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0:11Not anymore. Coming up on the NFL: The Insiders, why and how the Bears went all in for Jeffrey Simmons.
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0:25We have an update from Baltimore and we preview the best divisional schedule of the season so far.
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0:35It's Week 8. Happy Week 8 everybody. From our studios in Los Angeles, hi there.
0:40I'm Andrew Siciliano. Lance Zierlein coming up quickly, shortly with a TNF preview.
0:44Who is up and who is down at Lambeau?
0:47We begin, however, as we always do with our headlines.
0:50What is news to me? Hey, we had a trade this morning that makes you say, wow, out loud.
0:57That's what I did. Wow. This is one of those deals.
1:00Jeffrey Simmons and a five to the Bears for two ones and a four.
1:05Simmons is the first defensive tackle in the common draft era traded for two first round picks.
1:11Well, I think that speaks to Jeff, who he is as a player, first and foremost.
1:16And it probably would have had to take a deal like this to do this move.
1:21And no one's ever came to us with this.
1:24Like I said, I've probably gotten 50 phone calls since I've been here and Jeff in the spring, the summer, the season.
1:31And it never crossed my mind once. But like I said, I have a relationship with with Ryan Poles and he just
1:39came out and gave me the offer. And he said, think about it.
1:43And we did. And they made the trade this morning.
1:46Hey, Lance Zierlein. So Ryan Poles called last night, made a bit offer.
1:51And Mike Garafolo said, I can't refuse it from a Bears perspective.
1:55They're five and two huge game in Seattle and primetime on Monday night.
1:59This is truly them going all in. Is it enough?
2:02Chips are in the middle of the table right now for Ryan Poles.
2:06It's a full push. And why not? I mean, I think people have been sleeping on the Bears for far too long
2:14before the season started and even during this season.
2:17They were a legitimate Super Bowl contender in the NFC.
2:20And one of the things missing is that, you know, you want the spine to be a little firmer in the middle.
2:27And that's what they just got with Simmons. You give up two first rounds.
2:32Everyone panics up. Oh, it's two first rounds. It's two first rounds.
2:36Let me tell you, the 28th pick is where the Bears sit right now.
2:41The last four 28 picks, Caleb Lomu, Tyleek Williams, Xavier Worthy and Miles Murphy.
2:45You could pick three of those guys together and have them on.
2:49They wouldn't make the impact of Simmons. Jeffrey Simmons is just really impactful, not just against the run, but also in terms
2:56of his ability to threaten the pocket. He gives your defense more swagger.
3:01They still need a little more rush off the edge.
3:04But to me, this move puts the Chicago Bears in clear win-now territory and a chance to compete for a Super Bowl appearance coming out of the NFC.
3:13I remember sitting at the combine in Indy two off seasons ago and every Bears fan wanted them to send two number
3:21ones to the Browns for Myles Garrett. They didn't do that.
3:24Now they do it for Jeffrey Simmons. Dennis Allen plays a lot of man behind and push the pocket.
3:31I absolutely love it. Now, the other side of things here, the Titans side, Cam Ward, a lot of people think they're
3:38going to tear the entire thing down now. Do you buy that real quick?
3:43Well, you know, I'm already doing some homework on my NFL draft because that's what I do for NFL.com.
3:49And I don't know that this is going to be the quarterback draft.
3:53I don't want to spoil it. I don't know if you want any spoilers for the 2027 draft, but this may not
4:00be the draft where you go all in on a quarterback.
4:04So you do have a chance to take one if you want, but I don't think this is the end for Cam Ward.
4:12I think it's really all about rebuilding a roster.
4:15I should say building the roster out. It's like baseball.
4:18You move on from your best assets. You try to hit it big in the draft and the more swings you have,
4:25the better chance you have at building a roster.
4:28And they're just trying to add swings with as many draft picks as possible.
4:33Titans, one of three teams with multiple ones next year.
4:36Let's move on to the deals that have already been made earlier in the week, including the two that the Colts made in Indianapolis.
4:44We heard from Jonathan Taylor today for the very first time since Quentin Nelson was traded and since DeForest Buckner was traded.
4:51As we sit here right now at 704 Eastern Time, Taylor is still a Colt.
4:56I haven't heard anything and I can't control that.
4:59Obviously, like you guys know that I'm always proud to wear the horseshoe, proud to be here.
5:05And similar to Quentin and Buck, they were proud to wear the horseshoe.
5:09They were proud to be here. But obviously, circumstances may cause otherwise.
5:13So hopefully that day may not come. But I can't control that.
