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NFL Pro Week 8 Preview

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48 min
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Oct 30, 2026
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Fri, October 30, 2026
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Jared GoffLamar JacksonZay FlowersAaron RodgersAmon-Ra St. BrownBo NixDarnell WashingtonDerrick HenryDeshaun WatsonDK MetcalfJameson WilliamsJaylen SmithJaylen WarrenJosh Allen
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Aaron Rodgers

PositiveRole43:00

Rodgers is protected by the Steelers' elite offensive line (4th in pressure rate allowed at 30.8%), which opens up holes for the run game and keeps him clean in the pocket. The source notes the Steelers have expanded the passing game recently to Jeremy Bernard, DK Metcalf, and Darnell Washington, suggesting Rodgers has multiple weapons and a stable platform to operate from.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

PositiveRole23:02

St. Brown is part of Goff's elite middle-field connection; the source highlights his ability to always be in the right spot at the exact right time, working in-breaking routes and crossing concepts. Against Green Bay's elite in-breaking route defense, St. Brown benefited from Goff's ability to more than double the average yards per attempt on these routes, demonstrating the chemistry and timing between quarterback and receiver.

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Bo Nix

PositiveProjection12:00

Nix struggled significantly against the Chiefs' man coverage in Week 1, completing just 41.3% of passes with -0.4 EPA per dropback. While he averages 11.7 air yards per attempt against man (most in NFL), he is not completing the ball down the field effectively. His comfort zone is targeting wide-open receivers: he has an 11.5% tight window throw rate (sixth lowest in NFL), 50.9% open target rate (sixth highest), and 31.2% wide-open target rate (third highest). The source notes he lacks confidence and consistency in tight windows required for man coverage, preferring to target receivers sitting in gaps between zone defenders. Against the Chiefs' defense in Week 8, this limitation could be exploited.

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Darnell Washington

PositiveRole45:00

Washington is part of the Steelers' recently expanded passing game, which has been activated over the last couple of weeks alongside Jeremy Bernard and DK Metcalf, giving Rodgers multiple receiving options and suggesting increased offensive versatility and target opportunities.

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Derrick Henry

NegativeUsage40:26

Henry was a freight train weeks 5–7 but has seen a sharp decline in weeks 8+; teams are hitting him in the backfield way more often recently, tanking the Ravens' run game. Zone runs are his bread and butter (true for a decade), but weeks 1–4 showed 5.4 yards per carry, 54% success rate, and 16% explosive rate on zone runs. Without that run game as a stabilizing presence, the Ravens' offensive efficiency is compromised, especially with Huntley in the lineup drawing defensive focus.

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Deshaun Watson

NegativeProjection45:00

The Steelers' elite run defense (39.4% success rate allowed, 0.8 yards before contact per attempt, 48.2% hit rate at line—2nd only to Kansas City) will force the Browns to rely heavily on Watson's passing game. The source expects a low-scoring, defensive slugfest that will put more on Watson's plate in a single game than the Browns have asked of him all season, suggesting increased pressure and fewer easy scoring opportunities.

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DK Metcalf

PositiveRole45:00

Metcalf is part of the Steelers' recently expanded passing game, which has been activated over the last couple of weeks alongside Jeremy Bernard and Darnell Washington, giving Rodgers multiple receiving options and suggesting increased offensive versatility and target opportunities.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveRole23:02

Williams is part of Goff's elite middle-field connection; the source highlights his ability to always be in the right spot at the exact right time, working in-breaking routes and crossing concepts. Against Green Bay's elite in-breaking route defense, Williams benefited from Goff's ability to more than double the average yards per attempt on these routes, demonstrating the chemistry and timing between quarterback and receiver.

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Jared Goff

PositiveProjection17:00

The source identifies Goff as underrated at this point in the season, noting this assessment comes from someone who has historically been skeptical of Goff. In preseason quarterback rankings, the source has ranked Goff between 13th and 18th, questioning his role in the offense. However, the source now suggests Goff deserves higher regard, setting up a deeper analysis of his performance in the Lions-Vikings Week 8 matchup.

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PositiveProjection20:27

Goff is bringing the most value the source has seen from him in a long time; this season represents one of the better versions of Goff under pressure ever, with an 89.3% passer rating (fourth highest in NFL under pressure), 39.2% success rate (fourth highest in NFL), and negative 0.15 EPA per drop back (eighth best in NFL). The source, a longtime Goff skeptic who previously ranked him 13–18 among quarterbacks, now sees him as uniquely equipped to handle Brian Flores' defensive scheme and potentially deserving of MVP consideration given his 14 touchdowns and zero interceptions.

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PositiveRole23:02

Goff's ability to work the middle of the field is exceptional; last week against Green Bay (arguably the best defense at eliminating in-breaking routes), he more than doubled the average yards per attempt on in-breaking routes that Green Bay had allowed all season. His connection with Amon Ra St. Brown, T.J. Hockenson, and Jameson Williams creates a dynamic where receivers are always in the right spot at the right time, making the offense nearly impossible to defend. Against Flores' quarters coverage (36.7% with five-man rush, over triple the NFL average), Goff's knowledge of coverage structures and timing allows him to attack the middle of the field where Flores' linebackers (Blake Cashman, Eric Wilson) must cover without a seventh defender.

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PositiveMatchup27:45

Goff's historical success against Brian Flores' Vikings defense is notable: from 2023–2024, Detroit won four games against Minnesota when Goff faced a 64.5% blitz rate, but lost both games when facing a 44.7% blitz rate. This suggests Flores has adjusted his strategy, moving from high-volume blitzing to more calculated, selective blitzing. When not blitzed last season, Goff completed over 80% of passes for 339 yards, 9.2 yards per attempt, three touchdowns, and zero interceptions; when blitzed, he had 44.8% completion, 4.9 yards per attempt, zero touchdowns, and two interceptions. Goff is one of the few quarterbacks (alongside Jordan Love) who has seen Flores' scheme most frequently and is uniquely equipped to exploit the middle of the field, which is the only way to beat this defense.

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Jaylen Smith

PositiveProjection10:00

JSN leads the NFL in receiving yards (867) with 257 yards over expected (most in NFL) and 267 yards after catch. He has a 23.3% success rate per route (highest in NFL), 54.1 total EPA (most since 2019, second most in NGS era through seven weeks), 20 explosive receptions (most in NFL), and leads the NFL as an isolated receiver with 214 receiving yards. The source notes he is playing "ethical football" and "ethical hoops," isolated to one side with the ball fed to him anytime possible. Despite concerns about predictability when JSN is the primary weapon, the source acknowledges "there have been certainly times already where, yeah, that's good enough."

