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NFL Week 4 BEST Kept Secrets For Winning at DFS | Outside The Box

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1 hr 54 min
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Oct 3, 2026
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Sat, October 3, 2026
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Josh AllenNico CollinsChristian McCaffreyDak PrescottDrake MayeGeorge PickensJeremiyah LoveJoe BurrowKalif RaymondLuther BurdenAaron JonesBraelon AllenBreece HallC.J. Stroud
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Aaron Jones

NegativeProjection27:30

Ryan Heath expresses significant concern about Aaron Jones at 23% ownership despite strong role metrics. Jones was at 91% backfield expected fantasy points share last week with seventh-most total expected fantasy points among all running backs. However, Heath worries about Jones' injury history (gets banged up every game), and with Jordan Mason on IR, there's risk that if the Vikings lead by multiple scores against the Dolphins, Jones could be pulled from the game. Additionally, Kevin O'Connell and the offensive coordinator have been talking about getting Damon Claiborne more involved, which could happen in a blowout scenario.

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Braelon Allen

PositiveProjection45:00

Ryan Heath is interested in Braelon Allen at $5,200 with 10% ownership as a contrarian running back play. Allen is expecting at least a 70% opportunity share and has played a good bit at the goal line, getting every single backfield touch that hasn't gone to Breece Hall this year. The matchup against the Bears defense is not imposing. The current coaching staff really likes Allen, especially in high-value situations, and he's been playing on third downs. Isaiah Davis is the RB2 and there was one game in 2023 when Breece was out where Allen and Davis split 50-50, but that was under different coaching staff.

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Breece Hall

NegativeRole45:00

Ryan Heath notes that Breece Hall is the primary beneficiary if Braelon Allen were not vulturing goal-line carries. Allen has gotten every single backfield touch that hasn't gone to Hall this year, making Hall's red zone role less secure than it might otherwise appear.

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C.J. Stroud

NegativeProjection11:48

Over the last two seasons, Stroud has exceeded 25 DraftKings points just twice: once against the Ravens when they were down nine of 11 defensive starters, and once against the 49ers when they were similarly decimated by injuries with second and third stringers at every level. The Cowboys secondary has been somewhat beat up, but Ryan Heath concludes this doesn't reach the level of defensive injury needed for Stroud to put up a ceiling game. He is not playing Stroud in this matchup.

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Case Keenum

PositiveValue14:12

Case Keenum just put up 24.5 DraftKings points in his last outing. Ryan Heath identifies him as one of his two clear favorites in the sub-$5,300 quarterback range for Week 4, noting that either Keenum or Tyson Bagent would be amazing value in this spot.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveMatchup9:09

CeeDee Lamb benefits from the Dak Prescott-Lamb stack against the Texans, who have been a top-five or top-ten pass funnel by P.Row allowed and have played single-high looks on 50%+ of dropbacks in eight of their last ten games; this schematic matchup is positive for the Cowboys' passing game.

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Chase Brown

NegativeProjection26:00

Chase Brown at $6,100 with 24% ownership is described as fine by Ryan Heath. The key concern is the Bengals' unusual offensive pattern: they rank top-10 in EPA per play and have scored on 50% of drives (tied for second), but all scoring has come from long touchdowns outside the 10-yard line or field goals, with very few drives reaching the red zone. This is where Brown's fantasy value typically comes from, and Heath expects this to regress. Brown is averaging 15 fantasy points per game, which Heath finds surprisingly high-owned.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeProjection24:01

At $7,700 with 31% projected ownership, Christian McCaffrey is described as mega chalk and a strong point-per-dollar play, though slightly underpriced. However, Ryan Heath notes concern about McCaffrey's expected fantasy point percentage of his team dropping significantly this year (from 33.9% last year to 23.3% this year, up to 26.3% last week), which is a reason to potentially get away from him despite elite usage and route share.

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NegativeRole24:48

Despite ownership concerns, McCaffrey maintains elite usage with 82% snap share and 80% of backfield opportunities last week. His route share is described as awesome and elite usage. However, game script risk exists if the 49ers blow out the Broncos, as McCaffrey may sit in the fourth quarter. The 49ers-Broncos game is projected as fairly close (3-3.5 point spread), which mitigates this concern.

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Christian Watson

PositiveMatchup73:51

Ryan Heath prefers Christian Watson at 6,700 over Matthew Golden despite Golden's better point-per-dollar value. Watson is a more explosive downfield receiver and has a superior schematic matchup against the Buccaneers. Watson leads the Packers in targets per route run over the last two years against Tampa Bay's cover-three shell (Golden sees a 33% target per route run reduction against cover-three). Against the blitz, Watson and Golden's target shares flip from 19% to 25% depending on blitz presence; Watson benefits from the Buccaneers' blitz-heavy approach. Heath also notes the Packers' passing game is underrated this week due to their inability to run the ball with Jalen Daniels out, forcing dropbacks on dropbacks against a major pass funnel.

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D.J. Moore

PositiveUsage70:46

Ryan Heath plays DJ Moore at 5,700 as a Josh Allen stacking partner. Moore has a 31% target per route run rate in his two full games this season (unexpected for Heath). He's being used heavily downfield and ranks top-three in air yards when including penalty-negated plays and DPI yards, indicating one of the best downfield roles in the NFL right now.

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Dak Prescott

PositiveValue9:09

Dak Prescott projects for only 4% ownership in DFS, making the Dak-CD Pickens double significantly less owned than the Burrow-Higgins double; Ryan Heath calls this 'a no brainer' from an ownership perspective and notes Prescott averages 26.6 DraftKings points per game in single-high heavy matchups over the past couple of seasons, which aligns with the Texans' recent defensive scheme of 50%+ single-high looks in eight of their last ten games.

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PositiveMatchup10:42

Ryan Heath identifies this as the most interested he's been in Dak doubles so far this year. Dak is contrarian in a game with a relatively high total; the Cowboys defense is not great, making game stacks with Dak and bringbacks attractive. The Texans defense hasn't clicked this year, creating an amazing spot for Dak doubles.

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Derrick Henry

PositiveProjection36:00

Ryan Heath is extremely bullish on Derrick Henry at $8,400 with only 10% projected ownership, calling him a total smash and the best play on the slate. This is Henry's first game back playing against his former team (Titans), who are 13.5-point favorites. Henry averages over 25 DraftKings fantasy points per game in games the Ravens have won by multiple scores since joining in 2024. Heath believes the 10% ownership projection is unrealistic and that Henry will be heavily steamed up, but even at 20-25% ownership he remains an awesome play with really strong ceiling. Heath notes Henry interviewed about not being re-signed by Tennessee and emphasizes unlimited value on DFS sites makes him easy to fit into lineups.

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Drake Maye

NegativeInjury4:39

Drake May is dealing with a shoulder injury heading into Week 4; the extent to which this injury affects his performance is uncertain, but it is a concern for Patriots' offensive production and could impact Josh Allen's ceiling in DFS if the Patriots cannot keep up with the Bills.

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PositiveProjection22:42

Ryan Heath expresses minimal interest in Drake Maye as a DFS target despite potential contrarian appeal; concerns include shoulder injury, declining performance this season, and unfavorable matchup against Bills defense. Heath notes Maye could be considered in MMB sets if nobody plays him due to injury concerns, but frames it as a difficult stack rather than a genuine target.

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Emanuel Wilson

NegativeRole47:30

With Jadarian Price out, Wilson steps into a bigger role at $4,700 as a starting running back; he showed a 76% snap share and 12 of the team's 16 running back carries in Week 2 when Price didn't play the entire fourth quarter in a positive game script, though the Seahawks have shown a pattern of subbing their main back out at the goal line (George Helani got two-to-one red zone carries over Wilson in that same game); Wilson is decent value in a Seahawks-DST stack in positive game script, though not a smash given the goal-line concerns.

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Garrett Wilson

PositiveMatchup59:54

Wilson broke the slate last week and is a strong play again this week; the Bears are the third-biggest deep funnel in the NFL dating back to the start of last season, allowing the third-most receiving yards per game on throws of 20-plus yards downfield while being bottom-seven on underneath throws, which encourages downfield passing; Wilson had two deep targets last week and with AD Mitchell out again this week, Kenyon Sadiq tied him for the team high in deep targets, making a double-stack with Geno Smith and Sadiq very affordable and reasonable.

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George Pickens

PositiveMatchup9:09

George Pickens benefits the most from the Texans' single-high heavy defensive scheme; he can be played in the Dak Prescott-Pickens double stack against a Texans defense that has been a top-five or top-ten pass funnel by P.Row allowed.

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PositiveMatchup62:18

Pickens is the favorite play among the Bengals receivers as a one-off; the Texans are very single-high heavy over the past 10 weeks, which is massive for Pickens—his target share goes up to 28% versus single-high coverage, his yards per hour run against single-high ranks third-best at the position behind only Puka Nakua and Jackson Smith-Njigba, and his target per hour run nearly doubles compared to against two-high; Pickens has the same number of targets and red zone targets as CD Lamb this year but is separated by 16 points per game in production, suggesting regression is coming; at $6,300 he's a great play in this matchup.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveValue74:15

Ryan Heath prefers Isaiah Likely over Malik Neighbors as the primary Jameis Winston stack target. Likely's role has been more consistent, he's cheaper, and he's healthier than Neighbors. Heath notes Likely as the primary stack option with Neighbors as a deeper GPP consideration.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeValue62:18

Chase ranks fourth among the Bengals receivers as a one-off play behind Pickens, Higgins, and CD Lamb; while he's amazing in the red zone and downfield, he's much more of a volume/PPR hog than Higgins, making him less attractive in high-total shootout games where touchdowns are more valuable; at 16% ownership he's chalky but still a viable play.

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Jalen Hurts

PositiveProjection67:24

Hurts is averaging over 38 DraftKings points per game this week and has an awesome covered shell matchup; the Chargers play a bunch of cover-four, which is a favorable shell for his passing game.

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James Cook

PositiveProjection38:00

Ryan Heath identifies James Cook at $7,400 with 10% projected ownership as a mini Derrick Henry and a pretty good contrarian play if Henry gets steamed up. Cook averages 24.7 DraftKings points per game when the Bills have won by at least a touchdown dating back to last year. He's third-best among all running backs in fantasy points per snap (behind only Jameer Gibbs and Derrick Henry). The Bills are 6.5-point favorites against the Patriots. Cook's passing game role did get worse as Ty Johnson came back last week, but in a positive game script he remains efficient and has upside from goal-line carries.

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Jauan Jennings

PositiveValue75:28

Ryan Heath dismisses Jawan Jennings as a DFS play despite his potential role as the Vikings' WR2 with Justin Jefferson out. Heath notes that Kyle Shanahan-created wide receivers don't perform well outside of Shanahan's system. Using the Data Suite 2.0 player comparison tool, Heath found that Coley Framon's late-career breakout (10th season, part-time to productive) is more comparable to Jennings' trajectory than any other receiver, suggesting Shanahan's scheme-dependent nature. Heath would prefer Coley Framon over Jennings and notes Jennings has been "absolutely nothing so far this season," making it hard to get excited despite the cheap price and favorable Miami matchup.

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Jaylen Waddle

PositiveValue73:20

Ryan Heath plans to use Jalen Waddle at 6K as a bring-back for any Brock Purdy stacks. He references Jake Tribby's case for Waddle on Catching Points and notes a "really fun, like schematic angle for Waddle." Heath also suggests Waddle can be mini-stacked with George Kittle.

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Jeremiyah Love

PositiveBreakout30:00

Ryan Heath is very enthusiastic about Jeremiah Love as a smash play. Love was the number three overall pick and Heath had him as one of the best running back prospects since 2018, ahead of Jameer Gibbs and behind only Ashton Jenty, Saquon Barkley, and maybe one other top-10 running back. Last week Love got basically everything except the two-minute drill and obvious passing downs (third and long), showing a three-down skill set. He's already being used in the passing game at a strong amount and is top-five in targets per outing alongside Christian McCaffrey and Jameer Gibbs.

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PositiveProjection32:00

Ryan Heath projects Jeremiah Love as having the highest ceiling among comparable running backs (Chase Brown, Aaron Jones, Cam Scadaboo) at similar price tags. Love is more talented than all of them in a raw sense and is positioned to score multiple touchdowns and massively outperform expected fantasy points. Backfields playing against Jamis Winston over the last three seasons average 27 fantasy points per game on DraftKings (top-10 by expected fantasy points per game). Love is game-script proof with strong passing game usage.

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Joe Burrow

NegativeMatchup7:00

Burrow faces Jacksonville's defense in Week 4; the Jaguars' defense was expected to be a pass funnel but has not played that way so far this year, which impacts the level of interest in Burrow as a DFS play and raises questions about whether he will be played.

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PositiveProjection7:10

Burrow averages 24.6 DraftKings fantasy points per game in games with a total above 50 over the past four seasons, giving him the ceiling needed for DFS success; however, his wide receivers Chase and T Higgins both project for top-five ownership at their positions, making it challenging to differentiate in lineups.

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Josh Allen

NegativeValue2:45

Allen is one of the top two quarterbacks by projection this week, but Ryan Heath notes potential pushback: there are so many amazing pay-up options at running back and wide receiver that it may be hard to fit Allen into lineups despite his strong matchup against the Patriots.

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PositiveProjection3:30

Allen is averaging 3.7 more fantasy points per game on QB sneaks than any other quarterback in fantasy points data era history; the Bills have gone for a QB sneak on 80% of their design carries from the one-yard line this year, which ranks ahead of every other team including the Eagles' tush push plays. This gives Allen ceiling upside and the ability to blow up a slate at any time.

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NegativeValue3:30

At 5900 salary, there are concerns about jamming Allen into DFS lineups given the abundance of amazing pay-up options at running back and wide receiver on the slate; however, his ceiling tier and stackability make him still worth considering despite the price tag and competition from other quarterbacks.

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PositiveRole6:00

The Bills' pass rate over expectation has been way up this year relative to previous seasons under Sean McDermott; with Joe Brady as head coach, the offense is not run-heavy like it was before. This eliminates the previous consideration that Allen needed the opposing offense to be good to elevate his performance, making him a more reliable ceiling play in DFS.

