders, and we had a team win a game by double digits without completing a pass.
0:48And that may be enough to open things up for Bucky Irving.
0:51Man, I love this sport so much. This weekend had everything, you know, it had upsets, it had stuff that would make
0:59service academies blush, it had, you know, defensive performances, offensive performances, everything, everything.
1:03Special teams blunders and special teams heroics. I can't complain at all.
1:07Me neither. We've got to start with Broncos and Chiefs.
1:10Simply, if nothing else, but for the winning of the division probability that existed in this game.
1:15Brett, if the Broncos would have lost this game, they would have gone down to just a 24% chance to win this division.
1:23But with the win over the Chiefs, they're at 64%.
1:26A 40% swing? That is nuts. That's insane. I mean, that is back in it.
1:31That's more back in it than any team maybe has ever been back in it.
1:36Man, I get it. The Chiefs defense is a little bit banged up.
1:40And then, you know, there was whatever happened with Kingsley Suamataia and the benching for the second time, I guess.
1:46We still don't really know what was going on with that.
1:50But to me, it comes down to second and one from the one yard line.
1:55So second and goal from the one with an opportunity to win the game.
1:59And for whatever reason, this team, this coach refuses to sneak the ball.
2:03I understand Mahomes got hurt on it, you know, was it seven years ago now when he dislocated his kneecap?
2:10And I'm not saying you have to sneak it with Mahomes, but this is such a high success rate play.
2:16You could do it twice in a row. Almost guarantee yourself a touchdown.
2:20Even if he's not the one doing it. Bring in Justin Fields to sneak the ball.
2:25Bring in anybody. Dude, Kelsey can do it. Kelsey can do it.
2:29Didn't Kelsey, like, play a little quarterback in high school, right?
2:33It's not like he hasn't done it before. Just somebody, right?
2:36I instead, you know, second and goal from the one.
2:40They're in the gun running like a variation of that corndog play.
2:43You know, they ran in the Super Bowl a couple different times.
2:47And I get it. Like, it's been successful for them.
2:51But you know what's more successful overall? Just sneaking the ball.
2:54Like, you have an opportunity to win the game.
2:57I don't understand why they refuse to just take the path of least resistance to points.
3:02It's been an issue with the Chiefs forever. They always get cute in the low red zone because they just, I mean,
3:09in some years they couldn't punch it in. But you're from the one.
3:13If you can't get a yard, how can I take you seriously?
3:17Like, what are we doing? Yeah. I mean, I'm 100% with you.
3:21If you can't get a yard, you kind of don't deserve to win it.
3:26And the Chiefs could not get a yard. Didn't deserve to win the game in a handful of ways.
3:32Man, you talked about, okay, the defensive lines kind of beat up for this team.
3:37They're not as successful as they were at the beginning part of the season.
3:41And Chris Jones, 29 pass rush reps in this game.
3:44One quarterback pressure. You don't see that a lot.
3:47But honestly, I'd rather talk about the Broncos in this game than necessarily some of the Chiefs' failures.
3:53And I know it's a little bit of like all of this goes into it.
3:58But man, the way that the Broncos play defense and set up their defense, I feel like it's just been a nightmare back-to-back weeks for the Chiefs.
4:06Because you have two teams that are either talent-wise or structurally, or actually probably both for both of these teams, able to
4:14really slow down what was a running back in Kenneth Walker, which it felt like no one was going to slow down
4:21on the planet, let alone in this season of the NFL.
4:24The way that the Broncos and their odd front defense with three down defensive linemen, yet two outside linebackers that are basically
4:31right on the line of scrimmage, they just don't happen to have their hand down.
4:36They play this 5-2 front that still allows them to play technically in nickel, and it also technically allows them to play too high whenever they want.
4:45So you have this structural setup with the Broncos where you have the bodies on the line of scrimmage to defend the
4:52run and to defend Kenneth Walker in ways that we saw from the Seattle Seahawks the week before.
4:58And yet you also have that too-high look that's best when taking out the Chiefs' crossing routes, which they love to go to.
5:05Now they still had success on some of them, and there was a lot of yards after catch that did end up happening in this game.
5:13Shout out to Emmitt Johnson for that. Man, he is absolutely having a breakout through this first half of this season, especially in this game.
5:21But when I look at the Broncos and how they play defense, it is set up to stop this Chiefs team, and
5:29they really did look at that tape from week one, totally burned it, totally said, that is not us, that's not our
5:36identity, we're going to be better next time around, and they were.
5:39To me, it's a shout out to how this defense played, really being able to slow down everything that I felt like
5:47the Chiefs wanted to be able to do. You know, the key theme from that first matchup was missed tackles, right?
5:53They had a nearly 30% missed tackle rate. They had 28 missed tackles overall.
5:58They still didn't tackle amazing in this game, but 16 missed tackles and an almost 19% missed tackle rate.
6:04While not great, it's a lot better than historically bad.
6:07It's Walker. And he's bottled up early in this one.
6:10And also in the first matchup, you know, the Chiefs got a 45% pressure rate.
6:15They cut that down to 30%. Still roughly the same blitz percentage, but they were better at picking up those blitzes.
6:22They were better at handling the Chiefs pass rush.
6:25It's just the little stuff in the margins that really helped this team, you know, kind of get over that hump.
6:32This team wasn't that far away from being a legitimate AFC West and AFC contender.
6:36They just needed to, you know, play Broncos football, which is what we've seen them do the last month or so.
6:43They just didn't do it in week one. You know, it's amazing to see what happens when they actually tackle semi-sorta-kinda-almost average.
6:50You mean it's amazing what happens when you tackle in not a historically bad rate?
6:55Yeah, I think that's one way that you could put it for them.
6:59By the way, shout out Jonah Coleman. Jonah Coleman breakout game here.
7:03Led the team in both rushing and receiving. Had 41 rushing yards and a touchdown.
7:0863 receiving yards. 15.8 average there. A lot of that coming on one singular play.
7:13But still, you know, we count it. We count it here.
7:16And we knew it was coming, too. I mean, how many times did we talk about the first month of the season?
7:23They didn't have a running game. They didn't have anybody that could break a tackle.
7:28RJ Harvey was really more of a receiver than a runner.
7:32Like, we were waiting for Jonah Coleman to take over this backfield.
7:36And it's finally happening. I think they were, too.
7:39You know, like, it just felt as though all of their struggles with how they wanted to operate on offense.
7:45Because it felt like, you know, if they put too much on Bo Nix's plate, it felt like it didn't really work super well.
7:53But they really wanted to be a lot more balanced.
7:56And I think that they were forced to be at the beginning of the season.
8:01That's why you saw some of those frustrations with what we've talked about with Nix.
8:06But it always kind of felt like it was building towards this running back that they drafted this past April that they
8:13felt as though could be a three down back for them.
8:16And even the way that they talked about Jonah Coleman, it felt like that.
8:21So I do believe that the identity of this team changes with him now in the lineup.
8:26Now, I know it wasn't like the greatest statistical game that you've ever seen.
8:31But I think that this could really be a jumping off point for this offense, again, being a lot more balanced than
8:38I felt as though they were afforded to be at the beginning of the season.
