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NFL Week 5 BEST Kept Secrets For Winning at DFS | Outside The Box

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1 hr 49 min
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Oct 10, 2026
Published
Sat, October 10, 2026
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Topics
Amon-Ra St. BrownAntonio WilliamsD'Andre SwiftMichael WilsonChris BellChris OlaveJameson WilliamsJayden DanielsKendrick BourneKevin ColemanLuther BurdenMalik WillisRoman WilsonTrey McBride
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Aaron Jones

NegativeProjection46:47

While workload has been good without Jordan Mason and he projects strong value because of that, he's been underperforming it, which is expected from old Aaron Jones. He's 18th of 30 running backs in rush yards over expectation per attempt. Dank Stats Grinder doesn't think he's going to gash the Saints on the ground. Relative to DeAndre Swift being $300 cheaper and Chase Brown being $400 more, Aaron Jones is an easy fade.

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Amon-Ra St. Brown

PositiveMatchup5:00

St. Brown benefits from Cardinals' too-high heavy defense; no wide receiver averages a higher target per out-run against too-high looks than St. Brown over the past three seasons. He is the optimal stack piece with Goff against Arizona's defensive scheme.

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PositiveProjection62:17

One of the two highest ownership wide receivers at 7,900 with 25% ownership in the chalky Lions-Cardinals game. Has a strong schematic matchup. Dank Stats Grinder is playing him if playing this game.

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PositiveMatchup66:59

Amon-Ra St. Brown is recommended as a stack partner with Kendrick Bourne in Detroit lineups; the strategy involves playing Bourne as a leverage piece on Arizona while paying up for expensive Detroit players like St. Brown.

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Antonio Williams

PositiveValue24:03

Dank Stats Grinder identifies Antonio Williams at 3,800 salary as a strong value play, noting he was up at 73% route share last week and was only one target behind Stefan Diggs despite being significantly cheaper. Williams had an 87-yard touchdown called back and has been very efficient in limited work this year, tracking for a full-time route share. Combined with Jaden Daniels at 6K, the two can be stacked for under 10K salary combined, opening up significant salary flexibility on the slate.

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PositiveRole25:40

Antonio Williams is positioned as the top or near-top target for the Commanders if Terry McLaurin is out; the matchup against the Giants is characterized as nice, making Williams an easier stack piece with Jane Daniels.

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PositiveValue77:50

Dank Stats Grinder identifies Antonio Williams as one of the better punts at 4% projected ownership and a few hundred dollars cheaper than Trey Harris; explicitly states Williams is clearly a better play than Harris in the same salary range.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveUsage47:59

Among sub-$5,500 running backs, Braylon is the favorite. Workload feels assured regardless of game script because he's played in all situations this year with 94% snap share last week. Without Reese Hall, he has 100% backfield XFP share; seen every single non-Breeze running back touch for the Jets this year, mixed in at goal line, playing on third downs. Route share was 67% last week. Browns are seventh softest by EPA per rush allowed, top five by rushing success rate allowed, second highest explosive run rate allowed. Dank Stats Grinder is assured of the workload and notes Jets need to run more than 32 plays (last week's total) to maximize his value; against a much worse Browns defense, this is almost assured.

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Brock Bowers

PositiveValue15:00

Bowers is the slate's wide receiver three by DraftKings points per game and expected fantasy points per game, priced $700 cheaper than the salary-based WR3. The Patriots are missing Christian Gonzalez (best corner in league by fantasy points per target allowed) and likely another outside corner. Bowers benefits from the Patriots' struggles defending play action and middle of the field. He pairs well with Kirk Cousins as a contrarian stack.

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Brock Purdy

NegativeMatchup34:49

Brock Purdy has been demolished by the Seahawks in his last two matchups against Mike McDonald; while Purdy averages 30 DFS points per game in his last 14 games not against Seattle, he scores single digits against the Seahawks, making this Week 5 matchup unfavorable despite his general consistency; Dank Stats Grinder does not plan to play Purdy this week.

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C.J. Stroud

NegativeProjection17:30

Stroud is top-two in catchable air yards per game this year and has been playing much better. However, the Texans' worse defense has forced him to drop back 35+ times in three of four games. Nico Collins averages 18 DraftKings points per game in games where Stroud drops back 35+ times since 2024, a decent but not elite angle.

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Caleb Douglas

NegativeProjection28:00

Caleb Douglas is mentioned in comparison to Kevin Coleman Jr., with Coleman noted as more productive than Douglas on an age-adjusted basis from college; this is part of the context for why Coleman was considered a sleeper in the rookie wide receiver class.

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Caleb Williams

NegativeInjury19:00

Williams is listed as questionable, which may affect Bears-Packers stack construction. If he is unavailable, Tyson Bagent becomes the primary QB option for that game stack.

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Carnell Tate

PositiveSleeper67:15

Carnell Tate is priced at $5,300 with only 7% ownership and tracking for single-digit ownership; Dank Stats Grinder makes a strong contrarian case: Tate ranks third among rookie wide receivers in first-read target share through four games (behind only Drake London and Puka Nakua), leads all wide receivers in air yard share, and faces the Texans defense allowing the second-most receiving yards per game on deep balls and second-most schedule-adjusted fantasy points per game to opposing receivers. Tate is averaging 18.7 DK points over his last two games, has top-five fast funnel potential, and was one of the most efficient per-target receivers in his draft class despite competing with Jeremiah Smith at Ohio State. The speaker is willing to play Tate at this price and ownership until the market catches up, viewing him as a potential ascending superstar talent.

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Chase Brown

PositiveUsage44:17

Over 20% target share last week after Jamar Chase left the game; averages 22 DraftKings points per game in four games T Higgins has missed since taking over the backfield; averages over 23 DraftKings points per game in games Bengals have won by a touchdown or more. Dank Stats Grinder identifies him as the way to go on the Bengals.

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Chris Bell

PositiveValue27:24

Chris Bell is Dank Stats Grinder's preferred play over both Malik Willis and Kevin Coleman Jr. in the Dolphins game; the speaker is committed to the Chris Bell train and views him as the better value target.

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PositiveValue28:44

Dank Stats Grinder expresses strong preference for Chris Bell over Kevin Coleman in DFS, positioning Bell as the preferred play in this game matchup.

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Chris Olave

PositiveValue31:34

Chris Olave at $7,700 is a top-three value by expected fantasy points per dollar among all flex-eligible players on the slate; ranks as wide receiver three with Tyler Shough at QB over his last 12 games by DraftKings fantasy points by usage, making him an efficient DFS play despite recent salary increase.

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PositiveUsage33:13

Saints showed willingness to keep Chris Olave on the field late in blowout losses (played after two-minute warning in a game down multiple scores), indicating high-volume fantasy upside even in negative game scripts; this aggressive approach to maintaining offensive plays supports fantasy value.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeUsage52:30

Had his highest share of expected fantasy points for the 49ers last week at close to 30%, still lower than last year but rising. This was in a tighter game, so it's expected to continue rising in another tight game against the Seahawks. However, Dank Stats Grinder would rather pay up for Jackson Smith-Njigba instead, finding him $600 cheaper and preferring that route. McCaffrey doesn't play nearly as much if the game isn't competitive or if the 49ers aren't trailing.

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Christian Watson

NegativeValue21:30

Watson is priced appropriately for his efficiency level among the three Packers pass catchers (Love, Kraft, Watson). He is a middle option between Kraft (best matchup) and Golden Tate (better value).

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Colston Loveland

NegativeRole77:48

Will have his weeks in the Bears offense according to Ben Johnson; usage is unpredictable and will alternate with other receivers like Kalief Raymond week-to-week.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveProjection45:02

Assuming Kyle Monunga is out, Dank Stats Grinder identifies Swift as the best running back play on the slate. Bears have the most valuable backfield in the NFL by backfield expected fantasy points per game, averaging over 30 per game. Packers are one of the top run funnels by pass rate over expectation allowed. If Swift sees 70-80% of this most valuable backfield rather than the 55% he's averaged over the last year-plus, it's the best play on the slate. Ben Johnson offense has consistently been top three in yards per carry and EPA per run.

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PositiveMatchup66:47

Dank Stats Grinder prefers Swift over Bears receivers in Week 5; the Packers are one of the biggest run funnels, and Swift is positioned to benefit from game script favoring the ground game.

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PositiveMatchup78:42

Speaker is much more into playing Swift against the Packers, who are one of the biggest run funnels; this is likely how the game goes most of the time.

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Emanuel Wilson

PositiveProjection53:50

Had a 75% backfield XFP share last week (would have been eighth most on the week) and is priced well below that at $5,300. 49ers are top six schedule adjusted matchup for opposing running backs and the biggest run funnel in the NFL by pass rate over expectation. If Seahawks control the game, Wilson could be a very strong play. However, in negative game scripts (like against Commanders in week three), George Helani played on passing downs and ran more routes. Dank Stats Grinder likes the Wilson DST stack but notes he's clearly worse than Braylon Allen.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeInjury29:40

Jamar Chase practiced in full on Friday, eliminating the scenario where his absence would create value plays at other Bengals receivers like Dante Myers or Mike Gesicki; his health status makes paying up for Joe Burrow harder to justify in DFS.

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Jameis Winston

PositiveMatchup35:25

Jameis Winston presents a strong schematic matchup against the Commanders in Week 5; the Commanders run a ton of cover-4 defense, and Winston has thrown deep against cover-4 the second-most in the NFL, creating a favorable passing setup; Dank Stats Grinder regrets not sticking with Winston last week and views this as another strong opportunity.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveMatchup5:10

Williams' target per out-run falls to just 14 percent against too-high looks, making him a poor fit in the Goff stack despite being cheaper and less owned than St. Brown. Dank Stats Grinder prefers St. Brown as the optimal stack piece.

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NegativeUsage66:59

Jameson Williams is mentioned in the context of Detroit stack construction with Kendrick Bourne as a leverage play, though the speaker's exact phrasing is unclear in the transcript ('golf with Amin Ra gives').

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Jared Goff

PositiveProjection4:00

Goff has shined in high total games; in five away games with totals above 52 points over the past three seasons, he averages 25 DraftKings fantasy points per game. This week's Arizona-Detroit game qualifies as an elite environment with both teams top-seven in plays per game and massive pass funnels by pass rate over expectation allowed.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeValue23:19

Dank Stats Grinder highlights Jaden Daniels at 6K salary with only 3% projected ownership on a slate without Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, or other hypermobile QBs. In games where Daniels hasn't left early over his career (75%+ snap share), he averages 22.7 DraftKings fantasy points per game—ranking behind only Josh Allen since entering the league—plus 51 rushing yards per game, leading all QBs this year. Injury expert Jeff Muller notes re-injury risk exists only if Daniels braces his arm against the ground in the same way again; throwing, running, and getting hit carry no significant re-injury risk, and Daniels is not expected to be physically limited. At 6K with cheap pass catchers (Antonio Williams 3,800, Terry McLaurin 5,300), Daniels opens up significant salary flexibility and is a big point of emphasis for DFS.

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PositiveMatchup35:25

Jaden Daniels is identified as the preferred side of the Commanders-Saints matchup in Week 5; while the game could turn into a 'slop fest,' Daniels' side of the game is viewed as the better DFS play compared to Jameis Winston's side.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveUsage56:44

Assuming Rico Dattles is out again this week, Jalen Warren has had a bell cow role for the Steelers and that's expected to continue in a nice matchup with the Colts. He's seen 90%+ snap shares without Rico Dattles and has played awesome. Dank Stats Grinder loves Jalen Warren, calling him one of his favorite running backs in the league; he's top five in missed tackles forced per touch and yards after contact per attempt every single season. The Colts tend to funnel everything underneath within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage (allowing second most receiving yards per game in that area). Warren has a 21% target share within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, the highest on the Steelers, so PPR value is in play.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeInjury55:03

Scott Barrett made an impassioned argument for him as awesome leverage on every other piece in that game, and the source was very excited to play him thinking he'd be in an every-down bell cow workload last week. However, he got hurt during the game, which he brushed off and the team lied about it. LaFleur said he actually injured his other ankle (not the one injured in preseason). The source played a ton of Jeremiah Love last week and didn't win money because of this. Jeff Mueller (injury Dank Stats Grinder) isn't bullish on Love in the near term due to the need to rehab that ankle. However, if Lions-Cardinals doesn't go off and Love gets positive game script, he could break off long touchdowns on 14-15 touches for a massive tournament-winning score.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeValue29:08

Joe Burrow presented as an interesting DFS option against the Dolphins, particularly if T. Higgins or Jamar Chase misses, which would create value plays at receiver and tight end; however, with both receivers practicing in full on Friday, Burrow becomes harder to justify at full salary; matchup is theoretically nice but Dolphins defense shouldn't provide much pushback.

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Jordan Love

NegativeProjection20:30

Love's thesis remains consistent: the Packers cannot run the ball and will be forced to drop back frequently. However, with Tucker Kraft now fully up to speed and leading the team in first-read target share last week while running more routes than Christian Watson, there are now three pass catchers to choose from, making stack construction difficult. Love could have a high-volume game, but deciding which two receivers to pair with him is challenging.

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Juwan Johnson

PositiveValue31:54

Jawan Johnson at $4,500 is shockingly the top expected fantasy points per dollar value on the entire slate; averaging nearly 16 expected fantasy points per game with virtually no ownership, making him a strong contrarian DFS stack piece with Shough and Olave.

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Kalif Raymond

NegativeRole77:36

Was in play last week but the Bears offense is unpredictable week-to-week; Ben Johnson indicated that Colston Loveland will have his weeks and Kalief Raymond is doing a great job, but it will continue to be unpredictable which receiver gets the volume.

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Kendrick Bourne

PositiveMatchup64:04

Lions have allowed the most schedule-adjusted fantasy points per game to slot receivers of any team. Kendrick Bourne runs 68% of his routes from the slot and has run at least two-thirds of routes in every game this year. Since the start of last season when he's played at least that much, he averages just over 9 DraftKings points per game and has gone over 15 in three of those 11 games, including one this year. Even if he scores 15 DraftKings points, he's taking it away from other receivers in this game. He has the best possible matchup in the slot by XFP per game and actually has a better role than Marvin Harrison Jr. right now. Dank Stats Grinder likes him as a bring-back, in a Brissette stack, or as a one-off leverage play. At $3,400, he's a way to play the game in a smart way different from how others are playing it and allows you to get up to the expensive guys.

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PositiveValue66:30

Dank Stats Grinder targets Kendrick Bourne as a contrarian leverage play on Arizona; prefers him over Tesla as the cheap under-owned receiver with three-to-four-times upside potential. Bourne is positioned as Arizona's wide receiver two with predictable playing time—running fewer routes than Michael Wilson but involved as the primary slot option every game. Suggests playing him in a Detroit stack with Amon-Ra St. Brown to pay up for expensive pieces while gaining leverage on other Arizona receivers like Trey McBride and Michael Wilson.

