The FF Dynasty - Dynasty Fallers: Buy Low or Avoid? | 2026 Dynasty Fantasy Football Values - 2026 Dynasty Fantasy Football
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Oct 16, 2026
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Fri, October 16, 2026
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Adonai MitchellDe'Von AchaneJavonte WilliamsJaylen WaddleLadd McConkeyBo NixBreece HallBrock PurdyChase BrownChristian McCaffreyJadarian PriceJames CookJaylen WarrenJonathan Taylor
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Adonai Mitchell
NegativeProjection12:00
Adonai Mitchell has fallen to wide receiver 28 in rankings (one spot below Ladd McConkey at 27); the source has not seen comprehensive production from him across a full season and remains skeptical despite his talent and upside; the Buccaneers are in an interesting franchise position with a likely regime change coming, which adds uncertainty to his outlook.
Insight pageNegativeBust14:00
Mitchell's recent production does not justify premium investment; outside of the first five games of 2025, his output has been underwhelming; last week he had a rushing touchdown that inflated his 17-point fantasy total, but stripping that away he posted six catches for 38 yards; backup quarterback play (Jackson Smith-Njigba went for 170 yards with Drew Lockett) is not an excuse for a premium player to underperform, and Mitchell has not delivered premium production.
Insight pageBo Nix
NegativeProjection41:59
Bo Nix's fantasy value is being held back by poor completion percentage (71% week one, then 50%, 59%, 59% in subsequent weeks) and situational upside that isn't repeatable; he's only had 35 yards rushing on the season and is staying afloat primarily on passing touchdowns (one per game), but the source notes his completion percentage is 'pretty abysmal' and 'that is bad that's not good.' Coming into the season, the source had Bo and Brock Purdy close, but Bo has since fallen while Purdy has moved up, making the offseason question of 'Brock Purdy or Bo Nix' now 'firmly easily Brock.'
Insight pageBreece Hall
NegativeValue23:25
The source ranks Breece Hall ahead of Omar Hampton and recommends him as a target for contenders looking to sell low on Hampton. Hall is positioned as a more reliable alternative to Hampton in dynasty trade discussions.
Insight pageBrock Purdy
PositiveProjection42:30
Brock Purdy has moved up in dynasty rankings since the season started, whereas Bo Nix has fallen; the source had them close coming into the season but now clearly prefers Purdy, stating 'now it's it is firmly easily brock' when comparing the two quarterbacks.
Insight pageChase Brown
NegativeValue23:25
The source ranks Chase Brown ahead of Omar Hampton and recommends him as a target for contenders looking to sell low on Hampton. Brown is positioned as a more reliable alternative to Hampton in dynasty trade discussions.
Insight pageChristian McCaffrey
PositiveProjection23:00
The source ranks Christian McCaffrey ahead of Omar Hampton in the RB rankings, positioning him as a more valuable asset than Hampton in dynasty contexts.
Insight pageDe'Von Achane
NegativeValue20:00
Achane remains a great player and should not be sold for low-ball offers like Jaylen Warren and a first; the source emphasizes that if you own Achane, you should not panic-sell him; the Dolphins' current struggles and cap-clearing situation make this an acceptable time for Achane to sit out, and he could be part of Miami's rebuild or traded elsewhere, but his talent level warrants holding.
Insight pageNegativeInjury20:00
Achane has been traded for pennies on the dollar in some leagues despite being a great player; the source has seen disrespectful trades involving Achane, such as Chris Rodriguez, Bashal Tootin, and Trey Harris for Achane, which undervalues him significantly; while the Dolphins are bad and Achane got hurt, this is not a terrible season for him to sit out given Miami's cap-clearing and runway-building situation.
Insight pageJadarian Price
PositiveRole32:14
Jadarian Price has impressed the source with on-field movement skills, quickness, speed, and agility. However, Price needs to secure consistent volume and playing time to translate that talent into fantasy production, with potential competition from Stevenson and Henderson for carries.
Insight pageJames Cook
PositiveProjection23:00
The source ranks James Cook ahead of Omar Hampton in the RB rankings. Cook is also mentioned as a potential target in dynasty trades for rebuilders looking to acquire younger assets, with the source noting that a Chan-for-Cook trade can work for both sides in specific contexts.
Insight pageJavonte Williams
NegativeValue23:25
The source ranks Javante Williams ahead of Omar Hampton and recommends him as a target for contenders looking to sell low on Hampton. Williams is positioned as a more reliable alternative to Hampton in dynasty trade discussions.
Insight pageNegativeValue29:58
Williams is ranked below Travion Henderson in the source's personal RB rankings despite Henderson's lack of consistent production, reflecting the source's view that Williams' dynasty value has declined relative to Henderson's upside potential.
Insight pageJaylen Waddle
PositiveProjection0:23
Waddle has fallen to wide receiver 26 in rankings after struggling despite being traded to Denver and moved around the formation; his target share sits at 21% (not bad but not elite), and while he showed promise in week two with 10 targets for 138 yards, Sean Payton's return to play-calling and Bo Nix's current struggles have limited production; catch rate has dipped to 52%, below previous seasons, and a short week against Seattle's defense presents another challenge to an explosion.
Insight pageNegativeValue0:58
Waddle presents a buy-low opportunity if the price is right (something with a two involved); the source bought Waddle this past week for Josh Downs and Terrence Ferguson, viewing him as a wait-and-hold rather than a panic sell; once Denver's offense stabilizes under Payton's play-calling, Waddle should benefit as a potential wide receiver flex to bolster a lineup mid-season, though production may be up-and-down.
Insight pageJaylen Warren
NegativeValue21:05
The source mentions Jaylen Warren as a player being offered in low-ball trades for Devon Henry (specifically Henry for Warren and a first-round pick), suggesting Warren is viewed as insufficient compensation for Henry in dynasty contexts.
Insight pageJonathan Taylor
PositiveProjection23:00
The source ranks Jonathan Taylor ahead of Omar Hampton in the RB rankings, positioning him as a more valuable asset than Hampton in dynasty contexts.
Insight pageKyren Williams
PositiveProjection23:00
The source ranks Kyron Williams ahead of Omar Hampton in the RB rankings, positioning him as a more valuable asset than Hampton in dynasty contexts.
