0:00Boys, we are back. The Los Angeles Chargers couldn't do [ __ ] against the Arizona Cardinals. We Well, we didn't lose at all. We could have done better.
0:10We could have done worse. I actually thought cash games I don't know how many times this year cash games are going to
0:15be legitimately interesting. There were a bunch of different decisions to make at basically like I thought there were what probably like five playable running
0:22backs, maybe six. I thought there were three playable quarterbacks. One of them suffered maybe a season ending injury on the very first uh possession. There were
0:32like a couple different def like highric defenses. That was uh the Nate thing.
0:36And when when we turn the cards over and we show you guys what happened to Nate for for once, I actually think Nate, the
0:43chat's going to be with you. I I think they're going to feel for you because I I gotta say, Nate, you played good and
0:48you ran bad. I'll hand it to you for the first time ever. You played good and you ran bad.
0:54Yeah, it was it was a frustrating outcome. I don't want to spoil it, but yeah, it was frustrating.
0:59>> So, I guess let's just go ahead and start by talking about the quarterback position. I think there were basically three playable quarterbacks. I think
1:07there was Justin Herbert. I think there was Jared Goff. And I think there was Kyler Murray. Kyler obviously in the lineup combinations when you needed the
1:16salary. I think Herbert was like I would say he was the want play and he was the one that was in blended optimal. So if
1:24you blended Run the Sims, ETR, Cardi, and Saber. Uh you would have gotten Herbert. Where I landed ultimately was with Jared Goff because I was like if
1:35I'm playing Gibbs and I'm playing St.
1:37Brown, don't don't I just want Goff? And the projections I mean the projections are razor razor close. Like Ron the Sims
1:44has Kyler for 19. Uh we were actually more bearish on Goff at 16.3 and then Herbert for 19.7.
1:52So that was mostly a correlated play to me. Um Nathaniel, how were you thinking about the quarterback position?
2:00>> I mean I definitely looked at Goff and Herbert, but I thought that Murray at his price uh with his running upside I I
2:10don't know. I thought Murray was the play here. I I just from a price standpoint, I think I get it from a golf
2:15standpoint, but golf has to have such insane efficiency to get there. And in this spot, he projected to, but it's like if Gibbs gets two rushing TDs,
2:25you're dead.
2:25>> You I was going to say what you what you literally need is you need one of Gibbs' touchdowns to come via reception or you
2:33get what you got today, which is the Lions offense is pretty good. They got I mean that they had to have had like 450
2:40yards overall on offense. Actually Goff didn't even threaten the bonus. So maybe maybe not. I mean he got frankly golf lineups got very lucky to get overtime.
2:49Like actually insanely lucky to get overtime because the Saints look like one of the worst teams um in the NFL. I
2:55mean frankly Sammy I wanted to play Herbert. Her Herbert was my want play.
3:00My lineup ran out of salary. I I would have preferred to have played Herbert.
3:03Now, after watching the Los Angeles Chargers ply their trade on the football field, I think I'm cured of wanting to play Chargers for the rest of the year,
3:12I I actually think I'm good. I think maybe I'll play Lad every once in a while, but I think mostly I'm good on
3:17the Chargers.
3:18>> Well, first off, Lad died. Secondly, >> he did die. Yes, that's true.
3:22>> Yeah, the I mean, buddy, the Chargers are an egregious mess. It's like, oh, we got Mike McDaniel. Like, everything's going to be different. It's going to be
3:30good. Dude, they are ass. They're hot ass. And the fact that we played Omar and Hampton who at the beginning of the
3:36game I was just like dude >> dude he he scored that touchdown I was like dude he's getting 35. Yeah.
3:42>> Yeah dude he's so much he's so big and just like runs full. So he looks like Derrick Henry out there and you're just
3:48like holy [ __ ] Like I'm going to smash.
3:50But um >> 10 point home favorites. They lost by more than a touchdown.
3:56>> Yeah. And and and we were talking about this before we started up here. It's not like something bad happened. There was a
4:03fumble that went the wrong way or pick.
4:05Dude, they just got their asses whooped.
4:07Their lily asses kicked up and down the field. And uh yeah, we're we're stupid for putting any American dollars like on
4:14their victory today. This tough scene at Survivor.
4:17>> So, it's very tough scene. So, running.
4:19>> I will I will say this. No, hold on.
4:21Hold on. I never considered Kyler Murray.
4:24>> Never. I did. I I did.
4:26>> No, I I didn't. And you know, it it seems like you can't really know what was going to happen because it's super
4:32revisionist, right? Because he just got hurt right away. But Kyler, I know he projects well. I know he's got rushing upside. Like we know this about Kyler
4:40Murray, but like dude, he he might just be too small and little to be able to hack it.
4:46>> And once >> No, I I'm I'm overruling. I'm over I'm overruling.
4:51>> And once it's KC, it's Justin Jefferson.
4:53There's so many reasons why he was going to get up. He was gonna put points up here.
