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0:43What's up, friends? Welcome to Fantasy Focus Football alongside Mike Clay and Field Yates.
0:46My name is Daniel Dopp. Very excited to bring a Thursday episode week to preview part one, my friends.
0:51Diving into a bunch of the games today. We got a lot on tap.
0:55But first and foremost, guys, also a Thursday Night Football game.
0:58How are you doing? I'm great. I'm actually curious what you're doing.
1:01We had this conversation, I think, after the show yesterday about whether you enjoy when your beloved team plays on Thursday Night
1:07Football or if you prefer for them to play on Sunday.
1:10I had a strong take on this. You did, yeah.
1:13Yes, I do not like Thursday Night Football. Not because the quality of football isn't great, but because I wait all week for that Sunday ritual of football.
1:20There is a ritual for me of watching my team on Sundays.
1:23The only time I'm okay breaking that is Monday Night Football when the entire country wants to watch the game.
1:29Yeah, fair. Okay. So that's where I'm at on this one.
1:32However, that means I get to watch all the games equally on Sunday without the Lions.
1:36Yeah, and you know, you could pull off a pretty big upset tonight if they go into the new Bills Stadium.
1:42That's true. That'll be a trivia answer for a long time.
1:45Yeah. In the first game in the new Bills Stadium.
1:47Ah, true. Look at that. See, future Lions. Haven't the Bills like won more games in MetLife Stadium than the Jets have
1:53in like the last two years or something? Isn't there some like ridiculous like, you know, the Bills are free now?
1:59I don't know. That's a great question. I'm probably wrong in that one, but interesting.
2:03Yeah, I actually enjoy watching all standalone games. You'd prefer to have them standalone tonight because of the ability to watch all games sort of equally come Sunday.
2:10But I cannot wait for this one tonight. It is going to be huge.
2:14It's going to be fun. We'll talk about Lions and Bills in just a moment.
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2:33Yeah. We'll get you one too. Do I get that for being first and starts of the week in week one?
2:39Is that how that works? No, you don't. No, I don't.
2:42Well, we're off to go. Fantasy Focus Show League, how'd you do in that?
2:46I did not do good. Okay. That's what you get.
2:48There you go. All right. I'm off to a slow start, but that happened last year too, and it ended well.
2:54We're not going to talk much about the Focus Show League week to week, but I will just note that I think
3:00I scored the second most points in the league this week.
3:03Good for you. And lost to Liz by 40.
3:05Oh, by 40. That's amazing. Liz absolutely dominated my team.
3:08That's amazing. I put up 155, and she put up 195.
3:11That's unreal. So Liz, officially the team to beat.
3:13She crushed me in the Countdown League as well, Fantasy Focus Countdown League.
3:17Wow, Liz. Yeah, she's pretty good at football. Everything's coming up Liz right now.
3:20You know who else is good at football but may not be available here in week two?
3:25Nico Collins, guys. We found out today may be missing here in week two.
3:29Banged up, hurt his hamstring injury in Wednesday's practice.
3:31Yep. I think it sounds safe to say that if you have Nico Collins, you should probably consider making other plans just
3:37for this week, although it sounds like they avoided potentially long-term injury here.
3:41Yeah, so this is good news, bad news, right?
3:43Correct. Like, you see a player get added to the injury reports because of an injury that took place during practice, and
3:49you immediately think to yourself, am I going to be without my wide receiver one or two for a month, or could he play this upcoming weekend?
3:56It sounds like probably not this weekend, but not a major injury.
3:59Hamstrings for wide receivers make you a little bit nervous here.
4:02The reason why we wanted to address this is I suppose there are players you could be making a decision upon tonight
4:08going into Thursday night in football for Nico Collins, but more importantly is do we see anybody not named Nico Collins, and
4:14of course Jaden Higgins, that would be worth adding off of waivers right now that could potentially impact a league as deep,
4:20excuse me, as shallow as 10 teams? Yeah, so I don't think we're going to have anyone ranked as a good flex option.
4:26The problem is they're going to rotate, I think, four guys through a wide receiver.
4:30You look at the routes from last week, 33 for Nico, he was first.
4:34Xavier Hutchinson, 28. Kayshawn Booty, 23. Jalen Knoll, 12.
4:36Jared Wayne, who will be mixed in as well.
4:39Maybe a good Raheem Sanders pick there on the totem pole.
4:41Although Xavier Hutchinson's still under 1% as well. He was at six.
4:45So I think all four guys will be involved in this one.
4:48If I had to choose, I'd probably pick the explosive playmaker, Kayshawn Booty.
4:51You know, maybe hit for a long play. But otherwise, I'm probably going to avoid.
4:55But the good news is they have respectable depth here.
4:58So they can hold down the forward for a week.
5:01All right, so the Texans play the Bengals. There's also some news on the Bengals side, Daniel, which involves the quarterback, Joe Burrow.
5:07Yeah, dealing with some back soreness, unfortunately. Trying to carry the Bengals in week one and it hurt him here in this one.
5:13Actually, their defense did. We're going to keep an eye on that one, obviously, to see what's going to happen here.
5:19He expects to play Sunday at Houston. But I'll tell you what, we already had him way down our rankings to begin with because of this matchup.
5:26If I feel like he's banged up going into it, I'm probably just going to remove Joe Burrow altogether.
5:31Maybe not from my rankings. He'd probably be like a low 20s guy.
5:34Yeah. But I'd say for now, like if you have Joe Burrow as your normal starter and you haven't already added a backup quarterback.
5:41You need to. Yes. Because of the matchup, which I know Josh Allen did not make it look like a tough matchup,
5:47but we still believe it's a very tough matchup for Joe Burrow.
5:50So, and this health status, let's make a plan here.
5:53Whether it's a Bryce Young off of waivers, maybe a Daniel Jones, maybe, you know, whoever, you know, Jared Goff playing tonight.
5:58Like these are some names to consider if you have Joe Burrow as not just your starter, but your only quarterback on the roster.
6:05On top of that, if Joe is out, we'll talk more tomorrow, which he won't be, but he expects to play.
6:10We'll talk just in general more tomorrow about these wide receivers and what their forecast is for the upcoming weekend.
6:16Yeah. Agreed. Joe Flacco, you know, as far as backups go.
6:19Joe Flacco! Yeah. Not worried about, more worried about Nico, but we'll keep an eye on this one.
6:24Congratulations on being O for one in properly pronouncing Joe Flacco's last name.
6:27Would you rather have Baker Mayfield right now in week two or Joe Burrow?
6:31Yeah. Again, we already had Burrow as a sit.
6:33So this kind of makes it an easier sit.
6:36Adam is 18 to my quarterback ranks. Yeah. Makes it an easier sit than it already was.
6:40Okay. Got it. All right. Let's talk about Thursday night football, my friends.
6:44Bills and Lions. Lions. This is going to be a really fun one here.
6:47Lineup blocks in this one include basically everybody. Holy smokes.
6:50That's a full page. Josh Allen, Jameer Gibbs, James Cook, Amon Ross St.
6:54Brown, DJ Moore, Jamison Williams, Sam Laporta. All of them are lineup blocks on this one.
6:58That is a good looking fantasy team right there.
7:00That's a whole team right there. Seriously, that really is.
7:03That is a squad in and of itself. So who are we really making conversations about in this one?
7:08I guess we're probably looking at Dalton Kincaid with what he did in week one.
7:12Mike, how you feeling? What do you have his projection after?
7:15Because we've seen Dalton Kincaid do this before. We've seen the pockets of the big games.
7:19I think he's startable for sure. He's a borderline tight end one at this point.
7:23I know you talked about this a little bit yesterday, but an impressive week one, 130 yards on six targets.
7:29We've seen that before from him. Last year, he had 14 plus fantasy points six times, but he had a ton of duds as well.
7:35He's just been all over the map. The reason?
7:38Playing time. But here's a few numbers for you.
7:40He played 77% of the offensive snaps last year.
7:42He was at 39%. He was on the field for 71% of their pass plays.
7:46Actually, his route participation was 71%. So we're not even counting plays where he pass blocked.
7:51That's up from 47% last season. Both of those numbers in the 70s were his highest since midway through 2024.
7:56It's been a long time. So that was a big change for Dalton Kincaid last week.
8:00That gives me a lot of hope that he can jump into the mid-range tight end one conversation.
8:05And how'd the Lions do against the Saints tight ends last week, Daniel?
8:09Okay, Michael. Not good. 7 for 87 and two touchdowns.
8:11Noah Fant got in on the action as well.
8:14Yes, he did. So a good spot here for Kincaid.
8:16If I scooped him up off waivers or I drafted him, I would certainly consider strongly streaming him this week.
8:22All right. So that's like the micro story, right?
8:24It's like we need Dalton Kincaid to live up to what he showed in week one.
8:28Let's talk more macro right now, guys. Let's talk about the important thing here tonight.
8:32Is that we are, how many hours? Less than, just about 10 hours away from kickoff right now.