Insight pageLadd McConkey
PositiveValue6:00
McConkey presents a buy-low opportunity as the Chargers offense struggles; the source believes the talent is there and Herbert will eventually figure things out unless he retires; McConkey's rookie profile showed solid production and he remains a potential wide receiver flex, though the timeline for improvement is uncertain.
Insight pagePositiveProjection6:00
McConkey has fallen to wide receiver 27 in rankings (just below Waddle at 26) as the Chargers offense looks disjointed and mismanaged; Herbert appears broken and disconnected from offensive coordinator Giff Smith, and the team lacks a clear offensive identity despite new pieces and injuries; McConkey finished his rookie year with solid wide receiver two numbers (12-15 range) but the current ecosystem offers no signs of life, making the buy-low window likely to remain open.
Insight pageMichael Wilson
PositiveValue8:00
Michael Wilson is preferred over Ladd McConkey in a one-for-one dynasty trade; Wilson finished near top-15 last year and is doing it again this year, having built off his rookie production; Arizona extended Wilson and sent away Marvin Harrison Jr., putting their eggs in one basket and signaling trust in Wilson as the primary target; his volume should be predictable over the next 2-3 years under contract, unlike McConkey's uncertain role in a broken Chargers offense.
Insight pageTravis Etienne
PositiveUsage47:00
Travis Etienne at his best can catch plenty of passes out of the backfield for the Saints, making him part of the elite receiving weapons available to Tyler Shuck in a pass-heavy offense.
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Episode Transcript
0:00What is good? We're back and we did some risers if you haven't checked it out go check it out we're redoing
0:06the rankings over here we talked about buys and sells with those as well and where they kind of rank within position
0:13now we're gonna go to the other side do some fallers so we'll go wide receiver we'll go running back and we'll
0:19touch on a couple QBs on the way out the door.
0:23Let's jump right into it Stan. Jalen Waddle, you know, we've we've we've been so we were so excited coming in they
0:29traded for him gonna move them all around tells his wife that if he's in fantasy they should draft Waddle Sean Payton
0:35takes back over play calling here this week and and Waddle struggles again.
0:39How are we feel is this a and a generally as we walk through this this is going to be kind of
0:46talking if we should be buying low in the context of these players or if we should just figure out a one
0:52when we do have a spike let's get out so is that is that what we're doing with Waddle here like I
0:58do think there will be a chunk of the season where Waddle will be productive when that is and how long it
1:05is I don't know some of this I think results in where Bo Nix is right now and he will end the
1:11show with maybe some QB followers and you know it'll take a week or two I think before the Payton play calling
1:18kind of levels back out I don't think what web was doing a terrible job but it did seem like it was
1:24having an effect on Nick's so how are you what are we doing with Waddle right now because he's definitely a faller
1:31for for me yeah I think like he's a wait and hold I'm not panic selling Waddle in fact I bought some
1:37Waddle this last week right before the game this weekend I I sent Josh Downs and Terrence Ferguson and and maybe there
1:43was a third in there but something small right that I felt was a palatable buy here all to be said I
1:50think your buy low windows probably opened up on Jalen Waddle here however like you mentioned week two was great I'm super
1:56excited was like okay this is what we've been waiting for he's back involved but Denver's just had a tough start to
2:03their offense in general this year you mentioned the play call changing and everything going on his target share isn't incredible it's
2:0921% so it's not bad it's not amazing it's not elite Corlin Sutton finds the red zone and in the end zone
2:16the other night there and and finally shows some signs of life but I just think Denver is one of those offenses
2:22like once they get going Jalen Waddle should also get going but how long is that going to take and you got
2:28a short week here and a matchup against the Seattle Seahawks defense a little worried that Jalen Waddle is not going to
2:35have an explosion this week either and so is your eye window going to remain open on Jalen Waddle for another 10
2:41days probably but I think you got to hold him right now don't panic so yeah and you know a lot of
2:48these guys are going to kind of be you know unfortunately you can't really sell necessarily some of them may have a
2:54little bit of a window but right now Jalen Waddle's eighth on our mover rankings in the wrong direction so biggest loser
3:01right now falling down six wide receiver spots 23 spots overall and like you said I mean there is some okay volume
3:07going his way you saw that in week two we saw the 10 targets resulted in 138 yards and I do think
3:13they want to get him going want to use him as the chess piece move them all around we see him kind
3:20of doing that it's just not linking up so you know I do think if if there is a dip and the
3:26price is right throughout your league meaning you know something with a two involved in it then I think that's an okay
3:33point to kind of swoop in and try to grab some Waddle right now and see if he can be a wide
3:39receiver flex for you and really bolster a lineup here as we hit the mid part of the season because I like
3:46I said I do think there will be a resurgence where he is very good and very useful now it may be
3:52kind of up and down where you wish it was more of a best ball play but I think there I think
3:58Sean Payton is going to will this into existence one way or another yeah yeah absolutely absolutely I think they'll they'll rate
4:05the ship I a little worried about some of the drops to not that it's been super egregious but his catch rate
4:11is lower than what it's been in in previous seasons we're currently sitting at around 52% which is not fantastic but a
4:18that could be a mix of a bow next throwing a little bit of meat ball subs in there as well so
4:24yeah so that I think that's that's a big part of it and if Sean can help Nick's kind of get back
4:31on the path and and trust it and grip it and rip it I think I think we would see Waddle be
4:37the beneficiary of that but like you said tough matchup this week on a short week for Seattle so could could could
4:44remain open for another week so Waddle moving down the charts where do where do you have Waddle ranked right at the
4:50moment Stan yeah I've moved Waddle a bit since the start of the season not too drastically I try not to be
4:56too reactionary with a lot of these things but he's down at wide receiver 26 right now so I've got him just
5:03outside the top 25 and and for those you know wondering what that puts him at range wise in dynasty I got
5:09Roma dunze a one spot ahead of him Michael Wilson two spots ahead of him and then Denzel Boston and Matthew Golden
5:16just a couple of spots ahead of that so yeah I think yeah Waddle's just outside my 25 how about you I've
5:22got him at 31 so I've got T Higgins and AJ Brown ahead and then kind of right behind I got Jamison
5:29Williams would you swap Jamison Williams out for Jalen Waddle right now yeah I'd rather take Waddle I just think that ideally
5:35over time there'll be more opportunity share there and that really just comes back to exactly what we've talked about before in
5:41the realm of I love Amin Ra I love Laporta I think those are both premium assets at those positions and so
