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Week 5 Rapid Reaction & WTF Moments!

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32 min
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Oct 12, 2026
Published
Mon, October 12, 2026
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Bo NixCaleb WilliamsD'Andre SwiftJ.K. DobbinsJalen HurtsCam AkersCarnell TateChase BrownChristian WatsonColston LovelandCourtland SuttonDallas GoedertDavid MontgomeryDeebo Samuel
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Bo Nix

NegativeProjection19:03

Bo Nix has been under 14.5 fantasy points in four of his five games through Week 5, making him an unattractive fantasy option.

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NegativeProjection31:40

Bo Nix has been under 14.5 fantasy points in four of his five games to start the season. Express Delivery is out on Nix and not interested in starting him.

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Caleb Williams

PositiveProjection27:30

Williams is expected to return sooner than originally planned, potentially as early as Week 6, after witnessing poor backup QB performance (Case Keenum) in Week 5; his return should unlock production for Bears receivers including Loveland and Burden.

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NegativeInjury40:49

Caleb Williams has been hurt, forcing the Bears to use Tyson Bajant and Case Keenum as backups; neither has the arm strength that Williams presents, representing a significant downgrade in quarterback play.

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Cam Akers

NegativeProjection10:01

Cam Akers underwhelmed in Week 5 vs. the Commanders despite Express Delivery's bullish outlook heading into the matchup. He touched the ball 15 times but barely cleared 7 fantasy points with just 59 rushing yards and 12 receiving yards. He has only one touchdown all season (Week 1 vs. Dallas) and played 63% of snaps, indicating he is not being utilized the way he was last year. Express Delivery questions whether Akers has become just another touchdown-dependent RB2, noting possible lingering effects from his catastrophic injury and a lack of the explosiveness and strength previously displayed.

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Carnell Tate

NegativeProjection17:20

Carnell Tate disappointed in Week 5 vs. the Houston Texans despite coming off a huge game the prior week and facing a defense that has given up over 18 fantasy points to wide receivers in four straight games. He managed only five targets for one catch and six yards. Express Delivery attributes the issue to Cam Ward, who averaged just 2.9 air yards per completion and completed only two of 12 passes thrown for 10 or more yards downfield. However, Express Delivery still believes talent breaks tiebreakers and leans Tate's way due to his draft capital and demonstrated ability.

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Chase Brown

NegativeProjection20:16

Chase Brown, whom Express Delivery has backed for three years in a row, disappointed in Week 5 vs. Miami with just 13 carries for 39 yards and three catches for 21 yards, totaling seven fantasy points. This was supposed to be a smash spot. Samaje Perine got into the end zone instead of Brown. However, Express Delivery notes Brown did manage over 19 fantasy points against Jacksonville's tough run defense the prior week and has shown 11 catches of receiving work, suggesting the Bengals offense may play up or down to competition level.

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Christian Watson

PositiveProjection13:44

Christian Watson continues to catch bombs, converting six of eight targets for 143 receiving yards and two touchdowns, posting over 32 fantasy points in Week 5. He now has six receiving scores through the first five games of the season, establishing himself as a top target in the Packers offense alongside Matthew Golden.

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Colston Loveland

NegativeRole25:29

Loveland caught 2 of 5 targets for 19 receiving yards in Week 5 with backup QB Case Keenum; analysts recommend holding (not dropping) despite frustration because Caleb Williams is expected to return soon (potentially Week 6), which should improve production; benching is acceptable but dropping is not advised.

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Courtland Sutton

NegativeRole20:00

Cortland Sutton should be benched unless you have no other options due to injuries or bye weeks; while he scored a touchdown in Week 5, the Broncos' offense spreads targets so widely that he is unreliable as a flex option in Sean Payton's system.

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D'Andre Swift

PositiveRole25:00

Swift is a confirmed start going forward despite limited rushing volume (9 carries, 43 yards) in Week 5 due to Bears being in catch-up mode; also contributed 4 receptions for 30 receiving yards and a touchdown, maintaining dual-threat value.

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PositiveRole41:40

DeAndre Swift has been a start and will continue to be a start for the Bears despite limited rushing volume (nine carries for 43 yards in Week 5); he scored a touchdown and the Bears were in catch-up mode, limiting his rushing opportunities.

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Dallas Goedert

PositiveRole47:14

Dallas Goddert returned in the Eagles-Panthers game in London and made a little bit of noise, suggesting he is one of the few Eagles pass catchers worth considering in fantasy alongside Devonta Smith.

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David Montgomery

NegativeInjury49:09

David Montgomery suffered a groin injury that caused him to exit the game, opening the door for Woody Marks to play every single snap once Montgomery left the field.

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Deebo Samuel

NegativeInjury50:19

Debo Samuel exited the game with a hamstring issue and has looked not great overall, requiring continued monitoring for fantasy purposes.

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DeVonta Smith

PositiveMatchup46:58

Devonta Smith is currently out with injury but the Eagles draw the Panthers next week. If Smith returns to health, Express Delivery believes he will be in play for fantasy purposes, noting he was one of the wide receivers they were most excited about heading into the season.