4:57>> I I get it, dude. I get it. But like at the end of the day, you know, this is cash games. We're going for floor and
5:03Kyler Murray has like a pretty bad floor. And you know, it's one of those things where Kyler Murray, you know, he's like 5 foot 10. He got drafted
5:11number one overall because he's like this god tier athlete, but what happens to these guys who aren't really like that good at football and processing and
5:20this and that, but they're just super athletic? what happens when they're 28 years old or 29 or whatever he is and
5:26start mounting injuries and they lose that half step that makes them so different. Um, I think bad things and uh Kyler Murray hasn't been very good for
5:38>> I'm going to hard disagree with this take. I >> It's not just because I played Kyler that I disagree with this, but I just
5:43think at $5,500 on draftkings.com at quarterback for a guy who's going to have rushing work like you don't need much passing efficiency. So you he
5:53doesn't need to be a good quarterback.
5:54He doesn't need to be a real NFL quarterback for you to get points on DraftKings. And the way the rest of the
5:58lineup construction went down to him made total sense. Tyler Shook, I'll play anybody at 5500. I'll play Drew Lock.
6:05>> We should have played Tyler Sh.
6:06>> We should have >> I will play Drew Lock at 5500 next week and it will be the right lineup construction on DraftKings for floor at
6:12a quarterback. I'm not I'm not trying to evaluate their talent or their ability.
6:16I don't want Kyler Murray as my franchise quarterback, but on DraftKings, like this is how you play.
6:21And I'm I'm I think Kyler was the play at 55.
6:24>> Yeah. I'm I I ultimately didn't play Kyler because I just felt that with Gibbs and St. Brown in the lineup, like
6:33once I decided I was doing the St. Brown lineup and not doing the three running back lineup, which was viable, by the
6:39way, if you did the two punt wide receiver, three expensive running back lineup, I don't think you played bad at all. I think that was a totally
6:45reasonable decision to play uh Bejon or Derrick Henry or Jonathan Taylor or whoever over um over St. Brown. I I think I think that's and frankly we
6:56haven't even got to >> let's get >> the real we No, we'll get to the real issue. We will get to the real issue in
7:02in all of our lineups, but at running back Gibbs was a lock. Then I think you had to choose one of Bejon, Achan,
7:10Jonathan Taylor, Amarian Hampton, Ashen Genty. Those were the playable running backs to me. It sounds like I I didn't check, but I believe the ETR train
7:20included uh I I think Levitan did Jonathan Taylor. So, shout out to uh I Hey, good good play. I have no issue
7:29with it. Ultimately, I did Jir Gibbs with Amari and Hampton and then I did the double I did the double tight end
7:38lineup. But, I mean, Sammy, we were talking up and down about swapping. I mean, if we would have just clean swapped Hampton to Genty, we would have
7:45been home free. And I feel really stupid because Genty, I I bet his overs. I bet him I bet his receiving
7:52overs. I bet his touchdowns. I was like, "This is the Genty spot. This is like the only game the Raiders are going to
7:57be favored in all year. I took Raiders.
7:59We took Raiders three times in the $100 Survivor on Splash. I was all in." And I said, "You know what? Can't do Genty,
8:06who I know is better than Amarian Hampton." I don't even think Amarian Hampton's good. I called I called Ashton Genty the running back of our generation
8:13on a show on Friday. And then you know what I did in Cash Games? I said, "No, no. I gotta play Amari and Hampton the
8:20the 10-point home favorites. Got to play Hampton first off is like whatever.
8:24He's fine." But [ __ ] Genty in this spot. Genty as a $6,600 player. This is like getting Bejian Robinson but for
8:32$1,000 less.
8:34>> You'll never get this price again.
8:37>> It's so bad. It's so bad. I played bad.
8:39I played bad.
8:40>> You did?
8:40>> I mean, buddy. Buddy, I played Genty in all my tournament lineups. It was just like so obvious. Like, dude, Gent. Of
8:46course, of course. And like in cash, it's like, no, no. Omar and Hampton threeman committee and these bungling idiot coaches. Like, Jesus Christ, it's
8:58so bad, bro. So bad.
9:00>> Yeah. And you know, Nate, I I got to I got to give you your flowers. I really I really do. You win. You win the threeman
9:08by uh what one point. Two 1.18 points.
9:13But you played you played Bejian Robinson and I would not >> just a straight a straight alltimer from
9:23Davis this morning. If you didn't see what I tweeted, this is what Davis uh tweeted or sent in our group chat.
9:30Nate was like, "Hey, I'm going Bejian and the Raiders over Hampton and the Steelers." And Davis says, and I quote, "Beon is so [ __ ] bad." LOL. Come on,
9:40Nate.
9:42>> It was more, first off, I would say any I would say anyone that Nate was going to play is bad in the morning. Like, it
9:47doesn't matter. Where I was coming from was I was just like, dude, I have to jam the Steelers defense is where I was
9:54coming at. I was just like, I I thought I played the Steelers defense. Steelers and Jets I played in 100% of of my
10:00lineups. I I thought the Steelers are the the Falcons are never winning this game. They're not going to be able to
10:06move the ball. I mean, and it's so funny cuz Drake London literally had like four points and Kyle Pittz had zero cuz it
10:11all went to Bejon because Bejon had uh eight receptions for 90 yards.
