0:00Hello and welcome to Episode 1031 of the official EstablishTheRun.com podcast.
0:04My name is Adam Levitan. I'm one of the co-founders here at ETR as always joined by fellow co-founder Evan Silva.
0:11And week four is in the books. It was the wide receiver strike back a bit, Evan.
0:17Massive week for Ted McMillan, CeeDee Lamb, Nico Collins.
0:20Evan, how was your week four? Yeah, it was a super exciting week.
0:24There were a ton of injuries again. That will be a big theme in the upcoming matchups column.
0:30I mean, just keeping track of all of them is a job in and of itself.
0:35But yeah, it was a high scoring week. Also the last week where we had all 32 teams playing because now we got some buys coming up.
0:45Yeah, I meant to look into this. I didn't have a chance to before the show, but it certainly feels like injuries have been worse this year.
0:54And even if the quantity of injuries isn't worse, I think the fantasy impactful injuries have been worse.
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1:03But yeah, I mean, I'm going to try to look at it and see if that's the case.
1:09But it feels really, really, really bad on the injury front here through the first four weeks.
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2:09All right, going to start with the five biggest stories of the week, and then we will go team by team in alphabetical order after that.
2:18Story one, Evan. Let's go back to Philly. Eagles were already playing without Devonta Smith, Dallas Goddard, Zach Vaughn, Lane Johnson, Fred Johnson.
2:25Then they lose Saquon Barkley to a hamstring injury in-game.
2:29Then they lose Tank Bigsby to a hamstring injury in-game.
2:32Through all that, they still had a great chance to win this game, to beat the Rams at home, but they give it away late and lose 24-20.
2:42It is full-blown panic right now in Philadelphia, Evan, especially around the offense.
2:46Thoughts on that, and then thoughts on the upcoming backfield situation without both Barkley and Tank Bigsby.
2:52Yeah, so for a long time, the Eagles have relied on, year in and year out, Howie Roseman's roster building, having built
2:59one of the most talented rosters in the NFL.
3:02Even years when they're not going to the Super Bowl or winning the Super Bowl, they've had one of the best rosters
3:10from a pure roster talent standpoint every single year.
3:13And now they are so depleted that you can't say that about the Eagles anymore, and now you're seeing the limitations of Nick Sirianni as a coach.
3:22And so I think that that is being exposed.
3:25Also, the loss of Jeff Stoutland, I think, has been felt through four games on the offensive line.
3:31But of course, Lane Johnson dropping out in this past game.
3:35Cam Juergens playing a position where he's not supposed to play.
3:38And then coming up with, you know, now he's battling a concussion.
3:42They were already without Landon Dickerson. Yeah, the Eagles are in trouble.
3:46Right now, it doesn't look like Devontae Smith is going to be back in Jacksonville.
3:52Saquon Barkley's probably going to be out. The Eagles are in big-time trouble.
3:56And the Jaguars have played really good defense so far this season, too.
4:00Okay, so having said all that, and I agree with you, this offense looks broken.
4:05You know, Jalen Hurts was 12 of 27 in this game for 93 yards.
4:1093 passing yards for Jalen Hurts. Also only carried it five times for 18 yards.
4:15You know, our old friend Shio Kapadia, he said he had a tweet based on success rate.
4:21This is the worst an Eagles offense has performed through the first four weeks of a season.
4:27This century, they've gone three and out on over 45% of their offensive possessions.
4:31I mean, that is absolutely insane. So having said all that, Evan, how excited are you for this opportunity for Will Shipley?
4:39Will Shipley, 2024 fourth-round pick of the Eagles, has not played very much since they made that selection.
4:45Yeah, also from Shio Kapadia, the Eagles this past week had 172 yards from scrimmage against the Rams.
4:51They're lowest in a game in 12 years. So, I mean, this offense, to me, it seems broken.
4:57I don't know if they're going to be able to fix it anytime soon.
5:02Will Shipley is interesting. Played at Clemson. He has been sort of stereotyped as a passing down back, niche back, although at Clemson he was not.
5:11He had a season of over 210 carries in 14 games.
5:14He's 5'11", 206, so he's certainly not a tiny back.
5:18He ran 4'39 at the combine coming out with a 6'8", 3-cone.
5:22I mean, he's a big-time athlete who can play in the passing game.
5:26He was sharing time with Tank Bigsby almost right down the middle before Tank Bigsby got hurt.
5:32And now they've got a bunch of practice squad guys, Damian Pierce, Carson Steele, Jaden Blue that they're talking about bringing up.
5:39I think it's going to be the Will Shipley show against Jacksonville, and he will be probably like an FFPC main event.
5:47Will Shipley will be the highest or the most pursued running back off the waiver wire this week.
5:53Yeah, to be clear, Saquon Barkley, they're calling week-to-week with his hamstring injury.
5:57That was one where it didn't look like it was one of those minor tweaks.
6:02Like, he immediately pulled up lame and started limping.
6:05So week-to-week on Saquon Barkley, Tank Bigsby needs surgery on his sports hernia.
6:10He's going to be out six weeks here. Now, not the only concern, but one of the concerns for me on Will
6:17Shipley is that they went and traded for Tank Bigsby.
6:21Like, they weren't like, oh man, we got Saquon's backup right here.
6:25Will Shipley's great. No, they went out and gave up an actual pick to get Tank Bigsby last year.
6:31So maybe not the greatest vote of confidence there.
6:34However, Damian Pierce, Jaden Blue, Carson Steele, not exactly an imposing group for Will Shipley to run ahead of.
6:41So I need to think about this more, but I agree with Evan.
6:45It's going to be Will Shipley in a lead role.
6:48I just, I'm not sure it's actually going to be a workhorse role for Will Shipley.
6:54I mean, they've only given him 59 carries in 35 games as an Eagle.
6:58They have hesitated in a big way to give Will Shipley work.
7:03I do like that he plays well in the passing game.
7:06Jalen Hurts has not thrown to the running back in his career.
7:10Oh, also, with Devonta Smith out, and by the way, Devonta Smith could miss this game also.
7:16It was a very tough matchup, but Dontavian Wicks, Makai Lemon, they just were not good.
7:21And yeah, some was on the scheme. Some was on Jalen Hurts.
7:26Yes, it was a brutal matchup, but Darius Cooper was actually the one out making the plays.
7:31And by the way, Darius Cooper ran two more routes than Makai Lemon.
7:36They both ran a ton of routes, but Darius Cooper 29, Makai Lemon 27 on 32 Hertz dropbacks.
7:42So even with Devonta Smith out, Evan, I feel like it's a tough click on Wicks, Lemon, or any of these guys still.
7:50Yeah, you brought that up as a possibility on Sunday morning that Makai Lemon wouldn't necessarily jump into two receiver sets.
7:57And if that's opposite Dontavian Wicks would stay in that slot-only role, that's exactly what happened.
8:02Darius Cooper was the two-receiver guy and made a couple of plays.
8:06So I would expect that to remain the same, the status quo, entering week five against the Jaguars.
8:12Yeah, tough matchup against the Jaguars for sure. All right.
8:16Story two, let's go to Kansas City. Chiefs went to Vegas for a matchup of 3-0 teams.
8:21Chiefs survived 30-27 on the back of my personal hero, Kenneth Walker.
8:2522 carries, 177 yards, two touchdowns here for Walker.
8:28He continues to have this really outsized impact on the Chiefs.
8:32But it is not all roses here, Evan. Rasheed Rice left this game with a hamstring tweak.
8:38And then Tyquan Thornton, in the midst of the game of his life, Tyquan Thornton dislocates his ankle in a gruesome play.
8:45He is likely done for this season. So, Evan, what do you think of the Chiefs game and what do they do
8:53now with Thornton and Rasheed Rice banged up? Well, I love the Chiefs game because Sundays are for the polybros.
8:59And if you had the over in this game as we did, you were cooking on Sunday.
9:05And it wasn't looking very good entering the fourth quarter.
9:09But there was a scoring bonanza in the fourth quarter.
9:12And we got that over by quite a bit.
9:15Actually wound up with 57. I think the over-under was 47.5.
9:19So, an easy win in that fourth quarter. Or, yeah, I mean, the Chiefs, you know, we're talking about maybe potentially signing
9:26Tyreek Hill, which I feel like is going to happen during the Chiefs bye.
9:31I don't know that. We have no idea what his health is like.
9:35Also, is he going to be on the hook for any kind of a suspension at any point?
9:41I don't know. But it seems like Tyreek Hill is just a matter of time before he joins Kansas City.
9:48Yeah. So, on Tyreek Hill, I'm pretty skeptical here.
9:51He is 32 years old. He did not have, like, a clean ACL tear.
9:56This was one year ago. One of the worst knee injuries you can have.
10:01Tyreek Hill dislocated his left knee and tore multiple ligaments in his left knee, including his ACL.
10:06As of a month ago, he was still saying he was having trouble pushing off his left leg.
10:13So, I get they're probably going to sign him.
10:16I don't think I'm that excited about it. It's unfortunate on Taequann Thornton because I was excited about him.
10:22I mean, Taequann Thornton was outplaying Xavier Worthy. And, by the way, Taequann Thornton was somewhat of a prospect coming out of college.
10:30I do not think it's... Second round pick, wasn't he?
10:33Yeah, second round pick, I believe, by the Patriots.
10:36Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's crazy to say Taequann Thornton was going to outproduce Xavier Worthy rest of season.
10:43Like, I was ready to come on here and be like, we should be aggressive on Taequann Thornton on the waiver wire.
10:51Then he dislocates his ankle. So, they need Xavier Worthy.
10:54Again, I'm just not sure he can do it.
10:57Yeah. Go ahead. And looking down the depth chart, you know, Cyrus Allen hasn't really played a whole lot, but is a
11:05player that made a lot of noise during training camp.
11:08And I wonder if he could be the guy to step up, you know, assuming that Tyreek Hill isn't ready to go.
11:15And obviously, Taequann Thornton's going to be out. The reports on Rasheed Rice do seem positive that they got the bye in week five.
11:23And it sounds like Rasheed Rice has a chance to play in week six.
11:28Yes, this was not like Saquon's. They're calling it a tweak, not even a pull on Rasheed Rice.
11:34He did not get back into the game. It's just always something with Rasheed Rice.
11:39You know, I wasn't sure that his knee was right.
11:43Now the hamstring, the off-field stuff, it's not ideal.
11:46But yeah, on Cyrus Allen, I do think he fits more as Rasheed Rice's direct backup than Taequann Thornton's direct backup.
11:53But yes, I'd love to see Cyrus Allen play more.
11:56There's absolutely no doubt. Do you need to take any more victory laps on Kenneth Walker?
12:02The people know. The people know. The laps are quiet laps on Kenneth Walker.
12:06I just, I need him to keep smashing for my health.
12:10I need him to stay healthy. Yes. If he stays healthy, he'll keep smashing, obviously.
12:15Okay. No more talk about Kenneth Walker's health. It's too scary to me.
12:20Story three. Let's go to Arizona. Cardinals lose to the Giants 36-24 on the road.
12:25Cardinals are now 1-3. The story of the game, though, Evan, was this odd Jeremiah Love usage.
12:30Remember, this was the number three overall pick in the draft.
12:34He barely played in the second half of a very close game.
12:38They fail at the goal line. Jeremiah Love wasn't in.
12:42The biggest plays of their game slash season, two-minute drill, trying to make a comeback.
12:47Jeremiah Love is not in. He played 11 snaps in the entire second half.
12:51He must have been hurt, right? He must have been.
12:55They ask him about it after the game. Jeremiah Love says, no, I wasn't hurt.
13:00Coaches say, no, he wasn't hurt. I mean, I can read all the quotes for you guys if you want.
13:07But basically, Jeremiah Love said, it's been a long year for him.
13:11Sometimes his body is tired. This is the, quote, longest year of his life.
13:15He said, I think Tyler, Algier, or Bam Knight can exert themselves a little more.
13:20I couldn't believe I was hearing this, Evan. A Notre Dame guy?
13:25I would not let a kid on my sixth grade basketball team say stuff like this.
13:30Like, well, I'm tired. It's been a long year.
13:33I'm going to let the other guys go in.
13:36I wouldn't let a sixth grader say that. Jeremiah Love, the number three overall pick in the draft, is saying that.
13:43So yes, I was tilted. Cost me plenty of money.
13:46But I'm still, like, confused at what he said here.
13:50So Evan, any thoughts on this Jeremiah Love situation?
13:53Well, it could have been a lot longer year if Notre Dame had made the college football playoff and had to play
14:00three extra games or played in the bowl game that they were assigned.
