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The FF Dynasty - 5 OVERVALUED Dynasty Assets To SELL NOW!

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1 hr 1 min
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Jul 14, 2026
Published
Tue, July 14, 2026
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Players mentioned
Topics
Colston LovelandJavonte WilliamsKyler MurrayDavid MontgomeryJordan LoveC.J. StroudChristian WatsonJames ConnerTravis EtienneTucker KraftA.J. BrownBrian Thomas Jr.Brock BowersCam Ward
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A.J. Brown

NegativeProjection0:48

The hosts are lower on AJ Brown compared to consensus, primarily due to age considerations in dynasty rankings, though they remain generally bullish on him as a player.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

NegativeProjection0:49

Shev has significantly downgraded Brian Thomas Jr., ranking him 107th compared to Casey and Jeremiah at 64 and 70, because he went to see a slot receiver and can no longer get excited about Thomas.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveValue0:09

Similar to Colston Loveland, if Brock Bowers doesn't hit his ceiling as a top-three tight end, the investment sinks you for the year despite no fault of his own.

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C.J. Stroud

PositiveProjection0:46

Casey prefers CJ Stroud over Jordan Love because he believes there's a bigger bounce-back potential for Stroud, whereas Love may not return to steady QB1 status.

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PositiveProjection0:48

The hosts are 17 points higher than consensus on CJ Stroud, viewing him with more excitement and optimism about a potential bounce-back compared to Jordan Love, despite similar recent performance.

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Cam Ward

PositiveValue0:15

Preferred over Javante Williams at current ADP, offering better value in startup drafts.

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Chase Brown

PositiveValue0:19

Better pass-catching running back than Javante Williams, offering more upside in PPR formats and better value at his ADP.

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Chris Rodriguez

PositiveValue0:31

The analyst prefers Chris Rodriguez over Bejal Tooting because he's much cheaper and fits the Jaguars' run-heavy system better, with the team being 6th in inside-the-five attempts.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeProjection0:48

The hosts are lower on Christian McCaffrey compared to consensus, primarily due to age considerations in dynasty rankings, though they remain generally bullish on him as a player.

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Christian Watson

NegativeInjury0:46

Christian Watson's hamstring injuries are a recurring concern that limits his availability and upside, with the hosts noting his hamstrings 'don't like football' and preventing him from being a reliable weapon.

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NegativeProjection0:52

One host believes Christian Watson is overvalued in current rankings and would have been his third overvalued asset if discussed in detail, suggesting he's ranked higher than warranted.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveValue0:01

Already priced as tight end three in dynasty despite only a 17% target share in his dominant stretch and 37% TD rate, with risk he finishes as tight end nine if he doesn't hit his ceiling outcome.

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NegativeProjection0:04

Had lower route participation at 64.9% compared to AJ Barnard, raising concerns about whether his dominant half-season performance will sustain.

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NegativeRole0:05

Risk that Roma Dunze becomes the alpha receiver in the Bears offense, as Dunze had the best draft capital of all pass catchers and was averaging 19 points per game early in the season.

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NegativeBust0:08

If he doesn't hit tight end three or better, there's significant downside risk given his current valuation, similar to how Jackson Dart was overpriced relative to alternatives.

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PositiveValue0:23

The speaker references Colston Loveland as an example of a player whose value is uncertain due to questions about whether he'll be the bonafide number one target in his offense, similar to concerns about Lad McConkie.

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David Montgomery

NegativeValue0:52

The hosts are 19 spots below crowdsource consensus on David Montgomery, viewing his current ADP around 9th round as aggressive for a 29-year-old running back with limited long-term dynasty value.

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PositiveProjection0:53

While the hosts like David Montgomery as a player and would trade a 2nd round pick for him in redraft, his dynasty value is limited by age and the short window of elite production remaining.

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NegativeProjection0:54

David Montgomery's dynasty value is severely limited because his production is only valuable to a finite number of competing teams, making him difficult to trade if circumstances change.

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PositiveProjection0:56

For competing teams in 2025, David Montgomery is a strong piece that can be acquired for a 2nd round pick, offering immediate RB production to help a team win now.

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DeVonta Smith

PositiveProjection0:28

Devonta Smith is mentioned as a receiver ranked ahead of Jalen Waddle in the analyst's rankings.

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Emanuel Wilson

PositiveRole0:39

Emmanuel Wilson received some money from the Seahawks and could be a factor in the backfield, competing with Jadarian Price for touches.

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George Holani

NegativeRole0:39

George Helani is expected to be primarily a special teamer and not a significant factor in the Seahawks offense.

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Harold Fannin

PositiveProjection0:06

Could potentially outperform Colston Loveland despite being in a worse offensive situation, with potential for 900+ yards and multiple touchdowns.

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Isiah Pacheco

NegativeRole0:21

Similar to James Connor, Pacheco faces uncertainty about his role due to backfield depth, with the speaker suggesting someone will lose touches in a crowded running back situation.

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Jadarian Price

NegativeValue0:35

The analyst ranks Jadarian Price at RB 20 versus crowdsource at RB 18, but considers him overvalued and similar to Javante Williams. Price is 'hyperinflated' in the 2024 rookie class and lacks the ceiling of other options in that range.

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Jalen Milroe

PositiveSleeper0:41

Jalen Milrow is described as 'a great stash to have' and 'a tournament play in best ball tournaments for Super Flex,' suggesting he has value as a late-round pick.

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James Conner

PositiveRole0:21

Could potentially reunite with Clayton Adams in Dallas, creating a potential committee situation that could impact other running backs' value.

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NegativeRole0:21

The speaker suggests James Connor may lose touches due to Dallas having too many running backs competing for carries, with Jerry Jones needing to 'cut the pie' and potentially not having enough volume for Connor.

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Javonte Williams

NegativeValue0:14

Overvalued at current ADP, going around players like Sam Laporta, T. Higgins, Makai Lemon, and Cam Scadabo who offer better value at their respective positions.

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NegativeProjection0:14

Ranked 143rd in EPA at negative 21.5 and 30th in yards created per touch, indicating poor efficiency metrics that don't support his current valuation.

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NegativeRole0:17

One of the least efficient pass-catching running backs in recent memory with terrible 40-50 catch seasons, limiting his upside in PPR formats.

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NegativeProjection0:19

His value is only going down when the 2027 running back class hits, with no upside movement expected in the coming years.

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PositiveValue0:36

Javante Williams is presented as a safer alternative to Jadarian Price in the same range, with the analyst preferring him in the 'high octane Cowboys offense.'

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Jayden Higgins

PositiveSleeper0:55

Jaden Higgins is a strong rebuild target because David Montgomery's arrival in Houston will create a ripple effect throughout the Texans offense, providing more scoring opportunities for receivers.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveProjection0:28

The analyst is 'very high on Jalen Waddle this year' and has him ranked after Lad McConkie, seeing a scenario where he could have a 'pure run out' with AJ Brown out of the way.

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Joe Mixon

PositiveProjection0:54

Joe Mixon was the RB1 overall in points per game for the first 12 weeks of the 2024 season after the Cowboys game, demonstrating that Houston can support an elite bell cow running back.

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Jordan Love

NegativeProjection0:44

The hosts are 12 spots lower than crowdsource consensus on Jordan Love in super flex, tight end premium rankings, with Shev at 58, Casey at 62, and Jeremiah at 74, indicating skepticism about his dynasty value.

