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Team-by-Team: Everything To Know Heading Into Week 5 (Episode 1031 with Evan Silva and Adam Levitan)

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1 hr 50 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Oct 6, 2026
Published
Tue, October 6, 2026
98
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74
Players mentioned
Topics
DeVonta SmithWill ShipleyBijan RobinsonBlake CorumBryce YoungChase BrownD.J. MooreDrake LondonJahan DotsonJames CookJustin JeffersonKenneth Walker IIIKyle PittsLamar Jackson
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A.J. Brown

NegativeRole23:16

Evan Silva notes that Eagles coordinator Brian Fleury indicated the team prefers to deploy A.J. Brown on tush push plays further out than the half-yard line, rather than exclusively at the goal line. This distinction matters for projecting goal-line carries and touchdown opportunities for Brown, as it affects his red-zone role and scoring probability.

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Aaron Jones

PositiveUsage53:30

Aaron Jones is projected for another huge workload in Week 5; the Vikings have a bye in Week 6, and Jordan Mason is expected back in Week 7, meaning Jones will continue to see heavy volume.

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Alvin Kamara

NegativeRole55:48

In the first game without Travis Etienne, Alvin Kamara had two short touchdowns and five catches; Silva notes that while Kamara is one of the worst running backs in the NFL athletically, he remains fantasy-viable because he gets high-value touches (goal-line carries and catches). However, the upcoming matchup against the Vikings is described as an impossible spot.

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Bijan Robinson

PositiveRole28:28

Bijan Robinson is a core part of the Falcons' offensive identity under the Bill Callahan run scheme and Kevin Stefanski's play-calling. The Falcons are intentionally involving both Bijan Robinson and Brian Robinson in a run-heavy scheme, with the offense built around their ability to execute play-action off the ground game to attack downfield.

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NegativeUsage29:45

Bijan Robinson has been unstoppable in the Falcons' run-heavy scheme; he scored a 59-yard touchdown on his first touch of the game (third play), and his ability to avoid first-contact tackles is exceptional.

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Blake Corum

NegativeProjection45:34

Kyrie Williams has 'waxed Blake Corum over the last two weeks,' indicating a clear backfield hierarchy shift where Williams is receiving the bulk of touches and targets, making Corum a less attractive fantasy option.

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NegativeUsage47:34

Corum has run only 29 routes this season compared to Kyren Williams' 99 routes, indicating a significant pass-catching role disparity. This usage split suggests limited receiving opportunity and a secondary role in the Rams' offense.

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Bo Nix

NegativeProjection80:22

Bo Nix's performance has deteriorated significantly in Week 5; his completion percentage is down to 60% and yards per attempt dropped to 6.1, both well below his numbers from his first two NFL seasons, indicating a major regression in the struggling Broncos offense.

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Brian Robinson

PositiveRole28:28

Brian Robinson is showing standalone value in the Falcons' run-heavy offensive scheme. The Falcons are intentionally involving both Brian Robinson and Bijan Robinson in a two-back approach, with the offense designed to be extremely run-heavy and then use play-action to attack downfield.

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Bryce Young

PositiveProjection30:30

Bryce Young has had an insane turnaround, shredding the Lions defense with 329 passing yards and two passing touchdowns with no interceptions; he's been technically sound and accurate like Drew Brees, though he's faced the easiest pass defense schedule in the NFL through four games, so sustainability depends on tougher matchups.

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PositiveProjection33:50

Evan Silva issued a public apology to Bryce Young, admitting he was wrong about the quarterback's prospects after Young was benched for Andy Dalton. Young has returned as an NFL MVP candidate and is performing at an elite level; Silva expects Young to receive a huge contract soon.

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CeeDee Lamb

PositiveProjection0:17

Had a massive Week 4 performance; part of a wide receiver resurgence in Week 4 that also included Ted McMillan and Nico Collins.

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Chase Brown

NegativeUsage75:16

Chase Brown ran 9 times for 10 yards in Week 4 but salvaged his fantasy day with 11 catches, demonstrating a pass-catching role in the Bengals offense; the team called 13 runs on 58 Joe Burrow dropbacks, indicating a pass-heavy approach.

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PositiveUsage76:24

Despite running nine times for 10 yards, Chase Brown salvaged his fantasy day with 11 catches in Week 5 against the Ravens, demonstrating significant pass-catching volume that can offset limited rushing production.

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Chris Olave

NegativeInjury55:12

Chris Olave got dinged up late in the Saints game but Silva expects he'll be all right based on post-game observations; Olave remains a core weapon in the Saints' high-volume passing offense.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection45:05

Silva still loves Christian Watson despite the conservative Packers game plan against Tampa, noting that Watson and Golden Craft's production is 'so concentrated' and they will be forced to throw much more against stronger opponents like the Bears, where Watson is 'way more likely to be pushed.'

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Chuba Hubbard

PositiveValue34:24

Evan Silva admits he was very wrong about Chuba Hubbard before the season, calling it one of his worst calls for not wanting to draft him. Hubbard has been an electric pick so far and is shaping up to be one of the best picks in fantasy for at least the first month. Silva notes that Hubbard was hurt for two-thirds of training camp, which contributed to the initial skepticism, but he has been outstanding.

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Colby Parkinson

NegativeDepth Chart49:54

Parkinson did not play in Week 4. His absence contributed to the Rams' heavy 11 personnel usage, which benefited Tyler Higbee's route volume (41 routes). If Parkinson remains out, Higbee's role and fantasy value should remain elevated.

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Colston Loveland

PositiveRole32:28

Loveland had five catches on five targets for 83 yards in the slot; Evan Silva compared his slot usage to Marcus Colston's role, noting that Brad Idzik said he would use Loveland in the slot and followed through on that plan.

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Cyrus Allen

PositiveSleeper10:57

Cyrus Allen made significant noise during training camp and is positioned as Rasheed Rice's direct backup rather than Thornton's; Silva expressed interest in seeing Allen play more, suggesting he could step up if Tyreek Hill remains unavailable.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeInjury69:05

DJ Moore aggravated his shoulder injury during the Bills' 29-26 home loss to the Patriots in Week 4.

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NegativeInjury79:50

Starting to get worried about DJ Moore's left shoulder injury; this is the second time he's had an issue with it. Evan Silva suspects shoulder subluxation/dislocation that can pop out repeatedly, forcing him to leave games. Moore left early in this game despite being mega tilted about it.

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D'Andre Swift

NegativeRole35:47

DeAndre Swift lost a fumble midway through the third quarter in the Bears' Week 4 game against the Jets and was benched outright by offensive coordinator Ben Johnson. This benching allowed Kyle Mononga to rack up 30 carries, 146 yards, and two touchdowns.

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Dalton Kincaid

NegativeUsage80:27

Dalton Kincaid saw just two targets despite running 17 routes in a game where DJ Moore left early—unacceptable usage according to offensive coordinator Joe Brady, who said post-game 'I have to be better. There's no reason Don Kincaid should have two targets, especially with the flow of the game.' Kincaid was wide open in the end zone from six yards out but Josh Allen didn't see him. Evan Silva is disappointed but notes Brady is aware of the problem.

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Darius Cooper

PositiveRole7:06

Cooper emerged as the two-receiver option in the Eagles' offense, running 29 routes on 32 Jalen Hurts dropbacks compared to Makai Lemon's 27 routes. He made a couple of plays in the recent game and is expected to maintain this elevated role entering Week 5 against the Jaguars.

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Davis Allen

NegativeUsage50:05

Allen ran 13 routes in Week 4, significantly fewer than Tyler Higbee's 41 routes, confirming Higbee as the primary tight end in the Rams' offense with Ferguson sidelined.

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Derrick Henry

NegativeMatchup27:09

With Tyler Huntley starting at quarterback for the Ravens, Derrick Henry's production has been volatile in a small two-game sample. In one Huntley start last year, Henry rushed 21 times for 71 yards and two touchdowns; in the other, he had 36 carries for 216 yards and four rushing touchdowns. The speaker advises not to overthink Henry's performance in this backup QB situation.

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Deshaun Watson

PositiveProjection76:47

Evan Silva is buying Deshaun Watson's resurgence; Watson is completing almost 70% of his passes with a quarterback rating over 100, and can support a functional passing game with receivers like Casey Concepcion and Denzel Washington getting opportunities.

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DeVonta Smith

NegativeInjury2:15

Already sidelined heading into Week 4; Eagles offense severely depleted with multiple key receivers and offensive linemen unavailable, contributing to offensive struggles and late-game loss to the Rams.

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NegativeInjury3:25

Devonta Smith is not expected to play in Jacksonville in Week 5, creating additional offensive constraints for the Eagles alongside injuries to Saquon Barkley and other offensive line issues.

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NegativeInjury6:50

Devonta Smith was out for the Eagles' recent game and could miss the upcoming Week 5 matchup against the Jaguars, which was described as a very tough matchup.

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Drake London

PositiveRole28:48

Drake London is the primary downfield target in the Falcons' play-action passing scheme. The offense is designed to be extremely run-heavy and then use play-action to get Michael Penix free to throw the ball downfield to Drake London, making him the focal point of the vertical passing attack.

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PositiveUsage29:09

Drake London has maintained a 30% target share with Michael Penix on the field through two games; the Falcons' play-action heavy scheme is designed to get London downfield, and he would have produced significantly more if the run game (led by Bijan Robinson) hadn't been so dominant.

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Harold Fannin

PositiveRole77:34

Harold Fannin has been getting into the end zone for the Browns, contributing touchdown production in the improved passing game.

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Isaac TeSlaa

NegativeUsage44:47

Isaac Teslar received eight targets for a 15% target share in Week 5, which is notably high given he has been 'a really, really, really bad target earner in his NFL career.' Silva plans to monitor whether this elevated target share is sticky, noting it would make a significant fantasy difference if sustained.

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Ja'Marr Chase

NegativeInjury73:24

Jamar Chase sustained a concussion in Week 4 against Jacksonville after a nasty face mask hit from Jarius Jones; he is in the concussion protocol with uncertain status for Week 5. The Bengals offense was noticeably less efficient without him on the field.

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Jacory Croskey-Merritt

PositiveUsage66:50

Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt recorded four targets in the Commanders' London game against the Colts, doing something he's never really done before by becoming an actual threat in the passing game; this opportunity emerged with Rashad White sidelined, though White is expected to return in Week 5.

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Jahan Dotson

NegativeRole29:09

Jahan Dotson got involved in the Falcons game but remains secondary to Drake London in the passing game as the Falcons rely on a run-heavy, play-action formula.

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NegativeRole29:09

Jahan Dotson was traded to the Falcons and has received some involvement in the offense, though he is not the primary target in the Falcons' current scheme. The offense is focused on run-heavy play-action with Drake London as the primary downfield receiver.

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Jalen Coker

NegativeInjury32:54

Jalen Coker was out for the Panthers' Week 4 game against the Lions and is questionable for Week 5. Evan Silva notes that when Coker or McMillan is out, the other gets a significant boost in production.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeProjection3:25

Jalen Hurts was 12 of 27 for 93 passing yards and carried it five times for 18 yards in Week 4 against the Rams. The Eagles offense has been historically poor through four weeks—the worst performance through the first four weeks of a season this century according to success rate metrics; they've gone three and out on over 45% of offensive possessions and accumulated only 172 yards from scrimmage, the lowest in a game in 12 years.

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Jameis Winston

NegativeProjection57:57

Jameis Winston threw three touchdowns for 250 yards with 8.6 yards per attempt in the Giants' 36-point win over the Cardinals, but also threw two interceptions and took four sacks; Silva notes this represents the vintage Jameis experience when games get loose.

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James Cook

NegativeUsage72:59

James Cook ran only 12 routes on 36 dropbacks in Week 4; on a two-yard goal-line situation, the Bills went to Josh Allen instead of Cook, suggesting underutilization of the running back in high-leverage scoring opportunities despite being described as an awesome asset.

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NegativeUsage81:07

James Cook played well but lost a critical two-yard touchdown opportunity when the Bills ran a tush push with Josh Allen instead of going to Cook from the two-yard line. Cook ran only 12 routes on 36 dropbacks, and Ty Johnson also played, limiting Cook's involvement. Evan Silva flags this as a missed opportunity for a player who should be getting much more volume.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveInjury45:23

Jaden Daniels has a real chance to be back in Week 5 against the Giants at home; Evan Silva expects him to play in this game, which represents the primary source of hope for a Commanders offense that currently looks shot with four running backs and no quality options at the position.

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Jeremiyah Love

NegativeRole12:25

Jeremiah Love, the third overall pick in the draft, played only 11 snaps in the second half of a close game against the Giants despite critical situations (goal line, two-minute drill comeback attempt); Love attributed limited usage to fatigue, saying it's been 'the longest year of his life' and that Tyler Algier and Bam Knight 'can exert themselves a little more,' raising concerns about his commitment and work ethic.

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Jerry Jeudy

NegativeDepth Chart78:34

Jerry Judy ran only 19 routes in Week 5 and is mentioned in trade candidate discussions, suggesting the Browns may look to move him despite his presence on the roster.

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Joe Mixon

NegativeBust22:05

Evan Silva expresses strong skepticism about Mixon's fantasy viability going forward, stating he thought Mixon was 'done for his career' due to a foot injury and explicitly advises against adding him at age 30. Silva expects the Seahawks to deploy Charbonnet, Helani, and Price (when healthy) instead, indicating Mixon is not part of the team's running back plans.

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Jonathon Brooks

NegativeValue35:03

Jonathan Brooks was ranked around 120 overall in ETR rankings heading into the season, despite pre-draft hype about his college tape. Evan Silva and the projections team held strong on their ranking of Brooks below Chuba Hubbard (who was ranked in the 70s-80s), and Brooks has underperformed relative to expectations while Hubbard has thrived.

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Jordan Addison

PositiveUsage52:41

Despite facing Miami at home without Justin Jefferson—the best spot of his career—Jordan Addison only had a 16% target share with 4 catches for 52 yards; this was a red flag for Addison's role in the Vikings offense.

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Jordan Love

NegativeProjection44:45

Jordan Love had 30 dropbacks, zero sacks, and was hit only twice against Tampa, but the Packers' conservative game plan limited explosive passing plays. Silva notes the Packers will likely be forced to throw more against stronger opponents like the Bears, creating better fantasy conditions.

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Jordyn Tyson

PositiveInjury56:35

Underhill reported Jordan Tyson sprinting and stopping as he comes off his hamstring injury; Schefter reported the most likely return date is week nine (Saints play in Paris week seven and have a bye week eight). Silva notes it's encouraging to see Tyson running and sprinting off the hamstring injury, and Underhill also reported seeing Tyson dunk. Silva acknowledges the injury concerns were a knock on Tyson pre-draft but believes if healthy he'd be performing at a high level.

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Josh Allen

PositiveMatchup79:52

More shootouts ahead are good news for Josh Allen and company. The Bills' defensive problems are being exposed weekly, and while the Bills didn't play their best offensive game for the second week in a row, Evan Silva expects this will ultimately be good for fantasy as it leads to more high-scoring games.

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Justin Jefferson

NegativeInjury50:45

Vikings played Week 4 without Jefferson and failed to score a touchdown against the Dolphins at home, highlighting the team's offensive struggles without their star receiver.

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NegativeInjury51:51

Jefferson missed Week 4 against Miami but has a legitimate chance to play in Week 5; Evan Silva estimates 60-65-70% probability of playing.

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Juwan Johnson

PositiveRole54:02

Evan Silva notes that Juwan Johnson continues to be an excellent weekly start for the Saints, highlighting his consistent role in the passing game as part of the team's dome-based, high-volume offensive thesis.

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Kendre Miller

NegativeRole55:56

Kendra Miller had a horrible lost fumble early in the Saints-Falcons game deep in Saints territory that led directly to a Falcons touchdown; Silva questions whether Miller will see much playing time the rest of the season following this turnover.