8:43So it's a really, really interesting game here for the Broncos specifically, because you can really look at this game and Jonah
8:50Coleman being out there in the lineup and all of that and say to yourself and convince yourself that this is really
8:57where it begins to turn around for the Broncos.
9:00What a difference 30 seconds makes. The Chiefs moving the ball down the field, moving the ball down the field, missed the field goal.
9:07And on the very first place, Spaggs sends a whole bunch of heat and Bo Nix finds Coleman to get behind him.
9:14The Minnesota Vikings and the Detroit Lions are our next game here.
9:18Lions, big division win here. Before we get into what felt like a big time chess match between these two coaching staffs,
9:25just want to say prayers, love, thoughts, everything to Jack Campbell, him, his family, his teammates, everybody in that situation.
9:32Obviously, we all love this game, but this is something that's very serious that's going on with him and what we saw during that game.
9:40And so just wanted to make sure that we said that right off the top that breaking down this game, obviously something
9:47that we love to do and that's important, but that is much, much more important.
9:52So we wanted to make sure that we send our thoughts, love, prayers, everything out to that situation.
9:58But Detroit does get a huge win in the division here.
10:01And man, Brett, it felt like Drew Petsing, the offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, was absolutely in his bag to try
10:08to counter whatever Brian Flores is going to throw at him.
10:12And my goodness, Brian Flores did indeed throw the kitchen sink at him, but the Lions were up to the challenge and
10:19they end up coming out victorious in this game.
10:22Where do you want to start with this one?
10:25More of a Detroit angle or more of a Minnesota Vikings angle now that they are no longer an undefeated team?
10:31Kind of both. You know, Brian Flores' blitz rate in this game was 89.7%.
10:36And you and I had talked recently of, yeah, he's working his way up to 100.
10:41We're going to get there at some point this season.
10:44But you and I had talked like, okay, is his blitz rate correlated with what he thinks of the opposing quarterback?
10:51Because in recent history, he had actually blitzed Goff less because Jared Goff is very good against the blitz and maybe he
10:58wanted to just kind of play more coverage rather than pressure.
11:02And he just put the pedal to the metal.
11:04And I think we've kind of dispelled the rumor or the theory that his blitz rate is tied to what he thinks
11:12of the quarterback because we know he respects Jared Goff a lot.
11:15And he just wanted to test him over and over and over in this really test the entire offense and test Drew
11:22Petsing and just see how they would react. See if they could produce against this kind of pressure.
11:28And I think what I find most impressive is, you know, with defenses like this, you kind of play the run on the way to the quarterback.
11:37That's kind of been their mantra this year. We're going to blitz on early downs, get TFLs.
11:42We're going to blitz on late downs, get sacks.
11:45And the fact that Detroit still ran the ball this effectively into a damn near 90% blitz rate, that to me, hats off to Drew Petsing.
11:54Like that's obviously the players are executing. But if you can scheme your way into effective runs when you're throwing six, seven
12:01bodies in the backfield, that's a hell of a coaching job by him.
12:05I wonder if there were more blitzes in this game against Goff in particular because Flores maybe looked at the offensive line
12:12for Detroit and said, OK, they're starting a rookie at right tackle in Blake Miller.
12:17Cade Mays missed a lot of the start of the season due to a wrist injury.
12:22And now he was back out of center and he actually left this game due to an ankle injury, which I want
12:29to get to Drew Scruggs actually in a second.
12:32But I wonder if Flores was just like, hey, I'm going to be hyper aggressive in this one because I feel like
12:39the offensive line that the Lions are currently throwing out there is worth challenging.
12:44Now, I think that Petsing just did an unbelievable job going blow for blow with Flores.
12:49You know, there's a lot of times when with Flores, he just stacks the line of scrimmage and you just, you never
12:56know where the blitz is truly coming from. And I was watching Ben Solak break this down.
13:01I think it was last week or the week before that was really great when you have those double mugged looks and
13:08you have both of these linebackers, like they'll both start to play by blitzing.
13:13And then whichever one the center takes, they'll back up into coverage.
13:17And the one that the center doesn't take obviously will continue his way towards the quarterback.
13:22And so you look at those situations and I think that that's just all of this fear that Brian Flores has.
13:29But Petsing did such a great job just fighting that sort of fear and unknown by being aggressive straight at it because
13:36there were these times, Brett, where they'd play with multiple tight ends, but it wouldn't be just traditionally, okay, the tight ends,
13:43you know, attach to the line of scrimmage and then the other one's a wingback or even like the other one's a fullback.
13:50Sometimes you'd have both of the tight ends just in the backfield and they would run these plays where it almost looks
13:57like a trap block or a wham block. I know that second and 10 run that went for 12.
14:03I know the exact one you're talking about. It was a weird formation.
14:08And it was like kind of like an insert.
14:10That's the thing. It's like, it's like, it was these insert type of blocks where all of a sudden the defensive line
14:18of Flores were the ones who had to go, wait a second, where's the gap?
14:22Like, where's, where's my gap? Where's the A gap here?
14:26Because I thought it was here, but now it's over here.
14:29And now this guy's coming this way. So is the gap actually over here?
14:34And it was one of the first times that I truly watched an offensive coordinator just stare at Brian Flores straight in
14:41the eyes and said, I'm going to be even more aggressive than you.
14:45And you normally don't think that you can do that from a blocking concept because of how crazy creative Flores is.
14:52But shout out to the Lions. Shout out to Petsing because I felt like they matched that chaos and creativity with the chaos and creativity of their own.
15:01And it was very fruitful for them in this game.
15:04And it's the flip side of the coin of what we talked about early this season, right?
15:09Going back to week one, when we were looking at what Shanahan was doing with how they were moving around their fullbacks in the backfield on the fly.
15:18Yes. And creating these new gaps on the fly.
15:21And then we saw defenses responding with run blitzes.
15:24Because if you're going to try to create a new gap on the fly, well, we're going to throw bodies in the
15:31backfield and make you have to adjust at a faster pace than what you've practiced that run hitting.
15:37Well, now Petsing is flipping that around. Okay, I know you're blitzing.
15:41I have a pretty good idea of what the rush path is going to be.
15:46So we're going to use two guys that can create inserts on the fly.
15:50And you're going to have to adjust off us now.
15:53And it's just matching aggression with aggression, but the other way around.
15:57And it's awesome. Lions, 230 rushing yards. Just the fourth time that a team has rushed for over 200 yards against Brian Flores' Vikings defense.
16:05Lions also had a 25.6 explosive run rate versus the Vikings.
16:09Highest mark of the season, plus the highest versus the Vikings in the Brian Flores era.
16:14And then Juice Scruggs. I wanted to mention Juice Scruggs.
16:17So Cade Mays didn't play a ton in this game because he had that ankle injury when he went out in the second quarter.
16:25But my goodness, when Juice Scruggs came back in the game, and Juice Scruggs has been good so far this season, he comes back in the game.
16:34The success rate went from 23.8% to 57.4%. In the rush game, it went from 22.2% to 56.7%.
16:39And the total EPA went from negative 9.6% to positive 6.6%.
16:43So Juice Scruggs' on-off splits were incredible once he came back into the game.