10:17>> This is what this is what Nate says to to Davis in reply. Davis says Bejon is so [ __ ] bad. Come on, Nate. And Nate
10:24says, "Yeah, getting eight Bejon dump offs from Cooper Rush really gonna be bad." like literally says eight. Like Nate just windmill dunking on Davis week
10:34one of the 2026 NFL season. The people love to see it.
10:38>> I just don't understand. I mean, literally Bejian literally was like second highest in the league in expected production last year. And he was more
10:46efficient than the workload that he got.
10:49And week one, we're expecting him to get more. He's getting all of the workload in this backfield. And that is like
10:55>> 20 21 rushes and 10 targets. It's It's not even a question. And you're like, I'm going to fade that so I can play
11:01Omar and Hampton.
11:02>> It wasn't It wasn't about where I don't even know if he's going to get any passing work. It might be all Katon
11:07Mitchell out there. We have no idea what Hampton's workload's going to look like.
11:11And it's not even like you're getting a big discount. You're saving like $1,000 to go to Hampton. And it's the core like
11:17the Bejian thing was so obvious. And for you to fade him simply because of Cooper Rush, he hasn't had a quarterback ever.
11:24I don't care if it's Cooper Rush. It's Bejian freaking Robinson at 7 and the expected production. You sit here making lineup decisions about a
11:32defense.
11:33>> No, we're in world Davis cuz we paid >> You're building your lineups around a defense.
11:39>> We paid up for defense like 2025.
11:43I just I guess where I was is I thought there was there were two defenses I think that were so obvious who were
11:50going to get like a minimum of 10 which were the Jags and the Steelers. So I really like a lot of the times when
12:00you're playing salary cap DFS on draft kings and cash games like by the time we get to week five and week six the salary
12:06is going to be so tight that we are going to be like dude we're taking the Panthers defense and we're hoping we're
12:11getting four you know but this was not that style of slate just the way the options came out and so I didn't think
12:19ending up with a defense that got five points was not going to be viable which it wasn't by the way today if you did
12:24end up with a defense that got like six points you were [ __ ] You were not you were not winning. Um you you you would
12:29have gotten >> Jacksonville put up >> a lot of points. I I don't know. They didn't they didn't score a touchdown,
12:35though. I don't think, >> dude. No, they didn't. But Deshun Watson is egregious, dude. He like there's no way he starts for more than like one or
12:43two weeks. So, I think moving forward, we really need to take advantage of this. Like, whoever Deshun Watson is playing, we have to play them. Doesn't
12:51matter the price. Like, >> winner. I >> I don't know what Cleveland's doing. why they started him this year. I mean, I I
12:59we can't be confident they're not going to play him for for the rest of the season. I I don't know what they're
13:03doing.
13:04>> Yeah.
13:04>> But I just Yeah. I can't believe that you jammed in a defense over Bjan and took a running back who I even said,
13:10"Don't do Hampton. Do A Chain or JT and instead you're like, "No, I'll take the guy with the shakiest workload." Like
13:18>> I I best ruined your brain. Best ruin your brain. No, I had Genty ranked over Hampton in baseball. I There's no
13:26excuse. There's no excuse. It's It's >> It's >> Here's Here's why I didn't do it. Here's why I didn't do it. And it'll lead into
13:35receiver because it was just so obvious in retrospect, but we already had Mayor who is the the free piece that if you
13:42didn't play him in cash, you're bad.
13:44>> This is what it was was that we had two Raiders. Yeah.
13:46>> And then and then we played Trey Tucker.
13:48And I was like, you know, I don't really think that I want to start off my my season here with three Raiders.
13:55>> That's a Nate move. That the three Raiders is the Nate move. [ __ ] Jacobe Myers, Ashton Genty, uh, Brock Powers.
14:02That's the Nate move.
14:04>> And he would have won. And he would have won. But it but it came down to But but here's the thing. It was really easy not
14:09to play Trey Tucker because you could have just played Veillay in the dome in a massive barn burner shootout and instead were like actually
14:20let's play Trey Tucker in a Raiders versus Dolphins game. Great [ __ ] idea. Like this is the one. Even Omar
14:28and Hampton I thought was was bad um in retrospect doing it over Genty but but Trey Tucker. Trey Tucker. Yeah, Trey
14:38Tucker is just never like we all played him, but Trey Tucker is just never like a you gotta play him guy. He just isn't.
14:45>> He had one week, one week last season he had that massive like three touchdown have it in his head that he can play
14:51ball. He can't play ball. I mean, [ __ ] Why did we play him? Like that was >> it's also it's also one of those things
14:58where if you have the position we have that the Raider well the position that I had which is the Raiders are going to
15:03win this game. It makes even less sense to play Trey Tucker who like needs like opportunities like he needs a couple
15:10deep shots to get there like like well I mean maybe he converts his one deep shot which I don't even believe he got in
15:16this game but you'd like to have like 40 Kurt Cousins dropbacks and and we were not ever getting that in this game.
