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0:26Restrictions and fees apply. You're in the 06010. You can tell that Liz is from LA because she's got a little jacket on in the studio right now.
0:34It's a little chilly. But she went to college in England.
0:37Yeah, that's true. In Rhode Island. I love this season.
0:40I bit my tongue when Daniel said, like, it's an upgrade.
0:43I can't bite my tongue no more. Oh! It's an upgrade.
0:47Big upgrade. That's right. You always make me feel so well.
0:50Oh, gosh. It's going to be a lot of fun.
0:53Mike, take the rest of the year off. We're going to dive into a bunch of fun games today, guys.
0:59It's what we love. Of course. We wouldn't say that.
1:01And by the way, you're not going to be here tomorrow.
1:05Liz is holding it down for me tomorrow. Yeah.
1:07We're going to have me, Mike, and Liz. No, we'll see how that one goes.
1:12But we've got a lot of fun stuff to dive into today.
1:15A Week 5 recap. We're going to do a quick Monday Night Football preview.
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1:34You can grab something fun for your league. And with that, let's dive into what was a fun game if you were a Patriots fan, Field?
1:41Yeah. On top of that, by the way, we will have not breaking news, but we'll have reaction to breaking news from yesterday.
1:48That's right. Which is a huge trade involving a guy that we once thought was going to be a fantasy superstar.
1:54The Patriots absolutely wax the Raiders 45-17. Hey, hey.
1:57Trigger warning. You're not allowed to say that anymore.
1:59Gosh. The Patriots absolutely shave off the Raiders. 45-17.
2:02And guys, Drake Mayee is back. Yes, he is.
2:04Drake May is all the way back. Depending on what happens tonight in Monday Night Football, then Josh Allen hasn't played this week.
2:11So it's still possible. It's in the bag, yeah.
2:14But Drake May, as of right now, quarterback one for the week.
2:17He was quarterback one last week as well. As we record this show, Drake May is already back up to quarterback 10 for the season, guys.
2:25He had three straight games to begin the year under 10 fantasy points.
2:29It would take a pretty Herculean effort for Matthew Stafford to jump over Drake May.
2:33So he'll probably enter week six as a top 10 quarterback.
2:36And this Raiders team, like I don't think this is Drake May doing this to the Seahawks defense, but this Raiders team,
2:43there were three and one coming into this game and they nearly beat Kansas City last week.
2:48This is a real team he did this against.
2:50And they had not been surrendering a ton to opposing quarterbacks.
2:53And on top of that, Drake May had no A.J.
2:56Brown. Yes. No Mac Holland. Travion Henderson gets hurt really early in this game.
3:00We'll talk about that in a minute. The Patriots offensive line, bunch of injuries there.
3:05Drake May was throwing to Pop Douglas and Eftem Chisholm.
3:08Romeo Dobbs had one catch yesterday and Drake May still went off for 39.5 fantasy points.
3:12He was unbelievable. And here's the schedule coming up for Drake May over the next five games.
3:17Yes, please. Tell me any of these that say to you, all right, I'm scared.
3:22I'm worried that like that under 10 fantasy points performance is coming again.
3:25Yep. We got the Jets. We got the Bears.
3:28We got the Dolphins. We got the Packers. We got the Lions.
3:32All of those teams are, all those games are ones in which Drake May will be right back inside our top 10.
3:38We're not going to be talking about Drake May in the rankings portion of the program.
3:43He was awesome. Travion Henderson got hurt. He played just 18.2% of the snaps.
3:47And think back to week one when Ramondre Stevenson played a ton against Seattle because there was no Travion Henderson.
3:52Yep. I think if Henderson's going to miss some time, you can expect something like that going forward.
3:58Ramondre is one of those guys. He's kind of like a cat in fantasy football, right?
4:02You count him out. He's got nine lives though.
4:05Okay. Not a superstar. Yep. Right? But kind of going to ham and egg his way to mid-tier, probably low-end RB status.
4:11For rankings purposes, with no Jameer Gibbs and four teams going to buy next week.
4:16I think Ramondre, assuming Travion is out, will probably be somewhere around RB15 in our rankings against the Jets.
4:21For the Patriots, while Pop Duggos had a huge game yesterday, there's really no Patriots pass catcher.
4:26Right now you're saying to yourself, all right, got to lock him in, even with Drake May being back.
4:32The Raiders had a couple of interesting things to me.
4:35And we did see Fernando Mendoza at the end of this game.
4:38I don't think we're quite on Mendoza watch yet, guys.
4:41But it was cool to see him out there.
4:44He did have 48 passing yards on six for eight attempts.
4:47Two things here for the Raiders. One, Brock Bowers is just ridiculous.
4:50Super good at football. He's already tight end five for the season and he missed two games.
4:55Insane. He's had at least 20 fantasy points in every game.
4:59I think he's the biggest single positional difference maker in the game right now.
5:03Right now. And Trey McBride's awesome. He had another great game yesterday.
5:06And he's under 19 fantasy points per game. Brock Bowers is close to 24.
5:10That's ridiculous how good Brock Bowers is. But Brock's going to be in our lineup every single week.
5:16To me, the most interesting part that I think bears monitoring going forward is Ashton Gentry, who yesterday the Raiders seemed like they were being very careful with.
5:24This game got out of hand and they yanked him.
5:27But Ashton Gentry had just 27 rushing yards, 10 carries for 27 rushing yards.
5:31A couple weeks ago, I brought the debate to the table.
5:34And this is before we knew about this foot injury.
5:37Is Ashton Gentry more mid-tier RB2 than low-end RB1?
5:39I was concerned by the incredibly inefficient rushing opportunities for Ashton Gentry.
5:43And the passing game stuff is really good. It was good again yesterday.
5:47Three catches, 50 yards. But until we see better rushing efficiency between that and this injury that I think the Raiders are
5:53going to have to manage for a while, I think Ashton Gentry is more like a, not mid-tier RB2, but a stronger end RB2 than a legit RB1.
6:01Any disagreement there from you guys? I don't disagree.
6:04I think it bums me out that he's not operating at 100% because with this offense, if he was operating at 100%
6:10in this offense, I'd be fine with it. But this offense, we've already downgraded a little bit because it's the Raiders.
6:16They don't have as much touchdown equity. They're not going to push the ball down the field nearly as much.
6:22Like, there's not as much there. So with him not operating at full potential, would you rather just have the Raiders throw
6:29him on IR for four weeks as a fantasy manager?
6:32I don't think that's going to happen. But I do.
6:34Does he miss a week? No mention. Maybe. He said something to the effect of like, I think the Raiders would at
6:41least consider whether they need to give him a week to rest, Liz.
6:45And it feels like the kind of guy that needs a week to rest right now.
6:49I think that that makes sense. I just wish Mike Washington was more available as a pass catcher.
6:55I wish he had more receiving appeal. He was not a player in college that was used that much in the receiving game.
7:01We know he has great speed and we know he's a great downhill rusher, but I think he's much more game script dependent.
7:08And that's what makes Ashton Gentry so tricky in terms of where you place him because he can be used even if game script isn't going his way.
7:16You mentioned the receiving work. So yes, I would like to see him rest up.
7:20But I also, we were just talking about before the show started running back and how you need somebody.
7:26So yes, we might have to rank him as a high end RB2 instead of a low end RB1, but we're not.
7:32What does that mean for managers though? Right? Like you still have to roll him out, you know?
7:38So it's like, you know, well, that's, I think that will be a question.
7:42Is that like, if he misses two practices this week, are you still going to absolutely without question, roll them out?
7:48And also it comes down to like, how many of these players are the difference between winning and not winning a championship?
7:54You can win a championship with Ashton Gentry right now.
7:57Now, if this efficiency and this injury lingers, I don't think you win a championship because of Ashton Gentry.
8:03I agree with that. We did see Dylan Lobby, by the way, yesterday.
8:07He was playing a decent amount even before the game got out of hand.
8:11Last thing for me on this game. If we were to do a mini quarterback draft right now, going forward, Josh Allen's going to go number one.
8:18Yep. Who's going number two for you guys for the rest of the season amongst all quarterbacks, knowing what we know through five weeks?
8:25Is it Brock Purdy? Is it Aiden Daniels? Lamar Jackson?
8:28Who's healthy? Not healthy? Is it Drake May? It's really hard for me to say Drake May because the first three weeks
8:35of the season did happen and that's factored into overall.
8:38I mean, there are some people who are working their way out of a whole three weeks into the season.
8:44Yeah. This is just for the rest of the year.
8:46Okay. If it's not like who's going to finish this QB2, but if we started the clock in week six and went forward.
8:53That's a tough question. It is a good question because we're sitting here perseverating over it, right?
8:58Yeah. I don't, I think I would still rather have Lamar Jackson.
9:02Okay. I just think that there's part of this is Drake May did some things and you talked about it that like,
9:08I don't think I expect him to do. I don't expect him to have 374 passing yards with Efton Chisholm and Pop Douglas more often than not.
9:16Doesn't mean that it's not in his bag to be able to do some things.
9:20Yeah. But like, I, I'm not sure that I view him there.
