0:00Welcome to The Athletic Football Show brought to you by the US Bank Smartly Visa Signature Card.
0:05I'm Robert Mayes. Game one is in the books.
0:07The Seahawks somehow pulled this one out despite losing Sam Darnold on the first drive.
0:11Some inexplicable decisions by Drake May in the fourth quarter.
0:14We dug into all of it with me, Derek and Dave.
0:17Let's get to that conversation right now. Football is back, baby, and did not disappoint.
0:21Seems like we might get a little bit of a stinker early on with Drew Locke coming in, Sam Dern on going
0:26out on the first drive, and then we get a pretty exciting game with some very questionable choices and some curious moments there in the fourth quarter.
0:34It was a rock fight for a lot of it, but at least it came down to at the end.
0:39It was like JSN makes a crazy play. It still comes down to the final drive really for both teams having like
0:45really impressive or really important drives there at the end.
0:48It started off slow. The Sam Darnold injury was weird, but it became a game that reminded me why this sport is awesome.
0:54I don't want to be the ungrateful person like we waited nine months and then and there was a lot to like
1:00about this game, but that was so stupid. Like everything we just saw was so stupid from the Darnold injury to whatever
1:05the hell Drake May was doing in the second half of that game.
1:09Like just just a bizarre way to get back into it like a very sick start to the 2026 season.
1:14I mean, I can't believe that just happened. It's I was right.
1:17I was I was ready to just walk off into overtime.
1:20I was like, all right. Well, you know, yeah, they'll get the field goal.
1:24We'll go to overtime. Let's see. And then I looked up and as the play was finishing, I cannot believe he just
1:30did that everything like OK, the pick is is one thing and we can talk about it.
1:34And it was really dumb. And Drake May just worst, worst game of his career.
1:38That is the worst game of his career. At least pretty poorly in the Super Bowl, too.
1:43Well, yeah, yeah. The Super Bowl, they felt somehow more outgunned.
1:46That is a very good point. I think they were completely outmanned in the Super Bowl.
1:50The pass protection plan is completely fell apart. And they were just yeah, there was worse.
1:55They had scattered issues against pressure looks today, but they weren't completely overwhelmed up front the entire game like they were in this.
2:01Yeah. My memory of watching the Super Bowl was like, well, this is ugly.
2:04But what do I expect Drake May to do in this game?
2:08I was like the Drake May could have done more than he did in this game.
2:12Yes. But what I also wanted to mention is and I know A.J.
2:15Brown got hurt. But Matt Collins is your go to guy all the way down the field to try to get a win against the defending champions.
2:23It's so bleak that that's where the Patriots were at the end of this game, even if there was a good reason for it in the A.J.
2:30Brown injury. After the A.J. Brown injury, we get to an unfortunate place where the offense felt very similar to what we
2:36were dealing with last year, where they couldn't run the ball consistently throughout this entire game until that last drive.
2:41They were getting punked on the ground the entire game.
2:44They might have had more successful runs on that drive than they did for the entire rest of the game before that.
2:49They ended at 24 percent rushing success rate per next gen.
2:52I'm looking at the stats right now with 723 left in the third quarter.
2:56They had two successful runs on 12 running back carries.
2:59It was 12 carries for 22 yards. And then you're throwing the ball to Matt Collins because weirdly, Romeo Dobbs was not
3:05involved in a lot of the game before A.J.
3:07Brown got hurt, which dropping one of what would have been probably three explosive plays might do that to you.
3:12That was a swing play for New England. If he catches that ball, they'd probably win this game.
3:17Because May throws the pick right after that. The next play.
3:20It was the next play on that third and 14.
3:23He throws the pick. But the interception, I mean, let's just, yes, that play doesn't happen if Romeo Dobbs catches the ball.
3:29When you look back at a box score and you see a game where the quarterback threw three interceptions, a lot of
3:35it is, ah, there were two bad plays. There was one tipped ball, whatever.
3:38All three of these, there was a tipped interception.
3:41But the decision that led to the tipped interception was completely indefensible.
3:44Like, all three of these are balls just should not be thrown.
3:47And I think they got, like, progressively worse. The first one is they're trying to.
3:51The last one is clearly the worst one. The last one is the worst one.
3:55And the first one, they're trying to throw this, like, play-action shot play down the left-hand side.
