0:00Well, it turns out Mike McCarthy is, depending on how you look at it, either a huge liar or a big trutht teller
0:06because a month ago when Jaylen Warren was playing every snap, he said, "Look, man, we can't be giving him all this
0:12work." Then he has the best game of his life, has 39 fantasy points in a game and the coaches say that Jaylen Warren
0:17will be their quote featured offensive player. And again, depending on your perspective, both of those can be true because Rico Dattle came back and they
0:24said, "Sure, 6040. We target Rico Dattle six times in the passing game. get this great matchup this week against the Cleveland Browns. I would love to play
0:33Jaylen Warren. I I it would it would truly fill me with joy. Um he projects pretty well. I would actually guess that
0:41this gets adjusted down a little bit, but that his ownership also gets adjusted down a little bit. The the thing that keeps Warren potentially in
0:49play for DFS, Jacob, is that uh boy do the Steelers like to throw the ball.
0:53Boy, do they like to to jack up that proe. Um, no no rushing attempts in the red zone. I don't know, man. I'm sick of
1:00Rico Dattle, Jacob.
1:03>> Um, yeah. I mean, Rico definitely has a valuable like flexworthy role, >> but Warren was still quite productive in that game, still has a ton of
1:12opportunities. Uh, I mean they they use their running backs so much both on the ground but also in the passing game
1:20>> that I I think I describe Pittsburgh as like being similar to the Bears or the Rams in terms of like the size of the pie
1:30available for running backs with the notable exception of no touchdowns. You don't get any touchdowns. Um, so that's a problem because ideally you'd like to
1:39have a touchdown or two in there for the backs. But in terms of the usage between the 20s, it's on that level in terms of
1:45how much they're just utilizing these guys over and over again. So a pie can go around. I don't know. Warren's a fine
1:52play. I think my overall concern with this game would be both these teams not the most potent offenses in the first
1:58place. You get the second divisional matchup thesis which usually are lower scoring games. Like this just has a horrible like we're sitting there
2:08doing the ship cast and everyone's like has anyone seen a play from the Steelers Browns game like it's not on red zone
2:14very much. Oh it's 106 like there's 5 minutes left that that's just kind of the vibe I'm getting from this game. So
2:21not like super pumped to play anybody in it. I mean I guess the the the the guy I'm most curious about your thoughts on
2:29is Casey Conpsion. Kevin Conpsion Conpsion. Um, coming off the huge game, I think the first week >> funniest nickname in in fantasy football
2:40history. Kevin Conpsion Conpsion.
2:44>> I mean, I probably played this guy at DFS literally every week until last week. I finally stopped. I was like,
2:49"Enough already." Like, he he ruined my best lineup the week before. And then, of course, he goes off, has the massive
2:56game you had to have him.
2:58Are are you chasing that from last week?
3:01Do you think that was a turning point or was that just kind of the realization of some run bad that he'd had all year
3:08and now we're going to be right back to five yards per target?
3:12>> I would say it's if you had to assign a probability of each of those, the largest part of the probability would be
3:18playing the Titans who are terrible against every level of the field. It would also assign a big amount of probability to when you get targeted as
3:28often as KCC has been targeted, you just are eventually going to have good games.
3:32This is kind of the Jarvis Landry Wandale Robinson, you know, overtime thesis where like yes, you know, you have these guys who are pretty
3:43good at getting open and consistently earn volume, but they do so at lower average depth of target. there. You're gonna have a lot of three for 38s in
3:50there, but then you also open the ability for what KCC have like nine for 120 I think in the end with a
3:56>> 40 yard touchdown drop in there as well.
3:59However, I do think once a player has demonstrated the ceiling, I mean, this is kind of very reductive fantasy football analysis, but I actually think
4:08it's something that people who spend a lot of time thinking about fantasy football should take to heart a little bit more, which is once a guy has a lot
4:18of points in one game, he has like demonstrated the ability to do it. It's like how um uh prior year fantasy points
4:25per game is actually a better predictor of current year fantasy points per game than ADP is which is just like it is
4:32just like you know we have all these thoughts and all these feelings about how guys are going to do and we do all
4:37this data analysis and then it turns out a pretty good predictor of fantasy points is has this guy scored a lot of
4:42fantasy points before.
4:43>> Yeah. And Conpsion to me was actually always the better fit for a bad offense.
4:49If you think about the types of receivers that succeed in bad offenses, how often is it the Boston archetype, you know, how often is it the 13 half a
4:58dot boundary receiver? You know, it's much more often you get the guy who can scam you eight for 84. You know, I mean,
5:05look at Jeremy versaf on the other side um of this game. I I would guess I am probably going to be pretty conpsion
5:14relative to the field just because I don't actually don't think he's going to come with too much ownership this week.
5:20And I thought he was good to to begin with. And the Steelers being so heavy pass rate over expectation does open
5:28this game up to being 17 to 14, but with both quarterbacks throwing it 42 times, which is pretty good for KCC. Mhm.
5:37>> So that's where that's where I think probably the question would be is is Chudkins playable after
5:45>> that I I have little interest in. I mean this is like it's usually we always talk on here about how like modern day DFS
5:53people will play the guys the week after they got like more impressive usage than usual but scored like crap. This might
6:01be the reverse correlary of that with Judkins where his uh scoring output was very positive.
6:09Like 10 years ago, DFS people would be out here to play him. I mean, and my angle would be, you know, despite
6:17scoring quite well. I thought it was kind of a discouraging usage week when you finally get Dylan Samson back, 2024 SEC offensive player of the year, and he
6:26comes back and he has a real role. like not only does he take the passing down stuff that Raheem Sanders was taking,
6:32but he had at least three first and 10 carries, like he was actually just getting to start some series on occasion, they were doing a lot of the
6:39outside runs with him. Um, and it was like a true kind of 1A 1B situation. The snaps were quite close. Samson run ran a
6:47lot more routes and so the role for Judkins was probably worse than expectations even if the score last week was above expectations. My guess is in
6:57in this day and age like everyone is so simrained that that the limitations on the pass game role that Samson presents
7:06will actually be priced into his ownership and people won't just be chasing two touchdowns. So, um that makes me think he'd be like a fine play,
7:13but yeah, not not a not a fantastic play. I don't think the he's going to need 100 a touchdown or he's going to
7:20need two touchdowns cuz I I don't think that the pathway for him to get more than a couple of passes um is that high
7:26with Samson there. Like he ran like nine routes last week.
7:30>> Yes. I I think Judkins is now your your quintessential like I mean this is about how 50% of the running back pool is, but
7:39in any game where he doesn't score a touchdown, he's getting you about 7.6 PBR points. Uh, Fannon, frankly, it bums me out. I do not buy the resurgence from
7:49last week. It it all mostly came on one two two admittedly very very impressive play, but Boston and KCC are just so
7:59good that I think Fannon has now, you know, frankly Fannon is just kind of like uh, you know, kind of Kyle Pittzy
8:06Frier Mouthy. were like, yeah, like completely capable of having good games, but clearly um you know, not a not a high-end elite fantasy football option.
8:14Let's move to the Minnesota Vikings going to play the Detroit Lions. You got Jir Gibbs in what has been the most
8:21difficult matchup of the season for him against the Minnesota Vikings. His ownership projection and actual projection are like significantly lower
8:31than it's been every other time he has been on the main slate.
8:36Salary is also like kind of tough this week. There are not a ton of cheap guys that are projecting like very very well.
8:42And I don't know, is this is this the rare Detroit Lions game that you're just like, "Yeah, man. I I'll probably just
8:48let the field do whatever." Like golf against the Vikings, golf against Flores, like not not for me, boss. And then Kyler against the Lions. I mean,
8:56how bad do you how bad do you want to play Kyler Murray against the Lions? And you're like, man, do I even have the
9:02confidence? Like Kyler has been as a passer honestly like worse than I thought he could be. Like it it's it's been
9:11>> tough. I really really thought >> that KOC could get something out of here. Like I I thought we'd see him be,
9:18you know, top 15 in the NFL and EPA per play. It's not happening, man. It's been It's been tough and it's been very bad
9:24for Jefferson.
9:26>> It's It's been quite bad. And he also does and the issue is their defense has been so ridiculously good that he
9:33doesn't even he doesn't even need to get much out of Kyler like >> they like KC has I think correctly identified
9:41>> you know we really have something with this defense and we don't have much with this offense. So we're going to kind of
9:47play we're going to orient our offense around being a good defensive team. So they're not throwing very much. They're not going for unnecessary fourth downs.
9:55like they're very happy to take field goals, punt the football, take care of the ball, run the ball, and rely on this
10:04defense to create a lot of the turnovers and a lot of the explosives for them because they've been doing that. I mean,
10:09this is a game where uh like I I expect Flores to have a lot of success against the Lions offense. I
10:16think the Lions offense is going to get theirs. They always do. Like if there is going to be a week that the Vikings are
10:22going to have to throw the ball and play more aggressively, it's probably this week where I do think the Lions can at
10:27least put up some points on this defense.