9:24I do definitely view him as back into my top seven without question.
9:28Like, I feel like there's no way I'm benching him, especially with the schedule that you just talked about.
9:33I mean, I think it's at least possible that Drake is QB2 the rest of the way, which is a testament to how talented he is.
9:41I mean, totally just a ridiculous performance from him yesterday.
9:44That's all I got on the Patriots and the Raiders.
9:46All right. Well, I'm going to take over for the Colts and the Steelers because there's another quarterback who is surprising.
9:53Oh my God. We'll start with Aaron Rodgers took care of business at home, beating the Colts by a score of 34 to 22.
10:00Rodgers was mistake free in a home effort against the Colts.
10:03He completed 22 of 31 for 235 passing yards and three touchdowns.
10:06That makes the third week in a row in which he's thrown for three scores.
10:11He's also now cleared 20 fantasy points in three straight efforts, making him the QB6 in fantasy points per game over the last three weeks.
10:18Right? That is a mind blow when you contextualize everything.
10:21He'll travel to Tampa Bay in week six and we'll see if the Bucs can do to him what they did to Dak Prescott.
10:28I'm not really holding my breath. Other standouts, obviously Jalen Warren, who continues to be a star while Rico Dowdle is out of the lineup.
10:35Warren touched the ball 21 times for 188 scrimmage yards, two touchdowns, one on the ground, one through the air, and that was good for 36.8 fantasy points.
10:43Warren has now cleared 125 scrimmage yards for three straight weeks.
10:46Remember, Rico Dowdle has only been out for two, which leads me to my next point because right now there are whispers
10:53of Rico Dowdle returning in week six. But I'm still starting Warren regardless of Dowdle's availability also because of his dominance in
10:59the passing game and because we know Aaron Rodgers needs a safety valve.
11:03Kenny Gainwell went to the pirate ship and now Jalen Warren, who was in second place in that regard last year, now gets a promotion of sorts.
11:11We will take it. He's the RB six and catches the RB two in receiving yards since the start of the season.
11:17Other performances of note got Pat Fryermuth, who converted seven to five for 44 receiving yards and two touchdowns.
11:23That was the third time this season he found the end zone.
11:26Michael Pittman, obviously on IR, which made an opportunity for Jeremy Bernard, who drew nine targets seemingly as a result.
11:32Also part of that equation was Roman Wilson's absence.
11:35He hurt his finger and he is expected to quote miss some time.
11:39Yep. So that's the Steelers side. Shall we move on?
11:42Yes. The Colts. I was glad you covered it.
11:44This is my question for you guys on the Steelers.
11:47Okay. It's very fast. Do we think that Jalen Warren can do to Rico Dowdle what Rico Dowdle did to Hubbard last
11:53year, at least for a little bit, which is, hey, Rico's going to return at some point.
11:58Yeah. Almost played this past weekend. If he comes back next week, the Steelers can't put the toothpaste back in the tube
12:05here and go, all right, you know what? Running back by committee here.
12:09Jalen Warren and Rico Dowdle. I don't expect Jalen Warren to play 80% of the snaps when Rico Dowdle was around, but
12:15the number's got to be much closer to like 65.
12:18I think it's also a little bit different because Bryce Young does not have the same command of power that Aaron Rodgers does.
12:25And if Aaron Rodgers is favoriting someone, that person is going to continue to be targeted both in the receiving game, obviously, and utilized on the ground.
12:33I would default towards being disappointed and starting Jalen Warren with an expectation and then finding out, oh, wow, they really do want to get Rico Dowdle involved.
12:41He's outscoring Ashton Gentry. I'm surprised about this. Yeah.
12:43Then we'll get there. But until then, like Jalen Warren has been unbelievable.
12:47You got to keep rolling with it. Jonathan Taylor has normally been awesome.
12:51He struggled a little bit in this one. 15 carries for 45 rushing yards, three catches for 37 receiving yards.
12:57That was good for 11.2 fantasy points. Didn't find the end zone, but I don't think anybody is too concerned.
13:03Things are up. Things are down. He is still a dominant player in the position.
13:07I'm not concerned because I have another player in the squad that got in the end zone, Liz Loza, and I am
13:13so grateful that it finally happened this year. And Tyler Warren.
13:16Who scored a rushing touchdown instead of Jonathan Taylor.
13:19He sure did. And it spiked his total fantasy performance.
13:22He was tied for the team high in looks, converting 7 of 9 for 83 receiving yards.
13:27Yes. And also that rushing score, 21.4 fantasy points, his highest fantasy point total of the season.
13:32Other quick mentions, Keenan Allen, who has been healthy and not healthy, obviously had some issues ahead of the season.
13:38He also drew nine targets. Wasn't as efficient with his opportunities as Warren.
13:42Just five catches for 45 receiving yards. And Josh Downs continued to disappoint, converting just three of six looks.
13:47Yeah. Not really a whole lot from the Colts' perspective.
13:50It feels like this is, they are kind of what we think they are.
13:54They host Tennessee, right? That's not a secondary I'm particularly afraid of in week six.
13:58But there's nothing exciting here outside of Warren and Jonathan Taylor.
14:02Do you agree? Might be one more thing. Okay, okay, okay.
14:05Tell us. You guys ready to do some sicko stuff right now?
14:08Oh, I'm ready. I'm ready, Phil. Nothing like sickos on a Monday.
14:12How many players are a bigger positional advantage besides Brock Bowers and Spencer Schrader right now, baby!
14:17Oh, kicker talk on the show. Are you guys aware of what's going on right now?
14:21Bring it. Nope. Give me the loadout. Spencer Schrader, over the past four games, this is his fantasy points in each of those last four games.
14:29This is in a league with decimal scoring, so it may not be exactly this in your league, but it's not far off.
14:36So if it's like a 34-yard kick, you would get 3.4 yards.
14:39Okay. 15.9, 19.7, 17.4, and 21.3. Are you kidding me?
14:42You can also tell that Field had a quiet night yesterday because he got to dig into some other stats.
14:48Some kicker stats. I do have him in a high leverage league.
14:51Really? Really? Like, he's actually getting 16.4 fantasy points.
14:54He put his rears on and did the work.
14:57I know. I mean, it's amazing. So just for context, right, like the guy that we think many of us believe is
15:03or was often the number one drafted kicker and is the best kicker in the league is probably Brandon Aubrey.
15:09He's at nine fantasy points per game. Our guy Spencer Schrader is at 16.4, and I'm not even sure if that, let's see, does that count?
15:17That may or may not. That doesn't even factor in what we did yesterday yet.
15:21Like, the guy is, this is ridiculous. That's unbelievable.
15:24So a couple things here. Very, very quickly. And then I will get off my Spencer Schrader, Schrader soapbox is, uh, he
15:30is obviously a very talented kicker, right? He has, he is, he's, he's crushing it.
15:34He had two 50, I think it was a 57 and a 54 yard bomb yesterday.
15:39Unbelievable. They play, he plays for a coach in Shane Steichen that is going to take the points.
15:44And in a league where we're seeing these coaches and it did not cost them.
15:49We'll talk about the Jaguars in a bit, but Liam Cohen had probably what, at least two field goal attempts that he could have kicked.
15:56And he said, I'm going for it here. Shane Steichen loves to kick field goals.
16:00So Spencer Schrader, that's two minutes on Spencer Schrader had to give a shout out to him.
16:05Also available in 46% of ESPN fantasy leagues. I just looked it up.
16:09So that's close to 50%. Eric Moody, be on alert for your waiver article.
16:13What's his updated point total? Well, I'm not sure what his updated point total.
16:17I was just looking to see how many players have scored at least 14 points in every single game so far this year.
16:24There's only five players in the NFL that have scored at least 14 points.
16:28And then Spencer Schrader has done it four times as a kicker.
16:3168 fantasy points right now in this, in this league, which it depends on again, scoring and all that.
16:37Anyways, I digress. Let's talk about Eagles and Jaguars.
16:40Speaking of kickers, let's talk about this London game.
16:42Someone give me a good Cam Little impression. Can you give me a Cam Little impression at the end?
16:48I thought he was going to hit the Ronaldo at the end, but he just sort of went the, yeah, he just, he, yeah.
16:55Oh, he did the Jude Bell game. Oh, that's what it was.
16:58Zach is mentioning. The game was, of course, being played in London.
17:02This game took forever. By the way, we watched the entirety of our fantasy focus countdown show on Sunday, which has never been able to happen before.
17:10The Jaguars pulled this one out. Trevor Lawrence, none of this looked pretty, to be honest, when you were really watching the game.
17:16It wasn't great. But for the Jaguars, Trevor Lawrence, 331 passing yards with two touchdowns.
17:21From a fantasy perspective, the dude looked good if you utilized him this week.
17:25For the running back spot, Basial Tootin touched the ball 24 times.
17:28Again, didn't really turn into a ton of production, but he is getting all of the volume as the guy in this backfield still, it feels like.
17:36I mean, he dominated touches yesterday. Yes. Tootin had 22 rushing attempts.
