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0:22Fantasy, you in the 0601-0. What's up friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football alongside Field Yates and Mike Clay.
0:27My name is Daniel Dopp. Excited to dive into a very fun week 5 ranking show a lot on tap.
0:33How are you gentlemen doing today? Doing great, thank you.
0:36How are you? I'm doing great as well. Michael?
0:38I'm just fine. Just fine? I'm just fine today.
0:41Eight days up in? I think you're awesome. Oh, thank you.
0:44You're great. Well, now I'm better. That's what I was fishing for right there.
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1:04to the winner of your fantasy league. Presumably it will be Mike in most of the leagues.
1:09That's what we think. Thank you. You're right. All right, guys.
1:12We got a couple things we're going to dive into today.
1:15Week 5 rankings I talked about. We got a bunch of stuff we're going to talk about there.
1:20Some very fun things. We got two teams on bye.
1:23So the first little bits of bye weeks are now upon us.
1:26We got a random ranking at the end of the show that is always going to be a good time.
1:32Yep. We're doing some fantasy face-offs. Last week it was me and Mike versus each other.
1:36Fields, you were the judge. This time it's going to be me and Field versus each other.
1:41And Mike is going to be the judge. I want to see which Daniel Dopp shows up because he evolved last week.
1:47He did. Very common kind at first. And then he was kind of in the middle.
1:52And the last week you were screaming. Well, it's because I didn't realize I was going up against the Terminator when I was going to be doing this.
2:00So I realized you did. I know. That's Mike.
2:02Yeah. The most pragmatic, thoughtful fantasy analyst on the planet.
2:05Yep. We got a little bit of news that we're going to get into before we dive into some rankings.
2:11Field, Yates, starting with one of the biggest quarterbacks we have in the league.
2:15Yeah. Lamar Jackson has a slim chance to play on Sunday night against the Falcons.
2:19Also reporting that this could be a multi-week absence.
2:21When there's reporting that it could be a multi-week absence, it makes you feel like the present week is very unlikely to happen.
2:28And Tyler, Tyler Huntley will take over as the quarterback if Lamar is out on Sunday night against the Falcons, the resurgent Falcons.
2:34Mike has already removed Lamar from the projection. So if you see a zero next to him, that is by design.
2:40The only player that this really impacts from a fantasy perspective is Zay Flowers.
2:44Yeah. How much of a discount can you put on Zay Flowers when the guy's been absolutely electric when he has been playing?
2:50Not enough for him to be outside of your fantasy lineups, but certainly the optimal version of Zay Flowers includes Lamar on the field.
2:57Yeah. Huntley's passing in his career, the numbers haven't been that great.
3:01I looked at his 16 games or 17 career games in which he's played at least 80% of the snaps, a total of 17 touchdowns.
3:08Only 12 were passing. The 12 passing touchdowns in 17 games, a little under 180 passing yards per game.
3:13We know he can add value with his legs.
3:15However, two of those games were last season and check this out.
3:19So Zay Flowers averaged 13.6 fantasy points per game, two fine games, one pretty good game, one average game.
3:24Derek Henry, 32.6 fantasy points per game. He had that one like four touchdown game.
3:28So yeah, I mean, I think you, you know, in the projections, obviously the offensive projection for their scoring goes down a little bit, right?
3:35Naturally, you're going from Lamar to Huntley, but they're going to give it to Henry as much as possible.
3:41He moved down a couple spots in my ranks, but he'll be fine.
3:44I'm with you. So Flowers and Derek should be fine.
3:47Just want to say that was awesome analysis. Thoughtful as usual.
3:50Very well put together. However. Oh, that's it. Thanks.
3:53Oh, that was really nice. By the way, I did get in my ear, Keith Lipscomb wanted me to tell you guys
3:59that his name is actually pronounced former Pro Bowl quarterback, Tyler Huntley.
4:02He didn't do the whole government name there. Yes.
4:05My apologies on this. You're right. Mike, you guys remember just before my shoulder exploded on the beach at Baja Mar.
4:11Yes. I took a photo with a guy wearing a suit.
4:14Oh, you probably did. Yeah. That's what it, that's in my head.
4:17I can't not think about that. Didn't Shudder make it last year?
4:20Or who went? Shudder make it last year. Yeah.
4:23Remember when Mac Jones biddy for like 70 yards?
4:25That was awesome. And you will not be surprised to learn that the Pro Bowl is now over.
4:30It's over. We're not doing it anymore. It's true.
4:33We jumped the shark and now it's over. Lane Johnson.
4:36Lane Johnson. Yeah. Shout out to Lane Johnson. What an awesome career.
4:39I mean, just one of the anchors of an elite, maybe the best offensive line play in the league over the past decade.
4:46I mean, they've been nothing. Shout out to that team.
4:48Jeff Stoutland, Howie Roseman, finding these players like Jordan Mailata and putting that together.
4:52It seems like it's going the wrong way now.
4:55Obviously with Lane retiring, the injuries, Landon's on IR and Cam Juergens is hurt right now.
4:59Jordan Mailata is getting older. Like those days might be behind us.
5:03The Eagles have a lot of work to do to fix things along that offensive line.
5:07And this is going to affect things. It already has so far this season.
5:11I didn't realize quite how bad their efficiency has been as a team this year because defense is underachieved a little bit too.
5:18If you combine offensive and defensive EPA, the Eagles are 31st in the NFL.
5:2231st in the NFL. 27th offensively, 26th defensively. Titans ahead of them or Titans behind them, I guess I should say.
5:27I think offense. Good question. Is it Miami? I thought it was Miami.
5:31Yeah. But yeah, it's been a rough go. If you look at, obviously this is going to affect offensive line play.
5:37At some point they'll get Landon Dickerson back, but they're already 9th in pass block win rate this season, which is fine,
5:43but 27th in run block win rate. And that's the more notable one because we've seen that.
5:48They're really struggling to get their running game going.
5:50So I'm concerned about this. I have major concerns about the Eagles due to poor offensive efficiency going back to last year,
5:57but also the injuries are just really piling up.
5:59Now you lose Lane. It might be a long season for Philly.
6:02Yep. One quick thing from me. Great analysis by Mike, by the way.
6:06It was great analysis. Thank you. Great job, Michael.
6:09Agreed. Thank you. Seattle. Are you just buttering up the judge for later on in the show?
6:13Why would you just say that? All right. Interesting.
6:16Seattle really quickly. The old bait and switch made us think that maybe they were going to sign Joe Mixon.
6:21Surprise. No, they're not. It is still going to be Emmanuel Wilson.
6:25He's ranked as a top 20 running back for us this week.
6:28The second most added player off of waivers. So for now, more short term than long term, but Emmanuel Wilson going to
6:34stay in the low end RB2 flex radar for us.
6:37Foot injury that cost Joe Mixon all of last year, a very surprising, not surprising, but a very mysterious injury that cost
6:43him 2025 appears to still be a problem in 2026.
6:46I kind of assumed Joe Mixon was done playing professional football.
6:49Then this past week, it's like, oh, maybe not.
6:52The answer might be that yes. In fact, Joe Mixon's career could well be over.
6:56All right. Let's dive into the week five rankings.
6:58We're going to start at the quarterback position. Yay.
7:01A reminder, we got two teams on by this week.
7:04We're talking about the Carolina Panthers and the Kansas City Chiefs.
7:07So no Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, no Bryce Young, who has been fantastic to start the season.
7:11One through 10. We got Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels, Jared Goff, Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford, Jacoby Brissett at seven.
7:17Dak Prescott at eight. And Drake May and Brock Purdy tied there at nine.
7:21Jacoby Brissett, first time inside the top 10. And taking on the Detroit Lions in a great conversation right there.
7:27So he is a must start this week against the Lions, 11 through 20.
7:31Tyler Shuck, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Bo Nix, Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Sam Darnold, CJ Stroud, and Tyson Bajan.
7:37That rounds out the top 20. Jalen Hurts outside the top 12 again, guys.
7:41This is three straight weeks under 16 and a half fantasy points.
7:44Back to back bad weeks. Doesn't feel like it's going to get any better anytime soon, unfortunately.
7:49I forget her name. I think it's Marie Quando.
7:51I bet our producer Addison knows. She had the Netflix, the popular Netflix show where she would come in and she would organize your house.
7:58Yes. And if it brought you joy, you would keep it.
8:01Yes. And if it didn't, you would throw it away.
8:04Does Jalen Hurts bring you joy to starts right now?
8:07No. Not throwing him away isn't going to the waiver, but like put him on the bench.
8:12He's on the bench. Now is an easy way to think about the Jalen Hurts start sit conversation.
8:17Is Drake May still on the bench or did what he did last week elevate him into potential starting?
8:22Trending him back up. Trending up is Drake May.