16:47And he's been rolling, I feel like, through the first part of this season.
16:52So, man, I think that he deserved a shout-out right there.
16:55Really quickly, what did you think of the Amon Ross St.
16:59Brown CFL-looking play? What did you think of that?
17:02Because I actually think, you know what, it works to perfection.
17:05And I kind of give a hat tip to that.
17:09But my goodness, if the throw is not perfect.
17:12It's risky. That play stinks. And to Goff's credit, man, it was perfect.
17:16But a lot of risk in that play. I think the ingenuity of it is, you know, it's technically a run because the throw is backwards.
17:24But it functions as a screen. And normally, when you have a, you know, whether it's a swing screen, something like that,
17:31the ball carrier isn't at that kind of speed when they're catching the ball.
17:36And so, it changes up kind of the usual cadence of what a defense is used to, right?
17:42When they're stacking on a block, peaking, shedding. If it's hitting faster because Amon Ross running at full speed rather than running
17:49at kind of half speed and then taking off.
17:51It's a really interesting wrinkle. It worked, kind of.
17:54I mean, it did work. It did work. Right.
17:57Not to the degree that they hoped, but still kind of sort of worked.
18:02I'm interested to see if they iterate on it even more because the idea itself is really cool.
18:08Look at this formation. They've got Amon Ross St.
18:10Brown 20 yards back of the line of scrimmage.
18:13They're going to throw it to him. A running start.
18:17It's like arena football. And it's going to work.
18:19What a play. First down for the Lions. Thoughts on Kyler.
18:23Not just in this game, but just overall this season.
18:26Because it's another game where he has a below 60% completion percentage, which is the second time it's been below 60.
18:33And then he had another game where it was right at 60.
18:37Third down conversion percentage was 30%. Run success rate for this team was 38.7.
18:41It just continues to feel very inconsistent. And you never feel super confident about it.
18:46Your thoughts overall about Kyler in this game? The Vikings have scored 16 or fewer points in four of their last six games.
18:54And in the other two, they only scored 23.
18:56Well, only scored 23. It's not like terrible, but it's not amazing either.
19:01But if your high points in the last month and a half of football are 23 points and 66% of your games
19:08in the last month and a half, you're scoring 16 or less.
19:12That's not good. And the only reason they were getting away with it is because their defense was allowing 10.4 points per
19:19game in the five games leading up to this.
19:22This one, all of a sudden you allow 19 points and you just can't win.
19:26If you're looking at how Kyler has performed this year, it hasn't been good enough.
19:31I think he would acknowledge that. KOC kind of seemed to acknowledge that postgame in his sound as well.
19:37I'm just waiting for the Kyler of five years ago to show up and it's just not happening.
19:43And at this point, I'm wondering if it ever will.
19:46Yeah, I'm with you. His numbers aren't bad. Because I kind of tried to look up like design rollouts, play action things.
19:53Like his numbers aren't bad when he's doing these things.
19:57It's just not as confident as we've seen Kyler be in the past.
20:01And I think that just leads to a lot of the inconsistencies.
20:05And until they get better play from the offense overall, but obviously it runs through Kyler.
20:10It's going to be hard to really believe in this team for as elite as the defense is.
20:16The Arizona Cardinals took down the Dallas Cowboys because they always do.
20:19They are 5-0 now in AT&T Stadium. So good on them for keeping that perfect record.
20:25And good on them for upsetting the Cowboys as my 10 confidence pick once again in our week 8 pick'em.
20:31Unbelievable. I just cannot believe that I continue to go for the Cowboys as my 10 confidence game.
20:37It's your own fault, man. It is my own fault.
20:40It is my own fault. But you know what?
20:43You know what, Brett? You know what? The Cardinals had a 2% chance to win the game with 4 minutes and 13 seconds left in the game.
20:522% is not 2% against the Cowboys. I'm going to go to bed tonight.
20:56I'm going to tuck myself in and I'm just going to go, hmm, the process was right.
21:02As I think about losing another 10 points when we get to the week 9 pick'em in a couple of days.
21:08Process over results on your way to Cancun in January.
21:12Yeah. I'll take another Mai Tai, please. Okay, where do you want to start this game here with the Cardinals' overtime win over the Dallas Cowboys?
21:20I mean, I like Christian Parker. Well, liked Christian Parker.
21:23Everybody always spoke very highly of him as Vic Fangio's top lieutenant.
21:27It's not working. It's not working. And you can say it's a talent issue, right?
21:32And they have some deficiencies at key positions. Like, I get that.
21:36But there are teams around the NFL that I think have less talent than them that just play better sound defense than them.
21:43And at some point, that's on the coaches. It hasn't worked all year.
21:47We are halfway through the season now. It hasn't really gotten better.
21:51I don't think it will get better at this point.
21:54Like, maybe they can make a splash trade to get more talent.
21:58But is that really going to fix their underlying issues?
22:01I'm not sure it will. At this point, I'm not sure if he's going to be the DC in 2027.
22:08Like, I think mediocrity would be acceptable in the first year of a new DC.
22:13This isn't even that. This is just objectively horrible.
22:16They just got too conservative once they got up on the scoreboard.
22:20And I feel like so many teams get burned with this all the time.
22:24But if you look at the first and second quarter splits, which, you know, that, that, or sorry, the first and second half splits, excuse me.
22:32That first half is obviously Jacoby Brissett. And then there's somebody Jacoby Brissett in the third quarter as well before Gardner Minshew comes in.
22:40And basically, he's just like, you know, he's basically sunshine.
22:43And remember the Titans? Where he's just, where he's just like, he's just strapping up the helmet.
22:49And he's like, nah, it doesn't matter. We're letting it fly.
22:52But in the first half, when you look at the Cowboys defense, Brett, they played so much more aggressive.
22:58They played 50% cover one in the first two quarters.
23:0254.2% man coverage rate. They had less than three average separation when the ball was getting to the target of the receivers.
23:09And they had a 5.3 average cushion before the snap.
23:12You get to quarter three and four. Okay, now all of a sudden, they went from 54.2% man coverage rate to 20% man coverage rate.
23:20They played 70% cover four, cover six, cover three.
23:23But it was mostly quarters, cover four stuff. Again, you're up on the scoreboard.
23:27So you're playing further back. Their average separation when the ball got to its target, went in zone in the second half, was 5.6.
23:35So it went from below 3.0 to 5.6. And the average cushion went from 5.3 to 5.7.
23:41It's too much space. It's too much space. It's too conservative.
23:44Now, I know you're up on the scoreboard and you're just trying to not prevent big plays.
23:50But guess what? Then they got big plays. You invited the big plays.
23:54And all of that invited the Michael Wilson legacy drive.
23:57And I love Michael Wilson pre-draft. I mean, he just wants to win every single rep, man.
24:02He plays so physically. He's so technically sound. And there are just so many different ways where he can win.
24:09And I mentioned all those different types of zone coverages that he faced in the second half.
24:14On that last drive, he picked apart three different types of defenses, types of coverages for 61 yards.
24:20And what should have been the go-ahead touchdown ended up being the forced overtime type of a touchdown.
24:26All respect to the Arizona Cardinals and letting it loose there in the second half.