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Kalif Raymond

PositiveValue69:52

Ryan Heath identifies Raymond as a strong DFS value at sub-4K pricing. Raymond has 27% of Bears targets within 10 yards this season (fifth-highest among all WRs); he's also fifth in yards per route run for Ben Johnson receivers at 2.2 on more routes than Luther Burden. Previously efficient in a part-time role with the Lions, Raymond is now in a full-time role with route volume approaching Colston Loveland's. Heath calls him "definitely my favorite sub 4K wide receiver punt" and more efficient than Sam Laporta, Jameson Williams, and Roma Dunze under Ben Johnson.

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PositiveValue72:21

Raymond is a really strong play and the cheapest option in a Bears-Jets stack; the Jets have been an underneath funnel allowing mostly throws within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, and Raymond has 27% of the Bears' targets within 10 yards this season, which is fifth-highest among all wide receivers; he's dominated the short-area work for the Bears and is a great punt at his price point.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveProjection35:00

Ryan Heath describes Kenneth Walker as what would happen if one of the most explosive players in the NFL was given a top-three workload at running back. The Chiefs have run this experiment every single week this year and it has produced amazing fantasy results. Walker is preferred over Cam Scadaboo and Aaron Jones among higher-owned running backs, though he is the most expensive option.

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Kyler Murray

PositiveValue13:13

Kyler Murray is identified as one of the best point-per-dollar options at quarterback in the sub-$5,300 range for Week 4. Ryan Heath groups him with Jacoby Brissett, Jalen Daniels, and the Bears quarterback as viable cheap quarterback options, with Murray looking particularly great to him.

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Kyren Williams

NegativeProjection40:00

Ryan Heath expresses conditional interest in Kyron Williams in the Rams-Eagles game. The Rams rushing game has been really strong this year, with Kyron and Blake Quorum as the top two running backs in percent of carries going five or more yards in the NFL. Kyron suddenly has amazing advanced rushing stats (rush yards over expectation) despite historically poor advanced metrics. However, Heath is more interested in playing the Rams through the passing game if the Eagles get ahead, as the Rams have been the fourth-fastest offense in the NFL while trailing (26 seconds per play). Heath does not rank Kyron near the top of his list for this slate.

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Luther Burden

PositiveValue69:52

Ryan Heath identifies Burden as a strong DFS play alongside Raymond. Burden has 24% of Bears targets within 10 yards this season and ranks second among Ben Johnson receivers in yards per route run at 2.36. The Jets funnel throws underneath (within 10 yards), creating a favorable matchup. Heath suggests Burden plus Raymond as "a fun double" and notes Burden's efficiency metrics support his DFS appeal.

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PositiveValue72:21

Burden is really strong and pairs well with Kalief Raymond in a Bears-Jets stack; he's right behind Raymond at 24% of the Bears' targets within 10 yards this season, making him another strong option in the short-area game against the Jets' underneath funnel; the Burden-plus-Raymond double is a fun pairing.

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Malik Washington

NegativeValue72:09

Ryan Heath identifies Malik Washington at 4,400 as a contrarian DFS punt with schematic appeal against the Vikings' 70% blitz rate. With Devon Achain out and Caleb Douglas out, Washington has been getting targets out of the backfield (two targets in final three quarters of Week 3). His targets per route run and yards per route run improve significantly against the blitz and two-high looks, making him a potential PPR cheat code as the low route-depth option. However, Heath acknowledges the Dolphins' offensive struggles limit ceiling; he'd prefer Washington in Kyler Murray stacks as a bring-back option rather than standalone.

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Matthew Golden

NegativeValue73:51

Ryan Heath notes Matthew Golden projects as a better point-per-dollar value than Christian Watson at 6,700. However, Heath prefers Watson due to superior schematic matchup. Golden sees a 33% target per route run reduction against cover-three and is on the wrong side of the blitz dynamic (target share drops from 25% to 19% when facing blitz), making him less appealing than Watson against the Buccaneers despite better value.

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Michael Wilson

PositiveValue67:08

Wilson easily leads the Cardinals in first-free target share at 35%, which is seventh-highest among all players; by expected fantasy points per dollar, Wilson would be a top-12 value on the slate; he's averaging 19.9 DraftKings fantasy points per game over his last 11 games at only $5,500; he opened the year against two tough matchups (Chargers and Seahawks) but popped off last week against the 49ers; he gets the Giants defense this week which is top-four in points per game allowed to outside wide receivers, making him a total smash worth getting way above his 14% ownership.

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Mike Gesicki

PositiveValue8:01

Mike Gesicki at $3,300 salary offers a way to differentiate in Burrow stacks; he's been running half the routes for the Bengals so far this year and has exceeded 11 expected fantasy points in two of three games, providing salary relief while maintaining upside in a game where the Bengals lack ancillary wide receivers and will play more 12 personnel.

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Nico Collins

PositiveMatchup10:47

Collins is playing in the first game over a 45-point over/under that he's appeared in since 2024; Vegas is adjusting upward for Texans games, which is rare. In games over 45-point over/unders dating back to 2024, Collins averages about 18 DraftKings points per game, which is solid value for his salary. Ryan Heath views him as a decent bringback in Dak stacks, though not required given other slate value.

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PositiveMatchup10:50

Nico Collins is playing in his first game over a 45-point over-under since 2024, indicating Vegas is adjusting upward for this Texans game, which suggests increased offensive opportunity.

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NegativeRole65:44

Collins is back this week after injury and should be healthy enough to play in DFS; he's only getting played in game stacks given the abundance of amazing pay-up options at wide receiver, but there's no real health concern—the Texans have to put him back out there in a full-time route share because the offense is completely non-viable without him and they're 0-3; he was limited Wednesday and Thursday with an ankle but had a full practice Friday, suggesting he should be full go.

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Parker Washington

PositiveRole57:22

Washington is an amazing play and the primary leverage off Trevor Lawrence; he can be played in lineups with over 20% ownership without doing a full game stack; the Bengals' DJ Turner (ankle) popped up with a limited practice Friday and was initially projected to shadow Jacoby Myers, but Washington gets moved around the formation making him harder to shadow, so even if Turner is out, Washington remains an excellent play; everything about the matchup and his role supports continued strong production.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeProjection23:25

Ryan Heath expresses mild interest in Patrick Mahomes as a DFS quarterback option, noting Travis Kelce as a strong stacking partner and Rashee Rice as potentially ascending. However, Heath does not express strong enthusiasm and indicates Mahomes will make his player pool but without particular conviction.

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Rashee Rice

PositiveBreakout23:25

Ryan Heath notes Rashee Rice as maybe ascending a little bit in the context of Chiefs stacking options, suggesting potential upside in Rice's role or production trajectory.

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Saquon Barkley

PositiveProjection40:50

Ryan Heath mentions Saquon Barkley as a potential contrarian play if the Eagles get ahead in the Rams-Eagles game. The Rams have been the fourth-fastest offense in the NFL while trailing (26 seconds per play), suggesting if the Eagles build a lead, the Rams will be forced to pass. This creates a scenario where Barkley could have success against the Rams defense, which is missing Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett (playing a bunch of backups). Heath frames this as fun contrarian galbrains stuff but is uncertain about acting on it.

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T.J. Hockenson

NegativeValue77:45

Neil advocates for TJ Hockenson at 3,300 against the Dolphins as a punt tight end option with Justin Jefferson out. In 2023, Hockenson averaged 9.9 targets per game and 17.31 fantasy points per game in games without Jefferson. While Hockenson is three years older, Neil notes he's not elderly and the role could absolutely be there this week. Ryan Heath acknowledges the play isn't terrible at 3,300 as a tight end punt, though he notes some concern about Hockenson's ownership.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeValue7:24

Tee Higgins projects for top-five ownership at wide receiver in DFS, making her part of the highly-owned Burrow stack; Ryan Heath identifies this as a constraint on differentiation.

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Travis Kelce

PositiveRole23:25

Ryan Heath identifies Travis Kelce as a strong stacking partner with Patrick Mahomes in DFS, indicating confidence in Kelce's role and production potential as a primary target in the Chiefs offense.

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Trevor Lawrence

PositiveProjection2:39

Lawrence is QB1 by expected and actual fantasy points per game over his last 10 games; faces an amazing shootout matchup against the Bengals; Jaguars' play volume has been down due to blowout wins, but this could finally be a full-game shootout where Jacksonville has to try in the second half; priced at only $5,900.

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Tyson Bagent

PositiveValue13:33

Tyson Bagent is expected to start for the Bears at quarterback (though Ben Johnson said the team will confirm on Sunday). Ryan Heath identifies him as one of his two clear favorites in the sub-$5,300 quarterback range. Bagent impressed in the preseason—Ben Johnson noted he was the team's QB2 entering the year and played amazingly in preseason. Either Bagent or Case Keenum would be amazing value in this spot.

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Zay Flowers

NegativeValue68:28

Flowers is an interesting pivot if Derek Henry gets steamed; he's been 34% more efficient by fantasy points per hour run than Jalen Hurts has this year despite running only 25 routes; the obvious concern is game script against the Titans, but Flowers hasn't run more than 14 routes in any game this year and put up over 25 DK on just 11 routes in Week 1, showing JSN-esque usage at a much cheaper price point.

