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0:21You're in the 06010. What's up, friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football alongside Mike Clay and Field Yates.
0:26Sorry about that, Mike. I just yell. That nice, pleasant music comes on and then you start screaming at my ear.
0:32I know. It's not my fault. You know what it reminds me of?
0:35What? You guys are well aware. I have three children.
0:38My middle child is every day the tone setter.
0:41She wakes up earliest. The problem is my middle is still in a crib.
0:44My oldest is not. Anyway, this is good. My middle, in order to let everybody know that she's awake, has to make some noise.
0:51She has a monitor in her room and I've told her, the monitor is right next to your bed.
0:56Yep. And I have the monitor feed on my phone right next to my bed.
1:00Okay. So all you gotta do when you wake up in the morning is just go, Daddy.
1:05She doesn't do that, does she feel? Instead, she pretends like no monitors exist whatsoever and our bedrooms are on opposite sides
1:11of the house, of the top floor, and she screams at the top of her lungs, waking up her big sister and oftentimes her little sister.
1:18Gosh. At least that's not till like probably 8, 8.30, right?
1:21Yeah. Yeah, sure. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, definitely late in the day.
1:25Yeah, like it's probably 8 or 8.30 in like the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, but more like, you know, 6 or 6.30 in the Yates household.
1:32Fields, did you have an energy bar this morning?
1:34I did. I think you have a little bit right here on your nose.
1:38Did I? Right there. There you go. Got it, baby.
1:41I also have makeup done. Thank you. No, that's all right.
1:44By my kids as well. It's not your fault.
1:46I also love, I walked into the makeup room this morning here at ESPN and the makeup artist who was helping me
1:52out was like, did you do your own makeup today?
1:55Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, why? That's how pretty he is.
1:58Yes, that's exactly it. She's like, because there's glitter all over your face right now.
2:02Oh, that's a door. After I'm done my makeup, the other makeup artists are like, oh, come on in.
2:07We'll get, we'll take care of it. No, no, the point was my daughters are constantly doing my makeup.
2:12I am like the glitter king. We got a big, we got a big show today.
2:17I want to get to one thing that's not football, but I want to tell you what we are going to talk about on the show today.
2:24We got our week four rankings, obviously a random ranking we do at the end of the show.
2:29We've had a lot of fun being able to do that.
2:32Chat has been a blast with that. We got some face-offs that we are going to do, some fantasy face-offs as to
2:38who we would want to start this week. And a quick shout out to our friends over at Trophy Smack.
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2:48We're going to dive into rankings in a minute, but first, Field, you're playing through something right now.
2:53You came in with a big red Q next to your name.
2:56Yeah, but I don't miss shows, do I? You don't.
2:59Pretty rarely, at least. You don't. Are you going to be limited, though?
3:02Are you going to be limited today? I need to report.
3:05Don't anticipate being limited, but you guys can judge based off how my analysis goes.
3:09Okay. Yeah, the Yates kids, we will not be having more than three kids is what happened.
3:14Because that's where we're at. We're done. Yeah, we're done.
3:17Took care of something yesterday so that there will be three Yates girls.
3:20Absolutely, man. Over the next couple of months, there will be no more Yates girls going forward.
3:25When they take them out, do they put fake ones in there so that it's still...
3:29Is that how it works? Leave the fifth on that one, Daniel.
3:32All right. I actually don't know too much about it.
3:35Okay. It's a very disarming process for about 25 minutes.
3:38Yeah, look. We're all dealing with something right now, right?
3:41So I think we should do a poll and see who has the toughest recovery this week, right?
3:45Okay. Talk to me. Daniel Dopp dealing with his leg hair recovery from that pain.
3:50I think that may have hurt more than my procedure.
3:52I'm not kidding. So frustrating. Which is wild. You're, of course, dealing with your procedure.
3:56Yeah. And I'm a little tired today. Okay. Wow.
3:59I think we should see who has the toughest recovery today.
4:02I think we should do a poll in the chat and see what people think.
4:06Let's dive into our week's tour rankings. Updating projections.
4:08There's a lot of like this, like tapping the keyboard and stuff.
4:12Yes. I know. You know, that's a lot of work.
4:14Shout out to our buddy Eric Moody, who's always hanging out in chat, holding it down.
4:19Here are our top rankings at the quarterback spot.
4:21Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Tyler Shough, and Bryce Young are your top five.
4:25Six through 10 is Brock Purdy, Trevor Lawrence, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, and Jalen Hurts.
4:29Field G8s, I'd like to call on you. Yeah, we're going to talk about three names specifically in just a moment.
4:35But can we all agree that other than Josh Allen being the quarterback god, not a lot about quarterback has gone according to scripts so far this year.
4:43Correct. Right. The idea was, at least in my opinion, the idea was like Lamar Jackson versus Jaden Daniels versus Jalen Hurts versus Joe Burrow.
4:50Throw in a few other names right there in that top tier.
4:53Yep. They're all kind of close. And rather than arguing over whether Lamar should be ahead of Jaden Daniels or Jalen Hurts,
4:59the bigger point was like they're so close that you might see Jalen be the second drafted quarterback.
5:04You might see Lamar, but who cares, right? Instead, the answer is that it's Josh and then it's everybody else.
5:09And we've had some new names that have entered the chat.
5:12Like if I were to ask you guys just without thinking about it too much, Josh Allen is off the board.
5:18Who's the quarterback you want most rest of season?
5:20Who's your answer? Go. Probably Lamar Jackson. Yeah, Lamar Jackson.
5:23Okay. And then number two, be on Lamar? Pass.
5:26All right. I don't think that there is a definitive number three quarterback that I've seen through three weeks that I can
5:32say that's who I would want rest of season.
5:34And I'm not sure that Lamar has run away with being QB2, right?
5:38I mean, he's not QB2 in terms of scoring so far.
5:41No, it's that he's done well enough and I know the skill set that he has.
5:45The other guys that are in that conversation, have they played a little above their skis or is this like you're talking about?
5:51Is this a new group of guys to be in there?
5:54Maybe Brock Purdy? Yeah. Purdy's been amazing. Patrick Mahomes has been awesome.
5:58Like there are some names that have entered the chat.
6:00Yeah. Anyways, that's my big takeaway on quarterbacks so far is that those rankings look weird compared to where we were preseason.
6:06Yeah. You might have just get used to that.
6:09Matchups matter so much. And by the way, there was a lot of, oh man, we should have taken Allen way earlier after week two.
6:16I mean, he was QB19 in week three. So we'll see if he actually is at that level.
6:21And he may be. I mean, we projected him well ahead of all the other quarterbacks.
6:25We ranked him ahead of all of their quarterbacks as well.
6:28But the level he was at after two weeks, the thought was maybe he actually was worth the replacement cost.
6:33The premium of where you would have had to take him.
6:36We'll see. I mean, back to QB19, back to earth.
6:39He's only 13 points ahead of Brock Purdy, who you took substantially later in draft.
6:43So we'll see how that aspect of it pans out.
6:46I want to start with you, Mike, because Bryce Young is as high as he has ever been in our fantasy rankings.
6:52Coming off of a down week, unfortunately, against Cleveland.
6:54But he is getting a great matchup this week.
6:57Yeah, he is. You mentioned back to earth last week, 13.6 fantasy points, which at some points of his career, you'd be like, I'd take that.
7:04Yeah. 14 from Bryce. So had 291 passing yards in that game.
7:07He actually leads the NFL in both passing yards and expected passing touchdowns.
7:11So he's getting the passing volume. He's getting opportunities near the goal line to throw the football.
7:15That's huge. Remember, weeks one and two. I mean, I want to say a good matchup against Chicago, although they've been better lately.
7:22But either way, three passing touchdowns against him, three against Atlanta as well.
7:25If there's a little bit of a red flag here on him sustaining QB1 numbers, it's the rushing.
7:30He has three carries for 16 yards so far.
7:33Did score a rushing touchdown, which helped, but he didn't do a lot of that last year.
7:37So we'll see. Of course, to your point, why is he ranked QB3, QB5, QB3 by us this week?
7:42Daniel, avert your ears. I don't like it, guys.
7:45You're playing your Detroit Lions. They've led the most passing yards and fantasy points to quarterbacks so far as well as nine touchdowns already.
7:51They've played Josh Allen, Geno Smith, and Tyler Shuck.
7:54They have all put up at least 23 points against this defense.
7:57Bryce is in a great spot. He's playing well.
8:00Great matchup. Lots to love here. I couldn't agree more.
8:02I'm going to save too many thoughts because I have another Panther that will come up in our rankings conversation in just a little bit.
8:09Do you expect at some point your Lions defense is going to show up?
8:13Or have you just kind of succumbed to the idea that, all right, we are going to score 30 plus in almost every game.
8:20We are also going to allow 30 plus in almost every game.
8:23I think more of that one. Okay. Yeah. I mean, where are the answers?
8:27Right? Like, it doesn't sound like Kirby Joseph is anywhere close.
8:30I was going to say the answers are getting the two safeties back, Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph.
8:35And without that happening, we've got a huge hole at the number two cornerback spot.
8:39Dan Campbell won't even confirm that Kirby Joseph's going to play again this year.
8:42I know like he's stopping short of that. I know that we don't talk a lot of defense here, but we're talking about how exploitable the Lions are.