17:40Chris Rodriguez had two. Yep. And he had three targets as well for Basial Tootin.
17:44So like, he's clearly locked in as that guy.
17:47When I look at this receiving core, Parker Washington, clearly the only guy that like I'm trusting week in and week out.
17:53Brenton Strange popped off. I'm not done yet. Okay.
17:56Brenton Strange, back-to-back weeks with eight targets, seven catches, and at least 13 fantasy points.
18:00Like, that's awesome from a tight end perspective. Right now, he's in that tight end one conversation.
18:05I believe low end tight end one conversation, especially going into week six because you'll have Travis Kelsey, Sam Lapora, TJ Hawkinson, and Mike Kosicki all on by.
18:13And Tootin, as I had said, 11 straight fantasy points in four straight.
18:17He just needs a touchdown. Like, if he doesn't get into the end zone, he's not going to like pop off.
18:23With the volume he's getting, he's getting like a decent floor for you as a low-end RB2.
18:28But if he doesn't get in the end zone, he's not getting enough receiving game work, and he's not super efficient to
18:34really pay off in a major way, but he's not crushing your fantasy squad.
18:38He was a little bit like Cam Scadaboo, a little bit like Chase Brown.
18:42We'll talk about Chase Brown in a little bit.
18:45The want to. For Tootin. But yeah, so he's, again, he's not the reason you're winning your league, but he is at
18:52least not the reason you are losing your league right now.
18:55The Jaguars will stay in London. Oh. Yes. Another game for them next weekend in London.
18:59Yeah, what was the thing, the set that you had there playing?
19:03Yesterday was the start of a rip of 30 regular season games, 26 of which will be played not in Jacksonville.
19:09They're going to Orlando next year. It's a temporary home as they do stadium renovations.
19:13So between the London games and the Orlando games, a lot of games not being played in Duval.
19:19Is Parker Washington? It's not the exact same type of player.
19:22But I think the player that I'm going to compare him to, and you would know this better than anybody, Daniel, I
19:28think has leveled up, which is a crazy thought because he was already amazing.
19:32He's like my, he's like Amon Ross St. Brown now.
19:35He is similar to that. Like, you know, Amon Ross for a while was just basically just, you know, just, it was
19:42a lot of stuff at or near the line of skirmish.
19:45Now Amon Ross being utilized in all different ways.
19:47Parker is a little bit like that. Just like small guy, not the fastest guy.
19:52And yet he just, like if you throw the football to him, he is going to dominate.
19:57He plays a similar chip on the shoulder too.
19:59Also in terms of draft capital spent, right? Like Amon Ross was very disappointed that he was drafted.
20:05He, I believe it was a third round pick, right?
20:08He was drafted. Amon Ross, fourth rounder. Fourth round pick.
20:10He was upset that he fell. Parker Washington, I believe a sixth round pick, right?
20:15So I love the grit when these guys are like, you know what?
20:19I'm going to show you. And he's showing all of us.
20:22He's not getting, I would love it if he got Amon.
20:25Well, Amon Ross didn't get a ton of volume, but I would love it if Parker Washington got Amon Ross St.
20:31Amon Ross St. Brown kind of volume. Not really doing that, but size, stature, what he does.
20:36That second touchdown. Yeah, he's awesome. He's the man.
20:39He's making ridiculous catches. Better on himself coming into the year.
20:42Yep. Turned down an extension. And through five weeks, I would say that he's adding a few million dollars per year to that extension.
20:49Shout out Parker Washington. Yep. On the other side of this one, the Eagles looked awful.
20:54Awful. Terrible. Will Shipley, unfortunately, got hurt in this one.
20:56He was the only running back that you may have tried to roll with because both Tank Bigsby and Saquon Barkley were already out.
21:03But Damian Pierce carried the ball 11 times for 14 yards.
21:07Yeah, that ain't it. That's not going to do it for us.
21:10When you look at the wide receivers, obviously, in this game, there was no Devontae Smith.
21:15I'm not interested right now in starting either Makai Lemon or Dontavian Wicks or Darius Cooper in spite of the fact that he's found the end zone again.
21:23I'm not following that. I'm not chasing the touchdowns.
21:26The real conversation for me is that Jalen Hurts just isn't a starting quarterback for us anymore.
21:31Who was the debate we had? Jalen Hurts. It was somebody who was like, I want to cut Jalen Hurts for this person.
21:37I think it was to cut Jalen Hurts to acquire Jacoby Brissett.
21:41I think it was something like that. Yeah. We were like, well, you can't do that with Jalen.
21:46I'm not sure you can cut Jalen. Well, I don't know.
21:49You might be able to. You might be able to because people are going to say that when Devontae Smith comes back, there will be a lift.
21:57But the reason is because the rushing efficiency has gone because of the offensive line absences, exits, really.
22:02So Jalen Hurts has five straight seasons with eight plus rushing touchdowns.
22:06There you go. Up until last year, he had four straight seasons with 10 plus rushing touchdowns.
22:11He had three seasons in a row in there where he had 13 plus rushing touchdowns.
22:15That's the reason why he had all of that volume.
22:18When you look at it now, one rushing touchdown through the first five games, that means that his upside is not there anymore.
22:25You remember that rushing touchdown, by the way? That was the rushing touchdown against the Bears on Monday night.
22:31Oh, that's right. End of the first half. Where we thought maybe they'd go up and spike it to kick a field goal or run one play.
22:38Yep. Instead, they just snuck it in. Yeah, 1.5% of Jalen Hurts' fantasy points came from rushing yesterday as he had two rushes for two yards.
22:46The days of Jalen Hurts being an elite fantasy quarterback are on ice.
22:50I am going to say that you can eat definitely, clearly, obviously, Benjam.
22:54I'm okay with you cutting him. Right now, he is quarterback 20, averaging 0.2 more fantasy points per game than Deshaun Watson
23:00and averaging 0.6 less fantasy points per game than Aaron Rodgers.
23:03He is not it right now. That much is for sure.
23:06Not great. Hopefully, things bounce back, but it is not looking good.
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24:25Right now. Speaking of a bounce back field. Did you know that you could not win at a football game?
24:31I was not aware. Actually, our friend Pat Doherty does an amazing job over at Roto World.
24:36Had a tweet that only the NFC East could find a way to go winless as a division in a week in
24:42which they had two teams playing each other. It's unbelievable.
24:45Cowboys, Eagles, Commanders, Giants combined for zero wins yesterday.
24:48We were in the war room. Field was at home because he was on daddy duty while also watching.
24:53And being in the war room while this happened, Field, I so desperately wish you were there.
24:58It lost its mind. It must have been the perfect.
25:01Poor memory. Yes, absolutely. I just, I can't get over.
25:04This is not a fantasy conversation. Just the way the game ended.
25:08Frankly, I think it's Jaden Daniels' responsibility. To be honest with you.
25:11I just, I think if that were. Situational awareness?
25:14Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think if this were Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, we'd be saying like, how
25:20on earth do you not know that? That's fundamental stuff.
25:23You are the leader of this franchise. Yep. I don't know.
25:26He protected his elbow. I'm not getting mad. Okay.
25:29But they also tied. They should have won that game.
25:32They should have. As far as this game, it brings me great joy to say that Malik Neighbors is back.
25:38Oh my gosh. Back to back monster weeks for Malik Neighbors.
25:41Yeah. Looked awesome. He had 20 targets yesterday. Mm-hmm.
25:4320 targets. Now, Jameis Winston threw the ball 54 times.
25:46So, ton of opportunity there. He had 20 targets.
25:49He looks great. The weather was awful for much of this game, and he still managed 121 receiving yards, 11 catches.
25:55He was sensational. He and Isaiah Likely form one of the most enjoyable wide receiver tight end duos to watch right now in the NFL.
26:02Well, Isaiah Likely, who had 13 targets of his own, 11 catches for 94 yards, two touchdowns.
26:07Incredible value at tight end. Tight end won for the week, and I don't think that's going to change tonight.
26:13Obviously, Brock Bowers. Obviously, Trey McBride. Isaiah Likely is in that next tier.
26:17Whether you want to call that a one-man tier of just Isaiah Likely, whether you want to include George Kittle, whether you
26:23think Tyler Warren's good enough to be in that tier, I don't know.
26:27But Isaiah Likely's been amazing. He's going nowhere. He is with all those Giants injuries.
26:32And by the way, they draw the Saints next week.
26:34The Saints have been awful against the run, but they have not been efficient at all against the pass.
26:40So, they can move the ball through the air.
26:43On the running back front, Cam Scadaboo fumbled in overtime.
26:46He did see... Oh. He had the exact same tweet, too.
26:49Sorry, I saw Pat's first, but that is Mina.
26:51Of course. You guys know me. Always on top of it.
26:55The absolute best. Yes. Absolute legend, Mina Kimes. Great tweet there as well.
26:58Cam Scadaboo played a ton of snaps yesterday. Oh, my God.
27:02Jaden Daniels ensuring no one can win in week five out of respect for Jaden Daniels.
27:06It's a great tweet. Amazing. Man, I got to spend more time on Twitter.
