0:00It is noon on YouTube which means of course it is five o'clock somewhere brothers and sisters friends of the revolution the
0:06happy hour bar is officially open I am your friendly neighborhood bartender Matthew Berry and we have got a great show for
0:12you today drinking free today at the happy hour bar it is Ken Walker Ken Walker Ken Walker drinks free today and
0:19every day Jake Seeley Jake of course we all follow you on x at all in kid and we read all of
0:25your content over at the athletic thank you for joining me my friend how are you brother I'm doing great after a
0:31lot of Kenneth Walker shares last night I know you have to be too absolutely look Kenneth Walker was a um and
0:37we'll get into it we got a week two waiver wire um we'll get uh we'll get right into everything here but
0:43um like I was so all in on Ken Walker I have a massive amount of Kenneth Walker shares I had him
0:49as my running back six going into the season so higher than Saquon higher than Derrick Henry higher than a lot of
0:56other guys that we're going ahead of him in various drafts um as Greg Lau 100 says Jake freaking Seeley Greg Lau
1:02apparently very excited Jake um uh the sealer I'm not sure that works may K okay um uh we we add lure
1:08to everything like it started with a traveler I'm the ankler or the excuse lure depending on where you get to um
1:14but uh but anyway like um uh let's see exhausted Texans fans Ken Walker explosion and Jake Jake's good head of lettuce
1:20today will be a good show you do have a good head of lettuce my friend um she's the one that she's
1:26the one that told me to start growing it out that that's all the wife is your wife okay nice job by
1:33the way are you are you coming to me live from a comic book store what the hell is this background where
1:39are you what is going on back there I mean basically I mean everything the band kicker shirt like this is what
1:45happens when you start in the industry 20 years ago almost now I'd be like man my backdrop's kind of empty and
1:51then being the person I am uh it just kept snowballing over the years and it just never stopped yeah you're a
1:57hoarder I get it all right yeah you're like you should be on that show hoarders like a lot going on back
2:04there but uh Jake everybody thinks we're in our mom's basements anyway right so it's fair it's fair I'm in my mom's
2:10liquor cabinet um listen Jake you do a great job I've you and I've been friends for years I've followed your work
2:16for a long time you do great work so I'm thrilled that you're here and yeah specifically about Ken Walker like have
2:22a ton of shares of him I was sounds like you do as well um you know he was he was one
2:28of my finalists for my ride or die um which after week one you don't want to victory lap too much after
2:34week one the finalists are looking pretty good finalists were Ken Walker Ladd McConkie Chase Brown Colston Loveland um uh and then
2:41um right exactly so I can't I can't victory lap too much because Colston Loveland was literally my runner-up for ride or
2:47die um I'm trying to I'm trying to hang tight to route participation uh at the moment that's all I've got I
2:53I hold it tight when I go to bed at night and cry crying to my route participation shares but um and
2:59Devante Smith was my actual ride or die so um but yes I'm Ken Walker Ken the man Walker Jake Seeley uh
3:05I mean let's just dive right into it I think to me other than the fact that he looked awesome uh is
3:11the fact that he had a 24 target share like he was tied for the team lead and I think some of
3:18that was because Patrick didn't look great and he was under pressure a lot and you know it felt like he was
3:24short arming a lot of throws but still you're telling me Ken Walker can get you know even if even if it
3:30goes down even it was a little bit but like if you're telling me he gets a 15 target share the rest
3:36of the year tells me he gets a 17 target share I'm all in um Jake so here's my question and I
3:42think you're I think I know the answer it but my question is buy or sell this premise Ken Walker is a
3:49top five fantasy running back the rest of the way a hundred percent buy and I had him just outside there you
3:55were a little bit higher than I was but it really comes down to what we heard the entire offseason was not
4:01just they're going to involve him in the passing game but they were designing their running back passing game around Kenneth Walker
4:07if we got that target share the argument that I was making for taking him over Gentty was that all the argument
4:13for Gentty getting all those receptions and all the workload and everything like that I'm like well you're getting that but on
4:19the Chiefs so I love Ken Walker and then on top of it the crazy one that I think that a lot
4:26of people miss and I know you saw this too negative yards before contact last night he actually had almost 120 percent
4:32of his yards after contact because of that because he has that home run play this is what we were yelling for
4:38years for for the Seahawks to do is to stop involving Charbonnet and Charbonnet was a great talent before being hurt so
4:44it's hard not to but bell cow Kenneth Walker getting 20 touches a week I mean honestly last night was almost 25
4:50if we've sit in this world where even it's 18 plus and he ends up with 350 touches top five might be
4:56too low he might be in that tier one conversation with Bijon or Bijon and Gibbs I said this I I you
5:03know you go back and you see there's I forget what show I did it on they all sort of run together
5:09but when when talking about Ken Walker in the preseason I said this I said I don't know how likely it is
5:15but number one running back in fantasy football is within the range of outcomes for Ken Walker again in a world where
5:21Bijon Robinson and Jimmie Gibbs stay healthy I think it's unlikely but it's not a zero percent chance there's not a zero
5:27percent chance that Ken Walker winds up this year as the number one running back in fantasy last question on Walker here
5:33and then we'll move on is there because I did see some of this so 26 touches yesterday 23 carries three receptions
5:4026 touches for Ken Walker and and more or less a blowout win the concern that I saw some people online like
5:46yeah this is awesome it's week one talk to me if he still can do this in week 10 people are worried
5:52about the injuries with Walker especially given the workload that we saw last night are you in that camp Jake I am
5:58not at all I don't like to play the injury game unless it's something like Jordan Tyson you know multiple hamstring injuries
6:04soft tissue industry industries injuries are something that I'll pay attention to but not with him and you'll remember this you go
6:11back further than I do and you help me even start where I'm at Jake is that no no Jake did you
6:17slip in an old joke I think you did so it's fair I do go back longer than you but I feel
6:23like you just slipped in an old joke which is all right I see how we're playing this you hoarder I was
6:29also trying to give you credit for helping me get to this career point at the athletic by the way so you
6:35kind of glossed over that part but I will say Leonard Fournette was hurt hurt hurt hurt until he wasn't hurt he
6:41was hurt twice in college he was hurt first two years of his career and then he was healthy one of the
6:48best running backs in the game I always use him just because everybody's injury prone until they're not everybody's healthy until they
6:54get hurt we can try to play the game but I feel it's more of a fool's errand so I'm not worried
7:00but Kenneth Walker let me push it back to you Matt for everybody that's doing this everybody's like oh Kenneth Walker and
7:06he has to hold up what about the smaller Jameer Gibbs getting 25 touches a game we're not worried about that so
7:12we could play the game both ways a thousand percent and what I would say to the people that are concerned about
7:18the injury here is like yes injuries it's a violent game and injuries can happen anyone else it's interesting right as we