8:25The thing that I liked the most from Drake May, other than the fantasy points this past weekend, was that I thought
8:31that Drake May was allowed to weaponize his legs.
8:33He's an elite, elite athlete for a quarterback. He can really do damage as he is now fourth in the NFL amongst
8:39quarterback rushing yards, fifth in quarterback rushing attempts, over 50 rushing yards last week.
8:43And they now draw the Raiders, which kind of a hard defense to figure out exactly how good they are or are not.
8:50They play the Dolphins. So 25% of their games this season have come against the Dolphins.
8:54That right away gives you some pause about how real they are or are not.
8:58The Chargers also on their ledger. That offense stinks.
9:01The Saints, a team that I think has offensive talent but gets in their own way.
9:05And the Chiefs, who put up 30 plus points against the Raiders last week.
9:09So they got the job done largely on the ground.
9:12The Raiders are middle of the pack. They are 16th in fantasy points per game allowed to opposing quarterbacks.
9:18All of these are round ways of me to say, I don't exactly know that this is a defense that we should be scared of for Drake May.
9:25I also don't think this is like Drake May facing off against the Lions this upcoming weekend.
9:30The most fantasy points scored by a quarterback in the four games so far this season?
9:35Tyler Shuck, who had 23.8 in week three. Some of that was playing from behind, what the Saints often do.
9:40But of note, Drake May could well be down, not just A.J.
9:44Brown, who's ineligible for another week. And it doesn't sound like he's going to play in week six, but we'll get to that in week six.
9:51But Mac Hollins, who we talked about as like maybe the Patriots wide receiver one or two last week.
9:56And he was, along with Romeo Dobbs, until he got hurt.
9:59Doesn't sound like Mac Hollins would be available this weekend.
10:02So even against an okay defense, even without his weapons, I still think that Drake May deserves to be inside the top 10 of quarterbacks.
10:09And you love to see it because after this, Drake May does have a couple of very, very notable matchups for QBs.
10:15The Jets and the Bears amongst the teams around the corner for the Patriots.
10:19Yeah, love it. We hope that he would get through them first three games, which were brutal matchups.
10:24And he obviously struggled and kind of turned the corner against more palatable at the very minimum defenses.
10:29And so far, so good. That's one. Let's see if we can do it again this week.
10:34Don't think we're quite at the point where we can say, you know, Drake May, if we redrafted quarterbacks right now, would be quarterback two, three or four.
10:42But A.J. Brown returns, schedule. I'm not saying softens up to the point where it was last year, but just is a little more league average.
10:49And Drake May could easily be a guy that we just stop talking about where we rank him.
10:54It's just assumed that he's going to be somewhere in that first six to eight of QBs.
10:59Field and I are in a group chat with a bunch of Michigan men.
11:03And Mike Clay is known as a perennial Jared Goff hater.
11:06Yes. Except for here in week five, it appears, in which he's getting some flowers, my friend.
11:11Yeah. We talk about Goff as not a lineup block pretty much ever, except for when we're streaming.
11:16You know, when we're streaming, Matt, do you have a question?
11:19Well, I was just going to say in that same group chat where the rest of the group calls you a Jared Goff hater.
11:26I knew this was going to happen. I call you a handsome Jared Goff optimist.
11:30Yes. Hold on. And just generally kind, well-intentioned individual.
11:32I'm keeping score of compliments for a leader. So four-nothing lead here for Field.
11:36I'm not complimenting. I'm just stating facts. Wow. Well, hey, I like it.
11:40I keep track of this mentally and on paper now.
11:43Leading the witness. There's so many I can't keep track.
11:46Anyway, yeah, big Jared Goff streaming fan. We talked to, you saw Jacoby Pruset there too.
11:50Both Goff and Pruset are streaming options this week.
11:53First of all, Goff has been good lately. 19-plus fantasy points in three straight games.
11:57Nine touchdown passes this year. Zero interceptions. So he's really protected the ball well.
12:01And the passing volume has been exactly what you need for him to hang in the streaming conversation.
12:06Top five and pass attempts. Completions, yards, and touchdowns so far.
12:09Those all seem to matter in fantasy. Last time I checked, so pretty huge.
12:13And of course, Arizona, they've allowed the most passing touchdowns so far this season with 11.
12:17Also, 9.1 yards per pass attempt allowed. That is highest in the NFL.
12:21It has been brutal for that defense. Goff in a terrific spot in which should be one of the highest scoring games of the week.
12:28I think it's important to think of the Cardinals defense very similarly to the Miami defense, except that the Miami offense can't score at all.
12:35And the Cardinals offense can score. So teams actually have to try throwing the football against Arizona.
12:40It's even more pressure on them. No doubt. So it's better for the quarterbacks facing Arizona as opposed to the quarterbacks facing Miami, as we have seen.
12:47Like Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, they ended up winning that game perhaps a little closer than we anticipated, but Mahomes didn't
12:53light it up because they barely had to throw the ball compared to where he was against Indianapolis the week prior to that.
13:00Yeah. I want to talk about Brock Purdy, if you guys don't mind, because he's been unbelievable to start this season.
13:06But guess what? This week, he gets the Seattle Seahawks.
13:08They have been really good against quarterbacks so far this year.
13:12Only one quarterback has topped 9.8 fantasy points. Not 19.8.
13:149.8 fantasy points. Wasn't it Jacoby Brissett in week three?
13:17It was, in fact, Marcus Mariota. Oh, I'm sorry.
13:20That's right. He was great. He threw for 186 yards and had three passing touchdowns.
13:24That's why there's not a single quarterback that has even thrown for 190 yards against them so far this year.
13:30They have been unbelievable. They have as many interceptions as a defense as they've allowed touchdowns to be thrown against them.
13:35So it's been touchdowns or busts right now for quarterbacks.
13:38Because luckily, Brock Purdy has thrown multiple touchdowns in every single game so far this season.
13:43He's actually second amongst quarterbacks in total touchdowns. So even though it's a really, really tough matchup, Brock Purdy has been good
13:49enough that I think you can still roll with him here against the Seattle Seahawks.
13:53We're just lowering our expectations rather than having him as like a top five-ish guy.
13:57He's more like quarterback 8 to 10-ish for us here.
14:00A low-end QB1, but still someone you can start against Seattle.
14:03I'll say it scares the heck out of me.
14:06Oh, of course it does. To the point where I don't know that I feel, and I have him as quarterback 11,
14:12I don't know how likely QB11 is for Brock Purdy to finish.
14:15I don't mean specifically quarterback 11. I mean somewhere in that 8 to 12 range.
14:19Do you guys recall Brock Purdy in back-to-back weeks during the fantasy playoffs last year finishing his QB1?
14:24Yes. Massive. Do you recall what happened against the Seattle Seahawks the following week?
14:28Yes. He did a bad job. Absolutely drubbed. Yes.
14:31He did like we call the end time my clay.
14:34Like he was just awful in every way. As opposed to excellence in every way.
14:38I like when I get that line through the four lines.
14:41Yes, there's the five. The five now. It's the five.
14:44Feeling good. So, yes. So, Brock Purdy was not good.
14:47And I know that things change from year to year.
14:49And the Niners have some new pieces. The Seahawks have a few pieces on defense that either are playing bigger roles or are new entirely.
14:56A lot of familiarity between these two sides. Mike McDaniel.
14:59This will be Mike McDonald, excuse me, will be his fifth regular season matchup against Brock Purdy.
15:04And the personnel is a huge part of it.
15:06But Mike McDonald knows how to scheme it up against this San Francisco 49ers offensive approach.
15:11So, I still have him as quarterback 11. Yep.
15:13But he's the, I am scared of what the outlook could be or what the output could be on Sunday.
15:19Yeah. And Purdy's had some good historical games against Seattle.
15:22And that includes 20, 24, 8, 18 plus fantasy points in both.
15:25And then the first meeting last year, he had 16.
15:28But he had two interceptions in that game. So, he got 16 out of him.
15:32I mean, if you started any quarterback against Seattle and got 16, you were probably like, all right, I'll take it.
15:38But not great. And then to your point, two games, including the playoff game, 5.2 points and 5.3 points.
15:43So, it's a tough spot. Very, very high risk this week.
15:47Four games into the season, Brock Purdy is on the incredibly short list of quarterbacks that has actually delivered for you for straight weeks.
15:53So, that's the reason why I have confidence. But I agree with you guys on all of the Seattle concern.
15:59We've said it, though, since week one when we were talking about Drake May and all the other guys with hard matchups.
16:05Like, it's Josh Allen. And he's on his own.
16:08Even if you move him down, it's still to, like, the middle of QB1.
16:12That's as far as he'll go. But everyone else is up for grabs for where you rank him, depending on the matchup.
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17:32Let's dive into some running back rankings here for week 5.
17:351 through 10. Jameer Gibbs. Bajon Robinson. Jonathan Taylor.