10:31I I mean, yeah, it's it's always a cop out when I say this on the show, but like it probably just comes down to
10:37ownership for me with Kyler and Jefferson. Like if people are like, "Oh, like finally this is this is the Jefferson week. Like I'm excited, you
10:44know, I'm super pumped to do the bounce back." Like I don't really want to pile into a guy who's been so disappointing
10:50at 7100 with a bunch of people following me, but like at at a nice discount in this matchup, I mean, I I definitely
10:58think Justin Jefferson individually is more than capable of having a big day against the Lions. Um, and then on the other side, like
11:07probably the one guy who has struggled the most in these Flores matchups recently is Gibbs. I mean, maybe the Lions will be creative
11:17and they'll find a way around it. Um, that wouldn't surprise me, but typically what the Vikings have done is just every
11:22single time Jamir Gibbs is out there, they just blitz the [ __ ] out of the A gap. Um, and then they keep Gibbs in
11:29pass protection, so he can't get out in a route. He's very vulnerable in pass protection. I mean, they're they used to
11:34then kind of counter by just playing a lot of David Montgomery. They can't do that in this spot. They're going to have
11:39to play Gibbs anyways, but I do think that's going to mute his pass game involvement. And then the way that they
11:45could get around that would be if they do a slide protection instead of keeping the running back in. So if they
11:54get Gibbs on a route, but then they would have to keep a tight end in >> Brock, right?
11:58>> Well, they could do a lot more block right or or it means that they have to keep Sam Laaporta in to block more. So I
12:02I guess what I'm saying is I think that there are structural risks from like a pass protection responsibility standpoint that could affect Gibbs or
12:09Leaporta. Um, and so if I'm going to play under the Lions, I'm probably probably most focused on Jameson or on Amanra. I'd also note that the Vikings
12:20have been really good this year defending the slot, which I think that people It's a little counterintuitive because you would actually think that
12:26you're facing all these blitzes and so you're going to have these hot routes available and so the slot is going to be
12:30like a target eater, but they I think it's just because a lot of these guys are like you don't know who's dropping
12:36where and so they're they're finding ways to get into the slot lanes. like uh the best way typically to beat this
12:41defense is you just kind of have to roll with the punches that you're going to have some negative plays, but they're
12:46taking so many risks that you have to kind of they're going to bring the flamethrower to you, you have to bring
12:50the flamethrower back to them. You have to try and take advantage of the big play opportunities that they're going to give up by having these vulnerable shell
12:56coverages on the back end. So, I like probably the guy I'm most interested in playing is Jameson Williams from the Lion side.
13:05I don't think I'm that into playing Jameson Williams just because I'm generally not that into playing Jameson Williams. And matchupbased reasons to
13:13play Jameson Williams I really have seen go so many ways.
13:17>> I have breaking news on the show.
13:19>> Breaking news. Hit me.
13:20>> The Chicago Bears just traded two first round picks on a fourth round pick for Jeffrey Simmons.
13:27>> Wow.
13:29>> Holy crap. Does that get does that get Josh Downs any closer to playing for the Kansas City Chiefs?
13:34>> I here's here's the thing. I could give so little shits about who is playing for the Chicago Bears defense. I just like I
13:42need this notification from Adam Sheper that Josh DS got traded for a conditional third round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs so bad, Jacob. I need
13:50it. I I need it. Like I need oxygen. If if the Chiefs go into if the Kansas City Chiefs are past the trade deadline and
13:59their 11 personnel, Xavier Worthy, Rashi Rice, Andrew Armstrong, and Travis Kelce, like I that's it, man. I'm done.
14:05I'm out. I'm I'm out. It's not happening. They're going to freaking trade a conditional seventh for Jawan Jennings is what's going to happen. You
14:13know what you honestly? I I think where discussing this game has got me has gotten me to St. Brown as like
14:21legitimately probably like a 6% owned guy here or whatever. And then I guess the other thing we need to discuss is if
14:26no Aaron Jones, do we think Jordan Mason can even catch four passes in this game or is he is he basically the same play
14:34as Judkins where it's just like well did he score once? Did he score twice? Um they used him last year a little bit as
14:41a passing down back when Jones was banged up like very like >> good for Jordan Mason, bad for like a normal running back. However, they do
14:49seem to somewhat believe in DJ Dallas as a passing down back, which is like I mean, how many teams have tried I I
14:56believe this is team number five to use DJ Dallas in in this way.
15:01>> They won't throw to Mason the way that they threw to Aaron Jones. So, he'll project worse and you should project
15:06worse. Like Mason without Jones will project worse than Jones without Mason.
15:10Even though I think actually if both are active, I think Mason will outscore Jones. Um, but he's he he will play so much on early n
15:20downs that he's just going to absorb like a few passes. Like I think I think he'll be more like Judkins with Raheem
15:27Sanders but better than Judkins with Dylan Samson. Like cuz with Sanders like he was only playing the strict pass downs, but Judkins was playing
15:36everything else and he was able to absorb, you know, three, four, five passes on occasion. Um whereas Samson now gives him another back they actually
15:43want to use with some intent. Like I I don't think that they're going to do that with Dallas or anything. So I think
15:48Mason would be 5700. I think he'd be a fine play.
15:53>> Yeah, I think I could I think I could probably talk myself think I could probably talk myself into that one. All
15:58right. Uh the Las Vegas Raiders at the New York Jets. I I'm just going to go ahead and get this out of the way now. I
16:04I you I either need you to talk me into or out of $6,700 Ashen Genty against the New York Football Jets as my gold star
16:13play. The rushing efficiency has been so bad, but the passing game stuff has still been there for him. He's down at
16:206,700. He's still getting goal line stuff. Mike Washington Jr. has alternated between looking way better than Ashton Genty and then not playing,
16:30which is just kind of like a really interesting dichotomy. But uh there there was a couple things going on with Gent. So the first being an
16:36acknowledgement from him and the team that the run fits have been terrible that like the SK that there's been scheming issue which I thought was
16:44pretty interesting. And then also a real you better back this up moment from Mr.
16:48Ji as well where he said yeah a couple of these Jets guys they don't look like they want to tackle. I don't want to
16:54name any names but they just look like they don't want to tackle any running backs. So um one reduced price two very
17:01good matchup. I mean, we just had Olly Gordon look like Eric Dickerson against this defense. Literally, Ole Gordon was the running back one last week of the
17:08slate. How about that?
17:11>> Met completely insane. Ollie Gordon running back against >> against this defense. Um >> not really that low scoring with slate.
17:18He didn't have that. He had like 264.
17:21Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one No, it it was Yeah, it was like a really low scoring slate. Um >> Yeah. I I I you I need you to either
17:29compel me into or out of this choice.
17:33Um, neither. I think I'm more I'm more with you than against you. Like I'm inclined to be in on Ashton Shanty. The
17:40ceiling from a DFS perspective just seems a little gross based on fact that like he's going to have like 30 yards
17:47rushing. Um, so like the the the pass game stuff is amazing for keeping his floor up, but I I do think the ceiling
17:54is a little bit tough. I I I would love to believe that he could have 80 to 100 yards rushing in this game. I just have
18:00seen nothing from the Raiders run game to support that. But it's certainly a great matchup and I mean if he does like
18:06then you're off to the races because he he's pretty locked into like 10 to 12 just as a receiver. So yeah, I'm I I I'm
18:16certainly like I don't know if I'm going to gold star play him, but I'm I'm definitely more with you than I am
18:21against you. That's for sure.
18:23>> Yeah. I mean maybe maybe I can't make it maybe I can't make it the gold star play. I would just say I am.
18:29>> No, do it. Do it. Stand by.
18:31>> I I gotta think. I mean know I mean we got we got a lot. This is this is only our third game. Um and then on the other
18:37side I mean do we think Bree is finally going to play a football game or is this like week number four of Braille and
18:43Allen just being like a gig when we when we get there?
18:48>> No, I think he's going to play a football game. Uh yeah, definitely think Reese will play this week. I'm guessing
18:55I'm I'm guessing it's going to be honestly pretty close to 50/50.
18:59>> Yeah.
19:00>> Which makes which makes them both unplayable from a DFS perspective?
19:02>> Completely completely unplayable.
19:05>> Where would you would you like for like reddraft stuff? Would you use Brilin as like a flex play in this spot against
19:11the Raiders?
19:12>> I think it's fine to like I I would if you have Brilan and you don't love your options like I think you can get away
19:19with starting him. I I certainly like I don't know. I don't do weekly rankings.
19:24I I would guess that I would have both these guys ranked like between RB 22 and RB28.
19:32>> That sounds about I think I'll probably be a little bit higher on Bree just because I expect him to get a lot of the
19:37passing down work. Although I mean the the Jets passing game this is insane.
19:42Their 11 personnel is like unbelievable now that Omar Cooper Jr. looks good. you know, being able to play Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper Jr., Adnai Mitchell, Mason
19:50Taylor or Kenyan >> one dragon going like this.
19:54>> Yeah.
19:58>> Hey, you need to you need to respect you need to respect your goat. Ad Mitchell, >> he is not my goat. Ad
20:06my goat.
20:07>> Yeah, he most certainly is not your goat. I mean, AD Mitchell is so uh 80 Mitchell favorite players in the league.
20:14If AD Mitchell was on the Bills, he'd be at like a top 13 receiver in fantasy football, I fear.
20:20>> No, he he wouldn't. He can't complete plays. All he does is draw targets.
20:27>> Well, that's the hard part.
20:29>> Everything Everything No, everything that happens after drawing the target is none of my business.