5:48just when you ever you find yourself probably being the third option there comparatively to you know Jalen Waddle who very well
5:54could still be the first option even next year right they traded premium capital form and Corlin Sutton's not exactly a spring
6:01chicken so yeah well moving on to the next player here and I think all three players we have in the faller
6:07category right now are sort of similar in the fact of that they're they're having problems in their ecosystem in their offense
6:14in their quarterback play right so Ladd McConkie next on the list of a faller right yep somebody who you know I've
6:20had a lot of faith in we kind of bought him as a rookie when he was a little underrated sold him
6:26as a as a you know kind of last year and and just had him just not selling him but had him
6:33ranked a little lower and this year probably didn't change it to too much on him but but liked the idea of
6:39kind of where the charges were going much like a lot of people did but it's failing everything's failing and and you
6:46know I can't necessarily put one finger on it but Herbert looks broken the marriage between uh the OC and Herbert and
6:52this team looks very broken just generally it just seems like a mess right now that they can't catch a break on
6:59so like we mentioned with with Waddle is there a buy low opportunity here for McConkie or is this a hey you
7:05know steer clear kind of situation yeah I mean there's definitely a buy low opportunity on lad I think a lot of
7:11people are fed up with that entire charger system just like you mentioned and I don't think we've seen any signs of
7:18life from them in the last few weeks that makes us think well okay they're just laying the building blocks and it's
7:24gonna come right they look disjointed and that's the issue right because I think if you had one thing you could do
7:31well and you know well this is going to be the offensive identity and now they just need to put it together
7:37they've got new pieces they've got injuries they've got all these things there isn't any of that these guys look mismanaged they
7:44look like they're not a team they look like they are completely on different wavelengths all to be said I think your
7:50buy windows open on lad and I personally think it's going to remain open I mean this this offense is not getting
7:56me excited at all right now yeah I do think there is there you should I think the talent of lad is
8:03there I think they'll eventually figure this out unless something crazy happens where Herbert luck's out and says hey I'm good I'm
8:09out after that you know what I mean I think I think Herbert is a good quarterback it's just it's it's just
8:16seems very broken over there right now a trade in the database right now and we talked about him a lot on
8:22the risers and he's your boy but somebody like Michael Wilson or lad McConkie here I'll go Michael Wilson and it seems
8:29reactionary to say that but not really right I mean like what you saw at a lad during his rookie year was
8:35good it was solid wide receiver two numbers and you know I he finished right out there near the top 15 12
8:41to 12 to 15 range but Michael Wilson does the same thing last year he's doing it again this year so he's
8:48built off that and by all metrics here by sending away Marvin Harrison Jr.
8:52and extending Michael Wilson you've put your eggs into one basket in Arizona saying this is the guy we trust this is
8:58the guy we want to get involved I would imagine the volume is going to be pretty predictable the next two to
9:05three years with Michael Wilson under contract I can't say the same for lad McConkie yeah that's a that's that is an
9:11actual trade in the database just a one for one swap here but to me that that you know I think if
9:18you are a this is like a my team is winning right now lad is not helping me Michael Wilson would very
9:24much help me I think it's a big value improvement from a consumer standpoint I mean if we just look at the
9:31community dynasty rankings at the ffdynastie.com and lad McConkie is all the way up at 46 still and and and dropping but
9:37I mean we look we look for a Michael Wilson and we got to scroll pretty far down to find Michael Wilson
9:43he's in the triple digits right at 105 so generally I think if you can pull that off I think it's a
9:50net positive in value if you're more on like the rebuilder side or could take on something like that but I don't
9:56disagree that you could likely have the same outcome in points scored over time for sure and you know I think the
10:03age sigma is going to be in there but I think they're about 19 months difference in age so it's not even
10:09the full two years it's not a it's not as sizable as some might think so where is lad McConkie fallen for
10:16you because I've I've got him kind of fallen down to right around like 28 30 you know I could AJ Brown
10:22T Higgins lad McConkie Jalen all in that kind of area right there and basically just with some age net lad gets
10:28the the nod with those guys but I mean obviously I think all those guys you know I'd rather put in a
10:35lineup right now we just talked about waddle but I think it's kind of the same function of the offense being poor
10:41right now AJ Brown hasn't been on the field so where's where's your ranking with with lad McConkie ahead of Michael Wilson
10:48I may I may know we're neck and neck right like you mentioned him with waddle that's where I got him waddle
10:5426 lad 27 you know like that that's it and you can make the argument either way flip flop them whatever I
11:01think I've got waddle slightly above because I just think Denver is on a quicker path of putting it together than the
11:07Chargers are and I think the Chargers might end up washing this season at some point and if that becomes the case
11:13then then I'm even less excited about what lad gives me in the immediate and I think I could just buy him
11:20this offseason all being said though I think yeah he's in that range I got him two spots below Roma Dunze and
11:26I know there'll be critics out there they're like well what is Roma Dunze showing you show me don't tell me guy
11:33but what I have seen out of Roma Dunze is a profile of a wide receiver that can demand wide receiver one
11:39target volume and can win at a catch point in a physical way that I just don't think is in lad McConkie's
11:46wheelhouse I think you know they both have roles in different offenses but that's where I have him today yeah I like
11:52it all right let's move on to egg buka uh and as I mentioned you know this is all I think the
11:58same symptom of the cause here for a lot of these receivers um and you and I've done a lot of egg
12:05buka talk seemingly over the our short stint together here um but once again Baker was not great the system seems like
12:11Zach Robinson maybe needs to be relegated back to uh the shadow realm of not having control of an offense just yet
12:18um um Baker not healthy but I book had an okay game last week so um I haven't moved egg buka a
12:24ton in the ranking yet just because of still working off of some of the positivity that we saw last year I
12:31think he's a solid player I still think he you know community wise um pretty pretty solid feeling about him generally I
12:37would be buying low if I could I still have him at um you know right around where Parker Washington is 14
12:4315 16 area what's your thoughts on egg buka here because I know you're you're probably a little lower I'm lower man
12:50this is this is where you and I like verge paths right like we're almost in sync on a lot of different
12:56things the abuka one isn't one of them and I always want a caveat it's not because I think he's a bad