14:05So it wasn't that long of a year, Jeremiah.
14:08But no, the stuff that came out this morning was that Mike LaFleur was talking about that there was an injury to
14:15Jeremiah Love's other ankle, which I would assume is like a compensation injury coming from the original high ankle sprain.
14:22And I mean, I do understand, like, the Cardinals have probably talked with Jeremiah Love and been like, hey, you know, we gave Tyler Algier this money.
14:31We want to keep you healthy throughout the course of the season.
14:35And so, you know, they're not overloading him with work after he had the high ankle sprain at the end of the preseason.
14:43So I don't know. I mean, I kind of am buying the lines, the company lines here from the Cardinals on Jeremiah Love.
14:51OK. And look, I was really excited about him entering week four just like you were.
14:56Yeah. And like my point is just this needs to be baked into projections.
15:01Like there could be games where Jeremiah Love plays a ton like he did in week three.
15:07And there could be games where he's like, I don't really want to go in.
15:12My body's tired. That has to be part of the projection now.
15:16I can never look at this the same and trust him to be out there for every snap.
15:22Now, maybe that'll change. Maybe he'll get healthier or whatever.
15:25But yeah, it just is what it is. It's also the fact that when you were a bad team, like Kenneth Walker
15:33made such a difference for a good team. The Chiefs Saquon Barkley in 2024 made a big difference for a good team.
15:40The Eagles taking a running back when you are horrific at three overall.
15:44This is it. This is why, man. This is just a debacle.
15:49I mean, just just a debacle so far. And I get it really early.
15:53Anyway, I'm done. And there are some other big concerns here, too, because the Cardinals lost their best offensive lineman, Paris Johnson,
16:01to a torn biceps during the game. He's done for the season.
16:05Yeah. And also their starting right guard, Isaiah Adams, went out during the game.
16:09And their backup or, you know, their next best option at right guard would be Chase Besantis.
16:15They lost him to a torn ACL at the end of the preseason.
16:20So all of a sudden, the Cardinals offensive line is in severe deterioration mode.
16:24And I just wonder if we've seen the best of the Cardinals offense.
16:29We saw them perform really well in week one against the Chargers.
16:33They played Seattle and didn't perform at all, not surprisingly.
16:36And then in week three against the 49ers, they kind of cooked offensively.
16:41And then Jacoby Brissett, I mean, this was his worst game of the season.
16:45And now Mike LaFleur is being asked in press conferences, hey, when are we going to move on to the next quarterback?
16:53And that's not going to happen yet. And Jacoby Brissett has a great opportunity coming up against Detroit.
16:59He could absolutely play well. But it is only a matter of time before Carson.
17:04I mean, the Cardinals need to get like 10 starts at a Carson Beck this season because they're going to have a high pick in next year's draft.
17:13And they got to make sure that Carson Beck, who performed well during the preseason, you know, that he's not the guy
17:21that they want to go with instead. Yeah. I mean, I think Joey Brissett will play very well despite the offensive line
17:28issues, which are a real concern against the Lions, which is just a joke of a defense right now.
17:35Two more notes for me on the Cardinals. First, Michael Wilson, man.
17:39Another 13 targets here for Michael Wilson. In the last three weeks, Michael Wilson's target shares are 27%, 34%, and 37%.
17:46Trey McBride has benefited massively from Brissett. Michael Wilson has had like his career turned around by Joey Brissett.
17:52And that would be a big concern for me.
17:55But right now, anytime Brissett starts, Michael Wilson and Trey McBride are going to be awesome plays.
18:01Last note from you on the Cardinals. Schefter had a report about the upcoming trade deadline and players that he thinks could be on the block.
18:10He mentioned Marvin Harrison. I don't know if you have any ideas for teams, Evan.
18:15Two that came to mind that could pursue Marvin Harrison for me were Colts, obviously where his dad played.
18:21They need wide receiver help. And Bills, who we'll get to in a minute, seemingly always need wide receiver help.
18:28So those were two that came to mind that could maybe poke around on Marvin Harrison.
18:33But yeah, it's an interesting, like, would you want to trade for Marvin Harrison if you were Colts or Bills or anyone else?
18:41The Colts make all the sense in the world because, I mean, Chris Ballard, everybody there is on the hot seat.
18:48And Chris Ballard has a long history of making trades at the, I mean, he traded for Sauce Gardner this past deadline.
18:56And it looks like Alec Pierce might be out for the year.
19:00And the Colts wide receivers coach is Reggie Wayne.
19:03Marvin Harrison's father's old boy, you know, from Indy.
19:06So that makes all the sense in the world, I think, for Marvin Harrison Jr.
19:11to end up in Indianapolis. Yeah. And it makes sense for the Cardinals to, like, give him a fresh start, you know?
19:18I mean, as much as I've, you know, been hard on him, like...
19:23And that would be a nice situation for Kendrick Bourne, who is Mike LaFleur's boy from San Francisco.
19:29And also, you know, he would be the number two receiver opposite Michael Wilson going forward.
19:34Kendrick Bourne could be useful on a team that, you know, is going to be playing from behind and throwing the ball a lot.
19:42So, story four, let's go to Seattle. Seahawks did let the Chargers hang around in this game.
19:48But they held on for a 30-23 win. This was the first game since Jadarian Price went on IR return with his chest injury.
19:56And Silva was on it. You know, I mentioned this on the solo pod.
20:01But we just, in projection, we just did not have enough work for Emmanuel Wilson versus George Helani.
20:07Emmanuel Wilson, 21 carries, 81 yards and a touchdown rushing.
20:10Also, three catches for 39 yards and a touchdown receiving.
20:14Meanwhile, Helani got just eight opportunities. So, we have Zach Charbetti coming back.
20:18We're going to talk about the mixing thing. But it was certainly a really good day for Emmanuel Wilson.
20:25Evan, thoughts on Seahawks' backfield or anything else from the Seahawks game?
20:29Yeah, and I got to, I mean, Emmanuel Wilson, I watched like every touch of his in this game.
20:35And we really felt fortunate for that screen pass receiving score.
20:39But, you know, Emmanuel Wilson wasn't adding anything to his runs.
20:43I mean, he was just getting what's blocked, running straight ahead and getting as much as he could.
20:49And very fortunate to come out with a big-time outcome because he was not adding anything to what the blocking was giving him.
20:56But, yeah, you know, Zach Charbonnet is coming back.
20:59And one of their coaches was talking today, like, they're really excited to get Zach Charbonnet back.
21:05I think it was Mike McDonald. They're really excited to get him back.
21:10I mean, there's a chance that he could become Seattle's starter if he's good enough to go from a health standpoint.
21:17Yeah. So, Charbonnet is already back in practice. So, they activated his window.
21:21In other words, Seahawks are certain that he will be back in a game sometime the next three weeks.
21:28I do not expect him to play here in week five, but week six or seven for sure.
21:34And once he comes back, like, these guys are coming back so strong from injury.
21:39Chris Bell was on a similar timeline as Zach Charbonnet.
21:42He's already back and playing well in a full-time role.
21:45So, I think Charbonnet is going to have effectively the role that ran Kenneth Walker out of town, which is a lot of high-value situations.
21:54Charbonnet catching the football. Charbonnet playing on passing downs.
21:57Charbonnet playing at the goal line. The other headline here in this backfield was that they added Joe Mixon to their practice squad.
22:05I honestly thought Joe Mixon was done. You know, just like done for his career due to this foot thing.
22:11He's 30 years old. I would not be adding Joe Mixon, I guess is my point.
22:17It's going to be Charbonnet and Helani and Price when he gets back is, I think, what they're going.
22:23I think that's something to go with not Mixon.
22:26Yeah, I'm not expecting anything out of Joe Mixon based on the stuff that we heard that we, you know, passed along to the readers last year.
22:35I'm not expecting anything there. You know who did look really good as a running back in this game was Rashid Shahid.
22:43When they gave him a pitch on the perimeter, they should give him more carries.
22:48I mean, if they're not going to find ways to throw targets to Rashid Shahid, pitch him the ball.
22:54Another awesome return man. Obviously great with the ball in his hands.
22:58Give him three carries a game. I mean, I think he could do some stuff with that.
23:04We saw that against the Chargers. For sure. Schemed touches to Shahid is something I would certainly be doing.
23:11Speaking of, obviously coordinator Brian Fleury, I just wanted to note there was an interesting video.
23:16This was last week before the game. Someone asked Brian Fleury about the A.J.
23:21Barner tush push stuff. And basically what he said was at the half yard line, they like going A.J.
23:27Barner tush push further out than a half yard line.
23:31Maybe not as much. And when we're thinking about goal line carry projections and touchdown projections, it matters if A.J.
23:37Barner is going to be in there at the half yard line for tush push stuff.
23:43So I just wanted to note that. Big game for the Seahawks coming up.
23:47San Francisco versus Seattle this week. Story five. Let's go to Baltimore.
23:52Ravens got out to a big lead over the Titans in the Derrick Henry Bowl.
23:57It looked like they were going to hang a huge number on the Titans.
24:01And then the iceberg hits. Lamar was kind of moving up in the pocket, getting ready to run.
24:07And he got tripped up from behind. Sprained his ankle.
24:11Rap sheet reported Tuesday that Lamar has only an outside chance to play in week five against the Falcons.
24:17Rap sheet said the injury could keep Lamar Jackson out multiple games.
24:21That is scary because a banged up Lamar is not a very good Lamar.
24:26Like when he can't move the way he needs to.
24:29We saw this last year is a problem. So Evan, thoughts on this Lamar situation and any other Ravens thoughts?
24:36Yeah, it hurts. And I think that it seems like it's still up in the air as to when the Ravens expect Lamar Jackson to return.
24:45Rap sheet's report was like, oh, I don't know.
24:48It was just like all over the place. Like week to week.
24:52Like multiple games. Maybe he could be back against Atlanta.
24:55I don't know. We'll see. But my God, on Lamar Jackson's 17-yard run, he was moving faster than any of the other players on the field.
25:04He kind of took a big hit at the end of that.
25:08That was a little bit scary. I wonder if that contributed to this injury.
25:13But, yeah, I mean, we're going to have to deal with Tyler Huntley for a little bit.
25:19And that's not going to be good. I know that Tyler Huntley like made the Pro Bowl back in 2018 or something like that.
25:27But Tyler Huntley is not good. I think he had how many passing yards?
25:32Yeah. 63 passing yards in this game. Tyler Huntley also started two games for the Ravens last year.
25:38He generated 186 pass yards in one, 107 pass yards in the other.
25:42He did run two times. In those two games, he did run 16 times for 113 yards.
25:48But, yeah, it's not good. It's not good. And it sucks for Zay Flowers, who was on his way to being one
25:55of the best wide receivers in the NFL this year.
25:59You know, I liked Zay Flowers. I did not like him as much as Evan because I didn't think that in a
26:06Lamar Jackson offense, Zay Flowers could actually finish as the wide receiver one or wide receiver three or wide receiver five or whatever.
26:14He was on his way, too. And now that is in jeopardy here also.
26:19Sucks. I mean, Zay had— Huge jeopardy. Yeah. I mean, Zay had 118-1.
26:23Most of that was before Lamar left, which was in the first half.
26:27I mean, absolutely. Zay Flowers has been the most productive wide receiver in the NFL on a per-play basis by, like, a large margin so far this season.
26:37Also, the Ravens' offensive line is beginning to crumble.
26:40You know, last week they placed their number one and their number two center, Jovan Gwynn and Ethan Posich on IR.
26:47They moved Vega Ione, their rookie right guard, to center this past week.
26:51And they inserted Andrew Voorhees at right guard. And then Andrew Voorhees got hurt.
26:56So, another team with major offensive line concerns and now having to deal with a backup quarterback.
27:02By the way, you know, I know people are going to ask, what do you think about Derrick Henry with Tyler Huntley?
27:09Only a two-game sample here, but in the games Tyler Huntley started last year, Derrick Henry, 21 carries, 71 yards, two touchdowns in one of them.
27:18In the other one, 36 carries, 216 yards, four rushing touchdowns with Tyler Huntley starting.
27:23Yeah. Let's not overthink it with Derrick Henry, for sure.
27:27All right. Let's go to the NFC now. We will go in alphabetical order, starting with the Atlanta Falcons.
27:33The Michael Penix savior movement continued Monday night. Penix and the Falcons go into the Superdome.
27:38And, I mean, they just destroyed the Saints. 45 to 24.
27:42It wasn't even that close. It has come against the Packers and the Saints.