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Drake Maye

PositiveProjection0:40

After struggling in the first three weeks with under 10 fantasy points each game, Drake Maye has posted back-to-back games over 26 fantasy points with three-plus touchdowns in each; Week 5 vs. Raiders he delivered 374 passing yards, four passing touchdowns, 25 rushing yards, and one rushing touchdown for 39.46 total points. Express Delivery notes he accomplished this without A.J. Brown and is spreading the ball around effectively, with Kyle Williams converting 3-of-3 targets for 91 yards and a touchdown. Maye is back on the Drake-bake train heading into Week 6 vs. the Jets.

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Isaiah Likely

PositiveUsage5:03

Isaiah Likely absolutely smashed in Week 5 with 11 catches on 13 targets for 94 yards and two touchdowns, posting 32.4 fantasy points. This marks his second game with multiple receiving touchdowns this season. Express Delivery notes that 61% of Jameis Winston's attempts went to Likely and Malik Neighbors combined, making them clearly the top two targets in the offense.

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J.K. Dobbins

NegativeRole19:18

J.K. Dobbins is the Denver running back most worth playing with if you're willing to take some risk; he scored a rushing touchdown against the Chargers in Week 5, which salvaged an otherwise quiet day.

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NegativeProjection31:58

J.K. Dobbins is the Denver running back giving off the most spark if you want to play with fire. He managed a rushing score in Week 5 vs. the Chargers, which saved his day. Express Delivery is not really interested in the other Denver running backs but sees Dobbins as the one with the most upside in the backfield.

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Jacoby Brissett

PositiveMatchup27:18

Jacoby Brissett was recommended as a streaming option against the Detroit Lions in Week 5 and delivered results despite an ugly performance. He completed 29 of 47 passes (not a great completion percentage) for 292 yards, three touchdowns, and one interception, plus two carries for 19 rushing yards, totaling over 25 fantasy points. Express Delivery notes this would mark the fifth straight quarterback to finish top eight at the position in Week 5 against the Detroit Lions.

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Jalen Hurts

NegativeProjection29:02

Hurts has been atrocious for fantasy managers to start the season and delivered another poor Week 5 performance; the loss of rushing upside (no longer mobile threat) combined with weak arm production and missing A.J. Brown (traded) and injured Devonta Smith has eliminated his fantasy value; benching him is justified.

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NegativeProjection48:04

Jalen Hurts' rushing touchdown production has collapsed dramatically through week 5. He had 12+ rushing touchdowns in three straight seasons and at least 10 in four straight seasons, but has only one rushing touchdown through the first five games of 2024. The speaker expected regression but not this severe or fast, noting the Eagles' offensive line issues as a contributing factor. This represents a major downgrade from his historical rushing upside that was core to his fantasy value.

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Jayden Daniels

PositiveProjection2:29

Despite pre-game concerns about re-injuring his elbow and potentially limiting his rushing volume, Jaden Daniels was unleashed in Week 5, carrying the ball nine times for 103 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns—his first two rushing scores since Week 9 of last season. He cleared 32 fantasy points for managers. Express Delivery emphasizes that football players get hurt on the field and recommends starting Daniels at the quarterback position given this level of production.

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Jaylen Warren

PositiveRole15:11

Jalen Warren is a must-start when Rico Dowdle is unavailable. In Week 5, he converted all six of his receiving looks for 87 receiving yards and a touchdown. Express Delivery notes that even if Dowdle returns, Warren's receiving game work suggests Aaron Rodgers is more locked on with Warren than Dowdle in the backfield. Warren has managed at least 125 scrimmage yards in three consecutive efforts.

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Justin Herbert

NegativeProjection36:31

Express Delivery is out on Justin Herbert at the quarterback spot due to the Chargers' winless record and offensive dysfunction; sacked five times in Week 5, with enough other quarterbacks available to stream instead. Recommends dropping Herbert and adding Stanley Yelnats over him.

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Keaton Mitchell

PositiveUsage37:30

Keaton Mitchell has shown explosive plays when the Chargers put the ball in his hands, suggesting secondary role upside in the backfield behind Omari Hampton.

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Kenyon Sadiq

NegativeInjury50:10

Kenyon Sadiq suffered another concussion, his second injury concern of the season, requiring monitoring for fantasy purposes.

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Kimani Vidal

NegativeUsage40:12

Kamani Vidal found the end zone in Week 5 for the Chargers, indicating some goal line opportunity in the backfield rotation.

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Kyle Monangai

NegativeInjury41:45

Kyle Monongai was not available for the Bears in Week 5, affecting the backfield composition.

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Ladd McConkey

NegativeRole38:00

Ladd McConkey can be a flex option if fully healthy and practicing all week, but Express Delivery would be out on him if he comes in banged up or limited, as the Chargers offense is bad enough that injury uncertainty makes him unreliable; in Week 5 he was a decoy and barely played.

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Luther Burden

PositiveRole26:58

Burden led the Bears in receiving yards with 47 despite being third in team targets in Week 5 against a Packers defense allowing the fifth-most yards after the catch; excels in space and is the only Bears receiver in flex contention currently, with upside tied to Caleb Williams' imminent return.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveUsage14:00

Matthew Golden, a former first-round pick, is finally showing the volume fantasy managers hoped for. In Week 5, he posted six catches for 123 yards on seven targets for 20.3 fantasy points. He has received seven targets in four of his first five games and has now posted a second triple-digit receiving yard effort this season. Express Delivery notes that targets in the Packers offense are clearly going to Christian Watson and Matthew Golden.