7:25sit here and think about we'll get into the waivers here in a minute but you think about sort of who we're
7:31talking about being banged up John Stribbling AJ Brown Kyler Murray like you know what I mean like we're not talking about
7:37any running backs like it's all wide receipt you know like all the injuries are like you know wide receivers wide receivers
7:43Bowers was out it's wide wide receivers tight ends and quarterbacks right no running backs got hurt in week one um as
7:49well and the running backs that we thought that were hurt Ashton Gentry Jeremiah Love they both looked fine you know they
7:56both they both played in week one so I'm with you my only the only thing would be is this like the
8:02other thing that last night proved is that Emmett Johnson is clearly the backup running back to Ken Walker so you know
8:08again he's probably out there in a decent amount of leagues in in a world where he's rostered by somebody that that
8:14isn't the Ken Walker manager try to make an acquisition for him a little bit um it's clear that he's only going
8:20to be an insurance back as long as Ken Walker is healthy he's going to get a massive workload but um that
8:26was what was the interesting there thing there and uh quickly you're very kind Jake you got yourself to the athletic your
8:33talent got yourself to the athletic your work ethic got yourself to the athletic I was happy to give you some advice
8:39um which I'm happy to do to anyone in the industry because I am old and have been doing this a long
8:45time and I've seen a lot of stuff but to be clear you know you know I'm you know I'm a fan
8:51and supporter um and always have been always will be but uh to be clear you got yourself to the athletic I
8:57had nothing to do with that so um thank you uh let's move on to uh the Broncos offense um um so
9:03this is so awesome uh this is this is so awesome so I'm in a guillotine league with all the regulars of
9:10uh all the regulars the fantasy football happy hour regulars so it's me and 17 other people and last night going into
9:16Monday football I was done Jamar Chase was my number one pick in this it's an 18 team league right it's an
9:2218 team guillotine league so Jamar Chase was my number one pick and I was done I had like 75 points so
9:28uh Brian Hickman was behind me he had 73 points and I'm like and he had one player to go Jalen Waddle
9:34I'm like all right well I'm losing to him so now it's between me and me and raise the flags right me
9:41and raise the flags and raise the flags he's like at 70 points like I'm at I'm at 70 I'm at 75
9:47he's at 71 sorry like I'm at 75 points he's at 71 and he has Cortland Sutton so I'm like my only
9:53chance at surviving this week is if Cortland Sutton somehow gets under four fantasy points and when tweeted out I forgot I
9:59mentioned three but it was basically four points and what do you know not only did I not get cut Jake Seeley
10:05I finished I didn't even finish second to last because Brian Hickman should thank his lucky stars because if it wasn't for
10:11Cortland Sutton you know he'd have been cut because Jalen Waddle just 1.2 points so um as uh let's see uh family
10:18says did raise the flags get enough points from Sutton to chop Berry he did not he did not family he did
10:24not it's uh SEC man says I think it's lower the flags today that's right it is lower the flags it's outrageous
10:30I love raise the flags he's been one of one of the one of the best uh viewers and uh you know
10:36contributors to the show um he was in the regulars uh listener league for a reason uh he's the best I do
10:42love raise the flags diehard Tampa Bay fan um but raise the flags better you than me as uh raise the flag
10:48says yeah flags are at half mast I feel you brother I feel you I feel bad for you I don't feel
10:55bad enough to you know do anything like it is what it is like I have to live another day it's better
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12:21Platypus Economics available now wherever you get your podcasts all that's a long way to intro in addition to just giving some
12:27crap to Brian Hickman and raise the flags Jake Seeley what panic level should we have on this Broncos offense because Sean
12:33Payton it was mentioned on the show on the broadcast last night a couple of times Sean Payton told his wife to
12:40draft Jalen Waddle in fantasy is Sean Payton getting divorced this morning where are we at with the Broncos offense uh he
12:46he might be from Davis Webb I felt like he was like chomping at the bit to say something in the second
12:52half but I'll say if I was giving it a scale of five it's a one right now I reference this all
12:58the time here this is another one I go back as far as this one so so do you is Eli Manning
13:04at the peak of his career you'll remember when they overhauled the entire offense in the offseason made the Gilbride change and
13:10offensive coordinator took them six games for Eli Manning to look like Eli Manning for that offense to function in their new
13:17way so I know it's not a complete overhaul I'm bringing up for basically a lot of the offenses that did have
13:23overhauls but part of this too is Davis Webb and it's not just Davis Webb and the Broncos it was Davis Webb
13:29and the Broncos facing Spagnuolo who's probably going to have like a Hall of Fame resume for defensive coordinators let's give him
13:35a lot of credit in this one so I'm mildly concerned the one really comes down to I'm not the biggest Bo
13:41Nix guy but I'm giving him a pass I'm giving a pass to Waddle a little lesser than Sutton because I'm a
13:48little bit worried about the Pat Bryant involvement but the offensive line for one that was the best the past two years
13:54are among the best the past two years they let a little bit too much pressure that entire game so that's where
14:00my one concern comes from Davis Webb and the offense are going to have better days but I would say that the
14:06offensive line I want to see play better next week you and I are in complete lockstep here I'm not worried about
14:12Jalen Waddle he's a special player they will figure out way like Davis Webb will either figure out a way to get
14:18him the ball or Davis Webb won't become plays anymore like that's going to happen and yes you are on there you
14:25know rookie play caller you know rookie play caller on the road at Arrowhead against Spags a thousand percent to a team
14:31that you know by the way and they got you know like the you know the Broncos are coming in but like
14:37we won the division last year we're you know we were the runner-ups of the AFC and you know you guys suck
14:43now and so I mean a lot of chips on the shoulder for um uh for the Chiefs of course and there's
14:49no way that Kansas City was going to lose in front of Taylor Swift and Tom Cruise you just can't do that
14:55you can't do that in front of American royalty absolutely not there was never going to be a chance so I'm completely
15:02fine on Jalen Waddle he'll be I'm not worried about it he had the bad drop whatever he's Jalen Waddle he'll be
15:08fine I'm I was out on Sutton this year obviously nothing because I do think that um you know my concern on
15:14Sutton was that he was on the preseason hate list and it was all about the fact that like he was somebody
15:20that throughout his career has needed volume to get there you know he he's decent he's a good red zone threat but
15:26generally speaking he's needed volume and we just with the addition of Waddle with all the young guys Marvin Mims Troy Franklin
15:33and of course Pat Bryant I just didn't know that he was going to get the volume and obviously after week one
15:39it didn't seem like he was going to and they were using Evan Ingram a lot more Evan Ingram got a lot
15:45more usage than I thought he was going to he looked pretty good I was like oh yeah that's right Evan Ingram's
15:51on this team so um Pat Bryant I think is interesting and I do think he's somebody worth considering as we get
15:57into waivers here team high 22 percent target share four for 42.
