0:00Alright, here we are, the Fantasy Empire Christopher Columbus Edition, led by our main explorer Chris Vaccaro, Nelson Sousa and the Ty
0:07Johnson fan club hero himself, Matt Modica. Boys, how we doing this morning?
0:12Doing great, Spit. Good to have you in the driver's seat again for us here.
0:17Got the call up from the minors. Did you like my artwork, Chris?
0:21I called up Rembrandt and Van Gogh for that.
0:24It was really good. You sent it to me yesterday, Paul, and I was impressed.
0:30Are you doing these things or do you have somebody that you...
0:34It is me. It is me. I am an AI expert at this point.
0:38Jack of many trades, I tell you. I'm tired and I'm punchy.
0:43Yeah, there's a lot of tired... I won't call these guys cranky for my pregame show warm-up with them.
0:49I mean, Chris going right to the hat. Nelson seems to be well caffeinated with his Boxer Joes.
0:55Modica had a long night. We all had a long night, Paul.
0:59Nelson's finally smiling after five weeks. Every league I was in with Nelson, he's like 185 plus this week.
1:06So, monster week for you, right, Nelson? It was.
1:09It was. It was a good week. Yeah, and that's why he's smiling.
1:13The lights are shining into the basement. Everything is beautiful.
1:17I came out of the basement. My eyes were like really sore.
1:21I had to adjust to the light. Yeah. If I had to describe fantasy football after five weeks, weeks one, three, and
1:28five, I was like Dan Aykroyd in Trading Places at the end when he's like, looking good, Billy Ray.
1:35You know, you got the champagne glass. And weeks two and four, I'm like Dan Aykroyd in Trading Places when he's the drunken Santa ready to kill everyone.
1:44I thought Paul was walking off. Let me ask you guys this.
1:48I thought Paul was leaving the show. I thought he was playing the last of the empire.
1:54I was like, hold on, I'm in the long show.
1:57Is it Friday or June? Where am I? Paul was in a hurry to go live.
2:03I wanted to ask you guys backstage, but I'm going to ask it now live.
2:08Okay. So, it's the Christopher Columbus edition. Okay. Okay.
2:11So, I'm surrounded by three Italians. Okay. And I'm Portuguese.
2:14So, my question that I wanted to debate backstage was, who's the better explorer back in the day?
2:21Christopher Columbus or Vasco da Gama? On this show, Christopher Columbus is a hero.
2:25Even though he did get lost. He's the most famous guy who got lost.
2:30That's what I'm saying. Look at it. The guy really went to the wrong fucking place, but he became famous and we're
2:38going to say all four of them. So, I'm all about Christopher Columbus.
2:42Yeah. I'll make it a three-person sweep there, Nelson.
2:45All right, boys. Let's go observations. Chris, Nelson, Matt.
2:48I mean, there's so much that went on, right?
2:51Week five. I mean, we're in the second quarter or quadrant as Matt likes to mention.
2:57You know, the storylines. You know, it's kind of, the one thing I'll just start with, and Nelson, to you on that,
3:04you know, on your Patriots and Drake May, right?
3:07Like, you know, the tale of two seasons already, right?
3:11Right? Some guys and teams that you look at dead are coming back.
3:15Some teams that are guys you love are dead.
3:18But this is a fluid week-to-week situation, right, from my observation.
3:22But, boys, let's start going. Round the horn. Yeah.
3:25Paul, I mean, right off the top, first off, unbelievable game last night.
3:29Really weird game. The first half was death. Josh Allen had, like, zero fantasy points.
3:34Wasn't throwing. Had, like, two completions. The game looked like it was going to be a complete bust and a sick under.
3:42Then, all of a sudden, a shootout breaks out.
3:45We get a 37-34 overtime game where everyone and their mother puts up great numbers except our guy, Dalton Kincaid, who's now officially on the milk carton.
3:54We'll get into him. We'll get into him a little bit.
3:58But, you know, real crazy week, as usual. And to your point, Paul, the Puka owners and the Drake May owners, after
4:05three weeks, were sitting in 12th place, probably. Those are the ones that are, you know, flying up the standings right now.
4:13How crazy a couple weeks is that, you know, everybody anointed the Josh Allen owners and teams, the league winner and the team to beat.
4:21And now, you know, after the first half last night, people might have been saying, you know what, I'd rather have Drake May than Josh Allen.
4:30Stick on Drake May real quick. I mean, I tweeted out, like, two weeks ago, you know, and I mentioned on the
4:38show, I think you've got to stay with your studs, and especially when the matchups are in their favor.
4:44And you saw that schedule that just opened up those next nine games.
4:48It's like fantasy gold and, what, 35.8, 51.2 in NFFC scoring the last two weeks.
4:54Yeah, I wonder where he is. I haven't looked, obviously, this morning, but after five weeks, where's Drake May ranked at quarterback?
5:01I mean, obviously, the first three weeks were a disaster, but when you bang out a 36 and a 51 back-to-back, I
5:09bet you he's in a top eight QB right now.
5:12No, he's not. No, he's down. Yeah, he's 13th.
5:15All right. So he's right there, and in a couple weeks, he'll probably be in that QB six or seven range.
5:22So he's still behind your first round pick, Kirk Cousins, just so you know.
5:27Yes, Captain Kirk. Yes, Captain Kirk. Listen, I know we got a lot of observations after another crazy week.
5:33Here's one that stood out to me. You might think I'm crazy, but it's another guy that we left dead after a few weeks.
5:42And am I echoing here? Yeah. I don't know how.
5:45It's probably Spatari's mic or something like that. Yeah, yeah.
5:48Let's blame it on Spatari. Spatari's got the show on in the background listening.
5:53Yeah, that's what he is. He's already listening to himself.
5:57I'm letting AI listen, Nelson, so I can learn something.
6:00It's all about it. That's like the definition of a narcissist.
6:04He's like, he can't be lying. He's like, you know what?
6:07Let me put it on in the background. Let me listen to myself.
6:12Yeah, I want to hear myself talk. Yeah. So we left Marshawn Lloyd for dead.
6:17It was one of the worst picks in the top hundred.
6:21And maybe I'm just seeing things that I'm hopeful for.
6:24But watching that game the other day, he ran pretty well.
6:28I know he only ran for like 35 yards, but he ran with power.
6:33He scored the touchdown. It's more about what's falling beside him.
6:36This Josh Jacobs issue, I don't think is getting resolved anytime soon where people thought it would be a couple weeks ago.
6:44They lose Chris Brooks, who was running decently and a guy in the mix.
6:49It's down to Lloyd and Caleb Johnson, who I have zero faith in.
6:53And this Packers offense is definitely one of those offenses you want pieces in.
6:58So, yeah, their offensive line is trash. But my observation is I think Marshawn Lloyd might be finding his way into fantasy
7:05lineups again, going into week six and beyond. What do you guys think about that?
7:10What about Peter Strung? I mean, he got like, what, 10 touches.
7:14He got one less touch than I think Lloyd.
7:18And Lloyd got the two touchdowns. But again, it was, you know, that running game, that whole running back thing.
7:24Lloyd is the favorite as of now, but I still think it's a disaster, though they do get the Cowboys this week.
7:32Yeah, I mean, they're trying to figure things out, right?
7:35Obviously, it hasn't been good, the running game. Their offensive line is really banged up.
7:40So they're having a hard time due to that also.
7:44And then you got to remember, Lloyd hasn't played in like five years or like the last two years, right?
7:51Lloyd hasn't played. So you got to give the kid a break a little bit where he's trying to acclimate himself.
7:58Steve's just going to double down. He's like Dan Williamson with Ollie Gordon.
8:02He's going to keep doubling down on Drake May.
8:05Nelson, I won't post his other comment so I don't advertise some other podcast.
8:10He was right, though. He did say that on Friday about Marshawn Lloyd.
8:14You got to give him props on that. Guys, what about the – I guess this is kind of Resurrection Tuesday.
8:21Aaron Jones has 71 fantasy points through the first five weeks, right?
8:26Another guy who when you drafted him, you felt like throwing up.
8:30You're like, why am I taking this guy? And he's sitting there just absolutely smashing for the Vikings.
8:36I mean, this is where we're at. Guys, what do you think about Aaron Jones right now?
8:42That was one of my observations. I'll let the other guys talk, but, you know, they go on a bye this week.
8:49And Mason is going to come back in week seven.
8:52What happens? I think as all Mason owners, we're all like, all right, we're going to finally get a running back we
9:00can use back into our lineups real soon. But now with Aaron Jones running as well as he is, I don't know
9:07how that's going to be broken up in the Minnesota backfield.
9:11I don't think they could go completely away from Aaron Jones unless they just said, hey, listen, you know, give us all you got.
9:19We're going to give you all these carries. I think he had 22 carries the other day because he's an aging vet
9:27and they just need to get him to the bye week.
9:31And then after the bye week, turn it over to Mason.
9:34That's what we all hope as Mason owners, I'm sure.
9:38Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's been very productive. Can't take that away.
9:42But, like, you can also see that, like, he's breaking down.
9:45Like, he's banged up. That it's too many touches for him.
9:49So, I do think coming off the bye that this, you know, heater that he's on is going to be coming to
9:57an end where he's going to be splitting with Mason is my guess.
10:01I mean, his performance has been admirable. I mean, it looked like he was going to leave the game early on.
10:08He got banged up. And then he has, like, what, 123 yards rushing.
10:13But I'm kind of thinking it's going to be Mason.
10:16But Aaron Jones is not going away. They'll still use him.
10:20But I am anxiously awaiting Mason into this offense.
10:23And I think so with the Vikings. What he did, though, was he covered up open wounds for a lot of us fantasy owners.
10:31Anybody that had him on the team as they're running back five or six, just drew him on the team in rounds 14, 15.
10:39You lost a number of guys. Maybe you were the Hampton owner that gave up on him a week or two ago.
10:47The Brees Hall, Travis Etienne. Anybody else that sucks right now at running back.
10:52If you were the Aaron Jones owner, you threw him in there in the last three, four weeks.
10:58And you got good games. Just the same way the Ollie Gordon guys off of Fab got him and put him in the last two weeks.
11:06He's covering up wounds until you get some guys back healthy, until guys start turning their season around.
11:13Maybe you were the Kenneth Walker Chuba owner and you put in Aaron Jones this week.
11:18You got another good game to get you through a bye week.
11:22This is, you know, that's part of the game right there.
11:26And there's not that many running backs that you could plug in that you got deep in the draft or a fab
11:33that are covering up these wounds right now. Can I comment on Joe Colton's thing?
11:38Dobbins, to me, this week was a guy that I did start for the fact that two reasons.
11:45Peyton was taking over the play calling. And I figured he was going to go back to Dobbins heavily.
11:51And they were facing the Chargers. So, I don't get it.
11:55RJ Harvey's been their best, probably their best player overall.
11:58The most explosive player. And he just like vanished.
12:01What happened to him this week? Oh my God.