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Kevin Coleman

PositiveRole26:42

Kevin Coleman Jr. ran a lot of routes and was considered briefly as a potential play, but Dank Stats Grinder decided against pursuing him; he prefers Chris Bell instead. Coleman is noted as a part-time player on the Dolphins with limited upside despite being a college sleeper with productive age-adjusted stats; he's only viable at 0% ownership in large-field contests.

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PositiveValue28:44

Dank Stats Grinder gives blessing to play Kevin Coleman in DFS, though expresses preference for Chris Bell in the same game context; Coleman presented as a viable contrarian option.

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Kirk Cousins

PositiveValue13:30

Cousins is a contrarian pivot to Jacoby Brissett, scoring 21.5 DraftKings fantasy points per game this year (fourth-best among slate-eligible QBs) while costing $100 less. The Raiders have overperformed Vegas's expectations all season, are top-six in speed by seconds per play when trailing, and are efficient in 12 personnel since Brock Bowers returned. Cousins-Bowers stack is $200 cheaper than Brissett-McBride with similar construction and minimal ownership.

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Ladd McConkey

NegativeInjury77:08

Questionable status; speaker is a noted Lad McConkey bull and hopes he can come back healthy and start playing at some point.

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Luther Burden

NegativeValue66:53

Luther Burden III is priced at $4,900 with 14% ownership; Dank Stats Grinder notes he is efficient and exciting, and still believes in his talent level from before the season, but passing volume and usage have been highly inconsistent week-to-week, making him a volatile play.

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NegativeUsage78:58

At 14% ownership; mentioned in context of Bears receiver unpredictability.

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Malik Willis

NegativeValue26:06

Malik Willis is priced at $4,600 in a game where the Dolphins should be forced to throw; Dank Stats Grinder is tempted by the low price but remains uncertain about playing him, noting he's been a lost cause so far this season.

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NegativeValue29:01

Malik Willis mentioned as a quarterback option for DFS consideration, though not elaborated as a primary recommendation in the context of this game.

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Michael Wilson

PositiveRole7:00

Wilson is one of only two Cardinals receivers combining for 70 percent of first reads and has the better schematic matchup of the two Cardinals pass catchers against Detroit's defense.

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PositiveProjection62:17

One of the two highest ownership wide receivers at 6,200 with 22% ownership in the chalky Lions-Cardinals game. Has a strong schematic matchup. Dank Stats Grinder is playing him if playing this game.

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NegativeUsage66:30

Michael Wilson is noted as an expensive Arizona receiver whose target share could be impacted by contrarian plays like Kendrick Bourne in DFS leverage scenarios. Bourne runs fewer routes than Wilson but has been more consistently involved as the primary slot option.

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Mike Gesicki

PositiveValue29:31

Mike Gesicki highlighted as a DFS value play if Tee Higgins misses; has excellent splits without Higgins, averaging six targets per game over the past three years when Higgins is out, making him an attractive salary relief option.

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RJ Harvey

PositiveUsage60:25

Leads the Broncos in target share right now and is just behind Pat Bryant in receiving yards per game for the team lead. Pat Bryant just went on IR. The stat that RJ Harvey is leading the Broncos in usage is described as 'the most damning stat, like the worst symptom of a deeply sick Broncos offense ever,' but it is a strong schematic matchup against the Chargers. Harvey sees his targets per hour run come way up against two-high looks. Shurmur just loves checking it down against what the Chargers show. Could be another big RJ Harvey game. Listed as an MME play; not in the 20-lineup player pool but strong in large field tournaments.

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Roman Wilson

PositiveValue78:21

Scott Barrett's stand on Roman Wilson: despite being part-time the last two weeks, Wilson is only 60 air yards behind DK Metcalf this season and has seen only one fewer first-read target than Metcalf over the last two weeks; with Michael Pittman out, Wilson's 85% route share in week two and efficient production in the Mike McCarthy slot role historically finish as WR1; at $7,700 with single-digit ownership, Wilson projects way higher than his salary suggests.

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PositiveMatchup79:28

Roman Wilson has a great matchup against the Colts defense, which has allowed the fourth-most fantasy points per game to slot receivers on the season; Wilson plays 60% of his snaps from the slot, directly exploiting this weakness.

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Rome Odunze

PositiveValue78:18

If playing Bears receivers this week, Odunze would be the bet; however, speaker is much more into playing DeAndre Swift and the Packers matchup, which is one of the biggest run funnels.

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Sam LaPorta

PositiveValue5:30

LaPorta is a top-five XFP per dollar value on the slate, even including running backs and wide receivers. He leads the team in yards per out-run against cover six, which the Cardinals play significantly. With a 75+ percent route share, he averages nearly 16 DraftKings points per game and has exceeded 20 DK points in 33 percent of games since last year when above that route share threshold; he has done so every game this year.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeInjury29:40

Tee Higgins practiced in full on Friday, eliminating the scenario where his absence would create value plays at other Bengals receivers like Dante Myers or Mike Gesicki; his health status makes paying up for Joe Burrow harder to justify in DFS.

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Terry McLaurin

NegativeValue24:03

Dank Stats Grinder notes Terry McLaurin is entering the weekend as a game-time decision but is priced at only 5,300 salary. Even with Stefan Diggs potentially out and Antonio Williams elevated to 73% route share, McLaurin's salary remains cheap enough to stack with Jaden Daniels and Antonio Williams for under 10K combined.

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Tre Harris

PositiveValue77:04

At 4,100 salary with teammates Pats and Tan out, Harris is the only receiver left on the Chargers offense, but the speaker is opposed to the Chargers overall; last week they leaned heavily into throwing to running backs after not doing so through the first three games, and the Broncos target teams closer to the line of scrimmage within 10 yards, where Rondae Gadsden led the team in targets with a lower average depth of target than Harris; Chris Wecht projects Harris as a top point-per-dollar value, but the speaker is not vibing with the play.

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TreVeyon Henderson

PositiveProjection59:04

Patriots are playing against the Raiders who have allowed the seventh-highest explosive run rate to running backs on the season. Trevion Henderson has that explosive play upside. Rondell Stevenson sounds like he's going to play but Vrabel was non-committal, saying they haven't ruled him out and he sounded pretty questionable. Ramondra said he's ready to go but may be limited, in which case Henderson would take on a bigger workload. At low ownership at $5,000 in a matchup that should suit a running back with explosive play abilities, Henderson is capable of the one or two explosive plays needed to make his day. Listed as an MME (multiple-lineup entry) play; borderline on playing him in a 20-lineup set.

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Trey McBride

PositiveMatchup7:00

McBride is one of only two Cardinals receivers combining for 70 percent of first reads. The Lions allow the fourth-highest target share to opposing tight ends despite facing non-elite tight end names like Jawan Johnson, Dalton Kincaid, and Darren Waller. McBride is expected to smash in this matchup.

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NegativeUsage66:30

Trey McBride is mentioned as one of the expensive Arizona receivers whose target share could be impacted if a contrarian play like Kendrick Bourne pops off for multiple touchdowns in DFS leverage scenarios.

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Tucker Kraft

PositiveRole21:00

Kraft is now fully up to speed and led the Packers in first-read target share last week, running more routes than Christian Watson. He has the best matchup of the three Packers pass catchers against the Bears.

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Tyler Shough

PositiveValue31:07

Tyler Shough is a contrarian DFS value despite facing the Vikings' worst-in-NFL pressure rate and high two-high coverage; his deep throw rate and efficiency decline against two-high, but he ranks top three or top four in pace, drop backs per game, and pass rate, generating top-four fantasy points per game; with low projected ownership and salary at $6,100, Shough offers value if the Saints fall behind and enter garbage time, similar to Blake Bortles' late-game volume; Saints could compete if game script allows for volume.

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Tyson Bagent

PositiveValue19:00

Bagent is priced at $4,700 and represents a top-three point-per-dollar value at QB. His receivers are also very cheap. The Bears-Packers game has the second-highest total on the slate, making it a viable stack alternative to Arizona-Detroit.

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PositiveValue26:40

Tyson Vagent is positioned as a significantly better play than Malik Willis at only $100 more salary; this is offered as the preferred alternative in the same game context.