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Kenneth Walker III

PositiveUsage8:15

Walker had an outsized impact on the Chiefs' 30-27 victory over Vegas, carrying the ball 22 times for 177 yards and two touchdowns. He continues to demonstrate a really outsized impact on the Chiefs' offense.

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PositiveProjection12:02

Kenneth Walker is performing well and Silva expressed confidence that if he stays healthy, he will continue to produce at a high level; Silva joked about taking 'victory laps' on Walker's performance.

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Keon Coleman

PositiveRole80:10

Keon Coleman is the primary beneficiary when DJ Moore is out; in four quarters without Moore, Coleman commanded 30% of targets (vs. Shakir 17%, James Cook 13%, Palmer 13%, Kincaid 13%). Coleman played a really good game with six catches, 116 yards, and a touchdown, continuing to show he can play at the NFL level. Evan Silva remains skeptical about him long term but acknowledges the light may have flipped on.

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Kyle Pitts

NegativeRole29:09

Kyle Pitts got a little bit involved in the Falcons game but remains a secondary target in the run-heavy, play-action passing scheme.

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NegativeRole29:09

Kyle Pitts received some involvement in the Falcons' offense in the recent game, though he is not a primary focal point of the run-heavy, play-action-based scheme that emphasizes Drake London downfield.

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Kyler Murray

NegativeProjection53:08

Kyler Murray is dead last in QBR this season and was 23rd among 29 qualifiers in 2025 before being benched for Jacoby Brissett; Evan Silva wants to see Murray with Justin Jefferson for a full game or multiple full games before assessing his fantasy value, and there's a very good chance Carson Wentz gets under center at some point for Minnesota.

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Kyren Williams

PositiveUsage38:35

Williams has run 99 routes this season versus 29 for Blake Corum, accumulating 21 catches in four games. His previous career high is 36 catches, meaning he is on pace to shatter that mark. Silva notes his high-value touches have been absolutely great, indicating elite pass-catching usage and production.

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Lamar Jackson

NegativeInjury23:27

Lamar Jackson suffered an ankle sprain during the Ravens-Titans game and has only an outside chance to play in Week 5 against the Falcons, per Ian Rapoport. The injury could sideline him for multiple games. Silva emphasizes the severity, noting that 'a banged up Lamar is not a very good Lamar' because his mobility is critical to his effectiveness, citing last season as evidence of performance decline when he cannot move freely.

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NegativeInjury25:38

Lamar Jackson left the Ravens game early, forcing a backup quarterback situation. The timing of his departure (first half) coincided with a sharp drop in offensive production and directly impacted dependent pass-catchers like Zay Flowers.

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Makai Lemon

NegativeRole6:54

Lemon ran 27 routes on 32 Jalen Hurts dropbacks but did not expand into two-receiver sets even with Devonta Smith out. Darius Cooper took over the two-receiver role instead, and this role split is expected to remain the same entering Week 5 against the Jaguars.

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Matthew Stafford

NegativeProjection45:47

Silva notes that Matthew Stafford 'has not played his best football through four weeks' despite the Rams' comeback win, suggesting there is room for improvement in his fantasy performance going forward.

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NegativeProjection47:46

Stafford has not played his best football through four weeks heading into Week 5, though Silva notes prior injury reports (back injury last August) proved overblown and did not affect his MVP-winning season.

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Michael Penix Jr.

PositiveProjection27:27

Michael Penix has exceeded expectations since returning to the Falcons. In two games, the Falcons have scored 80 points and accumulated 918 yards of offense against the Packers and Saints. While the speaker expected Penix to provide a boost, the magnitude of offensive production—particularly against two good matchups—has been surprising and suggests the Falcons' offensive scheme is highly effective with him under center.

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PositiveProjection29:57

Michael Penix has been really good through two games with the Falcons despite poor performance last year before injury; however, both wins came against very favorable matchups (Green Bay and New Orleans), so sustainability remains a question.

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Nico Collins

PositiveProjection0:17

Had a massive Week 4 performance; part of a wide receiver resurgence in Week 4 that also included Ted McMillan and CeeDee Lamb.

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Puka Nacua

PositiveProjection45:28

Puka Nakua returned from a two-week hip injury and performed at an elite level, 'taking Rick Woolen to the woodshed time and time again.' Silva calls Nakua 'incredible' and notes his return to form was 'awesome to see,' indicating he is back in full fantasy consideration.

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NegativeInjury47:08

Despite pre-hernia concerns that could require six-week surgery, Nakua played 76 of 84 snaps, ran 49 routes on 54 Stafford dropbacks, handled 12 carries including a goal-line carry, and showed no limitations in Week 4. Evan Silva emphasizes he would not sell Nakua given his value as an asset, dismissing speculation about the hernia risk.

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Quinshon Judkins

PositiveRole79:00

With Dylan Sampson sidelined, Quinshon Junkins has dramatically increased his pass-catching role; over the last three weeks he has 14 targets for a 15% target share, on pace for 64 catches this season compared to 26 last year when Sampson was healthy. This represents a major shift from his previous two-down, run-only role.

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Rashee Rice

NegativeInjury8:28

Rice left the Chiefs' game against Vegas with a hamstring tweak, creating uncertainty about his availability going forward.

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PositiveInjury11:23

Rasheed Rice suffered a hamstring injury (characterized as a 'tweak' rather than a pull) in Week 5 but did not return to the game; reports are positive that he has a chance to play in Week 6 after the bye week, though Silva noted ongoing concerns about Rice's knee health and off-field issues.

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RJ Harvey

PositiveUsage81:20

R.J. Harvey is receiving repeated dump-down passes from Bo Nix in the Broncos offense, accumulating target volume as Nix avoids throwing downfield to open receivers like Jalen Waddell.

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Sam LaPorta

PositiveValue44:11

Evan Silva calls Sam Laporte a 'smash every week' in fantasy, citing the Lions' deficient back seven due to injuries and personnel issues, which creates consistent passing game opportunity.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeInjury2:18

Suffered a hamstring injury in-game during Week 4 loss to the Rams; Eagles already depleted at running back with Tank Bigsby also injured in the same game, creating significant backfield uncertainty heading into Week 5.

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NegativeInjury4:55

Saquon Barkley is dealing with a hamstring injury being called week-to-week. The injury appeared significant rather than a minor tweak; he immediately pulled up lame and started limping, suggesting it may sideline him for Week 5 against Jacksonville.

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Tank Bigsby

NegativeInjury2:18

Suffered a hamstring injury in-game during Week 4 loss to the Rams; with Saquon Barkley also injured in the same game, the Eagles backfield is severely depleted heading into Week 5.

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NegativeInjury5:05

Tank Bigsby requires surgery on his sports hernia and will be out for six weeks. This opens the door for Will Shipley to assume a lead role in the Eagles backfield, though the Eagles' prior trade for Bigsby suggests limited confidence in Shipley as a long-term solution.

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Tee Higgins

NegativeInjury74:14

Tee Higgins sustained a groin/adductor injury in Week 4 against Jacksonville and is listed as day-to-day; not considered a serious injury, but his status for Week 5 against Miami and the subsequent bye week is uncertain.

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Terrance Ferguson

NegativeInjury49:11

Ferguson went on IR prior to Week 4, meaning he is out for at least three more games. His absence has opened up significant receiving opportunities for Tyler Higbee.

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Terry McLaurin

NegativeInjury67:08

Terry McLaurin sustained an injury during Friday's practice ahead of the Commanders' London game; the severity is unclear, and his status for Week 5 remains uncertain.

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Trevor Etienne

NegativeInjury34:51

Trevor Etienne is due to come off injured reserve after the Panthers' bye week. Evan Silva notes this is a small note but suggests he may be a pickup in deep, full PPR leagues.

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Tyler Higbee

PositiveRole49:34

With Terrence Ferguson on IR for at least three more games, Higbee has produced top-12 tight end viable fantasy output in two games without Ferguson. He posted 5 catches for 67 yards on 6 targets in Week 4, ran 41 routes (vs. Davis Allen's 13), and Silva projects him as a fantasy starter against Buffalo on Monday night, citing Buffalo's major linebacker problems.

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Tyler Huntley

NegativeProjection25:19

Evan Silva expresses strong skepticism about Tyler Huntley as a replacement for Lamar Jackson, stating 'Tyler Huntley is not good.' Silva cites Huntley's poor passing production: 63 passing yards in the recent game, 186 yards in one start last year, and 107 yards in another start. While Huntley did rush 16 times for 113 yards across two starts last season, Silva concludes the overall outlook is 'not good' for the Ravens offense with Huntley under center.

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Tyquan Thornton

NegativeInjury8:38

Thornton suffered a gruesome ankle dislocation during the Chiefs' game against Vegas and is likely done for the season. This is particularly unfortunate because Thornton was outplaying Xavier Worthy and was in the midst of the game of his life before the injury.

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Tyreek Hill

NegativeProjection9:06

While the Chiefs are likely to sign Hill during their bye week, Evan Silva expressed skepticism about his fantasy value. Hill is 32 years old and suffered a severe knee injury one year ago—a dislocated left knee with multiple ligament tears including his ACL. As of a month ago, he was still reporting trouble pushing off his left leg, raising concerns about his ability to return to form.

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Will Shipley

PositiveRole3:59

Will Shipley, a 2024 fourth-round pick, is positioned to assume a lead role against Jacksonville with both Saquon Barkley (hamstring) and Tank Bigsby (sports hernia surgery) sidelined. Shipley is a 5'11", 206-pound athlete who ran 4.39 at the combine with a 6.8-second 3-cone; at Clemson he carried over 210 times in 14 games and was sharing carries almost evenly with Bigsby before the injury. He plays well in the passing game and will likely be the most pursued running back off waivers this week, expected to be an FFPC main event.

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NegativeRole5:05

Despite the opportunity, Will Shipley's workload history raises concerns about a true workhorse role. The Eagles have given him only 59 carries in 35 games as an Eagle and have hesitated significantly to deploy him; the team's prior trade for Tank Bigsby suggests limited confidence in Shipley as a long-term solution. Backup options include Damian Pierce, Jaden Blue, and Carson Steele—not an imposing group, but the Eagles' reluctance to commit carries to Shipley is a notable constraint.

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NegativeRole6:54

Despite being drafted by Philadelphia, Shipley has received only 59 carries across 35 games as an Eagle, indicating the team has hesitated significantly to give him a workhorse role. While he plays well in the passing game, Jalen Hurts has not historically thrown to running backs in his career, limiting Shipley's upside in the Eagles' offense.

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Xavier Worthy

NegativeRole8:38

Worthy was being outplayed by Tyquan Thornton before Thornton's season-ending ankle dislocation. With Thornton out, Worthy's role in the Chiefs' offense may expand.

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NegativeRole10:51

Xavier Worthy is being thrust into a larger role following Taequann Thornton's ankle dislocation, but Silva expressed doubt about Worthy's ability to handle the expanded workload, saying 'I'm just not sure he can do it.'

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Zay Flowers

NegativeProjection25:48

Zay Flowers was on pace to be a top-tier wide receiver in the NFL this season and had generated 118 receiving yards on a per-play basis that was the most productive in the NFL by a large margin through the first half of the season. However, Lamar Jackson's injury has put his WR1/WR3/WR5 finish in jeopardy. The speaker notes that while Flowers had elite efficiency, the Lamar Jackson offense structure limited his ceiling compared to other elite receivers.

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NegativeProjection25:49

Evan Silva expresses concern about Zay Flowers' fantasy outlook due to Lamar Jackson's ankle injury. Silva notes that Flowers 'was on his way to being one of the best wide receivers in the NFL this year,' but the loss of Lamar as his quarterback significantly diminishes his production potential, as Huntley is a far inferior passer.