27:47But in two games since Penix returned, Falcons have scored 80 points.
27:51And racked up 918 yards of offense. I mean, I thought Michael Penix would be a boost.
27:57I know these were two good matchups. I did not think that he would put up this kind of offensive performances.
28:04Evan, thoughts on how sticky this can be with Penix in the game last night?
28:09Well, we're going to be keeping an eye on the injury to Jake Matthews, who left the game with a groin injury.
28:16And Jake Matthews is like the NFL's Ironman. He had not missed a start since 2014, which is an absolutely insane streak of starts.
28:24But this offensive line in Atlanta and the running scheme are on fire right now.
28:29And this is a Bill Callahan run offensive line now.
28:33Kevin Stefanski has a nice history of running super productive running schemes.
28:37Sometimes it's to the point where, again, and we talked about this last week, like Brian Robinson is showing standalone value now.
28:44And the Falcons know where their bread is buttered.
28:47And that's with Bijan Robinson and Brian Robinson. Them being able to involve both of those guys is awesome.
28:54Awesome. And also, Michael Penix has given that. So this is what they want to do.
28:59They want to be extremely run heavy and then run a bunch of play action to get Michael Penix free and throw the ball downfield to Drake London.
29:09And, you know, Jahan Dotson went over. And Kyle Pitts even got a little bit involved in this game.
29:15But that's the formula that the Falcons are relying on right now.
29:19Be extremely run heavy, be very efficient, and then throw the ball off play action.
29:24And it's working the last two games. Yeah. And, I mean, throw it mostly to Drake London.
29:30I mean, the splits with Michael Penix on the field for Drake London are absolutely insane.
29:35Another 30% target share here. London would have gone completely berserk if they needed him to.
29:41They didn't. I mean, Brian and Bijan were unstoppable.
29:44Bijan's first touch of the game, third play of the game, 59-yard touchdown.
29:48It's crazy watching Bijan run. He just, like, never gets taken down by the first guy.
29:54It's so wild. So Michael Penix wasn't great last year.
29:57Before he got hurt. He's been really good through two games.
30:01Now, both in very favorable matchups against Green Bay and New Orleans.
30:05But I wanted to ask you this. Here's a trivia question.
30:08What do Jalen Polk, Roma Dunze, and Jalen McMillan all have in common?
30:13They all got elevated by Michael Penix at the University of Washington.
30:17There you go. I mean, Jalen Polk is already out of the NFL.
30:21Roma Dunze, now he's coming off a nice game, but he's definitely been a disappointment as the number nine pick in the draft.
30:29Jalen McMillan had a, you know, kind of a nice rookie season, but, you know, he hasn't been able to really show anything in the NFL.
30:38Now Michael Penix is showing something. Maybe he did elevate all three of those players' draft positions coming out.
30:44It's fair. Fair for sure. Let's go to Carolina.
30:47So Panthers had one of the best possible matchups in the NFL.
30:51They were home Sunday night football against this horrific Lions defense.
30:55And Bryce Young, again, shreds. This was without Jalen Coker.
30:58Bryce Young was unreal on Sunday night. 329 more passing yards.
31:02Two more passing touchdowns. No interceptions. They're chanting MVP at him.
31:06The fans are chanting MVP at him. He goes in the locker room.
31:10His teammates are chanting MVP at him. This has been an insane turnaround for Bryce Young.
31:16Evan, thoughts on the Panthers game Sunday night. And Bryce Young has faced the easiest pass defense schedule in the NFL through four games.
31:24But what do good passing games do? They absolutely shred, you know, when they're supposed to.
31:29And that's what the Panthers have done. I mean, this was a game where it reminded me of Drew Brees and Marcus Colston.
31:37Bryce Young, that was the comparison among people that really liked him coming out inside the NFL.
31:43Bryce Young was going to be the next Drew Brees.
31:46It's really hard to be Drew Brees because you have to be perfect.
31:51You have to be technically sound in every single way and super accurate.
31:55And you don't make mistakes. But Bryce Young has been that so far.
31:59And then Ted McMillan, they moved him. So last week, the...
32:03God. Brad Idzik. Idzik. Brad Idzik. Yes, I'm sorry.
32:06Brad Idzik was talking about how... Like Denzel Ward had taken Ted McMillan away in the previous game.
32:12He's like, we got to move him around more to get him away from like that tough coverage on the perimeter.
32:19That's exactly what Brad Idzik did in this game.
32:22Ted McMillan had five catches on five targets for 83 yards in the slot in this game.
32:28That's why it kind of reminded me of Marcus Colston because Marcus Colston played so much in the slot.
32:34But I love that Brad Idzik said that he said he was going to do that and he did do that.
32:42And then Ted McMillan goes out there and goes for 192 against the Lions.
32:46That was nine yards short of Steve Smith's all-time franchise record.
32:50But yeah, what an awesome, awesome performance. No Jalen Coker in the game.
32:54Offensive linemen are still dropping like flies. Damian Lewis was out for this game.
32:59Monroe Freeling. The Panthers right tackle. He left during the game.
33:03That's going to be all stuff that we can monitor.
33:06But the Panthers have a bye now. But yeah, I mean, this has been an awesome start for this passing game, no question.
33:14So it was an awesome performance, clearly. They're not going to get to face the Lions every week.
33:20And also Jalen Coker is going to be back.
33:23I'm not even sure Ted Rory McMillan has this game if Coker is active here.
33:28Coker is questionable for week five. So I certainly like these guys.
33:32Obviously, Coker, McMillan, Bryce are really strong fantasy assets.
33:35But clearly, when one of them is out, McMillan or Coker, the other one is going to get a big boost.
33:42It was Bryson Tremaine playing the Coker role here.
33:45But yeah, I mean, I have to issue an apology to Bryce Young.
33:50I mean, I'm sure people could go back and find some really bad things I said about Bryce Young over the previous couple of seasons.
33:58I thought it was over for Bryce Young. When he got benched for Andy Dalton, I was like, that's it, man.
34:05You can't get benched for Andy Dalton and come back and be an NFL MVP candidate or anything close to that.
34:12Shout out to him, man. I was wrong and he came back and he's been unreal.
34:18He's going to get a huge contract. Yeah. Very, very soon.
34:22Another note, Chuba Hubbard, who I was super, super wrong about before the season.
34:26I mean, one of the worst calls I've ever made to not want to draft him.
34:32He has been an electric pick so far. And I mean, he's had everything is gone in his favor.
34:38But, you know, sometimes it goes like that. And Chuba Hubbard has been outstanding so far.
34:44Also, one more note, it's a small note. But Trevor Etienne is due to come off IR after the Panthers buy.
34:51Maybe a pickup in deep, full PPR leagues. Yeah.
34:54Yeah, on the Chuba, I just want to give a shout out to the projections team and everyone who works on the rankings, the ETR rankings and stuff.
35:03It was hard. We had Chuba Hubbard, I believe, like in the 70s or maybe 80 overall.
35:09And Jonathan Brooks, like 120 overall, all offseason. And people were like screaming.
35:13You guys don't know what you're talking about. Jonathan Brooks is a star.
35:18Chuba Hubbard sucks. Like Jonathan Brooks, have you seen his college tape?
35:22And we held strong on that. Thankfully. Chuba was also hurt for like two thirds of training camp.
35:28Exactly. Exactly. And like Brooks was healthy. Chuba was hurt.
35:31Then it flipped. But yeah, it looks like it's going to turn out with Chuba as one of the best picks in
35:39fantasy, at least for the first month and if not for much longer.
35:43All right. Chicago Bears. I mean, Bears dominated the Jets on Sunday.
35:47It was mostly with their defense, though. They win 23 to 12.
35:51I guess the story offensively was their running back spot because DeAndre Swift lost a fumble midway through the third quarter.
35:58He got benched. I mean, outright benched by Ben Johnson did DeAndre Swift.
36:03That allowed Kyle Mononga to rack up 30 carries, 146 yards and two touchdowns.
36:07They even gave Roshan Johnson work as DeAndre Swift watched when Kyle Mononga hurt his thumb late in the game.
36:14So one fumble and he's out here for DeAndre Swift.
36:18Evan, what do you think of how it went for the Bears in the backfield on Sunday?
36:23Well, you said at the top that the Bears won this game mostly with their defense.
36:29And man, you are sounding like a 670 to score radio caller right now because they did not win this game with their defense.
36:37Now, they've had the best third down defense in the NFL so far.
36:41I don't know how sustainable that is, you know, to be that good on.
36:46They just get off the field on third down, period.
36:49They get to third down. They get off the field on third down.
36:54They won this game with their running game because the Jets only ran 32 plays in the entire game and the Bears ran 87.
37:02So the Jets aren't going to be able to generate any offense.
37:06I don't care if they only have 32 plays and the Bears are just running it down willfully, just running it down
37:13their throat, you know, time and time again. The best protection for a bad defense, I still think that the Bears are a bad defense.
37:22Maybe I'm too stuck in my priors, but, you know, they had, I mean, they faced what?
37:28The Vikings, you know, here, I mean, they don't have talent.
37:31So I am betting against the Bears defense going forward.
37:35However, when you have a running game that is this dominant, offensive line that is this dominant where you can lose your
37:42left tackle Braxton Jones, you just plug in Theo Benedict and you're just running it down people's throats over and over again.
37:50You've got two badass running backs to where you can bench the guy that you gave a three year, $37 million contract
37:57on September 12th and just go to the next running back, Kyle Manunga, who's got a massive head, by the way.
38:04I mean, he is just spearheading guys and running.
38:07He looks like Frank Gore out there. I mean, that is a great way to protect your defense.
38:13If you just have the ball the entire game.
38:16Absolutely. I mean, the defense, like Evan said, Jets were 0 for 7 on third downs, but Jets also only had 4.9 yards per play.
38:25They only had seven first downs the entire game.
38:28But yes, Bears had these outrageously, outrageously long drives.
38:31Time of possession was 42 minutes for the Bears, 17 for the Jets.
38:35Caleb Williams is going to be out in week five as well.
38:39They're going to go with Tyson Bajan again. I thought Bajan, I actually thought Bajan would perform better in fantasy.
38:46They just didn't need him to. So I thought he was fine.
38:50Not great. In the passing game, two really notable things, Evan.
38:54The Kalief Raymond thing did not happen here. Just two targets for Kalief Raymond.
38:58Nine targets for Colson Loveland. So 26% share for Colson Loveland.
39:02The Kalief Raymond thing comes back down to earth.
39:05I'm not saying that's going to be sticky. I think it's going to be game to game, but it's great to see on Colson Loveland at least there.
39:15So over their last three games, the Bears have played Carson Wentz in a rainstorm.
39:20The Broken Eagles. And Geno Smith, who had 32 plays in the game.
39:24So I am not, you know, you listen to the radio here.
39:28They're trying to come up with a name for the Bears defense.
39:32You know, like trying to revive the Monsters or the Midway.
39:36Dennis' Menaces is the best that they've done so far.
39:39Named after Dennis Allen, Dennis' Menaces. Yes. To be clear, I do not think their defense is good.
39:45I just think it's possible or likely that Lions, Cowboys are worse.
39:50Especially when they play in Chicago. But yeah, running the ball obviously is going to make a huge difference also.
39:56Well, they've been blitzing a lot. And the blitzes have been working.
40:00And they've been getting off the field on third down.
40:04So that is a winning formula. I don't know if that's sustainable.
40:08We'll see. Yeah, and they're facing maybe the worst offensive line in the NFL this week in the Packers.
40:14Let's go to the Cowboys. So the Cowboys were facing this extremely talented Texans defense in Houston.
40:20And they still put up 34 points in a 34 to 30 win.
40:24CeeDee Lamb was on another planet. 17 catches, 189 yards, and a touchdown on 21 targets in the game.
40:31For CeeDee Lamb here, Evan, what do you think of Cowboys performance in Houston?
40:35Yeah, the Cowboys got creative with CeeDee Lamb in this game.
40:39Moved him into the slot a bunch. He'd been playing outside a fair amount in the first three games.
40:46He was like about 40% in the slot. And he still wound up getting a bunch of yards directly against Derek Stingley.
40:53So he was just on another planet. And his chemistry, when Dak Prescott is cooking and when CeeDee Lamb is 100% healthy,
41:00CeeDee Lamb is as good as anybody. He's going to be as productive as anybody.
41:06He's looking like a steal right now for a guy that was starting to fall into the second round in drafts by the end of draft season.
41:15Yeah, they got an awesome. I did the Buccaneers-Dallas write-up, the Thursday night game this morning before the show.