27:10That is in the lore. Wow. That is amazing right there.
27:13Scadaboo played a ton of snaps for the Giants.
27:16He did. Continues his remarkably inefficient season, though. 7.1 fantasy points in PPR.
27:20I think... So, Liz and I talked about this a little bit.
27:23I believe Cam Scadaboo played 61% of the snaps, and both the other guys played, like, under 20.
27:29Yeah, it was... Naji Harris. 63.1 for Scadaboo and 19 each for Naji.
27:32There you go. A little frustrating to see, like, Isaiah Likely being, like, targeted on bubble screens when I'm like, Cam Scadaboo's right there.
27:39Please just give the ball to Cam Scadaboo. Just let him fall on the goal line, please.
27:44What are we doing, Jameis? You know, the reason...
27:47If you survive week five and you're looking for a silver lining, I mentioned they play the Saints next week, and maybe
27:53that's the week that he gets it going, but he has had one of the more disappointing seasons for any running back in the NFL.
28:01How many targets did you say for Malik Neighbors?
28:0320 for Malik Neighbors, 13 for Isaiah Likely. So, 33 of the 54 passes went to those two.
28:09That's unbelievable. Vintage Jameis Winston game there. I mean, just he kept both teams in this game.
28:13Down to the jawing with Darnell Mooney, the whole thing.
28:16So good. Top to bottom. Jaden Daniels. This was awesome to see.
28:20Yes. Jaden Daniels, the end of the game was obviously a massive flub, but he was really efficient as a passer.
28:2617 for 25 for 199 yards. But more importantly, nine rushes, 103 yards, two rushing touchdowns.
28:31So, Jaden Daniels currently quarterback two for the week.
28:33That's pending Monday Night Football. Besides Jaden, though, nobody in this Washington offense, week in and week out, is the kind of
28:40player that you're like, I'm definitely trusting you. Right?
28:42No Stephon Diggs yesterday. And Terry McLaurin, 12.2 fantasy points.
28:45Fine. Not great. Been kind of a ho-hum season for Terry, for sure.
28:49Bill Krosky-Meritt had a long rushing touchdown, but do you really want Bill Krosky-Meritt as your go-to running back?
28:55I started him because I had to. Yeah. And I got lucky he got in the end zone this last week.
29:01That's what I was hoping for. It's zero targets yesterday for Bill Krosky-Meritt.
29:04So, it was great to see Jaden bounce back, but the commanders, for the most part, a stay away offense.
29:10Even if Jaden Daniels is banged up, even if you're concerned about the elbow, if he is healthy and out there on
29:17the field, this is the kind of game that he can deliver.
29:20Yeah. I don't feel uncomfortable about playing Jaden Daniels.
29:23There's a chance with him or any quarterback that halfway through a game, he gets hurt and he may...
29:28But like, I'm not going to have that fear in my head as I'm starting Jaden Daniels.
29:33This is why he is your starting quarterback. Monday Night Football next week at San Francisco for Jaden and the commanders.
29:39Let's go to the Bears and the Packers, Liz.
29:42I'm sorry you have to do this. I was going to say, do we have to?
29:47Yikes. Well, I'm just going to get the score out of the way.
29:51It was Packers 31, Bears 7. Let's start with some positives, at least from a fantasy perspective.
29:55I am absolutely loving this concentrated target tree from Green Bay.
29:59We haven't seen it in a minute, and it is legit.
30:02Christian Watson led the team in looks and receiving yards.
30:05He caught 6 of 8 for 143. I like to call that, and I love you.
30:09And two touchdowns. That was good for 32.3 fantasy points.
30:12Second time all season, by the way, he's cleared 30 fantasy points.
30:16The last time was week one against another division opponent.
30:19The Vikings, also impressive when we're talking about Brian Flores' defense.
30:22Yes. Yes? You're looking at me quizzically? Yeah, I am.
30:25Why? I'm going to let you finish your sentence.
30:28Why is 143 I love you? One letter for I.
30:30Four for love. Oh my gosh, guys. That's so cute.
30:33You didn't know that? No. I like said it on last night's show, and you didn't bring it up until right now.
30:40Yeah. Okay. Oh, you're just like she's- Well, I didn't want to look silly on last night's show, so I decided to wait until today.
30:47So you made a clown of yourself in front of fields.
30:50In front of fields. Yes, exactly. You know what?
30:53It was golden vulnerability, and Matthew was also golden, even though he had one fewer target than Christian Watson.
30:58He converted six of seven for 123. That is not, and I love you.
31:02No. That's an IU, I don't know what you, for 20.3 fantasy points.
31:06There you go. I to you. I to you.
31:09He has managed seven or more targets in four of his first five games.
31:13He's also cleared 100 yards in two of five efforts.
31:16Now, the debate between which one of these is the team's true number one, I don't care about.
31:21Watson's going to see more of the high value looks.
31:24Probably golden will see more overall looks. Fine if you drafted both of them, especially given where you drafted them.
31:30And good matchup next Sunday against the Cowboys. That is true, too.
31:33Backfield struggle just in terms of efficiency, as we've seen, averaging just 2.7 yards per carry as a whole.
31:39But Marshawn Lloyd, little tiny shout out, did manage two rushing scores on 10 totes.
31:43First time he scored since week two, and that was at the Jets.
31:47I like the matchup for him, especially with those teams on a bye that we mentioned.
31:52People having volatility and question marks at the running back position.
31:55He might be someone that you roll out. Jordan Love recorded his best fantasy outing of the season, 25.3 fantasy points.
32:01He cleared 360 passing yards and tossed two touchdowns.
32:04Looked good. All right, so that's the good stuff.
32:06Okay. Let's talk about the Bears. We'll be quick here.
32:09Luther Burden led the team in targets. He converted four of six for 47 receiving yards.
32:14Romo Dunze only managed three catches and 40 receiving yards on nine looks.
32:18I hate that. Colston Loveland caught two of five for 19 receiving yards.
32:21DeAndre Swift was the star again. It needs to be stated, obviously, that Kyle Monongai was sidelined for this one.
32:27He eked out 43 rushing yards and a score on nine carries.
32:31Also managed four catches and 30 yards through the air.
32:34That was good for 17.3 fantasy points. Caleb Williams, please come back soon.
32:37Let me ask you this question, guys. With how bad the Bears offense looks right now and knowing that Caleb Williams is
32:44coming back, would you put in by low offers on some of these guys because managers are like, I want out, I want out.
32:51But we think something better is on the horizon with the QB returning?
32:55Definitely possible. Definitely I would. You know what's amazing about the Bears, and Liz, you know this better than probably anybody, is
33:01it just feels like the Bears recently, when they lose, they lose in like spectacular fashion.
33:06It's like we just, they're such a feast or famine team, right?
33:09It's not like, hey, you know, like the Minnesota game, which Caleb got hurt in.
33:14It was like a total no-show offensive effort. And then the other three games, they've been really good on offense, right?
33:20The Case Keenum game and last week Tyson Bajan and week one against the Panthers.
33:24So a hard team to figure out, but it sounds like Caleb Williams has a real chance to play next week against the Falcons.
33:31They then play on Thursday night against the Patriots.
33:34So two big opportunities in a short period of time for the Bears to kind of get this offense rolling.
33:39All right, next one here, Field Yates, Browns, and Jets.
33:42We can probably be pretty quick on this one.
33:45We can. The Jets get a good win. The Jets are now two and three.
33:49And coming into the season, there was one thing and one thing more so than anything else that we wanted from this Jets offense.
33:56Geno Smith, keep Garrett Wilson afloat. Yes, sir. Well, 11 of his 30 passing attempts went to Garrett Wilson.
34:02Seven catches, 104 yards and a touchdown. Wilson looked awesome yesterday.
34:05As did his teammate, Braylon Allen. Yeah, he did.
34:08Was playing all the snaps without Brees Hall. He had 24 rushes for 116 yards.
34:12He had zero receiving yards, but he found the end zone.
34:15So he is currently RB6 on the day. They put the Patriots next week, a very tough run defense.
34:21And if Brees Hall is back, then Braylon Allen goes back to zero value.
34:25But he has done a more than serviceable job filling in for Brees Hall since Hall hurt himself a couple of weeks back.
34:32The Browns are just a flat mess right now in the backfield.
34:35So Quinchon Judkins left the game yesterday. He had 14 rushes for 44 yards.
34:39He had three catches for six yards. He got hurt.
34:42He left the stadium in a walking boot. Certainly sounds like missing time is on the table.
34:47Our guy, Raheem Sanders, he steps into a bigger role.
34:50He has three carries. He runs nine routes. He's been a part of this Browns offense, kind of a pass catcher.
34:56He leaves the game because of a hip injury.
34:59The Browns are down to literally practice squad level players in the backfield right now.
35:03So it would be great to have more information later today from Todd Munkin on the severity of those running back injuries.
35:10But the Browns, a team that we've already dealt with injury attrition.
35:13Dylan Sampson missed one game. We've already been dealing with injury attrition there in the backfield.
35:18Even more of it coming our way for the Browns.
