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🤔 Jalen Hurts’ ADP is TOO HIGH + Jefferson & Kittle: Draft or Pass?
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Aug 6, 2026
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Nico CollinsGeorge KittleIsiah PachecoJalen HurtsJayden HigginsJustin JeffersonMike EvansOmarion HamptonSaquon BarkleyTravis Kelce
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George Kittle
PositiveValue8:36
George Kittle is a strong value at his ADP of 95 (10th round). Despite a history of missing games due to his intense playing style, he has never averaged fewer than 12.7 fantasy points per game since his rookie season and leads all tight ends in touchdown grabs over the last five years. While he is recovering from a January Achilles injury, he is expected to be ready for Week 1, and his established chemistry with the quarterback makes him a better target than older veteran additions.
Insight pageIsiah Pacheco
PositiveSleeper16:16
Isaiah Pacheco is criminally overlooked as a handcuff with significant upside. While he lacks standalone value, he is positioned to take over as the lead back in a high-scoring offense if Jahmyr Gibbs were to miss time. He has RB3/flex appeal and should be rostered, with projections suggesting he could reach eight rushing touchdowns, mirroring the role David Montgomery held in Detroit.
Insight pageJalen Hurts
NegativeValue2:32
Jalen Hurts' ADP of 54.5 (6th round) is too high given his performance decline; he was the QB8 in fantasy points per game last year, passing efficiency dropped below 65%, and he had only one 300-yard passing game. His rushing production is also trending down, with 45 fewer carries than the previous year and a significant drop in rushing touchdowns, likely due to the 'tush push' becoming less effective and potentially being phased out under new offensive line coach Chris Cooper.
Insight pageJayden Higgins
PositiveValue21:06
Jaden Higgins is highlighted as an excellent late-round pick who is gaining buzz in camp as the de facto WR2. Apple Pay. Apply prefers drafting Higgins over Nico Collins due to his significantly lower ADP, noting that Higgins could step into a WR1 role if Collins misses time and could serve as a safety valve underneath in the Texans' offense.
Insight pageJustin Jefferson
NegativeValue5:27
Justin Jefferson is an incredible steal at his current ADP, which is the lowest it has ever been. Despite last year's finish as WR30 due to quarterback instability, he has maintained a 30% target share throughout his career and ranks as the WR5 in fantasy points per game over his six-year career. While there is some concern about Kyler Murray's ability to push the ball downfield, Jefferson's consistent volume and talent make him a high-upside pick at the turn of the first and second rounds.
Insight pageMike Evans
NegativeValue28:50
Mike Evans is considered a poor value in the third round but a solid target at his current ADP of 90.0 (9th-10th round). Apple Pay. Apply notes concerns regarding his age (turning 33), recent quadriceps injury, and potential decline, but acknowledges his ability to provide high-value volume in the end zone.
Insight pageNico Collins
NegativeInjury19:00
Nico Collins carries significant injury risk, having never played a full season in his five-year career. He has a history of recurring lower-body injuries, including hamstring issues, a calf strain, and a foot injury, alongside multiple concussions. His inability to stay on the field makes him a risky choice as a fantasy WR1.
Insight pageNegativeInjury19:42
Nico Collins carries significant health concerns due to a history of recurring injuries, including hamstring issues, a calf strain, a foot injury, and a shoulder injury that landed him on IR in three of his five NFL seasons. Apple Pay. Apply expresses worry about his durability and the overall Texans offense, noting that if he is drafted as a WR1, his health is a major risk factor.
Insight pageOmarion Hampton
PositiveValue26:42
Omarion Hampton is ranked as the RB8, slightly ahead of Saquon Barkley (RB9). Apple Pay. Apply favors Hampton for his higher ceiling and proven ability as both a runner and a pass-catcher in the Chargers' offense, comparing his potential usage to Devon H's role under Mike McDaniel.
Insight pageSaquon Barkley
NegativeValue26:42
Saquon Barkley is ranked as the RB9, just behind Omarion Hampton. While he offers a safer floor than Hampton due to the Eagles' proven offensive line, Apple Pay. Apply notes that the team may lean more on the ground game during a passing game transition season, with Barkley projected for 250 carries.