13:03player it's not because I think he's not talented it's not because I don't think he has a ton of upside all
13:09those things are true I just have not seen it from him in a comprehensive fashion putting together a full season and
13:16I also think the Buccaneers are in a very interesting place franchise wise like I don't see all very strong path forward
13:22I think we're going to see a regime change there then what do you get when you have new people in the
13:28building all being said I've got a buka in that exact line there's a reason we picked these players right we had
13:35we had Jalen Waddle then we had Lyd McConkie I've got a buka one spot below lad at wide receiver 28 and
13:41I know he's outside the top 25 you can drop the hate in the comments here it's all good I'd love to
13:48see a buka succeed and I you know I hope he does you know show me a really solid product of work
13:54here that makes me want to throw him back up in that top 20 but like I said I mean for those
14:01comment warriors out there like outside of the first five games of the season of 2025 what have you seen out of
14:07a Mika a buka that makes you super super excited to be investing a significant amount of capital into him right now
14:13and you know for the people that are like what yeah he scored 17 fantasy points last week yeah he had a
14:20rushing touchdown and that was a really great play that kind of came out of nowhere but you wipe that off the
14:26screen and I'm sitting and looking at a guy that had six catches for 38 yards so like yeah the six catches
14:33is good that's better volume than we saw the previous weeks where we had two five and three but like you're not
14:39breaking the 40 yard mark yeah I know it's a it's a backup quarterback say whatever you want but I watched Jackson
14:46Smith and Jigba go for 170 yards with Drew Lockett quarterback so you know I think it's like at what stage are
14:52we going to make the backup quarterback argument versus like whatever like if you're a premium player and you're going to demand
14:58premium prices give me premium production or don't and right now a buka is don't he doesn't give you premium production yeah
15:05and like you said I mean you haven't seen it in a while we had a ridiculous start to your career and
15:11it was awesome then there was an injury don't think he was right for pretty much the rest of the season came
15:18back and you know I think he did he had the injury over the offseason as well right he had the toe
15:24I believe or the ankle I don't remember what it was but I buka was injured for the off part coming into
15:31the season right am I crazy um so yeah then I think you know you have you have Baker and this offense
15:37just not doing its thing so I think I can at least rationalize reason out some some reasons like I've seen some
15:43really good stuff the capital's really good the player that I saw in that glimpse was awesome now that could be something
15:50that we never ever see again I'm still banking that we do see that if we look at the crowdsource rankings he's
15:56certainly moving down right now he's at 37 overall wide receiver 15 like I said my ranking on him hasn't changed a
16:03ton I've got him basically right around Parker Washington Roma Dunze Luther Burden Carnell Tate around 15 there um I still have
16:09Lutheran and Rome really high I mean nothing is working on that Bears offense but I still have a ton of faith
16:16in those players um so I don't know man to me again I think I think we can diagnose the symptom here
16:22of just like the the offense being sick um and I don't I don't know that I can necessarily just turn the
16:28blind eye to all the good stuff I saw for the little bit of a buka now I think I'm probably a
16:35little high and you're probably a little low probably should meet that somewhere in the middle um but I think confidence wise
16:41from the consumer it seems to have stayed fairly strong now the Drew Locke and and and this you know those are
16:48kind of Drew Locke's been around a little while that's fair uh he's he's a much higher draft pick this is an
16:54undrafted free agent who came in here um and you know by all accounts played pretty well last week but um it
17:01certainly is not the same stylistic player as Drew Locke is as far as you know the mentality going into a game
17:07I don't think for sure but you know egg buka I'm I'm I'm pretty much buying low on laden egg buka waddle
17:13I could still be in on for the most part but I think you know generally what would be a what would
17:20a late first be what would you okay from your side what would you get out of egg buka for I'd get
17:26out of a buka for like a quote unquote tear down to print something else coming back to me right I mean
17:33like the the the thing I always say in dynasty and and this is like just a little bit of my dynasty
17:39strategy here you're like well what about a first round pick no I don't want to re-roll I've seen enough out of
17:46a buka to know he's talented and I want to keep my talented players so why would I swing on another young
17:52talented player to get one year younger that doesn't excite me right and and these days you got 25 year old prospects
17:59coming out left and right so are you getting younger just because he's a rookie you don't know that being said I
18:05think like if I was going to get out on a buka it would be for two reasons one I'm an ultimate
18:11contender and I want to tear up so I take a buka I add a piece and I'm getting to say flowers
18:18parker washington just something that's a little bit more sustainable long term and understand that one that's a great idea I don't
18:24mind that one's easy the other one is if I want production right now and I want to drop in name value
18:31that we were talking about I mean I'm going to go back to Michael Wilson like I think a lot of people
18:37still would way prefer a buka I could very much make a I can very much make a case for you that
18:44over the next two years if not three years Michael Wilson and a buka all score in a pretty similar range right
18:50and if that's the case then am I not just getting free house money on the other side of the deal if
18:56I'm you know somewhere in the middle and trying to just stay competitive here and so yeah if I could go a
19:03mika buka and you know let's throw in a Ted Hurst or you know someone maybe not on the same team but
19:09a young a Jeremy Bernard you know someone that has shown a flash of life here and I can get Michael Wilson
19:16and a future first coming back to me in 2029 for all I care I'd do that deal without hesitation I'd take
19:22Michael Wilson and a DeAndre Swift or something someone that buys me two more years of solid running back production you know
19:29if I'm in a contending window so I know those deals on paper Michael Wilson and DeAndre Swift you're talking about a
19:35wide receiver two and a running back two well yeah and a first right yeah and a first yeah yeah I mean
19:41I don't know if I want a 29 first but a first to first right like I'm gonna take what I can
19:48get I'm I'm not trading almost ever for any first that isn't either this year or next year in general that's fair
19:54um for me personally I don't I don't know that I'm as as into I I understand the theory behind what you're
20:01selling there I think I'm I think I'd be on mostly the egg buka side there but I could I could I
20:07understand where you're going with it um so let's keep it moving here let's go to the running backs um we have
20:14a chan on here as a faller but we basically just sort of threw him on here because both Stan and I
20:20have seen a chan be traded for not nearly enough of just being hurt and like I get it the dolphins are
