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0:31Talladega Knights was in theaters, Trev. That is how close of a Sunday we have had.
0:36My God, that was good. I think we gotta start with Ravens and the Cowboys because, one, this was tied for the third highest scoring international game ever.
0:45This is the best international game ever? Ooh, hard to argue against it, man.
0:49The folks at NGS got us all the numbers of, you know, the scores and everything from the previous game.
0:56The game in which 67 points were scored because it was 65 with the Ravens and the Cowboys, the game in which
1:0267, which was the second highest scoring game ever, international game ever, was 2012.
1:07It was Bill Seahawks. The score was 50-17. So, what's that?
1:10Oh my God, dude. At all! But it was the second highest international scoring game.
1:15Anyways, we're glad that this one was a little bit closer, and I do want to give the Ravens their credit right
1:22off the bat because they obviously come in, they win this game, and, man, when the Stars are out there for the
1:29Ravens, this is a good football team. I think that week one, they looked really good.
1:34Why? Because Lamar's out there, because Zay Flowers is out there, and because Derrick Henry's out there.
1:39When you have the big three on offense, I think this offensive group looks really, really good, and there's so many different things that they could do.
1:47Week two, Zay Flowers wasn't out there, and it totally changed things on offense.
1:52But I just felt as though Lamar looked so much more poised in this game.
1:56Not to say it was perfect. You know, he had the overthrow to Andrews at the beginning of the game, but as
2:03things went on, I felt like Lamar really settled in.
2:06They used him on design runs, and he got more than half of his rushing yards on design runs.
2:12I believe it was a QB draw on one of them and an RPO look on another, and they were very, very
2:19effective because of how confident he was doing that.
2:22The time to throw was higher in this game, but he was also efficient with it.
2:27So to me, that shows, again, poise from Lamar, where when you have that time, he's not panicking.
2:33He's not bailing. He's staying. He's scanning. He's holding onto the ball a little bit longer, and he's delivering it for guys
2:40to be able to make plays down the field.
2:42So I just felt as though this is a really nice bounce-back game from Lamar.
2:47Perfect should never be the bar for a quarterback.
2:50Improvement always should be. I felt like week one, they came out of the gate hot.
2:55Week two, they stumbled a little bit, and week three, they got back on track.
3:00That's without mentioning how great Derrick Henry is in this game.
3:03Dude, how graceful is Derrick Henry aging? I mean, I watched him at Alabama, and the early years with him with the
3:10Titans and everything as well, and I went, man, this dude's racking up the yards.
3:15But when we get to the later parts of his career, it might be ugly with him.
3:20We're at the later parts of his career. He's better now.
3:23It's insane. I can't believe that a running back with that much power can move with that much grace at this age.
3:30He's the man. No edge, no chance. You have to have an edge on the defense, otherwise Derrick Henry is going to outrun you.
3:38And talk about putting pelts on the wall. For Jason Barham in his third career game to get a goal-line TFL on Derrick Henry?
3:45Mm-hmm. I mean, there's very few higher honors a linebacker can have, let alone a rookie linebacker who just got the green
3:52dot due to injury, came back on the next drive, got another TFL on Henry, going through a lead blocker on third and one.
4:00Jason Barham is the main reason the Cowboys were even able to come back into this game, because he was unbelievable.
4:06And I just felt bad for not just Cowboys defense, but just Cowboys fans in general, because they kept getting banged up
4:13over the course of these last three weeks in the secondary to the point where that last catch that set up the
4:20field goal, it's like corner five and safety five on the field.
4:24They were just running out of DBs. You have a post-safety just covering nothing.
4:28He's just covering green grass down there. You can literally see on the tape, he just turns and runs.
4:34Because in his mind, he's like, well, don't give up a touchdown.
4:38They didn't need a touchdown. They needed a field goal.
4:41And so typically when you have the DB carrying that route from outside leverage, he's expecting inside help from a safety nailing
4:48down on it while there was no safety there.
4:50He was 40 yards deep. And so it's just it's mental mistakes by young backup DBs that typically would not have been on the field in that situation.
4:59Not to mention, you know, situational awareness with seven seconds left.
5:03You really just want to keep it to one play.
5:06So even if you give up a catch, don't tackle him down immediately.
5:10Hold him up. Make sure the clock is running out so they can't get a timeout off.
5:15Instead of making an immediate hit, if they held him up until the clock hit zero, we're moving on.
5:21So it's just it's just young DBs making mental mistakes, man.
5:25And I feel bad that I feel bad for Cowboys fans of the game ended that way.
5:30But I'm also thrilled for Ravens fans that for once they were on the good side of one of those because it's happened to Baltimore so many times.
5:39And this time it was Lamar making the clutch throw.
5:42He was making the exact play that his team needed to win a game that statistically they weren't supposed to win with seven seconds left.
5:49But I've just seen Baltimore be on the other end of that so many times.
5:54I'm happy for them that they finally got one.
5:57Now, I wanted to make sure that I praised the Ravens at the top.
6:01They did win the game. I'm not trying to take anything away from them.
6:06I actually felt like the Cowboys played better in this game.
6:09And the Cowboys absolutely played well enough to win this game.
6:13Got over 400 yards of offense. Javante Williams was awesome in this game.
6:17Over five yards per carry. Dak, the completion percentage was a little bit lower for Dak.
6:22But you look at the stars, man. CeeDee Lamb over 100 yards.
6:25George Pickens 82 yards. I mean, it just felt like when they needed a big play, these stars were there.