15:23probably even if they're losing this game, we don't get 40 Kurt Cousins drop backs because it probably means Achan and Malik Willis are just like running
15:31nuclear. Like they're just like gaining there's averaging like six and a half yards per carry um or whatever. So the team that Nate played was Kyler Murray,
15:41Jamir Gibbs, Bejan Robinson, Trey Tucker, Jamar Chase, Aman Raj St. Brown, Jawan Johnson, Michael Mayer, and the Raiders. Our 3v3 was G Hampton and the
15:51Steelers over Kyler Murray, Devin Han, and the the Raiders. Um, which is I I mean I think I think good.
16:02I think so. The other thing that people did and I'm I'm pulling up the massive 25 or this is the giant.
16:08>> There was a big train that was achain and Jaguars D over Bjan and Raiders D.
16:13And there was also I can't find it but somewhere in here I believe the is was it this team? Uh this looks like a huge
16:21train but I didn't consider any of these players.
16:25I'm trying there was a there's the Levitan train is in here somewhere.
16:29Maybe this is it.
16:30>> Was it Vele? because that was um >> so it was it was basically >> it was using Vele instead of Tucker and
16:38then going from Hampton/BJ to Jonathan Taylor and then I think that lineup also played the Steelers defense instead of the Raiders defense. So it was I believe
16:49maybe it was Kyler maybe it was Goff I don't remember and then it was Gibbs Jonathan Taylor St. Brown, Tucker, Jawan Johnson, Mayor
17:03Raiders. I think >> the biggest the biggest double the biggest double up train was um I have it here pulled up. It's um Goff. Uh
17:14yeah, it's Goff, Jawan. I'm on Raw, but it's it's Gibbs and Achan. uh Chase
17:24uh Mayor Jawan and yeah Veil over uh Trey Tucker. So and then they played Jaguars D. So I I I I do feel bad about
17:34Trey Tucker. I mean we should have looked at Vele over Trey Tucker for sure. Especially because >> we for sure should have looked at VLE
17:39over Trey Tucker.
17:40>> Just the the game environment of of the Detroit game versus Vegas. I yeah that's >> yeah if you're going to take a secondary
17:48option I mean you know I think a the projections like like Tucker fine but also at least me I have this idea of
17:56like oh Trey Tucker is like their only pass catcher and he's not you know like he's just a guy >> Jack B so so I even this was I wish I
18:06knew who tweeted this but someone tweeted like well Bes was a tight end in college who converted wide receiver he's just going to slot into Bowowers's
18:14position which is exactly What happened?
18:16By the way, that that was literally B.
18:18It was just one for one. Bash just played Bowowers's position. Mayor played his position. He just had slightly better targets per route run, which he
18:26always does when Bowers is not on the field, right? But I mean, Mayor was in the massive $25 double up. Uh where is
18:35it? Here. Mayor was owned 78%. Vele was owned 34%. The biggest issue um with with our lineup stuff overall was that
18:44Jamar Chase scored 3.2 points, two receptions for 12 yards. I mean, obviously uh anything from Jamar Chase and when I I I um because I was having
18:55to actually >> he was what, like 60% owned.
18:58>> He was, but I was I was actually looking at ownership percentages of stuff today because I was sweating our swap so much.
19:04And something you realize is that early in the season before it's only true Incel virgins remaining playing these contests, you do have people who are
19:13just straight up playing bad. Like they do like their Jamar Chase lineup is included in that 68.6%. But they are like not even close.
19:20>> Like they're like their lineup is so far away from anything you could imagine that you're not even competing against them. And then you add that up. So
19:27obviously Jamar Chase gets and frankly given how bad our lineup was. I mean I scraped back $639 out of like $880
19:36entered or whatever. So it could have been could could have been a lot worse.
19:40I mean it could have been a it could have been a lot worse. And frankly I would assume the only reason my lineup
19:46was able to scrape anything back was >> is because Kyler was so >> Kyler got hurt. Kyler got hurt.
19:51>> Yeah. Yeah.
19:52>> Yeah.
19:53>> So >> yeah. Like didn't do great in the in the double ups but like the headtoheads.
19:56Yeah. people were playing bad in those and yeah, that got me.
20:01>> Um, but yeah, I mean, I think I think uh Nate Nate uh played good, ran bad with Kyler Murray.
20:08>> Um, I don't think there's anything really to learn. I mean, I probably just will play the true generational talent as a three-point home favorite instead
20:15of [ __ ] [ __ ] around with the Marian Hampton's [ __ ] >> That's just like sometimes when you lose, you're like,
20:24"Hey man, this was not avoidable." And I just like it is what it is and sometimes you just lose. But when it's a situation
20:29like this where I had a lot of opportunities to just play Genty, um I probably should have just I probably should have just played Genty. I mean
20:37Nate you should be giga tilting because you played good.
20:41>> Yeah, I am. I am. I like legitimately I was I mean obviously the chase thing is is what it is. But yeah, overall I felt
20:52like when I when I saw everything flop and I was like, "Wait, no one played Bejan. Everyone went some of these other
20:57running backs instead. I'll take the second highest expected production for $1,000 off." Yeah.