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Ollie Gordon II

PositiveProjection23:50

Ollie Gordon, a sixth-round pick, has scored a rushing touchdown in three consecutive games and is clearing 14+ fantasy points for managers in each. In Week 5, he posted 18 carries for 88 yards and 14.8 fantasy points with a rushing touchdown. Express Delivery initially questioned whether this was fluky touchdown luck, but after three consecutive weeks of end-zone production, there is now enough evidence to buy in. Gordon is on bye next week but has established himself as a legitimate fantasy asset.

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Parker Washington

PositiveProjection12:27

Parker Washington bounced back in Week 5 after trending downward (19.3 to 16.8 to 13 to 2 fantasy points over the prior four weeks). He posted six catches for 124 yards and two touchdowns on nine targets for 30.4 fantasy points. Express Delivery notes he looks great and is excited about the matchup against the Houston Texans next week, also praising the style points on his second touchdown.

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Quentin Johnston

NegativeUsage38:42

Quentin Johnston did not play in Week 5 for the Chargers, indicating continued lack of offensive role.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

PositiveUsage49:05

Ramondre Stevenson managers were pleased with his performance when Travon Henderson left the field, suggesting he saw increased workload and opportunity with Henderson sidelined.

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Roman Wilson

NegativeInjury50:05

Roman Wilson exited the game with a hand or wrist issue, creating uncertainty around his availability going forward.

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Rome Odunze

NegativeRole26:52

Dunze is less viable than Luther Burden in the Bears offense due to arm strength limitations of backup QBs; analysts recommend holding but not starting him until Caleb Williams returns.

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Saquon Barkley

NegativeProjection47:28

The speaker has lowered expectations on Saquon Barkley as a running back, citing the Eagles' offensive line issues as a contributing factor. Despite starting him, Express Delivery is less bullish on his fantasy ceiling than previously expected, suggesting the offensive line quality is constraining his production potential.

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T.J. Hockenson

NegativeInjury48:53

TJ Hockenson left the contest with a concussion and will be in the concussion protocol, requiring monitoring for fantasy purposes.

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Woody Marks

PositiveUsage50:00

Woody Marks played every single snap once David Montgomery exited the game with a groin injury. He is available in over 50% of ESPN fantasy leagues, making him a potential waiver wire target for teams needing running back depth.