8:50And Brian Branch at some point sounds like he will be back, but a defensive back coming off of an Achilles tear
8:56isn't the same as Brian Branch at his peak.
8:59So this is why the Detroit Lions honestly are the most fantasy friendly team in all of football because their offense scores so many points.
9:05They have so many superstars and their defense is so bad that it allows the other team's offense to score so many points.
9:12And then it's just a shootout, a barrage of passing back and forth.
9:15Like they are the most fantasy friendly team in the offense, just like team in the NFL.
9:20I feel like the only way that one of their games does not go this way is if, and they play obviously in a dome.
9:27So this, and they play in a division with another dome team.
9:30Maybe they'll play a monsoon game or something soon.
9:32Whether? Yeah. Like other than that, I can't imagine a Lions game not being extremely high school.
9:37Yeah. I agree. They're similar to Dallas last year.
9:40You have to wonder with their light schedule and their good offense and their window open, there's plenty of opportunity in the NBA and the NFC.
9:47I wonder if they're like Dallas at the trade deadline and try to make some defensive acquisitions.
9:51They might have to, because if they're like, Hey, we have a shot this year with this slate, we can potentially win the conference.
9:58They need the Raiders to start losing a lot of games because Max Crosby.
10:02Crosby. Yeah. Boom. We're aligned on Bryce Young. Who's your pick for quarterback, Daniel?
10:05I'm out on Jalen Hurts this week, my friends.
10:08Jalen Hurts has been really difficult. We're picking on each other here.
10:11Yeah, a little bit. And this isn't about you, Michael, but back-to-back weeks, finishing outside the top 15 at quarterback, guys.
10:17Checking the Charlotte weather. And that was against the Titans and the Bears.
10:20Those aren't like defenses that we thought was going to make him be this far down the line.
10:25His rushing upside just is not the same as it was last year.
10:29That has basically disappeared. The loss of A.J. Brown, even though he has a true wide receiver one in Devontae Smith, I think the loss of A.J.
10:36Brown is just another weapon that hasn't given him a passing outlet, even though we've seen a little bit over here.
10:42And the Rams, this is just a tough defense.
10:44Regardless of what they have done, they have given up over 20 fantasy points to quarterbacks in two of the last three weeks.
10:51But I'm just expecting a much tougher outing for Jalen Hurts in this one.
10:55He's not the guy that we thought he was coming into the season.
10:58Similar to that Saquon Barkley conversation, I don't really think he's a tier one guy right now.
11:03I think he's more like a high-end tier two quarterback.
11:06Still a low-end QB1, but this week he's very low-end QB1.
11:09Yeah, he's close. I mean, he has 16 carries, 87 yards, and one touchdown on the ground.
11:13That was like Josh Allen's week two. Yeah, pretty much.
11:16I mean, I think he had 16 carries in week two.
11:19Yeah, I mean, look. The offense struggled last year.
11:21His rushing was rolled back from about 150 carries to about 105 last year, and he was QB8 in fantasy points per game.
11:28Now the offense doesn't look much better. Maybe week one, but not since then.
11:31And he's running perhaps even less. And they lost one of the best weapons.
11:35He might not be at QB1 much longer. Yeah.
11:38He might be like Mariota or Kyler Murray level at this point.
11:41So they have to get it going. They have to figure out how to move.
11:45The schedule is easy, much like Detroit's going forward.
11:48That helps for sure. But the offense needs to be more efficient, and he has to add a little bit more with his life.
11:54Do you guys know where you have him ranked this week against the Rams?
11:58Quarterback 11 for me. You have him 11? I am 11 as well.
12:0111, yeah. Okay. By the way, I think that week one might actually be painting like a slightly rosier picture for where
12:07Jalen Hurst is at right now compared to where it was.
12:10That game against Washington, he had one passing touchdown until the fourth quarter.
12:14He got two in the – and those count, obviously, right?
12:17But like it was a slog for three quarters there.
12:20Week two, they win a game against Tennessee that was far closer than we anticipated.
12:24And this past week, he lays an egg. He does have a rushing touchdown against the Bears, but otherwise an unforgettable night.
12:30The entire Eagles offense has my concerns. Yeah. Right?
12:32I mean, ultimately, they have taken clubs out of the bag of both Jalen Hurst and Saquon Barkley to be elite fantasy weapons.
12:39Yeah. They can coexist together, but the truth is that Saquon in a different offense, not playing with Jalen Hurst, is probably a more valuable player.
12:46I don't think that Jalen, his value is determined by Saquon's presence one way or the other, but Saquon – Jalen not
12:52being able to run nearly as much. And that could be an age thing, right?
12:56He's getting – not old, but he is, you know, he's what, eight years into his career now?
13:01Like at some point, you have to be mindful of the wear and tear, even of the most durable, steady quarterbacks, like
13:07Jalen Hurst is an absolute freight train. But yeah, we may have seen the sun set on Jalen Hurst being a top three to four fantasy quarterback.
13:14Yeah. He's an amazing real-life quarterback. Yes. But a fantasy quarterback might be a different conversation.
13:18The push-push really elevated him for a while, and that's not where it's at now.
13:23But if you remember in history, like that's just not going to be the Jalen Hurst.
13:27By the way, your golf metaphor game is on point.
13:30Thank you. I was waiting for my opportunity. We've been making a lot of different sport references.
13:34I like that one. Thank you. Gloves out of the bag.
13:37That's like a pretty common golf metaphor. Yeah. Mike and I, that's not – I mean – That was a good one.
13:43You're basically the Tiger Woods of ESPN. I'm surprised you haven't heard it.
13:47I couldn't wait to pounce on that, but he just kept talking.
13:50Come on, man. My quarterback pick is a name that Mike – Oh, go ahead.
13:54Why don't you talk some more, Phil? Yeah, just mentioned.
13:57Sorry. Wait, do you have more to say? No, no, no.
14:00Okay. No, no, no. It was just because of Mike.
14:03You mentioned his name, Mike? Kyler Murray. I think this is one of the – second straight week I brought him up as a topic.
14:09Last week it was like, can we resurrect Kyler Murray as a fantasy starter?
14:13The Bucs – Vikings, excuse me, who played the Bucs last week – have three straight games under 250 yards of total offense.
14:20If Kyler Murray does not get the job done this weekend, then we might be kicking him to the curb as a
14:26fantasy asset, much less an elite fantasy quarterback. The reason, of course, is they play the Miami Dolphins.
14:31Miami actually, if you look at some of the fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks, passing yards to quarterbacks, not terrible.
14:36It's just that teams don't really need to throw the football that much against Miami.
14:40But check this out. When they do, the Dolphins defensively have accounted for a total of zero sacks, the only team in
14:46the NFL without a single sack this year. Quarterbacks have plenty of time.
14:50What does time generally lead to? Better accuracy. Opposing quarterbacks are completing 80.3% of their passes against the Dolphins' defense right now.
14:56They are the best quarterback in NFL history when facing off against this Dolphins' defense through three weeks.
15:01They are allowing, the Dolphins are, 9.1 yards per attempt so far.
15:04That is second worst in the NFL. Only the Cardinals are worse.
15:07Miami's defense is so bad and so generous. How bad are they field?
15:11I mean, they make teams. They make opposing quarterbacks.
15:13Basically, they're bad. No, that was a joke. Oh.
15:16You were like, they're so bad. And I was like, how bad are they field?
15:20So bad. Oh, okay. I don't know. I landed flat.
15:22So bad that I... It's like a Yo Mama joke, guys.
15:25Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. But we don't have a good metaphor.
15:29And then I don't realize your thought. He's a metaphor guy today.
15:32Yeah, metaphor guy. That's my bad, guys. The clubs in the bag of the Dolphins' defense.
15:36There are none of them. The defense is terrible.
15:39Kyler Murray, if not now, never, right? So if Kyler can't perform at a high level this week, then we can just
15:45kiss the Kyler Murray as a quarterback starter experiment goodbye.
15:47Agreed. And we'll pivot to other names that were drafted outside the top 10 as either streaming options or guys that could
15:53fill your roster spot for four to six weeks.
15:56I have some Kyler thoughts, but I'm going to save them for a little later in the show when Mike and I
16:02maybe go back and forth a little bit. We do have a couple of questions, though.
16:06Before we move on from our chat about the quarterback position this week, and our first question we have from our YouTube
16:12chat comes from the wonderful Christina Buswell. Hey! How are you?
16:15Can I start Geno Smith over Drake? Drake May.
16:18May continues to burn me, but can I really trust Geno?
16:21By the way, this is against you. Yeah, here's the thing.
16:24She's playing me in the show league this week, guys, so I think she should play Drake May.
16:29What about you? You have Geno over May. I would play Geno over Drake May.
16:33Geno against Chicago. It's close. I've got Drake May.
16:35Honestly, it's so close. I don't know who I have ranked ahead.
16:39How close does it feel? So close. Still not Dinland.
16:41All right, I'm not going to do it again, guys.
16:44I'm completely flummoxed. I don't know. I do a May ahead by a little bit.
16:48Do you? There we go. David Lichlund. I've got May ahead of Geno Smith, so my answer is Drake.
16:53I don't feel great about either, but this is what it is.
16:57Prescott or Bryce Young this week, guys? Oh, come on.
16:59Bryce Young. We just talked about it. This one's not even close.