21:04>> Yeah. I think I think just just revisiting this, I think the biggest thing is Omaran Hampton doesn't have the receiving chops that a lot of these
21:12other guys >> Well, he did. He did last year. He he he like legitimately did last year, but to Nate's point, like we didn't know. Was
21:18it going to be Katon? Was it going to be Videll? Was it gonna be [ __ ] Alec Engold? Was it going to be like are they
21:23going to just play 12 personnel and not which is I mean we'll look at the I'll look at the Trdia and see what what
21:30actually happened. But yeah, it was just very annoying.
21:32>> Yeah. Yeah. Genty just like Genty just dude. He's so good.
21:38>> Yeah. Um okay, get to some tournament stuff now. So, this team I played in the double spy. So, this was 20k to first,
21:49uh, 555 entrance, $200 to enter. I played a 5% on Caleb Williams, who turned out 37 points. I did play Marian
21:57Hampton at 26%.
22:02>> Early contender for worst play of the year.
22:05>> Uh, Jir Gibbs, Justin Jefferson at 14%, early contender for You guys are so stupid. I can't believe you guys don't play Justin Jefferson. You're all
22:12really dumb.
22:13>> Garrett Wilson, who I did not think was going to get close to 17%. I was floored by that. I I thought that was wild. I
22:21thought he would be >> five >> 6%.
22:24>> Yeah. No, nobody wants Garrett Wilson.
22:26Nobody wants Jets. Like that's that's crazy. I can't believe he's 17%.
22:30>> Um I did Burden. I did who was 13%. Uh which I thought was I thought in smaller field he would be a little bit higher
22:38than that. I I don't I don't think that is that bad at all. Michael Mayer and Marshawn Lloyd with the Jets defense.
22:45And I thought I thought Lloyd at 5% I was like, if you would have told me Lloyd was single digits in all these
22:50contests, I probably would have played him more than I did. I did not play a ton of Marshon Lloyd. Now, uh turns out
22:57the Grim Bay Packers stink. Their offensive line is terrible and they he just like never got an attempt to run downhill at at all. And and Marshon
23:06Lloyd is like not the guy like he's part of part of a backfield.
23:10>> I mean he led it, right? But like he didn't start the game.
23:14>> He didn't get a did he target? You know, it's just like >> I he I don't I don't believe I don't
23:19believe he did get target. He was 4,800 and it kept me from playing chalk ve Trey Tucker Chalk Jawan Johnson like all
23:28those guys. Giga and and Lloyd's projection was very similar to those dudes. I mean, Marshon Lloyd for 11.6,
23:38Jawan Johnson for 10.8, uh, Vele for 8.4, Tucker for well, 12.3. But I think I
23:50think given the um Oh, he did he did get a target in the end zone. Good for him.
23:54I mean, frankly, like I I think that's a that's actually a play I would make again. I I actually don't I
24:02actually don't really feel that bad about that one about at playing him at 5%.
24:08>> Caleb [ __ ] smashed, dude. He had an insane game. The Bears put up 59 points and Coulson Loveland had two targets and
24:18zero receptions.
24:20>> Like the the baseball bros, the seasonal bro, dude, people are tilting about this.
24:27>> Yeah, they uh they they need to take a deep breath. Uh, yes, Nathaniel, you're on mute, brother.
24:34>> Oh, sorry. I had upload showdown. Uh, Lovelin was out there for like every route. I mean, Lovelin was Loveland.
24:41>> Him and Terrence Ferguson are sitting in the sauna together like, "Bro, we just ran bad, you know."
24:46>> Yeah, I'm not worried about this. This was like a This was like a I think like a 82% sim ROI or whatever in a 500
24:53person field in uh on on Run the Sims.
24:57Like I >> I really like I I just particular I mean I didn't I did not think Garrett Wilson would be 17%. And I obviously really
25:05rather wish that this was Genty, but I mean Justin Jefferson at 14 15% dude.
25:11Like I I would play I would play this lineup again. I really I really would.
25:16>> Yeah. With a with a tight end in there instead of Lloyd.
25:21>> I'm just saying no. I'm just saying like if we ran this late again, I I would probably run this lineup back without
25:25with literally anyone other than Hampton. I put put [ __ ] put Aaron Jones in there, dude. I don't care. I'm I'm done. I'm out on the
25:33Chargers, bro. I'm out. Any remaining stock I have on um >> Dump it.
25:38>> Yeah, I I'm I'll sell it. I'll sell it for >> Attach it attach it to to to Seville and stuff. And
25:44>> I'm I'm sorry, dude. I'm not I'm not giving 31 points, eight receptions, 92 yards, two touchdowns, and a two-point conversion for Justin Jefferson. Sucked
25:53out. I'm sorry.
25:53>> Yeah, I'm vetoing I'm vetoing touchdown.
25:56He got the trash touchdown, but it was awesome. Like full extension, horizontal to the ground, hits the pylon after a toe tap touchdown, after a two-point
26:06conversion. He didn't suck out. He just he just needed he he sucked out in the sense that Kyler Murray got hurt.
26:13>> He's he's the He doesn't have this team with Kyler Murray. I [ __ ] >> I mean, he's the he's the best or the
26:18second best wide receiver in the NFL.
