0:00It is the best time of the week. Your long wait is over.
0:04Cashing Points is back. Week 5 is here. We have an 11-game slate to break down.
0:10We've got a special show for you planned. I'm Graham Barfield, joined today by Ryan Heath, and we've got our guy, Mr.
0:17CEO Scott Barrett. He is in the house. We have a little bit of a throwback show.
0:23Scott and I have been doing Cashing Points for, what, six years?
0:27Jake's out at a wedding. Scott's filling in for Jake this week, so we've got a great show planned.
0:33Like I said, 11 games. Let's get into it, guys.
0:36We have a lot to get to. This is a messy slate.
0:40We have so many injuries to get to, and maybe the most important injury situation to get to.
0:46We'll start at the top here with this Bengals and Dolphins game.
0:50The Cincinnati Bengals are seven-half-point favorites. This over-under is 42-and-a-half.
0:54Obviously, Cincinnati projects incredibly well, regardless of the receiver situation.
0:57But, yeah, Jamar Chase is limited in practice the last two days.
1:01He's questionable to play. It seems like he's trending up.
1:04However, T. Higgins will have to see. The Bengals have a bye next week.
1:09It makes sense for them to give T. maybe a little bit of rest to give him two weeks to get right.
1:16The only other note I have here is Colby Young should also be back.
1:21That only matters if you're considering Mitchell Tensley this week.
1:24Colby Young's been running ahead of Mitchell Tensley. Scott, you'll get us started here, man, with this Bengals side.
1:30This is obviously one of the main spots we have to get right on this slate with the Bengals projecting so well in this receiver situation.
1:39Joe Burrow, though, is projecting for very little ownership.
1:42Everybody's going to be paying down at quarterback on DraftKings.
1:45Curious for your thoughts on Burrow and the Bengals here, man.
1:49Yeah, so, you know, looking for quarterback options besides those in the Detroit-Arizona game, I feel like Burrow stacks has to be
1:56at or near the top of the list. So he's going up against the Miami Dolphins, which is like an embarrassingly bad pass defense.
2:04They're giving up the third-worst passer rating. They rank dead last in pressure rate, fifth worst in fantasy points per dropback.
2:11All that favorable. Obviously, we worry about Miami's ability to push back.
2:15What I will say is this is like the cheapest he's been to stack in a while.
2:21You know, certainly if Jamar Chase misses, then it's the most affordable Burrow stack ever.
2:26But I really like all the pieces in this game.
2:29You know, you're talking about the pass catchers. Obviously, Jamar Chase averaged what?
2:34Like 190 yards per game last year when Higgins missed time.
2:37The year before that, though, when T. Higgins missed time, Mike Jasicki, over his last six games, that T.
2:44Higgins was out or questionable. Nine targets for 30 yards, 10 targets for 68 yards, eight targets for 73 yards, 12 targets
2:51for 86 yards, nine targets for 91 yards, and six targets for 100 yards.
2:55That's a lot of targets. That's a lot of yards.
2:59You know, that trend didn't hold true last year.
3:02Like I said, it was Jamar Chase-Megan-Nuke games. But I do think Mike Jasicki is interesting.
3:07Obviously, everyone's clamoring to play Dante Myers, the Saskatchewan Rough Rider.
3:11Shout out the CFL, Dante. Dude, he looks awesome.
3:14Yeah, he does. He had a 91% route share last week.
3:17Brett and Jeff Mueller both remarked on his rare acceleration abilities.
3:21But still, it's also like a guy whose name we didn't even know a couple of weeks ago.
3:27So, Chris on the projections call likes Kobe Young a little bit more than Mitch Tinsley.
3:32Young was out last week. They cut Tinsley from the roster.
3:36So, these are all the pass catchers. Dante Myers on paper projects the best with or without Chase.
3:42I will just say, you know, if he's super chalky, I kind of like the pivot to Roman Wilson or the leverage that a Mike Jasicki represents.
3:51And then the running back, obviously, if Miami doesn't push back here, you have to be interested in Chase Brown who, you know, on the YouTube.
4:00By the way, I appreciate you guys letting me do a DFS show.
4:04The fantasy points higher up said the Exodias were so bad that I've been relegated to YouTube.
4:10I'm an entertainer now. Ryan, Graham are the serious analyst.
4:13On my start sit show, said mega start. On the buy low, sell high, mega buy low.
4:19He ranks fourth in non-red zone XFP per game.
4:22Finally, Bijan, Jameer Gibbs, Ash, and Gentee. What's going on?
4:25Just a little bit bad luck. You know, Cincinnati Bengals not appearing inside the red zone as often as they did last year.
4:33And so you have that. You also had, by the way, 11 catches last week.
4:38And it's a top five matchup for him. So maybe what makes the most sense, certainly on a Detroit, Arizona stacked lineup, is you just play Chase Brown.
4:47But it is certainly possible that Bengals pass game goes off.
4:50The big question here is whether or not Miami pushes them and probably not.
4:55Yeah, that is a huge question. Ryan, I'll throw it over to you for your thoughts on that.
5:01Miami has obviously been, you know, right there with the Chargers as, you know, the bottom two offenses in football.
5:08Is there anybody on this team that interests you for DFS this week?
5:12I can try to talk myself into a couple guys like halfway there.
5:16But ultimately, I'm not really interested in anybody if I'm being frank.
5:20To spell out the problem here, the Dolphins just are on pace to be one of the lowest play volume offenses that we've seen in recent NFL history.
5:30The average offense this year is running about 62 plays per game.
5:34The Dolphins have only gone over 56 in one of their four games.
5:38They were at 37 plays last week, which is just an absurdly low number.
5:43Doesn't seem like there's any sort of urgency to play faster to get Malik Willis running the ball more with Devon Achan out.
5:50None of that has really materialized. So I'm just kind of done wishing for the Dolphins to do what we all want.
5:58But Malik Washington is only 4,600 and he's going to project the best of any of these pieces, mostly just because there's
6:05nowhere else to really put the target share. He ranks top eight in target share this season.
6:11But again, it just doesn't matter because the Dolphins are insanely run heavy.
6:15They don't run many plays. I don't know that it matters even against a Bengals defense.
6:20It's been a top five pass funnel. The closest the closest other place you could get me is just say, hey, we're
6:28going to play every single tight end against the Bengals this year and last year.
6:32That's been correct. A lot of the time, the Bengals over the last two seasons are something like 20 percent worse against
6:40opposing tight ends than any other defense over the last five years.
6:44Greg Dalsich is 3,100. But yeah, again, he's only running 55 percent of the routes on a team that already could run like 40 plays.
6:52It just doesn't seem worth the squeeze to me at all to go here this week.
6:57Yeah, it's rough for Miami, man. You nailed it.
7:00I mean, this offense is playing slow. Can't generate first downs.
7:04You know, they could certainly have a slightly better game here just because I like Ryan kind of mentioned this Bengals defense isn't very good.
7:12But yeah, this is this is still a very, very rough team outlook.
7:17I was mentioning at the top. This is just an awesome week to pay down a quarterback, but it's not an awesome week to play Malik Willis.
7:26It is never Malik Willis week. And for all the reasons that Ryan noted, I am I'm not on Willis.
7:32There's just way better pay down quarterbacks on this slate.
7:36We'll keep it going with a slightly better game.
7:39Raiders and the Patriots. Patriots are three and a half point favorites at home.
7:43This total is decent. Forty five right now. Raiders are one of the best offenses, kind of sneakily one of the best offenses in football.
7:52Shout out to you, Ryan. You were all over Vegas kind of being this ascending offense this season.
7:58That has certainly happened. Let's talk Raiders here first, Scott.
8:01Obviously, the big question now is Ashton Gentry. He obviously hurt his ankle in August.
8:06He picked up, it seems like maybe a new injury.
8:09We don't really have a whole lot of information on this injury.
8:13Did not practice officially today. I feel like he's seen all the Trent Richardson comps.
8:18And so he needs to save some face here.
8:21Oh, God. Yeah. Is it that bad out there for our guy?
8:25All the stat comparisons, Ashton Gentry versus Trent Richardson.
8:28I wasn't that critical. I said Najee Harris and Ryan Heath was very upset with me over it.
8:34I mean, at this point, I mean, it's looking like that might be the base case.
8:39I think T. Rich is too far. That's a bridge too far for me.
8:44But the thing is, rookie season Najee was an exodia.
8:47It was like kind of big dividends. He was like RB8 that season.
8:52I remember you and I both loved him. Yeah, but he was like RB1 by XFP per game, which is like the Ashton Gentry thesis here.
9:00Yeah, it is. And I mean, dude, he's been RB2 by XFP and by a landslide.
9:06The role is really good. Like I said, we'll just have to see.
9:10Real quick, Scott. I mean, Mike Washington is 4,200.
9:13If Gentry is out, he's going to be probably the highest own running back play on this slate, maybe even more than Jameer Gibbs.
9:21Everybody's going to play him and myself included. It's going to project so well.
9:26Let's throw it to you for your thoughts on the Raiders here.
9:30Obviously, like I said, we'll just have to see on the Gentry news.