20:33>> Oh my god.
20:36>> That's good.
20:38>> Will Will Omar Cooper Jr. or Conpsion be more owned? And who scores more fantasy points this week? Omar Cooper Jr. versus
20:45Casey Conpsion. More points.
20:49>> Um, I'll say that Conpsion has more points.
20:53I think that this is the >> I think this is Garrett Wilson has been like around the facility telling the Jets like if you don't give me 10
21:02targets this week, like literally trade me. Like I like >> trade me. Yeah.
21:07>> Like I'm like if he's like I'm going to commit like a hate crime in this built at one Jets place or whatever if um if
21:15if I don't get 10 targets this week like make sure I get 10 targets this week.
21:18You don't want to know what happens if I don't. Um so I think I think he's going to get fed this week. Uh and he's going
21:25to take care of his statline and so that that makes me lean towards owns traded to the Kansas City football chiefs for a first round pick. that
21:35rules. I'm in on that. I don't think it's happening, though. Uh I don't think it's gonna get fed.
21:42>> I might go as far to say Garrett Wilson is my gold star play. I I reserve the right to amend that later as we get
21:48through the program, but I think that's going to be my gold star play. 6,300 Garrett Wilson coming off two duds, known diva, wide receiver, going to want
21:56targets in on that.
21:58>> Yeah. Uh I'm going to guess you are going to want to amend that. Um just because th this game I mean the these
22:04are two teams that really would like to run the ball a lot. 45 and a half point total. It's it's um
22:09>> 45 is not that bad.
22:11>> I was going to say 45 and a half. Well, compare it to the next game. So this is the game we're going have to spend a lot
22:15of time figuring out. This game Baltimore >> Raven I can't make my gold star play a player in this game. Like Zar is going
22:22to be in everybody's lineup, right?
22:23>> No. No, you most certainly could because I actually don't think either one of the quarterbacks either Josh or Lamar will
22:29get owned that much. I mean, Lamar more than Josh, but just the way DFS goes now, people will actually probably more
22:35likely play a Jacobe, a Dak, something like that instead. Yeah. Now, now Flowers, I I mean, we could we could press
22:43>> my lineups start with Z Flowers. I I just >> I don't I don't know how many lineups I'm doing this week.
22:49>> It could be one, it could be five, it could be 10, it could be hundred. I'm not making one without Z Flowers.
22:55>> Yeah. Look, I I have absolutely I have absolutely no issue with that. I think Z Flowers is probably the best like
23:01convergence of price projection thing holding his price down that was not his fault that has now been remedied game
23:11like I I he should be the most owned player of the slate. I think I think we'll get there.
23:19>> He has played four quarters at full health with Lamar Jackson. He played the first two quarters against Indie and then he missed week two. Week three he
23:30was playing limited snaps throughout and then week four he played a half with Lamar and then Lamar got hurt. In the
23:35four healthy quarters that they've played together, 15 catches, 268 yards, two touchdowns. So that's your median this week.
23:44>> I'm Yeah, I'm I'm with you. Yeah, just getting to like what, like 42 points just kind of as like Yeah, it's like ah
23:50well if he doesn't get 40 >> I just I just feel like as good as Z Flowers has been this year, we've been
23:57robbed of it being even better because he got hurt and then Lamar got hurt and like he's done Yman's work with Tyler
24:05Huntley to survive us to this point. I I just want to get paid off with the like averaging 30 points per game Z Flowers
24:13season the rest of the way that I feel like I've been promised.
24:17And I think you're going to get it. What would be interesting for this game though is on the Bills side of the ball,
24:23they also are uh playing in this game, right? DJ Moore won't be owned. Shakir won't be owned. Concincaid will not be
24:32owned. James Cook really, I mean, he'll get some ownership, but I think he'll be significantly less owned than Derk Henry. I mean, I guess I guess here's
24:40how here's how me as a middle IQ person would like to play this game, I would imagine. Here's your here's your
24:47strategy. All right, dude. I start with Josh Allen. No one will have Josh, dude.
24:51Then I'll put flowers in. Then I'll play $5,300 Dolphin Concade. Did you know he had a touchdown called back by penalty
24:59last week? Did you know, dude? Actually, his highest RA participation of the season came before the buy. And my friend Jacob Sanderson actually let me
25:08know that spiritually >> DJ Moore >> might actually be good for Dade. Create some space for Dalton and Jacobe Lane.
25:17$3,400 Jacobe Lane. Uh quite quite a good play.
25:20>> There's a lot of plays I like in this game. Obviously I I already talked about Flowers. I love him. I agree. I think
25:26concade is a like I don't think he's a wellpriced play necessarily, but I think he's a fun play whose price will protect
25:32him from ownership and I think he has a lot of upside here. Uh Lane super fun play at 3,400 with Lamar back and like
25:42you know all time not my guy but I think DJ Moore is a totally fun play at 5700 probable shootout game should be back to
25:49health. Like yeah there's a lot of guys I like in this game. I mean, it's it's going to be a highscoring game. It's
25:54projected to be. Um, but yeah, there's there's a lot of dudes. I don't think you like need to play the quarterbacks
26:00either. You certainly can. Um, but I I think if you you can dabble into this with various like many correlations, one
26:08from one side, one from the other, and and have a good time. I'll I'll certainly be playing this game.
26:12>> All right. Absolutely. Have to you you you can't opt out of this question. You have to answer one crappy bill to go
26:18with Josh Allen. So, it can't be James Cook. one one crap fell.
26:23>> You got to choose who are you playing.
26:24>> So I So I can't pick DJ Moore. Is he too good?
26:27>> No. No, you can. None of these guys will be 10% owned. I mean, maybe maybe if uh >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm conceded. I I
26:35think I'm conceded for my crappy bill.
26:37>> Um >> like the the thing with these it just feels like Moore is going to struggle with this shoulder injury all year. I I
26:46don't know how you feel about that, but it like it just I I just kind of getting queasy about about DJ Moore.
26:52>> Fair enough.
26:53>> Yeah. Um All right, Derek Henry, how how are are you into playing Oh, this is kind of a fun strategy.
27:01>> 7200 Henry is is like I'm feeling something with that.
27:05>> Well, you do your Dallas Arizona stack, right? And then your only piece from this game is Derrick Henry. And you say
27:11Derrick Henry sucks all the joy and fun.
27:14All the Z Flowers people are just watching the king rumble and bumble for four tuds.
27:20>> I got to get I haven't built any lineups yet. I got to like I got to get in the lab and figure out because
27:27how I'm trying to like I I'm kind of inclined to play Flowers and Henry together, but if you do that then you
27:32might as well play Lamar. But then like can you afford that?
27:35>> I think you can. I think you can do that. What does the lineup look like with all three of them?
27:39>> You can do that with or without Lamar.
27:41It probably sims a little bit better with Lamar, but there are there are ways there are ways for it to be done.
27:46>> Yeah. Um, very very good game. Uh, your team, the Indianapolis Colts against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Parker Washington >> 6,500. Belle Tutin 5900. I actually
27:58think Tutin is one of the more interesting guys of this slate because the usage >> going to be crazy, doesn't he? 50
28:06against this Colts.
28:07>> So, the usage prior to the last international game was really really good. Then he cashes in two touchdowns, has a third one called back by penalty,
28:16but that was actually the most that Chris Rodriguez Jr. had played all year.
28:20Like it was it was Crod's best game as well. Now, that might just be like matchup weirdness that you know.
28:26>> I think it was just I think it was just a literal hot hand thing. Like I think Crod got I mean he still but even as
28:32Jude was getting this great usage Crod was still getting some carries but usually it was like the second quarter they'd give C-rod a series and he would
28:38like have like two yards or another two yards and they like all right get him out of here get to back in. And then
28:43this last game he just he just started cooking like they got Crod in started rumbling and bumbling. He was ripping off chunks and reasonably I think Con
28:52was like, "Oh, sweet." Like Crod's got it. Like he's he's doing some stuff.
28:56Let's let's feed him. And most of his work was in that second quarter where they just kind of kept feeding him while
29:01he was really hot. And then in the second half, they went back to mostly tune stuff. I I I view that as not being
29:08that predictive. I think it was just kind of like C-rod really got cooking for a while there and they leaned into
29:12it. Um, and that could happen again in a future game, but I don't think it's like the plan to go back to a 5050,
29:18especially because Tuton played so well in South and was able to score the two touchdowns that I think like maybe there
29:23was a chance for Crod to turn this back towards a time share. I I think Ton kind of shut the door on that personally.
29:31>> Yeah, I think you're right. And I would like to also apply the gold star nomenclature to Belle Tutin. I don't
29:41think it's fair if he's going to be the one of the most known running backs of this late. Now, if he is a little bit
29:46closer to 11, even 15%, I think it would be fine to do that. However, I would like to extend on top of that and say,
29:54well, if I'm not allowed to do it to Tootton, boy, would I like to do it for one Mr. Parker Washington, who I think
30:00even in the most >> Jaguar, Smith, and Jigba time frame, I I don't actually think anyone thought he would be this good. Like I don't think
30:11anyone thought he'd be the type of guy who would drop six.
30:14>> He's scored as many points as he >> he So he hasn't >> It's kind of funny like the explosions have kind of been like he's exploded for
30:23like a half >> and then done nothing in the other half or done nothing in the first half and then exploded late.