26:20And because people are just so angry about him not being good for fantasy last year, I I just knew he would be I I
26:28had a strong feeling he would be very underowned in this late. And guess what?
26:33That will ne this will never happen again. He will he will now be as owned as St. Brown and Chase every week
26:40basically. I think I would imagine.
26:44>> Yeah. Yeah, >> I don't know. I mean, it depends on the quarterback situation for us.
26:48>> It depends on the quarterback and the game total and everything, but yes, like I I think it will be very rare for us to
26:53load up a slate. Uh Jamar Chase, uh Jamar Chase 27%, St. Brown 20%, Justin Jefferson 8%. I I don't I don't I don't
27:03think so. I maybe maybe you know I I don't know. Um yeah, there were there were six rushing touchdowns in that game
27:10though. Manungai had the bonus and two touchdowns.
27:15Swift had the bonus and three touchdowns. And Caleb ran for two touchdowns. So, so or did Manunga only score one?
27:22>> Manunga had one. 10 for 101. A very a very aesthetically pleasing box score line.
27:29>> Um, okay. So, let's uh uh Nate, give me a lineup to to run through the uh the sim and then tell me
27:37the the field size.
27:39>> Have Sammy go first. I'll do next.
27:41>> Okay. I actually here Sammy text it to me. So I'll pull uh I'll >> this is my uh powers sweep team. I
27:48actually I'm on I'm I'm traveling right now. I'm at a buddy's house.
27:52>> What size What field size is that? Like 1500.
27:57>> I don't know.
27:58>> Let's go 1500. Sure.
28:00>> I think it's like 3,000.
28:02>> Okay. We'll do 3,000 and we'll do top heavy. And that is 150. And you played uh well you were you were smart on this
28:11one brother. You played uh you played you played well you played Ginty.
28:15>> I played Ginty in all my tournament lineups. That's why I'm [ __ ] mad at myself man. It's just like I knew dude I
28:20knew Genti is a boss. Like I knew he's great. Like of course.
28:23>> Now so you did you did the uh the Joe Burrow double which um I mean has got to be O for lifetime on both T and Chase
28:33getting there in the same game. Like literally >> Lean Levitan won a quarter mill with it a couple years ago, you know? It's just
28:39like it's it's happened for people just just not me.
28:43>> All right. Narate narrate this lineup for me please.
28:46>> Uh I mean what is what is the lineup here? Like >> it is Joe Burrow, Ashton Genty, Breeze Hall.
28:52>> Okay.
28:53>> Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, Echa Igbuka as the bring back, Samuel Leaporta, Michael Mayer in the New York Jets defense.
29:01>> Yeah. So, you know, obviously it's a it's a double uh with Burrow and Chase.
29:06And then I thought I would be super underowned. He came in at a little under six% and you know, people are off of him
29:14because the the injury in the offseason, this and that, but I thought he was a great bring back at like that ownership.
29:21So, obviously going all in on this game, uh that didn't work out, but I had uh Genty in this lineup cuz Genti is just a
29:29a [ __ ] beast. And then I had Bree Hall as my other running back. And I just thought Breeze, you know, like he's
29:36that guy that, you know, people don't want Jets.
29:39>> People forget.
29:40>> Yeah. People forget, dude. Bree has all the juice and he works in the passing game. And it was just one of those like
29:47he he did really well. Um I don't think he got the bonus, so he was like a little short there. And then uh I I
29:55played Mayor, but it was a double tight end. So I played Mayor, but then I also played Leaporta. And I thought in this
30:00lineup that didn't have anything from that Saints and Lions game that Leaporta was really good leverage off people really smashing in like Aman Raw and uh
30:11Jir Gibbs. And then I played the Jets, Tennessee is ass, Cam Ward is ass. And I just thought, you know, the little the
30:18little pairing with Bree Hall um I thought was good. The uh the Sims, they don't like it pre-lock uh through the
30:28solver. Anyway, this one had a pretty good like a 50% ROI. So, it was like we're seeing something obviously quite a
30:34bit different here through through this sim.
30:36>> I would assume our projections were just a lot lower on Leaporta. I I would there or because I know um talking to or or
30:48reading like Jack Miller and Mark Dengs tweets that they just have a pretty high base projection on Sam Leaporta. Um, and
30:56I wonder if I wonder if maybe we were a little lower on Burrow or maybe something was different with the the
31:01peons. Maybe our peons were higher on T.
31:05Uh, that that could certainly that could certainly be it. I mean, Ibuka also was not showing up as a as a
31:12huge looking looking at this. I think the issue is actually Bree losing points to the field because so many people were
31:20playing running backs projected four or five points better. you know, you're you're I mean, >> obviously we saw this worked out, but
31:27even Hampton um projected well. Yeah.
31:29And I and and I think uh our stuff was also actually a little bit a little bit lower. On Mayor Nate, what do you have
31:37on uh on this lineup?
31:43>> You're on mute.
31:44>> You're on mute. Roast me, Nate. Come on.
31:46Come on. What's happening?
