0:00What's up, Fantasy Boys? This is Week 3 of Outside The Box, where we're going to be going position by position, starting
0:07with quarterbacks, then running backs, receivers, tight ends. And we're going to be talking about some of the chalk, talking about whether
0:15we're going to want to play the chalk. But the premise of the show generally is we're going to be finding some
0:22more outside-the-box plays for DraftKings tournaments that we like.
0:25I'll be asking Ryan about some of his favors, maybe throwing some names at him that I'm interested in as we go.
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0:49Ryan, Week 2, as far as our built lineups on the show, not so great.
0:54We did not do so well with Trevor Lawrence putting up 7 Fantasy Points for us.
0:59We had some things go right. That one, like most of the plays in it were pretty good.
1:05But yeah, we got to get back on the horse this week after kind of a disappointing Week 2.
1:12Yeah, I'm ready to get back on the horse.
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2:40Ryan, we're going to start here at quarterback as usual.
2:43We don't really have any chocolate quarterbacks. We don't need to spend a ton of time poking holes in the chalk.
2:50But we do have, you know, we have three up there, 8% and above.
2:55So I guess I'll just ask you about those three.
2:58Do you have any big stands that you love one of these three or fades out of Patrick Mahomes, Tyler Shuck, and Josh Allen?
3:06I don't think any of them are clear fades.
3:09I think all of these are pretty strong plays.
3:12The one I want to talk about the most is going to be Tyler Shuck.
3:17I wrote Shuck up in the Everything Report this week.
3:21That's what Graham Barfield and I write for the site every single week, going over usage from the previous games, looking at
3:28kind of overall team trends that are important to be aware of.
3:32What we've seen from the Saints, of course, the last two weeks and just since Shuck took over is they are garbage time gods.
3:40And it's maybe unfair to even call it garbage time because, hey, they forced overtime in week one.
3:46They won in week two. It's really just fourth quarter comeback mode.
3:50The Saints are insane. They're a complete fantasy football cheat code.
3:54I likened it to Blake Bortles back in 2015 for anyone who was around playing fantasy then.
4:00That Jaguars team just led the NFL in fourth quarter comebacks.
4:03Bortles was a top five fantasy quarterback. Tyler Shuck is almost like if Blake Bortles also was the team's goal linebacker because
4:11Kendra Miller was a healthy scratch in week two after he was the goal linebacker.
4:16Back in week one, Shuck was the one getting the most rushing volume inside the 10.
4:21That's what we saw at the end of last year as well when the Saints were unhappy with their backfield.
4:28And it seems they're unhappy with the Travis H and Alvin Kamara split that's going.
4:33It's just completely unserious. So really what they're saying to us is the Saints are just going to wait until the fourth quarter.
4:41They're going to lead all teams in yards per play in the fourth quarter.
4:45Just become this insanely explosive offense. Kellen Moore is going to tire out defenses with a league high plays per game mark
4:53as he's been doing for most of his career.
4:56But it really just is coming to a head here with the Saints team.
5:01So my kind of overall angle for Shuck and for this game is it's a low total.
5:06But the Raiders offense, I think, is somewhat underrated.
5:09We saw them put up 26, 27 points over each of the last two weeks.
5:14One of those was against the Miami Dolphins. But of course, they were also strong against the Chargers.
5:20They are getting Brock Bowers back likely in some capacity this week.
5:24They are already one of the most efficient teams in the NFL in 12 personnel.
5:29The Saints have struggled to defend that so far this year.
5:33So my angle is I really think the Saints and especially Ashton Gentry can show up to this matchup.
5:40And I think they can push the Saints. And if they do, then it's fantasy football fireworks for Tyler Shuck, as we've seen.
5:47So he's probably going to be one of my favorite quarterback plays on the slate.
5:52Josh Allen, not far behind, to be fair. The Bills have come out a lot more aggressively this year.
5:59They rank top six in pass rate over expectation in seconds per play in terms of pace.
6:04They are much faster than we've seen over the previous two seasons when it was Sean McDermott as the head coach probably
6:12tamping down on the offense a little saying, let's slow it down, keep the defense off the field.
6:18That's not been the case for Josh Allen and the Bills so far this season.
6:23They have looked amazing, been insanely explosive. It's a strong schematic matchup for Allen because he has been willing to force the
6:30ball downfield against cover four, which is kind of a tendency thing for quarterbacks.
6:35Not all of them will do it. But Allen is totally fine taking shots against it.
6:40He's top three in deep throw rate against that shell, which the Chargers play a ton of.
6:46So I really like Allen and the Bills passing game.
6:49We'll talk about the receivers later probably as well.
6:52Mahomes is like fine to me. I don't think he's as good of a play as Tyler Shuck or Josh Allen in terms of upside at the price.
7:02But hey, he projects really well. There are different ways to stack him up.
7:07We've seen Mahomes be really greedy at the goal line over his career.
7:11Just the little stupid pop passes that count as passing touchdowns can definitely be in play.
7:16So yeah, I think all these guys are fairly strong.
7:20Yeah. Funny on a week that quarterback ownership is the most kind of spread out is oddly just when I feel the
7:27best about the top few plays by ownership projection.
7:30Yeah, I think it kind of makes sense just because none of them are actually chalky.
7:35Like they are the chalkiest. But like you said, it's just super flat.
7:40So you're getting the best plays at not much more ownership than the second tier of plays.
7:45Yeah. Tyler Shuck. That's such a tough one for me because you tell me that Tyler Shuck is tied for the most
7:53ownership on a slate in week three. And my instinct is like I want to fade that.
7:59But also like it's there. They're at home in a dome.
8:02They have played at the fastest rate in the NFL so far this year.
8:07It's only a three point spread like there is a lot to like about Tyler Shuck.
8:12And I think you're right that like the Raiders can probably keep this game close, especially if Brock Bowers is available.
8:19And again, it's not, you know, the chalkiest quarterback at 15 percent ownership.
8:24It's that nine percent ownership because that is because I think that there are a lot of like pretty good quarterback plays on the slate.
8:32So they don't separate by by that much to me from some of the other quarterback plays.
8:38But there are just there's so many good ones.
8:41I have no real issue with Tyler Shuck being nine percent for the reasons that you've said.
8:47It has not been the best matchup so far.
8:50We have I know you you're a big proponent of not paying a ton of attention to defensive metrics this early in
8:57the year, which I think is probably wise. But so far on the year, I mean, the the Raiders have allowed 24th most fantasy points per game.
9:06They're tied for 21st most most per drop back.
9:09And then in terms of EPA per pass allowed, they're 22nd out of 32.
9:14So it's been, you know, kind of a tough matchup so far.
9:18But I mean, if the Saints are going to play at the same pace going forward that they've played at so far
9:25and at home in the in the dome, I think.
9:29Yeah, tough, tough to argue with Shuck, Josh Allen.
9:32I mean, I think all you need for for Josh Allen to go off is the Chargers to put up some kind of a fight.
9:40So I think if I if I go to Josh Allen, I'll probably want a bring back from the Chargers, which I
9:47think a lot of people aren't going to want to play anybody from the Chargers with the way they've looked so far.
9:55And I think I agree with you that Mahomes kind of the third on this list for me just because, you know, they're playing Miami.
10:03They did come back to their chucking it ways in terms of pass rate over expectation after they were, you know, bottom half the league in week one.
10:13They were back up towards the top in week two in terms of pass rate over expectation.
10:18But I don't know if they're going to do that against Miami when they have Kenneth Walker and Emmitt Johnson.
10:25So, yeah, less less excited about Mahomes. Yeah, we can talk about the pass catchers, I guess, when we move on to wide receivers and tight ends.
10:34But let's let's start getting into our favorite plays at quarterback outside of those top three.
10:39And, you know, we're pretty in on at least two of the three and I'll probably have some of all three.
10:47But let's let's talk about some of the other top quarterback plays on the slate.
10:52And I think at this point, I mean, there's so many strong options.
10:56I guess I'll let me let me try one.
10:59Yes, I guess just just for the fun of it.
11:02Let me let me try and see if I can find a name that I think you're going to love.
11:09I feel like I mean, we went to Trevor Lawrence last week and I know you're going to love Parker Washington.
11:16So I'm just going to guess that Trevor Lawrence is on your list again.
11:21Yeah, he works is what I'd say. Parker Washington is right now projecting to be the highest owned wide receiver on the slate.
11:28I think that is well earned. That's well deserved based on the role.
11:33I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But yeah, playing him with Lawrence, I think is a nice way to differentiate
11:40a little bit there, especially because there's kind of nobody else on this Jaguars team that I want to stack with Lawrence.
11:48It just kind of makes the skinny stack easy.
11:51But I don't know. It's not probably my favorite game environment.
11:54It's like very hard to extract anything out of the Patriots.
11:58They are just this incredibly spread out offense without A.J.
12:01Brown. I have like play volume concerns here. These have been two of the slower paced teams in the NFL so far this year.
12:09It seems to be kind of what the Patriots want to do when May is struggling.
12:15So, yeah, I'm not like as excited about it.
12:18But hey, Lawrence still leads all quarterbacks in DraftKings points per game over his last 10.
12:23And he's been balling out basically every turn aside from last week against the Broncos on the road, which I know I
12:31was sitting here saying I don't care about the matchup.
12:34He's already smoked the Broncos before. But like, yeah, if the field is going to get somewhat off of Trevor Lawrence because
12:41of that, I think that's decent to just add him into my Parker Washington teams.
12:46But I'm almost thinking of it more like that rather than the other way around.
12:51Yeah, I think that's that's a fair, fair way to play that one.
12:56I do see a couple names on the screen here that I want your opinion on because we're going to Brazil with the Baltimore Dallas game.
13:05And the field conditions are pretty iffy. The team seems concerned about it.
13:09And this is always something that is going to, you know, it's a game environment that I know we're going to love playing Lamar Jackson against Dallas.
13:18Like that's just a given Lamar Jackson should crush against Dallas.
13:22So we're throwing a variable in there with kind of questionable field conditions.
13:26And I'd like to hear your approach to that.
13:29I mean, both these quarterbacks just at 6% could be fireworks, could be kind of a gross game because of the field conditions.
13:37What are you doing with the Baltimore Dallas game?
13:40I think you can argue the field conditions almost either way where it's like, yeah, if players can't get a solid footing
13:47or pivot in the same way that they would on a turf field, a normal field in the United States, then maybe that's defenders falling down.
13:56Maybe that maybe that's players on the offense falling down.
13:59Like I try not to like read into it or think about it that much.
14:04I think the total, the point total is going to encapsulate this fairly well to me, which is it's the highest over under game on the slate.
14:13And I think rightfully so. Every Cowboys game just turns into a shootout.
14:18Dak played amazingly last week. He's priced up now, but that's going to keep the ownership down.
14:23I think it makes sense to go there with Lamar.
14:27I just, I have a little trouble getting to him on a slate where Josh Allen is $500 more and Allen has
14:34been just better so far this year, has shown like the higher bury you upside if I'm paying up at quarterback.
14:41But yeah, I mean, to your point, the Cowboys have allowed the most scramble yards per game, top two and scramble yards
14:49per carry to opposing quarterbacks since the start of last season.
14:52We could see Jackson have a little bit more rushing upside than he might normally in this spot.
14:58So I get it. But yeah, ultimately, there's a lot of quarterbacks I really like.