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0:34And so, with that being said, what the fantasy?
0:37Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast.
0:40Oh my gosh, Drake Maye, Liz Loza. I mean you talked about having fun.
0:45Holy smokes, finally it looks like this kid is having fun playing football again.
0:49First three weeks, not fun. No. He looked very not good.
0:52Under 10 fantasy points for the first three straight weeks and then back-to-back games with over 26 fantasy points.
0:58Back-to-back games with three plus touchdowns, 374 passing yards, four passing touchdowns, plus 25 yards on the ground, and a rushing touchdown for 39.46 points.
1:05We love to see him back in that flow state, if you will.
1:09We were a little bit nervous to see if we could trust him in this matchup against a Raiders defense that we
1:15thought might be better in real life than people were anticipating.
1:19And yet, it does seem as though the positive momentum is working in his favor.
1:23Week six, he gets the Jets. So, I am back on the Drake-bake, excuse me, May train.
1:28Oh, I love that. And he did all of this as a reminder without A.J.
1:32Brown. His number one pass catcher is not even on the squad.
1:36Interestingly, Kyle Williams, a third-round pick from last year, showed his 4-4 speed in this one.
1:41He converted 3-3 for 91 yards and a touchdown.
1:43So, now Drake May is spreading the ball around, but it is benefiting him instead of hurting him.
1:49Yeah, I'm with you on that. Another quarterback that did not have one of his pass catchers, Jaden Daniels, also looked good, girl.
1:55The narrative heading into this game, obviously, was very apprehensive because there was so much fear around him potentially re-injuring his elbow, right?
2:02There was lots of, like, he's not going to run as much because he wants to keep that elbow safe.
2:08And yet, he carried the ball nine times for 103 rushing yards and two rushing scores.
2:13He was unleashed. I don't think you can sit him.
2:16I don't think you can worry about him getting hurt because guess what?
2:20I know this is going to sound trite, but football players get hurt on the football field.
2:25If he is going to be out there and starting, I will be starting Jaden Daniels because this level of game is
2:31exactly what you want from the quarterback spot. You got to hope that he is, like, now back to feeling himself.
2:37This was the first rushing score, two of them, like I said again, that he managed since week nine of last season, clearing 32 fantasy points for managers.
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2:58Are you kidding me? Girl, Isaiah Likely and Malik Neighbors both absolutely smashed in this one.
3:03I was worried that we got Isaiah Likely to start the season.
3:07Well, I got Isaiah Likely in this matchup. Okay, that's a different kind of Isaiah Likely for what it's worth, yes.
3:13But he was unbelievable here in week five. It wasn't just to start the season.
3:1711 catches, 94 yards, and two touchdowns with 13 targets.
3:20Second game with multiple receiving touchdowns this year. They're 32.4 fantasy points, but if that wasn't enough, Malik Neighbors was like, oh, you know what?
3:28I want 20 targets in this one, guys. And he got them.
3:31Yes, this game went into overtime, but Malik Neighbors last week, we were like, oh my goodness, is it clicking again?
3:37Is he finding himself? And yes, he is in fact who we thought he was.
3:42It wasn't a perfect game by any means, and the end resulting in a tie was certainly curious.
3:47But it was nice to see Malik Neighbors now clear 20 fantasy points in back-to-back efforts.
3:52He's also managed at least 100 receiving yards in back-to-back games.
3:55Here's the craziest part, Daniel. 61% of Jameis Winston's attempts went to these two players.
3:59Unbelievable. That's it. Unbelievable. We know. 61%. But we know where the ball is going to go, and we love that for fantasy.
4:06Yes, absolutely. Right now, as long as Jameis is the QB, you can tell that Malik Neighbors and Isaiah Likely are his top two targets.
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6:01And here we go. Cam Scadaboo, Liz, we just talked about how his teammates were really good.
6:06He kind of wasn't good. I know, I don't want to start a biggest takeaway on a negative note, but we have
6:12to talk about Cam Scadaboo because he has really underwhelmed.
6:15I was very bullish on him heading into this matchup, especially because he was facing the Commanders.
6:20And yet, while he did touch the ball 15 times, he barely cleared 7 fantasy points, just 59 rushing yards and 12 receiving yards.
6:27He's only had one touchdown this season, and that was all the way back in Week 1 versus Dallas.
6:33You know, and it would have been something if it was like, okay, well, maybe he's just like splitting a lot of time with the other guys.
6:41Guess what? He played 63% of the snaps in this one, only 19% for both Najee Harris and Tyrone Tracy, which means he was out there a ton.
6:49They're just not utilizing him the way that they kind of did last year.
6:53He's, has he not just become a touchdown-dependent RB2, like 15 other touchdown-dependent RB2s right now?
6:58I mean, there's some question about whether or not he's fully healthy coming off of a really catastrophic injury.
7:04He doesn't seem as physical in terms of the way his punch hits on the ground, right?
7:09He is still a physical player, but it's not managing the same sort of explosiveness and strength that we've seen.
7:15It also is worth mentioning that he fumbled on Washington's 24-yard line with just two minutes left in overtime.
7:20Lost that fumble too. So a really tough way to go out here.
7:24However, I don't think that you can sit him particularly in week six because we have the Bengals, the Lions, the Dolphins, and the Vikings all on by.
7:32So you're going to be stuck with him and hoping for better days.
7:36Yeah, you're probably going to have to just hope that he gets into the end zone like we need him to, to be able to deliver those numbers.
7:44Parker Washington got to the end zone a couple times.
7:47Oh, he looks so good in London town. And I talked about him earlier this week.
7:52I was a little bit nervous because he has trended downwards from 19.3 to 16.8 to 13 fantasy points to two fantasy points last week against Cincy.
