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0:40Welcome into Fantasy Focus. What's up, friends? Welcome to Fantasy Focus Football.
0:44This is Daniel Dopp. Alongside Field Yates and Mike Clay.
0:46We're here talking sleepers. How are you guys doing today?
0:49I'm doing great. Yeah? Great music here. You guys, I'm sleepy.
0:52You guys look interesting right now. Yeah, you know, I wore my regular sleep attire.
0:56I got my sleep braid in. I don't know if you can tell.
1:00Rosie puts my hair in a sleep braid sometimes.
1:02It's really cool. I got a big sleep braid in, my sleep mask, which obviously has the speakers in the side, so
1:08that way I can listen to Bluetooth stuff and it goes on.
1:12That's pretty great. You like listen to white noise all night?
1:15Yeah, white noise or I listen to hot takes sometimes.
1:17Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, so what about you, Mike?
1:20Why are you dressed like an 1830s child? Because that's how I sleep at night, see?
1:25You sleep. I state with my candle. That's terrifying.
1:27If I woke up and that was outside of my bedroom, I would be so, so sick.
1:32What happens when your daughters see you walking around the house?
1:35Going to check in on the children? No, Mike.
1:37You have no lenses in those glasses? They had them, but they were so bad, so I just popped them out.
1:43You popped them out. You look amazing. I do this so I look cool.
1:47That's why I wear this. You definitely look cool.
1:49Mission accomplished. What do you, do you sleep in pants and a t-shirt?
1:53I do sleep in usually just a t-shirt and athletic shorts, but I have one special exception.
1:58Oh, field. Yes. So this is my handy-dandy unicorn mask, which is pretty awesome.
2:01Who is that? Is that yours? No, it's not.
2:04It's my four-year-old's. Oh, love that. You don't have to lie.
2:07You don't have to lie to us. Well, that's true.
2:10It's mine. It's definitely mine. It's definitely not my four-year-old's, but she's away with my wife for a night to go visit
2:16her parents, so she does not know that I'm wearing this right now.
2:19Love that. Trouble. Love that. All right. Well, today we got a very fun show, a sleepers episode.
2:24Our very own Field Yates brought a sleeper from all 31 professional NFL teams, plus the Cleveland Browns, which was very nice.
2:30So we're going to dive in deep on every single one of these.
2:34In case you didn't watch yesterday, we did breakouts yesterday.
2:36We were actually sleepy yesterday coming off of the fantasy marathon.
2:40It has been a ton of fun this week, but field, we're not done yet.
2:44A sleeper from every NFL team. 32 names. Kick us.
2:46Excuse me. Wait, hold on. The sleeper episode presented by Alan Lazard.
2:50Oh, wow. Wow. If you recall, that was our guy that year.
2:53He had a decency. He kept scoring touchdowns out of nowhere.
2:56It was great. I know. Much too much to grin.
2:59I know. Let me give you three criteria. So we're doing 32 players.
3:02Yes. We're going to improve these. And by the way, some of these are going to be just basically mentioned.
3:08Yeah. 32 names, three criteria, and then sort of one note before we get started.
3:12Criteria A, I am not defining success on these picks as from week one to week 18, these guys are good enough to be in your fantasy lineup.
3:20Okay. Think about Michael Wilson last year. He would have been a great name as like a sleeper because he ended up
3:26having a longer stretch as a dominant wide receiver, but it wasn't start to finish.
3:30It was maybe you drafted him late. You were patient enough to stash him.
3:34He ends up balling out when Marvin Harrison Jr.
3:36is off the field. So that's one. One criteria is success is not defined by 18 games.
3:41It might be four games. This guy is useful for you.
3:44That to me would be successful. Two, a lot of this is going to be capital based.
3:48Like you're going to see here a lot of either rookies, second year players, or guys that went high in the draft.
3:54The idea being they haven't yet reached their full potential.
3:57If they do, they could have a decent role or decent production.
4:01Three, a lot of these guys probably need an injury to somebody ahead of them to have any chance to make a real impact.
4:07And then the declaration at the end is I don't expect to go 32 for 32.
4:11If I get five out of 32 right, I would consider it a decent level of success.
4:16Love that. All right. Wow. Why don't you just pick the right one for every time?
4:21Oh, wow. Well, Mike. Wow. Wow, Mike. I was too sleepy.
4:24That's what I would have done personally, but you know, hey, it's your journey.
4:27I was too sleepy here. Yeah. Let's do the AFC East first.
4:31Field Yates. Here we go. We are going to go to the AFC East.
4:35We're talking about the Buffalo Bills and Dalton Kincaid.
4:37Is this finally the year that Dalton Kincaid finally gets to put it together for a more prolonged stretch of time again?
4:43I'm not looking for 18 weeks of Dalton Kincaid, but this is a former first round pick.
4:48He has some good per target metrics. When the ball is thrown, Dalton Kincaid's way.
4:52Generally speaking, good things happen, but this is a very crowded Buffalo offense.
4:55He has not stayed healthy, nor has he been that consistent.
4:58If he does, maybe things change. Yeah. How about a higher than 37% snap share?
5:03That'd be nice. From last year. You know, he didn't see the field very much.
5:07It's hard to produce when you're on the field a third of the time.
5:11So yeah, as far as where he's going, he could certainly outperform his ADP, we'll say right now.
5:15So I hear you. You could throw the cold water on literally everyone.
5:19I'll pick my spots. That's the conceit, right? Is that like these guys don't have strong cases for why they're going to be great.
5:26Hence why they're being ranked. The case of Kincaid, no higher than tight end 16.
5:30I've got a little bit of Eric. I'm sorry.
5:32Scar tissue on my Dalton Kincaid take. Hey, oh, I see what you did there.
5:36Because last year I was in on him wanting to take that step and it feels like, okay, this is just another year where I'm still waiting.
5:44But if there's anyone that would be a sleeper, the kid still has the skill set.
5:48Obviously it's just if he can get the opportunity.
5:51Before the Patriots traded for AJ Brown, they gave Romeo Dobbs $17 million a year.
5:55And last year, obviously, Stephon Diggs was kind of the only Patriots fantasy relevant wide receiver.
5:59There were moments of Mac Hollins and Kyle Williams had some cool touchdowns.
6:03But really, it was a one wide receiver offense.
6:05Yeah. Maybe it's a two wide receiver offense this year.
6:08And he's a good player. Now, he was inconsistent in Green Bay.
6:11Not sure that's going to change in New England.
6:14But we have seen him produce in the past.
6:16I'm excited for him to be on a team where he actually has a legitimate wide receiver one opposite him.
6:22Because in Green Bay, other than when Christian Watson was healthy, it was just a bunch of wide receiver twos all share in the field.
6:28Now that AJ Brown is going to command double teams, I wonder if that can make Romeo Dobbs be even more efficient in this offense.
6:35Yeah, my hesitation with him is he's averaged exactly 10.2 or 10.3 fantasy points per game three seasons in a row.
6:41And often, he was the number one receiver for a pretty good Packers offense.
6:45So, with AJ Brown there. And they sort of, I think, want to spread it around a little bit to Pop Douglas.
6:51And Kyle Williams is eager, too. So, I don't know if he is going to see consistent production.
6:56Oh, my gosh. You're two players in, Felix. No, it's not.
6:59I'm just. Mike's hesitation is shared by drafters. I know that we have the ADP of all four of the players in the AFC East.
7:06I'm just giving both sides. Nobody. Yeah. Nobody has confidence in these guys.
7:09I think we can pull this up as I go through to my last two in the AFC East.
7:15Dolphins wide receiver Caleb Dugas made one of the coolest catches in the preseason.
7:18Oh. Whoa. Stop the presses. Stop the show. Stop the presses.
7:21I could have gone Caleb Douglas or Chris Bell.
7:24Yeah. I think Chris Bell's a more talented player.
7:26He's coming off of an ACL tear. Suffered in last November.
7:29This team isn't going to be that good. So, I erred on the side of a healthy guy.
7:34Caleb Douglas, a third-round pick. I had a fifth or sixth-round grade on him.
7:38So, he was overdrafted relative to my own evaluation.
7:41But there is a grand opportunity for somebody in Miami to see some number of targets.
7:45Yeah. When a rookie is listed on the depth chart as a starter right away, that's usually a pretty good indicator because oftentimes they're buried on purpose.
7:53That was not the case with him, which is, I know it's a bad depth chart, but still a point in the right direction.