12:04Unbelievable. They forgot all about Harvey. Everybody was starting to get high on Harvey again.
12:09Not me. Not the Bronco fan. No. He is the, you know, he's only reception dependent, right?
12:15He's that, he's the guy, man, he's the Ty Johnson of the Broncos.
12:20In the sense that if he's not catching the ball, you know, he's not going to run him.
12:26Guys, here's another guy I want to mention. You know, watching last night, we all took elephant shits on everybody who drafted him.
12:34Veteran versus cool rookie. Devontae Adams is wide receiver six in fantasy right now.
12:38This guy goes back and he's absolutely just killing it, right?
12:42Another one where he's receiver four on some of your teams.
12:46And Nelson, if you had some of your heavy four wide dress, he might be receiver five on some of your, you
12:53know, the amount of volume that you do. Guys, talk to me about Devontae Adams and what he's doing this year.
13:00Guys, I'll just jump in real quick with the Devontae Adams thing.
13:05Okay. I have Devontae Adams on a pretty good primetime team as my wide receiver four pole.
13:10Watching last night, it's been an unbelievable first five weeks.
13:14Okay. I'll get, I'll say that. But remember, Puka wasn't there for most of it.
13:19Okay. Devontae Adams, if I, if I was in a trading league, it would be a sell high right now.
13:26Okay. This guy is going to, he, he's not on the field as much.
13:30Okay. Watching that game last night, every other play, it's like, where is Devontae?
13:35He's not even in the game. Okay. They get inside the red zone.
13:40He lucks out with two touchdown passes. Granted, it's part of the game.
13:44At the end of the day, he's got 22 fantasy points and all of us Adams owners are healthy, are happy.
13:51But there's going to be weeks now where he scores five points and disappears.
13:56Okay. This is the Puka show. I've never seen an offense on a quarterback and wide receiver, a quarterback lock in on
14:03a wide receiver, every single play like the Rams do with Stafford to Puka.
14:08Adams, it's been a great five week run, but there's dark days ahead.
14:13That's all I'm going to say. Oh, I mean, I have zero Adams and, you know, right now after five weeks, it
14:20doesn't look good, but credit to him on that last drive, that last catch.
14:25He went over 50 yards and I hit my 14 parlay and I was very happy.
14:30There you go. The Matt Modica, I hit another five player parlay.
14:34I don't even do, I haven't even been doing parlays.
14:38I just do the receiving things, but, you know.
14:41That Rams offense, guys, though, you know, because I hear you on Adams.
14:45I get it. But, man, I just think that offense, that last drive, as bad as the Bills' defense is, I mean, they're down seven points.
14:54They moved the ball like they were playing flag football against a high school girls team, right?
15:00It was literally, they even lined up and ran the ball in, didn't even use their timeout.
15:06I mean, I just feel like that offense is so good that they can just, I think everyone eats there.
15:12I mean, you guys have mentioned him. We've mentioned him.
15:16Kyron Williams, I mean, not to be said again, the guy's just, you know, everyone who didn't love him is kicking themselves in the ass.
15:24But I still think Devontae has value just because I think that offense, Chris, is going to score a lot.
15:31I don't think they're slowing down at all. And by the way, they butchered that end of the game.
15:38Even though they got in the end zone with four seconds left with running Kyron, it was almost as bad as the Washington end of game.
15:46They debacle. It was a complete debacle. They had a timeout.
15:50The play ended with 19 seconds. They could have called a timeout, but first and goal on the two-yard line.
15:57You run four plays out of the shotgun if need be.
16:01They almost completely ruined the whole game. I've actually been thinking this to myself.
16:06Obviously, the Rams is a high-powered offense. I actually think that they would be putting up video game numbers right now if
16:13they ran the hurry-up all game long. So their two-minute offense and how they execute is, like, the best I've seen in, like, years on the offense.
16:22If they just kept the foot on the pedal the whole time, I think that, like, that's – they're doing their best
16:30work is when they're in the hurry-up. I think that would kill the quarterback, though, Nelson.
16:35I mean, he's 41 years old. I don't think he could – I don't think he could maintain that pace personally.
16:42But I hear you. We all want our offenses and teams to go no huddle, to get off more plays and everything.
16:50But they do – they can't do it because of the defense.
16:54You know, you go three and out on a no huddle and your defense is back on the field 45 seconds later.
17:01You just can't do it. But when teams go no huddle, yeah, it looks – the game looks so easy.
17:08They're like, why – you know, you're sitting at home.
17:12You're like, why don't we just go no huddle?
17:15It's easier to complete these passes. They go up and down the field.
17:19These teams are in two-minute drive offenses and they go up and down the field.
17:24But meanwhile, when they huddle and everything, the game is slow and it's shit.
17:29But they have to do it to protect their defenses.
17:32I mean, I got two comments on the Rams from last night, two takeaways.
17:37One was if you were a Terrence Ferguson owner when he went down.
17:41I mean, Higby was there to be picked up and he's been awesome.
17:46So, you know, that's just been a perfect fill.
17:49You guys get like 15 points a week. And the other thing is I'm going to go against the Greek here.
17:56Look, it hasn't been good and Kyron's been awesome.
17:59I totally bow to that. It was a terrible miss not taking the guy.
18:04But what I took away from last night was Blake Corum catching three passes is huge.
18:09Getting him involved in the passing game more. This kid's got the juice.
18:14And right now it's not a great pick, obviously.
18:17But he's somebody that I did start a lot last night.
18:21You know, with Kenneth Walker shares that were on buys and stuff.
18:25And, you know, he got you over that double-digit hump that you want for an RB2 with that flex play if you needed it.
18:33And he's in a spot where if something does happen to Kyron, I mean, this guy, he's a really good running back.
18:40So the story has not been written yet. The pick doesn't look great from a usage standpoint.
18:46But as far as if you watch the games, like Corum looks the part.
18:51Like he looks really good. So it's not from a standpoint of like he took him and the guy's a dud and
18:58he sucks or whatever and he looks bad and he's not getting usage.
19:03It's the opposite. But we expected kind of like what we saw the first two weeks, right, where he was kind of splitting a little bit with Kyron.
19:12But then Kyron got on a heater and got going.
19:16And plus, I think part of the factor too was that Puka being out, they wanted Kyron's receiving ability on the field
19:23a little more to give Stafford another option. And I was thinking, I don't know about the snap counts, but it looked
19:31like Corum played last night a little more than he had the last two weeks.
19:36Definitely most. He also got his first. And you wonder if that's a plan.
19:41And you wonder if that's a plan for the Rams here is, yeah, Kyron was on a heater so much.
19:47So, you know, McVay's got, you know, the pedigree to go with the hot hand, but maybe give the veteran a lot
19:55more early in the season and then slowly, you know, bring him back a little bit while Corum ramps up midseason because
20:02like Nelson said, it's not that it's a bad pick or he looks bad.
20:07He looks really good when he gets the ball, you know?
20:11So they have that other weapon to bring into the offense and give more to as you get into the season.
20:18So I'd be excited if I had Corum still on my roster and was in somewhat decent shape.
20:24I think there'll see a lot of him, Chris, this week.
20:28They're playing the vaunted Arizona Cardinals. They may score 50 this week after what happened last night.
20:34I just think part of the Kyron production was a byproduct of Puka being out.
20:39They wanted the receiving back in the game. And then you're going to start seeing where Corum's going to be.
20:46The snaps are going to go up for Corum here the next few weeks because Kyron's a small dude.
20:52He's physical, but he's a smaller dude. So you don't want him taking a huge pounding, especially when your backup running back looks great.
21:00Yeah. And Paul, to your point, good point there.
21:03Listen, you play a Monday night overtime game. The veteran's going to get less of the carries this Sunday in Arizona.
21:10They'll probably be beating the shit out of this team.
21:14This is a Corum game where you can play him as a solid RB2, I think, versus Arizona this upcoming week.
21:21He'll get enough piece of the pie where he can produce for sure.
21:25While we're on the topic, real quick, I want to give a couple shout-outs.
21:30First off, we're giving too much air time to the Greek already.
21:34So enough with the Greek. Let him go back to reading his dinosaur books like he was doing yesterday.
21:41But I do want to give a shout-out to him and Nelson.
21:45I believe they're leading the FFWC main event after five weeks.
21:48So shout-out to the team of Nelson and the Greek.
21:52Yeah, I was hoping someone passed me, actually, last night.
21:55So I wouldn't be in first. Okay. I wouldn't be in first in week six.
22:00Okay. I also want to give a major shout-out to our guy Frankie.
22:05Frankie Momola. We all know how much he's battling still.
22:08He's fighting for the last six months, leading the online championship after five weeks.
22:13Nice. So shout-out to our boy Frankie. The group chat is on fire.
22:17A couple leaders in overalls. That's not to go without our guy here, Spateri, who was leading the prime for about a
22:25week with his moment in the sun. I asked Frank if he was more happy about leading the OC or Igor Shester could have blown his knee out.
22:34No. And he'd laugh, so I think I know which one it was.
22:39Yeah, exactly. Anyway, those two shout-outs. Go ahead. Go ahead, Paul.
22:43To Duke's comment down there, kickers do matter. Schrader's been like a cheat code.
22:47But what about Will Reichert of the Vikings? You can't leave that guy out of it.
22:53Matt, I say it every week, so I didn't want to say it again this week with the kickers.
22:59But, man, oh, man, is it a kicker season already?
23:03How about Jason Myers? 25 points. And I saw the Guilds stat.
23:07Did you see the Guilds tweet that I retweeted yesterday?
23:10Jason Myers, week five, 25.5 fantasy points. Colston Loveland through five weeks, 24 fantasy points.
23:15Oh, my God. You can't even make it up.
23:18The pain. Unbelievable. Your top kicker has 83 points.
23:21The Colts, 74 out of the Vikings. The Texans kicker had a nice week.
23:26Our boy. Always. He's a beast. You got – I think it looks just at least 10 to 15 kickers over 50 points.
23:34And you know who isn't really killing it right now?
23:37Aubrey, who we are. It's been terrible. Aubrey's been – It's actually – this is going to sound crazy, but I actually think Aubrey might be a drop.
23:47And here's my – I love it. Yeah. Here we go.
23:51I'm being serious. I'm not trying to, you know, rage bait here.
23:55My thought process with kickers and how I do it is I want a kicker on a team that's favored going into the game.
24:03And – or at least going to be a competitive game.
24:07The Cowboys defense is so bad that they're always playing from behind and playing catch-up that he just doesn't – he doesn't
24:14kick enough field goals is the problem. Yeah. Yeah.
24:17That's my opinion on it. I will disagree with you on that one, Nelson.
24:22He's definitely not droppable, but I understand your point.
24:25You know? Well, Nelson, in terms of attempts for a kicker, you know, he's got 12, which is like fourth.
24:32Right? So he's still getting attempts. I'm just looking here.
24:35I mean, so he's getting the attempts, but he's also missed three.