17:37Derek Henry. Kyron Williams. Christian McCaffrey. Ashton Gentey. Javante Williams.
17:40Chase Brown and James Cook. That is 1 through 10.
17:4311 through 20. Aaron Jones. Brees Hall. Bucky Irving.
17:45Jeremiah Love at 14. Disappointing he's not higher with how much he has been a part of that offense.
17:51But they've just given too much love to Tyler Algier as well, unfortunately.
17:54Jalen Warren. Quinchan Judkins. DeAndre Swift. Basial Tootin. And Emmanuel Wilson with Cam Skadaboo.
17:58Rounding out the top 20 guys. That list does not feel great.
18:02And in case you didn't love that, you're going to love this one even more.
18:0621 through 30 at running backs. Ramondre Stevenson. Tony Pollard.
18:09David Montgomery. RJ Harvey. Omari and Hampton. Has fallen all the way to RB25 given the now what kind of seems to
18:15be a potential committee approach based on Mike McDaniel in the backfield.
18:18Just does not feel good. And they have Denver.
18:21Yes. And they have Denver. It's just really, really not great.
18:24Who do you guys want to start with? Field, do you want to go with Basial Tootin?
18:29Have you decided who he is? No. And that's kind of why I wanted to bring him up.
18:34I think he might just be the player that I feel the least grip on as far as what he is and
18:40how I should be ranking him in fantasy football.
18:42Yeah. So I've just kind of put him in the middle of the running back.
18:47Yep. So RB17 is the consensus rank. And I'm at RB19.
18:50Um, let's look at some of the indicators. 50.7% of the snaps.
18:53Not ideal. Yeah. Not ideal, right? That's okay. Like that's your, you're not for a lineup lock running back.
18:58No, you're off the field as much as you're on the field.
19:02Basically crazy volume in the passing game. Nope. Negative.
19:04Guaranteed to get goal line opportunities. Nope. Also a negative.
19:07Um, but there are some good things here. There are some things we like, you know, he's run the football effectively this year, especially compared to last year.
19:15His yards per attempt is up nearly a full yard.
19:18It's up from 3.7 to 4.6 so far. That's great.
19:20The season. And you guys probably recall in one of the reasons why Tootin was this trendy, buzzy player leading into the
19:27draft is what he lacked in size. He made up for in speed and explosiveness.
19:31And it's like, this guy is a home run waiting to happen.
19:34Well, last year he had a 10 plus yard run in three out of 17 games played.
19:39So I wouldn't exactly say he was much of a home run hitter for Jacksonville last year.
19:44Sure. Still hasn't ripped off some, you know, 55 yard touchdown run for them this season, but he does have a 10
19:50plus yard run in every game this year. So we're at least trending up, seeing a little bit more of the explosive
19:56runs from Tootin, running better just in general and running back feels disastrously thin this season.
20:01I know we talk about it all the time and I'm probably being a prisoner of the moment, but this one feels, this year feels really gnarly.
20:08I mean, it's like, what point on that list?
20:11And I understand we have no Chuba Hubbard and no Kenneth Walker III.
20:14Yep. But if we had Tootin at 17 and we all are aligned, I'm like, that doesn't feel great.
20:20How far down the list do you have to get before the part where you're like, it doesn't feel great occurs?
20:25I think I texted you guys Monday when I was doing my first run and I was like, RB 10 or 9?
20:32Honestly. Exactly. Like this could be, this next guy could be 11 or 28.
20:36Like it's, it's pretty gross. It's a gigantic tier of a lot of guys that have a lot of problems right now.
20:42Like running back 11 to your point, you said, is Aaron Jones this week?
20:46Like, do you really feel like Aaron Jones is a borderline top 12 running back?
20:50Like this week with the matchup, but like, does he give you, does the name Aaron Jones give you that kind of satisfaction as a fantasy manager?
20:57The name doesn't, but the 25 touches I'll have against a bad Saints defense will.
21:02So that's why he is that high. But yeah, some of the names behind him, you're like, man, I wish we could rank love higher.
21:09I wish we could rank Judkins higher and so forth and so on.
21:12Emmanuel Wilson's in our top 20 this week because of the volume he's getting.
21:16But I do want to make one more point on Tootin, which is this is going to, this is what's going to define his season.
21:23I think so far this season, Jacksonville has trailed on 2% of their offensive snaps.
21:27Yeah. 2%. So he's already been off the field half the time and they, and they don't have to throw the ball very much.
21:34So what happens in more competitive games? Is he going to be out there?
21:38And well, if they have to throw more, maybe he does get an extra target or two.
21:43And he's fine in fantasy on top of what he's doing as a rusher, but that rushing volume will come down in those circumstances.
21:50But if there are more competitive games and they're throwing out LaQuint Allen and Amir Abdul, who by the way, are already playing.
21:56They're using four running backs. It's gonna be a big problem for Tootin's.
22:00He's just going to have too many dud weeks right now.
22:03He's really relying from a bonus, basically, of like three or four carries a game because they're always ahead.
22:08They're just always ahead or tied in games. So that's what's going to kind of determine him.
22:13I agree. For now, he's a back-end RB too.
22:15And that's why he's not a lineup block for me right now.
22:19Most weeks, there's two starting running backs because of buys and then multiple running backs as injuries out this week that obviously boosts them a little bit.
22:26Much like Aaron Jones so far this season. Mike, you've been great on Fantasy.
22:30Do you want to dive into Aaron Jones? Six-nothing.
22:33Terrible. This is getting out of control. Seriously. So one-sided.
22:36So one-sided. My turn? Yes. All right. I'm going to talk about Aaron Jones.
22:39Hey, you just brought him up. Well done. Well, I'm going to give you a point just for seamlessly.
22:45Thank you. Seamlessly getting right to that. I appreciate that.
22:48I got one. Well done. Aaron Jones, last three games.
22:50Here's his touches and his yards. Keep in mind, no Jordan Mason.
22:54Mason. 23 for 105, 22 for 92, 24 for 198 in his most recent game.
22:58Also had a touchdown back in week one. So he's been solid so far.
23:02We sort of saw this coming after week one.
23:04We said, look, Aaron Jones is in his 30s.
23:07He can't do this all season. But the next month while Mason's out, they're probably going to run him out there maybe 80% of the time.
23:14And that's exactly what has happened. He has 37 carries and 14 targets just over the last two weeks.
23:20If that's not enough to get him in the RB1 conversation, he draws the Saints who have allowed the most yards and
23:26touchdowns and fantasy points to running back so far this season.
23:29They've allowed 25 plus to three running backs already.
23:31Both Robinsons last week and then DeAndre Swift earlier this season.
23:34Also gave 17 to RJ or to Derek Henry.
23:37Also gave 21.7 combined to the two Raiders running backs who kind of had, I think, Mike Washington scored that week.
23:43So they were kind of even. But great matchup.
23:45Great volume. How do you not chase this this week?
23:48So my. Good try. Good try, bud. Good try.
23:51Good try. Thank you. Yes. Woo! Aaron Jones. Thank you.
23:53Thank you. It's an honor. I'm almost verklempt at how good that was.
23:57That was a lot. I'm giving you two points for that.
24:00That's a two point for verklempt. That's a two pointer.
24:03Yeah. Six to three. We've got a battle. Yeah.
24:06When you do the slow clap into the verklempt, it's always worth two points.
24:09Yeah, yeah. Question for you guys. And I don't think you can pull this off because we just talked about how gnarly running back is.
24:16But I think Jordan Mason's back in the next week or two.
24:20Yeah. And that'll change things. Change it enough. Do you take your opportunity to sell high on Aaron Jones?
24:25Absolutely. If you have the ability, if someone needs him, if someone without Ken Walker is looking for a running back this
24:31week and you think maybe you could just, you know.
24:34Really interesting. I would value him as like a fringe RB2, maybe a flex, I would say something along those lines.
24:40That's what I would view him as. So yeah, if he can get more than that, especially if someone's really desperate at running back.
24:47I mean, look, it's a weekly game. You want to use them this week, but I mean, the wheels could fall off at any time.
24:54And once Mason's back, his value is going to take a big hit.
24:57Quick question. Have the wheels fallen off DeAndre Swift?
25:00I don't think so. Okay. Because when you look at his box score, and if you're just a box score looker, it doesn't feel great.
25:07Tell us more. RB5, week one. RB16, week two.
25:09RB22, week three. RB37, week four. Only one game over 12.9 fantasy points this year.
25:14It's not great. That was that week one 59-point barrage.
25:16But here's the thing that you love. He's still eighth in touches.
25:20He's still 10th in scrimmage yards. He's fourth amongst running backs with eight carries inside the five-yard line.
25:25He's getting goal line touches. I understand that this is one of those situations where like last week he fumbled the ball.