5:17Only that I can control is rallying these guys in the locker room, helping us put together a great plan and executing a great plan for Jacksonville.
5:26Because like I said, it's a division game. They're licking their chops right now.
5:31They think they're going to kick us while we're down.
5:34And that has to be the point of emphasis.
5:37Taylor and the Colts get the Jaguars this week.
5:40Quentin Nelson, his former teammate and the Seahawks get, as mentioned, the Bears on Monday night.
5:45How about Nelson and Jeffrey Simmons lining up across from each other in primetime?
5:50Nelson met the media in Seattle today for the first time after eight and a half years in Indy.
5:56It was like a little bittersweet. Formed a lot of great relationships in Indy.
6:01Great community there. But definitely excited for this next chapter.
6:04Being here in Seattle. I mean, just driving in and then the couple times I've played here.
6:10It's a beautiful state. A really cool city. All the nature here is sick.
6:15And then getting to meet some of the guys.
6:17Everyone's been super welcoming already. And the coaches as well.
6:21So, and everyone. It's a family here. The equipment, the trainers.
6:24It's been a great day and a half so far.
6:28Love that. By the way, I agree with everything Quentin Nelson just said.
6:32The nature there is sick. Seattle is beautiful. So too is Lambeau in primetime.
6:37Bryce Young and the Panthers won there last year.
6:40Not in primetime in an afternoon game. They're going to try to do it again tonight.
6:45It's time for a primetime preview. We are presented here.
6:48Our primetime preview by Nationwide Lance is back with us.
6:52The Panthers are hard to figure out. They started so well.
6:55They came out of the Bible last week and they got boat raced.
7:00They're the only team of the NFL Lance to win a game by 30 this year and then lose a game by 30.
7:07What gives for Bryce and the Panthers this evening?
7:10Well, they were sick last week, but not in the Quentin Nelson good kind of way.
7:15The offense was very sick and they were blown completely off the face of the map last week.
7:21And they really have to get it together. You know, you got to run the football a little bit to get Bryce
7:29Young to take some pressure off Bryce Young. So Hubbard is going to be important.
7:34The running game in general is going to be important for Carolina for Carolina.
7:38You really can't afford to have another bad performance because that could really stun the confidence of a team that got off to a fun start.
7:47I mean, they were very competitive, but they're not so competitive against the run.
7:52And I think that's one of the real problems is what can the Panthers do to control this game offensively?
7:58That's a big question mark in today's game. The Packers offensively do have Matthew Golden up.
8:03He had been questionable with foot and ankle injuries.
8:06They're taking on, however, if you look at the run game, the number 32 run defense in the NFL tonight.
8:13Well, it's movable object. It's what resistible force versus movable object.
8:17I mean, it's the Packers are averaging 59 yards a game.
8:20It's the worst in their history on the ground.
8:23But Josh Jacobs is back. We'll see what difference Josh Jacobs can make.
8:28I think he can make a big difference because he's able to create with his vision.
8:33He can create with wiggle. He can create with power.
8:36And I think that's going to make a big difference compared to what the Packers had seen previously.
8:42And let's face it, the worst defense in the league against the run, as you referenced, is the Carolina Panthers.
8:49So they can get it started. But really, the bread and butter here for the Green Bay Packers, yeah, you want to run the ball better.
8:57But it's been Watson and Golden. The two wide receivers have been terrific.
9:02They have really helped Jordan Love along to have a strong year, despite having subpar offensive line play and protection at times.
9:09Golden and Watson have combined already for more catches, more yards, more touchdowns than they did for all of last year.
9:16So these are, they're just one yard behind the duo of Pickens and Lamb in terms of the most prolific, at least
9:23by yards, the most prolific wide receiver combination in the league.
9:27And I think we'll see them go off again this week.
9:31And Packers are four and three. That is good for last in the NFC North somehow.
9:36Carolina is three and three. That leads the NFC South to totally different divisions.
9:40All right. This game should be good. Matter of fact, I don't care who plays quarterback for the Ravens.
9:47It should be great. We got the bills. We got the Ravens in Buffalo coming up on Sunday.
9:53When last they met week one a year ago, you had that 81 point total Sunday night.
9:58Classic Ravens blew that massive lead. Lamar Jackson was a full participant again today in practice.
10:04So you think he's back after missing the last three games head to head to the best quarterbacks of our generation.
10:11Let's assume Lance, it is Lamar on Sunday. Dangerous to assume, but I think it's going to happen.
10:17What do you expect if we have these two guys atop the marquee?