4:00And they're playing cover two to that side. They hadn't thrown a shot all game.
4:04Sometimes you call it, you just throw it. It's never open.
4:07He throws it up for Romeo Dobbs. It's intercepted.
4:09It's a bad play. The checkdowns are, like, wide open on that play, too.
4:13I think he probably was tired of checking down in this game.
4:16I think that is exactly what happened. Yeah. They were tired of it.
4:19When you watch it happen in the first half, when he was just picking on things underneath, they did a really good
4:25job against the Blitz on those third and shorts and mediums throughout the entire first half.
4:30They had quick answers. Even on plays, there was one specific third down where Spoon was untouched.
4:34They got rid of the ball so quickly that it didn't matter.
4:37The checkdown to Stevenson up the left sideline in the second half.
4:41When they were taking what was there underneath, they were consistently finding positive plays.
4:44Every single time, he tried to bite off a little bit more in the second half.
4:49We had three straight drives and with interceptions for the exact reason that you're talking about.
4:53When you get bored, this team wants you to get bored.
4:56Yes, that's the whole point. That's exactly what they're trying to do.
4:59They want to put you in a spot where we're going to stop the run and we're going to put you in disadvantageous down-and-distance situations.
5:06We're going to make you consistently make completions underneath.
5:08And as soon as you get bored doing that, the pass rush is either going to get home or we're going to force you into a bad decision.
5:15They forced him into three of them. I would also like to say, and Drake May deserves the criticism that's coming his
5:21way if this is how you're going to start your season after last year.
5:25But our line on the Seahawks heading into the year was secondaries a little thinner than you would prefer.
5:30Nicky Manwari didn't play in this game. Granted, it's one week.
5:33But my lasting memory of Nehemiah Pritchett from last year was not being ready for prime time against the Buccaneers.
5:38Well, he had a phenomenal game and came away with that weird bobbled pick and was just generally very good.
5:44Did the PBU on the play where Brown got hurt?
5:46Very good contesting plays. Yeah, I mean, it sucks that Brown got hurt, but that was a sick play by Pritchett.
5:52And then Rodney Thomas, who got called up from the practice squad because Imanwari couldn't go, had a fantastic night from Seattle's
5:58quote unquote no name DBs in this game. And that doesn't mean this isn't something we have to keep our eye on,
6:04but very encouraging if you're Mike McDonald watching those guys in this spot.
6:07And then the front, I don't think the four man pass, the pressure numbers are going to look okay.
6:12I think that's a combination of some of the actual blitz and pressure looks and May holding out of the ball a little bit.
6:19He had answers as a scrambler at times when the pocket started collapsing.
6:22But other than the Byron Murphy play where Leo Leonard Williams picks up the sack in the second half, there were not
6:28a lot of very quick four man pressures in this game.
6:31But you felt that front against the run. You felt that front against the run the entire game.
6:36I mean, Eli Rairden having to, the little split zone where he's having to kick out Yushinuosu on I think the second drive of the game.
6:43And that front, when you're having to try to run the ball against them, even if they didn't take over as pass
6:49rushers today, they made their presence known throughout the entire game.
6:52And then they piece it together in the back end well enough.
6:55Nosu might have been the player of this game for them.
6:58Like he was phenomenal. He has that, that play against Rairden where he, I mean, it was like, yeah, second or third play of the game.
7:05That was a welcome to the NFL buddy. And then early on in the third quarter, Nosu had an insane two play
7:11run where they tried to run outside run his way.
7:13He explodes Hunter Henry and the play is just like dead in the backfield.
7:17And then the very next play after that, they run this like, it's kind of a gun toss.
7:22It's kind of like they're throwing it. It ends up being ruled incomplete.
7:25But Nosu has a hand on the running back, like as the ball is arriving, like he almost gets a hand on it and like puts it down.
7:33And like just what he was doing for them, especially in run defense in this game was it's phenomenal.
7:38He's like the unsung hero. I think of that front.
7:40It was really fun to see them kick into high gear in the second half of this game.
7:45Not that they were bad in the first half.
7:48I mean, the score was seven to nothing, but they just, they were humming the way we remember from last year from like the mid third quarter on.
7:55And then even, you know, the, the Patriots managed to string together, which ironically, I love the way the Pats played that drive.
8:01Like it was so methodical. They were so liberal with the clock.