20:26bad and people were already kind of off the a chan train kind of moving into this season and then it didn't
20:33start off great and he got hurt but like man this is still a great player I don't know what else he
20:39needs to prove to anybody now this is not and also not a terrible season to sit out for a chan as
20:46far as where the dolphins are they're they're they're clearing out some cap situation and they're kind of clearing the runway to
20:52kind of build this thing uh from the ground up here and a chan seems to be a big part of it
20:59or worst case scenario they trade him somewhere else but this is a great player and take the injury discount if it's
21:05there absolutely absolutely um so yeah like I said me and she have talked about this on a on the live stream
21:11but you and you reiterated it and like hey let's throw him on here man because I've seen some some almost like
21:18pennies on the dollar trades for h and I'm not saying that's everywhere but you should just check the league he checked
21:24the league yeah see where the h and owner's at and if you own him personally he's not somebody you need to
21:31be selling for you know jaylen warren and a first right now you know for sure for sure I mean even to
21:37the degree I like you said I I tweeted it the other day I saw this trade go down I was like
21:44this is disrespectful to devon h and but it was chris rodriguez bashal tootin and trey harris for devon h and it's
21:50like yeah tootin scoring you points each week but come on like are we suddenly dropping devon h and that low and
21:56yeah I think that's pretty reactionary I've seen a chain go for really cheap lately though so yeah send offers don't be
22:03scared right and if you know we skim through the trade database there's there's some good trades for him here that like
22:09can make some sense like a chan for breeze it's probably still too light on the h and side that happened today
22:16but if breeze is coming back and could give you something like and then we're a huge breeze pod I think breeze
22:22is excellent um but you know here's one for basically a chan for cook I get that if you're we were kind
22:29of talking about on that on the riser show with Kenny Walker if you're a competitor and and you want cook yeah
22:35you're getting a little bit older it's good for a rebuilder to get a little bit younger for a chance it works
22:41for both sides I get it but again if there's any if there's any bad shallow and he's number one in our
22:48trade database right now a chan is um as the most traded player um with 432 trades right now so um go
22:54ahead and look into that and heat check that but moving forward here we got to talk about omar on hampton yes
23:01and again I think basically at every stop of fallers we have a charger we yeah we have we had lad we
23:07have hampton and if we get to the qbs herbert is on there yeah um you know and and you know much
23:14to the same thing that I said earlier like we can kind of diagnose the symptoms that it's broken so what do
23:20we do and where is the ranking on hampton stand I've got him at rb 14 so I've got him a spot
23:26ahead of judkins I think like we're still slightly edging out hampton there just based off prospect um but I got him
23:33lower than chase brown kyron williams javante williams breece hall krish mccaffrey james cook jonathan taylor take your pick in the lot
23:39I just think like this guy can't even give you a double digit finishes here and he had double digit touches at
23:46least this week and and led in carries but still super inefficient and he's not really getting involved in the receiving game
23:52so um unfortunately I just nothing I can sink my teeth into in LA chargers land right now so would you is
23:59this are you like is this one of the things where you kind of are you getting out low if I'm an
24:05ultimate contender I think you have to right like if if you are actually trying to win your league this year there's
24:11no way you can be looking yourself in the mirror five weeks into the season and say I can expect hampton to
24:18give me double digit finishes at any sort of rate that is predictable so yeah at this point if you can flip
24:24them for javante breece chase brown yeah I'm doing it right like that's in your contending window teams it seems like a
24:31super cell low and it is comparatively to where we had in this offseason but like the reality of the situation is
24:37is you're genuinely consider benching him if you're on a contending roster right now to play less flashy names that aren't even
24:44close to as exciting I mean I would damn near consider playing juwan johnson over him right now even in a non-tight
24:50end premium format and and that in itself should speak volumes to where you are with hampton as a prospect and as
24:56a player and I'm not saying that you know this week redraft should be considered your new dynasty rankings I'm just saying
25:03yeah if I'm on a contending roster casey like I don't see how you could be looking at hampton if you plan
25:09to be your rb1 or rb2 even and and be looking at next week and saying yeah I'm ready for a playoff
25:16matchup like no you got to be looking elsewhere yeah and you're just you're looking around saying you know targets aren't there
25:22right now volume is barely there he's he cracked 23 in in week two against vegas but 12 15 9 14 and
25:29and you know we kind of talked about this with tooting a little bit tooting is at least you know in a
25:35scenario where the ecosystem is thriving and it looks good kind of like what we thought the charges would be I'm probably
25:41hanging on to hampton right now I think I haven't ranked that rb10 still um and I've been you know like kyron
25:48williams or marion hampton I'll go I mean this is the tough part if I'm contending kyron for sure it's just if
25:54I'm if I'm somewhere in the middle and you're just putting me in a vacuum I guess I'll still lean hampton there
26:01and and probably just trust the process I mean I will caveat by saying like I own a decent amount of hampton
26:07I'm not selling it all right now because I just know I'm about to get price gouged so yeah so if you
26:14had somebody like tooting on a rebuilding team and you approached a contender and they had a hampton and what if you
26:20could figure out a way to swap tooting for hampton easy give me hampton yeah okay okay all right so that was
26:26just kind of an ascending riser and a faller meeting I just wanted to okay so how about travion henderson uh it's
26:33hampton by and he's he's he's a name on this list so we can kind of cross pollinate here as as henderson
26:39being a faller so you're yeah we can trickle into henderson here let's uh let's knock them both out I mean hampton
26:46here I've got an rb 14 henderson I know I'm way lower than consensus on but I've got henderson all the way
26:52down at rb 22 and like that is I know probably pretty disrespectful to the prospect he was I loved him coming
26:59out of college thought he was gonna be a home run hitter thought he was gonna be like one of those guys
27:05that could you know consistently take 70 yard touchdowns in and really blow up your box score but right now I mean
27:12I just haven't seen anything from him that makes me think Mike Vrabel wants to get him involved they love remandre um
27:18the patriots are clapping back here and looking like they're starting to become competitive again but again on the back of remandre
27:24stevenson and nothing really crazy from travion yet so um you know maybe this off season you see stevenson start to fade
27:31out and henderson really rise up and then we can reevaluate but yeah I'm not sold yeah I mean if we're looking