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Episode Transcript

1,183
0:00This is Outside The Box for Week 5. I am here with Dank Stats Grinder, Ryan Heath.
0:06We're going to be going through position by position, looking at the DraftKings main slate, looking at the chalk a little bit,
0:13but then mostly trying to find some outside the box plays at each position using those Dank Stats that Ryan has dug up for us.
0:21Ryan, last week, kind of a fun week. I felt like we got so much right, but I didn't quite get there.
0:29I don't know if you had any success, any lineups that got to the top.
0:33You kind of needed CeeDee Lamb. I'm not sure if you landed there.
0:38Yeah, I had some CeeDee Lamb, some Nico Collins.
0:41Most of them had George Pickens. So I didn't quite get the correct combination that you needed, but yeah, definitely a positive stepping stone type of week.
0:50I'm really excited for this week. It's the first one we've had all season where ownership is just going to be incredibly concentrated in one game.
0:58We're going to talk about that game a ton, but it does leave a lot of ways for you to get different.
1:06I have a lot of fun outside the box angles that I'm excited to discuss.
1:11I think this is where this show can really shine is on a slate like this, where there's just one game that
1:18has a total of eight points higher than any other game on the slate.
1:23So excited to get into it. Yeah, I'm excited for it.
1:26Also, it's, you know, it's an interesting one. It is different than other slates because there is really just like one clear
1:33favorite game and then the ownership is going there.
1:36So do you just, do you lean into that game?
1:40Do you get away from it? And, you know, obviously the easy place to start is right here at the start because
1:47they are the two chalkiest quarterbacks on the slate before we get into the quarterback.
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2:23It all starts with reset and golf. Again, that's the chalk.
2:27That is the chalky game. We have to decide, are we going to be playing this game?
2:32We're leaning into it. We're going overweight to the chalk.
2:36We're going underway, getting to some other game stacks.
2:39So let's start with those two and then find out what your strategy is.
2:43Are you playing? You just lean into the Arizona Detroit game stack.
2:47Do you have a preference between reset and golf?
2:50So this game is one of the best environmental spots that I can remember in DFS, at least over the last couple
2:58of seasons, especially compared to all of the other games on this slate.
3:02There are no holes that I can really poke in the game environment.
3:06Both of these teams are top seven in plays per game.
3:10Both of these teams are massive pass funnels by pass rate over expectation allowed.
3:15Anything you could possibly look at schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to opposing quarterbacks, receivers.
3:20Basically, every metric just screams that this game is going to completely go off, that the massive over under is more than justified.
3:27And so I don't think you can full fade it unless you're very comfortable saying, hey, I'm not going to win often.
3:34But if I do win, I'm going to win it all this week if you don't play it.
3:40So I think it makes sense to go either direction if you do play the game, which I think I will.
3:47I will be playing this game. I'm not going to full fade this game.
3:52You just have to be very intentional with some of the pieces that you're picking up and how you're pairing it with other pieces in your lineup.
4:01I think there are a couple of outside the box ways to approach this game.
4:06We might get into some of those when it comes to the quarterbacks.
4:10I think I do prefer Jared Goff if I'm forced to pick one of the two.
4:16Goff has really shined in these high total games.
4:19The stat I had was so people might be familiar with, oh, we always want to play Jared Goff at home like
4:26the Goff at home splits are so good. That just doesn't matter when it's a high total above a 52 point over
4:33under in five away games with a total that high.
4:36Goff just averages 25 DraftKings fantasy points per game over the past three seasons.
4:41It's pretty absurd. Again, the stacking, while it's not easy, I think there's a clear optimal stack with Goff this week where
4:48the Cardinals are an incredibly too high heavy defense.
4:51And they have been since the start of last season.
4:55They have the same defensive coordinator. Crazy to me that that guy got retained given all the results we've seen.
5:01But that's just a side note. With a lot of too high, that's really benefited Amon Ross St.
5:07Brown. No wide receiver averages a higher target per out run against too high looks than St.
5:13Brown over the past three seasons. Jameson Williams target per out run falls to just 14 percent against too high.
5:20So if you look at ownership, you will see, yeah, Amon Ross St.
5:24Brown is much more popular or projecting that way than Jameson Williams.
5:28So I think it's tempting to look at that and say, oh, Jameson Williams, amazing GPP play.
5:33That's not where I want to go. I do think if you're stacking the Goff side, it is Goff.
5:40It's Amon Ross St. Brown. And then it's Sam Laporta, who I think is just the best play pound for pound in this game at salary and ownership.
5:49Too high is also a big boon for him.
5:52Cover six is a big boon for Sam Laporta.
5:55Leads the team in yards per out run against it.
5:58The Cardinals are one of the few teams in the NFL that play a significant amount of cover six.
6:05Laporta is just a top five XFP per dollar value on this slate, even including running backs and wide receivers.
6:11He just has had a great role over his career.
6:15He's up at nearly 16 DraftKings points per game above a 75 percent route share.
6:20That was the thesis coming into the season is Laporta is just going to run a lot more routes.
6:26He's always been more dominant than Jameson Williams. Whenever that's happened in his career, it has come into this year.
6:32I gets over 20 DK and 33 percent of his games since last year that he's been above a 75 percent route share.
6:40He's done that every game this year. Yeah, I think Laporta is where I'd go.
6:45So it's Goff, St. Brown, Laporta. I like that.
6:48That's my favorite double stack from this game. How you get outside the box is going to be in the bring back in the rest of your lineup.
6:57But I think that's just really strong. But yeah, I mean, the Cardinal side of this is almost equally as strong.
7:04There's only two receivers on the Cardinals that combine for 70 percent of their first reads.
7:10It's Trey McBride. It's Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson, the better schematic matchup.
7:14Trey McBride in an awesome on paper matchup. The Lions are allowing the fourth highest target share to opposing tight ends, despite
7:21facing names like Jawan Johnson, Dalton Kincaid, Darren Waller, Kenyon Sadiq.
7:24Not like superstar target earner tight ends, but they've just been up there with the Bengals in target share allowed to tight ends.
7:32Schedule adjusted points per game allowed to tight ends.
7:35What do you think is going to happen when they play Trey McBride?
7:39He's probably going to smash. So, yeah, really, those are the two optimal doubles on either side of this.
7:46I prefer the Lions slightly, as I said. I think one benefit of it is you can play that Lions double without Jameer Gibbs.
7:54You can certainly play it with Jameer Gibbs. You can just onslaught the Lions.
7:58That's has won tournaments before. Certainly could this week, too.
8:02But but yeah, I like that because there's a very outside the box play on the Cardinals that I like as more of a bring back.
8:10Are you going to save it? Are you going to give it away?
8:15Yeah, why don't why don't we? Why don't we save it till the wide receiver section?
8:20I was I was really close to giving you a compliment because you started.
8:24You were like, there is a real optimal way to to stack this.
8:29And I was like ready to jump in and give you a compliment for like, wow, what a tease by Ryan.
8:36And then you just gave away all the goods.
8:39You just like listed off your exact favorite stack on on both sides.
8:43So let's save the one bring back that you like that is a bit outside the box on the Cardinals for when
8:50we get to whichever position that is. All right, let's move on, though.
8:55So so those are I mean, maybe not move on.
8:58Let's stick here just for a minute. So these are you know, we have the clear chalk in Arizona and Detroit ways to get different around this chalk.
9:07Aside from just the players, do you think that you are interested in overstacking this game?
9:13Because that tends to be something that is a way to get different that I think the field kind of doesn't do enough.
9:20It's just saying, you know what, this game just has the fifth highest total or, you know, time for the fifth highest total since 2022.
9:28I'm just going to, you know, everybody wants to play this game, but people are going to pick and choose the best stacks.
9:36What about just like playing, you know, seven players from I don't know what the actual max is of players, something like seven.
9:44But like what about just doing that playing? You know, all three of your wide receivers from this game, you know, maybe
9:51double tight end with one of the quarterbacks. Maybe you throw in one or two of the running backs.
9:57Also, do you have any interest in just like jamming a large stack of this game?
10:03Do you have like a cap on how many you would play of the skill position players in this game?
10:09I don't know that there is a cap. Yeah, I think you can just totally onslaught this game.
10:15That's viable to me. Mostly, I guess it's really how you the argument against it, I guess, is you're going to get
10:22pushed into certain like punt plays to afford all of it is my guess.
10:27I haven't actually tried to build just onslaughts of this game, so I may be mistaken.
10:32But my guess is, yeah, it's going to be hard to get different in any way around that just because we have
10:40some good punts on this slate, but you're just going to run out of lineup slots.
10:45Yeah. So I don't know. I think it's yeah, I think to your point that that's one good way to play it.
10:52And yeah, you're probably right that us particularly lions onslaughts, I think are really, really strong Gibbs with all the pass catchers.
11:00Yeah. But yeah, I mean that. Yeah, you do bring up the biggest constraint here, which is these are kind of expensive.
11:07You've got all my St. Brown is expensive. Jameer Gibbs expensive.
11:11Trey McBride likes. So and even Michael Wilson's like 6200.
11:14We don't have that many like of the players you named and maybe we'll get there later, but not a ton of like great value among those.
11:23I mean, if you're not getting away to James and Williams, who also not that cheap, you just don't have that much
11:30in terms of value to play for many of these teams.
11:34So I guess that would be the constraint more than anything on what you're doing here, unless you're going to go straight
11:41to like just skip over Gibbs and Amon Ra and McBride and like just go to the cheaper pieces.
11:47But yeah, I don't know if that's the way we want to play it.
11:52So we yeah, I guess we'll probably try to build one of these out later and then see what we can do.
11:59What is actually possible? Because you probably can't play, you know, the full stack with three wide receivers and two tight ends.
12:07That's probably going to be just too expensive unless we get real cheap out running back.
12:12But we'll worry about that when we try to stack later.
12:15I just kind of wanted to see, you know, if you have an idea for I mean, I guess I already have.
12:23I already know you'd like to be stacking up this game a fair amount.
12:27It sounds like so probably not just like single stacking, but we might have some constraints on how deep we can go with the stack.
12:36OK, now now let's move on to some other quarterbacks.
12:39And we I mean, it's really just those two are chalky every other quarterback on the slate, 7% or less.
12:46So I'll let you tell me who are some of your other stacks if you're not going to be going straight to Arizona Detroit quarterback.
12:54Which other quarterback are you leading a game stack with?
12:57So the theme of this week for me in any lineups where you're not playing Cardinals Lions is whatever stack you have, whatever angle you're taking.
13:06I want to either just get leverage in terms of this is a similar construction, but just nobody's going to play it to that game.
13:14Or it needs to be like, hey, this double can actually I believe that this double can beat the golf double like
13:21there's just a much higher bar for that this week than there than there is in a typical week.
13:28It is kind of how I approach it. So I have a few.
13:32One of them is going to be very off the board.
13:36I think you're going to have to scroll down a lot.
13:39I'm interested in Kirk Cousins and the Raiders this week.
13:43Something we've been tracking all kind of all season is the Raiders have just continually overperformed Vegas's expectation.
13:49Everybody's expectation for the offense. They're one of the most efficient in the NFL when they play 12 personnel.
13:55They only really got to start playing a lot of 12 since Brock Bowers came back and it's been working.
14:02They are top six in speed by seconds per play when trailing, which is kind of an underrated Clint Kubiak thing, because
14:09especially in Seattle, like his teams didn't trail that often last year, but they were still top 10 in pace of play when trailing.
14:17So if the Patriots can push it all here, I think you get Drake May playing better, not turning the ball over as much, at least last week.
14:26I think this is a game that could be kind of underrated.
14:30And Cousins is fun because he's been scoring very well.
14:33He's at 21.5 DraftKings fantasy points per game this year.
14:37That's fourth best among slate eligible quarterbacks. That's better than Jacoby Brissett, who he's $100 cheaper than.
14:42You can kind of mirror the Brissett McBride stack that everyone wants to play with Kirk Cousins, Brock Bowers.
14:49The Patriots are going to be missing multiple defensive backs.
14:52Christian Gonzalez, who's been the best corner in the league this year by fantasy points per target allowed, is out.
14:59Their other outside corner is also likely out, unless that has changed since people.
15:03Yeah, since this show's gone up. But they should be missing multiple DBs.
15:08The Patriots have really struggled at defending play action this year.
15:11That's like another signature of the Clint Kubiak offense is the deep play action efficiency.
15:16Third most adjusted net yards per attempt allowed on play action by the Pats this year.
15:21They've been a top five defense when they haven't faced play action.
15:25And that's another angle. They've struggled defending the middle of the field.
15:29And just having these corners out kind of causes a trickle down effect to every matchup on the field.
15:36Right. It's it's not just, oh, we have to play Trey Tucker because Christian Gonzalez is out.
15:41This legit helps Brock Bowers, who's the Slates wide receiver three by DraftKings points per game this year and by expected fantasy points per game.
15:50$700 cheaper than the Slates wide receiver three by salary, at least by results.
15:54He's a strong value. The Pats haven't really been tested against tight ends this year.
15:59They look like a tough tight end matchup, but they've played A.J.
16:03Barner, Dalton Kincaid in his lowest route share of the season.
16:07And then the Steelers and the Jaguars who like, yeah, their tight ends went off against the Bengals.
16:13But I don't think Brenton Strange, Pat Fryer, Darnell Washington, like their fantasy points per game scored against the Patriots aren't going
16:20to stop me from playing Brock Bowers. So it's just fun because Cousins Bowers is, yeah, it's like $200 different than Brissette McBride.
16:28And there's going to be very few people on it.
16:31And it just lets you get to the same kind of construction.
16:35And like people like people are going to play the Cardinals as though it's can't miss with with Brissette and McBride.
16:42But like the Cardinals could still turn into a pumpkin any time, right?
16:46Like Brissette is not like a guaranteed put up, you know, 20 plus fantasy points even against Detroit.
16:52And this, yeah, it makes sense, I think, to pivot here.
16:56I love that idea of a pivot. I did not have Kirk Cousins in my write-up as even somebody that would make my 150 set.
17:04Brock Bowers, though, certainly a target. Maybe I'll reconsider Kirk Cousins.
17:08I think he doesn't project that well, even at fantasy points, doesn't project well point per dollar.
17:13But to your point, if they're just beating Vegas every week, projections often are, you know, kind of Vegas kind of leads the way there.
17:22So maybe they continue to beat Vegas. And yeah, Christian Gonzalez being out certainly helps.
17:27That's an interesting one that, frankly, I had not seriously considered.
17:30What about, you go into any CJ Stroud? He's 3% projected ownership.
17:34We have Nico Collins back against Tennessee. Theoretically a nice matchup.
17:38Any interest there? I guess it's slightly more expensive, but kind of the same price range.
17:43I hadn't given Stroud much thought, but that's interesting.
17:46He has been playing a lot better this year.
17:49He's top five in catchable air yards per game.
17:52I think actually top two in catchable air yards per game this year.
17:57Of course, the Texans defense has been much worse, and that's an understatement relative to recent seasons.
18:02It's caused Stroud to have to drop back a lot more.
18:06He's hit 35 or more drop backs in three of his four games.