Insight pageTravis Kelce
NegativeProjection13:11
Travis Kelce is trending downward, with his fantasy points per game dropping from 18.2 four years ago to 10.4 last year. He has not hit 1,000 receiving yards or double-digit touchdowns in three consecutive seasons. With the Chiefs prioritizing Rasheed Rice and Xavier Worthy, Kelce's role is diminishing, and he is now viewed as a low-end TE1 with limited ceiling compared to younger tight ends.
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Episode Transcript
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0:33So he leads the position in touchdowns even though he's missed all of that time.
0:38All that time. Hey, I'm Liz Loza, this is Facts vs.
0:41Feelings and today's fact is that ADP is not gospel.
0:44Daniel Dopp! Liz Loza! We're in the same box!
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0:54It's the best, right? Love being able to be here with you in studio.
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1:09Feelings with me every single week? My favorite thing every week is Facts vs.
1:13Feelings and now I get to improve that enjoyment.
1:16Stop. 6x. Pshh. Alright, let's dive into then. What the ADP.
1:19Liz, we've been mock drafting for months at this point.
1:22We have. A lot. I'm kind of mock drafted out, but it's a part of the job.
1:27Don't say that out loud. They're going to come get you.
1:30I know, we'll get more. I know. They're going to put you in a different kind of box if you talk like that.
1:37You love mock drafting, Daniel. I love mock drafting.
1:39It is the best. I know, we've seen the ADP of a lot of these guys shift quite a bit from when
1:46we started to where we're at now. So I want to dive into a couple of different positions of guys that have
1:52an interesting ADP as I would call it. And I want to start in Philadelphia with the quarterback that is Jalen Hurts.
1:58Because everyone kind of looks at Jalen Hurts, the number five quarterback.
2:02He's the, quote, end of that first tier because he's that running quarterback.
2:06We always talk about that being a cheat code in fantasy.
2:09The rushing upside, sure. Yep, the rushing upside. And now his ADP, 54.5.
2:13So you're getting him in the sixth round. How do you feel about Jalen Hurts in that ADP?
2:18Way too high. I mean, this is a player who has underperformed in consecutive seasons.
2:22Last year, he was the QB eight in fantasy points per game.
2:26His passing was down in that he recorded his lowest completion percentage under 65% since 2021.
2:31He also, in fact, let me ask you, how many games of 300 or more yards passing do you think he managed last season?
2:37Maybe one? Just one. Okay. One single game of 300 plus.
2:41But obviously, we do not love Jalen Hurts, as you mentioned earlier, for his passing volume.
2:45We like him for his legs. Exactly. And now it feels like we're in a spot, Liz, where even though I love
2:52Jalen Hurts and the legs, and that's why we're drafting him there, it kind of feels like the rushing has fallen off
2:58a little bit over the last couple years. Last year, he ran the ball 45 fewer times than the previous year.
3:04And he ended the year as the QB seven in rushing yards behind Drake May.
3:09Also, can we talk about the touchdown production? Because that dropped significantly.
3:12He recorded just eight rushing scores last season. That was his second lowest total since his rookie campaign.
3:17And I would attribute that dip to a less effective conversion on the tush push, which only converted at about 62% last year.
3:24And I have to give you props because you warned everyone heading into last year that without Jason Kelsey in that offensive
3:30line, the tush push was going to become less of a factor for Jalen Hurts.
3:35Especially when you have a running back the caliber of Saquon freaking Barkley right back there, right?
3:40Like why not give the ball to the running back you're paying tens of millions of dollars to so you can protect your quarterback.
3:47So it just feels like where we're at right now.
3:5054.5. I don't see it. I don't see it rebounding either because the old lines coach from last year and all the
3:56previous three years, Jeff Stoutland stepped down. And now there's a gentleman named Chris Cooper who's going to man that role.
4:02And most of the reports are saying that the tush push is going to be less of a centerpiece, maybe even completely
4:09phased out of the game plan here. What does Jalen Hurts fantasy impact look like if the tush push is in a
4:15part of what we're getting week in and week out?