30:29>> What I'm saying is that I very much think one of these times we are just going to get a true Jaguar, Smith, and
30:35Jig. But like this dude has 37 and it's the third quarter >> type game. Um, I like I think he's that good, right? Is
30:43is what I'm saying. Like I I very much I very much think he is that good. Uh, and I don't think he will be particularly
30:50owned here. I think though he's going to be so much own I I really don't. Yeah.
30:53If you look at the overall way the wide receivers are priced, he doesn't like obviously I'm not saying he's going to
30:59be unowned. That would be preposterous.
31:01But I don't think he is like an absolute um >> I I just don't think he's going to get like mega jammed or anything like that.
31:08I think he'll be kind of kind of, you know, normal normal owned at uh >> as we progress into this, I'm getting
31:15increasingly uh less interested in playing Justin Jefferson. I was like on the fence about that, but I'm like I really want to play
31:22Garrett, who I think is going to be not owned um and have a fun spot at 6300. I >> like I'm just not building a lineup
31:30without Z Flowers. He's just in every lineup. And then like Parker is in this range and I think he is a play that I'm
31:36more excited about than Justin Jefferson. So that's already that's already like three 6K to 7.2K wide receivers that I'm probably more into playing. And then
31:47Moore is down to 5700, but I I like that play, too. So I'm I'm I'm finding no trouble finding receivers I want to get
31:54in a lot of lineups this week. I like Parker, obviously Toutin. Um, I I agree with you that I think the Jaguars are
32:01due for a blowup spot. We did a really fun show last night. I think it'll be up today. Um, Gretch and I were on Beyond
32:08the Box score with Heath and Jacob Gibbs and we just drafted the rest of the season. We like alternated picks and we
32:13did got through eight rounds and at one point we had taken Tudin and Washington and they were the lowest scoring two
32:19players in points per game this season that we had drafted and it was like it feels like they've been a lot better
32:24than they are but we were we were taking them obviously way above kind of their station and so we're we're predicting
32:30that positive regression um and the chance for them to be like 18 to 20 points per game players over the second
32:35half of the season. I I definitely think it's in the cards.
32:39>> It's definitely in the cards. I mean, I would just say looking at the ownership projections as a whole, like yeah, we
32:43haven't even gotten to Dallas, Arizona yet. So, in terms of like ownership siphoning, so Parker Washington very very firmly uh in in play for for a gold
32:54star and then and Brenton Strange if you wanted I tell you what, Jacobe Meyers if like isn't isn't Brian Thomas Jr. just
33:02not gonna play like like are like aren't they just going to healthy scratch him and say, "Hey man, someone come trade a
33:08a fourth round pick for this guy." What a weird weird career Brian Thomas Jr.
33:13has had. I I I can find no real analoges for this where so much of his production came with a backup quarterback and the
33:22team just like pretty immediately was over him. like basically like a month into his rookie se or his second year, the team was like, "Yeah, this isn't
33:31really this is not going how we wanted it to go." Just like very strange like not even like a Michael Clayton style
33:38thing or or whatever where >> Yeah.
33:41>> he got in. Yeah. I don't I just I I don't know what's going on with him.
33:46>> Yeah. It's uh it's been bizarre. I mean, it's it's been it's been odd. Um Yeah. I I think the only guys I want to play are
33:56Parker and Toten from this whole game.
33:58Oh, Strange. Certainly don't want to play any Colts.
34:01>> No. No. Jags D. Good play. Jags D.
34:04>> Jags D. Great play. Great play. I was doing some big bids on the Jags D this week.
34:09>> I I was I was >> I guess you could play Keenan.
34:14>> Um Okay. You I guess you could. Yeah. If Warren doesn't play, >> but if $4,500 Kenan Yeah. Even if he
34:22does, who cares? Uh, the Tennessee Titans playing against the Cincinnati Bengals. All right, here's my >> the Jeffrey Simmons list Titans going
34:30against Brown here.
34:31>> The Jeffrey Simmons list Titans. All right, let me let me give you my my hot take of the week.
34:36>> Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase has been in Joe Bau's ear and he's saying, "Buddy, this ain't working for me. You were [ __ ]
34:43you were [ __ ] with my numbers, Joe.
34:45We got to get We're We are playing the Tennessee Titans and I have >> Well, he I think I believe he has 312
34:51receiving yards on the season.
34:53>> Uh do we think that Jamar Chase can just double his season total in receiving yards in this game against the
34:58Tennessee? If they went into this game and they said, "We want to see if it's possible to double your season receiving
35:04yards in this game. Could they do it?" I think the answer to that is yes.
35:08>> Yeah, I think it's a good spot for Chase for sure. Like there's been a lot of talk of, you know, is T. Higgins, a new
35:14wide receiver, one in town. Um, Chase hasn't had a 100 yard game yet this year. He's still been scoring at an okay
35:21rate. Um, outside of the concussion game just because he scored so many touchdowns, but yeah, maybe this is the ultimate diva wide receiver spot. Um, I
35:32think because like I guess I mean the Bengals have a massive team total, but I don't know like how anxious I you have a ton of
35:42projected ownership on this right now.
35:43I'm curious to see what it actually comes in because I I just think like Flowers is such a blowup spot. Um, and
35:50there's like a lot of fun mid-pric receivers. Are people going to be pumped to do Bengals passing game stacks if they think they're just going to blow
35:57Tennessee out of the water? Like I I actually think in this day and age DFS the like, you know what everyone's going
36:04to be really excited to do is play the player who scored like 12 points per game all year and just pile in $6,300
36:09Chase Brown based on >> You know what? You're so right. And actually, I'm here now that we've now we've gotten through. [ __ ] Ashen Genty.
36:17Parker Washington. Gold star Jamar Chase. There's no world where Jamar Chase is okay with T. Higgins sunning him this bad. I'm sorry. I I'm sure I'm
36:28sure Jamar Chase and T. Higgins have legitimate love for one another. But I also know that Jamar Chase has that strain of being a superstar wide
36:35receiver where you know what he does after a game? He goes and looks at the stat sheet and he says, "How many yards
36:40did I have? Sure, he does. I think he's aware of the stat sheet as he's playing >> as he No, he literally he probably has a
36:47trainer on the sideline whose job is to say, "This is how many yards you have.
36:51This is how many more you need for 100 yards." I I'm being so for real. I think Smart Chase snatches his chain back
36:57predicting a final statline. Eight receptions, 144 yards, two touchdowns, and everyone who plays $6,300 Chase Brown thinking they're so smart gets 11
37:07fantasy points. And I hope you guys all really enjoy those 11 fantasy points.
37:12>> Yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited about this about this chase spot the more that we talk about this. It it they can do what
37:18they can score points however they wish to score points against the Tennessee Titans. And I think that they would wish to score them via Jamar Chase as much as
37:25possible. That just they they got to get him roll. They got to get him a big play. They got to get him on a post
37:30route. They got to get the gritty going.
37:32Get the vibes up. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you on this.
37:37They do. They do need to get the vibes up. And I don't think the I don't think your vibe on P like with Chase. I
37:45certainly would believe there's organizational pressure to get him his numbers. You know, this team does not care how Chase Brown feels, man.
37:52>> Well, he's not under contract next year.
37:53If anything, they want to keep they want to wage suppress him.
37:56>> Yes. Like literally, if anything, they're like, "Hey, Taj Boyd, you want to get your first NFL touchdown against the Tennessee Titans? Come on in,
38:02brother."
38:03>> Taj Boyd. Clemson. Clemson. Great. Taj Boyd.
38:08>> Wait, >> you said Taj Boyd instead of Taj Brooks.
38:10>> Taj Boyd. The old the old quarterback.
38:12>> Taj Boyd played for Clemson like way back like 15 years ago.
38:16>> Yes.
38:16>> And was on the Jets for a while as well.
38:19>> And the Montreal Alowettes.
38:21>> Taj Brooks, Texas Tech.
38:24>> Yeah. Yeah.
38:26>> Okay. All right. There we go. Uh the Atlanta Falcons playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 45 and a half total here.
38:33Very odd stuff.
38:35for Bejian Robinson only averaging 7.1 fantasy points per game as a pass.
38:41>> What happened to the people that were that were victory lapping that he should have gone ahead of Jamir Gibbs after he
38:45was having like games where he scored less than Jamir Gibbs?
38:50>> Um it's a good it's a good question.
38:53>> Those people have been quiet lately.
38:55>> A lot of a lot of a lot of football a lot of football left to play. Um, yeah.
39:00I mean, look, if you ever wanted to play Bejon Robinson as a as a lowowned hammer, I mean, you you most certainly
39:06will have the opportunity to do it this week because you've got Brown, the the aforementioned Brown, Belle Tutin, Javante Gibbs. There's a chance that
39:15Bejian is like the seventh most owned running back um of the entire slate.
39:20Now, which is not even to say that I think you should jam him in. Um the usage has been very good obviously, but
39:26I What is up with the passing game usage? Why? Why? Why would they not be making more of an effort to pass him the
39:31ball?