17:03Gotta go Bryce Young. It's just the matchup. Mr.
17:05ANC Mariota or Kyler Murray, guys? Man, it's crazy, because who do you have more confidence in playing well this weekend?
17:11Marcus Mariota. And who do you have more confidence in the matchup in this week?
17:15Kyler Murray. But it's close. It's really that simple.
17:17It's not like the Colts are any good defensively.
17:20Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go to this overseas, too.
17:22I've got Kyler Murray ranked ahead of him. Me, too.
17:25I do, too. I'll take Kyler. I got him at six.
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17:45Bloom Energy, power America relies on. All right. Let's talk about some running backs, my friends.
17:50Running backs here in week four. The top 20 starts with Jameer Gibbs, Bajon Robinson, Ken Walker III, Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry,
17:56CMC, Ashton Gentry, and James Cook, as well as Chase Brown, Chuba Hubbard, Jeremiah Love, Bucky Irving, Aaron Jones taking on Miami,
18:02Saquon Barkley, Cam Scadaboo rounds out the top 15, Javante Williams, Jalen Warren, Kyron Williams, DeAndre Swift, and David Montgomery.
18:07That's top 20. Are we talking about Warren here?
18:10No. If you didn't do it, I was going to.
18:12I just pulled out Rico Dowdle this morning, so Warren moves up to, I believe, if I'm at nine.
18:18Yeah, Rico Dowdle was a non-participant in their estimated workout yesterday.
18:21Yep. He was out there with his teammates, but was estimated as a non-participant.
18:24I don't think any of us are talking about him, but we will talk about it tomorrow.
18:29Thursday night preview. Yep. I just want to say really quickly, I want to talk about Jameer Gibbs.
18:34Is there a way we can throw that panel back up on the screen?
18:38Can we see really quickly, like just the top running backs again so that we can see what Jameer Gibbs' projection is?
18:44His projection is 26.18. Yeah, too low probably based on what we've seen.
18:47Bajon Robinson's is 21.5, almost a full five points lower.
18:50Wow. He is averaging, Jameer Gibbs, 32.8 fantasy points per game.
18:53He leads the NFL with 27.6 touches per game on an offense that's scoring 30 points every single game.
18:5826.18 is a massive number, and also it might not be high enough.
19:02Mike, honestly, with the way that they are utilizing him, this guy really is getting the ball almost 30 times a game.
19:08Yeah. You asked Mike yesterday if he had any, like, historical data points about this projection, and you said you didn't know for sure.
19:14I don't recall exactly, but I think, like, It's very high.
19:17Peak Christian McCaffrey was probably in, was certainly in this vicinity some weeks when the matchup was really good.
19:2327, 28 points. Yeah, Gibbs is on a heater right now to open the season with three top three finishes.
19:28He already is 19 points ahead of Ken Walker.
19:30Think about how good Ken Walker's been so far.
19:33Score multiple touchdowns pretty much every game so far, if not every game, and he has a 19 point edge on him.
19:39I mean, he's just crushing the competition right now.
19:41And a couple things, again, we don't have to belabor Jameer Gibbs analysis for too long, but he has a couple of
19:47really important things going for him, is maybe three actually.
19:50The defense is so bad, they're going to have to score points every single game.
19:54We talked about that just a moment ago. On top of that, there's nobody, I mean, nobody behind him.
19:59Sione Vocky and Jacob Saylor's, like, there's no threat to Jameer Gibbs, and Isaiah Pacheco, that could be a while, right?
20:05On top of that, this is a pressure cooker year for Dan Campbell.
20:09And ultimately, I think the coaching staff understands, in a different, I'm trying to think of like a coach, like maybe, maybe
20:15we've seen a little bit of this with Kyle Shanahan.
20:17He signed that extension, like just before the season started.
20:20He's not going anywhere, right? So, they aren't going to fail.
20:23They're already three and oh, they look like a very good team.
20:26But Kyle can play the long game a little bit more with a player like Christian McCaffrey, that I feel like this
20:32Lions staff, like maybe is saying to themselves, a couple of years ago, we're not just the toast of the NFC North,
20:38but like we're the team that has a chance to control the conference for the next three years.
20:43Feels a little bit different right now. They got to win this year.
20:47They got to win meaningfully, and it ain't going to be because of their defense.
20:51So Jameer, not going anywhere. Five catches, six catches, seven catches in his three games this year.
20:56Like he's just unbelievable. And he's the goal line back.
20:58Like he's awesome. I just wanted to point out 26, 26 points for projection.
21:02It's just huge. That's a massive number here, right?
21:05What about Ashton Gentry, Field Jates? Yeah. So the question that I have with Ashton Gentry is whether, because when you looked
21:11at those projections, six players, north of 20 fantasy points, which is a monster number.
21:15Seventh with Ashton Gentry, and he was at 18 plus fantasy points.
21:18The question I have for Gentry going forward is whether he has a chance to jump into that elite RB1 group, or
21:24if he's going to settle into more of like a solid RB2.
21:27After week one. Solid RB2? Yeah. You're thinking RB2.
21:30I mean, maybe let's talk about this. Okay. He was obviously incredible in week one when they played the husk of the Miami Dolphins defense, right?
21:37Yep. You have to be encouraged by the utilization.
21:39He's six in the NFL and carries incredibly encouraged by the passing game utilization.
21:43Everything is good on paper, right? You look at the number of opportunities he's getting, you look at the way they're using him, they're designing things for him.
21:51It's all awesome. One of my concerns coming into the season that I mentioned a few times was like, yeah, the offensive
21:57line is better, but how much better is it with Tyler Linderbaum as like the most meaningful outside contribution?
22:02They drafted Trey Zune in the fourth round, but it wasn't like they added four new starters along the offensive line.
22:08Right. Over the past two games playing, not the Miami Dolphins, Ashton Gentry has averaged 2.3 and 2.9 yards per carry.
22:13Now the chargers suck, but their defense, I think is pretty good.
22:17The saints, I don't think are some, you know, dominant defense that you're like under three yards per carry against New Orleans Saints.
22:23Yeah. That's what you expect. Like you don't expect that.
22:26So my question is if Ashton Gentry can't get that rushing utilization or that rushing efficiency up, he's 33rd in the NFL in yards per carry right now.
22:33Maybe he settles in to more like RB 12 as opposed to RB six or seven.
22:38Yeah. Interesting. And in, in this scenario where they're thinking, okay, the rushing efficiency isn't there.
22:42The adjustment here isn't to take him away from passing situations.
22:45Cause Mike Washington jr. His game is, you know, he's obviously a height, weight, speed, like superstar athlete.
22:50Yeah. They're going to use him as a runner.
22:52Like that's his game. He's not much of a pass catcher.
22:55So the adjustment would be fewer carries still should be involved in the passing.
22:59And be right. He could settle in as the role is elite.
23:03Yeah. The role is elite. Yeah. But the schedule coming up so far, definitely has all of our attention.
23:08Keep in mind that the Raiders three, you know, they deserve all the flowers they are getting right now.
23:13The next eight weeks are going to be a bit of a reality check, including the next four games chiefs this weekend.
23:19That's very tough. The Patriots, the book is still out on the Patriots.
23:23Not good so far. They are good run defense though.
23:25The bills and the Rams. So I got my eyes sort of glued on this one here for Ashton.
23:30It's going to be interesting. He only had three targets this last week with Brock Bowers back.
23:35He had a little bit more receiving game work the first two weeks without him, but I think it's still enough.
23:41But the passing game utilization is so good this year.
23:44It's three for 37. So these are like legit schemed up.
23:47Let's get him in space versus last year where it was like, Gino's about to get sacked.
23:51Let's, you know, flip the ball to Ashton for a negative one yard catch.
23:55Do you guys feel like, and this is not, maybe not a, once Fernando Mendoza potentially takes over, like quarterbacks all play differently.
24:01They all target differently. They all have their own safety valves.
24:04Like, are we going to be talking about how this defense, this offense might look different under Fernando Mendoza than it is
24:10under Kirk cousins with their, the way that we utilize the running back in this backfield.
24:15They want to be more aggressive at the very least.
24:17I don't think it'll change that. Agreed. I think they want to run the offense through.
24:22Yeah. In his hands. As much as possible with you.
24:24All right. What about Jeremiah? My love. Yes. Speaking of a guy who we need a little more efficiency out of it started great last week.
24:32He was averaging about five and a half, six yards per carry for most of that game.
24:36I kind of fell off late in that game, but the big news was just, they turned the backfield over to him
24:42in week three after limiting him the first two games, which is again, something we saw coming considering how much of the off season that he missed.
24:50But you look at the comps here very quickly weeks one and two, he played 43% of the snaps that went up
24:56to 63% week three weeks, one and two. He told 95 yards and one touchdown and 25 touches last week alone, 109
25:02yards and a touchdown on 26 touches. So he had more in week three in terms of touches than he did in weeks one and two combined.
25:09He also has been plenty involved in the passing game.
25:12He has at least three targets in every game so far this season.
25:15And here's the thing. This is going to be his best matchup so far.
25:19There's a big opportunity here. They're playing the giants are like 5.1 yards per carry to back so far this season.
25:25That's third highest. I've talked about how their schedule is pretty tough during the regular season and very easy during the fantasy
25:31playoffs, which is something that was very intriguing to me.
