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0:10Alright everybody, welcome to Week 8 of NFL Pro's Game Picks.
0:14Trevor Sykema and Brett Coleman here with you guys as always.
0:17Brett, I'm not going to lie my friend, I think this past week in Week 7, it was like the Carolina Panthers,
0:24the Kansas City Chiefs, the second half of the Baltimore Ravens.
0:27Just burn the tape. Don't go back to it.
0:30There's nothing to learn, there's nothing to be drawn from.
0:33Just burn it. Burn it and move on to Week 8.
0:37What we do here on this show is we take our 10 most compelling games, the games that we want to talk
0:44about, and we will pick them here for you guys.
0:47But not only will we pick the winners, we will rank them in terms of confidence.
0:52And the reason why I set it up the way that I did, Brett, is because even ranking these games in confidence,
0:58not the best week from either of us. And I say that very kindly because I think that this was actually the worst week from both of us.
1:07It was awful, and we knew it was awful while watching these games together.
1:11There was maybe 20 minutes on Sunday where I was semi-confident in what was going down, and then it all just, it got worse from there.
1:19So, you know, it is what it is. It's a burn the tape kind of week, to your point.
1:25And I feel like we have to address the elephant in the room, which is a lot of the comments that we
1:32got last week, which is that you have unfortunately received a much harsher hammer from the minus 10 rule than I have so far this season.
1:40So, if anybody's listening to this and they're new here, what we're doing is we're ranking these games in confidence of 10
1:47to 1, the games that we think are most confident in the picks that we're making.
1:52And we implemented a rule, you know, a couple of weeks into the season and said, hey, you know what, if we
1:58miss our 10 confident game, our most confident games, not only should we not get the opportunity to get those 10 points, we should be punished for it.
2:07And you know what, that's a good call out by you guys.
2:11Since then, the whole reason why we implemented this rule is actually because Brett missed two back-to-back weeks.
2:16of his 10 pick, and we're like, all right, we need to be punished for this.
2:21And since then, basically, all I've done is miss my 10 picks.
2:25So, that's why we're retroactively going in. And so, Brett, you're not only going to miss the 20 of the two weeks
2:32that you had right before we implemented the rule, but just for fun, we also both missed our 10 confidence game in week one.
2:39So, it's an extra minus 10. It's a minus 10 for me.
2:43It's a minus 10 for you. So, technically, on our total scores, you're going minus 30.
2:48I'm going minus 10. Which brings our totals on the year.
2:51Before week seven, so prior to last week's games, you were up on me 177 to 168.
2:57So, quite a lot closer than the Hail Mary strategy I felt like I had to go with last week.
3:03And Brett, you earned, last week, 10 points. Oh, God.
3:06That's it. Barely into double digits. How many games did I even get right?
3:10Like, two? You got Cincinnati and Baltimore right. You got New England and Chicago right.
3:15You got Green Bay and Detroit. And you got Dallas and Philly.
3:18So, you only got four games right. You missed six.
3:22Well, Trevor, you only did slightly better than me because you got 12 points, which is only two more than me.
3:28And if you count- I did better than you?
3:31You did better than me. Barely. But you did.
3:34Bringing your entire season total, all including the minuses and the retroactives and everything like that, you are at 180 for the season.
3:41Okay. So, you're at 187. I'm at 180. We're back in this, baby.
3:45It's single digits once again. The contest is back on.
3:48Before we dig into these 10 games here for this week, which we said, we're burning the tape.
3:53We're getting better. It's going to be a lot better this week.
3:57We got to shout out some fans who have been doing this along with us.
4:02We shout out to you guys. We get more entries every single week into this.
4:06So, when we reveal the 10 games that we are picking, we want you guys to pick it and rank it in confidence as well.
4:14And if you do good, you're going to get a shout out on the show.
4:19Like Keegan, who scored 45 points last week. Crusher and Eric Tide, also scoring 43 apiece.
4:24The New York Giants and the Houston Texans game.
4:26That was the big trap game. 107 of the 113 fans.
4:30That's 95% of you out there. Picked the Houston Texans.
4:33And only six picked the Giants. JJ McCarthy, believers.
4:36Shout out to you for getting the picks and the big points there.
4:40It cost fans 1,226 points combined. About 29% of everything that was dropped.
4:44So, shout out to those guys that came in on the top of the leaderboard here last week.
4:49Last week was a tricky week. And Brett, we got some tough matchups here this week as well.
4:55So, let's get right into it. The Carolina Panthers and the Green Bay Packers.
4:59Thursday night football. Who you got and where is it going to start your confidence list?