24:39Right? So think about it. He hits three field goals, which he usually does.
24:44That's, you know, nine points. He's vaulted right up into the top three.
24:48So, yeah, he's also – So he missed three, so he's in the Meeves category.
24:54He's scared. He's getting cut, right? When you miss 50 yarders indoors like that multiple times, you're off my radar.
25:00You got to go. You got to go. You're out.
25:04Nelson, any other observations from you about this week and anything else going on?
25:08I think one of the observations is that Brock Bowers and Trey McBride, wherever they were being drafted, they're worth it.
25:16They're worth it. So, you know, second round, Bowers, a little later, McBride, or third round, McBride in the NFFC.
25:22But, like, Brock Bowers and McBride in the FFPC, like, well worth it.
25:27Like, those guys look like difference makers. I mean – McBride and Michael Wilson got huge bump-ups as well.
25:33I mean, even though Marvin Harrison was trash and they shipped him out of town, I mean, all the targets are going to be consolidated to those two.
25:43Kendrick Bourne will get a little bit as well.
25:46But, man, it's a dream situation right now for all you Michael Wilson owners.
25:51You've got to be loving life. Yeah, Chris, I'm a big Michael Wilson owner.
25:55However, I'm a little worried. Yes. I'm worried about, number one, I know the team sucks.
26:01They're always behind. But the team is really bad.
26:04I think Brissette's going to get moved. Right? That team is shit.
26:08They're done. Somebody either will need him to start or back up.
26:12They're elevating – what's his name? The kid from Miami, the quarterback, which – yeah, he looked good in preseason, guys.
26:19But we know if he's facing a team, you know, down the season that's in the playoff hunt, they worry me a
26:27little bit just for the potential instability of quarterback.
26:30No, but see, for me, it's different. I think losing Marv hurts them because he was the sacrificial X and was opening up a lot.
26:38He's slow as shit. That was the problem. Why was he the X?
26:43Yeah, but whatever. He was taken away. I'm not saying I'm worried.
26:47I should change that. I want to monitor going forward.
26:50Like, you know, I mean, look, Trey McBroad, that catch he made.
26:54Who the hell was that guy, Teagan, who caught two touchdowns?
26:58I've never heard of a guy before in my life.
27:01Listen, I look at that last couple weeks and just see the target share.
27:06Michael Wilson had 17 targets a couple weeks ago.
27:09You're going to see a lot of those games where him and McBride are in double-digit targets every week.
27:16The defense is garbage as well, and it's high-scoring games.
27:19But to Nelson's point, you know, if you drafted Bowers and McBride, you were the smart ones.
27:25A lot of us were fading the early tight end.
27:28But I'm going to throw in two other names that I think can compete with them and are going to be all
27:36the league winners that you need at tight end.
27:39Tyler Warren is who we thought and hoped Loveland would be.
27:43He was a better pick around later than Loveland.
27:46And if you went down the board, if you remember that cluster F of tight ends that everybody was loving, the Kraft,
27:53Pitts, Fannin, and then the guy that should be mentioned with the Tyler Warrens of the world, Sam Laporte is having a
28:01really great season in this Lions offense. So if you're not the Bowers and McBride owner this year, you could get bailed
28:08out by being the Warren or Laporte owner. I thought you were going to mention Likely.
28:14Isaiah Likely has 23 targets in the last two games.
28:17He has three games of double-digit targets this season.
28:20I did not forget him. I did not forget him.
28:23I will say this. I don't think Likely will be consistent.
28:27Okay? We saw a couple short weeks of Likely.
28:30Yes, he had the two monster weeks. And it's fresh in our heads and it's easy for us as fantasy analysts and
28:38everything to come off of this week and go, oh my God, he gave 32 points.
28:43He's a monster. Next week could be a four or five in this offense with Likely.
28:49Sure, right now he's been very good and a good pick.
28:52He's tight end two. Yeah, no. He's tight end two off of two monster weeks though, Nelson, right?
28:58I mean, did he have a third good week?
29:02I'm trying to think. It's been – who's got his numbers up?
29:06Anybody? I got him. Week one was a monster.
29:09Week five was a monster. Two big weeks. Two terrible weeks.
29:12One so-so week. There you go. Exactly. So it feels like Laporte has been really solid every week.
29:19Tyler Warren, I can't say that as well. I guess Tyler Warren, I know, had one or two short weeks, small weeks as well.
29:27Well, Chris, if you look at guys, if you look at tight end in general, I mean, Nelson, you're right.
29:34Those two are – I mean, they're game changers.
29:37But I thought this year, and it looks like it's been valid, tight end's deep, right?
29:42You got at least 15 tight ends over 50 points.
29:45There's a lot of guys producing. Matt was talking about Pat Friermuth, right, all summer.
29:51Got – you know, Gistecki, who no one likes, is producing.
29:54Jawan Johnson, my boy, I thought, stepped up once.
29:57You know, there was the injuries to Tyson in New Orleans.
30:01I mean, Kincaid started out like a house of fire.
30:04Now it's been terrible. But tight end, if you waited – and, you know, Nelson, you did a lot of double tap in rounds 9 and 10, right?
30:14Likely Goddard. Goddard's back now. Goddard's going to produce.
30:17If Goddard's on the field, he will produce in that offense.
30:21So I think tight end in general, right, you got your studs, but you also have a lot of depth.
30:28So most teams should have a good tight end.
30:31I'm just saying that like with McBride and Bowers, there was a lot of landmines where they went.
30:37So like in the NFFC, I've never been a big proponent of drafting early tight ends.
30:42So I didn't really like fade – like I kind of semi-faded those guys because I was always looking for like a
30:50wide receiver, especially like McBride in the third round.
30:53I thought wide receiver was automatic. I needed to take in the NFFC.
30:57And I'm just saying that like some of the receivers that I took there are not exactly doing all that well.
31:04Give me the production from Trey McBride. Week in, week out, the dude's just – he's going to get the targets on
31:12that shitty team where they're always playing from behind.
31:15One guy we haven't mentioned who I think is one of the guys at the tight end position I would want to
31:22have rest of season, especially after Sunday's injury to Debo, is George Kittle.
31:27Week one in Australia, you know, he was coming off the thing, played with – I don't know how many snaps.
31:34This week he only had 7.4, but he had an illness before the game or whatever.
31:39I don't know what he was dealing with, but he's got 18, 26, 17, and they're running out of receivers.
31:46Just, I mean, that alone – They don't have any left.
31:50They don't have any left. Yeah. He is primed for a – if he can stay on the field and defeat the substation.
31:58Think about this. Two of the coldest names on the board that nobody really wanted to draft were Mike Evans and George Kittle, right?
32:06In draft season, the last – I was in on Evans.
32:10You were on Evans, Matt? Yes. Remember when you guys were cheering and I was like, what are you doing?
32:16Remember our little text? I'm like, I got Evans.
32:20All right. Well, listen, you were in the minority then.
32:23That was going to Newport that day, Chris, and we wished bad things on Mike Evans.
32:28He was going right out to the yard. Listen, things have broke unbelievably perfect for the Evans and Kittle owners in the last – since the season started.
32:38Stripling goes down. Debo comes in. Debo goes down.
32:41Who's the other guy that went – oh, obviously, Pearsall, you know, went down.
32:46People were drafting all season long saying, hey, there's too many mouths to feed in the 49ers offense.
32:52Evans was hurt. Kittle might not come back to week five after IR.
32:56And now look up. It's week six and, you know, they're the only two healthy and everyone else is dead.
33:03So crazy run out for the 49ers, Kittle and Evans.
33:06Matt, any other – What are some suggestions you'd like to make?
33:11Oh, well, running backs I think we got to talk a little about.
33:15Does Ashton Gentry have a plantar fasciitis issue? That's one thing that's scaring the hell out of me.
33:21And the Cleveland backfield. Jenkins is in a boot.
33:24Sanders hurt his hip. I know they're going to possibly open up Samson's window.
33:29What's going on there? I mean – Is Jim Brown available or is he on IR still?
33:35Well, you know, Cleveland's an interesting team. You know, we kid about them, but they've been pretty successful.
33:41Guys, one team I want to touch on quickly is Atlanta, right?
33:45You talk about an offense that – talk about a tale of – and then I think we should talk about the Pats a little bit with Nelson.
33:54Let's talk about Atlanta first. I mean, you know, the first two weeks were ugly.
34:00Penix comes in. Of all people, the hero. Now he's banged up.
34:04What's your guys' take on Atlanta? Yeah. Trouble ahead now because it looks like Penix probably has some either broken ribs or fractured rib or whatever.
34:12The fact that he couldn't get back in there in overtime.
34:16Things were starting to look really up, right? You know, if you're the Drake London owner, life was good again.
34:23After the first couple weeks without Penix, Penix comes in and now all the people that took advantage of Drake London at
34:31the end of the second round falling the last couple days of draft season, they were the ones eating because they were
34:38the ones pairing him with Gibbs and Bijon and then most likely coming back at the turn and getting a Watson or
34:45Parker Washington, which is something I wanted to talk about with one of my observations.
34:51So those combinations right now were available the last few days of draft season.
34:55London now has to deal with Tua. Tua is absolute garbage.
34:59I don't want to hear anything about, oh, he could get the ball out.
35:04He's absolute garbage. And if he has to come in in a game versus the Bears where, you know, we were all
35:11looking ahead to saying, oh, this could be a really nice, fun game with Caleb coming back hopefully this week as well.
35:19Now Penix is on the shelf and the offense might go right back into the gutter again.
35:25Yeah, I mean, I'm very concerned about that. Look, Tua isn't Cooper Rush.
35:29I'll say that much. I don't know how good he is.
35:33Not as good as him or not as bad as him.
35:37Do you want brain cancer or do you want stomach cancer?
35:40Which one? Yeah, I mean, shit. Yeah, no, but I think it affects the whole offense.
35:46I think Bijon gets Nick too. I don't think it's just London.
35:50I think that whole offense is going to be affected by it.
35:54So hopefully – Just some Kyle Pitts life show up.
35:57Here we are. Chris, I'm – Wow. Hey, Paul, I'm sorry.
36:01I got to stop the show because somebody wrote in the comments going after your – Yeah, I saw that.
36:08I saw that. And I think you need to respond.
36:11They call you – No, I – They catch you – Well, I think the AI put the wrong boat name on the – They caught you slipping.
36:21They caught you slipping. I love getting a history fact check on a fantasy football show.
36:26This is a new level. You know what? I'm here for it, though.
36:31I'm here for the Mayflower versus the ships that Columbus – Chris, observation.
36:35You said you want to make a couple of points on a couple of guys.
36:40Say that again? You wanted to make some observations, Chris, before we wrap up the – No, I just said it.
36:47I'm just – I was talking. You know, we had talked about, you know, the advantage of Gibbs and Bijon owners right now.
36:55And I'll throw in Chase. You know, Jamar Chase in the three holes has been a really solid pick.
