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Top Week 6 Waiver Wire Pickups You Need to Add NOW! | Fantasy Focus

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1 hr 11 min
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Oct 13, 2026
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Tue, October 13, 2026
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Woody MarksMarShawn LloydAaron RodgersDe'Von AchaneJeremiyah LoveJordan LoveOllie Gordon IIBlake CorumBrenton StrangeBryce YoungChristian McCaffreyChristian WatsonCorey KinerD.J. Moore
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Aaron Rodgers

NegativeMatchup7:00

Rodgers has had three straight games with three passing touchdowns and is a top-11 quarterback in three straight weeks. He's available in 80% of leagues, making him a potential streaming option if Jordan Love is unavailable. However, the source notes the matchup against Tampa Bay is 'more difficult' than Love's Dallas matchup, and expresses 'I don't feel great. I don't love it' about Rodgers as a Week 6 option.

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NegativeValue17:51

Available in 80% of leagues but Express Delivery rates him as a secondary streaming option behind Jordan Love and Kirk Cousins; despite three straight games with three passing touchdowns and top-11 finishes (22–23 fantasy points per game), Rodgers required that volume to score and has only 18 rushing yards on the season; weeks one and two showed his floor (16.5 combined fantasy points vs. Atlanta and New England); schedule gets harder going forward and Tampa Bay matchup is more difficult than Dallas.

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Blake Corum

NegativeRole1:35

Corum had some production in the passing game on Monday but remains a distant second to Kyren Williams in the Rams' backfield hierarchy. The source notes that while Corum is 'the more efficient runner,' the separation between him and Williams is 'still pretty massive' and Sean McVay 'prefers Kyron.' Unless Corum gets into the end zone, this is 'the Kyron Williams show.' Corum is described as 'maybe one of the most important insurance packs still in the NFL' due to his upside if he ever gets the role, but the source is not confident he'll get that opportunity.

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Brenton Strange

NegativeMatchup38:04

Brenton Strange is a one-week streaming option this week only because the Falcons have a bye the following week; the source advises against spending FAB on him for a single-week play.

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Bryce Young

NegativeProjection60:00

Bryce Young has been QB7 with 90 fantasy points, 9 total touchdowns, and 1,200 passing yards through five weeks. However, his schedule shifts dramatically from the fourth-easiest to the hardest remaining schedule for quarterbacks. With only 19 rushing yards on the season and limited rushing upside, the speaker projects Young as QB13 rather than QB10 going forward, citing schedule difficulty as the primary sustainability concern.

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Christian McCaffrey

NegativeValue4:00

McCaffrey has knocked out two people in knockout leagues (including Adam Rank), raising questions about his fantasy value despite being a third overall pick. The source notes that while he views McCaffrey as a 'mid to back end first rounder for drafting today,' he would allocate 40-50% of his FAB budget to acquire him off waivers in a knockout league, treating him as a 'set and forget' option for the rest of the season. This suggests McCaffrey remains a reliable asset despite recent underperformance in knockout formats.

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Christian Watson

PositiveUsage62:30

Christian Watson has been extremely productive when healthy, recording 8+ targets in four of five games with at least 14 fantasy points in every game with 8+ targets. He ranks WR3 in fantasy points and WR5 in receiving yards. Watson leads the NFL with 7 end zone targets. However, the speaker worries about touchdown regression (expected touchdowns 2.7 vs. actual 6) and potential volume decrease if the Packers' defense improves and the run game becomes more established.

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Corey Kiner

NegativeRole48:29

Corey Kiner will be involved in the Patriots backfield with Travian Henderson sidelined, but Ramondi Stevenson is expected to be the primary back.

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D.J. Moore

NegativeInjury0:52

Moore was ruled out for Monday's game, and the source notes that the coaching staff will likely want to get him back on the field soon to reduce Josh Allen's rushing volume and injury risk. When Moore returns, the source confirms 'we love him,' indicating he remains a top-tier fantasy asset. The source also notes that the Bills' pass-catching distribution becomes more predictable with Moore in the lineup.

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Dalton Kincaid

NegativeRole0:56

Kincaid had one catch for seven yards in Monday's game, failing to capitalize on DJ Moore's absence. The source notes this was another 'dud' performance, continuing a pattern where the Bills' pass-catching targets are unpredictable and heavily skewed toward running backs when Moore is out.

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David Montgomery

NegativeInjury20:01

David Montgomery is doubtful and probably will not play in Week 6; his absence opens the door for Woody Marks to take over the running back role.

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De'Von Achane

NegativeRole55:06

Devon Achan is being compared to Ollie Gordon; the source initially thought if Achan couldn't do the job, there's no way Gordon could, but has since changed that narrative; Achan would likely be doing better than Gordon if he were healthy, with more involvement in the passing game, as Gordon only has five targets and 14 yards (zero against Cincinnati).

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NegativeRole55:24

Achane underperformed in his first two games before getting injured against Minnesota; backup Ollie Gordon has since outperformed him statistically. The speaker expresses frustration that Achane, whom they identified as one of the best running backs in the NFL pre-season, didn't produce early and is now sidelined, while Gordon—a 6th-round pick—has stepped in and performed better. The speaker believes Achane would be putting up nice numbers over the last three weeks had he remained healthy.

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DK Metcalf

NegativeRole28:34

Metcalf's target ceiling is limited; he is generally going to be closer to 20-22% target share and is utilized heavily near the goal line rather than as a high-volume receiver. This role definition suggests his upside is capped compared to elite wide receiver options.

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Emmett Johnson

PositiveSleeper3:38

Emmett Johnson is the strongest bench stash over Najee Harris; while Harris will consistently project higher due to week-to-week touches (six to seven per game), Johnson is the better stash because if starter Kenneth Walker goes out, Johnson's value increases significantly, whereas Harris only sees a modest bump if his starter is injured due to the Steelers' multi-back approach.

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James Cook

PositiveProjection0:37

Cook had 111 receiving yards on 25 touches with two touchdowns in Monday's overtime game, though he did fumble twice. The source notes he 'looked fantastic' and should remain a mid-range RB1 going forward, with the caveat that the Bills' pass-catching distribution was heavily skewed to running backs (Cook and Ty Johnson combined for 40+ yards while other receivers had under 7 yards each).

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Jared Goff

PositiveProjection61:15

Jared Goff has been unbelievable to start the season, leading the NFL in passing yards and ranking second in passing touchdowns. He has finished top-six in both categories in each of the last four seasons, with points-per-game finishes of 13th, 15th, 7th, and 12th. Despite likely coming back to earth slightly, the speaker projects him as a fringe QB1, especially valuable given bye weeks and the need for streaming options.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveProjection0:50

Daniels is noted as QB2 in rushing yards with 203 yards and two rushing touchdowns, creating a massive gap between him and Josh Allen (121 yards, 1 TD). The source uses this comparison to contextualize Allen's elite rushing production, noting that Daniels has missed time but still maintains the second-best rushing total among quarterbacks.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveRole48:54

Jalen Warren becomes a lineup lock and RB1 in fantasy if Rico Dottle is unavailable for the Steelers; the backfield is described as an easy if-then conversation: if there's no Rico Dottle, then you start Jalen Warren.

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Jeremiyah Love

PositiveProjection49:48

Jeremiah Love, a third-round pick, is RB22 in fantasy points with only one top-20 finish so far; he started slow and came into the season banged up from a preseason injury; the schedule is mid-pack going forward but becomes the second-easiest during the fantasy playoffs, which is why the source has been harping on his potential as a league winner if he ramps up; however, he is not nearly as efficient or flashy as expected, averaging 3.7 yards per carry and 2.6 yards per target with only two targets over the last two games (down from three-plus in the first three games); he is RB19 in fantasy points per reception and RB24 in PPR scoring; the source is hopeful he will rip off a big play to generate momentum and get rolling with a big workload.

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PositiveValue57:37

Among four rookie/young running backs discussed (Love, Ollie Gordon, Omari Hampton, Cam Scadaboo), Love is ranked first by one Express Delivery in terms of fantasy value going forward. The speaker prefers Love over Gordon, Hampton, and Scadaboo based on overall talent and sustainability outlook.

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Jordan Love

PositiveMatchup6:00

Love has had 300+ passing yards in three of five games and two or more passing touchdowns in all five games, but only one top-10 finish. The source identifies him as the top quarterback stream for Week 6 against the Dallas Cowboys, who have allowed zero interceptions, only five sacks, the worst EPA against the pass, 10 passing touchdowns, and the fourth-most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Love is rostered in 47.9% of leagues and the source would 'grab him off of waivers' and 'immediately put him into my starting lineup this week.' The Packers are the third pass-heaviest offense in the NFL with no run game, and Love has cleared 18+ fantasy points in three of five weeks.

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PositiveValue17:51

Available in barely over 50% of leagues; Express Delivery recommends Love as a top waiver wire quarterback pickup for Week 6, positioning him ahead of Aaron Rodgers as the preferred streaming option despite Rodgers' recent three-game stretch with three passing touchdowns and top-11 finishes.

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Josh Allen

PositiveProjection0:26

Allen rushed for 121 yards and a touchdown on Monday Night Football, extending his league-leading rushing production; he's QB1 in rushing yards with a massive gap over Jaden Daniels (203 yards, 2 scores). Despite only 12-of-19 passing for 210 yards, his rushing dominance and dual-threat upside remain elite. The source notes he's a 'Mack truck' when running and should remain a top-tier QB play.

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Keaton Mitchell

PositiveRole46:28

Keaton Mitchell is being used in the pass-catching role for the Chargers backfield, with 12 catches on the season compared to Amarion Hampton's five; Mitchell is RB17 in receptions and is outpacing Hampton in receiving work.

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Keon Coleman

NegativeRole0:52

Coleman had only one catch for seven yards and a touchdown in Monday's game despite DJ Moore being ruled out. The source frames this as a disappointment, noting that the expectation was for Coleman to step up in Moore's absence, but instead the targets went to running backs (Cook and Johnson) and other pass catchers. This reinforces the unpredictability of the Bills' pass-catching distribution when Moore is unavailable.

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Kirk Cousins

NegativeValue19:34

Express Delivery ranks Kirk Cousins ahead of Aaron Rodgers as a streaming option for Week 6; Cousins gets the Bills in Week 6 after being on bye; risk exists if he struggles again like he did last week, which could lead to Mendoza getting the start; Bills are on a short week, which adds to the matchup appeal.

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Kyren Williams

PositiveUsage1:35

Williams had eight targets in Monday's game, described as 'unheard of' usage for him. He averaged 67 receiving yards and is now averaging nearly 22 fantasy points per game, elevating him to RB5 status. The source notes that while Blake Corum is the more efficient runner, Williams' pass-catching work has 'got him to a new level' and Sean McVay clearly prefers him. He's now in the 'top-five conversation' for running backs due to the pass-catching volume.

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MarShawn Lloyd

NegativeMatchup26:14

Dallas allows the seventh most fantasy points to opposing running backs, which is a theoretical good matchup for Lloyd. However, the source is not super interested in him even in this favorable spot, ranking him in the early-to-mid-20s among running backs for Week 6.