10:21Listen, even if Lamar makes it back and he hasn't played for a while, the Buffalo defense has been problematic this year.
10:28And Josh Allen, he's an MVP caliber. He's having another MVP caliber season this year.
10:33He always can put the team on his back.
10:36And he may have to do it again because the defensively they're just not consistent enough.
10:41And Lamar Jackson has weapons. We know that. We know they can run the football, control the tempo of the game with
10:49the big running back, with Derrick Henry. And Lamar, with the weapons he has, yeah, he may be a little rusty, but
10:56I still think he'll be able to move it through the air.
11:00The last two games have been high scoring affairs, but Buffalo Bills have won four of the last five in these matchups.
11:07And Josh Allen, it doesn't look like the Ravens are really able to stop him.
11:12And they did early on in those matchups. It's been much, much more difficult for them over the last four or five.
11:19So I think it's going to be a high scoring game.
11:23I like the Bills in this game, but I do think that Josh is going to have to have a strong performance
11:30because I don't think the Bills defense can be counted on in this matchup.
11:35Good injury news here for the Bills today. Ed Oliver back on the practice field, a full participant there on the Bills defensive line.
11:43Thank you, Lance. Lance coming right back. In the meantime, we give you this news.
11:48The football world, really both the NFL and college, mourning the loss of former Falcons, Hawaii and SMU head coach June Jones this evening.
11:56Few coached the run and shoot. Few got better numbers out of quarterbacks.
12:00Better than June Jones, who also played quarterback. He started five games for the Falcons in the late 70s.
12:07We lost June Jones today. He was 73 years old.
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13:17Look at this divisional schedule this week. I mean, how good is this?
13:22Even the Falcons and the Bucs, they both are below 500.
13:25That is a legitimate game in the NFC South where, say, if the Panthers lose tonight, the Falcons can move into first.
13:33What a great, great schedule. Let's focus on the game at the top because that game is delicious.
13:39The Vikings have won 11 in a row. They are 6-0, but they have scored only nine offensive touchdowns.
13:45That is it in six games. Seventy-five players have more targets this year.
13:49And I'm not just talking fantasy. I'm talking like they need to score more points than Justin Jefferson.
13:55I think as far as getting involved, everybody wants to get just the ball.
14:00You know, he is who he is. He always causes a lot of, you know, guys coming to attention.
14:06So, you know, we got to pick and choose.
14:09You know what I mean? So, I know, you know, he's not.
14:13He's an unselfish guy. He's a team guy. We're winning.
14:16And that's all he cares about. You know, but at the end of the day, obviously, everybody wants to get on the ball.
14:24And it will happen. Also will happen at the same time.
14:28Falcons and the Bucceteers. Atlanta has mentioned one game back in the loss column behind Carolina for now.
14:34With Michael Panix at quarterback, he's dealing. The Falcons are averaging 31 points a game.
14:39That comes with the experience, you know, time on task and stuff like that.
14:43You know, so, you know, you always build confidence as time goes on.
14:47You know, the first time you do something, you know, you got to get used to it.
14:53You know, but that's no excuse for, you know, however it was then.
14:57You know, when you get into this role and you're playing at the professional level, it's a lot of high expectations.
15:04And, you know, everybody that comes into this role, they want to meet those.
15:09You know, but for me, I just want to, you know, be the best version of myself I can each and every day.
15:17And like I said, with time, it's going to come with more confidence and, you know, reps and stuff like that.
15:24Lance, there are lines back with us here on the NFL report.
15:28Such good divisional games, including that Panix Falcons Buccaneers game.
15:31If we're ranking most intriguing, Lance, this one's number three for you.
15:35It's number three, but it's intriguing nonetheless, because I think it's a really interesting battle of who can take away what.
15:42And let's face it, Michael Panix has been terrific since he's come back.
15:46And as you know, two time coach of the year, Kevin Stefanski would come over from the Browns.
15:52His offense can be quarterback friendly when he has the right quarterback.
15:56And Tommy Reese is a very underrated offensive mind.
15:59Those guys have run the ball well, obviously, with Bijan Robinson.
16:03He's number one in the league. So it makes life easier.
16:06That levels passing attack makes life easier for Michael Panix.
16:10And he's been able to just play with confidence, play with poise.
16:14And he's got some really good targets like Drake London and Kyle Pitts.
16:18And of course, Bijan is there to take away, you know, a lot of the heavy lifting.
16:23However, Tampa Bay allows only 3.2 yards per game.