37:02You know, the runout at the end of the draft season when you were getting Drake London and Chris Alave at the
37:09end of the – And Neighbors at the end of the second.
37:13You know, it's really coming perfectly and a major advantage for the people that have the Gibbs and Bijon owner.
37:20You wanted to be in the first two, if not three, spots on the draft board.
37:25And my reason is this. It's based around Christian Watson and Parker Washington.
37:30A lot of people, you know, were taking these guys right at 36, 37, 38, right in that turn.
37:36And right now it looks like an unbelievable combination.
37:39So I think that – Yeah, the time out there on that turn, on the 3-4 turn, people weren't taking Parker Washington, maybe outside of May.
37:48But Christian Watson really at that 3-4 turn a lot.
37:52They were going a little later in the fourth.
37:55And if you started with a Gibbs or Bijon, there's a chance you've got a Devonta Smith who's missed a couple of games.
38:02That third round, you could have got Ladd. You could have got Hurdy.
38:07What, if you took Devonta Smith early at 23, 24?
38:10But nobody was really doing that, Matt. Devonta Smith was living in 25 to 30 range.
38:16He was going at the end of the second round a lot.
38:20You got somebody on the show that made a living of taking Christian Watson at the turn in 36, 37.
38:27Mike Santos was taking Parker Washington, Christian Watson on the turn.
38:30That was late. That was that last week. That was that last week.
38:35Well, I'm not talking about the guys that were drafting these main events in July, Matt.
38:40I'm talking – No, I'm just talking about the entire draft season.
38:44For the most part of draft season. Parker Washington weren't getting out of the top 38.
38:50And these are the teams that – Parker Washington is not going top 36 for most – I was getting on our text read.
38:58There goes Modica drafting Parker Washington again early. That was not happening.
39:02So, I mean, that happened later on. You just said my point again.
39:06You were drafting Parker Washington early in June, July.
39:09And where was he going in main events the last two weeks of the season?
39:15The last week, I'm saying. I'm just making the point.
39:18So, exactly what I'm saying. For the B. John and Gibbs owners, Parker Washington was a turn pick.
39:24And these are the winning combinations along with Christian Watson.
39:28And what about the people when Waddle fell that were taking Waddle there in the third?
39:33That were taking Ladd? That were taking Birding? His name is not going to be spoken on any show of ours.
39:40Those are three guys that are hurting you, you know?
39:44I just looked at guys September 1st primetime that I did.
39:47I got Parker Washington in the fourth round with the sixth pick.
39:51So, he was bouncing. Yeah, he was middle of the fourth round.
39:55He was bouncing around, I think. Neighbors. You remember, guys, as the drafts moved on.
40:01Guys were moving. Neighbors, when he got healthy, right?
40:04He started replacing things. I agree with Chris. Devontae Smith moved way up.
40:08Devontae Smith was going in that second. End of that second round turn quite often.
40:13Right? People were grabbing him. Sometimes he'd go in the first pick, you know, the third.
40:19But he found himself, you know, in that second round for a big part of the summer.
40:24But I think guys have benefited tremendously from, you know, Watson was a fourth round pick, right?
40:30I rarely saw Watson, right, going in the third round.
40:34But, man, when you were waiting on those guys and you started to suck them up, they're looking like real league winners now.
40:41Nelson, speaking of early picks, that I think, you know, it's time to start talking about him.
40:47Because I think his return is imminent, along with your New England Patriots return to excellence.
40:53Talk to me about A.J. Brown. What's the latest on him, Nelson?
40:57What do you think of the Pats? Schedule's getting a little easier.
41:01Is A.J. coming back? I mean, his time is coming up any minute now, right?
41:06Yeah. So there have been some positive reports in the last week that he's been around the locker room, no limp, no
41:13sign of, you know, anything really wrong, that he's been, you know, walking normal.
41:18And then Vrabel on his morning show actually said yesterday that he thinks that there's a good possibility that Brown is back at practice this week.
41:27So, you know, we've got to hold our breath and see if that happens because that would be a big boost to
41:34my teams if he can get back on the field.
41:38And they have Nelson coming up, the Jets, Bears, Dolphins, Green Bay, and Detroit.
41:43As Chris likes to call it, it's a fantasy carnival.
41:46Yeah, that's nice. I love that. And hold on, just to prove that I'm not crazy, from September 1st to the 13th of July.
41:54Now we're back at practice. Yeah, we're on to like the next topic.
41:59And Watson went 4-9, so I'm not nuts. I thought I transitioned us from that to the New York Super.
42:05Nelson, in the New York Super, did you double tap Watson and Parker Washington at the turn?
42:11I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm just showing you.
42:15Watson and somebody. What did it say? No, it was Watson.
42:18What did we do? It was Gibbs. Gibbs. Did you take what's his name?
42:23J-Mo, right? J-Mo. We stacked Detroit. So it was Goff, Gibbs, J-Mo with Watson.
42:28That's what it was. All right. Anyway, listen, A.J.
42:31Brown, you know, in my mind, I thought he was done until like weeks eight or nine.
42:37But if you guys all get A.J. Brown back, even not this week, but the following week, it's going to be an absolute score.
42:45Things happened real quick these last five, first five weeks.
42:48If you're in good shape and you get A.J.
42:51Brown back. But it was a pretty bad high ankle sprain and wide receivers tend to struggle throughout the rest of the
42:59season, even when they come back with decreased speed and everything.
43:03Let's see how he, you know, performs once he's back.
43:06You know, he could be a little bit of a shell of himself.
43:10But one night, Chris, had had the high ankle sprain.
43:14Yeah, I know. Nelson, I don't want to put this in your Cheerios.
43:18One guy who I thought was moving well on Thursday night coming off that high ankle sprain was Abuka.
43:25Right. Abuka started again. You know, he was catching a lot of short passes, but he looked like he's kind of back to at least physically 100 percent.
43:34Right. And Baker comes back. He could be good.
43:37So, you know, maybe because it's been one. He got opening day.
43:41It's four weeks already. So I would say maybe the first week slow for Brown, but I think, you know, if he's
43:49the way that Pats are starting to wake up, you know, he's got to be somebody.
43:54If you're stashing him, you know, he's going to make a big difference on a lot of teams.
44:00The question is, is Baker going to be good?
44:03That offense is outside of what Bucky did versus the Cowboys.
44:07It's been one of the biggest disappointments in fantasy so far.
44:11F Dallas, by the way, that was just absolutely pathetic on Thursday night.
44:15And that C.D. Lamb game was really painful to eat, to start the week off, you know, coming off of a 40 point game for C.D.
44:24Lamb to get the two point burger to eat to start the weekend.
44:29Did not feel good. What was crazy prior to that Thursday night game?
44:33After the first three weeks, they had the same amount of targets, Lamb and Pickens.
44:38And then, you know, week four happened and it was good to see Pickens.
44:43He was in a smash matchup with the cover one by Tampa, whatever the hell they play.
44:49And thankfully, he delivered. You know what team, guys, I want you to talk a little bit about that I think has tremendous fantasy impact.
44:57They've been extremely erratic the first few seasons, the first few weeks.
45:01But now our friend Caleb Williams is coming back.
45:04Talk to me about your views on the Bears, right?
45:08The Bears, I mean, Colston Loveland, I know everyone's going to curse them out.
45:12But the Bears have serious impact guys that could change.
45:16They're not doing it yet, except for Swift. Swift has been pretty good.
45:20But guys, what do you think about the Bears with Caleb coming back?
45:25You know, can't be worse than it has been these last couple weeks.
45:29You know, Tyson Badgent, you know, must have had a ski mask on when he got that contract extension.
45:36He looked absolutely terrible these last couple weeks. You know, I thought he would come in, put up some really good numbers
45:43versus a terrible Packers defense that lost two starters the week before from an already bad defense.
45:49And they couldn't do anything right. The only person you're getting stuff out of right now is DeAndre Swift, who's giving you decent numbers.
45:57It gave you a decent game again this week with 17 points.
46:01But the receivers here, just everyone's underachieving the whole year.
46:05You know, and I think it hurts even more because if you were invested in this Bears offense straight down the board,
46:12which a lot of us were me at the top of the list.
46:16I have Bears on almost every one of my teams.
46:20I was all in. It's week one. They come out.
46:23They put a 60 60 points up. They go up and down the field.
46:28Everything looks unbelievable. And then since then, it's been shit.
46:31You know, they had the Monday Niner with Case Keenum, who got Luther Burden going that one game and then right back to nothing.
46:40This week was a real disappointment. I really thought this Bears Packers game was going to be a sneaky 35 31 type
46:47game with everybody eating kind of like what we saw last night.
46:51And only one team showed up offensively and everybody else.
46:55It was another shit burger. So a couple of things with the Bears.
46:59I mean, week one, they ran for over 300 yards in in that game against Carolina.
47:04I mean, Burden has been a major disappointment outside of that Monday night performance.
47:09And Roshon Johnson to me is somebody that I'm happy that I got.
47:14I didn't get all the shares, but I got some shares because I want a Bears running back.
47:20If something is up with Kyle Menungai with his toe or his thumb or if Swift goes down, you know, we got
47:27going forward to think this offense is going to click and get better and get on track.
47:33So that's why I kept your schedule, guys. But look at the fantasy goodness.
47:38The last four weeks of fantasy season at Miami, at Buffalo, home for the Packers, home for the Lions.
47:44Let me get my magnifying glass out here. You're blind.
47:48Go get your eyes checked, you know. I'm reading it to you, though.
47:52But look at that schedule. I brought up the Bears because I know right now everyone's not thinking much about them, but
48:00they have a serious amount of impact potentially if they're healthy with this schedule.
48:04From week 11 on, especially like, you know. Yeah.
48:07Yeah. But even like the Patriots defense coming up on that Thursday night after this week, the Patriots defense is falling apart.
48:15Right. I mean, I don't know if Gonzalez will be back.
48:19He's missed two weeks now, but they're losing guys on defense.
48:22Their defense isn't anything to be scared about. Yeah, they have Seattle, but look what Seattle's defense just let up versus San Francisco.
48:30So there's not any defenses to be scared of this year.
48:34You know, there's some individual matchups with really good corners that you might be scared of.
48:39But, you know, an offense like the Bears, when you watch them and they're at full health, there's not any, you know,
48:47you can't just shut one guy down. They got weapons on the field here.
48:52Kalief Raymond got banged up late in that game the other day.
48:56I wonder if he misses some time. And that'll even help out, you know, the Burden, the Dunze and Loveland owners a little bit more.
49:04But, yeah, I'm excited to get Caleb back. And hopefully this offense starts taking off.
49:09I think it could be, Paul, like you said, from week six or seven on, you know, back to what we hopefully
49:17saw a sneak peek of in week one. Yeah, we need to get rid of this Kalief Raymond experience for this first time.
49:25He's crammed back down to earth, though, too. You know, it's just annoying having him out there and he gets a couple,
49:32you know, targets away from these other guys. Are we done with Colson Loveland?