27:37at crowdsource rankings we were just talking about hampton he's falling way down right now he's down a couple of spots at
27:44rb 8 to 29 overall and then looking for henderson here through the pile um it's just he he's a tricky one
27:50and and you know stan we were kind of tased right now he's at 72 he's plummeting um and then he may
27:57have gotten a little hurt this week rb 17 um which I have him let's see here are b's only I've got
28:03him at 15 right and I've got him ahead of christian mcafree and saquon barkley and obviously you know if you're anywhere
28:09near anything that matters that you know that's not a but this is just there has to be some value for me
28:16and rankings weighed in and that's the difficult part where production and value and age and all these things have to overlap
28:22and so many so many things on rankings depend on where you're personally at on a team right and I try to
28:29kind of weigh all that in and kind of middle it in my rankings right which is why rankings are so difficult
28:35um absolutely who tells you otherwise it's crazy um so but with travion man I have at least seen a kind of
28:42like we talked about with egg buka we saw a chunk of a season last year where his movement skills and his
28:48speed and his game-changing ability was on display so we saw it and and stan we kind of talked about it um
28:54you know pre-show of like generally I think dynasty's kind of boring and if you play it boring yeah you know I
29:01think I think you can keep yourself from doing a lot of dumb things you're gonna make bad trades it's just inevitable
29:07you it just is what it is you know you're gonna make some good ones you're gonna make some bad ones but
29:14travion to me is the ultimate like I've seen it let's have some patience and and let's see what happens but I
29:20agree he has to fall down the rankings um because you know we can hate remandre all we want but remandre is
29:27somebody who is just a good all-around player um and we've we've talked to chef about it and he was like I
29:33know you guys don't speak you know fluent vrableese but you know and and you know that's sort of what it is
29:39and maybe travion's just trapped forever and maybe this is just always been overranked and in a couple of years we'll at
29:46least get a better time share with him somewhere um but I I'm still believing in the prospect but like it's really
29:52hard right now if you have travion henderson and javante williams and say you know that you don't want javante williams right
29:59now I'm keeping travion ranked ahead of javante williams overall right now in my running back rankings but it feels a little
30:05gross no I I get it I I mean unfortunately I pulled up remandre stevenson's contract while you're talking here and like
30:12yeah you have a potential out this year for him that they can cut him and only get 3.5 million in dead
30:18cap but even next year his his his cap hits only 9 million and in the current running back market if you
30:24view this guy as your one like you have no issue paying that so you know I think it's just we got
30:31to see where the rest of the season shakes out but if remandre is still playing well and they're going to keep
30:37him under contract make the argument to me of putting travion henderson as a top 15 running back of the future when
30:44through two seasons you have zero to hang your hat on outside of like a random explosion play here and there and
30:50it's like yeah I like watching travion henderson run full speed too when he can get there but until until I see
30:57anything that I can put in my lineup with any sort of consistency I mean you're you're talking about him in the
31:03same realm as these random bench guys that score 30 points one week and then we forget about it cleave raymond right
31:09like this is what we're talking about I mean yeah I mean just like you said I mean I know people are
31:16going to like that comparison but he's unplayable right I mean you know it's just it's it's hard um so this is
31:22one where I think I I'm going to practice patience and be like I've seen some good from him as far as
31:29on the field talent and play um can he put all those things together to kind of make vrabel agree to let
31:35him be the guy that's tbd and that that has to continue to be pushing him down these rankings a little bit
31:42because it's like at the very least guys like and sometimes look coaches get this wrong but at the very least throw
31:48him the football throughout the game um and at least get him going and we can't even really get a whole lot
31:54of that so like you know jerry and price ranked at 20 basil toot and ranked at 19 we kind of talked
32:01about those guys in another show like basil toot and jadarian price or or travion henderson i have travion above but those
32:07guys uh ironically but that's just because i actually like travion henderson as a prospect i didn't like jadarian price as a
32:14prospect he just got a good landing spot for opportunity and i also didn't love basil toot and as a prospect so
32:20i'm hanging my hat here on like what i scouted a year ago uh but it's really close yeah i've got henderson
32:2722 and i've got you know tootin 23 and i've got price at 25 so frankly from what i've seen from jadarian
32:33price and tootin on field i love yeah i love their movement skills i love their quickness i love their speed and
32:39agility um we need targets to go tootin's way and some volume to stay there and then we need price to be
32:46able to get on the but it may be kind of a similar thing with price and sharves especially if they bring
32:52them back to stevenson and henderson right um so i think i think kind of where they are right now i think
32:59i may still be a little too high on henderson um but that's a tough one and i don't i don't know
33:05i can't say i'm buying low on henderson either this is kind of like i'm just kind of staying put i'm having
33:12patience if i got them i got them if i don't you know if somebody wants to sell low i may pick
33:18them up in a deal but i'm not that interested in acquiring much more travion henderson and waiting so um last run
33:24i'll let somebody else hold that risk yeah last running back on here and then we'll hit a couple quarterbacks on the
33:31way out cam scadabo yeah i got him ranked at 21 overall right now behind all those guys we just talked about
33:37travion tootin price i think it's probably unfair um yeah i just much like what i see on the field from tootin
33:44i like more than what i see from cam scadabo from a running back perspective now cam scadabo can get in there
33:50and do some some nasty work and be a whole lot of fun um but you know i i view them sort
33:57of similarly except because the receptions and that was what i was worried about with cam this year was that and you
34:03mentioned it in our pre-show kind of chat like there was targets there for cam and there isn't targets there for to
34:09build that floor up and if the touchdown upside isn't going to be there that we were having last year with him
34:16and jackson dart kind of running around uh it's cam scadabo has certainly been a bit of a disappointment to start this
34:22season where are you is he a buy low where do you have him ranked i think he's a buy at cost
34:29right and like that's sitting on a fence but it is i don't think there's a huge like cam scadabo's disappointed me
34:35crowd i don't think there's a huge he's overachieving crowd i think he's just exactly where a lot of people expected him
34:42to be and unfortunately for me i was high on cam scadabo so like i wanted to cover him here because he's
34:48been a faller for me like i had great expectations for this man i i always like to target running backs that