25:31They went with the hot hand. I think this is part of the things.
25:35It hasn't worked out quite the same way that Ben Johnson did it in Detroit.
25:39But I do think that there will be weeks where if Kyle Menunga is cooking the same way that David Montgomery was
25:45some weeks, they're just going to let him roll until there's a reason not to.
25:49So you may be kind of picking and choosing.
25:52DeAndre Swift is still the RB1 in this backfield.
25:55They utilize him that way. They think about him that way.
25:58Regardless of what you see in the box score, I still think he's the RB1.
26:02And by the way, even though one running back has topped 15 fantasy points against the Packers, it was Bijan with 35.3.
26:08They've still allowed, even though one running back has topped 15, they've allowed eight total touchdowns to running backs so far, second
26:14most in the NFL, and the third most rushing yards to running backs.
26:18So this is a really nice potential bounce back opportunity for DeAndre Swift.
26:21Yeah, I think the only risk with Swift is if they decide, look, Kyle Menunga is the hot hand for real now,
26:28and he's going to just take control of this backfield as a rusher.
26:31Swift isn't going anywhere, though. He's going to have a role, and he'll be involved certainly in passing situations.
26:37But, you know, there's a chance that they're like to even it out a little bit more.
26:41Kind of what everyone wants to happen with the Rams.
26:44Right. Like we want more. Everyone wants more Blake Horum.
26:47I don't think that's correct, but I mean, that's what everyone's kind of been fishing for.
26:51But we did see in Carolina last year. Granted, Hubbard was a little beat up, but that's Rico Dowdle was the hot
26:58hand, and they just rode him a little bit more.
27:00That's the only risk, I think, with Swift, but he's not going, he's not going to disappear.
27:05He's going to remain at least 50-50, I think.
27:08Agreed. I'm wondering if like a good, I think Butter would be a good new nickname for you.
27:13You say things, it's just so smooth. So smooth.
27:15It's both, it's articulate, it's smooth. Before we move on.
27:18Now he's going too far. I might have to take a point away.
27:22Before we move on to wide receivers, let's do a quick check-in in the control room very fast because we got something going on in there really quickly.
27:30We're up to seven. Wow. Oh, wow. Overly gratuitous compliments.
27:32We're at seven right now for field. Okay. Okay.
27:35All right. Only two for Daniel. Only two. I don't know.
27:38I'd give him three because, uh... Well, one of them was a...
27:41One was a two-parter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Appropriately a good two-adjust.
27:44All right. I would kind of rank it myself.
27:47Well, you have time, Daniel. It's 1026. Yeah. That's great.
27:50You have about 10 more minutes, I would say.
27:52New clone, by the way? Let's dive into wide receivers.
27:55Nope. Wide receivers 1 through 10 here in week 5.
27:58Puka Nakua, wide receiver number 1. He came back last week, guys.
28:01Looked pretty good at football. I thought, but other than Mike, I thought it was the best performance of the weekend.
28:07Dang it! I can't set you up like this.
28:10Jackson Smith and Jigba, Jamar Chase, Amon Ross St.
28:12Brown, CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, Chris Olave, Drake London, and Nico Collins with Michael Wilson.
28:16That rounds out your top 10. An unbelievable list of studs.
28:1911 through 20. Zay Flowers, Devontae Adams, Garrett Wilson, T.
28:22Higgins dealing with that adductor injury. Still day-to-day. Feeling good about it, though.
28:26Malik Neighbors. Parker Washington, Christian Watson, George Pickens, Carnell Tate, and Matthew Golden.
28:30That rounds out your top 20. 21 through 30.
28:32Terry McLaurin, Mike Evans, DJ Moore. Still awaiting word on what he's going to be for this week.
28:37Obviously dealing with that shoulder injury that has been aggravated this last week.
28:41Luther Burden at 24. DK Metcalf, Jalen Waddell, Josh Downs, Denzel Boston, J-Mo, and Debo Samuel.
28:45Rounding out the top 30. There you go. Debo Samuel has 15 or more fantasy points in three of his four games this year.
28:52Doesn't really feel sustainable, but he's looked really good.
28:54So he's in that flex radar this week. One of those games, he had zero targets for eight yards.
29:00Exactly. He's had some weird things. Such a great point.
29:03I couldn't quite remember what the stat was, but Mike, as always, Johnny Hunt.
29:07Talk about George Pickens. This is my favorite show the whole season.
29:10We'll discuss this game in more days tomorrow. I'm going to be the judge every week from now on.
29:15Yes, I'll bet you are. I'll bet. George Pickens game's coming tomorrow night.
29:19You think so? I think so. That's the unlock?
29:21I am. That's the what? Unlock? Unlock. Unlock. I'm okay.
29:24I didn't know if that was like a betting lock.
29:27No, no, no, no. Is that like a thing kids say or something?
29:31No. We're just finally unlocking George Pickens in 2026 for fantasy football.
29:34That sounds like something they would say, though. We're doing it.
29:37I'm pretty cool. You're the unlock. What is that?
29:40I don't know what that means. Did I just?
29:42If you say it, I know it's cool. Did I just start a trend?
29:46No. Dang it. Did Mike start it? I think you did.
29:49Go ahead. You said it. George Pickens game's coming tomorrow night.
29:52Some of the just like, just the straight, just the brass tacks of it all is solid.
29:57Ninth in routes run, 24th in targets, 22nd in receptions, 28th in receiving yards.
30:01I feel like George Pickens has had a bottom five percentile outcome of what his season could be through four games.
30:07I agree. So far this year. I think this is a balance of CeeDee Lamb is amazing and also George Pickens just getting weirdly unlucky.
30:14He has only one end zone target and that's got to change.
30:17He's George Pickens. He's gigantic. He is massive and deserves more opportunities near the end zone.
30:22They play the Buccaneers tomorrow night. Is anybody scared of this Buccaneers team at all?
30:26No. Not at all. The Buccaneers have allowed a wide receiver to reach 20 plus fantasy points in two separate games this year.
30:32And it's not like they played a bunch of like juggernaut offense.
30:36Over the last weeks, they faced Cleveland, Minnesota and Green Bay.
30:39And they have allowed a wide receiver to get the 20 plus fantasy points in two of those three games.
30:44So I ain't worried about the Buccaneers. George Pickens making his mark tomorrow night.
30:48I think the Pickens revenge tour begins on Thursday.
30:51Is it the last two weeks that we had?
30:53So last week, obviously, CeeDee Lamb had 21 targets.
30:56Basically, it was the entire offense. Was it the week before that that Javante had three touchdowns?
31:01He had three touchdowns this past game. This past game.
31:03Okay. Oh, oh. It was both of them together?
31:06Yeah, they both went on. I did not realize.
31:08Honestly, like between, if you take the aggregate dominance from Javante Williams and CeeDee Lamb, it just reminds you of like a daily output from my class.
31:16Wow, we're up to 10. Ding, ding, ding. Ding, ding, ding, ding.
31:19Yeah. You're not going to come back on that.
31:22I don't think so. I don't think so. You're playing at a distance.
31:26I can be bought. So this is a problem.
31:28I can be bought. I love that. This is a problem for you.
31:32Did you get my gift card, by the way, before the show?
31:35I didn't get that yet. Oh, no. You can just give me stuff out of your wallet.
31:40Why don't you go? Why don't you talk about Carnel Tate?
31:43Yeah, Carnel Tate, a very quiet, concerning start to this season.
31:46Not his fault, necessarily, but very quiet start. But trending.
31:49Hold on. Why do you carry so much cash in your pocket, Daniel?
31:52Dude. This is great. You're getting lots of points for these.
31:56Why do you have so much cash? $60. How many points is $60 worth?
31:59One of us is a baller, that's why. This is what he walks away.
32:03How many points is this worth? We've got to figure this out.
32:0712. Someone run the numbers. I think 12. One more than however many I have.
32:11Yeah, whatever it is. Anyway, Carnel Tate, fellas. Was 6 for 58 on 9 targets against the Giants two weeks ago, and
32:17then comes out big time against the Ravens. 9 for 145 on 12 targets.
32:21That's what we want to see out of a top 5 draft pick in the NFL draft.
32:26His target share now is just a hair under 30%.
32:29It's 9th in the entire NFL. It was 43% in Week 4.
32:32The main concern with him going forward is, will he find the end zone?
32:36Is this a guy that's going to have two touchdowns by season's end?
32:40Because the offense isn't very good. He has zero touchdowns so far.
32:43He is one end zone target and his expected touchdown total, even with all that volume, is 0.8.
32:48We need more work near the goal line if he's going to get his game to the next level.
32:53I do have the Titans receivers with the easiest remaining schedule.
32:56This is based on the first month of the season.
32:59Love that. So more on that, I think, tomorrow.