15:03I don't know that if I'm paying up that Lamar is going to be the name I'm clicking.
15:09I think Dak is a bit better just because of, yeah, just because the price has come up on him.
15:16The ownership is going to stay down. It's always just and this was wrong last week, like Dak nuked.
15:23But I'm mainly afraid to play Dak when the ownership is higher on him because there's just not that many ways to stack him.
15:31It always feels optimal to go Dak CD Pickens.
15:34And it's like hard to get off of that necessarily.
15:37But yeah, when the combined ownership isn't going to be too big, I think Dak is pretty nice.
15:43Does a flowers availability affect your interest in Lamar Jackson at all?
15:47Or is it kind of going to stay the same because he is too close in price to Josh Allen?
15:54Yeah, I think even if they plays, it's maybe that's like the spot I'm most thinking about the field conditions is he's coming off a hamstring injury.
16:03Will they even want to risk him on poor field conditions?
16:07Maybe not. If they do, is that going to increase the potential for re-injury?
16:11I don't know. I'm not a doctor, but I think that's like an angle worth thinking about.
16:17So yeah, I don't know. I don't know that Zay super factors in here.
16:22Of course, it would be nice to have him for the Ravens offense.
16:26But yeah, I don't think it's I don't think it's going to get me more onto them or more interested if he is active.
16:34Brock Purdy also at 6% ownership. And, you know, Brock Purdy, one of the best fantasy quarterbacks in the game.
16:41He has the rushing upside, the electric offense, but they're huge favorites against Arizona.
16:46So don't know how much he's going to be throwing it.
16:49And he is 6,500. So the price is up there as well.
16:53What are we doing with Brock Purdy? Yeah, I mean, second highest implied total on the slate.
16:59He's been great. Even in some of these spots where the 49ers can run the score up 22.7 DraftKings points over his last 10 games.
17:07That's a top three mark on the slate. So he's I don't know.
17:12I feel like I'm having trouble taking hard stances on a lot of these quarterbacks this week.
17:17I think a lot of them just are good plays.
17:21There aren't a lot of great plays. I'd say I think Purdy's like a good play.
17:26I think that that is fair. Like, I think this is that that is my approach this late.
17:32Also, as I'm doing my write up, I'm like, man, I just there's a lot of plays that I'm like, yeah, I
17:40think this is a pretty strong one. Not that many.
17:43There are there are some spots that I can completely X out.
17:47But but there's a lot of players that I that I want to play some which kind of limits the oh, this
17:54is the guy that I really want to take a big stand on because I think there's just so many good plays.
18:02Can you can you find a DTR UX in either of Jared Goff or Gino Smith out or do you think that's
18:09just going to be a game that is worth playing both sides?
18:13No, I think it is worth playing both sides.
18:16I think you always have to be somewhat interested in Jared Goff when he's a home favorite.
18:22He's just a top three quarterback in those spots.
18:25And that's what we're getting from him this week.
18:28Gino, I guess I guess I'm slightly less interested in Gino.
18:32The argument to play him would be that the Jets have barely been trailing for any snaps this year, which is insane.
18:39And that's kind of, you know, kept the pass rate down.
18:43But Gino is very cheap. He's yeah, forty nine hundred.
18:46Incredibly easy to stack or well, maybe not because I think Garrett Wilson is a good stacking partner.
18:52I was excited about A.D. Mitchell and his matchup here with the Lions being this deep funnel defense that are top three
19:00and yards per game allowed on the deep ball, which is just an amazing note for A.D.
19:05Mitchell, of course, and for Gino stacks, et cetera.
19:08Right. A.D. Mitchell leading the team in air yards is slightly ahead of Garrett Wilson, even in XFP per game usage so far this year.
19:17But the A.D. Mitchell, the guy that can't catch the most like notorious wide receiver for dropping the ball, for throwing it
19:24out the back of the end zone and getting traded because of it is going to.
19:29Is he going to be playing with like this giant glove thing on his hand?
19:34That's what he was doing at practice on Thursday and Friday, picked up a finger injury.
19:40Like I'm supposed to play A.D. Mitchell when he has it when he has a hand injury, when he can't when he can't catch like that.
19:49That sounds like an awful idea. So I don't know that like really the A.D.
19:54Mitchell availability and the injury there is is like factoring pretty big into how I'm thinking about the Jets and Jet stacks.
20:01I think it becomes it what I think what's annoying is he's going to play and we're not really going to know
20:08how like how healthy his hands are. So it just makes it a really tough spot if he was either clearly in
20:16or clearly out like it would condense things. It would make it easier.
20:20But yeah, the Jets just like annoy me this week for that reason, basically.
20:25I mean, that was like me with Lad McConkie last week, just like having players like maybe in and if they play, they're probably going to be limited.
20:34And just like, I don't know what to do.
20:37Like it really messes up the situation there. Makes it a lot less clean.
20:42If I mean, if A.D. Mitchell sits, then maybe it does become a bit more clean because then you just know I
20:49want to stack with at least Garrett Wilson and then maybe throw in a Brees Hall or Kenyon Sadiq or something.
20:56But yeah, it's a little bit tough to know what to do there.
21:01Yeah. And I mean, the fact that they have not been trailing at all kind of makes me think that they're going to throw more, right?
21:10Like if they are trailing because they're playing against the Lions, you'd think that they're going to be trailing, in which case
21:17they should throw the ball more theoretically. Yeah. So I have some interest in Geno Smith, but also it's Geno Smith.
21:24So you can't really don't want to go overboard there.
21:27What else? What other quarterbacks are you targeting? Can we can we talk about Jameis Winston, Neil?
21:33I mean, he's been priced. Yeah. Let's talk about Jameis Winston.
21:37What are we doing with with Jameis Winston at 4000 against Tennessee?
21:41Is this the game environment you want to be targeting Jameis Winston?
21:45Are you just throwing him in there naked because he's been priced and you can just play whoever you want?
21:51What what's your approach to Jameis? So there's a lot of really amazing pay up options on this slate.
21:58I want to say first, like Jameer Gibbs, you have to pay up to eighty eight hundred.
22:04All of the kind of top wide receivers project fairly well.
22:07There's like a lot of guys that you'd love to pay up for.
22:12So, yeah, Jameis at the Stoneman at 4K is pretty tempting to me.
22:16I think the big issue is weather, which we don't know about yet as we're recording this.
22:22But there is a big nor'easter expected to hit the northeastern United States this weekend.
22:27We'll have to see what the rain and the wind is like on Sunday morning.
22:32So I'm not going to fully commit to this play yet.
22:35But yeah, Jameis, when he's played above a 90 percent snap share the last three seasons, yeah, is up at 22 DraftKings fantasy points per game.
22:44That's that's pretty good. He leads the NFL over that split in passing yards per game, catchable air yards per game.
22:51He just he just drops back a ton and he forces it downfield.
22:56What do you want me to say? It's Jameis Winston.
22:59I understand he looked absolutely cooked and awful on Monday Night Football, but that's like nothing new for Jameis Winston to me.
23:06That's like almost part of the package and part of the appeal is there are going to be a few awful interceptions
23:14that are going to set up good field position for the opposing offense.
23:18But that's like part of the experience. That's what creates all of this drop back volume, all of these catchable air yards.
23:26So I do think like weather cooperating. I want to I want to have min price Jameis Winston at three percent projected ownership.
23:33That sounds like something I would like to sign up for.
23:37In terms of do you play him naked? I think you can just because he's min price.
23:43But I think we have a pretty a couple pretty good stacking options.
23:47Probably one I would say that's really good. We can talk about them later.
23:52But yeah, he he's someone I have legit interest in.
23:55Yeah. Weather permitting. Yeah. I'm a big proponent of stacking in general.
23:59I do agree with you, though, that like he is an example of something you could play without a stacking partner, in
24:06part because his best stacking partners, I guess, we'll see if you agree with me on who the best are.
24:13But they're kind of expensive, like they're sort of pay up options.
24:17So he could get there with, you know, 16 fantasy points without necessarily anybody else, you know, paying off their salary because
24:25they are somewhat priced up, not like super expensive, but somewhat priced up.
24:29So I think Jameis at two percent now is what we're showing.
24:33Seems pretty good at the min price. I, you know, before seeing any projections, my assumption was that he was going to
24:40be like the cash quarterback just based on like point per dollar.
24:44And that does not appear to be the case.
24:47Looking at me, you see here, fantasy points per dollar.
24:51He's number four on the list. He's not even that high up on the list, which kind of is going to suppress ownership on Jameis.
24:59So, yeah, he's pretty interesting. What else do we have?
25:03I mean, I see Kyler is back. We have him second in terms of fantasy points per dollar.
25:09Are you going there? Are you going to I mean, Bryce Young has been absolutely smoking.
25:14Who are you more open ended? Who do you like of the remaining quarterbacks we haven't talked about?
25:20Those are probably the next two names I was going to bring up.
25:24So we can probably just talk about them and then move on to running back.
25:29Kyler, I want to like he was one of my kind of late round quarterback stands coming into the year.
25:36We didn't really get to see what would happen in week one.
25:40All that basically happened was he threw an interception on the first drive and then got knocked out with a concussion not long after.
25:48So, yeah, just from the the same thesis that I feel like I've talked up on the show already, just the Kevin
25:56O'Connell quarterback cheat code where almost everybody other than J.J.
25:59McCarthy has been able to average between 18 to 20 DraftKings points per game every single time.
26:05Yeah, that's fair enough for Kyler when he's priced this low.
26:08I think I have game environment concerns here. Both of the Vikings and Bucks have been playing slower this year.
26:15So I am a little worried that it's gross in that sense.
26:19Kyler's been absolutely awful against the Blitz. Todd Bowles always one of the top Blitz rate defenses.
26:25Kyler by fantasy points per drop back against the Blitz ranks 42nd of 45 qualifying quarterbacks over the past three years.
26:32So that's pretty rough. He actually scrambles even less against it as well.
26:36So I think that schematic note might kind of keep me off of him some.
26:41Bryce, I'm more interested in. That's partially because he legitimately is playing way better than he ever has to this point in his career.
26:49The Panthers have been much more aggressive, both in attacking downfield and just in throwing the ball in general.
26:56They are top five in pass rate over expectation.
26:59You're the top in seconds per play as well.
27:02One of the faster paced teams now after they were near the bottom of the league in those categories last season.
27:09So they have a new play caller, Brad Idzik.
27:12So there's a chance that that is kind of his touch after he's taken over from Dave Canales and that that continues
27:19here in this spot against the Browns. And I really think that the fact that the Panthers continued to really push the
27:27issue against the Falcons when they were benching Cooper Rush and playing Jack Strand in the second half and being like last
27:34year's Panthers are giving 30 touches to Chuba Hubbard in that game.
27:38And that's not what we saw in week two.
27:41So I think that is pretty legit fun to play Bryce Young doubles.
27:45Both of his receivers project pretty well. We might get to them later, too.
27:50So, yeah, I have probably more interest in Bryce than a Kyler, than a Purdy, even a lot of these guys we've talked up.
27:58But I think Bryce is pretty, pretty interesting. Yeah, we've seen teams have success against Cleveland so far through the air this year.
28:06So it definitely, definitely seems interesting to me, especially it sounds like Jalen Coker is more likely than not to play this
28:13week so we can do fun things with the Panthers once again.