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The analyst ranks Jordan Love 12 spots lower than crowdsource in Super Flex, Tight End Premium scoring, with individual rankings ranging from 58-74.

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NegativeProjection0:44

After a QB5 rookie season, Jordan Love has regressed to QB18 and QB15 finishes, establishing a pattern of mid-tier QB2 performance that the hosts view as overvalued at current ADP.

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NegativeProjection0:47

Jeremiah views Jordan Love as a mid QB2 with limited upside, preferring other options like Dak Prescott, Tyler Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, and Cam Newton, ranking him as QB18 with no room for him in his top tier.

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Kareem Hunt

PositiveUsage0:31

Kareem Hunt is mentioned as having a similar 1.2% explosive run rate to Bejal Tooting, tied for the lowest among running backs with 80 carries.

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Kyle Pitts

NegativeValue0:15

Not preferred over Javante Williams at current ADP, suggesting overvaluation relative to other available options.

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Kyler Murray

NegativeProjection0:49

The hosts are 17 points below consensus on Kyler Murray, with Shev at 125, Casey at 94, and Jeremiah at 104, indicating significant skepticism about his dynasty value despite recent optimism.

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PositiveProjection0:50

Casey notes that Kyler Murray's success depends on whether he wants to perform, and while the ecosystem and coaching staff are optimal, there's uncertainty about his motivation and willingness to execute.

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PositiveValue0:51

Despite ranking concerns, Kyler Murray can be acquired late in startups and offers value as a QB2 or QB3 alongside elite receivers like Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison.

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PositiveProjection0:51

One host sees a potential Daniel Jones 2.0 revival path for Kyler Murray in 2026, suggesting a long-term bounce-back trajectory if he can stay healthy and engaged.

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NegativeProjection0:51

Shev expresses strong negativity on Kyler Murray, stating 'He stinks and I hate him' and declaring he's done with the Kyler Murray business, indicating a fade on the quarterback.

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Makai Lemon

PositiveValue0:15

Preferred over Javante Williams at current ADP, offering better value in startup drafts.

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Miles Sanders

PositiveRole0:16

Previously favored over Javante Williams by analyst before reconsidering the value of Javante's safety and volume.

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Nick Chubb

NegativeProjection0:55

Nick Chubb couldn't replicate his previous elite production in Houston, making David Montgomery the preferred bell cow option for the Texans offense.

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Nico Collins

PositiveRole0:46

Nico Collins is viewed as a superior weapon compared to Houston's receiving options, with the hosts preferring the Packers' overall receiving corps over what the Texans have in their offense.

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Oronde Gadsden

PositiveRole0:23

Rondé Gadsden is mentioned as another pass-catching option in the Chargers offense who could receive some targets.

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Parker Washington

PositiveBreakout0:49

Parker Washington has become Shev's preferred Jaguars receiver target over Brian Thomas Jr., suggesting he sees more upside in Washington's role and development.

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Rashaad Penny

NegativeProjection0:39

Rashad Penny is referenced as a cautionary tale, suggesting Jadarian Price could follow a similar trajectory of being drafted early but not panning out.

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Sam LaPorta

PositiveValue0:15

Preferred over Javante Williams at current ADP, offering better value in startup drafts.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeProjection0:48

The hosts are lower on Saquon Barkley compared to consensus, primarily due to age considerations in dynasty rankings, though they remain generally bullish on him as a player.

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Travis Etienne

PositiveValue0:15

Preferred over Javante Williams at current ADP, offering better value and upside potential.

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PositiveRole0:31

Travis Etienne caught roughly 30 passes this year, but Jacksonville was 30th in target percentage to running backs, limiting his pass-catching utility.

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Tre Harris

PositiveRole0:23

Trey Harris is mentioned as a player the Chargers invested capital in and like, who will receive some role in the offense, potentially competing for targets with Lad McConkie.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveSleeper0:08

Represents a safer value alternative to Colston Loveland, available two rounds later with significantly less risk while maintaining upside potential.

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PositiveRole0:46

Tucker Kraft is mentioned as a Packers weapon that ranks favorably compared to Houston's receiving options, indicating he's viewed as a valuable piece in Green Bay's offense.

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Tyler Warren

PositiveSleeper0:08

Mentioned as a potential tier-down alternative to Colston Loveland, offering similar upside with less risk and better value two rounds later in drafts.

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Woody Marks

NegativeProjection0:55

Woody Marks is viewed as a backup-level running back in the 20-25 range, unable to compete with David Montgomery for the primary bell cow role in Houston.

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Zach Charbonnet

PositiveRole0:38

If Zach Charbonnet is healthy, he will be a part of the Seahawks offense, potentially limiting Jadarian Price's role and touches.