41:21And I just got excited writing it up because it's going to be another big-time performance from Dak and CeeDee.
41:28And I think Pickens can go off too. Yeah, you mentioned Pickens there.
41:32People are somewhat panicked on George Pickens. He only had three targets in this game while CeeDee had 21.
41:39Pickens did catch a 53-yard bomb. He ran 46 routes in this game, only one fewer than CeeDee Lamb.
41:45I continue to think that George Pickens is a good buy low.
41:49I understand that it's frustrating, but I continue to think he's a good buy low if people are panicked.
41:56Roll has been fine. Yeah, I think you could go nuts on Thursday night.
42:00Buy low on George Pickens right now. Also, Javante Williams, he's playing 75%.
42:05I know he hasn't been super efficient. He's had some very inefficient games.
42:09He was very efficient when he ran against the Ravens.
42:12But otherwise, he hasn't been very efficient. But when a guy is averaging 20 touches a game, 75% of the snaps, in
42:20a really good offense, and leads the NFL in carries inside the five-yard line, he's going to score a lot of touchdowns.
42:27And that is what has carried Javante Williams so far.
42:31And the Cowboys will be getting back Tyler Smith, maybe the best guard in the NFL soon.
42:36Brian Schottenheimer was talking about he can maybe return on Thursday night against Tampa Bay.
42:42I mean, on the Pickens point, the Javante point, all of this, they're going to continue to need to score 30-plus points in games.
42:50I think this is the worst defense in the NFL.
42:53They have faced the Giants, Commanders, Ravens, and Texans.
42:56And the Cowboys are still dead last in yards per play allowed.
43:00So, I mean, we talk about it all the time.
43:04The interaction between a team's defense and offense matters.
43:07And, like, Cowboys defense being so bad is obviously a great thing here.
43:11For ceiling tail outcomes on the past game, Javante, everyone.
43:14Speaking of bad defenses, let's go to the Detroit Lions.
43:18They fall to 2-2 with a loss at Carolina on Sunday Night Football.
43:22I guess the good news, Evan, was Jamison Williams finally got going.
43:26Six catches, 102 yards on eight targets. He had a couple drops, too, which has been an issue for him this year.
43:34Could have been a much bigger game for him.
43:37I know I've said that almost every week about Jamison Williams.
43:40But, yeah, Evan, what do you think of Lions' game on Sunday night?
43:45Yeah, Jamison Williams could have had 200 yards in this game.
43:48And he dropped an early one for a potential 90-yard touchdown early, early.
43:53And they kept going to him, which to me was really reassuring.
43:57The Lions are who we thought they were. And that's like Mike Leach, Texas Tech, Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State.
44:03You know, this team has no defense. I mean, Kelvin Shepard, their defensive coordinator, he needs to start worrying about his job.
44:11And I understand that he has been given, you know, probably the worst back seven in the NFL, due in large part
44:18to injuries and a Terry and Arnold disaster. But, I mean, they're not doing anything right.
44:24You know, we just talked about the Bears. The Bears are more than holding their own with deficient personnel.
44:30And the Lions are not holding their own in the slightest.
44:34But that is great for us in fantasy. Sam Laporte is a smash every week.
44:39I'm on Rod Jamison Williams. Yeah, it was notable to me that Isaac Tesla got eight targets for a 15% share in this game.
44:47That is not normal. He has been a really, really, really bad target earner in his NFL career.
44:53So I'm going to watch that. I don't think it'll be sticky, but I'm going to watch that.
44:59Because if Tesla is going to earn 15% of the targets, it's going to make a big difference.
45:05But yeah, this game against the Cardinals Sunday. I mean, this is a main slate game.
45:11We'll be talking about this on Friday. It's going to be one of the craziest things in DFS just because so many
45:18games are projected to be low scoring. And then you have Lions at Cardinals.
45:23So exciting one there in week six. Packers. Packers went to Tampa and they barely beat a Jalen Daniels-led Bucs team 17-14.
45:30Just an ugly game. I mean, the longest pass play for Jordan Love was a 25-yard pass to backup tight end Mark Redmond.
45:38I mean, no explosives whatsoever for Golden or Watson here.
45:41Evan, what do you think of Packers' performance in Tampa?
45:45Yeah, well, the Packers had... All right, so Jordan Love had 30 dropbacks.
45:49He took zero sacks and was only hit two times.
45:53However, as you mentioned, that came at the expense of explosive plays in the passing game.
45:58And that's the best thing the Packers have going for them.
46:02It's bad. They still try to run the ball, even though they know it's not going to work.
46:08They wrecked up 25 carries. There will be games, though, when they're not facing Jalen Daniels, where the Packers are forced to throw the ball a ton more.
46:17And so I still love Watson, Golden Craft. It's just so concentrated.
46:21They need to be pushed. And they play the Bears on Sunday.
46:25They're way more likely to be pushed there. So still really like these guys.
46:30I know it was kind of a weird game.
46:33They were like, hey, let's force Jalen Daniels. Let's play conservative.
46:37Force Jalen Daniels to beat us. And frankly, that was the right game plan.
46:42I mean, I thought so. Rams. Rams started really slow in Philly.
46:46They found themselves down 20-10 at halftime against a depleted Eagles team.
46:50Then in the fourth quarter, crazy comeback for the Rams.
46:53Kyrie Williams scores twice to win the game 24-20.
46:56I mean, it was a wild scene. The Rams coaches were like in the booth beaking at the Eagles fans.
47:03Really intense game. Evan, what do you think of Rams' late win in Philly?
47:08Well, Puka Nakua is incredible. He comes back from the two-week hip injury, and it's like nothing has changed.
47:14He took, you know, Rick Woolen to the woodshed time and time again.
47:18Kyron Williams has been incredible. And he has something like 22 targets over the last two weeks.
47:24That wasn't necessarily something that was in his bag in previous seasons.
47:28But if they're going to use him like that, I mean, he's going to go absolutely nuclear.
47:34He has waxed Blake Corum over the last two weeks.
47:37That's looking like a big win for the machine in our debates.
47:41But, yeah, Puka Nakua coming back and performing like that was awesome to see.
47:46I think that Matthew Stafford has not played his best football through four weeks.
47:51So we'll see if he can pick it up a little bit.
47:55But Puka Nakua, he's right back in it. Yeah.
47:58On Puka. So the report was he has a pre-hernia.
48:01In other words, at any time, the hernia could pop through and he might need to go through the surgery that Tank
48:09Bigsby is having that we already mentioned and be out six weeks.
48:13I don't know, man. That's like speculation from the Twitter docs, etc.
48:17All I know is that Puka looked incredible and they did not limit him at all.
48:22Shout out to Schefter and Glazer who both reported Sunday morning that Puka would not be limited.
48:28He ended up playing 76 of 84 snaps, ran 49 routes on 54 Stafford dropbacks, handled 12 carries and a goal line carry.
48:36So I don't know, man. I know people are still like freaked out about Puka.
48:41Puka, it's just such a valuable asset to have.
48:44I don't think I'd be trying to sell. And by the way, we had all these other reports like out of L.A.
48:51Matthew Stafford last August, he's on his deathbed, Adam.
48:54He has this back thing. He may not survive.
48:57He may never play football again. Wins the MVP.
49:00Haven't heard anything about the back injury since. So I don't know.
49:05Certainly Puka is not great for Devontae Adams. And, you know, that I believe was another man versus machine debate.
49:11Devontae Adams has scored 39.5 and 20.7 PPR points in two starts without Puka this year.
49:17When Puka has played, Adams has had 5.6 and 7.2 points.
49:20So huge splits there. Obviously still like Devontae Adams, but huge, huge splits there.
49:25Purely. One more note. So prior to week four, Terrence Ferguson went on IR.
49:30So that means he is out for three more games at least.
49:34Tyler Higbee had another good game here. Five for 67 on six targets.
49:38I mean, he's put up fantasy viable, you know, top 12 tight end viable production in two games without Terrence Ferguson was
49:46because we're considering week three a game without Terrence Ferguson because he barely played.
49:51And then Tyler Higbee jumped right into his role.
49:54I think that Tyler Higbee will be a fantasy starter against Buffalo on Monday night.
49:59Buffalo has had major problems at linebacker. The Buffalo fan base is calling for Terrell Bernard to be benched.
50:05All this. I mean, and so, yeah, Tyler Higbee, if you have him, he's going to be a start against Buffalo.
50:12Agreed. And Colby Parkinson also didn't play here, which I think matters for the Tyler Higbee projection because they went to a
50:20ton of 11 personnel, which the Rams, like their old school style.
50:24So Higbee ran 41 routes. Davis Allen ran 13 routes.
50:27Claire round. Claire played just one snap in the game.
50:30Their second round pick, Max Claire, played one snap in the game.
50:34So yes, we know Ferguson is out. If Parkinson is going to be out again, totally agree.
50:40Tyler Higbee, good play. Last thing for me, Evan mentioned the Kyron Williams pass catching.
50:45He has run 99 routes this season, has Kyron, versus 29 for Blake Corum.
50:50Kyron has 21 catches in four games. His previous career high is 36 catches.
50:55Like, he's going to shatter that. And high value touches have been great for Kyron.
51:00I mean, absolutely great. Let's go to Minnesota. Yes, the Vikings played this game without Justin Jefferson, but they were home against
51:07the Dolphins and they failed to score a touchdown.
51:10I know they could have scored if Hawkinson didn't go down at the one on purpose, but this team is now dead last.
51:18The Vikings are dead last in the entire NFL in yards per play.
51:22Despite that, they are 4-0. So Evan, what do you think of Vikings win over the Dolphins?
51:28Just winning on pure defense, pure and simple defense, and not simple defense, highly complex defense.
51:34But a big concern here for me for Minnesota was the loss of left guard Donovan Jackson, who was a first-round pick
51:41a few years ago, and left tackle Christian Derasaw, who left the game with a concussion slash neck injury.
51:47Kyler did kind of settle in as the game progressed.
51:51He started off looking so rocky against Miami, but he did go 13 of 14 for 120 yards with no sacks taken
51:58in the final two drives against Miami. But these offensive line issues really are bothering me.
52:04We'll see on Justin Jefferson. What do you think about Justin Jefferson for week five?
52:09I think he has a legit chance to play.
52:12I'd probably say, as we sit here right now, maybe like 60, 65, 70% chance to play in week five.
52:19One caveat to those completion numbers that I mentioned earlier for Kyler Murray, it was just hitch route after hitch route after hitch route to TJ Hawkinson.
52:28Just easy, easy stuff. I mean, that's a way for Kevin O'Connell to manufacture some offense.
52:33But that's really what happened there, and that's why TJ Hawkinson had a monster game.
52:38Oh, I didn't think Hawkinson had this in him.
52:41I didn't think he was capable of 13 catches for 119 yards on 13 targets.
52:46But yeah, shout out to him without Justin Jefferson facing the Dolphins.
52:50Yeah, on Kyler. Well, they essentially ran their passing offense through TJ Hawkinson in this game.
52:56And you know, it's somewhat scary to me for Jordan Addison that that was the game plan, because this was the best spot of Jordan Addison's career.
53:05You're home, you're facing Miami, and there's no Justin Jefferson.
53:08And Addison still only had a 16% target share.
53:11Only four catches were 52 yards. So yeah, that was a red flag for me on Addison.
53:17I still think, I know we mentioned it last week, I still think there's a very good chance Carson Wentz gets under
53:24center at some point for this team. Kyler Murray is dead last in QBR this season.
53:30He's 23rd, he was 23rd among 29 qualifiers in 2025 in that category before getting benched for Jacoby Brissett.
53:36So I want to see Kyler with Justin Jefferson for a full game or multiple full games.
53:42But yeah, it's just not good. Oh man, Aaron Jones, 28 more opportunities here for Aaron Jones.
53:48The Vikings have a bye in week six, and Jordan Mason is expected back in week seven.
53:54But yeah, it's hard not to project another huge workload for Aaron Jones here in week five.
53:59Saints. I thought it was a really concerning performance from the Saints last night.
54:04They could not protect Tyler Shuck against a weak Falcons pass rush.
54:08They managed just 10 points through three quarters. They get some garbage time stuff, but they lose the game.
54:15They're now one and three. It was a really concerning watch, Evan.
54:19Like hard for me to watch. I know that a lot of I ended up getting there and Shuck ended up getting there okay.
54:27And Juwan was okay and Vele was good, but it was still concerning.
54:31Watch, Evan, what you think of Saints performance last night.
54:34Yeah, this is becoming a recurring theme though for the Saints.