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveUsage43:00

Warren is a centerpiece of the Steelers' elite offensive line and run game combination. He has 36 missed tackles forced from scrimmage (4th most), 354 yards after missed tackles from scrimmage (most in NFL), and 0.13 EPA per touch (4th most among RBs with 50+ touches). When given a hole by the Steelers' top-5 offensive line (30.8% pressure rate allowed, 4th best), Warren converts at an elite rate, making the Steelers' ground game one of the most difficult combinations to defend in the league.

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Josh Allen

PositiveRole36:00

Allen's role in the Bills offense is as a force multiplier; when the Bills establish their dominant ground game (running north-south between the tackles with their monstrously large offensive line), it enables Allen to be even more effective. The Bills get 5.4 yards per carry on man concepts (fourth best in NFL) and 5.4 yards per carry on duo concepts (fourth best in NFL), which sets up their play-action pass game and explosive rates. The Ravens' defensive strategy will be to make every third down really long and force Allen to be a superhero as much as possible, as the Ravens run defense allows only 2.6 yards per carry on man concepts (fourth fewest in NFL) and 3.2 yards per carry on duo (eighth fewest in NFL).

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Kenneth Walker III

NegativeMatchup5:00

Walker struggled significantly against the Seahawks' elite run defense in Week 7, recording 14 carries with minimal production. The source notes the Seahawks deployed Nicky Manwari in base and 5-2 formations on 4 of 14 runs to stack the line and prevent outside zone concepts. Against Chicago in Week 8, Walker faces a similar challenge: the Seahawks have allowed the fewest rush yards over expected, fourth fewest yards per carry, and sixth fewest success rate rushing in the NFL, while the Bears lead the league in outside zone carries (103) and explosive rushing plays (13). This is described as "the unstoppable force versus the immovable object."

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Lamar Jackson

NegativeInjury35:08

Lamar Jackson did not play last week against the Cincinnati Bengals but appeared close to returning; the source is operating under the assumption that Jackson is playing this week against the Bills, with decent confidence based on his status the previous week.

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NegativeProjection40:41

The source expresses deep worry about the Ravens' ability to keep pace with the Bills offense if they cannot establish the ground game; with Huntley in the lineup and Henry's efficiency declining, the source questions whether Lamar alone is enough to beat a high-powered Bills offense, suggesting the Ravens' passing game may be overextended without run support.

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Sam Darnold

NegativeProjection8:00

Darnold's production has declined compared to the previous two seasons. The source identifies a critical split in his performance: on quick throws (under 2.5 seconds), he has a 105.9 passer rating, but on in-rhythm throws (2.5-4 seconds), his rating drops to 68.7. In Week 7 against Kansas City, his average time to throw was 2.45 seconds (his second quickest game in his career), indicating the Seahawks' defense may force him into extended decision-making. The source suggests Chicago should avoid blitzing excessively and instead make Darnold work through progressions, as he struggles when forced to scan multiple options and compress the pocket.

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T.J. Hockenson

PositiveRole23:02

Hockenson is part of Goff's elite middle-field connection; the source highlights his ability to always be in the right spot at the exact right time, working in-breaking routes and crossing concepts. Against Green Bay's elite in-breaking route defense, Hockenson benefited from Goff's ability to more than double the average yards per attempt on these routes, demonstrating the chemistry and timing between quarterback and receiver.

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Zay Flowers

PositiveUsage38:00

Flowers is having an unbelievable season and has exploited linebackers as a major area of attack; he has 14 receptions for 224 yards on 17 targets versus linebackers, averaging 6.1 yards per matchup against linebackers (halfway to a first down). The Ravens clearly want to get Flowers involved over the middle of the field and matched up against linebackers through motion and route combinations. This is particularly relevant against the Bills, whose linebackers are giving up 8.6 yards per target (30th in the league), making Flowers a prime target for the Ravens offense.