16:01we heard a lot of uh training camp reports that you know he was sort of the star of training camp and
16:07nothing we saw on Monday night Jake makes me think that that was incorrect so I do think Pat Bryant is somebody
16:13that should be picked up in a lot more leagues if he's available in your side before we get into waivers though
16:19I do have a question for you Jake I do have a question for you what am I wearing Jake what am
16:25I wearing the flex championship chain there we go there we go shout out trophies back yeah what do you explain what
16:31do you explain to the good people what I'm wearing here Jake Seeley uh a championship in the best bowl flex leagues
16:38uh they have multiples live and you're in the best bowl not only that that you pretty much had with three weeks
16:44to go and nobody could chase you down at the end of the season so kudos to you you basically ran away
16:50with that one last year I did and you know what I did in 2023 the same damn thing the same damn
16:56thing it's your second one yeah two of the last three years can you do me a favor Jake can you pull
17:02up real quickly just the list of all so flex stands while I'm while I'm explaining this can you put the list
17:09of everyone that's in that league that was in that league last year so flex stands for fantasy league of experts Jake
17:15Seeley runs these these are expert leagues they he has like you know one quarterback super flex I I'm in too many
17:21managed leagues as it is so I do the flex best ball league I've done it like I think this is my
17:27fourth year participating it I've only won two of the three years I've been in it no big deal NDD just saying
17:33but can you just do me a favor there uh Jake Seeley just do me a favor as I sit here with
17:39my uh with my flavor Flav here um uh go ahead read off read of all the people that lost to me
17:46last year I did uh after having Brian Thomas and uh Terry McLaurin to start that draft that was a lot of
17:52fun yeah uh Pete over that Adam Azer hang on for a second Peter over is that the the original best ball
17:58bro Peter over is that the legend Peter over is that fantasy by 200 points 200 points you topped him by I
18:04mean he's a legend in best ball just not in in a best ball league that I'm in no big deal all
18:10right go ahead so Adam Azer CBS Pat Fitzmorris Pat Thorman uh Andrew Erickson Marcus Grant uh another one of yours Matthew
18:16Friedman uh so you got that too Matt Harmon Bob Harris the godfather uh Nando DeFino he always loved beating that smiley
18:23guy yep uh John Daigle and Scott Fish that's a lot of those are those are all people that I respect a
18:29lot I I respect them a little bit less because I beat them all like like a you know like I'd crushed
18:35them like a grape last year uh you know Matthew 2 Chainz Berry yeah yeah exactly Ved forget the ankler the excuse
18:41alert today it's the gloatler that's right Jake Seeley ran this league sent me this trophy God bless you uh Jake Seeley
18:47I'm gonna wear this for the rest of the uh Michelle I'll tell you what six of those people you beat them
18:54in 2023 too because there was other people that were in that league that year so the six of those same people
19:00you got beat twice gluttons for punishment they keep coming back I don't know how many times I gotta teach them a
19:06lesson it is what it is um Greg Louse saying Barry looks like Kirk cousins with his airplane chains on I do
19:12it is a little it is a little Kirk Cousinsy I did it is a little it is a little old man
19:18all right um uh all right Jake Seeley let's get into some actual uh waiver wire talk here uh I want to
19:24start with Wade wide receivers because I feel like that's the biggest um yeah that's the biggest area of opportunity here and
19:31there's a lot of them here real quickly it's just worth noting if Jalen Coker is still available in your league he's
19:37out there in about 39 percent of leagues he's the obvious number one choice Romeo Dobbs he's available in 46 percent increased
19:43target share with AJ Brown out those would be my two top guys if they're available but we're using a 50 percent
19:49available mark so we look at you know at fantasylife.com of course we've got tools that look at at waiver availability and
19:55roster percentages across every platform wherever you could possibly play um uh and so we look at that so these are players
20:01that are available in over 51 percent of leagues in pretty much across the across the industry and my number one choice
20:08here I think is Deebo Samuel right with the injury to Stribling 21 target share in week one had three ends red
20:14zone targets as well um Stribling's gonna miss the Strib Club is gonna be closed for at least a month um and
20:20I prefer Deebo to Demarcus Robinson if you're investing in the 49ers passing game which I think is gonna be pretty good
20:26Jake what say you I say I I agree I don't know if Deebo is my number one only because I hope
20:32the uptick in route share comes and I will say because in game uh you saw that everybody did is that his
20:39only went up about five to ten percent the Demarcus Robinson basically took over the role for Stribling which Stribling was running
20:45out there as the one slash two when he was the two and so I don't think that continues because it's Deebo
20:51and let's be honest Deebo looked like he did two three years ago like he didn't look like last year's Deebo so
20:57I'm hoping that carries over especially with that target share with Brock Purdy it's just a little hesitation the fact that Kittle
21:03was only out there 40 percent of the time coming back from his injury um so does he see that same volume
21:09if you told me going forward not even 22 if you just told me 17 going forward Deebo will be locked and
21:16I'll be like go get him up there with Coker uh I'm just a little bit more hesitant in the fact that
21:22I see the two names behind him and I think there might be a higher ceiling especially with the third one which
21:28we'll get to uh I feel like Devon Vele is in the same conversation for Deebo just because I feel like both
21:34their windows are temporary on the person that's being out um and I'm hope like I said I'm hoping for more from
21:40Deebo if he's locked into that 60 65 percent role which was basically Stefan Diggs last year we might only be getting
21:46wide receiver three which isn't a bad thing yeah the only argument on Deebo is I just think again it's clear that
21:53and we'll get to this in the running backs but it's clear that they don't want McCaffrey to have as big a
21:59workload as last year and so they will use Deebo some in the in the running game as well uh row row
22:05Deebo says SEC man sure you get that but not bad all right it rhymes I'm I'm a big fan of rhyming
22:11um anyway I think maybe it's Ro Ro Ro Deebo oh yeah okay or better oh that's not bad yeah as a
22:17team name not bad Ro Ro Ro Deebo all right good I got it I'm now I'm in I'm in um so
22:23anyway so that's my only thing and I just uh the the rest of the guys that we're gonna mention I don't
22:30think any of them are on his offense as good as the 49ers so that was my argument was proven proven player