54:38I mean, they've generated so much second half production this season.
54:42That was part of the thesis. I mean, we were big on the Saints before the year, but that was part of the thesis.
54:50They play in a dome. Their defense might be bad.
54:53You know, they want to run a ton of plays.
54:57They've got weapons in the passing game. Juwan Johnson continues to be an excellent weekly start.
55:02Devon Vele, my God, I know it was in garbage time, but you see the toe tap touchdown.
55:08That won me a fantasy matchup. Obviously, Olave is awesome.
55:12Olave did get dinged up late in the game, but he was going through the post-game stuff.
55:17I think that he'll be all right. But you've got to live with this because this is who the Saints are.
55:24It's nice that Kellen Moore didn't take out the starters.
55:28And people were complaining about that on Twitter and stuff, but that's good for us because we need them to keep racking up stuff.
55:36But yeah, I mean, they got there, but this is part of the thesis.
55:41Yeah. This was the first game without Travis Etienne, and Alvin Kamara just does what he does, which is high-value touches.
55:48He had two short touchdowns, and he had five catches.
55:51Don't get me wrong. Alvin Kamara is one of the worst running backs in the NFL, but he's going to get high-value touches.
55:59He's not making anyone miss anymore. I mean, it's brutal, but goal line carries and catches.
56:04You're viable in fantasy if you get that stuff, period.
56:08Also, Kendra Miller, early in the game, horrible lost fumble, deep in Saints territory that led directly to a Falcons touchdown.
56:15I don't know if we're going to see much Kendra Miller the rest of the way.
56:20They have to play the Vikings Sunday. You know, that's going to be an impossible spot for Alvin Kamara, but yeah.
56:27Oh, last thing on Saints. So, Underhill reported that he spotted Jordan Tyson sprinting, stop his starting as he comes off his hamstring injury.
56:35Schefter then put out a story that made it sound like the most likely return date for Jordan Tyson is week nine.
56:43Because, remember, Saints play in Paris in week seven.
56:46Highly doubt you want to bring him back for that.
56:49And then you have a bye in week eight.
56:52So, I still think week nine is the most likely scenario, but it's really good to see Jordan Tyson out there running
57:00and sprinting off of the hamstring stuff here already.
57:03Underhill also said that he recently saw Jordan Tyson dunk.
57:06Good. So, there's another positive. Good. I mean, Jordan Tyson, I know, like, this was the knock on him and why people
57:14said we were too high on Jordan Tyson was because of the injuries.
57:18But if he did not get hurt, he'll be going berserk right now.
57:22Oh, my God. He'd be crushing. But I think that Vela has played so well that it's, like, worth having an actual
57:30conversation about, you know, now they can maybe feel like they can ease Jordan Tyson in.
57:35Yeah. I don't disagree. I think Vela is a player, man.
57:39And, yeah, you know, they're going to play both.
57:42I mean, like, I would not, to your point, I would not be shocked if when Jordan Tyson comes back, they ease
57:50him in a bit because Vela has played so well.
57:53Giants. Jameis Winston and the Giants hang 36 on the Cardinals Sunday.
57:57Giants are now 3-1. We got a bit of the vintage Jameis experience here.
58:02You know, he threw three touchdowns. He threw for 250 yards.
58:05He had 8.6 yards per attempt. But he also got picked off twice and took four sacks.
58:11But, like, my point is when these games get loose and the Giants have to drop Jameis back a decent amount and
58:19he got 33 dropbacks here, he's going to sling it.
58:22And he's going to get you things like Malik Nabors, 112 yards, and a touchdown on six catches.
58:28Evan, what do you think of Giants game Sunday?
58:31Yeah, I don't have anything really to add to that.
58:34You know, I mean, I agree with all that.
58:38And that's pretty much the extent of the passing game analysis, I think.
58:42Najee Harris had a bad fumble in this game.
58:45And I wonder if that will lead to an eventual reduction in playing time.
58:50They've been trying to work him in. Devin Singletary was inactive for this game.
58:54But, yeah, I mean, it's the Jameis Winston experience.
58:57We've seen it so many times. We love it for Malik Nabors when it's going well.
59:03We also know that the Giants don't want to play that way.
59:07But when they do, it's going to be great for Malik Nabors.
59:11Yeah, and one big thing was, like, there was some talk after last week that there was something wrong with Winston's arm.
59:18It was good to see him at least, like, put that to bed.
59:23And if they can keep winning, he'll keep J.J.
59:26McCarthy off the field for longer, which obviously I think is good for Nabors, too.
59:31I actually thought Nabors was a decent sell last week in season-long formats, mostly on the fear that McCarthy would get in
59:38soon, that Nabors' knee isn't right, the coaches are boomers.
59:42I probably should have called for Nabors as a sell after this stretch where he played Cardinals last week, Commanders this week, and then Saints.
59:50But then at Texans, at Eagles. So, yeah, certainly some good spots here for Nabors and Jameis.
59:56Niners. Niners improved to 4-0 with a very strong defensive performance against the Broncos.
60:01They win 24-14. Best play of the game on offense for the Niners, to me, was the George Kittle 56-yard touchdown catch.
60:08If you did not realize that Kittle was fully back off the Achilles, that was kind of the play that made everybody
60:16be like, oh my God, Kittle is all the way back.
60:19Evan, what do you think of Niners' latest win?
60:22Yeah, I mean, I think that a large reason why the 49ers won this game so handily was because the Broncos' offense
60:30is an absolute train wreck, which we will talk about when we get to them.
60:35But, yeah, I mean, Brock Purdy has not even taken a sack through four games.
60:40The 49ers' offensive line has not had a single injury, I don't believe, so far this season, which not a lot of offensive lines can say that.
60:49Mike Evans, he's got that dog in him, and you can't take the dog out of Mike Evans.
60:55And George Kittle is an absolute freak of nature, what, nine or ten months removed from a torn Achilles.
61:02And I think Debo Samuel looks decent. I mean, they're actively giving him two, three carries a game, and he's using those productively.
61:09So I think he's a fantasy starter right now.
61:12With the way that this offense is functioning and with how much he's playing, Debo Samuel is, like, at very worst, a wide receiver three slash flex.
61:21There's just not a lot of other places for the ball to go.
61:26Mike Evans came into this game with a rib issue.
61:29He did take a big hit over the middle that I saw.
61:33He kind of got up a little slow, but he seemed to be okay.
61:38After the game, Niners confirmed Evans did not aggravate the rib issue and expect him to be healthier in week five.
61:45So that's good on Mike Evans. Other note that I had was in some big spots, like third quarter, tie game, there
61:53was a third and one and a fourth and one.
61:56Kalen Black was in there and got those carries, not Christian McCaffrey.
62:00McCaffrey did come in and get a goal line carry on a second down later on that drive.
62:06He got stuffed. Black came in for the third down.
62:09So I still love Christian McCaffrey. He's still an awesome, awesome play.
62:14We're still going to have him very high in the rest of season top 150.
62:19I just want to note there's been some big spots where Kalen Black was in there in this game.
62:25Well, you know, them throwing easy stuff to Dean Bo Samuel and giving him handoffs isn't great for Christian McCaffrey either.
62:32When, you know, we know that Christian McCaffrey isn't as explosive as he was squarely in his prime.
62:38And also when we're talking about dividing, you know, deciding between him and these other elite running back ones.
62:45I mean, I still think that Christian McCaffrey is, you know, in the, maybe the second tier of the elite running back
62:52ones, but he's toward the bottom of that tier.
62:55Yeah. And at Seattle, huge, huge game. I'll be very curious to see the McCaffrey usage in this game.
63:02You know, obviously one of the biggest games of the year here coming up on Sunday, Niners at Seahawks.
63:08Bucks. So Jalen Daniels, the undrafted free agent out of Kansas started this game and it does not go well.
63:15He threw two interceptions. He took three sacks. He managed 148 passing yards in a 17-14 home loss to the Packers.
63:22Because Daniels did run eight times for 55 yards, but I think it went kind of as we expected here.
63:29Evan, what do you think of Jalen Daniels? Any other Bucks thoughts?
63:33I think it could have been a lot worse.
63:36I think that Jalen Daniels kind of handled himself well, all things considered.
63:40And, you know, the Bucks might have stumbled upon like a quality backup, you know, for Baker Mayfield, who they just signed
63:47to an extension, but is obviously injured right now.
63:51There was a report from James Palmer that, all right, so the Bucks have this game on Thursday night against Dallas.
63:58And then they have a 10-day break before Pittsburgh.
64:01James Palmer reported that Baker Mayfield could be back for week six against Pittsburgh, which would be good news for the passing game members.
64:09I don't even think against Dallas that you can use Egbuka or any of the other Bucks pass catchers with Jalen Daniels at quarterback.
64:17God, you know, they're playing the Cowboys. How could I not start a Mac Egbuka against the Cowboys?
64:23But I hear you. It's really going to be a tough click.
64:27Yeah, it's going to be a really tough click on both him and Godwin.
64:32The other story here, non-pass game related, Sean Tucker was back for the Bucks.
64:36He got two short yardage carries. Sean Tucker scored a touchdown from two yards out.
64:42That is not good for Bucky Irving, you know, that Sean Tucker is back as a short yardage goal line guy.
64:49And then also Bucky had zero catches in this game.
64:52Obviously, that's partly due to Jalen Daniels starting. But Kenny Gainwell was in late game hurry up.
64:58Kenny Gainwell caught a touchdown from Jalen Daniels. So I was excited about Bucky's usage coming out of week one, week two.
65:05It's gotten worse here for Bucky lately. Yeah, this was the fear.
65:09You know, the preseason fear on Bucky Irving was the high value touches, no targets.
65:14And he hasn't played a snap inside the 10-yard line since week one.
65:19So, I mean, look, you got to use Bucky Irving against Dallas.
65:23But it's worry time, I think, for Bucky Irving in terms of those high value touches.
65:28Yeah. I mean, he needs Baker back, and I think things will settle down.
65:33But, yeah, it's tough right now. And then Todd Bowles after the game was like, we need to get Sean Tucker the ball more.
65:41I don't even believe anything Bowles says. I feel like he just— All right, fair enough.
65:46You know what? That's totally fine. I agree. He just says stuff just to say stuff.
65:52It's wild. Like, all right. Last NFC team is the Washington football team, a.k.a.
65:57The Commanders. This was the London game on Sunday morning.
66:00Commanders were actually playing well early in this game when Marcus Mariota was in there.
66:05Marcus Mariota goes down with a knee injury. They're forced to go to Athan Kalikamanis, the Baklava bomber out of Greece.
66:12They end up losing 30-13 to the Colts. Evan, what did you think of the Commanders game in London Sunday morning?
66:19Did you say the Baklava bomber? That's what they're calling him, the Baklava bomber, yes.
66:24Unbelievable. I thought he was the Greek canon, but I like the Baklava bomber much more.
66:30Yeah, I mean, I don't—you know, this offense looks shot right now.
66:34I mean, they're using four running backs. None of them are good.
66:38McClurin was out. You know, and they're down to the Baklava bomber at quarterback.
66:43So it's just like there's no hope. It sounds like Jaden Daniels has a real chance to be back in Week 5,
66:50and that's where the hope stems from. Well, that's what I was going to say.
66:55They're home against the Giants in Week 5, and I kind of think Jaden Daniels is going to play in this game.
67:03And that would be exciting. And I think they're going to get Rashad White back here.
67:08I will note that with Rashad White out, Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt did something he's never really done before.
67:14Be an actual threat in the passing game. JCM four targets in this game with Rashad White out.
67:20But as I said, do think Rashad White's going to be back this week.
67:24Hopefully Jaden Daniels. And then McClurin, we'll see. This was an injury that McClurin sustained during Friday's practice.
67:31I'm not sure the severity there. Commanders went to a four-wide receiver rotation in this game.
67:36Diggs, Antonio Williams, Traylon Burks, and Deami Brown. So yeah, a lot of moving parts here for the Commanders.
67:42Their defense is so bad. Getting Jaden back, it's still like a spot that I want to watch.
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69:11Let's flip it over to the AFC now. Start with the Buffalo Bills.
69:16This was a pretty bad loss, I thought, for the Bills.
69:19Home versus a weapon deficient Patriots team. No A.J.
69:22Brown again, obviously. Bills lose 29-26. Also in this game, DJ Moore aggravated his shoulder injury.
69:28Evan, what do you think of Bills' loss to their division rival Patriots?
69:32Well, the Bills have big-time problems on defense, and I think that that's being exposed on a weekly basis at this point.