18:10The stat I had on that was that Nico Collins is up at 18 DraftKings points per game, or a little above
18:17that, in games that Stroud drops back 35 or more times since 2024.
18:22That's decent. Probably not my favorite angle, but I can't knock anything too hard.
18:26No one's going to play it. Like you said, it's not that different of a thought than me and Kirk Cousins.
18:33To be honest, I threw that one out there because it's on the screen and just had the thought of like, I
18:41keep going back and forth on whether I want to play it.
18:45There are a couple other quarterbacks that I am very interested in playing, so maybe I'll just ask your thoughts on those.
18:52Starting with Tyson Bajan, just like the price tag.
18:55Of course, we have Caleb now as questionable, so I guess maybe Tyson Bajan goes out the window and we play Caleb instead.
19:02But Bajan to me is fairly interesting at, he's I think 4,700, and then you have Luther Burden there.
19:09Your guy, RIP Khalif Raymond, or maybe not RIP.
19:12Maybe we can go back there. I don't know.
19:15Colston Loveland, potentially. And I just think that that one has potential to be a game that could go off.
19:21I think it has the second highest total on the slate, so it doesn't stand out as, wouldn't be that contrarian, I guess, from that standpoint.
19:30Shouldn't be that surprising if that game does go off a little bit.
19:34Any interest in playing the Bears-Packers as a game stack or playing either of those quarterbacks?
19:40Because I also have interest in Love just because of the PROE, the pace of the Packers.
19:45So do you have any interest in either of those quarterbacks?
19:49Do you have a preference? And you can play any of that game stack.
19:54So this, I feel like with this game, so much of my thoughts have just been consumed by DeAndre Swift, who we'll get to in the next section.
20:03But yeah, you make a good point with Bajan that he's 4,700.
20:07His receivers are also very cheap. Roma Dunze actually has the best matchup by my eye of any of these Bears pass catchers.
20:14Packers allowing the second most schedule adjusted to outside wide receivers.
20:18Bears top six against quarterbacks. Bajan's like a top three point per dollar value for us at the QB position.
20:25So I think that does make some sense. It's just who do you stack him with?
20:30Like I said, I do think the Odunze matchup is nice.
20:34I just have very low confidence in terms of Bears pass catchers from week to week.
20:39It's hard to be that confident. But yeah, and I have sort of the same issue with Jordan Love where, yeah, the
20:46thesis is the same that it's been every single week.
20:50The Packers can't run the ball. They just are going to be forced to drop back a ton.
20:56We've seen that. But now that Tucker Craft is fully up to speed and led the team in first read target share
21:03last week, actually ran a couple more routes than Christian Watson did last week.
21:07Now there's three pass catchers that you have to decide between playing him with.
21:12That's like really my only nitpick on Love is while, yeah, I certainly see the outcome for any Packers game where he
21:19just has to drop back 45 to 50 times and LeFleur just figures it out and it becomes an efficient offense like we've seen in the past.
21:28It's just hard for me to decide like which two to play him with of Watson, Golden, Craft.
21:34I think Craft has the best matchup. Watson is priced like where he should be for his efficiency.
21:40Golden is a bit better of a value. But that one's also tough for me.
21:45I mean, having three to choose from for a double stack doesn't seem like the worst thing.
21:51You know, you can play all of those different stacks without, you know, cover your bases without doing too many stacks of the game.
21:59Of course, I come from the perspective of somebody who will 150 max some contests.
22:04Yeah, it's it's frankly a difficult slate in some ways because you have to try to find other games that can, you
22:11know, keep up with Detroit Arizona game. And there aren't that many that I think have a real shot at keeping up with that game.
22:19The Bears Packers just stands out as one where I think the Packers have a pretty weak defense.
22:25You see that all across looking looking at the schedule adjusted like the Packers are really bad.
22:31The Bears haven't been as bad, but I kind of think it's going to like it's going to look a lot worse as the season progresses.
22:40I don't know why they don't look as bad on paper as I think they are.
22:45So it's just a game that I see is like it could be an offensive game just because the defenses are so
22:52bad, even if those offenses are not that incredible and Bears might be, you know, with with Ben Ben Johnson there.
22:59So that's, you know, a game that I have interest in.
23:03Outside of that, there's not a ton of quarterbacks that I'm like super interested in.
23:08Do you have others that you that you want to bring up?
23:12I do. I have two more unless I'm forgetting somebody.
23:15I think two more that I have pretty strong feelings on.
23:19One is Jaden Daniels. So as we're recording this right now, Jaden Daniels expected to play.
23:24He is showing at 3% projected ownership for us at 6K.
23:28The note that I gave on caching points was Daniels in games that he hasn't left early.
23:33So I think I did like a 75% plus snap share to pull this stat in games.
23:39He hasn't left early over his career. Average is 22.7 DraftKings fantasy points per game.
23:44That would rank behind only Josh Allen since he entered the league.
23:4851 rushing yards per game in that same split.
23:5150 rushing yards per game this year. That leads all quarterbacks.
23:55Our injury expert Jeff Muller at fantasy points has been saying that yes, there's re-injury risk in terms of if Daniels puts
24:02his arm out in the same way again and tries to brace himself against the ground, then yeah, his elbow is probably
24:09going to pop out again and that wouldn't be good.
24:12But in terms of him throwing, in terms of him running or even getting hit, that there's not really that big of a risk to that.
24:21He doesn't really think that he's going to be physically limited in that sense.
24:26So yeah, at 6K, Jaden Daniels on a slate without Josh Allen, without Lamar Jackson, without any of these hypermobile cheat code
24:33quarterbacks when everybody's either playing the same shootout game or like paying way down at QB.
24:38That's legit interesting to me, especially because his wide receivers are also very cheap.
24:43Antonio Williams. So I'm assuming it's Stefan Diggs out, Terry McLaurin entering the weekend as it sounds like a game time decision.
24:50But either way, Antonio Williams was up at a 73% route share last week.
24:55He's only 3,800, was only one target behind Stefan Diggs, had an 87 yard touchdown called back.
25:00Williams has been really efficient in limited work this year.
25:04He is tracking for just another full-time route share.
25:07You can play Daniels and him for under 10K salary combined.
25:10That feels really strong. Even Terry McLaurin's only 5,300.
25:13Like the Daniels just opens up so much on this slate to me.
25:18And no, and yeah, as of now, nobody's on it.
25:21So he's going to be like a big point of emphasis.
25:25I like that. So I have Jane Daniels listed as somebody will be in my 150 max player pool, but I did not have him as a target.
25:34Maybe, maybe I'll reconsider and think about moving him there because he is, he is pretty interesting.
25:40I like that call. And Antonio Williams certainly like makes it an easier stack.
25:44Antonio Williams after the game last week certainly looks like if Terry McLaurin is out, he will be the top target most
25:52likely, or, you know, he'll be one of the top targets at the very least in a nice matchup with the Giants.
25:59What about Scott's, Scott's guy, Malik Willis? Do you think there's any, any hope for Malik Willis at any point this year?
26:06He's down at 4,600 in a game where they should have to be throwing the ball, but he's been kind of looking like a lost cause.
26:15Uh, I'm just like, you know, we saw last week the, the Chris bell near long touchdown and Malik Washington's looking okay.
26:22So I'm like, all right, some of these pass catchers look like they're fine against Cincinnati.
26:27Uh, so I'm almost tempted to, to pay all the way down to 4,600 for Malik Willis, but, uh, not, not totally
26:35sure that I'm going to do it yet. What, what's your level of interest there?
26:40Yeah, I think Tyson Vagent's a significantly better play only a hundred dollars more.
26:44I I'm swearing off all dolphins. Um, the, the play volume is just too terrible.
26:49Uh, although Neil, I was told to ask you, and this is probably the only time in the show that I'll think of it.
26:57So I'll do it now. Producer Trey wants your thoughts on Kevin Coleman Jr.
27:02as, as a piece to play with Malik Willis.
27:05So have you given him any thought? I, I only gave him thought briefly as I was looking at their route chairs
27:12and I was like, Oh, Kevin Coleman ran a lot of routes.
27:16Uh, maybe that's interesting, but that was after I'd already written up the dolphins and I kind of just, uh, decided, eh,
27:23I don't need to think about that anymore. He's Kevin Coleman.
27:27I'd rather just play Chris bell. Um, but yeah, if, if he's going to be at 0% in, in a Millie maker
27:34type contest, I guess you could go to Kevin Coleman.
27:38I'm, I'm pulling up the stats as I'm saying this.
27:41Um, but yeah, I have, have not given it.
27:44Kevin Coleman in college was one of my favorite sleepers out of this class.
27:49And that's an extremely low bar for this rookie wide receiver class.
27:52Uh, it's one of the worst we've seen in recent memory, but Coleman was legit productive at a decently young age, uh,
28:00more productive than Chris bell on an age adjusted basis.
28:03Uh, more, more than Caleb Douglas. Certainly. Uh, he's a, he did most of that from the slot and that's like the
28:10most common way that numbers will lie to you for college receivers is that it's way easier to produce from the slot.
28:18So he, he was a sleeper that I had as from the rookie class.
28:22I was wondering if he might just outplay all the other rookies they drafted that hasn't, hasn't happened to this point, but
28:30yeah, it is interesting that he's, he's yeah. The playing time is coming up at least.
28:35Yeah. To Trey, uh, saying he's 3000 end zone target last week.
28:39I get it. It's to me, it's like, he's, he's a part-time player on the dolphins.
28:44Um, I, I think I'm just going to make my bet on Chris bell.
28:49I don't think I'm going to follow you there, but that, that does sound like very much a Neil last play.
28:56Like I can, I can see why, why you would bring him up to me.
29:01Uh, yeah, I give you Trey. If you want to play him, I give you, I give you my blessing to, to
29:08play some Kevin Coleman, but I'm just, I'm on the Chris bell train.
29:12So it's too late for me to join you on Kevin Coleman.
29:16I think, um, all right. Any, I'm trying to think if there's any other quarterbacks that I have super, I guess the
29:24other side of that game, I brought up Malik Willis, but it's like, uh, Joe Burrow, like that could be interesting, especially
29:31if one of one of T Higgins or Jamar chase misses and suddenly you have a value play.
29:37I guess you could play Dante Myers either way.
29:40Um, do you have any interest in Burrow? I think to your point, it would have been more interesting if we knew
29:47that one of the top two receivers were out just because it, yeah, it lets you pay down to Dante Myers or
29:54to Mike Gasicki, especially if T's out, uh, because Gasicki has awesome splits without T Higgins, six targets per game, uh, over the past three years without him.
30:04Uh, Dante Myers, of course, we'll probably get to him, but yeah, it's as of right now, uh, T Higgins and Jamar
30:11chase both practiced in full on Friday. So with that, it becomes harder for me just to justify paying up that much, I guess.
30:19Uh, but yeah, Burrow's like in consideration, but not, he's not like the last guy that I, that I was thinking of
30:26in terms of my biggest level of interest. Yeah.
30:29I think that's, that's fair. Like he's like, it's a nice matchup theoretically against the dolphins, except for the dolphin shouldn't push back at all.
30:38Um, so yeah, I, I'm like borderline interested. Who was your last guy?
30:42It's Tyler shock. Uh, it's the worst possible matchup against the Vikings.
30:46Uh, they play a ton of too high. They have gotten the highest pressure rate in the NFL.
30:52All of that's very bad for Tyler shock. His deep throw rate comes way down against too high.
30:58Of course his efficiency and that of all the saints receivers comes way down.
31:02But I look at that and then I look at the projected ownership and the salary.
31:08And it's like Tyler shock is 60, 100, but he still ranks top three or top four in pace in place.
31:15In place per game, drop backs per game, pass rate, drafting fantasy points per game.
31:20It's a tough matchup, but with people not playing it, I think the saints are one of those few teams that if
31:27the game goes a certain way, and even if that's the Vikings get up for scores and stop trying or just go
31:34into prevent defense or what have you. And it's all garbage time.
31:38And it's all garbage time. Tyler shock, the reincarnation of Blake portals.
31:42Uh, I think saints are one of the teams that could get there and compete with a lions or with a Cardinals this week.
31:50You've got Chris Olave at 7,700, even though they finally priced him up.
31:54He is still a top three value by XFP per dollar among all flex eligible players on the slate.
32:01Uh, just ranks as the wide receiver three with Tyler shock at QB over his last 12 games by draft Kings, fantasy points by usage.
32:09Uh, and you can play one of Jawan Johnson or Devon Ville.
32:13Uh, Johnson is shockingly, even at 4,500 is the top XFP per dollar value on the slate.
32:19He's averaging nearly 16 expected fantasy points per game.
32:22Nobody's playing him. So that double specifically shock Olave Jawan is kind of fun to me.
32:27Uh, just because even if it's not a competitive game whatsoever, if they fall behind super quickly, I, I do think just
32:34on pure drop back volume, the saints could get there.
32:38Of course, the Vikings, the toughest defense by fantasy points per drop back, but Hey, if we get enough drop backs, then maybe we can overcome that.
32:46So I, that's like the last, the, yeah, the last place I had in mind that I, that I would really be
32:54looking to go outside of, uh, Cardinals lions. And to your point, if they do get behind quite a bit, I mean,
33:01we saw it just last week, like they're willing to keep throwing.
33:05They had Chris Olave there after the two minute warning of a game that was, well, I was like, what are you doing?
33:13Still playing Chris Olave. But they were, and that, that is, you know, bonus points there for, for the, the fantasy upside of this offense.
33:21If they're going to keep trying when they're down three, four scores late in the, late, late in the fourth quarter, that's just more, more plays.
33:30Like they felt like they're just trying to rack up fantasy points at that point, which, uh, when you have them, then that feels pretty good.
33:38So I don't hate the idea of playing some Tyler Shuck.
33:42I don't think that I really have any other quarterbacks, uh, to call out that I, that I want your opinions on.
33:49Um, and any, any, you know, I guess, I guess one more Brock pretty just because Brock pretty has been like, it
33:56feels like he's always a pretty good play. It's like the worst possible or, you know, not the worst possible, very tough
34:04matchup with Seattle, but that one feels like a game.
34:07Like if that game ends up like being more of an offensive battle than we're expecting, it wouldn't be that shocking.
34:14It would be surprising to me. It's not how I expect the game to play out, but like clearly those are two very competent offenses.
34:22Um, so that one, you know, I can kind of see it going, going that way.
34:28Do you have any interest in, in party or Darnold?
34:31Um, Graham Barfield is interested in Darnold. That's like his gut call, uh, kind of contrarian quarterback GPP play of the week.
34:38So, uh, people should go check out slate breakdown for that.
34:42That's on fantasy points.com, uh, for Graham's thoughts on Darnold with Purdy.
34:46Yeah. I, he's a quarterback I have interest in every week.
34:49I don't think this is the week for it as kind of how I was coming into it.
34:55Um, he's gotten absolutely demolished by the Seahawks in the, in the last two times he played Mike McDonald.
35:02Uh, it's forever. The stat was like, Oh, Brock Purdy in his last 14 games that weren't against the Seahawks.
35:08It's like, wow, he's averaging 30 drafting points for game.
35:12But it's, it's like, yeah, single digits against the Seahawks.
35:15Yeah. I don't know. I, I probably am not getting to Purdy.
35:19Uh, someone I would get to before Purdy would be just the opposite side of the Jaden Daniels game.
35:25I would play Jameis Winston. I'll go back to that this week.
35:29Um, I, I feel silly for not like sticking with it last week after being frustrated after the weather game in week three.
35:37That's a, another strong schematic matchup for Jameis. Uh, it's a ton of cover for a ton of too high from the commanders.
35:44Uh, Jameis has thrown deep against cover for, uh, the second most in the NFL.
35:49Uh, Malik neighbors has a massive target per outrun and yard per outrun boost against cover for neighbors.
35:55Uh, had his easily his highest average separation score of the season last week seems to be getting healthier.
36:02Uh, so that that's another fun way to go.
36:05I think the Jaden Daniels side of it is better, but that, that game turning into, uh, just kind of a slop fest.
36:12It is one of the more plausible, uh, yeah, ways to beat Cardinals science to me.