4:18Because that's why we're drafting him at five. And the passing game is going to be less efficient again without AJ Brown there.
4:25So now we're looking at a completely depressed season and he was the QB Aiden fantasy points per game last year.
4:31Even though I have him in this tier where he's at the end of tier one because of the rushing ability, as
4:37you've mentioned, there's a reason for me to be nervous about it.
4:41I haven't drafted him at all this year. I haven't either because in the sixth round I would rather pivot to wide
4:47receiver and get myself either Jalen Waddle or Latimer Conkey.
4:50And then we can wait and we've talked about the late round quarterbacks that we both like.
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5:27have been an easy top three wide receiver. Except last year he was awful.
5:31Justin Jefferson was a top ten wide receiver for five straight seasons.
5:34And then last year he got J.J. McCarthy'd, finished as wide receiver 30.
5:38We all thought because Kevin O'Connell rescued Sam O'Donnell.
5:41Sam Darnold Sam Darnold Because of that it was like, all right, he can do this with J.J.
5:46McCarthy. And then it just, the value cratered. And because of that you're seeing this draft price be as low as it has ever been on Justin Jefferson.
5:54So are you in or are you out? On this current ADP I think you're getting an incredible steal.
6:00I mean, we know that Justin Jefferson has top five wide receiver potential.
6:04Why don't you list all the quarterbacks that Justin Jefferson has played with over the years prior to J.J.
6:09McCarthy? All right, the quarterbacks you're talking about. We got Kirk Cousins, Nick Mullins, Josh Dobbs, Jaron Hall, and Sam Darnold.
6:15Honestly, Kirk Cousins is the best one on that list.
6:18Highest floor for sure. Not even close. So Nick Mullins, Josh Dobbs, and Jaron Hall, and he was still a top ten wide receiver?
6:25Yes, in fact, over his career, six years in the league, Justin Jefferson has remained the wide receiver five in fantasy points
6:32per game just over his career behind Tyreek Hill and just ahead of Amon Ross St.
6:36Brown. Okay, which is very fair. And I think as you would usually say, we're trying not to chase touchdowns.
6:42We don't chase touchdowns. We chase volume, right? We chased volume.
6:45And Justin Jefferson over his career has also managed a target share of around 30% every single season.
6:50That is a monster size. We know that the touchdowns are going to rebound.
6:55We can be nervous about Kyler Murray. I am nervous about Kyler Murray.
6:58That's the point that makes me probably the most nervous.
7:01None of this has to do with Justin Jefferson.
7:04None of last year was on Justin Jefferson for me.
7:07It was the quarterback not being able to get him the ball.
7:10And even though we've seen Kyler have a top five season before, I think there is some concern that maybe he's just
7:17gonna suck at getting his guy the ball. Well, we have seen him force feed DeAndre Hopkins the ball when Nuke was
7:23in Arizona that first year they were together. So we've seen that work.
7:27I will agree that the marriage of skill sets is not ideal because Murray has struggled to push the ball downfield.
7:33And we know that that's a hallmark of Justin Jefferson's game.
7:36Still, he is also gonna score more than two touchdowns.
7:39So now you have a player with consistent wide receiver five upside going if you're playing in a 10 team league at the top of the second round.
7:47Yeah, I think you have an unbelievable value if you decide to draft Justin Jefferson here.
7:52End of the first beginning of the second. It feels like when we get to next year, we're gonna be looking back
7:58saying remember when we got such a huge discount on Justin Jefferson?
8:02I mean, I hope so because there is plenty that can go wrong between these two personalities if you want to listen to the narrative.
8:09So I do understand it. But also if we are looking at the facts and not just the feels, there's value here.
8:15Incredible value. The fact is Kyler Murray only has one piece of homework and that's just throw the ball to Justin Jefferson.
8:22One piece. Only one piece. I still think they should be Madden together.
8:26I think that might fix it. That might fix it.
8:29Just get in the playbook and do something. All right, let's talk about one more guy and we're gonna go to the tight end position.
8:36Liz, George Kittle has been unbelievable for basically a decade.