5:04You could argue that the Packers should have won last week.
5:07And I would agree with that. They were on the wrong end of, let's just say, some questionable calls.
5:13And leave it at that. Wasn't their best day as far as being on the right side of the refs.
5:19Not to mention two missed field goals. You know, they get a fourth down stop deep in Lions territory.
5:25Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. Whether it was special teams, officiating, anything like that.
5:31They probably should have won that game. And yet, they didn't.
5:34So, taking that into account. I think this Packers team has been a lot better over the last month than what they were early on in the season.
5:43Despite dealing with some pretty significant injuries. Right? You lose Edge Cooper for the season.
5:47You still don't have Micah Parsons back. Jonathan Gannon, I think, has called himself a really good defense despite those talent deficiencies.
5:54Jordan Love, I mean, I think he's been awesome this year.
5:57Flat out awesome. His receivers, whether it's Watson, Golden, they've been great.
6:01You know, you've had some inconsistent play up front.
6:04You've had an inconsistent run game to be kind about it.
6:07And yet, this is still a really good team.
6:10Meanwhile, the Panthers, I'm not really sure what to make of them.
6:14Because their defense is either playing entirely downhill on someone.
6:17And, quite frankly, it's a really good defense. Or, they have weeks like last week.
6:21Where they allow the Bucs to run damn near 80% of the time.
6:25And there's nothing they can do about it. And I never really know which version of this Panthers defense is going to show up.
6:33Now, the Bryce Young turnovers don't help. And so, part of me thinks, okay, are the Panthers, is their success entirely dependent
6:40on Bryce Young being a top 8 quarterback in the league?
6:43If so, that is a fine line to walk.
6:46Especially against a Packers team that takes the ball away a lot and has their own super weapon at quarterback.
6:52So, give me Green Bay here. I acknowledge the Panthers are a good team.
6:56I really do. But, the matchup here is so favorable to Green Bay that I put this in my 10 spot.
7:03Is that crazy? Oh! A Thursday night football game at the 10 spot.
7:07Man. I also took the Packers here. Which, man, I almost feel bad.
7:11It feels a little disrespectful to Carolina that we're not split on this one.
7:15But, I also took the Packers. This one's in my 7 spot.
7:19Because, it is coming off of a short week here where Carolina's really struggled.
7:23They have struggled to defend the run. And, if you're going to open the door for the Packers offense to unlock something
7:30that they really haven't had the last couple of weeks.
7:33Or, most of the weeks this season. And, that is a good ground game.
7:37Now, with Josh Jacobs back. I think this team is absolutely capable of continuing to play really well on the offensive side of the ball.
7:45And, to beat the Carolina Panthers. I really do.
7:48I think this is going to be a close game.
7:51This is going to be a fun game. But, coming off of how Carolina struggled last week.
7:56It's got me worried on a short week. Like, how much.
8:00Outside of just looking in the mirror and saying, hey, we just have to play better up front.
8:05And, defend the run better. Outside of that, it's hard to think there's a lot of adjustments that can be made before they get to Thursday night.
8:13So, the way that the Packers have really been able to take advantage of teams deep down the field specifically.
8:20And, Carolina being banged up in the secondary. I'm also going to go with the Green Bay Packers here in this one.
8:26You got it at your 10 spot. I got it at the 7 spot here.
8:31What about the Atlanta Falcons and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
8:34This will stay in the NFC South. And, where do you have this matchup?
8:38And, who do you have winning? It's at my 4 spot.
8:42Because, I don't know how you could be that confident in any NFC South team from week to week at this point.
8:49This game is also at my 4 spot. Oh, it is.
8:52Okay. So, we're along the same lines of thinking as far as lack of confidence in it.
8:57I did choose Tampa Bay. I'm not that confident in it.
9:01But, when Tampa Bay plays at their best. And, they get the run game going.
9:05And, Bucky is getting 11 touches on one drive.
9:08And, putting this team on his back. And, you know, Baker doesn't have to throw that much with an injured hand.
9:15And, the defense gets multiple turnovers. Which, I don't remember the last time this Bucs secondary got multiple turnovers in one game by jumping routes.
9:22And, that's kind of a new thing for them.
9:25You know, Yaya Diaby finally got going. Last week was the Bucs team that we thought we were getting back in August.
9:32And, they really haven't shown up until right now.
9:35I question whether or not I should believe it without seeing it for multiple weeks.
9:39But, at the same time, I don't really know what I'm getting from Atlanta either.
9:44Because, they also got four turnovers from the Niners.