36:18Yeah, I think you're right. That was when I looked at, I was like, man, he doesn't project well enough that I
36:25can really justify like recommending Jameis Winston. But like, you know, he's, he's one that like, my God is just like, yeah,
36:32but any game Jameis Winston can just like be hero Jameis Winston instead.
36:37So yeah, I like that call. It's like 1% ownership.
36:40Why not? Let's give it a shot on, on Jameis and some lineups.
36:44Okay. Let's, let's move on to running backs. I think we've talked about all of the quarterbacks we want to talk about.
36:51Um, running back. We'll, we'll start with again, going back to, I guess it's not at the very top with, with Jameer Gibbs.
36:59Uh, we've talked about him a little bit already.
37:02Mike Washington. And I guess we don't know for sure that Ashton Gentry is going to be out, but it's looking like
37:09pretty likely because he didn't practice today. Usually if you don't practice on Friday, probably not playing in the game, but I
37:17don't think he's like officially out for this game, but we're making the assumption.
37:21Like the industry is making the assumption that Ashton Gentry is going to be out.
37:26In which case, Mike Washington stands out as a really great point per dollar play.
37:31Um, well, let's start with, let's start with Mike Washington and Jameer Gibbs.
37:36Both the two running backs getting over 30% ownership.
37:38You're kind of getting, you know, the, the bookends of the pricing with those two.
37:43Um, do you have a preference? I mean, I, I, it's not even there apples and oranges.
37:49So I guess not even, do you have a preference?
37:52Uh, are you playing Mike Washington and, or are you playing Jameer Gibbs or either of them a big fade for you?
38:00Yeah. I prefer Jameer Gibbs, Neil. I think Jameer Gibbs is going to score a lot more fantasy points than Mike Washington.
38:07Yeah. Uh, yeah, Mike Washington. It's really hard to argue with a $4,200 running back, but I'm going to try to do it anyway.
38:15Washington has never really been a bell cow running back at all in college.
38:20He was getting outplayed, uh, and out volumed by Seth McGowan, who was another day three running back in this class.
38:27Uh, that I, what is on the cults that I think lost his backup job to Tyler Goodson.
38:33I is, as I think is what's happening at the back of that depth chart right now.
38:38Uh, Washington in college by rushing efficiency was just a bottom.
38:42Tyler Goodson is now on the Cowboys. Just, just need to say, I think he was in the showdown.
38:48Yeah. I think he was on the cults. You're right.
38:51Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that, that tells you how much I've thought of Seth McGowan.
38:57I think that, that illustrates the point I was trying to make perfectly.
39:01Um, but yeah, Washington, I, I just hated him as a prospect in college, like extremely low rushing efficiency.
39:08Um, what is a total track star, extremely fast, ran well at the combine, all of that.
39:13That's like the reason he got drafted high. Uh, he looks like the outline of a bell cow running back where there,
39:21there's sort of receiving juice, but it's just never really been all put together.
39:25Uh, he had to stay in college for like four years until he was ever really anything.
39:31I don't know if Mike Washington's the chalkiest running back on the slate.
39:35That's, I, I feel like I want to fade that.
39:38I, I'm very low on his relative talent, uh, compared to even somebody, uh, like, like a Braylon Allen or an Emmanuel Wilson.
39:46I don't think Washington is like a better player than either of these guys.
39:51Those other two names are more expensive, but they're still awesome values.
39:55You're going to save a lot of salary with those two as well.
39:59Um, yeah, I don't know. I, I just wonder if the Raiders lean more into the past.
40:05And again, with both corners out for the Patriots, I think Washington's one that I'm more inclined to fade or like come under on, uh, Jameer Gibbs.
40:14I, yeah, he, it's a 30 point implied total for Jameer Gibbs.
40:18It was, it was our highest projection ever earlier in the week.
40:22I think that got pulled back a little bit.
40:25It may still be for any, for any flex eligible player on Jameer Gibbs this week.
40:30Uh, I'm, I will not be fading him. I think if you're fading the, uh, like that game, then just playing Jameer
40:37Gibbs and nothing else from it is a way to go.
40:41Um, just kind of take the free square on that and play and pay down at quarterback and try to pick the correct pay down.
40:49Uh, it is how I'm approaching it. Yeah. I, I, I think I largely agree.
40:54Like Mike Washington to me does feel like a pretty big fade.
40:58Like I think if he ends up at 36% ownership, it is one where I'm going to be monitoring it pretty, pretty closely.
41:06Like what the ownership actually comes in at. Cause like he's, yeah, he's going to project really well.
41:12I would guess that Sims are going to like Mike Washington.
41:15And I just, uh, I've, I've faded these, these plays and had some success with it in the past.
41:22Just like, you know what? I'm just not going to play that player because there is so much opportunity cost with, you
41:29can only play running back in three positions, the two running back slots and the flex.
41:34And this week in particular, there's some really good flex plays.
41:38Like there, there are a lot of tight ends that we want to play that could potentially make the flex obviously wide receivers there as well.
41:46So there's just so much opportunity costs that, you know, if Mike Washington does not score a touchdown, I'm going to feel really good about the fade.
41:55Most likely. I don't think he's going to rack up seven receptions and get there as like a PPR scam.
42:02So yeah, I think I'm, I'm with you on Mike Washington being a pretty good fade.
42:07If he is at 36% ownership and then Jameer Gibbs, he's a little bit tougher for me because he is so expensive.
42:15Like, yeah, you're like, he obviously he projects so well that like, I'm not going to full fade Jameer Gibbs.
42:21I think that would be a mistake for somebody playing as much as I'm playing.
42:26Cause he could just have three, four touchdowns and nobody should be surprised if he does.
42:31I don't know if I'm going to be North of 30%.
42:35Like, I think he's like a fantastic play. I still might come in slightly underweight, but I don't know that I will,
42:42because I don't think that there are that many running backs that I like really love on this slate.
42:49Like there's, there are a few that I, that I really like, but I don't think there's enough that I'm like, okay,
42:56I can just like fully fade this and play these other eight running backs that I love.
43:02Instead, there's, there's more like three or four that I'm like, I think that's pretty good play.
43:07And so, so I probably just do end up playing a lot of Gibbs also.
43:12What about beyond that? So, so those two are the, the chalkiest beyond those two.
43:17Chase Brown gets Miami. You have to imagine Chase Brown is going to be fairly popular.
43:2319% projected ownership. Thank you for putting it back on the screen.
43:27So I'm like trying to remember 19% feels pretty good to me for Chase Brown.
43:31But yeah, Chase Brown and up we have Chase Brown, Aaron Jones, still at 20% with Justin Jefferson, looking like he's going to return.
43:39Deandre Swift. You mentioned having interest there already. And then Braylon Allen, 5,400 against Cleveland.
43:44Let's talk about that grouping of four. So that'll, that'll be the rest of the chalk here.
43:50So start wherever you want of those four. Do you have a favorite?
43:54Do you have any full fades? What are you doing with that group?
43:59So early in the week, I was very into Chase Brown and I think I'll still play him some.
44:05Uh, I was mostly excited about what the role could be through the air if T Higgins or Jamar Chase were to
44:12miss, uh, where everybody's kind of like fighting to early in the week to play.
44:17Oh, do we play Dante Myers? Do we play Mike Gasicki?
44:21All, all of these cheap guys. It's like, I think we just play Chase Brown, who was over a 20% target share
44:28last week after Jamar Chase left the game. Uh, averages 22 DraftKings points per game, uh, in four games that T Higgins
44:35has missed since he took over the backfield. Uh, averages over 23 DraftKings points per game in games that Bengals have won by a touchdown or more.
44:44To me, he was the way to go on the Bengals.
44:48Uh, the Dolphins also an awesome matchup through the air.
44:51They've allowed the most schedule adjusted to opposing running backs in the passing game this season.
44:57So I think he's a solid play. Um, probably like, yeah, he, he's pretty good.
45:02I think DeAndre Swift is just assuming Kyle Monunga is out is just the best running back play on the slate.
45:09Yeah. Monunga officially ruled out. Um, the bears have the most valuable backfield in the NFL by a lot, by backfield expected fantasy points per game.
45:17They are averaging over 30. So you would expect their running backs to combine for 30 fantasy points, uh, roughly in each
45:24game, given the usage that they're seeing. The Packers are one of the top run funnels in the NFL by pass rate over expectation allowed.
45:33And you just get into a situation where if Swift sees even 70, 80% of this most valuable backfield in the league,
45:40rather than the 55% that he's been at over the last year and change.
45:45It's like, yeah, why would that not be the best play on the slate?
45:49It's a Ben Johnson offense that has always been top three in yards per carry and EPA per run.
45:56Uh, I I'm like, I'm half making that set up, but I just assume it's true for Ben Johnson.
46:02Like consistently has some of the most amazing run games in the NFL.
46:06Yep. Uh, and the workloads there for, yeah, I, that's like hard to beat for me for a 6k range guy.
46:13Deandre Swift this week. Yeah. Swift also looks fantastic to me.
46:17He's definitely one of, you know, I mentioned the three or four players that I really love.
46:23Swift makes that list for me. Chase Brown makes that list for me as well.
46:27The other two, I like Aaron Jones getting more and more expensive every weekend.
46:32Like he's been good, but he hasn't really been great.
46:35And the saints, I don't know that it's like a top notch matchup.
46:40So I'm that one. I'm a little bit less enthusiastic about, I don't know.
46:44Uh, how do you feel about Aaron Jones and then Braylon Allen?
46:48So on paper, the saints look like a good matchup, top five schedule adjusted to opposing running backs.
46:54Uh, but there's a couple things to that. One is that's just Jameer Gibbs and Bijan Robinson and, and Brian Robinson have super gone off against them.
47:03Uh, they held Ashen Gentty and Derek Henry to under 70 rushing yards each.
47:08Uh, Aaron Jones, while the workload has been good without Jordan Mason, uh, and he is a strong projected value because of
47:15that, he's been underperforming it, which is what I would expect out of like old Aaron Jones, who used to be one of the fun, efficient running backs.
47:24But that's not the case anymore. Uh, he's 18th of 30 running backs in rush yards over expectation per attempt.
47:31I, I just don't know that he's going out and gashing the saints on the ground.
47:36So yeah, relative to Deandre Swift being 300 cheaper, Chase Brown being 400 more that Aaron Jones is an easy fade to me.
47:44Um, yeah. What about Braylon Allen? How are, how are you feeling on Braylon?
47:49Yeah. I mean, we, we like, I, I sort of talked about it before the slate, cause it was like, he's one
47:56that I am like, I want to get excited about it.
48:00Cause Cleveland just allowing, uh, one of the top explosive run rates in the league.
48:05And then I'm like, man, I would love if Brees Hall was in this game.
48:10Like it's hard for me to get super excited about Braylon Allen, but also he had an awesome workload last week.
48:17Um, so I, I do think, yeah, I'm going to have some interest in a $5,400 Braylon Allen.
48:22Um, but I'm, I, I've been, I have not actually written up that game.
48:27I was trying to debate if I'm going to put him as a target or just somebody that's in my 150 set player pool.
48:35Um, and I was going to ask you your opinion of Braylon Allen.
48:39I actually like him. I think between him, Mike Washington and Emmanuel Wilson, in terms of the, like the really cheap sub
48:475,500 running backs on this slate, Braylon is my favorite.
48:50The reason for that is that the workload feels assured to me, regardless of game scripts, because we've seen Braylon Allen playing
48:57in all situations this year had a 94% snapshot.
49:00Last week without Reese Hall, he has a 100% backfield XFP share without Reese Hall.
49:05He's seen every single non breeze running back touch for the jets this year has mixed in at the goal line has been playing on third downs.
49:14The route share was really strong last week, 67%.
49:17Uh, they're just playing him in all situations. I, I'm not like a Braylon Allen fan.
49:22Braylon Allen has a weird, like hive of supporters that I don't count myself among, but yeah, in this matchup where the
49:30Browns are seven softest by EPA per rush allowed top five by rushing success rate allowed second highest explosive run rate allowed.
49:37As you mentioned, I do think there's a world where Allen just completely runs over them.
49:42And that that's like most of what the jets have to do on offense.
49:47And I'm sure they, they would be happy if it turned out that way.
49:52So I, yeah, I, I think because I'm assured of the workload and all you really need out of the jets is
49:59for them to run more than 32 freaking plays, which is what happened last week.
50:04Uh, but it, I get against a much worse Browns defense.
50:08I think that's almost assured that they will be more normal by play volume.
50:12They have been for the entire season up until last week.
50:16Uh, that, that just adds up to Braylon being the best to me.
50:20I don't know that Mike Washington's actually going to be used in all phases, in all situations.
50:26Uh, they, they've obviously been very reluctant to let him work in the passing game this season.
50:31That that's like where Gentie was shining. The most was in the receiving game.
50:36They haven't, hadn't given much of that to Washington at all.
50:40Uh, not unusual for a rookie running back to not be running a lot of routes, not be trusted in pass protection.
50:47Maybe we see, uh, is Dylan still around? Yeah.
50:50Pretty sure he's still on the team. Yeah. Yep.
50:53Maybe that's what we see, um, on passing downs for the Raiders.
50:57Uh, so yeah, I think Braylon because he's just the most game script proof of any of these cheaper running backs is going to be my favorite.
51:06Yeah. I think that I'm with you on Braylon being my favorite.
51:10Like I'm not super in on Emmanuel Wilson in a, you know, tougher matchup with the Niners.
51:16Um, Braylon, it's funny. I'm looking at, uh, the numbers from last week, a hundred percent of the backfield expected fantasy points for, for Braylon.
51:24That's obviously just because Isaiah Davis had zero touches.
51:27I do like, I assume that if the pie gets bigger and like they, they have, you know, 25 carries as a
51:34team, he's not going to get all 25. I would assume that Isaiah Davis at some point mixes in a little bit,
51:41but we don't know exactly where that point is.
51:44Like maybe, maybe he just does have a true bell cow workload that will hold up with even a bigger pie if they run more plays.
51:53So yeah, I like the call of Braylon Allen being relatively, relatively strong chalk, better, better in my opinion than, uh, Mike
52:00Washington at, you know, half the projected ownership or I guess more than half, but, uh, significantly less.
52:06What else? Who else do you like? So we, that that's kind of the, the chalk as far as I've seen, I
52:14just brought up Emmanuel Wilson as well as being somebody that I'm not like super in love with that 15% ownership.
52:20Um, are you going to McCaffrey this week? We did see he had his highest, uh, uh, share of the expected fantasy points for the Niners last week.
52:30It was up close to 30%, so still lower than last year, but did it has been rising and and that was in, you know, a tighter game.
52:39So I would think that it's going to continue to be higher in, in this should also be a tighter game for
52:46the Niners, but also they're facing the Seahawks. So I don't know that I can be that excited about McCaffrey.
52:53Are you going there? Are you kind of staying away from the Niners because you're afraid of the matchup?
52:59I think if I'm paying all the way up for someone that's not Jameer Gibbs, I would probably rather than play McCaffrey,
53:07I'd probably find the 600 to play Jackson Smith and Jigba instead is how I would approach it.
53:13Uh, so yeah, probably not for me on McCaffrey.
53:15Uh, I guess in theory, that's a fun mini stack because both CMC and JSN are very much benefited by closer competitive
53:23game scripts where JSN needs more dropbacks. Uh, McCaffrey just doesn't play nearly as much if the game isn't competitive or if the 49ers aren't trailing.
53:31So I guess on, in that sense, that could be fun.
53:35I haven't tried building with that, but that might be an interesting mini.
53:39Uh, don't know if it's better than the George Kittle JSN mini, uh, for similar reasons, but yeah, so he's fine.
53:46Um, Emmanuel Wilson, I do think is okay. You just, I think you just want to play him with the Seahawks defense, which is only 2800 this week.
53:56Uh, because Wilson was in a, like with heavy scare quotes around it, bell cow role last week.
54:02Uh, he was at, let's see, it was like a 75% backfield XFP share.
54:06Uh, would have been eighth most on the week.
54:09Of course he's priced well below that at 5,300 49ers are a top six schedule adjusted matchup for opposing running backs.