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Full transcript

Episode Transcript

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0:00Hello and welcome to Episode 1031 of the official EstablishTheRun.com podcast.
0:04My name is Adam Levitan. I'm one of the co-founders here at ETR as always joined by fellow co-founder Evan Silva.
0:11And week four is in the books. It was the wide receiver strike back a bit, Evan.
0:17Massive week for Ted McMillan, CeeDee Lamb, Nico Collins.
0:20Evan, how was your week four? Yeah, it was a super exciting week.
0:24There were a ton of injuries again. That will be a big theme in the upcoming matchups column.
0:30I mean, just keeping track of all of them is a job in and of itself.
0:35But yeah, it was a high scoring week. Also the last week where we had all 32 teams playing because now we got some buys coming up.
0:45Yeah, I meant to look into this. I didn't have a chance to before the show, but it certainly feels like injuries have been worse this year.
0:54And even if the quantity of injuries isn't worse, I think the fantasy impactful injuries have been worse.
1:00And so it feels terrible for all of us.
1:03But yeah, I mean, I'm going to try to look at it and see if that's the case.
1:09But it feels really, really, really bad on the injury front here through the first four weeks.
1:15On today's show, we are going to go team by team through all 32 NFL franchises discussing the most important things we
1:22saw in each and what it means going forward.
1:25Usage, injuries, performance, everything. Reminder for anyone serious about fantasy football or DFS this season.
1:30Clearly, I'm biased, but I could not imagine trying to play seriously without our NFL in-season product.
1:36Basically, for any decision that I make, I look at our projections.
1:40I read Silva's matchups for his take on every player in every game.
1:44I look at Thorne's offensive line, defensive line rankings, tons more.
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2:09All right, going to start with the five biggest stories of the week, and then we will go team by team in alphabetical order after that.
2:18Story one, Evan. Let's go back to Philly. Eagles were already playing without Devonta Smith, Dallas Goddard, Zach Vaughn, Lane Johnson, Fred Johnson.
2:25Then they lose Saquon Barkley to a hamstring injury in-game.
2:29Then they lose Tank Bigsby to a hamstring injury in-game.
2:32Through all that, they still had a great chance to win this game, to beat the Rams at home, but they give it away late and lose 24-20.
2:42It is full-blown panic right now in Philadelphia, Evan, especially around the offense.
2:46Thoughts on that, and then thoughts on the upcoming backfield situation without both Barkley and Tank Bigsby.
2:52Yeah, so for a long time, the Eagles have relied on, year in and year out, Howie Roseman's roster building, having built
2:59one of the most talented rosters in the NFL.
3:02Even years when they're not going to the Super Bowl or winning the Super Bowl, they've had one of the best rosters
3:10from a pure roster talent standpoint every single year.
3:13And now they are so depleted that you can't say that about the Eagles anymore, and now you're seeing the limitations of Nick Sirianni as a coach.
3:22And so I think that that is being exposed.
3:25Also, the loss of Jeff Stoutland, I think, has been felt through four games on the offensive line.
3:31But of course, Lane Johnson dropping out in this past game.
3:35Cam Juergens playing a position where he's not supposed to play.
3:38And then coming up with, you know, now he's battling a concussion.
3:42They were already without Landon Dickerson. Yeah, the Eagles are in trouble.
3:46Right now, it doesn't look like Devontae Smith is going to be back in Jacksonville.
3:52Saquon Barkley's probably going to be out. The Eagles are in big-time trouble.
3:56And the Jaguars have played really good defense so far this season, too.
4:00Okay, so having said all that, and I agree with you, this offense looks broken.
4:05You know, Jalen Hurts was 12 of 27 in this game for 93 yards.
4:1093 passing yards for Jalen Hurts. Also only carried it five times for 18 yards.
4:15You know, our old friend Shio Kapadia, he said he had a tweet based on success rate.
4:21This is the worst an Eagles offense has performed through the first four weeks of a season.
4:27This century, they've gone three and out on over 45% of their offensive possessions.
4:31I mean, that is absolutely insane. So having said all that, Evan, how excited are you for this opportunity for Will Shipley?
4:39Will Shipley, 2024 fourth-round pick of the Eagles, has not played very much since they made that selection.
4:45Yeah, also from Shio Kapadia, the Eagles this past week had 172 yards from scrimmage against the Rams.
4:51They're lowest in a game in 12 years. So, I mean, this offense, to me, it seems broken.
4:57I don't know if they're going to be able to fix it anytime soon.
5:02Will Shipley is interesting. Played at Clemson. He has been sort of stereotyped as a passing down back, niche back, although at Clemson he was not.
5:11He had a season of over 210 carries in 14 games.
5:14He's 5'11", 206, so he's certainly not a tiny back.
5:18He ran 4'39 at the combine coming out with a 6'8", 3-cone.
5:22I mean, he's a big-time athlete who can play in the passing game.
5:26He was sharing time with Tank Bigsby almost right down the middle before Tank Bigsby got hurt.
5:32And now they've got a bunch of practice squad guys, Damian Pierce, Carson Steele, Jaden Blue that they're talking about bringing up.
5:39I think it's going to be the Will Shipley show against Jacksonville, and he will be probably like an FFPC main event.
5:47Will Shipley will be the highest or the most pursued running back off the waiver wire this week.
5:53Yeah, to be clear, Saquon Barkley, they're calling week-to-week with his hamstring injury.
5:57That was one where it didn't look like it was one of those minor tweaks.
6:02Like, he immediately pulled up lame and started limping.
6:05So week-to-week on Saquon Barkley, Tank Bigsby needs surgery on his sports hernia.
6:10He's going to be out six weeks here. Now, not the only concern, but one of the concerns for me on Will
6:17Shipley is that they went and traded for Tank Bigsby.
6:21Like, they weren't like, oh man, we got Saquon's backup right here.
6:25Will Shipley's great. No, they went out and gave up an actual pick to get Tank Bigsby last year.
6:31So maybe not the greatest vote of confidence there.
6:34However, Damian Pierce, Jaden Blue, Carson Steele, not exactly an imposing group for Will Shipley to run ahead of.
6:41So I need to think about this more, but I agree with Evan.
6:45It's going to be Will Shipley in a lead role.
6:48I just, I'm not sure it's actually going to be a workhorse role for Will Shipley.
6:54I mean, they've only given him 59 carries in 35 games as an Eagle.
6:58They have hesitated in a big way to give Will Shipley work.
7:03I do like that he plays well in the passing game.
7:06Jalen Hurts has not thrown to the running back in his career.
7:10Oh, also, with Devonta Smith out, and by the way, Devonta Smith could miss this game also.
7:16It was a very tough matchup, but Dontavian Wicks, Makai Lemon, they just were not good.
7:21And yeah, some was on the scheme. Some was on Jalen Hurts.
7:26Yes, it was a brutal matchup, but Darius Cooper was actually the one out making the plays.
7:31And by the way, Darius Cooper ran two more routes than Makai Lemon.
7:36They both ran a ton of routes, but Darius Cooper 29, Makai Lemon 27 on 32 Hertz dropbacks.
7:42So even with Devonta Smith out, Evan, I feel like it's a tough click on Wicks, Lemon, or any of these guys still.
7:50Yeah, you brought that up as a possibility on Sunday morning that Makai Lemon wouldn't necessarily jump into two receiver sets.
7:57And if that's opposite Dontavian Wicks would stay in that slot-only role, that's exactly what happened.
8:02Darius Cooper was the two-receiver guy and made a couple of plays.
8:06So I would expect that to remain the same, the status quo, entering week five against the Jaguars.
8:12Yeah, tough matchup against the Jaguars for sure. All right.
8:16Story two, let's go to Kansas City. Chiefs went to Vegas for a matchup of 3-0 teams.
8:21Chiefs survived 30-27 on the back of my personal hero, Kenneth Walker.
8:2522 carries, 177 yards, two touchdowns here for Walker.
8:28He continues to have this really outsized impact on the Chiefs.
8:32But it is not all roses here, Evan. Rasheed Rice left this game with a hamstring tweak.
8:38And then Tyquan Thornton, in the midst of the game of his life, Tyquan Thornton dislocates his ankle in a gruesome play.
8:45He is likely done for this season. So, Evan, what do you think of the Chiefs game and what do they do
8:53now with Thornton and Rasheed Rice banged up? Well, I love the Chiefs game because Sundays are for the polybros.
8:59And if you had the over in this game as we did, you were cooking on Sunday.
9:05And it wasn't looking very good entering the fourth quarter.
9:09But there was a scoring bonanza in the fourth quarter.
9:12And we got that over by quite a bit.
9:15Actually wound up with 57. I think the over-under was 47.5.
9:19So, an easy win in that fourth quarter. Or, yeah, I mean, the Chiefs, you know, we're talking about maybe potentially signing
9:26Tyreek Hill, which I feel like is going to happen during the Chiefs bye.
9:31I don't know that. We have no idea what his health is like.
9:35Also, is he going to be on the hook for any kind of a suspension at any point?
9:41I don't know. But it seems like Tyreek Hill is just a matter of time before he joins Kansas City.
9:48Yeah. So, on Tyreek Hill, I'm pretty skeptical here.
9:51He is 32 years old. He did not have, like, a clean ACL tear.
9:56This was one year ago. One of the worst knee injuries you can have.
10:01Tyreek Hill dislocated his left knee and tore multiple ligaments in his left knee, including his ACL.
10:06As of a month ago, he was still saying he was having trouble pushing off his left leg.
10:13So, I get they're probably going to sign him.
10:16I don't think I'm that excited about it. It's unfortunate on Taequann Thornton because I was excited about him.
10:22I mean, Taequann Thornton was outplaying Xavier Worthy. And, by the way, Taequann Thornton was somewhat of a prospect coming out of college.
10:30I do not think it's... Second round pick, wasn't he?
10:33Yeah, second round pick, I believe, by the Patriots.
10:36Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's crazy to say Taequann Thornton was going to outproduce Xavier Worthy rest of season.
10:43Like, I was ready to come on here and be like, we should be aggressive on Taequann Thornton on the waiver wire.
10:51Then he dislocates his ankle. So, they need Xavier Worthy.
10:54Again, I'm just not sure he can do it.
10:57Yeah. Go ahead. And looking down the depth chart, you know, Cyrus Allen hasn't really played a whole lot, but is a
11:05player that made a lot of noise during training camp.
11:08And I wonder if he could be the guy to step up, you know, assuming that Tyreek Hill isn't ready to go.
11:15And obviously, Taequann Thornton's going to be out. The reports on Rasheed Rice do seem positive that they got the bye in week five.
11:23And it sounds like Rasheed Rice has a chance to play in week six.
11:28Yes, this was not like Saquon's. They're calling it a tweak, not even a pull on Rasheed Rice.
11:34He did not get back into the game. It's just always something with Rasheed Rice.
11:39You know, I wasn't sure that his knee was right.
11:43Now the hamstring, the off-field stuff, it's not ideal.
11:46But yeah, on Cyrus Allen, I do think he fits more as Rasheed Rice's direct backup than Taequann Thornton's direct backup.
11:53But yes, I'd love to see Cyrus Allen play more.
11:56There's absolutely no doubt. Do you need to take any more victory laps on Kenneth Walker?
12:02The people know. The people know. The laps are quiet laps on Kenneth Walker.
12:06I just, I need him to keep smashing for my health.
12:10I need him to stay healthy. Yes. If he stays healthy, he'll keep smashing, obviously.
12:15Okay. No more talk about Kenneth Walker's health. It's too scary to me.
12:20Story three. Let's go to Arizona. Cardinals lose to the Giants 36-24 on the road.
12:25Cardinals are now 1-3. The story of the game, though, Evan, was this odd Jeremiah Love usage.
12:30Remember, this was the number three overall pick in the draft.
12:34He barely played in the second half of a very close game.
12:38They fail at the goal line. Jeremiah Love wasn't in.
12:42The biggest plays of their game slash season, two-minute drill, trying to make a comeback.
12:47Jeremiah Love is not in. He played 11 snaps in the entire second half.
12:51He must have been hurt, right? He must have been.
12:55They ask him about it after the game. Jeremiah Love says, no, I wasn't hurt.
13:00Coaches say, no, he wasn't hurt. I mean, I can read all the quotes for you guys if you want.
13:07But basically, Jeremiah Love said, it's been a long year for him.
13:11Sometimes his body is tired. This is the, quote, longest year of his life.
13:15He said, I think Tyler, Algier, or Bam Knight can exert themselves a little more.
13:20I couldn't believe I was hearing this, Evan. A Notre Dame guy?
13:25I would not let a kid on my sixth grade basketball team say stuff like this.
13:30Like, well, I'm tired. It's been a long year.
13:33I'm going to let the other guys go in.
13:36I wouldn't let a sixth grader say that. Jeremiah Love, the number three overall pick in the draft, is saying that.
13:43So yes, I was tilted. Cost me plenty of money.
13:46But I'm still, like, confused at what he said here.
13:50So Evan, any thoughts on this Jeremiah Love situation?
13:53Well, it could have been a lot longer year if Notre Dame had made the college football playoff and had to play
14:00three extra games or played in the bowl game that they were assigned.
14:05So it wasn't that long of a year, Jeremiah.
14:08But no, the stuff that came out this morning was that Mike LaFleur was talking about that there was an injury to
14:15Jeremiah Love's other ankle, which I would assume is like a compensation injury coming from the original high ankle sprain.
14:22And I mean, I do understand, like, the Cardinals have probably talked with Jeremiah Love and been like, hey, you know, we gave Tyler Algier this money.
14:31We want to keep you healthy throughout the course of the season.
14:35And so, you know, they're not overloading him with work after he had the high ankle sprain at the end of the preseason.
14:43So I don't know. I mean, I kind of am buying the lines, the company lines here from the Cardinals on Jeremiah Love.
14:51OK. And look, I was really excited about him entering week four just like you were.
14:56Yeah. And like my point is just this needs to be baked into projections.
15:01Like there could be games where Jeremiah Love plays a ton like he did in week three.
15:07And there could be games where he's like, I don't really want to go in.
15:12My body's tired. That has to be part of the projection now.
15:16I can never look at this the same and trust him to be out there for every snap.
15:22Now, maybe that'll change. Maybe he'll get healthier or whatever.
15:25But yeah, it just is what it is. It's also the fact that when you were a bad team, like Kenneth Walker
15:33made such a difference for a good team. The Chiefs Saquon Barkley in 2024 made a big difference for a good team.
15:40The Eagles taking a running back when you are horrific at three overall.
15:44This is it. This is why, man. This is just a debacle.
15:49I mean, just just a debacle so far. And I get it really early.
15:53Anyway, I'm done. And there are some other big concerns here, too, because the Cardinals lost their best offensive lineman, Paris Johnson,
16:01to a torn biceps during the game. He's done for the season.
16:05Yeah. And also their starting right guard, Isaiah Adams, went out during the game.
16:09And their backup or, you know, their next best option at right guard would be Chase Besantis.
16:15They lost him to a torn ACL at the end of the preseason.
16:20So all of a sudden, the Cardinals offensive line is in severe deterioration mode.
16:24And I just wonder if we've seen the best of the Cardinals offense.
16:29We saw them perform really well in week one against the Chargers.
16:33They played Seattle and didn't perform at all, not surprisingly.
16:36And then in week three against the 49ers, they kind of cooked offensively.
16:41And then Jacoby Brissett, I mean, this was his worst game of the season.
16:45And now Mike LaFleur is being asked in press conferences, hey, when are we going to move on to the next quarterback?
16:53And that's not going to happen yet. And Jacoby Brissett has a great opportunity coming up against Detroit.
16:59He could absolutely play well. But it is only a matter of time before Carson.
17:04I mean, the Cardinals need to get like 10 starts at a Carson Beck this season because they're going to have a high pick in next year's draft.
17:13And they got to make sure that Carson Beck, who performed well during the preseason, you know, that he's not the guy
17:21that they want to go with instead. Yeah. I mean, I think Joey Brissett will play very well despite the offensive line
17:28issues, which are a real concern against the Lions, which is just a joke of a defense right now.
17:35Two more notes for me on the Cardinals. First, Michael Wilson, man.
17:39Another 13 targets here for Michael Wilson. In the last three weeks, Michael Wilson's target shares are 27%, 34%, and 37%.
17:46Trey McBride has benefited massively from Brissett. Michael Wilson has had like his career turned around by Joey Brissett.
17:52And that would be a big concern for me.
17:55But right now, anytime Brissett starts, Michael Wilson and Trey McBride are going to be awesome plays.
18:01Last note from you on the Cardinals. Schefter had a report about the upcoming trade deadline and players that he thinks could be on the block.
18:10He mentioned Marvin Harrison. I don't know if you have any ideas for teams, Evan.
18:15Two that came to mind that could pursue Marvin Harrison for me were Colts, obviously where his dad played.