9:47Which helped them win that game. But, are they going to get four turnovers every single week?
9:52Like, that's a tough thing to really bank on as well.
9:55It's going to be a close game. Maybe it's cliche to say whoever wins the turnover battle is going to win this game.
10:02But, I truly feel like that's the truth here.
10:05So, I'm going to go Tampa Bay. But, very narrowly, you could sell me on Atlanta.
10:10You could sell me on Tampa. But, if I had to choose one, give me the Bucs.
10:15But, I don't feel that good about it. Well, you said you could sell me on the Falcons.
10:21I'm going to sell you on the Falcons. I think the Falcons are going to win this game.
10:26And, the reason why is because the book on Michael Penix right now is you've got to pressure him.
10:32Pressure him and you'll really be able to get after him.
10:36Well, the Buccaneers have kind of struggled with that.
10:38They've been very up and down this season at pressuring the quarterback.
10:42Atlanta's offensive line has been a lot better. Do the Buccaneers have what it takes to defend B.
10:48John Robinson out of the backfield with their linebackers?
10:51And, I just don't believe that they do right now.
10:54And, when you look at how Mayfield played last week.
10:57And, you kind of talked about there. To say that Mayfield didn't have to do much is putting it lightly.
11:03He had five passes that were past the line of scrimmage in that game.
11:07And, yet they scored as much as they did.
11:10And, they controlled it as much as they did against Carolina.
11:13I don't think they'll have that same success on the ground or anywhere close to it.
11:18And, I'm going to take the Falcons in this game.
11:21I think the Falcons are the more stable team, to be honest with you.
11:26And, I am one of those. Maybe I'm a little bit more cynical just because Tampa is my team.
11:32But, I got to see it for multiple weeks here.
11:35Now, something that's good with them is their secondary is playing a lot better.
11:39McCollum's playing a lot better. Parrish has been playing well all year long.
11:43Tykee Smith got the pick last year. They didn't even have, or last game, they didn't even have Antoine Winfield Jr.
11:49So, I think that things are kind of turning in the right direction in ways for the Buccaneers.
11:55But, I got to see it. I got to see it multiple weeks in a row.
12:00And, I'm worried about how much they're really going to be able to pressure Penix in this game.
12:05So, give me the Falcons here in this one.
12:08What about the Baltimore Ravens and the Buffalo Bills?
12:11Obviously, a tricky game here because we're filming this in the middle of the week.
12:16Right? And, we don't know exactly, you know, hard and fast is Lamar going to play in this game.
12:22Go against the Bengals. But, I think you got to feel kind of confident about him playing in this game.
12:28So, if Lamar's in this one, or maybe you're even factoring the fact that he might not be in it.
12:34Where is this on your ranking? Honestly, I would choose Buffalo either way.
12:38I feel like Buffalo is the deeper team. I feel like they're the more complete team this year.
12:43I feel like they're the more reliable team this year.
12:47You know, through Lamar, all things are possible. We know that.
12:50He's a two-time MVP for a reason. Josh is also an MVP for a reason.
12:55I don't think either team wants this to be like week one last year.
12:59Where it's just, you know, bombing it down the field and trading explosive plays.
13:03And, it comes down to who has the ball last.
13:06Like, I don't think either team wants to play that way.
13:10Both teams want to be able to control the trenches.
13:13Both teams want to be able to run the ball.
13:16Slow the game down. Limit total number of possessions.
13:19And, win on efficiency. It's just both teams are also capable of winning a shootout.
13:23But, looking at the rosters as they stand now, I think the Bills have more weapons to work with.
13:29Their offensive line is less banged up. You know, Ioane has an MCL sprain, which doesn't help because he's been arguably their best offensive lineman this year.
13:37And, all things being equal, at the quarterback position, you just choose the infrastructure around the quarterback.
13:43Which is offensive line, weapons, and, you know, how deep is each team in those categories?
13:48And, I feel like Buffalo's deeper. So, give me Buffalo in this game.
13:52I think if Lamar plays, it'll be razor thin.
13:54It'll be really close. If he doesn't play, I don't think it'll be that close.
13:59But, that's why I put it at the three spot.
14:02Is because if Lamar plays, there's at least a chance for Baltimore to win this game.
14:07Yeah, I agree with you. I think I'm just more confident in Buffalo overall for a couple of reasons.
14:13Not that Baltimore can't hang with them if Lamar plays.
14:16I think that you're totally right. But, I just have more faith in a lot of different units along that Buffalo team
14:23than I do the Ravens, even when Lamar is out there.