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Episode Transcript

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0:45Basically, you know, sells. If we did some buy-lows, these would be sell, baby!
0:49Sell! Now, again, when we do these shows, this is not necessarily an indictment of I dislike this player.
0:56A lot of this is derived from the FFDynasty.com, the expert rankings, and then looking sort of where the crowdsource and where
1:03the ADP kind of comes into play and where we are above or below.
1:07So, we're going to start off with some overvalued players and talk about those, and then we're going to roll through the
1:15end of it of like our extra consensus rankings against the crowdsource rankings and talk about some players that are just kind of generally overvalued in that regard.
1:24So, everybody ready to go? How's everybody feeling today?
1:27You know me, man. Any day on this side of the dirt is good.
1:31Here we go. Hee-ha! Fill in my plums. All right, boys.
1:35Plums. Oh, sorry. My bad. Shev, I'm going to need you to start off because the first guy I feel like that
1:42you sent me, I had to clutch my pearls.
1:45And this is the kind of show that everybody gets riled up about and hates.
1:50So, I think you should lead off with Colston Loveland.
1:53Well, I'm going to do this in Stephen A's voice, okay?
1:57Okay. Unequivocally, the most overrated player in our rankings is going to be Colston Loveland of the Chicago Bears.
2:03I'm not going to do it in Stephen A's voice the whole time.
2:07But, Colston Loveland. All right, so, listen, guys. I know what I've said all offseason.
2:12I know that I have said that I think that Ben Johnson is going to go into his coach's office, lock himself
2:19in there with some candles, do a darkness retreat by himself, watching the film, okay?
2:24Watching it in the dark. Blindfolded. Listening to it.
2:27Listening to it. Really just taking in everything that he can so that he knows which way to go with this offense in 2026.
2:35I know that I said he might build it around Luther Burden and Colston Loveland, but what if he doesn't?
2:41Okay, we've already priced Colston Loveland as though he is he who remains.
2:45He is the tight end three in all of dynasty football.
2:49He is going. He's already ascended and we're just waiting for the outcome to prove it.
2:54And I just have trouble with, okay, so only a 17% target share, 17.8% to be exact, okay?
3:00In the stretch where he was dominant, where he scored, you know, only Trey McBride scored more points.
3:06He's at 37% TD rate. Like that's, I mean, obviously, Roma Dunze is dominating that.
3:11Casey, you've alluded to that several times throughout the offseason as to why you believe that Roma Dunze is one of the
3:18most mispriced assets in all of dynasty. And I just can't.
3:22There's this nagging thing in the back of my head where we've crowned.
3:26We've crowned guys a little bit too early. We did it with CJ Stroud.
3:30We did it with Jayden. I don't think we're off with Jayden Daniels just because of the rushing upside.
3:37Different story for a different day. But what if he's just good this coming year?
3:41What if he's, what if he just finishes as like the tight end nine?
3:46And he's only around in tight end premium. He's around 12 points a game.
3:51Still tremendous for your dynasty team because there's still room to grow.
3:54And he's tied to what we believe is an elite passer.
3:58You, me and Big Co have talked about this.
4:01And like, what if it just doesn't, what if we don't get the nut outcome pause for, for Colston Loveland in 2026?
4:08I just, I, he had a lower route participation during this break.
4:12They're in the breakout at 64, 64.9% than AJ Barnard.
4:15Like as we got some crazy efficiency. And again, he's really, really, really good from a real football perspective, from a fantasy perspective.
4:23He dominated. But we've already priced him as though he has arrived.
4:27And if he's not the Prince who was promised, I know, listen, I, if you've already turned, if you haven't turned the
4:34episode off by now, I, I genuinely apologize. I don't want to do this, but I woke up in calling a cold
4:41sweat thinking about like, what if Colston Loveland didn't just dominate in 2026?
4:45And I had to start looking into it and everything.
4:49Listen, there's no advanced metric. You're going to point to he's over two points, 2.21 yards per out run in that stretch.
4:56I mean, he was, you know, 0.57 fantasy points per out run in that stretch.
5:01Everything points to the fact that he's going to, he's going to do what we think he's going to do.
5:07And he did it for a half a season.
5:10But what if it's a little bit flatter targets here?
5:13What if Rome is the alpha? Technically has the best draft capital of all the pass catchers.
5:19Right. And he, and he was 19 points a game for the first five weeks of the season.
5:25And I believe like 16 through the first eight before he hurts his foot.
5:29And then he takes the goose against the Ravens or the Bengals.
5:33I can't remember which one it was, but just what if it's not, what if, what if we just have to be delayed, not denied?
5:41You heard us say that a bunch on this episode.
5:45So I wanted to exercise a little bit of caution.
5:48We've got them. The consensus, the crowdsource consensus has them at 23.
5:52We've got them at 26 and our consensus expert ranking.
5:55So a very small, very small delta there, but also just again, what if Tyler Warren outperforms him this year?
6:01What if Harold Fannin with, you know, is the unquestioned alpha and a really crappy offense, but still he goes out and he gives you another 900.
6:10And, you know, he gives you 908 touchdowns and Colson Loveland's only at 880 and like five.
6:16What if he gets unlucky from a touchdown perspective?
6:19It's just that we've already priced it as though it has happened.
6:23And there's no coming back from that. Like burn the boats if you want to.
6:27I think it's a great bet, but I just need to exercise some caution here and put it out there into the atmosphere, into the ether.
6:36Yeah. I think Colson Loveland could be slightly overvalued right now.
6:40He doesn't need to hit it this year for it to, you know, to be, you know, the right call and the right outcome.
6:47I think we had caught up in that year by year in dynasty necessarily, but that's, this is the point of overvalued, right?
6:55You're talking about players. It's not that you dislike them.
6:58It's that like you mentioned Warren and fanning clearly Loveland is in the best offense, right?
7:03And so that's guys, we want to be, we want to invest in ecosystems.
7:08But to me, like I want to invest in ecosystems that, you know, that, that, that, that usually the cheapest part of
7:15ecosystems, unless it's already a proven commodity, like, you know, Justin Jefferson, or then those guys are obviously priced accordingly.
7:22And like you're saying, Colson Loveland has already been priced as though he is that commodity.
7:27Whereas there's still Luther burden. There's still Roma dunze.
7:30There's still a running game really, you know? So, so I don't think Colson Loveland by any stretch of the imagination is going to be a bust.
7:38It's a pretty safe pick for the most part.
7:41It's just, if he doesn't reach the ceiling of outcome that he's kind of priced at right now, that would be kind
7:49of the reason why he would be slightly overvalued here.
7:52Jeremiah, I see your, you got your hands going.
7:55You're ready to, you're ready to get in here.
7:58I love this. And I'm not going to come in like skip Bayless on the other end, but really, if he doesn't
8:05hit tight end three or better, you run that risk.
8:08And then I love to shove what you said about Tyler Warren.
8:12And you know, I'm going to say for you, what about two rounds later with somebody like Tucker craft, you take so much less risk.
8:20And this is like a flying so close to the sun point.
8:24It reminds me so much eerily of when Casey was on here talking about Jackson Dart, who was going ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
8:32Now there's not a Patrick Mahomes at the tight end position that's behind Colson Loveland right now.
8:37But the idea was, I remember Casey, you weren't sitting there sipping on haterade for Jackson Dart.
8:43You were just saying, hey, I think we should venture into this is a good opportunity to sell.
8:48So that's a little bit adjacent to overvalued. So to this point, I would also say, I think you should look and
8:56investigate if he's being priced Colson Loveland like he's a top three, like he's a top tier in that price point.
9:02Is there can you venture and see if you can sell him as if he is because if you can get somebody