25:34But this is one of those good matchup. So big opportunity here for love.
25:37We got the volume last week. If he gets 20 touches again and the efficiency is better and he scores a touchdown again.
25:44I mean, he's going to be right in that RB one mix every week giants this week.
25:48Lions next week. Yeah. Back-to-back good ones. And then it gets tougher again.
25:52So this is a big window here for Jeremiah love.
25:55Yeah. The lions obviously are a bigger question defending the past, but they haven't been a whole lot better defending the run so far this season.
26:02Yeah. This would be great. And I really, really hope that the first two weeks of the Cardinals playing at Tyler Algier
26:08as much as they did was not stubbornness, but was truly just, Hey, the guy's coming off of a high ankle sprain.
26:14Like that's it. It had to be being smart, right?
26:16I hope it was. Yeah. I've not put anything past NFL coaches running back.
26:20So that's the hope. And the hope is that what we saw on Sunday with all due respect to Tyler Algier is the new norm going forward.
26:28I love it though. Be smart with your young new asset.
26:31That's amazing. Let's take a couple of questions before we dive into wide receivers from our mailbag running back questions this week.
26:37Zachary wants to know Montgomery with Nico Collins, healthy or Warren with no Rico.
26:40Yeah. Mike just mentioned right now we'd say Rico is if he at the very best for Thursday night.
26:46So definitely Jalen Warren. Also, is there any indication that Nico Collins is playing this week?
26:50I don't think so. I think that's more a question of if he plays this week.
26:54I think there is a big without Nico Collins, that offense isn't doing anything.
26:58I don't really want to play David Montgomery unless Nico can be a part of it because that offense can't be unlocked without Nico.
27:05I'm going to go with Jalen Warren. I'm with you on that one.
27:08Nico doesn't really affect my Montgomery evaluation anyway. Maybe it improves the offense a little bit.
27:13Probably the idea is the offense gets closer to the end zone.
27:16Yeah. That's about it. But not enough. Not super material.
27:19But yes, Warren is, I'd say a fringe Harvey one.
27:21So he's, he's the guy here. Love that. All right.
27:24Another question here from our YouTube chat. Derek Bruce wants to know Hampton or burden in the flex.
27:29Omari and Hampton. You want this one, Daniel? Or Luther burden.
27:32Well, I loved Omari and Hampton coming into the season.
27:35Mike loved Luther burden coming into the season. I wouldn't go that far.
27:38I mean, I did like him the final few weeks of the off season when his ADP came back to earth.
27:44You hated Luther burden. I did until the last few weeks of the off season when his ADP came back to earth.
27:50I would go. I drafted him a couple of times late.
27:53My answers are morning. I would probably still go with the running back.
27:57That's going to touch the ball a bunch. Not me.
27:59Okay. You know the burden. Heavily utilized last week.
28:02Playing well. I mean, he's quietly been okay so far.
28:04It just seems like it's been a disaster there, but the premier pass catchers, he's been fine and had a good game last week.
28:11Good connection with Case Keenum. What? But Hampton, I'm very concerned about.
28:14We'll talk more about that. Case Keenum doesn't start this week.
28:17Yeah. What do you guys think? Do you think they?
28:20They've been talking about Tyson Bajan being the guy.
28:23Yeah. It would have Ben Johnson say he's like Bajan won the number two job over him.
28:27So there's a reason for that. I'm going to guess based off what happened on Monday night, the Case Keenum's going to
28:33be the guy until he falls flat on his face or Kelly Williams returns.
28:37If Case Keenum is the guy, it does put more stock in the Luther burden basket for me.
28:42If it's Tyson Bajan, I would definitely go more.
28:44I don't know. I just don't have the same trust.
28:47Ben Johnson is telling us that Bajan is better than Case Keenum.
28:50So in theory, Johnson's offense also put up three points in week two.
28:54So, well, they also just crushed the Eagles defense and they put up.
28:57You're right. Points in week one or whatever it was.
29:00I don't know. That was, that was the line.
29:03So that's the, yeah, it's a little bit of bitterness.
29:05All right, let's dive into the wide receivers. Wide receivers here in week four.
29:09JSN, Jamar Chase, Amonra St. Brown, Puka Nakua. He's good.
29:12Chris Olave, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Drake London, just superstars, man.
29:15Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Nico Collins, if he plays, Parker Washington, Devontae Smith, Tedaroa McMillan, Rashi Rice, Devontae Adams, that is a
29:21top 16 with Christian Watson, George Pickens, Tee Higgins, and Jalen Coker rounding out the top 20 guys.
29:26Big, big day for Puka Nakua today, by the way.
29:29We'll see whether he does practice for the Rams.
29:31I would say this, the reporting has indicated that Sean McVay has flat out said, this sounds like there's a chance of play this weekend.
29:38Something about that situation is not passing the smell test for me.
29:41Yep. I'm with you on that. We'll figure out.
29:44We'll have a better picture of that after practice today.
29:46I want to ask you about Tedaroa McMillan last week.
29:49Jalen Coker kind of got banged up. He did.
29:52Dealing with some stuff. Are you feeling about both Tedaroa?
29:54I guess you could put both of them in there.
29:57If you want to, Tedaroa and Jalen. Yeah. We'll keep an eye on Jalen Coker status.
30:01Sounds like he's probably iffy for Sunday night, but we will discuss that further based off practice information for the next three days.
30:08Have you guys heard this? Alliance really struggled defensively.
30:10Thanks, Phil. Do you know how many passing yards per game they're currently allowing?
30:14No, I don't. 700. Okay. Okay. Close. Over 299.
30:16Oof. That's basically 700. It's the worst. If it holds up, it's the worst over the past decade.
30:21I mean, it's, it's rare to see teams allow over 275 and they're at nearly 300 passing yards per game.
30:27Sample size is small. Obviously a lot of football to go, but not a lot of reasons for optimism as we discussed earlier on.
30:33I have won a Superbowl that have allowed almost 300 passing yards a game.
30:37I guess zero. That's not good for my future then.
30:40I'm going to guess that. Yeah. It worked. Is there an answer?
30:43They already benched a corner. Maybe that'll be better.
30:46Maybe that'll help. Maybe that'll help. We brought you seen bench.
30:49Yeah. Who could have seen that coming? It's like the Packers offensive line in the Lions cornerback room.
30:53You could have seen those. At least the Packers though, are just signing all available offensive linemen on free.
30:59Amazing overhaul. Anyways, two wide receivers have already put up 26.7 or more fantasy points against this Lions team.
31:04That was Chris Olave in week one, Garrett Wilson last week.
31:07It's kind of funny how Josh Allen put up over 40 against the Bills, and there was no wide receiver at even 12 fantasy points.
31:14Dalton Kincaid had a big day. Yes. Josh Allen had a big day himself.
31:17It was kind of a sort of divvy it up.
31:20That was a game that DJ Moore got hurt.
31:23So wide receivers can have themselves. Yeah. Sorry. Can have until today against the Lions.
31:27So on Sunday night, I told you guys, I'm checking to see whether the Lions will ever play in a bad weather day.
31:33I went and opened up the app. Charlotte, Saturday and Sunday is supposed to get a lot of rain.
31:38It's supposed to stop before kickoff. So it looks like by the time kickoff is around, rain will be no issue.
31:44Good. Which even if rain were prevalent for the game, I still would have a hard time not starting Ted O'Rowell-McMillan against Daniels Lions.
31:51He's my wide receiver 10 this week, which is exactly where Daniel is and five spots ahead of him.
31:56Yeah, I'm a hair lower, but a lot of names in that vicinity.
31:59And Jalen Coker, if he is healthy, we have him as a top 20 option.
32:03He'd be in the light of the world. All the things that you had talked about.
32:08Bryson Tremaine, flag that name as a possible Raheem Sanders pick for this week.
32:12Like it. Mike, where are you going with this one?
32:14I'm going with Rushy Rice. Going the right direction.
32:17You know, he just had to get me burned from the knockout league in week one.
32:21And then he started playing football. He tried though.
32:24He did score that one touchdown on one of his two targets in week one.
32:28But guys, he's another guy who missed a lot of time in the off season.
32:32Who's trending up over the first few weeks of the season.
32:35It seemed like there was intent there to not really use him a lot.
32:39He was on the field a lot, but not target him the first couple of games.
32:43It was just like, why is he not the first read at all?
32:46That was especially the case in week one. Still found the end zone.
32:50Week two ramped up to four for 83 on six targets.
32:53But last week, finally, even in a very low volume game, seven for 88 on nine targets.
32:58He had a 39% target share against the dolphins.
33:00Career high usage this year and snaps at 79% and route participation.
33:0375%. He's been around a while on a per game basis.
33:06He's never hit numbers like that. So that's a good step forward for, um, Rashi rice at they're playing the Raiders.
33:12I will say this. They've allowed the third fewest fantasy points to receivers.
33:16It's a little bit of a trap. They haven't allowed a touchdown to a receiver yet.
33:20They have a lot of five passing touchdowns. It just happened to, they haven't happened to go to a receiver.
33:26That'll correct itself going forward. And even without a score, Chris Olave, 19.7 points against them last week.
33:30Caleb Douglas at 14.4 against him. So number ones have, uh, had decent success even without finding the end zone.
33:36So feeling really good about Rashi rice, not going to get them into the wide receiver one mix just yet.