16:26So if you can take that away, the running game, and then your second in the league in takeaways, the Tampa Bay
16:34Bucs, you might be able to force Michael Panix into some of those mistakes.
16:38I would bet against that though, because I think right now, Panix and the Falcons are playing really underrated offensive football.
16:45Some of the best offensive football in the league right now.
16:49So I don't know if it continues to the same level, but I think they are going to have a strong performance, a stronger performance against the Bucs.
16:58It won't be easy, but I have some confidence in them this week.
17:03This is a Baker revenge tour kind of season.
17:06Lost to the Browns week two. Last week stomped on the Panthers.
17:10This week it's Kevin Stavansky and the Falcons. Speaking of the Browns, they have a divisional rematch coming up on Sunday.
17:16This week the game's in Pittsburgh. Back in week four, the game was in Cleveland where the Browns defense got after Aaron Rodgers.
17:24They sacked him five times. After that game, Jared Verse, and the game was chippy during the game, called the Steelers O-line out and called them dirty.
17:33I'm just going in there ready to dominate. Obviously, I've been waiting for this one for a good little bit, but you
17:40know, the whole bulletin board material and thing like that, I'm just ready to go get put them hands on them.
17:47Just gonna keep it simple like that. Did you see Cam Hayward's comments the other day about what you would set out to be?
17:55I'm not worried about Cam. I'm not worried about that O-line.
17:59I'm not worried about nobody they got on their team.
18:02We out there to go dominate. Okay, so the Browns have lost 22 consecutive regular season games in Pittsburgh.
18:08I think everyone knows that. The Browns have not swept the Steelers since 1988.
18:13Lance, I was 14. Who framed Roger Rabbit and Die Hard and Nakatomi Plaza?
18:18It is a Christmas movie. We're huge in theaters.
18:21The quarterback that day, well, when they won in Pittsburgh, was Mike Pagel.
18:25The Browns won later in Cleveland with Bernie Kosar.
18:28I know how I feel about this game. Lance, how do you feel?
18:32Well, look, I mean, they've been tied or behind in all.
18:36I'm talking about the Browns, the new cardiac kids.
18:39They've been tied or behind in all seven games this year.
18:43They are five and two in those seven games.
18:46Deshaun Watson plays one kind of football the first three quarters, and then he turns into a Superman with a 125 quarterback rating in the fourth quarter.
18:54A ton of fourth quarter comebacks. But listen, I mean, they're just filled with red in the offensive columns.
19:01We get the research notebook and the research that our research department comes up with.
19:06All these offensive stats. Blood red in the Cleveland side.
19:09And so, I don't know, it feels like paper clips and duct tape trying to keep it together offensively.
19:15And I just don't know if that can work in Pittsburgh.
19:19But I keep saying that every week. And here are the Brownies, you know, making Todd Monken look like offensive, like the coach of the year, really.
19:28So, but the Pittsburgh Steelers can rush the quarterback.
19:31Neither of these teams really protect all that well.
19:34But Deshaun has a tendency to hang on to the ball.
19:38You've got big mismatches on the edges with the Steelers rush.
19:41And they can, at the end of the day, they can just really run the ball effectively.
19:47Rico Dowdle is back for this game. He wasn't there for the first loss, 27-24, that the Browns won.
19:53So, the combination of Warren and Dowdle, Jeremy Bernard has developed a nice rapport with Aaron Rodgers.
19:59I just think they're the more balanced team. And maybe the paper clips and the duct tape come unfastened in this one for Deshaun and that offense.
20:08But, hey, I keep saying that. And they keep finding ways to win in the fourth quarter.
20:13What if I told you real quick that Deshaun threw for 200 yards in the first half last week?
20:20Would you change your mind? No. Okay. But I thought about it.
20:24You made me think about it briefly. Let's get to the AFC West.
20:28Because we have a rematch there as well. Chiefs Broncos also a rematch.
20:32They played back in week one. Kenneth Walker ran all over the Broncos.
20:36Last week, however, KC went to Seattle. And Pat Mahomes and the boys lost for the first time this year.
20:43I felt like in the first half especially, I didn't play well.
20:47My feet weren't in the right spots or they were rushed.
20:51And I wasn't given chances in the pocket to kind of make those plays happen.
20:56And that kind of spiraled into the rest of the game.
20:59And you can't let a defense like that kind of get that momentum going.
21:04And that's stuff I have to be better at, especially with the team that we're running up against this week.
21:11Kind of very similar. Great defense. Great D-line. Linebackers and secondary.
21:14And so it will be a great opportunity for us to kind of show up and see how we respond.