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0:20This is Outside The Box for Week 4. I'm your host, Neil Orfield, and I'm here once again with Ryan Heath to
0:27be breaking down the DraftKings main slate. We're going to be looking at some of the chalk, but primarily just finding the
0:34best low own plays at each position. We're going to start at quarterback, then go to running back, receiver, tight end.
0:42At the end, we'll make some lineups here as well on DraftKings.
0:46Ryan, how are you doing today? Ryan, how are you doing today?
0:50I'm doing great, Neil. It's a really exciting slate here.
0:53I think there are so many good plays. A lot of them chalky.
0:57A lot of them not. I'm excited to talk through all of them.
1:02This is going to be a really, really fun week of NFL football, I think.
1:07Yeah, just 12 games on this one. But there's more plays that I'm really interested on this 12-game slate than there have
1:14been on the larger 13-game slate that we've had up until this point.
1:19Obviously, a lot of injuries impacting things, so then we have a good amount of value.
1:24And what do we do with that value? Does that make you, you know, do you lean into some of the more
1:32expensive stacks or the more expensive running backs? We'll get into all of that.
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2:26Okay, starting with quarterback. Two of them are above 10% projected ownership this week.
2:31Trevor Lawrence against the Bengals, Josh Allen against the Patriots.
2:34We'll start. We'll draw the line there. That's the chalk.
2:38Are you, you know, cutting either of these two from your player pool?
2:42Or are you going to be above the field on either of Trevor Lawrence or Josh Allen?
2:48No, I mean, I think both of these are right.
2:51If I were to pick my top two quarterbacks, ignoring ownership and everything this week, it's kind of hard to argue with
2:59Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen as the chalkiest options. Lawrence is just the QB one by expected and actual fantasy points per game
3:06over his last 10 gets an amazing shootout matchup with the Bengals.
3:10The Jaguars really haven't had to play a full game like their play volume has been way down just because they have like dog walked a few teams.
3:20This could finally be our shootout. The Jaguars actually really having to try in the second half.
3:25So love Lawrence here in this spot. He's still only 5900 feels kind of crazy.
3:30Josh Allen, if I were to have like any pushback on him, it's that there are so many amazing pay up options
3:38on this slate at the running back and the wide receiver position that maybe it's a little hard to jam in Josh Allen.
3:46I think it's probably still worth doing. The craziest stat that I have on the bills this year is they have gone
3:53for a QB sneak on 80% of their design carries from the one yard line so far this year.
3:59That would rank ahead of every other team in fantasy points data history, including like the tush push Eagles the past couple of years.
4:08Allen is averaging 3.7 more points per game just on QB sneaks than any other fantasy points data era quarterback.
4:14It's pretty crazy. He can blow up a slate at any time.
4:18We know who to stack him with now, which is not a luxury that we've had with Josh Allen in years past.
4:26So, yeah, I mean, I think there's I am not going to give you anything that's going to get you off of T law or Allen.
4:35Do you have any reasons to fade either of these guys, Neil?
4:39I mean, I guess the biggest reason to potentially fade the bills would be, you know, you're dealing with a shoulder injury to Drake May.
4:47Can the Patriots keep up with the bills? And in which case, you know, Josh Allen sometimes to go into Superman mode
4:55is as Scott has told me many times, like you really need the team on the other side to be pushing.
5:02So sometimes it's the tougher matchup. So sometimes it's like Josh Allen, even against a better opposing defense.
5:08That's when you really see him elevate when the opposing offense is also good.
5:12So with the Patriots, you know, not having a fully functional, potentially not having a fully functional Drake May, I guess we'll
5:20see how much the shoulder injury actually affects him.
5:23I guess that would be my biggest concern and obviously the price tag.
5:27And I guess just the number of other quarterbacks that I like on the slate.
5:32So I guess those would be the biggest reasons to get away from Josh Allen.
5:37But yeah, it's tough to disagree with you. Like he is just on in a tier by himself as far as the ceiling goes.
5:46And it's awesome that we now know who to stack them with.
5:50So like, I don't hate to play, but I guess those are the cons for me.
5:55Yeah, the only thing I'd push back on there is in terms of it's true that in years past, we've needed the
6:03other team to push for Allen to go Superman mode.
6:06But the Bills pass rate over expectation has been way up this year relative to previous seasons when Sean McDermott was their head coach.
6:14I think he kind of liked having the defense get helped out by being kept off the field, going slower, run heavy.
6:21That's not been the case for the Bills so far this year with Joe Brady, a head coach.
6:28So to me, that consideration has been like eliminated.
6:31So it makes it harder for me to argue against Allen.
6:34Yeah, I think that that is fair. So far this year, it does look a little bit different for Josh Allen and the Bills offense.
6:43So let's start looking at some of the less chalky plays.
6:46So we started with the chalkiest plays on the slate at quarterback, looking at some of the, you know, a little bit lower owned.
6:55And I guess we can start on the other side of that Trevor Lawrence game is Joe Burrow, who I think is also looking at, yes, 80% ownership.
7:04So he is next up, but, you know, a little bit lower ownership on Burrow.
7:09And with Jacksonville, that defense, I guess, I don't know how you are reading that defense at this point, because I think
7:17we were expecting it to be more of a pass funnel.
7:20I think I saw you tweeting out how that hasn't really been the case so far this year.
7:26How does that impact your level of interest in Burrow?
7:30And do you think you'll be playing him? The trickiest thing with Burrow to me is, yeah, while he is going to
7:37be less popular than Trevor Lawrence, according to our projected ownership, that's not really the case for his wide receivers.
7:44Like everybody is going to play specifically the Burrow Chase Higgins double.
7:48It's kind of the only way to play him that feels super comfortable.
7:52Chase and T Higgins, we both have top five ownership projections on at their position.
7:57So that's like maybe one con against it. But hey, it's Joe Burrow.
8:0224.6 DraftKings fantasy points per game in games with a total above 50 over the past four seasons.
8:08He absolutely has the ceiling that we're looking for.
8:11I think with him, it is just how do you get different if you're stacking him?
8:16I think Mike Gesicki at 3300 might be a decent way to do that.
8:21But the Bengals have no ancillary wide receivers. They're going to have to play a lot more 12 personnel.
8:28Andre Yosavosh is out. Another one of their like depth wide receivers is out.
8:32Gesicki's been running like half the routes so far this year.
8:36He's been above 11 expected fantasy points in two of three games.
8:40Only 3300. Like you're going to have to save salary on these Burrow lineups anyway.
8:45I think mixing him in is pretty interesting in a way that makes it's just an angle that makes me like Burrow more.
8:53So yeah, Burrow's good. I'm not. I'm. Yeah, I like Burrow.
8:57Yeah. So I mean, we're playing some of the chalk.
9:00So where are you getting different on this slate of movie?
9:04We kind of like all the quarterbacks at the top.
9:07I don't know if you if you like the remaining quarterbacks on the screen right now or if there are some some
9:15lower own quarterbacks that you're targeting as well. Yeah, there's a lot of good quarterback plays so that I do want to
9:22get different at quarterbacks some this week. I'll throw I'll throw a couple out.
9:27Dak Prescott to me. We're showing 4% projected ownership right now.
9:30This is if you just compare him straight up the Dak CD Pickens double to the Burrow Chase Higgins double, you're going
9:38to get like about half or less of the ownership on that combined is what we're looking at right now.
9:45I think that's a no brainer. Like at ownership, give me the Dak double over the Burrow double.
9:51If we're going to compare it in that sense, it's an amazing spot for Prescott in a few different ways.
9:58So everyone looks at the Houston Texans and say, well, they've had a top three defense the last few years.
10:04Like, is this really a spot we want to play quarterbacks?
10:08I think it is. So far, the Texans have been a top five or a top 10 pass funnel by P.
10:15Row allowed. They've been playing a lot more single high looks lately over their last 10 games on 50% or more of
10:23their dropbacks in eight of their last 10. Dak averages 26.6 DraftKings points per game in his single high heavy matchups over the past couple of seasons.
10:32It's a really positive schematic matchup for him. George Pickens is who benefits the most.
10:37But of course, you can play the Dak CD Pickens double and get in on that.
10:42And yeah, the Texans defense just kind of hasn't clicked so far this year.
10:47I one of the notes I had on Nico Collins was that this is the first game over a 45 point over
10:54under that Collins has played in since 2024. So Vegas is adjusting here, at least in terms of actually giving this a
11:02higher over under for a Texans game, which we have rarely seen.
11:06Right. So I think this is, yeah, as I said, an amazing spot to play Dak doubles.
11:12It's the most interested I've been in Dak doubles so far this year.
11:16Yeah, Dak and the fact that Dak is contrarian in a game with a relatively high total and you love playing, you
11:23know, game stacks with the Cowboys just because, you know, their defense is not great.
11:29So you can obviously play some bringbacks as well.
11:32Do you think you'll play any of the other stack of that game?
11:36Do you go play CJ Stroud as the quarterback in any labs or do you just prefer your Texans as bringbacks?
11:43Yeah, I wanted to get to Stroud like I tried kind of writing him up.
11:48And ultimately, the conclusion I came to is over the last two seasons, he's gone over 25 DraftKings points just twice.
11:55That was against the Ravens in a game when they were down like nine of their 11 starters on defense and another
12:03game against the 49ers where they were similarly just completely decimated by injuries, playing second and third stringers at every level.
12:10The Cowboys have been somewhat beat up as a secondary.
12:13And I'm not saying I'm not necessarily defending the Cowboys defense whatsoever, but I don't know if it quite reaches the level
12:21for CJ Stroud to actually put up a ceiling game.
12:24So, yeah, I don't think I'm playing any Stroud.
12:27You can play Nico Collins as a bringback in Dak stuff.
12:31As I mentioned, it's rare that we've seen Collins in these high total games back in.
12:36If you go back to 2024 and look at him in games over a 45 point over under, he's averaging about 18
12:44DraftKings points per game, which is just fine for what his salary is.
12:48So he's a decent bringback. I don't know that you even have to, though, just because, yeah, there's so much other value on this slate.
12:56You're going to want to save salary in ways on these Dak teams like it's not required to me.
13:03OK, we have a number of pretty good cheap options at quarterback.
13:07I think this week, you know, fifty three hundred and under.
13:11We have point per dollar option. I mean, we have Kyler Murray.
13:15It looks pretty great to me. Jacoby Brissett may be an option.
13:19Jalen Daniels and then Tyson Badgen. We're not sure yet if Badgen is going to be the quarterback.
13:25Ben Johnson said we'll find out on Sunday who's actually starting for the Bears.
13:30But looking at that kind of cohort of the cheap quarterbacks that to me are all pretty viable.
13:36You have a favorite among Kyler Murray, Jacoby Brissett, Jalen Daniels, Bears quarterback or any other quarterbacks in that, you know, fifty
13:43three and hundred under range that you like. There's two that I clearly like more than the other two, and I'll give them both out.
13:52Bears quarterback, as you say, is one of my favorites.
13:55I think it will likely be Tyson Badgen. That's I think Schefter said that he thinks it'll be Badgen.
14:01Everybody around the industry is projecting that it's Badgen.
14:04And at this point, so that's my guess. Ultimately, it doesn't matter.
14:08I think either Badgen or Case Keenum would be an amazing value and an amazing play in this spot.
14:15Keenum just put up twenty four and a half DraftKings points.
14:19Badgen, we were told, played so amazingly in the preseason.
14:22Like that was what Ben Johnson said is there's a reason like he was our QB two entering the year.
14:29They were very impressed with him, it sounds like.
14:32And yeah, I just want a Ben Johnson quarterback in this spot.
14:36The Bears and Jets both ranked top ten in pace so far this year.
14:41The Jets have been a top five pass funnel by pass rate over expectation allowed.
14:46That's despite going up against the Lions and Titans for two of their games, which are teams that obviously can run the
14:53ball or like will lean toward the run on occasion.
14:56Right. But they still wanted to throw on the Jets.
15:00I think the Bears will to here. And even better, the stack has become more clear to me.
15:06Maybe I can save it for the wide receivers, but you can get really cheap and like pretty decent.
15:12Maybe the ownership will come up on the Bears when we have more clarity on who the starting quarterback is like officially.
15:20But yeah, Baygent plus Luther Burden plus Kalief Raymond is extremely cheap.
15:24Not super chalky like that. That's a really fun core to build around and kind of pay up to all of these
15:31other running backs and wide receivers that we want to play.
15:35So I think they're really strong. The other cheap QB you mentioned that I am very into is going to be Jacoby Brissett.
15:43It's a similar ish kind of thesis where we really know what the stack is.
15:48It's very clearly Michael Wilson. I'm so sad as a preseason Marvin Harrison Jr.
15:53Backer slash bag holder swinging a miss on that one because yeah, clear.
15:57We'll talk about Michael Wilson more later too, maybe.
16:00But I think he's an amazing play. This Giants defense has been absolutely awful.
16:05Yeah, they have been a really big pass funnel as well.
16:09Top three and first read target share allowed when Michael Wilson and McBride are combining for close to 75% of the Cardinals
16:16first read targets like it just could be really nice, really condensed there.
16:20And it's another similarly to the Bears like you can just play that Cardinals double and kind of do whatever you want elsewhere.
16:28Okay, and I didn't even mention James Winston. I don't think like James Winston, Gino Smith, like there's other, you know, cheaper
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17:02Jetzt auf Disney+. Kyler, I mean, Kyler 5300. Is your lack of interest in Kyler because of the ownership going there?
17:09Or Justin Jefferson being out? Do you just think the Vikings are going to struggle offensively?
17:14what uh why does uh kyler not rank as well for you as the others it's i don't know i just feel
17:22gross grossed out by kyler which is annoying considering coming into the year i was making like the kyler murray bull case
17:29which is hey we get a mobile quarterback and a kevin o'connell led offense every single veteran qb that o'connell's ever coached
17:37has been a massive value has been able to average 18 to 20 draft kings points per game uh they he will
17:44always go pass heavy in the red zone like i i've made all these arguments and i believe all these arguments i
17:52just don't know like how much that carries through against the dolphins uh i just have concerns i guess in terms of
17:59the how competitive is this game how many plays are there in this game uh i think the vikings will would be
18:07happy to play a bit slower they're they're very beat up obviously justin jefferson out uh jordan mason out it's opened up
18:14like a lot of value for their position players jordan addison tj hawkinson both popping for us uh as point per dollar
18:21values and kyler does too to some extent um but yeah to to me it's just how competitive will this game remain
18:29could we just like not have a real fourth quarter where the vikings are up multiple scores and it's damon clayborne uh
18:36finally getting real action like i don't know i'm just less excited by it than i am by uh brissette or by
18:44baygent uh but it's like i i feel like a dfs standby is like hey all of this guy's pieces project really
18:51well so you should play him too and that applies to kyler i guess yeah that's kind of where i came at
18:59it from with kyler is like i was i'm loving the way tj hawkinson looks and jordan addison looks and then juwan
19:06jennyans to me is even kind of interesting so then i'm like why am i not just playing some kyler here so
19:13i kind of went from not that interested in kyler to after jefferson was ruled out being more and more like kind
19:21of talking myself into it and i think in part because i think a lot of the field is going to be
19:28grossed out by kyler and like and because there are all these other like pretty good value plays on the slate that
19:36kind of cover for him where i just like i don't think he's going to end up getting a ton of ownership
19:43so this feels to me like it could be a cheat code matchup for for kyler and for those stacks uh being