9:34Yeah, I really think he's going to play. And, you know, maybe it's worth monitoring what Jay Glazer says on Sunday.
9:41He wasn't, you know, really popping as like an immense value for us even before this news.
9:47But it is something like, I don't know, you know, if it scares people off and the ownership really drops, I think, you know, that could be interesting.
9:56As always, make sure you hear John Proctor's thoughts on the Sunday morning show.
10:01Outside of that, you know, Brock Bowers is in play.
10:04I think it makes sense where it's only what, a $200 difference between him and Trey McBride.
10:10And Trey McBride is going to be mega chalky.
10:13I don't know. I think it's the Patriots. I think it's Vrabel.
10:16I think he just sees a ton of bracket coverage.
10:20And I'm personally not going to go there. New England's also giving up the fewest fantasy points per game to tight ends.
10:27But then again, you have Max Toscano saying, hey, this isn't a tight end.
10:32He's not. This is Jordy Nelson reincarnated. And he's playing a ton of X, yeah.
10:37Yeah, I mean, he runs more receiver routes than any tight end.
10:41And on that note, Patriots are not going to have both their top corners.
10:45Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis are both dealing with injuries.
10:49They're really beat up in the second year. I think their backup is also injured.
10:54Yeah, I mean, McBride projects better than Bowers, Scott.
10:57But yeah, I mean, he's going to be like 6%, 7%, 8% when McBride's pushing 30.
11:02I think it's very interesting for tournaments. DraftKings has been very soft on pricing for tight ends all year.
11:08This week might be the worst week for that, honestly.
11:12And Bowers is certainly a part of that. Ryan, I'll throw it at you for your thoughts on your Patriots.
11:18Drake may have a nice little bounce back this past week.
11:22And I think this game environment has a chance to shoot out for sure.
11:27Both teams are playing reasonably fast. They're both top 16 in pace.
11:31And like I said, I think May is probably the linchpin to this game.
11:35If he can continue this kind of slight upward trend, this game certainly has a path to be a shootout.
11:42I'd agree with that sentiment. I think as long as the Patriots kind of do their part, and they are favored by
11:49close to around three points is where the spread is hovered.
11:53I do think this could be a decent game environment.
11:56The Raiders have been top six in pace of play when they've been trailing this year.
12:02That's a long-running Clint Kubiak thing, even with the Seahawks, even though they rarely trailed.
12:06So I do think this game is probably a bit underrated.
12:10That is to give you some interest in Drake May.
12:13He's up at 6,300, so a little expensive relative to a lot of the quarterbacks people are going to want to play this week.
12:21But he went for 28.2 DraftKings fantasy points last week.
12:25Looked better. This was the first game since the wild card of last year that he didn't have a turnover-worthy throw, is a fun little fact.
12:33But ultimately, I think most of what we've seen for the ups and downs for May recently is explained by schedule and turnover variants.
12:41The rushing role hasn't really changed. So he had a season high in rushing yardage last week, but his scramble rate was
12:49exactly the same as it's been over the past two seasons.
12:52So I really do think we're just kind of on the roller coaster with May at this point.
12:58You just got to hope he takes care of the ball.
13:02Probably not close to my favorite quarterback play, but he is viable.
13:06You're stacking him likely with Romeo Dobbs, who's at 5K.
13:09Dobbs, even before Matt Collins left last week's game, was clearly dominating the targets, dominating the production.
13:15In this receiving room, had about half of his volume and production even before Hollins left.
13:20He's led the team in first free targets in two of three games without A.J.
13:25Brown. So Dobbs, to me, is clearly the only pass catcher I have that much interest in.
13:31So I think May to Dobbs, skinny is fine.
13:34I'd probably rather play this game from the other side with Kirk Cousins, Brock Bowers.
13:39I think you get really fun leverage on Trey McFry and Jacoby Brissett.
13:43It's like a $200 difference in salary. Everybody's going to play the Cardinals version of that stack.
13:49Just stuff that I think about is mostly I prefer to be on the Raiders side of this if I'm playing the passing games.
13:57Yeah, that makes sense. And to that point, Raiders did open up this season with two pretty easy opponents.
14:03They easily held Miami down in week one. Then they beat up on the Chargers.
14:08Last two weeks, they've given up 27 and 30 points to the Saints and the Chiefs.
14:13I think that's definitely directionally where this team is headed, like this spot for the Patriots.
14:19And like Ryan just said, I think this game has plenty of avenues to shoot out.
14:24I have gone back and forth on this next game all week.
14:28I really could see this game going for 50.
14:31I could also see this game scoring like, I don't know, like 33 points.
14:36There's like a huge range of outcomes here. Vikings and the Saints.
14:40Vikings are small one-and-a-half point favorites going into New Orleans.
14:43Over-under is 42-and-a-half. On the injury side of things, Justin Jefferson should be back.
14:48He's been limited in practice all week. It didn't seem like this ankle injury he sustained a couple weeks ago was too serious.
14:55On the Saints side, Alvin Kamara is questionable. But Jeff Mueller thinks he's fine, thinks he plays.
15:01It's just a minor back injury. We don't really care about the Saints running backs anyway.
15:06It's really just about their pass game. Scott, I'll throw it to you for your thoughts on the Vikings here.
15:13Kyler has been awful to start this season. There's no two ways about it.
15:18He's got basically bottom five in any efficiency metric that matters.
15:21However, I'm leaving the light on for him. I mean, you know, he's only played like 15 snaps with Justin Jefferson this year.
15:29I know the matchup was good last week against Miami, and he failed.
15:33This is another good matchup, though. Saints are like a bottom eight secondary by, you know, pretty much any way you slice it.
15:41What do you think of the Vikings' offense here, man?
15:44Yeah, I'm just stealing Ryan's take from our projections call.
15:47But he was like, I know I should be on Kyler here, but I just, it's so gross.
15:53I can't do it. It is, you know, like we haven't really seen Kyler, you know, like in all his glory, fully healthy, Justin Jefferson.
16:02It's a very winnable matchup. Play volume should be excellent.
16:05And I don't know. I just, it's hard to get me there.
16:09I will say Aaron Jones, I do think is interesting.
16:12Over the last two weeks, he's what? Top five in snap share, top five in XFP per game.
16:18This is on paper a best possible matchup. The Saints are giving up the most fantasy points per game to running backs.
16:26I will say the caveat there is like, it's a lot of Jameer Gibbs and Bijon Robinson.
16:31Or was it Kenneth Walker and Bijon doing the heavy lifting?
16:35So, and it's Aaron Rod, it's Aaron Jones. He's like old and just like grimaces after every hit he takes.
16:42The only player in the NFL who averages more trips to the blue medical tent per game is Jackson Dart.
16:48Aaron Jones, Aaron Jones is easily number two. I, every time, every time he gets tackled, like he gets up, he grimaces.
16:56And I just feel like he says, I'm getting too old for this shit.
17:00Like he's in lethal weapon three. But he is, he is our number two value of the week point per dollar behind Braylon Allen.
17:08He's, he's a really good play. It's just at 6,500.
17:12I think I'd rather play Chase Brown and DeAndre Swift, who I don't think we've updated the, yeah, we haven't updated the DeAndre.
17:19So yeah, much preferred DeAndre Swift and Chase Brown personally.
17:23But our projections right now have it Aaron Jones.
17:26Yeah. Once projections update, I'm going to be with you.
17:29Swift is one of the best plays on this slate.
17:32Shout out to Aaron Jones. We followed each other on Twitter his entire career.
17:37I remember I loved him as a prospect and I was saying a bunch of nice, nice things about him on Twitter
17:44and he followed me a couple of years ago.
17:47Bro, you know, you know, Brett has the exact same story.
17:51Yeah. Really? Buddy is the DM'd a bunch. Nice.
17:54Yeah. He seems like a real one. I need to see Aaron Jones bring back the sombrero.
17:59I haven't seen him rock the sombrero in quite some time.
18:03I'm with you though, Scott. He's a good play, but I much prefer DeAndre Swift.
18:08Just that run game for the Bears is just on fire right now.
18:12And Swift off the injury report should be full go.
18:16The reason I've gone back and forth on this game so often is the Saints side of things, right?
18:22Like, you know, this offense is just unbelievable in terms of producing volume.
18:26Tyler Shuck is certainly not unbelievable. He's not playing particularly well, but the Saints are third in raw pass rate.
18:33They're first in pace, second in plays per game.
18:36Ryan, help me out, man. Help me kind of like finalize my thoughts on the Saints here.
18:42I've went through a similar cycle on the Saints this week.
18:45At first, when I dig into kind of the overall matchups, it's, hey, the Vikings play a ton of two high looks.
18:53They are getting the highest pressure rate generated in the NFL this year.
18:57All of that's really, really bad historically for Chris Olave, Juwan Johnson, Devon Ville.
19:02Even Tyler Shuck against two high looks sees his deep throw rate fall from one of the highest in the league to a very mediocre number, 10.8%, right?
19:11So I'm initially inclined to say, okay, whatever. This is the week we don't have to be on the Saints.
19:18But then you look at the slate. And to me, so much of this slate is about what is the stack that
19:25can actually beat the Detroit, Arizona game in any possible universe.