49:37Done meaning, like, are we, like, conceding that, like, he's just going to be a bust this year?
49:43I'm going to throw it right back at you now, Nelson.
49:47What does it matter if you're the Colson Loveland owner that we took him in round four?
49:52Okay. Have you started benching him already? Have you considered it?
49:56I haven't considered it to this point, but after this past week, now I have to start considering it because I just don't, I don't see it.
50:05Because I was on this show just a couple of weeks ago and I said to you guys that you can't, like,
50:13you got to weather the storm and you got to ride the guy because as soon as he starts putting up his
50:20big games and he's on the bench, it's kind of like the whipsaw effect where it's a double whammy.
50:27Like, you took the bagels, you know, with him in your starting lineup and now you're going to bench him and he's going to put up big games.
50:36But I just, I'm not seeing the glimmer of, I'm not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
50:43So that brought, you know, we talked about a pre-show real quick and you kind of run into these situations where certain guys are not benchable.
50:52And, and we said it, I said it with all my Dalton Kincaid shares.
50:57You have Dalton Kincaid a lot as well. We all do, I'm sure.
51:01I feel like Loveland is basically the same guy, even though one was drafted in the fourth round, one was drafted in the eighth round.
51:10You know, you know what they could potentially give any week.
51:13They could be 25 fantasy points from either one of these guys.
51:18We've ate some frigging, you know, twos and ones and fours from these guys.
51:22Do you have the balls to now go put them on the bench and, you know, sit there?
51:28It's going to hurt even worse when they have the seven for 90 and two touchdown game on your bench after eating the twos and the threes.
51:38So there's certain players that are just unbenchable, especially at the tight end position.
51:42But what do you do if you're the Loveland and Kincaid owners, unless you back them up with a likely or a
51:50Goddard, or maybe you pick a Jawan Johnson in the right situation or a couple other of these guys.
51:56Let me give you an example. So to Paul's point earlier in the show, he said tight end is deep this year, right?
52:04So you have Colson Loveland and Pat Friermuth on your team.
52:08Does Patty enter the conversation at any point now?
52:11No. For me, I can't do it. And Friermuth's outscoring him each week.
52:15I would. See, I think Loveland's benchable until he gets there.
52:19I mean, if you got options, but you can't obviously cut the guy.
52:24But if you have options. No, no, no. I'm not talking about cutting.
52:28With the quarterbacks that they've had, right? I mean, Bajan, he is awful.
52:32I mean, he's nowhere near the NFL field again.
52:35God forbid they have to put him back out there.
52:39But Loveland, with Caleb coming back, again, because he's the type of guy where, you know, three weeks ago he's dead.
52:46And then all of a sudden this guy's putting up numbers.
52:50But until that flips, I would start Friermuth ahead of him.
52:53I would start Juwan Johnson ahead of him. I'm starting guys that are producing versus waiting.
52:59Again, if Caleb was the quarterback, Chris, he's in for me.
53:03These backup quarterbacks to me on the bench until the offense is right.
53:07That's fair. But if Caleb's starting this weekend, I'm starting Loveland.
53:11I'm going to have a hard time not playing him, like Chris said.
53:15I don't want to go. Colston Loveland could be the Drake May of tight ends.
53:20Yeah, absolutely. He only has Eli Raritan ahead of him right now in the stats.
53:25So he's got a big Raritan ahead of him.
53:29I don't know. Raritan's coming on. He did. What is it, 5 for 57?
53:33Guys, who would have thought we're here October 13th.
53:36And Colston Loveland is behind stalwarts like Greg Dolchich, Noah Fant, Cade Otten.
53:41And of course, your Denver Broncos, Evan Ingram, even has more points.
53:45No, it's ugly. That's what I'm saying. I don't see the glimmer of hope with him.
53:50It's now five weeks in, and you've got scrubs outscoring him.
53:54My glimmer of hope would be the way the end of season last year when Caleb was quarterback and all those targets and receptions he got.
54:03So if Caleb comes back, I think I got to start him.
54:07I just don't want to be that guy that stood there, got punched in the face repeatedly, and never swung back when
54:14this guy puts up a 30-point game. You know, so.
54:18These are the decisions that make or break fantasy seasons.
54:21When do you get off the bus on Loveland?
54:24Are you going to sit there and eat seven straight bad weeks of Loveland giving you a three at your tight end position?
54:32My lineups this week, I go down. You know, we all put up some decent points on a lot of our teams.
54:40I look at my tight end position, and it's Kincaid everywhere, Loveland everywhere, Fannin everywhere.
54:45Every team, other than all my Tyler Warren shares, thank God.
54:48But other than that, it was a four-point or less, and it's tough to go through life like that with these guys.
54:56Even, you know, like I said, Fannin, he had that one monster week.
55:00Fannin hasn't given shit in the last couple weeks either.
55:04And then there was week one, I believe, or two where he was like one or two points.
55:10So you've gotten three out of five bad Fannin games.
55:13So when do you jump ship on a lot of these guys and go to a better option?
55:19If I could sign up for a tight end that just gives me eight, nine, ten points each week, like a Goddard,
55:27I think I might take it and move on.
55:30You know, I can't eat these Kincaid and Loveland games each week now.
55:34Yeah, because that one point from Fannin, like just putting up his stats here.
55:39I mean, woof. You were quick with that, Spatari.
55:42I like it. You know what? I'll tell you.
55:45Well, you trash me, and then you give me a comment.
55:49So I've got to build you up to break you down, Spatari.
55:53I know I'm not supposed to mention the VUX name again, but he's got to stop saying Patty.
55:59It's Muth. I don't know who the hell when he says Patty.
56:03I'm thinking of like Patty Ice or something. It's Muth.
56:07Anybody that's doing well. Anybody that's doing well is his guy.
56:10But I want to ask you a question about that ties into drafting and veterans.
56:16We've talked a lot about Aaron Jones, Devontae Adams.
56:19And I personally am not a big drafter of rookies.
56:22I think rookies in the NFL, there are the exceptions, but they don't produce more often than not.
56:28This year, right? We've got Jeremiah Love, who's been all over the place, right?
56:33The receivers. Denzel Boston's probably the best rookie. Guys, when you look at the season now, you're five weeks in.
56:40People are jumping on these rookies. There's Carnell Tate, who would probably be pretty good if he didn't play on the worst offense in the NFL, right?
56:49But what do you guys, when you look at the rookies and your drafting next year, I mean, Jeremiah Smith might be the exception, right?
56:57But are you guys still saying, you know what, a good rookie I'm going to go after?
57:03Because I feel time and time again, veterans outproduced these rookies in fantasy football.
57:08Depends on the rookie. It depends on the rookie.
57:11Matt, that's the answer, Matt. Yeah, listen, like I have no problem drafting rookies at a college.
57:17I follow college pretty well. I know the player pool real well when the players come out.
57:23This year, I have never drafted less of rookies, first-year guys at any of the positions than I did this year.
57:30It was actually one of my strategies was to completely fade the whole rookie class.
57:35You know, I might have a share of Tate here.
57:38Tate was a fifth-rounder. I have one share of Tate over 50 drafts.
57:43You know, I have no Malachi Lemon. I have no anybody else.
57:47So the running backs, I thought, sucked the rookie class.
57:50So nothing across the board, really. But it depends on the year, Paul, you know?
57:55That's fair. Yeah, I just, there's something that I look back, I try to think of back draft times.
58:02You know, people pushing Jadarian Price way up. Jeremiah Love, right?
58:05I mean, Matt, you love Jeremiah Love. I mean, he's got his job.
58:10I still like Jeremiah Love. I love him for this season.
58:14I've said it the whole summer, and I'll keep saying it.
58:17I think he's the second-half league winner. And if you get into the playoffs with this kid, look, Arizona is not abandoning this kid.
58:26I know he made those comments. Longest season of his life.
58:29He's young. This guy's got a ton of talent.
58:32I agree with, like I said, this was a horrible rookie class.
58:36But Love was one of the gems out of it.
58:40And like I said, they drafted him third overall.
58:43He's going to play. Is he a gem, Joe?
58:46I don't know if he's a gem after this week.
58:49He had a bad week. I love how everything changes.
58:53This is a week-to-week game. Two weeks ago, it looked like he was going to lose.
58:58That's what I'm saying. I don't give up my priors easily.
59:02And I think the kid's got the talent. He's flashed here and there.
59:06We've seen it. I've seen him in college. I thought he was actually a really – he was one of the guys that should have went top ten.
59:16Maybe he should have went third because Arizona needed so much else.
59:20And Reese was probably a great pick for them.
59:23But they made the commitment. The guy's guaranteed $50 million.
59:26He's going to get plenty of playing time. It's still the first month.
59:31Again, like after five weeks, whether you're – you know, you could be doing great.
59:36Talk to me after week 10. Like I said, things change in a hurry.
59:41There were teams last week. I was like, oh, I was feeling down and depressed.
59:46Now I'm feeling great. Let's see what week six.
59:49That's been the problem is getting the back-to-back weeks going.
59:52So hopefully this even week is a good one.
59:55Talk about uneven offenses that make a difference in fantasy, guys.
59:59New Orleans Saints have been a, you know, a King Dakar rollercoaster ride this year, right?
60:05You're watching them one week. You think you're sitting on gold.
60:08And then, I mean, Minnesota absolutely beat the doors off them defensively this week.
60:13They struggled against Atlanta. Remember, that was another surprise.
60:16You guys, what are you kind of thinking about?
60:19I know ETN is out for a bit. He should be back.
60:23And by the way, they need him. Calvin Kamara is not an every down back.
60:28Certainly Kendra Miller is no every down back. What are you guys thinking about the Saints right now?
60:34Because there's a lot of talent to help your fantasy teams in New Orleans.
60:39I don't know. Tyler Shutt didn't look all that great.
60:43His zero points didn't help. Oh, he didn't point, Nelson.
60:46Does it do it for you on a week?
60:49Wait. Wait, you guys want to laugh. Tyler Shutt.
60:52You're saying this. Like, we were talking about the Saints just a week ago.
60:57Like, you know, look at this. Like a fantasy bonanza with all these guys.
61:02And then he didn't look so hot. I mean, it's never good seeing your quarterback have two fingers taped up.
61:08And look, I know the Vikings defense is very good.
61:12I still think they're like a fraud 5-0 team.
61:15They really haven't played anybody. So, you know, but it's concerning because it's happened multiple weeks.
61:20He did get the garbage time late on Monday night, but they were dominated on Monday night.
61:26I mean, they have fantasy playoffs. They got Arizona and Atlanta, two of the three games.
61:32I mean, you want – this is, again, this is a team you want thriving if you have shares of Saint players
61:39because they're sitting on, you know, indoor games against awful defenses.
61:43Well, Paul, believe that you mentioned that, the three teams that you want, Arizona, Atlanta, and the Saints, they, like, play each other those last three weeks.