19:51really inexpensive so i think i i like it a little bit better than you do but i also i get it
19:58if you just want to play the better game environments because i don't think this is going to be a great game
20:06environment like arizona new york certainly could be chicago the jets certainly could be as well so um yeah that that does
20:13make some sense to uh to maybe just prefer those other spots any other quarterback uh that you are really interested in
20:20yeah there's a lot of guys i'm considering uh you mentioned jamis winston earlier ultimately i think it's probably just a worse
20:28version of jacoby reset but you could play him from that side of the game with isaiah likely uh but probably the
20:35the guy we haven't talked about yet that i have the most interest in is brock purdy uh i've i felt dumb
20:43for not playing a bunch of purdy last week but he's 6700 which is like too expensive for him to pop as
20:50a value or for him to pop in terms of ownership uh but another guy where multiple pieces on this team project
20:58really well christian mccaffrey probably going to be the most popular running back of the slate uh george kittle at only what
21:05is he 5k 5500 way too cheap for george kittle in a full-time role so brock purdy last week uh had a
21:1345 yard rushing touchdown get called back because of a really dumb holding penalty he would have finished with 27.8 draft kings
21:20points had that not happened even if you throw that out over his last 10 games he's the qb3 by draft kings
21:27fantasy points per game uh he's top two in fantasy points per drop back over that span uh he always leads all
21:35qbs in epa per drop back like he's just playing incredibly well this season despite kind of all the pieces of the
21:4249ers uh falling down around him and getting injured and getting sacrificed to the electrical substation so purdy's really fun to me
21:50i i think you can play him with mccaffrey just because the target share is going to be so amazing uh especially
21:57assuming that mike evans is out uh and and with kittle and that's not going to be something that a ton of
22:05people get to i think but the you're still getting to play multiple very well projecting pieces in that stack yeah purdy
22:12for me one of the five quarterbacks that i list as a target for me among the quarterbacks i think we've talked
22:19about all five of them already the targets uh that i would you know if i'm playing 20 or fewer lineups he
22:27makes that list for me i love that call purdy uh looks pretty great here any other quarterbacks you want to talk
22:34about or should we move on to running backs uh yeah no one else that like demands mention so we can move
22:42on if you don't have anybody else you want to give a shout to yeah i think that we've covered like my
22:49my actual targets um you know there are other uh quarterbacks in my player pool i'm like i guess like sort of
22:57interested in like drake may but like not really it's one of those it's like if nobody's going to play him because
23:04we're all so concerned about the shoulder and like he hasn't looked as good this year and now he plays the bills
23:12defense i'm like a little bit you can kind of make a case for it but it's not really target it's more
23:19of like yeah i guess in an mmb set i might consider that's also like difficult to figure out the stack patrick
23:26mahomes i'm like sort of interested um you know travis kelsey a strong start stacking partner rishi rice maybe ascending a little
23:34bit uh but yeah if you don't have a special interest in any of these other quarterbacks we can just move on
23:41to running back because they're all just kind of like oh they'll make my player pool but i'm not like really enthused
23:49about them yeah yeah let's just move on then there's yeah like maybe two or three other guys where it's like i
23:56like their pieces and maybe you can do a double um but that we'll probably talk about them as we get to
24:04wide receivers yeah exactly uh so christian mccaffrey 7700 projected for 31 ownership just mega chalk going to mccaffrey he's obviously just
24:11like a strong point per dollar play a little bit too cheap um but uh you know i have a little bit
24:19concerned about christian mccaffrey's expected fancy point percentage of his team dropping uh significantly this year relative to last year maybe as
24:26you alluded to maybe if mike evans is out it comes back up uh sounds like you are interested in christian mccaffrey
24:33are you interested in being above 31 percent i don't know if i'm gonna like make an effort to get above 31
24:41percent uh but i i'm not really that i don't have concerns about the role i guess is what i'd say uh
24:48last week he was right back up to an 82 percent snap share 80 percent of the backfield opportunities uh and yeah
24:56as i mentioned it's the first time the 49ers had a somewhat competitive game this is what i think a three three
25:03and a half point spread it's fairly close so i'm not too concerned in that sense that mccaffrey like sits down in
25:11the fourth quarter um maybe that's a reason to get off of him as like if if you're not playing other pieces
25:18from the game we've talked about this in previous weeks where mccaffrey probably is just a better play if you're betting on
25:25the game environment in some other way uh for it to shoot out because it is going to be harder for him
25:33to reach that ceiling like if the 49ers are blowing out the broncos i i do think he sits so it's like
25:40something to think about when he's going to be 30 percent plus owned uh but yeah the the route share is just
25:48awesome he it's it's elite usage christian mccaffrey stuff uh but yeah there there are like other really strong running back plays
25:55so it's not like the hardest thing to get away from if you want yeah and so i my my note is
26:03that mccaffrey last year uh 33.9 percent of the 49ers expected fantasy points for the season so that's really high 34 percent
26:10this year down to 23.3 percent now as you know like some of that has been game script stuff where they haven't
26:18needed to use them as much one of those games in australia where they kind of like seem to lower the usage
26:25of all of their stars um last week up a little bit to 26.3 percent still you know significantly lower than last
26:32year in terms of his the expected fantasy point um market share for for the 49ers but uh as you know like
26:40still still a very strong role uh yeah i think you know he's still like on the season 12th of all running
26:47backs in terms of his team's expected fantasy point share um so i guess i'm i'm pointing it out as a potential
26:55reason to get away from uh mccaffrey just because of the ownership at the same time like you just he projects really
27:02well point per dollar and like you said like this is a game that should be competitive uh one would think uh
27:10not necessarily because bo nix is so much better at home when this game is in in san francisco but at least
27:17theoretically uh should be should be closer um so i no issue like i'm gonna play a fair amount of mccaffrey just
27:25kind of looking for some reasons to get away and then like you said the other reason would be we have a
27:32lot of really strong running back plays on the slate um we can i guess we continue moving down the the chalk
27:39at running back so after mccaffrey yeah chase brown at 6100 getting 24 ownership aaron jones 6023 jeremiah love 5800 uh getting
27:4719 let's start with that grouping are you particularly enthusiastic about anybody from that trio or are any of them fades for
27:54you uh i'll talk about them each one by one chase brown to me is fine um i did have a note
28:02this week that i i think you were alluding to earlier which is that yeah the jaguars have been more of a
28:09run funnel so far this year uh for brown really what it comes comes down to is the role inside the 10
28:17yard line the bengals have had a really weird season so far on offense where the offense is working uh they're like
28:24top 10 in epa per play and all of those stats like they are moving the ball down the field uh they've
28:31scored on 50 percent of their drives which is tied for second most i believe but all of their scoring has weirdly
28:39been either like long touchdowns from outside of the 10 yard line thrown to their receivers uh or field goals right so
28:46it's it's just not been many drives where they've actually gotten inside the 10 which is where a lot of the fantasy
28:54value of a running back ultimately comes from it's where a lot of chase brown's fantasy value comes from that's something that
29:01you think has to regress um so i'm fine playing brown i guess i'm just a little like surprised annoyed that a
29:09player who is down it what what is he at like 15 fantasy points per game this year it is showing this
29:16much ownership um but i like i guess it makes sense everybody recognizes that the the role is really strong it's a
29:24high total game um so he he's like fine to me i'll i think 24 percent's about right um aaron jones terrifies
29:31me at 23 percent uh so same with him like the role is so much better than a six thousand dollar price
29:38tag implies uh he was up at a 91 backfield xfp share last week i had the seventh most total expected fantasy
29:46points of any running back uh with jordan mason on ir there's just like nobody else for the vikings to hand the
29:53ball off to it's a smash spot against the dolphins of course an amazing matchup a really lopsided game total like it
30:01should just be a smash spot for any running back but aaron jones is like him and aaron jones or jackson dart
30:08who has more trips to the blue medical tent per game over the last couple of seasons i think it's probably dart
30:16but it's close right aaron jones gets banged up in every single game i can't imagine that if the vikings are leading
30:23by multiple scores in the second half jones gets banged up comes out of the game usually he goes right back in
30:31but like do you really do that against the dolphins if the game is a total joke uh kevin o'connell uh and
30:38their oc have been talking about getting damon claiborne more involved seems like this week would be the time to do it
30:45uh if there were any time to give carries to your day three running back uh when you're yeah just relying on
30:5330 year old aaron jones to carry the whole load and i yeah so jones scares me because he's chalky um i
31:00think there are probably better plays uh i i think i would be interested in going under uh yeah being underweight on
31:08him jeremiah love oh yeah jeremiah love i think is a smash uh the number three overall pick i had him as
31:15one of the best running back prospects since 2018 i had him ahead of jameer gibbs as a prospect uh by the
31:23analytics behind only i think ashton jenty saquon barkley and maybe one other uh like top 10 running drafted running back i'm
31:30forgetting bijon robinson love was like up there with those names as a talent to me three down skill set that we
31:37finally saw last week uh he got basically everything except for the two minute drill and some like obvious passing down uh
31:45like third and long snaps that tyler alger came in for those aren't that valuable for running backs anyway two minute drills
31:52are uh hopefully he gets that at some point but either way we're already talking about like the workload of a top
32:0012 fantasy running back for jeremiah love who if you compare him to chase brown aaron jones even cam scadaboo some of
32:07these other running backs that are near the top of the ownership projections this week at like similar price tags jeremiah love
32:15to me is more talented than all of them at least in like a raw sense like who is going to score
32:22multiple touchdowns uh massively over perform their xfp out of all these options that's jeremiah love uh my favorite stat i had
32:30is running backs playing against jamis winston over the last three seasons uh or sorry not running backs backfields so the entire
32:37backfield playing against jamis winston over the last three seasons averages 27 fantasy points per game on draft kings which is really
32:44really strong uh by expected fantasy points per game it's like a top 10 number i think love is a really really
32:52good play uh jamis can at at any point just completely melt down turn the ball over give amazing field position to
32:59the opponent uh it's a tight spread but you have as i mentioned like the game script proofness with jeremiah love where
33:07he is being used in the passing game a strong amount uh he's already top five in targets per out run with
33:14christian mcafree jameer gives up with those guys i'm like jacked up about jeremiah love this week i think he's an awesome
33:22play yeah tough to argue and to me he's better played than mcafree with the the price tag on jeremiah love and
33:29the lower ownership um which i guess you know they're not a direct comparison it's kind of apples to oranges kind of
33:36a comparison but yeah jeremiah love looks fantastic i think i'm also more interested in in aaron jones than you are but
33:44that's probably just my homerism because i am a vikings fan um that i you know just just really want aaron jones
33:51to succeed and you know seeing the workload and now it's like oh this is just the nut matchup he's he's also
33:59been kind of frustrating in that aaron jones like you expect him to be targeted you know five times a game and
34:06the vikings really haven't been so i kind of get the reservations there especially with jeremiah love being cheaper and lower owned
34:14like like yeah jeremiah love probably probably just a better play um of uh frankly all three of those uh in the
34:2158 to 61 hundred dollar range um let's move down um a name that i'm i'm surprised not to see at the
34:29top of the ownership number and uh he's been the projection here in terms of the ownership same as everywhere else i
34:36kind of wonder if this is one that like the algo is going to say one thing and then what people actually
34:43do is going to be very different i think you know i'm talking about derrick henry against tennessee yes first game back
34:51playing against tennessee do we really believe the the 10 projected ownership would you just lean into the narrative if it is
34:5810 what are you doing with derrick henry i don't believe it's going to be 10 uh at anyone that is in
35:06our dfs channel uh in the fantasy points discord which you can get into uh with your fantasy points dfs subscription uh
35:13and anyone that's in there saw me adding darren earlier this week uh darren who does our ownership projections and and saying
35:21darren like i i understand what you i see what you just projected i understand point per dollar that that's probably what
35:28it implies uh around the industry this is what everyone else is kind of projecting to for derrick henry's ownership but there's
35:36there's no freaking way man right like do you really believe that 10 derrick henry is what we're getting in this insane
35:43smash spot against his former team the titans they're 13 and a half point favorites uh henry averages over 25 draft kings
35:50fantasy points per game in games the ravens have won by multiple scores since joining up with them in 2024 like you
35:58really think that everyone's not just jamming in derrick henry this week and he's like yeah man i mean probably like it's
36:05it's hard to i i think henry is everybody's favorite gpp play so at 10 he's a total smash he's the best
36:13play on the slate like you warp your entire strategy around getting as much of him as possible i he's not that
36:20much worse than that if he's 20 or 25 like i still think he's a really awesome play the ceiling is really
36:28strong the biggest thing you can say is yeah you there he's one of several guys that we really want to pay
36:35up for this week maybe that does keep the ownership in check uh but yeah he he's just insane insane he's interviewed
36:42about it this week he says you know they did not try to re-sign him in tennessee when when his contracts were
36:50like what come on um yeah and and and there's like unlimited value on this site so really easy to fit him
36:57into lineups even at like i look at the price tag i'm like damn derrick henry's up to 8400 that seems expensive
37:05with all these other running backs but yeah like you said it just it kind of feels inevitable um that derrick henry
37:12is is going to put up you know at least like 20 fantasy points and then from there it's how how high
37:20does it get for derrick henry obviously i see that and it's like it's not inevitable there are ways for it to
37:27fail tennessee maybe tries to sell out to stop the run etc etc but um yeah it just just it feels that
37:35way that derrick henry is kind of a guarantee to put up a big game um and i i agree with your
37:42assessment like he's awesome play at 10 percent um obviously not as great if he gets up to like 20 percent like
37:49there there is a limit where i'd be like all right this is expensive there are ways that i could you know
37:57want to get away from this and and there are other running backs that i like quite a bit on this slate
38:04so i probably wouldn't lean into 30 percent derrick henry but yeah 20 is like yeah it seems seems okay um who
38:12else who else do we like because we were talking about the chalk quite a bit and i think the the chalk
38:19at running back as scott and i talked about many times last year like oftentimes running back chalk is just good like
38:27it's just like it's projectable and they they hit their projections pretty frequently so like you don't necessarily always want to get
38:34away from the chalk at running back um but are there are there other plays that you really like or i mean