7:59So, I like... And by the way, for the record, I was on board with Kincaid.
8:03Okay. Wow. That's funny the way that Mike's on board sounded so negative.
8:07Field, I've been wondering which one of the Jets you were going to decide.
8:11Which one of the two rookies is going to be the sleeper?
8:14Yeah. Yeah. It's got to either be the tight end or the wide receiver.
8:18That's right. It's not Kenyon Sadiq because Mason Taylor is still there.
8:21Like, and I just... Sadiq banged up. Yep. And just less confidence there than Omar Cooper Jr.
8:26And Omar Cooper Jr. should not be on this list based off what we've read and heard so far this preseason.
8:32Former Lion Isaiah Williams seems to be legitimately competing for number three slash slot wide receiver duties.
8:36Yep. I hear that. And it's probably accurate. I'm not discounting it.
8:40Maybe Isaiah Williams plays more early. But if things go as I expect them to go for the Jets this year, at
8:46some point you got to play the kids. Yeah.
8:48Right? And this is a guy who was talented enough to go 30th overall in the draft.
8:53The Jets moved back up into the first round.
8:55So here's my pedigree play for Omar Cooper Jr.
8:58I feel like whenever people move back up into the first round to make sure they get a player with that fifth
9:04year option, that tells me they really wanted that kid.
9:07So I'm with you on that one. It looks like in this second preseason game, he kind of maybe leaped past Isaiah.
9:13He's going to play the Jets. So that's at least a point in the right direction.
9:17I thought you might go A.D. Mitchell here, too, because he's the guy generating a lot of hype.
9:22But I think at some point you would expect Cooper to...
9:25He better push him. If he doesn't start pushing A.D.
9:28Mitchell this year, that's probably not a good sign.
9:30All right. So let's take a look at the four players we have mentioned so far.
9:35And this is their current ADP. All right. Tight end 15 for Dalton Kincaid.
9:38That's pretty high. Yeah. Wide receiver 55 for Romeo Dobbs.
9:41Wide receiver 69 for Caleb Douglas. Wow. Is Omar Cooper Jr.'s ADP really wide receiver 367?
9:46I mean, he's got to be tied with everyone else, right?
9:49It might just be a big conglomerate of players.
9:51It's probably 67. Yeah. Okay. By the way, or either way, it is a low ADP for Omar Cooper Jr.
9:57Wide receiver 367. Who is wide receiver 367? Probably like a guy who's undrafted, right?
10:01Not even that. Probably a player who is not even in the league anymore.
10:05I don't even know if my list goes up.
10:07Does your list go that far? It does not.
10:10Mike probably does, actually, for Mike. There's probably one.
10:12It does. I go to 400 because of kickers and punters and all that.
10:16Who is it? The Cardinals defense. It's 367. Player 367.
10:19Would you rather have the Cardinals defense or Omar Cooper Jr.?
10:22I'm going to go... I'd go with Omar Cooper Jr., I think.
10:25Yeah. Give me some AFC North players' field. AFC North.
10:28Let's begin in Baltimore. Yep. And another guy that's been generating...
10:31You've been talking about Derrick Henry too much, Fields.
10:33Yeah. Jacoby Lane is my pick. He just barely edges out Derrick Henry.
10:37We've already expressed our reservations about a second wide receiver having a role in Baltimore.
10:41But if you have a better option, I can't go to Justice Hill or somebody in the backfield.
10:46I know that Adam Randall would be an interesting name if Derrick Henry gets hurt.
10:50But I think it would be a committee rather than a one-man band.
10:53I think this team had one name as a sleeper for you to honestly choose from.
10:58That was pretty much it. And again, the buzz has been overwhelmingly positive for Jacoby Lane.
11:02It's a new offense. Perhaps things trend in a different direction.
11:05Yeah. Did I say Jacoby Lane right there? I meant Jacoby Lane.
11:09No, you said Jacoby Lane. Okay, good. Jacoby Lane.
11:11By the way, I think my... People watching, I don't want them to think I'm disrespecting Jacoby Lane.
11:16I haven't projected for three touchdowns, not zero. So...
11:18Okay. I think you might get in the end zone a few times.
11:22That would be fair. I just... I have to...
11:24Like, I don't... You're never going to see a projection for me that's just so like...
11:29Like that. You're not going to have 30 catches and zero touchdowns.
11:32Right. We're all pretty level-headed, so... That would be very Deontay Jones.
11:35There's no... Of that. Of Jacoby Lane. Although, if he scores zero touchdowns, then I stand by it.
11:40That's right. Stand by what's on the screen. Nailed it!
11:43The next one here is the Bengals, and I think probably people would say it should be Andre Yoshivas, who is maybe
11:49the wide receiver three for this team. Maybe. I feel like we've seen Yoshi fill in for Tee Higgins or Jamar Chase
11:55enough and seen kind of yield middling at best results that, I don't know, not really going to go down that path.
12:01Instead, I'm going for a pedigree play and a player that I liked better than where he went.
12:06I had him like late third or early fourth.
12:09He ends up going in the fourth round as Colby Young, wide receiver from Georgia, very talented, big, fast, strong, athletic, good hands.
12:15Dealt with some injuries in college. There were some questions at one point about some off-field concerns for Colby Young, but he is a...
12:22I think good enough to, if something happens to one of Jamar Chase or Tee Higgins, and again, many of these names
12:28need an injury to help their cause, I think Colby Young could be an intriguing name.
12:32Yeah. It sounds like he's pushing Yoshivas already. Yep.
12:34Like, immediately he was. So, no doubt, he could be a guy where...
12:38He's like the perfect if Chase or Higgins are out, you're going to add him to the end of your bench.
12:44We'll start him that first week, but you'll add him and see what kind of...
12:48You want to see what he does. Exactly. Joe Burrow.
12:51Yeah. Yep. I'm with you on that one. Let's see.
12:53And then we have... Yeah, this one's a tough one for me, Field.
12:57I mean, it's not the player. Yeah. Not the player.
13:00It's actually kind of an intriguing one, Casey Concepcion.
13:02Correct. Only because, like, so far, naming some of the pedigree plays are some of the guys that are the rookies.
13:08Like, Caleb Douglas, a third-round rookie. Jacoby Lane, a fourth-round rookie.
13:11Maybe a late third-round rookie. Colby Young, fourth-round rookie.
13:13Like, Casey Concepcion went 24th overall, right? Like, he is very talented.
13:17He's extremely explosive. He's dynamic with the football in his hands.
13:20The Browns will be wise to create some opportunities for him as a runner on top of as a receiver.
13:25It's just hard to have faith in any Browns pass catcher based off how the offense has looked this preseason and what
13:31we expect the quarterback play to look like. That's true.
13:34But much like Harold Fannin last year, this is a guy where you can manufacture short area touches for him.
13:40So, in PPR, that could work out. He might carry the football or get a little...
13:44Flip the ball to him, get the ball in his hands, and that's going to generate fantasy production.
13:49I'd be a little more concerned about Jerry Judy and Denzel Boston being more consistent.
13:53At least, I feel like he maybe has a path to a decent floor in fantasy.
13:57But, by the way, I do like Boston. I've talked about Judy as a late-round flyer as well, just because when you could...
14:04Guys of this pedigree and talent available so late in drafts, that's where...
14:07That's... Just think about your other options in that area, right?
14:10That's why you take flyers on guys like that.
14:13So, honestly, I have no issue taking a shot in any of these Browns receivers.
14:17We're at, like, 50% hit rates so far with Mike.
14:20That's not bad. Yeah, that's not bad. I agree with...
14:22You had to pick somebody from the Browns. I don't want to draft a single player from this team this year.
14:28I think the dysfunction is so bad. I don't think...
14:31If there was one running back inside the top 20, there's probably two of them in my mind that I think could,
14:37like, just be a bust given the situation around him.
14:40We have busts coming up soon, by the way.
14:42I think Quinjon Judkins could be one of those guys, given how bad that offense could be.
14:47I know the defense is good, but, like, I have no faith in not only that offense right now, but this feels
14:53like one of those organizations where when, like, things are just bad, they just bleed into a little bit of everything.
14:59So, I never feel good about hitting draft on a Cleveland Browns player, unfortunately, right now in 2026.
15:04I would not be surprised. Like, by the way, I don't think their defense is as good as it's been in years past.
15:10I agree with that. Obviously, not having a Miles Garrett.
15:13It's a big part of that. Was it Alex Wright?