8:37And what we are, I think, is on paper the fantasy friendliest game in this incredibly early season.
8:42Agreed. We're, what, 16 games into the NFL year.
8:44Yep. We need you guys to live up to the hype.
8:47All right. I need Josh Allen, 30 burger tonight.
8:50I need Jerry Goff, four touchdown passes. Jameer Gibbs, just do what you do normally and you'll be just fine.
8:55Jame-O, no egg this week. There's no bagel. All right.
8:58We need a big day here from Jamison Williams.
9:00We need Sam Laporta to find the end zone tonight.
9:03I need 70 points scored in real life between these two teams tonight.
9:06That is what tonight's game is all about. I feel like what you need is what happened last time.
9:11I think we even have a full screen of what it looked like the last time these two teams played.
9:17It was 48 to 42, guys. Okay. So give me this.
9:20I asked for 70. Give me 90. Jared Goff, 494 and five touchdowns.
9:23Amon Ross, St. Brown, 14 catches for 193 yards and a touchdown.
9:26Laporta, seven for 111. Not too much to ask, Sammy.
9:29Jame-O had three for 37 and a touchdown. Josh Allen, 363, two passing touchdowns plus 68 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns.
9:35All right. So doing some quick math there. That's 6.8.
9:38That's 8.8. He had over 40 points on that one.
9:40Both him and Goff had over 40 points. No big deal.
9:43James Cook had 105 yards and two rushing touchdowns in this one.
9:46Oh, Ty Johnson, five catches for 114 yards. Don't remind me.
9:49All right. So we need this. This is exactly what we are hoping for is the last time they played is this game right here.
9:56Field only won 70, though. He hates offense. That's weird.
9:59I want 70 in the first half is what I want.
10:02There we go. That's what I'm asking for. I'm not trying to be greedy here.
10:06I just want, we need a fantasy bonanza, right?
10:08Dalton Kade, I agree. Like, I'm glad Mike brought up.
10:11It's the only conversation. But everything else, just give me points.
10:14All right. Which means we're trending towards a 13 to 10 grinded out victory.
10:17Where Tyler Bass somehow kicks four field goals and an extra point.
10:21So much energy here now. I'm like, do I start Kade or Tyler Warren?
10:24Like, now I just want to start. Now I want more pieces of this game.
10:28There's so much hype around it. All right. I want it all.
10:32Guys, in the new stadium. First game in this new stadium for the Buffalo Bills.
10:36Who are you taking to win this one? I am taking the Buffalo Bills at home.
10:40Sorry, Daniel. Sorry, Daniel. Yeah. I'm going Bills by two.
10:43I think that's what you guys have to do.
10:45I think that's the appropriate pick. Yeah. That's weird.
10:47Do you pick the Lions? Wow. I'm shocked by this.
10:50I am, in fact, taking the Detroit Lions to win.
10:53Listen, someone's got to be the bad guy. Like, if you don't ride for your team, what is the point of being a fan?
10:59Exactly. Absolutely. They could be 0-9. I would still pick Detroit.
11:02Absolutely. 100%. I think these are maybe two top five teams in the NFL, too.
11:06So certainly once the Lions' defense gets healthier, you know, these are two powerhouse teams.
11:10All right. Let's dive into our Week 2 preview part one here.
11:13We've got a bunch of games to dive into, my friends.
11:16We're going to start with the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Denver Broncos.
11:20Let's do it. Yeah. That's a fun one. How many lineup locks do we have in this one?
11:24Jalen Waddle. Jalen Waddle is still a lineup lock after what happened in Week 1.
11:28He's, he, he... Let's just talk about this. It's kind of good.
11:32I missed the show on Tuesday, and you guys gave some of this energy.
11:35So let me just reiterate it. Actually, you read the full lineup locks, and I'll talk about Jalen Waddle.
11:40Jalen Waddle, wide receiver 23. Courtland Sutton, wide receiver 31.
11:43And Parker Washington, obviously on the other side. Definitely a lineup lock at wide receiver 27 for our consensus rankings.
11:48Field, go ahead and take the stage. All right, so one game is not enough for us to feel like the Broncos
11:54have, like, illegitimate plans for Jalen Waddle within their offense.
11:57Because they are going to get him going because they traded the first-round pick for him.
12:01Like, it needs to happen. And if for some reason it doesn't, then I will readjust my stance and be like, this
12:07was an absolutely ridiculous move to make for a roster that was so good that the value you were getting in a
12:13first-round pick to address one of your other minor needs.
12:16Because I wouldn't say the wide receiver was, like, this absolutely game-changing need for Denver.
12:20A wide receiver, one, who could stretch the field if you actually threw the ball down the field would be useful.
12:25But Bo Nix, uh-uh, no more. Can't be playing like the Bo Nix we saw too often last year.
12:30Like, Monday night was forgettable of the highest order.
12:33There were a couple of year three quarterbacks that really did not.
12:36You know, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, Bo Nix. More questions and answers after week one for those three guys.
12:41Caleb Williams, you're good. We need it, though. Jalen Waddell is going to be a factor for this Denver Broncos offense.
12:47It starts on Sunday. It isn't... I think this Jaguars defense is pretty legit, but that Chiefs defense just had so many
12:53more answers schematically than I think most defenses will present for the Broncos.
12:56I think Jalen Waddell gets on track. Yeah, I'm weirdly not worried about this.
13:00Unless you really think that Davis Webb can't call a game and is just going to blow up.
13:05But if that keeps happening, they'll go back to Sean Payton.
13:07So I'm just not worried. I mean, think about last year.
13:10I mean, Corlin's son the last two years has been terrific with Bo Nix.
13:14Also, your guy Troy Franklin was pretty relevant for a big chunk of last season.
13:18I mean, I'm just not really sweating this one at all.
13:21I haven't really moved the needle on Waddell. They're going to get him involved, to your point.
13:26Bo Nix is good enough to get him the ball.
13:28It was a really tough matchup. It was in Kansas City against a division rival.
13:32That game was a disaster. They're going to get back on track soon and perhaps this week at home.
13:37Maybe you guys have never met anyone that's played fantasy football before.
13:41But sometimes week one overreactions cause you to think about things that you would normally not do.
13:45And three targets, one catch for two yards from Jalen Waddell.
13:48There's a bad drop there, too. Would at least feel like emotionally like, did I just get this wrong?
13:53Did we all overthink this? I'm not disagreeing with you guys.
13:56I'm just saying that I think that's a bigger question than you're letting on.
14:00Because people are like... So rude on the screen right now.
14:03That's so mean. By the way, two things. First of all, this isn't like Marvin Harrison Jr.
14:07coming into the NFL. We've seen Waddell play for a long time.
14:11He's a very good player. He's very good. We know that for sure.
14:14And the other part is something I'm forgetting now.
14:16I'll tell you what you're forgetting. I'll just take it from you, Mike.
14:20Have you guys seen this tweet? I got to be honest with you.
14:23The joke is made like once a week on fantasy Twitter and it still makes me laugh.
14:28Or someone will start with like a leading headline like, Marvin Harrison Jr.
14:31is a baller. Here are the only wide receivers I'm starting over him in week two.
14:36And because Twitter now allows you to use as many characters as you want, it goes through like 50 receivers.
14:41And then the bottom... I saw this on Twitter.
14:43I forget who it was. And it was like the last one was Xavier Worthy or something.
14:48Or Khalil Shakir. And it was like, that's it.
14:5051 guys. That's funny. And that's it. That's so good.
14:53All right. Yeah. But Jalen Waddell, the Broncos have to get it going with Jalen Waddell.
14:57I hope that this is one of those funky week one things that we look back on.
15:02Me too. Can you believe the Broncos got gobsmacked by the Chiefs?
15:0531-10 on Monday Night Football in week one. One note from the Broncos that we can talk about more further if we need to tomorrow.
15:12RJ Harvey was a non-participant in an estimated practice report on Wednesday.
15:15So we have our antenna up a little bit more about one of the Broncos running backs.
15:20How does... Just last thing and then we'll talk about Jaguars.
15:22How does Clay Eye take into effect that Sean Payton's wife drafted Jalen Waddell?
15:26How about that? He needs to get involved in week two.
15:29Otherwise, Sean Payton's sleeping on the couch. Slightly higher target share projection.
15:32Because of that, it does bump it up just a little bit.
15:36Or call an extra player too. Okay. Or I'll tell Davis.
15:39Can you believe that though? That's pretty cool actually.
15:41I mean, it's great. It's awesome. But it's like you tell your wife to draft this guy and he has one catch for two yards.
15:48That's not good. That's not good. By the way, speaking of looking back and being like, oh, do you remember when that happened?
15:54First of all, like remember last year? Dustin Fields went off as a passer.
15:58Oh, that too. But also the Patriots lost to the Raiders.
16:00That is accurate. But I tweeted right after the Chargers lost to Arizona.
16:04I was like, the Chargers are definitely going to the Super Bowl now, right?
16:08Like they're definitely going to. So we can look back at that and be like, remember when they lost to the Cardinals on week one?