28:17All right, let's move on to running backs and start poking some holes or deciding that we're going to play the chalk at running back.
28:26So at the top of the board, we've got some chalk.
28:29We have Jameer Gibbs at 27%, Kenneth Walker 25%, Jalen Warren 19% without Rico Daudo there.
28:35Let's start with those three. Are you playing these three at or above the field?
28:40Are you fading any big time? What do you think of Gibbs, Walker, and Jalen Warren?
28:45It's going to be hard to do better than Jameer Gibbs on this slate.
28:50It's just an amazing spot for him. He averages close to 32 DraftKings fantasy points per game in wins going back to last season.
28:58Six and a half point favorites the Lions are here.
29:01The Jets are a top two matchup for opposing running backs by fantasy points per game allowed over the same span.
29:08It's really just does your lineup allow you to pay up to Jameer Gibbs is like the only question worth asking to me.
29:16I don't see any sort of usage or matchup based reason to fade him on.
29:21Honestly, yeah, if 27% feels light, I understand it's because of the price and just the way that you can actually get him into lineups.
29:30But I think it's worth trying to for sure building around that, building around Jameis.
29:35So I like Gibbs. Walker, the only hole I can really poke.
29:39And I don't know that I even want to poke this hole because it feels a little ridiculous.
29:45But the Chiefs are massive favorites against the Dolphins.
29:48There is definitely a world where Walker gets no touches in the fourth quarter.
29:52That was what we saw with Christian McCaffrey against the Dolphins last week.
29:57He played only one snap in the fourth quarter, didn't really nuke despite amazing usage through three.
30:02We could pretty easily see that with Walker. The Chiefs absolutely slam the Dolphins out of the stadium like everybody expects them to.
30:10But I mean, it may not matter. Walker is an insanely explosive player.
30:15He can break a slate in three quarters. One hundred percent.
30:18I believe in him to do that. Dolphins are allowing the most yards after contact per attempt to opposing running backs.
30:25Since the start of last year, Walker currently leading all running backs in total yards after contact with 189.
30:32That's 80 more than the next closest running back, which is Derrick Henry.
30:36So just, yeah, total smash spot for Walker. Twenty five percent feels light to me.
30:41I'm going to say that about all. These are just amazing running back plays is kind of where we're at.
30:48I think Jalen Warren certainly I think is maybe where the should you fade conversation starts.
30:53I expect the role to be really strong. I had a one hundred percent snap share in the fourth quarter after Rico Dowdle left last week.
31:02Dowdle is confirmed out for this game. It's kind of hard to give work to Travis Homer or to Eli Heidenreich in terms of creating a projection.
31:11So, yeah, Warren projects as our top point per dollar value.
31:15It's probably not a great rushing matchup necessarily, but through the air in terms of the amount of checkdowns Jalen Warren could be catching from Aaron Rodgers.
31:24I think that's how you kind of talk yourself into the play.
31:28The Bengals really just funnel everything underneath second most receiving yards per game allowed within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.
31:35So I think you're really with Warren just betting on passing volume.
31:39Bengals also most fantasy points per game allowed through the air to running backs over the same span.
31:45So that's like strong enough to me. But I mean, also, if he's going to be 19 percent and if I'm like
31:53looking for a chalkier running back to poke holes in, it's probably him just because I'm a big Jalen Warren believer.
32:00I like Jalen Warren. I have thought that he should be given a bell cow workload for years.
32:06But but coaches haven't really done that despite a lot of chances.
32:10They might just be forced to this week. But I think like clearly the the explosiveness, the talent based upside, just this
32:17offense being extremely disappointing through two weeks overall is like enough reason to maybe try to.
32:23Yeah, try to pull back a little bit on Warren if you're and I think we'll get to them.
32:29But there are a couple of value running backs that I think are also intriguing pivots kind of in that price range.
32:36Yeah, there are similar to quarterback. Honestly, there's a lot of running back plays that I kind of like and I really
32:44do like all three at the top. Like I think Jalen Warren to me is is really good chalk at his price.
32:51But like you said, there are some other really good cheap options as well that we can get to in terms of the chalky plays.
32:59And we have a number more on the screen that look pretty good here.
33:04We've got, you know, Derek Henry has been scoring touchdowns every week.
33:08Ashton Gentry, the volume remains there. Didn't really get there last week, but the volume is still really good natural bring back
33:16if you want to play some Tyler Shuck stacks.
33:19And then Christian McCaffrey in a game where the Niners are big favorites.
33:23Last week, you know, I I speculated. Actually, I don't even know if I didn't on this show.
33:29I don't think because it was after we finished this show that I got a DM from Scott Barrett saying, hey, Caitlin Black is a Neil last play.
33:38And I was like, oh, you're right. Caitlin Black is a Neil last play.
33:43So I started going there a little bit after this show, but Christian McCaffrey ended up just being the guy that even even late in the game.
33:52They were scoring the short touchdowns with Christian McCaffrey.
33:55So he looks like he has a pretty locked and loaded role still, even with Caitlin Black, Caitlin Black mixing in a bit.
34:03Are you are you? I mean, and James Cook, you know, potential leverage on people wanting to go to the Buffalo passing game.
34:11What what are you doing with these other? We've got more expensive quarter running backs that are getting some ownership here.
34:18You can throw Jonathan Taylor in that mix as well and kind of a tough matchup.
34:23But he's Jonathan Taylor. Are you are you going to these other expensive running backs or are you just kind of leaning into Gibbs and Walker?
34:32I think my favorite is Ashton Jenty very clearly.
34:35What I talked about it a little bit when we brought up Tyler Shuck.
34:40But I just think this Raiders offense is being extremely underrated there.
34:44They're top two in EPA per play and success rate from 12 personnel without having Brock Bowers.
34:49How much do you think their 12 personnel efficiency is going to improve when they get to add one of the best
34:57tight ends in the league to their offense? I think by a lot.
35:01And that that's not just like a drop back formation very often for them.
35:06That's a running game formation. So Jenty, I think, is an amazing play.
35:10He led all running backs and expected fantasy points last week over 30.
35:14It's just been an amazing every down bell cow workload for Jenty.
35:19I really the only complaint you can make is last last week he had three drops.
35:24But hey, that is those aren't sticky that he didn't have drop rate issues at all as a rookie.
35:30I have like no concerns that that's going to continue to follow him.
35:35So yeah, just another giant workload for Jenty and you get him at both a price and ownership discount relative to Jameer Gibbs, Ken Walker.
35:43And again, in a game that I think we could see a lot of plays run.
35:48Yeah, that's pretty strong to me. He's kind of my favorite running back play in this range.
35:54I think everyone else you mentioned also has merit.
35:57I think I prefer McCaffrey if you're going to play Trey McBride as the bring back, just saying that this game will
36:05stay a little bit closer and playing to that angle or McCaffrey like within a 49er stack.
36:10Just because, like, yes, he scored the short yardage touchdown at the end of the third quarter.
36:16But then, yeah, he only played one snap in the fourth.
36:20Still over 20 expected fantasy points through three quarters.
36:23He can absolutely nuke. Even if the even if the game isn't close, he could totally do enough in three quarters.
36:30But it's I think it's fair to dock him a little relative to some of these other amazing plays when we have
36:37so many options to go to for that. Yeah, I don't know.
36:41Derek Henry and James Cook is the same take every week.
36:45You can play them as leverage off of their passing games.
36:49I think if I were to pick a favorite this week, it would probably be Cook between the two of them just
36:56because he has seen a much better role in the passing game this year.
37:01The route shares come way up. The target share has come up some.
37:05It's a too high, heavy schematic matchup against the Chargers, and we see that increase the targets per out run of running backs.
37:13It's a little uncertain because Ty Johnson is likely back this week, and he was the one that had kind of been taking away routes beforehand.
37:21But going into the season, it sounded like the Bills wanted Cook more involved in that way.
37:27So I think even of course, he's great if the Bills just slam them out of the stadium.
37:33Cook over 25 draft points per game in games that the Bills win by a touchdown or more since last year.
37:40But I think even if this is like a more competitive shootout type of game, then Cook has like some intrigue to me as well.
37:49But yeah, I think of them, Gentie is like clearly the favorite.
37:53Yeah, I think Gentie just looks like a really strong option once again, even as the price tag, as we speculated, has continued to rise.
38:01I think it will continue to rise even more, especially if he does what we think he should this week.
38:08But still, yeah, it looks like a very strong option.
38:11Then as we move down the list, I mean, we talked about Carolina, how they have been throwing a lot more with the new offensive coordinator.
38:20And I mean, part of the reason I loved the Carolina backfield during best ball season is that historically they have run quite a bit.
38:28It's been Dave Canales saying, can't wait to prove how much they're going to run it down people's throats.
38:35And they've kind of lived up to that in the past.
38:38And now they're throwing so much. But with Jonathan Brooks out, I think Chuba Hubbard just even more so is just going to get the full workload here.
38:48Is it enough that you want to be playing some Chuba at 6,100 against Cleveland?
38:53Or are you just sticking with the passing game there?
38:56I prefer the passing game. But yeah, Chuba is pretty strong for the reasons that you just laid out.
39:03Not a lot to add there, but I think it makes sense to go there if you're looking for alternatives off of
39:10Jalen Warren as a pay down option at the position for sure.
39:14Aaron Jones was 5,100 last week. I loved it.
39:17He got great workload and barely cracked 100 yards.
39:20So, you know, kind of lucked out to get the 100 yard bonus.
39:24Now he's up to 5,900. And we've seen that he got the workload on the ground, but they didn't really throw to Aaron Jones.
39:32Now he's up to 5,900. Do you have any interest there?
39:36Or is the lack of passing game involvement going to keep your interest low?
39:41I mean, he had an 80% snap share despite having a knee injury during the game and he returned from it.
39:48The usage was really, really encouraging to me in terms of backfield XFP share.
39:53He had one of the highest marks of the week.
39:56It really just was, of course, not popping in the box score because it was a really gross, ugly game.
40:03I believe no plays run from inside the 10 yard line.
40:06So I came into the week thinking that he would be kind of sneaky.
40:11And I think that just has happened because we were unsure about his health status for a lot of the week up to now.
40:19But yeah, now showing it 10%, that is a worthy pivot off of Jalen Warren to me as well.
40:25I mentioned I'm worried about the play volume in this game, but I think even with that in mind, Aaron Jones would
40:33be the best play or the best way to take advantage of that, even if it's kind of gross.
40:39And the Buccaneers are a running back target funnel.
40:42They have their top three in targets receiving yards per game allowed two running backs.
40:47So I think that's enough to me to have some interest.
40:51When you say that Aaron Jones is the way to play it, do you mean for both sides of the game or just for the Vikings?
41:00Because we've got Bucky Irving on the other side with pretty strong workload.
41:04Do you have interest there as well? Probably less than I have in Jones.
41:09Bucky is going to pop eventually one of these games.
41:12Where I worry about from him is just the overall offense against this Ryan Flores defense.
41:18A lot of Baker Mayfield splits against pressure and the Blitz are a little bit rough.
41:23Mayfield has not been playing very well the last couple of weeks.
41:27Of course, Buccaneers, one of the worst turnover margins in the NFL.
41:31They're bottom five in EPA per drop back. They are top five in EPA per rush.
41:36So maybe there's an angle here where they look and say, hey, our only chance of competing here is to lean into the run.
41:44The offensive line is playing really well. Bucky's playing really well.