15:15Went down for the season as well. So, it's not as strong as it's been, and that could lead to more, you know, less conservative games for them.
15:23Maybe a little more throwing in the second half, which would be great, because I think we agree Shaduro will throw it around.
15:29Like, even Watson maybe, but, like, he's going to turn it over.
15:33They might both turn it over a lot, but give us, like, a Jameis Winston sort of season.
15:38Yeah, there we go, baby. Give us that. Just fling the ball around.
15:41Great, Jameis to the Browns. That would be cool.
15:44Got me thinking. I'm trying to think of who your other top 20 running back that you're concerned about being a bust would be.
15:50When we do our bust episode, we should talk before we actually do it about, like, thresholds.
15:55Yeah, what that means. Top 10 quarterback, top 20 running back, wide receiver.
15:58Yeah, yeah. We know you're running back already. Yeah.
16:01It's one of them. Terrible. Bijan Robinson, we get it.
16:04That's it. Which might not be great because Michael Pittman Jr.
16:07is going to play from the slot a decent amount as well.
16:10But a very reliable player overall. Hardly ever dropped the football during his time in college, but he also had zero 50-yard catches in his college career.
16:17So he's going to need volume. He's not going to be one of those guys that gets you four for 87 and a touchdown.
16:24It's going to need to be more like seven targets in a game to really pay off.
16:29Steelers fans are going to be furious with you if I know anything from social because how dare you disrespect Roman Wilson?
16:35Wow. This is apparently his year. I don't know what, but he's at a better camp.
16:39No, he's fast. I'm with you. I like Bernard.
16:42His preferred late-round flyer. I was going to say, what a disappointment, though, for the Steelers that they drafted a running back
16:48in the second round and Caleb Johnson, and he doesn't even make the list as a potential sleeper because it just feels like that's just not.
16:55The one that got away. Yeah. We'll take a look at the AFC North full screen one more time with the ADPs next to him.
17:02Jacoby Lane, wide receiver 63. Colby Young, wide receiver 95.
17:04Casey Concepcion inside the top 55 of wide receivers.
17:07And J.B. Bernard, also wide receiver 69. Who was the other wide receiver that was 69?
17:11Tied. Caleb Douglas? Omar Cooper Jr. was wide receiver 367.
17:14Yeah. Here we go. AFC South, we move forward.
17:16More familiar names here in the AFC. This one's a little bit more fun.
17:20So let's begin with the Houston Texans, and it's Woody Marks.
17:23I like this one a lot. Woody Marks, who was playing with some of the starters during preseason.
17:28Infer from that what you will. Woody Marks is a good player.
17:32I mean, he's a capable player, I should say.
17:34If the Texans felt completely confident that Woody Marks should handle this job unto himself, they wouldn't have traded for David Montgomery.
17:40Given Montgomery cost him draft capital, an offensive lineman, and he's got a real contract.
17:44He's not making $2 million here. I think he's making $8 or $9 million.
17:48$8 million a year, yeah. So real money they are paying to David Montgomery.
17:52But Woody Marks has more juice than David Montgomery right now.
17:55Probably adds as much, if not more, in the passing game.
17:58Maybe he overtakes Monty at some point. Yeah, he got a lot of volume last year.
18:02The efficiency and fantasy production was not there, though.
18:05So you need him. The key, I think, for him is to play better this year would be important.
18:10But yeah, I think he's a good target if you're fading.
18:13Is that the key? David Montgomery. Just play better this year?
18:16I mean, yeah. You know what? If we could give you one piece of advice, Woody, just play better.
18:21Okay, funny. But also, like, you need volume in the pros.
18:24So I'm saying even if he gets the volume, which he had last year, he has to play better if he's going to deliver in fantasy.
18:31He had one top 10 and 9.4 fantasy points per game.
18:34But again, I agree with you. I like this one because I'm not really a big David Montgomery guy, older running back.
18:40So if you're going to fade him or be lower on him, naturally it makes sense to bump up.
18:46Had the Texans not added Kayshaun Booty? Was there a chance that Dalton Schultz would have made this list as a tight end?
18:52I actually have a decent ranking on Dalton Schultz.
18:54Yeah, I think he could have been mentioned here.
18:57Schultz is like one of them guys where it's just like, yeah, he'll finish 13, whatever, but he's never going to be startable.
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20:09Gunner Helm. Titans. Like it. Second year player. Fourth round pick last year out of Texas.
20:14Very, very reliable pass catcher. Like, great hands. Gunner Helm.
20:16The problem is I fear I've just said too many nice things about too many Titans pass catchers right now, right?
20:22Like, you guys know my stance on Carnell Tate.
20:25I'm optimistic about Wando Robinson being a volume guy.
20:27So I want to make sure that I don't overdo it here.
20:30But these are deep sleepers. So Gunner Helm, potential late, last round tight end, probably not even being drafted right now.
20:36Could be a safety valve for Cam Ward. You want to hear a wild stat?
20:40Sure. No. He had 40, I'm telling you anyway.
20:43Helm had 44 catches last season. And remember, he was behind Chico Conquo all year, right?
20:47That's 11th most among rookie tight ends over the past decade.
20:50Is that right? Yeah. Isn't that wild? I guess that's kind of shocking.
20:54First of all, it seems like a low number.
20:56But also, for him to be a situational player and have the 11th most catches, it might be a signal that there could be something there.
21:03He could definitely take a step forward here. Let's go big game hunting here.
21:07Yes, sir. Jacksonville. Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, baby. This one's a cost thing, right?
21:11It's like, none of us really know what to make of Brian Thomas Jr.
21:15But the good news is, based off where he's being drafted right now, we'll have the full screen in a second.
21:21The risk is so far outweighed by the reward.
21:23If Brian Thomas Jr. becomes a top 25 wide receiver, it's a massive value based off of ADP right now.
21:28If Brian Thomas Jr. is just an irregular factor in this offense, he's third or fourth in targets, he has a couple
21:35of decent games in the first half dozen games of the season, but also has a couple of non-factor games, and you want to drop him?
21:42That's fine, too, because he's ranked around wide receiver 40 on ESPN.
21:45Yes. He was wide receiver, what, three or four as a rookie?
21:48And he's wide receiver 40 going into his third year?
21:51It's crazy. I think this is the only wide receiver at this point of the draft that we've seen be so good
21:57in this game that we have ranked this low just because of, honestly, we just need the Dolphins to trade for both Mac Jones and Brian Thomas Jr.
22:05That could be done. That's the thing. Yeah. He's still only 23, but my hesitation with him, and the reason we're not
22:11higher on him is like, it doesn't seem like his role is going to change from last year, where he was a
22:17situational deep threat, not to mention that he's yet to be really good with Trevor Lawrence under center.
22:22It's been only, as to your point, it's only been with Mac Jones.
22:25So, yeah, I'm with you. But he certainly fits the bill.
22:28I think people are probably going to be surprised you didn't mention a couple other names, including Bashal Tootin.
22:34But I don't know if he really counts as a sleeper because he's going in the fifth round.
22:38I was going to say RB 21 or 22 overall.
22:41He's more of a breakout candidate than a sleeper.
22:44Yep. Colts. Josh Downs. A guy whose stock was higher at the beginning of training camp with no Alec Pierce and no Keenan Allen.
22:50Yep. It's now suppressed back downwards, given that he is not healthy.
22:54And they have Keenan Allen. And Alec Pierce may start practicing soon.
22:57We've seen some video of him walking around. Definitely seems to still be favoring that ankle, but perhaps he's on the practice field soon.
23:03One of the things that Josh Downs probably needs to be fantasy relevant, one of the several things, is he's got to play from elsewhere besides the slot.
23:11Yeah. Slot receiving. He's going to be behind Keenan Allen if he only plays from the slot.
23:16There's some talk that he could play a more expanded role in different alignments.
23:20If that happens, he has a chance. If he's just going to be a slot guy with Tyler Warren and Keenan Allen,
23:26it's going to be hard for me to imagine having a legitimate role.
23:29Yeah, this feels a little Dalton Schultz-y like we just talked about because it's funny.
23:33You're outside your top 50 in your ranking field.
23:36You're 46. I'm 47. He's finished between 35th and 45th, all three seasons so far.
23:40And now Michael Pittman's gone. So I feel like he could finish in that range again for the fourth year in a
23:46row and still be kind of a boring fantasy pick.
23:49I mean, the guy has never had more than three end zone targets in a season.
