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1 hr 6 min
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Aug 14, 2026
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Fri, August 14, 2026
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Marvin Harrison Jr.Jameson WilliamsMichael WilsonMike EvansAlec PierceBrian Thomas Jr.Bucky IrvingD'Andre SwiftEmeka EgbukaGeorge KittleJakobi MeyersJeremiyah LoveKenneth GainwellKyler Murray
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Alec Pierce
NegativeValue52:27
The source ranks Alec Pierce at WR31, noting that his massive new contract with the Colts suggests the team intends to feature him more, yet his historical production (never finishing better than 48th in targets) makes him difficult to value. The source compares his potential 2026 outlook to an 'old school' Christian Watson, characterized by extreme weekly volatility.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
NegativeValue44:11
Brian Thomas Jr. is ranked 40th by the source, positioned back-to-back with Parker Washington. The decision between the two depends on whether a fantasy manager is prioritizing upside or a safer floor for their roster build.
Insight pageBucky Irving
NegativeValue23:11
Bucky Irving is a difficult player to rank, currently sitting between RB19 and RB26. While he has talent and potential in the passing game, his poor rushing efficiency last year and the presence of Kenneth Gainwell and goal-line specialist Sean Tucker cap his ceiling as a borderline RB2/flex option.
Insight pageD'Andre Swift
PositiveUsage62:47
Courtney Cronin reports that D'Andre Swift has been the most consistent player for the Bears throughout training camp, leading the source to project him as a reliable, albeit 'boring,' RB2 for fantasy managers all season.
Insight pageEmeka Egbuka
PositiveBreakout44:58
The source highlights Emeka Egbuka as a player with a higher ceiling than Nico Collins, noting that Egbuka had four games with 20+ fantasy points last year, which was more than any other rookie wide receiver. The source suggests Egbuka's range of outcomes is wider, making him a more difficult player to rank but one with significant upside.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
PositiveValue49:26
George Kittle is viewed as a value because he is being drafted lower than at any point since his rookie season. Despite an Achilles tear in the playoffs, he is attacking rehab and expected to play a legitimate role in Week 1. The source prefers Kittle over Mike Evans given their similar draft costs.
Insight pageJakobi Meyers
NegativeValue44:11
Ranked 41st, Jacoby Meyers is described as a solid, underrated player, but the source notes his ceiling is limited, having finished between 19th and 32nd in fantasy points for five consecutive seasons.
Insight pageJameson Williams
NegativeProjection40:06
The source highlights that Jameson Williams has never recorded a game over 27 fantasy points, noting his career-high is 26.9. Despite his reputation as a high-ceiling player, he is currently being outperformed in terms of fantasy production by players like Wan'Dale Robinson, Michael Pittman Jr., Mack Hollins, and Nick Westbrook-Ikhine.
Insight pageNegativeUsage61:47
The source notes that Jamison Williams' production is heavily tied to Sam LaPorta's availability; Williams averaged 10.9 fantasy points per game when LaPorta was active (weeks 1-10) but jumped to WR14 in points per game after LaPorta's injury (week 11 onwards). The source views Williams as a volatile 'boom-bust' player who can win weeks but also produce zeros.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
PositiveUsage8:22
After a slow start in preseason, Jeremiah Love looked exceptional with 11 carries for 58 yards and three catches for 14 yards. He started the game and looked the part of an intimidating running back, leading Mike Clay to feel even stronger about his positive outlook on Love for the upcoming season.
Insight pageKenneth Gainwell
PositiveRole24:14
The source identifies Kenneth Gainwell as a highly useful role player in the NFL who will be a significant part of the passing game for Tampa Bay, potentially limiting Bucky Irving's fantasy upside.
Insight pageKyler Murray
NegativeProjection52:28
Kyler Murray is a difficult player to rank because while he has a history of top-12 fantasy finishes, he is now in a new system with Kevin O'Connell. There is uncertainty regarding whether he will maintain his rushing upside or be forced into a pocket-passer role. Additionally, there is a risk that the Vikings could pivot to J.J. McCarthy late in the season if they are out of contention.
Insight pageMarvin Harrison Jr.
PositiveProjection31:51
Marvin Harrison Jr. is trending up in rankings after outperforming Michael Wilson in all four games they played together with Jacoby Brissett last season. He showed effectiveness with 12.9+ fantasy points in three of those four games.
Insight pagePositiveProjection33:17
The source notes that Marvin Harrison Jr. outscored Michael Wilson in all four games they played together with Jacoby Brissett, with Harrison scoring 12.9+ fantasy points in three of those four contests. The source ranks Harrison at WR32, noting he is the preferred option over Wilson despite the team's new, less pass-heavy offensive system and potential late-season quarterback change to Carson Beck.
Insight pageNegativeValue61:57
The source indicates a preference for Rome Odunze over Marvin Harrison Jr. when asked to choose between the two rookie wide receivers.
Insight pageMichael Wilson
NegativeProjection32:16
Michael Wilson's fantasy outlook is dampened by his performance splits with Marvin Harrison Jr.; Wilson failed to reach 10 fantasy points in any of the four games they played together with Jacoby Brissett last season.
Insight pageNegativeProjection33:26
Michael Wilson is ranked at WR39 by the source, who notes that while Wilson has looked like the better player at times, he was outscored by Marvin Harrison Jr. in all four games they played together with Jacoby Brissett. The source believes the 'cat's out of the bag' on Wilson's potential but prefers Harrison in the current Cardinals offensive system.
Insight pageMike Evans
NegativeBust50:29
The source is low on Mike Evans, citing concerns about his age (turning 33), declining yards-after-catch efficiency (4.4 last year vs. 6.9 career average), and the difficulty of wide receivers over 33 maintaining production unless they are slot-focused. The source expects touchdown-dependent volatility rather than consistency.
Insight pagePositiveValue59:51
The source notes that Mike Evans is currently lower in their draft room rankings compared to general ADP, but suggests that if fantasy managers value him higher, they should take advantage of the discrepancy rather than complaining about the ADP.
Insight pageMike Washington Jr.
PositiveSleeper10:18
Mike Washington Jr. is a notable insurance running back to target late in drafts. Following a 53-yard run in preseason, there is optimism he could crack flex territory if something happens to Ashton Gentry, making him a better stash than last year's backup options.
Insight pageNico Collins
NegativeValue37:27
The source expresses skepticism regarding Nico Collins' current ADP as a top-10 wide receiver, citing concerns about CJ Stroud's development, the Texans' offensive line, and Collins' injury history (having spent time on IR in three of his five seasons). The source ranks him lower than consensus, noting that his weekly production was volatile last year and that he is difficult to trust as a locked-in WR1.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveValue43:58
The source identifies Parker Washington as a preferred target among Jaguars wide receivers, ranking him 36th. He demonstrated high-end production down the stretch last season with four straight games of 9+ targets and 19+ fantasy points. The source views him as the safest play with the highest ceiling in that group.
Insight pagePatrick Mahomes
NegativeProjection40:56
The source is low on Patrick Mahomes, ranking him 15th, due to concerns about his rushing output following a major knee injury. Last year, 25.3% of his fantasy points came from rushing, but the source expects that to decline significantly. While he remains an exceptional passer, his reliance on rushing last year was an outlier compared to his previous six seasons.
Insight pageRhamondre Stevenson
NegativeRole46:26
The source expects Rhamondre Stevenson to remain the lead back for the Patriots, projecting him for roughly 58% of snaps compared to Henderson's 40%. While Stevenson has earned coaching staff trust, the source notes he has only one career top-20 fantasy season and limited volume in games where both backs were active.
Insight pageRome Odunze
PositiveBreakout61:57
The source expresses a strong preference for Rome Odunze over Marvin Harrison Jr., maintaining their support for the Bears wide receiver throughout the week.
Insight pageSam LaPorta
PositiveUsage62:18
The source suggests moving Sam LaPorta up in rankings, noting that the addition of Drew Petzing to the Lions' offense could benefit the tight end position, similar to his success with Trey McBride. The source acknowledges that LaPorta's back injury last year impacted his production and that his return to the field will likely impact Jamison Williams' target share.
Insight pageSean Tucker
PositiveRole26:43
Sean Tucker is expected to remain the clear-cut goal-line back for Tampa Bay inside the five-yard line, a role he held consistently down the stretch last season.
Insight pageTravis Hunter
NegativeSleeper44:17
Travis Hunter is considered a fine late-round flyer at his 16th-round ADP. The source suggests he is likely better suited for Best Ball formats, pending clarity on his offensive snap count.
Insight pageTreVeyon Henderson
PositiveBreakout45:55
Despite concerns about Rhamondre Stevenson's role and fumbles, the source ranks TreVeyon Henderson higher than Stevenson due to his explosive upside. While Henderson had monster games last season (RB4, RB3, RB3 finishes), the source acknowledges he is currently too expensive in drafts and faces a low probability of usurping Stevenson as the primary starter immediately.