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NegativeRole26:14

Lloyd is splitting snaps evenly with Pierre Strong and averaging just 2.8 yards per carry; he's an end-of-bench option at best. His usage would have been higher in the blowout loss to Jacksonville if not for garbage time carries by Caleb Johnson. He has never had 50 yards in a game in his career and is not playing well, making him a desperation flex only if you lost Ollie Gordon.

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NegativeProjection26:14

Lloyd's path to fantasy production is chasing touchdowns; he is not expected to accumulate significant yardage. The source notes that what you're hoping for with Lloyd is exactly what he got last week—a touchdown—because that's how he will make his hay for you.

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NegativeUsage43:34

Lloyd had a two-touchdown game last week but is averaging 2.8 yards per carry and splitting snaps with Pierre Strong; Express Delivery views him as an end-of-bench option rather than a starter, with usage still limited despite the recent scoring.

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Marvin Harrison Jr.

NegativeProjection23:03

Marvin Harrison Jr. has theoretical value based on draft capital, but does not yet have actual demonstrated value; his performance could help lift the Houston Texans offense efficiency under new defensive coordinator D'Amico Ryans.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveUsage62:30

Matthew Golden averages 8.8 targets per game and is tied for second in the NFL with 5 end zone targets. He has posted at least 11.5 fantasy points in every single game this season. Despite the Packers facing the fourth-hardest schedule for receivers going forward, both Golden and Watson remain WR1s in fantasy. Golden's floor is higher than Watson's due to lower touchdown variance, making him more sustainable.

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Matthew Stafford

PositiveProjection0:58

Stafford threw for three passing touchdowns and 'looked fantastic' in Monday's game, continuing a strong stretch with four straight games of 300+ passing yards and nine passing touchdowns over that span. The source notes he's 'unbelievable throwing the football' and expects him to remain in the QB1 conversation given the Rams' upcoming schedule (Arizona, Raiders, Chargers, Washington, Arizona). His performance is framed as a 'chalk' fantasy outcome when the Rams operate at full efficiency.

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Michael Pittman

NegativeRole23:03

Pittman is on injured reserve and has not shown much production when healthy. He lacks trust from Aaron Rodgers, making him unlikely to emerge as a consistent fantasy option in the Packers offense despite being drafted to be a long-term starter or number two receiver.

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Najee Harris

NegativeRole42:14

Najee Harris is not the guy in the Steelers backfield; he will consistently project higher than Emmett Johnson due to week-to-week touches (six to seven per game), but if the starter is injured, Harris only sees a modest bump because the Steelers use multiple backs, whereas Johnson would see a significant value increase.

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Ollie Gordon II

PositiveBreakout44:39

Ollie Gordon, undrafted, is now RB26 in fantasy points; however, excluding his first two games with minimal touches, he scores more points per game than second-round pick Amarion Hampton (RB25), third-round pick Jeremiah Love (RB22), and fifth-round pick Cam Scadaboo (RB21); over his three games as a starter, Gordon has posted three straight weeks inside the top 17 running backs, compared to just two combined top-17 finishes for those three drafted backs; week 3 he had 17 carries for 41 yards plus 3 catches for 14 yards (14.5 PPR points), week 4 against Minnesota he had 9 carries for 100 yards and a touchdown plus 2 catches (18 PPR points), and last week against Cincinnati he had 18 carries for 88 yards and a touchdown (4.9 yards per carry, 14.8 PPR points); the Dolphins running back has the easiest remaining schedule in the league.

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PositiveValue55:24

Undrafted running back who has emerged as a viable fantasy option after being inserted into the Dolphins backfield following Achane's injury. Gordon has performed well statistically over the last three weeks despite limited receiving work (only 5 targets, 14 yards through Week 5). The Dolphins' running back situation now has the easiest remaining schedule in the NFL, which could sustain Gordon's fantasy value going forward, though the speaker notes rushing efficiency concerns and questions whether the receiving work is sustainable.

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Omarion Hampton

NegativeRole46:04

Amarion Hampton, a second-round pick, is RB25 in fantasy points; the Chargers offense is struggling significantly, and Hampton is not playing enough with three running backs in the mix; he has three touchdowns in five games but just one game over 15 touches, averaging 9.9 fantasy points per game with only six targets in five games (unacceptable for a lead back), 3.7 yards per carry, and only five catches on the season compared to Keaton Mitchell's 12 catches; Mitchell is RB17 in receptions while Hampton is RB45; the Chargers offense is described as brutal, and Hampton is not making up for lack of volume with efficiency; if Mike McDaniels loses his job and the offense changes, there might be hope for Hampton, though an adjustment period would be required.

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Pat Freiermuth

PositiveProjection36:58

Friermuth has thrown three-plus touchdowns in three straight games from Ben Roethlisberger, with the Steelers scoring over 90% of their touchdowns through the air; he has four touchdowns in five games, three end zone targets, 11th in targets league-wide, and three carries; his seven targets last week were his most since week 18 of the 2024 season, representing a notable change this year; he managed double-digit fantasy points in three of his last five games, providing consistency at tight end.

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Pierre Strong Jr.

NegativeRole43:57

Strong is splitting snaps with Marshawn Lloyd in the backfield, limiting Lloyd's usage and keeping both backs as bench-only options.

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Puka Nacua

PositiveUsage1:15

Nacua had 24 targets in Monday's game, the most targets since Brandon Marshall had 28 in the early 2000s. He finished with 138 receiving yards and a touchdown (boosted by overtime), but notably set the record for fewest receiving yards with 15+ catches for a non-running back (Austin Eckler had 18 catches for 92 yards). Despite the low yardage-to-catch ratio, the source frames this as elite usage and notes he's 'right up there with JSN' as one of the two best receivers in fantasy. The Rams' game plan was clearly to get the ball in Nacua's hands as much as possible.

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Roman Wilson

NegativeUsage28:10

Roman Wilson is out this week and has flashed only minimally this season. He has received exactly six targets in every game he has played, suggesting limited upside and inconsistent usage in the Packers offense compared to Jimmy Bernard's emerging role.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeInjury42:23

Barkley is dealing with an injury and could return this week or miss additional time; if he misses Week 6, Pierce would see increased touches, but Barkley's potential return limits Pierce's long-term fantasy value.

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Ty Johnson

PositiveUsage0:32

Johnson had four catches for 72 yards in Monday's game and is described as 'very busy' in his pass-catching role. The source notes that the Bills are 'throwing to their running backs more' this season and that Johnson 'has been very busy' in that role, with the team loving him in that capacity. This represents a consistent usage pattern for Johnson in the Bills' offense.

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Will Shipley

NegativeInjury40:43

Shipley is banged up, opening the door for Damian Pierce to take over as the Eagles' running back.

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Woody Marks

NegativeRole20:01

With David Montgomery doubtful and likely out, Woody Marks took over every single snap except for the kneel down in the previous game; Express Delivery will add Marks because he's more valuable than end-of-bench options, but does not want to start him in Week 6 against Jacksonville due to the matchup; Marks gets a 9:30 a.m. morning game; despite the role opportunity, there's risk given the Jacksonville defense and bye week context with multiple running back injuries across the league.

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NegativeProjection20:43

Despite a big workload against Jacksonville, Marks is touchdown-dependent with limited upside; he averaged 9.4 fantasy points per game last year with only one top-10 finish despite 220 touches and five touchdowns total. Jacksonville has allowed the fewest yards to running backs this season and just two rushing scores to the position, making him a risky flex at best in Week 6.

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NegativeRole20:54

Marks will get the bulk of carries with Dario Agamboale serving as a change-of-pace back; however, last season he demonstrated he was not up to the task of being a primary full-time ball carrier, raising questions about his ability to sustain a lead-back role.

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NegativeInjury22:39

Marks is dealing with a groin injury whose duration is uncertain, adding another layer of risk to his Week 6 outlook.

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PositiveRole39:57

If the second running back is removed from the committee, most carries would go to Marks, giving him a bump in opportunity; Express Delivery notes the Houston Texans offense might see efficiency gains, and Marks could have flex value in 12-team leagues, though he's on the flex radar rather than a must-add.

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NegativeRole41:38

Woody Marks is part of a mailbag question comparing him to Ollie Gordon for the rest of the season; the source indicates this is a great question that will be addressed in the next segment.