6:32I felt as though the Cowboys actually made more big plays on the offensive side in this game.
6:37And I thought they made... You mentioned Jay Sean Barnum making that one of the goal line.
6:43He had one... What was that? That was later in the game.
6:46A little bit later. It was on the next series.
6:49It was like the next drive. That third and short where he absolutely blows up the fullback as the lead blocker.
6:56And basically, it's just a one-man wrecking crew in the backfield.
6:59Barham! Game is Barham! This kid is not the same.
7:03These guys made a ton of plays on both sides of the ball.
7:07And even though the Ravens came away with the victory...
7:10Again, I'm not trying to take anything away from them because I don't want to do that.
7:15There's a reason why the Cowboys were in a position to...
7:19Hey, touchdown and we win. Essentially. They end up not scoring on the goal line.
7:23They end up kicking the field goal. And then the breakdown and coverage that you mentioned on the Ravens drive to get into field goal range.
7:31But again, you go back to that opportunity. When you've got these two teams that are very evenly matched and they're going
7:38back and forth and they're scoring a lot of points.
7:41You want to be that team who at the end, you dictate your fate.
7:46You have the ability to score the touchdown. And if you do, you are winning that game.
7:51And I think that's a good sign of a team that's done a job well done all game long.
7:57Or at least to get themselves in a position to have that honor.
8:01And the Cowboys did. And look, I know the Cowboys are now sitting here at 1-2.
8:06I actually feel pretty good about the Cowboys moving forward.
8:09And maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot there.
8:12I know this is a team that you and I liked a lot going into the season.
8:17So maybe there's some preconceived notions that are there.
8:20But I feel pretty good about this Cowboys team coming off of this game.
8:24Albeit from a loss. I really do feel like they've gotten better with each passing week.
8:29There was the game against the Giants where they made, again, severe mental mistakes on defense.
8:34And they got got by a team that on paper we all thought they were going to beat.
8:40And then week two, they had eight drives to put up 37 points.
8:44It's hard to be more efficient than that. And in this game, very easily could have.
8:49Some would argue should have won it. But Baltimore just made really key plays in high leverage moments.
8:55At least more than Dallas did to win. Like I, not that like losses are good.
9:00But if you're looking at how they've lost these two games, it's not something that I have massive concerns about.
9:06Compare that to the Texans where I have actual real concerns that make me audibly shout, what the f*** are you guys doing?
9:13I never have those moments with the Cowboys. I understand what they're trying to be, and they're very close to being that.
9:20And I know Shadi's trying to fall on his sword and say, oh, I give myself an F for play calling.
9:27You put up 400 yards, dude. Like, you're a good team.
9:30To Ferguson for the touchdown! He had two last week.
9:33Now he's got one in Rio. Let's move on and talk about the Cincinnati Bengals and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
9:39Neither of us took the Steelers in this game.
9:42I don't think there were a lot of people out there that were taking the Steelers in this game.
9:48And yet, divisional win, man. The AFC North, it's a funny place.
9:52Things happen that you don't expect, especially with this Steelers team.
9:55So, Aaron Rodgers, shout out to Ben Solak for putting me onto this.
9:59So, his 3.19 second time to throw today was the second longest that he's had as a Steeler.
10:05If you're looking on dropbacks longer than two and a half seconds, he was 11 of 21 for 213 yards.
10:11That's 10.1 yards per attempt, folks. Three touchdowns and a pick.
10:14He had 15 attempts of at least 10 yards down the field, most as a Steeler.
10:19They're actually pushing the ball down the field, which is what we've been begging them to do since, I don't know, 12 months ago at this point.
10:28And shocker, they put up a bunch of points and win the game.
10:32Yeah. I'd like to see them do this more.
10:35Well, very clearly, Aaron Rodgers is comfortable doing it against the Bengals because you mentioned that this was the second highest time
10:42to throw average that Aaron Rodgers has had during his time with the Steelers.
10:46The longer time to throw that he had was against the Bengals last year.
10:50So, yes, a very, very comfortable passing against this team.
10:53We've spent a lot of the better part of the last, I'll say, month and a half talking very highly of the Bengals.
11:01And I still think they're a very good football team.
11:04I don't think that today changes that. But where I do believe they've gotten a lot better on the offensive and defensive
11:11trenches, their secondary and giving up big plays has sort of been an issue to start this season.
11:16They gave up 10 explosive plays against the Steelers this week, a 16.9% explosive play rate.
11:21They've given up 28 explosive plays this season, which is one of the higher marks in the NFL.
11:27Now, an interesting part of this is the coverage that they decided to play here against Aaron Rodgers.
11:32They played single high coverage, so cover three or cover one, on two-thirds of their plays today.
11:38And Aaron Rodgers was very clearly comfortable attacking that because all three of Aaron Rodgers' touchdowns came against those single high defenses.
11:45He was very comfortable assessing the defense. We saw some vintage Aaron Rodgers throws in this game, and we've been waiting for
11:51these types of plays and these types of attempts, and it just hasn't felt as though Aaron Rodgers has wanted to attempt them.
11:59One of the touchdowns was maybe my favorite touchdown that I saw this week, and it was the Ben Skoranek touchdown.
12:05Touchdown for the score! So, you can just see how that play went, how just confident everybody was in what they were
12:12doing, but it also goes into how well the Steelers' offensive line played in this game.
12:17I know that Aaron Rodgers, in his older years, doesn't want to take hits.