8:39That 49ers wide receiving core is in a tough spot right now.
8:42Juwan Janning is no longer there. Obviously, Ricky Pearsall on IR.
8:45They did bring in a very old Mike Evans.
8:48And so they don't have a lot of people.
8:51Who by the way is dealing with a quadriceps issue.
8:54How you feeling about George Kittle? Mind you, dealing with some of his own things.
8:58But right now his ADP is 95. That's the 10th round.
9:01So we know George Kittle is going to probably miss a little bit of time because his playing style, which is so
9:08intense, which is why he's such a fan favorite, often invites injury.
9:11In fact, George Kittle has missed at least one game due to injury in seven of his last nine seasons when he has been on the field.
9:19Though he has been money outside of his rookie effort.
9:22Kittle has never posted a season in which he's averaged fewer than 12.7 fantasy points per game.
9:27That's a good idea. And it gets better. Despite missing 14 regular season games, he also leads the position in touchdown grabs
9:33over the last five years with 38. So he leads the position in touchdowns even though he's missed all of that time.
9:40All that time. And I would think that with this offense, he's going to go back to being that role while he is on the field.
9:47The big concern right now for me, Liz, and you kind of alluded it to the beginning, he's dealing with that Achilles
9:54injury, which happened very late in the season. January.
9:56It was a January injury. So as a part of that, you might have to grab another tight end maybe for the first couple weeks.
10:03And that's really the big concern with George Kittle is you'll have to go with someone else maybe for a couple weeks in the unknown there.
10:11I think certainly for week one. Now, George Kittle has not suffered any setbacks in his recovery.
10:16He is expecting to be ready week one. I would say though, even if he's not because the Rams and the 49ers
10:22will travel to Australia to kick off the season.
10:25So maybe George Kittle doesn't make that trip for a myriad of reasons.
10:29I don't care. This position is so deep that you can take plenty of final round flyers to band-aid your roster while
10:35the people's tight end returns to form and then also just pushes you into some supernova gear down the stretch.
10:41I am all in on that. George Kittle's ADP is 95.
10:44Mike Evans' ADP is 90. Give me the tight end that has years of chemistry with this quarterback rather than the old
10:51guy that's coming over for the first season. Facts.
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12:24Who's in the box? What's in the box? Oh, what's in the box?
12:28What's in the f***ing box? All right, this is what it looks like when I'm out of the box, guys.
12:33I gotta be honest. Liz is a little bit nervous because I've never been in a box this big before.
12:39I have never kept you in a box, Daniel.
12:42I love you for you. All you do is keeping in boxes.
12:45That's not me, that's a producer's. Okay, well, for what it's worth, I am in a very large box right now and
12:52I am very excited because now that you've let me out, I want to be able to talk about some players that
12:58maybe I'm a little more outside the box on based on my rankings than some of our other- Than the consensus.
13:04Sure. Than our consensus, our colleagues. I'm going to start at the tight end spot and I need you to give me
13:11a little bit of grace here because I've been out on Travis Kelsey for a while.
13:15Since I've known you. Okay. That's four years. It's, and for two of those years, I was wrong.
13:21Well, you keep saying I'd rather be a year early on Travis Kelsey than a year late.
13:25I was four years early for what it's worth.
13:28Okay. And I was wrong. And you got to own your mistakes sometimes.
13:32But now. Eventually, baby. It's the time. Travis Kelsey, I think right now, he's coming off the board, it's about tight end 10.
13:39Sure. I've got him more as like tight end 12 and I'm nervous because I just feel like we've watched him fall
13:45year after year after year as he's just lost that pop in his step.
13:49Four years ago, 18.2 points per game. Three years ago, 14.7 points per game.
13:53So about three less. Two years ago, 11.2. So you're talking in three years, he lost seven points per game.
13:59That's a lot. Based on what we were expecting.
14:02And then last year, even less, 10.4. Now you're in a situation in which you're going the wrong way.
14:07You've got a superstar quarterback who's working back from injury.
14:10So even that's going to be something. They want Rasheed Rice to be involved like it's nobody's business.
14:15They want that kid to be able to work out.