24:31It's not good enough for the Cowboys. And unfortunately, there have been many, many weeks already, eight weeks through the season, where
24:38it has not been good enough for the Cowboys.
24:41This season, to this point, Brett, massive disappointment for Dallas.
24:44And I don't think there's any other way to say it.
24:48Two notes. Michael Wilson did all that with broken ribs, by the way.
24:52Yeah. Yeah. Which is incredible. And he said, hey, they're paying me a lot of money.
24:57They're going to get their money's worth. Absolute dog.
25:00I love him so much. He's a culture builder through and through.
25:04Second note. Dallas had never lost a home game.
25:07In Cowboys history, it's a long time, with a 14-plus point lead in the fourth quarter.
25:12They were 202-0-1, including playoffs, before this week. First time I've ever done it.
25:16That in itself, I don't know if that's individually a fireable offense, but it does get added to all of the other
25:23noise that's already been happening this season. Hey, this was supposed to be a championship type year.
25:29There was a bunch of hype. Go win the division.
25:32NFC East is super winnable this year. And they've just fallen flat on their face.
25:37And now a lot of people have added to that chorus of, is everybody gone after 2026?
25:42Because this is just kind of embarrassing at this point.
25:45You have Gardner Minshew coming in. Which actually, now that I mention it, Gardner Minshew in games where he's not the starter,
25:53but he does play, might be a top five quarterback of all time.
25:57Our research team, really, when I say that, it's Callie.
26:00Callie pulled these numbers for us. Since 2019, in games where the quarterback does not start, but does play.
26:06Gardner Minshew, 125 completions, most in the NFL. Over 1,300 yards just in those games where he's coming in mid-game in relief.
26:13Most in the NFL. Eight passing touchdowns, second most in the NFL.
26:1765 passing first downs, second most. Weirdly, second to Mitch Trubisky in both categories.
26:21And 16 completions of 20 plus yards, most in the NFL.
26:25When he gets in the game, if it's just him coming in as a backup, and he has no pressure, no care
26:32in the world, he's just slinging it, that's the best version of Gardner Minshew.
26:37And unfortunately, when your defense is already bad and facing that version of Gardner Minshew, you are liable to lose in historic Cowboys fashion.
26:44Football's back. Hey, it's Drew Franklin from NFL Cover Zero.
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26:57When you meet people and you say your job's a sports announcer, it's always interesting to see what the first thing they say is.
27:05I did have one of the more difficult questions, though.
27:08He sits next to me and he sees I'm on my computer and he goes, big sports fan.
27:14And I was like, yeah, actually. And he goes, what are you thinking about my Jaguars this year?
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27:31Michael Floor's got to be pumped about this game specifically.
27:34Not just because it's a win, but because this is a culture win.
27:38You look at two guys who you leaned on very heavily in this game.
27:43It's Tyler Algier and it's Michael Wilson. And obviously, like, Trey McBride is in there as well.
27:48I mean, you talk about guys who put their body on the line, will get you every yard physically possible every single time they touch the ball.
27:57I mean, this is a culture type of win.
28:00It's on the way and it is good. Redemption for Ryland.
28:03Comeback for the Cardinals. A shocking win in Dallas.
28:06The Cincinnati Bengals out-dueled, and I do mean out-dueled, the Tennessee Titans in their overtime victory, 43-36.
28:12Brett, in a game that contained over 750 passing yards between the two quarterbacks of Joe Burrow and Cam Ward.
28:18Thoughts on this game? The entertaining, thrilling game that it was?
28:22And where do you want to start with this one?
28:25I mean, one of the most impressive Burrow games we've seen in a while, even with three interceptions.
28:31Just the ability for him to keep firing and keep firing at that kind of level.
28:36I mean, you know, darn near 80% completions. Like, they get six total touchdowns in this game.
28:41Almost half a thousand yards in one game. Like, he is truly unbelievable.
28:46He is the kind of quarterback that comes around a franchise maybe once in the history of a franchise.
28:52And the Bengals have had some good quarterbacks, by the way.
28:55But Burrow is just, he's beyond rare. And at the same time, on the other side, you know, Cam Ward, who you
29:02and I have, I think, justifiably criticized this season, I think that might have been the best game of his career as well.
29:10And him keeping up with, you know, Burrow at the height of his powers, playing like that.
29:15Like, yes, obviously three interceptions. But, you know, the amount of points that Burrow put on the board, the amount of throws
29:22deep down the field into tight windows. Like, he was just firing and firing and firing.
29:27And for Ward to keep up with him, especially in the second half, that to me was the most encouraging performance of his young career.
29:35Even though they lost, like, that to me is secondary.
29:39Like, Cam Ward kept up with Joe Burrow. That's the headline.
29:42If you're just looking at third quarter and fourth quarter, well, headline for Titans, I should say.
29:48For the Bengals fans, yes, you won. You're the headline.
29:51But for everybody else, Cam Ward. Second half, 11 of 15, 132.
29:55Two touchdowns, 139.4 passer rating, 8.8 yards per attempt.
29:58He was brilliant in the second half. In particular, if you're looking at man coverage and mid-range, like he was an assassin
30:05in mid-range in this game, and when the Bengals played man coverage, he was just sensational.
30:1011 of 17 for a buck 58, two of those touchdowns, one of those on a slot fade in the red zone
30:17that was just perfectly thrown, 133.9 passer rating against man, and a whopping 9.3 yards per attempt.
30:22That was what we've been waiting for, is the decisiveness, him using his arm strength.
30:27And really, he is a gifted thrower. We saw that at Miami.
30:31It's just he felt afraid to make a mistake for the first part of this season.
30:36And I think once they traded Jeff Simmons, and we were kind of in, okay, the season's not going the way that
30:43we want mode here, fire sale mode, if you want to call it that.
30:48I feel like this pressure kind of lifted off his shoulders.
30:51He was like, what do I have to lose?
30:54We're already a bad team. Let's just let it rip.
30:58And he finally played like Miami Cam Ward that let it rip and didn't worry about making mistakes.
31:03And shocker, it was the best game of his career, in my opinion.
31:08And Brett, I think I agree with you completely.
31:10And I think there's a reason for this type of Cam Ward game, even beyond just him maybe feeling as though a
31:17weight is sort of off of his shoulders. They also played no huddle quite a bit in this game.
31:2441.4% no huddle in this game. 29 total plays.
31:27That's the highest of any team so far this season.
31:30They also had an 8.5 yards per play average when going no huddle.
31:34And the NFL average is 5.3. And I think that goes into a little bit of sort of what you talked about
31:41with college version of Cam Ward, which was a lot more free.
31:45And when you're playing no huddle, obviously there are still things that you have to decipher and read.
31:51And you're reading the defenses and you're seeing things pre-snap as post-snap.
31:55Like all that stuff exists. But everything is so much more sped up that you almost, you don't have time to overthink.
32:02Yeah. You can't. No, you can't. So you're just playing off of vibes and instincts.
32:06And if you are asking me who are some of the best quarterbacks in the NFL at playing off of vibe and
32:13instincts, Cam, for all of his struggles, would probably be one of the first names that I give you.