39:32>> It's It's bizarre, that's for sure. Um I I mean, Bejian's a totally fine play and anytime you get one of the best players
39:41in the NFL at reduced ownership, I think is a worthwhile play. I I think I probably have so many mid to highriced
39:49wide receivers that I'm excited about playing this week. Chase, Flowers, Parker Washington, Garrett Wilson, potentially Justin Jefferson. Um, probably some more that we'll get to. I
40:00talked about J Mo. Um, like I I think I'm probably just going to be spending down at running back. I think I'm
40:05probably going to be more like putting Tuton in, maybe Chase Brown, maybe Bucky Irving. Um, I'm probably not going to be
40:14doing as much of the $8,500 Bejon. I mean, I I might play 7K London. like this would be another mid to high price
40:21wide receiver that looks really appetizing to me. Um but pro probably like yeah pro probably not going to have room for Bejon in terms of what I want
40:31to do but really great play and then Bucky is probably what I want to be doing. I continue to be really excited
40:37about this role. I also think that the passing game role is bound to perk back up with Baker Mayfield. It didn't last
40:44week he got two targets. They had 11 drop backs.
40:4611.
40:47>> Scale that out. Two targets, not so bad on 11 drop backs. Um I'm I'm overall um I think how much of the rushing work
40:56he's consolidated. The potential to see five, six targets in a game where Baker Mayfield is back and they actually have to drop back 30 times instead of 11. Um
41:03pretty exciting to me. I'm I'm I'm very pumped up for Buckyy's second half and then I don't know. We'll see beyond that
41:10if there's anything in this game. Does 5,800 mecha interest you? Do you want 16 targets for 48 yards?
41:16>> No, dude. I'm actually I'm actually um like so over achuka. What are What is your What is your thoughts on that? Like
41:24I just I I think >> I've never liked this guy. So >> yeah, I just I just think I'm ready to
41:30say he's he's not very good. I think >> I mean he's like fine. I just think he has no juice.
41:37Maybe maybe that's more now I tell you the more interesting thing which would be what happens if he doesn't play. What
41:45happens if we literally run back the same thing from last week where Kate Dotton and Ted Hurst are in every um you
41:53know every projected optimal lineup.
41:55They they got small price increases. So Kate Dotton is now 3,400. Ted Urst is 3,800. TZ Johnson also ran uh basically
42:04the same amount of routes. Now again, poison the well with the 11 drop back sample. So it's kind of hard to say.
42:11>> Honestly, I think I'd probably run it back. I think I I think I would probably just run it back, man.
42:17>> Yeah, maybe. We'll see what the ownership is. I mean, I'd rather play Jacobe Lane than Ted Hurst.
42:23>> I would also rather play Jacobe Lane than Ted Hurst. But >> I mean, we do need >> cheap plays this week, right? There are
42:31a lot of expensive. Like I just said I wanted to play Jamar Chase. I mean, he's not even in either of the two games of
42:35the week, you know, >> so you got to you got to find someone cheap. What about what about I mean, how
42:41did you not lead with Kenny Gainwell potentially not playing in your your goat respecting your game, Bucky?
42:48>> Is he Is he actually at risk?
42:51>> I He did not practice. He He He did not practice Wednesday.
42:55>> Hip. Oh, well, that's fun. Um, I mean, I think that he's barely playing anyway, so I don't really care.
43:04>> He got a lot of carries last week, but that was like a classic case of they gave Bucky literally 10 carries on the
43:10first drive, and I think they were like, "Whoa, okay, well, we don't want to give him 45 touches, so we got to mix in
43:15gain." Well, like Bucky sold 17 carries and two targets at halftime, and then it got to garbage time in the second half.
43:20And so, I saw some people like commenting on like, "It's back to a split." It's like, well, yeah, if a team
43:28If a team runs the ball 45 times, like they're going to have to split the work.
43:32It's not going to be it's not going to be 35 carries for 190 pound Bucky Irving, but he still had 24 of them. So,
43:38I'm personally okay with it. Um, I don't think that like that percentage scales down. Two weeks ago, he had 61 snaps out
43:46of 73. Um, but that'd be even better for the pass game stuff, right? I mean, Sean Tucker might take some like short
43:52yardage goal line reps. We've seen that like at the literal one yard line. I'm sure he'll take a few early down carries
43:58if Kenny Gwell doesn't play, but yeah, if we can get like locked in, you know, two-minute drill, more of the third down
44:05passing stuff, I'm I'm all in on that.
44:07So, that's that sounds great. Everything Everything's coming up Bucky lately. I'm I'm happy to see it.
44:14>> Lot of options. Maybe this keeps Toutin from actually getting that own because there are so many options in that sort
44:19of $5500 to $6,500 range. All right, the second game of the year. Gainwell was also one of Jeremy Fowler's top 25 trade
44:27candidates, by the way.
44:29>> Who's trading for Kenny Gainwell on that contract?
44:32>> What What is the possible market there?
44:35>> Can he play wide receiver? Does he want to be a Does he want to be a wide receiver for the Chiefs?
44:42>> Can the Chiefs trade for Michael Wilson?
44:44Is Kendrick Borne available? Does Kendrick Borne want to play for the Kansas City Chiefs? It's so dire. I can never >> Allen would play for the Kansas City
44:52Chiefs.
44:53I'll trade a third. You guys, you can have a third and get him Get him on my team, bro. I can't I can't watch I I
45:00can't watch like Noah Gray be a critical feat to the Kansas City Chiefs offense anymore. It was so >> Did you see that snaps from Andrew
45:07Armstrong?
45:08>> I did. I did. That that Seattle game was a worse Nadier than losing to the Chargers and Mahomes tearing his ACL. Like truly, it was
45:20worse than that. It it was unbearable.
45:25The Dallas Cowboys are playing the Arizona Cardinals with a 54 and a half total. Dak is 6,300. Jacobe is 5700
45:35because Michael Wilson has done nothing >> since Marvin Harrison Jr.'s been traded.
45:42He is only 6,200. If Jeremiah Love finds a way to play in this game, he is 5,400.
45:48Bourne is 3,900. I mean, >> yeah, >> dude. There's a potential fantasy bonanza in in this game.
45:56>> What is the love ownership going to be?
45:59>> Is that the most important question of the week?
46:01>> Zero. Z. No one.
46:03>> No, it's not going to be zero. It's not going to be zero. 5,400. It's not going to be zero.
46:07>> No one's playing this guy. I promise you. Promise.
46:10>> Okay, I'll I'll choose to believe your pro. If that's If that's true, then screw Garrett Wilson. That's my gold star play. You're telling me that that
46:18Jeremiah Love third overall pick at $5,400 in a game with a 54 and a half total. People aren't going to be
46:25interested in that. I think people will be interested in that.
46:28>> He will he will max out. He will he will absolutely max out at like 6.7%.
46:36>> I think he could be like 20.
46:39>> There's no world. There's no world. How could he possibly How could he possibly be 20 >> in the like in the spy?
46:49>> I mean, maybe he could get to 10. Maybe he could get to 10.
46:52>> Okay. I don't any of these numbers. 6 10 100 for me.
46:57>> Because what? Alier's questionable, right? So, he's >> I don't give a I don't give a crap if Alier plays or not. He can't beat out
47:02Bam Knight.
47:03>> If If Alier gets ruled out, maybe that gets him to 12 still. Probably not even though.
47:09>> Please don't rule out Tyler Algier.
47:10Please don't tell.
47:11>> It's an afternoon. It's an afternoon game anyway. So >> I want I need Alier in cuz like I that so doesn't matter to me cuz like
47:18whatever like Alier.
47:20>> So So break this down to me. Is your >> Someone asked me for some copium on Jeremiah Love the other day and I was
47:25like well essentially >> it's pretty easy which is >> cope. Well, you do need to cope because he's been terrible. But I will I will
47:33give you the copium, which is that his two ankles were really hurting and now theoretically they should not be hurting anymore and has the lead back.
47:41>> Yeah, he's a third overall pick. He's amazing at football. He got hurt. Now he's healthy. He's playing in a game
47:45with 54 and a half total. He's going to have 25 points this week.
47:51>> You think that many?
47:53>> Maybe 35. I don't know. We'll see how high we can get.
47:58I I'm worried. Well, so I am obviously worried that Jeremiah loves having a little bit of a Ashen Genty style rookie
48:06year where he like looks pretty good but just has nowhere to go. That that issue gets solved against the Cowboys though
48:12the same way that it got solved for Genty last year against the Bears.
48:16>> So many places to go against the Cowboys.
48:19>> So many lot of space.
48:20>> All the places you'll go. a lot of lot of wide open a lot of wide open prairie for running backs to move from my love.
48:28You know what >> Damen Pierce like people like the the broadcast was saying like man I've been impressed with this Damen Pierce guy. I
48:34was like are you? Cuz like that's not the same Damen Pierce I'm watching but like there's there's a lot of wide open
48:39room I guess like even if you're Damen Pierce you can kind of hit four yards a carry against this Dallas defense.
48:47>> Well, can I interest you in Michael Wilson against the this same defense?
48:50Yeah, of course you can. Yeah, I I I I love expected fantasy points that never turn into real fantasy points.
48:55>> Well, who's the Okay, so who is the better play, assuming both of them are are not particularly owned?
49:02>> Yeah, man. I don't know, man. I I think I think I could get to I think I could get to to some Michael Wilson here in in
49:08this slate. Like quite a bit of it, actually.