35:21Feels like the player that you most want to roster right now for the Cleveland Browns in fantasy is actually Denzel Boston.
35:27Good game for him. Three for 46 and a touchdown.
35:3013.6 fantasy points. Harold Fannin Jr. has just 1.4 fantasy points.
35:33Fannin kind of bailed out last week as well with a short touchdown.
35:37Casey Concepcion got hurt. He had a concussion. So he was out for much of the game.
35:42Denzel Boston, the most exciting player on this Browns young offense.
35:45Disappointing. Kind of an egg laid by the Browns who had a chance to have a four-game winning streak for the first time in a few years.
35:53So Cleveland, with that backfield uncertainty, the best player for fantasy, Quinchan Judkins.
35:57Now a big cloud hanging over him for Week 6.
36:00Is there any truth to the rumor field that NFL Fantasy Hall of Famer Peyton Hillis is thinking about signing with this
36:06team in order to roll it out? So thin right now for the Browns.
36:10I think the next man up would be Jared Patterson.
36:13We'll have to check to see where Dylan Sampson's at health-wise.
36:16That's right. But it is brutal right now. The Browns probably scouring the waiver wire this week for backfield options.
36:22Doesn't feel great. Speaking of scouring the waiver wire for backfield options, if I've got Chase Brown, that's felt great.
36:28I mean, last week wasn't too bad, but this week, Liz, this was the Dolphins.
36:32Yeah, let's get into Bengals-Dolphins. Bengals did come away victorious in this one, 31-24.
36:36Joe Burrow I want to start with, though. Sure.
36:39Let's start at the top, okay? He only threw for 190 yards, but he tossed four touchdowns.
36:44Amazing. Managing nearly 25 fantasy points. Those touchdowns went to, unsurprisingly, Jamar Chase.
36:48More surprisingly, Samaje Pirine. And even more surprisingly, Tanner Hudson and then Mike Gusecki gets a score in a revenge game against his old team.
36:55So that was nice. Let's start with Jamar Chase.
36:58I don't think anyone's... There were questions about whether or not he would play because he was in the protocol.
37:03He came in healthy, converted 6 of 10. We love double-digit targets.
37:0777 receiving yards in that aforementioned touchdown. Nearly 20 fantasy points in this one.
37:11He is automatic. Chase Brown, this is... There's a lot in this matchup that's been triggering you.
37:16We'll start with Cincinnati. Chase Brown, your guy. My guy.
37:19Two years in a row, he struggled. He is driving that bus, friend.
37:2316 touches for 60 scrimmage yards. 7 fantasy points.
37:25This is now his second single-digit fantasy total over the last three weeks.
37:29And this was supposed to be the game that he smashes.
37:32It's the Miami Dolphins. People don't throw four passing touchdowns against the Dolphins.
37:36They run for four rushing touchdowns. Right, yeah. So how are you feeling moving forward?
37:40Well, how does it sound like I'm feeling? Well, it doesn't feel great.
37:44They are on bye in week 6. Cincinnati is, as is Miami.
37:48Miami, so there's a moment to maybe retool, get things back together.
37:51And then we'll regroup in week 7. There's plenty of time.
37:54Chase Brown, as disappointing as sometimes his games are, he's still on a team, one of the highest scoring teams in the
38:01NFL as a pass-catching running back that's still going to...
38:04Even though, you know, Samadji Piran got the goal line work.
38:07Yeah. You're going to keep rolling him out there, even if there's a disappointing game here and there.
38:12Again, another one of those versatile players. Yep. He didn't do much through the air.
38:17We don't really expect that, right? 15 of 27 for 137 passing yards.
38:20One touchdown, two interceptions. But he did produce on the ground eight carries for 74 rushing yards and a rushing score.
38:26That was good for 18.8 fantasy points. Again, what we wanted out of him, what we thought could be possible.
38:32He's delivering Malik Washington. Just a quick mention. Remains Willis' favorite target.
38:36I double... There you go. Double Malik. I got it.
38:39I got it. I love you both times. He caught, what, six of eight balls for 43 receiving yards, but has yet to find the end zone.
38:47I thought it could really happen in this matchup, given the Bengals' defense.
38:50But finally, let's end on the one bright spot.
38:53Ollie Gordon. I know you're shaking your head because it keeps triggering you.
38:5788 rushing yards and a score on 18 carries.
38:5914.8 fantasy points. He has now managed a rushing touchdown in three straight games.
39:03His third straight effort with 14 or more fantasy points.
39:06This is a sixth round pick doing what Devon Achan couldn't.
39:10Yeah. And I think that is what is so confounding.
39:12Triggering. Triggering. To so many. I don't want to...
39:15Like, I just don't think that the skill set is here for Ollie Gordon to continue this over the course of the season.
39:22I know. That's the thing. You only know what you know.
39:25I just... It's... Did Devon Achan get bad at football?
39:28Did they change something after he got hurt and now they're running...
39:31No, I don't think so. I mean... The difference in skill sets here.
39:35Playing a touch better defensively. A touch. Not a lot.
39:38But a touch better defensively. And... I think teams...
39:41Honestly... Let their guard down against the Dolphins. That's a fair thing.
39:44They're going to win. It's a trap game every week.
39:47Kind of a trap game every week. Yeah. Maybe Devon Achan just kind of got unlucky and Ollie Gordon has gotten lucky.
39:54You know, he's a low-end RB2 week in and week out.
39:57He's getting minimal. I mean, just nothing in the passing game.
40:00And that's the thing. He's got to fall into the end zone.
40:03So, with him being able to do this, he's done this because he's gotten into the end zone.
40:09And if he's... He's touchdown dependent. Which is kind of what Devon Achan had turned out to be in the beginning because
40:15he wasn't getting as much of the receiving game work as I had wanted.
40:19Sure. Yep. But how many running backs have we now just said are touchdown dependent?
40:24Well... A lot. Basically 15 of the... We're halfway through the show.
40:27We're halfway through the top. It's 23. It's like Tim Gibbs, B.
40:31John Robinson. That's it. Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, James Cook.
40:33And then it's... They're not catching balls. They're touchdown dependent.
40:36Yeah. There's so many of them. Another touchdown dependent running back.
40:40Unfortunately, got banged up this week in Houston. Texans and Titans.
40:43We can be quick on this one. David Montgomery, unfortunately, got banged up.
40:47Had been struggling and trending the wrong direction, unfortunately, as an RB2 with us.
40:51Obviously, Woody Marks comes in and touches the ball.
40:53Plays every snap. Once David Montgomery gets hurt, he's going to be a very heavily added waiver target this week.
40:59Available in over 50% of leagues. We will spend a lot of time tomorrow talking about him.
41:04CJ Stroud scored 20.9 fantasy points. Back-to-back weeks with over 20 fantasy points.
41:08It helped that he got six points from a rushing touchdown.
41:11Those count. But they count. So we'll see how that works, obviously, moving forward.
41:15But I think the big thing that we... And, you know, Nico is Nico.
41:19Regardless of what he looked like, Nico Collins is going to keep being that guy.
41:24The big news here is that this team traded for Marvin Harrison Jr.
41:27Yeah, baby. Trying to figure out what this is going to look like moving forward.
41:32Obviously, it didn't mean anything for us now. But just opening up a conversation about the offense, guys.
41:37You add Marvin Harrison Jr. If you were a Marvin Harrison Jr.
41:40manager, you're pumped because you're at least, hey, I'm in a new spot.
41:44I have potentially unlocked. Can't get worse. Right. Exactly.
41:47Are you going to wait and see a couple weeks if you are a Marvin Harrison Jr.
41:52manager before you roll him out there? Definitely. Yeah.
41:54Okay. Kind of an unusual week for them, by the way.
41:58He's going all the way to London for his first game.
42:01So he's got to get to Houston today. Got to, like, practice with the team this week.
42:06I'm sure he'll play on Sunday, but I expect a very limited...
42:09I expect a limited role for Marvin Harrison Jr.
42:12But this is where, like, the test going forward is going to be whether Marvin Harrison Jr.
42:17is as advertised skill set-wise. Because if he fails in two separate teams, and I grant you that, like, I wouldn't say that Houston has necessarily been...
42:25This is not going to, like, the LA Rams.
42:27Where it's like, if you go and you play with Sean McVay and you can't get it done there, then it's probably
42:34a you problem, not a Sean McVay problem. He's got a big sample size there.
42:38But we're going to find out about Marvin Harrison Jr.
42:41But the theoretical value he has now in Houston is better than the zero value he has in Arizona.
42:47I'm willing to eat a huge game on my bench because I want to see it before I believe it.
42:52I'm okay with that if it happens with me with Marvin Harrison Jr.
42:56I think that that's the conversation you have to have with yourself.
43:00And, you know, it's interesting because obviously we know this team needed depth at the receiver position.
43:05And with them, maybe not in this effort, but with their defense regressing, their secondary regressing as much as it did, they
43:11will need to be chasing some points. So there is some added boost there, potentially, like Field said perfectly, theoretically, for MHJ.
43:17By the way, this feels like the trade... I get it.
43:21Houston will tell you we made this trade about the long term.