54:16They're the biggest run funnel in the NFL by pass rate over expectation.
54:20So if the Seahawks control this game, I, then I think Wilson could be a very strong play.
54:26Uh, but we've seen in when they've been in negative game scripts.
54:30So like, uh, against the commanders in week three, I think at the end of that game, it was all George Helani,
54:38uh, playing on passing downs, running more routes. So yeah, you just need the Seahawks to like stay clearly in command.
54:45So that's why I like the Wilson DST stack.
54:48Um, but outside of that, yeah, I think clearly worse than Raylan Allen.
54:52Not really many other running backs that jump out to me.
54:56There's like one. Yeah. I don't know. Scott Barrett made an impassioned argument for Jeremiah love just on the a, he's awesome
55:03leverage on every other piece on that game. Uh, B we were very excited to play him thinking he'd be in an
55:10every down bell cow workload last week. Uh, that that's why I didn't win a bunch of money last week.
55:17Cause I played a ton of Jeremiah love, uh, gets hurt during the game, which they like love, like brush it off and kind of lied about it.
55:26Uh, Lafleur said that he actually injured his other ankle.
55:29So not the one that he had injured coming into the preseason.
55:33And you could, I think you could pretty easily say, well, that that's why he didn't see a massive workload.
55:40Maybe he will this week. I don't know. Our Jeff Mueller, our injury guy, isn't that bullish on love in the near
55:47term just because of the need to rehab that ankle.
55:51Um, but that's like one angle you could take is just say, Hey, if the, if lions Cardinals doesn't go off, if
55:58I'm not playing the pieces in that game, the way it maybe happens is the, like the lions just don't show up at all.
56:06Love actually gets positive game script, uh, potentially breaks off a long touchdown or two.
56:11Uh, I, I, everything I said in terms of being very complimentary of him as a player, as a prospect last week still applies.
56:19Like he could have a massive tournament winning score on 14 or 15 touches.
56:23Um, but I, I don't know that I think of the running backs we talked about it.
56:29That's like might be all you need this week.
56:32There's just some very clear, great plays. Let me throw two more names at you.
56:37Uh, first one, Jalen Warren, just like, uh, I'm assuming Rico Dattles is going to be out again this week.
56:44Jalen Warren has had kind of a bell cow role for the Steelers.
56:48I think that's going to continue in a nice matchup with the Colts.
56:52So he stands out to me. The price is coming up, but I, I still think it's fair price.
56:59I still really like Jalen Warren. Do you have any interest there?
57:03Um, it is, is Rico Dattles confirmed out or no?
57:06Is that's up in the air right now? I think it's still up in the air.
57:11I don't think that it is totally confirmed. Um, I think it was, yeah, I guess he's still, it's still questionable.
57:18So I guess that would, maybe we can wait and you can, uh, save that opinion for whether he plays.
57:25I just, I'm leaning towards Rico Dattles is going to sit.
57:28Um, but obviously if Dattles plays, then that takes away the Warren play.
57:33Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't, if he plays, I wouldn't have much interest when Chase Brown is 200 more expensive.
57:39Deandre Swift is 500 cheaper. All that. Uh, if there's no Dattles, then yeah, he definitely becomes interesting from a workload perspective.
57:46Uh, yeah, he's just seen 90% plus snap shares without Rico Dattles.
57:50He's played awesome. I love Jalen Warren. He's one of my favorite running backs in the league.
57:56The guys just top five and miss tackles force per touch, uh, yards after contact for attempt every single season.
58:03Uh, he's just never gotten this bell cow role.
58:06He has the last couple of games. It's been awesome.
58:09The one note I had is that the Colts tend to funnel everything underneath within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.
58:16Uh, they're like allowing the second most receiving yards per game in that area.
58:21Jalen Warren has a 21% target share within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, the highest on the Steelers.
58:27So that certainly is in play to me without doubt.
58:31All, uh, just the, yeah, the PPR scam from Aaron Rogers can we've seen be very strong.
58:36It could continue this week. Yeah, I guess I thought Dotto was more, was closer to doubtful looking at, uh, practice reports.
58:44He did practice in a limited fashion today. Uh, I see, uh, Blitzberg tweeted out that he's looking a little bit healthier today.
58:51So maybe, maybe truly questionable. Maybe we'll just have to wait and find out on game day.
58:57But if, if doubt was out that I'm going to be a big fan of Warren once again, and then the last
59:04game, uh, the last running back I wanted to throw at you and it is a bit of a knee last play,
59:11I guess, um, is, is trivia on Henderson. Uh, just because, you know, the, the Patriots are playing against the Raiders who
59:19have allowed the, I want to say seventh most highest explosive run rate to running backs on the season.
59:25Trevion Henderson obviously has that explosive play upside. And then reminder Stevenson, it sounds like he's going to play is the latest,
59:32but like just earlier today, Vrabel was like, yeah, we, we have not ruled him out as of yet.
59:39Like it sounded like he's, he was like in, in Vrabel's mind, pretty questionable.
59:43And then Ramondra said, I'm, I'm ready to go, but you know, you kind of have to wonder if he's going to
59:51be limited at all, in which case we would just see Trevion Henderson take on a bigger workload.
59:57So at like low ownership at $5,000 in a matchup that, you know, should suit a running back with explosive play abilities,
60:04any interest in, in Trevion Henderson for tournaments? Yeah, I don't hate it.
60:08If the thought is just, yeah, you need one or two explosive plays to make his day.
60:14I think Henderson's capable of that. Certainly isn't going to get any of the high value work if Stevenson's in the game,
60:21but yeah, maybe there's a world where that just doesn't matter.
60:25Uh, I, to, what do you, what would you say if I raised you an RJ Harvey at 5,200 as a sort
60:32of, as like a Neil S play where he just leads the Broncos in target share right now, uh, is just behind
60:39Pat Bryant in receiving yards per game for the team lead.
60:43Pat Bryant just went on IR. Yeah. It's like that stat itself is like the most damning stat, like the worst symptom
60:50of a deeply sick Broncos offense ever that it's RJ Harvey that's leading them in usage, but it is a strong schematic matchup against the chargers.
60:59Harvey sees his targets per hour run come way up against two high looks.
61:03Snicks just loves checking it down against what the chargers show.
61:07It could be another big RJ Harvey game. I don't know if I'll get there.
61:12Maybe if, if I were, uh, yeah, it may be an MME, I would have it in mind, but yeah, that's just another name I thought about.
61:21Well, both Trevin Henderson and RJ Harvey, I have listed as MME plays.
61:25Like they're, they're not like players that I am planning on playing.
61:29If I'm hand building five lineups, I don't have them currently in my 20 lineup player pool, but in a one 50 set, I think both are strong.
61:39And I like, I'm, I'm borderline on, on Trevion in particular in my 20, 20 lineup set.
61:44I'm like almost interested enough to play him there.
61:47Um, but yeah, I think, I think RJ Harvey, uh, for, for all the reasons you said in play in large field
61:55tournaments, just not like a huge target. Any other running backs you want to talk about?
62:00No, I think that's good for me. All right, let's move on to wide receivers.
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62:29And you can use promo code DFS. Looking at the wide receivers, not a surprise that the two highest ownership come from that chalky game.
62:37Aminorah St. Brown and Michael Wilson. Aminorah 7,900 coming in at 25% ownership.
62:42Michael Wilson 6,200 coming in at 22% ownership. Are you, are these the wide receivers that you're playing from these teams, Ryan?
62:49Um, we talked about same round already. I really like his matchup.
62:53Wilson has a strong schematic matchup. Both of these guys do.
62:57So yeah, I mean, I'm playing these guys if I'm playing this game.
63:01Uh, but yeah, it's, it's, I'll stop holding it back.
63:04So the play I wanted to run by you for this game is Kendrick Bourne.
63:09This is, I wondered, I wondered if that was it.
63:12Okay. So the lions have allowed the most schedule adjusted fantasy points per game to the slot of any team.
63:19Kendrick Bourne runs 68% of his routes from the slot.
63:22Uh, he's been, he's run at least two thirds of the routes in every game this year.
63:28Since the start of last season, when he's played at least that much, he averages just over nine draft Kings points per game.
63:36He's gone over 15 in three of those 11, including in one game this year.
63:41Even if you got 15 draft Kings points out of Kendrick Bourne, who nobody is playing, who, if he scores a touchdown,
63:48he's taking it away from the other receivers in this game.
63:52He's been playing, has that best possible matchup in the slot.
63:55Uh, by XFP per game, Kendrick Bourne actually has a better role than Marvin Harrison Jr.
64:00Right now. Why not? I guess I either like throw him on as a bring back, include him in a Brissette stack.
64:08Uh, however, I may, maybe you tell me what the best way is to play it.
64:13Um, but yeah, he's to me jumps out as yeah.
64:16He hasn't had like a strong role really this year in terms of targets commanded, but we've seen it in the past
64:24from him where he's just had these games mostly under Kyle Shanahan that he just gets targeted over and over and over as this massive PPR scam.
64:33I don't know. It crossed my mind this week.
64:36I would normally never care outside of like specifically this slate where everyone's playing every other receiver.
64:41Uh, there are all of these other sub 4k wide receivers that people are probably going to punt with.
64:48Uh, your, your Dante Myers is, um, and some other guys we'll talk about like, it's, it's not as if it's totally
64:55crazy to play a sub 4k receiver when not that great of a role to this point in the season.
65:01Like, I just think born is a fun way to get leverage both ways in that sense.
65:07So I, I was, you know, writing up this game and I looked at it and I, you know, I saw the,
65:14uh, the, the slot, you know, the expected fantasy points, schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to slot receivers on Detroit.
65:21Right. I looked up, okay. Who's running routes in the slot the most for Arizona.
65:26And I saw Kendrick born and I thought about, should I add this as a play on Arizona?
65:32And then I looked at the projection and ultimately I didn't add it, but you've changed my mind.
65:38I'm going to add Kendrick born to my player pool.
65:41Cause cause I agree with you. This is like, if you're playing that game, we're looking for ways to play that game
65:49in a smart way that is different than how other people are playing it.
65:53Also, we, we talk about like, it's difficult to get to all the players you want because they're so expensive.
66:00Well, here's a way to do it. If you want to play that game, $3,400 receiver.
66:05Um, yeah, no, I, I like the call of, of Kendrick born because he like, he doesn't project that well.
66:12Nobody's going to play him, but he could easily takes away from the other receivers on the team.
66:18I like him both in a Brissette stack and as a bring back for Jared golf.
66:23I'm probably not doing it much as a one-off, although I think you could, uh, you know, for, for the same, like
66:30the leverage reasons of like, well, what if he just pops off for two touchdowns?
66:35You're taking those away from Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, uh, the other players on Arizona.
66:40So I don't hate the idea, I guess, of playing it as a one-off either.
66:45Yeah. You asked, what do you think is the best way to play it?
66:50And I'm like, I guess you can, you can kind of make a case for, for either of just like use them
66:57as a player in the game that, you know, allows you to get up to the expensive guys.
67:03Cause that's going to be tough to do, but you could also, you could display him as a leverage play off the other players on Arizona.
67:12Um, so I, I guess one way to do both of those things, I guess would be the, just play him in
67:19a Detroit stack, play, play him with, golf with Amin Ra gives and then use him as your, uh, your piece from
67:26Arizona where he's getting leverage on the expensive pieces.
67:29Um, and he's allowing you to pay up for the players on Detroit would be one way to do it.
67:36But I think those are all like pretty, pretty strong options.
67:40You can play him in any type of lineup.
67:43So yeah, I think, I think you're right. I'm adding, I'm adding Kendrick Bourne to my player pool.
67:49Um, I like that, that shout. Um, so we went right from the chalkiest players on the slate to like, let's talk about Kendrick Bourne.
67:57Yeah. You did not bury the lead there. Long on, uh, on who you like as the contrarian piece on Arizona.
68:04Um, I assume you like him better than like Tesla who like actually finally kind of broke out.
68:10I think that was last week where, where they like targeted him quite a bit.
68:15Um, but I, I'm not really targeting Tesla. I have not looked closely at him though.
68:20I guess maybe, maybe you can make the case that he's ascending a little bit.
68:25Um, yeah, I mean, he's maybe more classically when you, when you think of, Oh, who's the cheap under owned receiver that
68:32I should play to get leverage that can like hit three X or four X on one play that, that probably is Tesla more than Bourne.
68:41But I, I don't, I think the role has not been great for Tesla.
68:46I'm, I'm looking it up quickly and 11 and a half percent target share in the most recent game.
68:52He ran 83% of the routes, which is, you know, but then just 11 and a half percent target share, even that
68:59game, he really got there in garbage time. So I don't know.
69:03And Tesla has always been like, he runs routes and then just doesn't really, uh, get used that much anyway.
69:10Cause he's just like really pretty far down that pecking order.
69:13Whereas I think Arizona, like there's a spot for, uh, for Kendrick Bourne to be the wide receiver too on Arizona.
69:20So, um, I, I do prefer Bourne over Tesla.
69:23I also think I would be less surprised to see Tesla suddenly get four or 5% ownership as opposed to Bourne.
69:30I think it's likely to get overlooked. Um, yeah.
69:33Yeah. Tesla, Tesla had just a 53% route share in week three.
69:37Um, and I would say before the year, one of the, one of part of like my call on Sam Laporta for this season was the lion.
69:46Tens offensive coordinator, Drew Petsing and his staff were talking a lot about alternating between more two tight end sets and more
69:53three wide receiver sets, like from game to game based on matchup.
69:57So I do think the, just the playing time for Tesla is very unpredictable.
70:02Um, and with, as with Bourne, it's been very predictable.
70:05He's yeah. He's running fewer routes than like Michael Wilson, but he's been involved.
70:10He's been the primary slot option every single game.
70:13So yeah, I think I, I would still give the lean to Bourne too.
70:18Yeah. Agreed. All right. Let's get back to the chalk.
70:21So we've already talked about the top two there.
70:24Trey Harris. Now we have a QJ is outlad McConkey questionable.
70:28So Trey Harris kind of popping at 4,100. Um, he certainly is not a can't fail chalk play.
70:34Um, even at, you know, 4,100 with his teammates out, but I think I like him better than Mike Washington at least.
70:41Cause he's, I mean, he's coming in half the ownership.
70:44So I think like, all right, I don't mind that for Trey Harris.
70:48Uh, do you feel differently? Are you, uh, are you opposed to Trey Harris?
70:53I mean, I think I'm just opposed to chargers is how I feel like, yeah, you get, uh, no Pats or tan in this game.
71:01Um, and yeah, I mean, Trey Harris is the only receiver left, but I don't know that I want the only receiver left on this chargers offense.
71:10That's just last week. They leaned way more into throwing to their running backs a ton after not really doing that at all through the first three games.
71:20And they had at least a little bit more success.
71:23Uh, so yeah, I, I don't know. And another note I had was that the Bronc, the Broncos generally teams have been
71:30targeting them closer to the line of scrimmage within 10 yards.
71:34Uh, and a run a Gadsden actually led the team in targets last week.
71:39Uh, had the lower a dot relative to Trey Harris.
71:42So if I'm first, I don't know that I'm doing this at all, but yeah, if, if I want to play a charger, right, I'd almost say.
71:51Like give me a Rondae Gadsden. Who's just as gross of a play as Trey Harris to me at way less ownership.
71:58Uh, and with, with maybe like the better matchup angle there, he's even cheaper.
72:03Um, the projections will disagree. Chris Wecht has Trey Harris.
72:06Yeah. As one of the top point per dollar values, but I, I'm like not really vibing.
72:12With Trey Harris. And, and I haven't been with the chargers, uh, for most of this season.
72:17And unfortunately as, as a noted lad McConkie bull.
72:20Yeah. I forget that you are, you are the lad McConkie guy.
72:24Hopefully you can come back healthy and you can start playing lad at some point.
72:29Um, all right, let's, let's move on. I mean, bears.
72:33Uh, so last week we were in on Kalief Raymond.
72:36I think that's going to be kind of a, like any week, any given week.
72:41We don't really know what's going to happen. That's kind of what Ben Johnson said.