14:26Now, it's a major difference of when Lamar is out there versus when he's not.
14:31I mean, I think it was you who was highlighting this in the reaction show.
14:35Or, maybe it was in the preview show before the week.
14:39Like, Tyler Huntley basically dead last amongst qualified starters in the NFL when it comes to air yards per attempt.
14:45And, Lamar's first. So, it's just a totally different offense, explosively and with potential, when Lamar is out there.
14:51But, all that to say, I mean, give me the Buffalo Bills.
14:55Give me them at the five spots. So, I'm close to you here.
14:59I'm taking the Buffalo Bills as well. I put them right in the middle.
15:03I do have faith in this team and how well they are playing up front in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
15:10And then, of course, the way that Josh Allen's played for the majority of the year.
15:15So, give me Buffalo in this one. Although, man, Zay Flowers, he's been taking advantage of a lot of different areas, including, obviously, that linebacker level.
15:23So, we'll see how much Buffalo's linebackers are up to the task there.
15:27But, if you shut him down, I think you've got a good chance of winning this game.
15:33The Arizona Cardinals and the Dallas Cowboys. What do you think about this one, Brett?
15:37After Monday, I really want to believe in Dallas and that that's the Cowboys team that we've been waiting for this whole
15:44year, where the defense plays better and the offense puts up, you know, almost 40 points.
15:49But, I'm not sure how much credit I want to give them for that because this Eagles offense is so banged up.
15:56And, you know, how much do you really expect out of the, you know, the Tanner McKee experience?
16:01No shade to Tanner McKee. But, like, with an offensive line that banged up and Saquon coming off injury and, you know, less everything to work with.
16:10Not to mention the offense wasn't that great even when they had their guys in.
16:14I don't know if I could really say, okay, the Dallas defense has turned the corner.
16:19And, at the same time, we get something different from Arizona every single week.
16:23And, they're a really plucky, hard-nosed team that even with a talent deficiency, they still do tend to make it difficult on the opposing team.
16:31Like, they do play tough even when they're overmatched.
16:34I think the Cardinals special teams has every opportunity to flip this game, which they've done a couple times this year.
16:40Their defense is also way, way more crafty than I think they're given credit for.
16:45It's just the offense. You know, the Arizona offense is the issue.
16:49Their offensive line, which we talked about in the reaction show, because of injuries, you know, you lose Paris, you lose Besantis before the season.
16:56Their offensive line hasn't been that great. And, you know, Jacoby throwing 45-plus times is not a winning formula for them.
17:03But, if they have any success whatsoever running the ball, and find any kind of balance on offense, I think their special
17:10teams and defense are tough enough where they could legitimately make this a game and make it hard on Dallas.
17:16Because, Dallas is also not really a balanced team in their own right.
17:20So, I am choosing the Cowboys to win, but I only put it at the 2 spot.
17:25Because, I feel like neither team is complete, and both teams have their flaws, and those flaws kind of match up together to be a pretty close game.
17:34So, I also picked the Dallas Cowboys. And, you know what?
17:37It's worked out so well for me so many times already this year.
17:41I put this at the 10 spot. Oh, Trevor.
17:44The Dallas Cowboys at the 10 spot once again.
17:47Oh, God. We've done this before, man. I can't quit the offense.
17:50I can't do it. We've done this like four times.
17:54Points per drive, plays per drive, yards per drive.
17:56They're top three, if not number one in the NFL in all of these categories.
18:01The name of the game is to just score more points than the other team.
18:06I don't care how bad a defense is. Just score 40.
18:09They didn't do that yesterday. But, they were close.
18:12I'm taking, you know what? I'm doing it. I'm buying the offense again.
18:16I'm going back to it. And, if they burn me again, so help me, I will never pick the Cowboys at the 10 spot ever again.
18:24But, I'm taking the Cowboys at the 10 spot.
18:27Oh, Trevor. Trevor, Trevor, Trevor. That's what this show is for.
18:30Moments like that. You're trying to get the first negative week of the season.
18:34You're close. You're close. I really am. I really am.
18:37Truly. What happens first? You get negative points or Brian Flores gets 100% blitz rate?
18:42It might be for Flores. Because he was, he's mighty close himself.
18:46What was it, last week against Daniel Jones? 85?
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19:34Crazy. Okay, speaking of Minnesota, the Vikings play the Detroit Lions.
19:38The Lions, they're coming off of a pretty thrilling win over the Green Bay Packers.
19:43And so you got another divisional opponent here with Minnesota.
19:46What do you think about this game? Who are you taking in this one?