34:54have the profile of doing the two most important things in fantasy football if you are a running back do you catch
35:01passes do you score touchdowns cam scadabo he's got a path to goal line touches he's got a path to receptions right
35:07and i liked both those things coming into this season you mentioned the ppr floor there you know like last year and
35:14this is why he's a big follower for me like he had several games um of six to eight targets in 2025
35:20this year he hasn't topped a game of more than four targets and sure you could say jackson darts out it's james
35:27winston it's a different offense you gotta you know filter that all in that's fair unfortunately it's just it's looking like he's
35:33not gonna be an elite pass catching running back that i was kind of hoping if everything panned out perfectly his ceiling
35:39could be oh top 10 back right he scores a bunch of touchdowns he catches a lot of passes that's awesome i
35:46think those days are probably sailed so i have an rb 18 and i think that's where he kind of deserves to
35:52be you know like i still think that that's in his wheelhouse i still think with dart in there maybe it's a
35:59different story maybe this offense looks a little different next year um but this is just the reality of cam scadabo i
36:05think the days of hoping he gives you a top 12 finisher are behind us all right at least this season right
36:12like next year is a different story okay so cam scadabo or somebody like a rashi rice i'll go scat there but
36:18i'm very low on rice i just don't think rice is as long for this league with his behavioral issues i'm still
36:24taking rashi right there that's fair you don't so you're you're out on the rashi rice of the world we got bring
36:31we'll bring up a couple of swipes here on scadabo to the end the running back segment i'm gonna go rice that's
36:37on that one um deandre swift or scadabo i'll go scadabo there but just barely i have scadabo ranked ahead of swift
36:44so i'll i will also acquiesce all right this is quarterback running back yeah ronald scadabo kind of unfair i think to
36:50yeah i'll go scat here and we'll also i'll skip that one oops i mean let's skip all right michael wilson or
36:57scadabo oh whoo make me pick between my children this is a good one give me uh give me michael wilson here
37:03yeah all right i think it's fair kyrin or scadabo easy easy kyrin right yeah yeah easy easy i think it's easy
37:10three top 10 finishes in a row i mean they really want you to do the sam darn i know i just
37:16clicked it golf or scadabo this one i'm gonna go golf but i'm a serial like jared golf defender out here okay
37:22luther burden or scadabo oh this one's gonna cause cause some hate i'm going luther i know you are i'm going scat
37:29but i i've been materially lower on burden so bucky irvinger scat this one i have them back to back in my
37:35rankings but i'm gonna go bucky yeah yeah i like it i like it all right let's let's jump on over to
37:42um the last little bit here and we'll keep it brief here we got herbert nicks and shuck uh and and i
37:48don't you know i think shuck is fine but we can we can breeze over it for a second so herbert just
37:55to close out the the chargers category what are we doing with herbert you got a holding him if you have him
38:01because probably no one's buying him but man i just i feel so validated telling everyone to sell justin herbert this offseason
38:07and just tear off and go to jared golf and print yourself some liquidity in between and i did it myself i
38:14i went i told you i went justin herbert to uh to jared golf and breeze hall i feel great about it
38:20yeah no i mean i look listen i've been uh somebody who's campaigned for herbert throughout um that i thought he was
38:27always a little too low this season he did rebound um i didn't find myself clicking a whole lot of herbert when
38:33we were doing mocks and things like that um but i certainly didn't think it would be this where we're at right
38:40now um but yeah i think is there would you now buy into herbert if there's a dip at the right price
38:46i'll buy it anybody at the right price sure i mean i think i think that's the way you should be playing
38:52anything i mean if you can get to herbert pretty easily from like uh dak prescott bryce young jordan love i'm willing
38:59to ride those coattails a bit to get to justin herbert but i i think even if we talk about like mendoza
39:05i'd probably rather just uh just be excited about the youth there really i'm i'm i'll stick pretty heavy with justin herbert
39:12over any of those guys that you just mentioned yeah no i mean absolutely if you can like i said if you
39:18can get to justin herbert from from any of those guys i mentioned i'm good with it now the mendoza thing i've
39:25got 13 uh herbert and 14 mendoza so like i still think if you can get a one two pick swap in
39:31there i would take mendoza at a first for justin herbert in the second very interesting but i do have them i
39:37also do have them close yeah herbert 12 mendoza 14 um and then in there one spot ahead of herbert right now
39:44is bo nix yes um and we and and we'd met what you know waddles on the follower list we didn't have
39:50any of the broncos running backs on there but we've kind of mentioned this multiple times throughout this episode like we kind
39:57of know that this offense is sick now does this offense get an antibiotic and get better or is this a season-long
40:03virus for bo nix oh uh that's a great question i wish i had a crystal ball to tell you if the
40:10broncos could turn it around in a heartbeat i'm gonna trust history here and say Bo Nix has given us two qb7
40:16finishes in a row uh sean payton has consistently got the best out of him and they made a an afc championship
40:22game last year so let's say the broncos get right i don't know if they get right against seattle this week but
40:29they get right uh over a period of time yes so is this a is this a buy the dip on bo
40:35nix then if we're buying if we can buy like you said for the right price i think again i mentioned dynasty
40:42should be boring so when when things are up here you kind of hang on and do whatever and if you don't
40:48believe you sell high and when things go down low and somebody's shown you that they can be a quality fantasy output
40:55player like nix and herbert have you typically do want to say hey let's buy low i i haven't watched enough broncos
41:01with a with an astute eye to say hey this is what i see is going wrong and and when they fix
41:07this i could see this going in the right direction um well you said something that's tough there you you said something
41:14like yeah i've seen him be a good fantasy output and that's true right so like for the right price i'll buy
41:20bo nix maybe a hot take but like i watch enough football and in the broncos tape like i just don't think
41:27bo nix is very talented as a real life quarterback like i i'll all kind of die on the mountain that like
41:33if it was me i'd i'd consider maybe not even making him my franchise qb and extending him if you're denver and
41:40like attaching yourself to that i just don't know what bo nix does that's super special um that all being said like
41:46yeah he's managed games and he's giving you upside here and he's got top 10 fantasy finishes under his boat so um
41:52from a fantasy producer yeah you buy him but maybe it's my bias right now of like i don't know if i'm
41:59buying a ton of bo nix or if we're just starting to see the cracks in the armor that i was already
42:05worried about so is it i mean what is it the rushing right now that's that's holding the floor back yeah i