22:36in a proven system on an offense that I like an opportunity but I agree with you like I just I feel
22:42like Demarcus Robinson's just never been a full-time player and that in a in a week in which Shannon knows like to
22:48me what happened against the Rams was like crap we have this game plan uh you know Stripling's out Robinson you can
22:54run those routes you just go do that but in a week where he knows he doesn't have Stripling he's gonna design
23:01you you know and Debo looked good okay let me design some more stuff that you know features Debo is the only
23:07thought there but worth noting Robinson did run the second most routes among the Niners wide receivers in week number one you
23:13mentioned Devon Vele who's my number two choice talk to me about the number two wide receiver for your New Orleans Saints
23:19yeah well look at last year is overlooked and it's a small sample as always a lot of these things are but
23:25weeks 12 through 15 when he was healthy and after Shahid was gone talking about top 25 wide receiver I think a
23:31lot of people didn't even notice that last year because all the focus was on Chris Alave and the fact that Shuck
23:38was playing well the targets are going to be there even with Juwan Johnson getting his the concern this is why I
23:44would take Debo and you said the better offense is that if you just take the first 35-40 minutes of that game
23:50nobody was really doing much of anything Vele was doing a little bit but it was mostly Alave and Shuck looked like
23:56he had never played quarterback before so they say that the Saints don't have that issue against better defenses or potentially in
24:02other situations is why Vele is behind him but he's somebody that at least until Tyson comes back which is if when
24:08and then how many games is it going to take for Tyson to ramp up you can at least get Vele as
24:15I'd say PPR low NY receiver three half nine probably a wide receiver four but again that's valuable 92% route participation 17%
24:21target share Kellen Moore's offense has always played a very high pace so and that defense didn't make you think like I
24:27think the Saints are going to be in a lot of shootouts like that this season as well by the way Devon
24:33Bailey ranked top 10 among all wide receivers in utilization score utilization score is a metric created by our own Dwayne McFarland
24:39his utilization report is up now for free at fantasylife.com it is with all due respect to you Jake and the work
24:46that I do as well to me Dwayne McFarland's utilization report is the most useful article in fantasy football every single week
24:52and that includes everything that I write dead serious I check it every week yeah unbelievable Dwayne is Dwayne is absolutely the
24:58best so anyway uh Vela was top 10 among wide receivers in utilization score now this is interesting one of the guys
25:04that you're mentioning here I think and you probably agree with me I think that Chris Bell is the most talented rookie
25:10on the Dolphins but Caleb Douglas was the guy that got all the work he led the Dolphins and receptions and receiving
25:16yards in week one 86% route participation 26% target share he had three deep targets you know and so Caleb Douglas you
25:23know five for 94 over 14 fantasy points on a team that doesn't have a lot of options suddenly becomes interesting yeah
25:29I I basically called him Cedric Tillman if Cedric Tillman could play football that's basically what you're looking for those big plays
25:35club set is always open I said to Tillman uh damn it but it's the comparison of like being able to actually
25:41catch the balls and run a little bit more routes but let's be clear I 100% Chris Bell is the better talent
25:47Chris Bell would have been a first round draft pick if not for the injury so Chris Bell is coming for a
25:53top two role Malik Washington alligator arming a pass and fumbling in the second half you just threw the door open for
26:00Chris Bell to come through as long as he's 100% integrated into this offense but until then and even then Malik wills
26:06here's the funny thing Matthew is like we did this entire before free agency everybody's like oh somebody's going to get a
26:12value with Malik Willis he's going to be a good quarterback he's going to get the opportunity to be a starter he
26:18goes to the Dolphins and then all of a sudden everybody's like ah he sucks like just because he went to Dolphins
26:24we know the Dolphins stink but it's not Malik Willis and there were questionable passes there were some bad throws the Raiders
26:31got after it I have concerns about that offensive line but he can support the big plays big throws that we saw
26:37previous to being with the Dolphins which is why that's why I was bringing up Douglas for ceiling if you told me
26:43Debo Vele or Douglas who can potentially be a shock top 25 my pick would actually be Douglas despite having easily the
26:49biggest risk of the three yeah and we'll talk about Willis a little bit later coming up in quarterbacks but like as
26:55though it wasn't always pretty but as we talked about throughout the preseason he was on the preseason levelist as well and
27:01in terms of from ADP like the rushing always gives you a floor there like he the questions are gonna be out
27:08as to whether or not uh Malik Willis can be a real-life NFL quarterback but fantasy wise he can absolutely be an
27:14asset yeah um let's talk about uh Denzel Boston from the uh from the Browns he's at Tampa Bay this week that
27:20secondary doesn't scare you 97 route participation in week one 58 percent of the team's air yards we still prefer or at
27:26least I do Casey Concepcion but they are gonna take deep shots to Boston he is a he is a talent very
27:32talented young wide receiver and you know he caught the long touchdown yeah and it comes down to basically that's all Watson
27:38can do at this point he knows he can't throw it to a player so he just heaves it downfield and hopes
27:45Boston can go run underneath it that's really what it comes down to so Watson's gonna take his shots he's gonna take
27:51three four five of them every single week but that's what makes Boston intriguing you just have to know and I'm sure
27:57everybody does this is what you get with a wide receiver like that he's not more than a wide receiver for even
28:03running as the one you mentioned Concepcion even though he's third in routes he was the top utilized one and they've talked
28:09about ways to be in the backfield even for him which might even happen more now that they have the injury the
28:16Samson but all that being said Boston's gonna be what Boston is he's gonna get you two or 15 and there's gonna
28:22be no in between so just ride that roller coaster and that's if you don't want to do it don't sign up
28:28for it I also think we've get one more week of Deshaun Watson I think Shadur starts week three I hope you're
28:34right Watson looked like he was actively trying to get benched to get that paycheck and just stop playing I mean it's
28:40it's it's tough it was a tough watch so I think he gets one more week and then I think uh especially