18:21They need wide receiver help. And Bills, who we'll get to in a minute, seemingly always need wide receiver help.
18:28So those were two that came to mind that could maybe poke around on Marvin Harrison.
18:33But yeah, it's an interesting, like, would you want to trade for Marvin Harrison if you were Colts or Bills or anyone else?
18:41The Colts make all the sense in the world because, I mean, Chris Ballard, everybody there is on the hot seat.
18:48And Chris Ballard has a long history of making trades at the, I mean, he traded for Sauce Gardner this past deadline.
18:56And it looks like Alec Pierce might be out for the year.
19:00And the Colts wide receivers coach is Reggie Wayne.
19:03Marvin Harrison's father's old boy, you know, from Indy.
19:06So that makes all the sense in the world, I think, for Marvin Harrison Jr.
19:11to end up in Indianapolis. Yeah. And it makes sense for the Cardinals to, like, give him a fresh start, you know?
19:18I mean, as much as I've, you know, been hard on him, like...
19:23And that would be a nice situation for Kendrick Bourne, who is Mike LaFleur's boy from San Francisco.
19:29And also, you know, he would be the number two receiver opposite Michael Wilson going forward.
19:34Kendrick Bourne could be useful on a team that, you know, is going to be playing from behind and throwing the ball a lot.
19:42So, story four, let's go to Seattle. Seahawks did let the Chargers hang around in this game.
19:48But they held on for a 30-23 win. This was the first game since Jadarian Price went on IR return with his chest injury.
19:56And Silva was on it. You know, I mentioned this on the solo pod.
20:01But we just, in projection, we just did not have enough work for Emmanuel Wilson versus George Helani.
20:07Emmanuel Wilson, 21 carries, 81 yards and a touchdown rushing.
20:10Also, three catches for 39 yards and a touchdown receiving.
20:14Meanwhile, Helani got just eight opportunities. So, we have Zach Charbetti coming back.
20:18We're going to talk about the mixing thing. But it was certainly a really good day for Emmanuel Wilson.
20:25Evan, thoughts on Seahawks' backfield or anything else from the Seahawks game?
20:29Yeah, and I got to, I mean, Emmanuel Wilson, I watched like every touch of his in this game.
20:35And we really felt fortunate for that screen pass receiving score.
20:39But, you know, Emmanuel Wilson wasn't adding anything to his runs.
20:43I mean, he was just getting what's blocked, running straight ahead and getting as much as he could.
20:49And very fortunate to come out with a big-time outcome because he was not adding anything to what the blocking was giving him.
20:56But, yeah, you know, Zach Charbonnet is coming back.
20:59And one of their coaches was talking today, like, they're really excited to get Zach Charbonnet back.
21:05I think it was Mike McDonald. They're really excited to get him back.
21:10I mean, there's a chance that he could become Seattle's starter if he's good enough to go from a health standpoint.
21:17Yeah. So, Charbonnet is already back in practice. So, they activated his window.
21:21In other words, Seahawks are certain that he will be back in a game sometime the next three weeks.
21:28I do not expect him to play here in week five, but week six or seven for sure.
21:34And once he comes back, like, these guys are coming back so strong from injury.
21:39Chris Bell was on a similar timeline as Zach Charbonnet.
21:42He's already back and playing well in a full-time role.
21:45So, I think Charbonnet is going to have effectively the role that ran Kenneth Walker out of town, which is a lot of high-value situations.
21:54Charbonnet catching the football. Charbonnet playing on passing downs.
21:57Charbonnet playing at the goal line. The other headline here in this backfield was that they added Joe Mixon to their practice squad.
22:05I honestly thought Joe Mixon was done. You know, just like done for his career due to this foot thing.
22:11He's 30 years old. I would not be adding Joe Mixon, I guess is my point.
22:17It's going to be Charbonnet and Helani and Price when he gets back is, I think, what they're going.
22:23I think that's something to go with not Mixon.
22:26Yeah, I'm not expecting anything out of Joe Mixon based on the stuff that we heard that we, you know, passed along to the readers last year.
22:35I'm not expecting anything there. You know who did look really good as a running back in this game was Rashid Shahid.
22:43When they gave him a pitch on the perimeter, they should give him more carries.
22:48I mean, if they're not going to find ways to throw targets to Rashid Shahid, pitch him the ball.
22:54Another awesome return man. Obviously great with the ball in his hands.
22:58Give him three carries a game. I mean, I think he could do some stuff with that.
23:04We saw that against the Chargers. For sure. Schemed touches to Shahid is something I would certainly be doing.
23:11Speaking of, obviously coordinator Brian Fleury, I just wanted to note there was an interesting video.
23:16This was last week before the game. Someone asked Brian Fleury about the A.J.
23:21Barner tush push stuff. And basically what he said was at the half yard line, they like going A.J.
23:27Barner tush push further out than a half yard line.
23:31Maybe not as much. And when we're thinking about goal line carry projections and touchdown projections, it matters if A.J.
23:37Barner is going to be in there at the half yard line for tush push stuff.
23:43So I just wanted to note that. Big game for the Seahawks coming up.
23:47San Francisco versus Seattle this week. Story five. Let's go to Baltimore.
23:52Ravens got out to a big lead over the Titans in the Derrick Henry Bowl.
23:57It looked like they were going to hang a huge number on the Titans.
24:01And then the iceberg hits. Lamar was kind of moving up in the pocket, getting ready to run.
24:07And he got tripped up from behind. Sprained his ankle.
24:11Rap sheet reported Tuesday that Lamar has only an outside chance to play in week five against the Falcons.
24:17Rap sheet said the injury could keep Lamar Jackson out multiple games.
24:21That is scary because a banged up Lamar is not a very good Lamar.
24:26Like when he can't move the way he needs to.
24:29We saw this last year is a problem. So Evan, thoughts on this Lamar situation and any other Ravens thoughts?
24:36Yeah, it hurts. And I think that it seems like it's still up in the air as to when the Ravens expect Lamar Jackson to return.
24:45Rap sheet's report was like, oh, I don't know.
24:48It was just like all over the place. Like week to week.
24:52Like multiple games. Maybe he could be back against Atlanta.
24:55I don't know. We'll see. But my God, on Lamar Jackson's 17-yard run, he was moving faster than any of the other players on the field.
25:04He kind of took a big hit at the end of that.
25:08That was a little bit scary. I wonder if that contributed to this injury.
25:13But, yeah, I mean, we're going to have to deal with Tyler Huntley for a little bit.
25:19And that's not going to be good. I know that Tyler Huntley like made the Pro Bowl back in 2018 or something like that.
25:27But Tyler Huntley is not good. I think he had how many passing yards?
25:32Yeah. 63 passing yards in this game. Tyler Huntley also started two games for the Ravens last year.
25:38He generated 186 pass yards in one, 107 pass yards in the other.
25:42He did run two times. In those two games, he did run 16 times for 113 yards.
25:48But, yeah, it's not good. It's not good. And it sucks for Zay Flowers, who was on his way to being one
25:55of the best wide receivers in the NFL this year.
25:59You know, I liked Zay Flowers. I did not like him as much as Evan because I didn't think that in a
26:06Lamar Jackson offense, Zay Flowers could actually finish as the wide receiver one or wide receiver three or wide receiver five or whatever.
26:14He was on his way, too. And now that is in jeopardy here also.
26:19Sucks. I mean, Zay had— Huge jeopardy. Yeah. I mean, Zay had 118-1.
26:23Most of that was before Lamar left, which was in the first half.
26:27I mean, absolutely. Zay Flowers has been the most productive wide receiver in the NFL on a per-play basis by, like, a large margin so far this season.
26:37Also, the Ravens' offensive line is beginning to crumble.
26:40You know, last week they placed their number one and their number two center, Jovan Gwynn and Ethan Posich on IR.
26:47They moved Vega Ione, their rookie right guard, to center this past week.
26:51And they inserted Andrew Voorhees at right guard. And then Andrew Voorhees got hurt.
26:56So, another team with major offensive line concerns and now having to deal with a backup quarterback.
27:02By the way, you know, I know people are going to ask, what do you think about Derrick Henry with Tyler Huntley?
27:09Only a two-game sample here, but in the games Tyler Huntley started last year, Derrick Henry, 21 carries, 71 yards, two touchdowns in one of them.
27:18In the other one, 36 carries, 216 yards, four rushing touchdowns with Tyler Huntley starting.
27:23Yeah. Let's not overthink it with Derrick Henry, for sure.
27:27All right. Let's go to the NFC now. We will go in alphabetical order, starting with the Atlanta Falcons.
27:33The Michael Penix savior movement continued Monday night. Penix and the Falcons go into the Superdome.
27:38And, I mean, they just destroyed the Saints. 45 to 24.
27:42It wasn't even that close. It has come against the Packers and the Saints.
27:47But in two games since Penix returned, Falcons have scored 80 points.
27:51And racked up 918 yards of offense. I mean, I thought Michael Penix would be a boost.
27:57I know these were two good matchups. I did not think that he would put up this kind of offensive performances.
28:04Evan, thoughts on how sticky this can be with Penix in the game last night?
28:09Well, we're going to be keeping an eye on the injury to Jake Matthews, who left the game with a groin injury.
28:16And Jake Matthews is like the NFL's Ironman. He had not missed a start since 2014, which is an absolutely insane streak of starts.
28:24But this offensive line in Atlanta and the running scheme are on fire right now.
28:29And this is a Bill Callahan run offensive line now.
28:33Kevin Stefanski has a nice history of running super productive running schemes.
28:37Sometimes it's to the point where, again, and we talked about this last week, like Brian Robinson is showing standalone value now.
28:44And the Falcons know where their bread is buttered.
28:47And that's with Bijan Robinson and Brian Robinson. Them being able to involve both of those guys is awesome.
28:54Awesome. And also, Michael Penix has given that. So this is what they want to do.
28:59They want to be extremely run heavy and then run a bunch of play action to get Michael Penix free and throw the ball downfield to Drake London.
29:09And, you know, Jahan Dotson went over. And Kyle Pitts even got a little bit involved in this game.
29:15But that's the formula that the Falcons are relying on right now.
29:19Be extremely run heavy, be very efficient, and then throw the ball off play action.
29:24And it's working the last two games. Yeah. And, I mean, throw it mostly to Drake London.
29:30I mean, the splits with Michael Penix on the field for Drake London are absolutely insane.
29:35Another 30% target share here. London would have gone completely berserk if they needed him to.
29:41They didn't. I mean, Brian and Bijan were unstoppable.
29:44Bijan's first touch of the game, third play of the game, 59-yard touchdown.
29:48It's crazy watching Bijan run. He just, like, never gets taken down by the first guy.
29:54It's so wild. So Michael Penix wasn't great last year.
29:57Before he got hurt. He's been really good through two games.
30:01Now, both in very favorable matchups against Green Bay and New Orleans.
30:05But I wanted to ask you this. Here's a trivia question.
30:08What do Jalen Polk, Roma Dunze, and Jalen McMillan all have in common?
30:13They all got elevated by Michael Penix at the University of Washington.
30:17There you go. I mean, Jalen Polk is already out of the NFL.
30:21Roma Dunze, now he's coming off a nice game, but he's definitely been a disappointment as the number nine pick in the draft.
30:29Jalen McMillan had a, you know, kind of a nice rookie season, but, you know, he hasn't been able to really show anything in the NFL.
30:38Now Michael Penix is showing something. Maybe he did elevate all three of those players' draft positions coming out.
30:44It's fair. Fair for sure. Let's go to Carolina.
30:47So Panthers had one of the best possible matchups in the NFL.
30:51They were home Sunday night football against this horrific Lions defense.
30:55And Bryce Young, again, shreds. This was without Jalen Coker.
30:58Bryce Young was unreal on Sunday night. 329 more passing yards.
31:02Two more passing touchdowns. No interceptions. They're chanting MVP at him.
31:06The fans are chanting MVP at him. He goes in the locker room.
31:10His teammates are chanting MVP at him. This has been an insane turnaround for Bryce Young.
31:16Evan, thoughts on the Panthers game Sunday night. And Bryce Young has faced the easiest pass defense schedule in the NFL through four games.
31:24But what do good passing games do? They absolutely shred, you know, when they're supposed to.
31:29And that's what the Panthers have done. I mean, this was a game where it reminded me of Drew Brees and Marcus Colston.
31:37Bryce Young, that was the comparison among people that really liked him coming out inside the NFL.
31:43Bryce Young was going to be the next Drew Brees.
31:46It's really hard to be Drew Brees because you have to be perfect.
31:51You have to be technically sound in every single way and super accurate.
31:55And you don't make mistakes. But Bryce Young has been that so far.
31:59And then Ted McMillan, they moved him. So last week, the...
32:03God. Brad Idzik. Idzik. Brad Idzik. Yes, I'm sorry.
32:06Brad Idzik was talking about how... Like Denzel Ward had taken Ted McMillan away in the previous game.
32:12He's like, we got to move him around more to get him away from like that tough coverage on the perimeter.
32:19That's exactly what Brad Idzik did in this game.
32:22Ted McMillan had five catches on five targets for 83 yards in the slot in this game.
32:28That's why it kind of reminded me of Marcus Colston because Marcus Colston played so much in the slot.
32:34But I love that Brad Idzik said that he said he was going to do that and he did do that.
32:42And then Ted McMillan goes out there and goes for 192 against the Lions.
32:46That was nine yards short of Steve Smith's all-time franchise record.
32:50But yeah, what an awesome, awesome performance. No Jalen Coker in the game.
32:54Offensive linemen are still dropping like flies. Damian Lewis was out for this game.
32:59Monroe Freeling. The Panthers right tackle. He left during the game.
33:03That's going to be all stuff that we can monitor.
33:06But the Panthers have a bye now. But yeah, I mean, this has been an awesome start for this passing game, no question.
33:14So it was an awesome performance, clearly. They're not going to get to face the Lions every week.
33:20And also Jalen Coker is going to be back.
33:23I'm not even sure Ted Rory McMillan has this game if Coker is active here.
33:28Coker is questionable for week five. So I certainly like these guys.
33:32Obviously, Coker, McMillan, Bryce are really strong fantasy assets.
33:35But clearly, when one of them is out, McMillan or Coker, the other one is going to get a big boost.
33:42It was Bryson Tremaine playing the Coker role here.
33:45But yeah, I mean, I have to issue an apology to Bryce Young.
33:50I mean, I'm sure people could go back and find some really bad things I said about Bryce Young over the previous couple of seasons.
33:58I thought it was over for Bryce Young. When he got benched for Andy Dalton, I was like, that's it, man.
34:05You can't get benched for Andy Dalton and come back and be an NFL MVP candidate or anything close to that.
34:12Shout out to him, man. I was wrong and he came back and he's been unreal.
34:18He's going to get a huge contract. Yeah. Very, very soon.
34:22Another note, Chuba Hubbard, who I was super, super wrong about before the season.
34:26I mean, one of the worst calls I've ever made to not want to draft him.
34:32He has been an electric pick so far. And I mean, he's had everything is gone in his favor.
34:38But, you know, sometimes it goes like that. And Chuba Hubbard has been outstanding so far.
34:44Also, one more note, it's a small note. But Trevor Etienne is due to come off IR after the Panthers buy.
34:51Maybe a pickup in deep, full PPR leagues. Yeah.
34:54Yeah, on the Chuba, I just want to give a shout out to the projections team and everyone who works on the rankings, the ETR rankings and stuff.
35:03It was hard. We had Chuba Hubbard, I believe, like in the 70s or maybe 80 overall.
35:09And Jonathan Brooks, like 120 overall, all offseason. And people were like screaming.
35:13You guys don't know what you're talking about. Jonathan Brooks is a star.
35:18Chuba Hubbard sucks. Like Jonathan Brooks, have you seen his college tape?
35:22And we held strong on that. Thankfully. Chuba was also hurt for like two thirds of training camp.
35:28Exactly. Exactly. And like Brooks was healthy. Chuba was hurt.
35:31Then it flipped. But yeah, it looks like it's going to turn out with Chuba as one of the best picks in
35:39fantasy, at least for the first month and if not for much longer.
35:43All right. Chicago Bears. I mean, Bears dominated the Jets on Sunday.
35:47It was mostly with their defense, though. They win 23 to 12.
35:51I guess the story offensively was their running back spot because DeAndre Swift lost a fumble midway through the third quarter.
35:58He got benched. I mean, outright benched by Ben Johnson did DeAndre Swift.
36:03That allowed Kyle Mononga to rack up 30 carries, 146 yards and two touchdowns.
36:07They even gave Roshan Johnson work as DeAndre Swift watched when Kyle Mononga hurt his thumb late in the game.
36:14So one fumble and he's out here for DeAndre Swift.
36:18Evan, what do you think of how it went for the Bears in the backfield on Sunday?