8:04Like they got the ball with five and a half minutes to play.
8:08And we're going to have that drive be the end of the game one way or the other, either overtime or we win.
8:14And then, you know, Drake may kind of derailed it with that decision making there.
8:18But I guess to your point, Derek, I mean, he gets paid a lot of money to do this.
8:23But watching DeMarcus Lawrence hurdle an offensive tackle, maybe that short circuited his brain.
8:27I don't know. Morgan Moses, yeah, tries to cut block DeMarcus Lawrence coming off the right edge.
8:31And Lawrence just like hops right over him and just gets a hand and make May's face.
8:36And Lawrence is massive. So throw the ball out of bounds.
8:39Well, there's one thing you cannot do. That's the thing.
8:42I don't mind him trying to throw to the end zone and giving Matt Collins a chance.
8:46Matt Collins is like 6'4". If you're going to miss, you have to miss out of bounds.
8:51You cannot miss a yard inside of bounds where a guy like, who was that, Job, I think, ended up making that play.
8:57Which you can't give the DB a chance there.
8:59If you want to throw it, fine, but leave it three feet over his head.
9:03I meant to shout out Job when I shouted out the younger guys.
9:07I mean, he gave up the DPI on the underthrown flea flicker.
9:10But to come back and he's got to be the guy this year.
9:13He got the money and Tariq Wollin didn't. And that's a hell of a way to start your season as the guy
9:19that needs to step up in the secondary. Those corners were tackling, too.
9:23Oh, absolutely. Job had one on. They threw a check down to Stevenson in the right and he just blew him up.
9:29And then there was one. They have to play that way, right?
9:32Yeah. Because there are so many pressures where they're trying to make you get rid of the ball quickly in this game.
9:38And if you're going to play like that, your guys in the second and third level have to tackle.
9:43And this team does exactly that. It's just so awesome seeing literally guys who were not supposed to be week one starters
9:49for them, especially like Pritchett had one on the final drive where it was third and two and they throw a flat route to Mario Douglas.
9:55He just stops him in his tracks and they force a third and one.
9:59And obviously, you know, they still end up converting.
10:02But just incredible how well this team tackles on the back end.
10:05You mentioned the flea flicker. It's an important play to point out just because that was the only play down the field
10:11that the Patriots had the entire game. They may finish 0-4 with three interceptions on passes of 20 plus yards per next gen.
10:17They had nothing down the field this entire game.
10:19That was the one play where they had a positive outcome while trying to push the ball and it was on a trick play.
10:26Yeah. I mean, he had a couple darts that were probably like 16 to 18 yards.
10:30The decent in the intermediate area, yes. But yeah, like anything beyond that, nothing doing whatsoever.
10:34Those were all three interceptions came on deep throws.
10:37And again, just two of them were into cover six looks.
10:40The one you said that that was the corner sinking underneath it when he tried to throw like the de facto hole shot to Dobbs.
10:46And then the one to Julian Love is just there's nothing going there.
10:50I mean, that seam ball, Spoon does a great job of carrying it.
10:53And then as soon as it gets into the middle of the field, Julian Love is able to clamp down on that thing.
10:59And it's just a decision that can't happen. And it's frustrating because May is at his best last year.
11:04It was so methodical and his ability to just create positive plays over and over and over again.
11:09We've seen him do that for long stretches. And then you get to a game like this and you just watch him
11:15press way more than he needs to in some of these moments.
11:18This was a game where the Seahawks tried to beat themselves pretty often for two thirds of this game.
11:23When you think back to some of those moments, the false start or the lining up offsides on the sneak on what
11:29should have been a huge third, like third, third into fourth down conversion.
11:33You have multiple other penalties that the drive that probably should have put it away when they kick the field goal to go up 13 to 10.
11:40They have a delay of the delay of game there.
11:43Like this is a brutal game to lose when the other team loses its starting quarterback on drive number one.
11:48And then throughout the game has four or five notable mistakes that should put you in the driver's seat.
11:53And then you consistently fumble this thing away. I'm not going to say gift wrapped because you still have to go against that defense.
11:59But this is a unique opportunity where no matter how good the Patriots might be, you're like defending champions almost never lose these games anyway.
12:06And this is a loaded team playing in that building.
12:09Even if the Patriots are great, I don't like their odds of winning this game.
12:13And then you lose Sam Darnold on the first possession of this game.