Insight pageTyler Allgeier
NegativeRole8:48
The source is monitoring Tyler Allgeier's role, noting that he left the game before Jeremiah Love but will still have a role in the offense, particularly regarding goal-line work and total carries.
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1:01to rank in fantasy Which is so much fun Because a lot of this Is just feelings related, right?
1:07I'm trying to figure out Where I'm at on a lot of these guys You guys I'm sure Will have some input
1:13Based on Some of the players that I picked Trust me We're going to have some fun with this A little bit
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1:32our hardest players to rank Is that There is a process That leads us to every ranking we do Nothing is done
1:38haphazardly Yep There are some times Where the process is very clear Right?
1:42Josh Allen's been the highest scoring Quarterback in four of the past six seasons In the other two He was the second
1:48highest scoring quarterback Like there's lots of reasons To land on Josh Allen as QB1 Then there are other times Where you're
1:54going through your rankings And you're like Wait That's my RB16 And I have them ahead of those three players What exactly
2:01was I thinking at the time Yes And that's I think In some ways The crux of Of how fantasy football is
2:07won Generally speaking It's not the person Who Who drafts Bijon Robinson Number one That's not the difference Between you winning And losing your league Right?
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4:25I know it's in my head It's your H hand Where's our jar You got your mistake jar You're right Alright Let's
4:32really quickly Before we talk about Hardest players to rank We did get a little bit Of football last night guys Did
4:38anything stand out To you when you were Watching preseason football The Lions are winning The Super Bowl Let's just call What
4:44it is Thank you Where do you guys Want to start Mike You take it away Mike What do you want There's
4:50a few things I mean we talked A little before the show About a couple guys Who stood out And I think
4:57Today we're gonna Talk about guys Who are hard to rank Well it's a lot easier To draft Jeremiah Love After what
5:03we saw Last night My guy this year Looked exceptional You I think Texted us right after His what First carrier Yes
5:09Second carrier Like two carries For five yards Let me get the exact text Bust I moved him down Into the 70s
5:16In my rankings But then he bounced Back with a huge game Yeah He looked fantastic 11 carries 58 yards Had a
5:22very acrobatic Play in that game Also had three catches For 14 yards There was a lot of Tyler Algier mixed in
5:28there Algier left the game first But Jeremiah Love Did start the game And he looked the part He just looks very
5:34Intimidating as a running back And I I gotta be honest I just feel even stronger About my Jeremiah Love Take after
5:41last night I'm gonna have him On a substantial Number of teams this year After two carriers For five yards I texted
5:47Mike and Daniel You can't spell Mike Clay Without the Jeremiah Love Is a BUST All caps Yeah he did look good
5:53Last night A lot of people On the internet Are saying He reminds them Of Adrian Peterson Running He's not as As
5:59powerful As Adrian Peterson Was but Peterson You know On the short list For most powerful Runners the league Has ever seen
6:06But he did look good Last night I would say In the other game And I'm not Everything has to be Taken
6:12with a block Of salt Not a grain of salt Other side of that game We saw a 53 yard run From
6:18Mike Washington Junior The backup running back For the Raiders A few things here First of all I like the player Coming
6:25out He cracked my top 100 In the draft I think he won The early fourth To the Raiders So a decent
6:31investment In a running back Not a gigantic investment But a decent investment In a running back Clint Kubiak did say When
6:37he took the job He wants to be A little more judicious About the workload For Ashton Gentty Even if Mike Washington Jr.
6:44Doesn't play A significant role When Gentty is Off the field I do He does not take Gentty off the field That
6:50much this year I think two things Are important here One Just good to know The insurance policy name And it's good
6:56to know That this guy can play This is different Than last year Whereas Ashton Gentty Obviously played a lot It was
7:03a disaster season But Raheem Mostert Was the backup Like if something Happened to Ashton Gentty We were not going to have
7:09Raheem Mostert Anywhere near Our top 10 or 20 Of running backs In a given week If something happens To Ashton Gentty
7:15This year Right now I do think There is more optimism That Mike Washington Could at least crack The flex territory Than
7:21he could Than you would say About guys last year Super fair Agreed I think that's super fair Yeah like him There's
7:28that list of guys Late in your draft You should be looking at In terms of insurance Running backs And he's one
7:34of the Headliners on that list As far as I'm concerned I'm not talking about guys You have to take Like Blake
7:40Corum In the middle rounds In like round 9 I'm talking about Those late round flyers That's where you should Be looking
7:47for Insurance backs And that doesn't mean I took Gentty I have to take Washington It means you can take These guys
7:53no matter what Because you're Look if your opponent Has Gentty And he gets hurt And you have Washington On your bench
7:59You just got better And he got worse I mean It's double the fun So no doubt Those guys He's definitely on
8:05that list Still monitoring Tyler Algier Like there's going to be a role Yeah no doubt They were playing a lot We'll
8:12just see exactly How much of that role Manifests itself In goal line work Yep And just like sheer number Of carries
8:18Yeah and don't get too worried About there's going to be Another back involved That's the case for Every single backfield Like
8:24in Philly Tank Bigsby's going to Have a role this year It's the case Even in San Francisco Christian McCaffrey Might handle
8:3155% of the carries And he's still going to Be Outstanding Like that's normal For him to be in that range Yes
8:37What percentage of the carries How many 55% Okay thank you Should have said 56 That was Yeah What are you doing
8:43It's preseason for me too I apologize I mean but honestly This is When I'm watching Like this early preseason action I'm
8:49clearly just looking for names That I'm going to tuck away For the back of my brain For the end of the
8:56draft Dejan Stribling was one of those guys Is he the only healthy Wide receiver for the 49ers right now There's two
9:02ways to look at it For Dejan Stribling last night On the one hand He was playing with exclusively backups Yep Right
9:08I mean Curtis Rourke And Adrian Martinez Were the two quarterbacks That were playing I covered Adrian Martinez When I covered the
9:14UFL A couple of years ago When he was the MVP Of that league Let's go Alright And then So that would
9:21be Like an indication That if he was that close To cracking the starting lineup Early in the year He would not
9:27have been Playing last night Right The other side of it Is he had seven catches Last night Uh huh They were
9:33chucking that ball All over the yard Carnotate who The Titans offense Left something to be desired Last night Yeah Clearly Carnotate
9:40is better Than Dejan Stribling I'm just saying It's fun When you look at these two rookies We don't know that for
9:46sure But we'll see But yeah Dejan Stribling A name to monitor Later Definitely I think his ADP Is going to start
9:52to Climb up a little bit Yeah Yeah I think you're right Long ways to go though In preseason We have two
9:58more games I'd imagine Some of these teams That rested starters Last night Will play their guys A bit In the next
10:05two games I don't think so So perhaps we do see Dejan Stribling Catching passes from Brock Purdy Or even Mac Jones
10:11Yeah The thing to keep an eye on Is if they start to Like you usually Could get a good idea Of
10:17a team's offensive core Based on that whole group Didn't play And if Stribling If like Mike Evans Debo Samuel And Stribling
10:24And George Kittle And Christian McCaffrey And Brock Purdy Are the group that are Not playing Yeah Probably a good sign He's
10:30going to have A pretty substantial role And that was the case Actually another name We can mention really quickly Here is
10:36if you look at The Chargers tight ends Charlie Kolar And David Njoku Did not play But Ronda Gadsden Was pretty busy
10:42In that game Signal that perhaps He's the third tight end And I think they'll use A lot of 12 personnel Who
10:49rotate in But I moved When they got Njoku And started hyping up Kolar as a good blocker I moved him way
10:55down Our tight end rankings And I think he's I mean I wouldn't draft him I don't think Gadsden's Anywhere close to
11:01the fantasy radar Which is too bad Because last year He had a little stretch Where he gave us Some nice fantasy
11:08value In the middle of the season Yeah but they didn't have Other pass catching options The other guys there Like Tyler
11:14Conklin And Will Disley Were kind of on the way out So yeah I mean Maybe down the road He gets his
11:20run blocking together And picks it up But right now I don't think he is Anywhere close to fantasy relevance If you
11:26are watching right now That's not Davis Mills In the headshot right there But Davis Mills Did play meaningful snaps For the
11:33Texans last night Graham Mertz Their third string quarterback Tore his ACL It's believed According to Adam Schefter So Or it's feared
11:39At least at this moment So Davis Mills will see A lot of action During the preseason I think But I You