61:52You know, those three teams have awesome playoff schedules.
61:55It's clear that his left hand, his non-throwing hand, is pretty broke.
61:59He's come back down to earth. We were all excited about the Saints offense through the first couple weeks, but obviously the hand is affecting him.
62:08The offensive line's falling apart and had some injuries on it.
62:12Their run game is nonexistent, and it doesn't look like they're getting any help anytime soon because the kid Tyson looks like he's weeks and weeks away.
62:21Teams are going to just start focusing in on Alave and taking him away.
62:26He had his first off game this past week.
62:29The Saints are in trouble, and, you know, to make you guys laugh, I have a Lamar-Tyler Shuck team that I thought
62:36was set up pretty well at the quarterback position, and I wanted to get out of the Tyler Shuck start so badly
62:44that once Lamar was ruled off that I went to the wire, and I picked up my guy Tyson Badgent to play
62:51versus the Packers offense thinking I was a genius, and I traded the Tyler Shuck zero that I nailed for the Tyson Badgent one.
62:59So shout out to me. That's how you play the game.
63:03That's how you play the game. What is the status on ETN?
63:07Is he going back after the short-term IR? Nothing.
63:10I haven't heard anything yet, Matt, on him. You know, a hamstring injury, obviously very worrisome, right?
63:16But he was dinged up going into the season, and then obviously had that bad injury, and then they haven't said it.
63:24Guys, we talked about this guy before. It's worth mentioning.
63:27What is the outcome for this fine NFC superstar?
63:30Do you think there's any life in Mr. Harrison Jr.
63:33now that he's on the vaunted Texans offense? Chris, yay or nay?
63:37Oh, absolutely not. I don't care. I don't want to hear, oh, he played with C.J.
63:43Stroud back in college, and change of scenery is going to do him good.
63:48Hand up. I'm wrong on Harrison as a player.
63:51Jared, he's done. He's toast. Good night. Matt? The first Noel is what I'll say.
63:56Jalen Noel season, baby. Make him second in targets.
63:59Hopefully Marv is running, you know, the sacrificial X.
64:02They get to play Nico full-time Z. That's the way it helps the offense, but how is this team trading second-round picks
64:09when they need an offensive lineman desperately? I think anybody.
64:13And, you know, I don't get it. Nelson, I recall from all of our drafting this summer, I don't recall this guy on your team often.
64:22What's your take on Harrison? I ended up, he suckered me in.
64:26He trapped me up on a couple of teams where he went late, and I was like, oh, okay, I'll take a little Marvin Harrison or whatever.
64:35But for the most part, I was drafting, I was actually drafting Michael Wilson over Harrison.
64:40But my thought is that I don't understand what the Texans are doing because this is like a head scratcher.
64:47How do you give up a second-round pick for a receiver where you have Nico, you've got – you traded for booty already.
64:55You have Hutchinson, who they love. They love playing this kid.
64:59Noel or Noel. How do you pronounce it? Is it Noel?
65:03It's Noel, right, I think? It probably is. I just love saying Noel.
65:07I'm a big kid. I'm a big kid. Modique is a Christmas guy.
65:11Yeah, yeah, I'm a Christmas guy too. We're saying Noel.
65:15So they got this kid coming on who I think is talented.
65:19And it's like, okay, I didn't think that was like really like a huge need on the team.
65:25So why this trade? Why give up the second-round pick?
65:28So I just think that you have a few knuckleheads over there in Houston, and they might muck this up.
65:35I don't know what they're going to do. But in terms of fantasy value for Harrison, I don't see – it can't get worse.
65:43The dude was seeing like two targets a game in Arizona.
65:47It can't get worse, okay? But I don't know how much better it can be in Houston.
65:53I mean, it's true what you're saying, Nelson. Like they just did this for Keyshawn Butte.
65:58And then you go back to the well and bring in Harrison.
66:02I don't understand what they're doing. I honestly don't.
66:05But fantasy-wise, I don't see how he makes starting lineups.
66:09Matter of fact – Thank you. I think he's droppable.
66:12I honestly think you'll see some people drop him this week.
66:16Mm-hmm. Well, one thing I will say, since we mentioned the Texans, I have my confession.
66:21I thought Montgomery was going to be the man.
66:25They're one of the worst picks in fantasy. I'm actually happy because one of my primes that I have him on, I
66:32have Woody Marks, and I can just play Woody Marks.
66:35I was like, Cowboys, I've got to give Monty one more chance.
66:39Tennessee Titans, I'm going to do it. Done. He's hurt anyway, but good riddance.
66:44Another absolute landmine in that fourth, fifth round range this year.
66:48Montgomery's total bust pick. I was wrong on him.
66:51I actually thought that he was going to do well, and I thought it was just going to be in terms of
66:59volume, and he was going to be the goal linebacker.
67:02So I was like, you know what? I've never been a huge fan of Montgomery anyways, right?
67:08But I was like, all right, I can see it.
67:11I can see where it's not pretty, but he finds a way to get in the end zone, picks up some yards or whatever.
67:19Just dead wrong on it. Yeah, I never drafted the guy.
67:23I was never a Monty guy. A lot of people in this industry were high on Montgomery.
67:29Like Nelson said, though, they went out, traded a fourth-round pick, targeted this guy.
67:34I figured just on the volume, the goal line touches especially.
67:37And Woody Marks, I don't think Woody Marks is a good runner.
67:41He's looked like he's improved a bit. But I don't understand.
67:45They still don't throw Woody Marks the ball. Like throw the – that's where I think Woody Marks is good.
67:52But they like refuse to throw the ball to the running back.
67:56Well, the arrow's pointing up on Woody Marks. That's another running back as you enter week six here that you could put into your starting lineup.
68:05That's going to be in a good spot right there.
68:08But I think we're remorse to say if you go – if we go this show without mentioning and talking about Jalen
68:16Warren and what he's doing, we're doing everyone a disservice right now.
68:20I don't know where Jalen Warren is ranked at running back right now for the season.
68:25But we need Rico Dowdle's toe to, you know, stay hurt here.
68:29You know, Jalen Warren's having a hell of a run right here.
68:33He's in a great spot. I think – what's his name?
68:37Why am I forgetting Pittsburgh's coach there? McCarthy. McCarthy came out yesterday and said that basically, you know, it's Jalen Warren's, you know, show.
68:45And he'll be the lead back still even when Rico comes back.
68:49But we don't want anything as Jalen Warren owners affecting what is happening right now.
68:55Jalen Warren is saving a lot of fantasy teams, especially where he was on the board.
69:00He's probably the best pick in the top 100 right now, you know, for his – where he was going on the board for value-wise, I'm saying.
69:09I mean, no argument there. But what's kind of crazy is last year Warren got usurped by like Kenneth Gainwell, kind of took his job.
69:18We all – I mean, I've been drafting Warren a lot every year.
69:22This year I kind of cooled off because they brought in Rico and I figured McCarthy loved him and all the beats at the end were saying.
69:31But this year he's basically doing what Kenneth, you know, Gainwell did to Rico because I thought Rico was going to be.
69:39And, you know, for the shares that I have going on, I'm grateful.
69:43I just wish I had more. Yeah, and the other guy above him, Chris, in the rankings who's not as – a
69:51lot of people didn't like, who's having a great year, is Javante Williams.
69:55Yet again, he's delivering – he wasn't picked in the 100th, but people didn't like him, ignored him.
70:01And, man, that guy just produces every year on that offense.
70:05I still don't like him, but he gets the volume and he gets the touchdowns.
70:10He gets the touchdowns. I'm kidding. It's so frustrating watching Alex.
70:14Yeah, every week he falls into the end zone.
70:17It's so frustrating not having any shares of Javante, but every week he's putting up points.
70:22And it's just a good pick for the people that have him.
70:26I've got an observation. Just curious, not trying to put you on the spot, but an honest question.
70:33Yeah. I know part of your plan was if you had started three wide receivers in the fourth round, you were targeting running back.
70:41Yeah. Javante wasn't part of that plan? Not at all, Nelson.
70:44It was Brees all one. It was Swift two.
70:48ETN three. I wanted my running back rooms when I was wide receiver heavy to start off with those three guys.
70:55And they all came off the board after Javante.
70:58So, you know, I don't think I took any of them over Javante like in a particular draft because I didn't need to.
71:06But Javante was a complete fade for me. So, hand up on that one.
71:10And then the final one. Who's jumped up to like third round?
71:14Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was really out of the picture for me.
71:19Not even. Yep. One guy who's becoming like the Ferrari version, I guess, the high-priced version of Javante is Christian McCaffrey.
71:26Like, the touchdowns have been saving him. And that's been like Javante does.
71:30But the stat lines haven't been really, especially the last two weeks in the passing game, that seems to be going away.
71:38I guess now at all, you know, with Debo Dunn, that gives him a big boost.
71:43But from what I've noticed, he's been really touchdown dependent.
71:47And that's what's been saving him. Yeah. I think it made sense this year to fade him a little bit because I
71:54saw it last year that he just wasn't as efficient as he used to be.
71:59So, I felt like he was running out of gas.
72:03But, again, like he's a focal point of the offense.
72:06And if he's going to, you know, sneak in in the end zone and now, you know, you got pass catch, they're all banged up and stuff.
72:15So, he's going to start catching a few passes.
72:18That's, you know, he gets it done. Think about this, guys.
72:22Going back to the point of how the Gibbs and Bijon owners are just lapping the field and the major advantage at running back that these teams have.
72:32If you go to the other side of the board, you know, CMC doesn't look great.
72:37He's getting the touchdowns, like Matty said. So, saving each week.
72:41Gente's getting you by. Hampton's a complete bust. We haven't talked about Chase Brown and his – I don't know if you're happy.
72:49You're not happy with his season so far. Don't look in your rearview mirror.
72:53That's a major PR. Exactly. They were like 50-50 split this past week out of nowhere.
72:59I apologize for interrupting, but real quick. Can we go back to – this is how the NFL is and how fantasy
73:06is with week-to-week things change and we change our opinions.
73:10Do you remember on this show how we were having the debate that running back, running back was like the way to go this year?
73:18And I'm telling you right now, like if you look at it, imagine drafting like Chase Brown, Hampton, Saquon Barkley, like – A-chan.
73:26A-chan. Like you're crying right now if you have those two guys and you passed up, you know, receivers or whatever.
73:33Or you didn't hit on Walker. Like Walker was the key guy.
73:37He was the gem of the class, right? You know, once you got past James Cook and Jonathan Taylor and like McCaffrey, like he was the gem.
73:46And like everybody else is just whatever. Nelson, thank you for bringing that point up.
73:52It's an excellent point. I've tried debunking that myth because all I kept hearing about after week one is if you didn't
73:59go running back, running back, you're done. You don't have a chance.
74:03And outside of week one where the top ten, seven were running backs, it's been wide receivers that have dominated the top ten.
74:11Week four or five might have been five-five. It might have been even.