23:53He's just not going to get work in that area.
23:56So I agree that maybe we're a hair low on him, but he just doesn't feel like a guy I'm going to
24:02be pumped to start every week in fantasy. Totally.
24:04Yeah, it's like eight, nine targets, something like that to be useful.
24:08I don't know if he's getting that. My biggest concern with the Colts outside of Tyler Warren, because I think regardless of
24:14who the quarterback is, although we saw him fall off without Daniel Jones last year, I still think Tyler Warren will eat even if it's not Daniel Jones.
24:21No doubt. I'm just worried about everybody else. If it isn't Daniel Jones based on the quarterbacks that the Colts have, I'm
24:27not sure I want to invest in anybody. But if you're picking someone here, feel like Josh Downs has to be the guy.
24:34Yeah. Yeah. Warren feels like such a good floor play.
24:37Yeah. Just his guaranteed usage near the goal line feels huge to me, even with Jonathan Taylor.
24:41Totally. Take a look at the ADFC South ADPs.
24:44And again, these guys are being drafted. I think Woody Marks is higher than RB.
24:48These are a little bit jacked up here. I agree.
24:51Higher than RB 92. Tight end 200 for Gunnar Helm.
24:53Higher than that. Higher than that. He is higher than that.
24:56BTJ wide receiver 38. Oh man, what is that?
24:59Tight end 200. Yeah. But the point is, these guys are all like, we've yet to see somebody in the top 30 of running backs or wide receivers.
25:06And you probably won't on this list. You know what?
25:09I got to give you credit. You've had some real deep sleepers here.
25:13Tight end 200. It was asleep when I built these graphics.
25:16Let's go to the AFC West. And... I love this one.
25:19Can't say I'm excited about this player. Except for on that one dynasty.
25:22This is what fantasy is about though. Okay. This is what fantasy is about.
25:26Okay. It's not all the sleepers and breakout candidates everyone's talking about.
25:30It's the guys like this who are like post-hype guys.
25:32Yeah. Okay. Super hyped up last year. Now they fall.
25:35Now is when you can strike. I like this one a lot.
25:38Wow. Gunnar Helm is going 200th overall, it would appear, right now.
25:42So his ADP is amongst tight ends. No, he's the 200.
25:45No, he actually is tight end 200. Oh my God.
25:47170.6. This is his ADP. Here's... So just a quick...
25:50Some things... Here's the truth. Is that like... If I had to guess, what happens is like when players are drafted so
25:56infrequently, like they kind of have big ties, right?
25:59Where it's like, you know, his ADP is 170.6 is Gunnar Helm's.
26:02Which means he's not being drafted in 10 team leagues.
26:05Maybe he's being drafted on occasion in like deeper leagues with super big benches.
26:09He's like tight end 24. Like real... Yes. Right, right.
26:11That's where we have him ranked. Yes. Yes. Yes.
26:14Agreed. By the way, hey, there you go. Speaking of, a little notification from Adam Schefter.
26:18The Colts are activating Alec Pierce. Let's go. The ADP today.
26:21There we go. ADP about to go. His ADP was like, oh, he got that big contract.
26:26It went up and then it started to plummet with the injury.
26:29It climbed back up now, right? And it hit a floor recently and now it's going to go back up.
26:35Dude, I got so lucky drafting him last night because I was able to put him in my IR slot.
26:40But I won't be able to make any more moves this offseason.
26:43Yeah. Because I'll have to move him if I want to make any more moves.
26:48I did that with a lot of George Kittle.
26:50Yeah. Yeah. How things have changed. All right. Let's go to the Chiefs and Xavier Worth.
26:54That's the player that Mike was referencing right there.
26:57I like his happen. Again, I don't know that I have great confidence in this player.
27:01I have some scar tissue based off of things that happened last year.
27:05I drafted him early in the War Room League.
27:07But Xavier Worth was at least going into last season being talked up as a focal point of the Chiefs offense.
27:13Fastest player in Combine history. Patrick Mahomes has a strong arm.
27:16The Chiefs need more explosive plays. Rashi Rice is going to feast.
27:19But Xavier Worth should be the wide receiver too in this offense.
27:23If he's not, we got real problems. Yeah. And it's not like they went into this offseason and said, he's not cutting it.
27:29We have to address that position. It's Taequann Thornton and a fifth rounder.
27:33Cyrus Allen. I mean, and we know how Travis Kelsey's target is not going to be what he used to be.
27:38They clearly told us they're committed to him this offseason.
27:41So I'm with you. And remember, this guy scored 12 touchdowns in 20 games, including the playoffs as a rookie.
27:47So we've seen it before from him. So this feels like maybe the post-type target.
27:51Maybe you can put Brian Thomas on that. Sure.
27:53But where he's going in drafts right now in the double-digit rounds, it feels like an easy pick to me.
27:59For those that don't watch Fantasy Focus Countdown, first of all, hopefully you will this year.
28:03That's right. But every week, Adam Schefter and I pull a long shot, which is a player that is rostered in under 20% of leagues on ESPN.com.
28:10And whichever player scores more points in that week gets a win for either me or Schefter.
28:15We go for 17 weeks, head-to-head style. We also have a season-long tiebreaker that we announced during the marathon.
28:20My pick was Pat Bryant of the Denver Broncos.
28:23Maybe a bad idea because they have so many guys there.
28:26But Pat Bryant, third-round pick last year, had some moments last year and had some off-season hype at some point this year as well.
28:32Yep. Isn't this the guy that— Jonah Coleman could have been a trendy one.
28:36I just don't really like— Jonah Coleman's really going to command—take command of a backfield after they gave J.K.
28:41Dobbins $10 million to stay. He's won an injury injury.
28:44And R.J. Harvey from last year. R.J. Harvey was a second-round pick last year.
28:48Now the fourth-round rookie is just going to take the backfield over.
28:51I don't think that, but I do think that— With injuries.
28:54Let's say Jalen Waddell or Corlin Sutton, one of them gets hurt, and also J.K.
28:58Dobbins gets hurt, right? They're just eliminated from the situation.
29:01I think Jonah Coleman's way more interesting to me than Pat Bryant.
29:05That's fine. That's just— Wow. That's mean, yeah. What's this— No, I actually— I like Pat Bryant as a player.
29:10I was walking the back. Sorry. I just think he's kind of— Yeah, kind of buried.
29:14He needs an injury, yeah. Didn't Sean Payton last year say that Pat Bryant had, like, some of the Michael Thomas in him?
29:21Now, Sean Payton is sometimes very effusive with his praise and comps to players, but— Wait, I'm going to decide if I
29:27still like— I'm going to defend you for a second here.
29:30Because this comes up a lot in draft coverage.
29:32Is sometimes when you're discussing a player, it's not exciting when you're talking about— I've used this in first draft recently.
29:38There's a wide receiver from Indiana named Charlie Becker.
29:40He's going to have a much bigger role this year with no Omar Cooper Jr.
29:45and no—my goodness, I'm blanking on his name right now.
29:47That's embarrassing. Fourth-round pick for the Ravens. He was— Yes, Jacoby Lane.
29:51No, uh— Serrat. Elijah Serrat. There you go. My gosh, that's—I'm very tired.
29:54That's why I'm here. Very tired right now. Anyways.
29:57I feel slacking. That's right. He doesn't really know college guys, so— So, Charlie Becker, who had an awesome year when he
30:03got opportunities last year, I've talked about him, and I'm like, hey, he should be the kind of guy that should be modeling his game after Mike Evans.
30:10He's this big, long, physical downfield player who can make these great contested catches.
30:14It doesn't mean that he's going to become Mike Evans, right?
30:17It's like, but if I told you, I'm like, yeah, this guy, he should really be modeling his game after, like, you know, Dante Thornton.
30:24Like, that would not be very exciting. Correct. The guy who's, like, you know, maybe going to be an active—maybe going to
30:30be a healthy scratch for the Raiders game. Yeah, his—I would say if you asked the player, too, he'd be like, yeah,
30:36my goal is to be Mike Evans. Correct. Yes.
30:39So, sometimes we use comps, and Sean Payton uses comps to give you an idea.
30:43It's also just way more relatable. Like, much more people know what you mean when you're like, yeah, this guy reminds me a little bit of Alvin Kamara.
30:50Sure. Versus, like, yeah, this guy reminds me a whole lot of, like, you know, Pierre Thomas, who was a great player
30:57back in the day, but, like, today's kids. Anyways, I digress.