8:00But then this week, six catches, 124 yards, two touchdowns on nine targets, 30.4 fantasy points.
8:05They get the Houston Texans next week. Again, really excited about that matchup.
8:09Also, I know style points don't count in fantasy.
8:11Oh my gosh. But if they did, that second touchdown would have gotten him at least five more.
8:17Yes, I am with you on that one. We love Parker Washington.
8:20He has crushed it. Absolutely. Not the only wide receiver to crush it though.
8:24Ooh, Christian Watson continues to catch bombs. He converted six of eight for an I love you.
8:29That's 143 receiving yards plus two touchdowns. He went over 32 fantasy points.
8:33He now has six receiving scores through the first five games of the season, but he's not the only Packers wide out to produce.
8:40No, he's not. Matthew Golden, six catches, 123 yards on seven targets, seven targets in four of his first five games.
8:46Liz, like we are seeing some of the volume that we were hoping for from this former first round wide receiver, 20.3 fantasy points in this one.
8:54It feels good to feel like we know where the targets in this offense are going to go.
9:00It's Christian Watson and Matthew Golden. Those seem like the top two targets without question.
9:04Second triple digit effort for Matthew Golden so far this season as well.
9:08Love that. Absolutely. Let's talk about Jalen Warren, Liz.
9:11I think the easiest or the. Yeah, I think the easiest if then statement in the NFL is the Pittsburgh Steelers running back situation.
9:18If there is no Rico Dowdle, Jalen Warren is a must start in your lineup.
9:22You said if then statement, but then you didn't say that then.
9:26Well, you know what? If there is no Rico Dowdle, then Jalen Warren is automatic.
9:30Thank you. Yes. I still think, though, given his production through the air in this one, he converted all six of his
9:37looks for 87 receiving yards and he caught a touchdown through the air.
9:40You know that Rico Dowdle isn't going to see that play.
9:44And also, isn't it fascinating that Aaron Rodgers last season targeted the heck out of Kenneth Gainwell?
9:49He moved on, didn't want Jalen Warren. And now Jalen Warren's the guy looking pretty good.
9:53Obviously, it's worth mentioning, right, that Michael Pittman is now on IR.
9:57So Warren working a bit as a safety valve here, too.
10:00And Roman Wilson did get banged up in this game.
10:03Even if Rico Dowdle does come back, we're still going to be starting Jalen Warren.
10:08We're not going to be expecting this level of volume.
10:11But I agree with you. He's going to get the receiving game working.
10:14It still feels like Aaron Rodgers is more locked on with him than Dowdle in this backfield.
10:19At least 125 scrimmage yards in three consecutive efforts.
10:22Did the Titans amass 125 total scrimmage yards as a team this year?
10:26Are we going to talk about this? Because this one really, really hurt.
10:30Gosh, we really thought. I took it personal. I'm the Michael Jordan meme on this one.
10:34Oh, girl. We thought against the Houston Texans, who have given up boatloads of points to the wide receivers.
10:40Over 18 fantasy points to a wide receiver in three straight games?
10:44Four straight games. And then we thought, hey, Carnell Tate coming off of a huge game last week, by the way.
10:50And a really productive effort the week before. We thought there was momentum.
10:54Maybe Mike Clay is right. Maybe momentum is a myth.
10:57I don't want to give him the credit for saying that.
11:00I don't want to give him that credit either because, I mean, for a lot of reasons.
11:05But Carnell Tate, Liz, five targets in this one for only one catch and six yards.
11:10What do you do right now? If you're a Carnell Tate manager, is he still a flex for you?
11:15Do you look at this offense and say, you know what?
11:18I may have to start him some weeks, but I would rather not with all the bye weeks that are in front of us.
11:26We have a lot of buys. We have a lot of injuries.
11:29We know the talent is there. We've seen the draft capital.
11:32I think this is a Cam Ward problem. We know that Cam Ward has had numerous offensive coordinators over his very short career.
11:39But in this game particularly, he averages 2.9 air yards per completion.
11:43And he completed just two of 12 passes thrown for 10 or more yards downfield.
11:47What's frustrating is the week before, Carnell Tate caught three, I believe, passes of 15 or more yards.
11:52So it's going to be streaky. Yeah, and we love this matchup.
11:56That is it, I think. That is it. This Titans team is very streaky.
12:00But ultimately, talent breaks tiebreakers. Tiebreakers. And so if I have one of those that I'm looking to break, I'm going to
12:07have to lean Tate's way because of the talent.
12:09I'm with you on that line of thinking. Speaking of talent wins tiebreakers, I think Jamar, excuse me, Chase Brown is incredibly talented.
12:16But this week against Miami, Liz, was supposed to be a smash spot.
12:20I just, there were two running backs that I really loved so far to start the season.
12:25They were Amari and Hampton. He's not been very good.
12:28They were also Chase Brown. Chase Brown has been my guy.
12:31I've stand for Chase Brown three years in a row.
12:34And again, this year, he started slow. This week, 13 carries for 39 yards, only three catches for 21 yards, a total of seven fantasy points.
12:42I'm pretty sure that Samaje Pirine actually got in the end zone rather than Chase Brown.
12:46What do you do if you're a Chase Brown manager?
12:49Because it has not been good, just like last year, to start the season.
12:53Well, I also think we have to give him a little bit of credit because he did manage over 19 fantasy points
13:00against a very tough Jacksonville run defense a week ago, right?
13:03So there is evidence that this can be done.
13:0611 catches, which is what we love. We do love the receiving game work.
13:10You and I were talking about this while we were watching the games a little bit offline, so I'll just pull the curtain back.
13:17But we said maybe the Bengals are one of these teams that, like the previous iteration of the Lions, maybe just plays up to the level of competition.
13:25You said play up or play down. Plays up or plays down to the level of competition.
13:30I think that's maybe the Bengals offense right now.