19:50So I'm going Detroit because historically speaking, I know not immediate history, but historically speaking, Jared Goff has been one of the
19:57few quarterbacks that succeeded against Flores and all of his blitzes.
20:00In particular, you go back a couple years, you know, when Ben Johnson was there and they really leaned into under center
20:07heavy play action stuff to keep the linebackers in place so that Cashman and all of them couldn't, like, expand out to the hook zones.
20:15You know, Ben Johnson's no longer there, but I think the approach still holds up, where if they do a lot of
20:21their under center stuff and you're faking it to Jameer, and then you're working Laporte over the middle, you're working Amon Ra
20:28over the middle, and Goff has just seen these blitzes so many times now, where even if you're doing it a lot, it's still stuff that he's seen.
20:37And I don't think he's going to get flustered by it the same way that a lot of the other quarterbacks that
20:44the Vikings have played this year have gotten flustered by it.
20:47Because even if he gets beat, it's not going to rattle him and, you know, make him play like the younger Jared Goff that would get rattled.
20:55So I'm going to go Detroit here. Also, side note, if you're just looking at quality of quarterback in this matchup, Kyler
21:02Murray, well, he has used his mobility well this season as a passer.
21:06He's nowhere near Jared Goff at this point. It's not even close.
21:10So even if you're just reducing it to who has the better quarterback by a long shot, it's got to be Detroit.
21:17And while I do have questions about the Lions defense, I have even more questions about the Vikings offense.
21:23So I feel like that kind of cancels each other out.
21:26So give me Detroit. I put it at the five spot.
21:29Not super confident, but confident enough. I'm also taking Detroit in this game and I'm putting it at the three spot because
21:36of the things that you listed about having worry about the offense.
21:40I just don't know exactly what the ceiling of this offense is right now.
21:44And if I had to guess, I'd say pretty low based on what we have seen so far.
21:50And right now, I think that the Vikings are truly just succeeding off of other offensive coordinators and other opposing quarterbacks, not
21:56being able to handle just the level of aggressiveness that Flores has.
22:00Now he has basically everybody on that team playing at an incredibly high level.
22:04Everybody knows their role in a complex and aggressive and fast defense very, very well.
22:09And that is a hat tip to him. No question about it.
22:13But you mentioned it. One of the quarterbacks that actually can go toe to toe with Flores because he's got the experience.
22:20He's got the games against him. Everything is Jared Goff.
22:23And I think that the book on Jared Goff for a long time was you pressure him, you get him out of
22:29the pocket, you get him on the run and he's just going to crumble.
22:34He isn't this year. This is his best year when it comes to quarterback rating, EPA per drop back, total EPA, completion
22:41percentage, all of the success rate against pressure. And so I think that it's less about like if Flores just goes, hey,
22:47we're going to blitz you 80% of the time against Jared Goff.
22:51I like that for the Detroit Lions. Now, I wouldn't say that against most teams.
22:56But for the Lions specifically, I would say that.
22:58So I'm taking Detroit here as well. It's only in my three spot because I think this is going to be, you know, too great.
23:06Like one of the best offenses in the NFL and one of the best defense in the NFL going head to head.
23:13And I think it is a coin flip type of a result on that side of the ball.
23:19But yeah, give me Detroit in this one and I'll have it at the three spot.
23:23Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pretty big game when it comes to the AFC North.
23:28Do you have a leaning one way or the other?
23:31Who are you picking in this one? Aaron Rodgers played a lot better last week.
23:36And I don't know if it was his best game like statistically, but as far as just looking, like watching the game
23:43back on film, vibes wise, that to me felt like the best he's looked as a stealer.
23:48Which I think is encouraging. Not to mention it's one of the five best offensive lines in football this year.
23:54And they're not five. They're better than that. You have an emerging super weapon in Jalen Warren, both on the ground and through the air.
24:02He's been incredible this season. And you have, you know, one of the premier matchup nightmares in the NFL.
24:08Maybe not statistically, but as far as if I'm a defensive coordinator, somebody who I just don't have an answer for.
24:14And that's Darnell Washington. Right. So add all those things together, not that Aaron has to be, you know, 2011 Aaron Rodgers,
24:21but if he's the Aaron Rodgers from like a few years ago and he's just a solid starter plus great offensive line
24:28run game and, you know, the freaking Hulk and Darnell Washington and the defense played a lot better too.
24:34Overall, I feel like that's a better team than Cleveland, even though Cleveland has some really exciting parts to it that I adore.
24:41I love their young receivers. I think their defense has played well overall this year.