36:23Well, you said at the top that the Bears won this game mostly with their defense.
36:29And man, you are sounding like a 670 to score radio caller right now because they did not win this game with their defense.
36:37Now, they've had the best third down defense in the NFL so far.
36:41I don't know how sustainable that is, you know, to be that good on.
36:46They just get off the field on third down, period.
36:49They get to third down. They get off the field on third down.
36:54They won this game with their running game because the Jets only ran 32 plays in the entire game and the Bears ran 87.
37:02So the Jets aren't going to be able to generate any offense.
37:06I don't care if they only have 32 plays and the Bears are just running it down willfully, just running it down
37:13their throat, you know, time and time again. The best protection for a bad defense, I still think that the Bears are a bad defense.
37:22Maybe I'm too stuck in my priors, but, you know, they had, I mean, they faced what?
37:28The Vikings, you know, here, I mean, they don't have talent.
37:31So I am betting against the Bears defense going forward.
37:35However, when you have a running game that is this dominant, offensive line that is this dominant where you can lose your
37:42left tackle Braxton Jones, you just plug in Theo Benedict and you're just running it down people's throats over and over again.
37:50You've got two badass running backs to where you can bench the guy that you gave a three year, $37 million contract
37:57on September 12th and just go to the next running back, Kyle Manunga, who's got a massive head, by the way.
38:04I mean, he is just spearheading guys and running.
38:07He looks like Frank Gore out there. I mean, that is a great way to protect your defense.
38:13If you just have the ball the entire game.
38:16Absolutely. I mean, the defense, like Evan said, Jets were 0 for 7 on third downs, but Jets also only had 4.9 yards per play.
38:25They only had seven first downs the entire game.
38:28But yes, Bears had these outrageously, outrageously long drives.
38:31Time of possession was 42 minutes for the Bears, 17 for the Jets.
38:35Caleb Williams is going to be out in week five as well.
38:39They're going to go with Tyson Bajan again. I thought Bajan, I actually thought Bajan would perform better in fantasy.
38:46They just didn't need him to. So I thought he was fine.
38:50Not great. In the passing game, two really notable things, Evan.
38:54The Kalief Raymond thing did not happen here. Just two targets for Kalief Raymond.
38:58Nine targets for Colson Loveland. So 26% share for Colson Loveland.
39:02The Kalief Raymond thing comes back down to earth.
39:05I'm not saying that's going to be sticky. I think it's going to be game to game, but it's great to see on Colson Loveland at least there.
39:15So over their last three games, the Bears have played Carson Wentz in a rainstorm.
39:20The Broken Eagles. And Geno Smith, who had 32 plays in the game.
39:24So I am not, you know, you listen to the radio here.
39:28They're trying to come up with a name for the Bears defense.
39:32You know, like trying to revive the Monsters or the Midway.
39:36Dennis' Menaces is the best that they've done so far.
39:39Named after Dennis Allen, Dennis' Menaces. Yes. To be clear, I do not think their defense is good.
39:45I just think it's possible or likely that Lions, Cowboys are worse.
39:50Especially when they play in Chicago. But yeah, running the ball obviously is going to make a huge difference also.
39:56Well, they've been blitzing a lot. And the blitzes have been working.
40:00And they've been getting off the field on third down.
40:04So that is a winning formula. I don't know if that's sustainable.
40:08We'll see. Yeah, and they're facing maybe the worst offensive line in the NFL this week in the Packers.
40:14Let's go to the Cowboys. So the Cowboys were facing this extremely talented Texans defense in Houston.
40:20And they still put up 34 points in a 34 to 30 win.
40:24CeeDee Lamb was on another planet. 17 catches, 189 yards, and a touchdown on 21 targets in the game.
40:31For CeeDee Lamb here, Evan, what do you think of Cowboys performance in Houston?
40:35Yeah, the Cowboys got creative with CeeDee Lamb in this game.
40:39Moved him into the slot a bunch. He'd been playing outside a fair amount in the first three games.
40:46He was like about 40% in the slot. And he still wound up getting a bunch of yards directly against Derek Stingley.
40:53So he was just on another planet. And his chemistry, when Dak Prescott is cooking and when CeeDee Lamb is 100% healthy,
41:00CeeDee Lamb is as good as anybody. He's going to be as productive as anybody.
41:06He's looking like a steal right now for a guy that was starting to fall into the second round in drafts by the end of draft season.
41:15Yeah, they got an awesome. I did the Buccaneers-Dallas write-up, the Thursday night game this morning before the show.
41:21And I just got excited writing it up because it's going to be another big-time performance from Dak and CeeDee.
41:28And I think Pickens can go off too. Yeah, you mentioned Pickens there.
41:32People are somewhat panicked on George Pickens. He only had three targets in this game while CeeDee had 21.
41:39Pickens did catch a 53-yard bomb. He ran 46 routes in this game, only one fewer than CeeDee Lamb.
41:45I continue to think that George Pickens is a good buy low.
41:49I understand that it's frustrating, but I continue to think he's a good buy low if people are panicked.
41:56Roll has been fine. Yeah, I think you could go nuts on Thursday night.
42:00Buy low on George Pickens right now. Also, Javante Williams, he's playing 75%.
42:05I know he hasn't been super efficient. He's had some very inefficient games.
42:09He was very efficient when he ran against the Ravens.
42:12But otherwise, he hasn't been very efficient. But when a guy is averaging 20 touches a game, 75% of the snaps, in
42:20a really good offense, and leads the NFL in carries inside the five-yard line, he's going to score a lot of touchdowns.
42:27And that is what has carried Javante Williams so far.
42:31And the Cowboys will be getting back Tyler Smith, maybe the best guard in the NFL soon.
42:36Brian Schottenheimer was talking about he can maybe return on Thursday night against Tampa Bay.
42:42I mean, on the Pickens point, the Javante point, all of this, they're going to continue to need to score 30-plus points in games.
42:50I think this is the worst defense in the NFL.
42:53They have faced the Giants, Commanders, Ravens, and Texans.
42:56And the Cowboys are still dead last in yards per play allowed.
43:00So, I mean, we talk about it all the time.
43:04The interaction between a team's defense and offense matters.
43:07And, like, Cowboys defense being so bad is obviously a great thing here.
43:11For ceiling tail outcomes on the past game, Javante, everyone.
43:14Speaking of bad defenses, let's go to the Detroit Lions.
43:18They fall to 2-2 with a loss at Carolina on Sunday Night Football.
43:22I guess the good news, Evan, was Jamison Williams finally got going.
43:26Six catches, 102 yards on eight targets. He had a couple drops, too, which has been an issue for him this year.
43:34Could have been a much bigger game for him.
43:37I know I've said that almost every week about Jamison Williams.
43:40But, yeah, Evan, what do you think of Lions' game on Sunday night?
43:45Yeah, Jamison Williams could have had 200 yards in this game.
43:48And he dropped an early one for a potential 90-yard touchdown early, early.
43:53And they kept going to him, which to me was really reassuring.
43:57The Lions are who we thought they were. And that's like Mike Leach, Texas Tech, Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State.
44:03You know, this team has no defense. I mean, Kelvin Shepard, their defensive coordinator, he needs to start worrying about his job.
44:11And I understand that he has been given, you know, probably the worst back seven in the NFL, due in large part
44:18to injuries and a Terry and Arnold disaster. But, I mean, they're not doing anything right.
44:24You know, we just talked about the Bears. The Bears are more than holding their own with deficient personnel.
44:30And the Lions are not holding their own in the slightest.
44:34But that is great for us in fantasy. Sam Laporte is a smash every week.
44:39I'm on Rod Jamison Williams. Yeah, it was notable to me that Isaac Tesla got eight targets for a 15% share in this game.
44:47That is not normal. He has been a really, really, really bad target earner in his NFL career.
44:53So I'm going to watch that. I don't think it'll be sticky, but I'm going to watch that.
44:59Because if Tesla is going to earn 15% of the targets, it's going to make a big difference.
45:05But yeah, this game against the Cardinals Sunday. I mean, this is a main slate game.
45:11We'll be talking about this on Friday. It's going to be one of the craziest things in DFS just because so many
45:18games are projected to be low scoring. And then you have Lions at Cardinals.
45:23So exciting one there in week six. Packers. Packers went to Tampa and they barely beat a Jalen Daniels-led Bucs team 17-14.
45:30Just an ugly game. I mean, the longest pass play for Jordan Love was a 25-yard pass to backup tight end Mark Redmond.
45:38I mean, no explosives whatsoever for Golden or Watson here.
45:41Evan, what do you think of Packers' performance in Tampa?
45:45Yeah, well, the Packers had... All right, so Jordan Love had 30 dropbacks.
45:49He took zero sacks and was only hit two times.
45:53However, as you mentioned, that came at the expense of explosive plays in the passing game.
45:58And that's the best thing the Packers have going for them.
46:02It's bad. They still try to run the ball, even though they know it's not going to work.
46:08They wrecked up 25 carries. There will be games, though, when they're not facing Jalen Daniels, where the Packers are forced to throw the ball a ton more.
46:17And so I still love Watson, Golden Craft. It's just so concentrated.
46:21They need to be pushed. And they play the Bears on Sunday.
46:25They're way more likely to be pushed there. So still really like these guys.
46:30I know it was kind of a weird game.
46:33They were like, hey, let's force Jalen Daniels. Let's play conservative.
46:37Force Jalen Daniels to beat us. And frankly, that was the right game plan.
46:42I mean, I thought so. Rams. Rams started really slow in Philly.
46:46They found themselves down 20-10 at halftime against a depleted Eagles team.
46:50Then in the fourth quarter, crazy comeback for the Rams.
46:53Kyrie Williams scores twice to win the game 24-20.
46:56I mean, it was a wild scene. The Rams coaches were like in the booth beaking at the Eagles fans.
47:03Really intense game. Evan, what do you think of Rams' late win in Philly?
47:08Well, Puka Nakua is incredible. He comes back from the two-week hip injury, and it's like nothing has changed.
47:14He took, you know, Rick Woolen to the woodshed time and time again.
47:18Kyron Williams has been incredible. And he has something like 22 targets over the last two weeks.
47:24That wasn't necessarily something that was in his bag in previous seasons.
47:28But if they're going to use him like that, I mean, he's going to go absolutely nuclear.
47:34He has waxed Blake Corum over the last two weeks.
47:37That's looking like a big win for the machine in our debates.
47:41But, yeah, Puka Nakua coming back and performing like that was awesome to see.
47:46I think that Matthew Stafford has not played his best football through four weeks.
47:51So we'll see if he can pick it up a little bit.
47:55But Puka Nakua, he's right back in it. Yeah.
47:58On Puka. So the report was he has a pre-hernia.
48:01In other words, at any time, the hernia could pop through and he might need to go through the surgery that Tank
48:09Bigsby is having that we already mentioned and be out six weeks.
48:13I don't know, man. That's like speculation from the Twitter docs, etc.
48:17All I know is that Puka looked incredible and they did not limit him at all.
48:22Shout out to Schefter and Glazer who both reported Sunday morning that Puka would not be limited.
48:28He ended up playing 76 of 84 snaps, ran 49 routes on 54 Stafford dropbacks, handled 12 carries and a goal line carry.
48:36So I don't know, man. I know people are still like freaked out about Puka.
48:41Puka, it's just such a valuable asset to have.
48:44I don't think I'd be trying to sell. And by the way, we had all these other reports like out of L.A.
48:51Matthew Stafford last August, he's on his deathbed, Adam.
48:54He has this back thing. He may not survive.
48:57He may never play football again. Wins the MVP.
49:00Haven't heard anything about the back injury since. So I don't know.
49:05Certainly Puka is not great for Devontae Adams. And, you know, that I believe was another man versus machine debate.
49:11Devontae Adams has scored 39.5 and 20.7 PPR points in two starts without Puka this year.
49:17When Puka has played, Adams has had 5.6 and 7.2 points.
49:20So huge splits there. Obviously still like Devontae Adams, but huge, huge splits there.
49:25Purely. One more note. So prior to week four, Terrence Ferguson went on IR.
49:30So that means he is out for three more games at least.
49:34Tyler Higbee had another good game here. Five for 67 on six targets.
49:38I mean, he's put up fantasy viable, you know, top 12 tight end viable production in two games without Terrence Ferguson was
49:46because we're considering week three a game without Terrence Ferguson because he barely played.
49:51And then Tyler Higbee jumped right into his role.
49:54I think that Tyler Higbee will be a fantasy starter against Buffalo on Monday night.
49:59Buffalo has had major problems at linebacker. The Buffalo fan base is calling for Terrell Bernard to be benched.
50:05All this. I mean, and so, yeah, Tyler Higbee, if you have him, he's going to be a start against Buffalo.
50:12Agreed. And Colby Parkinson also didn't play here, which I think matters for the Tyler Higbee projection because they went to a
50:20ton of 11 personnel, which the Rams, like their old school style.
50:24So Higbee ran 41 routes. Davis Allen ran 13 routes.
50:27Claire round. Claire played just one snap in the game.
50:30Their second round pick, Max Claire, played one snap in the game.
50:34So yes, we know Ferguson is out. If Parkinson is going to be out again, totally agree.
50:40Tyler Higbee, good play. Last thing for me, Evan mentioned the Kyron Williams pass catching.
50:45He has run 99 routes this season, has Kyron, versus 29 for Blake Corum.
50:50Kyron has 21 catches in four games. His previous career high is 36 catches.
50:55Like, he's going to shatter that. And high value touches have been great for Kyron.
51:00I mean, absolutely great. Let's go to Minnesota. Yes, the Vikings played this game without Justin Jefferson, but they were home against
51:07the Dolphins and they failed to score a touchdown.
51:10I know they could have scored if Hawkinson didn't go down at the one on purpose, but this team is now dead last.
51:18The Vikings are dead last in the entire NFL in yards per play.
51:22Despite that, they are 4-0. So Evan, what do you think of Vikings win over the Dolphins?
51:28Just winning on pure defense, pure and simple defense, and not simple defense, highly complex defense.
51:34But a big concern here for me for Minnesota was the loss of left guard Donovan Jackson, who was a first-round pick
51:41a few years ago, and left tackle Christian Derasaw, who left the game with a concussion slash neck injury.
51:47Kyler did kind of settle in as the game progressed.
51:51He started off looking so rocky against Miami, but he did go 13 of 14 for 120 yards with no sacks taken
51:58in the final two drives against Miami. But these offensive line issues really are bothering me.
52:04We'll see on Justin Jefferson. What do you think about Justin Jefferson for week five?
52:09I think he has a legit chance to play.
52:12I'd probably say, as we sit here right now, maybe like 60, 65, 70% chance to play in week five.
52:19One caveat to those completion numbers that I mentioned earlier for Kyler Murray, it was just hitch route after hitch route after hitch route to TJ Hawkinson.
52:28Just easy, easy stuff. I mean, that's a way for Kevin O'Connell to manufacture some offense.
52:33But that's really what happened there, and that's why TJ Hawkinson had a monster game.
52:38Oh, I didn't think Hawkinson had this in him.
52:41I didn't think he was capable of 13 catches for 119 yards on 13 targets.
52:46But yeah, shout out to him without Justin Jefferson facing the Dolphins.
52:50Yeah, on Kyler. Well, they essentially ran their passing offense through TJ Hawkinson in this game.
52:56And you know, it's somewhat scary to me for Jordan Addison that that was the game plan, because this was the best spot of Jordan Addison's career.
53:05You're home, you're facing Miami, and there's no Justin Jefferson.
53:08And Addison still only had a 16% target share.
53:11Only four catches were 52 yards. So yeah, that was a red flag for me on Addison.
53:17I still think, I know we mentioned it last week, I still think there's a very good chance Carson Wentz gets under
53:24center at some point for this team. Kyler Murray is dead last in QBR this season.
53:30He's 23rd, he was 23rd among 29 qualifiers in 2025 in that category before getting benched for Jacoby Brissett.
53:36So I want to see Kyler with Justin Jefferson for a full game or multiple full games.
53:42But yeah, it's just not good. Oh man, Aaron Jones, 28 more opportunities here for Aaron Jones.
53:48The Vikings have a bye in week six, and Jordan Mason is expected back in week seven.
53:54But yeah, it's hard not to project another huge workload for Aaron Jones here in week five.
53:59Saints. I thought it was a really concerning performance from the Saints last night.
54:04They could not protect Tyler Shuck against a weak Falcons pass rush.
54:08They managed just 10 points through three quarters. They get some garbage time stuff, but they lose the game.
54:15They're now one and three. It was a really concerning watch, Evan.
54:19Like hard for me to watch. I know that a lot of I ended up getting there and Shuck ended up getting there okay.