38:42if you want to talk about the the screen and i was still i guess kenneth walker cam scadaboo also fairly chalky
38:49um maybe maybe we should maybe we should just like finish out the the running backs over 10 before we get into
38:56our really low own plays i think is it just those two kenneth walker and cam scadaboo above 10 because we do
39:04have a little bit of a a jump there um in terms of the projected ownership from from gianna stuff can you
39:11can you scroll up a little bit trey um yeah i think that is just just those two to finish out the
39:19the really chalky so how much interest in in scadaboo and kenneth walker before we get into the contrarian plays i think
39:26i kind of mentioned this but i think scadaboo is just jeremiah love if he wasn't as at least theoretically incredibly talented
39:34as jeremiah love and if he wasn't on a team that i'm kind of afraid is just never going to get into
39:41the red zone uh the giants have a decent enough total like this this cardinals defense is not imposing at all so
39:48i i certainly think you can play the scadaboo side but i i would lean toward love there they're only 300 apart
39:56um so love would be my preference but hey the workload for scadaboo is is also amazing uh he's also a really
40:03big part of their passing game very game script proof just worry about uh obviously the touchdown equity for the offense um
40:11yeah and how much they'll sustain drives uh ken walker there's like not much else to say on at this point he
40:18is just what would happen if we gave one of the most explosive players in the nfl a top three workload at
40:26the running back position uh the chiefs have run that experiment this year every single week it has produced amazing fantasy results
40:33yeah walk walker's a great play i would i prefer him it's not apples to apples obviously he's the most expensive guy
40:41but i definitely prefer him to like cam scadaboo aaron jones if we're kind of ranking these uh higher owned guys sure
40:48and like we talked about there is there's plenty of value you can get to at other positions so if you want
40:55to play kenneth walker with derrick henry and christian mccaffrey i think you can make that happen uh with with some of
41:03the value elsewhere all right let's now get into the the 10 percent and lower and just kind of open it up
41:10so obviously not counting derrick henry here because we're expecting him to be higher uh but in the kind of more contrarian
41:18bucket of running backs who are your big targets uh this is weird because it's like a conditional play so if derrick
41:25henry gets steamed and i don't get to be quite as excited about him as the game script sensitive high ceiling running
41:33back payoff option uh i actually think james cook at 7400 uh also showing 10 right now but i think way less
41:40likely to get steamed up into higher than that is pretty good he's kind of a mini derrick henry uh you mentioned
41:48neil like maybe your one concern in terms of josh allen is like do the patriots push if they don't i think
41:55that clearly leads us to james cook he averages 24.7 draft kings points per game uh when the bills have won by
42:02at least a touchdown dating back to last year he's third best among all running backs in fantasy points per snap while
42:10leading behind only jameer gibbs and derrick henry his passing game role did get worse as ty johnson came back last week
42:17but in a positive game script uh bills are i think six and a half point favorites or somewhere around there that's
42:25pretty solid to me when yeah if people aren't playing james cook when the bills are expected to win i think he's
42:32always good really efficient runner i has got has been on like the the sucky side of all the bills qb sneaks
42:40at the one this year but within a single game that variance can swing the other way or they just get inside
42:47the five and cook scores from there uh that yeah lots of ways that james cook can put up a massive tournament
42:54winning score so i like him quite a bit yeah that's a nice call and i think kyron williams is like i
43:02guess not not that similar but like similar in the in the like he's just a good running back who's going to
43:09have a great workload kyron kind of fits more i guess he's in the price range of several of the other running
43:17backs that we talked about um are you going to get to kyron with you know jeremiah love and some of these
43:24other pretty strong um value options it's interesting so the one like big note that i have on the rams this week
43:32and this whole game is i think theoretically you look at rams eagles uh with davante smith out uh with puka nakua
43:39beat up and you say that this could be like an ugly defensive slug fest rams are favored like maybe you want
43:47to play kyron in a spot like that uh i could understand it certainly that the rams rushing excuse me the rams
43:54run game has been really strong this year uh the top two running backs in terms of percent of carries going five
44:01or more yards in the nfl right now are kyron williams and blake quorum uh the kyron like suddenly has amazing advanced
44:09rushing stats when all the nerds and the spreadsheet people have always hated kyron williams because he's always sucked in those it
44:16hasn't mattered this year the rams have just been such a wagon running the ball uh that he has suddenly looked really
44:24good by rush yards over expectation and all of these other ways like nerdy ways of measuring running back play so i
44:31can see it um but i think the i'm more interested if i'm playing this game and saying the eagles get out
44:39ahead and then playing the rams like through the passing game uh because they've been the fourth fastest offense in the nfl
44:46while trailing uh 26 seconds per play while trailing this year so i i don't know how it happens this is like
44:54some super galbrain stuff but maybe you can play saquon barkley and see if that's how the eagles get out ahead i
45:01don't know that that's just like something rattling in my brain i don't know if i'm gonna act on it this weekend
45:08um but that that would be like a fun kind of contrarian way to play it with i'm guessing some ownership coming
45:16to don tavey and wicks and that being like the main piece people are playing in the game uh i didn't really
45:23answer your question on kyron but no he's he's probably not near the top of my list yeah i mean you uh
45:31you know make the assumption with aaron donald out miles garrett out maybe maybe you know saquon barkley can have some success
45:38against this rams defense playing a bunch of backups um you know i guess you can theoretically make make that case but
45:46uh okay not not super interested in kyron williams um who else do you like i mean i see braillen allen's on
45:53the screen but like let's just open it up players 10 and lower who are some running backs that you are enthusiastic
46:00about this weekend if there are any yeah we should at least talk about braillen allen um let me yeah let me
46:08pull up my notes here but effectively alan i'm expecting to see at least like a 70 opportunity share he has played
46:15a good bit at the goal line uh he's gotten every single backfield touch that hasn't gone to breese hall this year
46:23uh at 5200 that's pretty strong like and even real imagine breese hall if we didn't have to worry about braillen allen
46:30vulturing him at the goal line that's kind of what we get with braillen allen this week right uh it's it's not
46:38like a foolproof spot or whatever against the bears but i i mean this defense has not been super inspiring so far
46:45um isaiah davis is the rb2 here he there was one game that breese was out in in like 2023 where allen
46:53and davis were in like a 50 50 workload split um but it was under a different uh coaching staff like this
47:00staff seems to really really like braillen allen especially in high value situations he's been playing on third downs this year like
47:07i think he's pretty good at 50 200 10 percent uh yeah do you you want to save money on this slate
47:15to pay up to like the the really high price guys um and and allen is like a fine way to do
47:22that i think okay can i ask you about another um another player in kind of a similar situation potentially emmanuel wilson
47:30with i mean it just happened uh you know what while you were on a show before this show so you maybe
47:37haven't had a lot of time to think through the you know jadarian price is out now so emmanuel wilson another player
47:45who's stepping into a bigger role he's already had a pretty big role i don't know if this ownership also reflects um
47:52reflected erion price being out maybe emmanuel wilson gets more i'm not sure how much he actually does just because i don't
47:59know if people are really enthusiastic about playing this uh kind of split backfield or what extent to what extent we expect
48:07it to be split now with jadarian price out i'm not really sure um but how much interest if any do you
48:14have in emmanuel wilson at 4700 with no jadarian price now it's a starting running back at 4700 you have to at
48:22least think through right um i think he's decent so we saw price not play the entire fourth quarter of week two
48:29in a very positive game script for the seahawks and wilson got a 76 snap share 12 of the teams uh yeah
48:3712 of the team 16 running back carries um like a pretty strong workload in that spot it was less good in
48:44week three in like a more competitive game george helani playing in passing situations more i i guess like the nitpick i
48:52would have is when they did go to emmanuel wilson as the lead back uh they actually decided to play helani in
48:59the red zone more it was i guess it was two to one inside the 10 in that fourth quarter of week
49:06two uh for in helani's favor which is super annoying because it was in wilson's favor overpriced like the three quarters before
49:14that so the seahawks just seem obsessed with subbing their main back out at the goal line kind of regardless of who
49:21it is was what i came out of that game from i would still like have that level of caution here but
49:29hey at 4700 when you can i don't know what price the seahawks defense is but that seems like a pretty good
49:36running back plus dst stack uh yeah you i think that's the best way to do it you want to lean into
49:44positive game script because hope yeah helani will play if the game is competitive if they're passing but that that seems okay
49:51to me uh i don't think emmanuel wilson's any good at football but the projection itself is going to be pretty solid
49:59um yeah as long as we don't get into like crazy steamed ownership or anything i i think it's worth playing it's
50:06it's it's worth building with and seeing what else you can get into a lineup with emmanuel wilson is maybe more the
50:13way i would put it yeah i think i agree with that like he's certainly not like a smash especially just we've
50:21talked about so much strong value at running back and elsewhere that like you don't really need to be going there with
50:28emmanuel wilson but if he does open up something you know that you can't do with other running backs i think he's
50:36a fine final piece uh to to have in your lineup um all right what else at running back do you have
50:43any others that you are targeting uh that's probably it for guys i feel really strongly about um story 5 is just
50:51off disney plus melde dich jetzt an streamer es wieder und wieder hammer und wieder nur noch einmal es ist perfekt für
50:58die ganze familie bonnie muss das sehen can we can we roll reversal there there's one neilass play that i want to
51:05ask you about and i i have a feeling based on some stuff you said pre-show that this might be a guy
51:13you're you're interested in okay let's hear it are you gonna play basial tootin neil so i i am gonna play basial
51:20tootin i uh i you may have noticed if i've seemed distracted on this show at all it's because i had just
51:28a really great staff for basial tootin and uh you know the matchup and i cannot recreate what the stat was i
51:35can't find it anywhere i i think i just looked something up wrong so i thought it was a better matchup for
51:43an explosive runner than it actually is um so but i'm still gonna play basial tootin because yes his expected fantasy points
51:50have increased a little bit week over weekend every single week up from i want to 8.4 in week one up to
51:5813.9 in week three he seems to be taking on a bigger workload um i like tootin quite a bit uh but
52:05i i sadly my best reason for playing him was uh was taken away from me when i tried to recreate it
52:12just as we were starting the stream i was not able uh yeah i still like tootin i just think good enough
52:20role he's only 5600 he's leverage off of trevor lawrence everybody wanting to play the jaguars passing attack i think you can
52:27you know play play tootin uh as leverage off of the passing attack he's an explosive runner who can just you know
52:35shorten shorten the number of plays that you're getting from from trevor lawrence uh so yeah i do have a lot of
52:42interest in basial tootin i'm just i'm still kind of kind of just very sad that i that i can't recreate the
52:50staff that i this great staff that i had thought i had of the bengals allowing tons of explosive runs i mean
52:57i'll i'll give you some help on the basial tootin propaganda i i'm always uh down for some tootin of course uh
53:05bengals have allowed the most receiving fantasy points per game to opposing running backs dating back to last season their top five
53:12if you just look at this season everything about their defense is kind of just selling out to stop the deep ball
53:19allow teams to throw short underneath and this hasn't yet been like a massive part of the jaguars offense but liam cohen
53:27is the king of running back screens uh we saw bucky irving have a smash end of his rookie season basically because
53:34of the screen game we saw it from travis achan last year i was averaging two or three fantasy points per game
53:42just on screens alone which was like a top three mark among all running backs and we've heard every week that the
53:49jet from liam cohen uh from their oc that tootin is making a lot of progress they're excited about him he's they
53:57think they can play him more in passing situations uh i i think we're gonna get a basal tootin game at some
54:04point he looks freaking amazing uh he's like third in that percent of runs that go five plus yards stat that i
54:11mentioned earlier he's up there just with the two rams guys and jeremiah love uh he's looked amazing uh i do i
54:19do think that we're going to be surprised by the workload at some point this year but i don't know when it
54:26will happen but this i agree that this would be the perfect time in terms of him being the only piece of
54:34this game that's not getting played and especially i mean you have this quarterback just kneeling on the one yard line for
54:41no other reason than to let him get a touchdown apparently that kind of shocked me last week uh with eight minutes
54:49left in the game so you know just one more reason i guess to love the tootin leverage play um all right
54:56well i'm trying to think if there are any other players that there's no no others that are like big priorities for
55:04me um i don't i don't think we really talked about ashton genti like i love the role for genti just don't
55:11love the matchup with the chiefs so that's a little bit of a tough one for me where i'm like i think
55:18i'll play some but not enough that i i think we really need to talk about it much um yeah i feel
55:26like we we have i we we talked about dave montgomery last week as being a player i really liked and i
55:33think i'm still probably going back there this week just because they're playing the cowboys and that appears to be a good
55:41matchup for running backs but uh but i can't really say that i'm as enthusiastic about it after two two two duds
55:48in a row for dave montgomery and woody marks getting the goal line carry last week um i don't know if it
55:56did it hold up again this week where it was just alternating drives kind of the way that we thought the rams
56:03were was that did that hold up in week three as well so it mostly was that in week three uh one
56:11of the notable exceptions was on a montgomery drive uh i think it was the touchdown pass to foster moreau woody marks
56:18subbed out for monty at the one yard line to pass block for the moreau touchdown but that that was particularly tilting
56:25uh if you're like looking at the drive by drive stuff and like super deep in the weeds on this backfield it's
56:33yeah they rarely sub out uh within drives this was like the only one of the only drives that the texans got
56:40montgomery into the red zone he yeah they didn't make it into the end zone and they subbed him out for woody
56:48marks so i yeah i i don't think i can get to monty this week i i wish you all all the
56:55best of luck playing david montgomery i only because of the matchup i'm like yeah maybe maybe i do it one more
57:03time but yeah certainly not something i'm really enthusiastic about um all right should we move on to wide receivers let's do
57:10it all right wide receivers uh starting at the top parker washington we've talked about playing trevor lawrence and i'm assuming that
57:17once again you're your most uh the player you're gonna be playing primarily with trevor lawrence is going to be parker washington
57:25uh you can have more than 20 percent and you go play him in lineups without doing a game stack um yes
57:32to both um parker washington's amazing i feel like i don't know i maybe like let us know in the comments do
57:40you guys want to hear me just glaze parker washington every single week i feel like we did it for the first
57:47two weeks and then the field caught up in week three and i was like yeah what do you want me to