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PositiveMatchup39:30

Flowers is positioned to have success against the Bills defense this week; the Bills linebackers are currently giving up 8.6 yards per target (30th in the league), and the Ravens will look to exploit this weakness by getting Flowers matched up against linebackers through motion and route combinations. The source expects Flowers to continue his strong season and be a big reason why the Ravens have success against the Bills defense.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00Hey, it's Drew Franklin from NFL Cover Zero. The 2026 season is underway and we are loving football on TV.
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0:37Week 8 is here and this is NFL Pro.
0:40Trevor Sykema, Brett Coleman here with you guys previewing some of the biggest games that we have in Week 8.
0:46But because we're at where we're at in the football calendar, we're also going to talk a little bit of trade deadline destination, play a little matchmaker.
0:54Not much to say, fellas. It's time to go to work.
0:57It's time to go to work. They won't catch him.
1:01It's a touchdown for the Ravens. A lot of good stuff that we're going to get into.
1:06But first, Brett, we got to address the backdrop.
1:08Where in the world are you, my friend? You're putting me to shame right now.
1:13Where are you? I am right next to Newport, Rhode Island.
1:16I'm out of town this week for a wedding because not everybody schedules their weddings around football season.
1:22So we are making it work this week. We are on the road.
1:26But I mean, I've never been in this part of the country.
1:29And I have instantly fallen in love. The food is good.
1:33The views are beautiful. They actually have seasons out here.
1:36I'm a California kid, so anything under 70 is weird to me.
1:39So I actually get to wear a vest for once.
1:42It's great. I know that the beanie is sort of your signature look because I've watched enough of the Brett Coleman YouTube channel.
1:49But now, this is perfect beanie weather for you if you're in that part of the country.
1:55Yeah, no, it actually makes sense. At this part of the year.
1:58And so I'm very happy for you, my friend.
2:01Now you can wear the beanie but actually not be sweating underneath it.
2:05So, you know, I'm very happy for you. Well, you're look maxing the crap out of me right now.
2:11So let's just get to the analysis and hopefully people won't focus too much on that here in this show.
2:17Bears and Seahawks. That's the first game that we're talking about.
2:20Not only is it a matchup of two of the best teams in the NFL, man, we're getting to the point of
2:27the season where there's a lot of playoff probability swings that can happen with wins and losses here.
2:32So this is a pretty high leverage game. If the Seahawks win this game, they have a 78% chance to make the playoffs.
2:39If they lose it, it goes down to 54%.
2:42So a 24% swing. And the Bears, if they win this game, it's all the way up to 82% chance to make the playoffs.
2:49And if they lose it, it goes down to 53%, a 23% swing.
2:53So a lot of things to dig into here on this one.
2:57Brett, where do you want to start? When you think Seahawks and Bears for week eight of this season, where's your mind go to first?
3:05I think about a team that wants to run the ball versus a team that is really good at stopping the run.
3:11And the thing that's most amazing to me about this Seahawks run defense is that they do it from two high safety structures, right?
3:19The Seahawks, if anything, that they're known for on defense, it's how much quarters and in particular, how much quarter, quarter, half
3:25or half, quarter, quarter that they play. You know, cover six plus cover eight.
3:30And the fact that they're still able to stop the run to me speaks to how good their DBs are at tackling in space.
3:37You know, whether you want to call Nick Hammond, worry a DB or a linebacker at this point, you know, dealer's choice.
3:43But their actual true safeties that are lining up, you know, 10 yards plus off the line of scrimmage, they're top 10
3:50in terms of average depth of tackle, meaning how far past the line of scrimmage, their average depth of tackle is at
3:57just 7.7 yards, which sounds like a lot. But remember, that's the average.
4:01So there's a lot of tackles that these safeties are making at three, four, five yard depth while coming from 10 to 12 yards off the deck.
4:09And when you're making that many tackles and you're that good of a tackling team, that adds up over the course of
4:16a game to cut down on the number of second and shorts and make them second and medium, second and long, and
4:22to give yourself more advantageous third down positions as well.
4:25And so if you're looking at how this defense operates as a whole, it really starts with how they stop the run
4:32on early downs to make their late downs better.
4:35And you can't do that without good tackling safeties.
4:38Yeah, 100%. I mean, I was going to talk about Nicky Manwari at some point.
4:42I might as well talk about him now because I went back and I watched that game, you know, that the Seahawks played against the Chiefs.
4:50And I said on game day preview, I think this is going to be a struggle for Kenneth Walker.
4:56I think that the Seahawks know him very well.
4:59And I just think that it was a game that lent itself towards him having one of his slower, if not the
5:05slowest day at the office that we've had so far this season.
5:09Nothing again for Walker. They are shutting him down.
5:12Loss of a yard. I think Nicky Manwari is a huge reason why, because when you look at the 14 carries that
5:18Kenneth Walker had in that game against the Seahawks last week, if you look at just the players that are on the
5:25field, technically it would tell you that 13 of those 14 runs, the Seahawks were in nickel and on the other one they were in dime.
5:33So they had all their DBs on the field.
5:36But Brett, if you actually go and watch the plays, I counted out that they played four of those 14 snaps for
5:42Kenneth Walker runs in a base formation where Nicky Manwari was straight up an off-ball linebacker, or even three of them coming
5:49in a 5-2 formation, stacking the line of scrimmage and not letting Kenneth Walker get to the outside with those outside zone
5:56rushing concepts, which is something that the Chicago Bears are going to want to do as well.
6:01When it comes to the Seahawks defending outside zone, they've allowed the fewest rush yards over expected.
6:06Obviously, last week was a huge boost into that as well.
6:09The fourth fewest yards per carry, the sixth fewest success rate rushing in the NFL.
6:14But when you look at the Bears in outside zone, 103 carries, that's the most in the NFL.
6:19472 rushing yards, second most in the NFL. 13 explosive plays, most in the NFL.
6:24So it really is the unstoppable force versus the immovable object.
6:27And I think Nicky Manwari is the chess piece for that because he played in 100% of the Seahawks' defensive plays last week.
6:34And it's because they feel like they can spread it out and go true nickel or true dime, or they can rotate
6:41into base, not based on who they have out there on the field, but just where they align them.
6:47That's true defensive versatility. So that, of course, I agree with you, is probably the swing in this game.
6:53How the Bears fare in the run game and in outside zone specifically, and then how the Seahawks defend it.
6:59And if you're looking at chess piece versus chess piece, this might be one of the premier matchups in terms of unique
7:05players and unique body types with unique skill sets.
7:08And Seattle, to me, is one of the few teams in the league that has somebody that can actually match up with
7:15Colston Loveland one-on-one, or if they get caught formation-wise or with motion, and, you know, all of a sudden he's covering Luther
7:22Burden, the fact that he can cover either of those guys in space.
7:25How many DBs, linebackers, whatever you want to call them, how many of those even exist in the NFL?
7:31Four? Three? Maybe? Herbert pressure coming! Herbert is thrown down by Eamon Warre!
7:35On the other side of this matchup, I want to talk about Sam Darnold, because obviously it hasn't looked quite the same
7:42this year as it has the last two years, right?
7:45The fact that they're force-feeding JSN so much and he's such a big part of the offense, while he is a super
7:52weapon and he is having a ridiculous, historically ridiculous season, he kind of is what they have.
7:57And I think that predictability in some ways has worked against them offensively.
8:01But with Darnold specifically and his overall production not being quite what it has been in the last couple years, I want