41:48The workload's been great. I could see it, but I don't know if I fully get there.
41:54I think Aaron Jones, Chuba Hubbard are probably in a bit better of spots.
41:59But I don't know. I'll be kicking myself if this is Bucky week after I've shilled out for him the last couple of weeks.
42:07Yeah, I mean, Vikings just have kind of a tough defense.
42:10So I think that makes sense to maybe get a little bit lower there.
42:15I mean, we talked about the Jets game. We talked about potentially playing some Geno.
42:20Would you include Brees Hall in some Geno stacks or just as, you know, a one-off in some other lineups?
42:27Do you like Brees Hall at all? He concerns me a little bit because, and this is weird and this, like, should
42:34not be happening if I were coaching the New York Jets.
42:38But we've seen Braylon Allen playing a lot of third downs.
42:42And we've seen the Jets, as I mentioned earlier, almost exclusively in neutral or leading game scripts, right?
42:48They've only trailed on 5% of their snaps. Hall is top 12 in expected fantasy points per game among running backs.
42:55But that's a lot easier to do when you aren't in these trailing game scripts.
43:00He's seen basically the same workload as Bucky Irving.
43:03But he, if you count the plays called back, he's getting vultured by Braylon Allen at the goal line a little bit more.
43:10He's not, yeah, in terms of adjusting for team plays for game script, it's not quite as impressive as Irving to me.
43:18So I think if you were playing Geno and wanted a piece of a double stack, Hall would be fine.
43:24Just to bet on, like, Geno, Garrett, Brees Hall.
43:28But outside of that, I don't think I'm that interested.
43:31I'm just mostly not sure what the usage will look like in a trailing game script.
43:36Yeah, I mean, of course, it should be Brees Hall playing 85% of the snaps and being one of the top targets
43:44on the team and getting everything around the line of scrimmage if it was me making the decisions.
43:50But I don't know. I'm extremely bitter at the Jets coaching staff and have been for the past several years with Brees Hall.
43:57I mean, they're not great. They're not using their stars quite to the extent that we would like them to.
44:04Let me just open it up to you because I've got some other names that I have some interest in that I could throw at you.
44:13But I want to know if you have any other big favorites at running back that we haven't talked about yet.
44:20One name I'll bring up. And then I want to ask you about a name, Neil, once I'm done talking about mine.
44:27Quinchan Judkins is intriguing to me. He's all the way down at 5,500.
44:32The thing with Judkins is, yes, the efficiency has been awful.
44:35He's been at 2.3 yards per carry so far this year.
44:39Hasn't really been efficient on this Browns team really since October of his rookie season.
44:44It's been extremely rough sailing. But yeah, he's priced down.
44:47He's cheaper than all these running backs that we have talked about.
44:51Gets a matchup against the Panthers who have allowed the most rushing fantasy points per game to opposing running backs going back to the start of last season.
45:01We have seen Judkins' receiving role actually come up over the last four weeks.
45:06His last four games played, so going back to the final two of last season.
45:11In those four games, those have been his four highest route participation rates in his entire career.
45:16The target share in that span has come up to 14.5%.
45:20That would have ranked top six among all running backs last year.
45:24Up from just 6% in all his previous games.
45:27So the reason this is happening is because Dylan Sampson has not been playing for most of this span.
45:33He played like a couple of snaps in week one and then immediately left with an injury.
45:39Has not played in any of those other games I mentioned.
45:43So we can see the workload increasing. It hasn't necessarily mattered for fantasy because the Browns have been a complete joke of an offense throughout all of this.
45:52But this might be the spot. It's a close enough spread.
45:56As I mentioned, it's a great rushing matchup. We saw DeAndre Swift and Kyle Monongai absolutely run all over the Panthers in week one.
46:04Yeah, for 7%, 5,500 on a slate where we want to save salary.
46:08I think that's pretty interesting to me. Just giving a little less game script sensitivity.
46:13Possibly just one of the better rushing matchups. That's pretty fun.
46:17I don't know. What do you think? And you tell me what you think and then I'll ask you about the guy I want to ask you about.
46:27Yeah, I listed Quinchon Judkins as he'll be in my player pool in a 150 set.
46:32Not a target for me if I'm only playing 20 lineups.
46:36Just because we have so many strong running back plays.
46:39So there is opportunity cost in playing him. But like I said, I agree with you.
46:44This is the spot to play him because the Panthers have been pretty bad against running backs because he's been more involved in the passing game.
46:53And it's also like a game at home, like you said, with a close spread.
46:58So if it's ever going to hit, he's got enough volume that if they can keep it close, they should run enough
47:05and he should be a strong play. So I'm with you on Quinchon Judkins being playable in large field tournaments.
47:12Awesome. So the guy I wanted to ask you about, Neil, is, and this is the most Neil-ass play that I could come up with this week.
47:21Emmitt Johnson. Are we playing Emmitt Johnson in a game script where the Chiefs could be leading by 30 points in the fourth quarter?
47:29Andy Reid talked about getting more snaps for Emmitt Johnson this week.
47:33He has played out of his mind. It's like him and Ken Walker is the top two in every running back efficiency metric.
47:41Why not for Emmitt Johnson? I love it. Yeah, that is a great Neil-ass play.
47:46And then I wrote up the Chiefs. Similar to last week, I wrote up the Chiefs.
47:51I did not include Emmitt Johnson in my initial write-up.
47:55But you're absolutely right that that is very much a Neil-ass play.
47:59Just they're, what, double? I mean, double-digit favorites, even in Miami.
48:03They're trying to get him more involved anyway. They're probably looking for ways to save Kenneth Walker's legs a little bit after,
48:10especially week one, that crazy high usage. Chiefs could absolutely roll here.
48:14And if they do, yeah, it would make a lot of sense for them to lean on Emmitt Johnson more this week.
48:21And I don't think we have anybody else lower in price than Emmitt Johnson that we're excited to play.
48:28So yeah, no, I love that call. Obviously not in 20.
48:31Like if you're playing 20 lineups, I'm probably not targeting Emmitt Johnson.
48:35But in a 150 set, I think he does make some sense to mix in there with some, you know, if you're
48:43trying to get to some chalkier spend-ups, some stacks where you're paying up a little bit, I think he makes some sense in large field GPPs.
48:52Love it. Love to see. I mean, Scott just posted this week the meme of you becoming the sensei.
48:58And now I feel like you're doing the same thing to me.
49:02Just throwing my plays at me. So I'm not at all because I was in our projections meeting behind the scenes look
49:09with Scott earlier today and Emmitt Johnson came up.
49:12And I think he said first, like, Neil's going to bring up Emmitt Johnson.
49:17I'm like, I was thinking the same thing. I will tell him you said this and that it's a Neil-ass play.
49:24Yeah, I didn't think I would have to give you the name, Neil.
49:29I was expecting you to bring it up. I'm disappointed in myself, frankly, that Scott's coming up with, and they've been like
49:36great Neil-ass plays too, like absolutely fit exactly the type of play that I love to play in Millie Maker type settings.
49:43That's really funny. Yeah, I think that's good at running back unless you had anyone else you wanted to ask me about.
49:51But yeah, there's just so there's so many good plays at the top.
49:55It's like really hard to get super crazy different, I think.
49:59Yeah. So let me just throw one name at you because we've seen two games from him.
50:04He crushed in one of them and then was terrible in the second game.
50:09Now David Montgomery coming in at 2% ownership at 6,000 in a matchup with the Colts that I think Houston could just
50:17absolutely like the Colts have a really bad defense.
50:20So I think Montgomery could have success here. I think he's going to be very hit or miss week to week.
50:27But like if you tell me that Dave Montgomery has three touchdowns in this game, like he did week one, obviously he's not it's not likely to happen.
50:36But like seems like this is a spot where he could do it.
50:40So I'm like sort of interested in David Montgomery at 2% ownership against the Colts.
50:45Do you do is that too crazy for you?
50:48I don't think it's crazy. He wasn't on my list.
50:52But to your point about him being kind of volatile, the Texans are doing this really weird and annoying thing with their running back usage this year.
51:01I had completely missed it after week one, but it was very apparent after after week two, rather than playing Montgomery and Woody Marks in different situations.
51:10So you would think, OK, David Montgomery should be the primary runner, probably the goal line back, right?
51:16Like typical David Montgomery roles. Woody Marks a bit better of a receiving back.
51:21That's not at all how they've deployed them so far this year.
51:25In week two, they play they alternated drives so they would each have a drive to themselves and each of them just
51:32played a 100% running back snap share on their specific drives.
51:36So rather than rotating these guys in and putting Monty in at the goal line, what they've just done is said, hey,
51:43Montgomery is going to play 60% of the drives or two thirds of the drives.
51:48But if those are the drives that don't get to the end zone, he is SOL.
51:54Like he's not going to get the high value touches.
51:57He's not coming on at the goal line for Woody Marks.
52:01If his drives happen to be the ones that advance down the field, that was what we saw in week two.
52:08It just happened to be all of Marks' drives that the Texans actually were able to move the ball.
52:14I kind of like that. I kind of like that.
52:17It was the exact opposite in week one. Of course, it just happened that Monty was in when the Texans made it to the goal line.
52:26And yeah, that happens again. I could see another multi-touchdown game when everybody's kind of off of it and thinking that this backfield sucks.
52:34I do think the backfield sucks. This is super annoying for fantasy.
52:38It makes it very unpredictable. But yeah, I can see the appeal there if you're in like a 150 set of lineups
52:46and getting some David Montgomery exposure because of that.
52:49As a Montgomery best ball ball, I kind of hate that because he was obviously the more expensive than Woody Marks.
52:56And the reason that I was a ball was the coach speak being like, he's going to elevate the whole offense.
53:03They made it sound like they're going to give him 25 touches a game.
53:08And that's clearly not in the cards. But week to week, you know, that could certainly work out in DFS.
53:14So at 2%, yeah, I'm pretty into it for large field DFS tournaments.
53:19But we can move on to wide receivers. And we'll again start looking at the top.
53:24And we've already talked about Parker Washington a bit.
53:27He is the highest ownership on the slate. Is this, I know you're a Parker Washington fan, but is 19% too high for you?
53:35I don't know if there's such a thing as too high for me with Parker Washington.
53:40He was one yard away. He went down at the one yard line, one yard away from over 22 DraftKings points.
53:47Last week, he was just like one more yard away from the bonus.
53:52So very easily could have had another massive game.
53:55The usage has been awesome. He is still top 12 among all players in XFP per team play, which is extremely impressive for a wide receiver.
54:04That list is mostly like CeeDee Lamb, JSN and Bell Cow running backs.
54:08And then it's Parker Washington there in the top 12.
54:11So that's really bullish. He's led the team in targets over each of his last six games.
54:17Yeah, I don't know. I guess finally we've all come around to Parker Washington and accepted him.
54:23And now he has ownership and he's priced at 6K.
54:26But like I'm going to keep playing him. I don't see a reason not to.
54:31The role is too good. The Liam Cohen slot cheat code is too good.
54:36Yeah, I don't know. I just repeat myself on Parker Washington every single week.
54:41But I'm not coming off of it because of ownership this week.
54:45Yeah, it seems like the ownership and the price are catching up.
54:49But like they're catching up kind of slowly. So you can still take advantage of it.
54:54His elite role. Because like this is what he should be.