54:27And Juwan was okay and Vele was good, but it was still concerning.
54:31Watch, Evan, what you think of Saints performance last night.
54:34Yeah, this is becoming a recurring theme though for the Saints.
54:38I mean, they've generated so much second half production this season.
54:42That was part of the thesis. I mean, we were big on the Saints before the year, but that was part of the thesis.
54:50They play in a dome. Their defense might be bad.
54:53You know, they want to run a ton of plays.
54:57They've got weapons in the passing game. Juwan Johnson continues to be an excellent weekly start.
55:02Devon Vele, my God, I know it was in garbage time, but you see the toe tap touchdown.
55:08That won me a fantasy matchup. Obviously, Olave is awesome.
55:12Olave did get dinged up late in the game, but he was going through the post-game stuff.
55:17I think that he'll be all right. But you've got to live with this because this is who the Saints are.
55:24It's nice that Kellen Moore didn't take out the starters.
55:28And people were complaining about that on Twitter and stuff, but that's good for us because we need them to keep racking up stuff.
55:36But yeah, I mean, they got there, but this is part of the thesis.
55:41Yeah. This was the first game without Travis Etienne, and Alvin Kamara just does what he does, which is high-value touches.
55:48He had two short touchdowns, and he had five catches.
55:51Don't get me wrong. Alvin Kamara is one of the worst running backs in the NFL, but he's going to get high-value touches.
55:59He's not making anyone miss anymore. I mean, it's brutal, but goal line carries and catches.
56:04You're viable in fantasy if you get that stuff, period.
56:08Also, Kendra Miller, early in the game, horrible lost fumble, deep in Saints territory that led directly to a Falcons touchdown.
56:15I don't know if we're going to see much Kendra Miller the rest of the way.
56:20They have to play the Vikings Sunday. You know, that's going to be an impossible spot for Alvin Kamara, but yeah.
56:27Oh, last thing on Saints. So, Underhill reported that he spotted Jordan Tyson sprinting, stop his starting as he comes off his hamstring injury.
56:35Schefter then put out a story that made it sound like the most likely return date for Jordan Tyson is week nine.
56:43Because, remember, Saints play in Paris in week seven.
56:46Highly doubt you want to bring him back for that.
56:49And then you have a bye in week eight.
56:52So, I still think week nine is the most likely scenario, but it's really good to see Jordan Tyson out there running
57:00and sprinting off of the hamstring stuff here already.
57:03Underhill also said that he recently saw Jordan Tyson dunk.
57:06Good. So, there's another positive. Good. I mean, Jordan Tyson, I know, like, this was the knock on him and why people
57:14said we were too high on Jordan Tyson was because of the injuries.
57:18But if he did not get hurt, he'll be going berserk right now.
57:22Oh, my God. He'd be crushing. But I think that Vela has played so well that it's, like, worth having an actual
57:30conversation about, you know, now they can maybe feel like they can ease Jordan Tyson in.
57:35Yeah. I don't disagree. I think Vela is a player, man.
57:39And, yeah, you know, they're going to play both.
57:42I mean, like, I would not, to your point, I would not be shocked if when Jordan Tyson comes back, they ease
57:50him in a bit because Vela has played so well.
57:53Giants. Jameis Winston and the Giants hang 36 on the Cardinals Sunday.
57:57Giants are now 3-1. We got a bit of the vintage Jameis experience here.
58:02You know, he threw three touchdowns. He threw for 250 yards.
58:05He had 8.6 yards per attempt. But he also got picked off twice and took four sacks.
58:11But, like, my point is when these games get loose and the Giants have to drop Jameis back a decent amount and
58:19he got 33 dropbacks here, he's going to sling it.
58:22And he's going to get you things like Malik Nabors, 112 yards, and a touchdown on six catches.
58:28Evan, what do you think of Giants game Sunday?
58:31Yeah, I don't have anything really to add to that.
58:34You know, I mean, I agree with all that.
58:38And that's pretty much the extent of the passing game analysis, I think.
58:42Najee Harris had a bad fumble in this game.
58:45And I wonder if that will lead to an eventual reduction in playing time.
58:50They've been trying to work him in. Devin Singletary was inactive for this game.
58:54But, yeah, I mean, it's the Jameis Winston experience.
58:57We've seen it so many times. We love it for Malik Nabors when it's going well.
59:03We also know that the Giants don't want to play that way.
59:07But when they do, it's going to be great for Malik Nabors.
59:11Yeah, and one big thing was, like, there was some talk after last week that there was something wrong with Winston's arm.
59:18It was good to see him at least, like, put that to bed.
59:23And if they can keep winning, he'll keep J.J.
59:26McCarthy off the field for longer, which obviously I think is good for Nabors, too.
59:31I actually thought Nabors was a decent sell last week in season-long formats, mostly on the fear that McCarthy would get in
59:38soon, that Nabors' knee isn't right, the coaches are boomers.
59:42I probably should have called for Nabors as a sell after this stretch where he played Cardinals last week, Commanders this week, and then Saints.
59:50But then at Texans, at Eagles. So, yeah, certainly some good spots here for Nabors and Jameis.
59:56Niners. Niners improved to 4-0 with a very strong defensive performance against the Broncos.
60:01They win 24-14. Best play of the game on offense for the Niners, to me, was the George Kittle 56-yard touchdown catch.
60:08If you did not realize that Kittle was fully back off the Achilles, that was kind of the play that made everybody
60:16be like, oh my God, Kittle is all the way back.
60:19Evan, what do you think of Niners' latest win?
60:22Yeah, I mean, I think that a large reason why the 49ers won this game so handily was because the Broncos' offense
60:30is an absolute train wreck, which we will talk about when we get to them.
60:35But, yeah, I mean, Brock Purdy has not even taken a sack through four games.
60:40The 49ers' offensive line has not had a single injury, I don't believe, so far this season, which not a lot of offensive lines can say that.
60:49Mike Evans, he's got that dog in him, and you can't take the dog out of Mike Evans.
60:55And George Kittle is an absolute freak of nature, what, nine or ten months removed from a torn Achilles.
61:02And I think Debo Samuel looks decent. I mean, they're actively giving him two, three carries a game, and he's using those productively.
61:09So I think he's a fantasy starter right now.
61:12With the way that this offense is functioning and with how much he's playing, Debo Samuel is, like, at very worst, a wide receiver three slash flex.
61:21There's just not a lot of other places for the ball to go.
61:26Mike Evans came into this game with a rib issue.
61:29He did take a big hit over the middle that I saw.
61:33He kind of got up a little slow, but he seemed to be okay.
61:38After the game, Niners confirmed Evans did not aggravate the rib issue and expect him to be healthier in week five.
61:45So that's good on Mike Evans. Other note that I had was in some big spots, like third quarter, tie game, there
61:53was a third and one and a fourth and one.
61:56Kalen Black was in there and got those carries, not Christian McCaffrey.
62:00McCaffrey did come in and get a goal line carry on a second down later on that drive.
62:06He got stuffed. Black came in for the third down.
62:09So I still love Christian McCaffrey. He's still an awesome, awesome play.
62:14We're still going to have him very high in the rest of season top 150.
62:19I just want to note there's been some big spots where Kalen Black was in there in this game.
62:25Well, you know, them throwing easy stuff to Dean Bo Samuel and giving him handoffs isn't great for Christian McCaffrey either.
62:32When, you know, we know that Christian McCaffrey isn't as explosive as he was squarely in his prime.
62:38And also when we're talking about dividing, you know, deciding between him and these other elite running back ones.
62:45I mean, I still think that Christian McCaffrey is, you know, in the, maybe the second tier of the elite running back
62:52ones, but he's toward the bottom of that tier.
62:55Yeah. And at Seattle, huge, huge game. I'll be very curious to see the McCaffrey usage in this game.
63:02You know, obviously one of the biggest games of the year here coming up on Sunday, Niners at Seahawks.
63:08Bucks. So Jalen Daniels, the undrafted free agent out of Kansas started this game and it does not go well.
63:15He threw two interceptions. He took three sacks. He managed 148 passing yards in a 17-14 home loss to the Packers.
63:22Because Daniels did run eight times for 55 yards, but I think it went kind of as we expected here.
63:29Evan, what do you think of Jalen Daniels? Any other Bucks thoughts?
63:33I think it could have been a lot worse.
63:36I think that Jalen Daniels kind of handled himself well, all things considered.
63:40And, you know, the Bucks might have stumbled upon like a quality backup, you know, for Baker Mayfield, who they just signed
63:47to an extension, but is obviously injured right now.
63:51There was a report from James Palmer that, all right, so the Bucks have this game on Thursday night against Dallas.
63:58And then they have a 10-day break before Pittsburgh.
64:01James Palmer reported that Baker Mayfield could be back for week six against Pittsburgh, which would be good news for the passing game members.
64:09I don't even think against Dallas that you can use Egbuka or any of the other Bucks pass catchers with Jalen Daniels at quarterback.
64:17God, you know, they're playing the Cowboys. How could I not start a Mac Egbuka against the Cowboys?
64:23But I hear you. It's really going to be a tough click.
64:27Yeah, it's going to be a really tough click on both him and Godwin.
64:32The other story here, non-pass game related, Sean Tucker was back for the Bucks.
64:36He got two short yardage carries. Sean Tucker scored a touchdown from two yards out.
64:42That is not good for Bucky Irving, you know, that Sean Tucker is back as a short yardage goal line guy.
64:49And then also Bucky had zero catches in this game.
64:52Obviously, that's partly due to Jalen Daniels starting. But Kenny Gainwell was in late game hurry up.
64:58Kenny Gainwell caught a touchdown from Jalen Daniels. So I was excited about Bucky's usage coming out of week one, week two.
65:05It's gotten worse here for Bucky lately. Yeah, this was the fear.
65:09You know, the preseason fear on Bucky Irving was the high value touches, no targets.
65:14And he hasn't played a snap inside the 10-yard line since week one.
65:19So, I mean, look, you got to use Bucky Irving against Dallas.
65:23But it's worry time, I think, for Bucky Irving in terms of those high value touches.
65:28Yeah. I mean, he needs Baker back, and I think things will settle down.
65:33But, yeah, it's tough right now. And then Todd Bowles after the game was like, we need to get Sean Tucker the ball more.
65:41I don't even believe anything Bowles says. I feel like he just— All right, fair enough.
65:46You know what? That's totally fine. I agree. He just says stuff just to say stuff.
65:52It's wild. Like, all right. Last NFC team is the Washington football team, a.k.a.
65:57The Commanders. This was the London game on Sunday morning.
66:00Commanders were actually playing well early in this game when Marcus Mariota was in there.
66:05Marcus Mariota goes down with a knee injury. They're forced to go to Athan Kalikamanis, the Baklava bomber out of Greece.
66:12They end up losing 30-13 to the Colts. Evan, what did you think of the Commanders game in London Sunday morning?
66:19Did you say the Baklava bomber? That's what they're calling him, the Baklava bomber, yes.
66:24Unbelievable. I thought he was the Greek canon, but I like the Baklava bomber much more.
66:30Yeah, I mean, I don't—you know, this offense looks shot right now.
66:34I mean, they're using four running backs. None of them are good.
66:38McClurin was out. You know, and they're down to the Baklava bomber at quarterback.
66:43So it's just like there's no hope. It sounds like Jaden Daniels has a real chance to be back in Week 5,
66:50and that's where the hope stems from. Well, that's what I was going to say.
66:55They're home against the Giants in Week 5, and I kind of think Jaden Daniels is going to play in this game.
67:03And that would be exciting. And I think they're going to get Rashad White back here.
67:08I will note that with Rashad White out, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt did something he's never really done before.
67:14Be an actual threat in the passing game. JCM four targets in this game with Rashad White out.
67:20But as I said, do think Rashad White's going to be back this week.
67:24Hopefully Jaden Daniels. And then McClurin, we'll see. This was an injury that McClurin sustained during Friday's practice.
67:31I'm not sure the severity there. Commanders went to a four-wide receiver rotation in this game.
67:36Diggs, Antonio Williams, Traylon Burks, and Deami Brown. So yeah, a lot of moving parts here for the Commanders.
67:42Their defense is so bad. Getting Jaden back, it's still like a spot that I want to watch.
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69:11Let's flip it over to the AFC now. Start with the Buffalo Bills.
69:16This was a pretty bad loss, I thought, for the Bills.
69:19Home versus a weapon deficient Patriots team. No A.J.
69:22Brown again, obviously. Bills lose 29-26. Also in this game, DJ Moore aggravated his shoulder injury.
69:28Evan, what do you think of Bills' loss to their division rival Patriots?
69:32Well, the Bills have big-time problems on defense, and I think that that's being exposed on a weekly basis at this point.
69:40They've got two stud defensive linemen in Dion Walker and Greg Rousseau.
69:44But the further that you get back in the Bills' defense, the more problems that they have.
69:50Obviously, that was exacerbated by no Christian Benford in this game.
69:53But Maxwell Harrison got took to school. This is good for fantasy, though.
69:58This is good stuff for fantasy. The Bills did not play their best game for the second week in a row offensively.
70:05But I think that ultimately that's going to be a good thing for fantasy.
70:10More shootouts is good news for Josh Allen and company.
70:13Starting to get worried about this DJ Moore injury.
70:16They're not saying it's serious or anything, but this is the second time he's had an issue with his left shoulder.
70:23He kind of like spiked his helmet. He was mega tilted.
70:27And even despite that, even with DJ Moore leaving early, Don Kincaid, just two targets.
70:32The guy who benefited most and continues to benefit most when DJ Moore is out is Keon Coleman.
70:38Keon Coleman in four quarters without DJ Moore, 30% of the targets.
70:42Shakir, 17%. James Cook, 13%. Palmer, 13%. Kincaid, 13%.
70:45That was via Daigle. For what it's worth, after the game, Joe Brady was asked about Don Kincaid's lack of involvement.
70:52And he said, quote, I have to be better.
70:55There's no reason Don Kincaid should have two targets, especially with the flow of the game.
71:01I can't deny, though, that Keon Coleman played a really good game and continues to play well and show that he can play at the NFL level.
71:10Six catches, 116 yards, and a touchdown here. Evan, any panic for you on Kincaid?
71:15I mean, it's disappointing, but the good news is that Joe Brady is well aware of it, as you mentioned, and I
71:22mean, you know, Don Kincaid running 17 routes in a game and seeing two targets, especially in a game where DJ Moore leaves early again, that is unacceptable.
71:32It does sound like Joe Brady knows it, though.
71:35Kincaid was wide open in the end zone, by the way, and Allen just didn't see him.
71:41I mean, wide open from like six yards out, and Allen just didn't see him.
71:46So we might not even be having this conversation if not for that.
71:50Sorry, go ahead. So the Bills got to fix these problems that they have.
71:55They got the Rams coming up in L.A. What it seems like is happening to me with DJ Moore is that his shoulder is popping out.
72:04You know, that's what happens with these shoulder subluxations, you know, the dislocations, and they can play through it, but then if
72:11it keeps popping out, they got to leave the game.
72:15Yeah. I mean, is it possible that the light has flipped on for Keon Coleman here?
72:20Yeah. I mean, it certainly looks that way. Like, I'm still skeptical about him long term, but when you play with Josh
72:27Allen, certainly your talent can be elevated. And if he's going to be a featured player, that's great.
72:33I just think that the featured player stuff is going to bounce around all season like it has been the last few years for the Buffalo Bills.
72:43Last note for me here. James Cook was good in this game, I thought.
72:47But man, two yards out, two yards, not one yard out, not half yard, two yards out, they ran a tush push with Josh Allen.
72:56It's just tough. And like Ty Johnson played here.
72:59So James Cook only ran 12 routes on 36 dropbacks, and he lost that two yard.
73:04Like I thought from the two, they would go to James Cook, but they went to Allen.
73:10So I just wanted to flag that on James Cook.
73:13Still an awesome, awesome asset. But yeah, should be so much more.
73:17He's such a good player. Bengals. Bengals mustered just 17 points against the Jaguars, fall to two and two.
73:24I thought the game turned, you know, at least a little when Jamar Chase sustained the concussion on, I don't want to
73:31say dirty play, but just an ugly, nasty face mask from Jarius Jones.
73:36He gets hit from behind as he's getting his head like twisted back the wrong way, head slams into the turf.
73:43Bengals offense just not as efficient without Jamar Chase.
73:46Of course, I'm not sure what his status will be for week five.
73:50He's in the protocol. Evan, what do you think of Bengals loss to the Jaguars?