24:46I feel like Pittsburgh's more complete and therefore more likely to win this game.
24:50So I picked the Steelers and I put it at the nine spot.
24:54Oh, okay. I also took the Steelers, but I put them at the six spot.
24:59I echo a lot of the things that you said, although I do think this is going to be a close game to the end.
25:06We've seen how Deshaun Watson has played really well on those final potential game winning drives, been very good at it this season.
25:13And ultimately, though, the reason why I went with the Pittsburgh Steelers is because I could not have been more impressed by
25:20their defensive front last week in Paris against the New Orleans Saints.
25:24I mean, they rendered that offensive line useless. Keanu Benton, Cam Hayward.
25:28Obviously, we know the edge rushers play well almost every single week.
25:31But then the guys behind the defensive lines playing so well.
25:35I mean, Patrick Queen, the aggressiveness and the speed at which he was playing and the same thing for Peyton Wilson.
25:41I mean, that whole front seven for the Pittsburgh Steelers was so stout.
25:45And I think that that unit is on such a roll.
25:49They're going up against an offensive line that is either playing inexperienced guys.
25:53I mean, DeJuan Jones is somebody who doesn't have a ton of speed to him.
25:57The other guys are kind of new free agents that are there on the team.
26:02I think this Steelers defensive line is just going to be too much for them.
26:06So give me Pittsburgh here and give me them at the sixth spot.
26:10We've got a battle of L.A. The Chargers, the Rams.
26:14Who's the home team? Who's to say? Playing in the same stadium here.
26:18Who are you taking in this game here between the Rams and the Chargers?
26:22If I pick the Chargers at this point, I would just feel stupid.
26:26There's only so many times I can do it this year before I'm just asking for disappointment.
26:31So I'm going to pick the Rams. Coming off the bye.
26:34Do you really think it matters? Coming off the bye.
26:38It's all I'm saying. I'm John just saying. Coming off the bye.
26:41They're starting like all rookies on the offensive line.
26:44Like, it just hasn't been good this year. Rookies coming off the bye though.
26:48Rookies coming off the bye. I'm just saying. The Rams are also banged up.
26:53I mean, if we're talking about banged up offensive line versus banged up defensive line, this might be the game of the
26:59season as far as players who were not slated to be starters in August starting against each other.
27:05Yeah. Truly. And Devontae is hurt. And Stafford hasn't looked like Stafford this year.
27:09Puka's playing. He's gutting it out, but he's playing hurt.
27:12Neither one of these teams is really putting their best foot forward so far this season, even with the Rams coming off a win.
27:20Like, we know this still isn't what the Rams were supposed to be.
27:24Their season's hanging on by a thread. So, I am picking the Rams, but this is one of the few teams at
27:31this point that I would confidently pick the Rams against just because the Chargers have been so bad this year.
27:37And I do want to credit the Chargers defense.
27:40They played as well as they could have. They're trying.
27:43They're trying to keep their team in it every single week, but their offense has just turned the ball over so much.
27:49I still think, even with a bye week, I'm pretty sure their defense still leads the NFL in terms of drives that
27:56they've had to defend that have started in their own territory.
28:00Even with a bye week, I think they still lead the NFL in that stat.
28:04So, it's not the defense's fault. It's the offense's fault.
28:07But the offense still isn't good. But, so, give me the Rams.
28:11I'm putting it at the sixth spot, and I really think this might be the only team that I would put the
28:18Rams at the sixth spot against right now. That's how concerned I am still about the Rams.
28:23Yeah, I hear you. I'm taking the Rams, not putting it at the eighth spot.
28:28There's a lot of tighter matchups this week. I think normally on weeks where the matchups weren't as close, I think this is much lower on my list.
28:36But, as we see it, this is still, one team is heavily motivated.
28:40The other team is the Chargers. And so, I'm taking the team that's heavily motivated.
28:45I mean, if you drop this game and you're the Rams, what does the rest of your season look like?
28:51I mean, this would be a truly demoralizing loss for the Los Angeles Rams in this game.
28:56They are in a stretch that you and I have pointed out before.
29:00Therefore, they have to win the majority of these games in this five-game stretch.
29:05They already dropped the one to start the five-game stretch to the Cardinals.
29:09They beat Vegas last week. I think that this one has to be a must-win for them as well.
29:15So, I'm going to take the Rams because they're the desperate team, and I'm going to put that at the eighth spot.
29:21What about the Kansas City Chiefs and the Denver Broncos?