16:14You should stick it into existence. At the Super Bowl if the Chargers make it to them.
16:19I agree. The Chargers Rams. I mean, there you go.
16:22In the LA Stadium. Tough commute. Yeah. Mike, what's going on with the Jaguars running back?
16:26Do you see enough in week one either way to have one of them projected as a startable option here?
16:31Yeah. So I actually looked. Remember we talked about this Monday a little bit and we were like, we saw a lot
16:37of Chris Rodriguez early and it seemed like maybe he was the lead back.
16:41But I looked at actually like play by play through and that was actually not the case.
16:45But you saw Toon was plenty involved. He was on the field a lot.
16:49So it was more even early on and then Toon kind of took control in the second half.
16:54So I don't think it was an element of kind of protecting lead back Chris Rodriguez.
16:58I think Toon is their lead back. But they did use four running backs.
17:02You know? Yeah. LaQuint Allen and Demir. Yeah. They combined for six snaps.
17:05But it's clear they're going to use those guys in some sort of capacity.
17:09They're going to get a series here or there in obvious passing situations.
17:13But they did. Yeah. Six snaps for them. Toon played 27.
17:1627. 23 for Rodriguez. But again, Toon had a nice edge in carries.
17:1915 to 6. And it was pretty even in routes.
17:22I would like to see more Toon routes. It was 9 for him.
17:2510 for Rodriguez. They combined for one target. That has to increase for Toon if he's going to be a serviceable RB2.
17:31Toon did play well. He had 88 yards on 16 touches in this game.
17:35And now goes up against the Denver Broncos. Yes, they were crushed by Ken Walker.
17:39I get it. But, you know, remember early last season, the Broncos were crushed by O'Marion Hampton and Jonathan Taylor.
17:44They had two awful games against them. Yeah. They allowed the fewest fantasy points to running backs last season, even with those games included.
17:51So, this is still a very tough defense. They're going on the road here.
17:54I'm a little low on Toon this week. I'm at RB31.
17:57So, I think he's not the greatest flex option.
18:00But there was enough there in week one that there's hope that he can get into that conversation in neutral matchups moving forward.
18:06Ideally, you don't have to play either of these running backs.
18:09Let's reflect that. You just have better options available to you.
18:12Yeah, right now. Yeah, yeah. And Chris Rodriguez, I mean, he only had six touches in that game.
18:17It wasn't much. You know, he's still going to be there.
18:19That game a little bit of a throwaway for the Jaguars backfield, though.
18:23Maybe. Maybe. Because they just... A little bit. Maybe.
18:25But, again, you might think that they would lean more on Rodriguez in a situation like that.
18:30So, I don't know when they're ahead. Like, that seems like what he was there for.
18:34So, I don't know. Maybe they're also telling us Tootin's the guy.
18:37But, for now, tough matchup. I'm going to avoid this one.
18:40I'm picking the Broncos. I'm picking the Broncos. Ah, I'm picking the Jaguars.
18:44Sorry about that. That was good. Okay, okay. I'm also taking the Jaguars in this one.
18:48Would you have picked... If this game was week one, would you have picked the Jags, do you think?
18:53I would have picked the Broncos, probably. Yeah. So, you're kind of moving the needle a little bit.
18:58A little bit, yeah. Okay, that's fair. I mean, I can totally see the Jaguars.
19:02Must win for the Broncos? Who do they play in week three?
19:05Can't start 0-2. I don't know. Who is it?
19:08Rams. Sunday night football. Oh, we've got to have it.
19:100-3 is... Rams might have a must win themselves on Monday night against the G-Men.
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20:31Steelers Patriots. That's a fun one. A lot of line of locks in this one.
20:36Ramondre Stevenson and us. The Fantasy Focus Countdown Show.
20:38That's right. A reminder or a note, perhaps, that Travion Henderson is now back practicing in full for the Patriots.
20:43So, Ramondre, if there was no Travion, might be ranked a few spots higher than RB20.
20:48We'll see how much Travion's role impacts, or his presence impacts Ramondre's role.
20:51Those are two big, long names to pronounce. They are.
20:54Ramondre Stevenson and Travion Henderson. The third guy is Corey Kinnear.
20:57It's different. That's different. Onix, Corey Kinnear. Corey Kinnear.
20:59Big story here, obviously, and everyone knows this. AJ Brown going to miss a number of weeks.
21:04Placed on IR. We don't have Drake May listed as a lineup lock for this one.
21:08And when we're calling him not a lineup lock, we just call him Drake May, not Drake Drake May.
21:13Exactly. Drake Drake May. He'll be two this week.
21:15Without AJ Brown in this offense, Mike, how do you have the receiving core kind of breaking out with your projection?
21:21This is, I mean, look, if you had to...
21:23Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, you wanted the receivers. Yeah, I have Pat Fryer moved here.
21:27So, I just wanted to pass along some numbers from last week.
21:31Let's note a couple things. I'll give you the data in a moment, but let's note that how a team handles an
21:36injury within a game does not always forecast how they'll handle an injury when they've known about it for a full 10
21:42days like the Patriots will have by Sunday with the AJ Brown injury.
21:46I'm also going to alert that it's supposed to be nasty weather here on Sunday in New England.
21:51We'll see whether that rain hits Gillette Stadium. More to come on Fantasy Focus Countdown.
21:55But in those, there were 20 passing dropbacks after AJ Brown got hurt.
21:58He got hurt about a minute and a half into the third quarter.
22:02They had 20 subsequent dropbacks. Of those 20, Mack Hollins and Romeo Dobbs were on the field for all 20 dropbacks.
22:07Ramondre Stevenson, I'm sorry, DeMario Douglas, Pop Douglas was on the field for 19 of them.
22:11So lots of three receiver sets. Ramondre Stevenson, 18 routes run.
22:14Hunter Henry ran 14 routes of those 20 dropbacks.
22:17And then Len Larrison had one route good enough for one target as well.
22:21So I think that when the Patriots line up in three wide receiver sets this upcoming weekend, it's going to be Mack
22:26Hollins, Romeo Dobbs, and Pop Douglas on the field a ton.
22:29Listen, Romeo Dobbs, I know that his stock is about as low as it could be after week one for a guy that signed a massive contract.
22:37This is the opportunity to make good on it, right?
22:39It just is. Like, Romeo Dobbs got a lot of money this offseason from the Patriots before AJ Brown was traded there
22:45because they felt like they got an upgrade on Stephon Diggs.
22:48If Stephon Diggs was still there with the Patriots right now and AJ Brown was out, we'd be saying, is this guy
22:54a top 15 wide receiver in fantasy for week two?
22:57So this is Romeo Dobbs' time to shine. He better shine or else that contract could start to age poorly in a hurry.
23:03But as of right now, I rank the Patriots wide receivers as Romeo Dobbs in my flex spot.
23:08Mack Hollins and Demario Douglas would only be deeper league considerations.
23:11I would agree with that. I hope they... You know what?
23:13Go ahead. Save my thought for later. Oh, my God.
23:16I want to see one more wide receiver involved.
23:19I want to save that for the end of the show.
23:22What do you want to say on Pat Friermuth?
23:24Big dutch, dutch. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Pat Friermuth. Yeah, I felt good about his usage last week.
23:28I think that this is a guy who, after his first year, we thought might be a regular mid-to-back-end tight end one for a long time.
23:35It obviously did not work great in the Arthur Smith offense, but maybe he's back in that conversation now.
23:40Remember, Jonu Smith was there last year. He's not there anymore.
23:43Five for 46 and a touchdown last week on five targets.
23:46It was his best fantasy game since he had 28.1 points in week seven last season.
23:51That was his only game with 12 points last year, the whole season.
23:54But the difference, very much like Dalton Kincaid, is playing time.
23:57Last year, his route participation was 54%. This year, in week one, 72%.
24:01Big change. That's a big number for a tight end.
24:03That means you're not just out there, again, blocking.
24:06You're running routes. So, big change for Friermuth. Gives me some inspiration.
24:09You can get back into that, at least the streaming conversation.
24:12There's a lot of names in that area, but feeling pretty good about that.
24:16You're seeing a slightly different route number on this screen.
24:18Some people categorize them a little differently, but I'm at 72%.
24:21Screen says 81%. I like our numbers better. Wondering if you guys are buying into narrative street at all here for Pat Friermuth.
24:27Not really. You're not familiar with the narrative. I'm not.
24:30Yeah. Mike, you're basically a Massachusetts guy. Now you need to know these things.
24:34Pat Friermuth played his high school football at the Brooks School in North Andover, Massachusetts.
24:38Okay. He is considered by almost everybody. The second best athlete from the Brooks School in Massachusetts, obviously behind Chapin Duke.
24:43Yes. Got it. Thank you. My wife. Everyone knows that.
24:46Everyone knows that. I'll remember it now. Now I know.
24:49Narrative street in play here. The Patriots are winning this game, by the way.
24:52Yes. The Patriots are winning this game. Yeah. I have the Patriots as well.