73:55Yeah, well, the Bengals offense hasn't been very efficient through four games.
73:59And, you know, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins had been healthy until this point.
74:04They both got hurt in this game. And I think that some of it may have to deal with, definitely some of
74:11it has to do with the fact that the Bengals, historically, they've been almost a shotgun only offense.
74:18They've been trying to do more under center plays.
74:21They spent a ton of their offseason trying to implement more under center plays so they can be better in play action.
74:28It can help the running game. It can slow down the pass rush.
74:32But it has been extremely ineffective on the under center plays so far this year.
74:38They have the lowest yards per play in the NFL.
74:41So I wonder if the Bengals are probably going to scrap that.
74:45That actually might be a good thing. What we have to talk about is that the Bengals have the Dolphins coming up next and then a bye week.
74:54And they've got T. Higgins dealing with the groin injury, the adductor injury, and Jamar Chase dealing with the concussion.
75:01Are we going to be talking about Mike Jacecki and Dante Myers?
75:05Because I kind of think that we will be.
75:08Yeah, so I'd consider Jamar Chase questionable. They're calling T.
75:12Higgins day to day. So not a serious injury on him.
75:15Dante Myers ran 54 routes in this game in week four.
75:19And he played well. You know, seven catches, 82 yards on nine targets.
75:23He is an undrafted free agent out of Delta State.
75:275'11", 186. First, he went to the CFL. And then he played so on the CFL, he got to try it with the Bengals.
75:35Made the team. And now he might start. And now he might be in play in DFS.
75:41Like, that is a crazy, crazy story that you do not often see here on Dante Myers.
75:46Yeah, he won the Grey Cup with the Saskatchewan Rough Riders this past year.
75:51I was looking at his combine measurables. He's little and he ran 4-5-4, which that's not good.
75:57But you see him play. He looks like, I mean, he's got some serious juice, I think, just from seeing him play.
76:04So, yeah, I think there's a good chance that he will be in play in DFS against Miami, depending on the health of Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase.
76:14Yeah. Joe Burrow dropped back 58 times in this game and they called 13 runs.
76:19Again, 58 dropbacks against 13 runs. Burrow, 428 yards, but some really bad decisions.
76:24One in the red zone that was an awful interception, too.
76:27I also did want to note they did a tush push with Burrow at the goal line.
76:33I was surprised they did that. You know, that was notable for Chase Brown, who ran nine times for 10 yards, did
76:41salvage his fantasy day in a big way with 11 catches for Chase Brown here in this game.
76:47Browns. This was the Thursday game, Evan, and Deshaun Watson, I didn't think he was capable of this.
76:53Deshaun Watson, another very good game. Browns beat the Steelers on a late field goal, 27-24.
76:58Browns are now 3-1. Their wins are over Pittsburgh, Carolina, and Tampa.
77:02But Deshaun Watson is completing almost 70% of his passes.
77:06His quarterback rating is up over 100 now. So, Evan, are you buying this Deshaun Watson resurgence?
77:11What do you think of Browns game on Thursday?
77:14I'm buying that Deshaun Watson can support now at this point.
77:18And I was worried about this, very worried about this before the season.
77:22Number one, that he could hold off Shadur Sanders.
77:26Number two, that he could support a decent game from Casey Concepcion.
77:30Denzel Boston has been really good in three of the Browns' four games.
77:34Harold Fannin has been getting into the end zone.
77:37So that's what I'm buying from Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson is running a lot, but he's not like a – I don't
77:44think he's as explosive as a runner as he used to be.
77:48He has a lot of rushing attempts, though. Yeah, almost eight per game.
77:53It's crazy. Yeah, so – but, yeah, I just wanted some level of functionality from this Browns passing game so that we could use guys like Casey Concepcion.
78:02And I think that Todd Monken has given us that, and Deshaun Watson is playing well enough to maintain that, hopefully.
78:09Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Boston and Concepcion ran 37 routes each in this game.
78:14Jerry Judy, 19 routes. And I mentioned earlier that article from Schefter about trade candidates.
78:19He had Jerry Judy in there as another trade candidate, you know, in all the same teams, all the same wide receiver teams.
78:27May at least poke around here on Jerry Judy, who the Browns clearly should be trading.
78:32Anyway, last note I had on Browns, Quinshon Junkins without Dylan Sampson is just getting such a better opportunity to catch the football.
78:40He's playing more snaps. He's getting more targets. Last three weeks, Quinshon Junkins, who a lot of people, including myself, kind of
78:48pegged as a two-down, you know, run-only type of back, 14 targets for a 15% share over the last three weeks for Quinshon Junkins.
78:56With Sampson healthy for most of last year, Junkins only got 8% of the passes.
79:01Junkins is now on pace to catch 64 balls.
79:04He caught 26 balls all of last year. So big, big change.
79:08Didn't catch passes in college either. Big change. I mean, it's huge for his value.
79:13Huge, huge. Broncos. I mean, Evan teased this earlier.
79:16Broncos' offense continues to be a major problem. Broncos had three points through three quarters against the 49ers.
79:22Bo Nix is down to 60% completion percentage, 6.1 darts per attempt.
79:26That is way off of his numbers from his first two NFL seasons.
79:31Evan, thoughts on what's wrong with this Broncos' offense right now?
79:34Yeah, well, I know that in some circles, like, Dan Orlovsky is, like, kind of a meme.
79:40But when he does actual game tape analysis, he can be really, really good.
79:45And he did a segment recently on Bo Nix analyzing his week four.
79:49And it's just, there are guys running wide open through the scheme, and Bo Nix is not pulling the trigger.
79:56You know, period. And, you know, that's Jalen Waddell.
79:59And he ends up dumping down to R.J. Harvey over and over and over again when Jalen Waddell or Sutton or Pat
80:06Bryan or whomever is running wide open down the field.
80:10And Bo Nix just turns down the throws. So, and it's sad because, you know, he is getting good pass protection.
80:17The Broncos, they're another team that has not had an injury on the offensive line, I don't believe.
80:23And they're really talented in terms of pass protection, and Bo Nix is just not pulling the trigger.
80:29And it's got to be really, really frustrating for the coaches.
80:33Davis Webb, I'm sure, is getting a ton of heat right now in Denver when really the culprit is Bo Nix.
80:40Yeah. He's not doing that, like, off-script stuff. I feel like that's when Bo Nix has been best in his career, off-script.
80:47When he's in the pocket, yeah, it has not been good.
80:51On the R.J. Harvey thing that Evan mentioned, it kind of struck me as, like, a Darren Sproles type thing.
80:5810 catches for 68 yards for R.J. Harvey. Harvey missed a game this year.
81:03He's only played in three of them. He still leads the team in catches with 20.
81:08I mean, Jalen Waddell has 16 catches in four games.
81:11Now, Pat Bryan is going to be out. Ankle injury, he went to IR return.
81:16By the way, Patrick Sertan also went on IR return.
81:20Obviously, one of the best, if not the best, cornerbacks in the entire league.
81:24But, yeah, I'd love to see more focus on getting Jalen Waddell the ball.
81:29It'll be Marvin Mims and Troy Franklin subbing for Pat Bryan.
81:33But, yeah, as of now, I mean, this offense is not condensed, and it's bad.
81:38And that is a recipe for really trouble here in fantasy.
81:42Yeah, and as for J.K. Dobbins, you know, the thesis on J.K.
81:46Dobbins is built around the Broncos having a good defense and playing with positive game script, and they haven't done that enough this year.
81:54And then you have R.J. Harvey playing a ton.
81:57J.K. Dobbins is going to be dust, you know, for the foreseeable future.
82:01This Sertan injury, Evan, do you think we should be affecting projections on wide receivers that face the Broncos?
82:08They play the Chargers this week. In other words, how big do you think this Sertan to IR return is?
82:15Well, Riley Moss, one of the better number two cornerbacks in the NFL, gets targeted a ton, so he ends up giving up a lot of yards.
82:24So people are like, oh, we allow this much yards?
82:27But he actually is really good. He also suffered a rib injury in this game.
82:32So it's possible that we get a situation where the Broncos are going to be without their best two cornerbacks.
82:39I don't know about the Chargers, though. I mean, I have no faith whatsoever in the Chargers.
82:45We will get to them and their offensive line issues.
82:48But yes, I mean, the Broncos are reeling in the secondary right now.
82:52Yeah, both sides of the ball. All right, Texans.
82:55So CJ Stroud got Nico Collins back for this dream spot, home against the Cowboys.
83:00And Stroud delivered. Huge game. 347 yards, two touchdowns on just 31 attempts.
83:05Texans scored 30 points in this game. And the defense lets them down in a 34-30 loss to the Cowboys.
83:12Evan, what do you think of Texans' performance Sunday?
83:15Yeah, the Texans have been giving up a ton of explosive plays on defense.
83:19And that has kind of helped the fantasy production.
83:22I mean, CJ Stroud has been throwing for a lot of yards this year.
83:27And then that's going to be good for Nico Collins, who was an absolute beast in his first game back from the hamstring.
83:35Nico is so valuable. I mean, the offense is like dead without Nico.
83:39He comes back, seven catches, 118 yards, two touchdowns on eight targets.
83:43It allows other guys to stick in their secondary roles.
83:47And speaking of secondary roles, at long last, Jalen Knoll, 24 routes on 35 dropbacks.
83:52That was the same number as Booty and Hutchinson.
83:55So good to see on Jalen Knoll. The Dave Montgomery people are down bad, Evan.
84:00I mean, even in a leading script, even in a really good matchup, Texans were up 16-6 at halftime, 23-13 in the third quarter.
84:08And Dave Montgomery still only outcarried Woody Marks 10-6.
84:11Dave Montgomery, 2.7 yards per carry on the season.
84:14I know we talked about this last week, but it's going to be a really tough click on Dave Montgomery.
84:21He's either going to score a touchdown or you're going to be in trouble.
84:26I mean, that's kind of the way it is right now.
84:29Yeah, to me, he's almost an impossible click right now.
84:33He looks totally washed. I mean, he's getting hit in the backfield a ton, Dave Montgomery is.
84:39But he's not making any one miss. I didn't see his broken tackle numbers in this game yet.
84:45I'll look those up for the matchup column. But through three games, he had three missed tackles forced in the first three games.
84:52You know how many missed tackles Kenneth Walker forced in his first game of the season?
84:5815. Okay, so it just might be over for Dave Montgomery.
85:01I think the Texans realize that. That's why you see Nick Cesario, a GM, coming out and saying, we need to get the ball to Woody Marksmore.
85:11This is not working. The Texans have an analytics department too.
85:14You know, and the Texans can watch the film and be like, this is not going to happen for Dave Montgomery.
85:21I think that they're maybe slowly but surely acknowledging that.
85:25Yeah, and it just goes back to the dead zone stuff.
85:29Like the only reason to pick Dave Montgomery in fantasy was projectable workload.
85:33Literally, the only reason. And now as we see, if you're not good, projectable workload can go away very quickly.
85:40Colts. Colts went to London and beat the injury-ravaged commanders 30-13.
85:43This was supposed to be the breakout game for Josh Downs, Evan.
85:47No Keenan Allen. No Alec Pierce. Commanders have a horrific secondary.
85:51Downs, only four targets for a concerning 11.7% target share.
85:55Three catches, 16 yards. How concerning for you was this Josh Downs game?
85:59Anything else on the Colts? It was not concerning for me about Josh Downs.
86:04It was a major disappointment because I have a ton of Josh Downs.
86:08And I was like, oh, baby, this matchup is hot.
86:11But it just happens sometimes. I mean, especially when the quarterback plays like Daniel Jones did.
86:17Daniel Jones was horrible in this game. So things are going to – when there's not a functional passing game to begin
86:24with, you can't expect the members of the passing game to be able to function at the level that you expect.
86:31And so just hoping for better performance from Daniel Jones going forward.
86:35Yeah. I mean, it was concerning to me that Downs got out-targeted by Laquan Shredwell and Ashton Doolin.
86:42You know, that concerns me. But I, you know, at 5'9", 171, like being a huge target earner, getting downfield, it's just hard, you know.
86:50So I still love Josh Downs. I think he's awesome.
86:53I question the ceiling. But, you know, I've noted that for a while.
86:58Oh, Tyler Warren. They cannot get Tyler Warren the ball downfield.
87:01I mean, every pass to him is like right around the line of scrimmage.
87:06His average depth of target on the season, Tyler Warren, 2.3 yards.
87:10Like, we have to get him play action over the middle, at least like some balls, 10, 12 yards over the middle
87:18if he's going to be a real fantasy asset.
87:21Jaguars. Really good win for the Jaguars in Cincinnati, 22-17.
87:24Fantasy story to me was Bayshel Tootin getting robbed.
87:27I mean, he had a fine game, 19 touches for 91 yards.
87:31He had a 44-yard touchdown run called back by holding.
87:35He had another short touchdown run called back by holding.
87:38Yes, there were good calls. Yes, it was actually holding.
87:41But still, like, Bayshel Tootin is very, very close to absolutely popping off here, I think, having what you think of Jaguars' win in Cincinnati.
87:50Yeah, it's just a matter of time with Bayshel Tootin.
87:53He looks great. I mean, he almost had it here, you know, for the reasons that you already mentioned.
88:00The Jaguars' offensive line has been great so far.
88:03Bayshel Tootin looks super explosive. Chris Rodriguez had a nice touchdown run in this game, although he didn't have to really do
88:10a whole lot of work on that. He did show some burst on that run.
88:15But this is Bayshel Tootin's backfield largely, and it's just a matter of time before he goes off.
88:21He might still be, like, an excellent bye right now.
88:25The Jaguars look like maybe they're the best team in the AFC.
88:29I mean, they're playing awesome on defense, you know, and they've played awesome for an extended stretch dating back to the second half of last year.
88:37They are a really legit, good team, and Bayshel Tootin is balling.
88:42I would agree with Bayshel Tootin as a bye right now if anyone is selling.
88:47We'll talk more about that on the rest of the season's Top 150 show.
88:51Tomorrow, I know people are worried about Parker Washington.
88:54I kind of think this was just one of those games.
88:58Like, the Bengals funnel everything to tight ends. You know, Brenton Strange here had eight targets for a 35% share, while Parker Washington got just three targets.
89:07I'm not worried about it. I still think Parker Washington's a really, really, really good fantasy asset.
89:13But, um, Shepter did not mention Brian Thomas Jr.
89:16Actually, I think he might have. I can't remember.
89:19I don't want to say either way. But, um, Brian Thomas Jr., 23 routes here, verse 9 for Josh Cameron.
89:26That was good to see for Brian Thomas. I know you're going to love this.
89:31One of the big issues for Parker Washington is that, here's a stat from Rich Rebar.
89:36Trevor Lawrence has 14 total fourth quarter dropbacks through four games.
89:40He's dropped back to pass 14 times because the Jaguars are so good.
89:44Dominant. I mean, that is, you know, that's why we love the Lions.
89:49You know, that's why we love the Saints is because Tyler Shocks is going to drop back 25 times in the fourth quarter, you know, of one game.
89:58So, um, that is working against Parker Washington. Like, make no mistake, it was 23 dropbacks in this game for Trevor Lawrence, 27 dropbacks.
90:06Um, the Jaguars are really, really good, and that's going to work against the pass catcher.
90:12Speaking of pass catchers, how about ex-pass catcher Travis Hunter just breaking the ankles of T.
90:17Higgins on his interception? Have you watched the Travis Hunter playing basketball highlights yet?
90:22You haven't, have you? I haven't. Just go look at it on, like, do a Twitter search and find it.
90:29You will be blown away. I mean, he would have been the best player on Colorado's basketball team.
90:35I have no doubt. Colorado's, like, they make the tournament.
90:38I mean, I don't know if he could play in the NBA, but, I mean, just his athleticism is outrageous, and he's
90:46become, through four games, he's been one of the best cornerbacks in the league.
90:50I think we're going to see him stay there.
90:53Yeah, clearly. He played zero offensive snaps here in this game, did Travis Hunter.
90:58I know they'll be excited about this one, Evan.
91:01Jaguars' next two games, not one, next two games are in London.
91:05So they're basically moving the franchise to London for the next three weeks or so.
91:10Get out there. Get yourself acclimated. They're playing one game at Tottenham and one game at Wembley.
91:16Eagles and Texans next two games in London for the Jaguars.
91:20Two updates that have come into the show as we're recording here.
91:24Mike Garofalo is reporting that Jaden Daniels will start in week five, so that's good news.
91:29Schefter just reported that Seahawks decided not to sign Joe Mixon after he underwent his physicals, so Mixon ends up not getting a deal here with the Seahawks.
91:39Raiders. I mean, if the Raiders could have contained Kenneth Walker in this game, they probably would have beat the Chiefs and moved to 4-0.