33:02But that's appealing for Tate. And they're playing Houston this week, who generally or usually we would think this would be a brutal matchup.
33:08It has not been so far. What are those fantasy points with wide receivers?
33:12The most 44.6 per game. They've allowed at least 18 fantasy points to a receiver in every game so far this season.
33:19So, Carnell Tate, you just have to look at the facts four weeks in.
33:22That was great. This is a matchup that can be had.
33:26The Texans are struggling. Tate should be locked in.
33:28Last night, you actually sent an email with your strength of schedule.
33:31I drew a real nice bubble bath and had a nice glass of Savvy B.
33:36And I actually just read through the PDF. And it was...
33:39Isn't that PDF cool, though? Intoxicating. Yeah. Yeah. It really is.
33:42It was really dope. Check it out. I posted it on Twitter yesterday.
33:45It's on the website, ESPN.com. It has just like the main charts.
33:49All six positions. Yeah. It's their strength of schedule so far through four games and then the rest of the season.
33:55But if you click the PDF, it expands to every week.
33:58So, you can look at each week of the season and what it looks like.
34:02So, I think it's pretty cool. I agree. And we'll talk about it more later this time.
34:07Mike Clay NFL is the handle. And if we get Mike to 5 million followers on Twitter, I'll pay off his mortgage.
34:13Yes! 5 million! How long do I have to do that?
34:16By the end of today. Come on. Give me followers.
34:19Come on. You still want one mortgage? No. Different conversation.
34:22Not out of preference. Okay. Let's dive in. Not out of preference.
34:25Matthew Golden, guys. I'm going to talk about him.
34:27Matthew Golden has been great so far this year.
34:30Ninth in targets. Like, ninth in targets. 12-6-12-7. Little bit of a yo-yo situation there.
34:34But four straight games with six plus targets. We will take that every single week.
34:38Two weeks as a top 20 wide receiver. Both of those weeks had over 15 and a half fantasy points.
34:44We kind of talked about it was more narrative.
34:47But when we came into the season with all the stuff that was happening with the running backs, it's like, are the
34:53running backs bad enough that Jordan Love does eventually just have to throw a bunch?
34:57Which turns out that's sort of what's happening. Nailed it.
35:00Running backs are like a big old plate of dirt.
35:03Big old pile of mushrooms. I've never met a mushroom I could like.
35:06I've never met a Packers running back I can like.
35:09Wow. But I am in. I'm on green back.
35:11On bath. That's fair. You didn't grow up a Lions fan.
35:15I am still in on Matthew Golden and Christian Watson with the target share.
35:19And with the way that that offensive line is playing, which is not great, by the way.
35:23I think part of why I like Matthew Golden a little bit more than Christian Watson is because he's just peppered, maybe
35:29potentially closer to the line of scrimmage with some easy stuff that he can use with his, do some yak stuff with.
35:36So I like Matthew Golden this week. I think he's an option for us here as a flex consideration.
35:41Yeah, Packers third heaviest offense so far. To your point.
35:44Pass heaviest? What did I say? Third heaviest. They have some big offenses.
35:47Yes. Big guys. Well, Christian Watson's a big guy.
35:50Yeah, third, sorry. Third pass heaviest offense so far.
35:52Yeah. Don't worry. It's very rare for you. Yes.
35:55Yeah, fair. Thank you. Matthew Golden, also my four-year-old's favorite NFL player.
35:58Seriously? Are you guys familiar with K-pop Demon Hunters?
36:01Yes. A little bit, yeah. Yeah. They have the big hit, Golden is the song.
36:05Plays pretty much every car ride. I asked her what her favorite color was when we were trying to decide.
36:11Did she say golden? She said golden pink. Oh, okay.
36:13Golden pink. Naturally. Golden pink is a color. Is it?
36:16I think that counts. Well, if she had just said golden, that would have been not right.
36:21Yeah, but golden pink. Golden pink counts. Okay. Or gold and pink.
36:24That's good also. That's two colors. Yeah, that's good.
36:27That's okay. Have you never met a child? Very few are just like.
36:31You work with them every day. Very few are just like green.
36:34It's like, well, blue and pink. And, you know, it's usually multiple, which is fine.
36:38Rainbow. My daughter's just rainbow, which is all the colors.
36:41That's fair. Yeah. I met my son when he was 15.
36:44He doesn't talk to me about his favorite colors.
36:47It's a more sophisticated conversation. It's something different than we talk about.
36:50Let's dive into some tight ends. Oh, no. Actually, we're going to do the mailbag first, guys.
36:55Before we do that, shout out to our buddy, Eric Moody.
36:58Follow him on social media at Eric and Moody.
37:00First question comes from Fire Stick. Wants to know, start two.
37:03PPR League. Quinchan Judkins. Jeremiah Love. Or Emmanuel Wilson this week, guys.
37:07This one's pretty straightforward. Yeah, I agree. Quinchan Judkins.
37:09Judkins and Love. Jeremiah Love. I agree. And I'm a Wilson apologist just because of the situation, but I would still lean toward the other two guys.
37:17I would, too. I would, too. Good answers, Mike.
37:19Thank you. All right. Next one here from our chat.
37:22Regal. Regal Desert Eagle. There you go. Thank you, Field.
37:25No problem. Mike. Mike. Told me what to say.
37:27Yes. Colson Loveland. I gotcha. Joke Farterson this week, guys.
37:30Not Joke Farterson. Not enough targets at all. We're going Colson Loveland.
37:34Yeah, I would go with Colson Loveland, too. Well, like, at this point with Loveland, we're like, that's a passable day.
37:39We'll take that. Yes. At least still Caleb gets back.
37:42Then we need some big games. But for now, we'll take passable.
37:46And we got that last week. Give me what we got last week.
37:49Yep. Agreed. That's it. All right. One more. We got another one.
37:53This one comes from Burt Macklin, FBI. Should I be worried about Cam Scadabo usage?
37:57Well, Field? I just made a trade for Cam Scadabo in the 16-team war room league.
38:01Oh, yeah? What'd you do? Parker Washington for Scadabo.
38:04Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Which I'm not trying to justify the trade.
38:08I just want to give the context. Absolutely. My team has Travis Achan as our RB2, which he wasn't good, but at least he was a warm body.
38:15You need a running back. You need a running back badly.
38:18So, we are able to stem the tide at wide receiver a bit with Devon Vele as our fourth wide out or our flex.
38:25He steps into that role. Scadabo replaces the husk of Kendra Miller.
38:29Scadabo is – I mean, obviously, I fought long and hard about this because I had the deal this morning.
38:34He went 10 catchers through four games. That's a totally passable number, but it's two games with four targets and two games with one target.
38:41Schedule next week is great. They get the Saints.
38:44Mike just mentioned how bad of a matchup. Yep, next week.
38:47Next week, yeah. Yep, this week, Washington. I think I'm fine with Scadabo.
38:50I think he's fine. Like, certainly not the player that he was last year.
38:54I don't think the use is just concerning, though.
38:57Like, he's still getting, what, 15 carries a game.
38:59Yeah, a lot of opportunities. It's kind of like Tootin, but in a worse offense so far because he's not getting goal line work.
39:06The efficiency hasn't been there, three and a half yards per carry.
39:09But a lot of that is they're just grinding him between the tackles.
39:13Like, they have to – we need more bigger plays.
39:16But just two carries inside the five. That's why he only has one touchdown.
39:20If he starts getting touchdowns, and I'd like to see the passing game usage be a little more consistent.
39:25It's not – it's been kind of all over the map.
39:28One 4-4. That would help. But they do draw Washington.
39:31They've been kind of quietly good against running backs.
39:34Jonathan Taylor is the only one to get to 11 against them.
39:37So that's for this week. But, yeah, I guess to answer the specific question, not super worried, but he's fine.
39:43Looks more like a mid-range RB2 at best at the moment.
39:46Maybe we can get more out of him, though.
39:48It's weird because, like, in Jacksonville, I sort of understand the Chris Rodriguez getting goal line touches because he's a big, powerful man.
39:55Yeah. In New York, it's like, man, we don't really like seeding goal line carries to Najee Harris, right?
40:00Like, whatever's left of Najee Harris. I was just going to say – you used the term, like, what is the husk of Najee Harris.
40:07Part of that is the fact that Scadaboo is 10th in the NFL in carries.
40:11Like, they are just giving it to him as much as they possibly can between the 20s, I guess.
40:16So it's a tricky one. Let's talk about some tight ends.
40:20Let's do it. We'll start with Mike Clay. Mike Clay.
40:22Why? We were talking about some tight ends. I know, but why me first?
40:26He was trying to compliment. Oh, man. There we go.
40:29There we go. That's $100. I bet you had $105.
40:32So the $20 bills count for – You've been working out, though.
40:35Yeah, I can tell. $106. Okay. A lot of squats.