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0:42Did you know that Monday Night Football went into overtime?
0:45And then in fact it had multiple drives in overtime.
0:48It didn't end early. You don't know because you fell asleep?
0:51I was awake the entire time and then I was punched drunk.
0:54That game finished today. Yes. On East Coast time.
0:56Oh, did it go over midnight? I didn't even notice that.
0:59I didn't even notice. Yeah, absolutely. Mike was too busy calculating EPAs in his head.
1:04Exactly. What else would I be doing? He was eyes deep in his Excel spreadsheets right now.
1:08I don't have a concept of time during the season.
1:11That's fair. It's just one long every minute. Well, we got a bunch of stuff we're going to talk about on today's show.
1:17Not only is it a recap of that crazy Monday Night Football game, but we've got a long shots check-in.
1:23We're going to talk about our knockout leagues, who got eliminated and who might be available there.
1:27Obviously some waiver wire targets here in Week 6.
1:30A bunch of people are out. Four teams on buy.
1:33We'll dive into that. And then we've got a couple of fun games at the end called Is Sustainability the Best Ability?
1:39People say availability is the best ability. In fantasy football, I want people to sustain some of the starts they have.
1:45I would say beyond fantasy football, there are other things.
1:47We're sustaining is really important. I agree with you on that.
1:50Stamina is important. Yes. Yes. Durability on all of those things.
1:53But we're going to talk about that and a couple of guys there.
1:57And then we're going to dive into a quick fab budget game at the very end.
2:01It's going to be a lot of fun, as we sometimes do.
2:05So we will have a good time with that.
2:07Quick shout out to our friends over at Trophy Smack.
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2:15And with that, my friends, let's dive into Monday Night Football.
2:1837 to 34. We got 71 points scored on Monday night.
2:21I see Bonanza. Overhit. Yeah. Josh Allen didn't do great throwing the football, to be honest.
2:26Only 12 of 19 for 210 yards. But you know what he does do really well?
2:30Run. The dude is literally a Mack truck when he is out there as a running quarterback.
2:35121 yards on the ground and a rushing touchdown.
2:37Unbelievable. James Cook looked fantastic as well, outside of the two fumbles that he had.
2:41111 yards, plus 25 touches. Two touchdowns as well in this one.
2:45It was really just those two guys, to be honest.
2:47Before we move on to the Rams, we had the conversation of like, hey, if DJ Moore doesn't go, guess what?
2:53Probably going to be a Keon Coleman game. Well, ish.
2:56Yeah, he did have one catch for seven yards and a touchdown.
2:59It was in the end zone. It was the end zone.
3:02Two targets. One catch. So if it wasn't Keon Coleman, it must have been a Dalton Kincaid game.
3:07No, it wasn't him either. All right. Three duds in a row.
3:10Yeah, one catch for seven yards there. Are there any other pass catcher?
3:14I mean, at this point, after seeing the first five weeks of the season, does it just feel like more of a,
3:20you're going to be guessing which pass catcher, not named DJ Moore, will be the one to step up when he is out?
3:26Yeah, one of the weird changes this year for the Buffalo offense is they're throwing to their running backs more.
3:32And then not James Cook, though. Not James Cook.
3:34I know. We saw Ray Davis have a big play last night.
3:38Ty Johnson has been very busy. Yeah. Four for 72 last night.
3:41They love him in that role. They always have.
3:43And that's not going anywhere. Now, the reason the receivers, the pass catchers didn't do much last night was because the running
3:49backs were leading the team in receiving by far.
3:52No one had, I think it was the fourth quarter, and the two running backs had like 40 plus yards, and no
3:58one else had more than seven yards. It wasn't until that Khalil Shakir.
4:02In overtime. Yeah. So it was kind of an odd one.
4:05Josh Allen only attempted 19 passes because he didn't have to throw it very much.
4:09They were dominating this game on the ground last night.
4:11So, yeah, Allen's fine. We're still firing up Cook as a mid-range RB1.
4:15And when DJ Moore comes back, we love him.
4:17But that's about it right now. Yeah. Josh Allen spread it around to eight different pass catchers.
4:22I do think that the urge for DJ Moore from the coaching staff is going to be moved forward because obviously nobody
4:28wants Josh Allen to be putting his body in jeopardy like that.
4:32We know that there's a history of when that happens, what could also happen in the Super Bowl window at this team's avail.
4:38So you're right when he passes, when he throws the ball just 19 times.
4:42Also, when you look at his rushing stats, we said 121, but can we contextualize that?
4:46Obviously, I think we all know he's the QB one in rushing yards and rushing scores.
4:50Number two is Jaden Daniels, who missed time and has 203 rushing yards and two rushing scores.
4:55So what a gap between one and two. Wow.
4:58He's been unbelievable so far this year. On the other side, let's talk about a non-rushing quarterback.
5:02Matthew Stafford couldn't be more opposite of Josh Allen if he tried, but he was unbelievable throwing the football.
5:08Again, three passing touchdowns looked fantastic. This is what he does when he doesn't utilize his legs.
5:12Pukunukua, unbelievable performance. Very odd game. 24 targets, guys?
5:15The most targets since we saw Brandon Marshall had 28 back in the early 2000s, it feels like.
5:20Is there anything to say about this offense other than when the Rams are operating at the full efficiency that we expect?
5:26This is what you think. It's Pukunukua. It's Devontae Adams.
5:28It's Kyron Williams. It's Matthew Stafford operating at a high level.
5:31It was a pretty chalk performance from a fantasy perspective.
5:34Yeah, it was. Devontae Adams scores the two touchdowns, which he was doing nothing for most of that game.
5:39Their game plan was clearly, we're just going to get the ball in Pukunukua's hands as much as they possibly can.
5:45At one point, he had a stat line that looked like R.J Harvey's last week with the 10 catches for 72 yards.
5:51I was actually keeping tabs on this. He was, before overtime, before overtime started, Pukunukua had set the record for fewest receiving
5:57yards with 15-plus catches all time for a non-running back.
6:00Austin Eckler had like an 18-catch 92-yard game. Wasn't Wandale Robinson in that conversation a couple years ago?
6:05Wandale had one similar earlier in the game, but as Pukunukua kept racking up catches, the yardage just wasn't adding up, and he was still under 100 yards.
6:13So he ended up with 138 and a touchdown because of overtime.
6:16But, yeah, I mean, look, he's right up there with JSN.
6:19Yep. Because obviously the two best receivers in fantasy, no doubt about it.
6:23It's pretty straightforward on Adams, to your point. I think the other one, the other notable here is Kyron Williams, the pass-catching
6:29work has got him to a new level. I mean, he had eight targets.
6:33This is unheard of. He just was never utilized this way.
6:36He's also dominating Blake Horm and carries over the last three weeks.
6:39But not in terms of efficiency. Not in terms of, no.
6:42I think that's, like, what trips people up, though, because Coram is the more efficient runner.
6:46But 67 yards through the air for Kyron Williams.
6:49He's averaging nearly 22 fantasy points per game. I think he's the RB5.
6:52Yeah, and that's kind of where he should be ranked.
6:55That's where I was going with that. He usually was, like, a fringe RB1.
6:59I feel like now he's in that top-five conversation because of the pass-catching.
7:03Coram did some good production in the passing game last night as well.
7:06But it's still, the separation between these two is still pretty massive.
7:09Sean McVay prefers Kyron, and that doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
7:13I love the Rams schedule coming up. Arizona, the Raiders, the Chargers, Washington, and Arizona again.
7:17Like, I'm not really worried about any of those defenses, to be honest.
7:21And I do feel like, as much as I want Blake Coram to be a thing, unless he gets in the end
7:27zone, this is the Kyron Williams show. Maybe one of the most important insurance packs still in the NFL because you know
7:33what he can do if he ever gets that role.
7:36But I'm not sure that we're at the point where you can utilize him as a standalone option yet.
7:41As much as I wish. Yeah, Coram last night was, like, best-case scenario.
7:44Yeah. To get a long catch and then more receiving.
7:47I think they target him, like, three straight plays.
7:50That never happens for Blake Coram. Yeah, it's unheard of.
7:52Of, you want, weeks one and two he had, it was like an even split in carries, which is like, oh, he
7:58thought it might trend that way this year. The gap has just widened massively the last three games.
8:03That NFL meme was so good. It was an office meme.
8:06Oh, man, I missed it. That was a great one.
8:09I love that. This is why you should watch the YouTube chat for early YouTube feed.
8:14When I watch film later of the pod, as I normally do.
8:17Yes, right, right, right. I don't catch it. I appreciate that you were locked in to your analysis and you weren't paying
8:23attention to what was on the screen. Some of us have to work.
8:26Good for you. Yeah, exactly. There you go, Mike.
8:29Here you go. The Rams super team after five weeks.
8:32That's just a good story. Rams and Jets, both two and three, unfortunately.
8:35Rams are better than that. They'll be okay. All right, let's talk about some long shot checks.
8:40Well, anything left for Monday Night Football? Are you guys good with Monday Night Football?
8:44I feel like if you have any of the guys we talked about, you start all of them every single week.
8:50That's not going to change. Only note I had was that Matthew Stafford has thrown for over 300 yards in four straight
8:56games and has nine passing scores over that time.
8:58That's pretty good, Liz. Given the upcoming schedule we expect.
9:01Those numbers just stay steady. Yeah, I'm with you.
9:04Right back on that QB1 conversation. Love it. All right, let's dive into some long shots here.
9:08We had a few. Girl, I had to Google some of these names.
9:12Close as you probably should have to. Oh, boo.
9:14Elijah Higgins had an end zone target. Almost got in the end zone early in the game.
9:19Actually wasn't terrible. Bryce Lance for field. No, did not get in.
9:22Mike, you had Eli Raritan. Yeah, who played a lot in this game.
9:26Had a couple big plays in the game. Just couldn't find the end zone.
9:30That's been the story of our season. We are doing basically what Adam and Field do on Sundays.
9:35Yes. Long shots. That's what we're accidentally doing. We're not getting the touchdowns.
9:38We are getting the target sketches and yardage this season.
9:41I like the counting pick, too. He ran as the number three receiver in that game.
9:45Kind of shared with Brandon Cook. So not bad on the picks.
9:49You did great, Mike. Eli Raritan cleared 10 fantasy points.
9:51Yeah, but we need touchdowns. We need to. Oh, that's what it is.
9:55I went and did all of these numbers. I pretended to be my clay.
9:59And I had a super calculator. And I was like, wow, Mike's really good.
10:03And then I compared them to your projection. I was like, he's even better than he thinks he is.
10:08That's right. That's right. It was really close. Yeah, that's the problem.
10:11We're getting the yards and the targets and the catches.
10:14We need the touchdowns. Yeah, we got close. We'll get there.
10:17We're on the right path. Good process. Bad results.
10:20Absolutely. I'm with you on that one. All right.
10:22Let's talk about some knockout league stuff here really quickly, my friends.
10:25In our knockout league, unfortunately, our good buddy Adam Rank is no longer with us.
10:29In our knockout league. Interesting. He has been knocked out.
10:32I heard he had some words for me after I was knocked out earlier this year on Fantasy Live.
10:37So interesting. Interesting. We did talk about you getting knocked out.
10:40He unfortunately had to start two tight ends. Dalton Kincaid, one of them.
10:44If Dalton Kincaid had done anything without DJ Moore, he probably thought he had a chance.
10:48Once he found out DJ Moore was ruled out, didn't really work out that way.
10:53Chris Olave didn't help either, unfortunately. You know what's interesting?
10:55When I got knocked out, I ate Christian McCaffrey.
10:58It looks like Adam Rank. Oh, isn't that interesting?
11:00Adam Rank added Christian McCaffrey. Third overall pick, potentially?
11:03Third overall pick. Christian McCaffrey is not winning people their knockout leagues?
11:06No, he knocked two people out now. How about that?
11:09You going to make a little bit here? I'm eliminated from that one.
11:12But I am alive in my other two. My other two knockout teams are very good.
11:17So I'm feeling pretty good. Do you have Christian McCaffrey?
11:19I think I am one of them. I believe I do in one of them.
11:24We'll see how that stands. I was going to say, with CMC going on, because you and I feel a certain way.
11:30I know Mike and Field feel a certain way about him.