19:29And while it's a worst possible matchup, to me, Tyler Shuck and the Saints is like one of the better answers to
19:36that just because they can get it done in garbage time to such an unbelievable degree.
19:41We have been comparing Tyler Shuck to Blake Bortles for weeks now.
19:45As you've mentioned, it's just league highs in pace of play, dropbacks per game, all of these stats that eventually like you
19:52surely the Flores defense will get tired out by the fourth quarter, right?
19:57It's definitely not a sure thing. But I think with with all these guys being priced up, ownership is off the Saints pretty completely.
20:05Nobody is showing double digit percent ownership for us right now.
20:08And that might just be wrong. It's definitely wrong.
20:11If you just look at expected fantasy points per game, Chris Olave, even at seven, 7,700 is still a top three XFP per dollar value on the slate.
20:21He's at 24 expected fantasy points per game this year.
20:24Juwan Johnson, even up at 4,500 is the number one XFP per dollar value on this slate, which is absurd.
20:31He's averaging nearly 16 expected fantasy points per game.
20:34So all you really need is for this Saints defense to fail against the Vikings and for there just to be enough
20:41give at the end of the game, whether it's meaningful production or not for real life.
20:46I am pretty interested in going to Shuck plus Olave plus Juwan Johnson as kind of a contrarian stack that, again, I
20:54think it's one of the few doubles that could compete with your Cardinals or Lions double of choice.
21:00Yeah. I mean, Olave has just been live for the DK bonus like every single week, just because he's so good.
21:07The volume is so good. So, all right, Ryan, you've convinced me to, to, to maybe bump Shuck a couple of spots
21:14up in the DFS rankings this week. I like that call quite a bit.
21:19And, you know, if Kyler can kind of take a step forward with playing with Justin Jefferson, I do think this game
21:26has some pretty decent avenues to shoot out, even though the total is pretty middling here.
21:31Speaking of middling totals, let's move on to the Browns and the Jets.
21:35Jets are two and a half point favorites. This total is gross, 39 and a half on the injury front.
21:42The Browns will not have interior defensive lineman Mason Graham.
21:45That's big news because he is an absolute stud.
21:48And this run defense has been pretty bad to start this season, even with him.
21:53And on the Jets side, no AD Mitchell. Once again, I'm pretty sure he had surgery on, you know, one of his fingers.
22:01We don't really have full details on that, but Mason Taylor, their tight end is back, which will kill a little bit of the steam on Kenyon Sadiq.
22:10Scott, this is a second straight week. I think we've been a little interested in this Browns passing offense.
22:17Deshaun Watson, KC Concepcion are very, very cheap on draft games.
22:20And Quinshawn Judkins is in play, I think, for maybe the first time this season.
22:25What do you think of the Browns? Yeah, I wouldn't say anyone's in play for me.
22:31Just I don't make too many lineups. It's a 40 point over under, second lowest on the week.
22:37For the MME bros, I'll say KC Concepcion is a little interesting.
22:41Like you said, this Browns passing attack is a lot more viable than we were giving it credit for.
22:47Jets are top three in blitz rate. KCC has really been the guy when Deshaun Watson has been blitzed.
22:53And then with Quinshawn Judkins, it's the stat I had.
22:57It's been over a full calendar year since the last time he hit 4.0 yards per carry.
23:02But it is a top five matchup on paper.
23:05He is RB 13 by XFP per game. Career high target volume last week.
23:10Maybe that sticks. And this is actually just like a mid-range RB1 type of volume.
23:15And yeah, so he's in play, certainly for the MME bros.
23:18But me personally, I think I'd rather just kind of wash my hands of this game.
23:24Yeah, it could be a gross one for sure.
23:27There's no doubt about it. Ryan, I'm curious if you have any other different thoughts on the Jets.
23:33Obviously, they just came off one of the worst games that we've seen in the last couple years.
23:39They just could not sustain drives. However, this is a much better spot.
23:43Jets are slight favorites. I definitely am into Braylon Allen.
23:46I think he's one of my favorite plays on the slate.
23:50I mentioned off the top, no Mason Graham for the Browns.
23:54And this Cleveland run defense has been really bad to start the year.
23:58Yeah, I'm actually kind of excited to play two players on the Jets this week, as gross as that should sound.
24:05Obviously, the big problem last week was they just ran only 32 plays, which was the second fewest of any offense in
24:12any game over the last five years. Only like one game with the Raiders has any team run fewer than that recently.
24:20But against the Browns, I think that could bounce back very quickly.
24:24The Browns are allowing 64 plays per game to opposing offenses right now.
24:28That's literally double the number that the Jets ran last week.
24:32As you mentioned, this Browns run defense is very suspect.
24:35They are bottom seven in EPA per run allowed.
24:38They have surrendered the fifth highest rushing success rate, second highest explosive run rate.
24:43That's pretty interesting for Braylon Allen when he's only 5,400.
24:46And he, since Brees Hall went down, has handled every single touch that the Jets have given to their backfield.
24:5394% snap share last week. Top five among running backs in XFP per team play, which again, the team play number is very low.
25:01But all it takes is for that to bounce back anywhere close to normal for Braylon to just be amazing.
25:07He's been used in all high value situations at the goal line as a pass catcher this year.
25:13I think he's just the Jets clear RB1 while Brees is out.
25:17And if the field is kind of congregating to Mike Washington, I think Allen is actually going to be one of my favorite cheap running backs this week.
25:26Aside from that, Garrett Wilson, also you have to be interested.
25:30It's an amazing schematic matchup for him. The Browns have continued to play a ton of man coverage.
25:36And Wilson sees a 78% efficiency boost against man over the past two seasons.
25:41Denzel Ward hasn't followed any wide receiver on more than 50% of their routes this year.
25:46So I'm not really worried about the shadow in that sense.
25:50Overall, the Browns are a fringe top 12 matchup for outside wide receivers.
25:54So it's a strong spot for Wilson where he could, again, continue to consolidate targets.
25:59Browns are bottom three against the deep ball. And Wilson's seventh best in air yard share among all wide receivers this week.
26:06I think he's a legit strong play, even with some ownership coming on.
26:11So I really like those two guys. I think you could throw darts at Kenyon, Sadiq, Geno Smith.
26:17Probably not my favorite way. Probably not my favorite game to try to get different here and stack it up.
26:23But I do think Wilson, Braylon are both good as one-offs.
26:27Yeah, Wilson's certainly a strong play. I'm with you.
26:30There's two very, very good 6K receivers on DraftKings, and Wilson is one of them.
26:35We'll get to the other Wilson a little bit later in the show.
26:39I think that'll cover this game here, guys. We'll go on to the Colts and the Steelers.
26:45Steelers are small two-and-a-half point favorites at home. This over-under is 44-and-a-half.
26:49A couple injury notes, they're pretty minor here. Keenan Allen's questionable.
26:53He had a limited practice this week. On the Steelers side, I think Michael Pittman might be headed to IR.
26:59He has a foot or a toe injury that's just kept nagging.
27:03And speaking of toe injuries, Rico Dowdle is questionable to play.
27:07If he does not play, obviously we'll get Jalen Warren in another bell cow role.
27:12Scott, I'll throw it to you for your thoughts on the Colts.
27:16Is it just JT or Bust this week? Yeah, I think so.
27:20I think it has to be. Daniel Jones is just totally cooked.
27:24Our charters are saying that. Brett's saying that. Bottom five and everything.
27:28And it's so much worse without Alec Pierce stretching the defenses.
27:31You can really just stack the box, which is where Josh Downs is at his best.
27:37Tyler Warren's at his best. And obviously you're always worried about Jonathan Taylor.
27:41The argument you make is like this. They know this entire offense lives and dies on Jonathan Taylor.
27:47He should get 30 touches in this game that they're projected to win.
27:51And we know Jonathan Taylor in wins is the most valuable player in all of fantasy.
27:57It's he averages what? 12 fantasy points per game more in wins than losses.
28:01Nearly 30 fantasy points per game. And so there's that.
28:05But honestly, I think Pittsburgh wins this game. So that's my call.
28:09I think Jonathan Taylor is still in play. But there's a lot of running backs I like this week.
28:15Yeah, and I think that's the thing with Taylor.
28:18You know, he's going to be like RB7, RB8 in ownership this week, which makes him very interesting for tournaments.
28:25He always carries a huge ceiling. And Scott, you're right.
28:28Yeah, there's always game script concerns with Taylor just based on his splits.
28:32But I mean, bro, he's playing every snap. It's an 85% snap share.
28:37So, yeah, Daniel Jones is cooked. This offense is not very good.
28:41But Taylor's playing every single snap. Speaking of playing every single snap, Jalen Warren is going to get a full-blown bell cow roll.
28:48Ryan, he's just 6,700. I kind of disagree with Scott.
28:51I actually picked the Colts to win this game, even though their offense has been so bad.
28:57I just don't really have a whole lot of trust in the Steelers' offense at this point.
29:03That said, though, Jalen Warren is going to project as one of the best, maybe the best point-per-dollar running backs on this slate if Rico Dattles sits again.
29:12Yeah, we're just waiting on Rico Dattles news. He's, I believe he's officially questionable.