14:18They drafted a first round wide receiver a couple of years ago that I don't think they want to give up on yet and Xavier Worthy.
14:26And I just feel like at that spot, Liz, this is where I'll end it.
14:30There are younger tight ends that I think just have more upside that I would rather take a shot on than Travis
14:37Kelsey because I think he might have a decent floor, a low end tight end one floor.
14:41That's what I have him ask. But I want that ceiling.
14:45If I'm going to wait that long, I can get that floor I feel like from almost anybody.
14:50Well, we do know, OK, over the last three years, Travis Kelsey has not hit a thousand receiving yards.
14:55He also hasn't managed double digit touchdowns for three years straight as well.
14:59So we certainly can admit there's been a decline.
15:02I do think the addition of Kenneth Gainwell III to the offense will open up the middle of the field for him.
15:08He's going to continue to be a safety valve, but he's getting nothing after the catch to your point.
15:14Yeah. So I do have him as my tight end 10 and I think he'll be a low end tight end one.
15:20But sure, finding the upside elsewhere at a cheaper price.
15:23No problems with it. I think that there's a part when I watch Travis Kelsey's game, it's like kind of stopped being
15:29fun because it used to be like he was this big behemoth that would kind of run over people a bit rumble.
15:36And now it's just like he catches the ball and falls down like Tyler Lockett used to do.
15:41So like that's the thing you catch the ball.
15:44You play Madden. You hit the A button. You don't want to get tackled.
15:48And I actually maybe don't want him to get tackled.
15:51I want him to be on the field. Yeah.
15:53So whatever he can do, I think he will still have those classic.
15:57There will be a few. There will be weeks.
16:00There will be weeks. There will be weeks. There will be some classic.
16:04The LB8s likes to say there will be weeks and there will be weeks.
16:08Do you want to talk about someone who used to be on the Chiefs but is now playing maybe for a team you have a particular interest in?
16:16You know Liz, part of the reason why we're best friends is because you know my heart so well.
16:21I do. You do. Isaiah Pacheco I think is just being criminally overlooked right now in drafts.
16:26Agreed. And I want to say this. First and foremost, I think it's as a handcuff.
16:31I do not believe that Isaiah Pacheco as it stands will have stand alone value the way that both Jameer Gibbs and
16:37David Montgomery could have stand alone value in the previous years of fantasy.
16:41Sure. This year, it's going to be different. It's the Jameer Gibbs show.
16:45But I do want to say when looking at what that Monty role did over the last couple years, it's pretty enticing Liz.
16:52Three years ago, 15 touchdowns for David Montgomery. That was with Jameer Gibbs being on the team.
16:57He was a rookie that year. Two years ago, 12 touchdowns.
17:00Last year, still dipped. But eight touchdowns, which is a very respectable number for a running back in today's NFL.
17:06I don't care about the yardage. I care about the touchdown equity in the number two offense in the NFL that scored 28 points per game last year.
17:14The Chiefs weren't even close to that. They were the 20th scoring offense in the NFL last year.
17:19So this team should be so much better for Isaiah Pacheco.
17:22And most importantly, the point is he's a handcuff.
17:25If anything happens to Jameer Gibbs, you have a guy that's going to fall right into an offense as the lead back.
17:31There's not another back guy in Detroit right now that you would think would take carries away from Isaiah Pacheco.
17:37And he would have top 20 running back value if he ever got the start if Jameer Gibbs were ever hurt.
17:43So I just think he shouldn't be overlooked as a handcuff.
17:46Over under seven and a half rushing scores for Pacheco.
17:49Oh, Liz, why you got to do this to me?
17:52On the spot. That's a good number. You should do this.
17:55Thank you. I, in fact, do. I'm going to go over.
17:59I'm going to say eight. I'm just like just barely over.
18:02So that is the number of rushing scores that David Montgomery recorded last season and was the RB 12 as a result in rushing scores.
18:09Moreover, last year, David Montgomery was the RB 27 overall with a reduced amount of volume and dealing with injury.
18:15Yep. So that means that Isaiah Pacheco has RB three slash flex appeal and is largely going undrafted, not even baking in his value as a handcuff.