29:25That's the next matchup we got here. So, the Broncos just had a good day offensively, and I think that's what a
29:31lot of people have been waiting to see is the Broncos having a good day offensively to go along with their defense
29:38that's played well all year, even with their own injuries and everything.
29:42Like, Broncos' defense has been awesome. And the Chiefs are coming off a loss where not only was it a loss, it was a particularly bad loss.
29:50They got dominated. They didn't have a single snap in the red zone.
29:54Like, that's the kind of domination we're talking about here.
29:57And so, I think, you know, looking at recent trends of Broncos up, Chiefs down, you could argue, okay, Denver in this game.
30:04But I just can't get over week one. I can't get over what we saw.
30:09I can't get over how bad Bo Nix has been against Blitzes this season, and we know Steve Spagnuolo absolutely loves to Blitz.
30:16You know, the Broncos against press man coverage haven't exactly been great either.
30:20They're just matchup-wise and the stylistic matchup here, even if the Broncos tackled better than they did in week one, which is
30:27almost impossible to be worse than they were in week one.
30:30I have to imagine they're going to tackle better.
30:33It's really not, to me, about, you know, Kenneth Walker versus Broncos' defense.
30:37It's about Bo Nix versus Steve Spagnuolo. And I still just don't have confidence in that.
30:42Yeah. Maybe he could prove me wrong. I fully welcome him proving me wrong.
30:46The last time we saw it, it was some of the worst tape of the season.
30:51And Bo Nix has had a lot of bad tape this season.
30:55That was still the worst, in my opinion. So give me the Chiefs here.
30:59I put it at the seventh spot. I am fully acknowledging this could blow up on my face and we could be
31:06flooded with comments from Broncos fans saying, Brett, you're an idiot.
31:09You're right. If they win this game, I'm an idiot.
31:13But I really do need to see it before I believe it.
31:16Well, I am taking the Broncos in this game.
31:19I'm only putting it at the two spot because with them being at home, I think that that leans into it.
31:25Them being a different team than what we saw week one.
31:29I think that they're certainly the missed tackles. I mean, you cannot replicate the missed tackle rate that they had in that game.
31:36So it's going to be a lot better there.
31:39But I'm worried about how Nix is going to play against pressure with Steve Spagnuolo as the defense coordinator.
31:45He's going to identify a lot of Nix's issues and really want to attack those as aggressively as he possibly can.
31:51But I feel as though, you know, Denver's rolling certainly a lot more confidently than they were to start the season.
31:58I think they're a lot more ready for this one.
32:01If this is in Kansas City, probably feel a different way.
32:04But with this being in Denver, give me the Broncos.
32:07Give me them at the two spot here. What about the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington Commanders?
32:12We got one in this game. Let me ask you this.
32:16Okay. How many teams in the NFL would you pick the Eagles against right now?
32:20Um, not Washington. Same. Not Washington. Not that I think Washington's like that good this year.
32:25Yeah, right. Right. The Eagles are in a free fall.
32:28Yeah. It's not entirely their own fault. It couldn't be worse right now for the Eagles, it feels.
32:34No. And they know. No. They know what the rest of the season is.
32:38They're evaluating. Right. The entire point of the remainder of 2026 for the Philadelphia Eagles is we know what our problems are.
32:45We are evaluating if you could be part of the solution.
32:48That's the only goal right now. If they win some games along the way, great.
32:53But they know they're not winning the Super Bowl this year.
32:57It's not going to happen. But meanwhile, Washington, everybody's kind of coaching for their lives right now.
33:02And everybody's playing for their lives. So if we're talking about motivation, Washington is incredibly motivated.
33:07But I also think Washington, even with their own talent deficiencies in losing Terry for the season, I still might take their
33:13remaining talent over the remaining talent that the Eagles have.
33:17Yeah. That's how bad it is in Philly right now.
33:20So. Jaden, Jaden's had the big mental blunders that I think most people remember as the focal point this season.
33:26But I mean, Jaden has played really well when he has been out there.
33:30So if you take away those two, you know, mental missteps from him, you'd look at Jaden Daniels tape and be like,
33:37OK, yeah, outside of the injury, like Jaden's playing really well this season.
33:41And I think that this game simply just comes down to I trust Jaden at quarterback a lot more than whatever the
33:48Philadelphia Eagles feel is their best option at quarterback.
33:51And that's as simple as it is to me, especially with Washington hosting this one.
33:55And you mentioned a lot of people in Washington are coaching for their jobs right now.
34:00It's not like I think the Washington's a way better roster than Philly.
34:04But they to me, they've got the most important position and they've got it by a lot.
34:09So where did you have this one in the rankings?