29:17It might be fake questionable. Not entirely sure. If he doesn't play, then yeah, as you mentioned, Warren's going to be one of the best point-per-dollar values.
29:26Once again, not a whole lot new about that.
29:29He's, without doubt, just been playing nearly every snap.
29:32He's been one of the most efficient running backs in the NFL per touch by missed tackles, four yards after contact, as he's been his entire career.
29:41So with no doubt, I think Warren is a strong play at 6,700.
29:45Colts also tend to allow everything to funnel underneath, where Jalen Warren has the highest target share of any player on the
29:52Steelers within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage at 21%.
29:56So more checkdowns from Aaron Rodgers. That could be a winning formula.
30:00If Dowdle plays, Warren's just a bit riskier. I would be fairly ownership sensitive to that.
30:05I'd imagine Warren still maintains the lead role just because he's played so well.
30:10But it was a true 50-50 split before Dowdle got injured.
30:14So that's just something to watch heading into the weekend.
30:17And yeah, check out Scott and John Proctor's show on Sunday morning in Discord if you are a subscriber.
30:23The wide receivers are a little more interesting for the Steelers.
30:27DK Metcalf's down at 5,400. He projects as a solid point-per-dollar value.
30:31I've said this about DK Metcalf a lot, but he actually did finally give us some production.
30:37Last week went for 115 yards. I think he's okay.
30:40I think Roman Wilson is a much better play than him, though.
30:44Wilson at 3,700. Going to be one of my favorite wide receiver punts on the slate.
30:49So he was up at an 85% route share in week two without Michael Pittman, and Pittman is not going to play this weekend.
30:57Over the last two weeks, despite being a part-time player, Roman Wilson has only one fewer first read target than Metcalf, and
31:04that's also despite Aaron Rodgers just ignoring him for a quarter and a half after he had a bad drop, but went
31:12right back to him the following week in week four.
31:15And Roman Wilson has only 55 fewer air yards than DK Metcalf this year.
31:20You get a massive price discount right now by projected ownership.
31:23You get an ownership discount. I am enamored with Wilson as one of the better punt options here.
31:29Can we tag team this, Ryan? Do you mind sharing?
31:33Yeah, go for it. Yeah, thank you. So Roman Wilson, I'm in love with this week.
31:38I want to ladder bet Roman Wilson. I want to go all in on Roman Wilson as one of the best plays of the slate.
31:46Remember earlier this offseason, we were talking about the Mike McCarthy slot role and how his slot wide receiver had finished as
31:54a fantasy wide receiver one over 50% of the time, which is insane.
31:58Like even if you factor in the talent and whatnot, it's just like, bro, it's like who's finished as a fantasy wide
32:05receiver one over 50% of the time? Devontae Adams and no one else.
32:10So he is that. He is the slot receiver.
32:13He has 91% of his yards have come from the slot.
32:16He has 17 slot targets. Fryermuth is 10. No one else has more than three.
32:21He's separating at an unbelievable rate. He has three of Pittsburgh's four best ass weeks.
32:26He's had 60 plus yards and a touchdown in back-to-back weeks.
32:30Nearly four yards per route run over that span.
32:33Just about everyone else is under one. He averages 2.7 yards per route run against Mann.
32:38A full yard better than anyone else. Colts play Mann at a top seven rate.
32:43So like what's the concern here? What's the trick?
32:46What's the red flag? And that's that inexplicably, he was down to a 38% route share last week.
32:52By snap share, it was 30%. And over the last two weeks, he's behind two tight ends, three wide receivers.
32:59But will you look at that? No Michael Pittman in week two.
33:03He had an 85% route share. So the only concern was playing time.
33:07No longer a concern. Still heavy out of the slot in that week two game.
33:12And it's... Oh, did I bury the lead? The Colts are giving up the most yards per game to the slot.
33:19No other team is giving up more yards per game to the slot than the Colts.
33:24So this confluence of factors, guys have been balling out.
33:28It's the slot role. The offense is centered around the slot.
33:31It's a perfect matchup for the slot. I really like Roman Wilson this week.
33:36Yeah, the only other thing I'll add is he's 3,700.
33:39Dante Myers is 35. And Myers, if T. Higgins sits, is going to push 25% to 30% ownership.
33:45Right now, we're projecting Roman Wilson for 2%. So he is an incredible contrarian play for all the reasons that Scott and Ryan teed up.
33:54I like that quite a bit. This next game I don't like at all.
33:58It's Texans and the Titans. Texans are seven and a half point favorites going into Nashville.
34:04This over-under is 37 and a half. The Titans have a 15-point implied team total despite the Texans.
34:10I mean, honestly, they've got just an average defense right now.
34:13Maybe even slightly below average. Houston is pretty clean on the injury front.
34:18Only note I have on the Titans side is Cardinal Tate popped up with a back injury Thursday.
34:23It just seems like his back tightened up. It's no big deal.
34:27He's a little interesting in this game. Scott, I'll throw to you for your thoughts on the Texans side of things.
34:34It's really just Nico Collins or Bust this week, man.
34:38Yeah, well, you nailed it. He has a career high in XFP per game, 18.6.
34:43And CJ Stroud ranks second among all quarterbacks in catchable air yards per game.
34:47People need to put some respect on CJ Stroud's name, man.
34:51He looks good. He's been much better this year.
34:54I needed to. I needed to, really. And so that was always the issue with Nico Collins is elite per route efficiency.
35:01And it's just on an offense with a really good defense that doesn't drop back too often.
35:07So the quarterback's not too accurate. Well, guess what?
35:10The defense sucks. They're dropping back a lot. And the quarterback's more accurate than he's ever been.
35:16So, and they really have no one else. So, yeah, I think he's really interesting.
35:21Ryan could probably speak to the schematic matchup. I'm not sure I actually look too deep into it.
35:27Because the bottom line here is this is the lowest over under of the year.
35:32So you could just totally wash your hands of this game.
35:35Yeah. Would not blame you if you did that in the DFS streets this week.
35:40We've been pretty much washing our hands of this Titans offense all year.
35:45Carnel Tate, though, Ryan, did have a little bit of life last week against the Ravens.
35:50He had a very, very nice game. He's like dominating, you know, in terms of market share.
35:56He's dominating the volume in this offense. It's just not particularly valuable because Cam Ward is really struggling.
36:02What do you think of Carnel Tate here at 5300 or any other Titans that you have any interest in this week?
36:09I don't have interest in anyone other than Tate, but I have a lot of interest in Tate.
36:15I think he's legit a pretty intriguing play. I wasn't around for these days, but in the old days of DFS, but
36:22I'm told, hey, it used to be that ownership would legitimately point chase after a blow up game.
36:28Especially from a receiver like Carnel Tate, who's a rookie.
36:31People get excited right now. We're showing 7% ownership.
36:34No one is reacting that hard to what we just saw from Tate.
36:39I think maybe we should. This is so far this year, a strong matchup for opposing wide receivers.
36:45Texans are allowing the second most schedule adjusted the second most yards per game on the deep ball.
36:51Tate's leading the NFL in air yard share. I understand that's on the Titans, but that is still something.
36:57He's clearly the receiver that will be attacking downfield.
37:00And ultimately what it is for me is through his initial four games, Tate ranks third best among all rookie wide receivers
37:07over the past five years in first read target share.
37:11Only Puka Nakua Malik neighbors have had a higher first read target share through the first month of their rookie season.
37:18We can play Tate with little ownership at 5,300 when a month from now there's at least a chance that we're looking
37:25back on this and saying, wow, we could play the highest drafted wide receiver prospect who is currently smashing against what we
37:32now know is a weaker defense and no one else was playing him.
37:37Like, why didn't we all do that? I don't want that regret.
37:41I have the FOMO on Carnell Tate. So I'm playing him this week.
37:45I think he's at least as good a play as Nico, if not better at salary and ownership.
37:51So, yeah, I mean, it all comes down to Cam Ward and if he can take a step forward, because like I
37:58said, I mean, the role in this offense is so freaking good.
38:02I mean, they're just not throwing the ball really to anybody else.
38:06Like Ryan's notes quite a bit on Carnell Tate.
38:09Let's get to the final game of the 1 p.m.
38:12slate. And this is honestly maybe my second favorite game on this 11 game slate.
38:17This game could be a lot of fun. Giants and the Commanders.
38:21Commanders are three and a half point favorites. They're going to get Jayden Daniels back.
38:26But, yeah, Stephon Diggs is out. Terry McLaurin is questionable to play.
38:30He didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday. I have not seen official designation on him just yet, but it seems like he was limited on Friday.
38:39He might give it a chance to go. Giants are pretty clean on the injury side.
38:44Scott, and you get to talk about your Giants.
38:47Jameis Winston had a nice game this past week.
38:50Really had a nice bounce back. Malik Neighbors also had a strong game.
38:54I'm looking at this from like a couple of angles.
38:58Like, yeah, Jayden Daniels is back. This offense for the Commanders should be better.
39:02And Jameis games are just fun. Like, he just, you know, he's going to score touchdowns.
39:08He's also going to turn the ball over to the other team.