31:00By the way, I can confirm Lil Jordan Humphrey's still on the Broncos roster.
31:03Yes! You might want to fade all your Broncos wide receivers.
31:06All right. Here we go. Raiders Jalen Naylor. Yep.
31:09Here's the comp that I'm going to make for Jalen Naylor.
31:12And it's not—again, this player wasn't dominant in fantasy by any stretch, but do you guys remember the year the Patriots signed
31:18Kendrick Bourne amidst all those free agent additions? Of course.
31:21And it was like, wow, like, that's, like, pretty good money for Kendrick Bourne, who was a relative unknown at that point.
31:27Outside of San Francisco, at least. I think there's a little bit of that with the Raiders.
31:31I know Mike recently mentioned how few—like, Jalen Naylor's never had more than six targets in a game.
31:36Yep. Right. This contract was 100% a reflection of what the Raiders think he can be.
31:41Not what he has been up to this point.
31:43Oh, yeah. So, Brock Bowers to the moon, but Jalen Naylor, perhaps useful.
31:47I'm surprised. I'm not surprised you picked him. I get it.
31:50Yes. I thought about Jack Pesch, but— You liked him last year.
31:53I did. I still like him. Yeah, I hope he makes a year too late.
31:57Maybe there's a connection there with Fernando Mendoza, but not looking great so far.
32:01He's definitely in that—there's, like, this dead zone of rookie receivers.
32:04If they're outside a certain threshold as a rookie, it's very rare that they will pan out.
32:09It's usually, like, outside the top 90 scores. They almost never work out.
32:12Like, you're Jameson Williams and Mike Williams are, like—apparently your last name has to be Williams.
32:17DJ Chark, I think, is the other one. There might be, like, one more that's ever had a top 30 season.
32:22It's so unheard of. So, not a good omen for Besh, but, you know, different circumstances this year in Las Vegas.
32:28So, we'll see. All right, last one here. Chargers.
32:31Charlie Kolar got real money. Now, maybe the answer is— Did you just say Charlie Kolar as your sleeper, Field Yates?
32:36Yeah. Wow. The tight end, Charlie Kolar? Walking tight end.
32:39So many ways. Maybe—you guys cut me off before I could say.
32:43Maybe the reason they got all that money was to go be a blocker.
32:46But I think he's athletic enough to make an impact here.
32:49Okay. You could have gone Brennan Thompson. There are a lot of ways you could have gone here.
32:54I need more tight ends in this list. Yeah.
32:57You guys universally hate that pick. Boller is—I do because I don't think there's a pathway to fantasy relevance at all for him.
33:03They have David Njoku there. Rondé Gatson's going to have some sort of pass-catching role.
33:07So, that's my hesitation. I do agree with you, though, that he's an underrated player.
33:11These elite blocking tight ends or standout blocking tight ends are just— No one really, you know, no one really knows their name.
33:18But he's very good. And he probably can catch the ball.
33:21And you know what? He might surprise us and out of nowhere score six touchdowns, to your point.
33:26Thank you. But I just think that he might have zero target games, too, which is the problem that they have.
33:31They're going to be using Alec Engel and all these tight ends.
33:35It's just going to be tough. We're halfway through, and I think I went like 5-11 there.
33:39Yeah. That's not bad, though. I think I would have said Trey Harris in this, just in case something happened.
33:45You're talking about— Yeah. Former third-round pick. All right.
33:47We'll recap the AFC West here really quickly with the ADP.
33:50Xavier Worthy, wide receiver 44. Pat Bryant and Jalen Naylor also weighed down that list.
33:54Charlie Kolar, tight end 64 as well. This is based on ESPN Live Draft trends.
33:59Maybe that wide receiver 367 for Omar Cooper Jr.
34:01was correct. Maybe it was. Figured that out probably on the fly here.
34:05Do you have any questions? Yeah, we got a couple of questions from our chat here.
34:09Big shout-out to Eric Moody as well. Make sure you follow him at EricNMoody.
34:13Always holding down the chat. Scott McClory says, Mike Clay is late for a shift in the Amish village to turn the butter.
34:19Sure of what it looks like. How do you turn butter?
34:22I don't even know. Scott McClory also says, Clay looks like he is late for the local production of A Christmas Carol.
34:28That is accurate. That one's less clever because that's the exact costume I'm wearing.
34:32The Carter 901. Mike Clay looks like a fantasy wizard or Father Time.
34:36Yes, accurate. That's also fair. Which one would you prefer to me?
34:39Yeah, which one would you want to be? Stressy says, Mike Clay looking like a tall glass of milk.
34:44I do not want to try. That's amazing. Tyler would spill me if I was a glass of milk.
34:49So Tyler would do that. Jay Remington says, Mike Clay found an old baseball sock to use for his hat today.
34:55Wow. A nighttime hat. I don't know what the purpose of it is, but.
34:59Your nighttime hat? Yeah. Riley Nagel. Clay looks like he's about to wake up and tell everyone, the British are coming.
35:05The British are coming. What do you think the candle's for?
35:08I need to be able to see. Ball Knowledge Prod says, Mike Clay looks like the Sandman.
35:12Sandman? I don't know what that is. The Sandman Sing Me to Sleep.
35:16Yeah. Oh, okay. That's amazing. All right. Good stuff.
35:18Hey, Mike, if nothing else, the people appreciated your name.
35:21I love that. I'm a little offended. This is just what I said.
35:25Shout out to chat. That's exactly why you are here.
35:28Send in more roasts for Mike Clay. That's why we want you guys in our chat every single day.
35:33Please bring it. Okay. So got it. I have some clarity here.
35:36Okay. It will help things. And this comes from Keith.
35:39Keith Lipscomb. So a player who isn't drafted at all gets an ADP value of 170.
35:43So that's how those numbers get weird. So like in the case of Omar Cooper Jr., there are leagues that go beyond 160 or 170.
35:50Maybe they go, maybe it's a 20-team league. He's being drafted late enough where if you get drafted five times at 200th
35:56overall, your ADP registers lower than somebody who's not drafted in any leagues whatsoever.
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37:18Let's dive into the NFC East here. Let's do it.
37:21There's a lot of giants that we've been talking about that we are pumped this year.
37:26Give me a sleeper on this squad, though. I'm mostly trying to make Mike mad here with Angie Harris.
37:31Yeah, you are. I'm furious about this. Again, I hear you on Cam Scadaboo.
37:35I am a Cam Scadaboo believer as well. Just like.
37:37Like. If something happens to Scadaboo, who is a an injury prone player, who takes over as the Giants lead back?
37:43I think the answer is not. She hears. Lead back.
37:46Yes, probably committee. I'm also curious to see what they do with Tracy or Singletary, like which they're not all four aren't sticking.
37:52I don't. I don't. Depends on the role. That's so.
37:55That would be. Especially like a polished veteran like Singletary or I mean, Tracy's younger, but he's he's been so busy the last two years.
38:02I will be surprised because none of them played special teams last year.
38:05Right. So I probably could as a return man.
38:08But how much guaranteed money did you say they gave me three million for Najee?
38:12That's so much money to just. He'll be on the roster.
38:15Yeah. So like, who's the which one is not?
38:17You know what I mean? Like, who do you?
38:20I would. I think Singletary is the least likely.
38:22But if they really are. If they went out and got Najee because Tracy is not acceptable in the past blocking role.
38:28Right. Like that's what happened in the first preseason game.
38:31Maybe it's maybe they can get better. Maybe like no one will trade for Singletary, but Tracy Canetta conditional seventh or something.
38:37I don't know. We'll see. Not I'll be surprised if all four make not to bore people with like roster management minutiae.
38:43But Devin Singletary is a vested veteran, which means you can cut him and not have him go to waivers.
38:49He could be an easy like we're going to cut you at the roster cut down, sign you to the practice squad.
38:55He's already got a million plus and guaranteed money this year.
38:58So he's making no less cash than he would have made.
39:01And the Giants still get to keep him around.
39:03Maybe he's brought up from the practice squad. He feels like he still probably is running back two and is, you know,
39:09he's still capable of being at two. I mean, he was a really underrated, effective lead back for the Bills for Alton.
39:15And that wasn't that long ago. He always plays, right?
39:18It seems to be death. I would like to see him elsewhere where he can actually get some reps.
39:23Because the Eagles, this one's obvious to me. Mekhi Lemon.