28:46going back they'll be on the road at Tampa Bay Buccaneers angry after losing to Cincy I think Watson will look bad
28:53again this week and then I think Shadur in week three uh as well last one here um look you know we
28:59love lad McConkie one of one of the runners of ride or die but he leaves with that chest injury which may
29:05maybe opens the door for Trey Harris Jake Seeley I would say it does he clearly looked like he was the next
29:11one up and I know there's other talk about the other options but the tight ends are a mess and McDaniel told
29:17us that was gonna happen and that everybody was out there I think in Joku led with 40 45 percent of the
29:23routes so yeah if there's no lad McConkie it's Trey Harris he won't be playing the slot as much as lad does
29:30because we know Darius Davis would come in and mix in but we're not worried about Davis when it comes to that
29:36especially because we were trying to figure out who was who whether you know who was going to be Tyreek Hill on
29:42this team the answer right now is nobody um but I still think there's a chance that if you're looking for the
29:48exact replication I thought it could be Johnston because obviously Waddle slash McConkie but Trey Harris might fit that role a little
29:54bit more so if you're in a deeper league and Lad McConkie's out I would definitely take a chance on Trey even
30:00if you don't use him because if Lad's out two three four weeks and Trey pops off you know people are going
30:07to be going crazy for him come next week no question let's go ahead and take a look at our top weight
30:13wide receiver waiver ads for week number two I believe we have a graphic built there you go in order this is
30:19at least my order Jake might have a slightly different order but it is my show uh Debo Samuel Devon Bailey Caleb
30:25Douglas Denzel Boston Trey Harris and then some others kind of receiving votes Adonai Mitchell tied for the team lead in routes
30:31run Omar Cooper dealing with that ankle sprain how about Kendrick Bourne 22 percent target share in week one he ran only
30:38four fewer routes than Marvin Harrison Marv where are you you're on a milk carton brother Rashad Bateman you know Rashad friend
30:44of the podcast so I don't want to say anything but you know listen it's been an up and down career for
30:50Rashad Bateman but Zay Flowers is dealing with a hammy Jacoby Lane with that wrist there's a chance that Rashad Bateman could
30:56have a expanded role here and I just have to mention Khalif Raymond who had a 35 target share you want as
31:02many pieces of this Bears offense now he only had a he had an under 60 percent route participation he's a part-time
31:08player I think you've seen Khalif Raymond's best game of the year by far but it's worth mentioning just you know he
31:15was out there for Caleb Williams and I think you want as much of this Bears offense as possible in a deeper
31:21league maybe he's interesting Khalif Raymond um any names uh out there that you want to mention real quickly that uh that
31:27jump out at you on that list or um or otherwise I'll echo the Raymond thing especially because everybody's stashing Tesla in
31:33case something happens there everybody's stashing Yoshivas in case something happened Khalif Raymond deserves to be in that conversation as well now
31:39because Ben Johnson basically brought him over and treated him the way that he did with the with the Lions that Adonai
31:45Mitchell intrigues me because we knew about the off the field situations and the character and all I like is he coachable
31:52and all that stuff coming out of college which is part of the reason he switched teams or got sent off to
31:58the Jets and we've seen what he can do though we know the talent and that he can get free and oh
32:04by the way Geno Smith still a capable quarterback uh I'm going to take a chance on Mitchell especially as you brought
32:10that up too Cooper the injury is out for some time so Mitchell has that and now is going to have freeway
32:16to keep that role yeah just again deeper leagues other guys I'll just mention real quickly Antonio Williams I think only ran
32:2311 routes but certainly encouraging performance for him for the commanders hopefully that leads to more playing time as the three in
32:29an offense that should be decent DeMario Douglas is going to get more playing time with AJ Brown out as well as
32:35will Mac Collins so both those guys again I still think Dobbs despite the tough game week one is the Patriots wide
32:41receiver you want while Brown is out but certainly there'll be an increased role for Pop Douglas and Mac Collins let's move
32:47on to what running back waivers we have 20 minutes left here Jake so we'll have to move a little bit quicker
32:53but um there's not really to me the the area where you're in the you really want to focus as wide receiver
33:00because there wasn't a lot else out there but um you know it was encouraging to see as much uh well not
33:06if you have CMC but Kalen Black looked good right same number of touches of CMC in week one he led the
33:12team in rush attempts played 44 percent of the snaps he actually out snapped CMC uh 26 to 25 on first and
33:18second down now again I think some of that was first game of the season uh how the game score they're over
33:24in Australia it's weird there were reports that CMC cramped up a little bit but Kalen Black needs to be rostered in
33:30pretty much every league because Chris McCaffrey is rostered in every league 100 exactly to a tee what you just said because
33:37even if Kalen Black goes to 20 of the touches next week and you can never start him it's he's behind CMC
33:43if you're the CMC manager this is for people that still play the archaic burn your waiver priority you burn the waiver
33:49priority because if something happens to CMC the biggest answer here is we did the Jordan James we did Garendo last year
33:55and times before it's who's next up the 49ers told us 100 with that Jordan James injury that Black took the job
34:01and it is 100 his job the best case scenario is that that continues and they ease off CMC this year and
34:08then he ends up being a flex play where you know some weeks you won't get a lot but you can desperation
34:14start him as that RB3 flex so you know if you had Algier you know waiting for Jeremiah Love I'd make the
34:20swap because again this is assuming that that's the only drop you can make but the ceiling for Black is a potential
34:26RB1 if CMC gets hurt I think Algier has a cap Brian Robinson has a cap behind Bijon and all the rest
34:32Black is probably the one or two when it comes to pure handcuffs completely agree he's up there in the tank bigsby
34:38conversation in terms of like you know if something were to happen at the starter in front of him this guy would
34:45immediately slide in as an RB1 for every week where he was the starter it's an uninspiring list moving forward Woody Marks
34:51he's playing Cincinnati this week you know he played 49 of the snaps in week one he played only one fewer snap
34:57than Dave Montgomery didn't really show up in the box score you know 10 touches nine for 42 and then you know