8:07to delineate between quick throws and in-rhythm throws. If you're looking at next-gen stats, they separate out average time to throw between
8:140 and 2.5 seconds, meaning it's a quick throw.
8:17And then they have in-rhythm throws, which is 2.5 to 4 seconds.
8:20And then they have extended plays, which is 4 plus seconds, which I don't know how many plays are designed to go
8:274 plus seconds, but generally not many. And if you're looking at Darnold in-rhythm versus quick passing, his throws that are under
8:342.5 seconds, he has a 105.9 passer rating. His throws that are quote-unquote in-rhythm drops all the way down to 68.7.
8:40And last week against Kansas City, his average time to throw was 2.45 seconds.
8:45Remember, that's average. So he had a bunch of throws faster than that.
8:48His second quickest game in his career. And if I'm looking at Seattle and how they can really get their passing game
8:55to be more consistent, it's just calling things that get the ball out of Darnold's hands quicker.
9:00Because when it's just one decision and go, he's been a lot better this season.
9:05Don't play the time, don't play the time. On the Chicago side of things, I almost want to get away from what
9:12they've been doing recently, where they're kind of Brian Flores-y, putting a bunch of guys in the line of scrimmage, blitzing like crazy.
9:19If you're blitzing like crazy, it kind of reduces the offense to one decision.
9:23I want to make Darnold have to make multiple decisions.
9:26If you're looking at Sam versus Max Blitz this year, meaning sending six-plus rushers, he is 9 of 14 for 106, 7.6
9:33yards per attempt, three touchdowns, no picks, a 126.8 rating, and an average time to throw 2.53 seconds.
9:38When teams rush four or fewer against him, and they make him have to work deep to short, left to right, whatever
9:45it is, work through progressions, that's when there's been a lot more problems.
9:49Because there is less space to exploit with more coverage defenders in the back end, and you can kind of build that
9:55cage around him and compress the pocket around him, and he's just a worse quarterback that way.
10:01Looking in zone, scanning, and the bank, he threw a pick!
10:04Okay, our researcher, Callie, put this together in a tab that literally just says, absurd JSN stats rundown.
10:09So, rather than trying to weave it into specific storylines, I'm just going to feed all of this to you guys, because they truly are absurd.
10:17Okay? It leads the NFL in yards this season, 867.
10:20257 are overexpected, that's most of the NFL. 267 of them are yards after catch.
10:2523.3% success rate per route. 54.1 total EPA, that's the most since 2019, and the second most in the NGS era through seven weeks.
10:32Chris Godwin, shout out to the Buccaneers in 2019, only one who had a higher.
10:3720 explosive receptions, most of the NFL. And he leads the NFL as an isolated receiver with 214 receiving yards.
10:43So, you know how some of these receivers, okay, they'll be stacked to one side, or they'll be in a bunch formation,
10:49it's, alright, I gotta switch release, or I've got one guy going vertical, one guy going out, and it just opens up one receiver.
10:57No, no, no, no. JSN's playing ethical football. He's playing ethical hoops out here, where he is isolated to one side, and
11:03okay, he's got a little bit more space to work with, but they just feed JSN anytime they possibly can.
11:10And for as much as they used him a ton last year, obviously, going into this year, you and I have talked
11:16about, like, alright, when it's JSN and nothing else, is that really good enough?
11:21Dude, there have been certainly times already where, yeah, that's good enough.
11:24And I think that if you're the Seahawks, and you know that, hopefully the cavalry's coming a little bit when it comes
11:31to the run game, and guys in the backfield, you gotta feel pretty good, especially if you win this game against Chicago this week.
11:38Also, by the way, the Seahawks just traded for Quentin Nelson, which probably should mention that.
11:43They had six runs stuffed last week, four of them specifically in the B-gap where the guards are.
11:48So if you have Quentin Nelson on one side, Gray Zabel on the other, I can't imagine they're gonna have six runs stuffed again this week.
11:56We stacked plays, there's so many examples throughout the game of, hey, we gotta play, and then we stacked plays, and then
12:03oh, something happened, and then we found a play.
12:06And we stacked more plays! Chiefs and Broncos. Let's talk about the Chiefs and the Broncos.
12:11Brett, where do you want to start? You want to start on the, we'll talk about Bo Nix eventually, because I think
12:17we have to every single time that we talk about the Broncos, because there's a lot of variance in what he could
12:24be, depending on what opponent they're going up against.
12:27Do you want to start with Nix, or do you want to start somewhere else with this game?
12:32I mean, just kind of a random throwaway fact, JSN has more receiving first downs than both of these teams?
12:38Entire receiving cores? So that kind of gives you context for what we're working here.
12:43It should have been. Crazy, crazy stat. But that gives you an idea of how far ahead, A, JSN is from everybody
12:50else, but also where both of these receiving cores are at this year, I think for different reasons.
12:55I think the Broncos' receiving core is talented, but the passing game overall hasn't been ideal to be diplomatic about it.
13:01And then the Chiefs' receiving core, I think Patrick Mahomes is playing really well, but their receiving core isn't that talented.
13:08So as of right now, both these passing games are struggling for very different reasons.
13:12I know you said you want to get to Bo Nix later.
13:16I feel like that kind of is the main story of this game, just because we saw what happened in week one,
13:23Bo versus Steve Spagnuolo and this defense. You're sight intercepted by the Chiefs' Munson, He was atrocious.
13:28I don't think even Broncos fans could defend it.
13:31It was arguably his worst game of the year.
13:33And if you're looking at the Broncos against man coverage this season, which they faced a lot of in that week one
13:40matchup, he's got a completion percentage of 41.3%, which is obviously not great.
13:44EPA per dropback of negative 0.4, which is obviously also not great.
13:48Weirdly, 11.7 air yards per attempt when facing man coverage, which is the most in the NFL.
13:53It's one of the only times he actually does stretch the field is when he faces man.
13:58It's just, he's not very good at actually completing the ball down the field.
14:02And overall, if you're looking at amount of targets that he throws against man, it's still a low volume thing.
14:08Like he just doesn't throw against man that often.
14:11And I think it's because he just, he's not comfortable throwing into the tight windows that are required to throw into against man coverage.
14:1811.5% tight window throw rate, which is six lowest in the NFL.
14:2250.9% open target rate, which is sixth highest, which means he's only throwing it when his receivers are open.
14:28And if you're looking at wide open target rate, he's the third highest in the NFL at 31.2%.
14:33So his comfort zone is just targeting guys that are wide open, sitting in gaps in between zone defenders.
14:39Football's back. Hey, it's Drew Franklin from NFL Cover Zero.
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14:51When you meet people and you say your job's a sports announcer, it's always interesting to see what the first thing they say is.
14:59I did have one of the more difficult questions, though.
15:02He sits next to me and he sees I'm on my computer and he goes, big sports fan.
15:07And I was like, yeah, actually. And he goes, what do you think about my Jaguars this year?
15:13I realized, like, no one's ever asked me that question ever about anything.
15:16And I was like, listen to NFL Cover Zero on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
15:23There's kind of completing layups down the field, which I think factors into why his passing charts tend to look the way that they do.
15:30Whereas if you're playing a bunch of man coverage, he's really only going to throw it if it's a one-on-one down the
15:37boundary where there's only one guy he has to try to fit the ball in around.
15:42And that's just a low percentage throw to begin with.
15:45Yeah. And that's why Nick's has been, I think so frustrating for me in the NFL, because when I was watching him
15:52at Oregon, I was like, okay, this guy can operate the offense pretty well.
15:56He can keep things on script, but then he has the athletic ability.