57:55say it's parker washington he's an awesome play i'm playing him every every week it it's all the same reasons this week
58:02uh we are so uh as you're watching this on saturday you might have more news than we do uh dj turner
58:10the bangles corner uh popped up with an injury on friday i believe or an ankle thursday or friday popped up with
58:17a limited practice with an ankle i would watch his status we initially were projecting him to shadow jacoby myers because he
58:24doesn't go into the slot nearly as much uh parker washington gets moved around it's like harder to just stick an opposing
58:32number one corner onto him uh but i mean if he's out then maybe that just opens up this passing attack even
58:39more maybe jacoby myers becomes more interesting but i think either way parker washington is an amazing play uh yeah not much
58:47else to say on on that uh it's just everything we talked about with lawrence um the the bengals finally being the
58:54ones to push the jaguars yeah he's he's an awesome play garrett wilson also right there at 20 broke the slate i
59:02mean i guess i would say broke the slate but he was certainly in a lot of winning lineups last week uh
59:09are we going back to garrett wilson this week i sure yeah the the bears are i believe let me pull it
59:17up but yeah the bears are the big the third biggest deep funnel in the nfl dating back to the start of
59:24last season uh yeah allowing the third most receiving yards per game on throws of 20 plus yards downfield their bottom seven
59:31on underneath throws so just really encouraging the downfield passing uh which garrett wilson of course took advantage of this past week
59:39had two deep targets uh notably kenyon sadiq tied him for the team high in deep targets with ad mitchell out which
59:46is the case again this week so we didn't we didn't talk about uh geno smith but i like he's more expensive
59:54than playing it through the bears but i i mean i go back to that i i think is fine to literally
60:01sadiq is also priced up a bit uh at like 4k but i i think you could just run that double back
60:09and that that's pretty good to me this week yeah seems totally reasonable uh very very affordable once again i mean wilson
60:16a little bit of a pay up but with uh with geno and sadiq being relatively inexpensive easy enough to get to
60:23that one um bengals i mean it sounded like so so you said that you're more interested in playing the cowboy stack
60:31than the bengal stack so let's talk about all of those receivers how would you rank your your interest in those four
60:38receivers jamar chase t higgins uh george pickens and cd lamb what is your level of interest unless he pickens is at
60:4612 ownership jamar chase at 16 t higgins at 14 look at trey got almost all of them uh on the screen
60:53in one and then who who else are we missing there um we got higgins chase pickens oh and cd lamb at
61:01nine percent okay so what what is your level of interest in uh how would you rank those four receivers for gpps
61:08uh if i'm just ranking them like as one-offs it would go with including salary and ownership and everything it would be
61:16george pickens as my favorite play uh then probably t higgins then chase then cd um obviously you're you're playing both of
61:23them in the respective doubles and everything but yeah just as a one-off pickens is the most interesting to me uh i
61:30think i already mentioned that that texans are a very single high heavy defense over the past 10 weeks that's been massive
61:38for george pickens uh versus single high his target share goes up to 28 percent uh his yards per hour run against
61:45single high ranks third best at the position behind only puka nakua and jackson smith and jigba his target per hour run
61:53nearly doubles compared to against too high it's not often that the cowboys have run into these single high heavy matchups but
62:00i think you want to play george pickens in all of them he has the same number of targets the same number
62:08of red zone targets as cd lamb this year of course their point per game average is separated by like 16 points
62:15per game or something insane uh it's coming for george pickens i i think this is the week that the regression hits
62:23it's a really good spot for him to me uh this is where i want to put my chips in on pickens
62:30at 6 300 he's a great play uh chasing higgins i'm pretty close on fairly indifferent on what's making me rank higgins
62:37a little bit higher is jake triby had uh an awesome note in slate breakdown which is that it's actually in these
62:45high total shootout games it's higgins that actually benefits a little bit more from just more touchdowns being scored averages over 20
62:52dk per game in these uh high total shootouts i think that's probably because a lot more of higgins scoring does come
63:00from touchdowns just like as a percentage whereas chase is much more like the the volume hog the ppr cheat code plus
63:07of course he's amazing in the red zone and down the field um but it's probably like with higgins being 2k cheaper
63:15uh and slightly less owned i think that if i'm throwing one into a lineup as a one-off it's probably higgins all
63:22right so we've covered all of those wide receivers i guess the the only part of those games that we have not
63:29already covered is the bring back for the the cowboys and we have nico collins back this week are we are we
63:37ready to just put nico collins back into our lineups we think that he's healthy enough to play in dfs what's your
63:44level of interest in uh nico collins as a one-off or in game stacks where you're playing the cowboys i think i'm
63:52probably only getting to him in game stacks uh just because like that i keep saying it there are so many amazing
63:59pay up options like it might be hard for me to like make room for nico collins if i'm not playing any
64:07cowboys on the other side um but yeah i i'm not really concerned about the health i think they kind of have
64:14to put him back out there in a full-time route share like this team and this offense is completely non-viable without him
64:22uh they're oh and three that it's just been really rough sailing for the houston texans this year uh so i i
64:29think that they just totally go for it uh he was a limited practice wednesday and thursday full practice on friday i
64:36would assume there's no limitations um yeah i don't know pay attention to like the the adam schefter and ian rapaport tweet
64:44storm on sunday morning for that i guess but i imagine he's full go um and yeah he's the the clear bring
64:51back all right who else do we like at wide receiver so we've covered a lot of like wide receivers that are
64:59getting some ownership i don't know if there are any others that you like really feel the need to talk about getting
65:06over 10 percent um any like your biggest targets where you think you're way over the field or like are just totally
65:14crazy to play at over 10 percent um any anybody that you want to talk about that's getting 10 plus ownership at
65:21wide receiver yeah michael wilson uh i was super wrong about michael wilson versus marvin harrison jr coming into the year i
65:28totally gal galbrained myself on it i was writing all these articles about heavy personnel usage and wilson's targets per out run
65:36in games with marvin harrison jr and how it was like a totally fake fabrication that's just clearly not true through three
65:43weeks uh michael wilson easily leading the cardinals in first free target share with 35 that's seventh highest among all players that's
65:51ahead of trey mcbride uh just by xfp wilson would be a top 12 xfp per dollar value on this slate uh
65:58the guy's averaging 19.9 draft kings fantasy points per game over his last 11 uh he's only 5500 he's an awesome play
66:06uh i think kind of what happened was he opened the year against two really tough matchups for opposing passing games uh
66:13the the chargers and the seahawks and didn't like didn't really pop off but had the role in everything and yeah he
66:21popped off last week against the niners uh gets this giants defense that is top four in points per game allowed to
66:28outside wide receivers so far i think he's a total smash uh like worth getting way above 14 on i made the
66:35same mistake as you this off season on on michael wilson versus marvin harrison so i feel your pain it is one
66:43of the more painful mistakes to have made with with how good michael wilson is looking at this point um who else
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67:11I didn't even realize JSN is 90, 100. I guess that's why his ownership is being kept in check a little bit
67:19because he just seems to put up 40 fantasy points every week.
67:23I don't really know if there's anything much to say on the JSN front.
67:28Anybody else you want to talk about that's getting ownership?
67:31I guess I would say if Derek Henry ends up projecting for 25% ownership on Sunday morning, then I'm probably going to
67:38pivot to a lot of JSN is how I'd probably play it just as the other pay up.
67:44Guys averaging over 38 draft kings points per game this week.
67:48He has an awesome covered shell matchup. Chargers play a bunch of cover four.
67:53He's at 5.7 yards per hour run against that shell.
67:56Yeah, it's JSN. Not much else to say there.
67:59In terms of other guys, I think that's probably good for the guys above 10%.
68:04Yeah, I'm just looking and scrolling here. Jordan Addison, we kind of talked about earlier is like a strong point per dollar value.
68:12Zay Flowers, I think is interesting. Also, if Henry gets steamed, Flowers has been 34% more efficient by fantasy points per hour
68:20run than JSN has this year, which is crazy.
68:23Even if on only 25 routes, you say the obvious concern against the Titans is game script.
68:28How much will the Ravens have to throw? But Flowers, as I said, hasn't run more than 14 routes in any game this year.
68:37He put up over 25 DK on 11 routes in week one.
68:41He's just seeing JSN-esque usage. He's not priced like JSN is.
68:44I think that's a worthy place to go as well.
68:48Yeah, definitely, definitely worthy. It's one of those where it's like, I don't think that Flowers will get steamed because everybody's going
68:55to be like, well, they're not going to throw the ball.
68:59They're just going to run the ball every time with Derrick Henry.
69:03So I don't think that Flowers gets a ton of ownership.
69:07All right, let's skip to the Galbrain plays. Who do we like that's below 10% ownership?
69:12Because we like several that are a little bit chalky, but there's so many wide receiver options on the slate.
69:19So much value that we can get to. So if we scroll down on the ownership a little bit below 10%, anybody that you are leaning into.
69:28And I guess, I'll leave it open to you.
69:31Who do you like below 10%? There's a lot.
69:34And I think this is the easiest place to get different on this slate is there are just so many like sub
69:415,500 wide receivers that are going to be single digit ownership and that are easy to mix and match in lineups and
69:49let you get up to the more expensive plays.
69:52I'll fire off a few. Luther Burden and Kalief Raymond are really strong to me.
69:57The Jets have been an underneath funnel allowing mostly throws within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.
70:03Kalief Raymond has 27% of the Bears targets within 10 yards this season.
70:07That's actually fifth highest among all wide receivers this year.
70:11Raymond has just really dominated that short area work for them.
70:15Burden's like right behind at 24%. So I think both of them are really strong.
70:20Raymond much cheaper. Of course, I would play Raymond just as a punt like in any lineup.
70:25Burden plus Raymond is a fun double. The craziest stat I had this week was going back to 2023.
70:32If you look at the yards per route run for every Ben Johnson receiver, it's number one Amon Ross St.
70:39Brown at like 2.7 way ahead of everybody. Then it's Luther Burden at 2.36 and then it's Kalief Raymond at 2.2 on
70:46more routes than Luther Burden has run for Ben Johnson.
70:49Raymond was really efficient for the Lions for a couple of seasons just in a part-time role.
70:55Now he's in a full-time role. I think this is real.
70:59I think it's a serious part of their offense that Raymond is serving a function for.
71:04As I said, he's always been efficient. It's just now in a full-time role where he's only run a few fewer routes than Colston Loveland this year.
71:13So Raymond is definitely my favorite sub 4K wide receiver punt.
71:17More efficient than Sam Laporta, Jameson Williams, Roma Dunze under Ben Johnson.
71:21Really fun play. Yeah, I always remember Kalief Raymond being a player who had a great yards per run because he was
71:29always somebody I looked at in like showdown stuff for DFS and I just always assumed like you give him a bigger
71:36role, obviously that's going to come down pretty significantly and now we're seeing it stick.
71:41So yeah, impressive stuff from Kalief Raymond. All right, who else do you got?
71:46DJ Moore, you already mentioned Josh Allen. So I assume you're playing DJ Moore as one of his stacking partners.
71:53Yup. Yeah, playing DJ Moore. He's up at a, I think it's a 0.3, 31% target per outrun rate this year in
72:00his two full games, which I did not expect out of DJ Moore whatsoever.
72:05They're using him a ton downfield. I think he's top three in air yards if you include no plays, so plays that
72:12got called back due to penalty or DP, or if you include DPI yards.
72:17There's some way to do that where it's like, yeah, DJ Moore has one of the best downfield roles in the NFL right now.
72:25So he's strong at 5,700. In terms of other cheap guys, this is gross, Neil.
72:30Like, talk me out of this, please. I've asked every single person I've talked to this week to talk me out of it, and nobody has yet.
72:39Malik Washington is 4,400. Devon Achan's out. Caleb Douglas is out.
72:43The Dolphins have no one else to throw to.
72:46Jalen Wright, not really a pass catcher. Ollie Gordon can catch passes, but what we saw in week three after Achan went
72:54out is Malik Washington started getting targets out of the backfield.
72:57I think he had two targets from the backfield alignment over the final three quarters of week three.
73:03It's a, theoretically, it's an interesting schematic matchup where the Vikings have just blitzed everybody all the time this year.
73:10It's like a 70% blitz rate. It's absurd, but like we haven't seen anything like this before.
73:16If that continues to be the case, which I think it probably will, Washington's targets per outrun, yards per outrun comes way up against the blitz.
73:25It's the same thing against two high looks. I don't know.
73:28It just makes sense to me that Washington is more of like the low route depth option, the quick, it's not really
73:36technically a check down, but like the, the, the quick out option could just be a PPR cheat code this week with
73:43no other viable short area pass catchers for the dolphins.
73:47I don't like it that much. Cause it's like how, what are his touchdown odds?
73:52Not very high, but he projects pretty decently for us, especially for a wide receiver under five K.
73:58So he's like someone I might mix in like against my better judgment, but yeah, talk me out of it, please.
74:05Neil. So I, I also listed him in my player pool, sadly.
74:09But I think that the reason to not get excited about it is he's on the dolphins.
74:15Like, has anybody done anything on the dolphins really this year?
74:18And like, he's, he's 4,400. So he's not exactly like the $3,000 punt wide receiver.
74:23You do need something from him. You need like 15 fantasy points to be really happy you played him.
74:30I mean, if you played like you can get away with like 10 or 11, but you're probably not winning a large field tournament.
74:38So yeah, I think he's, he's fine. And I definitely see the case for him.
74:43But yeah, if you're looking for a reason to not get excited about it, I would say, yeah, there, what is the
74:51upside on this dolphins offense when they're just not going to score any points.
74:55But if you are playing like Kyler Murray, like I am, I do think Malik Washington, probably the best option on, on the dolphins.
75:03So I, I can't really talk you often because I'm also playing a bit, but I'm also not, I'm probably not going
75:11to play a ton of him outside of those Viking stacks.
75:15I think that is where I'm like, you know what, if I want to do a bring back, I think he makes
75:22sense as the bring back option because like you said, he's just, he's had a pretty good role in the passing game.
75:29He's, you know, being targeted five first three targets, like 7.7 or something targets per game, decent role.
75:36And then yeah, three, three carries over the past few weeks and some targets out of the backfield.
75:42So yeah, decent, decent role for Malik Washington. It's just a matter of like the reason that we were never that excited
75:49to play Devon H and like, yeah, it's just like how, how many points is this team going to score?
75:56How many, like even like first downs are they going to get?
76:00Like, are they going to be able to extend drives enough that he's going to get any kind of volume?
76:07Um, so I think if you're looking for reasons to not play him, I would say just remember that he's on the
76:14dolphins and they might just not get many first downs.
76:17Um, also he's like this. He's more expensive than Don Tavian.
76:21Wicks is right there at 4,300. Uh, and then Wicks playing without, uh, Devonta Smith there theoretically, at least a good play.
76:29He's, he's been pretty great this year. Um, so there you go.
76:33There's your reasons. Yeah. I definitely liked Washington more before the Don Tavian Wicks value opened up with Smith confirmed out.