12:21Who does, right? From NFL defenders. But Rodgers, specifically, during his time with the Jets and his time with the Steelers, that
12:28time-to-throw number has been so low because he just wants to get the ball out of his hands because I feel like
12:35he's been playing behind an offensive line that he doesn't trust.
12:39The offensive line was pretty dang good in this game.
12:42Not just in pass blocking, but also in run blocking as well.
12:46They were, I don't want to say imposing their will because I don't know if it was quite like that, but they
12:52were having a pretty dang good day. One of those players that was having a good day was rookie Max Ionacher, who
12:59started at right tackle in this game. This was his first start.
13:03He had 36 pass blocking reps, three pressures allowed, but just an 8.3% pressure percentage, which was the lowest on the team, I will add.
13:11And he was also one-on-one, Brett, 75% of the game.
13:14So he was on an island as an offensive tackle, three-fourths of this game and three-fourths of his pass blocking reps.
13:20I just thought it was a great day all around for the Steelers.
13:25Mike McCarthy was in his bag. Aaron Rodgers playing confident.
13:28Jalen Warren looked great. The offensive line was playing fearless.
13:31And because of that, you got a version of the Steelers offense that I think a lot of people have been saying,
13:38where has this been for the longest time since Aaron Rodgers has been on the team?
13:43Not to get too deep into draft talk, but watching Ionacher work out close up with my own eyes.
13:49I was like 15 feet away from him doing drills.
13:52It looked exactly like Membu the year before. Both of them freak athletes.
13:56But just the build, the explosion. He was still relatively new to football, even as a first-round prospect.
14:01He's not even really fully developed yet, but he is just so physically gifted.
14:06Watching him work out took my breath away, man.
14:09I think the whole fiasco with Mekhi Lemon, to me, and I even said it at the time, I think they kind
14:15of lucked into a better pick for what the Steelers needed, which was a true right tackle because of the Broderick Jones thing.
14:23Like, his future was still uncertain at the time.
14:25You got Fahatan, who was the other tackle. I was like, I feel like Ionacher was a harder thing to find than
14:32a wide receiver two, wide receiver three, which is what Mekhi would have been on this team this year.
14:38Ionacher is just the more rare commodity. And the fact that they got him, I don't want to say on accident, but
14:45just due to fate, I feel like that was the better thing for them.
14:50And that played out in this game. I think Ionacher being rock solid on that right side was one of the big
14:56reasons why they won against a very good Bengals defensive line.
15:00I don't know what Mekhi Lemon could have done for them that they didn't already have in this game.
15:06So, the Steelers nailed it. Yeah, for sure. For sure.
15:09But beyond that, beyond just the Steelers offense popping off, you know, Derek Harmon, first-round pick from last year, you know, making that game ceiling sack fumble.
15:17Beyond that, I want to shout out Callie on the NGS team, by the way.
15:22She always keeps us honest when it comes to special team stats.
15:26Cincinnati lost this game, arguably, or maybe inarguably, if you ask a Bengals fan, on special teams.
15:31They have now lost 6.4 EPA on special teams this season, second most in the entire league.
15:36They had two absolutely horrific special teams errors. They had a muff, as well as a roughing the kicker penalty on the
15:43Steelers that then brought the Steelers offense back on the field.
15:47They scored on that. You could argue Cincinnati's special teams cost them 10 points in this game, or rather gave the Steelers
15:54an opportunity to get 10 extra points in this game.
15:57So, the third phase matters, and when the Steelers offense is playing better, and the Steelers defense has that, you know, really,
16:04really voracious pass rush when they're at their best, plus a good special teams outing, it's a hard team to beat.
16:10And the Bengals, who we think are going to be there, you know, towards the end of the year in the AFC,
16:17they found that lesson out the hard way. By the way, just to wrap this up, do you see T.
16:23Higgins' touchdown this week? Yeah, dude. Because it just feels as though he just saw Jamar's touchdown the week before, and he
16:30was just like, no, no, no, okay, now I've got to have my own.
16:34So, I'm looking forward to next week, because now Jamar's going to have to be like, oh, okay, well, now I've got
16:41to do something, you know, even better. I've got to do something absolutely crazy, you know?
16:46I've got to catch it behind my back or something like that.
16:50They'll cook up something. But I am enjoying that competition of who can make crazier catches.
16:55And somehow ends up in the hands of T.
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18:32All right, Chargers and Buffalo Bills. I mean, speaking of crazy, man, how in the world did the Buffalo Bills win this game?
18:39Because they were playing against the Chargers, and the Chargers always lose games like this?
18:44I mean, what's the stat? Do you have the stat in front of you?
18:48How often teams who had five turnovers end up winning games?
18:52Because the number is so, so, so, so few in league history.
18:56Since 2013, teams with five-plus turnovers and a negative four turnover margin were 2, 81, and 1.
19:01And the Bills got the win today. They made it three.
19:04So, going from last week's Charger game where they fumbled six times to this week's Charger game where they forced five turnovers
19:11and still lost, it's very much, well, I don't want to say the norm because it's not the norm.
19:17But for Chargers fans, it just feels like another chapter in a long history of losing games in the most improbably Charger-ish kind of way.
19:25I'm just, I'm beside myself, right? Watching the tape, you and I were kind of going back and forth on this.
19:32Like, Justin Herbert just doesn't look like Justin Herbert.
19:34And even the people that are Herbert detractors, I would say, you know, posting the if-man memes and everything like that.
19:41I would say, looking at that pick that he threw today, even those of us that have defended Herbert can't defend that.