16:00He's got an NFL arm. And obviously we've seen what he can do with his legs as well to give you those explosives.
16:07He's just not very confident and consistent when getting to that.
16:10And I think that's just been a frustrating part that hasn't become more consistent for him.
16:15Cause I know that the talent's there, we just don't see it on a regular basis from him on the other side of things.
16:22Cause this game was 31 to 10. When these two teams matched up in week one, it really was not close.
16:29And it was the Kenneth Walker sort of coming out party of, Hey, this contract was absolutely well worth it for this Kansas city chiefs team.
16:37But you know, when you look at the Broncos, I went back and I watched that game sort of getting ready for this, this preview here.
16:45And there's no other way to say it. I mean, I just think the Broncos kind of came out flat and it's
16:51hard for me to say, well, you know, the chiefs really took advantage of them here, here and here.
16:57I guess when you talk about outside throws, that's an area where it might be a translatable or repeatable thing that they could still struggle with.
17:05Uh, the chiefs had over 120 passing yards on outbreaking routes.
17:08They had over 120 passes when it comes to attacking the seam as well.
17:13And so the way that they really, really beat up on this Broncos team is in the run game.
17:18And watching that Broncos game was one where we said, okay, we have to talk about the missed tackles in week one
17:25because of how bad it was, because this team had a 29.5% missed tackle rate against the chiefs in week one.
17:31That was the highest rate since week three of 2023, which was also the Denver Broncos, by the way, but it was
17:38that lack of discipline, that lack of focus, those, those missed tackles.
17:42And yeah, of course, like it was some of those outside zone runs, what, which we've seen from the chiefs, but also just up the middle as well.
17:50Like they were just getting a ton of push up the middle when they were running power or duo, or just straight
17:57up individual man blocking concepts where they were just like, Hey, you'll become that wall and take a step forward.
18:03And eventually they did. And it felt like the strength of the chiefs offensive line was just straight up better that day.
18:10They had 248 yards allowed after missed tackles. That was the most in the single game since 2018 as well.
18:16So if you're the Broncos, you got to be able to say, we took a look at the tape against the chiefs in week one.
18:23And even though it wasn't close on the scoreboard, we feel as though we did a lot of beating ourselves in that game.
18:30And I think that's the approach that you have to have if you're the Broncos.
18:35So it just kind of comes down to, you got to be a lot more focused.
18:40You got to be a lot more disciplined. And that's really where the difference in this game has to be is it's
18:47just got to be so, so much better. And the floor has to be so much higher than what it was in week one.
18:54Obviously, as of recording this show, we're not a hundred percent sure.
18:58Patrick Surtain II's going to be playing. We're on Sertan watch this week.
19:01So it's possible this, this note doesn't match up as well.
19:05Uh, when we get to game time, he obviously is going to have a massive impact on this game because he's Patrick Sertan.
19:12How could he not? And in particular, we've, we've had this interesting trend where, you know, Kenneth Walker is running against split
19:19safety looks way more than you expect for running back as productive as he is because teams are, are playing these split safety looks to stop crossing routes.
19:27The Broncos just as a unit are very good against crossing routes because they have an explosive secondary.
19:32They communicate really well. And when you have Patrick Sertan, like it's not really any route that's going to work against him.
19:39And, you know, Riley Moss is a high end CB2 as well.
19:43So I'm wondering if that bread and butter of crossing routes is going to get eliminated for a second straight week because
19:50Seattle similarly is equipped to handle these crossing routes really well.
19:53They play split safety a bunch anyway, if you take that away and if you have a better tackling performance against Kenneth
20:00Walker than what they had in week one, what is the third punch that Kansas city has?
20:05I'm still waiting to see that. They obviously didn't have it against Seattle and they got trounced, right?
20:10No snaps in the red zone that entire game.
20:13This could be a very low scoring game. I don't know if either team would really be able to crack 17 points.
20:20Every week when you play a game, you have to hear one thing.
20:24There's a way to win each one of these games.
20:27We just got to promise ourselves. We're still improving.
20:29You mentioned how Nick's has kind of struggled under pressure, man.
20:33I think it's the complete opposite, which with Jared Goff, who it's where I want to go with this Detroit lions and
20:39Minnesota Vikings game that we're talking about next. I think Goff is underrated at this point.
20:44And this is coming from somebody who is a Jared Goff skeptic.
20:48You know, when I've done these preseason quarterback rankings, you know, I'd have Goff anywhere between 13 and 18, somewhere between there over the years.
20:55Like, can he get it done for you? Yeah.
20:58But what is Jared Goff really in that offense?
21:01How much does he really matter? This is, I think a year where you look at this lions offense and yes, he's got great weapons to throw to.
21:09He has a good offensive line, but Jared Goff himself is individually.
21:13I think bringing the most value that I've seen in a long time from him, even in really good lions offenses that
21:20we've seen under the, over the years, specifically when it comes to play under pressure, the thought with golf was always, Hey,
21:27when it's on script, when he's clean, he could be a great facilitator.
21:30But when you pressure him, he really struggles. Now he's not the best quarterback in the NFL because he's not the most
21:37mobile when it comes to playing under pressure. But this season, this feels like one of the better versions under pressure of Jared Goff.
21:44Maybe we've ever seen this season, 89.3% passer rating.
21:47That's fourth highest in the NFL. This is under pressure.
21:50Of course, 39.2% success rate. Again, top five, fourth highest in the NFL and negative EPA per drop back.
21:56But that's kind of to be expected. A lot of times that there's heavy pressure against quarterbacks because his EPA per drop
22:03back and negative 0.15, that's still eighth best in the NFL.
22:06So it matters, of course, for this week because he's going up against the madman that is Brian Flores.
22:12But Goff and this Lions offense has been able to at least punch back, have some answers against Flores.
22:18And I think this year it's even more intriguing because Goff, from a confidence standpoint, seems more well-equipped to take on whatever
22:24Flores is going to throw at him. So just wanted to kind of start this preview by giving Goff a shout out
22:31here as somebody, again, who has been a skeptic of what his overall value to the offense really has been.
22:37You go out there and you have a good performance in this game and you get a W, we're going to need
22:44to talk about Jared Goff in the MVP conversation if that's the case.
22:48Hell, I'm already there. He's got 14 touchdowns, no picks.
22:51That's true. Yeah, that's very true. We could, we are already there with him, no doubt.
22:56And the thing that I love the most about Jared Goff is his ability to work the middle, even when he's not
23:02supposed to be able to work in the middle.
23:05You know, last week against Green Bay, coming into that game, Green Bay was arguably the best defense in the league in terms of eliminating in breaking routes.
23:14He more than doubled the average yards per attempt on in breaking routes that Green Bay had allowed all season.
23:20Like that is how good he is at slicing and dicing over the middle, whether it's like dagger concepts, crossing routes, like
23:26even just, you know, shallows, his ability to throw anywhere in between the numbers with absolutely no fear at any level of
23:33the defense, his ability to manipulate defenders out of the way to open up space in the middle of the field, the
23:40connection that he has with Amon Ra and Laporta and Jameson, where they're just always in the right spot at the exact right time.
23:47It's almost impossible to deal with. And looking at the matchup against Flores, you know, yes, recently Flores has had more success