54:58You know, $7,600 receiver, $8,000 receiver probably. And the ownership probably not catching up quite as much as it should.
55:04Now it is not like an ideal matchup with New England overall.
55:08But also we do have, you know, he's not going to be seeing Christian Gonzalez.
55:13So potentially does have a strong individual matchup because he's not going to see Christian Gonzalez as much.
55:20Should we pull up the wide receivers graphically? I know you had something that you wanted to show us regarding wide receivers in the data suite.
55:28So if Trae can pull that up for us, let's take a look at that.
55:33Yeah, so this is Data Suite 2.0, which you guys can get access to if you go to fantasypoints.com.
55:40Use promo code DFS for 10% off. Yeah, I just wanted to show everyone a quick tool, something that I do in the data suite to pull stats.
55:49So we are in the advanced receiving table here, which is a table that's returned from data suite 1.0.
55:55But as you might be able to tell, you can do some cool new stuff with it.
56:01So what I've done here is I have receiving yards per game with a depth of target of less than or equal
56:0910 to 10 yards here in the first column.
56:12I was able to move the columns around. This column normally would not be here right at the start of the table.
56:19I can add conditional formatting. So you get like the nice pretty rainbow to show which numbers are highest.
56:25And this is a saved snapshot from when I had the filters showing the depth of target under 10 yards, right?
56:32So that's what I've got here right next to it.
56:36Just to compare side by side, I have receiving yards per game of 20 or more yards downfield on those throws with
56:43a depth of target of 20 plus. I can sort by this as well.
56:48I can compare it side by side to the shallow throws.
56:52So when I say this team is an underneath funnel, this team is a deep funnel, I can just pull it up
56:59so easily in the data suite right here. And again, it's a saved snapshot.
57:04Here I can clear it. I'm not going to do that.
57:07But yeah, you can just right click on any column to save any sort of snapshot that keeps your filters even after you change them.
57:16So I can have these side by side here.
57:19I mentioned earlier in the show that the Lions have been a deep funnel.
57:23Yeah. And you can just see it right here.
57:26They're the most receiving yards per game allowed on the deep ball.
57:30And they are, if we sort here, they're towards the bottom within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.
57:37Yeah. Bottom five here as we scroll down. So that's just one kind of quick trick, fun little thing that you can do with data suite 2.0.
57:46Again, use promo code DFS for 10% off any package over at fantasypoints.com if you are interested in that.
57:52Love that. That's another, I mean, last week you showed us the on-off splits for different players.
57:58And I've been using that constantly after you showed that last week.
58:02So maybe this is something I'll be adding. I feel like with the data suite 2.0, every single week I'm going to
58:09be adding new things to my repertoire as far as like what am I going to look at for each individual game, each individual player.
58:18Yeah, there's just, there's so much there and it's really, really useful stuff.
58:22One team that I did not see towards the top there, unfortunately, in terms of allowing the deep throw is Detroit.
58:29And I bring that up because I was going to say, I want your opinion not only on Almanar St.
58:36Brown, but also Jamison Williams, who has not really gotten there yet, but the role has been, you know, fairly good for Jamo.
58:44So he's going to come in at lower ownership.
58:47So looking at Detroit, and again, it's not the best matchup if you're looking at, you know, depth of target beyond 20.
58:54But, you know, is this a week that we think Jamo could get there?
58:59What's your level of interest in the Detroit receivers?
59:02Yeah, as you said, just 27.5 receiving yards per game, 20 or more yards downfield.
59:07That's the lowest in the NFL going back to the start of last season.
59:12With the Jets, it's a little questionable how much stock I put into that right now for a couple of reasons.
59:19One, Aaron Glenn was not calling this defense throughout the entirety of last year.
59:23Also, like the Sauce Gardner got traded midway through the season.
59:27Like, it's like not as clean of a sample for the Jets right now, just in terms of matchups, as you might get for other teams.
59:36But yeah, I think that's a good note in terms of Jamison Williams right now is underperforming his expected fantasy points, his
59:43volume by the most of any wide receiver. It's a negative 8.8 fantasy point over expectation mark.
59:49And a lot of it is his own fault.
59:52He has a 25% drop rate this year. So, yeah, I don't know.
59:56I think if I'm doubling Lions, I think Aminrah St.
60:00Brown, clearly an amazing play, as he just kind of always is.
60:04Nothing's really changed there. Still leading the NFL in red zone targets, end zone targets, one of the top guys there.
60:11So, like, I think it's Aminrah and then probably Sam Laporta for me is going to be my second favorite Lions stacking
60:18partner outside of, like, Jameer Gibbs, I guess. So, yeah, that would probably be my approach is to just leave Jamo out of it.
60:26And I was saying this before the season. We have seen that throughout their careers, Sam Laporta has just out-targeted Jamison Williams, had a better role than him.
60:36Basically, every game, every split you can look at where they've both been playing.
60:40Yeah, I think that's just right. I think that's the way to approach it going forward.
60:46I think you actually talked about that on my podcast.
60:49It affected me in best ball. I didn't draft a ton of Jameau with Laporta.
60:54If I got Jameau, I avoided taking Laporta. And so far, I think that that is correct.
61:00It continues to work out that way. One team that I did see allowing a lot of long fantasy points through larger than 20 ADOT is the Ravens.
61:09So we've got George Pickens, we've got CeeDee Lamb, and we've got weird field conditions.
61:14So I don't know if that's going to affect things there.
61:18But what's your level of interest in the Cowboys receivers?
61:21Since you talked about liking Dakabet, do you have a preference between Lamb and Pickens?
61:26You're going to be playing both. Looks like Lamb is 14% here.
61:30Tell me about your interest there. Yeah, 14% actually feels light to me for CeeDee Lamb.
61:36I mentioned XFP per team play as a stat earlier that Parker Washington was top 12.
61:41CeeDee Lamb leads all position players in that stat.
61:44He has got, on a per-play basis, he's gotten a better role than Jameer Gibbs, than Jonathan Taylor, than all these bell cow running backs.
61:52That's legitimately pretty exciting to me. The schematic matchup is likely in Lamb's favor as well.
61:58The Ravens have played a ton of two high this year.
62:02Jesse Minner played a ton of two high with the Chargers over the previous two years.
62:07That seems to be part of his defense's schematic tendency that we can expect to be pretty consistent.
62:13And CeeDee has a much higher target share against two high looks than Pickens does.
62:18It's 31% to 10% this year. Not quite as wide last year, but it really has been CeeDee on a per-route basis
62:25that has been the best into these two high looks.
62:29Even over, yeah, overall of last season. So, I say that, and CeeDee's a great play for all of those reasons.
62:36Pickens has also, like, made me eat my words on that exact take before.
62:40I was, I'm sure I was saying the exact same thing when the Cowboys played Jesse Minner with the Chargers last year.
62:48And Pickens went for seven receptions over 100 yards and a touchdown.
62:52It was like a squeaky wheel game. He, like, hadn't scored a touchdown in a few weeks back then.
62:58There was, like, a squeaky wheel narrative going into the week.
63:02And he just outperformed, like, the schematic matchup where Pickens has always been much worse against two high looks.
63:08That's not super out of character for an X wide receiver that's locked to the boundary.
63:14That's just sort of what those looks tend to do.
63:17So, that makes me, like, a little less bullish on Pickens.
63:21But at the same time, it's kind of, who else are you going to play?
63:26I mean, technically, Javante Williams, Jake Ferguson have higher targets per outrun against two high than Pickens does going back to the start of last year.
63:35But that doesn't, like, get me going. That doesn't win you a tournament, probably.
63:39So, yeah, I think as a one-off, clearly Seedy is where I'm going.
63:44And I'm just kind of begrudgingly playing Pickens, I guess, in the stacks.
63:48Nice. Yeah, I think both seem like pretty reasonable plays, especially if you are playing some stacks there.
63:54Would you ever bring back in those stacks? I see Rashad Bateman coming in at 12% ownership.
64:00Obviously, this is going to be dependent on Zay Flowers' status.
64:03But we saw Bateman kind of go off last week.
64:07And he has not really always gone off with Flowers out.
64:10But last week, you know, Lamar kind of talked about how Bateman was going to get going.
64:16And then he did. So, are you going to be playing any Bateman at 4,700, 12% ownership?
64:22I mean, I think it's fine. The role was there last week.
64:26And as you mentioned, it really hasn't been in a lot of these spots.
64:31Yeah, I don't know. He burned me last week for not playing him.
64:35But if there's ownership, that's like a player I get nervous about playing into ownership, I guess, is what I'd say.
64:42Rashad Bateman. But I don't know. I don't have, like, that great of thoughts on him, honestly.
64:48I haven't given it that much consideration. I think that.
64:51I mean, the price has come up. It feels a little bit gross to go there this week.
64:57But, yeah, I had to throw him out there since we're talking about that game.
65:02You talked about liking Price Young. Do you have a clear preference between Jalen Coker and Ted Arroyd McMillan?
65:09Coker's at 5,500. McMillan's 6,000. They're both getting 10% ownership.
65:12Are you just double stacking with both of them?
65:15How are you playing it? So, assuming health, which maybe we'll get an update on Sunday morning, assuming Coker is healthy and
65:22a full go and everything, I prefer him. This was one of the bigger schematic spots that stood out to me this
65:30week, which is the Browns play this very man-heavy, cover-one-heavy defense.
65:33I wasn't sure that that was going to continue into this year with a new defensive coordinator, but he said that it
65:41would, and it has through two games, so I'm willing to trust it.
65:45But, Jalen Coker, against cover one since he's entered the league, averages 2.7 yards per outrun.
65:51That ranks top 12 among all wide receivers, and that split includes his rookie season when he was a part-time player, not
65:58nearly as involved in the offense as he is now.
66:01It's time for the Cokeheads. This is it. It's an amazing schematic matchup for him.
66:06He also ranks top 6 among all players in XFP per team play.
66:11He's up at over 20 DraftKings fantasy points per game over his last 3, including the playoffs.
66:16Coker's just awesome. I think this is a legitimate 1A, 1B between him and Tedrow and McMillan.
66:22I think both of them are awesome players. But Coker at 500 cheaper when he has seen a bit more work around
66:30the end zone so far this year, I think is pretty intriguing.
66:34But, yeah, honestly, I want to play both of them.
66:37TMAC also, going back to college, has always had really positive splits against man coverage.
66:4224% boost to his targets per outrun against cover one.
66:45So, I just think it's a really natural double stack like we were talking about earlier.
66:51But even taking one-offs for these guys feel really good to me for the pace reasons, the pass rate reasons as well that we mentioned earlier.
66:59And, yeah, I mean, if Coker's out or limited, then I think TMAC, if that's like the news we get Sunday morning
67:07that, like, oh, Coker's going to give it a go.
67:10Anything that's not, like, glowingly, oh, he's full go.
67:13Then I think TMAC is one of the best plays on the slate from that perspective just because he's, I think he's a better player than Coker.
67:22He's in just as good of a spot. Can absolutely take advantage of that.
67:27So, yeah, this is like one to watch on Sunday morning, but both of these guys I have a ton of interest in.
67:35I think I should just kind of open it up to you at this point because we, I mean, we talked about
67:42quarterbacks earlier and then we can get back into, I'm trying to think if there are any other quarterbacks that you loved
67:49that we need to talk about the stacking. But I think I'd kind of just like the open-ended throw it back to you.