39:26Mm-hmm. You have 21st overall pick, right? And these are kind of the perfect ones where it's like he's largely sliding under the radar.
39:33We have hardly talked about him because he's been hurt.
39:35A lot of the attention has been paid to just the new look offense in general.
39:40Devontae Smith and the potential for a gigantic leap here.
39:43Mekhi Lemon. I thought you would do Wicks. You've been talking about him.
39:46I have been. And he's still, Wicks is cheaper, I believe, still than Lemon.
39:50So I'm a little surprised by that. I think you're going to see Wicks early on make some splash plays.
39:55And then Lemon's role is going to expand. And then they're going to both be unusable in fantasy.
40:00Fair. Maybe later in the year, Lemon kind of breaks out.
40:03But we've talked about this. I don't know if they're going to support a second wide receiver.
40:08Especially if Dallas Goddard's healthy. If Dallas Goddard misses time, which he often does, maybe it changes a little bit.
40:14Because I don't think Eli Stowers is ready. Stowers?
40:16Stowers? Eli Stowers, yeah. Yeah, I don't think he's ready for prime time just yet.
40:20Man, it does feel like he's had one of the more ignominious training camps for a second-round player.
40:25Right? Yeah. Yeah, not good. Yeah, long, long ways ahead.
40:28Of course, of course. They don't need him this year.
40:31Yes, he is. He's also been playing tight end for like two and a half seasons.
40:35He is a new to the position player. For the Cowboys, I'm actually following Adam Schefter's lead.
40:40His season-long pick for FFCs. Long shots. Ryan Flannoy, wide receiver, who many people used the stat already.
40:45He had more touchdowns last year than C.D. Lamb.
40:47Hate that. Flannoy. For the Commanders, fun one here for me.
40:50Antonio Williams. Yeah. Now, at the beginning of the summer, before they added Stephon Diggs, this guy felt like one of the trendier late-round sleepers.
40:57Yep. Because of Stephon Diggs' addition, Antonio Williams goes down the board.
41:00But still a talented guy. Third-round pick. Great route runner.
41:03He's going to play mostly from the slot. But has a little bit more to that in his game, in my opinion.
41:09About largely a reliable player. So, Antonio Williams is my pick there.
41:12Yeah. He's kind of buried right now, but maybe at some point this year he gets some run.
41:17Totally hear you. I would have loved this year for it to be Ben Sinnott, but just loved him as like a
41:23eventual replacement for Zach Ertz, but it didn't happen, obviously.
41:26I don't trust him yet. He's more in an H-back role.
41:29It's just not going to happen. But that one stings in Dynasty.
41:32Yeah. It does. The end of a lot of Dynasty benches, or at least I did until this offseason.
41:38Let's take a look at the ADP of those four players in the NFC East, excuse me.
41:42And low is the answer. Low. Low, low. None of them even inside the top 100 for ADP at their respective positions.
41:48Wow. Yeah. McKay Lemon and wide receiver 101 right now.
41:51Lemon and Flannoy in 12-teamers. All right. Lemon's going most drafts.
41:54Flannoy, 12-teamers, maybe at the very end. Williams probably pretty much uncrafted at this point.
41:58And Harris, yeah, I mean, he fits in that late-round flyer sort of territory now.
42:02Yeah. Let's go to the NFC North. And a familiar face to multiple teams within its vision is my pick for the Bears.
42:09We've talked about so many Bears players. Nobody in really the sleeper category.
42:12But Khalif Raymond, who, think about last year, Lameda Zaccheaus, who had this role that was real for the Bears.
42:18Now, part of that was the youth of Luther Byrd in the third and some of the health things that took place for the Bears last year.
42:25And Zaccheaus did not capitalize on that role nearly enough.
42:28Khalif Raymond was a very – he's a Ben Johnson guy, right?
42:31He knows him from his time in Detroit. Sure does.
42:34And Raymond, very good punt returner. That was probably the most important thing for the Bears.
42:38But I could see him taking slot roles for Chicago and what is a high-powered offense.
42:43Yeah. Maybe if somebody's out – like if Luther Byrd, let's just say, is a setback and he misses week one, Raymond probably gets those routes.
42:50But I think the guy that's going to jump him in ADP in the late rounds would be Zavian Thomas, third rounder.
42:56So, yeah, I don't know. This feels Alan Lazardi.
42:58Like maybe if they do score a lot, he'll steal occasional touchdowns.
43:02But, man, I don't like this one. I'm not drafting Khalif Raymond.
43:05Our group chat, the three of us have a group chat.
43:08It's called Alan Lazard, NFL MVP. It's true. It's been that way for like two years.
43:12For a minute now. It's great. I love it.
43:15I love that. Lions. Yeah. Didn't quite know where to go here because some of the rhetoric is not great surrounding Isaac Tesla.
43:21Yeah. Like he's making awesome catches. But Dan Campbell had a quote that was something to the effect of, we need to see more than just one-handed catches.
43:29He did say that. Who would you have gone with, Daniel?
43:32I would have gone with Isaiah Pacheco. Okay. That's fair.
43:35Because I think Isaiah Pacheco not only has an insurance back role, I don't think he would have standalone value, but the
43:41RB2 in Detroit for four consecutive seasons has scored at least eight touchdowns.
43:44Yeah. Isaiah Pacheco, I think, will have touchdown equity because of how much this Lions offense scores.
43:49And even if they're going to give Jameer Gibbs, it's going to be tough for him to hit almost 20 touchdowns again in another season.
43:56I mean, it could happen with this offense, but I just think Isaiah Pacheco would be the guy because of the unfortunate
44:02negative rhetoric we've heard around Isaac Tesla. If I remember my stat correctly, there's only been three instances in NFL history of
44:08a running back scoring 20 plus touchdowns more than once.
44:11Wow. Yeah. It's pretty rare. I mean, to get to that number.
44:14That's huge. Your point. By the way. Danny and Tomlinson probably.
44:17I think he might've been one. Maybe Marshall. Oh, Marshall.
44:20Marshall. Jonathan Taylor is one of them. Oh, JT.
44:22Yeah. So he's he part of the case I made that he'll score fewer touchdowns is it's never happened before.
44:28Our running back scored 20 plus touchdowns three times.
44:30So we will see. But on your Tesla point, he was 11th in the NFL, the entire NFL at end zone targets last year.
44:37Wow. It's kind of wild considering how little he played last year.
44:40That's why he scored six touchdowns. So he could be, it could be like a, you know, a good comp I feel
44:46like for him is two years ago, Rashad Bateman.
44:48Like if he doesn't catch a ton of passes, but he plays an expanded role and scores like nine touchdowns in this offense.
44:55Maybe like he's one of the guys that could kind of break the mold with touchdowns based on our, excuse me.
45:01Speaking of targets, I just got a text from an, actually it's an email.
45:04It's an I message. Hi, this is I'll eliminate the name with your target based off your background.
45:09We'd love to invite you to a hassle free remote role.
45:12Which one of you is doing that to me right now?
45:15I wish I could tell you all of the spam that I was getting.
45:19And Daniel, I'm trying to get him off the pot, right?
45:22Is that what it is? It's just nonstop. Oh man, find him something, but let's go to the Vikings here.
45:28Yeah. I'm going to stick here over target. Vikings.
45:30You keep talking about Khalif Raymond. You're going to have to take a new job.
45:34Demond Claiborne, rookie running back out of Wake Forest.
45:37Yep. Capable pass catching back. And they have an older back in Aaron Jones, plus a one dimensional back in Jordan Mason.
45:43So give me Demond Claiborne here. Yeah. This is one of those guys.
45:46You can see the projection on the screen, 14 carries and five catches this season.
45:50This is a projections versus rankings discussion where it, you know, we know they're going to run the offense through two players.
45:57Right. The season, but if something were to happen to one of them or they're struggling or Jones shows his age or
46:03Mason still can't do anything in passing situations, they could expand his role on a dime and it'll be an immediate waiver claim.
46:09So totally get this one just because they don't really have anyone else as their number three.
46:14He's speedy, right? Fast. Yep. Pretty good athlete overall.
46:16A good pass catcher at Wake Forest. Didn't have a great final season, but two years ago was pretty impressive.
46:22Let's go to the Packers. And this is one of the more known names on this list.
46:26Marshawn Lloyd. Sure. We are waiting. Makes a lot of sense.
46:29We are waiting right now. It's 1043 and Thursday, August 27th.