24:56This is second time I've said this. Must win.
24:59Whoa. The producers go with the Steelers? Christina's a Steelers fan.
25:01Oh, that's right. She's doing the right thing. Biased.
25:04Yeah. Okay. She says Steelers. It's a must win for the Patriots.
25:07Jaguars and Bills on the road after this. Yes.
25:10Oh, boy. All right. Let's talk about this next one.
25:12Browns and Bucks. This one's not very fun, to be honest.
25:15There's really only one conversation really to talk about with this game.
25:18Are you going to take a phone call? We're going to throw it up there.
25:22Yeah. My wife, Rosie, is texting me right now.
25:25You're not interested in this game. She has strong thoughts on Pat Friermuth.
25:28No big deal. Browns and Buccaneers. Lineup locks. You got a lot of them.
25:32And by a lot, we mean two. Yeah. Bucky Irving and Emeka Abuka.
25:35I don't see anyone from the Browns up there.
25:38Can you argue with that? You know what? Until Deshaun Watson stops being the quarterback, are we going to have a lineup lock from the Browns?
25:45Can you imagine if they had a good quarterback like Baker Mayfield or something?
25:49Oh, wait. He's on the other team in this game.
25:51Ken Zampisi had some thoughts on that. I think it's actually news that we drafted Harold Fannin as tight end five or
25:57six, and we legitimately don't want to play him in week two.
26:00I know he will. He will get there, but he'll be okay.
26:03Yeah. But right now, sorry. I did not mean to have that.
26:07It's okay. Yeah. For the Browns, this feels like one where the upside is low enough across the board, absent garbage time,
26:13but you can just stay away until further notice, which might be week three when they return home and perhaps they have a new starting quarterback.
26:20The question, if there is really a question here, is is Bucky Irving just ready to smash once again?
26:25Let's talk through some of the numbers here on Bucky in week one, the things that we liked.
26:29Average, excuse me, he scored 20.3 fantasy points, which is a lot of points, and he was still only RB12 for the week.
26:36Good week for running backs in week one. Good week for NFL offenses.
26:39Yes, it was. But importantly for Bucky Irving, and we did not expect this to be the case, is that Bucky Irving
26:45had seven targets on just 21 routes in week one.
26:48So he had a target on a third of his routes.
26:51His seven catches ties his previous career high. It was the second most catches for any running back in all of week one.
26:57I think maybe... Yes. Someone had eight. Oh, it was...
26:59Was it H-N? No. No, Travis H-N. He had eight targets, didn't he?
27:03Or eight, nine targets? Might have been H-N. But bottom line is it was excellent on the receiving front there for Bucky Irving.
27:09He had 93 total scrimmage yards. And, of course, with Bucky Irving playing a lot as a receiver, it meant very little
27:15for Kenneth Gamewell, who had one target on 13 routes.
27:18So 61.5% snap share for Bucky Irving is a good number, not some dominant number, but he was very efficient and very involved in those snaps.
27:24Travis H-N did have seven catches. Seven out of nine.
27:27Yeah, he had nine because that game went to overtime against your Lions, as you know.
27:31He was very busy. You're both going to kick yourself.
27:34Did Jameer Gibbs have eight catches for 30 yards?
27:37John Robinson. Oh, yes. He was the only thing that worked in that Falcons offense.
27:41He had eight for 90 in a touchdown. We'll talk about them in a moment.
27:45Wait, so what was he? So Irving was third?
27:47I thought he said he was second. He was tied for second.
27:50Tied for second. Got it, got it, got it, got it.
27:53Okay. Yeah, man. All right. Which one are you taking in this one?
27:57Oh, come on. Here's the limb. I'm going out on it.
28:00Buccaneers. I am going with the Buccaneers, too. Me, the Buccaneers.
28:02All right, across the board, everyone's going with the Buccaneers on this one.
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28:46Void where prohibited. All right, we're going to take a little bit of time in the mailbag here, but first a quick
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29:12Moody. Let's take a couple questions from our chat now here.
29:15This one comes from Tyler. Tyler wants to know, what do we do with A.J.
29:19Brown? What scenario do we hold? What scenario do we trade?
29:22I think the only way that you trade is like, it's going to be four games we know for sure, right?
29:27It could be more than that. Some believe it might be six is what I heard.
29:32Yeah. I would trade you David Montgomery for A.J.
29:34Brown. Don't get me started there. I consider that.
29:37So if you won your week one matchup, it obviously makes you lean a little more towards hold.
29:41This is like a little bit of a nuanced question, right?
29:44So hold to me comes under these circumstances. Independent of your week one results, if you like your roster as it stands
29:50going into week two, generally going to hold, unless someone makes you an offer that you're like, why on earth would this person do this?
29:57Yeah. Right? Like, I'm just going to throw a name out there.
30:00Not that this guy was great in week one.
30:02But if somebody offered you T. Higgins or Lad McConkie right now, those are guys that are being drafted somewhere between like
30:08wide receiver 13 and 16 range coming into the season.
30:11Would either of you take T. Higgins or Lad McConkie for A.J.
30:14Brown right now? Yeah, I would take Lad. Okay.
30:17So can I give you a real hypothetical trade offer that I got?
30:20You got one. Okay. So I have Jonathan Taylor.
30:23Is it a hypothetical if it's a real trade offer?
30:25Oh, yeah. Yes, it is. Good point. No, this is a real hypothetical.
30:29Yeah, well, it was in the past and has been since I already made a decision on it.
30:33I have Jonathan Taylor. Yep. The person at A.J.
30:36Brown offered me A.J. Brown. And you're ready for this.
30:39O'Marion Hampton. For your Jonathan Taylor. Yes. I'm assuming you said no?
30:42I said no. Yeah. But that's a good one, though.
30:44Yeah. I mean, I won Taylor the next six weeks over Hampton.
30:48It might work out where, I don't know, Taylor only outscores Hampton by, let's just say 50 points and A.J.
30:53Brown comes back and is a wide receiver one.
30:55And maybe it would have worked out, but I'm just not going to mess with that right now.
31:00That's a healthy offer, though. O'Marion Hampton and A.J.
31:03Brown for... It was a good offer. Yes. I thought about it.
31:06I think after week one, generally speaking, the only time in which you're making a trade in this scenario is if it's
31:12like, it's so obvious that it would require some lunacy to say no.
31:15Sure. Yeah. Right. But there's so little data. There's so little data.
31:18And also, when it comes to a player like Taylor or Gibbs or Robbins, like those guys are first round, cemented elite players.
31:25It's so hard to move on from that. It goes to your point you make often, right?
31:29Which is it's not just that you are... It's Jonathan Taylor plus whoever you have as your next depth wide receiver.
31:35Exactly right. You're not taking a zero for Brown, right?
31:37Right. So if you draft it, I'm just making this up, Debo Samuel, but you trade for A.J.
31:42Brown, well, Debo gets relegated to the bench. Like, Jonathan Taylor plus Debo Samuel for A.J.
31:46Brown and O'Marion Hampton might sound like the Jonathan Taylor side is a clear winner.
31:50We'll see, but it sounds like it in some ways.
31:53Also, this is why you need to have an IR spot because a lot of times I'll throw someone on my IR
31:59right after the draft or just to utilize it as an extra roster spot.
32:03A.J. Brown is the kind of player that's meant for IR.
32:06You can sit him there, hold on if you need to.
32:09And then, so just to play into that, DeSean Stribbling, an example of a guy you could cut loose.
32:14You could cut loose because of it. He's not going to be out.
32:17We mentioned that, but probably closer to 10 weeks now.
32:20So not a guy you can keep stashed. You don't have to worry about that one anymore.
32:24All right. Let's take another question here from chat.
32:27This next one comes from... Salaam wants to know, should I start Jared Goff tonight?
32:31I have Joe Burrow. Independent of what happens with Joe Burrow.
32:34And again, all signs continue to point towards him playing on Sunday.
32:37Independent of that, I have Jared Goff ranked higher than Joe Burrow.
32:40Yep. Agreed. I'm with you on that. All right.
32:43Next one comes from Mano wants to know, we think Golden or Waddle as the wide receiver to this week.
32:48Matthew Golden saw 12 targets. A lot of it in garbage time.
32:51Yeah. But still a healthy target share, guys. Like the talent I saw on display there.
32:55I like Jalen Waddle. Waddle for sure. Yeah. Not there yet on Golden.
32:59By the way, I saw, I believe I saw one of our question askers from yesterday, and I think I screwed it up.
33:05Realtor Andrick, I think it's Andrick. Like the name is Andrick.
33:08And I thought, you know, it was Realtor Andrick.
33:10Maybe it is. I think it's Andrick. So Andrick, if you're out there watching right now, I just wanted to say shout out to you.
33:17Thanks for your loyalty for checking in. I know.
33:19I know. He realized in the middle of the night, he was like, oh.
33:23Here's the deal. Oh, man. Andrick, let me just say this.
33:26I care about you. I care about the people.