19:48And even the ones that have gone after Herbert in the past, even you guys got to admit, this is a new low.
19:55Like, these first three weeks of the season is a new low for Justin Herbert.
20:00I have never seen him play like this in a three-game stretch ever.
20:04Like, truly ever. And he's been in the league, I don't know, six years at this point?
20:09Seven years at this point? I don't know what's going on.
20:12Because on paper, okay, you're bringing in Mike McDaniel.
20:15It's not like Mike McDaniel has historically called bad offenses.
20:18You got Amari Hampton. You got two tackles who we think are really talented.
20:23I don't know what the problem is, but there is clearly a problem.
20:27He is not seeing the field well. He's just making YOLO decisions down the field and throwing picks that, like, a rookie wouldn't even throw.
20:35I just, I can't explain. Like, that's not Justin Herbert.
20:38I mean, it is, but it's not. And they're losing games because of him.
20:42The vibes are pretty low right now for the Chargers.
20:45And I think a big reason why is sort of what you're talking about with Herbert.
20:50Because they win the time of possession in this game.
20:53They obviously win the turnover battle by a lot.
20:56They had less penalties in this game. And they lose.
20:59And it's just, it's finding ways to lose in new fashion, it feels like, every week and every year with this team.
21:06I am worried about Justin Herbert here. Because when you look at his stats three games into the season.
21:12Now, three games is a smaller sample size compared to yearly statistics, right, where you have a 17 or going back far enough 16 game sample size.
21:21But, when you look at Herbert this year, lowest completion percentage over expected of his career, negative 3.8%.
21:26I don't think he's ever had a negative. And if he has, it's very few.
21:31Lowest completion percentage overall of his career, 59.1%, which would be his first season below 65.
21:36So we're not even close. We're 6% lower than what his lowest year was prior to this.
21:41It's his lowest success rate of his career overall, 39.4%.
21:44It's the first season where he's averaging a negative EPA per drop back, negative 26.9% completion percentage over expected, and negative 1.16%
21:51EPA per drop back on throws of 20 or more yards this season is not even close.
21:56The lowest numbers of his career. And Brett, that's what worries me the most.
22:01Because if you want to sit here and talk about all the talent that Justin Herbert has, and I do.
22:07I've had Justin Herbert as a top 10 quarterback in the league despite some of the results and despite winning the big
22:14games and the playoffs and things like that. I think he's a top 10 quarterback because he's talented enough to be a top 10 quarterback.
22:22But when you have the arm talent that Justin Herbert does, and you've put out some of the interceptions that we've seen
22:29through the first three weeks, Buddy, I don't know how much more defending of you I can do here.
22:35Because when you look at some of these interceptions and some of these poor throws of 20 or more yards down the
22:41field, Brett, it's like there's zero urgency. He's awful.
22:44He's so nonchalant. I think it was in this game.
22:47I'm pretty sure it was this interception from this game specifically where he's looking at the receiver.
22:53He sees it. And he almost like hops like an extra time just for fun.
22:57Like he's just walking in the park on a Sunday afternoon not playing an NFL game.
23:02And then he goes, all right, I'm going to throw this now.
23:06Now it's too late. And in fact, on top of that, he's not putting the heat on it like I know he can.
23:13So all of these numbers just sort of encapsulate that it looks very off with him.
23:18There's just not a lot of urgency in which he is passing the football.
23:23And when you contrast it with Josh Allen, who just plays the game like every snap is his last.
23:29Yes. Like every individual play is the most important of his life.
23:32It just looks different, man. It just looks different.
23:35And I don't know what's going on. You know, there's been some sound coming out of Charger Land from other players that
23:42make it sound like the vibes are just kind of off inside the building.
23:46You know, even the coaching staff at the very top.
23:50And I love Jim Harbaugh. I really do. I have to criticize Jim Harbaugh as well.
23:55His macro game management is just bad. And I feel like the players kind of sense that.
24:00Like it almost feels like the players are playing as if they feel like the coaches are not putting them in the best chance to win the game.
24:09Next Gen Stats, they actually do track whether or not coaches are making the optimal decision in whether, you know, punt kick
24:15situations or, you know, kick versus go for it situations.
24:19Last season, even the Chargers elected to go for it on fourth down on just 50% of recommended situations tied for the second lowest rate in the league.
24:27And in 2026, they have not gone for it when recommended on any fourth down opportunity.
24:32And that happened in this game. Fourth and three from Buffalo's 27.
24:36Had an opportunity to go for it. Were recommended to go for it.
24:40Didn't go for it. Tried a field goal. Missed the field goal.
24:44And I feel like that just saps these players' energy, so to speak.
24:48Right? Where, like, they feel like they just want to be put into a position where they can make plays that win
24:55the game and they're not being allowed to do so.
24:58And it just looks like they don't care. Like, this team is playing like they don't care.
25:03And I'm not used to that for a Jim Harbaugh coach team that always just plays with fire and passion.
25:09I think back to those, you know, early 2010s Niners teams.
25:13I think back to that Michigan Natty team. The energy is just not there.
25:17Right. It's sad. It is. And now I want to talk a little bit about Buffalo because they did have the win in this game.
25:25Oh, yeah. The team that won. Yeah, yeah. So we got these numbers from NGS.
25:30James Cook ran for 154 yards and a touchdown on 24 carries, recording five explosive runs for the second time in a game already this season.
25:38Four of his five explosive runs came on man-rushing concepts behind a power offensive line.