12:16It is absolutely brutal to lose that opportunity knowing that the schedule on paper at least looks a hell of a lot harder this year.
12:23All right. Let's take a quick break here and then come back and chat a little bit about the Seahawks offense in this game.
12:29Obviously, the Seahawks defense deserves a ton of credit for keeping them in this game and really making sure that they were around at the end.
12:36Not only with the way they played down to down, but obviously taking the ball away three times.
12:41But enough moments from Drew Locke and the Seahawks offense in this game to get things over the finish line.
12:46I was worried early on. I was worried early on.
12:49The couple third downs we saw. And Seattle or New England mostly played a ton of zone on early downs and then
12:55was playing man on third down early in the game.
12:58And the first couple third downs, I think the second and third drive, we have, well, there were multiple kind of flubs
13:03on third down for this first Seattle in the first half.
13:06That second drive that they had, they had a second and two where Price bounces it and probably easily could have gotten
13:12the first down if he had just hit the hole.
13:15He bounces it outside, gets stuffed on third and two.
13:18Christian Ellis makes a great play screaming downhill. They force a punt there.
13:21Third and five on the next Seattle drive. Locke is nearly picked by Gonzo in man coverage.
13:26And then on the first drive, I'm pretty sure that was when Darnold was still in.
13:30Gonzo, they had a bunch on the right side with JSN and Gonzalez had fantastic coverage on him there.
13:35So you had three third down failures for Seattle in their first three drives.
13:39Then you get the Barner sneak with the offside.
13:41And then in the second half, I mean, the biggest play of the entire game is obviously the fourth and one to JSN.
13:47Like that is the biggest play of the entire game where that's a good call to get a conversion that a great
13:53player turns into a play that breaks the game.
13:55It was such a cool call because it's, they really just end up running spot where JSN's running the little snag.
14:01But they run it with like a, like a boot action into it, which you don't see a lot.
14:06But the whole defense is fast flowing. They're seeing boot.
14:09They're seeing the fullbacker running back into the flat.
14:11They're seeing a guy running a deep corner and everyone just kind of clears out this little space for, yeah, that should
14:17be a conversion and a, I don't know, 12 yard completion.
14:20But Craig Woodson is the safety who's trying to come down from depth and make that tackle.
14:25Making a tackle on depth from JSN is really hard.
14:27He's really quick. And so he misses that tackle.
14:30And then AJ Barner just goes up and finds Kevin Byard, who I thought could have made a play and made a
14:35little bit of a squeeze on that tackle attempt.
14:38And he kind of lets Barner get in his face.
14:41And then JSN's just, it's the gas. I watched a lot of Kevin Byard last year.
14:45I watched a lot of Kevin Byard trying to make plays in space last year.
14:49The interceptions are cool. A lot of the other stuff can be frustrating.
14:52That's all I'll say. As somebody who watched a lot of Kevin Byard football last season, the idea that they were upgrading
14:58its safety by moving on from Jalen Hawkins and getting Kevin Byard, I never really understood that.
15:03And we're one game in, but just that's, that play right there, I think is a very good encapsulation of the 2026
15:09Kevin Byard experience, who is now how old? Oh man.
15:11I mean, if you're having to Google it, it's a problem.
15:1433. I was going to say. He just turned 33.
15:1716, 17. So just, just throwing it out there.
15:19I thought, and this might've been the plan for Sam Darnold as well as Drew Locke, but with Drew Locke in there,
15:25the amount of boot stuff or the threat of play action, like it seemed like it did a lot to mitigate what the Patriots were able to do.
15:33And like attacking the flat, like on the JSN play, you can see them crashing on the route to the flat because
15:38the Seahawks did that so many times in this game.
15:41I thought they did a really great job of keeping the Patriots off balance enough to give Drew Locke easy throws.
15:47Doesn't mean it always worked, but although I will say like in this, he found a really nice rhythm there, which ironically
15:53was disrupted by the penalty that screwed up. That was the best drive of the game that they had.
15:58Yeah. In terms of like stacking completion, they actually kicked the field goal when he, when he got the snap off correctly, he was fine.
16:04They just had like three different procedural. That was definitely a week, a game one from a new play caller performance today.
16:10With the backup quarterback. Some of the procedural stuff that was happening with a backup quarterback, but that drive specifically that you're
16:16talking about, they have Barner kind of blocking down, sneaking into the flat for an easy completion.