21:21How do you think they respond? Well, you know, we talked about the Seattle-KCity matchup last week.
21:26It was a great matchup between the quarterback Mahomes and Andy Reid and Mike McDonald.
21:31And we saw it was a battle of styles and McDonald and Seattle was able to really impose their will.
21:38Now you look at this matchup and it kind of flips.
21:42It's going to be Steve Spagnuolo versus Bo Nix.
21:45You know, I understand Denver has won three in a row and it's five and two, but they're another team.
21:51They're five and two and they're 30th in the league this year with total yardage.
21:56It just has not materialized consistently offensively. If they get behind, the real key here is going to be Sean Payton managing
22:04down and distance early in the drives. Because if they get behind the sticks and Spags can really cut loose from a
22:11pass rush standpoint against Nix, Nix is one of the worst in the league at handling pressure as a quarterback.
22:17So that's a big, big battle. That's a big matchup in this one.
22:22The other big matchup, frankly, is going to be the run defense of Denver against Kenneth Walker.
22:27Walker started off great, but really was silenced last week by Seattle.
22:31We'll see if Denver goes to school on some of what Seattle did defensively to slow down Walker.
22:37But if Walker can get going, I like Denver actually.
22:41I rather, I like Kansas City to pull off the win here.
22:45I'm just not sure that this is a great matchup for Bo Nix versus Spagnuolo on that defense right now.
22:51If, however, Denver and Bo Nix can get a victory, your Broncos move into first at six and two in the AFC
22:59West and Kansas City will fall to five and two.
23:02Lance Zerline, appreciate you, my friend. Coming up, back to Lambeau.
23:05Tucker Craft and the Packers get ready to try to even things with the Panthers, who won there at Lambeau a year ago.
23:13It is week eight, everybody. You're watching the NFL Report.
23:16It's week eight. It's week eight. It's week eight.
23:19Bryce Young trying to become the first quarterback in NFL history to open 2-0 as the road QB at Lambeau Field.
23:26Here come the Packers. Prime time. Lambeau does not get much better than that.
23:31Let's get some quick hits here on the NFL Report.
23:34AJ Brown not practicing today. They are calling it a knee issue.
23:38Not good. Remember, he was on IR with an ankle issue.
23:42The Patriots are on the road this week in Miami to face the Dolphins.
23:47Jadarian Price not yet activated, but he was designated for return.
23:50He's been out a month. The rookie running back there for the Seahawks.
23:54Carnell Tate, speaking of rookies, did not practice today in Nashville.
23:58He has a shoulder injury. Had a nice game last week, but dove for a ball late in the fourth quarter and got up slowly.
24:06Good news in Cincinnati. Jamar Chase back on the practice field today.
24:10He practiced in full for the Bengals after sitting out yesterday with an ankle injury.
24:15Your Cincinnati Bengals this week at home facing the Tennessee Titans.
24:19The Chargers meantime are on the road playing the Rams.
24:22Yes, it's a road game in their own building.
24:25Mike McDaniel is still the offensive coordinator. Jim Harbaugh sticking with him after the bye.
24:30You can't have your cake and eat it too.
24:33Incredibly fun job. A ton of responsibility. And in this league, you have to produce results or there's going to be heat.
24:41So I don't expect anything else. What I spend my time on, instead of thinking about what's being said, I think my
24:48time is best used to focus on the opponent, focus on us and find ways that we can improve and nothing else.
24:55McDaniel said he had a four hour meeting. You can't film with Mike McDaniel.
25:00I could watch this for four hours. This is earlier today in Berea.
25:04This is at the Browns building. That's Denzel Boston on the left and the rookie Casey Concepcion on the right.
25:11They are shadow boxing in the locker room in front of the media there before press conferences.
25:16Did you watch hard knocks at all this past season?
25:20The Seahawks, they had a whole thing on hard knocks.
25:23The Seahawks love shadow boxing. Now, I don't know if Casey and Denzel were copying the Seahawks.
25:29I don't fully get the shadow boxing thing, but if they like it, that's fun.
25:34They're nearly inseparable off the field, do everything in the community.
25:37And evidently, they shadow box together as well. One other note here about that Browns and Steelers game.
25:43The last time I mentioned the Browns have swept the Steelers was back in 1988.
25:48There is only one player on either team's active roster that was alive in 1988.
25:53That would be Aaron Rodgers. He was five years old.
25:56He is also the oldest active player in the National Football League.
26:00That's it for me this week. I'm Andrew Siciliano.
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