67:57Who are the other wide receivers that, you know, you're targeting if you're just playing, you know, three entries or who are
68:05the ones you're targeting to make sure you have in your player pool no matter what.
68:10Producer Trey, can you sort by a salary and scroll up to the top for me really quick?
68:16So, we've got here at the top, it's JSN priced up the most of anyone, 12% projected ownership.
68:22We have Amun Ross, CeeDee Lamb also showing double-digit ownership.
68:25Jamar Chase is just sitting here at 8,100, single-digit ownership.
68:29I have a hard time believing that's even going to be the case.
68:33But if he is the lowest owned of all of these high-end wide receivers, I'm going to play Chase in my three maxes.
68:41Because I think this is an awesome, awesome spot for him.
68:45We have seen the Steelers defensive coordinator is Patrick Graham.
68:48He was with the Raiders last year. He's been one of the most cover three heavy DCs in the NFL.
68:55He's played it on at least a third of his dropbacks in 15 out of his last 19 games.
69:01Just very consistent, right? It's not often that we get this good of a spot for Jamar Chase.
69:07Ten games over the last three years where the Bengals have faced over a third cover three.
69:13Chase averages 26 DraftKings points per game in those spots.
69:16He has multiple 40 burgers. It's five more points per game than any other wide receiver over that span.
69:22And we see his targets per route run go up to 39%.
69:27A 39% target per route run rate. Against cover three.
69:30Dating back to last season. He just gets spammed the ball over and over against it.
69:35It comes out of T Higgins and Chase Brown's receiving workload.
69:39And I think it's a little bit of like an underrated game environment as well.
69:44Like Bengals and Steelers offenses certainly haven't lived up to expectations so far this year.
69:49But both are top five in pass rate over expectation.
69:52If things just kind of click for the Steelers.
69:55If they push it all. I could see this game getting out of hand pretty easily.
70:01And yeah Chase is just always live to nuke.
70:04Even outside of any of these like schematic considerations.
70:07That yeah if that's his ownership. He's one of my favorite wide receiver plays on the slate.
70:13Yeah it's interesting because like you know looking at it on its face does not appear to be a great matchup.
70:20With Pittsburgh. But yeah maybe maybe more interesting than it appears on its face.
70:24Love love that type of play. Who else are you?
70:28I mean you just not nothing. It's a JSN.
70:31Do you think he's going to continue scoring what two three touchdowns every single game?
70:36Is that just inevitable? Yeah as JSN going to continue averaging like eight yards per out run.
70:41I don't know if that's even real but it probably is with JSN.
70:46And I mean maybe yeah he's a player you can never rule out very clearly.
70:51My take has always been I prefer him more in the closer games.
70:55That was one of my biggest stats from last week.
70:59And we we played JSN last week and it certainly worked out last week.
71:03Not that the game even needed to stay close for it too.
71:07But yeah I mean I think he's solid but just it's just a little tough.
71:12Like are you going to pay 8600 for JSN?
71:15Are you going to pay 88 for Jameer Gibbs?
71:18I think I'm going to come on the Jameer Gibbs side of that equation most of the time.
71:24But yeah certainly a player that's like scary to be under the field on at any given point.
71:30Chris Olave just why why won't they price him up Neil?
71:34Why is he still only 7200? Can you do you have any do you have like a line to draft kings to get this answer for us?
71:43Because I it's keeping me up at night. Yeah I do I do notice people at draft kings.
71:49Maybe maybe I'll I'll DM and see if I can get an answer to why they won't price up Chris Olave.
71:56Yeah he's just an insanely good play. It it's to the point where Olave is never priced to where he should be
72:04where since Rashid Shaheed got traded last year. He's just been top three but in every wide receiver metric expected fancy points per game.
72:12Draft kings fantasy points per game even his yard per out run efficiency is like up this year.
72:18It's not just an empty volume scam. It's like actually kind of working.
72:22So yeah he's an awesome play and he's one that I feel like we forget about every week because he's an awesome play every single week.
72:31And sometimes I don't get enough of him for that reason.
72:35But yeah I think he's great and is like up there with it with any of these other more expensive receivers.
72:42I think he's a better play than at like at salary and ownership.
72:46Give me Olave over St. Brown. Give me Olave over JSN.
72:50Give me Olave over Justin Jefferson. All of those guys.
72:53So yeah I think he's really strong. Yeah so you're buying into the Saints stacks and we talked about Shuck already.
73:00Kind of natural to get to Olave as primary stacking partner there as well.
73:05Who else is on your list of must plays?
73:08Let me think. I don't know that I have a ton more guys.
73:12We already talked about Aidy Mitchell a good bit which I think is just not that he's a must play.
73:19But just in the sense that I wish I could have a stronger opinion on him.
73:24Aidy Mitchell famously gave me TMJ. Which for those who don't know it's like a jaw condition from like clenching your jaw too much.
73:32It's like from stress. At the end of 2024 we went all in on Aidy Mitchell at like as a site at Fantasy Points.
73:40In our projections, in our content and everything. And I believe that was the week that he threw the touchdown out of the back of the end zone.
73:50Rather than just holding it and scoring it and scoring.
73:53He just threw it away at the one yard line.
73:57And ever since then I've said I have had like my jaw issue.
74:01My TMJ issue. I had to get up fitted for a mouth guard.
74:05So like every time I get jaw pain I just think of Aidy Mitchell.
74:10Yeah he projects as an awesome point per dollar value.
74:13We just talked about the matchup angles and everything.
74:16But yeah am I playing him as a one off?
74:20Probably not. With the club hand you got to keep in mind with Aidy Mitchell.
74:25Yeah the club hand. The wide receiver that already can't catch.
74:28Yeah it's rough there. Yeah I don't know. You can ask me about guys if there's anyone else you have in mind.
74:36But I think we've done a decent job here at wide receiver.
74:40I see Trey Tucker mentioned in your article. Is Trey Tucker a target of yours?
74:45He is for game stacks. Also I wrote up my article when I wasn't exactly sure where ownership was going to land.
74:52It looks like the Saints stacks aren't going to be too popular.
74:56But I do think if you're trying to get different in those.
75:00Then Tucker at least makes some sense. He's not going to project super well for the price.
75:06He's 5k. So yeah this is only as like a bring back for the Raiders.
75:11If you don't want to play Ashton Jenty. Or can't fit him for whatever reason.
75:16But yeah really the idea is Trey Tucker should be.
75:19And he has been the only Raiders wide receiver.
75:23With anything close to a full time route share.
75:26He's the one staying on the field when they go into 12 personnel.
75:30Which I expect them to do a lot more this week with Brock Bowers back.
75:35Tucker has been the one getting the downfield usage.
75:38We talk about this Clint Kubiak deep play action cheat code.
75:42That was part of what made JSN so special last year.
75:45Clearly JSN has been fine even without it. But yeah like you could squint and see Tucker getting used on these deep balls.
75:53As like an impoverished man's JSN. Just kind of benefiting from what Kubiak likes to do offensively.
75:59We've seen the big play upside from him. Leads the team in area yard share.
76:04It's a strong schematic matchup for Trey Tucker. But yeah at 5k again probably only a game stack thing for me.
76:11But I think he's interesting if you're playing a bunch of Tyler Shuck.
76:15All right I think that the one final spot that we need to hit on is.
76:21We talked about Josh Allen and the bills. We have DJ Moore is questionable still.
76:26And he was in a red non-contact jersey at practice today.
76:29And then we have Keon Coleman also questionable. So it's a big maybe we don't need to talk about it in depth.
76:37Because it is we don't really know what the situation is going to be yet.
76:42For the bills. But if assuming everybody plays. Is it just DJ Moore you're going to?
76:47If DJ Moore is out. Is it Kolo Shakir?
76:50Or are you just going to Dalton and Kate in that case?
76:54Do you have interest in any of the bills wide receivers?
76:58I have interest in Moore if he plays. I'm a DJ Moore hater.
77:02I have been for a few years. All of his per route data has been absolutely terrible.
77:08For like most of the last couple of seasons.
77:11I was a skeptic coming into the year. But it's a little hard to argue with.
77:16When you include all of the plays called back from penalties.
77:20So in the data suite 2.0. We have a nice filter for that.
77:24Where you can just include all no plays in your data.
77:28And when you do that. DJ Moore is up at a 26% target per outrun rate.
77:33That would be the same as Chris Olave and Christian Watson this year.
77:38Which is extremely strong. Better than we've seen from him really at any point.
77:43Even going back to when he was with the Panthers.
77:46When I was a DJ Moore fan. And he ranks top 12 in air yards per game.
77:52If you include all of those no plays that were called back.
77:56Despite only running 12 routes in week 2. So this is a potentially insanely valuable downfield role for DJ Moore.
78:02In this Bills offense that we just spent a bunch of time talking up.
78:07So yeah. I think you have to have interest if he's playing.
78:11Keyon Coleman you can probably miss me with. Kind of regardless.
78:15Yeah. Not someone I'm interested in there. But I.
78:18But we'll get to tight end. I feel like I have more tight end takes than any.
78:24Than at any position this week. But yeah. Dalton.
78:27Spoiler. Dalton Kincaid is one of my favorite plays on the slate.
78:31Okay. I kind of thought that might be the case.
78:34Since yeah. The wide receivers kind of question marks.
78:37Dalton Kincaid does not feel like a question mark.
78:40Let's move on to tight ends. Talk about the chalk.
78:43And then we have Mark Andrews. At the top.
78:4618% projected ownership. Dalton Schultz. 16% after he saw a billion targets last week.
78:51Travis Kelsey. 15%. So let's start with those three.
78:54Because they're kind of separating. In terms of ownership.
78:57Are you going to be playing the olds. The old tight ends.
79:01At the top in ownership this week. I think the best play on here.
79:06Is Travis Kelsey. We skipped over the Chiefs wide receivers.
79:09But I can kind of talk about it all right now.
79:13Kelsey to me. Has by far the best matchup.
79:16Against the Dolphins. This week. Because they have gone extremely blitz heavy.
79:20Over their first two games. I went on kind of a rant.
79:24In advanced matchups. Talking about. How that's been different.
79:27In part from what Jeff Halfley. Has historically done.
79:30On early downs. But he's always blitzed a lot.
79:33On later downs. The Chiefs dropped back a ton.
79:36Anyway. On early downs. Like. I think it could continue.
79:39To where. They just have one of the highest.
79:42Blitz rates again. In week three. And if that's the case.
79:46Then. Travis Kelsey's yards per out run. Goes up over three.
79:50Against the blitz. Even going back to the start of last season.
79:54Only Trey McBride. Sees a higher target share. Than Kelsey.
79:57Against the blitz. Among all tight ends. We've seen Kelsey's role.
80:01Really be the one. To benefit the most. From this kind of new look.
80:06Chiefs offense. Where. Rather than wasting. All of these.
80:09Screen targets. On Rashi Rice. They are now. Running the ball more.
80:13Using. Doing some screen targets. To Ken Walker. Doing some unsuccessful.
80:16Ons to Xavier Worthy. Largely. And. In terms of just a straight drop back.
80:21Like actual. Receiver. First read. Target share. And everything.
80:24Travis Kelsey has just been the one. To step into the void.
80:28Left by Rashi Rice. Kelsey's first read. Target share.
80:31Up to 25.5%. This year. It was down below 20% last year.