16:21They did the same thing with JSN on the next play.
16:24The play after that, the completion that they had a little quick motion to the flat with the back.
16:29It essentially turns into slap flat with Cooper cups sitting down in that hole.
16:32That's an easy completion. And so just making sure, all right, how can I consistently find those easy options for my backup quarterback?
16:39I think they really did a good job of tapping into that during that drive in the second half and they should
16:44have just put it away right there. And then again, this was a game where just too many self-inflicted moments from Seattle
16:50that ended up not mattering, but it was a frustrating game overall.
16:53You could see like the seam coming out of Mike McDonald's ears at a certain point with all of these things that
16:59were just stacking up over the course of the game.
17:02Drew, Drew Locke didn't play poorly, all things considered, but his, if you're just box score watching his stat line is fantastic.
17:08Oh, it's fantastic. But it helps when JSN takes a five yard completion.
17:11And then the other big completion that I'm going to give more credit to the receiver on that play than the quarterback, the Cooper cup.
17:18Yeah. That was nasty. That slot fade to Cooper cup.
17:21I think it was a slot fade, but that like, I can really like a deep corner.
17:25It was deep corner. Yeah. But just a deep corner out of a bunch, but that's a play where that's really good coverage by Marcus Jones.
17:32And it just doesn't matter. Cooper cup makes an incredible play on that ball.
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17:59This is purely just rooted in the fact that I picked Jadarian price for offensive rookie of the year a couple of
18:04days ago, but, and I know the Seahawks are going to, they're going to do their committee thing and that's fine, but I don't know.
18:11Tick, tick that share up for Jadarian price. Even he's going to make some mistakes.
18:15He's a rookie. I get it. But like, he's got the juice that, and we knew that he was drafted in the
18:21first round for a reason, but just seeing it on an NFL field in a real game.
18:26Play. Yes. So the first play had an explosive on his first NFL carry.
18:29And even like you mentioned the one where he took it outside when he probably shouldn't have, but good stuff happened when
18:35they gave him the ball the vast majority of the time.
18:38Yeah. I would like to see a little bit more, especially if we're going to have to spend any extended time without Sam Darnold.
18:44I would like to see a little bit more Jadarian price.
18:47I want he had eight carries in this game.
18:50Well, one successful run on eight carries Jadarian price had five on his 10.
18:54Yeah. So, and you, you just feel it. You just feel the difference in the explosiveness when he is in the game right now.
19:00And so I would like to see them lean on him a little bit more.
19:04I guess we have to talk about what the outlook would be for Seattle without Sam Darnold.
19:09I mean, this there's a chance that it sounds like a hip injury.
19:12He was limping very noticeably when he was walking off.
19:15And the fact that he was already getting x-rays on it.
19:18And I think he was taken somewhere for more testing that genuinely concerns me.
19:21Like there is a chance that he has a serious hip injury and is going to miss a ton of time.
19:27Yeah. And even if you're excited about what Seattle's defense can be, and they do a good job of pulling out a
19:33game like this, the outlook drastically changes. If drew lock has to play for any extended period of time, it just does.
19:39It absolutely does. Like you hope it's just a short-term thing.
19:42Cause in the short term, they get Arizona and Washington.
19:44They can survive those games with just about anybody, a quarterback.
19:47I think after that, it gets really hard. You get the chargers, you get the niners, you get the Broncos, you get the chiefs, you get the bears.
19:55Like it does get difficult after that, where some of those, you might have to win some games where you're going to
20:01have to score more than, I mean, they needed what 13 today.
20:04You're going to need more than that against a majority of those teams.
20:07And so I do think that there's a chance that you get drew locks and practice reps.
20:12You still have a guy like JSN. If your daring price gets a little bit more comfortable, can pop a couple of explosives.
20:18I think they can live through it. But you just hope that it's not a multi-month issue here for Sam Darnold.
20:24And he broke a sip. He's out for the year.
20:26Oh, wait, he broke it. If he did. Oh yeah.
20:29I was like, Whoa, if we already got there yet, but no, if he did, he's yeah, he's done.
20:34You can't do it. You can't play quarterback without a hip.
20:37That's where all your power comes from. I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to forecast too much.
20:42Although, Oh, Tom Pellicero. We're just, we're just live right now.