40:38All right. I've been slacking. Yeah, TJ Hawkinson. Wait.
40:41No, I'm going to give the rankings first. Sorry.
40:43You said for me to go first. I know it was because I made you uncomfortable by complimenting your body.
40:49We're going to start with tight ends 1 through 10.
40:51Trey McBride, Brock Bowers, George Kittle, Sam Laporta, Isaiah Likely, Tyler Warren, Harold Fannin, Tucker Craft, Juwan Johnson, and Colston Loveland.
40:57Colston Loveland does make it as a top 10 tight end this week.
41:01TJ Hawkinson coming off of last week's big game at 11.
41:04Mark Andrews, Dalton Kincaid, Brenton Strange, Kenyon Sadiq, Pat Friermuth, Michael Mayer, Kay Dotten, AJ Barner, Hunter Henry, and Lord help you
41:10if you need to start any of the names on the second half of this list.
41:15Why are you looking at him? I know. Sorry, Field.
41:18It's just a tough one. A tight end does not feel great once you get past tight ends 2.
41:23But, you know, let's talk about a few of these guys.
41:26You have like Laporta. Yeah, no, there's a few of them that have been in there.
41:30And there's been a few that have kind of come on this season.
41:34We have a few guys that stepped up that maybe we didn't plan on.
41:38One of them being Juwan Johnson for the Saints.
41:41He's been awesome. Fun player to watch too now.
41:43And this is Juwan. As we know, throws the ball a ton.
41:46Tyler Shuck has 18 more passing attempts than any quarterback in the league.
41:50Mike mentioned the run defense issues. I'm not sure they're much better defending the pass either.
41:55So this Saints defense is as bad as Mike is great.
41:58Good opportunity for them to continue to throw the football lot on offense.
42:01And Juwan Johnson, amongst tight ends, is 5th in routes run, 5th in targets, 3rd in end zone targets.
42:07He does get those looks when they are near the goal line.
42:10Noah Fant, who does not totally impact the value of Juwan Johnson.
42:13But if he's available, it's potentially slightly, you know, like a target less per game for Juwan Johnson.
42:18He was a scratch this past Monday night against Atlanta.
42:21We'll see his status for this upcoming weekend. It's a bad matchup against Minnesota.
42:25I think, without spoiling it, the Saints win that game, though.
42:28Ooh, interesting. I think I just spoiled it, though.
42:31Yeah, a little bit. That's okay, though. We'll come back to it.
42:34Mike, who do you want to go with? I'm going to talk about TJ Hawkinson, your old buddy.
42:39Oh, yeah. Right now in Minnesota. Ever since that injury a couple years ago, he hasn't been that same sort of, I
42:45wouldn't go as far to say elite fantasy tight end, but certainly, like, in the top five conversation most weeks, hasn't been there.
42:52But maybe Kyler Murray can re-unlock that. Last week, he did 13 targets, 13 catches, 119 yards against the Dolphins.
42:57He had a 39% target share. Guys, he's up to 26% target share this season.
43:02That ranks 18th in the entire NFL and fourth at tight end.
43:05So he's getting a ton of volume. There could be, this could be something with Kyler.
43:09Trey McBride had a 27% target share with Kyler during weeks one through five last season when he was healthy.
43:15It was 30% the year before the full season with Kyler.
43:18Remember, before Trey McBride broke out, it was Zach Ertz who was super productive with Kyler Murray.
43:23So there could be something here in terms of added volume.
43:26And they play the Saints, who to your point, have struggled.
43:29They've struggled against this position. 28 points to Brock Bowers.
43:32Michael Mayer also scored in that game. And Mark Andrews and Sam LaPorter both had fine days there.
43:37Both had at least nine and a half points.
43:39So I think Hawkinson is a very high floor play here in week five.
43:43And if he finds the end zone, we could be pushing 20 points here.
43:47Love that. Who do you think wins that one?
43:50Who did I pick? I think I'll probably pick Minnesota.
43:53But they have to be able to score points.
43:55That's a really good pick, Mike. That's a really smart.
43:58That's smart, Mike. I like that. Yeah. I want to cut up on this episode, by the way.
44:03I need it. ESPN talent office. Yes. And just forward it right along.
44:07That's right. Colson Loveland. Guys, I'm rolling with them here as a top 10 tight end.
44:11At this point, what we saw last week needs to be the standard.
44:15The expectation of what we get out of Colson Loveland.
44:18First three weeks of the season. Two targets. Three targets.
44:20Four targets. Last week, nine targets. That's what it needs to be.
44:24I'd love to know what's happening right now. Six for 57.
44:27He started much slower than what we wanted. But a lot of this, to be honest, is just anecdotal.
44:32Colson Loveland is an unbelievably talented and athletic freak to play a position in which we have very few athletically talented freaks
44:38that are at the top of their game. Even though he has struggled and started slow, I am still going to trust
44:44the talent and hope that they get him involved like we saw last week.
44:48So I'm rolling with him again as a low end tight end one.
44:52Colson Loveland, athletic freak. Brock Bowers, athletic freak. We're talking just tight ends here.
44:56Trey McBride, George Kittle. I would say at the top is Mike Clay.
45:00Mike Clay probably had number one. Yes, for sure.
45:02For sure. You both agreed there. That's a washout.
45:05But I appreciate it. A couple of quick streaming defenses for you guys, just so that you know.
45:10Dallas Cowboys. They were the most added defense this week.
45:12You want to know why? They are taking on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
45:16George Pick is going to have three touchdowns. The Cowboys might have eight sacks.
45:20Yep. So that's going to be a very big one.
45:23You can look at all those guys there. Last week against the Packers.
45:26Packers had two sacks. Two interceptions. Three sacks. Only allowed 14 points.
45:30Love that as a potential streaming defense. Mike, what about you?
45:33Yeah, looking at the Bengals here. Third in the NFL in sacks.
45:36And they draw Miami. They've been the third most generous to opposing defenses this season.
45:40A 10 fantasy points per game. So Bengals, good streamer this week.
45:44Field? Field? I got the Jaguars who have the Eagles coming up.
45:47This game is over in London. This Jacksonville defense has been really solid so far this year.
45:52And the Eagles, of course, are now without Lane Johnson.
45:55Yeah. They're doing significant injuries along the offensive line.
45:57Devontae Smith could be out. Dallas Goddard could be out.
46:00Saquon Barkley could be out. But so it's Jalen Hurts throwing to Darius Cooper and Zach Ertz and Devontaevian Wicks.
46:06So a tough sledding for Philadelphia on Sunday. I actually think they keep that game at least very close, if not win.
46:12I think there's a grittiness and a toughness about this Eagles team.
46:15And it's not just me trying to compliment Mike.
46:18For real. I think they will find a way to stay in this game.
46:22I hope so. I don't know if they're going to win or not, but I do think this Philadelphia team is going
46:28to prove to us they dig deep when people expect them to be out.
46:32I don't really know what to expect either. Maybe they do hang in there like they did with the Rams.
46:37That's a game everyone thought the Rams would handle.
46:40This feels like a game that could be 33 to 3, but I hope that's not the case.
46:45All three of those defenses are available in more than 50% of leagues.
46:49They were the three most added defenses through waivers, but still available in a number of leagues for you to be able to go and grab them.
46:56I have a legitimate question for you. One of the highest projected defenses this week is the Jets against the Browns.
47:02Yep. The Browns seem like they're playing better offense.
47:05Is that? There's still some Deshaun Watson turning it over in his projection.
47:08That's a big part of that. And also the Browns are not exactly lighting it up offensively in terms of scoring big points.
47:15So I think there's a little bit of a cap on that.
47:18So that's generally where it comes from. So not getting too worried about that.
47:22The projection for basically how it works in terms of the metrics for a quarterback is it evolves as the season goes on.
47:28So obviously to open the season, it's based on historical numbers and year-to-year progression, kind of regression to mean in some categories.
47:35But every week as they 40 more dropbacks, it'll just start to use more of what we've seen this season.
47:40So Watson's numbers, his efficiency projections are getting better, but we're not totally forgetting about it.
47:45It's a small sample with him. He still has turned it over this season a few times as well, made some mistakes.
47:51So still a guy that could be a liability in that area.
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48:17Call 1-800-GRANGER. Click granger.com or just stop by. Let's do a little fantasy face-off.
48:21Me versus Field. Mike gets to be the judge.
48:24Whoa, we didn't change the animation. Mike should be in the middle there.
48:27Sorry about that, Michael. I apologize. I'll talk with our team about it and just know that I'll handle it.
48:33We could pay homage to one of the great sitcoms of our childhood.
48:37Malcolm in the Middle. Yes. Oh, that's true. Yeah.
48:39That's right. Frankie Munez was... Of course, a big racer now.