13:33Yeah, I definitely feel like you have seen that with these guys because I have watched this offense drop 40 points on
13:40some squads that I'm like, wow, Joe Burrow is out there slinging it.
13:43Jamar Chase is clearly the best wide receiver in the universe.
13:47And then there are weeks where it's like, is this the same Bengals offense that I just watched a couple of weeks ago?
13:53Ultimately, I don't think you can pull away from Chase because of his versatility on the ground and through the air.
14:00And the running back position. You're never going to just sneeze at that.
14:03No, no. Five points in the receiving game. I'm going to be very excited about.
14:08A bye here in week six. We talked about this.
14:11It's going to be a bunch of teams on bye.
14:14So this is going to be one of the squads you're going to have to figure out how to deal with.
14:20And this one's going to be triggering to you.
14:23So you're going to just have to take a little bit of time here.
14:27We got another one, though, on the other side of that game.
14:30Liz, Ollie Gordon smashed again. Your favorite player. Dude, I was so confused about Devaney Channing.
14:35I am watching him get agitated right now. Like in person, he's starting to shake a little bit.
14:40Because I feel it. I like. OK, I drafted Devaney Channing in a couple of leagues and only a handful.
14:46And after Devaney Channing started so slow, it's like, OK, I think this offense is just cooked.
14:51I don't think that there's anyone that are going to want to start here.
14:55No lanes that are going to open up. Doesn't feel good.
14:59Scoring opportunities. Unfortunately, Devaney Channing gets hurt. That sucks for everybody.
15:02And then after that, Ollie Gordon comes out. Scores a touchdown in like relief that first game after Devaney Channing gets hurt.
15:08OK, I'm not buying into that, though. Like he got lucky.
15:12He got in the end zone. It's frustrating. Like the drive after Devaney Channing gets hurt.
15:16Yeah, but then you can talk that away, right?
15:19You can explain that away by saying you don't chase touchdowns.
15:22This is fluky. And then last week, he gets in the end zone again.
15:26Yeah. And then this week, he gets in the end zone again.
15:3018 carries for 88 yards, 14.8 fantasy points, a rushing touchdown in three consecutive games.
15:34Liz, was Devaney Channing not good at football? Or is Ollie Gordon just getting super lucky and we are getting all of
15:41the bonus touchdowns that we can get out of his game right now?
15:45You only know what you know, right? And this is a sixth round pick who's coming in and clearing 14 fantasy points
15:51for managers three weeks in a row. Now we have enough evidence to believe that there are some, again, he's on buy
15:58next week, but there is enough evidence here to really start to buy in.
16:02I'm going to ask you a question. Yes. Knowing that both, I believe, Cincinnati and Miami are on buy next week, not
16:08knowing their matchups in week seven, would you start Ollie Gordon ahead of Chase Brown?
16:13Oh, no. No, I wouldn't. Because of the receiving work?
16:16Because of the receiving work and just because of the touchdown equity in the Bengals offense is, I think, on a weekly
16:22basis just going to be higher than the Miami Dolphins.
16:25Doesn't mean that Ollie Gordon isn't going to find the end zone.
16:29I just think that the Bengals score more offense.
16:31Can't chase those, sure. Or score more touchdowns. If you streamed Jacoby Brissett, we told you to do it against the Detroit Lions.
16:38Liz, did it in fact work? It did work.
16:41It looked ugly. This was not a pretty effort, but points are points.
16:45Brissett completed 29 of 47. That's not a great completion percentage.
16:48No, it is not. But he did pass for nearly 300 yards, 292, three touchdowns, just one interception.
16:53He also carried the ball twice for 19 rushing yards.
16:56Don't hate that at all. And he managed over 25 fantasy points for managers.
17:00He's probably going to finish, what, in the top seven at the position for week five?
17:05Yep. And if that happens, that would be five straight quarterbacks to finish top eight in the position to start the season against my Detroit Lions.
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18:40It's definitely enough for me, dog. New segment here, Liz Loza.
18:43We're enough weeks into this season that there's players, we're just like, no.
18:47I don't want to do this anymore. There's whole teams.
18:50There are whole teams. Whole offenses. So then let's start with one.
18:54Let's start with the Denver Broncos. When you want to talk about the Denver Broncos, we're going to start at the quarterback position.
19:00Just work our way down here. Rapid fire succession.
19:03Bo Nix. In or out? Yes or no on Bo Nix?
19:06I'm out too. He's been under 14.5 fantasy points in four of his five games.
19:11I'm just not interested. What about either of the two running backs in this, or three running backs in this backfield in Denver?
19:18Well, J.K. Dobbins, I think if you are going to play with a little bit of fire, that is the one that's
19:24giving off the most spark, if you will. He did manage a rushing score in this game against the Chargers.
19:30So he saved his day with that. But otherwise, I'm not really interested.
19:34And you know what? I just want to talk about the Broncos for a second.
19:38In terms of them being so confounding since the top of the season, there was a lot of discussion heading into this
19:45game about Sean Payton taking the clipboard back. He was going to be more involved in the play calling.
19:50We knew he wasn't going to be able to help himself and eventually was going to take it over.
19:56But it was like, oh, can Cortland Sutton? Something happened.
19:59What? Jalen Waddell, his wife, drafted Jalen. That story's so flippin' old by now.
20:03But I don't trust Sean Payton. He is sly like a fox.
20:07I mean, maybe that's what makes him such a respected and creative play caller.
20:11But in this game, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, I believe, seven different rushers were utilized.
20:16And 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
20:19I've lost track. Nine different pass catchers targeted. So seven different people ran the football.
20:24Nine different people caught the football. Sounds like a good old spreading around of the offense.