31:47>> Actually, I don't hate this lineup. I mean, I think what I liked about the lineup is that you took like a common
31:53construction with two tight end and you tried to get different with like Leaporta and Burrow. I don't think most people who went with Leaporta didn't go
32:03with Goff and so I think you probably are more unique there than than I would think, but um like even though they're
32:11chalkier players overall, but yeah, I don't I don't mind it. should just done the Burrow to Gaseki and you know I mean
32:19Burrow obviously the passing game for the Bengals didn't come through today you know Burrow threw for one touchdown Jamar Chase had four targets on 35
32:27attempts I mean I don't know what they were doing schematically but he was like not getting open and at least one of
32:33those was just like a screen but they were like get the ball in this guy's hands like he was getting swallowed up
32:38so in a game with like pretty good amount of scoring and back and forth you know don't don't love to see that from
32:44Jamar Chase probably like a oneweek blip. But >> yeah, he he douched us today, boys.
32:49>> That was so It was insanely tilting, dude. I like actually couldn't believe it.
32:54>> And it was just every drive. Every drive I was just like, "This is going to be it. This is going to be it. This is
32:59going to be it." Was not it.
33:02>> Gazaki.
33:03>> No, it uh it it most certainly it most certainly was uh was not it. um in in frankly in in no way, shape, or form was
33:12uh was was that it at all? Um all right.
33:16I mean, any any other interesting notes to uh to add on your on your lineup, Sammy?
33:23>> Yeah, pull up my I had a burrow lineup in a in a single entry that might be similar. I'd be interested to see how it
33:29sims differently.
33:31>> Uh yes. Okay. Tell me give me your Give me the line. Burrow Burrow Gibbs Bejon Trey Tucker Jamar Chase T. Higgins and
33:40then Mark Andrews Meer Jets D.
33:46>> Mark Andrews.
33:48I think the only Andrews lineup I played was with uh was with Lamar. Uh >> it was the similar thing that I liked.
33:56Yeah, it was the similar thing I liked about Sammy's lineup of like >> Who were who were the other two receivers? Uh
34:02>> Trey and T.
34:06I bet uh I bet I bet our projection of Mark Andrews was like >> nothing.
34:13>> Six points. I I'm gonna I'm gonna What?
34:16What? What? Uh what what what field?
34:20>> 2000. It was the big spy. The 200k spy.
34:23>> So 2000.
34:24>> What was Andrew's >> Sorry. What was Andrew's salary? Was it like high threes?
34:29>> Yeah.
34:30>> Yeah.
34:32>> Yeah. Um, I mean, conceptually, I actually like this lineup less than
34:40Sam's just because Tucker, Mayor, Chalk with Chase Chalk. So, your your differential pieces here are I mean, I I don't think I don't think this lineup is
34:51bad. This is I mean, it's kind of >> wasn't that owned, right?
34:55>> Yeah. I guess I I was thinking he was like 20, but maybe he wasn't.
34:59>> So, that's where that's what Nate's doing. He's essentially like, you know, doing what we were talking about, taking a chalk build and then pivoting, you
35:08know, to Mark Andrews, who's not going to be owned at all. Uh there's a reason why, but he's not going to be owned. But
35:13then taking Bejan, who can like break the slate over other running backs, um you know, if you're doing that and and
35:22the Bengals stat goes off, you're you can eat chalk in other spots.
35:26>> Yes, I I agree. Um post lock, Bejon would sim out. Um, insanely good. Yeah, this >> and that's what I'm trying to do. I
35:35mean, like ultimately you're not trying to get the guy that everybody thinks >> you're trying to flip over the guys that
35:41post lock are going to come in under own. It's >> Yeah. Yeah.
35:45>> So, yeah. Interesting to see what it And this pre-lock.
35:50>> Yeah. Yeah. So, this is all this is all this is all with the peons and everything from from pre-lock. This is
35:55these are not actuals.
35:56>> So, yeah. I bet when it flipped over post lock both Gibbs and Bejon and Chase would sim out better because those guys
36:04came in less than I what did what did you have Gibbs projected for in that?
36:08>> Not not whatever he was. Yeah, 40 43%.
36:13>> And then what was Chase projected at?
36:16>> Uh 31.8%.
36:20>> And then what was Trey?
36:2315% which he was he ended up being >> His too [ __ ] high, man.
36:27>> Yeah. Too [ __ ] high.
36:29>> Jesus Christ.
36:32>> Yeah. Overall, >> did you have any good sweats today?
36:36>> I had one that was like it was a Bryce Young um or I had I had two. I had one
36:42that was a Bryce Young double with Coker and um uh McMillan.
36:48>> Coker.
36:50>> Joker. Yeah. the cokeheads are spinning.
36:53>> And then I had another good one with uh Trevor Lawrence, but it kind of fizzled out with uh I think I
37:01had too much Charger exposure in that one.
37:06>> Yeah, >> man. The [ __ ] Chargers, dude. I can't believe that [ __ ] >> I really, dude, >> the Chargers are so tilting.
37:15Like the Mike McDan, I don't know why I fell for it again. Like Oh, they got Mike McDaniel in his capries and his sandals. Like, it's
37:25going to be like the, you know, 2022 Dolphins all over again or whatever year. I mean, Jesus Christ.