9:10to bite, you may benefit from a tier down.
9:13I think tight end is one of the most difficult positions to tear down him.
9:17But I love the stand that chef has here because you if Colson Loveland is tight end seven, eight, nine.
9:24You it's got to be top three. That's the one risk we always push our chips in when we go Brock Bowers as much as we love him.
9:33And if he does not hit like he did and it could be no fault of his own, it could be injury last year.
9:41It's exactly so it sinks you. So just a good contrarian take point to point out.
9:46And to be fair, it can it can sink you for the year, but did not get discouraged.
9:52And that's OK. I'm not necessarily going to go out in the living and say, hey, I'm going to willy nilly sell
9:59Loveland because I think he's a little overvalued here.
10:02I'm fine with clicking the button in a startup at certain aspects.
10:06But like like you said, guys like Tucker Craft, who, you know, chef's not allowed to mention his name for at least three or four episodes.
10:14So we we did it for him. And then, you know, we talked about Tyler Warren on on overpay.
10:21And if you go back and look at like everyone's forgotten how good his first eight to ten games were and the seasons just finished differently.
10:29So like like you said, if you could that would be a potential move is like, hey, we move down to a
10:36fan in or Warren whose situation isn't as good.
10:39And it's not as sexy right now, but you could get something on top.
10:44Not necessarily saying I would, but I like it.
10:47I like the overvalued. Take a step back. Big Co is going to be shitting about this, but it's not about it's not about that.
10:55We we all like Colson Loveland. We all think Colson Loveland can be in that range of outcomes, which is why we have him ranked where we do.
11:04We're kind of with it, but generally maybe a little bit of overpay.
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14:19Coach, Jer, what do you got here for us?
14:22What's your first overvalued player here? Hey, Jeremiah. All right.
14:25Yeah. Javante Williams. It's Javante Williams. And for me, just flying too close to the sun.
14:30I'm in a startup or I'm in even in the redraft streets and I'm like, damn, this price already?
14:37You know, the appetizers on the menu as a metaphor are just as expensive as the entrees.
14:42What is going on here? That kind of reminds me for an analogous manner, Javante Williams.
14:47I just think, look at him last year. Yards created per touch, 30th.
14:52EPA, negative 21.5. Ranks 143rd. That's RB, I don't know, 18th.
14:55I don't even know what 12 times, whatever that is.
14:5812 times 12. That's terrible. Bucklehead, terrible, Charlie. And for me, he's going around players in startup land.
15:04Sam Laporta, T. Higgins, Makai Lemon. These are all players I would much rather have.
15:09Cam Ward, BTJ, Cam Scadabo at his fellow position who will go later.
15:13Travis Etienne I'd rather have. Yeah, I'm not sold to Kyle Pitts.
15:17There's so many players. Tyler Shuck. I'm just rattling off.
15:21I'm staring at ADPs right now. And I'm just not there for Javante Williams.
15:25I think he's overvalued, overheated. He ran into a wonderful season last year as an RB12 overall.
15:31An back-end RB1. So kudos to him. And I don't buy so much of the smoke of the other backs, be it Jaden Blue, Phil Maffa.
15:39I don't see them eating into the carry share on Javante Williams.
15:43I'm just saying that he's overvalued at this point.
15:46And especially when we look into next year, when we get our stable of running backs, I see Javante going down in the rankings rather than up.
15:55So I'm really, I'm, I'm whelmed. So at his price point where he is versus all those players that I had mentioned,
16:02I'm much more, you know, how does Cam Scadabo like, how are they neck and neck?
16:07I want Cam Scadabo smash all day. So yeah, that's, I think overvalued.
16:11I'm not, I'm not going to give you any help on this one.
16:16You got to bail yourself out. Shev, this, this, um, this is an interesting one for you because you were, you were
16:23an anti Javante and then you had to get back in.
16:26So where do you stand on this one? Is this, is this overcorrection?
16:31Are you overcorrecting and getting back in on Javante?
16:33Or do you, you feel similarly to where Jeremiah is right now?
16:37Well, you see alligators are so ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.
16:43Okay. So I was, I, so yes, I was out completely out.
16:47I mean, you can go back and fantasy receipts and shit out of me about Javante because I was like team Miles
16:54Sanders and all this other stuff, man. So, but now I feel like, I feel like he's one of the more safe players.
17:01So he's going to give you about 15, 16 points a game.
17:05He's going to handle most of most. Now look at me.
17:09I'm using my hands like Jeremiah. What's the deal?
17:12Is that contagious? All right. So, but in all seriousness though, I feel like he's one of the safer picks that you
17:19can make now that he's healthy again, now that we've seen healthy Javante, the monsters don't have his powers anymore.
17:25He's bouncing off tackles. He's, you know, he is one of the most, the least efficient pass catching running backs that we've seen in recent memory.
17:34Like he's just, this is the worst, like the worst 40 and 50 catch seasons you could ever imagine.
17:40But I feel like, yeah, he's still young enough to where he's a value.
17:44But also like if I could get Cam Scatabo around later, I'm just going to go get the Anglo-Saxon Assassin CTE Scat Pack.
17:52All right. Yeah. He's two picks. The Scat Pack's two picks away in our June ADP.
17:57But should they be near each other? But here's the thing.
18:01There's just such a better offensive environment you can create for Javante than you do for the Scat Pack.
18:07That's and he's healthy. We don't have any questions about.
18:10It's just to me, it's safety of Javante. Or do you want to, I mean, not, and I don't, I think if,
18:17if Scatabo is healthy and right, he's probably going to get the lion's share of that backfield.
18:23So you're probably fine there. But again, like you said, environment and stuff like that.
18:28So, but I agree. I think it's just volume and safety for Javante.
18:32That makes me not be terribly concerned. I'm not like, oh my God, I love the guy.
18:38But when you get into that area and you're like, hey, I need an RB2 here.
18:43I don't think it's the worst, but. It's not.
18:46I don't think it's the worst. I'm just saying it's overvalued.
18:49I'm not saying it's the worst. It's the worst.
18:52Salutations. It's overvalued. So I, I, here's, here's what I'll, I'll land a plane on this.
18:57I think that he is going to, he's never going to be a cornerstone.
19:02He's never going to be a moneymaker. I think he's, or excuse me.
19:06I think that his ceiling now is going into the moneymakers value losers bucket.
19:11Yeah. Like he's, he's on the, he's less sexy chase Brown.
19:14Chase Brown's much better pass catcher. I feel much better pass catcher.
19:18Right. And, and we got, we got the contract security Javante three years, 20, 22 and a half million dollars or whatever it is.
19:26So it's safe, but also Jeremiah's point was very, very, very prescient and salient in that when that 27 class hits, he's
19:33not going, he's, his value is only going down.
19:36Yeah. There, there certainly is no, yes, absolutely. A hundred percent.
19:40Like there's no, you can't draft him. And, and like, I don't, I don't know that there's a whole lot of movement upwards with, with Javante.
19:48Question. Gentlemen is the proper play. I know this is a mainly a dynasty topic, but do we see redraft it's the
19:55play for Javante dynasty be buyer beware. I could be okay with that for the most part.
20:01I mean, I don't, you know, it really just depends on how that Dallas with the running back has really just, they've
20:08actually, they've, they've played it really well after being bamboozled by Zeke for a little while there.
20:14So I got to give them a shout out, but if, unless they add somebody else to this backfield, which obviously they,
20:21they could, that would be, I think really the, the what's the analogy I'm looking for?
20:26Just the straw that breaks the camel's back for lack of, of Javante, right?
20:31If, cause if you just, if you get the floodgates going to be open, you're going to get all the volume, then
20:38it's probably fine for the most part, but it's not sexy.
20:41It's not probably gaining any value. It was just going to put some points in your lineup, but that, that would be a killer.
20:49If the second running back creeps in there and, and takes really anything away from them.
20:54Well, I know I said the last thing I would say.