25:43Tied for the second most in the game since 2018.
25:46Had 108 rushing yards on man-blocking concepts in this game.
25:49He now has more yards on man-blocking concepts, 198, this season than any other player in the league.
25:54Josh Allen obviously had some forgettable plays to start this one and why you get the turnovers.
26:00I thought it was very interesting that two of his interceptions came against cover four.
26:04It was a little less blitzing. It was more of, hey, we're just going to drop a lot of these players and
26:11we're going to kind of force Allen to scan the field a little bit here and make him attempt those Superman throws
26:18when he sees it with more guys in coverage.
26:21And it did seem to work for them. And I think that for most days where he throws those interceptions and you
26:28get those turnovers, it works out for you. But that's not what happened in this game.
26:33And to put a button on all of this, Brett, remember the stat that you read that was since 2013, teams with
26:40five plus turnovers and a minus four turnover margin were just 281-1.
26:43The other two times that the team has lost were both the Chargers.
26:48In 2015 against the Denver Broncos and in 2022 against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
26:52Like I said, Chargers fans are used to this.
26:54They're used to this. That is – that – I almost didn't want to read that on the show.
27:00No, that – when the NGS people got us that, I almost was like, we can't do this to these people.
27:07We can't let them know this. As somebody who's done a lot of work with the Chargers, they will be more mad if you didn't mention it.
27:15They want their trauma validated. And on NFL Pro, we will validate your trauma.
27:20Which is a good transition into the next game that we're talking about here because I think the turnovers also were the
27:27main factor of the result of the Seattle Seahawks getting their first loss of the year against the Washington Commanders.
27:33In a game that I would explain like this, Brett.
27:36The Seattle team lost this game for the same reasons that your boomer uncle explains why every football team loses every game.
27:43And that is, ah, the turnover and run to the football.
27:46If you lose a turnover battle and you can't run the football, you're not going to win football games.
27:52I think this was the big, oh, we don't have Kenneth Walker anymore type of game.
27:57And I think that's how we got to the result here.
28:01If you're looking at like from a down-to-down basis, Seattle wasn't like the best rushing team last year.
28:06I mean, they got better as the season went on.
28:09But the explosives that Walker could just create out of nothing, it really did provide balance to the Seahawks offense last year
28:16because it wasn't just, okay, we're getting all of our chunk plays with Darnold and JSN.
28:21And especially as the season went on and teams started clamping more down on JSN, you know, his yards per catch was
28:28really, really high in the first half of the season.
28:31I mean, still high in the second half of the season, but not like astronomical, right?
28:36But they were still able to get explosives out of K-Walk in the second half of last year.
28:42And in this game, maybe it's because Price fumbled early on and then didn't see as much usage.
28:47But you saw the toll that that lack of explosiveness in the run game took where it felt like if they were
28:54going to get a big play, it had to come from Darnold.
28:58It had to go to JSN. And if you make a team one-dimensional, even one as dominant as Seattle, you can get got.
29:05Now, could you criticize the Seahawks coaching staff for going away from Price after the fumble and not letting him just kind
29:12of work through it and still get his touches?
29:15Because we know what Price can do with the ball in his hands, as evidenced in the first couple weeks where he was good.
29:22But yeah, I could criticize the staff for that and maybe being a little gun-shy about giving him more opportunities after that.
29:29But at the same time, it did kind of lay bare that when this team is just the Darnold and JSN show,
29:36it can be a little bit problematic. And they do have to make a concerted effort to be more balanced.
29:42And I think that is something to monitor as the season goes on.
29:47Like, hey, even if you do have an early turnover in the run game, you've got to stick with it.
29:53Like, you really do because those compounding body blows is what led to Kenneth eventually being able to break off an explosive.
30:00And if you don't have early success with the run game, let's say you have a few carries and it doesn't work
30:07and then you stop doing it, well, then you just have a bad run game.
30:11But if you have a few carries that don't work early on but you stick with it, you give your running back
30:18an opportunity to get into the flow of the game and to create, you know, even if you're getting three yards, three yards, two yards, three yards.
30:26If you're getting a 20 yarder out of that, you know, your yards per carry looks good, but it's really that one
30:33explosive that can turn a nothing drive into a scoring drive.
30:37And that makes all the difference. So I really do think that we're seeing the opposite ends of the coin here in
30:44terms of the Chiefs really hammering with Kenneth Walker and allowing him to be himself and how good their offense is versus
30:51Seattle kind of going away from the run game in this one, not allowing their their young back to kind of work through that fumble.
30:58Really putting everything on Darnold and JSN's plate. You end up with a pick six late in the game and oh, you're
31:05down by nine with only a few minutes left and now we can't dig out of that hole.
31:11So I think it's a lesson learned for the Seahawks staff.
31:14Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna ask like do we think the Seahawks have a JSN or nothing problem?
31:21And I don't think that they do. I mean, let's let's also be real about sort of what this game was.
31:27It's not like the commanders were really taking control here.
31:30I think Marcus Mariota did a great job coming in because he's one of the best backup quarterbacks in the league.
31:37We've seen that over the last couple of years.
31:40So you knew he was going to give him a chance to to potentially win this game.
31:45If what happens happens if they win the turnover battle and if the Seahawks sort of abandon the run game and get one dimensional and look what happened.
31:54They won 33 to 31. Seattle had three turnovers in this game.
31:57The commander scored a touchdown off of all three turnovers.
32:01So I mean, that's sort of the difference right there.
32:04It's not like they were blowing anybody out of the way.