32:20And I think that script manifested here. Now, the danger of doing that all the time, because people would be like, well,
32:27why don't we just do that all the time?
32:30Well, the danger is if you're going no huddle all the time, like a lot of college teams sort of run into this.
32:37Some of the fastest college teams around the country.
32:40If you want to play fast, but you're bad.
32:43You're just speed running to three and out. You're just speed running three and outs and your defense is gassed the entire game.
32:50So you have to be able to sustain it.
32:53That's why you look at a lot of these teams that just feel like it's just like an avalanche that you just
33:00cannot handle because they're just moving the ball so quickly and they're getting up to the line or snapping the ball and there's nothing defenses could do.
33:09When it works great, it's an onslaught and it's amazing to watch.
33:13But when it doesn't, that really puts your defense in a bind.
33:17And a lot of NFL coaches, especially defensive head coaches, do not want that.
33:21So there's a reason why, like with Robert Sala as the head coach, why he would be sort of slow to accept that.
33:28But the reason why Cam Ward was afforded that game plan is because Burrow's on the other side.
33:34And you know that basically every single week, whether it's a race to 30, whether it's a race to 35, 40, 45,
33:4150, 60, whatever it is, Joe Burrow's going to be up to the task.
33:46So there is no foot on the gas pedal that is too fast because he will be able to match you no matter what you do.
33:54And that sort of gets me back to a little bit of a philosophical question here.
33:59When I look at the Bengals, I think that a major threat out of the backfield sort of feels like the last,
34:06I don't know, like missing explosive piece of this offense.
34:10So like I've talked about like Jonathan Taylor maybe be in a landing spot here in Cincinnati.
34:15But in reality, Brett, the more I think about it, the more I'm just like, does it really matter?
34:21Because isn't the ball better in Joe Burrow's hand 80% of the game anyways?
34:26So who cares who you have at running back?
34:29Now, of course, the games where you don't run it well and they lose, it's an easy thing to point to and
34:36say, man, I wish they had a better run game.
34:39But I kind of look at the Bengals this year, and they're very much living by the sword, dying by the sword,
34:46and just saying we're going to put the ball in Joe Burrow's hand as much as we possibly can.
34:52Like it was 72.9% in this game, and it's been close to 80% in other games as well.
34:58Is that just the best strategy for them? In years past, I would have said they have to run the ball more.
35:05But because of how good the Bengals offensive line has played this year, I mean, really, they've been good, you know, both
35:12in the run game and the pass game. I just think that Chase Brown has been kind of disappointing as far as,
35:19you know, capitalizing on the room that this offensive line has given him.
35:23But, you know, focusing on them as a pass protection unit, Amarius Mims is playing like arguably the best right tackle in football this year.
35:31He's got a bunch of big-time pelts on the wall so far.
35:35And, you know, if this offensive line is playing like that as a pass protection unit, you can kind of get away
35:42with throwing that much just because Joe is not going to get hit as much behind this line as he would have
35:49in years past with former Bengals lines that were just awful, right?
35:53So I think they finally built the offensive infrastructure that really can maximize what Joe always wanted to be, which is somebody
36:00that is throwing 35-plus times in a game, not because they have to, but because they want to.
36:06And it's like the, you know, the analytics dream scenario of like, hey, you know, pass game, go burr.
36:12Like, it's higher EPA every time you drop back.
36:15Let's just do it all the time. And every reason why you wouldn't want to do that might not really apply to
36:22the Bengals because they have the quarterback and they have the receivers and they have the offensive line.
36:28Like, they are what the analytics models thinks that the modern offense should be as far as early down pass rate and
36:35overall run pass splits and everything like that. And while you and I say, yeah, but you do want to run the
36:42ball and have more balance and take hits off the quarterback and all that kind of stuff, if you're built exactly like
36:49the Bengals are, you can kind of do what every analytics nerd says you should do and throw this much.
36:56And it's for a good reason, not a bad reason.
36:59Six touchdown of the day for Joe Burrow. And the Bengals strike first in overtime.
37:04Buffalo and Baltimore, the next game that we want to hit here.
37:08Look, Lamar plays the full game. I think this is a different story.
37:12It's one of the games of the week. But Lamar gets hurt in the first pass.
37:17Now he's on IR. Snoop Huntley gets hurt. I mean, it's just a nightmare season for the Ravens, it feels like, to start of the year.
37:25Shout out to Josh Allen, who passed Jim Kelly for the most touchdowns in Bill's history in this game.
37:31Bill's completion of eight different receivers, which I think is a worthwhile talking point here because I think a lot of people
37:38have at points complained about the Bills not having a superstar go-to wide receiver one.
37:43But when you have an offense that is Josh Allen and friends, it feels like, I think maybe it's better the more
37:50diverse you are, certainly when it looks like it did this week.
37:54So obviously everything's rolling for the Buffalo Bills. Played very, very well in this game.
37:59Ravens, no Lamar. It's tough, Brent. To me, my Ravens takeaway here, which is different than my Bills takeaway, my Bills takeaway is like, yeah, they're still great.
38:08My Ravens takeaway is this solidified Venga you want if you're Rookie of the Year.
38:13In just one game. My man, my man. He's like three quarterbacks.
38:17This is what happens when he doesn't play, Trevor.
38:20Disaster. Absolute disaster. Hey, Venga's an incredible player. Lamar's injuries I know are very frustrating for Ravens fans, certainly this year with him missing time.
38:28And now, I mean, he might be out for the year.
38:31So it's hard to really have a solidified Ravens take of what they're going to be moving forward just because the team
38:38is not really built to win without Lamar. And we highlighted that even when it was Tyler Huntley.
38:44When it was Tyler Huntley versus Lamar, how Huntley has one of the lowest air yards per attempt averages in the NFL.
38:51Lamar has one of the highest. And so it's just a completely different offense.
38:56So it's just really unfortunate what could have been for this Raven season that it's not going to be anymore.
39:02But the Buffalo Bills, we mentioned how good they have looked this season, how good they looked in this game.
39:09Bills blitzed on 64.5% of the dropbacks, their highest blitz rate since 2021.
39:13So Jim Leonard's out here in his bag. 11 pressures and a season high.
39:177 quick pressures in this game as well. And 11 different Bills players generated at least one pressure with 8 of them getting at least 2 pressures.
39:26You'll love to see it. Diversity on offense, diversity on defense.
39:29Bills feel like a wagon. Feel like a wagon.
39:32Anything else in this game before we move on?
39:35I mean, you mentioned Tyler Huntley, low air yards per attempt.
39:39He might be out with a toe as well.
39:42This could be the Joe Fagnano show for a while.
39:45So, I mean, at least we'll see what he's got, I guess.
39:49That's not what the Ravens fans wanted this season.
39:52There's no scenario where those are the words that they wanted to hear in week 8 of this season.
39:58Injuries, worst part of the game. Las Vegas Raiders and the New York Jets.
40:02A shootout, as everyone, of course, predicted. An absolute barn burner here in this game.
40:07Where do you want to start? Do you want to start with the Raiders or the Jets?
40:13Dude, Geno Smith had a, speaking of air yards per attempt, his air yards per attempt in this game was over 16 yards.
40:20He was just throwing it way down the field.