20:58Oh, my bad guys. But what if, what if, you know, they bring in the Cardinals have no use for Cardinals have
21:05no use for James Connor final year of his deal.
21:08Can only can cut them for like 1.2 dead cap.
21:12And he reunites with Clayton Adams, who he had his career highs and efficiency across the board with in 2024.
21:18And now it's just this nasty, it's just this nasty committee where you got a 31 year old out there looking better than 25 year old Javante.
21:27And it's just an absolute mess. I don't think that that's going to happen, but I'm just saying.
21:33I do think this Cardinals conundrum is going to get somebody.
21:36I was going to say this to circle the plane.
21:40I have this thought exercise. You're in my head, Chev on that with this Dallas topic.
21:45James Connor is going to get scatabot. Also the same thing for somebody like a Pacheco.
21:50Somebody's going to get caught. Yeah, that's that's where I mean, that's where we all want James Connor to go is Detroit.
21:57But this different story for a different day. Somebody's getting got look, Jerry's cutting the pie and he's going to say we
22:04don't have enough pie for James Connor around here.
22:07All right. One running back. It's too many running backs.
22:11All right. So we just we're just gonna go one and then two is two too many.
22:16Because pie. That was like the the water boy and not good.
22:20All right. I'm going to throw my mind in the ring here.
22:24I'm going to go with Lad McConkie here and kind of just going through this again.
22:29No shade on Lad been a huge Lad supporter.
22:32I like I like Lad. I like the lads.
22:35But if you go through and you look at our FF dashboard, you can see pretty much all of us are, you know, lower on Lad than consensus.
22:44We're we're 14 spots lower together from our consensus against the crowdsource consensus.
22:48Right. So generally, we're all there. Jeremiah, you're the highest at 45.
22:52I'm the lowest at 59. She was in the middle of 57.
22:56Right. And this just kind of comes back more to sort of what Shev was just saying about Colson Loveland.
23:03Right. That's really all this is has nothing to do with Lad McConkie.
23:07It has to do with like, hey, is he your bonafide number one?
23:11And is he going to be the guy who just gets all, you know, gets the big time value of this pie?
23:18You know, and that's really the question to me.
23:21And if he is, then he's not priced high enough.
23:24Right. But if if it is going to be spread around and we're going to run the ball well and, and, you
23:32know, Hampton's going to be somebody who gets leaned on and eats up maybe a little bit extra passing volume here or
23:39there, or maybe Keaton Mitchell does some of that.
23:42Right. But if a Rondé Gadsden's in there and the joke, who's getting some love and obviously Charlie Kohler is going to eat.
23:49But, you know, then, then you have somebody in Trey Harris who they invested, you know, some capital in who the team
23:56really likes, regardless of what you think. And then Quentin Johnston has, has, you know, slowly, quietly, you know, a la Shev
24:03been creeping up in a lot of spots. And I think people are getting hip to the idea of like, he could
24:11be a big part of what the Chargers do this year.
24:14And that all those things just hurt lad a little bit.
24:18To me, this is just kind of like Jaguars esque, right?
24:21We like the ecosystem. We trust Herbert more than we trust Trevor for sure at this point.
24:27Right. Generally. But we like the system and the environment.
24:30And this is the same thing. I could put BTJ in this, just take lad out and put BTJ in and say,
24:37Hey, BTJ is a little cheaper, but like, listen, if all of these things are going to work, the pie is probably
24:45unless Trevor and or Herbert is, uh, you know, 5,000 yard passer again.
24:49And, you know, and throws a million attempts, then it's probably fine.
24:53Look, they're probably going to be really efficient. And lad's probably going to be just fine.
24:58Regardless. I just feel like we're, we're a little bit lower on lad than maybe where the market has in price.
25:05So that's kind of the point of this overvalued, I'm not saying I'm rushing out to sell lad, just like you're saying,
25:12you're not rushing out to sell Colson Loveland. But if I could get a different asset that I felt more comfortable with
25:19being the bonafide number one with something on top of it, I'm okay with going that route with lad right now is
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26:33See terms. With that, it's just that there's, there are people with more certainty of role than what we can create for Lab McConkie.
26:40Now you want to be, he's the most expensive piece as a, you know, of all the pass catchers without question.
26:47And what you're saying, we know that if Justin Herbert's healthy, offensive lines healthy, this is going to be a really, really good, healthy ecosystem.
26:55From a fantasy perspective, sorry for saying healthy, like twice in the last 10 words, but it's going to be a really good ecosystem for fantasy.
27:04What if it's just not incredible for Lad? What if he's, obviously none of us think that he's Tyreek Hill.
27:10So what if he doesn't command a 25% target share and have 2000, you know, 2000 air yards or something ridiculous like that.
27:18And he's, what if it's just good and you could select, you know, you're trying to win this year.
27:24You could get AJ Brown and a pick for Lad McConkie and you're close to taking, you know, you're close to taking it home.
27:32You know, in that, you see what I'm saying?
27:35Like it just, there's ways to move. There's utility in his price that you can move around and get to a more
27:42certain and more stable piece and you don't have to do anything drastic.
27:46And it's not really going to hurt you that much because he wasn't great in your lineups last year.
27:52I believe he was what? 11 and a half points a game.
27:56Yeah. So you're just not in a place where you're, you're not in a place where you're going to give up.
28:03You're going to get the high end yield that we all, that we all were looking forward to in 2025 after that
28:10rookie season where he was 82 for 11, 50 and seven.
28:14Like what if that is more so the ceiling than it is, or more so the normal range of outcomes as opposed
28:21to, as opposed to what we think that him being Justin Herbert's number one target and Mike McDaniels offense represents.
28:28And the cool thing, it, it seems like the takeaway too, from listening to two of you, it's better to have him already on your roster.
28:36Lab McConkie versus having to go and pay that startup price, which is it.
28:41He's got to hit that mark to pay off.
28:44And that's where you're sitting there saying, cause I look at receivers that I have behind him ranked.
28:49I gentlemen, I'm very high on Jalen Waddle this year.
28:53I have him ranked after Lab McConkie. I can see a scenario.
28:57I have him three receivers after Devonta Smith. We could see him have a pure run out with AJ Brown out of the way.
29:04Rashi Rice, he's just had some legal intersection, but when he's on the field, he can hoop.
29:10So I see what you're saying with he's at a ceiling price right now.
29:14So to a degree overvalued, very close venturing on, you know, this could get dangerous if he doesn't pay off.
29:21Yeah. Yeah. And again, really like lad. I'm not rushed out to sell him, but he would be the first on my list here.
29:29So, uh, she have, let's kick it back to you.
29:32You got a second overvalued player and then we'll go back to juror.
29:36And then we'll, we'll look at a bunch of guys rapid fire at the end here.
29:41Can you find enough pie when you're talking to Jerry Jones?
29:45I don't know. Well, to answer your question, I do have a second.
29:49And I, I think the hype's gotten a little out of control for Bejal Tooting.
29:54I've been saying this. I've been saying it. Hey, I've been saying it.
29:58I'm not just some guy. I invented the piano key necktie.
30:02Okay. All right. So crowdsource, I believe he's at 94.
30:05Uh, I have him at 122. Uh, so there's nearly a 30 spot difference between where I think he is and what I think he does.
30:14And where, where everyone else, you know, everyone who's contributed would shout out to you guys.
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30:29Casey didn't know I was going to do that, but I did it.
30:34So here we are, but I'm team C rod.
30:37I'm team crowd all the way. No questions asked.
30:39I've been here. I remain. I am. He who remains and tunes at RB, RB 23.
30:45And I just don't like this one. Jacksonville was one of the lowest, lowest in terms of target share of the running back at 11.9%.