23:54against Goff, but before last year, Detroit under Ben Johnson with Jared Goff as the quarterback was the only defense that was
24:00really putting up 30 burgers against Minnesota. And Flores has been doing this high blitz rate style for a while now.
24:07He's amped it up more this year, but it's not like he wasn't blitzing a lot before.
24:12He was number one. Now he's just number one by more.
24:15And the way that he deploys it, the coverage structures in the back end, when you're rushing five guys, most defenses, they're
24:22going to play what's called a three, three fire zone, three deep, three under Flores does it differently.
24:27He's going to play a lot of quarters and cover two behind it.
24:31Specifically, if you're looking at quarters, 36.7% quarters coverage with a five man rush.
24:36The next closest team is down at 30.6%. And the NFL average is like under 12%.
24:41So he's over triple the NFL average in terms of the amount of quarters run with a five man rush.
24:47Why is that? Well, most teams don't like having to stress their linebackers that much to cover stuff over the middle without
24:53having that, that seventh guy to work with in coverage.
24:56But when you have Blake Cashman, when you have Eric Wilson, I mean, there's only five players in the entire NFL with
25:03a hundred snaps aligned on the defensive line and 50 off of it.
25:07There are two of them. If you include Van Ginkle, it's three.
25:11It's just, he has more snaps on ball than, than the other guys have.
25:15But I mean, that's three guys that they're able to use as chess pieces that can be rushers or drop back and
25:22be these hook zone players over the middle. And it's a tall order.
25:26It's really, really hard to do. Cashman and Wilson are one of the only guys that are trusted that much to do it.
25:33And when you have that much space over the middle and you have a quarterback like Jared Goff, that isn't really flustered by pressure.
25:40Like he used to be early in his career and he knows exactly where the ball has to go.
25:46And he knows exactly the timing and the types of throws he has to make to get it there.
25:51He's one of the quarterbacks that is uniquely equipped to have success against this.
25:56Plus he's also seen it more than anybody else at this point of, you know, him and Jordan Love are the two
26:02that seen it most, but he is so, so good at working that area of the field.
26:07And the only way to really beat this defense is to work that area of the field.
26:13That's what makes this matchup so fascinating to me.
26:15And if there is any offense this year that is going to beat this Flores defense and finally take a win off
26:22of Minnesota, it's going to be him. And Brett, I think it's even deeper than that.
26:27We talk about Brian Flores versus, you know, other teams quarterbacks and, you know, how much he blitzes them.
26:33Does that show almost like how much he respects the other quarterback?
26:36You know, again, like they blitz the Colts 85% of the time.
26:40They just straight up said, Daniel Jones will not be able to handle the blitz.
26:45We're just going to keep throwing it at you.
26:47And it is going to keep working. And that is what ended up happening.
26:52Football's back. Hey, it's Drew Franklin from NFL cover zero.
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27:04When you meet people and you say your job's a sports announcer, it's always interesting to see what the first thing they say is.
27:11I did have one of the more difficult questions though.
27:14He sits next to me and he sees I'm, I'm, I'm on my computer and he goes, big sports fan.
27:20And I was like, yeah, actually. And he goes, we think about my Jaguars this year.
27:25I realized like no one's ever asked me that question ever about anything.
27:29And I was like, listen to NFL cover zero on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
27:35What's interesting about golf though, is the way that the last three years have played out from 2023 to 2025, obviously going
27:42into this year, the games they've already played. I think it shows an underlying level of respect that Flores has for Jared
27:49Goff in this lions offense, because golf was blitzed on 44.7% of the dropbacks.
27:53The lions had on their two losses to the Vikings last season, after facing the blitz on 64.5% of dropbacks on their
28:00four wins against Minnesota from 2023 to 2024. So essentially Flores blitzed golf more in 2023 and 2024.
28:05The first two years when he was facing him is the Vikings defensive coordinator, and they lost all four of those games.
28:12So instead, I think Flores went back to the drawing board and said, okay, okay, hold on here.
28:17I'm going to blitz him less. I'm just going to try to be more calculated with when I do.
28:23So it's less of a volume thing and more of a picking his battles because he blitzed, golf less in the two
28:30games that the Vikings won against the lions last season.
28:33But golf was still fantastic. When there was no blitz, when there was no blitz golf completed more than 80% of his
28:40passes had 339 passing yards, 9.2 yards per attempt average, three touchdowns, no interceptions, but when he was blitz.
28:45So again, it's, it's, it's less frequent, but it was more impactful because when he was blitzed, that's when the interceptions came
28:52zero touchdowns, two interceptions yards per attempt, went all the way down to 4.9 completion percentage went to 44.8.
28:58So Brett, I just think this is so fascinating.
29:00Yeah. It caught him by surprise. When you're presenting eight guys in line of scrimmage and Jared golf knows that you're blitzing.
29:07It's not that he knows who's blitzing, right? Cause the, the Flores defense isn't really designed around position labels, right?
29:13A safety could be a linebacker, a linebacker could be an edge and edge can be an off ball.
29:19Like it's not about position labels. You just have to imagine X is like on a chalkboard on a whiteboard.
29:25It's about structure and a role, not about positions and matchups.
29:28And so you don't know exactly who's coming, but you know, people are coming and you know, generally what the structure of
29:35the coverage is going to be because they play so much too deep, whether it's quarters, whether it's cover two.
29:41I mean, we're talking like 50% of their blitzes are going to be a too high structure of some kind.
29:47So you know what they're going to do. You just don't know exactly who's doing what role, but you know where they're going to be.
29:55And so if you are presenting that and golf knows that he can attack it, if you're presenting it and then you
30:02drop out a bunch, now he doesn't know when you're blitzing and when you're not.
30:06So it causes him, you know, either to slow down his clock a little bit or to misidentify something.
30:12Not to mention if you add in rotation at the snap on there.
30:16And so if you're picking your spots and then actually blitz, when he's been lulled into this kind of false sense of security, that's how you get him.
30:24So if we see Brian Flores in this game, have a blitz rate under 60%, it's a story.
30:30If we see him have a blitz rate under 50%, that's a major, major story, because that means he knows that the
30:37only way he can actually blitz golf effectively is if he doesn't tell him when he's going to do it, which so
30:43far this season, he's told everybody when he's going to do it and it still worked.
30:48Golf might be the exception. Got to complete. That is J-Mo at the 10.
30:52J-Mo to the five. J-Mo to the end zone.
30:55Touchdown Detroit Lions. There's news happening in the NFL.
30:58We are weeks away from a trade deadline and there's already some actions.
31:02Now listen, in two weeks when we get to the trade deadline and on the last day, maybe there's not fireworks.
31:08I don't want to hear everybody say, oh, bummer of a trade deadline because this counts right now.
31:14The Colts getting a jump here. Let's get into a little trade deadline talk here.
31:18We've already got two big names who have been traded.
31:21Quentin Nelson, we talked about it, is now a member of the Seattle Seahawks.
31:26DeForest Buckner coming home to the San Francisco 49ers as part of what feels like a Colts fire sale thing.
31:32Heck, by the time that this episode comes out, maybe Jonathan Taylor gets dealt.
31:36Maybe Josh Downs gets dealt. I mean, basically everybody on the roster feels available for the Indianapolis Colts.
31:41But Brad, I want to talk a little bit beyond the Colts because I think everybody's just talking about the Colts with
31:48a trade deadline, but there's 31 other teams in the NFL and there's buyers and sellers.
31:53And I want to throw out some names that maybe people aren't talking too much about, or if they are connections that