18:23Isaiah Pacheco right now is ranked so low by our and if he's even ranked by a lot of our consensus colleagues.
18:29Liz, I'm all in on this guy. But again, I just want to say one more time, one more time.
18:35It is not standalone value. It is not like previous years with David Montgomery.
18:39This is just about grabbing him in case something happens to me or Gibbs.
18:43But we got to talk about Pacheco more as a guy that needs to be a rostered.
18:48I think we need to tweak our rankings. I think that's the lesson we just learned.
18:53All right. I got a wide receiver. I want to ask you about one more and I feel really bad because I love this kid.
19:00I am really nervous about Nico Collins as my wide receiver one in fantasy.
19:04Okay. Is it because of the lower body injuries or because you believe the passing offense to be kind of anemic?
19:10It is a little bit of both. How much do you know about Nico Collins lower body?
19:15Not enough. Not enough. You're going to tell me?
19:18Okay. So here's where we're at. Let me tell you about Nico Collins.
19:22And it's not just his lower body though. It is mostly his lower body.
19:26The problem is he has gotten hurt so much that a lot of this is on him.
19:31Some of it's on the offense, but a lot of this is on him.
19:35He's never played a full season. Ever. I do not know that actually.
19:38Never played a full season. Good point. Nico had multiple concussions in 2025.
19:42Last year. Missed multiple games because of that. He dealt with multiple hamstring issues in 2024, which included a stint on the IR.
19:49He had a calf strain in 2023 that caused him to miss time.
19:53He had a foot injury in 2022 that also landed him on the IR.
19:57He then had a shoulder injury in 2021 that also landed him on the IR.
20:01So three of his five seasons in the NFL, he has spent at least four games on injured reserve.
20:07So I'm planning on this guy probably getting banged up.
20:10We see these big, long, wide receivers with the hamstring issues.
20:13It happens a lot. The recidivism. We know that.
20:15So we're talking about now Nico Collins being a guy that I have to worry about from a health perspective.
20:21And I still haven't talked about the offense where I don't know if CJ Stroud is that good of a quarterback anymore.
20:28We anointed him coming right out of that first year.
20:30And it's been downhill ever since. And part of that is because of the offensive line issues.
20:35It's been really tough for him. They tried to retool the offensive line this year.
20:40But if I'm going to draft Nico Collins as my wide receiver one, I want him to be healthy.
20:45I don't want him to miss time. And that's a thing I'm worried about.
20:49I want him to be able to have time to get down the field and have his quarterback have a pocket so
20:56that there's the ability for him to be able to find Nico Collins.
21:00I'm worried about that in this Texans offense. So are you out on the player or are you out on the offense?
21:06Because Jaden Higgins, who's getting a ton of buzz in camp as the de facto number two and could, if we are
21:12anticipating that Collins misses time, step into a wide receiver one role.
21:16Yep. Largely undrafted, very late, ranked, I believe, outside of the top 50 players at the position.
21:21Yes, agreed. I think that is an awesome pick.
21:23And I, Nico Collins is a much better wide receiver than Jaden Higgins.
21:27But I'm more in on the idea of drafting Jaden Higgins because of the ADP rather than feeling like I have to
21:34spend that draft capital on a guy that I've watched get hurt more often than not.
21:38Also being on a team that if they just run the ball a ton with David Montgomery and play really solid defense.
21:45Which they can just salt the clock. They can just salt the clock out.
21:49And then, hey, guess what? I don't have to worry about that hamstring issue that Nico's dealing with.
21:54That being said, Jaden Higgins is in a spot where if Nico's going to be their deep guy, like Jaden Higgins could be that safety valve underneath.
22:02You know, he could help play that role. Him and Dalton Schultz could maybe be those guys where the ball comes out a little bit quicker.
22:09So I'm more in on Higgins and less out on Collins than I am on the whole offense, I guess.
22:15Okay, let's just really quickly to contextualize, George Pickens or Nico Collins?
22:19George Pickens. Chris Olave or Nico Collins? Chris Olave.
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23:39This is a safe place. It's a place where we can feel free sharing our feelings.