33:29I care about the chat. I care about our community.
33:31Of course. Mike cares about projections. Yeah. So you decide what's more valuable in your life.
33:36He's going to be like. But I care about you.
33:38The person is going to be like, no, it is Andrick.
33:41I'm a realtor and I'm married to someone named Rick.
33:44Realtor and Rick. And that's what it was. So you spent all that time for nothing.
33:48Nope. Mike wants to move on. Field wants to do one more question.
33:52And because Field's the man of the people, we're going to do one more question.
33:56Super Yoni wants to know, would you start Ted Rowe McMillan, Devontae Adams, or Debo Samuel?
34:00Ooh. I like Debo after what I saw last week, but not going there.
34:04I have it ranked as their list on the screen.
34:06Ted McMillan, Devontae Adams, and then Debo. Me too.
34:09I have Adams one spot ahead of McMillan. It's a close call.
34:12I think playing the Giants versus going into Atlanta for Carolina, I think they come back to earth based on Bryce Young's track record.
34:18I'm leaning Adams, but close call. You got to go either way.
34:21For Silver Foxes, though. So that checks out. Have you guys seen, how long until we start to have the Jalen Coker versus Ted McMillan conversation?
34:28It's already starting to boil. After this week. Really?
34:31I think so. I think, yeah. Well, let's see how the usage looks this week.
34:35I think then it becomes, because this has gone back to last year.
34:38The last two weeks of last season, Coker was over 16 fantasy points.
34:42So I think McMillan's the better player, I want to say.
34:45The better raw talent. But it doesn't always work that way.
34:48I don't know. But I still lean McMillan. But we'll start having a conversation soon.
34:52I think it starts to be a conversation this week.
34:54Coker's just got to keep up that target share.
34:57And I think we could have a Bryce Young conversation, too, if he plays well.
35:01He's had Atlanta's number recently. But he also has this history of having a big game and then just going way down the two.
35:07We talked about this on the waiver show on Tuesday.
35:10So we'll see. He has to show it consistently.
35:12Guys, let's just talk about... Can I test Mike one more time?
35:15Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Jalen Coker from West Charleston University Tech.
35:18Okay, so he started his career there. Oh, okay.
35:21Okay. Holy Cross. Holy Cross. Come on! When I'm testing you, it's going to be Massachusetts-related.
35:25All Massachusetts. I'm not there yet. I knew that.
35:28I'm still a rookie in the Massachusetts area. So I'm going to take a while.
35:32Have enough lobster rolls and you won't be. All right.
35:34Let's dive into a little bit more about this Falcons-Panthers games, my friend.
35:38We were already a little bit in on these Panthers-wide receivers.
35:41Here are the lineup locks we have in this one.
35:43Bajon Robinson obviously had eight catches in week one.
35:46Drake London still a lineup lock, even though emotionally it feels not fun to throw him out there.
35:51And Tedaroa McMillan. Let's ask this question right off the bat.
35:53Field, if Cooper Rush is the quarterback, do I still have to start Drake London?
35:57Not totally sold on that myself. I know Mike might feel differently, but I am not there yet.
36:02I'm going to sort of process that over the next couple of days.
36:06Yep. I mean, their head coach, Kevin Stefanski, wouldn't even rule out Jack Strand, the fourth-string QB.
36:10Sounds like probably no Michael Penix Jr. yet this week.
36:13And Tua sounds probably not as well. Is it Sternad?
36:16It's Strand. I don't know. I can't read. Strand.
36:18Jack Sternad. I thought it was Strand, but that's what I have it as.
36:22Strand, yes. There is a Sternad. There's like a linebacker Sternad.
36:25Justin Sternad from the Denver Broncos. There's also a good Sternad.
36:28I actually don't know on Justin. Oh. Got him.
36:30Got him. Got him. Got him. There's one on the board.
36:33Colorado. One career member. I love that. Random name on there.
36:36Thank you. All right. Well executed. Do you guys want the good news or the bad news on the Falcons offense from week one with Cooper Rush?
36:43Give me the bad news first. Let's start there.
36:46The Falcons did not settle for a field goal or a turnover or a turnover on downs on any of their trips to the red zone last week.
36:53That sounds like a good news. That's a good news.
36:56Oh, okay. Oh, so you just ignored us? Oh, yes.
36:58I never listened to you. That's the good news.
37:01What? Where was the bad part? All right. Here's the bad news.
37:04Okay. Oh, okay. They were the only team in the NFL.
37:07So there's... You set us up for that. The NFL.
37:10I did. Remember back in the day, the 20-yard line at different stadiums used to be like highlighted.
37:14They would do like a double thick line. They would dress it up a little bit.
37:19That seems to have gone by the wayside. But it used to be very obvious where the red zone was.
37:24Yep. The Falcons ignored it. They never got there.
37:26The Falcons did not read the friggin' red zone last year, last week against the Steelers.
37:31The only offense they had was B. John Robinson being Superman.
37:34He did run through the red zone. Yes. Yes.
37:36That was bad. Yes. That was the only time.
37:39All right? So that's how bad the offense as a whole was.
37:42Yeah. This is amazing, though. Last week, 31 teams had their wide receivers and tight ends combined for at least 10 receptions,
37:48which is not that significant of a number to reach.
37:50It seems like there's one team not on that one.
37:53There will be one team. 32 teams minus 30.
37:55That's what leaves one team. 10 plus receptions for the wide receivers and tight ends.
37:59The Falcons. Every single wide receiver and tight end.
38:02In week one combined for four catches. That's disgusting.
38:04Four. That's bad. Four. Not even 10. They couldn't even get to 10.
38:08Every other team did. We've been dunking on the Browns offense all week.
38:11Have you seen how pathetic that offense was? They got to 10.
38:14The Falcons couldn't even get to five. That's brutal.
38:17This offense was completely non-functional in week one. And I know the Steelers are a pretty good defense.
38:22And they're a better defense in Carolina this upcoming weekend.
38:24I know the Panthers just said 59 hung on them.
38:27But this offense is non-functioning right now, given the quarterback state.
38:30So I've got real concerns. You start Jack Strand.
38:32Give us some hope. I at least want to see him.
38:35I mean, he had a good preseason. Like, put him out there.
38:38Sure. Yes. Great. My point is this. We want Jack Strand.
38:41That's right. So I want Jack Strand, too. I don't know.
38:44Whatever. I want Tua. I mean, yeah. Perfect. What I really want is Michael Penix Jr.
38:49But he's not healthy. So I want. I need it.
38:51I need it now, though. But guys, like, it hurt me to have to watch this offense.
38:56So I don't know. I. Can I tell you a situation I'm in?
38:59Please. Yes, I need it. I've got Drake London in a couple of leagues.
39:03Dynasty League included. Dynasty League included. Yeah. And at least this week, I'm going to trust it one more time.
39:08Drake London is too talented. I think they've got.
39:11I have to give him an opportunity to right the ship.
39:14I can't, like, bail after the first bat. I'm going to buy in.
39:17Lowering my expectations. I don't know what that means.
39:20There's no actionable to that. But it's just like, I'm not expecting Drake London to be what I drafted him to be.
39:25But I'm not going to bench him yet. After this game, if we don't have a quarterback change, then we're just going
39:31to have to have a bigger conversation. Yeah. He's one of those guys where after.
39:35There's a short list of guys like this. Where if they have a game where they only have, like, two or three targets.
39:41Or a complete disaster. And, you know, during the week, they're like, okay, we have to fix that.
39:46Those guys generally come back the next week and just are peppered early on with targets.
39:51Yeah. I would. That would be my expectation. He's at that level.
39:54So nervous. Doesn't feel good about it. I had a thought on Dynasty and Drake London.
39:58We can take in the minute. I think we have something for the chat on Jack Strand.
40:03Chat? Let's bring it up. It's Strand. My bad.
40:05Oh, but as a Falcons fan, if it's Rush, I don't blame y'all sitting London or any Falcon not named Bajon.
40:11Rush's performance has to be the worst QB performance in recent history.
40:14From C Santiago 7. Two for his QBR. Guys, it was awful.
40:17At least he saved Bajon, though. We'll give him that.
40:20We'll give him one point. He didn't save Bajon.
40:22Don't you dare say that. Bajon saved Bajon. He has to throw it to him.
40:26He has to throw him to the ball. Bull crap.
40:29He threw the ball like four feet. And Bajon took it 60 yards.
40:32No, Robinson did it all. But at least he got it in his hands.
40:36So, you know, we complain about that sometimes where the guy, you know, you're not getting these fantasy relevant guys the ball at all.
40:42And that's a problem. We're like, come on, just get it in their hands.
40:46He didn't do it for Pitts or London. But at least Robinson.
40:49That's fair. If it wasn't for Scott Mitchell, Barry Sanders probably wouldn't be a good running back.
40:54You're right. Probably not. Probably not. Who are you taking in this one?
40:57Panthers or Falcons? I'm taking the Panthers in this one.