11:45know like It's always fun To have preseason football back You don't want to Overthink things too much You're just monitoring A
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13:13With the Seattle Seahawks On HBO Max Alright let's talk about Our hardest players To rank My friends We each brought Four
13:19names to the table We're going to do A little bit of A round robin here Field why not start With you
13:26in this one Give me your first name Alright we haven't At least that I can recall Talked about this player These
13:32aren't ordered In like actually Hardest to rank To least hardest rank It's just all four names Four names And I tried
13:38to get Into some players At least in a couple of cases That I don't think We spent much time on So
13:45far Okay Amongst qualified There were 48 qualified Rushers last year Meeting a certain Threshold of Rushing attempts Okay One of them
13:51averaged 3.4 yards per carry It was dead last Of those 48 Qualified rushers So the worst rusher On a per carry
13:57basis Yep Still ranks anywhere From RB19 To RB26 In everybody On ESPN's Rankings Do you guys Have an idea Of who
14:03this player Might be Yes Okay Go for it I just know who it is So I'm cheating Okay Who is it
14:10Bucky Irving Bucky Irving So here's the Two years ago Bucky Irving Looked like he was Going to become A vital piece
14:16Of Tampa's offense For years to come Yep During his rookie season He eats away At Rashad White's workload He's absolutely crushing
14:22it He's rushing efficiently He's a factor In the passing game Which he was By the way In college As well Last
14:29season Bucky Irving Has a prolonged stretch In which he is Away from the team Due to a health Situation that frankly
14:35We didn't know That much about And I don't know That much more about it At this point So I'm going to
14:41Leave that to be Right now On paper He might be the team's Lead rusher And running back But they also signed
14:47To me One of the most Useful role players And maybe more than A role player In the NFL Which is Kenny
14:54Gainwell So on the one hand If he is the leading rusher And he gets a decent Amount of work In the
15:00passing game I do believe Bucky Irving Still has enough talent To pay off As a low end RB2 On the other
15:06hand Based off of his Rushing efficiency Last year And the fact that Kenneth Gainwell Is going to be A big part
15:13Of the passing game This year It's like Is Bucky Irving Going to end up Sort of drifting down Into the RB
15:19dead zone Where you're playing him Bucky Irving Is definitively on So I just kind of Split the atom In between And
15:25I landed at RB21 Yeah it's a tricky one I think he should be Ideally he's like A better Jalen Warren Kind
15:31of in that Same situation Where Kenneth Gainwell Same role Going from Pittsburgh To Tampa Bay But you're hoping That you get
15:38A more efficient Jalen Warren In this Tampa Bay Offense Which frankly Could be a pretty good Offense with Baker If he's
15:44healthy It should be A pretty good offense So IFM at 21 I think that in terms Of ranking him This is
15:50probably About his ceiling I mean you could Probably put him A couple spots higher But with Gainwell There it's hard To
15:57imagine him Going much higher And by the way It's not just Gainwell If you look at The second half Of last
16:03season When Irving came back And again He might not have Been 100% healthy But Irving lost His goal line role Like
16:09he was unlucky In the touchdown department But Sean Tucker Was their very clear cut Goal line back He's still there They
16:15tendered him As a restrictor Free agent He's back on the roster I fully expect When they're inside The five Sean Tucker
16:22Is still going to be On the field Not Gainwell Not Bucky Irving And that's That's a limitation To the ceiling Of
16:28both of those Backs So as far as I'm concerned It's still Irving The only reason It's a little tricky To rank
16:34him Is should he be lower Because if it's Mark Gainwell Mark Tucker Perhaps this is too high To put him 21
16:40But I still think When the dust settles He's going to be Kind of just that fine Like you said Flex option
16:47Borderline RB2 But that's probably The extent of it To your point On the goal to go work Bucky Irving And I
16:53know that He did not play A full season last year So you have to Take that into account But he was
16:5927th In total carries Last year He was tied for 48th In goal to go carries There were other players On his
17:06own roster Two of them Specifically Rashad White And of course Sean Tucker That had more Sean Tucker Had 13 goal to
17:12go carries Rashad White had 9 I know that goal to go Is not the same As like first and goal From
17:18the one But I think First and goal From the one The answer is It's going to be Sean Tucker Every single
17:24time It was Tucker And by the way That was not the case The first few weeks Of the season When he
17:31was healthy So maybe it changes A little But it was That was their recipe Down the stretch For a long sample
17:37Of games And I don't expect That to change You're saying The one main Takeaway that I heard Mike when you're Saying
17:43that Is maybe You are at least Considering That 21 might be Too high even For Bucky Irving I think it's close
17:50To his ceiling If you leave a draft With Bucky Irving As your RB2 Are you disappointed Do you view him More
17:56as a flex option Or an RB3 And not an RB2 option For your squad in drafts If I'm drafting Bucky Irving
18:02I'm not allowing As my RB2 Yep My RB3 Will probably be My next pick Be very short behind That's funny you
18:08say that Because I'm in a draft Right now An industry draft And I Just the way You know I follow the
18:15board So I went pretty Wide receiver heavy early I got a good RB1 I can't remember Who it was exactly But
18:21I got to the point At the turn And it was coming up to me And it was like I wanted Scadaboo
18:27Or Judkins And they both Just went right before me And the next best Running back Was Bucky Irving And I was
18:34disappointed To do that Next round Came around I took Rico Dowdle Just to get a little bit Another running back As
18:40an on another shot Perfect example Okay Again I think two years ago And we play in a dynasty league together We
18:46play in lots of dynasty leagues So sometimes your brain Gets fixated on these dynasty Like the dynasty value And I was
18:52like Man Bucky Irving Dime me in the rough In dynasty And it doesn't feel that way Right now So Bucky Irving
18:59First player that cracks my list Mike Your next up Alright Next up for me is And I know I have some
19:05agreement On this one This is one of the toughest For sure Across the board Arizona Cardinals Wide receivers Hey Junior Who
19:11kind of touched down Yes he did mention that Good for him By the way What a throw by Brissett It was
19:18beautiful Off balance Just a perfect It was great defense But he just He just got it right in there So we
19:24need that all regular season long But Marvin Harrison And of course Michael Wilson Look Harrison came out A little underwhelmed as
19:30a rookie But still put up decent numbers At eight touchdowns And obviously was injured last year And fell off quite a
19:36bit Michael Wilson Was quiet throughout his whole career And then exploded down the stretch Last season With Jacoby Brissett A quarterback But also With Marvin Harrison Jr.
19:44Not healthy And I did a little digging On some of the splits Late last season And something surprised me More than
19:51I thought I knew Michael Wilson Wasn't quite as good When Harrison was out But did you know And here's the full
19:57screen graphic Did you know That Marvin Harrison Jr.
20:00In four games With Michael Wilson And Jacoby Brissett Four full games He outscored him In all four games And it was
20:06not Frankly It wasn't even close Michael Wilson As you can see On the screen Under ten fantasy points In all four of those games Marvin Harrison Jr.
20:14Had 12.9 plus In three of the four And was pretty effective In those games So I think this is very interesting
20:20Headshot is so menacing I know it's scary Scaring at him Yes That makes me want to Move him up in my
20:26rankings A little bit Did you guys see him this offseason Did you guys see the picture of him This offseason Working
20:33out He does look jacked He does There's a lot of footage Of kind of people Having to Daniel I know Cousin
20:39in over here Copycatting It's a lot Mama Dopp wanted the hair down today So I had to do the hair down
20:45It's so wavy I'm a little upset with her though Because she's trying to get us to Shave her legs Do something
20:51No no no She's not trying to get you Shaved your legs Lacks your legs Lacks your legs Why does she want
20:58us in pain I don't understand I thought she liked us But yeah I mean look It's tricky to sort this out
21:04Because Michael Wilson So far Has looked like the better player Than Marvin Harrison But Like you just saw I mean Harrison
21:10When they played together With Brissette Has actually been The better option So I still have Harrison ahead He's at 32 I
21:17have Wilson Down at 39 I do think the cat's out of the bag A little bit with Michael Wilson But at
21:23the end of the day I'm still going to lean Toward Harrison But this is definitely A tricky dynamic Remember it's a
21:29new Offensive system As well here It's not going to be As pass heavy as last year And At some point this
21:35season Especially if Arizona's eliminated We Probably will get a quarterback Change to Carson Beck So come fantasy playoff time It could
21:42be a big question mark here The Cardinals are slinging That thing collectively So far in preseason By the way Gardner Minshew
21:48Was super accurate last night Yes Marvin Harrison Jr.