33:41I want to see it another week, but he is at least a very good wide receiver too at this point.
33:47And you know, it doesn't seem like it's happening.
33:50Xavier worthy. Ever. Yeah. My gosh. Yeah. They, he looked, he looked good week one.
33:54And, but I, again, I think that was just a factor of like, we're not using rice yet.
33:59And now it's kind of faded away a little bit.
34:01What was the line in week one? I still, you know, I feel like it's, I only have a little bit of his line in week one.
34:09Yeah. For Xavier worthy. He was featured. I think he saw a lot of targets, right?
34:13They were, they seem to be trying to utilize him a lot.
34:16Six targets, three catches for 18 yards. Yeah. So then it wasn't like production wasn't there, but the effort to get him,
34:22the football was there next week, seven targets, five catches, 25 yards and a touchdown.
34:26Yeah. I mean, then only two targets. I was watching rice very closely in that week, one game because I had, I
34:32was in jeopardy of losing a knockout. Right. So in the past, Rasheed rice and run them quick slants and stuff.
34:38They would do everything they can to get him the football.
34:41They were doing that with worthy out of the gate in that game.
34:45They weren't doing it with right. So interesting. That was, that was the notable change.
34:49But again, that changed last week and that's a good sign going forward.
34:52Do you guys, when you're talking about a player and his career, if a player does something in the, in the, in
34:58the playoffs, you count that when like, remember last year with, Hey, Matthew golden did not score a single touchdown.
35:04It was a playoff game. Xavier worthy. When, when, when appropriate.
35:07Yes. Xavier worthy has zero career, a hundred yard games.
35:10Unless you count the super bowl. When he, in garbage time.
35:13That's crazy. In garbage time. I was, in the bleachers at that point.
35:16I mean, that was, it was over. I mean, I was like, good, good.
35:201.5. Savvy bees. Literally more than that. More than that.
35:23That was a, that was a tricky one. Cause I was enjoying that, but I also, I had the, I was, I
35:29had the sore throat cause I was getting the flu or not the flu.
35:32I was getting like, whatever, uh, an illness, a cold or some sort.
35:36So, you know, it's often starts with the sore throat.
35:39And I had that during that game. Uh, so I was, yeah, terrible.
35:42You were like, you know what? Honestly, like you're sitting there talking to your girlfriend.
35:46You're like, maybe we just don't go to the game.
35:49Yeah. You know, Superbowl, right? Like maybe they'll play in the hall of fame game next year.
35:54We can go to that instead. No way. No way.
35:56That was, uh, I was battling through that. It was, that was amazing.
36:00But yeah, I remember, uh, worthy scoring right in front of us twice in the late in that game, but, um, didn't matter at that point.
36:07The game was way over with. Why don't you get a shout out to a little shout out to you, field Jates.
36:13Oh, Christian Watson's been your guy to start the season.
36:16He's been really good for what it's worth. Rushing it.
36:19Great volume. Great, great volume. Wide receiver, six in targets, 12th and receptions, fifth and receiving yards, third and receiving touchdowns.
36:24The running game doesn't work in green Bay, which is great.
36:27If you have a Christian Watson guy on your roster, he's been fantastic from that perspective.
36:32It seems like it's going to be another condensed target tree.
36:35I'm assuming hasn't officially been ruled out, but we're very doubtful to see Jaden read this week.
36:39So it should be Matthew golden and Tucker craft.
36:42Tucker craft. Hasn't really materialized the way that we were thinking he may at the earlier parts of the season.
36:47So it's really just him and Matthew golden. They're taken on Tampa Bay.
36:51Tampa Bay just allowed 20 fantasy points to Denzel Boston, 20 fantasy points to Jordan Addison.
36:55The only team they haven't allowed 20 fantasy points to a wide receiver too, is actually the Cincinnati Bengals with two months.
37:01But, um, I think right now, Christian Watson locked in as a wide receiver too, with that volume and the way that that offense is playing.
37:08He is the guy that everything is running through.
37:11I know we've said this a million times about him.
37:13Just got to stay healthy. And if he does, he'll probably be as long as he's top 20 for wider.
37:19By the way, Packers pass heaviest offense in the NFL.
37:22That's a little bit of, it's actually a lot of bit of game script.
37:25They, to your, I remember you talking about this.
37:28I was a little more hesitant on it based on Matt Lofler's track record, but they're calling the pass heaviest offense in
37:34the NFL and their game scripts have been very beneficial for the past because they've been trailing.
37:39They've had to throw a lot. So they've called past 73% of the time.
37:42That's easily number one in the league. It'll come down, but for now, as long as Josh Jacobs is out, it might not come down by a lot.
37:50Yeah. Kind of a mess. Let's go to our tight ends to wrap things up here.
37:54We're going to do a couple of questions for us really quickly.
37:58I lied. Wide receivers from our YouTube chat. Shout out to red alert.
38:01206 wants to know half point PPR. Josh downs or scary Terry in the flex.
38:05Gary Terry. For sure. Great matchup. Scary Terry. Scary Terry.
38:08Uh, they're both is not his nickname. Uh, I'm on, I'm on downs.
38:12I have them very close, but I'm more optimistic than you guys on Josh down.
38:16Just the volume is huge. And then remember they're playing Washington.
38:19They've allowed the most fantasy points to receiver so far.
38:21All right. Great spot. Great goalie wants to know David Montgomery or lad McConkie in the Montgomery for me.
38:27Lad tough matchup against Seattle. I don't love Seattle.
38:29That's a tough call. I'll lean towards Montgomery and hope he finds the end zone.
38:33That's what I'm doing too. Open Monty falls into the painted area.
38:36Last one here. Hoodie Squanch wants to know cooker or a coker or Boston.
38:40I'd be Jalen Coker. If he's healthy. Yeah. Coker.
38:43If he's healthy, obviously you have to pivot off of him.
38:46If he's not going to play, but that we agreed that one Sunday night.
38:50So that might be a tricky one. I think we'll have clarity.
38:53I hope. Oh, I'm sorry. Cause the Browns play Thursday.
38:56Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. So even think about that part of it.
38:59If there's a legitimate question mark, if we go DMP, DNP for Jalen Coker, you play Denzel Boston.
39:04I think so. If we go, if there's any practice from Jalen Coker Wednesday or Thursday, I'm going Jalen Coker.
39:09Yeah. And keep an eye. I mean, if you could find a similar option, I mean, yeah, yeah, you could.
39:15Darren Waller. That's what I mean. Maybe you could find another option too.
39:18Cause remember Boston is going up against the Steelers.
39:21I mean, that's a tough defense. So definitely. You're definitely a chance of a dud there.
39:25That makes me a little nervous. Let's dive into some tight ends.
39:28Let's do it. Speaking of which. Top 10 tight ends.
39:31Trey McBride, Brock Bowers, George Kittle, Tyler Warren, Travis Kelsey.
39:34That is the top five, six through 10. Sam Laporta famously played college ball for the Atlanta Hawkeyes.
39:39Isaiah likely Dalton Cade, Harold Fainer Jr. And Jawan Johnson.
39:41You say the Atlanta Hawkeyes. Oh, you know, you got to read the news.
39:45Don't Mike. Just let's, let's just keep moving on guys.
39:48Let's talk about Brock Bowers. He looked great last week.
39:51That's my pick for tight end this week. Give it to me field.
39:54I, unlike you guys have a missed tight end one.
39:57Wow. That's embarrassing for you. Eric Moody as well.
39:59Has a missed tight end one because he knows ball.
40:02Oh, we have, we must have Trey McBride as tight end one.
40:05Is that what it is? Is he good? I don't, you want to do a board?
40:10Has he done anything the last couple of years?
40:12I don't know. How many, what like level of wide receiver is off the table in a trade for, for Brock Bowers?
40:18Right now. And that's me. I wouldn't trade him for chase.
40:21I wouldn't trade chase for him. So no JSN, no chase.
40:24Uh, Amon Ra. I'm going to lean. Yeah. I'd keep on.
40:27Again, that's positioned in your. Yep. Once you get into the CD lamb, Drake, yeah, I'm not trading Puka for him.
40:33Yeah. Probably the London tier is where, okay. So we're getting like past CD lamb and Justin Jefferson.
40:38I think right in that vicinity. Wide receiver eight through 10 range.
40:41Maybe. All right. I, you guys picked two already.
40:44There's not much to say about Trey McBride. I thought I would just take a moment to appreciate the ridiculousness that was
40:50Brock Bowers yesterday and do a stock check of just like rest of season, how valuable he is, not just compared to
40:56tight ends, but compared to other elite playmakers. And I think if you're a wide receiver, which he has been deployed as
41:02a wide receiver in that Las Vegas offense, he'd probably be somewhere between like wide receiver seven or eight.
41:07I agree with you. He's amazing. Yeah. Let's just hope their defense is not legit.
41:11And comes back to earth a little. Cause that's just going to, we want those, look, they play 4 p.m.
41:164 p.m. Eastern every week. And we love just watching Bowers just soak up second half targets.
41:21Just keep them coming all year long. Amen, baby.
41:23What kind of a, let's say that you've got Brock Bowers and you were going to consider, would you ever move him?
41:29Or at this point, would you be like, I would only, only want to acquire Brock Bowers.
41:34I mean, there's a world in which you snagged Alton Kinkade off of waivers.