11:33And I think the industry, you can definitely have one of two thoughts on the way that you look at Christian McCaffrey.
11:39How much would you use of your budget if you know that CMC?
11:42If I had all of them, CMC, I still view him, I would say, as a mid to back end first rounder for drafting today.
11:49So I would say 40 to 50% sort of in that range.
11:52I mean, if you... Because he's a set and forget.
11:55If you're getting him off of waivers for this knockout league, your plan is that you put him in the running back
12:01spot this week and he stays there the rest of the season and never comes out.
12:06Yeah. Depends on how much you've left, of course.
12:08You're always adjusting for that, what is left in the league.
12:11But yeah, I mean, I'd go pretty aggressive, especially if I'm bidding against you two.
12:15Against us? Yeah. Yeah. Because I know your bids will be low.
12:19Luckily for that, we are not bidding against Michael because we're still in the league.
12:23I'll bid in my other leagues. I'll talk with Adam Rank about being mean to you.
12:27Yeah. Well, I'm going to see him today. I'll bring it up on Wednesday.
12:31All right. All right. We'll do mores there with the knockout leagues.
12:34Very excited to see what else we can grab from the knockout leagues.
12:38I don't think I'm going to go after Kyle Pitts in that one, guys.
12:42I'm probably going to leave him on waivers. I don't know.
12:45He's trending up. Don't, Michael. No? No. Honestly, you look at the squad.
12:48He's got CMC, Chris Olave, Lamar Jackson, and Justin Jefferson.
12:51Like, he got screwed that Lamar Jackson was hurt this week.
12:54Get Trevion Henderson too, right? Wait, he didn't use...
12:57Did he not use Jefferson? He started Mekai Lemon this week.
13:00That was a mistake. Maybe. Yeah, I'm not sure.
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14:16Let's look forward. Here in week six, guys. Couple of waiver targets.
14:19This is where we really make our money, guys.
14:22Couple of key players that are on by here in week six.
14:25We got four. No. Lions, Bengals, Vikings, Dolphins. Which means Jameer Gibbs, Jared Goff, Amon Ra.
14:29You also got Sam Laporta and Jameau. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Chase Brown, Tee Higgins, Justin Jefferson.
14:34I hate all of this. Probably don't use Aaron Jones anymore.
14:37Ollie Gordon. There's a handful of guys here that we're going to have to make up for.
14:42So we're going to start at the quarterback spot, guys.
14:44Let's start with Jordan Love, if you don't mind.
14:47I'd love to. I'm just going to bring a couple names to the table.
14:51I want you to tell me yes or no.
14:53If you're interested or not interested off of. Okay.
14:56Interested in adding them off of waivers. Okay, there we go.
14:59I can speak. Jordan Love. Jordan Love's been really good.
15:01Three of his five games, 300 plus passing yards.
15:04All five games. Two or more passing touchdowns. But he only has one top 10 finish.
15:08The thing for me this week is we've seen a lot of volume.
15:12The running game isn't great. He goes up against the Dallas Cowboys this week.
15:16I feel really good about the matchup. Rostered in 47.9% of leagues.
15:19I think that if, for me, I would grab him off of waivers.
15:23And I could immediately put him into my starting lineup this week.
15:26Do you guys feel the same? Yeah. I agree 100%.
15:29This is my favorite J Love right now. Because I'm a little angry with my other J Love at the moment.
15:34But, yeah, look at the... And I'll give you props for this because you talked a lot about it during the offseason.
15:41Once the Josh Jacobs stuff happened, would Green Bay just flip to a very pass-heavy approach?
15:45And they're the third pass-heaviest offense in the NFL.
15:47They have no run game. And they've leaned heavily into the pass.
15:51Yeah, so good call by you. And it has worked out for Jordan Love in the passing game, obviously.
15:56Yep. I will say this. He's doing a very Matthew Stafford-like...
15:59Uh-huh. His production so far, he has negative two rushing yards so far.
16:03That's not great. So he's hurting you there. But he is making up with, like you said, two passing touchdowns in every game this season.
16:09They've also had a hard schedule. I have them with the league's hardest quarterback schedule so far this season.
16:15It is eighth easiest going forward. Wow. And that starts this week, of course, against Dallas.
16:19They have zero interceptions, only five sacks. The worst EPA against the pass.
16:23They've allowed 10 passing touchdowns. And their fourth most fantasy points to quarterback.
16:26So I think if you're looking at the streamer of the week, a quarterback.
16:30Last week it was Jacoby Brissett. This week, Jordan Love.
16:33I agree. He's cleared 15 fan... I'm sorry, he's cleared 18 fantasy points in three of five weeks.
16:38He's coming off his best performance against the Bears, obviously.
16:41Clearing 25 fantasy points. And just again, to contextualize all of the beautiful stats that Mike listed, Dallas Cowboys gave up 14
16:47fantasy points to Jalen Daniels on primetime. So it's obviously gettable.
16:50I think he's probably the number one quarterback stream at the position.
16:53And given what you're saying, not just a stream, but if you add him this week and he looks good with the matchups that he has...
17:00And the rest of the season's running. Yeah, I feel like he might be a guy that he just becomes your QB2
17:06just sitting on the back of your bench for if you ever need him.
17:10Yeah, don't forget, he's not an RBD. He's a negative running back.
17:13Yeah, he's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
17:16He just has been in a system that really protects its defense and has been very conservative.
17:21Matt LaFleur's offense moves at the slowest pace of anyone in the NFL, but now he's actually throwing the ball more.
17:26So that could get him to the next level.
17:29I do wonder, and I know we're going to talk about some of the...
17:33A pair of his pass catchers a little bit later, but I do wonder if and when Josh Jacobs comes back and the run game becomes more efficient.
17:40And maybe once some of the defensive pieces start to get healthier if that passing production dips.
17:45But we like to live in the present. That's right.
17:48It's a head-to-head, week-to-week game. That's right. So for week six, yes.
17:51If you can't grab Jordan Love, the other quarterback I would look at, which I can't believe I'm going to say this, is Aaron Rodgers.
17:58Yes. Honestly, three straight games with three passing touchdowns, guys.
18:01Three straight games as a top 11 quarterback. He's been throwing the ball quite a bit more than I expected this year.
18:07Again, this is probably more of like a one-week streaming option than maybe I would think of for Jordan Love.
18:12But how do you feel about Aaron Rodgers as an option in case you can't grab Love off the waivers this week?
18:18I mean, I don't feel great. I don't love it.
18:21I mean, I also think the matchup is more difficult at Tampa Bay.
18:25Obviously, the Dallas matchup is. But yes, Aaron Rodgers is available in 80% of leagues.
18:29Love only available in barely over 50% of leagues.
18:31So this might be a situation where the choice is made for you.
18:35A lot of people in our chat right now are saying, you know what?
18:39I love Jordan Love, but he is rostered in the league that I'm in already.
18:43So give me another option. Yeah, he's available in half of leagues right now.
18:47So Love might be out there. Maybe he's not.
18:49But I don't think Rodgers, I think he could probably do a little better for a streaming option.
18:54Yes, he has had all these touchdowns over the last few weeks.
18:57He's scored a ton of touchdowns through the air this season.
19:0191% that's highest in the NFL. But he's been in the 22 to 23 fantasy point range in all three of those games.
19:07So that's what it's taken. It's taken three passing touchdowns and big yardage to get there.
19:11He has 18 rushing yards on this season. He's not going to help you out there.
19:16Remember, we saw what you're usually going to get from Rodgers in weeks one and two when he had a combined 16.5
19:22fantasy points against Atlanta and New England. The schedule gets harder going forward for them now.
19:26And I agree with you. I think this is more of a neutral matchup than an easy matchup.
19:31So I think he could probably do better. Also, Kirk Cousins.
19:34I know we forgot about him last week because he was on bye.
19:38He gets the bills in week six. So if we're going to stream, I would have him ranked ahead of Rodgers.
19:43Yeah, Cousins over Rodgers. The risk with Cousins right now is if he struggles again like he did last week, he'll get the hook for Mendoza soon.
19:51We also see the bills in a short week though.
19:54Yeah. Yeah. No, good call. Yeah. Like the matchup.
19:56Let's talk about some running backs, guys. To be honest, we're going to have some guys that are going to start here.
20:02And I don't really like any of them, if we can be honest.
20:06Just for me, I don't like any of them.
20:08David Montgomery. Doubtful. Probably not going to play in this one.
20:11We're assuming once he went out, Woody Marks took over every single snap except for the kneel down.
20:16So he was the running back that was back there taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars this week, which is a 9.30 a.m.
20:22game. As a reminder, it is the morning game.
20:25I don't think that I really, I mean, I'm going to add Woody Marks because he's more valuable than whoever's at the
20:31end of my bench, but I don't really want to start him this week.
20:35Because of the matchup. Because of the matchup against Jacksonville.
20:37Do you guys feel the same way where it's if David Montgomery is out, he absolutely needs to be added, but would
20:43you be looking at him as someone you want to play this week?
20:47The thing is, there's four teams on a bye, a lot of running back injuries.
20:51I think that gets him into the flex conversation, but I agree.
20:54There's some risk here. I mean, last year he was the lead back for a lot of the season.
21:00There's a lot of volume, but he had 220 touches last year.
21:03He averaged 9.4 fantasy points per game. Only had five touchdowns.
21:06So one top 10. He had one top 10 the whole last season.
21:10And now, of course, as you mentioned, you're playing Jacksonville, allowing two and a half yards per carry, and they've allowed the
21:16fewest yards to running back so far this season.
21:18So he wasn't good in this role last year.
21:21Correct? Yes, he's going to have a big workload in this one.
21:24Dario Agamboale is on the roster. He'll get some run as well as a change of pace, but I think at best he's a flex option.
21:31There's just not much upside here. I push back on that because in my mind, and you might think about it differently,
21:37with the state of the running back position, I'm not flexing basically any running back that would be in the flex radar because they're so awful.
21:44I would almost always default to a wide receiver given what wide receiver could be in flex.
21:49Because by the time we get to the, he might be a flex option for you, I don't want to start that running back.
21:55I got to have a wide receiver that's projected to get more points than that.
22:00I hope so. More often than not. So while I understand what you're saying, that you might have to do it, I
22:06don't think that in a good lineup, you're not playing Woody Marks this week.
22:10I think that running backs in Mike's defense have a tendency to have the goal line equity in a way that obviously wide receivers don't.
22:16So if you're hedging those bets, and how many times yesterday did we say halfway through the show that even, that every
22:22running back we were talking about was touchdown dependent, right?
22:25So, and I think what we're hearing right now, also looking at Marks' last season, he didn't, he showed that he was
22:31not necessarily up to the task of being a primary ball carrier, if you will.
22:35Full time. And so if he is now running, if he is touchdown dependent and facing the Jags, a team that's allowed
22:41just two rushing scores to the running back position, that is where I would start to hedge.
22:46But I do think it's matchup dependent. And we have to imagine that, we know this defense, we saw it last week,
22:52starting to get a little bit better, right? D'Amico Ryans is taking over.
22:56So there is a lift here. It's maybe not astronomically quick like we would like, but for streaming purposes, we wouldn't like it at all.
23:03But regardless, that should help the efficiency, right? And if Marvin Harrison Jr.
23:06has any of the theoretical, to use Fields term, value that we saw, then maybe this offense starts to get a little bit better as well.
23:13And what does that mean for Marks, right? I do think he's going to continue to like, have the ball.
23:19We don't know how long this groin injury is going to linger for Marks.
23:23Is theoretical a field term? Well, no. He said yesterday, if you would listen to the show, Mike, that MHJ...
23:28I was busy. I had an off day. I was napping.
23:31What else? MHJ... I subbed in for you. That MHJ...
23:34And happily, I'm glad you enjoyed your day. That MHJ has theoretical value, right?