39:12His games are always kind of up in pace and play volume.
39:16I like this game from a number of angles, but it really kind of does start with the Jameis factor.
39:22And mix in the fact that this Washington defense is still terrible.
39:26I have no idea what Dan Quinn does over there in Washington, but it's definitely not built a good defense.
39:33Giants should be able to score and move the ball pretty well in this spot.
39:38What do you think of the Giants, dude? So, yeah, Malik Neighbors was really encouraged by his performance last week.
39:45Ryan Heath tweeted it out. It was his first game over 0.00 ass, and it was, I don't know, top 25 on the week.
39:53He gets a Commanders defense that ranks dead last in fantasy points per game allowed to outside wide receivers.
39:59There was also the report of him chirping at the sideline, demanding the ball.
40:03That was one of the reasons why I was so high on him coming into the year before the shoulder injury.
40:10Is, yeah, he's a bit of an a-hole. He threw Dable under the bus and was like, I need me my double-digit targets every week.
40:19You love that for fantasy. It's a really good schematic matchup.
40:22It's too high. It's cover four. It's a blitz-heavy defense.
40:26It's all the things that typically, you know, boost his target per route run, yards per route run.
40:32So, yeah, I mean, that's the case for him.
40:35I'll be honest. I'm kind of more into Isaiah Likely just factoring in the salary.
40:40Commanders also giving up the fifth most fantasy points per game to tight ends.
40:44He has a 30% target share. That doesn't just lead all tight ends.
40:49It leads all players except for JSN and Puka.
40:52And red zone target share, he leads all players.
40:55And, yeah, so it's the only issue with that is, like, dude, Trey McBride is an insane play.
41:01Sam Laporte is an insane play. And if you want to fade that game, George Kittle is even better.
41:07So I probably don't get to either of these guys.
41:10But I certainly see the case for them, perhaps especially on Jaden Daniels builds, which I know Ryan Heath likes.
41:17I do like them. I think Jaden Daniels is one of the better contrarian quarterback plays of the slate.
41:23He's only 6K. This guy averages 22.7 DK over 21 full games in his career.
41:28That would rank behind only Josh Allen since he entered the league.
41:32Averages 51 rushing yards per game. In that split.
41:3550 rushing yards per game this year. It hasn't changed at all.
41:39Historically, he hasn't really stopped running after he's returned from injuries.
41:43Our injury expert, Jeff Muller, is not really worried about re-injury risk for Daniels just in terms of rushing around or getting hit.
41:50He says it's really just is Daniels going to do the exact same thing where he reaches his arm out and braces his elbow.
41:58So that's how he sees him getting into trouble.
42:01But for fantasy, in terms of risk management here when nobody's playing him, I think that I think that's a great play.
42:09What's also fun is that his receivers are cheap.
42:12Stefan Diggs likely out here. But Antonio Williams, only 3,800.
42:15He's up there with Roman Wilson for me, even as a one-off punt in terms of one of the most interesting ones on the slate.
42:23Last week, he was up at a 73% route share.
42:27Only one fewer target than Stefan Diggs. Had a long 87-yard touchdown called back.
42:31Williams has looked awesome. He's made a lot of plays in limited playing time this week.
42:37He finally got up to a full-time role last week with McLaurin out.
42:41Don't see why that shouldn't stick with Diggs out and McLaurin potentially in.
42:45And speaking of McLaurin, yeah, he's banged up. It's not a good schematic matchup for him, but he's 5,300.
42:52That's too cheap for Terry McLaurin, at least in the context of you can play him with Jaden Daniels.
42:58That was one of the most efficient QB to wide receiver single stacks back in 2024.
43:03Won a ton of tournaments. I really like the Commanders this week.
43:07I think the Jameis side of this game is also fun, kind of as Scott outlined.
43:13I think he's vaguely in play too. But yeah, this Commander side with Jaden Daniels is my preferred way to go for it.
43:20Yeah, I mean, Daniels is going to push for like 3% ownership, man.
43:25I mean, he's going to be very, very low owned on the slate.
43:29I like that call quite a bit. When he came back last year, I mean, he was running, you know?
43:36Like there's really going to be no doc at all in his projection.
43:40And I think you mentioned Antonio Williams is an awesome play.
43:43I mean, he's looked incredible this season. All of his per route efficiency metrics on a small sample, albeit do look very,
43:51very good and very promising so far. So yeah, I'm with you, Ryan, on that.
43:56And Ryan, thank you for catching me. We do have one more 1 p.m.
44:00game. I have this listed as a 4 o'clock game for some reason.
44:05Bears and the Packers. Bears are 2.5 point favorites going into Lambeau.
44:09Over-under is 45.5. Injury news is a big one here.
44:12Kyle Manungai has a toe injury, and he could be out multiple weeks at this point.
44:17DeAndre Swift, we mentioned earlier in the show, or at least Scott did, I think.
44:22DeAndre Swift is going to project as one of the best plays on the slate.
44:27Packers injury news real quick. Chris Brooks is out.
44:30Who cares? This Packers backfield is completely dead. But Bears, man, DeAndre Swift is going to project incredibly well when our guy Chris updates the projections.
44:39Scott, you know, he's 6,200. He's going to get, what, 90% of this backfield XFP.
44:44Roshan Johnson has just, like, not been a thing for the Bears since Ben Johnson took over.
44:50What do you think of Swift, and what do you think of this Chicago offense here, man?
44:55Yeah, I'm really into Swift. I'm not so much into anyone else, but I'm really, really into Swift.
45:01If you pull up the Bell Cow report, you can look at all backfields by total XFP, and you'll see the Chicago
45:09Bears are, like, I don't know, 20 points ahead of anyone else.
45:13And that was kind of Ben Johnson's M.O. with the Lions, right?
45:17And the only issue was it was typically, like, a near-perfectly-even 50-50 split backfield.
45:21And so you have, what, two mid-range RB1s instead of one Jameer Gibbs, right?
45:26And now injuries have kind of forced our hands, and I think we see DeAndre Swift in an uber-bell cow role on
45:33a Ben Johnson offense in a top-three matchup. And, yeah, I think I'm just going to hit that lock button unless news comes out to argue otherwise.
45:42But I kind of don't see that happening. I'm with you on that.
45:46I think he's just like you play him and, you know, just go way over the field.
45:52Whatever is projected ownership ends up being, I would expect, maybe 20% to 25%.
45:57I want to be massively overweight on that. It's because, Ryan, you've been saying this, I think, as well.
46:03I mean, this Packers defense is just really bad, and they're really bad against the run.
46:08They're, like, bottom five in terms of their P-row allowed, meaning they're giving up just, you know, a lot more runs than we would expect.
46:17And I've been saying this for a number of weeks.
46:20I mean, Ben Johnson might be the best coach I've ever seen at designing a run game.
46:26He's going to have DeAndre Swift, you know, getting potentially 30 carries in this game here, man.
46:31What do you think of the Packers side, though, of things?
46:35Matthew Golden is just way too cheap. Your boy Christian Watson is finally correctly priced.
46:40Any interest in this Packers pass game? Because, like I said at the top, we're just, we're pretending the running backs don't exist at this point.
46:49Yeah, so I think the only way it makes sense to play the Packers is as at least a double stack.
46:56And you just say, hey, every single game they're going to have to throw a ton because they have no run game.
47:03It is definitely in the realm of possibility that the Bears get up big on them early and we get a bunch of drop back volume again.
47:12I think that thesis has been intact for the Packers basically every week this season.
47:17It certainly is again this week. So, yeah, it's up there in terms of double stacks that can compete with Lions Cardinals.
47:24That's there for me. I'd probably rank it behind the Saints, behind the Commanders in terms of my excitement level.
47:31But, yeah, as you mentioned, Matthew Golden, a strong value seeing more volume than Christian Watson.
47:36I wouldn't count Watson out. He's just an efficiency freak, always has been.
47:40But Tucker Craft now is a piece we have to contend with, which makes this a little bit more difficult.
47:47I think if it was clear who the double stack was, I might like it a little bit more.
47:53But Craft is only 4,700. He is getting a matchup here where the Bears have been top five in single high looks.
48:01Craft has easily the highest yards per outrun against single high.
48:04He's about twice as efficient against single high, dating back to the start of last season.
48:10And last week we finally saw the role that's kind of been building week after week.
48:15Pay off with a team high 25% first read target share.
48:19He dropped another touchdown in the end zone. Could have had an even bigger day than the 16 and a half fantasy points that he did score.
48:28So I think if I'm playing a Packers stack, Craft would definitely be one of the pieces.
48:33I would alternate between Matthew Golden, Christian Watson, aside from that.
48:37Yeah, I think that's really the only thing worth mentioning on this side of it, though.
48:42You're obviously not going to the running game. Yeah, do not do not do that.
48:47Do not inflict pain on yourself. There's no reason to be a masochist here.
48:52Let's move on to the four o'clock slate. Only three games on the four o'clock slate in this Broncos Chargers game will start us off.
49:00Broncos are three and a half points favorites going into Los Angeles over under his 42 and a half.
49:07On the Broncos side for injuries, Pat Bryant is unfortunately going to go on IR.