32:07It's not like the commanders were really running the ball super well.
32:11I mean, Kroski Merritt had a 1.9 yards per carry average.
32:14Now Rashad White had a 4.4. So obviously that's a lot better.
32:18But still, I mean, you're looking at 71 total rushing yards with this team between those two backs there.
32:24So it's not like they were committed to it.
32:27No, for sure. They committed. It's a difference of if you're looking at run percentage, 49.2% to 28.1%.
32:32Even if it doesn't work, you just kind of got to do it anyway.
32:37Which to go back to everybody's boomer uncle, even if they don't know why it's correct, they know it's correct.
32:43I agree with it. You just got to do it.
32:46But I mean, I think it was interesting that I'm looking at the NGS numbers right now.
32:51Now, even when they were still down three on the scoreboard with four minutes and 30 seconds left in the game.
32:58There was a point when Darnold hit JSN for a 26-yard gain.
33:02And it went to the other side of the field.
33:05It flipped to the other side of the 50.
33:08Seattle had a 55% chance to win this game.
33:10So I mean, like all of what we talked about there.
33:14You know, do they have a JSN problem? Like it's just, it's JSN or nothing.
33:19The turnover issues, not being able to run the ball.
33:22They still had a more than 50% chance to win this game with four minutes and 30 seconds left down on the scoreboard.
33:29I think that speaks to just the type of team that this is and how I wouldn't totally just take this loss
33:36and run with it and say, boy, the Seahawks got exposed in this game.
33:40It's JSN or bust. They don't have anything else.
33:43It can't work. They still scored a lot of points.
33:46They still moved the ball decently well. I think it just comes down to sometimes you can't overcome the turnovers.
33:52And they lost by two in this game. And I think that that's just, that's the story of what it was.
33:59It's not just the turnovers. It's when the turnovers happen, right?
34:02You get a backbreaking pick six late in the fourth quarter.
34:06Yeah. You know, they did come back and again, it was JSN, JSN, JSN.
34:10They scored, but you're up against the clock at that point.
34:14If it's a 70 minute game, yes, Seattle could probably win it.
34:17It's not. It's a 60 minute game. So if that pick six happens late and you're in a close fight, that's how it goes against you.
34:25So I think it's just a learning opportunity all around for Seattle.
34:29It's a very similar lesson that I think they learned last year, which was a big reason why they did the Shahid trade in the first place.
34:38They kind of sense, okay, we need to get another guy here.
34:41And I would rather learn that lesson now in week three than learn it in the playoffs.
34:47So it's a great coaching staff. It's a great team.
34:50They'll make adjustments. I'm not worried about Seattle whatsoever.
34:53I do want to give Washington their flowers, especially Marcus Mariota.
34:56First time that Mariota and Jameis Winston have won a game on the same day in seven years, by the way.
35:03So shout out to the 2015 draft class. I think it's 2015 off the top of my head.
35:08It wasn't the 2015 draft class. Oh, that's right.
35:11Yeah, because Tampa picked first overall. Yeah, I'm very familiar.
35:14Very familiar. Still doing it. Very familiar. Still going.
35:17Still going. But great win for Washington. They needed this one.
35:20Does it count as a draft win? Both guys are still in the league 11 years later.
35:26Oh, yeah. If you're a quarterback that plays in the NFL for over 10 years and you're still starting.
35:32Now, we won't talk about how you're getting to that starting position, but you're still starting games over a decade in.
35:38That's good. So great win overall by Washington. I do not want to discount that whatsoever.
35:43Like they desperately needed this one and they got it.
35:46They played well against one of the inarguably four best teams in the NFL.
35:51This is the kind of game that can really set the tone for the rest of the year.
35:56And it keeps them in the fight to the point where, okay, if we can get Jaden back in insert X number
36:03of weeks, as long as Mariota can keep them in the fight, they're okay.
36:08Like they're still in the hunt for the NFC.
36:10So good win for them. Excellent Sonny Styles game as well.
36:14I just want to point that out. Excellent Sonny Styles game.
36:17Thought he was a bust after the preseason. I thought he was never going to be good after the preseason.
36:23Everybody told me, he's just, no, he's horrible. He'll never get better.
36:27Yeah. And Jamar Chase has a drop problem. Yeah.
36:30Yeah. We've been here before. I do have to transition to Houston versus Indianapolis.
36:34Brother. I'm. Okay. I have rarely been this enraged watching football.
36:38And the unfortunate part is most of the time it's while I'm watching the Houston Texans because this team.
36:44Perhaps only equaled by the Los Angeles Chargers has a talent for losing games.
36:48They should win. They won the turnover battle three to nothing in this game.
36:53Still lost. In fact, there is a curated list.
36:55This comes from a Texans commenter. D'Amico Ryans might have the craziest list of bad losses by any NFL coach in just over three seasons.
37:03That includes this one. It also includes, remember when Jared Goff threw five interceptions?
37:08They lost that game. Boy, do I ever. Yes, I do.
37:11The Titans once allowed eight sacks in a game and beat the Texans.
37:15The Packers were minus three in turnovers, beat the Texans.
37:18These are all recent, by the way, like within the last three years.
37:22CJ Stroud once threw for 353 yards. The defense got five sacks, still lost by 14.
37:27And oh, by the way, the playoff game in January of 2025.
37:31The Texans were the first team to outgain their opponent by 100 yards, not turn the ball over, and lose a postseason game.
37:38Previous teams were 49-0 in the playoffs at that point.