23:38He doesn't have actual value. We don't know yet, but there is theoretical value based on the draft capital, et cetera, et cetera.
23:44He didn't make up the word. No. Oh, okay.
23:47I never... I'm not used to him using big words.
23:49That's true. That's true. I didn't know that was a thing.
23:52Anyway, I think that the Houston Texans offense might be in for a boost in efficiency.
23:57And as much as I was on the other side of it, if you take away the second running back of the
24:03potential committee and then it mostly all goes to Woody Marks, that does give him a little bit more of a bump because of that.
24:10And by the way, remember, four teams on a bye.
24:12Wide receiver has been kind of a mess in the middle area.
24:16So if you look at like the mid-30s at receiver this week, we're talking like Stephon Diggs at San Francisco.
24:21McConkie, who's struggling at the Chiefs, who have been terrific.
24:24Jalen Waddell has struggled. He gets Seattle. Downs. Trey Tucker.
24:27Xavier Worthy. Keenan Allen. Aidy Mitchell, if he comes back.
24:30I mean, Jacoby Myers. So that's why I think you're looking at the touchdown equity.
24:34These are your flex decisions, especially in 12-team leagues.
24:36He could have some value. But anyway, I think we made our point.
24:40Let's move ahead. Let's talk about one more. Two more running backs here.
24:43Damian Pierce going to be the running back for the Philadelphia Eagles after Will Shipley got banged up.
24:48Yeah, unfortunately. They said, I think, I don't know if it was you or if it was Field that said the Eagles wanted to keep it a secret.
24:56They didn't want anyone to know that Damian Pierce was on their practice squad because they think they have a real NFL running back.
25:03That real NFL running back had 11 carries for 14 yards.
25:06That was his highest touch game since week 18 of 2024.
25:09Yeah, it was not good. He had 16 opportunities and at 12 yards in that game.
25:13They were playing Jacksonville, who we just mentioned, very good against running backs.
25:17They get the Panthers this week. They're allowing 5.4 yards per carry to running backs.
25:21That is highest in the NFL. So better matchup.
25:23The Panthers have been better since that. A lot of that was the week one game against Chicago to running back.
25:29So they've been a little bit better as of late.
25:32But this is one of them plays where it's just a matter of if Barkley's out, he might get 18 touches in this game.
25:38So it's very much like Woody Marks where he's on the flex radar.
25:42But remember, Saquon Barkley could return this week. So this might be, it might not matter.
25:46If you, is Damien Pierce more valuable than the last person on your roster going into waivers tonight?
25:51I think it depends on your circumstances. If you feel like your starting lineup's not affected by buys and injuries and it's
25:57filled out, I wouldn't even bother with Pierce because if you're not going to start him anyway, there's no long-term value.
26:03Exactly right. Yeah. Barkley, if he's out one more a week, which again, he could play this week, but if he's not,
26:09it's at the most this week and that's it.
26:12Okay. I would imagine. That's how I feel too.
26:14One more really quickly, Marshawn Lloyd at least did some things this last week, guys, even though we talked about how it has been the pass catchers.
26:21Is there anything going up against Dallas this week coming off of a two-touchdown game where you're like, all right, I might
26:28add him this week just to stream him with all the other running backs we talked about?
26:32I mean, I think he's an end-to-bench guy right now.
26:35I don't think I want to start him yet.
26:37He's still averaging 2.8 yards per carry and split snaps with Pierre Strong in this one.
26:42His usage would have been a little higher if it wasn't a blowout because everything from Caleb Johnson who had seven carries was to finish the game.
26:49He didn't know. He was playing zero snaps until late in that game.
26:53So right now, they're going with Lloyd and Pierre Strong, but again, it was an even split in snaps.
26:58They're using multiple backs. He's not playing well. He's never had 50 yards in a game in his career yet for Marshawn Lloyd.
27:04So even in a theoretical good matchup against Dallas, nailed it.
27:07Not super interested here. Dallas is allowing the seventh most fantasy points to opposing running backs.
27:12So I think if we are in desperation mode, like if you are a manager who picked up Ollie Gordon and has
27:18just been surviving off of those touchdowns and now you don't have him this week, yeah, I think you have to work with Marshawn Lloyd.
27:25Yeah, I think Lloyd and Marks and if Barkley's out, Pierce, they're all in the same vicinity.
27:29They're like all early to mid-20s in a running back ranking.
27:32So ideally, you're not starting them, but you could probably do worse in your flex.
27:37And what you're hoping for Marshawn Lloyd is exactly what you got last week.
27:40Like you're kind of chasing touchdowns if we're being honest.
27:43Like that's, that's how he's going to make his hay for you is just falling in the end zone.
27:48It's expected to be a lot of points in this game.
27:51The over-under is 52 and a half. So, I mean, there's...
27:54Let's talk about some wide receivers. Oh, this is more fun.
27:57At least the first name. Oh, who do you have as your first name on your list?
28:02The Steelers. Got it, got it. That's what I have.
28:05All right, I just want to make sure that your first name is the same as my first name.
28:10Michael Pittman Jr. on IR. Roman Wilson out this week.
28:13It feels like Jimmy Bernard has been the one that has stepped up eight plus targets in two of his last four games.
28:19The other two games we won't talk about. He just wasn't utilized very much.
28:23But six for 80 and nine targets this last one for 14.4 fantasy points taken on Tampa.
28:28At least worth an add here on waivers this week given the way that Aaron Rodgers is out there slinging it.
28:34Yeah, I don't think it's... Or I should... Let me reword that.
28:37I think it's possible Bernard could find his way into the flex conversation moving forward this season.
28:42Is it possible that he just takes the number two job going forward and you know that DK Metcalf's target ceiling is kind of limited.
28:48He's never going to be a 30% target share guy.
28:51He's generally going to be closer to 20 or 22% and be utilized a lot near the goal line.
28:56But Michael Pittman hasn't shown much yet. He doesn't have much trust from Aaron Rodgers.
29:00Bernard does. He is... Bernard has barely played this season.
29:03He has two games already with eight or more targets.
29:06I know. Roman Wilson has flashed a little bit but he had exactly six targets in every game.
29:11Jeremy Bernard was his second round pick. You draft a guy in the second round.
29:15Yeah. By way of Washington. But yeah. Sure. But you draft a guy there to be a long-term starter to be a
29:21number two at worst in your offense. So I'm optimistic here.
29:24He led the wide receiver room in routes and targets last week.
29:27And I mentioned this earlier but the Steelers offense and this has been an Aaron Rodgers staple for a long time especially during his Packers heyday.
29:35They've scored a league high 91% of their touchdowns through the air this season.
29:38So that presents opportunities near the goal line for Bernard, Metcalf, Fryer, Muth and they're playing Tampa Bay right now mid-pack against
29:45wide receivers so far this season but a real opportunity for a rookie who has earned Rodgers' trust to play a big role.
29:51He'll be a priority of mine I'm waiting for.
29:53And came out of college being hailed as quite polished as a route runner and also a really good tackle breaker.
29:59So this isn't a developmental high ceiling RAS score type of player.
30:02Yeah. In fact quite the opposite. Mm-hmm. And with Michael Pittman being on IR you know it's going to be a number
30:08of weeks until he comes back so that role should probably be available for him to be.
30:13Yeah this is his opportunity to not be able to put the cap back in the bag.
30:18He has a few weeks here and maybe he just takes this job and runs away with it.
30:23Sort of like we saw Kendrick Bourne do obviously the Cardinals couldn't wait to unlock this guy.
30:27Now the Marvin Harrison Jr. is gone. By the way if Marvin Harrison Jr.
30:31for some reason was on waivers because someone cut him loose and they were over it he would obviously be the first
30:37wide receiver waiver target I would add this week.
30:40Would you take him over Jimmy Bernard? Bernard yeah I don't know I don't think that especially with Nico Collins there and
30:46the defense playing better like if you think look if you think Houston's defense is just going to be they're going to
30:52regress to early season and they're going to be atrocious and they're going to have to throw the ball a ton maybe
30:58there's something there for Harrison if he wins that two job but I'm pessimistic about that.
31:02I think the defense is going to be good they're going to remain balanced they're going to be more competitive they're going
31:08to be able to run the ball you still have Nico Collins handling a huge share of the targets we don't even
31:14know if Harrison's going to be good how long is it going to take to learn the playbook I think he's worth
31:21an end of bench but I'm more interested in Bernard at least for the short term.
31:25I think what Mike said too about this being the opportunity for Bernard is massive right and Harrison's situation is different because
31:31there's so much more to learn and he doesn't necessarily I think the thing that everybody is excited about is the CJ
31:37Stroud MHJ connection from college and that just automatically picking up where it left off but that's not a realistic expectation you
31:43don't just slide it's not Madden you don't just pick up a controller and get right back into the groove it takes
31:49some time to be able to get there so then with Kendrick Bourne obviously being unlocked in this one five catches for
31:5570 yards on eight targets against my Detroit Lions is it worth an add or was this a hey they played the
32:01Detroit Lions and they were trailing the entire game and someone else had to catch yeah although they might do that a
32:07lot that's what you're hoping for a pass on Bourne he had the big week one he disappeared for three weeks even
32:13in this game what I noticed was he was playing fewer snaps than Jalen Brooks and actually Elijah Higgins as well they're
32:19going more 12 personnel here guy that's why I took him so they went a little different direction a wide receiver and
32:25honestly I don't know what they're going to do a receiver like I don't think you want to run Bourne and Brooks
32:31out there all season maybe Jalen Virgil a rookie gets a run at some point but I don't know if they actually
32:38do I don't know they're not super competitive so it would be weird to trade for like Jerry Judy or something I
32:44don't think they're going to do that but I don't know I just don't think Bourne's going to be near consistent enough
32:50to be a flex option I like him this week so I and I I like Bourne this week yes against the
32:56Rams mostly because well we saw obviously the Rams gave up more on the ground than they did through the air but
33:02that's the way the game went right but there are so many points available and we know that Arizona is going to
33:08be chasing them and we know that Bourne is one of these vetted experienced players now if Mac Jones was under center
33:14I'd start him in a heartbeat but I think that there is some play here I do think there's some flex appeal
33:20and I I like his sleeper potential in this particular week I love your point about the snaps and how they are
33:26being you know given throughout the team but I I think that there's more here than a simple like shy away okay
33:32I'm a little more intrigued he's available in 98.5% of leagues so there you go you can grab him not for me
33:38though probably also available in 98% of leagues unfortunately with Debo Samuel expected to miss a number of weeks with a hamstring
33:44injury Brandon Cooks stepped up got in the end zone guys knowing that it's just been a battle of attrition there for
33:5049ers pass catchers do you think that Brandon Cooks is worth the look maybe only three targets so far since joining the
33:56team but there's a real opportunity to maybe be their number two or three receiver for a few weeks did score a
34:02touchdown last week and this week they're playing Washington so I'm not going to start Brandon Cooks but maybe a DFS punt
34:08although I don't my DFS punts last week were Casey Concepcion and Roman Wilson so that was that was a rough one
34:14so maybe you don't listen to me there but obviously both got hurt so in week six would you rather roll out
34:20Bourne or Brandon Cooks if you were in an emergency situation break last year either I mean I have them actually it's
34:26funny I have my rankings 66th and 68th okay who 66th Brandon Cooks I mean look Washington's a lot of the second
34:33most catches to receivers so if you think he could catch three or four balls and score a touchdown in one of
34:39the best offenses in the NFL sure I mean he's not the worst start throw but this is more for maybe 12
34:45plus team leagues at best you know who I like as a pass catcher more than any of those guys Brenton Strange