35:03he caught one ball for negative yards he's not a guy that's going to score often but I thought he looked pretty
35:09good uh would be my take on Woody Marks and I you know the Texans offense moved the ball better than I
35:15thought they would against the bills I agree I think that that's one that's a desperation flex but also somebody that's that
35:22next tier of backup so we just played it last year with Woody Marks everybody saw it as inefficient as they come
35:28but he was an RB2 because of the volume and as good as David Montgomery looked I thought I agree with you
35:34I thought Marks looked better than he probably did his entire rookie season but both of them Montgomery included is a volume
35:40play not even averaging four yards per carry you play the volume play with the Houston Texans running backs honestly at the
35:46end of Joe Mixon's career he was a volume play and that's why Woody Marks is intriguing because if something happens to
35:53Monty he's going to go right back to getting his 15 20 touches a week Jake you brought up Devon Vele earlier
35:59in the show let's talk about his teammate Kendra Miller here yeah I if we knew Camara was definitely out I would
36:05definitely be intrigued because I think the biggest shot one of the not the Chargers losing and blowing up survivors it was
36:11the etch and timeshare with no Camara nobody saw that coming Kendra Miller saw both goal to go rushing attempts here yes
36:17same number of rush attempts as Travis HN or at the end whatever you want to call it again but Camara is
36:23expected back sooner rather than later so don't get crazy on Kendra Miller but um it you know he's a young guy
36:30that uh that was you know that they liked coming out of the draft and you know there were some work ethic
36:36uh concerns I think that's you know that that was the rumor I don't know if that's true or not but either
36:42way um you know he it was impressive uh concerning from an HN uh ownership percentage but uh it was impressive for
36:48Kendra Miller how much work he got also you know just some other names George Chilani saw both of the Seahawks running
36:54back red zone touches in week one played 44 percent of the snaps I think Jadarian Price will play more as it
37:00moves on but it's just worth mentioning and how about Chris Brooks I don't think this is that crazy I mean again
37:07Marshall Lloyd has never been like a big bell cow kind of running back so Chris Brooks in a because we think
37:13the Packers offense is going to throw a lot more this year Chris Brooks is kind of interesting played 55 percent of
37:19the snaps which led the Packers backfield so uh I do think Chris Brooks his playing time I don't think that's as
37:25fluky as people might initially think because I don't think they want Lloyd to play as much and I do think they're
37:31going to throw more this year Brooks is the passing down back let's move on to quarterback waivers we've talked about a
37:38couple of Saints here uh Jake and so no surprise we're doing that at quarterback position Tyler Shuck shuck around and find
37:44out he's available in almost 60 percent of leagues he's my number one quarterback ad this week yeah I'm okay with it
37:50your number two would be my number one but you're kind of nitpicky here only because of how rough the beginning look
37:56for Shuck but I think we're on agreement especially if you're streaming this week is I think people are thinking of old
38:02Ravens and go back and watch week one and that was a little bit more of Daniel Jones than the Colts than
38:08anything is that I think the Ravens are more successful than people are going to give him credit for and that they
38:15can end up being shootouts like the Lions where that front is more fearsome than the back end so all that being
38:21said it is one week but Shuck he also we know he's going to chip in a little not to the level
38:27of Malik Willis but on the run department so if you need a quarterback I think Shucks definitely intriguing I would still
38:33take your number two fair enough but since week 14 of last season Tyler Shuck is the fifth best quarterback in fantasy
38:39football on a point for game basis he's had 20 or more fantasy points in four of his last six games it's
38:45not always pretty but your point right he gets points with his legs it's an aggressive play caller in Kellen Moore that
38:52plays at a high pace of play by the way they're eight and a half point underdogs on the road at Baltimore
38:58so should be another pass heavy game script for the Saints and Tyler Shuck my number two that you mentioned I'll let
39:04you talk about him is Malik Willis yeah and that's why specifically only this week he's headed to San Francisco so I'll
39:10go Shuck over Willis for this week but if I was purely picking up a quarterback I think we just saw like
39:16it's probably going to be as bad passing wise if not potentially worse for Willis but it's the rushing floor is that
39:22if you listed quarterbacks and you said hey I'm going to go down this list of who could lead the league in
39:29rushing you'd probably start the list with Lamar but right behind him is Malik Willis and it might even be Malik Willis
39:35at this version of Lamar so that's really what you get here and if he just continues to develop and with the
39:41biggest thing is give him some credit for doing what he did not only under pressure but with a rookie wide receiver
39:47versus one uh basically at a place wide receivers two and a rookie wide receiver trying to get involved in Chris Bell
39:53is his three so I give Willis a little bit more credit than people want to give him not saying you are
40:00um but I think the ceiling for Willis is higher which is why I would chase him long term but for this
40:06week that's why I was saying this week I actually agree with you and Shuck you look at you know he's not
40:12gonna get to play the Raiders every week but 16 in a game which he didn't look great he still wound up
40:18with over 16 fantasy points so I mean yeah right there's the floor with Willis is there I just uh I um
40:24I like Shuck a little bit more just as a pure quarterback and just I like the situation and while the rushing
40:30with Willis is you know eventually he's gonna get a Jordan Tyson back kind of like Juwan Johnson as a tight end
40:37you know what I mean a lobby is a superstar so I just I feel better about the situation with Tyler Shuck
40:43also we just mentioned Carson Wentz if Kyler Murray isn't getting cleared from the concussion protocol Carson Wentz plays the Bears I
40:49mean Chicago just allowed over 360 yards and three touchdowns to Bryce Young like again and they're gonna play at such a
40:55high pace the Bears offense there like anyone playing the Bears is gonna have to throw so if Kyler Murray isn't back
41:01this week Carson Wentz could make a one-week streamer in what should be a shootout against the Bears let's move on with
41:0712 minutes left here uh Jake let's move on to tight end waivers and uh I'm surprised by some of the names
41:14that are still available because again there's literally nothing sexy about Dalton Schultz except for the fact that he constantly earns targets