30:53They're 30th in the league. Okay. So you're already eliminating the past catching utility.
30:57What Travis, Travis, a Chan did. I see. I got it right that time.
31:02I almost messed it up, but I got it right.
31:05Travis, a Chan caught roughly 30 some odd balls this year, but they were 30th in target percentage to running back.
31:12And I don't think that that's going to change 1.2% explosive run rate.
31:16That was tied with Kareem hunt amongst running backs with 80 carries for 52nd in the league.
31:22Chris Rodriguez is at 3.6% last year. And this is a team that wants to run the football.
31:28They were sixth in inside the five attempts. That also fits Chris Rodriguez much more than it does Bejal Tootin.
31:34So we're, everybody has already said, Hey, here's, here's where we're going with Bejal Tootin.
31:39And it's just like, you don't care. I know I had, you know, a buddy of mine tell me, well, Chris Rodriguez
31:46was inactive for the commanders, you know, a long time ago.
31:50So, I mean, he's obviously not good. And Bejal Tootin, I mean, the GM, Ellen, the GM picked him.
31:56So, that's obviously why he's going to be better.
31:59I don't see it that way. And he was just more, he was bad.
32:03For a team that was really good at running the football last year, Bejal Tootin was bad from nearly every efficiency metric
32:11that you could, that you could dream of. I mean, him and, him and Chris Rodriguez were tied in missed tackle sports
32:18per attempt at 18, you know, basically 0.18. But gap schemes, he was at 3.3 yards a carry.
32:24Man, zone schemes, he was at 3.8. He aimed at 3.7 on the year in terms of yards per carry.
32:30So, this is just a screaming red flag to me that he's overvalued.
32:34And I would just much rather take Chris Rodriguez when I get the chance because it's much cheaper.
32:40And I know that, hey, he has history with Liam Cohen.
32:44But at the same time, I just, I was alarmed by it.
32:48Like, Bejal Tootin's supposed to be the explosive run guy.
32:51It's supposed to be, you know, the space satellite back.
32:54And I just can't get there. I can't get there.
32:58So, yeah. I mean, I think, I think, I think generally we've kind of gone back and forth all off season on this.
33:05And this, this could be the one that is, that is a great lottery ticket.
33:10Or it could be one that really sinks, sinks the ship if, if Chris Rodriguez comes in there and just makes this a timeshare.
33:18Right. And who, who the hell really knows? That's, this is the fun of it.
33:23This is the fun of this. And, you know, just kind of connecting the dots.
33:27I kind of tend to always lean back to you.
33:31Now, Rodriguez has missed a little bit of time here with an injury.
33:35So that could give Tootin, you know, a slight advantage here.
33:39But I do think, you know, LaQuinn Allen potentially having a little bit of say in some things of maybe some of that pass catching stuff.
33:47And then some short yardage for Rodriguez, some TDs for Rodriguez, maybe vultures him.
33:52And, and maybe, you know, Tootin can run away with this and just be so efficient and be so good and kind
33:59of get that breakaway percentage up and kind of show.
34:02So, you know, that's kind of why people like him because there is some explosiveness to his game.
34:08If he could show that, then it won't be.
34:11But, but I could feel you on this one.
34:14Jeremiah, you got anything else? Or you got, or you want to move on to your guy here?
34:20Yeah. There's an easy flipping opportunity round 15 to round seven where Rodriguez could usurp.
34:24And then you made the great point about LaQuinn Allen.
34:28That was a big problem about last year was LaQuinn Allen was on the field a lot more.
34:34And that's when Travis Etienne was around. And then you might bullish say, Hey, the Jaguars looked a year ahead.
34:40Have A-chan, Travis A-chan out. And then, Hey, this is Bejal Tootin's turn, but you bring in Rodriguez.
34:46And if that's going to put somewhat of a dent into your carry share, I think that's a problem from the jump.
34:53And then when you factor in the fact that LaQuinn Allen, that PPR goodness was on the field last year when Travis A-chan was there.
35:01I think that's an even worse signal. We don't even realize how much LaQuinn Allen is going to be on the field this year.
35:09Yeah. I, I, I, I, that could be all a huge factor in all of this.
35:14And this just becomes just like a weird three-way committee sort of situation that everybody, you know, kind of goes up and down.
35:22You don't know who to start. It kind of stinks.
35:25I could, I could certainly see that kind of playing out that way.
35:29So Tootin is there. How about Jeremiah? Give us, give us one more.
35:33Give us one more. And this one won't take too long.
35:37It is Jadarian Price. We don't have the cumulative stats because there's no NFL record so far.
35:43Right now I have him RB 20 to crowdsources RB 18.
35:46So I'm a little bit behind. But at the same time, I feel like this Price, he's near adjacent to Javante Williams.
35:53And for all the same reasons, but Javante Williams, with the players who are adjacent, be it Laporta, Higgins, Lemon, Cam Ward, BTJ.
36:01There's all sorts of players out there who I'd much rather have.
36:05And directionally, you take in the 27 class, it's going to be going down.
36:09I don't, I don't see Jadarian Price going up.
36:12Price is going to go down and we have to call back to Price being inflated, hyperinflated.
36:18Or he sometimes goes 106 in this rookie class, 107, 108, no business in any other class.
36:23And I'd like to see the bullish outcome for him.
36:27I believe he can catch passes because he can track a ball on a kickoff return.
36:32So I think that can translate. We've seen other running backs struggle with that in college and then prove to be capable pass catchers.
36:40I just don't see the ceiling there for Price.
36:43So to me, where he's at, he's overvalued. And I think some people are going to get got when there's other players
36:50in that field, in that area, who I think are much safer.
36:54I would say Javante Williams might be safer. So if you want to take those of those two, you go Javante in that high octane Cowboys offense.
37:02Yeah. You know, Price is so, I mean, I still have rookie drafts left because I'd like to draft some early.
37:09I like to draft some late. But I don't know any price right now.
37:14And it's not to say that I wouldn't. I do kind of like Janarian Price, but it will kind of come down.
37:21And recently, you've kind of had the reports of, well, the Seahawks didn't draft him to be a volume.
37:27Like, you don't know what the Seahawks drafted him to do.
37:31They certainly spent enough capital on him to be that.
37:34So it would be surprising if he doesn't get a reasonable amount of volume to start the season.
37:40And who else is the other people in there?
37:43Is it Emmanuel Wilson? Is it not? Like, that's really just going to be the difference maker here.
37:49If there's some volume for Price, this is probably fine.
37:52But I'm with you, though. Like, if you move to the next couple of classes, there's no reason for him to be kind of priced where he is.
38:01He'd be somebody who you'd be excited to pick up in the second round, like, a little later.
38:07Right? Instead of having to be like, oh, well, you're getting pigeonholed because you need an RB or he's the only RB in that range.
38:15So you're taking him four, five, six, seven overall, where, you know, typically, yeah, I think generally you can easily slap an overvalued price tag on there.
38:24So I don't hate that. Do you have any comments on price before we move on?
38:29It just feels like the 2024 running back class.
38:32Like, just in terms of where. So he gets earlier than he's the first running back outside of Jeremiah Love, right?
38:39You know, he gets first round draft capital. So we're all kind of like, I mean, Daniel Jeremiah, which another Jeremiah reference was just all over this.
38:48And every single one of his mock drafts, Seahawks are going to take a running back.
38:53Seahawks are going to take a Jadarian price. Seahawks are going to.
38:57And he does it. And then we're immediately we immediately forget that they'll just play the best guy.
39:03Like, if Zach Charbonnet is healthy, I don't know if he's got naked pictures of Mike McDonald or what.
39:09But he is going to be a part of this offense.
39:12They gave Emmanuel Wilson some money. George Helani. I don't think George Helani is going to be a real thing.
39:19I think he's a special teamer. Wilson is way better than Helani, right?
39:23Exactly. But there's just guys and names there to where this could go.
39:27This could go Rashad Penny-esque real fast. And you took him, you know, shout out to the one guy who was saying