49:12>> Lava is going to be the highest scoring running back on the slate and he's going to be the cheapest playable running
49:16back.
49:17I mean, Jacob, if you're right about this, it's going to be like an alltimer because you're not going to be holding
49:24hands with anybody.
49:27>> He's the button is locked on Jeremiah Love.
49:31>> All right.
49:32>> More locked.
49:32>> I I love it and I support it.
49:34>> If we get to Sunday morning and ETR is projecting his ownership at 10 or under, I'm playing more DFS lineups that I've
49:41played all year just to get more Jeremiah Love lineups.
49:45>> I think you'll get it. I think you'll get it. Now, >> I pray.
49:48>> Now, can I interest you in one Mr.
49:51George Pickins or or is he just has he shown that he's just a CD Lamb off the field back up?
49:57>> Yeah, like a a total CD Lamb off the- field merchant.
50:02>> Yeah, I like probably a It's probably a decent play, but I'm the vibes don't seem great with with Pickkins. I would
50:13probably >> I certainly do not.
50:16>> Yeah, I'm probably more interested in just spending up for a lamb. I mean, like if you're spending down to 5,400
50:21love, then like you can probably get the lamb. And then the guy who also is like completely playable is Ryan Florenoi.
50:30>> Uh I don't know, man. Ryan Florenoi. $4,600 Ryan Florenoi. I'm probably good on that. I'm probably good on He
50:40>> He's fine. I just like I I would rather play I honestly would rather play Bourne. Truly, I would rather play
50:47Kendrick Bourne. Neither of whom will will really be out. Great price great pricing from DraftKings keeping Jake Ferguson at $4,100 as he is like 30
50:56$3,200 Jake Ferguson.
50:59>> Like maybe maybe I could talk myself into $3,200 Jake Ferguson. No world where I'm talking myself into $4,100.
51:07has just taken the Jake Ferguson role.
51:10Like it's just they he's the third pass catcher now. He does like kind of the underneath stuff, but he also will
51:15actually get some downfield stuff. But yeah, he's he's basically this the tight end and then they've just stopped throwing to tight ends.
51:22>> Yeah. So let's assume like Okay, let's assume Alier gets ruled out early.
51:31Like let's say he doesn't practice today >> and he's and he's ruled out.
51:36What I'm curious about more so than the Jeremiah Love ownership is is Brousette because he's 5700 and it just feels like
51:45if he grinds to 21 and I guess we haven't even mentioned Trey McBride. I mean in the context of this like McBride
51:50actually kind of hard to play because you do just like >> hard to play. He's been like lowowned the last few slates because he's so
51:56expensive at tight end and there's so much value at that position.
52:01>> There is so much value at the position.
52:03I it's honestly been like the Sims have been giving a lot of like obviously like two tight end lineups and neither of
52:08them have been expensive ones. So I will say I mean talking through like wanting to play these guys like I do like
52:14Michael Wilson more than McBride and I think I like Chase more than Lamb given like actually I I would say Lamb and
52:24Flowers >> Lamb and Flowers are going to hold hands to be the most owned wide receivers this late. I don't know which one will be
52:32which. It' be too early to tell. But I I think I've got a slight preference for Chase over Lamb given the the ownership
52:41discrepancy.
52:41>> I'm with you. I'll play more Chase than Lamb, too, I think.
52:45>> Yeah. Um Okay, there you go. Dallas, Arizona. Good game. Going to be a lot of players from these games in optimal
52:52lineups.
52:53>> I assume this game is at 3:25 because we never get any games on the shift cap.
52:57>> No, no. Final final game. Final game of the of the noon window.
53:02>> We get this in the noon window. All right. Well, I'll let you guys know my my pick them in advance. I'll be taking
53:07the higher on Jeremiah Love.
53:09>> Okay, there you go. All All of them.
53:10We're actually just going to do all of them. Yards, receptions, touchdowns, all of them.
53:14>> Yeah.
53:14>> Uh a game a game we should thank our lucky stars. We don't have to watch in the noon window for chip chasing. The
53:20Los Angeles Chargers and the Los Angeles Rams. The battle of Los Angeles.
53:25You know what's is is wild is Puka has like the best role in fantasy football.
53:32It's completely insane. He's projected for a bazillion points. Still don't think he really gets played that much this week because this game sucks. The
53:40Chargers cannot The Chargers cannot push the Rams. And like yes, Lamb, Flowers, and Chase all project worse than Puka, but combined their ceiling projections
53:52are all close enough and they'll all siphon off enough ownership that if you're just like, "Hey man, the Rams got nothing." And I think Puka is going to
54:00get 27 targets in this game, you will be able to do so with only like 17% of your friends instead of 35% of them.
54:08>> Puka is a great play. Kairen's a great play.
54:12Cororum continues to be a great late swap play. Um but also like honestly just a totally fine play.
54:21I want to talk about two Chargers.
54:24One is Lad Mcconi who I think is actually a good play.
54:27>> Come on.
54:28>> Um because he's been he's been it's he's been totally fine when he's been healthy on the field. He just keeps getting
54:34hurt.
54:34>> He just doesn't get hurt. I think he's actually a totally fine play. That one I believe no one's going to want to do
54:40that. No one's going to be interested in doing that. I'm interested in doing that. Um, and then this one I'm probably
54:45not even going to play because I just want to play so much love, but I want to just put it out there. Do you know the
54:52episode of The Office in which Dwight Shroo is told to go steer the boat, but he's not actually steering the boat.
55:01It's like electronically >> steering itself, but he thinks he's steering the boat.
55:05>> I think that's going to be Mike McDaniel this week. Like he's going to have the headset on. He's gonna have his joggers.
55:11He's gonna have the play sheet. And he's gonna be like, "All right, I'm calling shift shift Y flex pancake like Katon
55:19Mitchell angle screen." And he's like, "The fuck?" Like, "Why' they just run duo? That's not what I called." Like, "Why do they keep running plays I didn't
55:25call?" And it's like Jim Harbaugh like told Mike McDaniel that like he still gets to be the offensive coordinator and he gets to wear the offensive
55:31coordinator costume, but like he's not actually doing it anymore. He's just play acting. Um, and what if the adjustment out of the
55:42by-week is we're going to run the ball 25 times with a Marian Hampton?
55:48>> I mean, I think a strong possibility of that being the case or that being the plan and then the game starts and you're
55:57down 14 points and Justin Herbert has already thrown two pick sixes and you're like, well, >> I guess we do probably have to throw the
56:04ball. We can't just easily lose again.
56:06We can't just we can't just lose 24 to zero again. So, we do have to throw the ball. And also, that also presupposes
56:14that Amarian Hampton will like do something with those 25 carries. And he just like really might not be capable of doing something. Like I I wonder if
56:23that's maybe even the plan in most games is like, "All right, let's like let's calm everything down. No bells and whistles. No, like like we don't even
56:31need to do play action. Like, let's just run run pass punt. like let's just get through a couple drives, right? And then
56:38they try and get through a couple drives and like Herbert has taken a horrible sack. The other team just like easily
56:43scored against them because the defense sucks. And they get to the end of the first quarter and they're all just looking at each other on the sideline
56:50like how are we this bad? How is it possible that we're this we're so bad?
56:54And then like that's like when Kamani Vidal comes in is we're like okay well I guess go in. Yeah, whatever.
57:01>> It's insane.
57:02>> That's probably how it works out. So yeah, I don't think I'm gonna play the Hampton thing. I just I just I just want
57:06to say that if it happens that I saw the possib >> I also really wanted to do the bit that I've been thinking of about Mike
57:14McDaniel.
57:15>> It's that's a really that's a really good bit. Um that'll probably be really easy for Lou to make a clip of later. Mike
57:22McDaniel in a in a captain's hat. I guess one other thing would be uh do we do we go back to the Higgby well or was
57:31it so discouraging last week because >> I expected to look at the usage stuff and be like oh they actually changed
57:38positions and Davis Allen and Higgby were deploy no it was the same usage that they've been and it was just the
57:43the ball found Davis Allen you know I get I well actually probably if you're playing the Rams and there's no Devonte Adams
57:51probably the easiest thing to do right now is say hey whatever role pull the vestigial tale of Terence Ferguson was supposed to be playing. If that's being
57:59played by 33-year-old Tyler Higgby, how about we just don't let that guy get wide open? How about we just like stick
58:05our best coverage safety on that guy and just not give free 25 yard plays and that's probably pretty easy to do. Um
58:14yeah, that's this game this game stinks though. I mean Kairen Kairen very good play. uh >> the the Cororum stuff is like kind of a
58:22false flag and that he's just been effective on the touches he has gotten, but there's not been a meaningful change in the way they've been deployed really.
58:31>> Uh probably the probably the hardest question of the week, Jacob, >> in the New England Patriots Miami Dolphins game, which is how washed is AJ
58:40Brown? Is it two games of being washed and he is now clean and and out of the other side and and unwashed? He's
58:46feeling good. He's he's gotten out of the shower. He's dried his hair. He's put his uh you know did did his his uh
58:52skin care. He's feeling great. Or is AJ Brown is this is this uh you know Randy Moss in a Titans jersey? Is this Dez
59:01Bryant in a Ravens jersey? Julio Jones in an Eagles jersey. Um I I I don't know. I do know that if you don't
59:11believe or if you have good reason not to believe, you're going to get paid off because AJ Brown is probably the answer
59:16to who's going to be the most owned. Uh I mean, certainly the most owned mid-tier player of the slate.