20:28And the highest number of targets was thrown at Jalen Waddell with five.
20:32Five targets. That's not like a voluminous target. We talked about Isaiah Likely.
20:36We talked about Malik Nabors more than tripling that number.
20:39This is incredibly hard to deal with. Coming into the season, Jalen Waddell was supposed to be maybe a wide receiver too.
20:46Like a top 18 player. Yeah, like a decent wide receiver too.
20:49And then Cortland Sutton was going to be a flex option for us.
20:53At this point, I think Cortland Sutton is a bench unless you have no other better options given injuries and bye weeks.
20:59I mean, you see it his day with a touchdown today.
21:03Sure. So that's the game of roulette that you're going to play here.
21:07Yes, but it is roulette. Yes. Because some weeks it will be Cortland Sutton.
21:11Other weeks, I still feel like Jalen Waddell is the most talented wide receiver in the group.
21:16He'd be the one that I would default to the most.
21:19But he's more of a flex option for me than a guaranteed, there is no guarantee at this point, wide receiver too in this Broncos offense.
21:27No, I think a lot of it has to do with the quarterback position.
21:31I agree with you. But I think that Sean Payton will go back in the lab and continue to confound us, which is why I am out.
21:39I'm also out on the team they played in terms of the offense, and that's the Chargers.
21:44Oh, so... How about you? I think Mike McDaniel needs to just either go back into the lab or come out of the lab.
21:51He's got to do something completely different than whatever he has been doing.
21:55The lab isn't working. Tear it down and build a new lab right now.
21:59I mean, it's giving like the wizard in the Wizard of Oz.
22:02Like don't look behind the curtain. Because I think there are a lot of smoke and mirrors, at least in terms of reputation going on here.
22:10This is a winless team. Who else is winless in the NFL right now?
22:14I believe the Titans and the Dolphins, Liz. So if you had started this season saying that the Chargers would have the
22:21same record as either the Titans or the Dolphins five weeks in, would you have believed it?
22:26Five weeks in with the expectations that we had with this squad and Mike McDaniels taking over the offense?
22:31Absolutely not. We're not starting Justin Herbert anymore. We're out on him at the quarterback spot.
22:36There's enough other quarterbacks to be able to stream.
22:39At the running back spot, Omari and Hampton still, I think, the best running back in this backfield.
22:44He's a little bit touchdown dependent. It is touchdown dependent.
22:47But he has the touchdown equity, the goal line equity here.
22:50But we've seen Keaton Mitchell have some explosive plays here when they want to put the ball in his hands.
22:56When it comes to the wide receivers, here's the thing with Ladd McConkie.
23:00If Ladd McConkie is fully healthy, practices in full the entire week, he is good enough to be a flex option given what his skill set is.
23:08But if like he did this week where he came in and basically didn't play and was just a decoy the whole
23:14time, if he comes in and he's banged up or there's any question, this offense is bad enough that you don't want that kind of Ladd McConkie.
23:22I would be out at that point. Quentin Johnston didn't play in this.
23:26And do you not want to know who was the most targeted pass catcher in this game?
23:31Do you know? Do you know the answer? No, but I don't think I do.
23:36Charlie Kohler. No. Blocking tight end. He converted four of three for 37 receiving yards.
23:40Also, Charlie Kohler was supposed to be helping this offensive line find holes for Omari and Hampton and protect Justin Herbert.
23:46Justin Herbert was sacked five times in this game.
23:49Oh my gosh. It is bananas. I'm out on Justin Herbert.
23:52I'm with you. Would you drop him? I would drop him.
23:55Yes. I would add Stanley Yelnats over Justin Herbert.
23:58Oh my gosh. Well, next week we won't be able to stream the Lions.
24:02That's true. Whoever's playing the Lions is they're on by.
24:05That's true. Yeah. Yes. Also, as it pertains to Hampton, I think he scored three times this season over five games now.
24:12It was Kamani Vidal who found the end zone in this one.
24:15So again, you can play that game, but you're not going to hit every time.
24:20Yeah. Amari and Hampton just unfortunately in that mix of a touchdown dependent RB2 with your Bears.
24:25Oh, I knew we were going to go here.
24:27I didn't like it. Well, we have to eventually.
24:30This is, they're not quite, but also they are kind of the Chargers because you guys had very high expectations for fantasy managers coming into the season.
24:38It doesn't help when your head coach is like, I want to score more points than anyone else has ever scored in the history of the league.
24:46Sure. So we have like very big expectations for all these players.
24:49Quarterback spot. Okay. Kayla's been hurt. Obviously we got Tyson Bajant and or Case Keenum.
24:54Neither of which have the arm strength that Williams presents with.
24:57Correct. Not even close to the same level of quarterback.
25:00No questions there. DeAndre Swift has been a start and will continue to be a start.
25:05And no Kyle Monongai in this one, but Swift did find the end zone.
25:09Yep. He only rushed the ball nine times for 43 rushing yards.
25:12And then that aforementioned touchdown, but also the Bears were in catch-up mode the whole time.
25:17So he wasn't going to get a lot of rushing work.
25:20He did, you know, see some action through the air.
25:23Caught four balls for 30 receiving yards. Was that more or less than Colston Loveland in this one, Liz Loza?
25:29Colston Loveland caught two of five for 19 receiving yards.
25:32Okay. So let's talk about where we're at on him because it would be really easy just to be like, Hey, I've
25:39decided I'm going to bench Colston Loveland from here on out with bi-weeks upon us and injuries.
25:44Would you say, I hear you? You can do that.
25:47I do think I'm benching him. I think that fantasy managers are more frustrated than that.
25:51They would want to drop him, which I wouldn't do because we do have Caleb Williams coming back.
25:57And after this display of quarterbacking, if you can even consider it a display, a display of what, but I mean, Case
26:03Keenum is, I'm a little, I'm a little, I know I can see it.