40:23Every opportunity he got. Speaking of A.D. Mitchell. A.D.
40:26Mitchell. A.D. Mitchell. Never wrong. Just early. Just early, baby.
40:29Just early. Very, very early. Yeah, that sauce trade where they gave up A.D.
40:34Mitchell for nothing as like a side throw in for the sauce trade is turning out to be a nightmare for the Colts.
40:41Because A.D. Mitchell, when he's been on the field, has been impactful for the Jets.
40:46But back to Geno Smith. Again, average air yards per attempt over 16 yards is utterly insane.
40:51And to still have a CPOE north of, you know, 7 plus percent on the day.
40:5662.5% raw completion doesn't seem that crazy. But when you factor in the air yards per attempt, like every single ball was a trick shot down the field.
41:05Just an outrageous stat line by Geno. Kind of vintage Geno, I would say.
41:10You know, Braylon Allen was beating them up early.
41:13Like, you know, 121 rushing yards and 6.7 yards per carry just in the first half.
41:18Like, all of this sounds pro-Jets even though they lost the game.
41:22But I'm trying to set the stage for, you know, the onslaught that Vegas weathered here to then come back in this game.
41:29And the interesting part about it was they did it without Ashton Gentry.
41:33On purpose, by the way. Yeah, on purpose. He said he was not going to get carries.
41:39Or he said that he was told he was not going to get carries before this game.
41:44I'm assuming it's some sort of disciplinary action for him.
41:48Kind of trash-talking publicly about the Jets saying that they didn't want to tackle.
41:52And I think Clint Kubiak was like, Hey man, let's not give bulletin board material to the other team.
41:58So we're going to give Mike Washington 25 touches in this game.
42:02And you get five. And I think message received to Ashton Gentry.
42:06Yeah, specifically first and second down. Mike Washington had 24 carries on first and second down.
42:11Ashton Gentry had one. Even if there's a reason for it that could be a very short-term thing, I just don't love
42:18that that's a thing that we're doing with Ashton Gentry here.
42:22That's not ideal. Speaking of the Raiders though, in this game, they played with two or more tight ends 81.7% of the time.
42:29And they're also the only team who, if you combine 11 and 10 personnel, like a lot of teams are like basing out of 11 personnel.
42:37So if you combine 11 personnel and 10 personnel, basically taking tight ends off the field, they're the only team that hasn't
42:44recorded at least 100 snaps in like 11 or 10 personnel.
42:48Brett, they're also the only team that hasn't recorded at least 75 snaps.
42:52So like, they're not even close. They're basically just...
42:55Halfway through the year. They're just in heavy personnel, which I love.
42:59Because they're looking at this roster and they're saying, this is who we are.
43:03We're not going to conform to, you know, some league trends of like going more wide and having three wide receivers.
43:10We don't have three wide receivers. We don't have three wide receivers we trust.
43:15But we have two tight ends. So guess what we're going to do?
43:19We're going to play to our strengths. Love to see it.
43:22I just love to see it from them. Aaron Glenn, man, not looking good, man.
43:27I mean, it just... Unfortunately, it always seems like something.
43:30Aaron Glenn, four and nine in one score games now over the last two years to the Jets head coach.
43:37And if it's a shootout, the defense lets them down.
43:40If neither team scores more than 20 and they lose, obviously the offense lets them down.
43:45It's just, it's always something that goes along. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
43:50From the jaws of victory. The Cleveland Browns to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
43:54Steelers picking up another dub here. Where do you want to start with this preview, Brad?
43:59Eight sacks. It's just incredible. This Steelers pass rush was all over Cleveland today.
44:04The last time they had this many sacks in a game, January 3rd, 2022.
44:08So the playoffs of the 2021 season. So five seasons ago, they had nine sacks also against the Browns.
44:14And I want to be very clear here because I think in some ways pressure can be an offensive line stat, but sacks can be a quarterback stat.
44:23You know, the offensive line will get blamed for the Steelers, you know, giving up or getting eight sacks in this game.
44:30But I went back and I watched all of those sacks.
44:34That was really more on Deshaun Watson than the offensive line.
44:37He was awful. Like just truly awful. Leaving his offensive line out to dry.
44:42There were throws, like easily makeable throws that a quarterback making a quarter billion dollars should be able to make.
44:48We're talking like a boundary hole shot against cover two.
44:52Not a far hatch hole shot. Like to the closer side of your field, a hole shot against cover two that is wide open.
44:59But Deshaun, for whatever reason, and this might be something that the Steelers have picked up on, when he has a zone
45:06defender looking at him, like just looking at him, he freezes.
45:10He just won't throw the ball because he doesn't want to throw a pick.
45:14But even if that zone defender is not in position to make a play on the ball, he will just freeze.
45:21And beyond that, I mean, his footwork was just terrible in this game.
45:25There was another sack he had where, for whatever reason, so he's in the gun, he does a one-step drop.
45:32And so it's like a quick game drop, but the routes haven't actually developed down the field.
45:37You're supposed to sink your feet to the actual route concept.
45:41Like your footwork and the route concept are supposed to be synced up to the point where you hit the top of
45:48your drop, and then you deliver the ball. But if you're doing quick game footwork, but the routes are developing as if
45:55it's going to be three-step or five-step, the routes aren't there, so you're just sitting still in the pocket.
46:01And when he sits still in the pocket because he's out of rhythm, because he's not throwing off of rhythm, well, then he just freezes again.
46:09And I want to be careful of the words that I choose here.
46:14To me, the Browns are probably a playoff team that doesn't have a playoff quarterback.
46:18And I don't know exactly what they're going to do this offseason because they've won enough games where they might be incentivized
46:26to try to run this back again. After watching today's film and how much damage he single-handedly did to this team, I'm
46:33questioning if he should even be the starter going forward.
46:36Because say what you want out of Shudra Sanders, he's not just going to stare at a zone defender and freeze and take eight sacks in a game.
46:45He's at least going to try to do something.
46:48He's going to try to throw the ball down the field.
46:51He's going to try to escape. He's not going to be a deer in a headlight for four straight quarters like Deshaun was in this game.
47:00Like, that was awful. It was unplayable. It was untenable.
47:03You cannot be making a quarter billion dollars and look like that.
47:07You just can't. So, I understand the temptation to try to run this back and keep it going.
47:12That was bad football. They cannot do this again.
47:15On the Steelers' side of things, that defensive line feels like it's playing as good as any defensive line in the NFL, to be honest with you.
47:2430% blitz rate and he had a 42% pressure rate.
47:27Only 5.4 missed tackle percentage. 33% run stuff rate at the line of scrimmage.
47:32I mean, run defense, pass rush. I think that this is becoming one of the better front sevens in the NFL.
47:39And I think that they're really cooking. And it complements the offense really well.
47:43We talk about complementary football all the time. I actually think that the Steelers are playing some really, really good complementary football.
47:50Because even when it's not perfect, like Aaron Rodgers said after the game, they can still end up winning football games because it's complementary there.
47:58Football's back. Hey, it's Drew Franklin from NFL Cover Zero.
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48:19I did have one of the more difficult questions, though.
48:22He sits next to me and he sees I'm on my computer and he goes, big sports fan.