72:46It's like, yeah, Colson Lovelin is going to have his week.
72:49He said like, Kalief Raymond is doing a great job.
72:53I'm not getting this. Not obviously not a direct quote, but like he's doing a great job there.
72:59It's going to be weeks or is not getting as much going to be weeks or Colson Lovelin's getting it, whatever.
73:06Um, I think it's going to continue to be kind of unpredictable with the bears.
73:11Um, do you, are there any particular bears that you love?
73:14I guess of the wide receivers here, you mentioned Romo Dunze.
73:18I guess we've already talked about this to some extent.
73:21Is Odunze the bet you're making? If you're making a bet on bears receivers this week?
73:27I guess so. I think it would only be if I were playing Baygent though, I'm just much more into playing Deandre
73:34Swift and saying, yeah, the Packers, one of the biggest run run funnels.
73:38I think that's probably how that game goes most of the time.
73:42Um, so yeah, I, I don't know. Yeah. 14% on Luther burden.
73:46It makes sense. He's only 4,900. Uh, certainly one, one of the most, yeah, he's, he's efficient.
73:52He's exciting. I still believe his, he's as good as I believed he was before the season, but yeah, just the passing
73:59volume has been very up or down. The usage has been very up and down.
74:04Um, yeah, I, I don't think I need even really want to go to bears as one offs this week outside of Deandre Swift.
74:12I think we talked about so many wide receivers while we were talking about, uh, quarterbacks that, you know, don't, don't have
74:19to go through the entire list because we've talked about so many of them, but are there any wide receivers that we
74:27haven't talked about yet that you are taking a big stand on any, any, uh, that you are like expected to be well over the field?
74:35Um, Carnell Tate. We are showing 7% ownership on right now.
74:39Uh, I, I think I briefly mentioned him before, but the way I look at this is he's 5,300 tracking for single digit ownership.
74:47Uh, I I'm too young to remember, but I'm told like back in the glory days of DFS, when the fields were
74:54softer, uh, Carnell Tate would probably be 25% rostered after the week that he just had, uh, in the glory days of point chasing.
75:02That's not the case anymore, but like now I want to do the point chase sort of, and it's not just a point chase to be clear.
75:11Tate, uh, by first read, first read target share through any rookie wide receivers, first four games in the fantasy points data
75:18era ranks third best behind only Drake London and Puka Nakua.
75:22The usage has been amazing. He leads all wide receivers in air yard share, uh, with the Texans allowing the second most
75:29receiving yards per game on the deep ball, the second most schedule adjusted fantasy points per game to opposing wide receivers.
75:36It's a big spread as it usually is for the Titans.
75:40They should have to drop back and throw a lot.
75:43I just think there's a world here where a month from now in hindsight, we look back and are like, wow, we
75:50were able to play Carnell Tate at 5,300 against a opposing defense that it turns out has been really awful.
75:57Like D'Amico Ryan's having to take play calling back over, uh, which I, I don't know that that matters at all really, or changes anything for me.
76:06Uh, it sounded like it didn't for at any of our charters or any of our staff that we talked about it
76:13with in our projections called on Friday. So yeah, you, you just get Tate who's averaging 18.7 DK over his last two games, uh, top five fast funnel.
76:23It could just be the next ascending super amazing wide receiver talent.
76:27We didn't see that at Ohio state, but he was competing for targets with the best wide receiver prospect of all time, Jeremiah Smith.
76:35So it's understandable to some extent. He was always one of the most efficient per target receivers, uh, of any guy to come out recently.
76:43So yeah, I, I think there it's like really underrated that Tate could, I, and I don't know this, like we need
76:50to see way more, but at the price and the ownership, I'm willing to just play it until we find out.
76:57I think. I think part of it is like some of us are struggling to believe that Houston's defense is actually this bad.
77:05Like I, I, I'm certainly guilty of that where I'm like, are they really going to continue being this bad?
77:11And then they continue to be this bad, but it's like, well, that was the Cowboys.
77:17Now they, now they're playing the Titans. Are they going to really continue to be this bad?
77:22It'll be interesting to see. But yeah, I, at 7% ownership, I don't hate rolling the dice there and just hoping like,
77:30yeah, maybe they really are this bad. And Cardinal Tate really is ascending to like being a superstar at this point.
77:37Um, so yeah, I, I like the call of Cardinal Tate.
77:40Cardinal Tate at 7% certainly in my player pool.
77:43Um, any others that you want to call out?
77:46Although like I can start throwing some names at you also.
77:50Uh, yeah, I guess I'll, I'll like mention two others that super stand out Antonio Williams.
77:55I talked about him earlier with Jaden Daniels, but he, he stands out to me as one of the better punts.
78:02I would much rather play Antonio Williams. Uh, we're showing 4% projected ownership right now.
78:07And he's a few hundred cheaper than Trey Harris.
78:10I think Antonio Williams is just clearly a better play than Harris.
78:14Um, same on Roman Wilson, who is the big stand that Scott Barrett is taking this week on Wilson, where he was
78:21a full-time player in week two without Michael Pittman up at an 85% route share.
78:26Uh, he's been part-time the last two weeks, but Michael Pittman not playing this weekend.
78:31Uh, even despite him being a part-time player, Wilson, is only 60 air yards behind DK Metcalf this year.
78:37He has seen only one fewer first read target than Metcalf over the last two weeks.
78:43Uh, he just has been so efficient. It's the Mike McCarthy slot role that we were talking about before the season.
78:50Uh, in, in terms of Mike McCarthy slot receiver has almost always just finished as a wide receiver.
78:56One. I don't know that Roman Wilson's going to do that, but yeah, he's 37.
79:01700. Nobody's going to, or not nobody, but he's single digit ownership when there are punts that are projecting way higher than that.
79:08I think he's a really, really good play. Yeah.
79:11Yeah. Roman Wilson also great, great matchup. Colts defense is allowed the fourth most fantasy points per game to slot receivers on the season.
79:19Wilson 60% from the slot as, as you noted.
79:22Uh, so I like the call on Roman Wilson.
79:25I also put in my MME list, Jeremy Bernard, cause it was, it was Bernard who saw eight targets in the last
79:33game that Michael Pittman missed and also ran. Let's see if I can find my notes here real quick.
79:39Uh, 76.1% of the routes, eight targets for Jeremy Bernard, um, in that game.
79:43So he benefited. I think, um, I, I, I, I, I mean, I'm not going to say it's a step too far.
79:51It's a similar thesis. Yeah. Um, I, I, I guess, yeah, yeah.
79:55Yeah. The route shares last week were not that different Bernard at 42%.
79:59Yeah, no, I think that's fair. I would expect Wilson to play more.
80:03Um, yeah. So I guess Bernard slightly flipped him last week.
80:07Yeah. I guess. So to me, it's more the, like with Michael Pittman out.
80:12So I think that we're, we basically seen like, um, that Roman Wilson, I think is just like the, the slot receiver
80:19who, you know, run some routes that are not slot.
80:22But then Jeremy Bernard in, in week two, at least seem to take on the Michael Pittman role a little bit more,
80:30like take on the, the outside routes. Um, didn't, didn't run as much in the slot.
80:35Uh, so I think that he's the one that's going to see the bigger boost in route participation with Michael Pittman out.
80:42I could be wrong with that's, that is at least the thesis there.
80:46Um, yeah, I like it. Uh, the, the other one that I have as a pretty big target this week is I
80:54already mentioned him, but Chris bell, um, I think is ran 80% of the routes last week.
80:59Didn't do anything, but he's been, you know, 16 to 17% target share.
81:04The dolphins are going to have to be most likely throwing to keep up.
81:08I know you already said no interest in Malik Willis.
81:12They're like Chris bell literally like barely grazed. The sideline would have had a really long, nice touchdown against the Vikings.
81:19Um, this week, Malik Willis specifically, said that they like their chemistry is growing on those, like, I forget what he called it.
81:26Like those like kind of scramble plays where they have to like make something out of nothing, uh, that they're, they have chemistry developing there.
81:34So I think Chris Bella at 3,600 2% ownership, uh, kind of role ascending and getting a little bit healthier is interesting to me for tournaments.
81:43Uh, are you, I know you're not really interested in playing dolphins.
81:47I assume Chris bell is, uh, in that group of you're probably not playing a ton.
81:52Yeah. I, I, I was a Chris bell hater as a prospect.
81:56I, I never really bought the hype from an analytics perspective.
82:00Uh, I, I mentioned earlier that Kevin Coleman, like absent draft capital would clearly had like a better production profile to me than bell did.
82:08Um, so I, yeah, I've been a hater and a doubter and hating and doubting all on the dolphins has generally worked out this year.
82:17Um, but I, but I hear you. Yeah. I, I, I get it.
82:21Yeah. He had that long touchdown called back certainly could.
82:24He's the, the, the film bros definitely are much higher on Chris bell than, than I've ever been.
82:30Um, and, and yeah, you could see the breakout come at some point.
82:34All right. So it's Neil and film bros versus Ryan and trade this week.
82:39Who's it going to be Chris bell or Kevin Colm?
82:42Who's going to get the two receptions for 36 yards?
82:46And hopefully a touchdown is what we're hoping for here, I guess.
82:50Uh, but I, yeah, I'm hoping that I think Chris bell could potentially.
82:54Have more than that. So I just wanted to restate that I actually have a lot of interest there, but, uh, that is fair.
83:02I think, um, we going back to Malik neighbors at all this week.
83:06I think you can. Yeah. I said, you like James, I guess you did mention him.
83:12Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mentioned him earlier. Um, pro would probably only get there with James or on.
83:18Yeah. You can play him as a bring back in Jaden Daniels stuff, but yeah, it's a really strong matchup.
83:24It's a cover for heavy matchup that he has seen his targets per outrun yards per outrun come way up against.
83:31Uh, the commanders have been a really big pass funnel top three by pass rate over expectation allowed.
83:37They have been very vulnerable to outside wide receivers, most schedule adjusted fancy points per game allowed second fewest to the slot.
83:44So that could push targets toward Malik neighbors, uh, in a way from Isaiah likely who has had an amazing role.
83:51Like the guy had a 30% target share. Uh, he's yeah.
83:55Had just been a top five tight end by volume by expected fancy points per game.
84:00It could definitely include likely in like a double stack with neighbors and Jameis, but yeah, as a one-off for a bring
84:08back, I think I prefer neighbors because of that matchup note.
84:11Uh, the commanders have also given up a lot to opposing tight ends, but it's all been to inline tight end.
84:18So it's been to guys like Dallas Goddard, AJ Barner, Jake Ferguson, almost all of their production is comes as a result
84:26of tight ends lining up like attached to the line of scrimmage likely almost never does that.
84:31He just effectively plays slot receiver where again, they've, they've been, uh, very, very tough against slot receivers so far this year.
84:38So I, I do like the, the neighbors angle a lot.
84:42Um, as a bring back, I, yeah, maybe I will just, maybe I will play him as a one-off.
84:48I felt, yeah, you, you talked me into it last week.
84:52I, I got, yeah, I got onto the Malik neighbors train, had the awful jump scare on the first play of the
84:59game as he went, went down and looked like he re-injured his shoulder.
85:04But he, he came back and had a great game.
85:07Yeah, I, I'm into it. Yeah, that worked out so well and it could have been so much more last week if
85:14they, they just stopped targeting him in the entire second half.
85:18And then of course, all you really needed was CD lamb last week.
85:22So it, uh, it almost was a big thing and it was still ended up pretty good.
85:28Um, Josh Downs, I was so disappointed. He had like a great, great matchup, um, last week against the commanders.
85:34I guess not as good for slot receivers. Didn't really do it that week.
85:39But prior to that, he had, you know, 20 targets in the previous two games with no Alec Pierce theoretically benefited, uh, should benefit from Keenan Allen.
85:48Actually, I don't know if Keenan Allen's back for this game.
85:52Regardless, I think Josh Downs strong enough role, but not a great matchup.
85:56Um, is, is he just too expensive at this point?
85:59Or do you have any interest in Josh Downs?
86:02Yeah, I don't think I'm going to play him.
86:05Um, it's a tougher schematic matchup for him where Tyler Warren is the one who gets by far the most usage against
86:13cover three, which the Steelers, uh, have played a ton or their defensive coordinator has played over 40% of it in 15 of his last 21 games.
86:22Uh, so yeah, it's to me, I'm not that interested in any cults.
86:26Really? Daniel Jones has just played so horrendously. Uh, but yeah, especially in this spot, I'm not that interested in downs.
86:33Jalen Waddle, any interest there? So that's like the other side of the RJ Harvey coin where it's like, yeah, this offense
86:40has been completely broken every week, except for week two, uh, when Harvey was out and Jalen Waddle went off and had
86:47whatever it was like a 40% target share. Uh, I think that's like the intended plan for this offense.
86:54And maybe you could argue, yeah, there's a bit of a squeaky wheel element where Sean Payton is taking play calling back over this week.
87:02Although he was very involved in calling plays and the offensive game plan this whole time.
87:07It's not as if he just wasn't, uh, but yeah, maybe with Payton, you see usage forced back toward Waddle.
87:14I don't know though. I think this one's kind of more on Bo Nix, just constantly taking the check down, uh, going
87:21to RJ Harvey, not like, yeah, just passing up open receivers.
87:25So it's interesting. I don't know if I'll get there.
87:28Um, but yeah, I mean, Waddle at 5% is pretty good.
87:32I think I, I think I'll take like Malik neighbors straight up there though.
87:36Uh, $200 more expensive and the same projected ownership.
87:39Yeah. Uh, what one final name that I knew throughout is Casey Concepcion as a pivot off of Trey Harris.
87:46He's only a hundred dollars more expensive. Um, you know, it's, it's not a great matchup looking at schedule adjusted fancy points against the jets.
87:54Um, but Casey, like, I think he's like kind of an ascending rookie a little bit.
88:00Any interest there? Yeah, he's decent. I don't mind him.
88:03Uh, it's, it's not a good matchup for the Browns passing game in general based on schedule adjusted so far this year,
88:10but they've been the most vulnerable in the slot.
88:13It's mostly the outside wide receivers that the jets have shut down, uh, Concepcion playing.
88:18Yeah. 64% slot rate this year. Uh, yeah, just has kind of clearly like the most stable week to week role just
88:25because he gets all the design targets, all the low eight odd stuff.
88:30I think you could quibble with like, what's the upside of Concepcion at 4,200, but Hey, we're, we're playing Kendrick Bourne on this slate, man.
88:38So maybe that's like not even a fair criticism.
88:41So yeah, I, I, I am, I'm cool with Concepcion.
88:44Maybe it gets a little bit of a rushing work, you know, more, more vulnerable on the ground.
88:50Maybe it gets, uh, one of those explosive runs, uh, for Cleveland.
88:54I don't know. I have some interest. I also didn't realize he was up to 11% ownership.
89:00He was looking pretty contrarian earlier in the week when I started looking at this and he's now looking actually fairly popular.
89:07So I'll play some, but yeah, less, less exciting at 11%.
89:11Any other wide receivers that you want to talk about?
89:14Um, I think we're good. Yeah. I don't think I'm forgetting anyone major.
89:19Um, I, I wrote up Garrett Wilson as having a really strong schematic matchup against the man coverage, heavy Browns.
89:25Denzel Ward doesn't shadow anymore. Uh, Wilson's role has just been amazing.
89:29Obviously not last week because similar to Braylon Allen, the jets just didn't run nearly enough plays for anybody to matter.
89:36Uh, but I, yeah, I don't mind going back to Garrett Wilson this week at all.
89:41Uh, he's 6,600. That's probably, that's probably it at wide receiver for me.
89:46And like I said, um, when it comes to, if you're playing wide receivers outside of lions Cardinals, just real, really make sure you're stacking with your quarterback.
89:55You're choosing the stack, like the stack that can beat that game.
89:59Uh, Chris Olave. I don't know if I'm playing him like outside of Tyler shock lineups, but I think he's a great play in within a shock lineup.
90:08Like just that type of stuff, uh, is what?
90:11Yeah. I'm trying to stay really correlated at receiver this week more, more so than, than ever.
90:17Yep. I think that makes sense. All right. Let's move on to tight ends.
90:21We've already talked about several tight ends. Um, so we, you know, probably don't have that many left that we haven't talked about.
90:29Um, but you've already mentioned liking Sam Laporta quite a bit.
90:33Uh, we've talked about Trey McBride within the stacks.