37:41So this is in the last three seasons, the resume the Texans have put together in terms of losing games that statistically are almost impossible to lose.
37:50They have an unbelievable talent for doing so. And a lot of it comes down to not just micro, but really macro, right?
37:57Clock management, go versus punt decisions, go versus kick decisions.
38:00And the clock management in particular, like I have to compose myself.
38:04So let me weave a tale for you. It's inside the two-minute warning.
38:08The Texans have a lead. This is in the game that just happened.
38:12They have a lead. They opt to kick a touchback after scoring, right?
38:16So they're giving Indianapolis the ball on their own 35 rather than the average kick return goes out to the 30.
38:22They're giving them five extra yards. By the way, they only need a field goal to win, guys.
38:28Maybe let's not give them five extra yards in the era of kickers having a week to prep balls before games.
38:35So ranges are higher than ever. And earlier in this game, the Colts kicked a field goal that I believe was 57 yards.
38:42So the range is pretty big, right? So you're starting them at the 35.
38:46They get a 20-yard gain to Laquan Treadwell, who's just back now doing that every week, 11 years into his career.
38:53And so they get a 20-yard gain to Treadwell.
38:56Remember, they just need a field goal to win.
38:58The Texans have three timeouts, and they don't use them.
39:02So the Colts just get up to the line and milk it.
39:05Gets to like 111 on the clock. Get another five yards down to the Texans 40.
39:10You're in field goal range at that point. Again, no timeout, no timeout.
39:14You're just sitting there with three of them in your pocket.
39:18Let it go all the way down to like 26 seconds.
39:21The Colts were bewildered. They're like, what are you guys doing?
39:25You're just letting us win this game. And of course, you know, they kick the field goal.
39:30By the time the Texans get the ball back, they have no timeouts left because they didn't start using them until it was inside of 30 seconds.
39:38There are a lot of coaches that just, they think that just because they have a lead that like the clock is
39:45their friend and like the other team's like, not going to know.
39:49We pulled the fast one on him. Like, ha ha, I reached zero and you totally forgot.
39:54Like, that's just, it's not a viable strategy, I don't think.
39:58But because he did that, when the Texans got the ball back, they didn't have any timeouts left.
40:03And they had 16 seconds on the clock. Right.
40:06So they did it to themselves. It was pretty much the worst way that you could possibly use the timeouts.
40:12You're a multi-billion dollar organization. You can pay an elite Madden player to just sit there on the sideline and tell you when to take timeouts.
40:21And he just won't do it. As a Texans fan, the reason I'm so mad is because this is like the seventh time I've seen this happen.
40:29And they're not getting better at it. And they just sit there after the game and they say, well, we're going to
40:36look at it and we're going to see if we can execute this better.
40:40Yeah, look, I mean, when I look at it, right, if I can make a better decision, I'll look at that and
40:47try to see where I can make a better decision.
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42:24I am losing my mind. Like, I love D'Amico as a coach.
42:28He's great. Except, like, the one thing that a head coach has to be really good at, which is game management.
42:35And they can't get it together. It's bulls**t. I'm tired of it.
42:38Like, I'm just so tired of this. I do want to shout out the Colts, who obviously won this game.
42:45Daniel Jones specifically, there was an area of his game that I thought he was very, very good at.
42:50And that was stuff over the middle of the field and in between the numbers.
42:55In breaking route stuff, he was 12 for 15, 150 yards, one touchdown, and a 130.6 quarterback rating.
43:01With an average of 10 yards per attempt. Not bad, Mr.
43:04Jones. Other than, like, the one, like, shrimp po' boy he threw up into the Enzo.
43:09But, you know, other than that. Other than that.
43:12I just, one time, I want to see the Texans, like, not start 0-3.
43:16Just one time. It would be great. Yeah, better to look next year.
43:20The last week, I can say that because my team currently, if you look at the draft order, they have the number one overall pick.
43:28So, I can say that. I'm allowed to say that.
43:31A team that has no idea. You know, we ironically said we were racing to Jeremiah Smith.
43:37Now, I think we actually are racing to Jeremiah Smith.
43:40I actually, I actually, I just, I just realized this.
43:43The Bucs are picking number one. If the draft were to be this weekend, the Bucs are picking one.
43:49The Texans are picking two. Look at us. That's why you watch NFL Pro, folks.
43:54Because not only are we going to give you the NFL analysis during the season, you know we're paying attention to the draft.
44:01You know we are. Because we have to. We're going to be the first show that does our first mock draft.
44:07After like week five. I'll do it tomorrow. A team that has no idea what we're talking about is the Las Vegas Raiders.
44:14Who, yes, the Las Vegas Raiders, folks. Do not adjust your dial.
44:18You heard me crystal clear. 3-0 on the season.
44:2135-27 victory over the New Orleans Saints. I hate to sound like a broken record, but truly, turnovers told the story here.
44:28And mainly the fact that the New Orleans Saints had four turnovers in the fourth quarter.
44:33That's pretty crazy. I didn't think that was possible, dude.
44:36Now, a big factor in two of those turnovers, Brad, is that two of them came while the Saints were within scoring distance.
44:43So field goal distance at least, but you know, you're kind of marching.
44:47And I think that part of it makes a big deal.
44:51We talk about, hey, where's the turnover and where's the field position and everything.
44:55Now, a lot of times we talk about it for the team that just, you know, either picked up the fumble or intercepted the football.
45:03They got the football. Okay, where are they starting?
45:06But also, I tend to think about it for the team that just turned the ball over as well.