39:34that I'll take Jadarian price at the one, two.
39:37Like, this can't feel good for you right now.
39:40And I offer my genuine condolences. But I just don't.
39:44I agree here. I'm not a big Jadarian price guy.
39:47And I don't think that this is going to be just his unquestioned backfield where he's just operating with impunity from week
39:54one or at any point in this season. So, yeah, I love this call.
39:59Yeah. And, you know, shout out to that guy.
40:01To be fair, it's offseason smoke and we have no idea.
40:05He could come out here and be 20 touches a game and look real dumb.
40:10But, you know, I think we're all kind of on the same page of how we agree.
40:15I do like the movement skills of Price. So, I do think there's a lot of stuff there that I like a lot.
40:23I do this style of Seahawks. Obviously, that defense is going to be good.
40:28I don't know. The Seahawks feel like somebody who is going to be a 500 team next year because the offense just
40:35kind of sputters and spits a little bit in this upcoming season potentially to me.
40:40I don't know. Maybe that's just my 49ers. I was like, you are wish casting so hard right now.
40:46Well, I mean, but to be fair, that offense wasn't anything that you were, like, super duper worried about last year.
40:53And we've got a coordinator that we have no idea what he does and how he operates.
40:58And, like, we were really excited about Kubiak and how the quarterback in Sam Donald functions with that play caller.
41:05And now we've got so much unknown there and already a system where there's not a whole lot to be scared of,
41:12especially now that Ken Walker's gone and Sharbs is banged up coming into the season.
41:17And you've got who? You've got JSN, you know?
41:20And so, I don't know. This is a lot for a rookie play caller to come into Super Bowl, hangover, yada, yada, yada.
41:27And I'm not – I really strongly did dislike the Seahawks for a while back in the day, but I have no will.
41:35Actually, I like McDonald's a lot of them, you know?
41:38So, I'm not an in-division hater by any means.
41:41Shout out to Big D. Well, if Sam Donald were to go down, the trajectory of this offense would go all the way left.
41:49If it ends up being Jalen Milrow, who we've talked about, Casey, it would be incredible.
41:54He's a great stash to have. He's been a tournament play in best ball tournaments for Super Flex ranks that I've been out there pursuing late.
42:02But that is one scenario where you talk about flying too close to the sun.
42:07It's not going to keep you off of JSN.
42:10But my God, if Sam Donald got hurt, even if he's not on your fantasy football team, if you have JSN, you
42:17want Sam Donald to just be – catch every green light, stop perfectly at every red light, get to and from A
42:24to B, wherever he needs to be. Get a great night's sleep, proper nutrition, have that arm feeling great because you need
42:32him to facilitate and keep things going for JSN.
42:35Yeah. All right. Let's run through some quick stuff here at the end with basically taking our consensus rankings against the crowdsource
42:42rankings and show us where we have some big discrepancies, right?
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44:03And we're using the crowdsource rankings on the FF Dynasty, tight end premium, super flex.
44:08And the first person that jumped out to me as I was scrolling down was Jordan Love.
44:13We are 12 spots lower than crowdsource on Jordan Love for super flex, tight end premium.
44:18Do we, I'm the, actually, Jeremiah's the lowest at 74.
44:22I'm 62 and Shev's at 58. How do we feel?
44:25And part of this process is kind of like, hey, do we need to move a ranking or do we feel good about it?
44:33So, I guess let's go around the room real quick.
44:36How are we feeling about the Jordan Love thing here?
44:39Are we talking about in relation to QB or the full board?
44:43We could, however you see it. All right. Go, go, Shev.
44:47I have. Is Jordan Love just CJ Stroud? Is that what this is?
44:51But, I mean. We had a QB5 season and then it's been 18 and 15 and that's just kind of where we're going to live.
44:59Man, if we got. We're going to be a good QB2.
45:03If we got a good QB5 season from CJ Stroud, I would shum my pants.
45:08I think, man, I think he's a little bit undervalued because, I mean, he's a spike week QB2.
45:13Like, that's where, that's essentially where he's priced. I mean, we've talked about it before.
45:18I think it's a great QB2. Right. Yeah. Right.
45:21So. Stroud was QB9 rookie season was kind of where I was pulling that from.
45:26Yeah. No, no, no. And then he was 17 and 21.
45:30Right. I mean, it's just gotten exponentially worse and it's kind of what the same thing.
45:35Yeah. Fine. Yes. He is. He is. Cheesehead. CJ Stroud.
45:38The problem with love is that he was older coming in and sat for a minute.
45:43So now he's just generally a little bit older.
45:46Stroud, we feel like there's going to be. And I don't, I'm not saying that love's bad.
45:52I think love is good. I think love. And I'm, we love love generally on the show.
45:57Yeah. You know, agree. Shout out to Tay Tay and, and you know, our boy, the tight end there.
46:04I mean, Kelsey is, we love love. But CJ Stroud, that was kind of a comparison that I was drawing there.
46:10Potentially. I think we feel better about the Packers generally.
46:14And I think love right now, you feel better about generally.
46:17But again, I think I don't want him to be, I don't either one of those guys to be my QB too.
46:24And I feel it's more fun to have Stroud.
46:27I feel like that you think that there's a bigger bounce back.
46:31I don't know that love's going to bounce all the way back to a, to a QB one steadily.
46:37Well, the, the issue is that for me is that love has love has discount Nico Collins and Christian Watson.
46:44The problem is Christian Watson's hamstrings don't like football.
46:47If you get a healthy Christian Watson, you get a better version.
46:51You get outside of Nico Collins. You're taking every single one of the, the Packers weapons over what they got in Houston.
46:58You got Tucker craft, you know, I did Jacob Gibbs.
47:01Shout out to Jay. We're going to become a Jacob Gibbs propaganda, propaganda podcast.
47:06You did it. And now I'm like, Oh, the seal has been broken.
47:10We can talk about Jacob Gibbs stuff on the show, but he said that he's this generation's Gronk and the numbers actually
47:17kind of supported in a weird way, but I, he's not allowed to talk about craft.
47:22Right. You're right. My bad. Yeah. You, you, you angled that in, man.
47:27That was shoehorned it in there at the end.
47:30My bad. My bad guys. I'll just see the floor.
47:33I'll just stop talking. I'll just stop talking. I'll give the floor to my house.
47:38Damn it. All right. All right. We'll, we'll, we'll get off love.
47:42We'll try to keep it moving quickly. Did you have anything that Jeremiah before we keep it?
47:47Oh, okay. He's just a mid for me, mid QB two.
47:51And for the reason being there's just seats for chairs.
47:54Give me Dak. Give me Tyler shot. Give me Baker Mayfield.
47:58Give me. Shev cam more. So it's just a matter of, and then you have all those top tier quarterbacks where I'm
48:05like, Hey, there's, there's no room here, but there's room for you as QB 18.
48:10And that's it. And at a certain point, you can only put so many players up in, and I would just say
48:17I'm, I'm lower than consensus on Jordan love. Yeah.
48:20And what's funny is when, when you scroll down to Stroud, we're 17 points higher than consensus on Stroud.
48:26So a general sentiment, it makes you see, you know, some youth, a little bit more excitement for him potentially there.
48:33So, um, you scroll down like guys like Saquon, AJ Brown, Christian McCaffrey, all of us are lower on pretty much for the most part, then consensus.
48:42That's just, I think just from a ranking standpoint, we're ranking them lower because they're older.
48:47Generally we're all in on those guys. I think rankings is difficult in that regard.
48:52Right. So I'm not going to spend a lot of time kind of talking about that.
48:57Uh, your hatred for Gervonta Williams was made clear, um, on this.
49:01Um, so he, he's a little lower, although we're only like two points off of where we have them ranked.
49:07Uh, chef's got them ranked the highest. Coincidentally enough, Brian Thomas, we kind of talked about a little bit in that lad.
49:14We, I feel like you could kind of swap them out for that.
49:19Um, you guys got any quick thoughts on Brian Thomas?
49:22Cause we're, we're a 13 spots lower and, um, she have your way lower than everybody else.