20:45Uh, McDonald's said that they got good news on Sam Darnold.
20:48So I can't, I don't know. I, it's hard for me to imagine that means he'll be ready for week two, but
20:54I mean, you're breathing a sigh of relief if it's like a month or less.
20:58Totally. In fact, I mean, he said ruled out a fracture with that.
21:01Okay. So the fact that we've ruled out that literally just happened.
21:05That's coming across the timeline as we're sitting here right now.
21:08Pellicero, Garofalo, Brian Nemhouse are all tweeting. I mean, he's doing live from the press conference.
21:12And so that's fantastic. That would be, that's huge.
21:14And then if it's a couple of weeks and you just said, they play Arizona and Washington, you can survive that stretch.
21:20I was going to say though, without trying to forecast Sam Darnold, like in the first half of that game, it's easy
21:26to sit there and say like, okay, what trades can you do?
21:29Who's available? Like what, what might the Seahawks need to do?
21:32But by the time you get to the end of the game, you, you give Drew Locke the starter reps in practice.
21:38And this defense is going to drag almost everyone they play into the deep water.
21:42And like, that's just how it's going to have to be.
21:45Like I, obviously the ceiling is lower without Sam Darnold, but I think the way they're built, they're going to try to
21:51be a 10 or 11 win team with Drew Locke.
21:53Like, I don't see a, a more realistic path forward than that.
21:57I think that's right. I'm not sure that there is like a better option out there than what Drew Locke can give you, especially for a short stint.
22:04And the idea that it's not broken and that he might be back sooner rather than later.
22:09We don't have to have that conversation. I think that's, can we get by for a couple of weeks?
22:14And then the answer is absolutely yes. Based on everything else that you have.
22:17Do we want to, is there any need to have like a broader Patriots offense conversation after a game like this?
22:23Or are we just off of a, it's one game stacked onto four games against really good defenses.
22:28Those are the last five glimpses we've gotten of the Patriots.
22:31It's really disappointing that Drake may played this way, but.
22:33And like, I don't want to sound like I'm letting Drake may off the hook because I'm like, I'm deeply disappointed by
22:39some of the decisions that he made and he clearly played a really poor game, but.
22:44I expected this to be a slog. Like you're going into Seattle to play this defense.
22:48Even reek. Well, and not there, I get it, but this is still a fantastic unit.
22:52We were concerned going in about the Patriots offensive line.
22:55Even Derek and I who were bullish on the Pats.
22:58I knew they were losing this game. And like, granted, I thought Sam Darnold would play all 60 minutes, but.
23:03Um, I'm not gonna drastically change my opinion just yet, unless which now it would be really great to get some good news on AJ Brown.
23:10Hopefully he's not out for a prolonged period of time.
23:12If he missed, if he misses a significant amount of time, I'm pretty worried.
23:16Cause the schedule is tough. Like it, I think it's Pittsburgh next and Jacksonville after that, like the Patriots schedule doesn't let up.
23:22And so if, if, if we're throwing a Mac Collins in crunch time for the foreseeable future, I can't say I like that very much.
23:29Yeah. Then you're very close to again, what they were at the end of last season, the offensive line theoretically is better.
23:35And I think the run game will probably look better than it did tonight, but it wasn't good tonight.
23:40Right. I mean, if you had any concerns about the Patriots, this was like worst case scenario in every way.
23:45And I think I'm with Dave with may specifically.
23:48I mean, I do think he's very good. This is probably the worst game he's ever played, but I expect him individually
23:54to be better and smarter than he was, especially in some of these critical moments.
23:58But some of the other worst stuff, like. Josh McDaniels, I thought clearly outgunned in this game and Mike McDonald is going
24:03to do that to a lot of people, but it just did not learn look like they had learned a lot of lessons.
24:10I mean, even though a lot of those backup and, and, you know, guys like Job, who is a starter, but not necessarily a star cornerback.
24:17That to me feels like if you have AJ Brown and I know he went out, you know, relatively early in this
24:22game and you sign Romeo Dobbs, let's like drop back a little bit more and like try to target those guys.
24:28And they just did not really do that. It seemed like they were, that's probably them being scared of their offensive line, but that's the other issue.
24:35They made some investments in shuffles on the offensive line and they still kind of got punked in this game, not as
24:41much one-on-one, but still just not being able to pick stuff up.