21:51Was on my list as well Mike So great flag by you Daniel who do you got They have the most exciting
21:57Quarterback duo in the NFL Jacoby Brissette And Gardner Minshew I mean He's looking good Good in that Hall of Fame game
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22:47start With someone That I have been talking about And that is Nico Collins He made my long list Because Nico Collins
22:53Is being drafted As a wide receiver one He has had back To back To back Seasons As a top 10 Wide
23:00receiver In fantasy points per game But the thing is I'm so nervous Just about CJ Stroud About this offensive line About
23:06the injury history That we've seen That he's had I feel I've said this To you already When you look at Marvin
23:12Harrison Jr He has been injured Every single season Of his career Three of his five seasons He has spent time On
23:19the injured reserve list This is Nico Collins You mean Nico Collins Yes Sorry you said Marvin Harrison Jr I did not
23:25mean to say that I meant Nico Collins And so I Get so uncomfortable Trying to think about If where this guy
23:31Is being drafted right now Nico Collins He's been Coming off the board As about wide receiver 10 So the last of
23:37your Top 10 wide receivers Last of the wide receiver ones And knowing what this offense Could potentially be They have David
23:44Montgomery I'm not sold on CJ Stroud Being the guy That we Everybody thought he was Coming out I don't I think
23:50a lot of us Feel that same way I don't think he's that Great of a quarterback Right now He's got a
23:56long way To still go He's fine He's fine He's fine He was anointed A lot more than fine Coming out But
24:02I get I get nervous Thinking about Nico Collins As someone that I would Roster and draft As my number one Wide
24:09receiver That's the problem for me Is the price I'm paying For him Can I give you Because I agree with Nico
24:15as one of the More interesting And difficult players To rank I think he's being Ranked somewhere around I'm lower on Nico
24:21Than consensus By like three or four spots He's still a really good player The hardest part about him As a true
24:28wide receiver One as a top ten Fantasy wide receiver Despite him finishing there Is I have a harder time With guys
24:34That it's so Unpredictable Week in or week out How much they're going To be featured Like There's just such comfort In
24:40your wide receiver one Getting ten or twelve targets Every single week And I know that's Of course you love Every single
24:46wide receiver That's on your roster To get ten targets a week I do kind of expect My wide receiver one To
24:53be in that Eight to ten range He's elite for a reason And it just felt like Last year with Nico There
24:59was a lot of Conversation about Whether like the lack Of creativity And the way he was Being utilized Within the Houston
25:05Texans Offense was a reason Why his production Was so up and down He had churches Where he got white hot And
25:12there were times In which he would fade For two or three weeks That's really difficult To handle For your roster When
25:18he's your wide receiver one I just wanted to wait And hear you guys out Because I cannot Disagree more Oh amazing
25:24Love him Bring it Mike Yeah I just don't I have him highest I'm at nine Hard guy to rank I think
25:30he files Right in there Like look Relative to wide receiver ones Obviously I have him At the bottom end Of wide
25:37receiver one So if he's your wide receiver one You're not as strong there As other people are But if he's your
25:43two You feel great about that But here's a couple nuggets On him Like he doesn't feel Like a volatile player To
25:49me He's been really good I mean he's cleared A thousand yards In three straight seasons He's scored either Seven or eight
25:56touchdowns In all of those three seasons He's finished top ten In fantasy points per game And top twelve in yards Per
26:02route run All three of those seasons And he was fourth in the NFL In end zone targets last year Did you
26:08hear when I said He spent time on the IR In three of his five seasons Yeah okay So do you think
26:14He's gonna get hurt this year Is that Am he still in his prime I think that there is This is That's
26:21part of the equation Right Is the concern That with the wide receiver I'm drafting Has a greater injury history Than some
26:27of the other Wide receivers I'm drafting around him And the capital that I'm Putting into that player I didn't realize Fields
26:33You have him at fifteen You and I are the only ones Outside the top ten On Nico Collins There are just
26:40There's enough With how good The top of the wide receiver room is That it's tough for me To rank him Because
26:46I think his talent Is clearly a top ten Wide receiver Sure But that offense And his quarterback And some of the
26:52injury stuff Is what gives me A little bit of that pause That pushes him down for me It makes it tough
26:58for me to rank You want a fun board bet That I just know of a player I know for a fact
27:05A player I have ranked higher Than Nico Collins That I know for a fact You have ranked lower Than Nico Collins
27:11Ameca Abuka Okay Just let's do it Why not Why not I'm fine with that Let's get frisky I mean Abuka's ceiling
27:17Might be higher Just because we don't know yet On him But Nico Collins I feel This is why Nico Collins feels
27:24like A tricky one for this If you're thinking Range of outcomes You just said Nico Collins wasn't Tricky to rank No
27:30no That's what I'm saying He's not I'm saying In terms of range Of outcomes For players Abuka's is wider It makes
27:36it harder To rank him Nico Collins It feels like One of the most Narrow range of outcome Players To rank in
27:42fantasy Like he's probably Going to finish Between eighth and Fifteenth Like I don't know I don't think That's a hard Hard
27:49guy to rank You know what could be An interesting board bet To configure one time Is rather than Doing a board
27:55bet That's constructed Around like Points per game Or total fantasy points If at some point We do a comparison Or we
28:01do a board bet Of two players Where it's like I say Ameca Abuka Has more top ten finishes Than Nico Collins
28:07Or something like that Yeah that's tricky Because he had More top tens Than like Tedaro and McMillan Last year But he
28:14also had Way more atrocious games Yeah no I hear you But that obsesely Listen it's a board bet We can qualify
28:20it However we want to But in the meantime I say Ameca Abuka Outscores Nico Collins In fantasy football In 2020 I
28:26say Nico Collins outscores Ameca Abuka In fantasy this year Put it on the board Did you just call him Nico Colonoscopy
28:33Yeah I think he did Never had one of those Alright let's get to You just mentioned Tedaro McMillan Let's be honest
28:39Tedaro McMillan Oh okay That's a good one You just mentioned him Yeah Yeah This is a good one Alright so He
28:45is ESPN's 14th ranked receiver In consensus rankings I'm lowest on him As wide receiver 18 And he finished 16th last year
28:51So I mean Again he played In every game So points per game He was lower But It's just And this goes
28:58back To the conversation We were just having Is that How often was he A top 20 wide receiver In a week
29:04last year The answer is Not all that often The efficiency Wasn't great For a guy He saw 120 targets Last year
29:10How many top 10s Did he have Speaking of the question You just asked Didn't he have That one week Where he
29:17had like 7 for 120 And a touchdown That's the one Yeah That's one He had one top 10 One top 10
29:23So I think we're all Banking on big upside here For Tedaro McMillan And we still haven't Seen it yet As a
29:29matter of fact I remember this stat That applies to him But was driven by Emeka Ibuka He had four games With
29:3520 or more Fantasy points last year Did Ibuka No other rookie Wide receiver Had more than one of those So Emeka
29:42Ibuka Had his one Sorry Had Aaron McMillan Had his one And we're all kind of Expecting and it's Totally fair to
29:48expect A huge jump from him He was the eighth Overall pick in the draft He was my clear cut Wide receiver
29:54One in the draft Process last year Travis Hunter was Unicorn like Christian McCaffrey On top of that There were some real
30:01signs Of promise He won the offensive Rookie of the year Like Tedaro McMillan Is legit I don't have As much confidence
30:07In his quarterback As I do Baker Mayfield For example Throwing the football To Emeka Ibuka And Tedaro McMillan Did have It
30:13just felt like Kind of a little bit Of an up and down Nature To the way In which he was Used
30:19last year Isn't it wild You have the Reigning NFL Offensive rookie Of the year One of the first picks Of the
30:26draft Last year He's top 15 In basically Every category At wide receiver As a rookie And then we're just like We're
30:32still just not Like in Most times If that's all the Information you had You'd be like This guy's The real I
30:38mean this is The top 10 receivers Dynasty second year lead But still we're like Bryce Young We just don't know We're
30:45just not sure If he can get That battery Hey The charge That we need To get that leap So I agree
30:51He is a tricky one Do you know who else Doesn't know whether Bryce Young Is the real deal or not Carolina
30:57Because they haven't Extended him yet Yeah Like I They have time On their side Yeah He's playing on the Fifth year
31:03option This year though And no deal yet As they should do that How many teams Just are like We just have
31:10We feel obligated We have to sign him To a multi-year extension Then the next year It's like You know To being
31:16an example Of like you know There's many examples Of that like Good for them For running the team The right way
31:22Our former colleague Here at ESPN Mark Dominick Used to say I'd rather be a year Too late than a year Too
31:28early to pay A quarterback Because if you have To pay a quarterback A year too late It means the quarterback Has
31:35been so good That you have no choice But to pay him And if your quarterback's Good it means your team Probably
31:41good too Yeah Huge year for Carolina Huge year for For Bryce Young Yes See what he got What he got Mike
31:47Alright next one for me Is a guy who is Injured right now There's been a lot Of kind of Reporting 49er
31:54No No It's a Colt Actually Oh Alec Pierce I just guessed Yeah A lot of A lot of confusing Reports on
32:00What has gone on With his health But according to Chris Ballard He should be ready To go for week one Is
32:06Alec Pierce But he was a tricky Guy to rank Even before The health concerns Because he became One of the highest
32:12Paid wide receivers In the NFL During the offseason They moved on From Michael Pittman Jr.