43:24He's a very talented player. This trade becomes much more interesting if the Texans win on Sunday in London against Jackson.
43:30I agree. Because they would then be, you know, just two games back of the Jaguars.
43:35Yep. We'll see what happens with both Indianapolis and Tennessee.
43:38They play each other. So I presume Indianapolis will be 3-3.
43:41But Houston will get right back into the mix with the win on Sunday in London.
43:46On the other side of this one, unfortunately and quickly, Tennessee Titans were awful.
43:50And we thought this was going to be a potential smash spot for Carnell Tate, given what wide receivers had done against the Texans so far.
43:57At least 18 fantasy points. One catch here in this game.
44:01It just didn't look great. I think this is part of what's potentially going to happen in this Titans offense.
44:06You're going to have some weeks where they just don't look great.
44:10You're going to have some boom weeks where Carnell Tate does the things that we looked at.
44:15But I think you're going to be in this spot where even if you feel like this is one of those good
44:21games, this offense isn't as good as some of the others in the NFL.
44:25It's not just going to be as... It's easier to take away a number one when there's a clear number one.
44:31Also... And a struggling quarterback, a streaky quarterback. And Taji Spears had a...
44:35I was just laughing. He had nine catches yesterday.
44:38Yeah, a bunch in the receiving game. But they don't have a fantastic run game either to be able to...
44:44To stabilize them. Yeah. So it's a tough one right now if you're a Titans fan.
44:48Carnell Tate, the only guy that we are hoping maybe gets back on track.
44:52Well, Wandell Robinson. But I've sort of lost my Wandell Robinson faith through the first five weeks of the season.
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47:18Let's talk about Viking Saints. Oh, I got a back-to-back game.
47:21Sorry, guys. I didn't realize I was back-to-back here.
47:24Vikings and Saints as well. Do you, buddy? Vikings have a buy in week 6 for what it's worth.
47:29As a reminder, Justin Jefferson, 18 fantasy points. You'd love to be able to see that.
47:34Aaron Jones over 100 rushing yards and a touchdown, which is big because they're going on to a buy this week.
47:40And once they come back from a buy, we're going to assume that Jordan Mason at least has a chance to be a part of this backfield again.
47:48Sounds like he will be back in what will be week 7.
47:52Week 7. So I'm not sure that we're going to see Aaron Jones delivering this level of value for our fantasy squads moving forward.
47:59Hopefully you got the last of it here in week 5 and it helped you out.
48:03Kyler didn't look terrible. 18.2 fantasy points as well.
48:06Do you believe that when you look at Kyler Murray, he's someone that you would, I mean, this was against the Saints.
48:12Yes, that's the problem. That's okay. Yes. He could win 80% of his passes.
48:16I wouldn't say that Kyler has been a particularly impressive passer so far this year.
48:21He still struggled downfield is what I was saying.
48:23He could, his legs are back, but you know.
48:26Oh, it's so much. It also was, I would say it was more testament to Justin Jefferson.
48:31The touchdown to Jefferson. There are three defenders all the way around.
48:34Ridiculous play by Jefferson. Probably ill-advised throw by Kyler, but it still works.
48:38I do not have faith in Kyler Murray as my quarterback at all, even with what we saw yesterday.
48:44Through three full healthy games, Kyler has two passing touchdowns so far.
48:47So it doesn't feel great right now with what we're doing.
48:50On the other side of this one, Tyler Shuck, who I think we all love, looked rough.
48:55Awful. Negative fantasy points in this game. Guys, he's quarterback 31 on the week and 28 have played so far.
49:01So Fernando Mendoza and Case Keenum outscored Tyler Shuck.
49:04Case Keenum barely outscored Tyler Shuck. Barely, but yes.
49:06But he did. Yes. I mean, it's preposterous. And we told you, we came into the week and we said, you know what?
49:13Let's talk about the Saints offense and let's see what they're made of this week.
49:18I didn't think we could talk about negative fantasy points.
49:20No. Brian Flores. We saw the matchup. Blitzed him at a 90% rate.
49:24He's a madman. Unbelievable. This is, what I'm going to say is just, it's a throwaway game in my estimation from a fantasy perspective.
49:31I like Tyler Shuck more than this. I like Chris Olave more than this.
49:35I like John Johnson more than this. This game is just a throwaway game.
49:39It was not good against a really tough Vikings defense.
49:42Hopefully better days are ahead. The only thing there that, again, they're kind of a low upside running back room in general,
49:49but Alvin Kamara seeded some snaps yesterday. I wonder if he hit him with the back.
49:53Yeah. Back injury. Kamara's sort of hanging on by a thread as it is.
49:57If it's going to be like that, like if he's still managing this back for the next few weeks, only decreases the
50:04chances of Alvin Kamara having any chance. I know that I'm probably overdoing it with my expectations, but the Saints got to
50:10frigging lean into Travis H when he gets back.
50:13You have to. It's so obvious how much they need an actual running back to help them out on offense.
50:19We'll see whether they do when he is back.
50:21Well, let's hope Kellen Moore takes the note. Let's talk about the Lions, Daniel.
50:25You're Lions and the Cardinals. 45 to 21. Congratulations.
50:28Thank you. That was fun. Dan Campbell's bell cow continued to eat.
50:3225 carries for 151 rushing yards and two touchdowns.
50:34Another five catches on top of that for 56 receiving yards.
50:3737.7 fantasy points. This is his third game in five that have gone over 30 fantasy points.
50:42Absolutely ridiculous. Sonic all the way. Jared Goff also.
50:45I think this has been a bit surprising. He acquitted himself quite well in this matchup.
50:50He threw for a mistake free 271 yards, three touchdowns, 28.9 fantasy points.
50:53Don't look now, but Jared Goff is the QB three.
50:56You had it up in fantasy. I thought you were just saying you love me.
51:01Fantasy points per game. Amen. Amon-Ra St. Brown. We will forgive him for this.
51:05He got going a little bit late, but we'll take it.
51:08He converted six of 11 for 69 receiving yards.
51:11That was good for nearly 13 fantasy points. He's allowed Sam Laporta.
51:14This is one call that I made that actually turned out right heading into this week.
51:19Thank you. He put together another monster effort. Led the team in receiving yards with 88 on five grabs.
51:2419.8 fantasy points. That's three games above 17 fantasy points for Laporta.
51:28Now his back, his hip ain't nothing. He is fine.
51:31And Jamison Williams, some might say that he got lucky.
51:34Others would say that he was due. Only two catches, but both of them in the end zone for a cool 18.7 fantasy points.
51:41This is the JMO coaster, my friend. Also, I looked this up because I wanted to see how involved he was.
51:47James Williams right now, the wide receiver five in routes run just behind Amon Ross St.
51:51Brown. That's out there a bunch and being utilized within that offense.
51:55Jared Goff, 12 passing touchdowns, zero interceptions. Look at the smile out of him.
51:59Plus a rushing touchdown. Plus a rushing touchdown. It was so good.
52:02Which one of our friends in the Michigan men chat is always questioning Jared Goff?
52:07I believe it is Josh is the one. Yes, Josh.
52:10He's a skeptic. Yes, he has been the Jared Goff skeptic.
52:13Is it because Goff definitely needs his mittens when he plays outside?
52:16You know what? He's got mittens right now. I'll take this, man, to start the season.
52:21And obviously when you don't have this rushing upside, what he's doing right now is kind of Matthew Stafford-esque from last year without any legs whatsoever.
52:29But both Matthew Stafford last year and Jared Goff this year, they have the offense that they could do it.
52:35It's just a difficult thing to do. All my hot takes for the year, remember?
52:39Absolutely. And Jared Goff's defense is helping him continue to throw.
52:42So if you did, speaking of the Detroit Lions defense, stream Jacoby Brissett because of the matchup, you were rewarded.
52:48It was not pretty to watch necessarily, but the numbers were the numbers.
52:52He threw the ball 47 times in catch-up mode.
52:54Managed 29 completions for 292 passing yards. Three touchdowns once again.
52:58One interception. Also caught a pass for seven yards.
53:00Sure, why not? Thrown by Michael Wilson. He's the QB six heading into Monday Night Football.
53:05So I was working on my week six quarterback rankings, and I have Bi, who faces the Lions next week, as quarterback three.
53:12That's mean. That is perfect. That's so mean. I mean, I love it.
53:15Yeah, we don't get the Lions to stream again, so we don't get the Vikings to stay away against.
53:21I want my DFS stack this week, and I don't have a DFS stack against Detroit either because of it.
53:27Unsurprisingly, Trey McBride led the Cardinals in targets with 10.
53:30He ended up with nine grabs, 66 receiving yards, and a touchdown.
53:33That's his third score of the season. 21.6 fantasy points.
53:36Somebody, I believe he directed Reservoir Dogs called Tegan Quintanaro.
53:39Yes, Quentin Tarantino. Yes, yes, yes. He hauled in two of Brissette's three touchdowns for 15.5 fantasy points.
53:44What's the fantasy? Okay, fine. Also, he entered Sunday having recorded just two receptions since the beginning of 2023.