24:44So. So I think I'm weirdly encouraged by the offensive line in this game compared to what it looked like last time.
24:50I kind of agree with Dave. I don't know.
24:53I'm not saying it's good, but it's, I think the plan leaves something to be desired.
24:57But when they brought four, it was not a situation where he was under siege in this game.
25:02I will say Campbell looked like what you wanted him to look like.
25:05Other than penalties. Right. Other than some of the penalties, but I thought he looked more like the player he did for
25:11a lot of his rookie season where it was like, sure.
25:14Some of the elite guys are going to nuke him a little bit, but he was a good pass protector for a lot of it.
25:21I was still concerned with how bad the run game looked and them still getting the run game is a different conversation.
25:26I think to me, it's more about holding up and pass protection when they only brought four.
25:31And I think they did a fine job doing that today, but I've talked about this like it.
25:36And I, the only thing I would say as somebody, I think the one of the three of us, who's been the
25:42most bearish on the Patriots offense and the Patriots offensive line, I'm not going to have any strong reactions until I see them play a front.
25:49That doesn't involve these dudes where you'd shut into.
25:51Oh, Sue is the backup edge that you're having to deal with.
25:54Like it's just a different sort of beast. Unfortunately, any line they're going to play.
25:58I mean, it is the, and the Seahawks are on a different level, but it's Pittsburgh and Jacksonville.
26:03Like it doesn't necessarily get easier. Yeah. And that is the exact perspective, right?
26:07Like run defending edges. That's those are some big guys.
26:09Yeah. The Jacksonville specifically. Yes. It's, it's too early for me to panic unless AJ Brown is going to be out for
26:15a lot of time, which I really hope is not the case.
26:19Just a brutal game to lose if you're the Patriots, just an absolutely brutal game to lose beyond the Darnold stuff.
26:24Just how many times Seattle tried to let that game out of their grasp in the first half.
26:29And the fact that you couldn't take advantage of it and credit to the Seahawks.
26:33I mean, again, this is a team that just never goes away.
26:36Never goes away. It doesn't matter what type of game it is.
26:39It doesn't matter how the first three quarters went.
26:42They just never go away. I'm glad you said first three quarters because, and if this sounds like cope, I'm sorry.
26:47I'll say it one more time. Drake may played like shit full stop, but heading into the fourth quarter, he was doing
26:53just enough to get an ugly win against a great defense.
26:56I thought he was actually playing fine. And like, I mean, he finished by then he only had one interception.
27:01He hadn't, he didn't throw his first pick until the fourth quarter.
27:05Were they all in the fourth? They were the final three drives.
27:08They were all in the fourth quarter. Wow. He was doing enough in the passing game.
27:12He had 50 rushing yards. I think he had the Patriots.
27:15Remondre had one late in the game, but he had one of like two explosive runs.
27:19I thought he was handling a lot of those situations very well.
27:23Like all of those third downs, what he was doing against the blitz, what he was doing with his legs.
27:28It's indefensible what happened in the fourth quarter, but I don't think he played poorly for most of the game.
27:33The Patriots go up 10, nothing with seven minutes to play in the third.
27:37And it was like, Drake may is going to do just enough to eke out the ugliest win ever.
27:42And everybody's going to hate it because Sam Darnold wasn't there.
27:45And, and, you know, Drake, the schedule may rides again.
27:48And then the Seahawks, man, they, like I said, they just kicked into a different gear.
27:52Like immediately when that happened, not only did the offense get its first scoring drive of the night, but the defense just started looking like the Superbowl team.
27:59It was, it was really, like I said, it was really cool to see them.
28:03You could just kind of feel them like tighten their chin straps as, as we inch toward the fourth quarter.
28:09We also did not mention the fact that the Seahawks had a roughing the punter penalty in the second half of this game.
28:15Sure. Just throw that on the pile. I mean, there were just so many moments that the Patriots could have taken advantage of and did not.
28:22Mike McDonald is going to be furious when he, like when he's done breathing a sigh of relief that Darnold's injury might.
28:28In fact, they won the game. Yeah. Yes. There's enough good, I think for him to get through the night, but going
28:34back and watching this one, I think there are elements of that are going to be frustrating, but you'll take this one
28:39every single time considering how things started for Seattle, especially with the quarterback stuff.
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