45:12Where were you in the drive? Like, were you really expected to add some points there or not?
45:17Because that all of a sudden vanishes when you do that.
45:21The Saints had an 85% chance to win the game when the fourth quarter started.
45:25Are you serious? 85% chance to win the game.
45:28Oh my God. And then they had the four turnovers.
45:31I think something that the Saints did in this game is the blitz rate was 15.9% from the Las Vegas Raiders in this game.
45:39And I think that they watched NFL Pro and heard us talk about the fact that Tyler Shuck has the most passing
45:46yards under pressure going into week three of any quarterback.
45:49And they said, all right, fine. We're just going to sit back.
45:53We're going to rush three or we're going to rush four.
45:56No more. We're going to sit back in coverage and we're going to wait for you to potentially make a mistake.
46:03And Shuck didn't make all the mistakes. It's not like all four turnovers were interceptions for him.
46:08But it became more difficult for them to move the ball.
46:11So I think that that's a hat tip to what the Raiders did in their coaching staff.
46:17But I also want to hat tip Clint Kubiak and the offensive side of the ball.
46:22Because, look, is Kirk Cousins the most spry, young, talented, hot shot, big arm quarterback in the NFL right now?
46:28No, he is not. But he is exactly what I think the Raiders want for their football team right now.
46:34And there's a reason why Fernando Mendoza is on the bench.
46:38Not only for his own development, but also because Kirk can orchestrate this offense the way they want it to.
46:44When it comes to the fourth quarter, he was four for four for 45 yards and two touchdowns and a perfect quarterback rating.
46:51The offensive line, they gave up three sacks before their five offensive linemen had a pressure percentage below 10.
46:57The outside zone rush game, which is a staple for Clint Kubiak, was cooking in the fourth quarter of this game.
47:03They were able to combine that with quick passes, play-action passes, getting the ball out of Kirk's hand.
47:09And also letting him scan the field with a tight end heavy offense that I think really lends itself to Kirk being
47:16able to attack over the middle of the field and dissect zone coverages.
47:20Something that he was just masterful of in this game.
47:23So, are the Raiders the most explosive offense in the NFL?
47:27No, I don't think that that's the case. But when this young, confident defense can get you a couple of turnovers, Kirk
47:33Cousins in this offense is able to orchestrate and sustain drives to put up points to legitimately win football games.
47:40And we're seeing that with them being 3-0. And I think that it is an awesome identification of where this team is,
47:47what they do well, what they might not do well, and getting much more out of the former rather than the latter.
47:53It can just sometimes be night and day when you get the right coach in there.
47:58Even right away. You know, earlier this season, which is like a week ago at this point, you know, we were talking
48:05about how the Raiders offense was like really inefficient, right?
48:0813 possessions, only three got to the red zone last week.
48:12Two of those were because of turnovers. We're like, man, this offense just isn't really efficient.
48:17The defense is playing really well, but they need some balance offensively.
48:21Well, you get Brock Bowers back, somehow you get offensive balance just like that when you get a superstar, not even tight end, just superstar weapon.
48:29Kirk had 22 completions in this game. Ten of them went to Bowers.
48:33He was an immediate difference maker for this team.
48:36Once again, Ashton Gentty under three yards per carry again this week.
48:39But it didn't matter as much because he still got 19 attempts.
48:43So they were keeping defenses honest. Like you, even if he's not succeeding with those attempts, the fact that they're still keeping
48:50the run rate high means the defense has to play those run pass percentages, which means the play action game is going to be better.
48:58And it means you're more likely to get, you know, advantageous matchups with Brock Bowers.
49:02And he was abusing everybody. Even corners couldn't handle Bowers today.
49:06Ten catches for a buck 16 and a touchdown.
49:09Didn't matter who was guarding him. He was incredible.
49:12And this is the first time this Clint Kubiak offense has looked like the Kubiak offense in Seattle, where it's we're committing to the run.
49:19Even if we're not necessarily efficient from carry to carry, we'll get a couple explosives here and there.
49:25And as long as we have our one superstar weapon, JSN in Seattle, Bowers in Vegas, as long as we have that
49:32one guy we can build the plane out of, we're going to be effective.
49:36And they put up 35 points and won the game.
49:39They're 3-0. So this Raiders team is scrappy. Are they perfect?
49:43No, they're not even close. But they're good enough to keep Mendoza on the bench, which I think is excellent for the
49:502027 and 2028 Raiders, in addition to being great for the 2026 Raiders.
49:54I feel like Week 3 is always an indicator of maybe how the rest of the season is going to go, right?
50:01We know that Week 1, like we talked about, can be a liar sometimes.
50:05So many different things sort of show up in Week 2.
50:08You get some stinkers. You get some teams that kind of come out of nowhere.
50:13But then in Week 3, are the teams that are really good that they just start blowing everybody out and we kind
50:20of know what the season's going to be? We had so many close games in Week 3 that I think that tells
50:27you the parody is going to be wild the entire season.
50:30We didn't even get to all of them in this show.
50:34But man, if Week 3 is any indicator, like I think that it is, we are in for a hell of a 2026 season.
50:41Shout out to everybody at NGS. Working super hard to get us all of these numbers for us to do this show right away.
50:49Shout out to the producers making it happen. For Brett Coleman, I'm Trevor Sikama saying thank you guys so much for watching
50:56this reaction show episode of Week 3. We'll see you later on.
50:59See you guys. Thanks for listening to our Week 3 reaction podcast.
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