48:28And I was like, yeah, actually. And he goes, what are you thinking about my Jaguars this year?
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48:45The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Atlanta Falcons, the Buccaneers, first team since 1974 to complete zero.
48:50Count them. Zero. Passes in a football game and still get a win.
48:54Brett, this is very therapeutic for me because when I was at the University of Florida, they lost a game to Georgia
49:02Southern at Florida in which Georgia Southern, shout out Jared McKinnon, completed zero passes.
49:06And now the team that I grew up rooting for gets a win in the NFL by completing zero passes.
49:13Full circle moment for me. But this one was obviously played in not ideal weather conditions.
49:18We saw that everywhere. But did you have a main takeaway in the rain here from this game?
49:23I mean, we thought last week and the run rate they had last week was going to be their magnum opus this year.
49:31Little did we know. It was an appetizer. It was an appetizer.
49:35That's what it was. I don't think it would have been possible to play a game like this, even in the weather that existed.
49:42And again, you're a Florida guy. You know when the rain comes down.
49:47You can't function. When the rain is coming down that heavy.
49:50Like they were mopping the field in the middle of the game, right?
49:54It was that kind of weather. And yet they still would not have been able to win a game in that style.
50:01Not completing a single pass. Running as well as they did.
50:05You have two running backs with 25 plus carries in this game.
50:09They would not have been able to win that way if Michael Penix did not throw four interceptions.
50:15Right? Baker Mayfield didn't have a completion and still had a better passer rating.
50:19That's the kind of performance we're talking about. Which is always very funny.
50:23But yes. Hilarious stat. Might be the stat of the week to me.
50:27And I know the easy way to hand wave it away is, well, yeah, weather.
50:32Of course he threw four picks. No, no, no, no, no, no.
50:36If you go back and you watch those picks, those were not weather related.
50:41Like maybe one of them. Yeah. Maybe. But a couple of them were bad.
50:45A couple of them were really bad. Like the Anzalone one, he just got got.
50:50His back was turned on playing. Which one? Which one?
50:53You got to be more specific. The first one.
50:56The first one. Right? That one he just got got.
50:59Kind of unfortunate. There was like an arm punt on a fourth down.
51:04Which in a better weather game, it would have been a field goal anyway.
51:08But they went for it because of the weather.
51:11And it was arm. Okay. Whatever. Fine. The last one.
51:14I want to highlight that one. It's switch verts.
51:17You're throwing the rail. The DB is staring at you.
51:20Like he is capped over the top of the route.
51:23Staring at you. Daring you to throw it. Meanwhile, you have a receiver on the divide route.
51:29Wide open for a touchdown. And you don't just turn your head 15 degrees to the left.
51:34That's on Michael Penix. The rain didn't make him throw that ball.
51:38He threw that ball. And threw a really, really bad interception.
51:42So it's not just weather. It's also Penix making bad decisions.
51:45And I don't know what he is. We're halfway through the year.
51:49And we just get these massive swings week to week with him.
51:53Yeah. And I just think it's more NFC South shenanigans.
51:56To be honest with you. Because for a couple of weeks.
52:00The Falcons looked by far the best team in the division.
52:03And then, yeah. The rain was an issue. But the Falcons had 7 or more defenders in the box.
52:0990.3% of the time. 47 out of 52 carries.
52:12When Irving or Gainwell was getting the ball. Yet they still had 10 explosive runs of 10 yards or more.
52:19They had negative 0.4 yards before contact per carry.
52:22And yet 347 yards after contact in this game.
52:25And 119 yards after missed tackles. I mean, this was just a bad performance for Atlanta.
52:30All around. Basically, outside of the Jesse Bates superhuman fumble at the goal line with Bucky Irving.
52:35There was nothing else that went well for the Atlanta Falcons in this game.
52:40And I was also selling the Buccaneers win short when it came to the history books.
52:45Because the 2026 Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the first team to win a game by double digits without completing a pass.
52:52Since the 1945 Steelers to beat the Chicago Cardinals by a score of 23-0 in week 8 of 1945.
52:58Everybody remembers that game. Everybody remembers where they were when that game happened.
53:02And you're going to remember this one too. The Indianapolis Colts and the Jacksonville Jaguars.
53:07About as competitive as you figured that it would be between one team that's unbelievably on a roll with Super Bowl aspirations.
53:14And might be in the driver's seat, to be honest with you, as the number one team in the NFL.
53:20Versus a team that could not be in more of a free fall here with the Indianapolis Colts.
53:26Who have already made what seems to be wholesale changes on their roster.
53:30And Brett, after this game, I have to think that some more is coming.
53:35What's the big takeaway here? Is it more of a Colts takeaway or a Jags takeaway?
53:40I could do Muay Thai against a gorilla and it would be more competitive than this game.
53:45Like, good God. This was bad. Incredible imagery. It was bad from the start.
53:50I mean, it was 21-0 and then they got a pick six.
53:54It's just horrible. And I'm not saying anything that Colts fans haven't already expressed in way more colorful language than I have.
54:01But this team has given up. They've flat out given up.
54:04You know, the fire sales started happening. The GM has been fired.
54:08They know where the season's going. I think even the coaching staff kind of sees where this is going.
54:14And everybody just gave up. And the Jags are already a great team to begin with.
54:19But if you are going into the game seemingly as dejected as the Colts were as an organization against arguably a juggernaut
54:27in Jacksonville, it's going to look like that. Also, side note, I do have a Jags note for this beyond just, wow, they're a good team.
54:35Those rivalry uniforms. Oh, so sick. We need to talk about those becoming like a mainstay.
54:40Dude, the Jags old school, the Jags like creative uniforms and then throwback uniforms are just a thing of beauty.
54:47Yes. Yes. It's beautiful. Beautiful stuff. Trevor Lawrence is also incredible in this game.
54:51I mean, three touchdowns, 210 yards, 153.3 pass rating on just 10 completions.
54:55I mean, it's one thing to be efficient. It's another thing to be explosive and efficient.
55:00Trevor Lawrence is absolutely dealing right now. This is the best version of him that we have ever seen.
55:06And that includes going back to his best when we saw him in college football at Clemson.
55:12The Colts season is completely over. We know that.
55:15Shane Steichen not putting Anthony Richardson in the game sooner basically shows me that like he knows that he is probably not
55:22going to be here very much longer. And he's like, nope, I'm going down on my sword.
55:27I don't care. I picked Daniel Jones. He's my starting quarterback.
55:31We're going to do it. And I know they put in Rachel Richardson at like the very end of the game, but
55:38there was ample runway for Richardson to get back to get into this game at a reasonable time.
55:44If you were thinking anywhere towards developing what might be a next option for you, a quarterback.
55:49And he just doesn't seem to be concerned with it because he continues to throw Jones out there and it continues to not look good.
55:57I mean, Jones had a 2.59 time to throw in this game.
56:01And yet the success rate was still a 32.4.
56:04You're getting rid of the ball almost as quick as you possibly can in a failing effort and you are not changing what you're doing.
56:12So it just feels like the whole Colts operation right now is dead men walking.
56:17The Los Angeles Chargers and the Los Angeles Rams.