76:40Uh, but also like we're talking about Don Tavian Wicks, man.
76:43Uh, we, we have a joke in our projections meeting, uh, every week that Adonai Mitchell doesn't play it.
76:50It's like, thank God I don't have to clench my, I think I told the story on catching points last week that
76:57I got like a jaw condition from Adonai Mitchell, uh, once upon a time from playing him.
77:03Yeah. I think it was on this show. I heard it.
77:07Yeah. I definitely talked about it last week. Um, but Don Tavian Wicks is like the one Oh two of TMJ jaw
77:14condition stress for me when I'm playing him because it, it's the same thing.
77:19The guy is an amazing target earner. It's a 25% target per hour run over the last three seasons.
77:25Uh, but he, he is liable to go for 20 XFP, but eight actual fantasy points because he had three drops on
77:33eight targets like that that's totally in the realm of possibility for Wicks.
77:37Uh, it's like a little scary. You like, we talked about, Hey, the dolphin, it's the dolphins.
77:43They're scary to play. I'm a little scared to play the Eagles right now.
77:48Um, like their, their offense has been just kind of not working dead for this entire season.
77:53Sean Mannion was supposed to be an evil genius, but I didn't think that evil genius was going to be bottom three
78:01in motion rate dead last and play action rate bottom seven in under centered rate.
78:06Uh, after they talked so much about how they're going to get jail and hurts under center more like they're not doing
78:13any of the efficiency hack offensive cheat codes. So if Wicks is like the only show in town and we're depending on
78:21him to not drop the football over and over, like I think he's a better punt than Malik Washington, but this is
78:28like why I'm still interested in Malik Washington is I don't think Wicks is obviously better.
78:34Um, he, the ceilings there certainly, uh, 13 DK in eight games above a 65% route share, uh, has gone over 15 and two of five over 70%.
78:43Like, he has delivered and can deliver it in, in spots like this, but it's by no means a guarantee.
78:50Like I would want to spread exposures among these guys.
78:53Yeah. I would say neither of them is, uh, like can't fail.
78:57Um, none of the cheap guys. I don't think we have any like true can't fail cheap wide receiver plays just a
79:05lot of like, yeah, it seems pretty good. Um, Kalif Raymond can't fail too big to fail.
79:11Too big to fail. Of course. Kalif Raymond. Yeah.
79:14There's the one except Kalif Raymond can't possibly fail.
79:17Um, are you going to have interest in any charge receivers if lad is out?
79:22I know lad was at practice today in uniform, but didn't actually practice is my understanding.
79:27So seems like pretty actual questionable. Um, do you think you would play any like Trey Harris or QJ?
79:34I don't think they're, they're, they're going to be strong point per dollar values in the projections.
79:39Uh, and Chris Wecht is really smart and our projections are awesome.
79:43So there's that, uh, if lad's out, but yeah, I'm probably, I'm not going to play them over any of the three punts that we just talked about.
79:53All right. Fair enough. Um, all right. Who else do you like at wide receiver?
79:58Any other names that you want to talk about?
80:01Um, there are two other big ones in my head, uh, both in the 6k range.
80:06I'll, I'll give you actually, we, we talked about one pretty extensively on caching points.
80:11So people should go check out the case that Jake Tribby made for Jalen Waddle, uh, on caching points.
80:18I thought was really great. I'm going to be using him as the bring back for any of my purdy stuff.
80:25I think you can mini him with Kittle, uh, just a really fun, like schematic angle for Waddle.
80:31Um, I, I'll go right back to Christian Watson this week at 8%.
80:35Uh, he's a little expensive at 6,700. Matthew Golden projects as a better point per dollar value.
80:41Uh, but I, I, I just think Christian Watson's better.
80:45I think he's a more explosive downfield receiver. I think he's proven that time and time again over his entire career.
80:52Uh, and the schematic matchup is way better for Watson.
80:55Uh, the Buccaneers play a ton of cover three and Watson easily leads the team in targets per outrun over the last two years against that shell.
81:04Uh, Golden over his career sees a 33% target per outrun reduction against cover three.
81:09He's not been as good of a cover three beater.
81:13Same thing with the against the blitz. Uh, Todd Bowles and the Buccaneers always blitz a ton.
81:18Uh, Watson's and Golden's target shares just like perfectly flip from 19% to 25% when they are and aren't facing a blitz.
81:26Watson's on the good side of that this week because of the Buccaneers being more blitz heavy.
81:32Uh, I think he's an awesome play that I haven't really heard people talking about.
81:37It's the same kind of thesis with the Packers where even against the Buccaneers, uh, not being able to push probably with jail on Daniels.
81:45Um, I, they just can't run the ball. Like it is a completely not viable plan for the Packers to try to run the ball right now.
81:54Uh, so even if they're in positive game script and they aren't getting pushed and all that, it just doesn't matter.
82:01It's going to be dropbacks on dropbacks. Buccaneers are a major pass funnel anyway and always have been.
82:07so yeah, I'll real just generally the Packers passing game I think is underrated this week, but Watson, especially, uh, relative to
82:15golden, uh, or maybe that's another one where it's like, if we like both of them, maybe just play Jordan love too.
82:22Um, but yeah, that was a spot I wanted to make sure we talked about.
82:27Okay. So there were only two names on my targets list that I was going to bring up.
82:33You just brought up one of them was actually Matthew golden was on my target list.
82:39Christian Watson on my GPP plays list, but you just gave your synopsis there and that's a, yeah, strong, strong reason to play Watson instead of golden.
82:48The only other name that I have listed as a target and, um, I'm curious your thoughts on Malik neighbors.
82:55You talked about wanting to stack James Winston with Isaiah likely as a, like a potential play.
83:01You could play it that way, but you said Isaiah likely you didn't say Malik neighbors.
83:06I know that the separation score is not there for Malik neighbors this year.
83:11Are you just thinking that he's not like healthy enough to, to be viable at this point?
83:16What's your reason for, for not, uh, loving neighbors if you don't love neighbors?
83:21Um, I think if you're playing James Winston stacks, you, you can play neighbors in them.
83:27I'm probably not going to go to him as a one-off for the reason you said, I just don't think the guy's healthy.
83:34Uh, the, the ass is absolutely terrible. Um, yeah, that, that's just really where I'm at.
83:40Uh, I wanted to like write up the Giants passing game again this week.
83:44It's another really strong matchup and we kind of obviously got robbed from the fun coverage shell pass funnel spot last week, uh, by the rain.
83:53And hopefully that's not a problem this week. Like maybe it just happens now, like the same James Winston thesis, uh, that
84:01we've been laying out, which is the guy leads the NFL and catchable air yards per game over the last three seasons,
84:08uh, dropbacks per game, all of that. It's theoretically like an amazing, uh, generator of fantasy opportunity for all of his receivers.
84:16Um, but yeah, I think if I was only stacking him with one, it would be likely just because the role's been there more consistently.
84:24He's cheaper, he's healthier, all, all of those reasons.
84:27Um, but probably like a fun Millie play or some, or something, uh, Malik neighbors with Jameis and likely is like how
84:35deep you'd have to go for that for me, I think.
84:38Okay. Yeah. See, I think I'm just, and I haven't heard anybody talk about Malik neighbors at all.
84:44And like, I get it. Like he, he has not looked great.
84:48I just, I, I looking at it like stepping back a little bit.
84:53I'm like, okay, you get Jameis Winston who has, you know, just peppered top receivers at times in the past, like has been kind of a kingmaker.
85:02We haven't seen it yet this year. Everybody's like Jameis just, he's terrible, whatever, which is probably true, but he's played against
85:09the Rams when he had to step in replacing Jackson Dart in game.
85:14So like not really prepared and then he's playing against a really tough defense in the Rams.
85:20And then he played in the monsoons. Like we haven't really had, like you said, like we haven't really had the full like Jameis let's go experience yet.
85:29And now we finally get potentially the full Jameis, like maybe this is where we finally see him actually make a king.
85:36And yeah, I like Malik neighbors has not been awesome, but I think, you know, they haven't really been able to sustain drives enough.
85:45If we actually see the Giants have some success, I can see we get back to, you know, double digit targets and
85:52it's like, why did we not play Malik neighbors at 6% ownership at 6,000 with, you know, Jameis peppering him.
85:59So I think for large field GPPs, at least I love Malik neighbors.
86:03I think I'm going to be playing a lot just like under the hope that maybe they just have more success offensively
86:11and also we like the other side of the game.
86:14So it's kind of a fun game stack to play Arizona and the Giants.
86:19So I guess I have a little bit more interest there in Malik neighbors, but yeah, I do.
86:25I do also see the like keeps getting hurt.
86:28The separation isn't really there this year. We didn't really think he was going to be back fully, you know, early in the season.
86:36So it was kind of the expectation that he's going to ramp up.
86:40So I see the reasons to not go there also, but I think I'll just like just lean into the like, you
86:48know, kind of low price tag, low ownership, nice spot theoretically for Malik neighbors.
86:53Yeah, I think you're right. You might, every might, one might just be double counting this.
86:58You could, you could be totally right where we came into the year knowing, okay, he's not going to be fully a
87:05hundred percent because he's coming off the ACL, like coming into training camp.
87:10We didn't even know if he would start on pup or not.
87:14Like we didn't even know if he would be playing games in week three and week four.
87:20Right. Damn. You just like talked me into it.
87:23Pretty, pretty good. Neil. I am coming around on this.
87:26Yeah. The full James Winston experience has never been tried in 2026.
87:30At least I, ah, damn, this is interesting. Yeah.
87:33All right. You're going to have fun watching it.
87:36If you play it, I think, I think it'll be fun to watch as long as, as long as he stays healthy throughout the game.
87:45All right, good. I'm glad, I'm glad that I succeeded in my mission of talking you into, to play in bleak neighbors.
87:52Hopefully it's not a six fantasy point game this week and it's a 25 fantasy point game.
87:58Uh, any other wide receivers you want to talk about?
88:01Uh, I think I'm just trying to make sure there's no, we talked about Dontavian Wicks, like obvious punt wide receivers that we haven't at least touched on.
88:11Jawan Jennings. Yeah. With Justin Jefferson out, does Jawan Jennings make the list for you?
88:16He doesn't. Um, these like Kyle Shanahan creation wide receivers just don't, don't do it for me.
88:21Uh, when they are not playing for, for Kyle Shanahan anymore, I'll, I'll be honest.
88:27Uh, we, we talked about trying to, um, we, we aren't doing this on the show, but I was telling you before
88:34the show that the player comparison tool in data suite 2.0, uh, which lets you pick a player and like a range
88:41of their career and say, okay, after year three of their career, what's been like a similar path, uh, year by year
88:49in terms of this player's stats, their fantasy points per game, their first reads, their efficiency, however you want to set it
88:56up just to see like, oh, has a player ever taken this type of trajectory before?
89:02Like how real could this player be? Uh, I was doing that a lot with Coley Framon this week because Coley Framon,
89:09uh, as I think it's like his 10th season in the NFL, uh, just coming out of nowhere, like while being efficient,
89:17but a part-time player so late in his career breaking out at this point, I was like, there can't be any comparable receiver to that, right?
89:25And there really isn't, but one of the closer ones is Jawan Jennings, uh, and I think that just speaks to Kyle
89:33Shanahan more than anybody else is, is able to just scheme targets to whoever he wants to or whoever he's forced to in the moment.
89:41I think we lived through that moment in time for Jawan Jennings, so I, I would have trouble getting to him, especially
89:49over Coley Framon, who it's like actively been happening for with a different genius play caller.
89:54Um, but yeah, I, I don't know. You, you seem more into the Vikings than me.
90:00So do you have like anything else you want to say on them?
90:04No, just that he's cheap and like theoretically, like I assume he is the wide receiver too for the Vikings now in
90:11kind of a great matchup with Miami, but you know, it's also possible that they're just not going to have to throw all that much.
90:20Uh, so I, I don't want to pound the table for like Jawan Jennings has been absolutely nothing so far this season,
90:27so it's hard to get too excited to be able to I think he's in my player pool at least just as we're talking about cheaper options.
90:36All right, cool. Yeah, that's all I have at receiver.
90:40I think we were pretty exhaustive in covering most of these guys.
90:44So yeah, I think we can move on to tight ends instead of, yeah, I'm not going to list out every name
90:51that I, I'm going to play in my 150 set.
90:55So yeah, let's talk some, some tight ends. And, uh, oh, by the way, since you brought up the, uh, you know,
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91:53Scott and the team at fantasy points. Um, all right.
91:57So TJ Hawkinson, speaking of the data suite, one thing that I looked at was TJ Hawkinson with and without Justin Jefferson back in 2023.
92:05And my God, was it a stark difference for, for Hawkinson, 9.9 targets per game in games without Justin Jefferson in 2023,
92:12uh, 17.31 fantasy points per game that season without Jefferson.
92:16That was 2023. Now Hawkinson, obviously three years older, but it's not like he's elderly.
92:21Um, I think I'm, I know I'm more into the Vikings than you are.
92:26Uh, so I'm, I'm going to be playing a lot of TJ Hawkinson at 3,300 against the dolphins.
92:32Do you think you're going to get there this week?
92:35I, I mean, yeah, there's, I, I don't hate it.
92:38Um, aside from like ownership on TJ Hawkinson, I'm always going to be a little grossed out by, but yeah, he's 3,300.
92:46The role could absolutely be there, um, in, in lineups where you need to punt tight end.
92:52I don't think he's the worst thing ever. All right.
92:55I'll take, I'll take not the worst thing ever.
92:58Uh, Trey McBride. Um, I know, I know you're interested in that game.
93:02I assume Trey McBride. Are you, are you double stacking with Brissette with, uh, with McBride and Michael Wilson and, and do
93:10you like, uh, McBride as a one-off? Uh, yeah, I definitely think you should double stack him with Brissette.
93:16Um, I, yeah, I don't know. I, I haven't put that much thought into, in terms of one-offs.
93:22Do I prefer Trey McBride or Brock Bowers? McBride, we've obviously seen it over such a larger sample, uh, in terms of,
93:30he's just going to have the utilization of, and the fantasy points per game scoring of a top five wide receiver every single week.
93:38And he's still is not priced that way on DraftKings.
93:41Uh, but it was kind of the same for Brock Bowers last week.
93:46I've been talking up this Raiders offense for the last couple of weeks, uh, where I think it's been very underrated and how well they've played.
93:55They played amazingly without Brock Bowers. They played even better with Bowers in week three.
94:00Uh, they went from like 17% to over 50% of their plays using 12 personnel, two tight end sets, uh, once Bowers
94:07came back and they just lead the league in EPA per play from 12 personnel.
94:12That was actually true both before and after Bowers came back.
94:16But the point is like when they go heavy with multiple tight ends, it's been really, really good.
94:22Uh, the Raiders are a top five offense in pace of play while trailing this year.
94:27So if the Chiefs do get up, I think we could see another just insane Brock Bowers blow up game, uh, after
94:35he just had 23 XFP, 11 first read targets last week.
94:39It's not like a coincidence to me that in Bowers first game under Clint Kubiak, he went absolutely bananas.
94:45Uh, set. I believe it was a career high first read target share or damn close to it.
94:51Uh, so yeah, I think as a one-off, I just prefer Bowers.
94:55Um, but yeah, in stacks, obviously I'm not going to tell you Trey McBride's bad.
95:00Yeah. So, so we're, I mean the, the pay up options at tight end look pretty good this week.
95:07It's not a week where I feel like there's a lot of value that I'm really, especially going after because I feel
95:14like the payups are so good in, in McBride Bowers and then even Kittle at, at 14% ownership, 5,100.
95:20I mean, you, you talked about your, your love for party.
95:24I assume that extends to, to Kittle also. Yeah.
95:27I think if I'm picking, if I'm just ranking plays, I think Kittle's the best tight end play on the slate this week.
95:35Uh, he, he was at a 42% target share after Mike Evans left the game last week.