59:21>> Yeah. I mean, I think he's a totally reasonable play in a vacuum. $1,500 is a crazy price for AJ Brown based on his
59:30likely role, based on preseason expectations, based on the fact he's Arthur Juan Brown. Um, I I just like my rule of thumb would be on this type of
59:40spot is like let the market decide and if the market's going to own him a lot, which I think that they probably are,
59:47like I'm just not I'm not going to be the one playing a ton of ownership on a player who might just suck. It's not not going
59:56to be me. So, if them if if he rebounds this week, pays off, awesome. Good for him. Happy for him. one of my favorite
60:05players, but I I'm probably just going to take the other side of it at what I expect his ownership to be. And like I I
60:14mean I definitely think like May Brown stuff is fair, but I I think there's there's multiple other decent plays off of Brown too that are fun. I mean Randre
60:21is going to be owned, but I think he's a really good play. And then um the DVP stuff with Miami against tight ends is
60:30crazy. they they just give it up to everyone at the tight end position every single week. They don't defend it at
60:36all. So, I think Hunter Henry at $4,300 is like kind of a gross price, but um could hit and could hit in a way that
60:43leverages off of Brown and Raandre and like if you want to get really crazy, you could just play Eli Rarin. Um but
60:50tight ends Miami have been like an absolute cheat code this year and with multiple other Patriots probably getting ownership, I'm I'm inclined to lean into
60:58that a little bit. I don't think I'm gonna play any um Dolphins.
61:02>> No, I mean like Olli Gordon, whatever.
61:04Malika Malik Washington is he he projects well pretty much every single week because his targets are nice and that's the way projection systems are
61:14built out is they're built out from opportunity and Malik Washington runs a lot of routes and has a lot of opportunity. Actually has like not as
61:21gross of an A dot as you would think either. You'd think like Malik Washington he's he's getting literally targeted behind the line of scrimmage
61:26but it's not that bad. And you know, you do kind of need salary this week. So, I could see I could actually see uh
61:32Demorio Douglas, whose route rate and and target rate is fine. I mean, the Bears game was just a little bit odd. Um
61:39in in terms of how the the Patriots went about scoring points. Um I don't I don't really blame him much for that. And he's
61:46very good leverage on very own AJ Brown.
61:49And I mean, if you think that Drake May does what um the Patriots did to what the Raiders and the Jets, was that the
61:57games where they just kept hawking the ball? Uh I mean, Drake May, you you you want to play Drake May, Hunter, Henry,
62:04Deario Douglas, you'll be you'll be holding hands with no one. Those are those are totally >> uh un unpaved roads that you can go
62:13exploring down the Amazonian rainforest on. And that I actually bet that stuff will sim pretty well too because the Dolphins just they apply no resistance
62:23on defense. It's actually insane.
62:24>> No, they don't play defense.
62:25>> It's insane the Jets lost that game.
62:28>> If the Jets would just throw >> if they would just throw a forward pass.
62:32I don't know. I don't know why they won't do it, but if they would just throw a forward pass, they they could
62:36pretty easily have won that game.
62:38>> They That was a massive blown game.
62:40Patriots are going to annihilate the Dolphins this week. And uh Cale Caleb Douglas, I I wanted to touch on him because he had the really big game.
62:47Welcome to Christian Gonzalez Island, buddy. You're seeing zero targets this week. I love you, but not happening this week.
62:53>> Yeah. Uh okay. And the final game. Wow.
62:57Nice. Final game very quickly. 40 and a half total. Is this the lowest? Second lowest total of the slate is the Kansas
63:04City Chiefs and the Denver.
63:06>> This might be an AFC Championship preview and also it will be the most unwatchable game played on Sunday. This will be this will be like do you know
63:13like when you when you're scrolling you're scrolling Twitter and you see a video that's like obvious AI slop and you're like okay well this this is like
63:21AI slop football. This is like, okay, >> what if we did what if we took Mahomes and we made his best pass catcher, a
63:3135year-old with a bum ankle >> and then we told Bo Nicks that if he throws the ball past the line of
63:38scrimmage, he goes to prison for life.
63:41That's that's that's these games. I mean, Jaylen Wadd injured, Rashi Rice injured, Travis Kelce injured, Xavier Worthy still Xavier Worthy. Um,
63:51Courtland Sutton should retire. Like, sure, Jonah Coleman's getting 50% of the rushes. Just the second you think you can play Jonah Coleman, Shawn Peyton's
63:59gonna be like, "Sorry, man. I had to make it up to JK Dobbins. I got to give him another touchdown." Like, he was
64:03really pissed off. He unfollowed the Broncos on Instagram, so I got to do that. Did you see this great this great
64:09clip from uh >> He did. He did. He literally unfollowed the It's incredible. So, a media member
64:19finally I I very weird >> they need to embarrass him. They need to just they need to just grow up and cut
64:24him.
64:25>> They need to cut him. So, one of the Denver Broncos media finally did this to Shawn Peyton because he's talking about
64:32Jaylen Wadd potentially not playing this week and he's like, "Oh, dude, you know, I've been really wanting to work Marvin Mims into the offense." And one of the
64:39media guys is like, "Hey, man. He's been on your team for about a decade. Why don't you just play him more? Why don't
64:44you just give him the ball?" And and Shawn goes, "Oh, I know." It's like, "Okay, man. All right, enough." I I've
64:51I've had it up to here with Shawn Peyton, dude. I think that I think the straw that broke the camel's back for me
64:57with Shawn Peyton personally was him telling the offensive coordinator's wife to draft Jaylen Waddle. To me, that's a step too far, man. You're you're you're
65:06now >> told his own wife to do it.
65:09>> Oh, I messed up the story. I mean, to be lying to people in your personal life about how many fantasy points your
65:16players are going to get is cra like, okay, lie to me. Who am I to you, Sean Payeyton? Lie to me. I don't care. You
65:21know, I'm a grown man. I can handle it.
65:22To lie to your own wife about your plans for using Jail Motto in your offense is crazy. You have a problem, Sean. You
65:29have a problem and you need to solve it, man. I'm the Both of these teams are just pissing me off.
65:37>> That was so good.
65:41clip that. Um, yeah, like I I legitimately would not be remotely surprised if either of these teams played in the Super Bowl, but they are
65:52also horrible. And they will play the worst game.
65:56>> They'll play a worse game than like the Titans and Browns did last week by a mile from a watchability perspective.
66:02This game won't appear on Red Zone. It will be like a brutal, painful slog.
66:10I like if Jaylen Wall doesn't play, I don't even know what Bronco I'd want to play. Like it's like theoretically that
66:15should open up cheap value, but I just don't want to do that.
66:19>> No, theoretically it just removes all it does is remove seven for 44 from the offense and then disperses that between
66:26five different players.
66:28>> Yeah, it's like a great like we got to add another target to little Jordan Humphrey. Yeah, I was going to say I can
66:33I can scream Troy Franklin in my AFC West league.
66:39>> I I I guess Coleman at 4300 is like ostensibly a lead back. So like that should interest me. But like I just
66:46think he's probably going to have seven points and you're probably just going to lose on raw points to guys who played
66:52more expensive running backs. So I don't even know if I'll get there.
66:57Rice is going to be back. I'm not playing him at $6,400. Are you kidding me? Um, >> and then that also makes Worthy and
67:03Kelsey unplayable, >> who were unplayable anyway.
67:07>> Um, and then I guess like Walker, I mean, he's like no one's gonna play Walker. He's best player in fantasy this
67:13year. He had like 35 points against the Broncos the last time he played them. No one's going to play him.
67:18>> So, if I was going to play anyone, that's who I would play.
67:22>> Yeah. I I like so looking at the slate, I think something smart to do would be to try and leave yourself some late swap
67:30>> to make this decision on Walker. The issue is >> have 45 like he he pulverized the Broncos the last time you played. I I
67:38think I think the way you do it is that if you are getting some like Puka stuff in your Sims or whatever,
67:44>> try and get a four wide receiver build or something to like have the decision between Puka and Walker or something
67:50like that because we're going to weirdly you're actually going to gain a ton of contextual information because the two mega games are in the early slate
68:00because Arizona Dallas is in the early slate and Baltimore Buffalo is in the early slate and and you have these later
68:08games that have way less ownership. New England, Miami, KC, Denver, and uh Chargers, Rams are all in the late SL because I obviously you'd love to play.
68:18I mean, Kenneth Walker before last week was pacing to have a top 10 fantasy football season of all time, has a
68:23really bad game against the Seahawks. Um you truly many such cases, but uh yeah, I I I think that's a I think that's a
68:31good call. Uh okay, man. Let's build a team. This is going to be this is going to be tough. It's gonna be tough to
68:37build a team. Um there lot of lot of I honestly like an incredible amount of of good.
68:42>> There's a lot of expensive guys I want to play. Less there's fewer cheap guys.
68:46>> Cheap guys. Yeah.
68:47>> Yeah. All right. Well, Gold Star Jeremiah Love RV1.
68:53>> That That will help. That will help uh to get us there. All right. I'm going to go.
68:58>> Is someone gonna wind up played this week just because people are trying to save salary?