26:07You know what? Mike Dick just died. You know how I just got real agitated?
26:12Oh, okay. Okay. You're right. I really thought there was going to be a haunting at Lambeau Field and we were going
26:18to have DeCoach watching down from above. And Luther Burden was going to go off against a defense, the Green Bay Packers
26:25defense that is decimated with injuries, allowing the fifth most yards after the catch.
26:29What does Luther Burden do best? He's fantastic in space.
26:32And yet, while he did lead, no, he didn't even lead the team in targets.
26:36He was third in the team in targets, but he led the team in receiving yards with 47.
26:42Give me a break. However, okay, back to my point.
26:45I just went on a little bit of a tangent.
26:47Just bear with me a second. I'm in the field.
26:50No, we're barren with you. The fact is, Caleb Williams, I think, is going to come back faster than maybe planned from that injury.
26:58After seeing this? Yeah. I don't think they can slow play him back.
27:01Absolutely not at all. And that is why you cannot drop Colston Loveland.
27:05Correct. I do think that eventually you might even, Burden is the only one here that I would put in flex contention.
27:12Right now? Yes. Because of the arm strength of the quarterbacks, I don't think that Romo Dunze is as viable as Burden.
27:18Yeah, I understand where Rome is utilized within this offense.
27:21You've got to uphold on them. You can't drop them because when Caleb comes back, we have to hope and imagine and
27:28manifest that there will be an uptick in production.
27:30And we know that that date where he's coming back is sooner rather than later.
27:35I mean, there's already buzz right now on Sunday night that it could be week six.
27:39Is there a chance that Jalen Hurts gets benched?
27:42Because boy, oh boy. He's not getting benched. Get out of here.
27:46You know what? He's getting benched in my fantasy lineup, Liz Loza.
27:49That's fine. He has been atrocious for us as fantasy managers to start the season, unfortunately, and another really bad one here this week.
27:56Yeah, that tush don't got no push anymore. There is no more rushing upside.
28:00Liz, we've talked about this. You and I specifically went into this.
28:04We talked about how if he does not have that rushing upside, what's he going to look like?
28:09He's going to have to do a lot more things with his arm.
28:13He's not been doing things with his arm. Well, I mean, obviously, we all know that A.J.
28:18Brown is no longer on the team. Devonta Smith still hurt.
28:21Yes, out with this one. And this one, yep.
28:24The Eagles do draw the Panthers next week. So if Smith is back, then I think he's absolutely in play.
28:30I mean, he was pretty much the wide receiver we were most excited about.
28:34Dallas Goddard did return in this game in London, and he made a little bit of noise.
28:39So I think those are probably the only two.
28:42The backfield is non-existent. Non-existent. Non-existent without Saquon Barkley.
28:44I'm not interested. Honestly, with Saquon Barkley, the only reason I...
28:48Not the only reason I'm starting him. I have lowered my expectations on who Saquon Barkley is as a running back, in
28:54part because of this Eagles offensive line as well.
28:57The reason why Jalen Hurts was ever valuable to us was because he would have so many rushing touchdowns.
29:02He had three straight seasons with 12-plus rushing touchdowns, had at least 10 rushing touchdowns in four straight seasons.
29:08He had at least eight rushing touchdowns in five straight seasons.
29:11Liz, through the first five games of the year, he has one rushing touchdown.
29:15We thought there might be a regression, but I didn't think it would disappear.
29:20Not like this. This was much faster and much harder than I thought it was going to be.
29:25So definitely not great, unfortunately, in that one. Speaking of things that are not great, Liz, we also have a bunch of injuries we got to get into.
29:33Ouch, baby. Very ouch. TJ Hawkinson left the contest with a concussion.
29:37He'll be in the protocol, so keep an eye on that.
29:40Casey Concepcion also left with a head injury. Travion Henderson exited with a right ankle issue.
29:45Ramondre Stevenson managers were obviously pleased at his performance without Henderson on the field.
29:49David Montgomery, this one really hurt. He had a groin issue.
29:52Now, obviously, I expect Eric Moody is going to talk in his waiver wire piece a lot about Woody Marks, who played every single snap once Monty exited.
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30:05Roman Wilson, who I mentioned a little bit earlier, he exited with a hand or a wrist issue.
30:10Kenyon Sadiq, another concussion. That's not the first time he's been banged up, though, a different kind of issue.
30:16Quinchan Judkins was seen wearing a walking boot after the Jets game.
30:19He hurt his foot in week five. And Debo Samuel exited with a hamstring issue.
30:24Yeah, Debo's looked not great. So we will continue to monitor all of those as well.
30:28And as we said earlier on in the show, with bi-weeks upon us here in week six, Liz, we're going to have
30:35the Bengals, the Lions, the Dolphins, and the Vikings on top of all of the names that you just mentioned to contend
30:41with when we're looking at setting our lives. I think we're going to have to dig in and live in some discomfort.
30:48And my hope is that if we do that work, we will come out the other side, hopefully better for it and
30:54maybe with a higher winning percentage as well. I love that.
30:58That's a great way to... Optimism, baby. Yes, I love that.
31:01All right. With that being said, make sure that you hang out with us on Monday.
31:06You may be listening to this on Monday. Me, Liz, and Field recapping all of week five on a regular Fantasy Focus podcast.
31:12On Tuesday, it's going to be Liz, Mike, and I diving into Monday Night Football as a recap and the waiver wire.
31:19And on Wednesday, Liz and I are going to be taping Facts vs.
31:23Feelings here in person one more time before you leave to go back to LA.
31:27That's right. That'll come back out on Thursday as it always does.
31:31All right, guys. That's it for us today. Thank you for hanging out with us.
31:35Go check out The Normal Show. We'll see you guys a little bit later.
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