32:17Did the Colts Alec Pierce says Led all receivers Qualified receivers In yards per catch Yards per target And averages up to
32:23the target Two consecutive seasons But he's yet to finish A season better than Get ready for this 48th in target There
32:3042nd in targets 45th in catches 18th in yards 18th in touchdowns Or 25th In fantasy points Per game And yet He's
32:36one of the Highest paid receivers In the NFL So The question becomes Are we buying into A more evolved Route tree
32:42Something we haven't Seen from him Through four seasons In the NFL And enough target Volume for him To be a guy
32:48We feel is a Consistent Wide receiver To We'll say In fantasy football I have him at 31 right now He might
32:55be a couple Spots higher If he was healthier But It's kind of an Interesting move By the Colts To go this
33:01direction And say We believe in him We're going to Pay him a lot of money And we're going to Try to
33:07get something Out of him That we haven't Gotten yet For some reason My answer is no I'm not as high As
33:14a wide receiver 31 Yeah Okay Where do you have him Where are you at I have him at 40 Fields got
33:20him at 42 I mean there's something To be said for the Colts treatment of him Well Here's my question What if
33:26Alec Pierce Had signed a four year 80 million dollar contract Okay I'm just curious Like he got four For what 112
33:32or something Yeah I mean That's still a lot No Four for 80 though Like Jacobi Myers Got three for 60 And
33:39we're not like Yeah we got to push Jacobi Myers I know there's Different circumstances Here but I do feel like Alec
33:45Pierce's Value in fantasy Got a big leap Obviously Michael Pittman Jr.
33:48Was traded And there were Some other moves For the Colts This offseason But the minute That contract Got done We were
33:55all Sort of like Wait Is he better Than we realize What's going on here Like the market Told the Colts That
34:01he was worth Four years And 112 million dollars Did the market Or did his agent Well It also tells me Yeah
34:07But still If they make the decision To trade Michael Pittman Jr.
34:11And then pay Alec Pierce And not Michael Pittman They should be featuring him more Like look Here's the thing If they
34:17continue to use him The same way they have With no changes Why did they Do that I mean it doesn't make
34:23sense You have to Improve his target share So And look He was wide receiver 28 last year So If we're going
34:30to see More volume And a more evolved role For him And a guy that can make Those big plays as well
34:36In an offense By the way That was outstanding Last year When Daniel Jones Was healthy I definitely expect him To finish
34:42in the 20s If he's healthy this year He probably Oh sorry Daniel I know we use the phrase Follow the money
34:48And like you know It tells us stuff sometimes But I think sometimes There are still points At least for me As
34:55just like a General NFL fan Yeah Where I feel like I don't need to justify When I feel like Someone makes
35:01a bad Financial decision By saying Well I should just Follow the money Because they clearly Well it's not the only Analysis
35:07here I mean You're right No no no You're not wrong That's why it makes it Tricky right That does make it
35:13tricky I do not understand This contract I do not understand When they pay him The other wide receivers That are getting
35:20paid This kind of money How much volume Are they seeing On a per game basis And we clearly Don't think that
35:26Because even you've got A wide receiver 31 Yeah So like We're all admitting That with where We're ranking him We don't
35:32understand Why the Colts Signed this guy To the amount Of money That they did Because if it was Any other 30
35:39million dollar A year wide receiver He should be a top 10 guy So all of that I think is For me
35:45That's why this is So difficult Clearly the Colts Do think something But I think They just To me Rather than Try
35:51to justify that I feel like They just made A bad financial decision I just get to I'll see if they did
35:57Throughout the season But I'm more out On Alec Pierce Not the version Not the version Of him that we're Going to
36:04see this year But I think There's a chance That Alec Pierce Has a season That looks kind of Like an old
36:10school Version of Christian Watson Oh You think so Okay Yeah Like there's going to be Some absolutely Gigantic weeks Where it's
36:16like 3 for 109 On a touchdown And then there's Going to be some weeks Where it's like 6 for 62 And
36:23then there's Going to be some weeks Where it's like 1 for 17 You know what 1 for I see That would
36:29shock me 1 for 17 Is the extreme But you know Okay But I just think They're going to Have to But
36:35you know what I see this You want to See him have a Bigger route tree But also like He hasn't been
36:41Practicing Like he's hurt too So I don't know It's a very Fascinating situation Also they don't Have a third An established
36:48Third receiver It's Ashton Dolan Right now He was He didn't play Last night Presumably Because he's Locked into that Role But
36:54That's That's a tricky One Again we're Keeping an eye And Keenan Allen Watch is Definitely strong For the Colts I would
37:00say Keenan Allen Watch baby Let's go All right Let's move along Here All right Who do you got I'm bringing some
37:07Lions to the table What It's tough guys Sometimes it's hard To rank the players Jared Goffy Quarterback one This is not
37:13it No let's talk about Jameson Williams Jamo and Sam Laporta I'll tell you what If Alec Pierce turns Into Jameson Williams
37:19We would all be Excited about that That would be I don't like my I don't like my Christian Watson Analogy anymore
37:25That's all right buddy It's all right So I want to take A quick look at it Okay Because Jamo was Really
37:32good last season Yep Had a bunch of games Where he was a top 20 wide receiver And Sam Laporta We also
37:38have some Question marks on Because we just Added Drew Petzin To this offense We saw how good He was with Trey
37:44McBride And being able to Get the tight end Involved The big question mark Is Sam Laporta Got hurt last year That
37:51was a big thing Coming back from That back injury So I want to Take a look at the splits Weeks one
37:57through ten With Sam Laporta On the field Jamison Williams Averaged 10.9 Fantasy points per game It was wide receiver 40 Four
38:03of those games Over 16.5 fantasy points The other five games All under seven Fantasy points So pretty boom bust When you
38:09look at The wide receiver situation Sam Laporta Was tight at nine Over that stretch For what it's worth 11.9 fantasy points
38:16Per game Then the back end The back injury Happened And then from week 11 on Without Sam Laporta Jamo jumped From
38:22wide receiver 40 in points per game To wide receiver 14 Now we're going to get Sam Laporta Back here for this
38:28season And I think a lot of us Myself included To start the season I was a little too In on Jamo
38:35Not realizing Or not thinking About the idea That with Laporta also Coming back And being a big part Of that He
38:41probably can't Do the same thing That he did before So for me As much as I love Jamison Williams And I
38:47think I was Maybe a little too low On Sam Laporta I have kind of I have kind of No you're good
38:53I've kind of That's a nice shot There of Jack Campbell I like this idea Of being able To maybe bring Jamo
39:00down A little bit more And Laporta Moving up a little more But these two guys I think impact Each other's rankings
39:06Because of how they played When they were on the field With each other I'm curious how you guys Think about it
39:12Good context On the numbers there Of on off splits For Jamo When Sam Laporta Is or isn't available I have reached
39:18A place of comfort With Jamison Williams Have you?
39:21Me too That's how I feel And how I feel is The ranking sort of matters For Jamo On a week to
39:27week basis But it sort of doesn't In the sense that If I draft Jamison Williams I'm acknowledging That he probably Will
39:34win me A handful of weeks During the season Yep And I'll probably have A few weeks During the season Where I'm
39:40like Jamo He had two goose eggs Two zeros Yeah that's just Gonna happen Last year Yep And he still finished 12th
39:46I know And 22nd the year before Over a thousand yards Back to back years I'm with you He might be a
39:52little volatile But at the end of the day The guy is He's been delivering The last couple of years And this
39:59is what we We thought he would do When he was injured And suspended and all that This is why we still
40:05Had hope in him And he's delivering that now I want to ask you guys A real quick trivia question Okay What
40:11do Wondell Robinson Michael Pitt Pittman Jr. Mack Hollins And Nick Westbrook Akine All have in common More touches Wondell Robinson Okay Michael Pittman Jr.