49:12Bryant looked like he was going to have like a little bit of a breakout here, but he is injured.
49:18And their corners are in rough shape. Passer Tan is going to miss this game.
49:23And I think Riley Moss also might miss this game.
49:26He fractured his ribs. He is questionable. Broncos are in a rough spot, but the Chargers are way worse off.
49:33Joe Walt and Rashawn Slater are out. Slater might miss the rest of this year.
49:38He needed tightrope ankle surgery. And yeah, Ladd McConkie is hurt.
49:42He has a foot injury. Didn't practice all week.
49:45He tried to play last week, and I think they lifted him in like the third quarter of the game last week.
49:52He is just not even close to 100%. Scott, this game is pretty gross, man.
49:57It's pretty gross. Sean Payton is going to take over the play calling duties from Davis Webb.
50:03I'm not really surprised at all with that because Payton is just a control freak, and this offense has been so bad.
50:10I wrote it up as like, this could be a squeaky wheel spot for Jalen Waddell, but I'll be honest.
50:17I really don't have much else on the Broncos side.
50:20I'm curious if you have any other thoughts on Denver, the best DFS plays on this offense here.
50:26Yeah. I mean, it really should be. Like, it's egregious.
50:29Someone should be in jail for the fact that RJ Harvey leads the team in target share.
50:35Waddell and Sutton both have only one game over 35 receiving yards all year.
50:40The schematic matchup, by the way, way better for RJ Harvey than it is for Jalen Waddell in this spot.
50:46And Brett, the Charters, are all saying it's actually not really Dragon Webb's fault.
50:51It's more so on Bo Nix, who's just playing awful.
50:54He's just not seeing open guys. He just constantly hits the check down.
50:59I think Ryan said someone tweeted out that Bo Nix was going through his progressions performatively only.
51:04You know, just – and, yeah, it's bad. So I kind of just want to fade this entire game personally.
51:11Yeah, I think I'm with you. I think this game is a little more gross than that Browns-Jets game or even maybe Texans-Titans.
51:18I mean, Bo Nix last year, he had the same off-target throw rate as Caleb Williams, and this year it's been more of the same.
51:27Like, all of our charted accuracy numbers are really bad on him.
51:31I tend to agree that Nix is kind of the main problem at this point.
51:36All of that said, there's a lot of problems with this Chargers team, Ryan.
51:40It's Justin Herbert not playing particularly well. The receivers can't separate.
51:44Lads now hurt, and now they're going to miss both of their tackles against a really good Broncos pass rush.
51:51It is scary out here for this Chargers offense, man.
51:54Yeah, that was every stat that all of us were constantly posting in the offseason is, hey, look at the Chargers offense
52:01when they've had Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater. This could be really fun this year, and obviously it wasn't even with them,
52:09but yeah, I think all hope has just kind of been extinguished with the two of them out now.
52:15The only potential plays here are just a couple of punts.
52:19Neither are particularly exciting to me. One is Trey Harris at 4,100.
52:23Clearly has led the Chargers in usage, should lead them in routes and everything with McConkie out.
52:28I think he's clearly worse than Roman Wilson, Antonio Williams, Dante Myers, all of the other value options that we have at the position on this slate.
52:37I don't know. Can I talk you back into a Rondé Gadson?
52:41He's 3,600. Hey, he led the team in targets last week.
52:45Don't look at what the production was. That's not important, but he sure did lead the team in targets.
52:51The only kind of schematic note I had here was that the Broncos are allowing the fourth most receiving yards per game
52:58within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Gadson had a 5.7 ADOT last week.
53:03That's kind of where he's been dominating usage in that area of the field.
53:08Trey Harris, more downfield, 13.5 ADOT over the last three weeks.
53:12So if I'm forced to choose between one of them to punt, it's Gadson, but ultimately I'm not playing either of them most likely.
53:20Yeah, I think I mentioned this to you, Ryan.
53:23I don't know if I really want to hear a Rondé Gadson's name ever again, to be honest with you.
53:29He's truly in Rondé. Shout out to you, Trey, for calling out the Ponzi scheme for what he is.
53:36Yeah, this offense, this game is just pretty brutal, man.
53:39I really don't have much else to add. Let's move on to the best game of the week, though.
53:45Maybe the best game of the season so far, Lions and the Cardinals.
53:50Lions are 5.5 point favorites going into Arizona over under.
53:5354.5, baby. Lions are implied for 30 points this week.
53:56A couple injury notes. Jeremiah Love is fine. He would have gotten into limited practice all week.
54:02I believe I just saw a tweet. He's cleared to play.
54:06No real other notes in this game, though. So, Scott, you get the best task of cashing points.
54:12We gave you the task here of taking this Lions offense and DraftKings correctly, finally priced up Jameer Gibbs.
54:18We've just been calling him like lock button of the century every single week.
54:23He's now 9,800, and I think you wrote it up.
54:26This kind of feels like a Le'Veon Bell, David Johnson type situation from all those years ago.
54:32You just jam these guys in, and it feels the same way with Gibbs this week.
54:37Yeah, well, the headline here is this is the game we all want exposure, whether it's Gibbs, Goff, Amonra, Laporta, Jameson.
54:44It's just this game should go apeshit. The Lions are worst in points per drive allowed, second worst in EPA per play allowed.
54:51They give up the most fantasy points per game to quarterbacks, tight ends, and slot wide receivers.
54:57Arizona's bottom six in points allowed per game, yards per play, points per drive, EPA per play, and fantasy points per game
55:04allowed to quarterbacks, wide receivers, and tight ends. They're both massive pass funnels.
55:09Detroit, second highest P-row allowed. Arizona, second best EPA per run, second worst EPA per drop back.
55:14They're much more exploitable via the pass. And so all this is shaping up to be a mega pass-heavy shootout.
55:21And I typically, when all the ownership's concentrating on one game, I want to be a contrarian.
55:27Because it's not how often you're right, it's how much do you win when you are right.
55:32Where it's typically, you're better off fading this chalkiest game of the slate, going elsewhere.
55:37I don't know that I can do it. But I think I just want to go all in on this game.
55:44It just looks so juicy. It looks so wonderful.
55:47Jared Goff, you know, we typically like to play him in home games.
55:52But you know what's even better than that is Jared Goff in games with an over-under, over 50.
55:58That's always been money. It's a too high, heavy matchup.
56:01Cardinals play too high, 73% of the time. So nearly three quarters of the time.
56:06And guess what? Jared Goff, since 2024, second-best EPA per dropback against too high.
56:11Who is he targeting in too high? Well, that's his guy, Amon Ross St.
56:15Brown. Amon Ross St. Brown has the league's highest target per route run against too high since 2024.
56:21Jamison drops all the way down to wide receiver 99.
56:25Crazy stat is Arizona's playing a ton of too high.
56:28Guess what? They suck ass at it. They're awful.
56:31They're giving up 0.8 fantasy points per dropback allowed for perspective Drake May last year.
56:360.58 fantasy points per dropback led all quarterbacks in his near MVP winning campaign.
56:40And so Arizona's defense or opposing quarterbacks versus Arizona is like orders of magnitude worse than that.
56:46And so, yeah, that's the argument for Jamison Williams.
56:49It's too high. He's not great against too high.
56:52But guess what? Arizona sucks at it. And actually, they're giving up explosive pass plays at the league's highest rate.
56:59That's typically Jamison's bag. He leads the league in drops and dropped air yards.
57:03That's worth somewhere between 16.6 and 58.8 fantasy points lost due to drops.
57:08So he is a major regression guy. Wide receiver 18 by XFP per game outside the top 40 in actual production.
57:15But that's a Brett call. I'm not really there.
57:18Sam Laporta. It's the argument that Ryan Heath was making all offseason.
57:22It's the Drew Petsig role. Sam Laporta in the Trey McBride role.
57:26Sort of, kind of. He averaged 25 routes run per game last year.
57:30He's up to 36 this year. He's basically playing 5.5 quarters instead of everyone else's four quarters per game.
57:36Or at least his four quarters per game last year.
57:40And again, Detroit's Arizona's defense is bottom three to tight ends.
57:43He also gets a bump against too high and cover six.
57:47And yeah, you asked me about Jameer Gibbs. Like I said, how I'm playing it.
57:52I'm going to go Onslaught passing game. Or full fade, probably in a Millie, where I play Jeremiah Love.
57:58Who just makes sense as like the biggest leverage play.
58:02Where it's like low likelihood it hits. So I'm actually not going to end up on Jameer Gibbs.
58:08The way I wrote it up yesterday. You were right, Graham.
58:11I wrote it up as like, I think we're just back in the 2019 McCaffrey vintage Le'Veon Bell days.
58:18Where he's like 10,500. And like he's still the guy you needed to play every single week.
58:23But like I said, it is a pass funnel.
58:26It is. Arizona allows the third fewest adjusted yards before contact per attempt.
58:30The third fewest receiving yards per game to running backs.
58:34And it's really just, hey, he has the highest projection we've ever given to a non-quarterback.
58:39And that's probably rightfully said. Because his red zone role is insane.
58:43He's game script proof. He's awesome. The over-under is massive.
58:46It's just like, as I was building, I just found myself not really ending up there.