41:00Yeah, me too. I am taking the Panthers. You know what dawned on me from, I think everybody across the board took the Panthers in this one?
41:07Producers as well? Yeah. I believe you are correct.
41:10Yeah. Sure did. Unless I'm, yeah, there we go.
41:12Remember Drake London, you're on your dynasty team. You won the league this past year.
41:16I did. Two years ago in the semifinals, you were playing, I think Matthew.
41:20Yes. Barry. And he had Jared Goff and Amon Ra.
41:23That was like the last game that either one of you had any players.
41:26It was a 425 game. And you were up, I don't know, some ridiculous amount of points going into that game.
41:32And then he came back and got you. Do you know what game that was?
41:36The Lions. Bills. Is that the Bills game? We're not really.
41:39The 48-40. That's how I was thinking about it.
41:41I lost two matchups because of that game. Yeah, there was another where I had also went up against our buddy Kurt in the Michigan Men.
41:48Not in the Michigan Men League, but our buddy.
41:51So you're going to have flashbacks tonight. I have so much scar tissue from that game.
41:55At least you're going to be more positive. We could have faced each other in the finals.
41:59Yeah. I wish that we had field. Trust me.
42:02Honestly, though, you kind of don't because my team in the finals, I had.
42:06You smashed. It was like, it was, if you guys may recall this, but the Ravens played the Texans on Christmas Day, two Christmases ago.
42:12Okay. Yeah. And I have Lamar and Derrick Henry.
42:15I'll never forget. Yeah. I was sitting there watching with my father-in-law and he was like, why is this guy jumping like an absolute maniac every play?
42:22I'm like, because did you see Derrick Henry go off for like 120 yards and a touchdown in the first half?
42:27So that was a good week for the team.
42:30Yeah. Anyways. Hopefully we get a good week from the Jets and Packers here, Mike.
42:34Why don't you and I talk about that one?
42:36Okay. It's going to be interesting. The Jets actually weren't too bad in week one.
42:40Lineup locks for this one. The two guys that we would expect, Brace Hall and Garrett Wilson for the Packers.
42:46I see Christian Watson, Tucker Craft. I don't see any running backs on there, Michael.
42:50No running backs. By the way, the Jets bar is just like, they weren't that bad.
42:54Like that's like a bar for the Jets now.
42:56It's like, yeah, that's true. Honestly. No, that's big progress for them.
43:00That's great. Like they were atrocious again. If Geno Smith can make those two guys fantasy relevant for the entire season, that's
43:05the best thing that we can hope for. That's kind of my point.
43:09I know. Just get the ball to those guys and we're happy.
43:12And at some point, Kenyon City. Mike, I just said that on Drake London, we're not going to bail after one week.
43:18What about the Packers running backs? Are we allowed to bail after one week?
43:22Yes, for now. For now. The distribution was not in Marshawn Lloyd's favor and we needed it to be in his favor to trust him as an RB2.
43:29I think he's still in the flex conversation in this matchup, but look, he was out snap 37 to 30.
43:35He did have an edge of 13 to seven in carries, which was good.
43:38But the routes were, the passing down work leaned toward Chris Brooks.
43:42I actually looked at specifically when they called pass.
43:44Chris Brooks was on the field for 30 of those plays to 16 for Marshawn Lloyd.
43:48Wow. Basically doubled them up. That is not great.
43:51Not good. Also, Marshawn Lloyd didn't, like, whereas Bashaw Tewin, like, played well and you're like, okay, maybe earn more.
43:56Same thing with, like, Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt. Marshawn Lloyd did not in this one.
43:59I know it was a really tough matchup, but 13 carries for 37 yards.
44:03That's 2.8 yards per carry. Chris Brooks went seven for 29.
44:06That's over four yards per carry. So that was even a little better.
44:10I know the scenarios are a little bit different, you know, guys in the box, whatever it might be.
44:15But Lloyd did not earn a larger share of the pie in that game.
44:18And the Jets were good against the opposing running backs last week.
44:22So I'm avoiding this one if I can. Me too.
44:24I'm just looking at the pass catchers. I would be starting Christian Watson if I have him.
44:29I would be starting Tucker Kraft if I had him.
44:31And you could start Golden as a flex. He's not there yet where he's a lineup block, but he's at least now in the company.
44:38Field and I both have him at wide receiver 34.
44:41So in a 12-team league, he would fall in that flex radar based on what he did.
44:45Again, we don't think that 12 targets is going to happen again because so much of it was in garbage time.
44:51But it was nice seeing him at least be utilized.
44:54Yeah, we were talking. We were in like a group text talking about how Watson was doing everything and Golden nothing in the first half.
45:00And then it kind of flipped in the second half and Golden just went off.
45:04But again, they were they had fallen behind when that really started.
45:08Yeah. You know, and he kind of soaked up a ton of volume.
45:11So we're not we're not lineup block territory yet, but good start.
45:14That's really it here. Not a while I was like to talk about this game.
45:18You're taking the Packers or the Jets? Tougher than I thought it was going to be to pick this game coming into
45:24week two, but I'm taking the Packers. Wow. Packers at home here, right?
45:28All of us except for the producers who took the Jets, which is a little bit of a shock.
45:33It is in New York, but I'll leave Packers.
45:35I think that's yeah. Our buddy Quentin Thorne, who helps us out with a bunch of stuff here.
45:40He is a big Packers fan. Surprised the producers did not go with.
45:43Oh, but the other producer, Zach, is a Jets fan.
45:46I understand why we picked the Jets now. A little side bet up in the control room.
45:51I get it. All right. Let's talk Raiders and Chargers Field.
45:54I mentioned this a little bit yesterday and we'll dive in a little bit more, but lineup blocks on this one.
45:59Ashton Gentry. Brock Bowers, if he plays. Still waiting to get a little bit more information.
46:03Yep. We'll continue to monitor that. Obviously, check out Fantasy Focus Countdown Sunday morning, 10 a.m.
46:08Eastern time on ESPN2. We will give you all the latest when inactives come out for the Chargers.
46:13We got Lad McConkie and Omari and Hampton. Field, this is the matchup.
46:16We need the Chargers to get on track. Be the Mike McDaniel offense that we thought we were going to see last week.
46:22How do you feel about starting Chargers this week in Fantasy?
46:25Well, a lot less excited than I did last week.
46:28I'll tell you that much. But Lad McConkie, who we'll see whether he plays, doesn't sound like there's a ton of optimism at the moment.
46:34A big chest injury. If he's ribbed, I think is what they're calling it.
46:38Yes. If he is out, it's not like there's a Chargers wide receiver that I say, okay, Lad out.
46:43You're starting him. Probably Quinton Johnson will be my highest ranked.
46:46But the Chargers converted on third down twice last week.
46:49On the plus side, the Browns didn't do that.
46:51Twice. So they beat the Browns. Part of the issue, though, is they just didn't have the ball at all in this game last week.
46:58They had 22 minutes and 29 seconds of time of possession in Week 1.
47:02Only the Titans had more. So I'm not going to excuse this Week 1 performance.
47:06It was awful. It was pathetic. It was embarrassing.
47:08I felt a sense of guilt watching them because I was so optimistic about this offense.
47:12Mike McDaniel, with much lesser personnel, has made much more out of his offenses.
47:16That was totally not the case in Week 1.
47:19This is it. We talked about this on yesterday's show.
47:21Like, you do it this week, and you build some confidence, and you prove that some of that hype, if not all that hype, was deserved.
47:28Or we are pulling the plug on our Chargers optimism almost right away.
47:32And by the way, this goes to everybody. Like, no one was good.
47:35It's not like, you know, you're a Martin Hampton guy.
47:38Like, you'll probably be feeling comparably disappointed if he once again sort of has a turd game.
47:42You know what it'll make me feel like? It'll make me feel like how Chase Brown started last season.
47:47Yeah, although the schedule is just going to get brutal now for the Chargers.
47:51But I had high expectations, and it took Chase Brown a long time.
47:55That's the thing. And I agree with you. Yesterday, we talked about this.
47:58Like, this is a game. He has to get it going.
48:01The next one, traveling across the country at Buffalo.
48:03Okay, Buffalo's not the defense it used to be.
48:06So you maybe have another game after this, and then the schedule just gets brutal.
48:10So you need to build that confidence now. Yeah, he is going to have to run the ball well, too.
48:15Because, I mean, Keaton Mitchell ran my routes in this game.
48:18It was 10-7. Neither one of them was targeted.
48:21I don't even want you guys to say his name.
48:23It should be a swear word. But again, if he's just going to be Derek Henry, though, and, like, it's all based
48:29on carry volume, and he's only going to get a couple targets.
48:32That's a problem. Like, he's really going to have to run the ball well.
48:36It's a good opportunity at home against a Raiders team they should be better than.
48:40But again, we thought that last week against Arizona, and they were disappointed.
48:44So I'm with you. Huge game for our long-term expectations for the Chargers.
48:47Let's say that Brock Bowers doesn't go in this one.
48:50Michael Mayer slotting in as a low-end, tight-end one like he did in Week 1.