41:20he constantly earns targets right 22 target share in week number one that was second best on the team and what about
41:26TJ Hawkinson like we saw sort of forgot about him a little bit but I thought he looked pretty good two red
41:32zone targets 77 route participation maybe with Kyler Murray who of course targeted Trey McBride so often and we're not saying Hawkinson's
41:38McBride but like Kyler likes the tight end right and so is Wentz and so Hawkinson suddenly you know fantasy zombie whatever
41:45what's the you know undertaking gif I was about to say like I I can't agree with you more on these two
41:51so the longest time after Higgins went down I was like the answer is just what we did last year Dalton Schultz
41:57is the two chop stop trying to figure out Noel and if tank Dell can ever play again Schultz is the answer
42:03as the number two so I completely agree with you on that and then Hawkinson I wrote him up so I wrote
42:09him up preseason too because of what you said about Kyler if you look at Kyler's career he's primarily been wide receiver
42:15tight end and the second wide receiver has very rarely been involved to a relevant degree and some of that has to
42:22do with the talent he played with but even Carson Wentz was doing the same thing and I'm glad you brought up
42:28the 77 route percentage because if you look at his averages TJ Hawkinson hasn't hit that since his rookie season when it
42:34was just him and nobody else it's been low 70s into the 60s and that's including like the injuries factoring that out
42:40so to see him that involved again I'm with you like I I the Undertaker gif is the same thing I used
42:46you're 100% we're on the same page I can't agree with you more on these two uh I saw Brenton Strange on
42:52the list there as well look this Jaguars offense picked up right where it left off and I get it it was
42:59but you know the Browns are not the Browns of old no Miles Garrett but still Brenton Strange is going to be
43:05the starting tight end and playing a lot of uh playing a lot of snaps for one of the better offenses in
43:11the NFL so we always kind of like Brenton Strange we know Trevor Lawrence likes the middle of the field we saw
43:17it with Barker Washington Brenton Strange also uh had a nice game on Sunday how about prior Pat Friermuth I actually I
43:23don't think this is that fluky with Friermuth given though the way McCarthy likes to call games and how Rogers you know
43:30like he expanded his average depth of target but still Friermuth sort of expand you know um uh moving past that that
43:36triple tight end head that we had in Pittsburgh last year I actually don't think Friermuth is that fluky what's that yeah
43:42I'm with you I actually wish I would have held in a little bit more in the preseason because I initially before
43:48we had any games I was like oh Friermuth could be due for a bounce back because of McCarthy because that he
43:54likes to use just one tight end primarily because he runs a lot of three wide so I was with you and
44:00then we got reports and then we saw some action and people covering the team and I'm not we value them they're
44:07great what they do but there was a lot saying I still might see Darnell Washington eh Friermuth might not be on
44:13the field all the time and I pulled back a little bit and that's why I'm with you on that to come
44:19back because I think Friermuth isn't as fluky as people might think I was going to say I actually really like your
44:25call as your number three name on your list there Kenyon Sadiq that is a great he's on the heels of Mason
44:31Taylor already already in one game and we know the talent potential and then again no more no Omar Cooper he could
44:37be the number three option this team in a week or two yeah I mean like the fact that they gave him
44:44the goal line carry you know um you know super athletic and the concern on Sadiq was just how good is this
44:50offense going to be and is he healthy well obviously healthy you know obviously health I mean with the talent profiles off
44:56the charts and the offense looked competent now they're not always going to play Tennessee every week but still uh I mean
45:02you know Gino is as long as Gino's like the 20th best quarterback in the NFL the Jets will be fine the
45:08Jets that we care about Garrett Wilson Brees Hall obviously but I'm in on AD Mitchell and Kenyon Sadiq I think just
45:15because the talent and um the usage there as well so we mentioned I'm all over the place so you mentioned Sadiq
45:21there Friermuth again we've seen Friermuth be successful in the NFL I wish I wish every time I mentioned Gunnar Helm in
45:27the preseason I'd actually mentioned Pat Friermuth that would have been the better call here you know I want to mention Mike
45:33Gasicki just because we like the player somewhat he was actually tight in five and utilization score in week one but only
45:39played 46 percent of the routes but right looking at it it does feel like he's going to be the number three
45:45pass catcher for Joe Burrow and the Bengals and that's worth something that's the intriguing part it really comes down to I
45:52would try and it's always dangerous especially with tight ends but I would try to play matchups because you and everybody watching
45:58saw that game the Buccaneers went in with one game plan it's like try to stop Chase and Higgins and they did
46:04it so much so that there was two egregious pass interferences that got overlooked so they just went out there like we're
46:10just stopping them too you do whatever else you want I don't think that happens every single week mostly not because Gasicki
46:16can't be the three that's where I agree with you it's what you brought up as the concern is that he wasn't
46:22even out there for 50 percent of the route so hopefully we see a little bit of an uptick but that's where
46:29you try to play the matchups with Gasicki yeah you know by the way I um uh as I try to defend
46:35my flex league best ball title I have a uh in that league it's a 14 team league uh I have a
46:41Burrow Chase Gasicki stack like my last week in that draft was Gasicki and just like I was you know it's like
46:47it's super deep it's 14 teams and it's a best ball league so I don't know you tell me Jake it's something
46:53like 20 rounds 22 rounds or something like that I forget what exactly settings you you put in there but um it's
46:59uh that that helps you that helps you overcome week one to stay like you're only I mean you're like fifth only
47:06because not even with Burrow and Chase not doing Burrow and Chase things that's right I'm fifth you know after week one
47:12I'm very happy uh especially given the fact that Burrow and Chase uh underperformed but I'm so scared of you I went
47:18to the other best ball flex league and there I'm in first place in the other one nice good job smart smart
47:24good avoid me um and then the last tight end on my list here Jake is Michael Mayer now listen caveats because
47:30there's a chance that Bowers comes back but in a world where um in a world where Bowers has to miss another
47:37week we do like Michael Mayer here again at the at end of this list there's a lot of sort of tight