49:27Yes. I have, I went to see a man about a slot receiver and, and now I, I can't get excited about Brian Thomas jr.
49:36Anymore. It's all Parker Washington. Huh? Okay. Yeah. I just saw it.
49:39Shev you're one Oh seven and Casey and I are 64 and 70.
49:44My God, he, he wouldn't even be in the queue if, if we weren't lifting them up at this point.
49:50Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. A couple more play Kyler Murray.
49:54Um, where we are all a good, healthy 17 points below consensus.
49:58Shev you are, you are the weakest link. You're the lowest at one 25.
50:03I'm at 94. Um, and Jeremiah, you're at one Oh four.
50:06So I will say it does seem like maybe, maybe Kyler has rebound.
50:10Like I've been a firm, like, Hey, let's buy him.
50:14I'm fine with it. I like it. I think if he's playing, he's going to suspense.
50:19Fantasy points are going to be just fine. But like, it does feel like we've bounced way too far back into like,
50:26and I've made all the points on Kyler. Like, I think this is the best situation.
50:31I think this is the best coaching staff. I think, you know, yada, yada, yada, yada.
50:36Does he want to do it? Is really going to be kind of what kind of brings this horse to, uh, water here.
50:44But, you know, generally we're, we're, we're quite a bit lower verse ADP and quite a bit lower verse expert crowdsource.
50:51So, I mean, Chev, Jeremiah, any quick thoughts on Kyler or we feel good about that?
50:56Well, I feel good about it for the standpoint of you can still get him so late in startups to where the board gives you Kyler Murray.
51:05So I like the idea of him hitting well with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison.
51:09I don't know so much about TJ Hawkinson. You guys might be a little bit more appreciative of him, but I see it happening for Kyler Murray.
51:18And if you do the thought experiment of, well, if you're good this year, you get next year.
51:24I see just fruition. Daniel Jones 2.0 run out for Kyler Murray.
51:28So I see a revival path for him. I just don't feel like I need to rank him per se aggressively.
51:35And the beauty is in the underdog super flex tournament streets and in startups, the price is there where you can keep
51:42pushing and you can tell yourself a story as you're, QB two or your QB three and be happy about it.
51:49Any quick thoughts on Kyler here? Shiv, the crowdsource rankings right now have him at 87.
51:54He stinks and I hate him. I'm done. I'm, I'm done with the Kyler Murray business.
51:59Okay. I'm out. I'm, I was firmly back in.
52:02I don't know. I don't love the price right now.
52:05I might be a sort of out, but I'm, I kind of, if, if, if he wants to do it, I think
52:13he can be on a Daniel Jones trajectory. I just don't know how much, how much he wants to do it.
52:19That's really the only thing here. I think the ecosystem and the people surrounding him can, can help him get to another level here.
52:27I got one more before we sign off here.
52:30And Christian Watson would have been my third guy if we were talking about him, because I think he's a little overvalued right now.
52:38You guys have him ranked a little higher than I do.
52:41Um, that's another story for another day, but, but David Montgomery was one that really jumped off the page here when I
52:49looked at him and we are 19 and we're all ranked very similar.
52:53And you're the highest on him, um, Jeremiah. And I think we're all high on David Montgomery generally, like as far as
53:00the player and what he could do this year, but we're 19 spots below crowdsource in our consensus here.
53:06Um, and David Montgomery right now is, uh, let's see here in, um, yeah.
53:11Like he's coming in at like one Oh five ish RB 24, like in a dynasty situation.
53:16I don't know. It just seems like, I like the idea of Montgomery.
53:21I will buy David Montgomery if the price is right.
53:24But like, it seems like the price is, is a little aggressive right now, which I didn't see coming at all.
53:31Like it felt like nobody cared. And now all of a sudden a lot of David Montgomery apparently, uh, love.
53:37So thoughts generally on this Montgomery situation. Cause I, there's no chance I'm moving him up in my rankings.
53:43He's 29 years old. Uh, that doesn't mean that I'm out on the player by any means.
53:49I'm just saying generally, it seems like, you know, I don't know, ninth round Montgomery seems sort of aggressive to me.
53:56I don't know. Maybe I'm off base here. I don't think so.
54:00I think it's the issue is that we've seen Houston have an effective bell cow running back with Joe mixing and excuse
54:07me, after the Cowboys game, the first like 12 weeks of season in 2024, he was the RB one overall and points per game.
54:15And then it just kind of, it just kind of tapers off and he just, they let everybody down.
54:21So there's proof of concept that they can figure it out.
54:24They invested in the first round pick, uh, in the offensive line and keep Rutledge the guard out of Georgia.
54:31So it could get better. I think there's a little bit of redraft brands.
54:35Like how many more seasons can we plan on having David Montgomery?
54:39If you're trying to go, if you're trying to go secure the bag.
54:44Yeah. David Montgomery is a great piece. But again, the problem is that you just, you're only his value only is held
54:51within three to four teams, if that in a league.
54:54And so you can't value him the way that you would value a guy like Cam Scatterbow or someone else, even though
55:01they might be similar points per game wise this year, if David Montgomery is, you know, the bell cow.
55:07So, yeah, I, I don't, I think that being 19 spots behind consensus, the crowdsource consensus feels about right.
55:14Because I think we're all thinking about it. Like, man, I'm getting, if I get two years of solid high end RB
55:21to play from David Montgomery, I'm ecstatic. If I get more than that, then I'm over the moon.
55:27So that's just kind of the way I would look at it.
55:30Hey, this is just a little teaser for the rebuilders players.
55:34We want on a rebuild. I really like Jaden Higgins.
55:37And a big part of that is for the fact that redraft brain and redraft sentiment was going to happen in 2026.
55:44The Texans have told us what they want, bringing in David Montgomery.
55:48The offense is going to run through him plenty.
55:51And you're going to get a lot of good touchdown run out because Nick Chubb couldn't quite do what he did back in the day.
55:59Woody Marks is more 20 to 20s. And David Montgomery is going to get the lion's share, ironically, in Texas.
56:06And to me, it's going to provide a ripple effect for the entirety of the Texans offense to make them longer term
56:13buys where Montgomery is a feature because what runs well, a running back and a defense in a DFS setup.
56:20What's going to run out perfectly for this competitive team in the Texans to complement their defense?
56:25A strong run game. You want a finite number of plays for the opposition to be able to attack offensively.
56:32So what is better than shutting down an offense and then David Montgomery just running through their throats?
56:38So that's where the signal is. It's a 2026 play on Montgomery.
56:41There's a diversion between redraft and dynasty. And I just talked with my hands a lot.
56:47Hey, I love it, though. We've been a big money show for a long time.
56:52And again, I think he's like, look, if you're if you're a competitor and you're a competing team, like I'll trade you.
56:59I'll trade a two all day for David Montgomery and put him in my lineup and be fine with it.
57:05But I don't know. Just long term David Montgomery outcome.
57:09I don't really know. Like you said, Jeff, I think you said that.
57:13Well, Jeremiah, too, like, you know, we you're we get too caught up in beauty contests sometimes.
57:18And that's this is kind of about value. This show mainly this particular show that we're doing right now.
57:24So that's kind of where that basis lies. Right.
57:27If you if you're if you're in a certain spot, then Montgomery's fine.
57:32The startup is hard to determine whether or not you're in that spot.
57:36You could you think you could think you might be.
57:39But like it's going to be hard to gain get value back from.
57:43Like you said, you're really limiting trade partners like startup wise, ninth round Montgomery if things don't go well for you this year.
57:51And then just generally, I it feels like, you know, I don't I don't feel like I need to do adjust any
57:58of these ranks, I guess, to say of how I came through on on looking at the discrepancies between us and where
58:05crowdsource kind of stands in this overvalued episode. So anything else before we wrap this one up?
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