48:42Yes, he drives in the Arca Series. Yeah. Or did he go to trucks?
48:46I think he went to the Truck Series. But either way...
48:49I think he's fallen on some tough times of late.
48:52Yeah, he has. But yeah, it was cool to see him make that change.
48:56He's like our age too. And then he's living the dream, right?
48:59Really good? Like as a racer? Or is it more like...
49:02I don't want to disrespect his game, but work in progress.
49:05But you know, it's hard when you... He's an actor, right?
49:08For... So he's done that his whole life. And then he decided, hey, I have money.
49:13I'm going to invest in a team and race because it's something I want to do.
49:17Why not? And he's a development. He's a development.
49:20He's a developing driver. That's what Mike Clay is hoping to be someday, is a development driver.
49:25He just wants to be... Wouldn't that be great?
49:27Wouldn't you... Awesome. Would you do it? Yeah. Would you drive around?
49:31I raced go-karts and my dad was a champion racer on dirt in Pennsylvania.
49:35Won two track championships in the late 80s. So he was...
49:38How fast did your cars go? Mine? Oh, mine weren't...
49:40I mean, this was when I was a kid.
49:43So not super fast, but I don't know what the miles per hour was.
49:47But enough to be competitive. All right. It was fun.
49:50Let's dive into a couple of guys that we're going to bring to the table.
49:54Sorry. Do it. Fantasy face-off. Field and I are both going to bring a player to the table that we would rather start over the other person's player.
50:02We're going to start at the quarterback position. Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first?
50:08You know, let's go with beauty before age. All right.
50:11So I will go first. Wait a second. I'm older than you.
50:14I'm almost a man. Yeah. I can't wait to turn 40 so I can say I'm a man.
50:19I mean, I actually don't want to turn 40.
50:22When I turned 40, I used that gif like once and then I said it like once or twice and then it was like, okay.
50:29All right. On to the next. Now I'm over.
50:31We're on to Cincinnati. See if we can do better.
50:34See if we can do better and utilize it more.
50:37Bo Nix. I got Bonix bringing to the table.
50:39Bonix. Okay. All right. Last couple of weeks. Here's the deal.
50:42He was really good two weeks ago against the Rams.
50:45By really good, I mean his fantasy points were really good.
50:4824.14. He's actually really struggled so far this year.
50:515.4, 14.1, 13.5. But you look at the defenses they've played.
50:54Kansas City, Jacksonville, the Rams, and San Francisco. Oh, fair.
50:57So it has been a very difficult road. Chargers, who they're playing this week, have allowed three quarterbacks to top 16.5 fantasy points against them.
51:04That's a much nicer floor than it is the difficult matchups he's had in recent memory.
51:08By the way, on the other side, Fields guy is going to play the 49ers.
51:12They've only allowed one quarterback to top 13.6 fantasy points.
51:15So they've done really good so far this year.
51:18So I just think this is a defense that can be taken advantage of.
51:22You know, last week it was a situation in which it did not feel like we needed to utilize Bonix quite as much.
51:28It was a much more difficult of a matchup.
51:31He threw the ball 42 times though still. So I'm going with Bonix as a high-end QB2 over one Sam Darnold this week.
51:37Yeah, interesting. That's an interesting call because Bonix has been so bad this year.
51:41He has been. Up and down. I don't like playing players that, you know, you get the Jekyll and Hyde nature to them.
51:47I prefer guys that are Super Bowl champions that have a pedigree that bring it to the table when it matters the most.
51:54Like Sam Darnold too. I grant you has only played in two full games this year, but two weeks ago against Washington, he absolutely lit it up.
52:01Nearly 28 fantasy points, which is more points in any game, more points than Bo Nix has scored in any game so far this season.
52:08Yeah, yeah. You're right that San Francisco has largely held quarterbacks.
52:12Except for Jacoby Brissett. Except for 26 fantasy points against the Niners.
52:15The Rams forgot it was the regular season when they went to Australia 10 minutes before kickoff.
52:20I'm throwing that Matthew Stafford game away. And then they played Bo Nix, who we just talked about.
52:25Who, Bo, you don't know what you're going to get.
52:27Sam Darnold and the Seahawks team locks in. They knock out the San Francisco 49ers for their first loss of the season.
52:34Sam Darnold to JSN two times. You heard it here first.
52:37Sam Darnold, a better play than Bo Nix. Hey, by the way, they did that last week, right?
52:42Oh, wait, no. He had 13.3 fantasy points against the Chargers.
52:45Sam Darnold. The Chargers are trash. But Mike, did you get a haircut?
52:49I don't know why your hair looks so good.
52:51I'm getting a haircut today at 1230. Okay. Thank you for not noticing.
52:55All right. I have to decide on this one.
52:57Bo Nix. Good call. Two good cases. Sam Darnold.
53:00Field. Get back in line. Daniel, you win this one.
53:03Yes! You know where you got me? Where? You got me with the tough schedule so far.
53:07That's what it is. The first four games are tough, and I still believe in Bo Nix's talent.
53:12I think that's a fair point. I think he gets it going the right direction.
53:17All right. I believe Seth Walder, who does analytics for us here at ESPN, very, very, very smart.
53:22Has a lot of cool insights. He had a post last night on Twitter that the Broncos, I think, have played four
53:28of the top five teams in ESPN's Football Power Index.
53:31Really? So they've faced as difficult of a schedule, basically.
53:33It's funny you say that. I noticed the strength to schedule chart shows the easiest schedule remaining for the defense special teams is the Broncos going forward.
53:41So you wonder why that's supposed to be an elite defense.
53:44Why have they struggled? Well, the schedule's been brutal.
53:47Going forward, it's very light, although Pat Sertan injured.
53:49Yeah, we'll keep an eye on that. All right.
53:52All right. I'll let you go first here for the second one, Phil, just so you can kind of get your feet underneath you a little bit.
53:59All right. So I think it's pretty obvious who's going to start at running back for the Eagles this weekend, right?
54:05Yes, they literally only have one guy. It might be me.
54:08Right? And so the thing about Will Shipley is that he's going to get a ton of volume this weekend.
54:14Sure. On top of that, Will Shipley is a very gifted pass catcher.
54:17The Eagles have talked about how they're going to play more under center now with Jalen Hurts.
54:22Kind of meet Jalen back in the middle. This Eagles offense is going to get back on track a little bit.
54:28Now, what you may not know is that Will Shipley has English roots.
54:32Okay. All right. Will has three uncles who still live in London, and they are amongst the biggest and most popular on the internet arm wrestling scene.
54:39I want this to be true. In the entire world.
54:42Those guys are all going to be there, and they're going to be intimidating the Jaguars before the game on Sunday morning.
54:48Is this real? Do you want to bet against Will Shipley and his three uncles who live in London?
54:54This is real? Right? Like, this is... You sold it really well.
54:57Yeah. If it's not real. It's not real. But Will Shipley is going to get more opportunities than I believe Kyle Monungay will get.
55:04He is not necessarily going to be as efficient, Monungay, behind that awesome, awesome offensive line in Chicago.
55:09But volume, good pass catching, and I think he's going to find his way into the end zone.
55:14Give me Will Shipley. I hear you, Field. I'm going to go over the top on this one, though.
55:19That's an arm wrestling reference that neither one of you get, but a bunch of people in our chat understand.
55:25That's right. Kyle Monungay. Bears have played how many games this year?
55:28Four games, right? Yes. That would be correct. Okay.
55:31In those four games, a Bears running back has topped 20 fantasy points three times so far.
55:35Impressive. Two of them are him, right? Yes. Including last week where he had 146 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns.
55:41He has done it twice. In four games this year, the best an Eagles running back has done is 11.9 fantasy points.
55:47That was Tank Bigsby, by the way. Not even Saquon Barkley.
55:50Saquon had two nine-point games in his two healthy games.
55:53I just have much more faith in the Bears running backs this season.
55:57I have much more faith in the Bears offense this season.
56:00I recognize Will Shipley will play probably more than Kyle Monungay.
56:03I'm just going to default to what I think is going to be a better offense and the ability that if it
56:09runs through Kyle Monungay like it did last week, you have a higher chance at an upside.
56:14You know I'm a practical numbers guy and you just made up facts to make your case.
56:19I can't support that. Thank you! Point to Daniel.
56:21Also, he gave me $60. No, whoa! Dang it, I did.
56:24I have to go Monungay here. That was a bit.
56:27Yeah. Sorry, guys. I expect better field. Gotta do better.
56:30Will Shipley's going to touch the ball a ton.
56:32He absolutely will. He is. I think he will have more touches than Kyle Monungay.
56:37I really don't know what they're going to do.
56:39I wouldn't be surprised if it's 45% of the snaps or 60%.
56:43I don't know. Like 70%. I just don't. Who do you have right now?
56:46Damian Pierce as the two. Is there anyone that you want to start?