95:41Uh, he was up at an 89% route share.
95:44I think I probably said all these stats earlier talking about Purdy, but yeah, he just is priced like a mid range wide receiver three.
95:52Uh, and he has produced like a wide receiver one, uh, in full games over the past three seasons.
95:59He, he's just great. Uh, only Puka and JSN average more fantasy points per route run over the, uh, last two seasons.
96:06Just yeah. Kittle's like pretty hard to beat at 5,100.
96:09Like that, that's going to be the tight end I have the most of, I think.
96:15Yeah. Kittle looks awesome. We just got a fun fact from, uh, producer Trey says that the Raiders and Saints game was
96:22the most tight end touchdowns in a game in NFL history, which that's funny.
96:27I did not like think about that at the time, but yeah, Brock Bowers, he points out for hours, mayors, Juwan Johnson times to Noah fan times too.
96:37That is, that is pretty nuts to get six touchdowns from tight ends.
96:41Uh, and maybe we just see that going forward with, with Brock Bowers and Michael Mayer every week just smashing.
96:48Um, yeah. So the, the payups look great. And then we get Brenton strange at 3,200.
96:53If we're leaning into the like Cincinnati against tight ends or tight ends against Cincinnati, I should say has been a thing.
97:01Uh, Mark Andrews, you know, maybe he goes overlooked with people wanting to play, um, Derek Henry instead.
97:07What, uh, do you have a lot of interest in, in these lower tight ends or are we just kind of sticking with the payups?
97:15Uh, I mean, strange against the Bengals who have given up, I think it was like 20% more fantasy points per game
97:23and like a 11% higher target market share to opposing tight ends since the start of last year than any other defense, uh, in fantasy points data history.
97:32Yeah, that sounds pretty good to me as a tight end punt at 3,200.
97:37Um, obviously like him more in game stacks for that game.
97:40The role's not actually been that great for Brenton strange, but the matchup is just so in his favor that it's hard to poke holes in it.
97:50Uh, I don't think I'm wasting a lineup on Mark Andrews when I can have George Kittle in it is cut is kind of how I'm viewing it.
97:59Uh, if he scores two touchdowns and buries me, so be it.
98:03But I, I just think Henry and flowers are such good plays that I would have trouble getting to Andrews.
98:10Um, I think you mentioned, uh, that you could go right back to the, the jets with Kenny and Sadiq, just that double stack.
98:18Is he a, is he a one-off type tight end or is he just for double stacks?
98:24I think it's gone under reported that Kenyon Sadiq was the most athletic tight end this century to attend the NFL scouting combine.
98:32Uh, that's per our spork composite athleticism score at fantasy points, uh, which I, it, I peek behind the curtain.
98:38I'm the one that calculates that, but yeah, Sadiq easily had the best one ever for a tight end hundredth percentile.
98:45Uh, and, and that is predictive at the tight end position unlike at the wide receiver position, especially just being a purely
98:53amazing athlete is highly predictive of fantasy scoring for tight end prospects.
98:57Uh, that hit earlier than I think anyone would have expected for Sadiq in week three.
99:02Uh, he, he went over a hundred receiving yards.
99:05I believe that's his first hundred receiving yard game since high school.
99:09Like the knock on Sadiq was always, he wasn't actually that productive at Oregon.
99:14Like are, are we over reading into an athlete that doesn't have like that much on field production?
99:20He, he just showed it and he showed the athleticism, uh, on the touchdown he scored.
99:26He made a couple of amazing plays down the field.
99:29Uh, so yeah, I'm willing to go right back to that.
99:33They only priced him up to 4k. Um, we, we talked about the matchup from a deep ball perspective being intriguing.
99:4080 Mitchell, Mason Taylor out again. Uh, the route share was like lower than you would want for a tight end.
99:47I think it was 56% or so. Uh, but that could very easily just come up, uh, now that he's proven to
99:54be their second best offensive weapon pretty clearly. Uh, and with Reese Hall out as well.
100:00Uh, another fun thing with Sadiq is they gave him like an end around touchdown or I don't remember if he actually scored on it or not.
100:09They gave him an end around carry in week one at the goal line.
100:14So maybe there, yeah. So maybe there's a little bit of extra rushing touchdown equity there too with Reese Hall out.
100:21Maybe that's like a package they go back to at the goal line.
100:25Uh, yeah, I, I like Sadiq a lot. If you're trying to get different at tight end, I think that's one of the best ways to go.
100:34Yeah. I think Sadiq is a very intriguing. He's also questionable.
100:38I think right now on the injury report. So we'll have to keep an eye on that, but I assume he's going to be good to go.
100:47Doesn't sound like a super serious injury. Um, I do see two, two other payups on the screen that I am interested
100:55in and Travis Kelsey and Dalton Kincaid who are, you know, kind of right around George Kittle's, uh, price tag.
101:01So because they are so close in price to Kittle, does that mean you're not going to be getting to Kelsey or
101:09Kincaid or are they going to be like, you know, depends on the lineup if you're stacking that kind of thing.
101:16Yeah. I mean, I think they're both fine if you're stacking their teams, but they're, they're not guys I was specifically targeting.
101:23Any other tight ends you are targeting? Um, there's, we, we talked about Mike already, uh, when we discussed Joe Burrow.
101:30So not much more to say on that, but I, I think he is a really good way to punt and get different in that game.
101:39Um, we, we're waiting on, do, do we know if Colby Parkinson's playing yet?
101:44I don't, I have been on shows for this one.
101:47Last I saw, he's questionable. Yeah. Uh, if Parkinson's out and maybe even if he's in, then Tyler Higby is a pretty
101:55interesting tight end punt to me at 3,100. Uh, I, I don't know where the, with, with these like low end tight
102:02end punts, I feel like on Sunday morning, like one or two of them will get steamed or they'll like get into the cash build or whatever.
102:11And they'll get a bunch of ownership. I don't know who that's going to happen to, but ignoring any of that, uh,
102:19Higby is a pretty, a pretty strong play. I think, uh, they, they just went to him constantly after Terrence Ferguson, uh, left the game in week three.
102:28So yeah, the role was just insane there. If Parkinson's also out, it's like just going to be Higby in an every down role.
102:36Uh, that that's really strong to me. Yeah, I've got Higby on my, on my, uh, go for it.
102:43Talk about it. Yeah. Well, no, I just, uh, I was going to bring up another name, uh, cause since we're talking
102:50about washed tight ends that didn't have a role before last week, um, with Devonta Smith out, do you think it's possible
102:58that Zach Earths becomes a thing this week? Devonta Smith and obviously Dallas Goddard still out.
103:03I mean, he's only been with the team. He played after only being with the team very briefly.
103:09They talked about like, I don't know if he's going to be out there and he's not the most athletic tight end.
103:17Like he'll catch it and drop to the ground.
103:20But, uh, do you think Zach Earths like maybe, maybe because they need somebody to throw the ball to, uh, is Zach
103:27Earths playable or is that, is that too fancy?
103:30Ooh, I love, I love Zach Earths as like the, in the spirit of old ass tight ends that just continue to
103:38get targets long after anybody in the fantasy world wants them to, I have always appreciated Zach Earths for that.
103:44Uh, I do think on a slate where there, there's literally Tyler Higby on the other side, there's like five other good punt tight ends we talked about.
103:54I don't know that I need to go there, but I, I appreciate the, the shout and the thought that's, that could be fun.
104:02All right. Yeah. I had to throw it out there just in case maybe he gets a little bit more involved, but
104:09I don't know how much I'll go there either.
104:12Um, all right. So are we ready to start making some lineups?
104:16Yeah, let's do it. I, I'm going to start the first one because I already know what, that I want to force
104:24you to play a Kyler Murray lineup with me since, since you don't have a lot of interest in him and I, and I want to play him.
104:33Uh, let's just, let's just do a little Kyler.
104:36So I want to do a Kyler with Jordan Addison and TJ Hawkinson, make it very simple.
104:42Um, I'm tempted to throw Aaron Jones in there also, but I, we'll, we'll just start with, uh, with that grouping.
104:49So let me throw it in there. Um, and Hawkinson and that's, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna put any, uh, bring back here.
104:57You, you could always add one if you want to, um, since you express some interest in Malik Washington, but that's, that's
105:05gonna be up to you if you decide to add him.
105:09Yeah, we'll see if we need it, I guess.
105:12Um, okay. I want to put, let's just put Derek Henry in the lineup.
105:16Let's get it over with. All right. Derek Henry going in.
105:20Um, I think we're both pretty into Jeremiah Love, so I'm going to throw Love into the lineup.
105:26Love it. Is that, was that intended? Uh, I, I don't know if it was, oh, like love, love.
105:33Yeah. Yeah. Not intended at all, but we'll, we can pretend it was, uh, okay.
105:38Wide receivers, 5,400 per player remaining. Why don't we go?
105:41Let's do George Pickens. All right. George Pickens, 6,300.
105:44Um, let me see if there's a defense that I love.
105:48I feel like I had some opinions on defense.
105:51Um, could always go jets, could go Cardinals. Let's see.
105:54I thought I had, I had a good defense idea and now I'm, uh, yeah, I'm not, I don't love any of these defenses, but let's pay down.
106:04Let's pay down for the, um, let's go with the jets.
106:07No, let's go Cardinals because we have Jeremiah Love.
106:10The reason I was, uh, hesitant to go Cardinals is in case we want to throw Malik neighbors in there, but we'll,
106:18uh, we'll, we'll, you know, pivot if we decide to go that route.
106:22So we'll go Cardinals with Jeremiah Love. That's just a good correlation.
106:26Yeah. Fair. Um, yeah, I think Cardinals Love is good.
106:30We have 13 K remaining. Uh, how what's JSN?
106:33How much is JSN? Could we just jam him in here?
106:36We'll still have 4,000 left over if we put JSN at wide receiver, uh, which of course gets us to Jawan Jennings.
106:44Uh, but he, let's see what else do we have at 4,000?
106:48Khalif Raymond 36. Oh, we do have Khalif Raymond that we could do.
106:52We could do it that way. We could put like Ken Walker and instead, if you want to do a four, a
107:004k punt, uh, but this, this works really well.
107:03I'm surprised how easy it was to get up to some of these, uh, payups.
107:08No, and honestly, I don't think that we need to, you know, spend that 400.
107:13Like there's no clear, like we, we get better.
107:16I think by, by spending that 400, um, unless there's a tight end.
107:20No, cause we, we have Kyler Murray. So I want to do the Hawkinson thing.
107:25I think we just do this. Should we just, should we just roll with this lineup?
107:31Yeah. I think that's JSN and Henry and that's an awesome lineup to me.
107:36Yeah, I like it. So we've got Kyler Murray with Jordan Addison and TJ Hawkinson.
107:41No bring back. Derek Henry as a one-off Jeremiah love paired with the Cardinals defense.
107:46Uh, George Pickens and JSN and Kalief Raymond one-offs.
107:49So really strong lineup leaves 400 on the table on this slate.
107:53No, no issue leaving some salary on the table.
107:56Let's hope that this, uh, goes through. There we go.
107:59Went through so we can make another lineup. Oops.
108:02I did not mean to resubmit the same one.
108:05All right. draft a new team. Was that one too chalky for the Millie?
108:10Probably not. If only if Henry gets super steamed, I guess, but yeah, we, we Henry not expected to be.
108:17And honestly, uh, Kyler is not actually getting that much ownership.
108:21Obviously his, his, uh, stacking partners are getting a fair amount of ownership.
108:25Um, JSN not like crazy highly owned. So I think, I think we're okay.
108:30Awesome. Yeah. Raymond is, was showing single digits. I don't, I don't know.
108:34I, I keep expecting everyone to get onto Kalief Raymond, but maybe that one's not coming.
108:40Maybe that one's just me. People are just not believing.
108:43Yeah. All right. Let's do. I, can I do an entire, um, can I, can I, no, that that's too great.
108:50You just want to make a whole lineup on my account?
108:54Is that what you're going to say? Cause you can, you can do it.
108:58I w I was going to ask if I could do a bring back cause I mentioned it on the show.
109:06No, you can, you can. Absolutely. That's part of, if you want to include a bring back, absolutely.
109:12You can. Okay. I want Purdy CMC Kittle Waddle and you can just do whatever else you want around it.
109:18Purdy. CMC Kittle and Waddle. You got it. All right.
109:22Let's see. Um, all right. So we have 48, 60 left per player.
109:26Let's see. Who do I like a wide receiver?
109:29That's going to, uh, fit well here. I know that you're, you're just want to go, going to get, want to go right back to, uh, to Raymond.
109:39Let's see. He doesn't need to be in this lineup.
109:42That's, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Um, I'm trying to think there's any like minis that I like.
109:49Well, we can, we can go a little bit cheaper at running back.
109:53So let's play one of the relatively inexpensive running backs.
109:56Um, we could go like tootin and T kind of mini.
110:00Could work. I honestly, no, you know what? I'm just going to go back to, to Jeremiah.
110:06I love Malik neighbors since we, that's just a mini that I really like.
110:11Uh, now we have 41, 66 left per player.
110:14Um, let's see if we do play Kalief Raymond, what else can we fit in here?
110:19So Raymond, we use 8,900. Uh, do you want to do a defense in a flex?
110:24Uh, sure. Show me defenses. Um, for cheaper ones, cause there, there are some like 6k range flexes.
110:30I definitely like that would be nice to get up to, um, Patriots.
110:35No chargers. No Titans. No, uh, dolphins. Is that correct?
110:38No, it's probably like a low play volume game, but like Kyler could absolutely have a meltdown.
110:44That would be pretty funny. Uh, not, would not be funny, but we could do it.
110:49Neil, but it, it would be funny. Um, scroll down a little more.
110:54I missed Cardinals jets. Yeah. Let's throw the dolphins in there and see, see what's left at flex.
111:00So we've got 6,900 Brock Bowers, Zay flowers, Saquon Barkley, Gary Wilson, Christian Watson.
111:05Yeah, that's juicy. Uh, that's so, that's such a tough decision.
111:08I love all of these guys, except for Saquon Barkley.
111:12Uh, let's go with, uh, let's, let's go with flowers in this lineup.
111:16Yeah. Cause we were assuming he's going to play.
111:19I know he's, he's questionable, but yeah, I'm assuming he's going to play.
111:24Yeah. So we, we did, uh, we did Derek Henry in the last one.
111:28Flowers probably going to be pretty contrarian. So I think that we, we have enough contrarian pieces in the lineup.
111:35All right, we're going to, we're going to play it.
111:38So we use the full salary. We go Brock Purdy with Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle with the Jalen Waddle bring back
111:46Jeremiah Love and Malik neighbors, a little mini. And then we have Kalief Raymond one off again.
111:52Uh, Zay flowers one off and the dolphins defense.
111:55There you go. Two lineups. Let's let's win a million with one of them this week.
112:00Let's do it. I love those were both awesome.
112:03Freaking lineups. I'm excited. I'm pumped. Yeah. This is our week four.
112:07We're taking it down. Yeah. Let's do it. Get ready for everybody.
112:11All right. Uh, Ryan, we're about to get out of here.
112:15Where, uh, where can we find you? What else should they look out for?
112:20Et cetera. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Ryan J underscore Heath.
112:24You can find all of my written work, including advanced matchups, uh, on fantasy points.com.
112:29That is under the DFS, the fantasy pro subscription that you can go get and use promo code DFS for 10% off of.
112:37Uh, yeah, that that's it. Uh, get, get in discord, go listen to the Sunday morning update show with Scott Barrett and Johnny Proctor as always.
112:46And that, that's all I got. Uh, what do you, what do you want to shout out, Neil?
112:52Yeah. I mean, uh, same stuff as always. You can find a lot of my content, most of my content here at fantasy points.
113:00Um, my, my showdown written breakdowns for all of the Sunday night football, Monday night football, Thursday night football breakdowns.
113:07Those are all behind the paywall at fantasy points.
113:10Uh, otherwise you can find me in on my channel, the flannelverse YouTube channel, uh, where I do breakdowns, video breakdowns before each showdown flagship, uh, showdown slate.
113:20Um, and, and some written work there, but that's all behind the paywall.
113:24Yeah. So those are flannelverse YouTube or fantasy points are the primary places you can find me, but make sure you are
113:31checking out that, uh, that Scott and Johnny show on Sunday morning.
113:35Cause we'll have all the updated information for that one with injuries coming out.
113:40As well. Um, all right, let's get out of here.
113:44Thanks everybody. Please like subscribe, et cetera, et cetera.
113:47Good luck this week. If we don't win a million, I hope one of you does.

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