69:02My guess is the way it will happen is by Sunday someone who's like questionable right now is not gonna play and then
69:09that will you know I don't know >> I don't know if that is Eggbuka I don't know if that's Michael Wilson. I don't
69:14know if it's >> someone's someone's going to pull a hammy in practice that we haven't even heard of yet.
69:19>> Yeah. And and there will be you know and then all of a sudden everyone is playing Caleb Douglas or or whatever you know is
69:26kind of is kind of how that one will go.
69:29All right. I will take my gold star play. That is going to put us in a weird spot, but I'm taking Jamar Chase. I I
69:35just like I know this dude has been texting Joe Burrow all week like, "Yeah, >> hey man.
69:40>> Target."
69:42>> Yeah, I know you're all about uh redistributing the wealth, Joe. So, why don't you redistribute some of that [ __ ]
69:47from T Higgins over to me this week, brother? Look at who they're guarding me with. This guy This guy's going to the
69:53Canadian League next year. Let's do it.
69:56>> I love that. Um, Z Flowers, let's let's see how let's see if we can get multiple sevenk wide receivers in here or not.
70:03I'm excited.
70:04>> I I think we I think we can. I think we I I predict that we are going to be able
70:08to do this.
70:08>> I just I I I just want to watch the Flower score 40 fantasy points and I want to have him in my lineup when it
70:15happens.
70:16>> All right. I >> Is that also a noon game? It is, isn't it?
70:19>> It is. It is also >> Are we going to have fun on the ship cast one time?
70:23>> I'm hoping. I'm hoping so. All right.
70:25>> It's week. It's well it's always it's always higher week. I am gonna save us some money and I'm gonna do something
70:35disgusting that you're not going to like. I'm not going to like. No one No one's going to like it. Um I'm going to
70:42put Mason Taylor in our lineup.
70:45>> Oh, okay.
70:45>> At at 3,300. I was ready. I've been ready for Sadi to to yank his chain.
70:51>> No, >> there's been there's been no there's been no chain yanking right here. Kenyan Sadik is is now um I mean he's he's not
71:00I was about to say he's not even Eli Raren dude he's like uh he's like Elijah Higgins who actually if if Bourne
71:07doesn't though >> well I was well I was going to say Elijah Higgins like actually like lowkey might like I'm being so for real when I
71:14say this because Jaylen Brooks is now out injured so like I think Elijah Higgins might run like 60% of the routes
71:21uh this this week. So, we're going to do we're gonna do Mason Taylor. Oh, wait.
71:25No. No, we're not. No, we're not. No, we're not. I don't know. I don't know how.
71:29>> Roll it back.
71:30>> I don't know how I did this, buddy.
71:32>> We're boarding the board.
71:33>> We're doing the polar bear. $2,500 color shoo.
71:38>> Yeah, this is a way better play.
71:40>> Yeah. I mean, he can get like two for 17, but that that could be fun, you know? 2500.
71:45>> Um, all right. What else we going to do here? I'll do I'll do basil tune. Okay, we we just needed a cheap guy and I and
71:55Kar is going to grade out fine more or less. Yeah.
71:59>> Um like if you really look at the tight end position, I mean we just did this whole show. How many tight ends like
72:05obviously we'd love to play Bowowers and McBride. Concinc Kade doesn't grade out very well. We just I mean you just actually gave like a great elucidation
72:12for why it's not a particularly good Leaporta spot. Kelsey now has worthy back. Tyler Warren has an injured groin.
72:17TJ Hawinson. I mean, be so [ __ ] serious about this T.J. Hawinson stuff.
72:22It's enough already. Kyle Pittz is like the third string tight end on the Falcons when the game is close. I'm I
72:28just I I don't have it in me to to pay $4,300 for for Hunter Henry. Harold Fannon Jr.'s had his chain snatched.
72:35Jake Ferguson doesn't even have a chain anymore. I'm not playing chalk Brett and Strange. Like, you know, there just not that many good plays at the tight end
72:43position. I'm also gonna toss us in um a defense here uh and and just to to show how it's done. I would guess honestly
72:54this is so dark, but isn't the chalk defense probably going to be the Broncos?
73:01>> Maybe. I'm not sure. I haven't looked at defenses closely enough, but maybe >> Pat looked bad last week. I think your I
73:09think your other alternative is just going all the way down to the Chargers.
73:13And then I think actually, you know, with the Raiders versus the Jets, uh, also is is very much in play. So, all
73:19right, we have 6,300 remaining per slot.
73:22So, we actually got oursel into a pretty good position here. Um, who would you like to take next?
73:30H um, yeah, we did get ourselves into a good position. So, I'll I'll go ahead and
73:41play deciding which You know what? I'll leave that to you. I'll leave that to you and then I will pick uh DJ Moore.
73:49>> Goodness gracious.
73:52All right.
73:54I'm gonna take. So, if we do Lamar, we have 6500, which leaves us just enough to either eat the absolute chalk with Chase Brown
74:05or to have a little bit of courage and play Bucky Irving or Parker Washington.
74:11What do you think?
74:13>> Um, any of the above sound great to me, honestly.
74:16>> I think we go I think we go Bucky. I I I have a greater I have a greater belief in Bucky.
74:21>> Quite comfortable to build a lot of. I mean, I guess obviously playing like $2,00.
74:30>> We have a guy projected for four and a half points in our lineup. But yes, >> but like yeah, we didn't This is going
74:37to be a fun week, I think, of DFS because yeah, I want to play a lot of these expensive receivers and you're
74:42able to get multiple of them in there pretty pretty stress free if you play Love and Tuton and that's even with an
74:47expensive quarterback. So, um, you know, you spend down a quarterback from Lamar to like Jacobe Buret or something, >> you could you don't have to ride the
74:55Colar Bear. So, >> but I mean this might be a week where like, yeah, tight end is not amazing if you there's not like an obvious value
75:06at like 3,200, you know? It might be a week where you're just like, screw it.
75:09I'm playing Charlie Kohler or Eli Raridan or Gunnar Helm. And it's like, yeah, I'm going to get five points at tight end, but like it's I'm just going
75:18to make it up elsewhere. And if no one at tight end outside of like maybe Trey McBride or whoever scores like a ton of
75:26points, it might just be fine, right?
75:28Like if >> even even if if McBride and Bowowers both have 80 yards, >> they're in a different universe.
75:33>> They're in a different universe. Yeah.
75:35>> Right. So, it's like if you you just got to beat you got to beat the high-end tight ends with your high-end receivers.
75:40But then like if Brenton Strange has nine and TJ Hawinson has eight, it's like you you you you're fine if you play
75:48Colar and he has four, you know.
75:52>> Yeah. No doubt. Lamar Jackson, Jeremiah Love, Belle Tutin, Jamar Chase, Slowers, DJ Moore, Charlie Kar, Maris, Bucky Irving, and the Denver Broncos. You guys
76:03can get more of Jacob's work over on Thinking About Thinking. There's been new stuff up pretty much every single day. Uh, new dynasty corner just dropped
76:14this morning. Uh, the if you're if you're interested in tracking the continuation of the Somage Pine, who who is the new Who is the new I mean, it
76:22can't be it can't possibly still be Pery. Who's Who's the Is the Pline?
76:26>> It kind of It kind of still is. I was thinking, is it like V?
76:30>> Is it right now? Really? No. Cuz it's it's what it is. What the P line is is like the the least the reason why P line
76:40became or PR became such a bit for me was that like he was a handcuff in a good offense that no one cared about at
76:48all. Like for for whatever reason, it's like every other handcuff on a good offense was um just like was like highly soughta.
76:57But Pine was gross. So no one cared about him. He's just freely available.
77:00was like 2% owned all the time in like Yahoo leagues even though he was really just as good as any other ones. So he is
77:07the P line is the lowest valued enviable handcuff. And right now it's one of two people. It's Tyler Goodson or it's Sion
77:14Vaky.
77:15>> It's definitely Tyler Goodson because I actually have no belief that Sion Vaky would actually get the ball if Jir Gibbs
77:21were injured. I think they would like >> right >> they would find someone. They'd be like Isaiah Carwell you busy Latavius Murray
77:27what's going on? Tyler Goodson is the ultimate peel line because like I think we all kind of intellectually know that if Javvante Williams like if we get if
77:36Adam Shaer tweets in two hours Javvante Williams pulled up with a hamstring strain at practice today, Tyler Goodson is in line to start against the Arizona
77:43Cardinals, he would be like 78% owned in DFS. Like it would be >> what would what would uh what would the
77:50Sunday morning fab on Tyler Goodson be in in the FF?
77:54>> Through the roof. Through the roof. I mean, it would be he would he would project for like 17 points.
78:00>> Um, and so it's like and everyone knows this, but then he's just freely available on FFBC waiverss for no reason, even though there's like 15
78:08handcuffs that would project worse than him um that are owned everywhere. You know, it's like why like why is trying to think of trying to think of an
78:18example of a handcuff? But why is Brian Robinson 100% owned in fantasy football but Ray Davis is 17% owned?
78:26>> Yeah, same guy.
78:27>> Yeah, exactly.
78:28>> Yeah.
78:28>> Yeah.
78:28>> Yeah.
78:29>> Yeah.
78:29>> There you go. Uh all right, folks.
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