47:43ends that we prefer ahead of him but you know he could be usable for another week if Bowers is to miss
47:49time absolutely no question about it he's essentially the number two because the number one's Ashton Gentty it's unbelievable uh hey if
47:55you play in a league that still uses defenses and kickers I'm not going to give you kicker waivers but I will
48:01give you some streamable defenses we like the 49ers this week they're at the Miami Dolphins right you see it there how
48:07about the Buccaneers home to Deshaun Watson and the Browns and then the Packers get to go to the Jets tougher matchup
48:14for New York this week uh so uh Geno Smith gets to face uh the Green Bay defense it's at home it
48:20is the home opener but uh we think the Packers should be able to get after it so um those the defensive
48:26ads uh as well Jake so what do you um what do you have going on at the athletic way too much
48:32uh the waivers ranks all those articles the podcast all in speed run this I try to keep it 20 minutes or
48:38less all the time just because there's enough great shows like yours that are out there like this is let's get my
48:44niche that like get in and out so you can do it on the car ride but other than that is watching
48:51uh the flex leagues just watching the chaos involved in that I love that hey if anyone in the chat has a
48:57waiver question we got about five minutes left um yeah you've got uh you've got access to the all-in kid himself Jake
49:03Seeley does that count are you like a poker big are you a big like poker player is that where that comes
49:09from 100 which is why I haven't gotten rid of it even though you know I'm definitely a man at this point
49:15it came from when I first started playing Texas Hold'em the very first time I played a tournament and you know when
49:22you don't know you're like oh we'll just go all in is the better move whether you have hands or not you
49:28just so we were playing a giant tournament and this is a group of friends that had nicknames for everybody there was
49:34one guy who's named Don Ho-Ho's who actually gave me the name and we're sitting there and after about the 16th time
49:40I did it the dude just sits back you go damn all in kid and then it stuck ever ever since then
49:46there you go so how much so uh let's see uh k8s kates kate's asks line up uh kate's lineup oh there
49:52you go how much fab on veille so what percentage of fab would you spend on Devon veille that's a good one
49:59for me I think I'd say 15 percent I think that's too much uh my range I was gonna say 8 to 12.
50:05so you're slightly higher I think if 15 is if you're needy if you need somebody to start right now maybe you
50:11already have an injury is a flowers if he's out um but I we do know you brought it up earlier like
50:17the tyson the ticking clock is coming at some point we don't know when you might get seven weeks you might only
50:24get five um you might get the full season so I want to be semi-aggressive but I don't want to go too
50:30crazy yeah no I agree with that I agree with semi-aggressive but not too crazy so 10 to you know 10 to
50:3612 is probably 8 to 12 is probably right um uh as uh let's see uh Tyler Tyler Knowles says prioritize Kaylin
50:42Black or Emmett Johnson I think it's Kaylin Black 100 percent 100 percent but I do think Emmett Johnson as you said
50:48made it clear that he's the next one up but I think he would share more with uh with anybody like um
50:54Brashard Smith then we would see the share workload for Kaylin Black well also by the way there's a chance that Kaylin
51:01Black has um non-injury you know like that he could be usable even in a world where CMC isn't injured like just
51:07again they try to lower the maybe they do you know we saw CMC lineup as a as a receiver a lot
51:13of times you could see scenarios where both of them are in the backfield together you could see them you know that
51:19Kaylin Black carves out a Blake Corum-ish 10 touch roll in this offense every week even with CMC healthy Emmett Johnson I
51:25just can't imagine a scenario where he becomes fantasy viable as long as Ken Walker's healthy so to me they waited and
51:32waited and waited to give Emmett Johnson touches like basically like it was still like it's already out of hand and they're
51:38like yeah we're still gonna keep going Kenneth Walker for a little bit longer so uh Greg Lau 100 says how much
51:44fab on Carson Wentz if I own Kyler Murray and he's still in concussion protocol I mean like I would have to
51:50say if um I mean like for me like a dollar like it depends on how deep I mean if it's a
51:56two quarterback league and there's just no viable guys on the uh on the waiver wire but I just he's still Carson
52:02Wentz like we like him we like him this week at the Bears um but I don't know that I would I
52:09wouldn't want to spend a lot of money on Carson Wentz because I just feel like you should be able to get
52:15a usable court quarterback you should like you said unless it's super flex or two QB and there's nothing else out there
52:21they yeah one buck I mean Carson Wentz going belly up against the Bears defense wouldn't shock us either it shouldn't happen
52:27but I mean it's not a quarterback that you're gonna lock in and be like there's no chance that happens this is
52:33a good one this will be our last one because we're a minute 40 left Jake but Dos Gurley's One Cup says
52:39what types of players should I offer for AJ Brown uh what where would you rank AJ Brown rest the season right
52:46now if you did a draft today AJ Brown we assume he's gonna miss at least a month like where where is
52:52AJ Brown and then what kind of players would you offer for him yeah oh I think it sounds more like it's
52:58like six weeks now too so I guess I'd say fringe wide receiver too just because you got to take what's in
53:04front of you and right now uh you know if we're talking Ted Irwin-Camillen I would take him even though he looked
53:10kind of slow in that game and I think Coker is gonna push him Terry McLaurin or AJ Brown playing a mini
53:16main game name game here I'd take AJ Brown but that would be only if Terry is my like three or four
53:23and I went wide receiver deep and I can afford it like the Terry stuff if Terry is you're locked in two
53:29or three and your next wide receiver is eh I'm holding Terry right uh AJ Brown or like Quinton Johnston who didn't
53:35do much but we expect a brown but yeah I agree so I think he's I think you're right I think he's
53:41I think AJ Brown's probably in the two wide receiver high-end wide receiver three low-end wide receiver two but that's kind of
53:47the range of what I would offer him there as well Jake we will all follow you on x at all in
53:54kid and we will check out all of your work at The Athletic you do great work my friend I appreciate you
54:00and I look forward to you sending me another flex trophy at the end of the year uh tomorrow I am out
54:06actually tomorrow Pete Overzet and Matthew Friedman take over I've got to go shake some hands and kiss some babies at an
54:12upfront tomorrow so for Jake I'm Matthew we'll see you tomorrow peace out you