41:38I was going to say, what tight end would you have to have on your roster behind Brock Bowers to consider making a move?
41:45Third into one. I mean, look, if you, yeah.
41:47So would, would he be high enough for you?
41:49I mean, look, if you have Kinkade or one of those other guys and you can move Bowers, someone will give you
41:55Jamar Chase or Amonra or Jefferson or like, and you need a receiver.
41:59Yeah. And you've got a tight end. I mean, you can certainly make the case.
42:03They're going to be similar or better. I would need someone better.
42:06I think than Harold Fannin, but I don't know.
42:09How do you feel about him this week? Uh, yeah, I actually thought you would start with him because we were just
42:15talking about this game, but I mean, I'm sorry.
42:17You know, it's still the preseason. Right. I'm starting with the guy that's ranked the highest and then moving up.
42:23I apologize. yeah. Harold Fannin, terrific game last week.
42:25We needed that after a slow start seven for 51 and two touchdowns on nine targets.
42:30Remember, he had the dud in week one, just 21 yards on three targets.
42:33Yep. Week two, a little better five for 54 and that one in six targets.
42:37It felt like still not a tight end one yet.
42:40It's a little nervous, but then of course, uh, exploded in week three.
42:44Um, you know, what's interesting about him is this is a little surprising, but his snaps and route participation are up big time from last year.
42:51And he was outstanding. I felt like he was an out there, out there every play last year.
42:56I know David and joke was involved for half the season, but, um, target shares actually up a little bit from last year as well.
43:03The key here is how well does Deshaun Watson play?
43:05Can he keep this going? He's been tough match.
43:08It was the Browns tomorrow night. Yeah, he was okay.
43:10Week one, he was played pretty well weeks two and three.
43:13And then, uh, yeah, this week is going to be, you know, huge.
43:17They're at home, but they're playing the Steelers to your point.
43:20We'll talk more about this one tomorrow. Uh, the Steelers did leave Mike, uh, Mike is sick.
43:25He opened for a touchdown last week. So there is that, I guess, in his defense for me, fan in a fringe tight end one guys.
43:32I'm not talking about a tight end inside the top 10, but I do have them ranked as a top 10 tight end.
43:38Okay. And that is Darren Waller, the baller, interesting.
43:41That's an aggressive rank. I like it. You guys have them at tight end 24.
43:45I've got them at 10. Um, I just want to throw up a full screen.
43:49I asked our production team to build looking at what tight ends have done against the lion so far this year.
43:54And I'll kind of lay it out to our audio listeners.
43:57Juwan Johnson, 14.2 fantasy points scored a touchdown. Noah fan, 13.3 fantasy points.
44:01Also in week one, also scored a touchdown. Don't Kincaid, 22.5 in week two, scored a touchdown.
44:06Dawson Knox, eight and a half. Also in week two, also scored a touchdown.
44:09Kenyon Sadiq, 23 and a half, scored a touchdown in week three.
44:13Jeremy Ruckert, 14.9 also scored a touchdown in week three.
44:15They have allowed five of these six tight ends on this screen to be top 10 in fantasy football in the weeks
44:21that they have played the Detroit Lions. They've only played three games.
44:25Correct. Juwan Johnson and Noah Fant were both top 10 tight ends in fantasy and Kenyon Sadiq and Jeremy Ruckert were both top 10 tight ends in fantasy.
44:32Obviously, don't think Kade was as well in week two.
44:35It's really amazing. Do you think there's like, what is behind this?
44:38Is it just randomness through three weeks? That's a great question.
44:41that's what? Six of the nine touchdowns. Is that right?
44:44Six of the nine touchdowns have gone to tight ends.
44:47I mean, yeah, I mean, certainly that ratio is going to probably fix itself, but it's still.
44:51Is it? They just have such poor safety play right now.
44:54Not that safety are exclusively responsible for tight ends.
44:57We don't also have our linebackers. Aren't notably, uh, always great in coverage.
45:00You know, we don't always have the best linebackers from a coverage perspective.
45:04I love our lover guy in the middle, but, um, yeah, allowing the most yards in the NFL, most receptions in the
45:10NFL and most touchdowns per game in the NFL.
45:13They're the type. I love this. This is a great, great stat by you.
45:16Great, great ranking. Yeah. This is interesting. It's also, I mean, Darren Waller did see a big jump in targets last week,
45:22but it's still, he's still only playing half the snap.
45:25So two touchdowns in week two and eight targets and eight targets, by the way, with no jail and Coker in, in week three, by the way.
45:32So like if Coker, the cause that definitely helped.
45:35That would help. So if he is going to be out this week, it would definitely boost him.
45:40And that's part of why I have him there.
45:42But even against I, like if every single one of those touchdown or tight end scored a touchdown against the Detroit lions,
45:48every single one of them that we had on this screen.
45:51So like, I think Darren Waller is fine in the end zone and maybe a spoiler alert for who I may pick for a long shot this week.
45:59Ooh. Yeah. Not Waller, but well, now you're tipping your hand.
46:02Well, if you guys want to go ahead and be bullies and take it, I'm trembling about what you, who you might.
46:08Wow. Good job, Mike. Pressed by you. Mitchell, Mitchell Evans.
46:11Yeah, buddy. Good job, buddy. Got some options. I love you.
46:14Should we just all pick a Panthers? How many?
46:16Do they have four on the roster? They should.
46:19Everyone takes a Panthers. Mitchell Evans. Tommy Tremble. Yeah.
46:21That's it. Is there, let's see. Let's see. I think they have a rookie, Oh, they have five.
46:26Yeah. Cause they have, maybe they'll all score. Fabian Sanders.
46:29Yeah. He hasn't played yet though. Philippe Franks. Who's the quarterback.
46:32Maybe he could throw one. He used to be a quarterback.
46:35So he's become a sweet special teams player. Yeah.
46:37Love that. All right. Let's do our fantasy face-off.
46:40Expand to the people. That's right. Guys. Field, you're going to be the judge.
46:43Mike and I are going to bring two guys to the table.
46:47Suits, judge fields, Yates. Do we have any images of you in a suit?
46:51One time. Oh, I wore a suit when I officiated our buddy, Damian Dabrowski's wedding.
46:55That's right. Yes. That's really it. The thing is you looked awesome in a suit.
46:59Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate it. You know who else looks awesome?
47:03Kyler Murray taking on the Miami dolphins. We already talked about it a bunch guys, but here's the deal.
47:08We're going to give a bunch of players, two players, Mike and I are going to give a player back and forth.
47:14I'm going to say why I would start this guy.
47:16Mike would say why he would start the other guy.
47:19Fields, you get to choose in between who would you choose in the fantasy faceoff conversation?
47:24Dig it. I'm going with Kyler Murray against the Miami dolphins.
47:27You already laid out the conversation earlier. Actually, can I have your notes?
47:30I'll just read that again. If you don't give them to him.
47:33You're helping. No, this is great. This is fantastic.
47:36So Kyler, That's mine. He's terrible. They have zero sacks this season.
47:39Did you guys know that? Quarterbacks are allowing 80.3% of passes to be completed to them.
47:439.1 yards allowed per attempt. Honestly, one of the things that I wanted to say that I didn't when you were giving
47:49your analysis field, the other quarterbacks, not everyone has had huge games against Miami, to be honest.
47:54Okay. But what those other teams have had are real running backs.
47:57It was the 49ers who had CMC. It was the Chiefs who had Ken Walker, the third, and it was the Raiders who had Ashton Jenty.
48:04I don't think that Aaron Jones is in that same level of running back.
48:08And so because of that, I still expect the Vikings to be doing quite a bit of offense in this one, which
48:14means if it's not coming from the running back, like I did with the other three teams that played there, I just
48:20think that Kyler is going to get a little bit more than the other quarterbacks saw the previous three weeks.
48:26So that's why I am in on Kyler because of the matchup.
48:29And if I'm out, then I get burned by Kyler Murray.
48:32Wow. Mr. Clay. Yeah. I'm going to take this guy, Patrick Mahomes.
48:35Have you heard of him? He seems like he's pretty good at football.
48:39Yeah. I'm going to roll with him. He's actually done something this season and last season.
48:43I mean, he was even better than him last season.
48:46Kyler Murray last score, 19 fantasy points in a game in 2024.
48:49It's been that long since he's had a really good fantasy game.
48:53Mahomes was top 10 in the first two weeks of the season.
48:56Didn't have to throw much last week against the Miami dolphins, who your quarterback is facing.
49:00And the dolphins have held two quarterbacks now under 16 fantasy points because teams do not have to throw the ball against them.
49:06So that's a concern with Murray. Whereas Mahomes, you know what you're getting.
49:10He's been so productive. Fifth and passing yards, fifth and passing touchdowns.
49:13Also as a rushing touchdown, they're playing the Raiders who allowed 17 to Malik Willis.
49:17Yep. They'll add 24 to your guy, Tyler Shuck.
49:20Yep. I mean, why even mess around with Kyler Murray this week?
49:23It doesn't make sense. I do want to say, and maybe I'm, I might be wrong on this.
49:28I don't think the rushing that we saw, in week one, that touchdown, like you take away his rushing touchdown.
49:33I know that's not the way fantasy works. He had 15 fantasy points.
49:37Okay. Kyler Murray is two carries for 17 yards.