69:40They've got two stud defensive linemen in Dion Walker and Greg Rousseau.
69:44But the further that you get back in the Bills' defense, the more problems that they have.
69:50Obviously, that was exacerbated by no Christian Benford in this game.
69:53But Maxwell Harrison got took to school. This is good for fantasy, though.
69:58This is good stuff for fantasy. The Bills did not play their best game for the second week in a row offensively.
70:05But I think that ultimately that's going to be a good thing for fantasy.
70:10More shootouts is good news for Josh Allen and company.
70:13Starting to get worried about this DJ Moore injury.
70:16They're not saying it's serious or anything, but this is the second time he's had an issue with his left shoulder.
70:23He kind of like spiked his helmet. He was mega tilted.
70:27And even despite that, even with DJ Moore leaving early, Don Kincaid, just two targets.
70:32The guy who benefited most and continues to benefit most when DJ Moore is out is Keon Coleman.
70:38Keon Coleman in four quarters without DJ Moore, 30% of the targets.
70:42Shakir, 17%. James Cook, 13%. Palmer, 13%. Kincaid, 13%.
70:45That was via Daigle. For what it's worth, after the game, Joe Brady was asked about Don Kincaid's lack of involvement.
70:52And he said, quote, I have to be better.
70:55There's no reason Don Kincaid should have two targets, especially with the flow of the game.
71:01I can't deny, though, that Keon Coleman played a really good game and continues to play well and show that he can play at the NFL level.
71:10Six catches, 116 yards, and a touchdown here. Evan, any panic for you on Kincaid?
71:15I mean, it's disappointing, but the good news is that Joe Brady is well aware of it, as you mentioned, and I
71:22mean, you know, Don Kincaid running 17 routes in a game and seeing two targets, especially in a game where DJ Moore leaves early again, that is unacceptable.
71:32It does sound like Joe Brady knows it, though.
71:35Kincaid was wide open in the end zone, by the way, and Allen just didn't see him.
71:41I mean, wide open from like six yards out, and Allen just didn't see him.
71:46So we might not even be having this conversation if not for that.
71:50Sorry, go ahead. So the Bills got to fix these problems that they have.
71:55They got the Rams coming up in L.A. What it seems like is happening to me with DJ Moore is that his shoulder is popping out.
72:04You know, that's what happens with these shoulder subluxations, you know, the dislocations, and they can play through it, but then if
72:11it keeps popping out, they got to leave the game.
72:15Yeah. I mean, is it possible that the light has flipped on for Keon Coleman here?
72:20Yeah. I mean, it certainly looks that way. Like, I'm still skeptical about him long term, but when you play with Josh
72:27Allen, certainly your talent can be elevated. And if he's going to be a featured player, that's great.
72:33I just think that the featured player stuff is going to bounce around all season like it has been the last few years for the Buffalo Bills.
72:43Last note for me here. James Cook was good in this game, I thought.
72:47But man, two yards out, two yards, not one yard out, not half yard, two yards out, they ran a tush push with Josh Allen.
72:56It's just tough. And like Ty Johnson played here.
72:59So James Cook only ran 12 routes on 36 dropbacks, and he lost that two yard.
73:04Like I thought from the two, they would go to James Cook, but they went to Allen.
73:10So I just wanted to flag that on James Cook.
73:13Still an awesome, awesome asset. But yeah, should be so much more.
73:17He's such a good player. Bengals. Bengals mustered just 17 points against the Jaguars, fall to two and two.
73:24I thought the game turned, you know, at least a little when Jamar Chase sustained the concussion on, I don't want to
73:31say dirty play, but just an ugly, nasty face mask from Jarius Jones.
73:36He gets hit from behind as he's getting his head like twisted back the wrong way, head slams into the turf.
73:43Bengals offense just not as efficient without Jamar Chase.
73:46Of course, I'm not sure what his status will be for week five.
73:50He's in the protocol. Evan, what do you think of Bengals loss to the Jaguars?
73:55Yeah, well, the Bengals offense hasn't been very efficient through four games.
73:59And, you know, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins had been healthy until this point.
74:04They both got hurt in this game. And I think that some of it may have to deal with, definitely some of
74:11it has to do with the fact that the Bengals, historically, they've been almost a shotgun only offense.
74:18They've been trying to do more under center plays.
74:21They spent a ton of their offseason trying to implement more under center plays so they can be better in play action.
74:28It can help the running game. It can slow down the pass rush.
74:32But it has been extremely ineffective on the under center plays so far this year.
74:38They have the lowest yards per play in the NFL.
74:41So I wonder if the Bengals are probably going to scrap that.
74:45That actually might be a good thing. What we have to talk about is that the Bengals have the Dolphins coming up next and then a bye week.
74:54And they've got T. Higgins dealing with the groin injury, the adductor injury, and Jamar Chase dealing with the concussion.
75:01Are we going to be talking about Mike Jacecki and Dante Myers?
75:05Because I kind of think that we will be.
75:08Yeah, so I'd consider Jamar Chase questionable. They're calling T.
75:12Higgins day to day. So not a serious injury on him.
75:15Dante Myers ran 54 routes in this game in week four.
75:19And he played well. You know, seven catches, 82 yards on nine targets.
75:23He is an undrafted free agent out of Delta State.
75:275'11", 186. First, he went to the CFL. And then he played so on the CFL, he got to try it with the Bengals.
75:35Made the team. And now he might start. And now he might be in play in DFS.
75:41Like, that is a crazy, crazy story that you do not often see here on Dante Myers.
75:46Yeah, he won the Grey Cup with the Saskatchewan Rough Riders this past year.
75:51I was looking at his combine measurables. He's little and he ran 4-5-4, which that's not good.
75:57But you see him play. He looks like, I mean, he's got some serious juice, I think, just from seeing him play.
76:04So, yeah, I think there's a good chance that he will be in play in DFS against Miami, depending on the health of Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase.
76:14Yeah. Joe Burrow dropped back 58 times in this game and they called 13 runs.
76:19Again, 58 dropbacks against 13 runs. Burrow, 428 yards, but some really bad decisions.
76:24One in the red zone that was an awful interception, too.
76:27I also did want to note they did a tush push with Burrow at the goal line.
76:33I was surprised they did that. You know, that was notable for Chase Brown, who ran nine times for 10 yards, did
76:41salvage his fantasy day in a big way with 11 catches for Chase Brown here in this game.
76:47Browns. This was the Thursday game, Evan, and Deshaun Watson, I didn't think he was capable of this.
76:53Deshaun Watson, another very good game. Browns beat the Steelers on a late field goal, 27-24.
76:58Browns are now 3-1. Their wins are over Pittsburgh, Carolina, and Tampa.
77:02But Deshaun Watson is completing almost 70% of his passes.
77:06His quarterback rating is up over 100 now. So, Evan, are you buying this Deshaun Watson resurgence?
77:11What do you think of Browns game on Thursday?
77:14I'm buying that Deshaun Watson can support now at this point.
77:18And I was worried about this, very worried about this before the season.
77:22Number one, that he could hold off Shadur Sanders.
77:26Number two, that he could support a decent game from Casey Concepcion.
77:30Denzel Boston has been really good in three of the Browns' four games.
77:34Harold Fannin has been getting into the end zone.
77:37So that's what I'm buying from Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson is running a lot, but he's not like a – I don't
77:44think he's as explosive as a runner as he used to be.
77:48He has a lot of rushing attempts, though. Yeah, almost eight per game.
77:53It's crazy. Yeah, so – but, yeah, I just wanted some level of functionality from this Browns passing game so that we could use guys like Casey Concepcion.
78:02And I think that Todd Monken has given us that, and Deshaun Watson is playing well enough to maintain that, hopefully.
78:09Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Boston and Concepcion ran 37 routes each in this game.
78:14Jerry Judy, 19 routes. And I mentioned earlier that article from Schefter about trade candidates.
78:19He had Jerry Judy in there as another trade candidate, you know, in all the same teams, all the same wide receiver teams.
78:27May at least poke around here on Jerry Judy, who the Browns clearly should be trading.
78:32Anyway, last note I had on Browns, Quinshon Junkins without Dylan Sampson is just getting such a better opportunity to catch the football.
78:40He's playing more snaps. He's getting more targets. Last three weeks, Quinshon Junkins, who a lot of people, including myself, kind of
78:48pegged as a two-down, you know, run-only type of back, 14 targets for a 15% share over the last three weeks for Quinshon Junkins.
78:56With Sampson healthy for most of last year, Junkins only got 8% of the passes.
79:01Junkins is now on pace to catch 64 balls.
79:04He caught 26 balls all of last year. So big, big change.
79:08Didn't catch passes in college either. Big change. I mean, it's huge for his value.
79:13Huge, huge. Broncos. I mean, Evan teased this earlier.
79:16Broncos' offense continues to be a major problem. Broncos had three points through three quarters against the 49ers.
79:22Bo Nix is down to 60% completion percentage, 6.1 darts per attempt.
79:26That is way off of his numbers from his first two NFL seasons.
79:31Evan, thoughts on what's wrong with this Broncos' offense right now?
79:34Yeah, well, I know that in some circles, like, Dan Orlovsky is, like, kind of a meme.
79:40But when he does actual game tape analysis, he can be really, really good.
79:45And he did a segment recently on Bo Nix analyzing his week four.
79:49And it's just, there are guys running wide open through the scheme, and Bo Nix is not pulling the trigger.
79:56You know, period. And, you know, that's Jalen Waddell.
79:59And he ends up dumping down to R.J. Harvey over and over and over again when Jalen Waddell or Sutton or Pat
80:06Bryan or whomever is running wide open down the field.
80:10And Bo Nix just turns down the throws. So, and it's sad because, you know, he is getting good pass protection.
80:17The Broncos, they're another team that has not had an injury on the offensive line, I don't believe.
80:23And they're really talented in terms of pass protection, and Bo Nix is just not pulling the trigger.
80:29And it's got to be really, really frustrating for the coaches.
80:33Davis Webb, I'm sure, is getting a ton of heat right now in Denver when really the culprit is Bo Nix.
80:40Yeah. He's not doing that, like, off-script stuff. I feel like that's when Bo Nix has been best in his career, off-script.
80:47When he's in the pocket, yeah, it has not been good.
80:51On the R.J. Harvey thing that Evan mentioned, it kind of struck me as, like, a Darren Sproles type thing.
80:5810 catches for 68 yards for R.J. Harvey. Harvey missed a game this year.
81:03He's only played in three of them. He still leads the team in catches with 20.
81:08I mean, Jalen Waddell has 16 catches in four games.
81:11Now, Pat Bryan is going to be out. Ankle injury, he went to IR return.
81:16By the way, Patrick Sertan also went on IR return.
81:20Obviously, one of the best, if not the best, cornerbacks in the entire league.
81:24But, yeah, I'd love to see more focus on getting Jalen Waddell the ball.
81:29It'll be Marvin Mims and Troy Franklin subbing for Pat Bryan.
81:33But, yeah, as of now, I mean, this offense is not condensed, and it's bad.
81:38And that is a recipe for really trouble here in fantasy.
81:42Yeah, and as for J.K. Dobbins, you know, the thesis on J.K.
81:46Dobbins is built around the Broncos having a good defense and playing with positive game script, and they haven't done that enough this year.
81:54And then you have R.J. Harvey playing a ton.
81:57J.K. Dobbins is going to be dust, you know, for the foreseeable future.
82:01This Sertan injury, Evan, do you think we should be affecting projections on wide receivers that face the Broncos?
82:08They play the Chargers this week. In other words, how big do you think this Sertan to IR return is?
82:15Well, Riley Moss, one of the better number two cornerbacks in the NFL, gets targeted a ton, so he ends up giving up a lot of yards.
82:24So people are like, oh, we allow this much yards?
82:27But he actually is really good. He also suffered a rib injury in this game.
82:32So it's possible that we get a situation where the Broncos are going to be without their best two cornerbacks.
82:39I don't know about the Chargers, though. I mean, I have no faith whatsoever in the Chargers.
82:45We will get to them and their offensive line issues.
82:48But yes, I mean, the Broncos are reeling in the secondary right now.
82:52Yeah, both sides of the ball. All right, Texans.
82:55So CJ Stroud got Nico Collins back for this dream spot, home against the Cowboys.
83:00And Stroud delivered. Huge game. 347 yards, two touchdowns on just 31 attempts.
83:05Texans scored 30 points in this game. And the defense lets them down in a 34-30 loss to the Cowboys.
83:12Evan, what do you think of Texans' performance Sunday?