42:12guess i i think it's the rushing and it's just situational upside like he's had chances to score points in ways that
42:18just aren't very repeatable you know yeah yeah i mean he's he's only had 35 yards rushing on the season yeah it's
42:25not really the rushing it's just like he's somehow staying in there with the the passing touchdowns he's he's had one in
42:31every game they don't have a lot of running game but it's just the completion percentage is pretty abysmal like you know
42:37you're looking week one it was 71 but since then hasn't cracked 60 casey like 50 week two 59 and then another
42:4459 this week like that is bad that's not good yeah i mean you know i i had him and brock purdy
42:50pretty close coming into the season and bo a little elevated now bo has fallen down herbert's fallen down purdy has moved
42:57up um so you know uh you know that was a question in the offseason brock purdy or bo nix and there
43:03was a lot of uh you know i like i like brock but now it's it is firmly easily brock yes absolutely
43:10okay all right and the last one we'll touch on because i think this one's interesting because it seems like shuck has
43:16now seen two kind of you know had a primetime game last week and then this week um we struggled against the
43:22vikings and there was a lot of tyler shuck blake bortles um you know comparison which i i'll lead off here and
43:29if you've been if you've heard me say this already sorry i think that's garbage um i i think i've seen shuck
43:35have great ball placement great athleticism um have really solid traits uh and i think a part of dynasty and fantasy generally
43:42that gets that everybody gets wrong is that if you're not elite then people don't want you and you're not good like
43:48it's okay to just be a good player like you need good players on your team what gets misconstrued is that everybody
43:55thinks everybody needs to be elite or they stink and that is not accurate and from what tyler shuck has shown me
44:01he's good enough and he hasn't even played a full season basically in the league as far as a starter and the
44:07saints have been a team that have pushed the can down the road push the can down the road push the can
44:14down the road it's time to pay the piper and he's the guy there right now having to eat the shit for
44:20what they've done and him and kellen moore seem like a good marriage together and that's a big thing to have figured
44:27out as a franchise that had a lot of you know patents to pay off right and so i think they've kind
44:33of figured those two things out is shuck an all-time great you know saints quarterback or one of the best in the
44:40league no but there's legs there and he seems to understand how to play the position the fact that anybody thinks that
44:46the saints were supposed to be good this year because they had a couple of comebacks and i saw our our boy
44:52um uh the smash except guy i'm drawing um drawing a blank on his name right now um oh uh dynasty dad
44:59no the other one ff snoog snoog i saw snoog saying basically like he was never good he's just been behind and
45:05had to throw it a lot like the saints are just gonna throw it a lot doesn't matter if they're behind um
45:12and you know i just you haven't been watching i don't think if you haven't been seeing where he puts the balls
45:18pause um you know and and the athleticism so for fantasy you know i think he's a good franchise quarterback i don't
45:25think he's elite and and as this this offensive line is terrible and he just played the falcons who blitz a ton
45:31and got home a lot in an individual rival and then he played flores who makes a lot of quarterbacks look very
45:37poor and he had a poor outing and it is what he's a young quarterback in the league not as far as
45:44age is concerned um but i i don't this has me concerned this much with shuck over the last couple of games
45:50now stan you may have a completely different take there um but that's kind of where i am with it no movement
45:57for shuck for me is what i'm saying no i'm with you i mean i i do think he was jacked up
46:03a little too high in the dynasty rankings over the last few weeks from what i've seen just people being reactionary and
46:10all um but what you mostly said the bread and butter there i agree with right like they're gonna throw the ball
46:16a lot this is a good marriage between him and the coaching staff here and kind of what they want to do
46:22in new orleans you know you haven't even seen jordan tyson yet so you're gonna add another awesome weapon to his ceiling
46:29potential there and you know right now uh there's no running game so they're gonna they're gonna have to throw the football
46:35at least for the next several weeks so yeah i'm with you man i think like tyler shook not saying that they're
46:42the same type of player at all but it's like could he absolutely kind of do what jared goff has done for
46:48you for the last several years in fantasy where he's like hovering from an 8 to 12 finish each and every year
46:55and he airs the ball out plenty and has some elite weapons like a lave and tyson and you know johnson's been
47:01good this year and we know travis a chan at his best can catch plenty plenty of passes out of the backfield
47:08so it's like there will be good days ahead for the saints offense and shuck seems to be the guy that's that's
47:14going to take him there so no no real movement from me here i i remain comfortable with him i've got him
47:20at uh at qb20 right now yep that seems super fair if i look at mine i've got tyler shook a little
47:27higher than you actually could be 16 so there you go yeah i've got i've got golf at 16 baker love stroud
47:33shuck bryce young kind of all in that same vein with golf not golf as has for me i see he's probably
47:40started off here moved up closer more in the dac range um kind of by himself with those two and then baker
47:46love cj stroud and shuck bryce young kind of moving to the tail end of that throughout this year it's kind of
47:53where i have that qb grouping yeah no i think that's totally fair and i i think quarterbacks are like you know
47:59not a exactly the the exact science of rankings here but yeah if a startup was tomorrow like i'd take him before
48:05i'd take dac jordan love baker i i'd be good with all that but you know i think it's just like he's
48:12he's an upside qb2 for me and i think you could make the argument of dac being better but whatever it's an
48:18yeah there's no way i think dac is better just he's just been playing a lot longer like he you know it's
48:25just it is what it is but like the fact like he can like that's that's that's kind of the point it's
48:31like yes in a one qb do i necessarily want shuck as my my difference making quarterback no but like i'm probably
48:38going to get through most seasons just fine if shuck is my quarterback and it's been fine except for this last last
48:44kind of two weeks um but like he's he's a really good piece that you picked up in the second round last
48:50year of super flex drafts like this was great value i think he's been in a great return on investment and i
48:57think moving forward like the situation that he's tied to and the coaching staff that he's with seems to really like him
49:03and be a good fit and and the what we've talked about this whole kind of show is the ecosystem seems like
49:10it is is going in the right direction of being very good we sure up this line a little bit and we
49:16get a little bit better on defense we get a semblance of a run game and chuck will continue to rise up
49:23these ranks a little bit more so absolutely it's kind of where i'm at all right we're gonna wrap this one up
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