90:36Brock Bowers down at 11% ownership. Um, how much interest?
90:39I guess you talked about that also. You talked about liking Brock Bowers as a pivot off of the, uh, the Arizona stack going to that Vegas stack.
90:48Um, we've talked about Isaiah likely not as good of a schematic match or a matchup as it appears on paper because
90:56he's not an inline tight end, uh, but still, you know, interested enough at 4,300 9% ownership.
91:01Are there any tight ends that we have not talked about that you want to talk about or earnings that you want
91:09to talk about more in depth than we already have?
91:12Uh, I mean, George Kittle's an amazing play. Like he will be until he gets priced up to 6.5 or 7k.
91:19Um, by Scott Barrett gave this stat on catching points, but by over your lap, over every player's last 12 games, Kittle
91:26easily leads, uh, the entire slate in fantasy points per dollar relative to the dollar amount on this slate that he costs.
91:335,200, uh, yeah, remains the top three receiver by everything per route behind only Puka Nakua, Jackson Smith and Jigba over the last two seasons.
91:42Uh, he looks freaking amazing. The screen that he took to the house was absurd.
91:47How fast that guy was moving for somebody that, yeah, a 30 year old that tours Achilles less than nine months ago.
91:54That was just insane. So yeah. Yeah. Like if like, if you're fading the McBride, Laporta chalk, um, what I guess I
92:01didn't talk about JSN really, but the Kittle JSN mini is a fun way to get off of that where yet you're
92:09still like paying way up to JSN. Uh, JSN Kittle should be pretty positively correlated.
92:14JSN's always been much better in, uh, games that stay close.
92:17Uh, so I, I think that's a strong angle, uh, to, to get some George Kittle.
92:22Um, outside of that. Yeah. Most of these tight ends don't make my heart sing a ton.
92:28Uh, I think I have some, some interest in Michael Mayer in only in Kirk Cousins lineups.
92:34Uh, mayor's role has been effectively the same both with, and without Brock Bowers.
92:38Uh, he's running the same route share. His target share is up slightly, uh, but his XFP per game has gone much
92:46higher because the Raiders offense is better with Brock Bowers.
92:49They're throwing more, they're getting downfield. They're getting to the end zone more.
92:53Uh, so mayor at 3,500 on those lineups is something I'll at least think about when I'm building.
92:59Um, I mentioned Jawan Johnson. Um, Mike Gisicki, if T Higgins is out, has been a strong play for the last couple of seasons.
93:07Um, since the start of 2024, Gisicki is average 10.6 fantasy points per game with T Higgins out compared to 6.8 PPR fantasy points per game with Higgins.
93:16I just had that stat ready to go. So since you mentioned him, I thought I'd read, uh, the, the numbers since 2024 without Higgins.
93:25Yeah. Yeah. So it's, he's had nice splits there.
93:28Um, he, he's at 10.4 expected fantasy points per game this year, despite just a 54% route share.
93:34So if we do learn that Higgins is out and maybe the Bengals go with a lot more 12 personnel, that's not real.
93:41It wasn't fully what we saw. Like Gisicki's route share didn't come up a ton, uh, after chase went out last week,
93:49but with a full week to game plan and everything that can easily change.
93:53So I, I like that. Like him if, yeah, if we're missing, uh, T Higgins for sure.
93:59Uh, I think I mentioned Tucker craft briefly. He has a good schematic matchup.
94:04Uh, his, the only target he didn't catch last week was a drop in the end zone.
94:09So he could have had, he could have scored over 20 DK if he had just held onto that one.
94:16Uh, the, yeah, he's been much better against single high, which the bears play a lot of.
94:21There's just so many good tight ends this week, man.
94:25Like I feel like I'm going to have a lot of tight end in the flex this week.
94:31And I, I I'm someone that don't like consciously try it.
94:34Cause that that's to me, that's like the easiest fancy play syndrome to get into is like, Oh, I'm going to do a tight end in the flex.
94:44They'll never see this coming. Uh, but I think it's just what you should do this week.
94:49Uh, like Sam Laporta for us, he projects, he's, he's our third best tight end by points per dollar.
94:56He's better than all, but six wide receivers on the slate by fantasy points per dollar.
95:01Uh, just the, yeah, the, the tight end values are so good.
95:05Uh, the, especially the top four that we mentioned, uh, McBride, Laporta, Bowers, Kittle, all of those do have slate wrecking upside just by themselves.
95:13Uh, even like outside of, are they good values?
95:16So I, yeah, I do think like play multiple tight ends this week.
95:20If you're trying to make lineups work, I think it's one of the best weeks we've had to do it in a while.
95:28Yeah. And we're about to make a couple of lineups.
95:31Maybe we'll, we'll show how that might look. Um, we also, I don't know if we mentioned Colston Loveland to me, he's
95:39like certainly interesting if you're, if you're playing the, uh, the Bajan stack or Caleb, if it ends up being Caleb.
95:46Um, so I think Colston Loveland worth, worth mentioning.
95:49Um, just cause I, I think he's going to have his week still.
95:53We really haven't seen much from Loveland, but I think those like 20 fantasy point games are coming at some point this year.
96:01And this is a good enough, you know, pretty strong matchup with green Bay.
96:05So I wanted to throw that. Uh, do you, do you think, um, do you have any, or do you agree with
96:12me on Colston Loveland being a named throughout there?
96:15Um, so my concern with Loveland and I'm confirming this as I'm talking, but his route participation has come down.
96:22Uh, so in week one, it was at 84%.
96:25And that was what, of course he did nothing in week one, but I was like, man, I feel good about the
96:32Colston Loveland thesis because coming into the year, I, I was in on him because it was okay.
96:38The bears just played a ton of two tight end sets.
96:42Loveland was clearly leading in production and routes on all of those plays.
96:46Why would they not just do that? Uh, in, in 2026, they left DJ Morgo.
96:51It clearly seemed to be how they were building their team.
96:55But yeah, with the emergence of Kalief Raymond, Loveland's been at 62%, 65%, 66% route shares the last three weeks.
97:02That's really tough to be a difference making fantasy tight end when you're below like a 70 to 75% route share.
97:09So much of the appeal of Sam Laporta this year is he, the guy leads all tight ends and routes Loveland clearly tracking way behind that.
97:17Um, and yeah, the, the team is just built in a completely different way in terms of how, yeah, how they're deploying
97:24their pass catchers and their personnel packages than I would have expected coming into the year.
97:30And that reduces a lot of my enthusiasm for Loveland on an offense that would love to be run heavy anytime it can.
97:37Uh, but yeah, I mean, if you're playing Beijing, then sure.
97:41It's sorry for the very long tangent that wasn't relevant to this slate of DFS, but yeah, if you're playing Beijing, then sure.
97:49Um, but pro yeah, I probably like Roma duns.
97:52I would say Luther burden would, would be the two I would go with in that case of I'm playing a Beijing double.
97:59Yeah. I was trying to like narrative it out.
98:02Like, well, last game they were just running a lot.
98:06Like Mononga was, you know, scoring every touchdown. So maybe they just weren't running that many routes, but yeah, the Eagles game,
98:13they were, uh, I guess they were playing from ahead against the Eagles also.
98:17So maybe, maybe there was some, some narrative stuff going on here.
98:21Then the Vikings in the, you know, bad weather in week two.
98:25So I don't know, maybe I think the routes come back at some point.
98:30Um, I'm, I'm mostly thinking of this just cause I'm looking at all of the bears route chairs and it's like, pretty
98:37like he's, he matched Luther burden last week at 67% route share to leave Raymond down at 47% last week.
98:44Um, I guess combat actually has come up also.
98:47So I don't know. I'm, I'm trying to, trying to justify it to myself, but, uh, yeah, I think you're, you're probably right.
98:55Mostly just in game sex. Should we make some lineups?
98:58Let's do it, Neil. All right, let's move over and make some lineups on draft Kings.
99:03Um, are we, are we just doing the stacks?
99:06What, what do we, what do we want to do?
99:09Do you want to do the, uh, Arizona stack Detroit stack or something completely different?
99:14Um, I think we should make one lineup that.
99:17Yeah. Stacks that game and attacks it and we can, yeah, we, we can do it however we want.
99:24We can do a, a Kendrick born. We can onslaught.
99:27Um, I actually, yeah. Why don't you pick the approach we take to it?
99:32Since I said that we'll, we'll do a game stack.
99:35All right. I am going to do golf Aminra Laporta where we're going to start with, with this golf Aminra Laporta Kendrick born.
99:43I'm tempted to act to throw McBride in here too, but we'll start with that group of four.
99:49No, I think I want to overstack it. I think I want to overstack this game.
99:54Um, but I guess I haven't decided if I would run, well, I want to do Michael Wilson or Trey McBride.
100:01So we can, we can hold off on which one to add, but I think I would like to add one more Detroit pass catcher.
100:09Um, or, or if you want to go Jameer Gibbs instead, I'll let you make the next pick.
100:15Um, let's do, let's do McBride. McBride. Love it.
100:18McBride and the flex. Uh, we both really like Deandre Swift.
100:22So let's go there. Yep. Let's go. We have 4,700 per player remaining.
100:26Let's do, uh, Braylon Allen. Yeah. Braylon Allen works for this team.
100:30All right. So defense. I mean, we could pay way down for like the Titans as a placeholder against Houston.
100:37I don't hate that. Um, San Francisco, I think is fine.
100:40Sure. San Francisco sounds okay to me. Saints also look okay against Kyler Murray at home, but, uh, we can, we'll do San Francisco for now.
100:49Then we have 6,500 left over. Um, Watson's there.
100:52Malik neighbors there. Michael, Michael, Michael, listen, we could throw in.
100:56I guess at that point we'd have maybe too much of Arizona three, three Arizona with golf would be a little bit weird.
101:03Could work, but. I feel like neighbors fits into this well and we can, I don't know if that lets us get
101:10up, up, up, hired on defense or, but yeah, we can leave it that way or whatever.
101:16We could get to the saints if you want to do that.
101:20Um, I don't know if you have a preference between the saints.
101:24I, I don't know. I watched that defense play against Michael panics and I don't, and not that.
101:30Yeah. We didn't discuss Kyler. Um, yeah, I'd rather play shock, but he he's also, yeah, I'm not going to argue against
101:37playing anybody against the saints, but yeah, 49ers work here.
101:41Uh, do we want to change either of the running backs?
101:44I don't really think we do. No, I think we're good here.
101:48Just leaving 200 on the table. Is it, yeah.
101:51Is, is it contrarian enough to I Kendrick Bourne and Malik neighbors, probably the two most contrarian pieces here.
101:58Is that, is that enough for you for a.
102:01It is three. It's contrary. And it's also contrarian.
102:03I think that we are stacking it this much.
102:06Maybe I'm wrong about that, but having the double stack with the double big bring back.
102:12I think is like close to over stacking enough.
102:15Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. Um, I think it's fine for a millimaker.
102:19I think we have enough contrarian pieces. Awesome. Let's roll it.
102:23Damn. Are you going to check your location? There we go.
102:27A while. Yeah. All right. So for the second one, we're going to do something different.
102:32Where do you want to go? Uh, I mean, I, I sort of picked the last one, so you can pick this one if you'd like.
102:41I mean, I think we agreed that we should do that.
102:44Uh, let's, I mean, we, we talked about the, the Jane Daniel stack.
102:49Want to try doing that one? Let's do it.
102:52Yeah. Daniels, Antonio Williams. Yep. Definitely Williams. I think you, we also, we, we don't have super updated injury news on Terry McLaurin right now.
103:00If he plays that he's viable in this, obviously we can, we can build it with or without him.
103:06However you feel, but I, you also don't need to double Jane and Daniels because you're so interested in the rushing, but right.
103:14Yeah. Let's, let's leave it at a single for now.
103:17Uh, and Malik neighbors ring back. I think so.
103:20Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now, now we have a lot more salary to play with.
103:25Um, probably doing double tight end again, but I guess let's, let's go back to running back.
103:30Start there. Uh, do we just want to go back to Deandre Swift?
103:35Yeah. Can we fit Gibbs plus swift on this team?
103:38If we do double tight end, we can try.
103:41Um, if we go, depends on which double tight end we go.
103:45If we, if we go. Trey McBride and Sam Laporta, it's going to have to be a really cheap receiver, but I
103:52think we could maybe make it work. Okay. How do you, so we're playing the, I guess this is, um, this is a DFS game theory question.
104:01When you're building on this slate, if we have Gibbs, do you want to play McBride and Laporta when we don't, when
104:08obviously we're not playing the quarterbacks from that game?
104:11Like what is there a certain number of players from that game that you would max out at in a lineup if you're not playing the quarterbacks?
104:20Um, yeah, like, I don't think that I don't have like an exact answer to that, but I think like playing three
104:28from that game as like a mini stack with other quarterbacks is totally fine.
104:32Cause Jane Daniels, like especially cause it is full PPR site and you get bonuses at the hundred receiving yard.
104:39So like, it's pretty easy for Gibbs and McBride and Laporta to all go off because they each go over a hundred
104:46yards and they rack up eight receptions, whatever. Like there there's ways for the skill position players to score a ton of points without bringing along the quarterback.
104:56And especially in a lineup with Jaden Daniels, like you get one 50 yard touchdown on the ground from Jane Daniels and a couple of passing touchdowns.
105:04Like he can easily outscore both of the quarterbacks in that game and he's just 6,000.
105:10So he's more expensive than Jacoby reset, but certainly can, can outscore both those quarterbacks even as their pass catchers go off.
105:17So yeah, no, no real concern about it at this point.
105:21Maybe there gets to a point where you have, you know, five skill position players and it's like, all right, at this
105:28point, like the quarterbacks probably getting there if all these players are getting there.
105:33But yeah, I would not say we're at that point where I'm worried about it yet.
105:38But we, I mean, we're also not doing that full game stack.
105:42So we, we don't have to do the, the Laporta thing or the McBride thing.
105:47If you'd rather go a different direction with the, with the tight end and flex.
105:52You can put it in and we can see where it leaves us.
105:56We could also do, yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's put, let's put the port in there for now.
106:02All right. So that'll leave us with. 3150 per player.
106:05I mean, you can, we can pick our punt wide receiver.
106:09We just have to do a sec. Yeah. A second wide receiver punt.
106:13Yep. So obviously we could do. Born. We could go to bell.
106:17We could go to. What are the other options here?
106:21Oh, Roman Wilson, Jeremy Bernard. Yeah. Let's let's do Roman Wilson.
106:24And that leaves us enough for, again, the, the saints are there.
106:28The four, we could just go back to the 49ers.
106:32A lot of overlap. If we do 49ers, um, what else?
106:35Or like the Titans and we could, we could move up off of, uh, laporta.
106:40Um, what are, what are the other options in this, in this range?
106:45If we don't go to, I mean, I guess it sounds like you, you are pretty interested in laporta.
106:51I'm, I like laporta also just trying to think if there's a different way we could play this.
106:57Like if we, we could do, um, we could do this, the Emmanuel Wilson Seahawks mini.
107:02Does that fit or not many RB DST stack?
107:05Does that fit? Let's see Wilson. No. Oh no, they're 28.
107:09Okay. Cardinal Tate a little bit too expensive to do.
107:12I guess that's not a great correlation. Anyway, Cardinal Tate with the Titans defense.
107:17Um, yeah, there's no like much better plays than, than sound.
107:20Laporta paying up. I don't think like we could play Braylon Allen or something and pay, play the Titans defense, but, uh,
107:28maybe it just makes sense to go back to Laporta.
107:31Yeah. He's just such a, yeah. Pound for pound point for dollar.
107:35He's just so strong. Like we were saying earlier.
107:38Yeah. And then do you prefer 49ers over the saints or I guess we're not doing the giants obviously because we have Daniels, um, could do Colts.
107:47I Raiders is, I know they're, uh, yeah, I know they're away.
107:51And not favored, but like Drake, Drake may has thrown multiple interceptions in every game except for last week.
107:57Um, I don't do that. Yeah, let's do that.
108:00Perfect. Leaves a hundred on the table. We've got Jayden Daniels with Antonio Williams.
108:05Malik neighbors bring back, uh, both the under Swift and Jameer Gibbs.
108:09Uh, we have Roman Wilson as a one-off and then Trey McBride, Sam Laporta as a mini with Jameer Gibbs Raiders as a one-off defense.
108:17Boom. Two lineups built. All right, Ryan, we're going to get out of here before we get out of here.
108:24Anything you want to, uh, to shout out? Yeah.
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