34:51the last two weeks at the tight end spot eight targets back to back weeks seven catches back to back weeks seven
34:57for 95 for 16 and a half fantasy points against the Bengals in week four seven for 68 for 13.8 fantasy points
35:03against the Eagles in week five now they take on the Houston Texans has Houston up until last week against the Titans
35:09not been very vulnerable against pass catchers this year they have my friend so I like Brenton Strange as a streaming tight
35:15end this week how about you guys interesting I do not really I'm at 13 I'm not I'm not over the top
35:21I think the question is we view him as a tight end one yet or not 15 four teams on a bye
35:27I mean yeah he's this week this week he's a streaming option I guess the question is is he back like is
35:33he now a back end tight end one or is he still maybe an occasional streaming option I think it's I think
35:39it's the latter right now Houston by the way has not allowed a touchdown to a tight end so far this season
35:45yeah and look Strange does lead the Jags and targets over the last three weeks with 21 which is impressive to be
35:51leading that group earlier this season and last year he was in a very similarly crowded but high scoring offense similar to
35:57this year he averaged five targets and 9.8 fantasy points per game so I think he's going to be one of them
36:03tight ends that goes like this throughout the season but it feels more Dalton Schultz than it is Sam Laporta you know
36:09that's how it feels to me so I'm not going out of my way to spend fab I think he's going to
36:15be in the top we're going to rank him between tight end 12 and 15 every single week and then you're just
36:21going to throw a dart and hope that's the week that hits okay so exactly what I said he's a streaming tight
36:28end for you gotcha thank you guys I appreciate that you said this week I said no I'm at 13 so I'm
36:34not going to use him against Houston who hasn't allowed a touchdown yet I would disagree with that if you say 13
36:40and you often talk about 12 team leagues and you say the tight end that's 13 isn't a streaming option in 12
36:46team leagues I don't want to use him this week though I don't want to spend fab on him okay guys guys
36:52these are semantics okay I mean we're talking waiver wire I don't want to spend money on him that's fair you don't
36:58have to spend money on him I get that it's hard earned cash how about the tight end that just catches touchdowns
37:04from one of your favorite quarterbacks Pat Friermuth would you rather go with Pat Friermuth this week at the tight end of
37:10the streamer one of my favorite quarterbacks wouldn't go that far well yeah I mean he's thrown three plus touchdowns in three
37:16straight games right you do they scored how many percent of their touchdowns through the year most 90 91 yeah over 90
37:22yes yeah look he's been he's been solid actually from ranked ahead of Brent Brenton Strange so we have a streaming option
37:28now on our hands okay we gotta tell us why you like Pat Friermuth no Michael Pittman no Roman Wilson he has
37:34four touchdowns in five games he has three end zone targets which doesn't seem like a lot but in five games it
37:40is relative to the other tight ends he's also 11th in targets and his three carries as well he's doing his best
37:46Tyler Warren impression so far this season by the way his seven targets last week his most since week 18 of the
37:522024 season so it's a little bit of a change this year for Friermuth so I'm optimistic on this one I am
37:58too he's going to be a facts versus feelings player this week okay full disclosure he's managed a double digit fantasy points
38:04in three of his last five if I'm getting that sort of consistency out of the tight end position then I'm taking
38:10it and like we talked about earlier he is an established player we are hoping Jeremy Bernard steps up to this opportunity
38:16but we know that there is a safety valve available to Aaron Rodgers who needs one in Friermuth I will say as
38:23well if you do grab Brenton Strange I would only grab him for this week because they have a bye the following
38:29week it is a one week streaming sounds like a waste of fab to me but what do I know are we
38:35forward betting that's a great question yes let's do it my friend I say Pat Friermuth outscores Brenton Strange in week six
38:41go ahead you can do it with him okay I say Brett I that what I say Friermuth yes yes outscores Brenton
38:47Strange in week six are we gonna put the thing we gotta do the thing I say Brenton Strange outscores Pat Friermuth
38:53in week six put it on the board you did great you did great everyone crushed it that was as smooth as
38:59it's ever been let's talk about defenses really quickly and then we can move on a couple of streaming options would you
39:05take the bear no no going up against the Atlanta it was Tua it's Tua Tua's had one maybe maybe we'll see
39:11Penix on the fence to play if Tua goes it's more palatable I'm still not I'm still not still not there yet
39:17all right what about the Chiefs taking on the Chargers right now we're looking at defenses rostered under 50% of what team
39:23is most generous to opposing defenses so far this season the Chargers oh okay the Chargers okay got it got it trust
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41:14last play we're to uh through it all right so the second to last play he hits Drake London yes he gets
41:20me a point and a half or whatever it was and I'm playing uh who was I facing Joe yep in the
41:26FFC League we need one more catch I need a three yard catch from Drake London to win that matchup the next
41:32throw he throws to Drake London it gets picked off and ends it brutal another two weeks in a row that happened
41:38to me wait there's a vendetta so I'm still mad so you lost I lost to Joe Fortenbraugh yes okay Joe Fortenbraugh
41:44okay I love that all right mailbag guys let's dive into the mailbag with you thanks for hanging out with us doing
41:50this show as well and our buddy Eric Moody at Eric and Moody on social media dude answers all your questions we
41:56love him Daniel wants to know Ollie Gordon or Woody Marks for the rest of the season Daniel I'm going to ask
42:02you to hold this conversation for about one more second that's what I mean hold this question for about one more second
42:08we're going to dive into it in the next segment but boy is that a great question into it right now J-Lo
42:14wants to know drop who's the strongest bench stash oh what Najee Harris or Emmett Johnson you want to drop the strongest
42:20bench why don't you tell us you want to hold on to the strongest bench stash and that is Emmett Johnson yeah
42:26maybe it's dop oh so then you can answer it tell him why it's Emmett Johnson thank you Liz I think it's
42:32Emmett Johnson Emmett Johnson I don't think Najee Harris in that I mean we're not seeing anybody in that uh week to
42:38week backfield yeah this is one of them rankings versus projections sort of or stash first projections because Harris will consistently project
42:44higher because week to week he's going to get six or seven touches right Johnson won't but if the starter gets hurt
42:50Harris goes up a little because they'll use multiple backs no no Harris Harris a little but if Walker goes out Johnson
42:56way up there so that's why Johnson's the better stash what does he do is that what he does that's how it
43:03goes that's the sound that happens it's one of them sound effects yes when you do it when you hit save in
43:09the rankings they go by the way I find it so charming what's that when you say one of them one of
43:15them I love it oh yeah it's so charming and folksy that might be a lot of yeah reddler 206 wants to
43:21know Jordan love over Tyler shuck yes I think this week right now yes I'm with you on that one this weekend
43:27it's probably a conversation going forward although I don't want to punish shuck too much for last week because anyone that runs
43:33into Minnesota it's a 91% blitz rate that's unbelievable yeah all right guys let's have one more that's it no I think
43:39that was it okay I guess we're gonna answer that uh that question that was just on the board right so we're
43:45doing now which question was on the board oh yes sorry thank you uh we're not gonna start there but we will
43:51get there Ollie Gordon or Woody Marks for the rest of the season you know what why not let's just start with
43:57that one thank you answer the man all right we'll start with that one um I wanted to throw a couple things
44:03at you guys sure I've been looking at a couple of running backs first off I want to give a big shout
44:09out to our guy Eric Moody I have been out and I have been notably out on Ollie Gordon and we talked
44:15about it here I said I would not add him I do not like it he was in chat when I was
44:21saying all those things when we were all kind of like no I don't really like Ollie Gordon outside of Devaney Chan
44:27and he was like I adamantly disagree with him and I would add him don't listen to Daniel he was yes respectfully
44:33and Eric was absolutely right shout out to Eric for being able for standing on business and being able to make that
44:39call because he has been good but that's kind of what I want to compare to some of these other dudes you
44:45look at where we've drafted some of these guys Amarion Hampton was a second round pick he's RB 25 in fantasy points
44:51Jeremiah Love was a third round pick he's RB 22 in fantasy points Cam Scadaboo was a fifth round pick RB 21
44:58in fantasy points and now Ollie Gordon who was undrafted is RB 26 and by the way he's RB 26 because the
45:04first two games in which he barely touched the ball count towards his points if you just look at what he did
45:10the three games that he was a starter he's clearly scoring more points per game than all three of these dudes so
45:16Mike I kind of want to ask you with the strength of schedule moving forward as a big part of how we
45:22look at this I want you to help us and Liz I want you to do this with me too I want
45:28to rank these running backs rest of season and it's gonna hurt me but I want to start with Amarion Hampton when
45:34you look at everything Amarion Hampton has done when you look at this Chargers offense when you look at all of these
45:40things that he has with Keaton Mitchell in the backfield and with the way to the way that they've utilized him I
45:46still think he's the one with the most touchdown equity I still think the one if the Chargers offense does get rolling
45:52who do I think is the back that has the most upside I still think it's Amarion Hampton what is his strength
45:58of schedule look like for the rest of the season for Hampton it does get a little tougher it's not anything that's
46:04impossible I know they're for the passing game it may be harder than this but based on what we've seen so far
46:10it's more of a tough schedule not an impossible schedule that being said what is impossible is the offense for the Chargers
46:16right now it is it's it's brutal right now I mean he has three touchdowns in five games but just one game
46:22over 15 touches 9.9 fantasy points per game just having six targets in five games is unacceptable 3.7 yards per carry I
46:28can go on and on I mean it's just been it's been a head scratcher I mean if there was I was
46:34down I was not nearly as high as most on the Chargers offense but O'Marion Hampton I thought could overcome that and
46:40still have a breakout season it is not happening and he's not playing enough right now they're using three running backs so
46:46you mentioned the targets right he only has five catches on the season as opposed to Keaton Mitchell who is being used
46:53in that capacity and has 12 catches right now Keaton Mitchell is the RB 17 in receptions and Hampton is the RB
46:5945 and he's not making up with any sort of efficiency on the ground he's averaging 3.7 yards per carry so under
47:05four that's never a great stat I think honestly what we have to wonder about here is if Mike McDaniels does not
47:11if he loses his job and this offense changes then I think there might be hope for Hampton of course there's an
47:17adjustment period that would have to go into place but running back tends to be the least affected in terms of time
47:23for that evolution to occur so there is a good chance I think McDaniel could get fired in which case maybe Hampton
47:29has something saved yeah I will I will say this on my list okay I think he's certainly in that conversation is
47:35a close call for me there was a play where Hampton got the ball I can't remember if it's a run or
47:41a dump off but it was a long run to the left cut through look really fast got into the end zone
47:47for a touchdown they said all right there we go and then I realized it was come on even all on Sunday
47:53so not good I mean these other Mitchell's playing well as well as well can do things that Hampton can't do yeah
47:59I mean the problem that's the problem the other guys aren't struggling necessarily so I don't think they're going away they might
48:05use more of it all they've been using more of in the last couple of weeks he had that long touchdown run
48:11so this could be a three-headed attack for a while I'm very concerned for incredibly vexing unfortunately only one game inside the