80:35He's. Yeah. He's so underpriced. I think if. If I'm going to a Chiefs.
80:40To a Chiefs receiver. This week. It's Kelsey. Worthy scares me.
80:44Just in that. So much of his projection. Is around.
80:47The designed work. It's around the. Work. Around the end zone.
80:51And everything. And that. I feel like. That can get taken away.
80:55So quickly. Like it got taken away. From Rashi Rice.
80:58So quickly. Yeah. Worthy with ownership. Worries me. Kelsey.
81:01Really doesn't. So yeah. Of any of these. Chalky tight ends.
81:05If I'm playing one. I'm playing him. Okay. And you're.
81:08So he's your favorite. Of the. Okay. Of that top three.
81:12I mean. Trey McBride. 6,700. 9% ownership. I feel like we always have to talk about.
81:17Trey McBride. Is he just. In every week play.
81:20At this point. Until he gets to like 8,000.
81:23Or are you fading. The. The price there. I mean.
81:27Yeah. Basically. There's nothing new to say about Trey McBride.
81:30You just play him every week. Until he's too expensive.
81:33Easy game. All right. I think that is enough to say about.
81:37Trey McBride. Because yeah. He's only. He's only 6,700.
81:40Still somehow. You talked about. Dalton Kincaid. But let me just open it up to you.
81:46Who are your favorite. Tight end plays. Since you have.
81:49It sounds like several. That you like quite a bit.
81:52Who else do you like at tight end? Dalton Kincaid.
81:56I'll start with him. Against two high looks. So I think I mentioned earlier.
82:00The Chargers. Play a lot of two high looks.
82:04Dalton Kincaid. Averages. A 31% target. Per outrun rate.
82:07That's the second most of any wide receiver. Behind only Amon Ross St.
82:11Brown. Over the past three seasons. This guy. Is an efficiency breaker.
82:15He's a model breaker. He's a math breaker. Every week.
82:18We. Like. Do our initial run of projections. And every week.
82:22It's just like. Hey. Dalton Kincaid's too low. Because.
82:25The projection model thinks that he shouldn't have. A three yard per outrun.
82:29But like he should. And he just does. And he has.
82:33For so long. This year. He. The bet hit.
82:36Really. He just. Is playing enough routes now. Where.
82:39Over his last nine games. Above a 50% route share.
82:42He averages 16. DraftKings fantasy points. He's gone over 19.
82:46In four of those nine. That's the same as Trey McBride.
82:50Who is 1200. Less expensive than. I. I just love.
82:53Dalton Kincaid. As a play. It's. Happens. In terms of the bills.
82:57Wide receivers playing. That could. Shift things. But. Yeah.
83:00Right now. Showing 5%. That's one of my favorite plays on the slate.
83:04Dalton Kincaid. You can put. You play him. As a single stack with Josh Allen.
83:09You can just play Dalton Kincaid. To me. That's worth it.
83:13He's priced up relative to tight ends. But. Yeah.
83:16If you think of him as a wide receiver.
83:19At 5500. That's. What? Like the wide receiver. 20.
83:22Or something. Somewhere around that. That. That's super worth it to me.
83:26So. Yeah. Awesome. Smash spot. For Dalton Kincaid. Isaiah likely.
83:29Is my favorite. Jameis Winston stacking partner. I was a skeptic.
83:33On. Likely. Coming into the year. But he. He has just.
83:37Shown. Or at least the Giants. Have just shown us.
83:40That this is what they want. His role to be.
83:4433%. First read target share. This year. Second best behind.
83:47Only Trey McBride. At the position. Close to 17.
83:50Expected. Fantasy points per game. That would be. Ninth best.
83:53Among slate. Eligible wide receivers. He's priced as the wide receiver.
83:5736. So likely. Another guy. Kind of. Expensive relative.
84:00To the tight ends. But relative to wide receivers.
84:03On this slate. Not really. The volume has been awesome.
84:06Yeah. If you're playing. A giant. With. Jameis Winston.
84:09With Malik neighbors. Kind of banged up. Potentially being.
84:12More of a decoy. That's not like. Totally confirmed.
84:16But it seems possible. He. Left. Last week's game.
84:19With a. Dislocated shoulder. He's had shoulder. Injuries. Going back to college.
84:23Of course. Still. Coming back from. His ACL injury.
84:26His average separation. Score metrics. Have been way down.
84:29Over the first two weeks. Which is somewhat expected.
84:32As he. Works his way back. So. Not totally clear.
84:35Whether Malik neighbors. Is. At full health. Is just a decoy.
84:39This week. That I think that just means. We continue to hammer.
84:43Isaiah likely. At least in those. Jameis stacks. Probably last tight end.
84:47I. Want to make sure. I bring up. Is a Rondé Gadsen.
84:51It's finally time. People are not excited enough. About.
84:54A Rondé Gadsen. I. 3,500. That pretty much. Takes every other.
84:57Punt tight end. Off of my board. This week.
85:01Because I would just. Rather play. A Rondé Gadsen.
85:04In every circumstance. Ran a route on. 90% of the charges.
85:07Dropbacks. In. The fourth quarter. Last week. After David Njoku.
85:11After Charlie Kohler. Left. If the role is even.
85:14Close to that. He's an absolute smash. Gadsen averaged.
85:1716 and a half. DraftKings fantasy points. Per game.
85:20In games above. A 75% route share. As a rookie.
85:23We have seen. Mike McDaniel. His. Kind of cure.
85:26To. An offense. That's struggling. Every single year. Has been.
85:29I'm going to scheme up. A bunch of touches.
85:32For my. Pass catching. Only tight end. We're going to.
85:36Abandon the run game. We're going to abandon. Trying to block everybody.
85:40We're just going to. Do this. PPR scam. To Darren Waller.
85:44And John. Smith. Those two guys. Are. Top five.
85:47Tight end. Over their last. 17. Healthy games. With McDaniel.
85:50And he's just going to be. Forced to play.
85:53Gadsden this week. So. Yeah. Give me all. The Ronda.
85:56Gadsden. At 3,500. Lad. McConkie. Also a decent play.
85:59I think you mentioned. Earlier. That you weren't sure.
86:02In terms of what to do. With Chargers. Bringbacks.
86:05I think it's really clear. I think Gadsden's an awesome play.
86:09And I think Lad. Is. At least worth the risk.
86:12In terms of. Him. Just getting back to the role.
86:16We saw in week one. I. The Chargers. Are still.
86:19Like a top 10 offense. With Lad. On the field.
86:22A top. Or a bottom. Three offense. With Lad.
86:25Off the field. I. He. Was. In week two.
86:29Wearing a flak jacket. But he practiced fully. All week.
86:32I think it's back to wheels up. For Lad.
86:35McConkie. So. Those two guys. Are awesome to me.
86:38Really love that game. I think it's a great game.
86:41To stack up. Very sad. For the. The Kohler.
86:44Kohler Express. Is fully derailed. At this point. Not on.
86:48Not on IR. I guess. So we do have that going for us.
86:52But. Yeah. The Gadsden people. How they're going to get there.
86:56With both Kohler. And Njoku. Being hurt right now.
86:59Yeah. I think Gadsden. Really strong play. At 4% ownership.
87:023,500. Tough to argue with that. What do you think?
87:05Are we ready to. Start making some lineups? Yeah.
87:08Unless there's anyone else you want to. Ask about or bring up.
87:13That. Those were the guys on my mind. At tight end.
87:16So. Yeah. We can. We can build a lineup.
87:19Yeah. I'm going to take a quick look at.
87:22See if there's any other. Tight ends that I.
87:25Need to hear about. I mean. Jawan Johnson. At 3,700.
87:29I think you can certainly include him. In. In.
87:32Tyler Shuck. Stacks. But I. I guess. One other name that I.
87:36I'd like your opinion on. Pat Frymouth. Because. Because we have.
87:39Continued to see. Tight ends against Cincinnati. Don't. Schultz last week.
87:43Against Cincinnati. It's been as long as I've been alive.
87:46Tight ends against Cincinnati. It feels like it shouldn't be a thing anymore.
87:51Because the defense is. Is better. But. Are we just going to continue to do tight end.
87:56Against Cincinnati. Frymouth does not actually project that well.
88:00But. But I want to throw that name out there.
88:03I am. I love Frymouth. I think he's also an amazing play.
88:07Glad you brought him up. Yeah. He's. So far.
88:10His role this year. Has been like. Fringe. Top 10.
88:13Tight end. By. Expected fantasy points. Targets per game.
88:16All. All of the usage data. He's priced slightly below that.
88:20As the tight end 14. But. Yeah. As you bring up.
88:24I think. It's happening again. With the Bengals. I think it's still the case.
88:28That. They are. The best defense to play tight ends against.
88:32By a significant margin. Since. The start of last year.
88:3520.7. DraftKings fantasy points per game. Allowed to tight ends.
88:39That's. 19% more. Than any other defense. In any other season.
88:43Since 2021. At least. I. It's. Just. Seems to be the case.
88:47Yeah. Dalton Schultz last week. Even Kate Auton was.
88:50More involved than Kate Auton. Probably should be. Against the Bengals in week one.
88:54I think that's just what we're getting. I. So yeah.
88:58Fryermuth has. An amazing matchup. We talked about the Bengals being an underneath funnel.
89:02Two with Jalen Warren. That's another note going into Pat Fryermuth's favor.
89:06Yeah. I mean. Give me anyone to play other than DK freaking Metcalf on this team.
89:12And I'm going to get somewhat interested. So. Yeah.
89:15He's. Patty Fry's cheap enough. Kind of. Kind of a fun.
89:18Mini stack. You could do with Jamar Chase. Maybe.
89:21Yeah. He's. He's good. I like him a lot.
89:24Okay. Yeah. The one other name that I see on the list here.
89:29Just because. Because Mason Taylor is out. Then you.
89:32Are you willing to play any Kenyan Sadiq? Or is it.
89:36Is it too early in his career? Are they not going to give him enough run this week?
89:42Yeah. I. I don't have any confidence in the role.
89:45Really. So I'm probably good on Sadiq. All right.
89:48Let's. Let's make some lineups. Let's do it. And I'll.
89:51Uh. Would you like the first honor of choosing the stack that we start with?
89:56The first lineup or the second lineup? Uh. Let's do the first one.
90:01I really want to do a Josh Allen lineup with Dalton Kincaid.
90:05And we can work out how to do, how to build the rest of it from there.
90:10Okay. And then you already mentioned that you like lad McConkie.
90:14You like around. So get around to Gadsden as potential bring backs.
90:18But, uh, let's, let's hold off on those for now.
90:22Um. So let me throw a running back in here.
90:25And we're, I mean, we're already, we're spending a lot of money with Josh Allen and Dalton Kincaid.
90:31So I feel like we probably need to save a little bit at running back.
90:36Um. I think I'm, I'm sounds like I'm maybe a little bit more into him than you are going to Jalen Warren
90:43and he is questionable, but it sounds like he's good to go.
90:47Um, I'm going to throw Jalen Warren in there because you, you had some interest at least.
90:53Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like the, the only holes I'm poking it is like he he's chalk and it's Jalen Warren is kind
91:01of what it comes down to when, yeah, when not like a top five talent running back in the league is one
91:08of the top three chalkiest on a bad offense.
91:11It's easy to say, but like, yeah, it's a good play.
91:15The volume is going to be there more than likely.
91:18All right. Who do you want to add to this one?