40:18Mack Hollins And Nick Westbrook Akine Sounds like it would be Like a low Yards per catch Sort of number Or low
40:25touchdown Yeah Number Jamo's Career high is 26.9 fantasy points Per game Lower Does all have more Than Nick Westbrook Akine Lower
40:31than Mack Hollins Lower than Michael Pittman Jr. Lower than Wondell Robinson We talk about Jamo as being This huge High ceiling
40:37guy He's never even Had a game Over 27 fantasy points So I love This is me As a Lions fan It
40:44doesn't feel Good to say this But I was a little Surprised when I Looked into it Especially with how Things are
40:50going to Work out Typical Lions Hater Every time Field you're up next My friend I have this player As my quarterback
40:56Nine Tied for the highest Amongst ESPN Rankers And yet I'm still Not sure whether That's anywhere Close to rational The quarterback
41:02Is Patrick Mahomes And the big factor Here is He was one of mine Is What is your Confidence level That Patrick
41:09Mahomes the Passer Is good enough Given the weapons He has around him To be a fantasy Megastar It's not what It
41:15used to be Okay Mike Where do you feel I Yeah I think I think he could Still put up Enormous passing
41:21numbers I mean he was Really good early Last season I know he's Running a lot But So The skill of Patrick
41:28Mahomes Has not changed In my mind As a matter of fact I think he's a Better quarterback Than he was Perhaps
41:34when he Was you know Throwing for 50 touchdowns As a second year Player and a First year starter It's just that
41:40At the time He was throwing To peak Tyreek Hill His Kelsey And just some Awesome complimentary Weapons Sure Rashi Rice We've
41:46talked about This very productive Receiver but very Much a possession guy Xavier Worthy I don't know what To make of him
41:53Right now The fact that we're Talking about Cyrus Allen their fifth Round pick Yes As like a potential Like savior for
41:59the Passing game Scares me a little bit And last year Patrick Mahomes Scored 25.3% Of his fantasy points Via his rushing
42:05Output Right so his Rushing yards And his rushing Touchdowns Yep Was fourth Amongst all Quarterbacks The highest He had ever Ranked
42:12prior to That was 11th For a full Season And he's been Much closer To middle of the Pack 13th 13th 19th
42:1815th 13th And 14th In the other Six years So he was Fourth Fourth last Year After you know The previous High
42:24was 11th So he's Coming off A major Knee injury Yeah I don't Think Patrick Mahomes Rushing is Going to be Anywhere
42:30Close to where It was Last year And they Added a Much better Running back Behind him The gravitational Pull that Prevents
42:37me From being Like totally Out on Patrick Mahomes It's just Patrick Mahomes Yeah Right That's what Makes us Hard Is that
42:43Like if You told me Patrick Mahomes Was throwing To the Three of Us And still Put up 250 Passing Yards And
42:49three Touchdowns I'd buy It Yeah You and I probably Would have 240 yards And three Touchdowns Mike would Get one Screen
42:55Yes But yeah So that's That's what Makes ranking Patrick Mahomes Hard Yeah And by The way Weeks One through Eight Last
43:02year 24 and a Half fantasy Points Per game Over the Next six Games Just 15 Fantasy Points Per game And then
43:08He tore The ACL So he Did come Back to Earth And then He had The injury So I'm Pretty low On
43:14him Actually I'm at 15 And part Of that Is that Yes I think He's an Exceptional Player But yeah If he's
43:21Not going To run Which he May not Coming off This Injury He can Still pass Right Obviously He was To the
43:27So with Largely The same Or maybe Even inferior Weapons Last year He was Quarterback Eight If you're Only Looking at The
43:33passing Fantasy Points Per game Okay Right So with No rushing But rushing Is a huge Part of It Right That's Why
43:39guys That are Lesser Players Than Patrick Mahomes Have major Upside Because even If Daniel Jones Maybe not Him Because But like
43:46Guys who Are not The player Of Patrick Mahomes Overall Give you Some sort Of rushing Upside Who's your Next guy Mike
43:52My next Guy Is my Next guys Which is Somebody I mentioned Or a group That I mentioned Briefly yesterday Jaguars Wide
43:58receivers One of the Hardest Position groups To sort Out In the The entire NFL I will Give you My order You
44:05guys Could tell Me if you Agree or Disagree on This order At 36 Parker Washington Yep At 40 Brian Thomas Jr.
44:11At 41 One spot Later The good Old Underrated Jacoby Myers And then At 62 Travis Hunter Who I Still Believe Is
44:17a Fine Late Round Flyer He Doesn't Cost You A lot 16th Round ADP Right Now And We'll See If he Plays
44:23More On Off Than We Think Then Maybe You Could Pay That Off Probably Better In Best Ball Than Anything But Yeah
44:30The end Of the day Washington's The guy That I'm Buying Into Because It Wasn't Just Late Last Season He Was Terrific
44:36Down The Stretch Last Season Nine Plus Targets 19 Plus Fantasy Points In Four Straight Games But If You Look At The
44:42He Hasn't Been An Elite Player With Trevor Lawrence It's Just Been Mac Jones So I Still Think He'll Continue That Role
44:49That He Played Last Year In Which He Is A Vertical Threat He Was Top Five In Average Depth To Target That
44:55Led To A Big Dip In Catch Rate For Him Last Season But I Think He Sticks In That And And Jacoby
45:01Meyers Very Solid Learned But The Ceiling Is Kind Of Limited For Him He Finished Between 19th And 32nd Fantasy Points Five
45:07Consecutive Seasons Now So Give me Washington I Think He's The The Maybe The Safest Play And Also The Highest Ceiling Frankly
45:14You Just Wondering When You Spend A lot Of Energy On Dynamics Like This In The Preseason If They Might Just End
45:20Up Like Where The Chargers Were Last Year Where It's Like Someone's Going To Score The Most Out Of Those Four Players
45:26Someone's Going To Score The Least But It Might Be That I Would Agree He's A Top Five Season I Should Yeah
45:33But Washington Just Feels Like The Better Overall Well Rounded Most Invested On Parker Washington They Are Being Drafted Back to Back
45:39Right Now In Fantasy Drafts Parker Washington And Brian Thomas Jr.
45:42And It Probably depends On What Your Roster Build Looks Like At That Point Do You Want More Upside Or Are You
45:48Looking For A Saver Floor If You're Going To Go For A Wide Receiver It Kind Of Depends On What You've Built
45:55There I Am Looking At Travion Henderson For My Next Player Guys Because I Want To Love This Guy And Rank Him
46:01So Much Higher Than I Do Every Time I Go To Move Up Higher I'm Like But I Don't Think I Can
46:07He He gave Us Other Monster Weeks Week 10 28 Fantasy Points He Was RB 4 Week 11 32.3 Fantasy Points He
46:13Was RB 3 And Week 15 30.1 He Was RB 3 Those Are Three Monster Games But If You Add Up All
46:20Of The Other Games He Had Outside Of That He Averaged 8.2 Points Per Game Plus Ramondre Stevenson Is Still There I
46:26Want To Put Him Higher So Badly Because He Is So Fun To Watch I Clearly Think He's A Better Player Than
46:32Ramondre Stevenson And In This Offense That Could Be Taking Off With The addition Of AJ Brown And Drake May Just Taking
46:38another Step I Want To Find A in ADP and a lot of the mock drafts that I have done.
46:44He's going to have more upside every single week.
46:47He'll probably have a handful of games that are absolutely mammoth because he's one of the most explosive players in the league already.
46:53And I know your retort, because we've already had this conversation, is going to be what about the fumbles?
46:59I hear you. Ramondre Stevenson. He's not going away.
47:01Has earned this Patriots coaching staff's trust. I know.
47:04They clearly value him a significant way. Trevi Henderson basically was a spectator during the Super Bowl, the biggest game in the league, and he's barely playing whatsoever.
47:12That was last year. I concede and I give you that.
47:15I would just say that the chances of him usurping Ramondre Stevenson are very low.
47:19I think when the season begins in 26 days, the first player on the field for the Patriots amongst running backs would be Ramondre Stevenson.
47:26And it won't surprise me if he plays 58% of the snaps and Henderson is lucky to get to 40.
47:32So I'm largely fading. Do you guys know that in 14 regular season games together last season, Trevi and Henderson had more carries than Ramondre Stevenson?
47:40Hard to believe. Some mop-up duty there, but yes.
47:42Things kind of fell apart in the playoffs for sure.
47:45Like to your point, Stevenson did have more passing down work.
47:48He was very effective last season. I'm with you.
47:51I haven't drafted much Henderson because he's too expensive.
47:53But I will say this. That doesn't mean that I'm going to rank Stevenson higher.
47:58Because as far as I'm concerned, if Henderson gets a shot, if he shows and earns more workload, the ceiling is substantially higher.
48:04If you look at the regular season last year, Ramondre Stevenson averaged 9.3 carries and 2.7 targets per game in those games with Henderson.
48:11So even though he was the lead back, the volume for him was really low last year.
48:16And also, he has one career top 20 fantasy season, Ramondre Stevenson.
48:19Oh, yeah. I'm not in a top 20. This is not the pro Ramondre case.
48:24You said that. We're on the same page. I just want to be clear that I'm still ranking Henderson higher.
48:29It's easy to say, I'm out in Henderson, so Stevenson must be higher because he's the lead back.
48:34I disagree with that. I'm still not taking... Stevenson's still down to 29 for me.
48:39And Henderson's a few spots higher just because of the upside.
48:42That doesn't mean I'm going to feel good in week one starting Henderson.
48:46But as far as like a bench guy goes, something like that to where he belongs.
48:50But again, his ADP is too high. So right now, I kind of don't want either of these guys.
48:56I just... Yeah. I don't think it's going to work.
48:58You've got him at 24. I've got him... Travion Henderson.
49:01You've got him at 24, Mike. I've got him at 26.
49:04Field, you've got him at 29. I think if there was no Ramondre Stevenson, all three of us would have him easily inside the top 20.
49:12We would have a different conversation. But that's not how the season's going to play out, my friends.