32:00maybe just make a lot of sense. So whose name do you want to bring to the table here?
32:05Have a little trade discussion talk here about whether or not they could be moved at the deadline.
32:11So the thing with high value trades for star players, you know, no fan base accepts the reality that they're, you know,
32:18their best player or one of their best players is going to get traded, but it is a reality and it happens every single season.
32:25And we saw the jets do it twice last year, trading Quinn and trading sauce and hell sauce was recently extended and
32:32they still gave them up for multiple first round picks because at some point, a general manager's job is to acknowledge that the timelines are off kilter.
32:40And when I say the timelines, I mean, you have an age timeline for your roster.
32:45You want your best players to all be peaking at the same time in their prime.
32:50You have financial timelines and then there's development timelines, right?
32:53And this is really more so about quarterback. Is he going to be ascending at the same time as the other star
32:59players, the core of your team are hitting their peaks.
33:03And is our financial timeline managed well enough where we can fill in the rest of the roster around them because we have leftover money.
33:10That's what the general manager's job is the head coach and the players.
33:14Their job is to win games and to not worry about that.
33:18The GM's job is to worry about that. And they have to think in three year increments.
33:23You can't really think in five year increments anymore.
33:26It has to be three because everything changes so fast.
33:29Yeah. It's a strategy for the initial 53 cut.
33:31And then as well as, you know, what we're going to look like in the middle of October and then trying to
33:38be as strong as we possibly can. And as deep as we possibly can with a combination of older and younger players down the stretch.
33:46And so teams are not intentionally trying to lose this time of year.
33:50I know, I know some people think that they are, they're really not coaches are coaching for their jobs.
33:55Players are coaching for their jobs, but general managers have to make sure that their timelines all line up, which is why
34:02you see trades like Quentin to the Seahawks and DeForest Buckner and maybe Jonathan Taylor, because they realize their timelines were not lined up.
34:09They don't have a future quarterback solution. They don't have their financial ducks in a row.
34:14That is why these fire sales happen. And so, you know, keeping the congruency of timelines in mind, when I look at
34:21players that can be on the move, I look at bad teams that probably need a reset that are multiple years away,
34:28that have some players that might just not fit their current timeline in, in one of those three phases, if not multiple
34:34of those, those three phases that need to be lined up.
34:38So I look at say, you know, Jeff Simmons with the Titans, he's almost 30.
34:42He's, he's almost the same age as Quentin Nelson.
34:45He still got it. He could be on the move because the Titans are just not going to be competitive by the
34:52time that he's still in his prime. So, you know, Quentin got a third because he's in the last year of his deal.
34:59Simmons, I think would get more because he is a longer runway of cost control and he's still, you know, Jeff Simmons
35:05and finding an elite interior rusher is hard to do.
35:08Breaking news on GMFB is the trade deadline is less than two weeks away.
35:13The Chicago bears are swinging big, bringing in one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL.
35:18One of the best players in the NFL, regardless of position, Jeff Simmons, a defensive player of the year candidate.
35:24Here are the terms. It is Jeff Simmons and a five in 2028 for a first rounder in 2027, a first rounder
35:31in 2028 and a fourth rounder in 2027. The Ravens are playing the bills and Lamar Jackson doesn't play last week against the Cincinnati Bengals.
35:38It kind of felt like he was pretty close.
35:41And so I'm operating under the guise of, I think he's playing this week.
35:45I feel decently confident about that. Just given what his status was the previous week.
35:50So with that being the case, if that's the table that we're setting here, what do you think about this game?
35:56Where's your mind go to first with this one?
35:59My mind goes, weirdly, not to the quarterbacks because we know both quarterbacks are great, but the bills, when they're at their
36:06best, it's when they're able to establish the ground game to not make Josh's job easier, but more so it's a, it's
36:12so that he can be the force multiplier or rather have something that he can multiply even more, which is their dominant
36:19ground game, which then leads to their play action pass game, which then leads to their explosive rates being super high.
36:25It's all a self-fulfilling prophecy, right? And so when the bills run game is at their best, it's when they're just running North South in between the tackles.
36:34They have a monstrously large offensive line. I think I saw that Dion Dawkins is still like 340 pounds and that's after losing 40.
36:41Like they're just a huge, huge offensive line. If you're looking at the concepts that they run, they get 5.4 yards per
36:48carry on man concepts, which is fourth best in the NFL, 5.4 yards per carry on duo specifically, also fourth best in the NFL.
36:55They mash people in between the tackles off these double teams because they're bigger than you are.
37:00Meanwhile, the Ravens, interestingly enough, if they're going to have a shot at stopping the Buffalo offense, it's not really about Josh Allen.
37:07It's about making every single third down really long and forcing him to be a superhero as much as possible.
37:13We know he can, but the more he has to, the better because sometimes you can get them into a mistake and
37:20the Ravens run defense against these man concepts, 2.6 yards per carry allowed fourth fewest in the NFL and specifically against duo
37:273.2 yards per carry allowed eighth fewest. So they are good at stopping what the bills do in the ground game.
37:33So if they have a good chance here to me, it's not just because of Lamar.
37:38It's because they can put the bills defense or bills offense off schedule.
37:42I am fascinated to see if they actually do it because so far this year, nobody really has been able to.
37:48I also want to talk about Zay Flowers and Flowers is having an unbelievable season.
37:53You know, whether Lamar has been out there or not, obviously it looks better when Lamar is out there, or I should
38:00just say the, the offense is more explosive when Lamar is out there, but we even saw last week in the first
38:06half of the game against the Bengals, like they were going to the Zay Flowers and he was able to do his
38:13thing with Snoop Huntley out there as well. Specifically though, the NGS peeps were able to point this out.
38:19How Zay Flowers does against linebackers is, I think a major area where they have exploited this season and could continue to do so.
38:2614 receptions, 224 yards on 17 targets versus linebackers.
38:29And Brett, he averages 6.1 yards per matchup against linebackers.
38:32They are halfway to a first down if there is a linebacker on Zay Flowers.
38:36Now, when it comes to coverage roles for linebackers, some assignments are really tough, right?
38:41Sometimes you can go back and you can look at a play and you could say, okay, technically, yes, this was the
38:48linebackers responsibility, but you go back and you watch it.
38:51And just due to the positioning and how the guys were aligned pre-snap or what the play was or what the route
38:57combination was post-snap, you go, yeah, you probably weren't stopping that one.
39:01That was just kind of a hat tip to how the offense was designed.
39:05And Brett, all of that is really important for this matchup against the Bills because Bills linebackers are currently giving up 8.6 yards per target.
39:13That's 30th in the league. So the Ravens very clearly want to get Zay Flowers involved.
39:18They want to get him over the middle of the field.
39:21They want him to get matched up against linebackers, whether he's in motion, whether another guy is in motion, however they need to make it happen.
39:29They're willing to do that. Declan Doyle is pointing out these linebackers and saying, there's no way they can keep up with Flowers.
39:36I think that continues this week. And I think it's going to be a big reason why the Ravens are going to have success against the Bills defense.
39:45If they do. I mean, they're really going to have to lean on Flowers because I'm not sure they can lean on their run game at this point.