91:22Um, well, if we're doing Jalen Warren, we have.
91:25We have over 5k left per player. Um, let's just add lad to this one.
91:30And then, um, if we're paying down at running back, like I, I think the other, like choose your own adventure of
91:37this is, is like, and maybe tell me if this is stupid or if you think this is genius, it is just
91:45doing double tight end, uh, Kincaid Gadsden. And then you, and then you could probably even pay up to running backs in
91:52a Josh Allen lineup, which, which sounds fun. But I think this is also really strong and works, but yeah, it's just like two pads to take.
92:01Yeah. I mean, definitely viable. I think it is.
92:04Yeah. Neither, neither stupid nor genius to go double tight.
92:07I feel like people forever tried to like say, Oh, you can't play double tight end.
92:13Like it's a bad process, whatever. And I always kind of disagree with that.
92:17And I feel like the, the Sims and recent what's been winning recently has been a lot of double tight end.
92:25Uh, so that's certainly a way that we could go, but let's, let's see if we can make this work first.
92:32Um, and let me see if I can find any cheap wide receivers, uh, that we talked about.
92:38I feel like we, we didn't talk about any that are like super cheap that I remember outside of like Rashad Bateman,
92:45who you seem kind of iffy on. Um, yeah, so maybe do you have a name in here that you like?
92:52I'm trying to, I swear I had a cheap wide receiver that I really liked and it's escaping me right now.
92:59Let me scroll through my notes and try to, and try to help you out.
93:04Is this somebody that we talked about? I don't believe so.
93:08And we probably didn't talk about him because I just forgot about him.
93:12Um, well, while you're doing that, I think I'm just going to throw in Parker Washington because we, we agree that he is just too cheap at 6,000.
93:22He's not going to see the Christian Gonzalez coverage.
93:25Um, and he's, you know, yeah, again, relatively cheap.
93:28We still have 47 25 left for play per player with a wide receiver spot, running back spot flex and defense left to go.
93:36Yeah. I like that. Um, yeah, damn, I guess my, uh, yeah, we didn't really talk about cheap wide receivers much.
93:43Um, I think the one I have the most interest in is I, I guess oddly enough, and maybe against my better
93:50judgment is the Browns guys, which we didn't talk about at all.
93:54Uh, but like Denzel Boston at 4,500 Casey Concepcion, even at 4,300, uh, in pro probably like a less favorable downfield role.
94:02But the, the first read targets have been there right with Boston.
94:06I've been running more routes than Jerry Judy in week two Concepcion.
94:10Uh, one of the prospects that I, and a lot of people at fantasy points were some of the highest on.
94:17So I, I do kind of like doing it.
94:20And we're, I mean, I'm big on Jalen Coker, Ted McMillan to do doing a mini there could be fun, uh, with
94:27like Coker plus Denzel Boston, uh, or, or any version of that kind of.
94:32All right. Well, let's see. Um, we could see if we can make that work.
94:37It's going to be tough because we'll need a really cheap running back, I think.
94:42Uh, so we could throw in for now. I'm going to try it.
94:46Let's try Coker is 5,500. And then if we throw in, you say Denzel Boston, 4,500.
94:52Yeah. Where's Boston? Oh, there he is. Um, and then if we do, let me see what we can do as far as like throwing in a defense.
95:01Um, and we, we have not talked about defenses at all, but let's see.
95:06We could try like a little bit rough at the bottom for defense.
95:10It is. Okay. We could do Tennessee against Jamis Titans against Jamis seems like a pretty decent spot.
95:16Perfect. Yeah. Uh, and then we have 6,500 for our final, uh, could do Brees Hall, Bucky Irving.
95:22Chuba. Do you, uh, particularly like any of those options?
95:26Um, not particularly. Chuba would be the favorite, but that's, I don't, I don't know how great that is with Coker and Boston.
95:33Yeah. I, so I have one more cheap wide receiver that we could try.
95:38Um, I don't know what to get us to.
95:41And, and I don't, I'm not in love with the play, but I'm like sort of four large field GPP is interested in Jalen Noel.
95:49Um, just from the perspective of the Colts have been really bad about wide receivers, but they've been especially bad against, it's
95:57really just really bad against slot receivers. Like slot receivers have absolutely crushed against, uh, the Colts so far this year.
96:04And Jalen Noel, uh, running the most from the slot.
96:07So I like, I have some interest there, but he, like his role isn't good enough that like, obviously they, they faced a flowers in the slot.
96:16They faced the chiefs, uh, running multiple receivers, uh, in the slot, but could do that.
96:22But, uh, I don't know. It's let's see. Uh, super Neil last play love that you brought him up.
96:28Uh, I wrote Jalen Noel's name in my notes earlier this week and I deleted him because I thought it was too
96:35thin because I'm not necessarily writing for, uh, yeah.
96:38Like super large field, 150 max stuff. But I, I mean, I, yeah, sure.
96:43What's his price. It's there. Is it under third?
96:46I want to say 3,700. Let's see. Yeah. I mean, Nico Collins confirmed out Jalen Noel's routes came up some, it's still,
96:54it wasn't to the point where I was like, okay, full-time player, we can like bank on it.
97:00But if you want to put them in a lineup, I'm not going to be mad about it.
97:06Jalen, I think Jalen Noel's awesome. Uh, it gets us to Kenneth Walker at the second running spot.
97:12Sure. Do it. Let's. Yeah. All right. You've convinced me now.
97:15Yeah. Kenneth Walker. I mean, it's a little bit thin.
97:19Like he does not have an amazing role or anything, but again, they've just, they've, uh, slot receiver is absolutely dominant against the Colts so far this year.
97:28Um, so yeah. All right. And it gets Kenneth Walker.
97:31Love that. So let's, let's roll with this. I think this works.
97:35Josh Allen with the Dalton Kincaid bring back of lad McConkey.
97:39Then we've got Jalen Warren, Kenneth Walker, Parker, Washington, Jalen Coker.
97:43We'd no longer have the one V one with Coker.
97:46Um, but then we have Jalen Noel and the Titans defense uses the full salary.
97:51Let's roll with it. Oh, check in location. Is it going to work?
97:56Oh no. It usually does. I think it's not going to let you submit that million dollar lineup.
98:02Neil. There we go. It worked. It worked. It's letting us, it's letting us win the Millie.
98:07All right, let's do, let's do one more. Um, and now I will, let's see what stack do I want to start with?
98:15Could go golf. Could go, let's just do that.
98:18Let's just do Bryce Young double stack. Love it.
98:21Um, T Matt Coker. Different. So now we're going a lot cheaper.
98:25Yeah. Let's do. Let's do the Jamar chase Pat fryer move mini.
98:29Nice. Okay. And then we can, yeah, probably eat chalk at running back or whatever you want to do.
98:36But yeah. Yeah. Uh, well let's, I'll throw in a defense here just so we get a better idea of what we're actually dealing with.
98:44Um, money wise. Let's see. We could go Tampa against Kyler.
98:48Um, what else? I'm like part, I'm sort of interested in playing Dallas or Baltimore defense just because it could be such
98:55a slot fest, but I also think those, those, uh, offenses are so good that, you know, don't feel super strongly about that.
99:03Could just go Carolina against Cleveland again. I mean, Carolina worked out pretty well last week.
99:08Yeah. What's are the Vikings price like all the way up?
99:12I was only at 3,100 there. Yeah. Vikings versus Tampa is also pretty good.
99:17Should we just do that? We do Vikings and Aaron Jones.
99:20Undo Vikings and Aaron could do. Yes. Yeah. Let's do that.
99:24That sounds great. Yeah. Save us some money at running back.
99:28And then. Yep. So now we could play an expensive running back.
99:32And then, I mean, if we play Gibbs, we only have 3,200 left.
99:36So that's not ideal. Um, but if we play more of a mid price running back, we can play a decent flex.
99:43What are you thinking? Uh, what's genti 71. So that'd be 49.
99:47Uh, I don't know if that's enough. Uh, do you want to see our options at flex at 49?
99:54Let's see. QJ. Uh, these wide receiver prices. It's only week three, man.
99:58But it's gotten, it's gotten rough. Yeah. Bateman likely is there.
100:02Like he's there. Um, Devon Ville is, I think in the 4k range.
100:06He's 4,400. Leads all wide receivers and routes. Um, I don't think he's that good, but if it's, uh, just a, yeah.
100:14If, if the saints are going to run a shitload of plays like they do every week, it could benefit.
100:20I don't, yeah. I don't know that I love him.
100:24I mean, then you get up to Walker or Taylor too.
100:27Like, yeah. Um, yeah. I, I, you can take V lay out if you don't like that play.
100:33I feel like I, I, that one feels gross to me, but we could throw Gadsden in here.
100:40See, see what that gets us to. Okay. I like that.
100:43That gets us up to double tight end action.
100:46McCaffrey. Yeah. I mean, if, if you don't love it, we can do something else.
100:51Can we, can we pay down at 300 at defense and get Gibbs or, or no, how much?
100:57It wouldn't be Gibbs. 200 more. Let's see if we play Gibbs, then we're down to 2,800 at defense.
101:04Uh, so that could be, I mean, bills against, uh, at home against Justin Herbert and that bad charges offense, uh, Baltimore against Dallas.
101:12Plus if you want to lean into the slot fest there, Tampa against Kyler.
101:16Tampa against Kyler feels pretty good to me. Yeah.
101:20I don't hate that. And then we have two.
101:23Yeah. That's a beauty. We have Aaron Jones. We can't play Tampa.
101:27Oh, that is true. I mean, we can, it's still, it's still loud.
101:31Uh, but if you say so, also we, we, uh, we played Aaron Jones thinking we're going to play the Vikings defense.
101:38So we could, if we wanted to get up to, uh, the bring back of, I don't know, Chuba wouldn't be a
101:46bring back, but he add onto the stack there.
101:49Um, or David Montgomery. I don't know, but I think it's fine to play box defense against Aaron Jones.
101:55Okay. I, I, that's like in my head, that's like thing you don't do in DFS, but you're the millionaire and I'm not.
102:03So let's do it. Let's do it. I like it.
102:06I mean, it's not my, like, again, usually hand building.
102:10It's not something I try to do, but, uh, it is something like using Sims more and more.
102:16I'm like, yeah, I think that's probably fine. All right, cool.
102:19Let's run it. I love, I love, I love this lineup then.
102:23Uh, Trey, Trey throughout. We could have done Titans in the nor'easter.
102:27That's actually a good idea too. Titans against, against, uh, which I guess we did that with our last one, right?
102:34Against Jameis Winston. Yep. Yeah. So there you go.
102:37Sounds like a good play as, as good of a play as I think Jameis is, uh, the Titans defense also sounds pretty good to me.
102:46Yeah. I like that. So this one, we went Bryce Young with Jalen Coker, Teddero at McMillan, no bring backs.
102:53But we have Jameer Gibbs, Aaron Jones, uh, Jamar Chase, many with Pat Friermuth, both Aranda Gadsden and the Bucks defense.
103:00So there you go. I think those are, those are two strong lineups for the Millie maker.
103:06We're going to get out of here. Ryan, uh, what, what else do you have, uh, that people should look out for?
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103:42I I'm, I'm excited for this slate. I have a good feeling, Neil.
103:47Yeah. This is week three is when we bounce back.
103:50We're going to have a big one. Um, yeah.
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