49:39And in week three, Patrick Mahomes, again, had 15 fantasy points.
49:42when Patrick Mahomes isn't doing the rushing stuff that he did last season, he's an average fantasy quarterback.
49:47He's top five in passing yards and touchdowns. I don't think it's going to sustain.
49:51Very different approaches from the two of you. Daniel, I'm an emotional fantasy ranker.
49:55I was still in the courtroom as well. Like you much more appeal to like, you know, the humanity side.
50:01Yes. Mike tries to bully his way into an argument win.
50:04And it worked. Patrick Mahomes is my pick. It's hard.
50:06How do you, how do you pick against Patrick?
50:09I don't know. he's right over your shoulder. Look at that imagery.
50:12Like, how do you? It's true. All right. We'll go running back.
50:16I'll let you go first. Then Mike, maybe the problem is I led with a bad argument.
50:20Maybe you can stumble, fumble off the top. Yeah.
50:23This one's going to be a lot tighter for sure.
50:25We're going to be talking about Irving. I'm making the case for Bucky Irving.
50:29You're making the case for your guy, chase Brown here.
50:32Um, I love what I've seen from Bucky so far.
50:35He is top 15 at running back and touches yards and fantasy, fantasy points so far.
50:39Also second and catches among running backs, which is obviously going to bring your floor up at least 15 touches in all
50:45three games, 90 plus yards in two of the three games.
50:48And the exception was the Vikings elite run defense last week.
50:51So, uh, that's not the case against the Packers this week.
50:54They've allowed six touchdowns and the second most fantasy points to running back so far, even if they roll back, they rolled
51:00back Irving usage a little bit last week, and he still was, uh, productive against a good defense.
51:05So, give me Bucky Irving here over chase Brown, who by the way has been under 11 fantasy points now in two consecutive games, Daniel.
51:12So chase Brown, while being under 11 fantasy points in two consecutive games, it's tough when you lead my argument with a negative stat.
51:18I have other negatives. Do you know what I mean?
51:21No, no, no. I didn't actually want you to lead in in the first place.
51:25There's a lot of them here. Here's the thing about chase Brown.
51:28Have you guys watched the Tampa Bay Buccaneers play football this year?
51:32My gosh, that team is terrible. Yeah. Do you think that without Baker Mayfield out there, you're just going to give the
51:38football to Bucky Irving and defenses aren't just going to swarm the box and be like, sure, we're going to let this guy beat us.
51:44No, let the quarterback beat you with his arm.
51:47Chase Brown plays on an offense that could easily score 30 points a game every single week of the season, even though
51:53last week and the week before was not great.
51:55Here's what he did do. He had 21 touches in week one.
51:59He had 23 touches in week two last week, 15 against a tough Pittsburgh defense.
52:03That's part of the defense that you can run up against with the Pittsburgh Steelers in their same division.
52:08Sometimes no way against the Jacksonville Jaguars. I understand also another good defense, but there's no way with what this offense is
52:14and the quarterback, they're going to have under center and what they will look like versus the Bucks with a backup quarterback.
52:20There's no way I'm starting Bucky Irving over Chase Brown with everything that Chase Brown.
52:24So wait, the Jags are allowing 3.1 yards per carry to running back.
52:28So it's probably going to slow him on the ground.
52:30Numbers are going to help your argument. And the, and the, and Chase Brown over the last two weeks is a total of 10 receiving yards.
52:37So where's he getting the production from? So not on the ground, not in the, in the passing game.
52:43I have to give Daniel credit because that was a much better effort to persuade on that.
52:47Like you appeal with like a little bit more zest and vigor.
52:51Yeah. But still not enough. Bucky is the guy that I'm starting.
52:54Dang it, Mike is 2-0. Let's wrap it up with wide receivers.
52:57All right. The problem, the only piece of advice is like you make really good points and then you're like, yeah, I
53:03know the Jacksonville like is like a whatever. I want it because I want to be, Oh, don't be honest.
53:09No, don't be honest. That's the problem with lawyers.
53:11There's no objectivity. I give you my side and I don't give you the other side.
53:15I let you bring up the other side. By the way, are you picking, are you picking the guy you've ranked higher?
53:21Are you just like, are you just going off of argument?
53:24Okay. Vibes. I like that. All right. I like that.
53:27That's good. Exactly. Yeah. We're going to, we're going to rotate every week.
53:31So I want to see how I should approach this in the future.
53:34I'm the judge. Okay. Last one. Last one. A wide receiver.
53:37You'll go first or second. It's up to you.
53:40I want to go second again. Okay. Mike is bringing Lad McConkie to the table.
53:44I'm talking Luther Burden, the third. Yeah. So it's a guy.
53:47This is a tricky one. A guy you love versus a guy I didn't love.
53:51You hate. This is a tricky one. Yeah. So this is a tricky one for sure.
53:55But give me Lad McConkie here. I'm still buying in on him.
53:59Remember, he only played half the game in week one, had five catches for 82 yards and a touchdown.
54:04Week two, only played half the snaps. Did have a dud coming off the injury.
54:08We didn't know if he was going to play in that one.
54:11Smart. Last week, back to a full-time role, put up 66 yards in that game.
54:15He's still, I know that offense has been bad, but he has been very busy.
54:19Last week against Seattle, Terry McLaren put up almost 20 fantasy points, 19.7.
54:23So maybe the number one receiver can do something against this defense.
54:26And I'm still a little hesitant on, on the other side of this with Luther Burden, a little hesitant on if Case Keenum could do it again.
54:33Look, Burden is averaging 6.8 yards per target this season.
54:36So the volume is better last week, but the efficiency has not been.
54:40They're playing the Jets. Do you know that only one wide receiver has reached 12 fantasy points?
54:44I want to go with Amon Ross. Against the Jets?
54:47No, it's your boy Christian Watson. Yeah. It was 14 points.
54:50That's the most put up in a game against the Jets.
54:53So Burden might have his, his hands full here.
54:56So give, give the edge to, uh, the guy thinks the better, more polished player now healthy.
55:00Finally in, in, Ladd McConkie. Burden's got his hands full.
55:03That means he's got a lot of balls in him.
55:06So it's going to be a lot of opportunities guys.
55:08Is that the whole argument? No, hold on. I think I got more.
55:12Hold on. I think I got more. Uh, Luther Burden guys, 11 targets last week, by the way, did you even watch any of the chargers games?
55:19There's no way that you're like talking about how Luther Burden is like maybe played poorly or something about this bears offense.
55:25If you didn't watch the chargers games, then you would be talking about Ladd McConkie.
55:29Like he was actually good at football, but the offense is awful.
55:33There was nothing to write home about. There's no reason for optimism in this offense.
55:37There is reason for optimism around Luther Burden though, because 11 targets last week, seven for 61 and a touchdown clearly coming on.
55:43I'm not buying the Tyson Bajan thing. It's him and Case Keenum.
55:46He clearly looked like the guy. And in this offense, Roma Dunze out, not even thinking about starting Roma Dunze.
55:52But when I look at vibes and the way that these offenses are rolling, I don't care about the Jets defense.
55:58I don't care about any of that. I would rather have the guy that has been doing things, 11 targets, something that
56:04makes me feel like I can build off of rather than right now, if I'm starting Ladd McConkie, I have no confidence.
56:10I have zero confidence in Ladd because we're playing the Seattle Seahawks.
56:13We have gone up against a bunch of cake matchups and I've done nothing in them except for the first game.
56:19That was three games ago. That doesn't help me in week four, Michael.
56:22All right. So Daniel absolutely does a much better job with each round that goes by.
56:26He's getting angrier and making your arguments. But that's, that's more persuasive.
56:30However, Oh, I hate the however. Was it persuasive enough?
56:32Yes. burden it is. Well done. That was the toughest case to make.
56:36That really was. Yeah. That was a tough one.
56:38It doesn't feel good to start Ladd McConkie right now, but also is he the most talented wide receiver in this range
56:44of wide receivers around 25 to 35? Probably. I mean, there are some really talented players there.
56:49Jameson Williams is like way down there. Super talented.
56:52Like there's a bunch of guys this year. So there are.
56:55That's the hard part. All right. Fun times. Field, you did good as a judge.
56:59I didn't have to do much. It was great.
57:01Yeah. Judge Judy and execution. For the record, I'm up two to one.
57:05We're keeping track of all of these. Will there be any clean sweeps this year?
57:09I don't know. Find out. It's very important that we don't just try to be like, all right, he got two.
57:15So he gets one now as long as we keep it objective.
57:18Yeah. Guys, we are doing our Wednesday random ranking.
57:20We love the chat for this. It's always been a ton of fun.
57:24Make sure if you are in chat or if you're not, you come and hang out on the Wednesday show and let
57:30us know what your top rankings are. Today it is worst fictional movie or TV show plot to be stuck in.
57:36Worst fictional movie or TV show plot to be stuck in.
57:39No true crimes. No, yeah. Documentaries, anything like that.
57:41Yep. Who wants to go first? You both looked at me, so I'll go first.
57:45I've been going first the last couple times. My third one is Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.
57:50Oh, that was on my list. For real? Yeah.
57:52Just being shrunk down. That'd be scary. What if he can't come back?
57:56I was just saying. It was on my, yeah, it was on my, it was on my short list of movies to consider.