83:15Yeah, the Texans have been giving up a ton of explosive plays on defense.
83:19And that has kind of helped the fantasy production.
83:22I mean, CJ Stroud has been throwing for a lot of yards this year.
83:27And then that's going to be good for Nico Collins, who was an absolute beast in his first game back from the hamstring.
83:35Nico is so valuable. I mean, the offense is like dead without Nico.
83:39He comes back, seven catches, 118 yards, two touchdowns on eight targets.
83:43It allows other guys to stick in their secondary roles.
83:47And speaking of secondary roles, at long last, Jalen Knoll, 24 routes on 35 dropbacks.
83:52That was the same number as Booty and Hutchinson.
83:55So good to see on Jalen Knoll. The Dave Montgomery people are down bad, Evan.
84:00I mean, even in a leading script, even in a really good matchup, Texans were up 16-6 at halftime, 23-13 in the third quarter.
84:08And Dave Montgomery still only outcarried Woody Marks 10-6.
84:11Dave Montgomery, 2.7 yards per carry on the season.
84:14I know we talked about this last week, but it's going to be a really tough click on Dave Montgomery.
84:21He's either going to score a touchdown or you're going to be in trouble.
84:26I mean, that's kind of the way it is right now.
84:29Yeah, to me, he's almost an impossible click right now.
84:33He looks totally washed. I mean, he's getting hit in the backfield a ton, Dave Montgomery is.
84:39But he's not making any one miss. I didn't see his broken tackle numbers in this game yet.
84:45I'll look those up for the matchup column. But through three games, he had three missed tackles forced in the first three games.
84:52You know how many missed tackles Kenneth Walker forced in his first game of the season?
84:5815. Okay, so it just might be over for Dave Montgomery.
85:01I think the Texans realize that. That's why you see Nick Cesario, a GM, coming out and saying, we need to get the ball to Woody Marksmore.
85:11This is not working. The Texans have an analytics department too.
85:14You know, and the Texans can watch the film and be like, this is not going to happen for Dave Montgomery.
85:21I think that they're maybe slowly but surely acknowledging that.
85:25Yeah, and it just goes back to the dead zone stuff.
85:29Like the only reason to pick Dave Montgomery in fantasy was projectable workload.
85:33Literally, the only reason. And now as we see, if you're not good, projectable workload can go away very quickly.
85:40Colts. Colts went to London and beat the injury-ravaged commanders 30-13.
85:43This was supposed to be the breakout game for Josh Downs, Evan.
85:47No Keenan Allen. No Alec Pierce. Commanders have a horrific secondary.
85:51Downs, only four targets for a concerning 11.7% target share.
85:55Three catches, 16 yards. How concerning for you was this Josh Downs game?
85:59Anything else on the Colts? It was not concerning for me about Josh Downs.
86:04It was a major disappointment because I have a ton of Josh Downs.
86:08And I was like, oh, baby, this matchup is hot.
86:11But it just happens sometimes. I mean, especially when the quarterback plays like Daniel Jones did.
86:17Daniel Jones was horrible in this game. So things are going to – when there's not a functional passing game to begin
86:24with, you can't expect the members of the passing game to be able to function at the level that you expect.
86:31And so just hoping for better performance from Daniel Jones going forward.
86:35Yeah. I mean, it was concerning to me that Downs got out-targeted by Laquan Shredwell and Ashton Doolin.
86:42You know, that concerns me. But I, you know, at 5'9", 171, like being a huge target earner, getting downfield, it's just hard, you know.
86:50So I still love Josh Downs. I think he's awesome.
86:53I question the ceiling. But, you know, I've noted that for a while.
86:58Oh, Tyler Warren. They cannot get Tyler Warren the ball downfield.
87:01I mean, every pass to him is like right around the line of scrimmage.
87:06His average depth of target on the season, Tyler Warren, 2.3 yards.
87:10Like, we have to get him play action over the middle, at least like some balls, 10, 12 yards over the middle
87:18if he's going to be a real fantasy asset.
87:21Jaguars. Really good win for the Jaguars in Cincinnati, 22-17.
87:24Fantasy story to me was Bayshel Tootin getting robbed.
87:27I mean, he had a fine game, 19 touches for 91 yards.
87:31He had a 44-yard touchdown run called back by holding.
87:35He had another short touchdown run called back by holding.
87:38Yes, there were good calls. Yes, it was actually holding.
87:41But still, like, Bayshel Tootin is very, very close to absolutely popping off here, I think, having what you think of Jaguars' win in Cincinnati.
87:50Yeah, it's just a matter of time with Bayshel Tootin.
87:53He looks great. I mean, he almost had it here, you know, for the reasons that you already mentioned.
88:00The Jaguars' offensive line has been great so far.
88:03Bayshel Tootin looks super explosive. Chris Rodriguez had a nice touchdown run in this game, although he didn't have to really do
88:10a whole lot of work on that. He did show some burst on that run.
88:15But this is Bayshel Tootin's backfield largely, and it's just a matter of time before he goes off.
88:21He might still be, like, an excellent bye right now.
88:25The Jaguars look like maybe they're the best team in the AFC.
88:29I mean, they're playing awesome on defense, you know, and they've played awesome for an extended stretch dating back to the second half of last year.
88:37They are a really legit, good team, and Bayshel Tootin is balling.
88:42I would agree with Bayshel Tootin as a bye right now if anyone is selling.
88:47We'll talk more about that on the rest of the season's Top 150 show.
88:51Tomorrow, I know people are worried about Parker Washington.
88:54I kind of think this was just one of those games.
88:58Like, the Bengals funnel everything to tight ends. You know, Brenton Strange here had eight targets for a 35% share, while Parker Washington got just three targets.
89:07I'm not worried about it. I still think Parker Washington's a really, really, really good fantasy asset.
89:13But, um, Shepter did not mention Brian Thomas Jr.
89:16Actually, I think he might have. I can't remember.
89:19I don't want to say either way. But, um, Brian Thomas Jr., 23 routes here, verse 9 for Josh Cameron.
89:26That was good to see for Brian Thomas. I know you're going to love this.
89:31One of the big issues for Parker Washington is that, here's a stat from Rich Rebar.
89:36Trevor Lawrence has 14 total fourth quarter dropbacks through four games.
89:40He's dropped back to pass 14 times because the Jaguars are so good.
89:44Dominant. I mean, that is, you know, that's why we love the Lions.
89:49You know, that's why we love the Saints is because Tyler Shocks is going to drop back 25 times in the fourth quarter, you know, of one game.
89:58So, um, that is working against Parker Washington. Like, make no mistake, it was 23 dropbacks in this game for Trevor Lawrence, 27 dropbacks.
90:06Um, the Jaguars are really, really good, and that's going to work against the pass catcher.
90:12Speaking of pass catchers, how about ex-pass catcher Travis Hunter just breaking the ankles of T.
90:17Higgins on his interception? Have you watched the Travis Hunter playing basketball highlights yet?
90:22You haven't, have you? I haven't. Just go look at it on, like, do a Twitter search and find it.
90:29You will be blown away. I mean, he would have been the best player on Colorado's basketball team.
90:35I have no doubt. Colorado's, like, they make the tournament.
90:38I mean, I don't know if he could play in the NBA, but, I mean, just his athleticism is outrageous, and he's
90:46become, through four games, he's been one of the best cornerbacks in the league.
90:50I think we're going to see him stay there.
90:53Yeah, clearly. He played zero offensive snaps here in this game, did Travis Hunter.
90:58I know they'll be excited about this one, Evan.
91:01Jaguars' next two games, not one, next two games are in London.
91:05So they're basically moving the franchise to London for the next three weeks or so.
91:10Get out there. Get yourself acclimated. They're playing one game at Tottenham and one game at Wembley.
91:16Eagles and Texans next two games in London for the Jaguars.
91:20Two updates that have come into the show as we're recording here.
91:24Mike Garofalo is reporting that Jaden Daniels will start in week five, so that's good news.
91:29Schefter just reported that Seahawks decided not to sign Joe Mixon after he underwent his physicals, so Mixon ends up not getting a deal here with the Seahawks.
91:39Raiders. I mean, if the Raiders could have contained Kenneth Walker in this game, they probably would have beat the Chiefs and moved to 4-0.
91:47But they could not stop Kenneth Walker. They lose 30-27.
91:51Evan, what do you think of Raiders' game here in Vegas against the Chiefs?
91:55Well, I think that this kind of gave us confirmation.
91:59We've been talking about how there was a rumor, at least, that Ashton Gentey had aggravated the ankle injury that he suffered that led to the prayer circle.
92:08Well, I think he aggravated again in this game.
92:11So that sort of explains, you know, I think it explains at least partially why he's been so inefficient as a runner.
92:19That, to me, is the big story here. I mean, again, Brock Bowers is a freaking baller.
92:24I think it actually helps Michael Mayer that Brock Bowers is back.
92:28Michael Mayer is now the Raiders' number one tight end.
92:32If we think about it like that and then we think of Brock Bowers as JSN in the Clint Kubiak offense, then
92:39we can have some confidence that Michael Mayer is like a start caliber tight end in fantasy.
92:45I think that that's the way that we need to think of it.
92:49Absolutely. I mean, Brock Bowers has lined up wide 61 times this season, slot 45 times, inline tight end, just 16 snaps
92:57since he's been back for Brock Bowers. Bowers has run 83 routes on 90 Cousins dropbacks since returning.
93:03So yeah, I mean, this is like the alpha wide receiver role for Brock Bowers.
93:08And yeah, Michael Mayer, I mean, one of the best round 20 picks that you could have made.
93:14And if you're desperate, a tight end, certainly in play.
93:17One of the reasons these guys are in play, I didn't think her Cousins could do this anymore.
93:2331 of 52 for 365 and two touchdowns against the Chiefs.
93:27That's pretty impressive. And I was so sure that Fernando Mendoza would be in relatively soon.
93:33If Cousins keeps playing like this, I'm going to be wrong there.
93:37Like Mendoza is not coming anytime soon. No, the Raiders are three and one and their only loss is by three points to the Chiefs.
93:45So yeah, I mean, we are weeks and weeks away from Mendoza even being a conversation.
93:51I think right now we'll see on the ankle thing that Evan mentioned with Ashton Gentty didn't strike me as anything serious,
93:58but regardless, Gentty's role is so good. 31 routes in this game for Ashton Gentty, five routes for Mike Washington.
94:05Chargers. Well, the latest Chargers loss comes at Seattle.
94:08They actually scored 23 points here. I mean, they didn't roll over after getting down 26 at half, but Chargers are 0-4.
94:15McConkie aggravated his foot injury. Joe Ault left early.
94:18Derwin James didn't play. I mean, it's hard to even find the light at the end of the tunnel here for the Chargers.
94:26Evan, any thoughts on their latest loss, this one in Seattle?
94:30Yeah, I mean, I guess they showed some heart this past week by rallying back a little bit.
94:36I think they wound up pushing on the spread.
94:39I think the spread was 7 and they pushed.
94:42Yeah, sounds right. I got a text from somebody during the game like, oh man, you nailed it on the Seahawks cover.
94:49This was such an easy win. And then they came back and pushed.
94:54So the guy didn't win any money. I don't even know that I was on that bet.
94:59But yeah, I mean, it's just disaster area. Even despite the fact that they showed heart or whatever, like Joe Ault got hurt.
95:07Rayshon Slater has a high ankle sprain. It's an absolute disaster.
95:11And they have Denver coming up, again, without the starting two cornerbacks.
95:15But I don't know how you could feel comfortable about anyone.
95:19Even like, and I know that Quentin Johnson sucks, all right?
95:22I get it. But he has like the highest ADOT that he's had since his rookie year this year.
95:29They're just heaving him the ball downfield. And we know that that's not how Quentin Johnson wins.
95:35I thought that there was maybe a chance that if they got him the ball on the move, instead of having, you
95:42know, making him win 50-50, it's just everything is going wrong.
95:46Everything is going wrong for the Chargers from the coaching.
95:49I don't think Mike McDaniel is going to last the season.
95:53Did you see after this, yes, the press conference with Jim Harbaugh?
95:57I mean, that was not a vote of confidence in Mike McDaniel whatsoever.
96:01I think they might all get fired. I mean, people want my comment because Mike McDaniel is my brother.
96:08And I am going to say he has done a bad job, even though he's my brother.
96:13And I still think he will be a good schemer coach in the NFL.
96:18He has done a bad job. As Evan mentioned, Quentin Johnson's best skill to me, or only skill really, is yards after catch.