34:12I put this one at the eighth spot. And it's really more a reflection of the Eagles than the commanders to me.
34:19I thought this was going to be an opportunity for me to get a bunch of points on you here.
34:25I got them at the nine spot. So we're similar.
34:28Man. Oh, we both just do not believe in Philly at all whatsoever.
34:32Which, of course, even Philly fans don't believe in Philly right now.
34:36Yeah, but from the universe, that just means that you know what happens.
34:40Philly's going to win by 30. So you know what happens there.
34:44Probably not. Last game is the Chicago Bears and the Seattle Seahawks.
34:48What a game this is. Potential NFC championship type of game here with Seattle and Chicago matching up.
34:53Who you got winning this game and where you got it in the confidence rankings.
34:58So if I recall correctly, we both have this at the one spot.
35:02You are correct. Do we not? Yes. Yes. You are correct.
35:05So this game is not going to do a whole lot of damage to either of us, which means we get to watch it stress-free, which is awesome.
35:14Thank goodness. Thank goodness. I picked the Bears. And not that I feel amazing about it, because I put it at the one spot.
35:21But I feel like the general theme of the picks this week, and it's really the foundational pillar of analysis that we
35:28all fall back on when we don't know what to really expect.
35:32It's who has the better quarterback. Because both these teams have great coaching staffs.
35:36And I think, you know, offensively versus defensively, trench talent versus trench talent, this is one of the more even matchups of the week.
35:43Yeah, I agree. And sometimes when you have very evenly matched teams, the only thing that really can move the needle is quarterback play.
35:51Right. And not that I think Sam has been, like, gross this year.
35:55He certainly hasn't been as good this year as he was the last couple years.
36:00You know, going back to the Minnesota year and then his first year in Seattle.
36:04The turnovers have been an issue. The accuracy has been an issue.
36:08Decision making has been an issue. He hasn't been horrible, but he hasn't been good either.
36:13Meanwhile, Caleb, I think he's been amazing this year.
36:16So if the one thing in an evenly matched game in terms of total roster talent, coaching staffs, whole kit and caboodle,
36:22if the one thing that can really move the needle, three to four percent in your favor is who has the best quarterback.
36:29That's Chicago. So give me the Bears as reductive as it is, as cliche as it is.
36:35Sometimes when you watch football, that's just what it is.
36:38Who has the best quarterback that can make three more plays than the other guy?
36:42That's Chicago right now. I'm taking Seattle just because of how good they looked last week against the Kansas City Chiefs.
36:49But I will say this. I know Seahawks fans won't agree with me here.
36:53The season gets a lot more fun if Chicago wins this game.
36:57Because if Seattle wins this game, you know, it's back-to-back weeks where Seattle was kind of like back against the wall a
37:04little bit, had a few weeks there where they didn't look so good.
37:08But then it was like, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:11But we're locking in and they beat the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chicago Bears.
37:16So throughout the entire rest of the season, I think when we talk about Super Bowl favorites or who's the best in
37:23the NFL, especially with the Seahawks trading for Quentin Nelson, a lot of people are just going to go, yeah, but when
37:30the Seahawks are locked in, I mean, like that's just the best team in the league.
37:35Whereas if they lose to Chicago, like if Chicago beats them here, I think it opens up a lot of stuff.
37:41Okay, well, Kansas City lost to Seattle, but Seattle lost to Chicago.
37:45And you get to kind of like have this fun game with the best teams in the NFL.
37:50And there's a lot more parity with it. And then Vikings fans are going to say, yeah, but Chicago lost to us.
37:57But that's the thing is that if Chicago wins this game, I think you open up the parity of who it really
38:04is the best team in the NFL. Who is the Super Bowl favorites?
38:08It's who do you feel the best about any given Sunday?
38:11And I think Chicago and Seattle are two of those teams.
38:15But I'll take Seattle here because with how much they really locked in against the Chiefs, I think they're going to continue
38:21to be locked in at home against Chicago. And so I just can't wait to watch this one.
38:27I'm glad that we've got it both at the one spot here.
38:31And I'm glad that we're both a little bit different on what is an incredible game.
38:36Those are our game picks. Like we said at the top of the show, we would love to hear yours.
38:42Those are the 10 games that you choose from.
38:45Don't just pick the winner, but in the comments section, rank them in order of confidence.
38:50And we keep score of all of this as we have the last couple of weeks.
38:54And if you're the top scorer every single week, we'll give you a shout out at the show next week.
39:01So appreciate everybody watching. Enjoy the games. And we will indeed see you next week.
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