37:31Like, >> honestly, you know what, Marker? I can't. You know what? I can believe it.
37:37I You know what? I actually should change my mind. I can believe it. Justin Herbert is straight up, bro. We talk
37:42about Justin Herbert like he's a [ __ ] baby. He's 30, dude. He's never won a playoff game.
37:48He's not 30, is he?
37:50>> Is he really? No, he's got to be 26. 27.
37:53>> Justin Herbert, age 28 years old. Never won a playoff game.
37:58>> I'm not 30. Jesus.
38:00>> 28's basically 30.
38:02>> 28 might as well be 30.
38:04>> 28 might as well 28.
38:06>> You're in your 30s now, but when you're in your 20s, you're like, dude, that's that's not even close. Dude, I just
38:11realized today I'm like I think I'm like the age now that I that Sammy was when we met him and he was old when we met
38:19and now that's us.
38:20>> This So this happens, man. This happens as you like get older. When you're in your when you're in your 20s, you're
38:27like, dude, people who are 30 plus are in their 30s are old. And then you get in your 30s and you're like, man, people
38:32who are 40 plus, that is [ __ ] old.
38:35Then you get in your 40s and you're like, yeah, 50 is pretty old, man. This is This is I'm in the prime. So, yeah,
38:41it it just keeps going. I'm I'm excited to see what happens in the 50s.
38:46>> Dude, the Chargers play the Raiders next week as like giga favorites again.
38:50>> Oh, let's go, Jenty. We're running it back.
38:52>> Yeah, we're running it back.
38:53>> I'm going right back to the Trey Tucker.
38:59>> I can't >> I'm not I'm I'm not going back to Trey Tucker. That is not happening for me.
39:04>> I will not be going back. I will. I will. I will gladly I will be gladly going back to to mayor though easily
39:11easily back to to Michael Mayer.
39:13>> So Michael Mayor ran 23 routes which on the Raiders was 27. Yeah. So he ran he ran the second
39:25most routes on the Raiders.
39:27>> I can't believe we took Charlie [ __ ] Colar over him in that vest ball. Man, >> I actually don't think we I actually
39:32don't think we did.
39:33>> Oh, really?
39:34I think I believe I believe we got I believe we got sniped on >> that that'll really that'll really make me feel better about my life honestly.
39:41Like Michael Mayer is a dude.
39:43>> Uh I mean I just sent you >> Charger.
39:47>> I just sent you the uh screenshot, didn't I?
39:50>> Yeah. I don't Well, >> not good.
39:54>> Um our tight end room No, sadly our tight end room does does have Charlie Clar on it. Um, you know, people were
40:01people were are asking me like, "Oh, Terrence Ferguson, like are you panicked?" And I'm like, "I you know, it wasn't great that he didn't earn any
40:06routes, but like the whole team was a mess." I I think T Ferg can like still probably get there, like particularly
40:13for best. Colar though, that's not happening, bro.
40:17>> No tight end separated this week other than McBride. I mean, Bowowers is hurt.
40:21Loveland was a legitimate zero and Trey McBride is the only one who did anything. Dallas got 25 points, brother.
40:29Dude, McBride is just I >> That's the biggest takeaway of the week.
40:33Why didn't I just jam McBride? McBride just does this, >> bro. He is the goat. I don't >> I'm like I'm like making all these prize
40:40picks and underdog tickets and Trey McBride is there at 56 and a half yards.
40:44And I'm like, nah. And literally a drive and a half in he's got it. And and I was just like, what am I thinking? I'm like
40:52sweating Chris Bell overs and I'm just like why did I not put Trey McBride in like at 56 and a half? What am I
40:59thinking? What are we thinking? The the reports of his demise I mean people were like oh Coulson Lovelin over Trey McBride and I kind of thought so too. Um
41:10I know it's just one week overreaction maybe but Jesus Christ that looks bad.
41:16>> Kendrick Kendrick Bourne by the way that's going to be real inconvenient truth for Michael Wilson. if you were if you were a Michael Wilson bro.
41:24>> Inconvenient truth for uh Harrison who's just >> he just needs to retire. He just >> talk about a bus. I mean
41:34>> the the one thing it's unreal >> if his dad was like really loved him.
41:40His dad would like drug him and put him in a dungeon and then he'd show up to the game in uniform and play for him and
41:47he'd be way better. Yeah, >> 100%. That's a dad move.
41:52>> All right, everyone. Thank you for watching and listening to the Guildcast.
41:56We will be back with all of you guys next week. Maybe we should do like a listener league or something. Well, no,
42:02we shouldn't do a listener league because we don't want people to know our lineups because then they won't want to watch the show. Um, so never mind. I
42:07completely changed my mind about that.
42:09So, we'll be back again with you next week hopefully featuring no Charger talk. Honestly, if there's any Charger talk, I hope it is. LOL. The Chargers
42:18just got [ __ ] mogged by uh by the the Las Vegas Raiders and and Michael Mayer.
42:24We will uh we'll see you then.