46:32We are still awaiting more information that I think we could get on Josh Jacobs.
46:36And the moment that happens, we have a better feel for what Marshawn Lloyd's potential value might be, but he is an essential ad right now.
46:43If you're drafting prior to the Josh Jacobs news and obviously, and he's an essential ad.
46:48If we get Josh Jacobs news one way or the other, he's an important ad.
46:52Even if the Josh Jacobs news is no punishment, he's still the guy, the next man up for the Packers in that backfield.
46:58Yeah. Like it, uh, as you were saying that I saw, I had a bunch of push notifications from Adam Schefter.
47:04So sort of make sure we didn't get any news.
47:07Uh, but one piece of news he did drop us, Cedric Tillman released by the Browns.
47:11So do you want to change your, I guess that only helps your Casey.
47:15Yeah. The own a little, it goes from wide receiver 367 to wide receiver 366, moving up the rankings.
47:20He had a cup of tea. There is a good option for a few weeks.
47:24We'll see if he goes somewhere else now. It's been a tough run for Tennessee wide receivers recently in the NFL.
47:30Not all of them, but a decent number of them.
47:33Quick look back at the NFC North here with their ADPs just for fun, because we've been having a good time with this.
47:39109 for Khalif Raymond, 347 for Isaac Tesla, 224 for Daman Claiborne.
47:43So it's definitely field. You're definitely in the sleeper territory with these guys.
47:46I love it with that one. Let's talk about the NFC South.
47:49Couple names in here. Actually, there's a few names in the NFC South that are legitimately worth keeping in mind.
47:55Devon Vele, Saints. The Saints, obviously are going to have Jordan Tyson out for some period of time.
48:00Yep. Vele was fine down the stretch for them and reliable target.
48:03Sounds like Tyler Shuck's excellence training camp has continued into recent days as well.
48:07Fast paced offense, a lot of snaps. Yeah, baby.
48:09Potentially a lot of passing volume. Give me Devon Vele.
48:12I like it. Yeah. Week four, he might be, we're gonna be like, why is he, why is this guy like 26 in fantasy points?
48:19Like, where did that come from? Like, it's just, yeah.
48:22And it feels like one of those things. And then it'll disappear after that.
48:26Once Jordan Tyson comes back and they kind of make a shift.
48:29But yeah, this next one is one of my favorites.
48:32This is you. This is Jalen McMillan. Daniel's guy for the Buccaneers.
48:35That's right. Talented player. Missed a lot of last year.
48:38Much, if not all of last year. Most of.
48:40Because of an injury, right? Yep. But really talented guy.
48:43You flash as a rookie. Yep. Flash as a rookie.
48:46Final five games of his rookie season. Averaged over 19 fantasy points per game.
48:49Week 17 last year. Had seven for 114. Like, when he gets an opportunity and he's healthy.
48:54Yeah. The kid has been really good. I like him just in case anything happens to Chris Godwin or that role opens up.
49:00Because Baker Mayfield, as we've talked about, I do think is going to be on one this season.
49:05Wanting to be able to get. Yeah. This is one of the funny ones where it's like at the end of the
49:11year, we're either going to be like, ah, man, Chris Godwin is so good.
49:15We should have had him higher. Or, ah, man, like we knew Chris Godwin was cooked.
49:20We should have had McMillan way higher. Like, it's going to be one of those two.
49:24It's just a matter of figuring out which one it is.
49:27Yep. Uh, from Jalen McMillan to Jalen Coker. Also another good one, man.
49:31He's a pretty well-known deep sleeper by now, but he did have four top 25 weeks in his final seven games of 2025.
49:37So there was some proven production there. Got paid nicely this off season.
49:41Uh, for the Falcons. Hmm. Where do you turn here for Atlanta?
49:44They're a pretty cut and dry offense, right? Bijon, Kyle Pitts, Drake London.
49:47How about you, Han Dotson? Who actually got a decent contract from them this off season.
49:52Not huge, but decent to be their wide receiver too.
49:55Yeah. Hard to find an option here in Atlanta if I'm being entirely candid.
49:58Yeah. I'm, I'm just hoping at some point Zachariah Branch like makes a leap and takes on that number two role alongside
50:04Drake London and maybe gets like enough of a target share to, to flirt with fantasy relevance.
50:09But I think, uh, I think you're right when they walk out in the field to open the season, Dotson's going to
50:15be the guy out there with London and branches.
50:18Maybe someday, but yeah, this is a boring one.
50:20I can't not hear this name and think of our dynasty league, even though it's the Josh Dotson.
50:25I feel like we changed it to the Jahan Dotson.
50:28Yes. It's, I think it used to be at least once, right?
50:31It was Josh Doxon. And wait, then it was, and then it was John Dotson now.
50:35Yeah. Now it's back to the Josh Dotson. Two former commanders, right?
50:39That's right. Exactly. All right. Last year. Here's the ADP and some decent numbers here, right?
50:43I mean, Jalen, those two in the middle, Jalen Coker, are both top 66 wide receivers.
50:48And that brings us to our last division. Again, these are super, super deep.
50:51We're talking about guys with wide receiver 367. Their ADP is so low.
50:55We first thought we had a graphical error on the Omar Cooper, Jr.
50:59Full screen. So he's going early. Yeah. Right. There's three names I like in the NFC West here.
51:03There are good names here. Let's go to the Seahawks.
51:06Sorry. That's all right. I take my pen. No big deal.
51:09Rashid Shahid, wide receiver. I like this one. By all accounts, there's been, it's been a really solid training camp for Cooper cup.
51:16But Rashid Shahid can absolutely fly. I think he's one of those guys that the more opportunities he's gets, the better an offense with him in it is.
51:23But Seattle may have also felt like he's being reinvested into for one season from now, right?
51:28It's Cooper cup next year may or may not be a part of the team.
51:32Let's keep a young enough, fast enough, explosive enough player in special teams to be a useful players, a third wide out this year, but I like him.
51:40Yeah. He's going after like, he's somewhat of a name now, but he's still going after a lot of the names you
51:46just talked about, including Coker and Dobbs Concepcion. Like obviously it's a first round pick, but he's going after all those guys.
51:52So like it. The biggest name on this list, the most fantasy relevant name on this list, if it were career accolades,
51:58Steve O Samuel for the 49ers, Dejan Sribling. I think he has moved.
52:01He's graduated from deep sleeper category. Right. And if it's not Dejan Sribling, who is it amongst these veteran wide receivers?
52:07Because while Sribling could have a role, we'd all love to see that.
52:11Maybe the Niners go into the year and they're like, we're old, but if we line up in week one, or maybe
52:17even week two or three, depending on where George Kittle's progress continues over the next two weeks with a rock party, Christian
52:23McCaffrey, Kyle use check backfield, George Kittle, Christian Kirk, Mike Evans, Debo Samuel wide receiver room.
52:27Things might be okay. They might break down, but they might be okay.
52:31It wasn't crazy money for Debo to go back to San Francisco, but he's obviously very familiar with this offense.
52:36Kyle Shanahan, as good as there is in crafting up run after catch opportunities for players.
52:41Yep. He may not be as fast as he once was, but Debo still really good contact strength, elusive enough to do some things after the catch.
52:48Debo Samuel's my pick. Yeah. Not a big touchdown guy, but at least 85 touches and 800 scrimmage yards in five consecutive seasons.
52:54Now he just continues to dominate in the short area.
52:57He's great with the ball in his hands. And yeah, he's, he's tricky because I kind of flipped.
53:02I have him like involved as a rusher, which he does.
53:05Like he's, he's going to do, he's back in San Francisco.
53:08He did it less in Washington, but he's always done it with Kyle Shanahan.
53:12But I moved his target share behind dribbling. I think just when they're throwing the ball, I feel a little more confident
53:18in dribbling's role in the passing game, but I could be wrong about that.
53:22If they feature Samuel, like they did before he went to Washington, he's going to be in a good spot.
53:27Stribbling was the obvious pick until the preseason happened.
53:30Then he just got too many. Couldn't be a sleeper anymore.
53:33Just too many. Yeah. And pricey. Yeah. For the Cardinals, just because you make the case for a player, it doesn't mean
53:39you're making the anti case for the player that is.
53:42Oh, good hedge. I'm serious though. Like Tyler Algier, right?
53:44Like there is a world, a world. I'm not, this is not a world that I would endorse, but there's a world
53:50in which Arizona has a more egalitarian approach in the backfield.