91:47But they could not stop Kenneth Walker. They lose 30-27.
91:51Evan, what do you think of Raiders' game here in Vegas against the Chiefs?
91:55Well, I think that this kind of gave us confirmation.
91:59We've been talking about how there was a rumor, at least, that Ashton Gentey had aggravated the ankle injury that he suffered that led to the prayer circle.
92:08Well, I think he aggravated again in this game.
92:11So that sort of explains, you know, I think it explains at least partially why he's been so inefficient as a runner.
92:19That, to me, is the big story here. I mean, again, Brock Bowers is a freaking baller.
92:24I think it actually helps Michael Mayer that Brock Bowers is back.
92:28Michael Mayer is now the Raiders' number one tight end.
92:32If we think about it like that and then we think of Brock Bowers as JSN in the Clint Kubiak offense, then
92:39we can have some confidence that Michael Mayer is like a start caliber tight end in fantasy.
92:45I think that that's the way that we need to think of it.
92:49Absolutely. I mean, Brock Bowers has lined up wide 61 times this season, slot 45 times, inline tight end, just 16 snaps
92:57since he's been back for Brock Bowers. Bowers has run 83 routes on 90 Cousins dropbacks since returning.
93:03So yeah, I mean, this is like the alpha wide receiver role for Brock Bowers.
93:08And yeah, Michael Mayer, I mean, one of the best round 20 picks that you could have made.
93:14And if you're desperate, a tight end, certainly in play.
93:17One of the reasons these guys are in play, I didn't think her Cousins could do this anymore.
93:2331 of 52 for 365 and two touchdowns against the Chiefs.
93:27That's pretty impressive. And I was so sure that Fernando Mendoza would be in relatively soon.
93:33If Cousins keeps playing like this, I'm going to be wrong there.
93:37Like Mendoza is not coming anytime soon. No, the Raiders are three and one and their only loss is by three points to the Chiefs.
93:45So yeah, I mean, we are weeks and weeks away from Mendoza even being a conversation.
93:51I think right now we'll see on the ankle thing that Evan mentioned with Ashton Gentty didn't strike me as anything serious,
93:58but regardless, Gentty's role is so good. 31 routes in this game for Ashton Gentty, five routes for Mike Washington.
94:05Chargers. Well, the latest Chargers loss comes at Seattle.
94:08They actually scored 23 points here. I mean, they didn't roll over after getting down 26 at half, but Chargers are 0-4.
94:15McConkie aggravated his foot injury. Joe Ault left early.
94:18Derwin James didn't play. I mean, it's hard to even find the light at the end of the tunnel here for the Chargers.
94:26Evan, any thoughts on their latest loss, this one in Seattle?
94:30Yeah, I mean, I guess they showed some heart this past week by rallying back a little bit.
94:36I think they wound up pushing on the spread.
94:39I think the spread was 7 and they pushed.
94:42Yeah, sounds right. I got a text from somebody during the game like, oh man, you nailed it on the Seahawks cover.
94:49This was such an easy win. And then they came back and pushed.
94:54So the guy didn't win any money. I don't even know that I was on that bet.
94:59But yeah, I mean, it's just disaster area. Even despite the fact that they showed heart or whatever, like Joe Ault got hurt.
95:07Rayshon Slater has a high ankle sprain. It's an absolute disaster.
95:11And they have Denver coming up, again, without the starting two cornerbacks.
95:15But I don't know how you could feel comfortable about anyone.
95:19Even like, and I know that Quentin Johnson sucks, all right?
95:22I get it. But he has like the highest ADOT that he's had since his rookie year this year.
95:29They're just heaving him the ball downfield. And we know that that's not how Quentin Johnson wins.
95:35I thought that there was maybe a chance that if they got him the ball on the move, instead of having, you
95:42know, making him win 50-50, it's just everything is going wrong.
95:46Everything is going wrong for the Chargers from the coaching.
95:49I don't think Mike McDaniel is going to last the season.
95:53Did you see after this, yes, the press conference with Jim Harbaugh?
95:57I mean, that was not a vote of confidence in Mike McDaniel whatsoever.
96:01I think they might all get fired. I mean, people want my comment because Mike McDaniel is my brother.
96:08And I am going to say he has done a bad job, even though he's my brother.
96:13And I still think he will be a good schemer coach in the NFL.
96:18He has done a bad job. As Evan mentioned, Quentin Johnson's best skill to me, or only skill really, is yards after catch.
96:26He has not put Quentin Johnson in the position to get yards after catch at all.
96:31Kurt Warner, who I think is like awesome at breaking down quarterback stuff.
96:36I know Evan agrees also. Kurt Warner had this quote that stuck with me.
96:41He said, this was on Twitter. He said, the tape is leaving me befuddled conceptually.
96:46It almost feels like the Chargers are trying things because Justin Herbert is such a freak and they think he can do things others can't.
96:54But it makes little sense. So many concepts left me uncomfortable for Herbert while watching the tape.
97:00I mean, I'm no tape bro, but it's hard for me to disagree.
97:04It has been so, so, so bad. Now, with Ladd McConkie out, Trey Harris and QJ are going to have decent projections.
97:12We're going to have to talk about these guys because they're going to be cheap and there's probably going to be no
97:19Ladd McConkie after he aggravated his foot injury. We'll talk more about that on Friday.
97:24Last note for me, they have gone to full three-man committee at the running back position.
97:30Keaton Mitchell played a ton here. Keaton Mitchell out-carried Amar and Hampton 10-9.
97:34Khamenei Vidal got five carries and three targets. I mean, Vidal played 25 snaps, basically the same as Mitchell and Hampton.
97:41So, three-man committee on a bad team here. It's tough.
97:44Tough clicks. Let's go to the Dolphins. This was the first game without Devon Achan and it was a difficult spot.
97:52You know, they were playing at Minnesota. Dolphins stay competitive, lose 15-10, fall to 0-4.
97:57Malik Willis just 85 passing yards in this game.
98:00I mean, he only got 17 pass attempts off.
98:03It only ran the ball two times. Dolphins, we talked about the Jets only running 32 plays.
98:08The Dolphins play so slow. They only ran 37 plays in this game.
98:13Evan, what do you think of Dolphins' performance without Achan on Sunday?
98:17I think that the only thing worth discussing is that Ollie Gordon had nine carries for 100 yards and a touchdown.
98:24And, you know, over half of that came on one run where I thought he looked slow, by the way.
98:31I mean, he got caught from behind by, like, multiple Vikings defenders.
98:35And, again, they only ran 37 plays and they play slow and they're not going to be able to maintain drives.
98:42Like, people were taking big-time victory laps on Ollie Gordon.
98:45I guess there was some sort of a waiver-wire debate.
98:49Oh, it could be Jalen Wright, too. You know, I don't know that this is going to be sustainable.
98:55I would bet heavily against this being sustainable for Ollie Gordon based on the way the Dolphins play and based on the talent level of Ollie Gordon.
99:04He did win the Doak Walker Award. And this was a really nice performance.
99:09But I wouldn't be going into any weeks, except for the weeks where there's six teams on by.
99:15You don't know what to do. Hoping that Ollie Gordon falls into the end zone is going to be your best bet with him.
99:23He wasn't even that wide from Jalen Wright in terms of usage.
99:27Snaps were Gordon 22, Wright 12. Opportunities were Gordon 11, Wright 5.
99:31So, yeah, totally agree on Ollie Gordon. Patriots. Oh, by the way, just last thing on Dolphins.
99:37Chris Bell had like a weird play where he stepped out of bounds.
99:41That would have changed the game. They might have won that game if Chris Bell didn't step out of bounds on that play.
99:49So, still, like when the Dolphins get this ship righted, I want to be there for Chris Bell.
99:55Like he looks like a player, especially considering he's so soon off of his ACL tear.
100:01Patriots. Much needed win for the Patriots. They go to Buffalo, get pull off the upset 29-26.
100:06Did it without A.J. Brown. They did it on one of the most insane late touchdown catches you will ever see from Efton Chisholm.
100:15Absolutely. Especially considering like the context of the game, when it was, what the score was.
100:20One of the wildest catches I've ever seen. Evan, what do you think of?
100:25Patriots win over the Bills. It was just a game that Drake May really, really needed.
100:30I think, you know, we'd been talking about it had been like six, seven, eight games where Drake May just, we hadn't
100:37seen him play well in a really long time.
100:41I'm not even sure that he played that well.
100:44I mean, he still made a bunch of mistakes.
100:47And he got the Efton Chisholm crazy catch. And the Romeo, Romeo Dobbs had a one-handed catch as well.
100:53So, I mean, he got some good fortune from his past catchers.
100:57I don't know if any of that is sustainable.
101:00Chisholm's like a practice squad guy. And Romeo Dobbs is like, I don't even know.
101:05Is Romeo Dobbs good? I mean, we've been trying to figure this out for years.
101:10You know, I kind of think he's not. But, I mean, look, the reports have been fairly positive, I think, recently on A.J.
101:18Brown that he might be ready to go at least one or two weeks after he is eligible to return from IR.
101:25He went on in week one. That's good news.
101:29I do think it's really nice that Drake May got back to running in this game.
101:34Eight runs for 54 yards. You know, some of these dual-threat quarterbacks, I remember Andrew Luck used to talk about this.
101:41Cam Newton would talk about this. Get me running in the game.
101:45It gets me more in tune to the game.
101:48You know, it will keep the defense on their heels a little bit because they got to worry about me running.
101:55Like, I think that that's a good thing. You want to run Drake May at least a little bit every single game
102:03to make sure the defense is aware of that threat.
102:06Agreed. Only on a note for me on Patriots was the running back situation.
102:11So, you know, pretty even split technically. However, if you dig into the split, Ramondre is getting so much more of the high-value stuff.
102:19Just like Kyron versus Corum type stuff. Ramondre 24 routes.
102:22Trevion Henderson 12. Ramondre also got a goal line carry here.
102:26And they do not use Trevion Henderson down there much at all.
102:30So even though we had the fumble issues for Ramondre, it's an even split.
102:35Ramondre is still clearly ahead from a fantasy perspective.
102:38Jets. I mean, Jets went to Chicago. They lost 23-12.
102:41It wasn't that close. I mean, they just didn't have the ball.
102:45At halftime, Bears ran 49 plays. Jets ran 16.
102:48Jets, 32 plays. One of the fewest ever. They had seven first downs all day.
102:53So, terrible day all around for the Jets. Evan, what do you think of their performance in Chicago?
102:59Yeah, it was a huge step back for the Jets.
103:03But it was mostly because the Jets just could not stop the Bears running game.
103:08So there are a bunch of stats that are coming out of this game because it was such an historically lopsided.
103:15You know, everybody's like, oh, the Bears had more first downs than the Jets had offensive plays in this game.
103:22To me, the craziest stat that came out of this game was that the Jets possessed the ball for 45 seconds in the fourth quarter.
103:30That means that the Bears had the ball for 14 minutes and 15 seconds in the fourth quarter alone.
103:37But yeah, I mean, that's the tale of the tape right there is that the Jets just did not have the ball, period.
103:44I know people are frustrated with the Kenyan Sadiq airball.
103:48He only ran 12 routes. Gino only dropped back 18 times.
103:52I thought it was encouraging that on 18 dropbacks, Sadiq got targeted four times.
103:56I know he airballed, but still, I still think Sadiq is a good asset.
104:01The other thing for me on Jets was Braylon Allen.
104:04I mean, I thought for sure they would mix in Isaiah Davis with Brees Hall out.
104:10They gave Braylon Allen 32 snaps. Isaiah Davis, two.
104:13Through four games this season, Braylon has now played 114 snaps.
104:17Isaiah Davis has played a grand total of two.
104:20So, I mean, elite, like best you can find usage for Braylon Allen here while Brees Hall is out.
104:26Brees Hall is still considered week to week as far as I know with his quad injury.
104:32Yeah, we're playing fantasy football. We always have to consider context.
104:35You have to just wipe this game from your mind when you are considering starting Garrett Wilson or Braylon Allen.
104:42Braylon Allen actually had a nice game. Or Kenyan Sadiq going forward because this is a game that you just wipe from your mind.
104:50Steelers. It was a frustrating Thursday night for the Steelers in Cleveland.
104:54Aaron Rodgers seemed like he was on extra tilt all night.
104:58He was like barking at Mike McCarthy. I thought Rodgers, uncharacteristic for him, was holding the ball way too long.
105:05Took a ton of hits and sacks. They did get hot late with some nice plays to DK Metcalf.
105:11But not enough as they lose to the Browns.
105:14Evan, what do you think of? Steelers being last Thursday.
105:18I mean, the big stories were, yeah, DK Metcalf finally having a good game and capitalizing on that, you know, mean regression
105:25that you were betting on, you know, from like the by Leone model.
105:30And it wasn't a good matchup either. I mean, Denzel Ward, you know, it wasn't a great matchup on paper, but DK
105:37Metcalf still got there and had his first big game of the season.
105:41And we saw that he actually can catch the football because that was not evident in the first three games.
105:48And then Jalen Warren getting another full workload, 20 touches.
105:52And then, you know, we got to talk about is Rico Dowdle coming back.
105:56I think that he probably will be back in week six.
106:00I'm sorry, in week five against the Jets. But I also think that Jalen Warren is like way better than Rico Dowdle.
106:07So I don't know. We'll see how that works out.
106:11But I know they're calling it a one-two punch right now.
106:15Mike McCarthy called it a one-two punch. To me, Jalen Warren should just be the main guy.
106:20Yeah, a couple good matchups coming up for the Steelers.
106:24They're home versus the Colts next and then at the Bucs and then home against the Saints.
106:29Jalen Warren consistently gets more than what's blocked. And he has carried a huge role with Rico Dowdle out.
106:3694% of the snaps with Rico Dowdle out for Jalen Warren.
106:40I hope, like Silva said, like I hope this shows the Steelers and anyone else that Jalen Warren could be an awesome workhorse.
106:47But as Silva said, I don't think they're going to do it.
106:51I think once Rico Dowdle is cleared, they're going to reduce Jalen Warren's role, which sucks because he is, I mean, I
106:59think he can be an awesome feature back in the NFL.
107:03And he's shown that the last two weeks. Last note for me on the Steelers.
107:08This Darnell Washington stuff in the red zone, I mean, biggest plays of the game.
107:13And it's Darnell Washington in the game over Friermuth.
107:16It's Darnell Washington as the first read, as like the only read, three straight targets in the end zone.
107:22Then Friermuth comes in on fourth down and gets the touchdown.
107:26Routes ended up Friermuth 35, D-Wash 24 on 45 Rodgers dropbacks.
107:30But yeah, I mean, they clearly have a plan for Darnell Washington around the goal line.
107:35Last one we're going to do here today is the Tennessee Titans.
107:39Titans lose in Baltimore. Oh, they're now 0-4. But for the first time I can remember in a long time, Evan, an
107:46actual bright spot to talk about on the Titans.
107:49And Carnell Tate, with the breakout game of his NFL career, nine catches, 145 yards while dominating targets.
107:56He saw 12 targets for a 39% share from Cam Ward.
107:59Exciting, I think, if you're a Titans fan or a Carnell Tate backer.
108:04Evan, what do you think of that and the Titans game?
108:07Yeah, and I think that Cam Ward actually played decent in this game.
108:12We're looking for any signs of positivity. You know, the past couple shows, when we got to Tennessee, I was like, yep, I'm done.
108:20You know, I wasn't like packing it in because I was, you know, tired of talking.
108:25I just didn't want to talk about the Titans because there was really nothing to talk about.
108:31But yeah, Carnell Tate, he looked like the number four pick in the draft.
108:36Cam Ward didn't quite look like the number one pick in the draft.
108:40But, you know, some signs of positivity here that he can get the ball to Carnell Tate.
108:46Carnell Tate had a good game the previous game, actually, too.
108:50He just didn't put up huge numbers. I think he was five for 63.
108:54But yeah, we're seeing it that Carnell Tate was potentially worth that number four overall pick and that Cam Ward is at
109:02least capable of getting the ball to him. This is the second straight game.
109:07I mean, against the Giants, I thought Carnell Tate played decently also.
109:11Six catches, 58 yards on a 25% target share there.
109:14So yeah, exciting for Carnell Tate to even keep this going.
109:18Two other small notes for me on Titans. Calvin Ridley ran 17 routes.
109:22Elik Iominoor ran 22 routes. I love that, man.
109:25Like, let the kid play. I think Iominoor is a player.
109:29We know we have in Cal Ridley. It's not very much.
109:33So I like that for the Titans. Last note, Tony Pollard's name was in that Schefter report for trade deadline.
109:39If that happens, they will go with Spears and probably some Nick Singleton also as their running backs if they end up moving Tony Pollard at the deadline.
109:49Calvin Ridley should also be in that trade group.
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