58:52For a guy who's really expensive, going to be really highly owned.
58:56But I could certainly see that just a 40-burger coming and just blowing up in my face.
59:01Yeah, we've got enough receiver value on the slate.
59:04And if we get Mike Washington with Ashton Gentry sitting, we're certainly going to have enough value on the slate to get up to Gibbs.
59:13So I'm with you. Really, the only argument against him is he's going to be like 50% to 60% owned.
59:19Because he projects just that good for everybody. But yeah, I mean, it's Jumere Gibbs attached to a 30-point implied team total.
59:27Like, I think the contrarian way to play it in this game, honestly, if you're just building one lineup this week, is
59:34just play Gibbs and then just fade the rest of this game.
59:38Because there are going to be some pieces that are a little over-owned.
59:42I liked all of Scott's analysis on Jameson Williams.
59:45My only thing I'll add is he is the contrarian piece to this game.
59:50He's projecting for under 8% ownership on FanDuel for us here at Fantasy Points.
59:55And he's at 4% on DraftKings. He is definitely overpriced on DraftKings at 5,900.
59:59He's going to come in relatively very under-owned on this game.
60:03Ryan, I'll throw it to you for your thoughts on this Cardinal side.
60:07Jacoby Brissett is just like the stone nuts on FanDuel.
60:11He's 6,800 over there. I think you can make a little bit of an argument against him on DraftKings just because there
60:18are some pretty decent 5K and even 4K quarterbacks on this slate.
60:22That said, he still projects incredibly well. And the stack is so simple.
60:26Michael Wilson is way too cheap. And honestly, man, pound for pound, Trey McBride might be the most mispriced player on this slate.
60:346,700 for him is like a slap in the face.
60:37Yeah, Brissett's a great play. Scott did a really good job setting up the game environment here.
60:43But yeah, just to go over it again, Lions, a top two pass funnel.
60:47Both of these teams are top seven in plays per game.
60:51It's just the most tailor-made shootout that I've seen in a while.
60:55So yeah, of course, Brissett's a good play. 70% of the Cardinals' first read targets have been concentrated in Michael Wilson and Trey McBride.
61:03The schematic matchup is very much in Michael Wilson's favor against cover three.
61:07That's been good for him. Worse for all of the other Cardinals' pieces.
61:12But yeah, the Lions have allowed the most schedule-adjusted fantasy points per game to opposing tight ends.
61:17They're top four in target share allowed to tight ends.
61:21That's basically the same as the Bengals. And that's despite the Lions having faced Jawan Johnson, Dalton Kincaid, Darren Waller, and Canyon
61:28Sadiq as the tight ends against them. And again, they've surrendered a top four target share number to those names.
61:35So yeah, McBride's an insane play at 6,700. The only argument against it, really, and the only argument against this whole game
61:42is that's just way too easy to stack. Everybody's going to do it.
61:46You have to be really intentional on how you get different elsewhere in your lineup if you go that route.
61:53I have a couple ideas. One is Kendrick Bourne, which is insane off the board.
61:58Super galaxy brain. I haven't recorded outside the box with Neil Orfield yet, but I'm looking forward to bringing that name up and seeing Neil's reaction.
62:07That sounds like a Neil Ass play to me.
62:10But Bourne is 3,400. Nobody's going to play him.
62:13As we were talking about, the Lions are one of the biggest slot funnels in the NFL right now.
62:19Most fantasy points per game allowed to opposing slot receivers.
62:22Bourne's been in the slot on 68% of his routes.
62:25He actually has decent games over the last two seasons.
62:29Averages just over nine DraftKings fantasy points per game when he's run at least two-thirds of the routes since last year.
62:36He's done that in every game this year. He's had at least that minimum level of a slot receiver role.
62:42He's gone over 15 DK in three of those 11 games where he's had that role, including once this year.
62:49It's not out of the question to me at all that Kendrick Bourne catches a touchdown or two, and he's one of the best pieces from this game.
62:58Ultimately, it's very much like an MME play. It's kind of hard to get to that in a hand build, but I
63:06thought it was worth a shout, especially given that there are other 3K wide receivers that are going to see ownership on this slate.
63:14I think Bourne's kind of a fun way to get leverage almost in two ways on the other pass catchers from this
63:21game and also on all of the other punts that people are going to be playing.
63:26And then, yeah, it's just Jeremiah Love. He's 6,100.
63:29I was very big on him last week. Graham was not.
63:33That's a point to Graham for not buying into that chalk where, yeah, it went from a full-on Delcow workload in week
63:40three to not at all in week four. Tyler Algier vulturing him at the goal line, playing slightly more snaps, running more routes.
63:48I think it's legit up for debate whether that was because that was just how the Cardinals wanted to deploy their backfield,
63:55if it was because Love got injured mid-game. There were kind of conflicting reports and quotes on that.
64:01He's been on the injury report with an ankle injury.
64:05We were told that it was his other ankle, the opposite side of the one that he injured in the preseason.
64:11So you could look at this and say, hey, a week ago we were all clamoring to play Jeremiah Love in a Belcow workload.
64:19It didn't happen because he got hurt mid-game. Why not do it now when he's leveraged on all of the most popular plays on the slate?
64:28I don't know. I think it's there, certainly from a Millie perspective.
64:32But I think ultimately, even with that being the excuse, it's like Love is still banged up.
64:38It's the longest year of his life, according to him.
64:41They seem to not want to run him into the ground.
64:45They don't have to run him into the ground with Tyler Algier.
64:49So I think you're banking on a couple of long rushing scores from Love to kind of flip this game on its head.
64:56It's possible. I thought I'd mention it, but it's not like one of my top angles on this game.
65:03Yeah, my only pushback with Love, like I agree with your sentiment.
65:07I mean, he's just so much better than Tyler Algier.
65:10It's just it's so weird. They're playing Algier so much more in the pass game.
65:15And I'd be I'd be really excited to play Love in this spot because the Lions could just absolutely smoke the Cardinals.
65:22And if they do, like we would want Love playing all the pass down snaps.
65:27He just has a 33 percent route share. Tyler Algier is at 40 percent.
65:32I just I don't know, man. It's just really tricky.
65:35There's a lot of really good running back plays on this slate.
65:39I think Love is not one of my favorite ones again, but I certainly I certainly think he has some upside because he's just he's so good.
65:48You know, he might only need 15 touches to have 100 yards in this game.
65:53Ryan, I'm going to steal your Kendrick Bourne take.
65:56Like, I'm just going to put this is this is Ryan's Galaxy Brain take into Slate Breakdown.
66:02I like that quite a bit. He's going to be like one percent own.
66:06But, bro, he's got more first read targets than Marvin Harrison.
66:10I think, yeah, I might have more first read targets than Marvin Harrison right now.
66:15All that said, yeah, I like I like that call quite a bit.
66:19I'll put that into Slate Breakdown. Let's get into the final game.
66:23I just want to say one thing on Jeremiah Love.
66:27So, like, the argument for him, just like in a vacuum, is he went from 46 percent of the backfield XFP to 62 percent to 76 percent.
66:36And then all the way down to 50 percent.
66:39He had these weird comments after the game. Maybe he just picked up like a secret injury and he just goes back to 76 percent.
66:47That's the in the vacuum argument. But like I'm saying like that doesn't even matter.
66:52It's really the case for him is you fade.
66:55I'm in Rossi Brown and Jamison Williams and Sam Laporta and Jameer Gibbs.
66:59And you play Jeremiah Love as leverage because on the off chance that this game goes way under.
67:05How does that happen? It's yeah, the Cardinals like the Lions offense somehow doesn't show up in like Jeremiah Love feasts and positive game script.
67:14And so it's just the correlation to that outcome where if that outcome is right, you move past like 60 percent, 70 percent, 80 percent in the field.
67:23And so that's I mean, this is more of the outside the box play for Ryan and Neil tomorrow.
67:29But that's that's really what I see is the argument for.
67:33And again, I don't know how much I'm going to get there.
67:37But if I'm building a not like a lineup without too many Lions, I'm going to think about Jeremiah.
67:43I hear you. I'm just looking at DeAndre Swift is 100 more in my eyes.
67:48My eyes are starry, Scott. I'm sorry. That's fair.
67:51OK, you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I hear all of this.
67:55I get all of this. I think Jeremiah Love is going to be a fantasy RB one very soon.
68:01Let's let's get into this final game of the slate.
68:04The Niners and the Seahawks, obviously the Niners, man.
68:07I mean, they're just running so hot. They're first in EPA per play.
68:12They're second in points per drive. They're second drives ending in a score.
68:16And they're throwing more this year. They're the top six in pass rate over expectation.
68:21All of this has led to Brock Purdy being basically the QB two in fantasy.
68:26He's like it's Josh Allen and a landslide. Then, yeah, Lamar's hurt.
68:30I think there's a legitimate debate that Brock Purdy is the QB two rest of season.
68:35Scott, it's just a really tough matchup. He's got to go into Seattle here.
68:40Seahawks are three point favorites over under is 45 and a half.
68:44Only injury note I have in this game is Mike Evans is playing through cracked ribs.