74:15But that's the one week. So that's something that everybody jumps on and it's a narrative-driven groupthink kind of thing.
74:22And it was proven false pretty quickly. If you went Jefferson, CD, Olave, even like, listen, Pickens showed life.
74:29But Pickens has been bad, you know, to start the year.
74:32But like Drake London, you know, London fell in drafts.
74:36But like if you like London, you know, with Pennix, like Pennix unlocked London.
74:41That was the key to that. And then like Malik Neighbors, you know, is the other guy that like I was saying
74:48that like I think he's going to get off to a slow start.
74:52You know, we kind of have to be patient.
74:56And now the dude looks like a monster. So if you went and you like if you figured out one running back
75:03to take and then took a receiver or you took Walker in the second round and like CD or Jefferson in the
75:10first round, you're much better off than without avoiding those landmines of like Hampton and Saquon Barkley.
75:16All of them. Like Chase Brown now. Like, yeah, all those.
75:20But Nelson, look at it. I mean, look, you know, besides Bijan and Gibbs.
75:25OK, Chase is having a really good season. Three out of five really good weeks.
75:30Now you add in Puka is is a monster, which I want to get back to him.
75:36JSN is, you know, a monster. Aman Ra's having a good year.
75:40That's the top six. All hits pretty much. Then you get past that.
75:44And it was James Cook and Jonathan Taylor who started coming off the board for the most part the last couple of
75:52weeks of the draft season in that seven, eight, nine range.
75:55Right. And then it would be like Lamb and Justin Jefferson.
75:59So, like, you know, you get to, like, pick eight or nine and you were OK.
76:05Sure. You know, Lamb's been great other than this past week.
76:08Jefferson's been banged up but gave you good numbers.
76:11That nine through 12 spot was all running backs.
76:14OK, and every one of them, unless you were the Ken Walker team, is bombing right now.
76:20That was like you are totally screwed because then not only did you land on all these landmines, the only wide receiver
76:28that was going in that nine through 17 range pretty much was A.J.
76:32Brown. And he's been a bomb because of injury.
76:35Right. You know, Alave would sneak in there sometimes, neighbors sometimes.
76:39And then in the third round, it was Waddle and Devonta Smith that were usually the top two receivers leading off the third round turn.
76:47And that's been a disaster. So my point is this, you know, and Matt's point, you know, all these running backs were bad picks right now.
76:56It's looking like the front of the board is going to dominate.
77:00The top six is going to dominate the bottom six of drafts.
77:04We need to touch on round three, how I was a big proponent of it going all yellow and stuff.
77:11But you look at the last two weeks, it was Rashi Rice, Flowers, major hit.
77:16Waddle, Wilson, good, you know, very good pick. McConkie, then you got Abuka in there.
77:21You got Burden, Higgins. Those are, you know, that's at least half of that have really kind of hurt you.
77:28A lot of misses. That has been Xavier. Yeah, no, but I doubt.
77:33Here's the thing. So in that third round, the question then becomes, all right, so if you were taking running back, Derek
77:40Henry, if he fell into the third round, was a home run, right?
77:45But outside of that, and then like in the fourth round, you had Kyron and Swift have been solid and Javante Williams.
77:52Those are the guys. The, like, Brees Hall, Travis Etienne, Scadaboo.
77:56Love, like, I know, like, Love's been inconsistent. Like, Jenty's getting, he's getting the production, but like, you can tell, like, he's
78:03hurt, he's banged up and stuff like that. So it's like, I don't know.
78:08Like, all I'm saying is that, like, I didn't think after, like, week one or week two, when we were talking about,
78:16oh, running back, running back is the way to go.
78:19I didn't believe that that was the case at all.
78:22But at the same time, like, there's plenty of landmines at wide receiver that if you took those wide receivers in the
78:30first three rounds, you could be not sitting pretty right now.
78:34Yeah. So it's kind of like you had to, like, if you're, if you're having, like, a really good season right now, you threaded the needle.
78:42Yeah. In a sense, where you hit on the right guys, like, if, if you- And there's not many of them, Nelson.
78:50That's what I'm saying. That's why you threaded the needle, you know, to, to get that accomplished because- It's very condensed, you know?
78:58It is. It is. I told Paul yesterday, I was telling Paul, we would say, I said, there's like 12 really good fantasy players right now.
79:07You know, you know, you want to be the, the, the, the Gibbs, Bijon, Derrick Henry, Ken Walker owners, you know, receivers,
79:14the big guys with, you know, a mix of London and Alave and a Zay Flowers.
79:20Like, you know, the, the fifth through seventh rounds were a disaster.
79:24You didn't get much after that. Tight end is, is, you know, Bowers and McBride and, you know, Tyler Warren and Laporte.
79:31There's not that many guys. His quarterback is all over the map right now.
79:36There's just not that many. Jaden Daniels is actually probably per price.
79:40The Jaden Daniels, based on price, might be the best quarterback pick of the- But I think, guys, when you look at
79:47boards, when you look at the boards, Chris, a couple of things have proven true.
79:53Waiting for quarterback was the move because you could, you're sitting on Love and Purdy and rounds 12, 13.
79:59It depends though, Paul. I don't believe that. I was, I was believing that draft season.
80:04What are the stats? These guys are scoring a massive amount of points every week.
80:10Okay. They don't need to get a quarterback. If you waited on and, and, and, and you took, um, the guy on the chargers, he's, he's a bust.
80:19Let's go, let's go through the guys. I mean, the Broncos, horrible.
80:23Round 13. Horrible. Round 13 of the diamond that Chris and I did.
80:28Shuck, Stafford, Love. CJ Stroud has close to 120 fantasy points.
80:31My point is, you can wait on quarterback, double tap, and build the depth.
80:36I'll make another observation. After round 11, there's no smash wide receivers that have been selected.
80:42Unless you want to make the case that Devon Vele, who's been good and Denzel Boston.
80:47So, you know, you're waiting on a, to me is you got to balance running back and receiver in the first eight
80:54rounds because some are only going to miss. And you need to have both.
80:59If you go too heavy one way or the other, you're not going to make up for those two premium positions later in the draft.
81:08Sure. I mean, the golf pick is great. The Jaden Daniels one helped me, but there's a lot of these guys that missed the lead.
81:16If you wait in and you took Baker and you took, uh, Knicks, you're, you're in a world of hurt there.
81:23Uh, Jalen hurts. I kept hearing how he was 10th round.
81:27You know, how is this guy going in the 10th round?
81:31You know, Jalen hurts hasn't really been good. It depends on what you do.
81:36You know, Washington, Christian Watson owners. And there's other one other receiver that, uh, was in that range.
81:42I'm forgetting. That's been really, really good. You paired them up with, you know, the, the right combination in the first couple of runs.
81:50And then you hit on a golf purdy love as your quarterback.
81:54That's what I see the most successful teams as being, but doesn't mean that the Josh Allen owner isn't loving life right now.
82:02The Lamar Jackson, other than this past week when he had a sit is, is doing well.
82:08Trevor Lawrence. Uh, okay. You know, so it is, it's pick and choose.
82:12But you know, the, the, the most successful people's I think are the ones that hit on these receivers, the combination in the first three, four rounds.
82:21And then paired them with a Javante, Kyron, the running back, Derek Henry.
82:26The guys that were kind of cold running back names.
82:29Got Bucky or Jalen Warren. Warren. And then, and then yes, with Jalen Warren.
82:34Um, so you could pick and choose the, the, the right running back names.
82:39And, you know, God forbid you're the Gibbs or Bijan owner.
82:42And you landed any of these other running backs, Javante, Kyron, Jalen Warren, would it Derek?
82:48And some combination of that. You're killing everybody. I said, I had primetime leagues where the guy in first place is 180
82:55points ahead of me in first place. And then you look at their team and it's these names with a purdy golf love, you know?
83:04Yeah. The thing too, though, uh, I will say Matt is if, if you missed on Herbert and Bo Nix and guys
83:11like that, that like have not been good, you could have corrected it.
83:16Uh, up until this point, you could have picked up a Bryce young, uh, Kirk cousins.
83:21Uh, uh, a Brissette to street Rogers, even Nelson Aaron, Aaron Rogers streaming, uh, went Winston now's on look, you know, looks
83:29like he's, you know, he's got it going and stuff like that.
83:33So you could have corrected the quarterback, uh, this year.
83:36I agree. You could have corrected it, but probably in the last week or so, of course, I mean, I think at
83:44some point you got to think Bo Nix is going to be better than this.
83:49Baker, you know, had some great matchups and he just.
83:52Yeah. When did you jump ship? Matt's back. Basically what you said, when did you jump ship and decide, Hey, I'm going to Kirk cousins or James.
84:01Aaron Rogers. Who's got Rogers. Like you didn't have the balls to do that in week two or three.
84:08Like you might've did it and jump ship off of Nix and, and these other guys, uh, you know, after four weeks ago, two weeks ago.
84:17Cause I was getting nervous with Drake may. And I had seen enough of that.
84:22That really backfired. Right? No, no, no. But I'm saying backing them up, making sure I have insurance.
84:28But like, so like Drake may, I was at the point where I was like, all right, I'm, I'm going to pick
84:35up and stream a guy, um, rather than play them.
84:39But like Bo Nix and Herbert two weeks ago, I was already starting.
84:43I was getting worried about these guys. So you could have picked up any of those quarterbacks and, and had, so like,
84:51if I had a Herbert, like Bo Nix team, I have a third quarterback on there.
84:56I've been sorry today. I've been starting to build, you know, Chris, we talk about quarterback rooms and some of my better teams.
85:04I'm like, I'd rather have three quarterbacks than some, you know, shot in the dark running back.
85:10And, you know, listen, my best team in the prime has Josh Allen.
85:14But I think also guys, if we're, if you're a volume drafter like us, you're going to have a splattering across your portfolio.
85:22That's just smart drafting. But if you're looking at it from a pure purist perspective, waiting on quarterback, it's there.
85:29The numbers are there. You don't need to take one early.
85:32It's proven over and over again. Now, of course you're going to hit and miss guys.
85:38That's your hindsight's 2020, right? I love everybody goes on and says, I wish, I wish nobody, nobody has a crystal ball.
85:45Nelson, you said it a lot this summer. Oh, by the way, a lot of these guys are going to bust no shit, right?
85:53These guys bust all the time. But when you're looking at patterns, you're looking at probabilities and statistics, waiting on quarterback, waiting
86:01on tight end, as good as Bowers and McBride are, you got guys that are producing numbers if you waited on them, right?
86:09And that's not the first season it's happened. It's not the second season it's happened.
86:14It's the, you know, multiple times this has happened.
86:17Again, just observation I make when I look back and say, yeah, you know, crystal ball, notwithstanding, the value is there on
86:24these positions if you wait a little bit. Can we go back?
86:29Yeah, Matt. Can we go back to one of the observations I made earlier?