56:20Yeah, they're doing so much better over there. They kind of have the same conversation, yeah, with the Chargers who, I mean,
56:27it's another win for the Rams here. Herbert is the only quarterback in the NFL that's thrown a pick in every single
56:34one of his team's games this year. It's seven games.
56:37Damn. I remain flabbergasted at what we are seeing here with Justin Herbert.
56:41And there have been absolutely valid criticisms of him in the past.
56:45He has never looked like this before. This offense has never looked like this before.
56:50Like they had their worst offensive performance this week coming off a bye.
56:54And their second worst offensive performance, at least if we're looking at EPA per play, was before the bye.
57:00So they're just deteriorating even more as the season goes on.
57:04They've gone 27 straight possessions without scoring a touchdown.
57:07October 11th, if you want to go by the calendar, is the last time they scored a touchdown.
57:13The only thing they've gotten since that date is field goals.
57:16They are 0-4 in the red zone, by the way.
57:19They have at least one turnover in every single game this season.
57:2317 total. Mind you, they've had their bye week and we're in week 8.
57:28So there's seven games with 17 turnovers. So they're averaging over two per game.
57:32And it's just untenable. And I understand, speaking of going down with the ship, that Harbaugh's like, yeah, you know, Mike's going to keep calling plays this year.
57:41But are either of them going to be there in 2027?
57:45At this point, I feel like the answer is no.
57:48Yeah, really quickly. The design run game is more of an issue, I think, than Justin Herbert even.
57:5418.2% success rate in the run game for the Chargers in this game.
57:58They started the game, Brett, with six straight passes.
58:01You know what happened? It was two, three and outs.
58:04They don't trust the run game. They have no answers.
58:07They have no game plan for it. And it's just, it's hard to think that it's going to get better.
58:14Sunday Night Football, Commanders. Got the big dub over the Philadelphia Eagles.
58:1827-10 was the final score in this one. Brett.
58:20More than two-thirds of Jaden Daniels' 217 passing yards came against man coverage in this game.
58:26Went 8-for-13. Career-high 148 passing yards and a touchdown against man coverage.
58:29Man, if you would have thought that something would have held up for the Eagles this season, it would have been their coverage, right?
58:37I mean, you got Quinone Mitchell. You got Cooper DeGene.
58:40I mean, you would have thought that... How talented they are.
58:44Right, right. And yet, that can't even go right for Philadelphia in what feels like a nightmare season for them.
58:50And when the Commanders fans and the Commanders just overall just really needed.
58:55Thoughts on this game? So, first of all, good for the Commanders.
58:58They absolutely needed this one. Really, everybody in the building needed this one.
59:03My second thought is, because I don't necessarily think the Commanders are a powerhouse in their own right.
59:08And they still dominated the Eagles in this game.
59:11How many teams in the NFC could the Eagles beat right now?
59:15Is it less than three? I think it might be.
59:18Are they the worst team in the conference? I think by default, it's four minimum.
59:23Because you can always lose, or you can always beat any NFC South team at any given week.
59:29Sometimes you don't even have to complete passes. No matter what.
59:33So, I think it's four at a... Tanner McKee, you too could not complete a pass and beat the Atlanta Falcons.
59:39I think it's four at a minimum, but I don't think it's much more than four.
59:44Oh, man. Would they win the NFC South? Brother, does anybody really win the NFC South?
59:50You survive. Yeah, you just survive to next season is really what happens.
59:54So, really quickly, I feel like I get the vibe that the Eagles are in no way going to be sellers at the trade deadline.
60:02Do you feel like that's a good idea for them?
60:05I would have to double-check their contracts, but because they love Void years so much, I'm not sure if they can.
60:12Yeah, great point. Great point. Who can they trade without costing themselves money?
60:16I'm not sure if that... I'd have to double-check, but of all their big contracts, I don't think any of them are really movable.
60:24That's a great point. That's a good point. And as a tangent, as a side note, the reason why they structure...
60:30For the people that haven't followed along for what the Eagles do, the reason why they structure their contracts that way, by
60:38the way, is because all of them are essentially hitting in 2029, 2030.
60:42And they expect there to be a very large jump in the cap by them.
60:47In the cap space, right. For business reasons I won't even get into now.
60:51But they were planning on this core being together and competing.
60:55For a long time. This was not what they thought was going to happen.
60:59Yeah. And unfortunately, haven't scored over 21 points during their six-game losing streak.
61:03Not ideal. Last game that we're talking about here is the New England Patriots and the Miami Dolphins.
61:09Closer on the scoreboard than, to be honest with you, I feel like it really was.
61:1424-19 was the final score here in this game.
61:17But, Brett, I really was never worried at any time that the Patriots weren't going to win this game.
61:23Drake May is so good right now. And all of the demons that he had at the beginning of the year to start the year.
61:31Remember, we talked about, like, well, you know, when he holds onto the ball for over two and a half seconds or
61:38three seconds, he's in his head, he's panicking, and then he's turning it over.
61:43That does not exist for him anymore. And we've got multiple weeks where he has stacked that on top of each other.
61:50He was 11 for 15 on passes of more than two and a half of a time to throw average.
61:56I feel like the defensive and offensive lines are playing really well for the Patriots in this game.
62:02May, longest streak with three plus total TDs in Patriots history.
62:06He's got five. Tom Brady's obviously got the lead with ten.
62:09But those ten came on Tom Brady's MVP season in 2007.
62:13So, Drake May is halfway there, and it is currently active for him.
62:17I just, I have so much faith in Drake May right now.
62:21He is just playing the quarterback position at such a high level.
62:25And I don't think the score appropriately reflects how in control he was in this game.
62:30Because I thought he was fantastic. Hell, halfway through the game, they were down 13-3.
62:35And I still felt like, yeah, they're probably fine.
62:38I'm with you. I'm with you. And that was correct, by the way.
62:42Because it only, it ended 24-19. Again, starting out 13-3.
62:45Ended 24-19 in favor of the Patriots. And that was with the Dolphins scoring, you know, a touchdown in the closing minutes.
62:52It was a great ball, by the way, and a great route by Coleman.
62:57But it was kind of immaterial to the actual result of the game.
63:01In fact, if we're looking at the live win probabilities, it was 98% Patriots before that play.
63:06And, you know, it was 99% Patriots after that because it was just an onside kick.
63:11But they were not really threatened in this game, even while being down 10 points.
63:16Just because of the talent advantage that New England had in this game.
63:20The quarterback advantage that New England had in this game.
63:24And while I do think Miami's future is very bright, they have a lot of young talent.
63:29Like, a lot of young, young talent. And they're just a year away from being a year away.
63:35And it kind of is what it is. I think Dolphins fans knew what this season was going to be going into it.
63:42And they are trusting the process. All right, there we go.
63:46Almost all of Week 8 in the book. Still got Monday Night Football.
63:50But, man, almost halfway through the 2026 season. It's been quite the ride.
63:54And we know that the second half of the season coming up is going to be even better down the stretch.
64:01For all the NGS people who got us the great stats for this show.
64:05For all the production people putting it on. For Brett Coleman, I'm Trevor Sikama saying thank you so much for watching.
64:12We'll see you guys on the next episode on Friday.
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