68:49He did so last week. He ran his normal route share.
68:53He should be good to go. Scott, let's talk through the Niners, man, because Brock Purdy has been awesome.
68:59He's been a print fest for us in season long leagues, print fest in DFS.
69:04This is the one week first week this season where I've kind of like turned my head up a little bit to.
69:12I'm wondering if you think he's just how good of a play is he on this slate?
69:17Because we do have some pretty good pay up quarterbacks between Goff and Burrow at low ownership.
69:23I liked Ryan's analysis on Jane Daniels quite a bit.
69:26And obviously, this is just like a stacked low end quarterback slate.
69:30What do you think of Brock Purdy and the Niners here?
69:34Yeah, you know, I love Brock Purdy. Always been a Brock Purdy guy.
69:38But I just don't see a ceiling outcome coming against the Seahawks and Mike McDonald.
69:43So I'm probably not going there. Christian McCaffrey, same thing.
69:46It's a worst possible matchup. Mike Evans, the stat I had on him was he leads all wide receivers and target share on third down.
69:5546%. So they're targeting nearly half the time on third down, which is crazy.
69:59Especially because he's missing a bunch of time as well.
70:03And then the rest of the time his target share drops to 13%.
70:07What does that say to me? It's like, yeah, we know this guy isn't 100%.
70:12We're scared of him getting hit. So like, let's only use him when we really need him.
70:18And so, yeah, I don't think... By the way, what is he like?
70:22Top five in fantasy points per route run? He's balling out.
70:26He's just, you know, limited. So again, another guy I don't think we're going to see a ceiling outcome.
70:32But a guy I love. Shout out Trey, our producer, the genius behind the scenes.
70:37He said, I expect a Kittle JSN mini to get Scott hot and bothered this week.
70:42And boy, is he right. George Kittle, one of my all-time favorite players, looked amazing last week.
70:48He looked spry. He looked fast on that touchdown run.
70:51And, bro, it's insane. He tore his Achilles in the year 2026.
70:55And it's 2026 right now. Absolutely insane. He looks great.
70:59His route share jumped last week from 51% to 87%.
71:02That's huge for a guy who currently ranks third in fantasy points per route run behind only JSN and Puka Nakua.
71:09Third in fantasy points per route. Now we're going from 51% to 87%.
71:13Since the start of last season, he averages 2.8 more fantasy points per game than Justin Jefferson.
71:19And so I was trying to help you out, Graham, with the slate breakdown this week.
71:24And I was writing my Michael Wilson blurb. And I was like, oh, I get a great stat.
71:30Let me go into fantasy points data suite 2.0.
71:33Pull up all receivers over their last 12 games.
71:36Get their fantasy points. And then contrast that to their current salary.
71:40Michael Wilson, of course, has to be number one.
71:43Nope. It was George Kittle by a landslide. The best value on the slate by far on a point per dollar last 12 games.
71:51George Kittle. So he's just like an insane value.
71:54And so if you're fading Trey McBride, who's an awesome play.
71:58Sam Laporta, who's an awesome play. Both have great matchups.
72:01I think the best pure value tight end has to be Kittle, even in this spot.
72:06I'm with you. I mean, 5,200 is just an insane price.
72:10And I think there's a way to play. I think I said this on an early look.
72:16But this is shaping up to me to be one of the better weeks to play two tight ends.
72:22And Kittle is just a huge part of that.
72:25I mean, you just treat him as a wide receiver.
72:28He's 5,200. And it's an insane price. Full-time route share.
72:32All the things that Scott said. I think he's probably my favorite play on this slate, pound for pound.
72:38He's just 10% to 12%, 15% ownership on a player who, I mean, he's legitimately got 20 DK, 25 DK, and his range of outcomes vary consistently.
72:47Maybe not to the order of magnitude that Bowers and McBride get there, but it is relatively close.
72:53Ryan, I'll throw it to you for your thoughts on the Seahawks side.
72:57JSN is a little cheaper than he was last week, which is nice.
73:02But I think the more interesting play is in this backfield.
73:05Emmanuel Wilson had a very strong role last week, and he should again here in a spot where Seattle is favored by three.
73:13Yeah, I think you have to pick one path or the other and lean into it with this game if you're going to play it.
73:21It's either what was just mentioned, the Kittle JSN mini.
73:24Because, yeah, JSN averaging 31.4 DraftKings fantasy points per game.
73:28He's been much better over the past two years in games that the Seahawks aren't winning by multiple scores in these competitive games.
73:35We see his averages come way up. That could be this week.
73:39It's only a three-point spread. If the 49ers do provide pushback, if Kittle is able to get there, then, yeah, JSN's an awesome play.
73:47A little bit tough outside of that just because if you're spending $8,800, it's like I would almost just want to find
73:55a way to get up to Jameer Gibbs at that point.
73:58But he's there. It's a strong option if that's how you want to play it.
74:03But, yeah, on the other end of this, you could lean into if you think the Seahawks are just going to dominate this game and control it throughout.
74:13Emmanuel Wilson at $5,300 looks like an awesome play.
74:16The 49ers are allowing the sixth most schedule-adjusted fantasy points per game to opposing running backs.
74:21They're the most extreme run funnel by pass rate over expectation allowed in the NFL right now.
74:27Now, Wilson was in pretty damn close to an every-down bell cow roll last week.
74:32Of course, that only happens if the Seahawks are leading, if they're ahead, right?
74:36Last week, he was at a 76% backfield XFP share.
74:40That ranked top eight among all running backs on the week.
74:43But we have seen in negative game scripts, so against the Commanders in week three, for example, it was George Helani playing
74:51more snaps, running more routes at the end of that game after Jadarian Price had left than Emmanuel Wilson.
74:57So that's the clear way Wilson fails is if this is more of a back-and-forth game, if the Seahawks are trailing, yeah,
75:04then Wilson is not a great play. But I think you can play him and the Seahawks' defense.
75:10They're down to $2,800, probably one of the cheapest you've ever been able to play the Seahawks' defense.
75:16That's kind of a fun running back DST stack that I don't think will have a ton of ownership on it.
75:23Wilson plus Seahawks' D. Those are my only real two angles for the Seahawks here.
75:28Great call. Can I disagree with Ryan? Yeah. Respectfully.
75:31I'll do respect to Ryan Heath. No, disrespect. You have to be disrespectful about it.
75:36You want me to be disrespectful about it? Listen, you jerk.
75:40I can't even be fake disrespectful to Ryan Heath, who I love like a son.
75:45I'm really into JSN. You're talking about power law outcomes that put you over the top.
75:50I said it with Jameer Gibbs. Maybe he's just the new Le'Veon Bell.
75:54Maybe JSN's just the new Le'Veon Bell, where even if he's $10,500, you've got to play him every week.
76:01He's only $8,800. He's cheaper than Jameer Gibbs. He's drawing a fraction of the ownership, and you know who leads all players
76:08in DraftKings fantasy points per game, Ryan? It's not your golden boy, Jameer Gibbs.
76:13It's JSN. He averages an insane 31.4 DraftKings fantasy points per game.
76:17If you want to factor in positional value, positional scarcity on a slate where we get DeAndre Swift, we get Braylon Allen,
76:24we get all these guys, that goes a really, really long way.
76:281.07 fantasy points per route run. The next closest slate-eligible wide receiver is Mike Evans at 0.66.
76:34That's a 62% difference. We're talking about power law potential, power law outcomes.
76:38And the only real concern here is passing volume, right?
76:41We just saw last week Sam Darnold threw only 22 times, right?
76:45Well, the week before that, with tight game script, Sam Darnold threw the ball, what, 48 times?
76:51He had a career high in passing yards. And I think this week's game script closed three-point spread up against the best EPA per play offense in football.
77:0049ers can push Seattle here. And so, like, I'm looking at Jameer Gibbs' price and ownership, and I just think JSN's interesting.
77:07Hey, I don't even disagree. Yeah, I don't want to be misconstrued here.
77:12All I'm saying is if you play JSN, you have to play Kittle on the same lineup.
77:17That's all I'm saying. We're literally like George Kittle's three biggest fans in this room right now.
77:23No, you're honestly probably not wrong, and I think there's probably the three people in fantasy football that have made the most money off George Kittle as well.
77:32Oh, yeah. Which is easy. You know how you do that?
77:36You just always play George Kittle. You draft a ton, and you play him every week when he's this cheap.
77:43I don't know. I've had this, like, weird gut feeling about Sam Darnold all week.
77:48So, Scott, your take is interesting. You know, he's overpriced.
77:51He's tough to get to on DraftKings because, like I've been saying the whole show, we've got so many, you know, cheap quarterbacks.
77:59But I don't know. It's just a total gut thing.
78:02But I could see Darnold throwing 302 touchdowns in this game specifically because, like you said, this Niners offense is that good.
78:09They certainly can push. And I know the – you know, a lot of respect for Seattle, a lot of respect for Mike McDonald in this defense.
78:18But, I mean, this is the second best game total on the slate, and I don't think anybody's really going to play Darnold.
78:26So, that's kind of my contrarian play. I'm going to write him up as, you know, kind of like the low-owned tournament quarterback that I'm playing.
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