49:17One more player, Field. Late, great Toby Keith sang a song that I always enjoy listening to.
49:22I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was.
49:27And I'm wondering if the Niners are banking on George Kittle and Mike Evans.
49:31Follow that? No, I'm trying to play through the words in my head.
49:34I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was.
49:39It's like, hey, listen, I'm not... Every once in a while, I can dial it back.
49:44I can dial it up and just... You know?
49:46So, but anyways, George Kittle and Mike Evans are my last two players.
49:50Kind of doing them in tandem here. Because the Niners, I think, are banking on those guys, creating some magic for them this year.
49:57That's right. Shout out Rita Oaks. I love them.
49:59Yeah, Rita Oaks, artist. She's an amazingly talented artist.
50:02But yeah, George Kittle, who is coming off of an Achilles tear, suffered in the playoffs.
50:07Right? So this year, this calendar year, no surprise, George Kittle is A, attacking his rehab, and B, looks awesome.
50:12But this awesome means he's going to be available in week one.
50:16This awesome means he's going to play a legitimate role in week one.
50:19This awesome means that the Niners are going to feature him as prominently early in the season.
50:24I don't know. But he's being drafted way lower than he has since probably his rookie season.
50:29Meanwhile, Mike Evans, guys, he'll be 33 soon. Obviously, last year, he had a major injury.
50:34His yards after catch last season was just 4.4.
50:36His career average was 6.9. Like, there are some concerns for Mike Evans.
50:40It's just that this is also... Oh, you know, I take that back.
50:44That was Kittle, not Evans on that. Yeah, Kittle.
50:46My apologies. Dropped it. But, and Evans turns 33 in like a week from right now.
50:51By the way, but just is a touchdown-dependent player who a teammate of a pretty reasonable bet on.
50:56I just don't know what level of player Mike Evans still is right now.
51:00That's what makes him hard. I agree. I had Kittle on my list, and I'm just comfortably low on Mike Evans.
51:06I'll have zero exposure. And we joke before the show, like, who's like the most likely player to score a touchdown in week one?
51:13Evans probably on the list. Oh, yeah. He'll probably score.
51:16Or he'll probably have a couple big plays. In Australia as well.
51:19I just don't think you're going to get consistent numbers from him this year.
51:23It's tough. It's tough. Like, guys who are 33-plus at wide receiver in the NFL, generally the guys that can pull off
51:29like a wide receiver two season are slot guys, like a Julian Edelman, Larry Fitzgerald late in his career.
51:35Yeah. That's it. I mean, there's really no one else to hit it over the last decade.
51:40And Mike Evans is not that type of player.
51:42He's a vertical downfield player. As a part of that, when you're thinking through that exercise, do you think more often than
51:49not, it doesn't happen also for guys that change teams and are now playing in a new offense for the first time in 11 seasons?
51:56Fair. I mean, it is a Kyle Shanahan, Brock Purdy offense.
51:59And he might be wide receiver one. Like, there are some positives for Mike Evans.
52:03They're just offset by some negatives. They are. That's what makes it tough.
52:07Given the cost of both of these players, they are right next to each other in drafts.
52:12I would much rather have George Kittle given that position.
52:15Plus, you can throw him on IR. Just grab another tight end either at the end of the draft or on waivers.
52:21I think you'd be in a great spot. What do you got, Mike, for your final one?
52:26All right. Last one for me, fellas, is one Kyler Murray.
52:29He's interesting for a few reasons. First of all, he wasn't great last year.
52:33There's a reason Arizona moved on. He didn't clear 18.3 fantasy points in any of those five games.
52:38But in the five years prior to that, he was top 12 in fantasy points per game every single season.
52:44We know that he can still deliver with his legs.
52:47He's more evolved now. He's more of a conservative passer, which isn't a bad thing in Minnesota.
52:51You want to get the ball out of your hands and get it to Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, even Juwan Jennings and TJ Hawkinson.
52:58So that's good. Like, I think week to week.
53:01So when we put out our week one, two, three rankings, he's going to be near the top 12.
53:06It'll depend on that. I think so. But probably like in that eight to 14 range pretty much every week, a starting caliber quarterback.
53:13But the interesting part about this is what happens if Minnesota, I mean, Detroit is an easy schedule and a really good team.
53:20The Bears are good. The Packers are good. What if Minnesota is in contention late in the season?
53:25Jay McCarthy. Yeah. They're going to take a look at McCarthy.
53:28So come. I don't know if I would want to go every single week with Kyler Murray as my quarterback and then
53:34get to the later part of the season and not have him.
53:38If they decide, look, season's over, let's take a look at McCarthy.
53:41And here we are in week 15 fantasy playoff time.
53:44And I don't have my quarterback. So the good news is he's going in the 10th or 11th round of 12 team leagues.
53:50He could be your number two quarterback. That's the good news.
53:54The bad news is it's a tricky guy to rank because you could rank him 10th or you could rank him 25th.
54:00If you don't think he's going to keep the starting job.
54:03It's just it's kind of a fascinating situation. Also, it's a it's a bit of a like meeting in the middle for both J.J.
54:10Sorry for both Kyler Murray and Kevin O'Connell, because you mentioned the numbers for Kyler in his pre Minnesota days, his Arizona days are all very strong.
54:18He was running around a lot. The quarterbacks to Kevin O'Connell has had during his time in Minnesota.
54:23Let's think about some of them. Kirk Cousins, not a mobile quarterback.
54:26Sam Darnold, pocket quarterback. J.J. McCarthy. He can run, but he is a pocket quarterback within this system.
54:31Those are the guys they've had real investments in.
54:34So is Kevin O'Connell going to fold some of what Kyler did in Arizona into this offense?
54:39Or is the idea that Kyler acknowledges like we're in a new phase of my career.
54:43I need to kind of play by your rules and become an evolved pocket passer.
54:48So very interesting player. Good call there, Mike. And who's your last one, Daniel?
54:52Well, guys, I have been contemplating for a while now over the last week how.
54:56Much of a value. I think a certain player is and I have been higher on them than everybody else, but I
55:02want you guys to just take a minute and watch what we've put together here for you.
55:07Is Jadarion Price the best RB2 option in fantasy?
55:10Charbonnet is on the publicist. Ken Walker's in Kansas City.
55:12And do that lineup with slap. Chase in the first.
55:15Drake London in the second. King Henry in the third and Devonta Smith as a flex in the fourth.
55:21Plus Loveland and Burrow. And then Jadarion Price fills out your starting lineup.
55:24That squad would be unbelievable. Hey, where did these sunglasses come from?
55:28Kind of looks like I'm going to a NASCAR game.
55:31What a dweeb. I'm so doped and confused. So you're going to a NASCAR game?
55:35I did say NASCAR game. Yes, I did. Guys, let's take a look at that lineup.
55:40Backyard, by the way. Thank you very much. Yeah, that is a nice little pond.
55:44I wish that was my backyard. But look at the lineup.
55:47I did this as an exercise because I think this squad is unbelievable.
55:51This is from the 103 spot. Jamar Chase, Drake London, Derrick Henry.
55:54All three of them within their ADP. Devonta Smith is your flex.
55:58You get Colston Loveland as your starting tight end.
56:00Joe Burrow as your quarterback. And then Jadarion Price.
56:03And then Field. Just like you had talked about, I feel like after I take Jadarion Price, my next pick is definitely going to be another running back.
56:11Maybe that Rico Dowdle that Mike had talked about because it is clearly not nearly as deep as the other positions.
56:17But when you have Jamar Chase, Drake London, Devonta Smith, I'm starting all three of those wide receivers every single week.
56:23I'm starting Colston Loveland every single week. I'm likely starting Joe Burrow every single week.
56:27I can load up on depth at running back.
56:30You're taking a chance here. You're absolutely taking a chance on a rookie, but you're taking a chance on a rookie that's
56:36playing on a team that led the NFL in rush percentage.
56:39That had 17 touchdowns from their two running backs that are now not going to be starting the season for this squad.
56:45So I'm in on taking that shot, but you've got to have some onions to make it happen.
56:50Yeah, I just think the only question I have on Jadarion Price is how much passing game work he'll get.
56:56Heard. And I've said this that 94 times. Might as well make it 95.
57:00Again, six catches last year. Yep. Now, is that because of Jeremiah Love, or is it because it's an area that's just not really his bread and butter?
57:08We've got guys in the NFL that still dominate in fantasy without catching the football much.
57:13Derrick Henry, Nick Chubb used to do it for a long time.
57:16Obviously, Jonathan Taylor can do it as well, but those players are pretty unique and rare.
57:21If you left the draft with the squad that I just outlaid, obviously you feel like you're a little weak at the
57:27running back spot, but how do you feel about the rest of your team getting into it?
57:32I liked it a lot, yeah. I didn't feel weak at the running back spot to me.