53:50Yeah, very normal stuff. The takeaway here is that Detroit continues to be a boon to the tight end position.
53:55Speaking of movies, the Bourne Identity franchise was resuscitated in the desert because Kendrick Bourne made an appearance.
54:01Second in team targets with eight looks. Ended the day with five catches for 70 receiving yards.
54:06Might be the team's new wide receiver, too, with MHJ out the door.
54:09And I don't want to end this on a womp womp.
54:13Yeah, something to keep an eye on. This is a massive story.
54:16Jeremiah Love struggled again. Game script didn't help him, but just 22 rushing yards on 12 totes, that's 1.8 yards.
54:22But isn't it supposed to help him? Yes, I was going to say that because the backup— Well, because of the passing?
54:28Yeah. Yeah. Because Tyler Algier, to me, is not the receiving game back.
54:32If you're down the entire game, I would think Jeremiah Love would be a part of this offense.
54:37So, like, here's the only thing that I'll say about Jeremiah Love.
54:41The only thing that the Cardinals could say right now that would make me feel a little more at ease is, hey,
54:47listen, man, he's really banged up right now. That foot or that ankle is so bad, we just can't tell you about it.
54:54That doesn't seem to be the case. No. But over the past two weeks, Jeremiah Love has negative eight receiving yards.
55:00That's bad. He's yet to reach 20 receiving yards in a game this season.
55:04I posted this on social media, and some people were like, well, we overused the term weapon in pre-draft discourse about running backs.
55:11Okay. I'm not asking for them to line Jeremiah Love up opposite of Michael Wilson and play wide receiver.
55:16No. I'm hoping for positive receiving yards. How did they utilize Jameer Gibbs and Bijon Robinson in their respective offenses?
55:22Very creatively in the passing game. Jameer Gibbs had five catches for 56 yards yesterday, and you don't bat an eyelash.
55:28You're just like, that's what you do when you have a guy like Jameer Gibbs.
55:33What is the point of making this investment in Jeremiah Love?
55:36Bingo. To not utilize, and I get it. Tyler Algier's fine.
55:39Okay. I'm not asking for 30 carries a game for Jeremiah Love.
55:43But even if you're going to use him as a part-time player, wouldn't the part of part-time be the receiving opportunities?
55:49Well, you're not asking for 30 carries, but you might be asking for close to 30 touches.
55:54And I think that's the argument. And the argument also around him is not dissimilar than the one we had about Ashton
56:00Gentey at the top of the show. Yeah. Do you just give him a week to get healthy and figure it out?
56:07Yeah. The Gentey thing seems like a legitimate, like he's really playing through it.
56:11Do you think Love was- Jeremiah Love is like, I think this just might be a really bad offense, but they score
56:17a lot of points in other ways. The broadcast crew was speculating about it quite loudly.
56:22I don't know if you're right if that's an excuse.
56:25The best part of draft, if you're going to take a running back early, you got to get the most out of
56:31that player during the first four to six years of his career.
56:35It's a long ways to go for Jeremiah Love.
56:37You just hope they don't punt on this rookie season.
56:40You mentioned, I mean, when you look at Jameer Gibbs and Bajon Robinson, both running backs who were drafted early in the
56:47first round by their franchises, they are locked in on exactly what Field is talking about.
56:51We are going to find ways to put the balls in the hands of the guys.
56:56Yeah, you got to pay your play. Let's talk about the Broncos and Chargers.
57:00Are we just going to pass on basically both of these entire offenses, guys?
57:04Can we be honest about this? I think, yeah.
57:07I think we'll reach the point where we can just be very succinct about everything involving the Chargers.
57:12Yes. Chargers is super easy. Justin Herbert, I'm out.
57:14I can cut him. It's not even just a bench.
57:17We're done there. From a running back perspective, Kamani Vidal scored a touchdown, got 12.6 fantasy points.
57:22They're utilizing Keaton Mitchell. Sometimes you see some explosive plays out of him.
57:26They're also giving the ball to Omari and Hampton.
57:29It's a full-on committee. All three of them struggle.
57:31I don't want to play any of these guys unless I have to.
57:35I think the question with Omari and Hampton, unfortunately, has veered into this territory.
57:39The role's not going to be good. He played 32% of the snaps yesterday.
57:43The touchdown upside is going to be low. The question is, how good of a player is he?
57:49It's like we've had a few separate opportunities this year where it's like, wow, that was a legitimately really great play by Kamani Vidal.
57:56Why don't we stumble into one of those for Omari and Hampton?
57:59I hear that question. I hear that question. I think about what he did last year and think to myself, boy, I'm
58:05not sure I've seen someone bury an offense as badly as Mike McDaniel has so far.
58:10I hear you. I mean, with the expectations. For our purposes, none of them are worth a squat.
58:15Nothing. Not one Charger is worth discussing until further notice.
58:18Even Lad McConkie. The only way that I'd play Lad McConkie is if he was completely fully healthy, full practice, full practice, full practice, full practice.
58:26If we got transparency about that. Correct. And I'm on bye weeks.
58:29Yes. And I have to then be like, all right, well, I guess I have to start him, but at least he's fully healthy in this matchup.
58:37He was active and played zero snaps yesterday, which Adam Schefter kind of warned us.
58:42But anyways, Chargers out. Let's just not bring up the Chargers until further notice.
58:46They put the Chiefs out and Denver's roulette. Yeah.
58:48Honest. Bo Nix under 14 and a half fantasy points in all about one game so far this year.
58:54I don't want to start him if I don't have to.
58:57The running back situations. This is one of the running back dead zones that we've talked about.
59:02I know Dobbins got in the end zone, but it took him getting into the end zone.
59:07But it took him getting in the end zone.
59:10And then you look at the other two guys.
59:12Cortland Sutton got in the end zone also and finished with what?
59:16You get six points plus a catch. That's seven points just for a touchdown catch.
59:20He finished with 9.8. I'm not saying that Davis Webb was doing a good job, but it's very clear to me that
59:26the biggest problem in Denver was not just the play call.
59:30No. On offense. No, no. We talked about this too.
59:33He was under center. I think Sean Payton had in the first half.
59:36Was it the first half? He had like seven people with carries and nine different players that had like a target or something like that.
59:44It's all bad. It was just spreading around. 16 different players on offense were utilized.
59:48Both of these offenses, the Broncos and the Chargers are, I hope I don't have to start anyone in fantasy.
59:54And if I do, it's because I probably have no other better options on my squad.
59:58But right now we're just in a stay away mode for both these squads.
60:03Agreed on that. The Niners and Seahawks play a great game.
60:06Came down to a measurement of Cooper Cup who was, it was real short on the field.
60:11Ended up being short if the Seahawks had converted.
60:13Maybe they kick Jason Myers' sixth field goal of the day.
60:17But the Niners win 32-29. We talked about Brock Purdy maybe being in a tough spot in this game.
60:2216 points, 16 fantasy points. Not bad. No. Definitely not like a great effort from Brock Purdy.
60:27We told you kind of beware of this. He was helped because they had an 11-yard touchdown drive at the beginning of the game.
60:34Sam Darnold was all over the place. He had two bad interceptions yesterday.
60:38But let's talk about the Niners. Christian McCaffrey just sort of right there in the mix.
60:42It's like a mid-tease, you know, somewhere between, I don't know.
60:46He's not RB1, 2, or 3. He's somewhere between RB4 and on the low end RB6.
60:50Yeah. Right? Just rock steady. 15 receiving yards. I feel less, I understand where you're coming from.
60:55I'm not as... Who would you rather have ahead of him?
60:59Like who's definitely ahead of him amongst running backs?
61:01The two... Jonathan Taylor? No. No. Right? Is it...
61:04KW? KW3? Yes. He's 1, 2, 3. It's B.
61:06John Gibbs. It's Gibbs, B. John, Kenneth Walker III.
61:091, 2, 3. Okay. Whatever order you want. It's not James Cook.
61:12It's not Jonathan Taylor. Wait. You're saying I don't want those people over Christian McCaffrey?
61:17I might want Jonathan... You don't definitively want them over Christian McCaffrey.
61:20I think you don't definitively want them over Christian McCaffrey.
61:23All right. That's fine. I mean... I would rather...
61:26I might rather have Kyron Williams. Right now, I'd rather have Derrick Henry.
61:30Okay. Interesting. All right. Well, CMC, right there, close to it.
61:33We don't have to... Litigate it. The bottom line is CMC once again yesterday.
61:37Over 17 fantasy points. He had played 80% of the snaps.
61:40When games matter, Christian McCaffrey is going to play.
61:43Absolutely. It's a difficult matchup. Yes. Very tough matchup.
61:45Mike Evans turned the clock back yesterday. He was ridiculous.
61:4826.3 fantasy points. I know. That was amazing. Sorry.
61:51All-time taunt of Trayvon Diggs. It's been great. One of the great values.
61:55And he's the only man standing... Checking the back of his jersey.
61:58Yeah. ...of this Niners wide receiver room. Debo Samuel gets hurt.
62:01Hamstring injury. Already ruled out. Brandon Cook's had a touchdown yesterday.