58:02You know, a comedy too, so it's fun, but also a great movie to go back and watch too.
58:07But that would be a nightmare to be. It'd be terrible.
58:10Yeah, to be that small. You're shrunk down. Realistically, you would just be gone immediately.
58:14Yes. You get eaten by a bug or something, it'd be over with.
58:18When you see like those giant pants, like walking by, you're like, yeah, it'd be terrible.
58:22Yeah, the giant oatmeal pie sandwich in that movie.
58:25Those are great movies. Think about that. It would take you like a week and a half to eat it all.
58:30It'd be very satisfying. A week and a half?
58:33That's it. Depends how small you are, I guess.
58:35Don't ants eat fast? Yeah, but you're not an ant.
58:38I mean, you're just shrunk. You're just going to accidentally shrunk.
58:41Oh, fast eater. That's fair. All right. All right.
58:43That's my three. Are we doing them all or are we going?
58:47No, no, no. Oh, number three for me? Yeah, do three for you.
58:50This is pretty modern. This is very much in vogue right now.
58:54Okay. Not a blood guy. The Pit. Have you guys watched The Pit?
58:57I have not. I have not watched it yet, but I've heard.
59:00Everybody loves it. Everybody says it's an amazing show.
59:03I've only seen bits and pieces. That's not where you would thrive.
59:06The blood. Not for me. I'm out. I'm out.
59:09Apparently, of all the medical shows, it's considered the most realistic.
59:12Sure. Oh, yeah, just showing up to work today.
59:14All I have to do is suture together in open hearts.
59:17Not for me. I'm out. That's fair. Fields' life so good is nightmare scenarios being a doctor.
59:22Like, flumming it as a doctor. You want to be, that's his nightmare scenario.
59:26Do you want to be playing with like intestines?
59:28I'm saving lives of children out here. I can't handle this, guys.
59:31No, but I mean, if you see the list of shows I have, it's like, well, my next two are a little
59:37more like, you know, just kind of goofy, but that first one, I just, I don't do blood well.
59:42My first one, yeah. My first one is, um, Lost.
59:45Damn it! Oh, good one. That was my number one pick.
59:48Was it? Yes! Shield, I'm so sorry. Or let's talk about it.
59:51Yeah. Do you know how confusing that show is?
59:54I have no idea what happened. It ended 25 years ago and none of us know.
59:58You're on an island. And by the way, there's, your plane crashed.
60:02I got to be a part of a plane crash probably.
60:05That sucks. That's not great. You're on an island.
60:07There's a polar bear, a smoke monster. It's not Penny's boat.
60:10There's others. And there's a hatch with a bunch of numbers that we did.
60:14Like, there's, it never makes sense. And I would, oh, field, take over.
60:17My brain just short-circuted. So I don't know, like if for shows that last for like, you know, season upon season upon
60:23season, I don't know how much foresight there is.
60:26Like when friends is going through their unbelievably dominant run, like when you're in the middle of season four, have you already mapped out five and six?
60:33Because the energy I got from lost was that like, it's the middle of season two.
60:38We don't know what's going to happen at the end of season two.
60:41They kind of like made the story up as it moved along.
60:44And that to me as a consumer was very confusing.
60:47My mind was all discombobulated. This is the unquestioned number one for me.
60:51Lost just threw me for a world many times over.
60:53I love that. Great show though. Yellow Jack is very similar.
60:56Might be worse in a similar circumstances. I don't know if you've seen that, but that's a wild.
61:01It's a wild. Similar, similar concept, but yeah. Shout out to our buddy, Daniel day Kim, by the way, one of the stars.
61:08That's right. Two for me is, this is a silly one, Truman Show.
61:11Oh man. Like your entire life, you're being watched.
61:14You're being watched, yeah. At all times, everything. Think about that, like you can't escape anything.
61:18Every, all the intimate parts of your life, everything.
61:20That'd be terrible. I wonder if that might be how life is now.
61:24What? Yeah. Sometimes it feels like we're being watched.
61:26Yeah, I mean, you're right. Yeah. You should read Dungeon Crawler Carl.
61:30Dungeon Crawler Carl? Yeah. Okay. It's a great book.
61:32It kind of like dives into a little bit of that.
61:35It's a very fun, fantastical book. It's a good series.
61:38All right. You've already gotten my number one. So Daniel, you can go to your.
61:42My number two is Jurassic Park. Yeah. Good one.
61:44Tough one. Because I love dinosaurs, but like that's, it's the opposite way of the way that you want to encounter the dinosaurs.
61:51It's just running and screaming and terror and all of that stuff.
61:54And you don't, you're not prepared for it. Like it would be terrible.
61:58So I could watch Jurassic Park, the original one, a hundred times a year.
62:01Yeah. Great movie. Just really want to be a part of it.
62:05I wouldn't want to be in the movie. No, it's a great movie to watch.
62:09Would never want to be in it. So that's my number two.
62:12All right. So my number one is loss. I'm not moving off that stance.
62:16That's fair. My number two though is Breaking Bad.
62:18Because it's just like a series of events that like, you know, are going to eventually end in a crash and burn scenario.
62:25Yeah. Your life is falling apart around you. Your wife is the absolute worst, right?
62:29I mean, Fields goes from being a doctor in one to making meth in the other.
62:33There's a big gap between one and two. Not like Walter White should be like, you know, he's not exactly like the
62:39poster child for like integrity and all that. There were some things he did along the way that were wrong, but it
62:45was just like every plan or every part of the plan he devised.
62:49It was like, all right, this is going to buy us a little bit more time until we step into another pile
62:55of crap a little bit later on. So Breaking Bad will be a very difficult place to be.
63:00Like it. Mine is, oh man, this one's, if you're our age, this one's going to bring it back in a bad way.
63:06Final destination. Oh yes. That's tough. Just knowing. Yes.
63:08What's coming down the line. All that moves over and over.
63:11Speaking like any Armageddon type show. Yeah. You can say that, but this one like you, it's just all those disasters.
63:17I mean, have you driven on a road and seen a truck, a tractor trailer with long logs on it and not thought about that movie?
63:24Like that's just. You wait for the one I changed to release and then it just comes flying.
63:29Absolutely. Speed up and get past this truck as fast as possible.
63:32Anytime you get into an elevator, you're like get in before the door closes.
63:36More like you walk on an escalator to go up at a mall.
63:40Malls used to be a thing that kids would go to back in our, when we were children.
63:45And there's a couple left out there. Yeah. So, um, do you have another one?
63:49Do you want to give your number? I want lost to be my number one, because that's how passionate.
63:54That's how passionate you are about it. Um, my number one movie, worst fictional movie or TV show plot to be a part of would be draft day.
64:02I have to work for the Cleveland Browns. Wow.
64:04That's shot through the heart. Sorry. They might win on Thursday night.
64:07Keith. I don't know. That is rude. They might win on Thursday night.
64:11What are you going to do then? I don't know.
64:14They're two in one. That's a good question. Yeah.
64:16Yeah. I have a, I have a couple honorable mentions.
64:19Bring it. Let's, let's do these first in case someone takes them.
64:22Days of our lives would suck. Just stuck in a crappy drama.
64:25I thought about golden girls. I thought about having that be on the list for what it's worth.
64:30The walking dead. I thought about that as well.
64:33The walking dead. Uh, that's amazing. Good one. Yep.
64:35That's such a great movie. In a way. It wouldn't be.
64:38You, we think it's fun cause it's a movie.
64:41Oh no. Jeff, Jeff C. Yeah. If you haven't seen the human centipede, you don't want to.
64:45I haven't seen that. No, no, you don't need to watch it.
64:48You don't need to. Starship troopers thought about that one as well.
64:52That one was real gross. That one was real gross.
64:54That was one of my honorable mentions. Yeah. That was, that was another good one.
64:59Yeah. The thing with saw though, is like, you have to do something bad to be even put in there.
65:04So it's like a weird one. Like you have to basically be a criminal or something.
65:08Uh, other ones for me, groundhog day. I thought about that.
65:11Uh, and the purge. That's another good one. You haven't watched the purge?
65:15No, what's the purge? Field. And a couple of those.
65:18Yeah. One, all crime is legal for one day.
65:20One day. All crime is legal. 24 hour period.
65:23It's a movie. It's a, there's a couple of three or four movies.
65:26Yeah. I gotta write this one down. Um, don't watch it with the kids.
65:30Fields like that's interesting to me. We should do that.
65:33I'm going to write my congressman. The purge. Let's go to the poll here.
65:37We set out a poll at the very beginning of the show, guys.
65:40Who is the toughest? Mike Clay. Thank you. Come on.
65:43That's right. You guys are the worst. You'll last.
65:45I love the field. You have 27% as the lowest.
65:48I wanted that in there just because I knew that was going to happen.
65:52That's hilarious. Recount. You know what though? But our demographic out there, everybody gets it, you know?
65:56That was good. Tough being a little tired, you know?
65:59Just tired. Thanks for hanging out with us today, guys.
66:02We're going to be back tomorrow. We're going to preview week four, dive into what will be Thursday night football and hang
66:08out with these Yahoo's a little bit longer for Mike and field.
66:11I'm not showing up to me. I am, Daniel.
66:14We love you guys. Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
66:18You deserve it. We'll see you guys tomorrow. That's a fine.
66:21You just learned that. You in the hole, six, oh, one, oh,