23:43Dopp, I hear that you have our voicemail submissions.
23:46I sure do, Liz Loza. The very first one, it's an interesting question.
23:50I think it's about the cocaine bear in Kentucky.
23:53Liz, Daniel, this is Luke from Louisville, Kentucky. Bear Down.
23:55Just want to say again, looking fantastic as a brunette.
23:58Never change it. And also, am I insane for thinking of having Cam Scadaboo be my RB1?
24:03I don't know. I keep getting him. I'm losing my mind thinking that I'm kind of falling in the shambles.
24:09Please let me know your thoughts. Matt Nagy scares me to the end of days.
24:13Thank you. I love Luke. I do too. For so many reasons.
24:17I do too. Also, Luke, I'm a little disappointed that you think I'm a brunette.
24:21It's red. It's cowgirl copper. But there's a lot going on in this voicemail.
24:25Also, Matt Nagy, scarred for life. Totally understand that.
24:28What I don't understand is if Cam Scadaboo is going off the board in the fifth round, what you doing for the
24:34first four rounds of your draft in making Cam Scadaboo your RB1?
24:38Like you should definitely have a running back in those first three to four rounds, no?
24:43Yes. I think the running back position dries up too quickly outside of that top area.
24:47You have to have like one of those top guys.
24:50Right. And I don't think that Cam Scadaboo counts to me as one of those top guys.
24:55He's an RB2 contender. I like him as an RB2.
24:58I think you and I might differ a little bit.
25:01I'm nervous about. I, you know what? But he, but if he's your RB2, you don't have to be nervous.
25:07If he's your RB1, yeah. Then I am nervous.
25:09I am nervous. But he was the RB4 in rushing attempts last season.
25:13The RB4 in receptions, which you don't automatically think about.
25:16That's true. Now, he's not going to see that kind of volume, assuming Malik Nabors is in fact healthy, right?
25:22But we still know that he was the RB8 in fantasy points per game, averaging 19.1 before he got hurt last season.
25:28How about if Malik Nabors is healthy? This offense is moving up and down the field with more efficiency than we saw last year.
25:35Because we didn't see Cam Scadaboo hardly play with Malik Nabors.
25:38And that could also increase the touchdown equity that Cam Nabors, or that Cam Scadaboo could see.
25:43So I'm nervous because of the health part of it.
25:46It seems like every once in a while Cam Scadaboo just does some silly health things.
25:51I mean, he is like the living, breathing Kool-Aid man.
25:54Yes. Yes. When he just bursts. I'm waiting for him to burst through this door while we do it.
25:59That would be so cool. How incredible would that be?
26:02But yes. As an RB1, I'm nervous. As an RB2, okay.
26:06I can swallow that. But look, please draft a running back before the fifth round.
26:10Please have at least one drafted before you get to Cam Scadaboo.
26:13Go ahead and take Scadaboo. Totally fine. Just as well as someone else in front of him.
26:18And check your color saturation settings just to make sure that it is red.
26:22Daniel used to be a producer. That's it. Next one.
26:25Alright, next question here. This next one we have is gonna come from my buddy Mark, who I actually don't know, but
26:32I think him and I will be friends. Okay.
26:34Mark is our just a quick fantasy football 10 PMP for our question.
26:38Who do you have higher in ADP? Amari and Hampton or Saquon Barkley?
26:42Thank you very much. Look at that pro. Look at that pro.
26:45Ask the question. Gets out. This kid is dope.
26:48He is my favorite. Mark. Yeah. I love this.
26:51And it's a very good question, Mark. This might be one of the best ones because I have those two players back to back in my rankings.
26:59I have Omarion Hampton as my RB8 and Saquon Barkley as my RB9.
27:02So very good question. To me, this is a question of floor versus ceiling.
27:06Yep. I think that Hampton has a higher ceiling.
27:09Barkley offers you a safer floor. The offensive line in Philadelphia, certainly more proven than the one in Los Angeles.
27:15We're gonna hope that it's healthy and that will add to Hampton's appeal.
27:19But I think that I like them both and it depends on what you want to do with your team.