62:05People were like, wait, you're on the Niners? So, George Kittle had kind of a dud yesterday.
62:10Five for 24 is it. I think you're an illness.
62:12Yeah. But, guys, Mike Evans, amazing. For the Niners, it's going to be CMC.
62:17It's going to be Purdy. It's going to be Kittle.
62:19And with all the injuries, it's going to be Mike Evans next week.
62:23Seahawks. We've got a problem here. The problem is not Jackson Smith and Jigba.
62:27He was awesome once again. Five for 102 with a touchdown.
62:31Also had play. It almost looked like a Sam Darnold pass, but it was ruled a rush.
62:36This could have easily been an extra... It could have been 23.8 points as opposed to 22.8 points.
62:41He's great. They play on Thursday night. Wouldn't surprise me if JSN is a DNP today and tomorrow in practice because he
62:47was clearly battling something with his ankle yesterday. Fox broadcast Brady and Burkhart were all over this.
62:52And he kept... They said he was refusing medical attention, not sounding the alarms for Thursday night and not playing.
62:58But if you see DNP, DNP, don't be shocked.
63:01The Seahawks have a backfield problem. Nobody come on the ball.
63:04I mean, guys, it was a comedy of errors yesterday.
63:07George Helani had two fumbles? He had one fumble that he recovered, one that he did not recover, and the Niners recovered
63:13it for a touchdown at the end of the first half.
63:16I don't know where the answers come from, whether Zach Charbonnet comes back soon, but it's still until Zach Charbonnet or somebody
63:23else has added the Emmanuel Wilson show, he ends up with 13.2 fantasy points.
63:27But for the Seahawks, really, it's Emmanuel Wilson, and then it's JSN.
63:30It's JSN. It's JSN, right? And then it's Emmanuel Wilson on the periphery.
63:34So no major surprises there for Seattle otherwise. Yep.
63:37Let's talk about Ravens and Falcons, my friend. Fun finish to the night last year.
63:41Very fun finish. Snoop Huntley, guys, had a, I mean, first off, looks great running the ball, but that man can throw some piss missiles.
63:48Let me tell you, 24 fantasy points. Absolutely crushes in this one.
63:52If you got Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry had 102 receiving yards.
63:55Does that say a receiving touchdown next to his box score?
63:58It sure does. Yes, it does. We love it when that happens with big Derrick Henry.
64:03Tyler Huntley honestly looked fantastic. 24 for 32, 201 passing yards, two passing touchdowns, plus a rushing touchdown.
64:08I mean, this is like, this is everything you could ever want.
64:12He got Zay Flowers involved, which as a part of it, the two guys that we want to make sure are still involved.
64:18If there's not Lamar Jackson, it's Zay Flowers and Derrick Henry.
64:22Both of those guys still eight. We love that.
64:24And Snoop, if for some reason he has to roll it back and Lamar misses more time, give me a little bit
64:31more excitement to potentially utilize him as a streaming option in upcoming weeks.
64:34I think I almost, my eyes were receiving me for a while, but I think I almost saw Kyle Pitts score a touchdown last night.
64:42It was somebody that looked like him. You did see Kyle Pitts score a touchdown.
64:46First of the season. It's true. Wow. It's true.
64:49First touchdown of the season. Didn't love it for Atlanta because I did sort of want a little bit more to go towards our guy Drake London.
64:57I did want a little bit more. What do you get, 9?
65:00118 receiving errors. Yeah, but did he get in the end zone?
65:04No. Okay, well I wanted him to be the one.
65:06118 still. Okay. Were you down by like 22?
65:09You needed a 22. I need, you need a little bit more than just that.
65:13Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hard to argue with what Drake London did last night.
65:17Yeah, he really crushed. He needed more there. The biggest problem is that Michael Penix Jr.
65:22might be out next week against the Bears. MRI on his ribs scheduled for today.
65:26Tua came in and overtime, unfortunately, threw an interception right off the bat.
65:30Right to Kyle Hamilton. Yeah, it wasn't great, unfortunately.
65:33That is going to potentially impact the way that we feel about these players, but I don't think it's going to impact
65:39the way that I'm going to rank either Bijan Robinson or Drake London if Michael Penix can't go.
65:44When I say that, I'm still going to be starting.
65:47It'll impact the way I start. I rank Drake London.
65:50It will not impact whether or not I play Drake London.
65:53That's a better way to say that. Yeah. That's fair.
65:56Yeah. Bijan, and the thing about Bijan is that he had 15.8 fantasy points last night, which is a totally passable number.
66:03The problem with Bijan now, and this goes to Jameer Gibbs on the other side as well, is that it's no longer
66:09measuring whether 15.8 fantasy points is okay or not.
66:12It's not 30. Right. Did the other guy, did the other mutant go for 30 or not?
66:17And when one of them goes for 37.7, the other one goes for 15.8, you're like, God damn it.
66:22I should have taken the other guy. 16 fantasy points?
66:25Yeah. Meanwhile, we're sitting here and we're like, yeah, you know, like Chase Bryant, he could probably get you 12 next week.
66:31Maybe Scadaboo gets you 10. It's like, oh, Bijan, only 15.8.
66:35It's amazing. So it's a funny game we play.
66:37Bijan will be fine. He looked awesome once again last night.
66:41As he always does. Multiple explosive runs. Just didn't find the end zone.
66:44Yep. Going to definitely await word on that MRI, obviously, and see what that means for this Falcons offense.
66:50Guys, let's talk about Monday Night Football. Yep. Bills and Rams in this one.
66:54A couple of lineup locks. And I mean, I would think, obviously, we got Josh Allen, lineup lock.
66:59James Cook, lineup lock. DJ Moore is not 100%.
67:02We're still waiting for some official word on that.
67:04Obviously, we're at the point now where it's Monday Night Football.
67:08You're probably past the, I might have someone else to roll if I don't go with DJ Moore.
67:13Mike Clay suggested a Colby Parkinson pit it. Potential tight end.
67:16Yeah. Or Keon Coleman if you added him off waivers.
67:19But we'll see on DJ Moore. He traveled. That's a good sign.
67:22Yes. But it sounds like this one's still up in the air, truly.
67:26Yep. 6.50 is when you'll find out for certain on DJ Moore.
67:30And if you are a Keon Coleman manager that was hoping that you could start him and DJ Moore wouldn't go, all
67:36you can do is just continue to hope. If Keon Coleman, I'm sorry, if DJ Moore is out, Keon Coleman's in.
67:42Like, he's a top 30 wide receiver player. Well, you might not have a choice because it's Monday Night Football.
67:48But yes, yes. You would feel a lot better about your Keon Coleman shares.
67:52For the Rams offense, it's as chalk as it can get.
67:55You're just starting Puka, you're just starting Devante Adams, you're just starting.
67:59Ryan Williams. And then who's the other fourth one?
68:02Matthew Stafford. Well, if you have to. Yeah. I think Stafford in this matchup.
68:06I mean, Drake May was quarterback one against the Bills last week.
68:09Over under 54 and a half. I mean, we're expecting a lot of points in this one.
68:14That's fair. I didn't start Matthew Stafford. Maybe I just had better quarterback options.
68:18You might have, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying if you have Matthew Stafford and you were considering him, it's not because you've screwed up the quarterback position.
68:26This is a legitimately good week to be starting Matthew Stafford.
68:29Do you remember who you took in this one?
68:32I don't. I think I took the Rams, but I don't recall.
68:35You took the Rams. Okay. I took the Rams.
68:38Liz, speaking on behalf of Mike Clay, are you going with the Rams or Bills in this one?
68:43They are three-point favorites at home. I'm taking the Rams.
68:46All right. Mike actually picked the Bills, right? Mike did pick the Bills, yes.
68:50Mike picked the Bills. So one of us will be right.
68:53That's why we call it an upgrade. Any Monday Night Miracles you guys need tonight?
68:58Yes, I need two Monday Night Miracles. Okay. In order to get a dub against Tyler Fulgham, I need both Josh Allen
69:04and Puka Nakua combined to score under 38.5 fantasy points.
69:07That's why it's called a miracle. I prefer to be Tyler.
69:10I would too. That's why it's a miracle. We'll see.
69:13We'll see. This Rams defense is legit. Under 38.5.
69:16So that's what I'm hoping for in this one.
69:18What about you guys? Back-to-back not great. I need Kyron to stay under 25.1 to beat our friend Adam Schefter in the worm.
69:25Okay. I'd say it's like he's definitely not out of it, but that's a good night.
69:30So it's coin flippy. I need 21 points out of James Cook.
69:33Okay. That's doable. That's doable. Maybe he's got to give him the ball at the goal line.
69:38Yes. Not getting a receiving game work. Just get in the end zone.
69:42He's touchdown dependent. Oh, Liz. I'm kidding. That's a good finish to the show, right?
69:46All right. We're going to wrap it up. Thank you so much for hanging out with us.
69:51Have fun watching Monday Night Football. We'll be back tomorrow, Liz and I, with Mike Clay.
69:56I'm sorry, Liz. Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
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