39:53If you're looking at the first month of the season, and really this is a multifaceted problem because this is the first
40:00year of Derek Henry's career, shockingly at his age, where I feel like he's finally started to slow down a little bit.
40:06He doesn't quite look the same, but the offensive line in front of him, partly due to injuries, obviously acknowledging that Ravens
40:13fans don't come at me, partly due to injuries.
40:16The offensive line is not blocking as well as they did in the first part of the season.
40:21If you're looking at yards before contact per carry weeks, one through four, 3.2, which is absurd.
40:26Like you're darn near getting four yards before he even gets touched.
40:30And, you know, Henry's a freight train weeks, five through seven, 0.1 teams are hitting him in the backfield way more often the last few weeks.
40:38And it's, it's kind of tanked their run game, you know, zone runs are their bread and butter, which has been true
40:45for Derek Henry for darn near a decade at this point, weeks one through four, 5.4 yards per carry, 54% success rate, 16% explosive rate on zone runs.
40:53Without that run game being a stabilizing presence, maybe part of that is because Huntley's been in there.
40:59So teams are keying on Henry. I get that too.
41:02Context, context, context, but the context isn't good. And so if you can't run the ball here and it's just Zay Lamar, please save us.
41:09I'm not sure that's enough to keep up with all of the ways the bills offense can beat you.
41:15I'm, I'm deeply worried about them if they can't get the ground game going.
41:19Yeah. I think it's already tough with the Ravens going into this one because Vega Yawane has the sprained, sprained named MCL.
41:26And to be honest with you, even though he is a rookie, the Ravens are at their best when they are running behind him.
41:33If you just look at yards before contact by gap in the, a gap between the center and the right guard, that
41:40is by far the highest area that they have at 3.4 yards before contact as an average.
41:45Vega Yawane has played both right guard and center.
41:48So that is quite literally a Vega Yawane stat.
41:51And if he is not in this game or if he is not as mobile or whatever it is, that's where they struggle.
41:58I think this team wants to run outside zone, but the yards before contact by gap showcase that, you know, everything out
42:04really from the sea gap and beyond is a struggle for this team.
42:08And there's just not a lot going on the ground.
42:11And I think that losing Vega Yawane is going to hurt them in a big way.
42:16So maybe it does have to be Lamar and Zay please save us.
42:20They won't catch them. It's a touchdown for the Ravens.
42:23Last game that we're touching on here. Let's go to the Browns and the Steelers, a feisty matchup here near the top of the AFC North.
42:31Thoughts overall on these two teams here entering week eight as two teams above 500 and a record and near the top of the division race here.
42:39I mean, the leverage on this game is crazy, right?
42:42The Browns, if they win their playoff probability is 61%, which halfway through the season, if your playoff probability is 61%, that's great.
42:49It's far better than what people expect from Cleveland early this season.
42:53If they lose though, it goes down to 35%.
42:56So that is a 26% leverage swing, which is massive.
42:59And the Steelers are right behind him at 25%.
43:02If they win at 72% to go to the playoffs, if they lose, it's 48%.
43:06So huge, huge game in the AFC North might determine ultimately who wins the division.
43:11And right now, if I'm trying to pick this game, it's about who has the better offensive line and running back combination.
43:17They are a top five offensive line fourth as of recording this in terms of pressure rate allowed, just 30.8%.
43:23It's fourth best in the NFL. And you have a running back who has 36 missed tackles force from scrimmage, which is
43:30fourth most 354 yards after missed tackles from scrimmage, which is most in the NFL.
43:35And he has an EPA per touch of 0.13, which is also fourth most among running backs with at least 50 touches.
43:41So you have an offensive line that isn't letting Aaron Rogers get hit and they're opening up holes like crazy for Jalen Warren.
43:48And when Jalen Warren gets a hole, he's paying it off better than almost any other running back in the league.
43:55That is an extremely difficult combination to beat. And if you're looking at the resume of a team that has that combination
44:01of a top five offensive line and pressure percentage allowed, as well as top five in EPA per designed runs from the running back.
44:09If we're looking at how far that takes you historically, these are the last few teams to even come close to that resume.
44:16If not having that resume, 2025 Rams, they lost in the NFC conference game, 2024 bucks lost in the wild card, 2023
44:22dolphins lost in the wild card, 2022 Packers, no playoffs, 2021 Browns, interestingly enough, no playoffs.
44:27And then 2020 Packers lost in the NFC conference game.
44:30So most of those went to the playoffs and half of them, when they got to the playoffs went all the way to the conference championship game.
44:39So this is a winning formula that the Steelers have.
44:42And while they have their other issues, obviously when you have an offensive line like that and a running back like that,
44:48and a defense that's playing like they're playing recently, how many teams realistically in the AFC could beat that?
44:54Not many. You emphasize the Steelers offensive line, which I think was appropriate here for this game.
44:59I'm going to emphasize the Steelers on the defensive line, because my goodness, I mean, when you hold the new Orleans saints
45:06to 18 rushing yards on 17 carries, I mean, we got to pay attention.
45:10We got to go back to the film. We got to see what you're doing.
45:15And the Steelers defensive line is one of the best in the NFL.
45:19Now, are they one of the best pass rushing units in the NFL?
45:23No, not quite. They have the third lowest pressure rate this season at 30.9.
45:27And last week they actually had their season low at 21.4, but defending the run.
45:31Oh boy, they can defend the run. Cam Hayward, Keanu Benton, different edge rushers that they have there, but Patrick Queen, Peyton Wilson.
45:38Those guys were incredible last week. Overall on the season, they have a below 40% success rate allowed on the ground versus the run at 39.4%.
45:46They're top five in the NFL in yards before contact per attempt at just 0.8.
45:51When I say top five, I mean in a good way for the defensive line.
45:55And they're number two behind only the Kansas City Chiefs in percentage of hitting the running back at the line of scrimmage at 48.2%.
46:03This defensive line is so stout against the run.
46:06And I think that this is going to make for quite a low scoring game, which maybe lends itself to a place
46:12that the Cleveland Browns want to be in because they've had so many, you know, fourth quarter comebacks and last drive comebacks.
46:19And so maybe that's exactly where the Browns want to be.
46:22But I think that it's going to be a defensive slugfest in this game.
46:26This is going to be a throwback AFC North type of matchup with strength on strength in the trenches.
46:32You know, you highlighted obviously the Steelers on the offensive side, but man, the Steelers on the defensive side, if they continue
46:39to stop the run, I mean, it's going to put more on Deshaun Watson's plate in a single game than I think
46:46they've had to do at any point in time this season.
46:49So with Rogers really feeling it and what we saw last week with how they've been out really the last couple of
46:56weeks with how they've been able to expand the passing game to, you know, Jeremy Bernard and DK Metcalf and Darnell Washington and all of those guys.
47:04I think this is going to be a fun one.
47:07I think that it's going to be low scoring, but I do think that this is going to be a pretty fun matchup.
47:14There we go. So the week eight games or a preview in here on the show, obviously we've got so many more,
47:21which we will touch on on the reaction show where we touch on every single game from the Sunday slate.
47:27On Monday, make sure you guys tune in for that.
47:30Thanks for listening to our week eight preview show.
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47:47I would suggest for these preseason games, I think they should do what they do on the NFL draft.
47:53You know, when coverage of the NFL draft is basically for moms and they're just like, Hey, he has a dog named spark.
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