48:17top 20 at the running back position through the first five games of the season so we'll talk about that quickly though
48:23we're gonna do a little bit of an update we got some news here we're gonna throw out on the screen we
48:29do Adam Schefter reporting that Travian Henderson suffered a high ankle sprain in Sunday's win is now expected to be sidelined for
48:35multiple weeks per league sources he will not need surgery and he is regarded as a quick healer not sure where that
48:41information comes from so the Patriots are hoping that his return will be sooner rather than later yeah so we go back
48:48to week one right I'm trying this what I'm pulling up right now Ramondri Stevenson because they have Corey Kiner and he'll
48:54be involved a little bit but it should be their monitor Stevenson show so week one they've had 67 offensive snaps Stevenson
49:00played 57 at 18 carries and six targets expect that for a couple of weeks so Stevenson probably a fringe RB1 I
49:06stole this the other day when we were talking about it with Liz but you had said that the Pittsburgh Steelers running
49:12back room was the easiest if then conversation if there's no Rico Dottle then you start Jalen Warren well not even start
49:18it just like he maybe makes him a lineup lock but he becomes like RB1 yes fantasy yeah and we're kind of
49:24in that same thing without Travian Henderson we know that Ramondri Stevenson is just going to fall right into that role he
49:30will be busy we will talk about that more tomorrow probably on the show when we look at our rankings with that
49:36update let's talk about Jeremiah love Mike another guy do you want to know how many top 20 finishes Jeremiah love has
49:42to start I don't want to but I know that it's one he has one so far and he's in a spot
49:48again where this offense is down we were talked about this yesterday you weren't here but with them being down I expected
49:54them to throw the ball a lot more to the running back that I thought would be the pass catcher instead Tyler
50:00Algier was out there a heck of a lot more looking again strength of schedule Jeremiah love he started a little slow
50:06came into the season banged up right got hurt in the preseason so maybe that was a little bit of they want
50:12to make sure he's fully healthy how are you feeling about Jeremiah love when you look at a strength of schedule moving
50:18forward I mean the schedule the schedule is mid-pack it's been mid-pack so far it's mid-pack going forward more difficult though it
50:24overall though it's kind of average and the main reason that it works at average is because the fantasy playoffs is second
50:30easiest so that's what I've been kind of harping on since the preseason which is if he just slowly ramps his way
50:36up and gets more productive productive as the year goes on he could be a league winner the problem is he's not
50:42nearly as efficient or flashy as I thought I mean I you could see it on the table like you could see
50:49he has ability problem is it's not turning into anything he's averaging 3.7 yards per carry and 2.6 yards per target of
50:55he only has two targets over the last two games as well so three plus the first three games that's gone away
51:01it has been a problem I'm hoping that one of these weeks he's just gonna rip off a big play and then
51:07the it's gonna the momentum is gonna be there and he's gonna get rolling and keep a big workload I thought we
51:13didn't believe in momentum oh it's uh it's uh it's is it theoretical still?
51:17descriptive not predictive oh okay uh so I'm still theoretical momentum I feel like if I have him I'm hopeful that there's
51:23more there like we could get there but right now it's just not happening it's really just RB19 in fantasy points PPR
51:29fantasy points per reception that's not what we expected no I expected more to more out of him from that one I
51:35probably have him though as my number two in this list we'll talk about where we have them all ranking he's number
51:41one okay we'll get number one for me but yeah we could rank at the end is that what we're doing?
51:47yeah let's bring it at the end we'll kind of go through Cam Scadaboo Liz I want to ask you about Cam
51:53Scadaboo Cam at least had a couple of finishes inside the top 20 weeks one and week three both I'm sorry Jeremiah
51:59Love is the RB24 in fantasy points per reception you said 19?
52:02I did because Cam Scadaboo is the RB19 in fantasy points per reception there we go yes but you've seen Najee Harris
52:08we just talked about this with one of these other questions like he isn't the guy do you feel like when you're
52:14looking at Najee Harris excuse me when you're looking at Cam Scadaboo and the touches and the volume that he's getting but
52:20not able to get that volume in the passing game also not really getting any touchdown equity at the goal line how
52:26are you feeling about Cam Scadaboo I mean Cam Scadaboo has one fewer reception one less reception than Jeremiah Love he has
52:3210 and Love has 11 so I think that's more than we were necessarily expecting and the fact that we keep getting
52:38confused because there are so many names as part of the discussion and the equation is evidence of how I don't know
52:44Tracy was back out there for a couple right?
52:47like he I thought he was going to get a little bit so Scadaboo RB10 in carries only averaging 3.6 yards per
52:53carry though yeah the schedule I believe does get a little does get a touch more difficult for Scadaboo if it stays
52:59neutral for Love it does get more difficult for Scadaboo I think for me ultimately is which offense do I want to
53:05be a part of here and right now at least based on last week's performance I feel like the Giants have more
53:11lift than the Cardinals fair yeah I feel like not much has changed for me with Scadaboo from what I talked about
53:17on FFC is it FFC or FFCD FFC Tennessee Football Countdown countdown is one word CD countdown I've seen it FFCD you
53:23have to put money in the jar for that maybe that might be no no I didn't call it FF now I
53:29call it FFC so I think that's okay look the overall volume has been fine he's 9th in carries he's 16th in
53:35scrimmage yards 15 plus touches in every game that's going to keep you in the RB2 conversation every week but to your
53:41point a lot like Love the efficiency is not there 3.6 yards per carry you said that only the 10 catches he
53:47only has one touchdown only two carries inside the five so I'm just kind of repeating what you guys just said basically
53:53yeah there's not much else I do like the matchup this week they play the Saints they've had the most fantasy points
53:59they're running back so he would be my highest ranked this week but going forward the ceiling has just not been there
54:06he's just a floor he's like Tony Pollard basically he's like a fringe RB2 and the upside's not there right now I
54:12think we're also thinking both of these two players are dealing with potential health issues right like is Love's ankle fully healthy
54:18and has Scadaboo while he's returned to sport has he returned to prior level of performance after the pretty catastrophic injury from
54:24last season absolutely very catastrophic alright I got one more I want to throw at you guys obviously and that's the Ollie
54:30Gordon conversation this one's triggering for me I'm gonna try and keep it in control week 3 17 carries 41 yards plus
54:363 catches for 14 yards so that's 20 touches got in the end zone 14.5 fantasy points week 4 against Minnesota really
54:42tough defense had a big breakout 9 carries for 100 yards and a touchdown 2 catches no yards 18 fantasy points though
54:48and then last week against Cincy 18 carries for 88 yards 4.9 yards per carry another touchdown 14.8 fantasy points he's had
54:543 straight weeks where he's been inside the top 17 these other guys have had 2 weeks combined where they've been top
55:0017 running backs I know they have a bye but looking at Ollie Gordon looking at strength of schedule I was more
55:06out than in and I think that I need to change the way that I've looked at Ollie Gordon unfortunately even though
55:12I thought boy if Devon Achan couldn't do this there's no way Ollie Gordon can do it I've changed my narrative on
55:18the way I'm looking at Ollie Gordon do you guys feel the same way I'm glad you said that because I think
55:24we start there which is I'm seeing more and more victory lapping on Devon Achan as him being a bad pick do
55:30we think he would have done worse than this no had he been out there he probably would be doing better than
55:36this he'd be doing the rushing and he would have certainly more involvement in the passing game Gordon only has 5 targets
55:42and 14 yards zero against Cincinnati of all yeah I mean that's my hesitation on Gordon I will say is the lack
55:48of receiving work right now the rushing's been good but I don't know if that's necessarily sustainable the rushing efficiency was poor
55:54the first game it was fine last week the week before he only had 9 carries did have under yards but you
56:00mentioned this you teased it the Dolphins running back do have the easiest remaining schedule this season so that could be enough
56:07to keep him in the and it went from middle of the pack right like from 15 yes the pack to easiest
56:13going forward so I think there's a good chance he'll be startable but I'm more you said you were like triggered about
56:19the Gordon stuff I'm more annoyed about the Devon Achan victory laps the guy got hurt in like the running back situation
56:25yeah but Achan wasn't doing it he wasn't doing it he didn't come in and score a touchdown and then a 6th
56:31round pick comes in and performs at least statistically well better than the coveted player I hear you but the criticism wasn't
56:37on Achan well maybe it should have been because do you disagree that Achan's one of the best running backs in the
56:43NFL I mean I made a talent bet on him ahead of the season and now I'm allowed to be frustrated that
56:49the talent that was completely under looked that wasn't even on any sort of name is the one we're having a conversation
56:55about Ollie Gordon I don't think just because Devon Achan got hurt but because he underperformed and then also got hurt his
57:01backup overperformed based on what I think as a human if I drafted Devon Achan and he didn't play well the first
57:07two games of the season and then he's still on it's still a bad team and then his backup actually outperforms him
57:13after he gets hurt in shocking fashion against a Vikings defense I am allowed to just be frustrated that the running back
57:19that I thought was going to do this didn't and instead it was the guy that I don't think is as good
57:25as him I'm frustrated that he got hurt I think Devon Achan would be putting up some nice numbers the last three
57:31weeks I think that we would get there that's just what I think but we'll never know basically Ollie Gordon is Peter
57:37Parker is what we're saying so let's order these guys so we got these four one of these guys was completely undrafted
57:43the other one we I mean all the other three we used very big draft picks on order them for me because
57:49I would go Jeremiah Love Ollie Gordon Omarine Hampton Cam Scadaboo wow my order is very different I'm going Love Scadaboo and
57:55the last one was hard close I'm going to give it to Hampton and the bet there is on talent that he'll
58:02get more more as the season goes on and he'll outperform Gordon who I don't know if he's really I don't know
58:08if Ollie Gordon as a talent moves the needle for me you know I I I did I Ollie Gordon would be
58:14four then for you on that list yeah okay all three of us have different yeah what do you have Scadaboo Love
58:20Gordon Hampton and then Hampton Hampton's last oh it's gross that we're having this conversation to be honest guys I think next
58:26week Gordon is strength of schedule rankings that actually made me rank him not dead last it gave me the most optimism
58:32that's a part why I wanted to do this because looking at these was like it's a big part of it is
58:38looking at the strength of schedule moving forward I want to ask you one last question on these guys really quickly is
58:44there anything that you would do if you had any of these running backs on your roster or if you didn't is
58:50there any of them that you would say hey I I don't know if you're going to get much for Scadaboo Hampton
58:56the only way if I have Hampton the only way I'm trading him is if someone still views him like I'm still
59:02a married Hampton second round value I can get a wide receiver two or something you're just not going to get that
59:08right now but if you can somehow if someone wants to buy low go for it I would try to drum up
59:14the buy low narrative on Hampton as someone who has roster who has them okay what about Ollie Gordon would you if
59:20you had Ollie Gordon similar to the David Montgomery conversation that a lot of people had at the beginning of the season
59:26okay you now have a guy that maybe turned into an RB2 that you didn't expect do you try to hold on
59:32to this for as long as you can potentially get this volume or do you say now's the time for me to
59:38sell high because I've got three straight weeks where he's done pretty well yeah the bad offense and the shaky or the