86:33Because we kind of brushed over it. And it was a problem for me on Sunday because I was pissed when I
86:41heard Gentry was active because I wanted him to get the rest.
86:45I have some, you know, I have Mike Washington.
86:48It seemed like this guy needed a break or like a little breather to get healthy.
86:53So, like, this weekend coming up, I'm really getting concerned about Gentry when I'm hearing plantar fasciitis and stuff combined with that ankle.
87:01And it's versus the Bills. Now, you know, you can be put in that situation again.
87:07And I just found that I obviously started Gentry.
87:10I'm like, you know, I'm going to stop my stud.
87:13But it's a position. How concerned are we? Well, in terms of what, Matt?
87:18In terms of whether you're going to play Gentry or not?
87:22If Gentry barely practices this week and then gets a Friday practice in, I'm going to start him.
87:28I just don't want him to. You got to play him.
87:31I just don't want him to. I don't want him to be active is what I'm trying to say.
87:38Yeah, but you know what? You know what's funny?
87:41You're probably the guy that's saying that because you have Mike Washington on the bench.
87:46And guess what? Washington barely played. It was Dylan Lobby.
87:49So that's an even bigger problem because you're probably saying, all right, let Gentry sit out a couple of weeks, get healthy,
87:57and I can get an actual RB2 in there in Washington.
88:01And that didn't happen. So that's the real problem for the people that have Washington sitting on their benches.
88:07It's not as easy as, okay, I'm going to just slip in Washington.
88:12Will Shipley vibes. Run him out there 10 times and he'll be out for the season.
88:17No, that's excellent because Lobby was in there. I'm seeing him get touchdowns.
88:21At least the coach said Mike Washington not being involved was my fault.
88:26I had to get him involved. Yeah, probably the same coaches like Dalton Kincaid.
88:31How dare us do that? And then comes right back and does the same thing.
88:36All right, boys. Any final shots as we wrap up this colonial version of the Empire?
88:41Chris? First really bad bye week right here. You know, our lineups are already hurting with injuries and ineffectiveness.
88:48Now it's going to be fun taking Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and Jefferson and St.
88:53Brown and Goff and Gibbs out of all our lineups.
88:57Really brutal. Even all us Ollie Gordon owners that are relying on him.
89:01The Dolphins are out. And, you know, so a really bad bye week with some really good offenses and offensive pieces.
89:08And I know we're on the way out, but we didn't touch on Fab and the Will Shipley touchdown that cost all the money this past week.
89:17A real bad run out. But, you know, I still think that Ollie Gordon, when you have a running back that ascends
89:25to an RB1 spot and is going to get a lot of volume, you got to kind of go in on it and take the chance.
89:34Now, you know, I thought it was the same situation as the previous week in Fab.
89:39And I went after Shipley hard to try and, you know, for, yes, to get a running back that was going to
89:47get volume, could catch the ball out of the backfield.
89:50But to try and get through these couple weeks and get some guys like Mason and Hall and ETN back, sometimes you
89:57just got to survive a couple weeks and get a guy off the waivers and spend for it.
90:04It backfired for the Shipley owners that bought him, but it didn't for the Ollie Gordon owners.
90:09So, you know, same thing, different results. I agree 100%.
90:13Were any of us in on Ollie Gordon two weeks ago?
90:16I wasn't into the exact. I actually had him before just because I had, you know, Nelson, one of those, let me
90:24just get the backup for the, you know, for the running back.
90:28I picked them up a lot. Again, not, you know, to Chris's point, I said this on X, when you're taking on
90:36water, your teams are sucking, you got injuries, you got to go out and get guys that might produce.
90:42It's not brain surgery. No one here thinks Ollie Gordon or Will Shipley are superstars, but it is supply, demand, and on spot situations.
90:50You got to go out and spend the money to keep your teams from being out of the mix.
90:57It's that simple. Right, Chris? It's that simple. Because the alternative, Paul, Paul, because the alternative is dying and falling more behind.
91:04You got to get a Shipley or a Gordon.
91:07Put them in. Hope that you get the 15-point week.
91:11You get to the next week and figure it out then.
91:14If it backfires, sure. But what's your turn? Go put your RB7 on the bench.
91:19That gives you two points in your lineup. And you say, oh, I should have probably spent on Ollie Gordon or Will Shipley.
91:27You know? The Will Shipley thing was twofold. First off, I'm thinking I automatically thought Barkley was going to miss the next two or three weeks at minimum.
91:37At least Tank Bigsby was completely gone. If you looked at the Eagles' schedule the next three weeks, they have cupcake defenses, right?
91:45You get Carolina, Washington. You know, that's sometimes all you're trying to do is get two, three weeks of a running back
91:52that's going to give you 15 points. And then you start getting help back on the way.
91:58But if you don't go after these guys aggressively, the alternative is just dying and sitting there if you're in ninth, tenth place.
92:06What are you going to do? If I was in first or second place, then, yeah, maybe I'm not as aggressive on the wire.
92:14I can take on a couple hits over the weeks.
92:17But if you were already behind, these are the guys you had to go after.
92:22And, Nelson, to your point, yeah, I was high on Ollie Gordon in terms of going after him.
92:28I was bidding 300, 400 in every primetime league on him.
92:32It's just you guys were going 5, 600, 4, 5, 600.
92:36No, no, not me. I was – No, no.
92:39Well, I'm saying – You're saying guys in Germany.
92:42Yeah. Yes. Well, Chris, you mentioned Brees Hall, a guy that I'm in on.
92:47And I'm actually really worried because the Jets just give a Breland Allen every snap.
92:52Like, he can't catch these wide-open passes when you've got a guy like Isaiah Davis who would be really good at that role, as you've shown.
93:01I'm a little worried when Brees comes back. This is a different kind of a backfield.
93:06Fair point. Yeah, fair point. And Breland Allen's, you know, done enough these last couple weeks to not be sent to the
93:14bench or play 10% of the time. So, does Brees Hall walk back into a 80%, you know, share?
93:20Probably not. But how many other running backs are?
93:23That's the advantage right now of Kyron and Javante Williams and Derrick Henry.
93:28And, you know, right before them on the board is these guys are bell cows, you know?
93:33So, it's true. Before Brees got hurt, he wasn't seeing the lion's share of the snaps.
93:39Braylon Allen was – he was up there with splitting with him.
93:43So, that is a concern is that, you know, when Brees does come back that Braylon Allen's going to be, you know, very involved in that backfield.
93:52Yeah, and I'm sure he's going to be vulturing the touchdowns down low and everything like that.
93:58You're going to have to hope that Brees Hall plays a DeAndre Swift role, you know, catches, you know, four or five balls each week.
94:06You know, rushes for 50, 60 yards. Hopefully, he gets in the end zone, you know?
94:12He's probably going to be one of those 12 to 15 point a game running backs and not the dream scenario when
94:19you drafted him in the fourth round of hoping he's, you know, a 20 point a game running back.
94:26I will wrap up with this. King Henry, two touchdowns this week versus the Giants.
94:31That's my prediction. We saw some juice last week.
94:34He got nine or ten carries. Oh. I don't think the other guy, you know, he's still, you know, Kamaru was a great player.
94:42I love him. I'll never forget Christmas Day. I will love him until the end of time for that.
94:49From your lips to God's ears, Matt. Yeah. That's exactly where I need.
94:53We're going to see, hopefully, Kendry make us proud from a couple of weeks ago.
94:58Yeah. Nelson, any final thoughts or prayer? Matt summed it up pretty good.
95:03But, like, you know, with the bye weeks, this week it's going to be tricky.
95:08Got a lot of Jameson, Amonra, Chase Higgins. It's got some Jefferson.
95:12So, going through lineups, it's like, okay, you know, got to play like these wide receivers that you got on your bench and hope that they produce.
95:21Plus, I've got freaking teams that, you know, are a mess at running back.
95:26So, hopefully, you can keep the momentum going. Ugly lineups, I think, this week.
95:30I think, Matt, we just had a nice high-scoring week, it looked like.
95:35Probably the highest since week one. I think this will be a really low-scoring week when you take out the Bengals and Lions and Vikings offensive players.
95:44So, that. I'll leave on this. This is the last question I had on my list.
95:50You have one receiver to draft right now, rest of the season.
95:54Who do you want? Real quick, go around the horn, starting with Nelson.
95:58One wide receiver to draft. One wide receiver you would want on your team going forward.
96:03Who is it? So, outside. Anybody, any wide receiver, who do you want?
96:08You get the first pick. Oh, geez. Probably Jamar Chase or Puka.
96:12Yeah. That's just obvious, guys. But, like, if there's a guy that, like, sticks out to me that, like, I think was
96:19of value and is, like, exceeding expectations, it's Christian Watson.
96:23Okay. Matt? I mean, I want to say JSN, but I'm going to go Puka.
96:28I just think he's just a beast. Chase is awesome, too.
96:32But I don't care. Puka might get hurt. But.
96:35The dairy shake in his head. Who do you want?
96:38You guys still, with JSN, how do you not take this guy?
96:42How is the best receiver? What does Puka do when he's on the field, too?
96:47I said it. Between those two guys. I honestly am surprised.
96:51I asked the question because I'm a little surprised.
96:54I thought it would be an easy three-person sweep of Puka.
96:58After what you saw last night, I don't know how Puka is in the 1-1.
97:03Yes, he's, Chris, that guy takes on so much.
97:06I don't mean overall. I mean at wide receiver.
97:09JSN all the way. I don't care. It's a violent sport.
97:13He doesn't get hurt by anybody. This guy is a beast.
97:17He just is. It was nice of them to ignore Puka's concussion late in the game, by the way.
97:23Where was people falling down? Nobody says anything about that, though.
97:27The guy slams his head off the turf, holds his head on the ground like this, gets up in a coma.
97:34I know the guy's a moron to begin with.
97:37But he's like this. Nobody. They stopped the game because of a defensive injury.
97:42They came back from commercial. I thought they were like, okay, Puka's going to be out of the game now.
97:49Nobody called down and said, hey, let's go put Puka in the tent again.
97:53Because they go to the NFL. Even before that, how about the play where the Rams guy grabbed Dalton Kincaid 10 yards
98:01down the field as they're driving and the rest are just staring.
98:05Don't even call it penalty, but that's the NFL.
98:08Boys, it's been great filling in for Dan Schuess, hosting this Fantasy Empire.
98:12An hour and 38 minutes of great analysis. Boys, thanks for having me.
98:17Hey, Paul. Great job. You'll be getting a call up again soon.
98:21It's deer hunting season. I'm in the Arizona Fall League, Chris.
98:25I work on my fastball in the Arizona Fall League right now.
98:29If I don't get beat up by the Tacoma.
98:32The altitude kid. Dan will be going to shoot deer in his man cave in the woods, I'm sure, soon.
98:39So we'll see you shortly. All right, boys. Awesome.
98:42Everybody, thanks for watching. This will be posted up.
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98:48Ooh. Ooh. Trade just came out on my phone.
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