48:54It was fine last week. Similar expectations. I mean, startable.
48:56I mean, how many options were there last week that proved to be startable?
49:00By the way, I said the other day, I said Bryce Young was fine in Week 1, and I'm getting hammered on
49:06social from Panthers fans because he played well. I said fine in Week 1 from a fantasy perspective.
49:11I was talking about his point total of 19.
49:13I was not talking about film watching. He averaged 17 points in the game last year.
49:18He had 19 in this game. That was the point.
49:20He was fine. He wasn't like a spectacular fantasy quarterback.
49:23That's what I meant. Yes, Bryce Young was awesome in Week 1.
49:26We'll see if he can do it. But, again, he has a history of not doing it in back-to-back games.
49:31Can our production team clip that? Yes, please. And then doctor it?
49:35And it says Bryce Young. You don't need to doctor it.
49:38People hear what they want to hear. They've already decided I'm a Bryce Young hater.
49:42Bryce Young was case on booty in Week 1.
49:44Same thing with Mayer. I'm not saying he played poorly.
49:47He's a very good tight end. Could be a tight end one for a lot of teams.
49:51But his fantasy output was fine. It was fine.
49:54It was like nine points. Yep. Who are you taking this one?
49:57Raiders or Chargers? Chargers get it done. Chargers for me as well.
50:00I'm buying into Chargers one more week before I start to fully hit the panic button.
50:04All right. Eagles and Titans. Hey. I know the Eagles.
50:07Are you... Okay. The lineup box tells me everything I need to know.
50:10We got Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts, Devonta Smith. The Titans seem to be the other team outside of the Browns right now with the quarterback situation.
50:17But that one has like a limit of time.
50:20That's fair. It's got to change. I can't imagine starting any Titans right now with confidence.
50:24When's Cam Ward panic time? I mean, you got the guys around you now.
50:28Tate, Wandale, Ridley's your three. You got Gunnar Helm who did a lot of damage last year.
50:32You have Tony Pollard in the back. I mean, you got to get it going.
50:36100%. You got to figure it out. I mean, if he can't...
50:40Yes, yes, yes, yes. He has the guys around him to be at least average.
50:44It won't be easy this week. I'll tell you that much.
50:47Yeah. Eagles defense isn't a great defense to get it going against.
50:50A little bit. But yeah, they got to get going because we can't...
50:53Speaking of quarterbacks just getting the ball in the hands of skill guys, get the ball to these guys.
50:58They can make plays. So let's talk about the Eagles receivers before I dive into something that I think is...
51:04I don't know. It's a name that has meant so much to us in fantasy football that I want to give it some good thought.
51:10You go for the wide receivers. Yeah, wide receivers.
51:13Yeah, kind of an underwhelming week one. Eight catches, 121 yards, and a touchdown combined.
51:17And a lot of that was one play to Dontavian Wicks.
51:20But keep in mind, this was a really good game script for the Eagles.
51:23They led for most of this game. Hurts only attempted 25 passes.
51:27And also Dallas Goddard sold two touchdowns. So that's why there wasn't much impact from them.
51:31They were staying the course on Devontae Smith. He was on the field for 20...
51:35He ran around on 25 of their 28 pass plays in the game.
51:38Dontavian Wicks was second at 24. Makai Lemon at 23.
51:41So my perception of this unit is basically the same as in the offseason.
51:45So that's pretty much the end of the analysis.
51:47It's just like it's what we thought it was going to be.
51:50Devontae Smith is still a lineup block. He's the one.
51:53Wicks and Lemon, I think, are just going to steal too much from each other.
51:57It's just not going to be enough consistent volume.
52:00I can't trust either guy in my lineup right now.
52:02I'm not a part of this conversation because this is your team.
52:05But you're allowed to speak to it. I appreciate that.
52:08I'm going to ask a dummy question. When you say a player was out there for 25 and ran a route on
52:1425 of the 28 pass plays, that means that three of the passing plays, he was just a blocker?
52:19Or he was on the sideline. On the field, yes.
52:22For a wide receiver, it usually means they're on the sideline.
52:25But some guys will block, you know. Tied Angel's day in the block.
52:28Because he could block. Got it. Okay, so he took a breather for three plays, basically.
52:32Which, I mean, if you're 25 of 28, that's around 90%.
52:35I mean, that's a great hit rate. I appreciate it.
52:38I just wanted the context. I appreciate it. Go ahead.
52:41When do we start talking about Saquon Barkley? In which way?
52:44Maybe, like, is D graduating a term? I know what you mean when you say it.
52:48Moving down? Yep. Are the days of Saquon Barkley being an off-the-charts fantasy back behind us?
52:52I think so. Okay. I think so, but I think we felt that way in draft season, right?
52:57Well, I don't know. I think I wrote exactly that.
53:00I just feel like he was clustered with a bunch of guys.
53:03I wasn't here with, you guys know my Derrick Henry optimism, but it was like he was being drafted right around.
53:08Amarion Hampton and Jeremiah Love and Ashton Gentey. All guys where it's like, they can make the big leap and be a top five running back, right?
53:16Yeah. Here's why I'm concerned about Saquon. A couple of years ago, obviously, he was off-the-charts amazing.
53:20He had over 2,000 rushing yards. He was perhaps a fantasy top five MVP.
53:24The guy was amazing, right? Every single week, he had five games with 30-plus fantasy points.
53:28I remember just a couple weeks ago being like, we haven't talked a lot about Saquon Barkley.
53:33Maybe we should a little bit more. Part of the reality two years ago that hasn't changed is that Saquon Barkley did not catch a ton of passes.
53:40It didn't matter because he was running so dang efficiently.
53:43Yep. The Eagles offensive line was so darn good.
53:45The scheme was so perfect. They win the Super Bowl that year.
53:49All those things go right. Mike, you're an Eagles fan.
53:51Are you optimistic about the offensive line right now?
53:54No. Not with Landon Dickerson. It's getting a little older.
53:56I still think it's a very good offensive line when healthy, but yeah, they've been a little beat up.
54:01There was a time where it felt like two years ago they were in a tier basically by themselves as an offensive line.
54:08Definitely. There may be a top five or eight offensive line.
54:10I'm not Mike Goldick Jr. I'm not going to sit here and try to rank all 32, but I don't think they
54:16are viewed anymore as so much better than everybody else that you could put me behind them and you get a bunch of yards.
54:23Saquon is obviously an elite talent. So the offensive line is not nearly as good.
54:27Saquon Barkley's rushing efficiency as a result goes down.
54:29Over his past six regular season games, I didn't even look at the playoff games, Saquon Barkley has a total of 11
54:35targets and three catches for 11 receiving yards. This is, you know, one third of a 17 games pace, but just for
54:41some context, that would be a full season pace of nine catches for 31 yards for Saquon Barkley.
54:46If it keeps up, it's going to be better than that.
54:49It's going to be better than nine catches for 31 yards, but he has basically been rid of his receiving duties, which
54:55is not like he was catching a hundred passes two years ago, but he was running so darn effectively and scoring so many touchdowns.
55:01It didn't matter. This Eagles offense is not as good as it was two years ago.
55:05He's still not catching passes that I don't know.
55:08I'm worried that Saquon, I don't know, in a month that we talk about him as like RB 17 as opposed to
55:14RB, like he might've been RB seven in our week one ranks.
55:17I am both worried because I agree with all of the things that you're saying field and try to figure out how
55:23to counterbalance that with what I feel like Mike is potentially also going to say, which is they have such a great
55:29schedule, at least to start the year. Yes. Yes.
55:31This will help this weekend. The title, if it doesn't happen against the Titans and that's maybe part of it.
55:36Yes, definitely. If it doesn't happen against the Titans, I will say this was a low volume game for them in some ways.
55:42The, he did have 80 yards. So it's not, I mean, again, not, you know, he didn't have a Derek Henry game
55:48or anything like that, but he did have 80 yards on.
55:51He's also on the field for 22 of their 33 called passes.
55:54It was eight for Will Shipley, three for tank big space.
55:57That's still a pretty good number. At least he was out in the field.
56:01So perhaps that'll lead to more targets, but I hear you.
56:04He's going to have to, to, to make up ground to become a top five, top seven running back.
56:09He's going to have to run at a high level.
56:12And you're right. I don't know if he gets that level anymore.
56:15And that was my thought in the off season was I think he's now down a tier or two.
56:20Like he's still going to hang in the running back one conversation.
56:23There's so much volume. There's talent there. The old line is still pretty good.
56:27The offense will be fine, but I don't know if he gets to that level.
56:31I don't think he's going to be in the conversation with Robinson Gibbs, CMC guys like that.
56:36I think those days are behind. So the first like few weeks of the season for fantasy in my mind, or not
56:42just talking about the guys that kind of come out of nowhere and have huge games, Isaiah likely goes off and is he a tight end one?
56:49But I think it's also looking at the big names that we talked about coming into the season and deciding like, if
56:55things don't go as expected, can things turn quickly to Marches, right?