59:44limited receiving makes me think this is not necessarily sustainable even with a good schedule so I would probably try to trade
59:50him the problem is it's a terrible time they're going into a bye week no one wants to trade for anyone going
59:57into a bye week you could luck trading Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase this week people just don't want to do it
60:03we're going to have a couple quarterbacks and maybe we'll try to keep this as quick as we possibly can here potential
60:09segment is sustainability the best ability guys can we keep this up we're going to do quarterbacks here two quarterbacks one coming
60:15out of a bye one heading into a bye Bryce Young and Jared Goff let's start with Bryce Young because he's coming
60:21back playing this week QB 7 total of 90 fantasy points he's been unbelievable so far this year nine total touchdowns 1200
60:27passing yards when you look at everything that Bryce Young has done when you look at the fact that they've got a
60:33great running back in Chuba Hubbard also catching passes out of the backfield and everything that he's got with Teddero McMillan do
60:39you guys believe that Bryce Young is a top 10 quarterback moving forward for the short term I think he can be
60:45yeah the main issue I would say I'm probably ranking him as if depending on the match more of a streamer I
60:51think he's a shot at it the problem is they go from the fourth easiest now to the hardest remaining schedule for
60:57quarterbacks and he's not adding much with his legs 19 rushing yards so far this season so if the question is about
61:03sustainability going from where he has been for the first five weeks of the season to this hardest schedule you would say
61:09sustainability is probably not what you would think Bryce Young would be doing I think it's a QB 13 not QB 10
61:15situation for me based on the difficulty and because we've seen him performing at such with such an easy strength of schedule
61:21with such a favorable strength of schedule and now it's going to become much more difficult and in comparison to Jared Goff
61:27we're going to talk about like the surrounding talent like yes Ted McMillan we've seen things out of Jalen Coker the backfield
61:33has question marks maybe talent is elite enough for him to make up for the lack of rushing all right next one
61:39Jared Goff guys Jared Goff has been unbelievable so far to start this season safe to say that Jared Goff is what
61:45Matthew Stafford was in 2025 right now to start this right now the first five weeks right do you think that's sustainable
61:52again given what his offense is and knowing what he can be yeah so do you want to give the stat no
61:58you can do it strength to schedule stat well he go ahead you know you do it you give him the yeah
62:04they're gonna they're so good he's been so good this season as well not gonna run for anything he doesn't have a
62:10rushing touchdown though so he's giving you a little bit there but yeah look I'll give you one more quick stat he
62:16leads the NFL in passing yards and second in passing touchdowns this season he's finished top six in both of those each
62:22of the last four seasons his finishes in points per game 13th 15th 7th and 12th so probably gonna come back to
62:28earth a little bit but there's enough here to be a fringe QB one a fringe QB one especially with bye weeks
62:34and having to have a streaming option not this week yeah yes yeah all right really quickly let's talk two wide receivers
62:40and we can do this from the same squad and then we'll wrap it up the Packers wide receivers have been unbelievable
62:46because we talked about Jordan Love earlier he's been slinging it to basically just Christian Watson and Matthew Golden Christian Watson four
62:52of his five games he's had eight or more targets at least 14 fantasy points in every single one of those games
62:58that he had at least eight or more targets 22 plus in three of five wide receiver three in fantasy points wide
63:04receiver five in receiving yards wide receiver do for a guy Liz I mean with him alone we'll talk about Matthew Golden
63:10in a second do you think that this is I mean with him being healthy is this what we should expect from
63:16Matthew from Christian Watson yes I think that well also the schedule eases up a little bit so I like that my
63:22biggest worry like I touched on earlier was that this defense gets healthier and the run game finds more stability and becomes
63:28more established if you will and so then the volume decreases yeah so we want the defense to be bad and we
63:34want the run game to be inefficient and not utilized so that everything can remain through the air and that's my biggest
63:40fear in terms of regression but the schedule does ease up a little bit so Michael Parsons should take as long as
63:46possible to be fully healthy to come back yeah I'm worried about touchdown regression of the mean for Watson expected touchdowns 2.7
63:53he has six touchdowns already that's going to be hard to sustain going forward but he does lead the NFL with seven
63:59end zone targets funny enough Matthew Golden is tied for second with five I love doing a show with Mike because I
64:05have the exact same stats I didn't copy from you what are you talking about I think I feel good about my
64:11analysis me too by the way Matthew Golden 8.8 targets per game he's been so busy I think they come back to
64:17earth a little bit but sustainable they have the fourth hardest schedule so far for receivers and they're still both wide receiver
64:23ones in fantasy so you would agree that Matthew Golden has more sustainability than Watson because of the touchdown fluiness exactly we
64:29talked about that last week I think his floor is probably a little higher based on how they're being used Golden at
64:35least 11.5 fantasy points in every single game this season which you know I would love more than 11.5 fantasy points sometimes
64:41but if you said the guy that basically was a disappointment in year one as a rookie gave us that through the
64:47first five weeks I'd feel great I like that let's do a quick fab budget game before we get out of here
64:53my friends the best road trip pit stop food this is going to be fun if you don't know how to road
64:59trip properly we're going to find out because I think there is a proper way to do this I don't think you're
65:05going to be thrilled with me I'll say that Michael really do you okay who wants to go first Liz do you
65:11want to go first do you want me to explain everything sure we have that you get to spend we have 10
65:17total budget then we have rows $4 row a $3 row a $2 row and a $1 row that $4 row contains
65:23just for you to be able to choose from beef jerky a hot dog off of the roller grill monster or Red
65:29Bull energy drink and then a pre-made deli sandwich those are your $4 options $3 options bag a big bag of any
65:35chips any iced coffee drink a slushy or icy or trail mix oh not interested $2 options king candy bar or a
65:41bag of candy or gummies you only get one of them 20 ounce soda sunflower seeds or a pickle in a pouch
65:48and then also $1 options single slim jim a bottle of water a small bag of pretzels and a banana by the
65:54register guys I've got my I'm not gonna eat on this road trip also I love that I kind of pitched this
66:00idea like we should draft favorite gas station foods clearly haven't eaten in a gas station in 20 years it doesn't seem
66:06like alright so the $4 options I'm not eating beef jerky I'm definitely not eating a hot dog off of a roller
66:12grill and I haven't had Red Bull or a Monster Energy drink since aughts and if I did I don't remember it
66:18because it was mixed into something else right so to me this is probably you know I need a Diet Coke so
66:24that's number that's $2 I would love a bag of probably Sour Patch Kids do you love how my accent is completely
66:30coming out right yeah you can feel it Sour Patch Kids a Diet Coke sunflower seeds because your girl needs some protein
66:36to stay and then I was gonna give that's $6 I was gonna give my $4 to Mike and watch you eat
66:42one of them one of them hot dogs on a stick or whatever the hot dogs I wanna watch you eat a
66:48hot dog I don't like hot dogs I'm not a hot dog guy no they don't have any of our yogurt and
66:54granola I know because it's a gas station guys one of my smoothies I make for lunch come on alright so acai
67:00bowls do you want me to go first because mine's mine's embarrassing it's so boring but I tried to do it realistic
67:06what would I actually get if I was going on a road trip so I did get a deli sandwich because I
67:12feel like I need lunch or something right I need to eat something so turkey sandwich you've been in there a minute
67:18I didn't want to do it but I figure that's the only thing there that's like I'm not gonna feel gross if
67:24I eat it $3 look we all have we all have vices right I'll have a bag of Doritos bag of chips
67:30pool ranch or nacho cheese nacho cheese I'm a nacho cheese guy I like purple ones I'll do sea salt chips too
67:36something like that I'll get a candy bar I'm thinking like a Reese's peanut butter cup something like that does that count?
67:43it does that counts okay yeah and then I'm a water guy I'll take a bottle of water that's mostly what I
67:49drink is water I do not like soda big water guy team water see I thought about it can I use your
67:55extra money to buy four bananas four bananas so we kind of wanted a banana me too I wanted a banana too
68:01okay big banana guy too see mine's boring mine cannot be more boring no that was and I didn't realize you were
68:07a hydro homie but now that we know that I understand you're a big water guy I'd like to be honest about
68:13this I'm not buying beef jerky or a hot dog or an energy drink and the pre-made deli sandwiches listen my guy
68:19Moushir at the 7-Eleven down the road from me great King's Hawaiian roll with some turkey and cheese they have them out
68:25there so like that's the only pre-made deli sandwich but I'm not doing that I'm doing the big bag of chips to
68:31the nacho cheese Doritos it is baked barbecue lays or it's the all dressed because those Canadians know what they're doing my
68:37friend if you've not had the all dressed you've not had the all dressed oh my gosh it's so good it's like
68:43sour cream and onion barbecue and salt and vinegar yeah they do all of the the things on top of each other
68:49it's delicious it's something like that y'all better buy some wipes while you're at the gas station because you're in the bathroom
68:55obviously I need a banana because if you're road tripping properly you need that potassium to recover from all the fun you're
69:01having I was mad I couldn't get the bananas so I got a banana I also got a 20 ounce soda probably
69:07a little bit of caffeine in me what about an icy icies do still hit you know what hits the best though
69:13I can't believe you guys slept on this my king size candy bar is a Twix you wanna know why cause you
69:19get four of them I get to eat one when I'm in the car I get to put it away I get
69:25to go out at the next gas stop I pull it out I got a second Twix we get to the destination
69:31I have a Twix to eat as I'm snacking unpacking everything and that's guess what I'm laying in bed 1130 at night
69:38we're in the hotel room and I'm like there's another Twix in my glove box I can sneak out of the hotel
69:44Rosie doesn't even know about Daniel you do not have this level of discipline you're eating those four Twix one and all
69:50we don't even get five miles up the road and they are all eating you can't do a single candy bar you've
69:56gotta get one that has four pieces cause then it feels like it's so much bigger than it really you're more animated
70:02about this than you were for any of your takes this whole show this whole season maybe since the Nico Collins debate
70:08I did get in I'm gonna get you a king size Twix and some all dress potato chips we got a couple
70:14of them from check guys 10 bananas take it or leave it from KMC I mean honestly it's not a bad choice
70:20that's the main thing I would buy if I was at the grocery store gas taken hot dogs never the move from
70:26Benny Breeze no I'm Benny Breeze I think you're right high quality H2O with you on that team water there and then
70:32Dan S you want that jerky your budget is toast yeah if you here's the thing man I get stuck in my
70:38teeth I don't like it I agree and then I gotta pick it out at the end yeah it tastes good but
70:44it doesn't no I don't like it no anything from Bucky's that's from our guy Eric and Moody we should put Eric
70:50in the Bucky suit and have to answer questions like that we should he should have to spin the punishment wheel every
70:56once in a while how do we figure that out yeah we'll have to figure something out next time I have to
71:02spin he can do it for me I'll pass it on to oh yeah sure that's so generous yeah hey thanks to
71:08Liz Loza for hanging out with us again Liz you're gonna be here we're gonna do facts versus feelings in person before
71:14you get out of here but tomorrow it's gonna be back to me Field and Mike come hang out with us then
71:20guys we love you don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself get your waiver bids in we'll see
71:26you tomorrow

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