96:26He has not put Quentin Johnson in the position to get yards after catch at all.
96:31Kurt Warner, who I think is like awesome at breaking down quarterback stuff.
96:36I know Evan agrees also. Kurt Warner had this quote that stuck with me.
96:41He said, this was on Twitter. He said, the tape is leaving me befuddled conceptually.
96:46It almost feels like the Chargers are trying things because Justin Herbert is such a freak and they think he can do things others can't.
96:54But it makes little sense. So many concepts left me uncomfortable for Herbert while watching the tape.
97:00I mean, I'm no tape bro, but it's hard for me to disagree.
97:04It has been so, so, so bad. Now, with Ladd McConkie out, Trey Harris and QJ are going to have decent projections.
97:12We're going to have to talk about these guys because they're going to be cheap and there's probably going to be no
97:19Ladd McConkie after he aggravated his foot injury. We'll talk more about that on Friday.
97:24Last note for me, they have gone to full three-man committee at the running back position.
97:30Keaton Mitchell played a ton here. Keaton Mitchell out-carried Amar and Hampton 10-9.
97:34Khamenei Vidal got five carries and three targets. I mean, Vidal played 25 snaps, basically the same as Mitchell and Hampton.
97:41So, three-man committee on a bad team here. It's tough.
97:44Tough clicks. Let's go to the Dolphins. This was the first game without Devon Achan and it was a difficult spot.
97:52You know, they were playing at Minnesota. Dolphins stay competitive, lose 15-10, fall to 0-4.
97:57Malik Willis just 85 passing yards in this game.
98:00I mean, he only got 17 pass attempts off.
98:03It only ran the ball two times. Dolphins, we talked about the Jets only running 32 plays.
98:08The Dolphins play so slow. They only ran 37 plays in this game.
98:13Evan, what do you think of Dolphins' performance without Achan on Sunday?
98:17I think that the only thing worth discussing is that Ollie Gordon had nine carries for 100 yards and a touchdown.
98:24And, you know, over half of that came on one run where I thought he looked slow, by the way.
98:31I mean, he got caught from behind by, like, multiple Vikings defenders.
98:35And, again, they only ran 37 plays and they play slow and they're not going to be able to maintain drives.
98:42Like, people were taking big-time victory laps on Ollie Gordon.
98:45I guess there was some sort of a waiver-wire debate.
98:49Oh, it could be Jalen Wright, too. You know, I don't know that this is going to be sustainable.
98:55I would bet heavily against this being sustainable for Ollie Gordon based on the way the Dolphins play and based on the talent level of Ollie Gordon.
99:04He did win the Doak Walker Award. And this was a really nice performance.
99:09But I wouldn't be going into any weeks, except for the weeks where there's six teams on by.
99:15You don't know what to do. Hoping that Ollie Gordon falls into the end zone is going to be your best bet with him.
99:23He wasn't even that wide from Jalen Wright in terms of usage.
99:27Snaps were Gordon 22, Wright 12. Opportunities were Gordon 11, Wright 5.
99:31So, yeah, totally agree on Ollie Gordon. Patriots. Oh, by the way, just last thing on Dolphins.
99:37Chris Bell had like a weird play where he stepped out of bounds.
99:41That would have changed the game. They might have won that game if Chris Bell didn't step out of bounds on that play.
99:49So, still, like when the Dolphins get this ship righted, I want to be there for Chris Bell.
99:55Like he looks like a player, especially considering he's so soon off of his ACL tear.
100:01Patriots. Much needed win for the Patriots. They go to Buffalo, get pull off the upset 29-26.
100:06Did it without A.J. Brown. They did it on one of the most insane late touchdown catches you will ever see from Efton Chisholm.
100:15Absolutely. Especially considering like the context of the game, when it was, what the score was.
100:20One of the wildest catches I've ever seen. Evan, what do you think of?
100:25Patriots win over the Bills. It was just a game that Drake May really, really needed.
100:30I think, you know, we'd been talking about it had been like six, seven, eight games where Drake May just, we hadn't
100:37seen him play well in a really long time.
100:41I'm not even sure that he played that well.
100:44I mean, he still made a bunch of mistakes.
100:47And he got the Efton Chisholm crazy catch. And the Romeo, Romeo Dobbs had a one-handed catch as well.
100:53So, I mean, he got some good fortune from his past catchers.
100:57I don't know if any of that is sustainable.
101:00Chisholm's like a practice squad guy. And Romeo Dobbs is like, I don't even know.
101:05Is Romeo Dobbs good? I mean, we've been trying to figure this out for years.
101:10You know, I kind of think he's not. But, I mean, look, the reports have been fairly positive, I think, recently on A.J.
101:18Brown that he might be ready to go at least one or two weeks after he is eligible to return from IR.
101:25He went on in week one. That's good news.
101:29I do think it's really nice that Drake May got back to running in this game.
101:34Eight runs for 54 yards. You know, some of these dual-threat quarterbacks, I remember Andrew Luck used to talk about this.
101:41Cam Newton would talk about this. Get me running in the game.
101:45It gets me more in tune to the game.
101:48You know, it will keep the defense on their heels a little bit because they got to worry about me running.
101:55Like, I think that that's a good thing. You want to run Drake May at least a little bit every single game
102:03to make sure the defense is aware of that threat.
102:06Agreed. Only on a note for me on Patriots was the running back situation.
102:11So, you know, pretty even split technically. However, if you dig into the split, Ramondre is getting so much more of the high-value stuff.
102:19Just like Kyron versus Corum type stuff. Ramondre 24 routes.
102:22Trevion Henderson 12. Ramondre also got a goal line carry here.
102:26And they do not use Trevion Henderson down there much at all.
102:30So even though we had the fumble issues for Ramondre, it's an even split.
102:35Ramondre is still clearly ahead from a fantasy perspective.
102:38Jets. I mean, Jets went to Chicago. They lost 23-12.
102:41It wasn't that close. I mean, they just didn't have the ball.
102:45At halftime, Bears ran 49 plays. Jets ran 16.
102:48Jets, 32 plays. One of the fewest ever. They had seven first downs all day.
102:53So, terrible day all around for the Jets. Evan, what do you think of their performance in Chicago?
102:59Yeah, it was a huge step back for the Jets.
103:03But it was mostly because the Jets just could not stop the Bears running game.
103:08So there are a bunch of stats that are coming out of this game because it was such an historically lopsided.
103:15You know, everybody's like, oh, the Bears had more first downs than the Jets had offensive plays in this game.
103:22To me, the craziest stat that came out of this game was that the Jets possessed the ball for 45 seconds in the fourth quarter.
103:30That means that the Bears had the ball for 14 minutes and 15 seconds in the fourth quarter alone.
103:37But yeah, I mean, that's the tale of the tape right there is that the Jets just did not have the ball, period.
103:44I know people are frustrated with the Kenyan Sadiq airball.
103:48He only ran 12 routes. Gino only dropped back 18 times.
103:52I thought it was encouraging that on 18 dropbacks, Sadiq got targeted four times.
103:56I know he airballed, but still, I still think Sadiq is a good asset.
104:01The other thing for me on Jets was Braylon Allen.
104:04I mean, I thought for sure they would mix in Isaiah Davis with Brees Hall out.
104:10They gave Braylon Allen 32 snaps. Isaiah Davis, two.
104:13Through four games this season, Braylon has now played 114 snaps.
104:17Isaiah Davis has played a grand total of two.
104:20So, I mean, elite, like best you can find usage for Braylon Allen here while Brees Hall is out.
104:26Brees Hall is still considered week to week as far as I know with his quad injury.
104:32Yeah, we're playing fantasy football. We always have to consider context.
104:35You have to just wipe this game from your mind when you are considering starting Garrett Wilson or Braylon Allen.
104:42Braylon Allen actually had a nice game. Or Kenyan Sadiq going forward because this is a game that you just wipe from your mind.
104:50Steelers. It was a frustrating Thursday night for the Steelers in Cleveland.
104:54Aaron Rodgers seemed like he was on extra tilt all night.
104:58He was like barking at Mike McCarthy. I thought Rodgers, uncharacteristic for him, was holding the ball way too long.
105:05Took a ton of hits and sacks. They did get hot late with some nice plays to DK Metcalf.
105:11But not enough as they lose to the Browns.
105:14Evan, what do you think of? Steelers being last Thursday.
105:18I mean, the big stories were, yeah, DK Metcalf finally having a good game and capitalizing on that, you know, mean regression
105:25that you were betting on, you know, from like the by Leone model.
105:30And it wasn't a good matchup either. I mean, Denzel Ward, you know, it wasn't a great matchup on paper, but DK
105:37Metcalf still got there and had his first big game of the season.
105:41And we saw that he actually can catch the football because that was not evident in the first three games.
105:48And then Jalen Warren getting another full workload, 20 touches.
105:52And then, you know, we got to talk about is Rico Dowdle coming back.
105:56I think that he probably will be back in week six.
106:00I'm sorry, in week five against the Jets. But I also think that Jalen Warren is like way better than Rico Dowdle.
106:07So I don't know. We'll see how that works out.
106:11But I know they're calling it a one-two punch right now.
106:15Mike McCarthy called it a one-two punch. To me, Jalen Warren should just be the main guy.
106:20Yeah, a couple good matchups coming up for the Steelers.
106:24They're home versus the Colts next and then at the Bucs and then home against the Saints.
106:29Jalen Warren consistently gets more than what's blocked. And he has carried a huge role with Rico Dowdle out.
106:3694% of the snaps with Rico Dowdle out for Jalen Warren.
106:40I hope, like Silva said, like I hope this shows the Steelers and anyone else that Jalen Warren could be an awesome workhorse.
106:47But as Silva said, I don't think they're going to do it.
106:51I think once Rico Dowdle is cleared, they're going to reduce Jalen Warren's role, which sucks because he is, I mean, I
106:59think he can be an awesome feature back in the NFL.
107:03And he's shown that the last two weeks. Last note for me on the Steelers.
107:08This Darnell Washington stuff in the red zone, I mean, biggest plays of the game.
107:13And it's Darnell Washington in the game over Friermuth.
107:16It's Darnell Washington as the first read, as like the only read, three straight targets in the end zone.
107:22Then Friermuth comes in on fourth down and gets the touchdown.
107:26Routes ended up Friermuth 35, D-Wash 24 on 45 Rodgers dropbacks.
107:30But yeah, I mean, they clearly have a plan for Darnell Washington around the goal line.
107:35Last one we're going to do here today is the Tennessee Titans.
107:39Titans lose in Baltimore. Oh, they're now 0-4. But for the first time I can remember in a long time, Evan, an
107:46actual bright spot to talk about on the Titans.
107:49And Carnell Tate, with the breakout game of his NFL career, nine catches, 145 yards while dominating targets.
107:56He saw 12 targets for a 39% share from Cam Ward.
107:59Exciting, I think, if you're a Titans fan or a Carnell Tate backer.
108:04Evan, what do you think of that and the Titans game?
108:07Yeah, and I think that Cam Ward actually played decent in this game.
108:12We're looking for any signs of positivity. You know, the past couple shows, when we got to Tennessee, I was like, yep, I'm done.
108:20You know, I wasn't like packing it in because I was, you know, tired of talking.
108:25I just didn't want to talk about the Titans because there was really nothing to talk about.
108:31But yeah, Carnell Tate, he looked like the number four pick in the draft.
108:36Cam Ward didn't quite look like the number one pick in the draft.
108:40But, you know, some signs of positivity here that he can get the ball to Carnell Tate.
108:46Carnell Tate had a good game the previous game, actually, too.
108:50He just didn't put up huge numbers. I think he was five for 63.
108:54But yeah, we're seeing it that Carnell Tate was potentially worth that number four overall pick and that Cam Ward is at
109:02least capable of getting the ball to him. This is the second straight game.
109:07I mean, against the Giants, I thought Carnell Tate played decently also.
109:11Six catches, 58 yards on a 25% target share there.
109:14So yeah, exciting for Carnell Tate to even keep this going.
109:18Two other small notes for me on Titans. Calvin Ridley ran 17 routes.
109:22Elik Iominoor ran 22 routes. I love that, man.
109:25Like, let the kid play. I think Iominoor is a player.
109:29We know we have in Cal Ridley. It's not very much.
109:33So I like that for the Titans. Last note, Tony Pollard's name was in that Schefter report for trade deadline.
109:39If that happens, they will go with Spears and probably some Nick Singleton also as their running backs if they end up moving Tony Pollard at the deadline.
109:49Calvin Ridley should also be in that trade group.
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