27:24I, yeah, if you have a direction that you want to go because you like one of the players more, I don't
27:31think you're gonna go wrong with either one of these guys.
27:34I would go with Omarion Hampton. You said this and made me think about it.
27:38I think that Saquon might have a safer floor, but I still think Omarion Hampton may have a higher floor with the
27:45offense that could be the Chargers and Mike McDaniel.
27:47If things go the way that they did last year when Omarion Hampton was healthy, he looked unbelievable.
27:53Not only as a running back finding his way in the end zone, but as a pass catcher, he was very involved.
27:59We know that McDaniel knows how to get the football to his running backs with the way that he did with Devon H.
28:06So for me, I would go with Omarion Hampton here.
28:09Mark, just your buddy Daniel, just me and you for a second, I would go with Omarion Hampton.
28:14But you're not gonna go wrong with either one of these running backs.
28:18Well, you know, the Eagles also have a new offensive coordinator this season in Sean Mannion.
28:22And in a passing game transition season, the team is also more likely to lean on the proven ground game.
28:28Barkley has 250 carries projected for himself. Yeah. So Mark, I think you just got to go with your gut, baby.
28:34I like it. All right. We got one last question.
28:37This one is about some old dudes and fantasy.
28:40Good afternoon, Liz. This is Michael from New York.
28:42I was wondering, is the 49ers gonna use Mike Evans like the Rams use Devontae?
28:47And if so, is he worth a late third round pick?
28:50Thanks. Love the show. Have a great year. See ya.
28:53Wow. He really... Michael milked to the end of that voicemail.
28:56I like it. I just gotta say. I like it.
28:59So I think my question back to Michael, which obviously I won't be able to know the answer to...
29:05Can you spread it out the way that he did?
29:07Well, I'll try. Mike Evans, a third round pick.
29:10Too high. Like, you don't need to do that in the third round.
29:14No. His ADP is 90.0 overall. That means you're getting in between the ninth and the tenth round, depending on how many people are in your league.
29:22I do like Evans' value. Now, we did say earlier in the show, obviously, that he's dealing with a quadriceps issue.
29:28Yep. And we did see him get injured last season.
29:31So there... That could be signs of decline. I think that the 49ers would like to use Mike Evans.
29:36That's the goal. Like Sean McVay used Devontae Adams.
29:39Yeah. I don't know if that's going to be possible.
29:42Right now, Mike Evans is projected to score eight touchdowns.
29:45Adams recorded 14 in 2025. And also, for what it's worth, Michael, you can get Devontae Adams himself in the fifth round,
29:51which is two rounds after the third. Yeah. So...
29:54I kind of feel when you say this, Devontae Adams last year, just thinking about the question itself, Devontae Adams last year basically turned into Jamie Graham.
30:02Like, he lived between the 20s. That's interesting. He was just a touchdown guy, didn't really live in the middle of the field.
30:08I'm not saying that that's going to be Mike Evans, because Mike is a field stretcher when he's healthy, though he is
30:15turning 33 this year, has been dealing with injuries, like you said.
30:18Where Mike Evans makes his money is by finding the end zone.
30:22Not a ton of volume, but a ton of high-value volume.
30:25So I wonder if the comp to Devontae Adams isn't bad, but I'm not sure it's going to be enough for me to want to invest.
30:32Definitely not a third round pick. Well, to me the best thing about Mike Evans is the value he's presented.
30:38Because it's a tenth round pick rather than... So that's fair.
30:42Alright, after walking through it, I think you helped me with that one.
30:45I can be a little bit more in on Mike Evans.
30:49Draft him, but not in the third round. But not in the third round.
30:53Yes. Agreed. That's going to do it for the voicemails this week.
30:56Make sure you continue to send in all of the voicemails that you have.
31:00Liz and I love being able to listen to them.
31:03Sometimes we just go in and listen to them ourselves, and we just talk about how we can't wait to be able
31:09to get to them later on this season, because we got a bunch of really good off-season questions.
31:15So please check back. If you do not hear voicemails today, we're either going to do some social videos or hopefully have them in later on episodes.
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