57:37Okay. Yeah, it felt good to me. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
57:40I think this is a good player for this exercise for sure because the ceiling is, he comes out strong.
57:46He has a big week one. He takes control of this backfield and never looks back, and he's a good RB2 all season.
57:52The other end of it is, you know, he's a last pick of the first round.
57:57Maybe he has some things he has to work out.
58:00He's not involved in the passing game. Zach Charbonnet comes back.
58:03They're rotating guys early in the season, and by week five or six, Zach Charbonnet is back.
58:08If not earlier, there's reports he might be ready for week one.
58:11We'll see. I'm pessimistic, but we'll see. And then Charbonnet progressively works his way into a bigger role, and then Janarian Price
58:17is not even a starting caliber player for your team in the second half of the season.
58:22So this is a guy with a wide, one of the biggest range of outcomes, I think, in his rookie season.
58:28Luckily, his sixth round ADP, not too bad. So I have no major issues with the investment there.
58:33The only pushback I would say is that there's some good wide receivers.
58:37Sixth round ADP is what you said? That's an industry?
58:40Yeah. Yeah, that applies to consensus for 12 team leagues, including ESPN.
58:43And then, of course, drafting his best ball. He's going in the sixth round as well.
58:48So there are some good wide receivers going in that range, which gives me a little pause on taking a dead zone running back.
58:55I am interested to see how our platform with the ESPN changes with this, because right now he's coming off the board
59:01in the ninth round of ESPN drafts. In 10-team leagues?
59:04In 10-team leagues. Yeah. So you can wait. It sounds like maybe on our site, but I wonder if on other places.
59:10You might have to look at that ADP to see if you could put together the lineup that I just suggested.
59:16I've seen some people on social media sort of throw some shade at ESPN ADP right now.
59:21And it's unique. It's whack. It's August 14th. The inference, and maybe I'm just misreading these things and I'm taking stuff too
59:27personally, is it's like the inference sometimes feels like they're trying to say it's like an ESPN problem.
59:33No, no, no. We have no control over the ADP.
59:35ADP is determined by every person who goes on ESPN, uses ESPN.
59:3914 million people, whatever it was last year, use ESPN.
59:42And where they draft players determines they're ADP. I think it's funny when people complain about it because like if you feel
59:48a guy, like let's just say Mike Evans, right?
59:51He's lower in our draft room. So certainly if people auto draft or whatever, he's going to be lower in ADP.
59:57If you like Mike Evans higher than that, lucky you.
59:59Take advantage of it. Like what are you complaining for?
60:02It doesn't make any sense. Yes, I am. Yeah, that's what we're complaining about ADP is a very odd.
60:08I will say if you're looking for ESPN ADP on our site, it used to be called underneath the tab ESPN ADP.
60:14It is now not called that. It's called ESPN Live Draft Trends.
60:17Yeah, so make sure you check that out if you're looking for it.
60:21We got some mailbag questions here from our chat.
60:24Again, a shout out to Eric Moody. Follow him on social media at Eric and Moody.
60:28This first question comes from Nicholas Herrera wants to know, is it a decent strategy to target stacks, including a running back
60:35and a quarterback as opposed to wide receivers? Teams either throw it or run it for touchdowns.
60:39And if I got a running back and a quarterback, I am scoring no matter what.
60:44No, because you're accepting one or the other instead of potentially both, right?
60:48So you want to stack a pass catcher with a quarterback.
60:51Explain that. Just give me that context a little bit more when you say that.
60:55So like if you have, let's say, Jared Goff and Jameer Gibbs, you're accepting that you get one or the other, assuming
61:01it's a rushing or a passing touchdown. Right. You know, if he throws it to a Monroe.
61:06But if you had John Robinson and Jared Goff, you could get the passing touchdown and the rushing touchdown.
61:12And the rushing touchdown. The goal here is to stack a pass catcher with the quarterback because that gives you a higher
61:18ceiling if they have a big game. Whereas the running back, you know, the running backs could be naked essentially.
61:24You don't need supporting cast. Like if you had Brock Purdy and Christian McCaffrey or something, like where you're going to have
61:30a guy that's involved in the passing game a lot, maybe.
61:33But like, I don't know. That's not a sharp team building exercise.
61:36Do you have a favorite naked running back? No, I don't.
61:40Don't answer that. All right. All right. But what you're basically saying is stacking, the whole point is to put together upside, right?
61:46The chance to be able to boom. You're limiting your upside if you take a quarterback and a running back from the same spot.
61:53All right. Next question we have from chat. This one comes from Yo Mustachio.
61:57I like this one. Harrison or Rome Adunze? I'm Rome Adunze.
62:00Yeah. Yeah. Give me Adunze. Yeah. I mean, we've talked a lot about Harrison today.
62:04We've talked about Adunze and these Bears wide receivers this week.
62:08I'm still in camp Adunze. And make a note for tomorrow, Christina, our producer, whoever.
62:12Oh, no. Tomorrow's Saturday. Yep. All right. I'm going to say this.
62:15I'll be here. Hold on. I'm going to say this tomorrow.
62:18I'm going to say this right now, and I'm going to repeat it when it gets drafted on Monday.
62:24Whoever drafts him. I was walking past Courtney Cronin, who covers the Bears for us here at ESPN, but also hosts a ton of shows.
62:31She was hosting Sports End of this morning and then doing an interview.
62:35I didn't hear who she said, but I heard the sentence.
62:38He has been the Bears' most consistent player throughout training camp.
62:41I found Courtney after the interview, and I was like, I'm very curious who you were referring to when you said that.
62:47And she goes, DeAndre Swift. He's been excellent during training camp.
62:50Yeah. Wow. That's what I mean. That checks out.
62:53Talk that away. That's good, Field. He's going to be one of them boring guys that you started as your RB2 all year long.
63:00But we're going to bring this comment back up because not everybody listens to the entirety of every episode on Monday during the mock draft.
63:07Okay. We'll talk to you, DeAndre Swift. I like it.
63:10I like it. Not tomorrow because we'll be at a play space or something tomorrow.
63:14Last question from you guys. At Index of Suspicion, Daniel Dopp looks like he has started a religion that congregates at a...
63:20Buc-ee's. Yeah, that's not bad. You're not wrong, my friend.
63:23What is Buc-ee's? You don't know. No, I don't know what that is.
63:27You guys don't know Buc-ee's? No. What is it?
63:30Oh, my gosh. We have so many questions. You don't know Buc-ee's?
63:33No, I don't. Sounds like we have a new punishment we need to put on the wheel.
63:38That would be like a treat. If it's not a NASCAR sponsor, I don't know what it is.
63:43We're going to make you go to a Buc-ee's.
63:46You're really going to make me Google this? Yeah, it's just like a convenience store with all kinds of food.
63:51Do you know what a Wawa is? Yeah, of course.
63:54Buc-ee's has a little chipmunk mascot. It's that. In the South.
63:57You have Sheetz, I think, in Pennsylvania. That's what you're used to.
64:01It's that. Okay. All right. Yeah, I guess I recognize this.
64:04Oh, my gosh. I'm sorry that Mike Geis is so out of it.
64:08Okay, we'll work on it. Hey, look, I'm here to learn, okay?
64:11Not Sigma today. Let's look at our punishment that we have.
64:14Oh, yeah. We voted on. We had three. I actually have a Buc-ee's chipmunk suit.
64:18Don't. That could be another punishment. Shut up. All right.
64:21We're going to do that. All right. Let's take a look at what this poll result ended with.
64:26Of course. Oh, boy. Waxing a leg took 61% of the vote.
64:30Fantasy Haiku 11% and temporary necktie to 28%. So waxing a leg going to go onto our punishment wheel.
64:35I thought my haikus were so good last year.
64:38Maybe that got us to 11%, but we knew who was.
64:41We knew what was happening. We knew the leg was bound to be worse in pain.
64:45The other thing is with haikus, they don't require much effort.
64:49It's what? Whoa. Rude. It's 12. Isn't it 12 syllables?
64:51God, man. I worked so hard on those. I wrote three of them.
64:55That took Mike like seven evenings in a row.
64:58The problem is they don't have that in Excel.
65:00Yeah, that's true. They couldn't. Wow. Rude. No haikus.
65:03Rude. Excel doesn't really get it. I'm going to have to have a conversation with Mama Dopp and make sure she doesn't
65:09try to sign us up for too much punishment because she gets enjoyment out of it.
65:14Tomorrow she's like, oh, temporary neck tattoo? How about a real one?
65:17How about we do a real one? No, she'd be like, whoever loses gets punched in the face.
65:22Stop it. Just trying to do it. That's aggressive and I like it.
65:26I know. All right. That's going to do it for us today.
65:29Hey, y'all. Try to hurt us on Monday. Come back.
65:32Hang out with us on Monday. Going to be a ton of fun.
65:36Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
65:39You guys, you deserve it. We love you. We'll see you back here when we're drafting on Monday.
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