53:53And they're like, Hey, Tyler Algier is going to be on the field for the first drive of the game.
53:59And Tyler Algier is going to be on the field.
54:02And we have the ball at the three yard line going in.
54:05He's going to have 180 carries this up this upcoming season.
54:08And Jeremiah love this is going to, maybe their approach is going to be like it, what it was for Atlanta during B.
54:14John Robinson's first season as well. With Tyler Algier on the field.
54:18It was his second year in the NFL. Bijan was amazing when he got the ball, but Arthur Smith, just for whatever
54:24reason, didn't give him the football enough. Not pumped about it.
54:27If that happens, but it's at least possible. Yeah, no, I see it.
54:30I, I think Algier's presence and his contract and his involvement so far with the first team is why Jeremiah loves not
54:36going in the end of the first round. Like other, other, like Bijan and like Gentty and all these guys did in years past.
54:43So, you know, keep, yeah, you can like Algier and still be taking the discount on Jeremiah love.
54:48You know how I know you went to Wesleyan?
54:50How? Uh, cause I have Wesleyan boxers. Cause you just use that is also, that's part two field.
54:55Cause you use the word egalitarian, which I had never heard before.
54:59I had to look it up on the internet.
55:01I told me before. Yeah. I love the word.
55:03Thank you. Meaning it's all people are equal and should have the same rights, freedom and opportunities.
55:08That's what we want in that backfield. No, we don't.
55:11Well, that's like, uh, Sean Payton is distribution of football.
55:14That's what it is. We don't want it in that backfield, but yes, that's a show the most egalitarian offenses to avoid or something.
55:20That's a classic SEO guys for our producers. Let's do that again.
55:23People Google that word all the time. Yes. Totally.
55:26A hundred percent. We'll make sure that one happens.
55:28One of the most. Break some ground here. Uh, last but not least, nice guy, Terrence Ferguson.
55:33Love him. Tight end for the Rams. Uh, we talked about this a lot yesterday, but you sniped me on him in the draft.
55:40You missed yesterday. I had to put my money where my mouth, where my mouth was.
55:44And I took Brock Bowers early too. You did.
55:47I was just like, whatever. Sometimes you just no risk it, no biscuit.
55:50Last night was a fun draft. Last night was a fun draft for field tonight because it's more of a home league.
55:56And so I felt like I got to target guys when white draft with you people.
56:01You, we all know what everyone's doing. So it's fun to draft with everyone.
56:04That's like a little bit different. And I was the only person in this league to get an A grade from Mike.
56:10It's true. Well, it sounds like you're, uh, you're catching up on some of these guys.
56:15I love Ferguson. And yeah, I mean, this checks out.
56:18I had my first two picks were Puka Nakua and Jeremiah love.
56:21Oh, that'll help. So that, that was part of the guys that Mike projected higher than them on.
56:26Yes. no real surprises in that draft. No, no, that's pretty good.
56:29Chalky territory in the first 10 or so picks.
56:32I also, I keep talking about it. I'm not going to take Josh Allen.
56:35And he fell to the fourth round last night.
56:38And I was like, you know what? I can't have no Josh Allen shares, which as of right now, I have no
56:44Josh Allen shares and I am tumbling towards a reality here.
56:47We're all going to face it to a degree is I play in two dynasty leagues and one keeper league.
56:52Uh, so it's a modified keeper league too. So you can keep, it's, it's a salary cap.
56:57So you don't keep, if you have seven keepers from one year to the next, that's a huge number.
57:02Um, I do not have Jameer Gibbs on any of those three teams.
57:06I did take B. John Robinson in the Scotch fish bowl, but if I don't get a top two pick and my
57:12lotteries going forward, I'm not going to have any Jameer Gibbs.
57:15Yeah. That's literally, you had a situation like that a couple of years ago, didn't you?
57:19It was no Justin Jefferson. Is that, that's what it was.
57:22And last year I remember chase. Yeah. Yeah. So last night, my first top three pick.
57:27And so it was my first opportunity to select either Jamar chase or Puka Nikua.
57:31I don't have a good read. I thought maybe if this Jamar chase news is worse than we, that we first heard,
57:37he could drop to like seven or something. It doesn't seem like it's, it seems like it's fine.
57:42I just, yeah, I was like, what's more, I didn't know it was more likely.
57:46I guess maybe what's more likely is Puka gets suspended.
57:49He drops to like seven, but truthfully, no risk it, no biscuit.
57:52I know we just came out of the fantasy marathon.
57:55Like this is where my life, every night. I feel like for the next week and a half to two weeks, it's
58:01like, I've got a draft planned somewhere, baby. Yes.
58:03It's a ton of fun. Hey, we actually have a question really quickly and chat about Josh Allen, since you brought him up field.
58:10Jade. So let's head over to our YouTube chat.
58:12This one comes from Sheldon Leroy. I feel like if I go Josh Allen early, I can force the QB run and get players to fall to me.
58:20How does that sound? Is it too dangerous? That hasn't been my experience so far.
58:24I feel like Allen goes and then everyone still waits.
58:27People wait. But then once like Lamar goes and Jaden goes, then it starts.
58:31Then it's like, I got to get Drake may or Joe Burrow.
58:34They start Jalen hurts. They start going, but I feel like Allen is kind of in his own, own tier this year.
58:40And everyone kind of knows it. Yes. Especially with Jaden Daniels coming off of an injury plague season.
58:45Same deal with the Lamar Jackson season. So yeah, Josh is going to be a standalone QB one quickly.
58:50ADP on those four guys is low. No surprise there.
58:53NFC West. NFC West players. Yep. Excuse me. Low.
58:55They meant the quarterbacks. Like Josh Allen is going QB 722.
58:58Wide receiver. This is probably the strongest division. Oh, here we go.
59:02Excuse me. Wide receiver 56 for Rashid Shahid. Wide receiver 48 for Tebow Samuel.
59:06RB 46 for Tyler Algier. And tight end 20 for Terrence Ferguson.
59:09We have busts coming tomorrow. Yeah, we do. I think we should decide right now amongst us.
59:14Like, it's not fun if it's like, yeah, Cam Ward's my quarterback bust.
59:17Oh, I'm sorry. Quarterback 21. All right. All right.
59:20I'll hear you out, but also I think we are, we have some comments.
59:23We'll apply some common sense here, but yeah, what's your thought?
59:26Do we go top 10 QBs? Consensus rank top 10 QBs.
59:29Okay. And tight ends. All right. So top 10 for quarterback and tight end.
59:33We have to pick someone in the top 10.
59:36Consensus ranks in 2020. In 20 and 20. 20 running back, 20 running back.
59:40And I will say, I will suggest that they're loose.
59:42Just in case there's someone, you know, if it's wide receiver 21, you think what's loose.
59:47Like, I'll give you an example. Let me give you an example.
59:50I feel like Mike Evans fits the bill based on where he's going address.
59:54I think he's fading a little bit, but I feel like, don't you think Mike Evans going in the fifth round?
60:00Like just being, yeah, I, I, you lock into, obviously industry wide ADP better than I do.
60:04Mike, I focus on the ESPN live draft data.
60:07Cause I have, I don't have to do it.
60:09I don't have to do it. I'm just like, I feel like there's, there might be a couple I want to slip
60:15in there, but I think we can apply some common sense, but I'll, I'll basically, we don't need Jerry Judy as your wide receiver.
60:22No, right. Let's apply some common sense. And by the way, just prepare for this accordingly.
60:26Like we are going to have players that we individually have ranked very high.
60:30Like my wide receiver bus is not going to be a guy that I have at wide receiver 32.
60:35And you guys all have his wide receiver. It might be a player that I have is wide receiver 17.
60:41There's a case for and a case against, we'll go through all this again tomorrow.
60:45And a bus also doesn't have to mean that they finish 80th.
60:48You know what I mean? Like Trey McBride to just like is tight end five this year.
60:53That's kind of a bus based on where you're drafting him.
60:56You know what I mean? Even if he's tight end two or tight end one, and there's no difference between tight end
61:02one and tight end five overall, that would be a bus.
61:05Yeah. Feels like you guys just keep talking about all the players we're going to talk about tomorrow.
61:10Oh, wow. So I'm excited to dive into that.
61:12Very fun. Bust episode coming up tomorrow. Make sure you go back, check out the rest of the things that we've done.
61:18Breakouts yesterday, sleepers today, bus tomorrow. We love you guys.
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