56:50Jaden Blue. I don't want to start any Eagles running backs.
56:53Especially in a game where I think they're going to have a hard time.
56:57You don't want to start a single Eagle right now.
57:00No, no. They're going to have a hard time.
57:02I really believe that. All right. Cool. Sorry about this field.
57:06It's okay. You tried so hard to make Mike be your friend earlier too.
57:09I did. I think I'm going to crush you in this last one.
57:13Yeah, but one of the compliments was I'm just a practical guy.
57:16I got to listen to the info and make the right choice there.
57:20It's very important. Ready for a clean sweep? No, I'm not.
57:23This is serious business. All right. Who is it?
57:26We need time for a random rank. We got to be quick.
57:29Lions have given up six games of at least 19.9 fantasy points to a tight end or wide receiver so far this year.
57:36Michael Wilson takes them on this week. We obviously think that Trey McBride is going to be an every week starter.
57:41Michael Wilson fits the bill. Did you know that he has 30 targets over the last two weeks?
57:46Most in the NFL. Fourth in the NFL in targets.
57:49Everything that you have seen from the Lions secondary, I don't need to harp on and I don't want to.
57:55Michael Wilson is an easy top 10 play this week.
57:58Zay Flowers is a better play than Michael Wilson.
58:00Even with Lamar Jackson, unlikely to be available because who's a way better player?
58:04Zay Flowers or Michael Wilson? It's Zay Flowers. To me, it's pretty apparent.
58:08Zay Flowers is seventh in the NFL and run after catch per reception.
58:11You put the football in Zay Flowers' hands, good things are going to happen.
58:15You have your backup quarterback. You're facing all of a sudden pretty darn good defense.
58:20Yeah. What's the strategy here? Get the ball out quick.
58:22Let Zay Flowers do the heavy lifting for you.
58:25He's fourth in the NFL in receiving yards, by the way.
58:28The guy's played hurt. He played 45% of the snaps in one game.
58:32He missed the second half of another game. He's absolutely electric here.
58:35Don't overthink it. Don't allow this trendy 30 targets over the past two weeks.
58:39Michael Wilson blind you from the light that is the most handsome fantasy analyst with the best thoughts in all of ESPN
58:45and the Zay Flowers loving Mike Clay. I love that we went from quarterback from Bo Nix and Sam Darnold to Kyle Monunga and Will Shipley.
58:52And now we're arguing about two guys. We have like eight and 10 in Michael Wilson and Zay Flowers.
58:58Look, I have Wilson ranked higher. So the way I'm attacking this is not like who.
59:02Obviously, I know who I have higher. Right. I'm just going to pick that person.
59:06Whoever gets me to move the needle a little bit closer.
59:09So this one, I'm going to have to go with field.
59:13Way to go, field. Thank you. Well done. All right.
59:15I have to give you your flowers. Thank you.
59:18I'll take my six. And I'll give you your money.
59:21No, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate. I appreciate.
59:23All right. Let's dive into some fun rankings here, guys.
59:26Really quick. We're going to end the show. We have a lot of fun being able to do this.
59:31And we want to hear what you guys have to say in chat as we go through it.
59:36These are going to be our favorite team logos.
59:39Each one of us brought three to the table.
59:41Mike, we're going to start with you. You're going to do all three sports logos.
59:46Okay. We'll do my countdown. A quick honorable mention.
59:48Oh, we're starting right there. All right. There we go.
59:51My number one's on the board. Never mind. Yeah.
59:53I'm going Mark Martin's Valvoline scheme or the Valvoline scheme in NASCAR in general is always a home run for me.
59:59I grew up. Mark Martin's always been my guy, my favorite athlete.
60:03He is the best. And before you say drivers aren't athletes.
60:06This guy literally has books about his workout. Go to his face and tell him he's not an athlete.
60:11That guy is still absolutely jacked. He's awesome. Mike was actually conceived at a NASCAR race.
60:16He hasn't told a lot of people that. But I'm wearing my Mark Martin shirt today as well because I love it.
60:22Kent City Chiefs are second. Dallas Texans as well.
60:24They're the old name of their franchise. Always been attracted to those colors for some reason.
60:29Always has hit home. And also my daughter's name, Casey Clay.
60:32Casey. So she wears the Casey merchandise. Oh, look at that.
60:35Number three. Mike's middle name was Daytona. It all makes more sense.
60:38Now it makes more sense. That's correct. And the Colorado Avalanche.
60:41I was a big Avalanche fan growing up because I just loved when they moved from Quebec.
60:46I loved the logo. So I love that. Honorable mention, the 98 to 2008 New York Jets.
60:51Always loved the logo. Like the white helmets, the Chad Pennington era.
60:54Yeah. White helmets. I always loved that one. Pennington's my guy.
60:57Where do you think the Days of Thunder Crew got the term Rubbin's Racin?
61:01No idea. Came from Mike's parents, obviously. That is inappropriate.
61:04Wow. Why don't you go ahead? I'll go next here.
61:07I'll go next here, guys. You actually have to leave the show.
61:10Sorry about that. My number one. Guys, the Anaheim Mighty Ducks.
61:13Do you remember being a kid? This was one of my additives.
61:17And this movie came out. And it was so cool.
61:19You've got the old school hockey mask. Like the Jason mask.
61:23And it looks like a duck. It was unbelievable.
61:25Just a super cool logo. Very nostalgic for my youth.
61:28Also, the Seattle Supersonics. Took all three of my picks, for the record.
61:32Are you serious? Yes. Oh, I love the Seattle Supersonics logo.
61:35It's sort of feel. I guess we have great taste together.
61:38We can be nice to each other now that we're not going against each other.
61:42Oh. And then the Hartford Whalers. No. Awesome. This is an unbelievable logo.
61:46Unbelievable logo. The H with the W. You see the negative space.
61:49It's an unbelievable thing. And the fact that there's no aggressiveness within the Hartford Whalers logo.
61:53It's just a very cool, family-friendly logo. They don't use these logos anymore.
61:57None of your three logos exist anymore. I know.
62:00No one said anything about them being present. They're amazing, though.
62:03Did they? No, they didn't. I'm just saying there's a reason they don't exist anymore.
62:07Sort of interesting that Mike's third logo was the Colorado Avalanche.
62:10I don't know how many people know this, but Colorado used to have a hockey team.
62:14They did? Before the Avalanche. It was the Colorado Rockies.
62:17Not the baseball team. Are you serious? Seriously. This is one of your logos?
62:2176 to 1982. This is the Colorado emblem right in the middle there.
62:25My wife's family. Oh, okay. Go ahead. There's a backstory.
62:28I still love the logo. It's awesome. My in-laws live in Colorado.
62:31My wife grew up partially in Colorado. We have lots of Colorado ties.
62:35That right there is really cool. It's, of course, emblematic of the Rockies and the hockey team, not the baseball team.
62:40The baseball team's logo is okay. Pat Patriot. Throwback to my youth here.
62:44Oh, that's a good one. This is a good one.
62:47But the Patriot's red uniforms are top five in the NFL when they drop their throwbacks.
62:51I always feel like no matter who they're playing, they're going to win that game.
62:56This guy, Pat Patriot, is ferocious. He's hiking a football.
62:58He is jocked. He looks like Mike Clay and Mike and Mark Martin.
63:02All the way around. Awesome. And then finally, last but not least, the UMBC Golden Retrievers.
63:07The first ever 16 team to win a game in the men's NCAA basketball tournament.
63:11Great lacrosse program as well. I have a Golden Retriever.
63:14He's the best. His name is Cisco, and I love him dearly.
63:17And UMBC stands for UMBCisco. Wow. Love that. Thank you.
63:20You're welcome. It's actually University of Maryland. I believe it's Baltimore County is the actual UMBC.
63:24Okay. Gotcha. I love that. All right. Chat says that I get the dub on this one.
63:2950% of chat likes my logos. Mine were way better.
63:32I didn't even finish reading mine, and you're like, yeah, chat says I win.
63:36I know. Well, that's not me. That's just our producer, Addison.
63:39Oh. Sorry, guys. Shout out to a guy, Addison, who made it through his first show today.
63:44Proud of you, buddy. Mine were the best. Very excited to be here.
63:47Cannot wait to come back tomorrow. You know what?
63:50We're going to dive into our week five previews over Thursday and Friday.
63:53We will preview Thursday Night Football and all of the week.
63:56I know. I can't believe we're here already. Man, I don't know where the time goes.
64:01I will sign up for a Fuel G8s concert.
64:03It goes fast. Tell me where to go. Put that on the wheel.
64:07Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself, you guys.
64:11You deserve it. Come back and hang out with us tomorrow.
64:14We'll see you then. Peace. And I see you in the 06010.
64:17See you in the 06010. See you in the 06010.