56:58We expect that to turn in a major way, or is this going to be like where things are heading going forward?
57:04And like, is a Saquon Barkley or Devante Adams, usually older players, are they more vulnerable to the potential slide?
57:09So I've got Saquon ranked easily, easily inside my top 20.
57:12I'm starting him every league that I have. I'm not, I'm not suggesting otherwise.
57:16I'm just flagging it. Yeah. I need to turn around in a hurry or else the conversation has become a whole lot more serious.
57:22I'm with you. Yeah. It's different. Like, I think it's what we talked about before with like Jonathan Taylor, like being at
57:28that level, that's not Saquon Barkley's level now. Like when you're evaluating trades, you know, we're not putting him in that category anymore.
57:34So I would agree with that. Field and I are taking the Eagles, Mike, you and the producers on the Titans, which was a surprising pick here.
57:41No one's that foolish. You know, but that arrogance though, that's an upset special here, isn't it?
57:46It is. Isn't it? Oh man. This is one of our producers.
57:49Dave is a huge Titans fan. So you guys got to have a little wager.
57:53This is the perfect week for Mike to be like, so when's Cam Ward going to put it together?
57:58Huh? When's Cam Ward finally going to get good at football?
58:01Oh, this week against my Eagles, huh? Yeah. They would.
58:04That's how it tends to go. Let's talk about the Raheem Sanders Monopoly Fund, my friends.
58:08We crushed it last week. One for one. We.
58:11You crushed it. Oh, it's we're a team. We are a team.
58:14Let's be clear. If I get it right, I will not be giving you guys credit.
58:18All right. That's right. Thank you for giving me credit, but I will not be.
58:22Daniel's still being humble after going 0 for last year.
58:25That's right. I respect it. I need to earn a little bit more.
58:28Grabbing Cole Komet. I got lucky. We scored 59 points.
58:31Honestly, your pick of Kalief Raymond was also an awesome choice.
58:34Objectively speaking, that was probably the best pick. The best pick.
58:37This is a game I've lost. The Cole Komet touchdown was like a...
58:40How many times could Caleb have made that throw?
58:43If he tried that a hundred times, how many times did he do?
58:46How many times did he hit that? Caleb with that arm talent?
58:49Maybe 50. I mean, it's incredible, but I mean, it could not have been better.
58:53I mean, it was a 100% accuracy right into his hands.
58:56If it was off a little bit and maybe doesn't happen.
58:59I mean, perfect play. All right. We're going to start this week.
59:02I'm going to go with Diami Brown. Ooh, talk to me.
59:051% rostered, guys. Taking on the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys just got embarrassed, to be honest, by the Giants.
59:10I expect the Dallas Cowboys to find that offense that they didn't have in week one.
59:14When that happens, there's going to just have to be a lot of throwing in this game.
59:19I don't think it's going to be the running back.
59:22So I'm just taking a shot at an offense.
59:24I think it's just going to have to throw the ball a lot.
59:28Yeah. And he ran clearly as the number three wide receiver last week ahead of Antonio Williams.
59:32My only concern with Brown would be, does Williams take that job after impressing?
59:36If they watch the tape and say, hey, this guy's good.
59:39He flips and they flip roles. But again, we're talking about under 1% guys.
59:42So under 0.5%. I thought about him too. We cut it in half because last week we're 1% because we hit.
59:48Now we have to pick guys under 0.5%. I forgot about that.
59:51So I got lucky with Mike. Oh, wow. Thank you for that.
59:55I forgot we did that. But a reminder that every time we're making the case for somebody in the Raheem Sanders fund,
60:00the case against is about 100 times stronger. So much stronger.
60:03I just wanted to make a point about Antonio Williams there.
60:06So I was just sliding that in there. I came so close to, and I still think it's a really good pick.
60:12Raheem Sanders this week. I thought about it too.
60:15As Raheem Sanders, probably going to be the Browns' RB too with Dylan Sampson banged up.
60:19He's going to miss some time. But my pick surprisingly had six targets in week one.
60:23Yeah. I like this one. Maybe some post-hype production for Roman Wilson.
60:26Third round pick a couple years ago out of Michigan for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
60:30There was some talk about him during the preseason.
60:32Him and Aaron Rodgers seemingly having a connection. Enough that he got six targets in week one.
60:37They play the Patriots. I mentioned the weather could be gnarly earlier, but we'll monitor that.
60:41But I'm going Roman Wilson. 0.2% rostered. Like it.
60:44I like it. Although I don't want it to work out because we need Metcalf.
60:48We need our guy Michael Pittman. We need Terry McLaurin.
60:50We need Stephon Diggs too. I know. I hear you.
60:53All right. But what we don't really need is a lot of the Patriots wide receivers because we're not going to start them.
60:59So mine's fine here. I'm going to go with Kyle Williams.
61:02All right. I want this one to happen. You know, we talked about the Patriots game earlier.
61:07This guy is fourth in line at receiver. I looked at the usage after the injury as well.
61:12I was hoping to see more Kyle Williams because he looked pretty good last year in spots.
61:16It didn't happen. It was a little more. He got a few more routes, but I would like to see more.
61:22Only 11 snaps, seven routes last week. But he's going to be fourth in line at receiver.
61:26And last year, he had three long touchdowns. He hits for the big play occasionally.
61:30Remember, this is a year two receiver. It was a third round pick last year.
61:34Tough matchup here against Pittsburgh. But again, only need one.
61:37One big play. And I think they'll dial up a play or two for him in this game.
61:42I like it. Either of you guys think about any of the Baltimore wide receivers with the depth issues we're currently having?
61:48Safe hours, no practice yesterday. And then Jacoby Lane.
61:50On IR. Probably a month. They had Chris Moran.
61:52Old friend Chris Moran. I feel like he's had 19 cups of tea in Baltimore.
61:56He was very involved last week. I don't know if they'll do that again.
62:00The Laquan Treadwell of Baltimore. Yeah. Yes. So we'll see.
62:03We'll talk about Devontae Walker. Guys like that might be involved.
62:06I like that one. All right. Let's dive into a little bit more of the mailbag here before we get out of here on a Thursday.
62:13Guys, first question that we have comes from Kenny Templeton.
62:15Are you playing Kittle? Are you going to stick with Likely?
62:18Now be careful. The logo for this person is a 49ers logo.
62:22I'm sticking with Isaiah Likely. Yeah, me too. I think so, too.
62:25Another week of Likely. I think it's totally fine to, like, you've got this really talented younger player.
62:30Like, let's see if George Kittle, like, I'd like for him to get to, I don't know, 65% of the snaps before
62:35you're calling them an every week starter. Yes. I agree.
62:38And I like the idea of being able to just keep on following what we saw from Week 1 with Likely.
62:44All right. Just in time. Lawrence or Herbert? Justin Herbert.
62:46Yeah, Herbert. Lawrence has played Denver. Jamer Gamer wants to know, in my knockout league, who's a better flex option?
62:52And Kalen Black or Tyler Algier? I'm going Kalen Black.
62:54Tyler Algier and the Seahawks. Seahawks. Kalen Black against Miami.
62:57He might have a busy second half. I agree with Field on that one.
63:01Yep. All right. Next one we have. This is another one.
63:04Destroy Nation wants to know, Baker or Patrick Mahomes?
63:06I've got Patty Mahomes. Yeah, me too. Baker Mayfield.
63:09I'm going Mahomes. I like what I saw last week.
63:11I do, too. But also, I want to say the revenge game for Baker Mayfield coming back.
63:16I kind of like that, too. Fair, fair, fair.
63:18All right. Tim wants to know, does Aaron Jones become a lineup block at RB2 over Warren and Cross Kimera in a full PPR league?
63:25There's Jordan Mason going on IR as part of this.
63:28I did fill in Aaron. I was on the fence.
63:30And usually, I guess if I'm on the fence, if a guy's a lineup block, he probably shouldn't be.
63:35But Aaron Jones in my top 20, I feel like he is.
63:39I feel like you plug him in if you got him.
63:41A little outside my top 20. I think 24 for me in my week.
63:45I lean towards 12 team leagues, too. So I think he's I think you'd be hard pressed to bench Aaron Jones in this spot.
63:52But if you told me he played 75% of the snaps this week, I would not be surprised.
63:56It's going to be like Jerome Ford and DJ Dallas.
63:59Yeah. DJ Dallas, I think it's been five years since he had more than four touches in a game.
64:04Wow. I mean, he'll have some sort of role in passing situations.
64:07But what I think they're going to do is probably Aaron Jones more in early downs and maybe Dallas in passing situations and mix Jerome Ford.
64:14And that would be my guess. But we'll see how it plays out.
64:18Love that. Also love being able to do the show with you, fellas.
64:21Thanks for hanging out with me today. Thanks for hanging out with us today and hanging out in chat for Mike and Field.
64:27Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
64:30You guys, you deserve it. We love you so much.
64:33We'll be back here on Friday to recap Thursday Night Football.